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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Apparently Nobody Gets the Benefit of the Doubt? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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what is going on everybody
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welcome to lunch time it is
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lunch with the clydesdale
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it is friday we're heading
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into the weekend not only
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is a weekend it's a
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memorial day weekend we get
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an extra day off here in
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the states so a little
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secret I took today off so
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I actually have a four-day
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weekend starting today
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however however I was up
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early this morning
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um my wife had to go in and
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have the staples removed
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from her total knee
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replacement surgery um so
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we went in had that done
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first thing this morning
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and that's a total game
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changer for her because um
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you know really everything
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about the rehab is getting
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the mobility in the knee back
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to get the bend and the
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total flex from zero degrees.
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And they won her at one
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hundred and twenty degrees.
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We had her up to one hundred
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and eleven degrees with the staples in.
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But at that point,
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the staples start to pool.
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So having those ripped out or ripped out,
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hopefully not ripped out, taken out today,
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it will give her the
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freedom to get that knee
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bend back to one hundred
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and twenty degrees where they want her.
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But the doctor is super
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pumped because she's
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already at one hundred and
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eleven just gosh what two
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and a half weeks after surgery.
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She's barely using the walker.
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I think she'll probably be
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down to just the cane
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sometime within the next week.
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she's just killing it.
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And he's so pumped because
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he said so many people have
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the surgery done,
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then don't do the work after.
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And then the surgery doesn't
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take like it should.
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And so they really struggle
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on the new knees.
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And,
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and so she's going to have two brand
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new knees, totally rehabbing up.
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And hopefully like it's a
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complete game changer for us in life.
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Because really the last few
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years we have not been able
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to do much as a family
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because she's been really
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trapped to areas where
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there's not a lot of walking,
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things of that nature.
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So super excited for her to
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get back to being mobile again.
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But yeah, big step this morning,
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getting those staples removed.
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So we were at the hospital
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first thing this morning, had that done.
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And then I decided if I'm
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taking part of the day off
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right before a three-day weekend,
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I might as well take the whole day,
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make it a four-day weekend,
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and really just kind of
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Relax a little bit this weekend.
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It has been a rat race for
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us with these surgeries,
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moving my daughter to Montana,
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plus doing all this side
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podcasting stuff.
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So I'm really pumped to just
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kind of chill out a little
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bit this weekend.
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But yeah, so there's that.
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So that's going on.
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Also, tomorrow is my wedding anniversary.
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I will have been with my
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wife tomorrow for twenty eight years,
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twenty eight years married tomorrow.
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We dated for about four
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years before the wedding.
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So it'll be thirty two years
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ish that we have been together since.
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And so, yeah, super excited about that.
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But with everything going on,
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we really have made no
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plans for the anniversary this year.
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I think we're just going to
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go do some lunch somewhere
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tomorrow and really nice
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lunch just the two of us.
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And then our goal this
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weekend is to get her
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outside a little bit more
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because she... Now that the
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scar is healed up and the staples are out,
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we're going to try to get her outside,
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moving outside a little bit
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more and maybe go...
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go to a park or something
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this weekend and just hang
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out outside a little bit,
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get some fresh air.
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But that seems to be the
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plan in place for that.
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Plus it's Memorial Day.
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Maybe we'll get a picnic together,
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do a picnic either Sunday or Monday,
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do something like that.
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You guys have any Memorial
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Day plans or festivities
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that you do every year?
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I know Murph is a big one in
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the CrossFit space.
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Murph happens on Memorial
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Day generally every year.
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I wonder how many people are
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doing that this weekend or Monday,
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and how much preparation
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have you done for that,
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and are you ready to take
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it on this year?
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So, train to live, Murph, and work.
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Well, sad part about the work.
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Sorry about the work.
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But Murph,
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I hope you have any goals this
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year for Murph,
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any different partitioning plans,
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any PRs you're heading for,
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anything like that trying to live?
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What's going on, Andrew?
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Yeah,
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I don't think I've ever done it any
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way other than the five, ten,
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fifteen every year.
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One year I tried it different.
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I take that back.
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One year I did try it different,
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and it did not go well.
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I... I tried to...
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were in a really small gym
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at the time and um and I
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had to share a pull-up bar
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with somebody so because of
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that I would I would just
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skip the pull-ups if the
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person was on the pull-up
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bar and then try to come
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back and make up for that
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And man,
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a lot of times what happened is my
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push-ups got to be well over ten.
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And I'm really good at push-ups,
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but I'm a bigger guy.
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So I reach fatigue really fast.
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And...
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And that's what happened
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when we shared the pull-up bars.
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I would get trapped in the
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push-up hell and then
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really struggle where I was
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doing the push-up flop kind of push-up.
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But yeah.
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That gets tough.
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It's already hot in Florida.
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I'll tell you what, man.
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The last couple of days,
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we were at eighty here in Ohio.
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And then someone pulled the
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rug out from under us today
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at the hospital this morning.
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It was so cold and windy,
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like whipping winds.
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Just so cold.
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But yeah.
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so that's uh that's kind of
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what my day and um my
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weekend look like right now
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the one thing I I really
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wanted to kind of dive into
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a little bit today is and
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it's it's prompted by the
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alex kazan stuff and
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And I want to start it
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because really what my thing is,
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is like we give nobody the
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benefit of the doubt anymore.
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Like the immediate first
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response is the worst thing it could be.
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And then that's the
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narrative we go forward with.
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And maybe in some instances,
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that's the correct way to do it.
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I don't know.
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I'm not here to put blame on
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anybody for doing what they did.
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I get it.
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There are news sources that
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are trying to break news.
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They're trying to do it fast.
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Their reputation is to be
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first and to be fast.
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And if they see something and they do that,
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I get it.
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I see their side of this story.
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I do.
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But in the last couple weeks, man,
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I've really been in this
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place where nobody gets the
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benefit of the doubt.
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And it started a couple weeks ago when
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I'm going to lay this out.
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I have been in this space
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for well over five years.
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I have done hundreds and
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hundreds and hundreds of interviews.
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I have done hundreds and
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hundreds of in-person
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interviews at events.
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I have established
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relationships with athletes, with coaches,
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with agents.
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And never once has anybody
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complained about
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how they were handled or
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what was done with them or
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how I treated them or the
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light I put them in.
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Never once in all of those
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five and a half years.
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Two weeks ago,
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I post a meme about a
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pyramid doing a GHD sit-up and I get a
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a DM back saying that I need to stop that,
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pull that,
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and not become part of groupthink.
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And when I eventually got to
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talk to someone involved in
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that situation,
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not the person that DMed me,
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but someone involved in that,
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my response to them was,
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how come I didn't get the
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benefit of the doubt?
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Have I not earned...
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the benefit of the doubt
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because of my reputation
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for five and a half years.
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With you, with your clients, with coaches,
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haven't I earned enough of
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that through time to be
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given the benefit of the
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doubt in that situation?
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And I think that's where...
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Things like what happened
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with Alex this week and the
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World Fitness Project is
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that nobody is being given
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the benefit of the doubt.
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Now,
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in what I do in my relationship that I
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built with Alex and her
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husband and Justin Cutler,
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my first reaction is to
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give her the benefit of the doubt.
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And not to assume the worst.
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Because over the past three years,
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they have been nothing but kind to me.
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They have been completely honest with me.
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They have never led me down
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the wrong path.
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They have never led me astray on anything.
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And they've never tried to
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manipulate me or lie to me.
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so that is my um that that's
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kind of my first blush look
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at this is they get my
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benefit of the doubt so now
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we look at the wfp my
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relationship with will
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before the wfp has was
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nothing but professional
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truthful transparent honest
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My relationship with Saxon
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before the WFP was nothing but truthful,
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honest, transparent,
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and never manipulated, never led astray,
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always truthful with me.
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All of a sudden,
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they become involved with the WFP,
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and we have to question
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everything they say.
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Well, I can't.
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I can't take away the
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relationship I've built
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with these two people over years of time.
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And I knew Saxon before I
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started podcasting.
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So that relationship even
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goes back further than five years.
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So how can you take... I
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cannot take away...
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the credibility and the
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relationship built for five
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to seven years and throw it
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away because of something
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that came out with this
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whole drug situation.
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And to me,
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both Will and Saxon have earned
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with me the benefit of the doubt.
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for me to say, okay,
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I see what's here on the surface.
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You've earned the benefit of the doubt.
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Now you can lose that over
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time by not being honest,
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by not being upfront, by not doing things,
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um, that you say you're going to do.
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So I know that everybody is
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looking into this.
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Everybody's looking at the documents,
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seeing when they've been edited,
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seeing when they've been updated.
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Um,
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seeing when relationships
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started all of this stuff
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and and again they can all
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do that because this is a
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free market with free
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speech and everybody's
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entitled to do things the
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way they want to do and I'm
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not digging on them at all
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they have the right to do
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any of that stuff but for
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me they have my benefit of the doubt now
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Is it plausible that a
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person changed their policy
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and didn't update the paperwork?
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In my head,
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that is very plausible because
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where I work, it happens all the time.
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I work for state government,
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we change laws, we change rules,
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we change procedures,
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and the documents behind it
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don't always get updated as
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fast as the policy, the rule,
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or the law gets updated.
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That reside on the internet.
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or that are our front facing
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FAQs or different things like that.
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What will happen is at some point in time,
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a constituent will then call in and say,
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hey, I thought the law was this,
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your document says that,
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and then there's a scramble
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mode where everybody's
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released to go get that document,
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get it updated whenever
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that they're made aware of it.
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That's the life I lead every single day.
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So in this instance,
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when the WFP had a document
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out there that did not say
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what was said to Alex at the event,
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it was plausible to me that
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they just didn't get around
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to updating that
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forward-facing document for
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what people can see.
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Is it ideal?
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No.
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Does it happen all the time?
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All the time.
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It's honestly, I swear to God,
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I'd live this life.
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And at least once a month,
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we're updating a document
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that got forgotten.
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And we're talking about state laws,
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state rules, state requirements.
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Andrew Stan, in the corporate world,
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updating documents always
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takes a while because the
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language has to be screened
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by legal people, which takes time.
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There's all that as well.
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In state government,
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we have the Office of
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Communications who has to see it,
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legal who has to see it,
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and then every big
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politician involved in it
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wants to see it before it
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goes out to the public.
16:30
All that stuff.
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So all of this is plausible, right?
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So in my mind,
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they all get the benefit of
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the doubt at this point in
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time until they prove me wrong.
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And I will admit I am a hopeless romantic.
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I want to believe in people
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from the first minute I meet them.
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And then you have to prove
16:56
to me that you are not
16:57
trustworthy or not someone
17:00
not to believe in.
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That has to be proven to me over time.
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And listen,
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my heart gets broken a lot
17:08
living life that way.
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And I know there are other
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people in this world that
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go into every relationship saying,
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this person's going to burn me.
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I'm just waiting for the time.
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Or they have to prove to me
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that they're trustworthy
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instead of the other way around.
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So I am a person who really
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comes into life and I've
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been burned a ton and I've
17:36
never learned my lesson.
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I always come in open-minded.
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I want to believe in you
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until you prove to me that
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I can't believe in you anymore.
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Um, Andrew says,
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I think the issue is people
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have been burned by giving
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the benefit of the doubt in the past.
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So people just jumped to not doing it now.
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I think there are people like that.
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And I think there are people
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just wired differently than me.
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Right.
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I'm not saying what the way
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I live life is the perfect way.
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Cause I get,
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there are a lot of
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disappointments when you live that,
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that way.
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you get disappointed a lot
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and you have to be able to
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live with that.
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And every time I get burned, I'm like,
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I'm going to stop trusting people.
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I'm going to stop believing in people,
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but I'm just not wired that way.
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When I meet you at an event,
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my first thought is, Hey,
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this is a really cool person.
18:26
This is a cool relationship.
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Let's see where this goes.
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I never look at it as, Hey,
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they're gonna have to,
18:33
before I talk to them about
18:34
anything and you'll,
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if you find me at a competition,
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I am such an open book.
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I talk about everything.
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Right after we meet, I'm just that way.
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But not everybody is that way,
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and I get it.
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It's okay.
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It's what makes the world great.
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It's what makes everything
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we do awesome because
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everybody does come in with
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a different perspective and
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a different way of doing things,
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and all of those are okay.
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All of those are okay.
19:05
It makes for interesting conversations.
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I could never do what the spin does.
19:16
I just couldn't.
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I'm just not wired that way.
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But thank God he does it
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because he's the one place
19:22
I can go to catch up with
19:24
everything that's going on in the space.
19:28
Is everything that he does
19:33
something that I agree with?
19:35
Probably not.
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But there's no better
19:38
resource in the space than
19:40
him for the most current news.
19:43
And so if this is the way
19:45
his brain works and the way he works,
19:48
then I'm cool with all of that.
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That's just the way it is.
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And it's cool that he does that.
20:00
We both can exist in the
20:01
same atmosphere and both do
20:04
our own thing in our own
20:05
way and both live our lives
20:11
in a cool way.
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That's
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so I'm going to give the wfp
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the benefit of the doubt so
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many major sports leagues
20:23
have removed cannabis and
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cannabinoids as a banned substance
20:30
that it makes logical sense
20:33
if they are working with
20:34
wada or drug free sport
20:36
that they would say hey all
20:37
these other places are
20:38
getting rid of it maybe
20:40
it's something you should
20:41
consider too do you want to
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keep it in or keep it out
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and then they they just
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forgot to update their
20:47
forward-facing document
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halpin says there's also a
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jump to post first ask question second
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And that he is not saved from that.
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I think we all make mistakes like that,
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where you think you have
21:04
like this breaking news or
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I've posted stuff super
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fast and then been like, ah, damn,
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I shouldn't have.
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Or.
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And it takes me back to Herman Edwards,
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who was a coach for the
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Jets and the Chiefs and Arizona State.
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And he always says,
21:25
take a breath and think
21:26
before you hit send.
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And I think we all could
21:30
benefit from that.
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I think we've all made those mistakes.
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But yeah, it's...
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But I think whatever reputation you build,
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whatever your consistent piece is,
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that's going to be what
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we're going to look to,
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and that's what we're going to expect.
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Andrew Sten,
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that's the nature of news these days,
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the rush to get a story out
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so you can get the clicks
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views first rather than
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verifying much of anything.
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I agree.
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Me personally, there was a year ago,
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maybe two years ago,
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I was trying to get stuff out quick.
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But I learned that I'm just
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not that guy anymore.
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What I am in this space is a guy that...
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I build relationships with
22:28
athletes and coaches.
22:29
I talk to them off the record.
22:31
I know things and that's fine.
22:34
I'm not going to say them
22:35
because that's just not my
22:38
position or place anymore.
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But the fact that they can
22:42
trust me gives them the
22:46
ability to know they can
22:47
come to me and they can do
22:48
a show with me and I'll
22:50
respect whatever their wishes are.
22:53
It doesn't mean that I won't
22:54
be critical of them at
22:55
times or that I won't ask
22:59
them hard questions,
23:01
but they know they'll get a
23:02
fair shake when they come on this show.
23:10
But.
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and I'm not saying this to
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brag like people tell me
23:15
things in this space
23:17
because I'm not going to
23:18
say them anymore I I'm not
23:20
trying to be the first out
23:21
of the gate with anything anymore
23:24
but I use it as context in
23:26
my thoughts and opinions on
23:27
the Sunday night show.
23:29
I may use them in my
23:30
thoughts and opinions on this show,
23:32
but I'm not going to
23:35
divulge what was said to me
23:37
or things of that nature.
23:39
And then the athletes and
23:41
the coaches know that to be true.
23:44
And what's interesting is
23:45
going back to the
23:46
conversation I had with the
23:48
person that accused me of
23:50
group think was that after I asked,
23:54
why didn't I get the
23:55
benefit of the doubt?
23:56
They admitted that they
23:57
should have given me the
23:58
benefit of the doubt that
24:00
my reputation should have
24:02
led them to believe that I
24:04
deserve the benefit of the
24:05
doubt before jumping on me
24:07
for thinking that I'm
24:08
jumping into group think.
24:15
So that's my monologue on
24:18
benefit of the doubt.
24:20
That's where I am with this story.
24:24
Alex, Justin, Will, and Saxon,
24:27
I have long-term relationships with,
24:30
and they have done nothing
24:32
to sway me away from their
24:34
trust and their belief at this point.
24:38
And so at that point,
24:39
they deserve my benefit of the doubt.
24:41
And that's where I stand on the story.
24:44
Plus,
24:44
I have lived a life where I've seen
24:47
things done where rules and
24:49
policies have been changed
24:50
and the document doesn't
24:51
get done as quickly as the thought.
24:56
If you have followed government,
24:58
I'm sure you can believe
25:00
that policies and rules are changed,
25:02
laws are changed,
25:03
and all of the front-facing
25:05
documents about those laws, rules,
25:07
and policies are not updated immediately.
25:12
It happens every month where
25:14
we are sent on a scavenger
25:15
hunt because a constituent
25:18
calls in and says,
25:19
I found this and it's wrong.
25:22
And then we are digging for
25:23
every place where we forgot
25:25
to make that change happens
25:28
every month where I work.
25:34
So.
25:36
got a couple minutes left
25:37
today um what I want to do
25:39
is open it up to you guys
25:41
if you have any questions
25:42
for me I'll answer
25:43
questions today but other
25:46
than that um alpin says I
25:54
don't think anyone in the
25:55
space wants to go down the
25:56
road on a conversation when
25:58
the gold standard seemingly
26:00
is crossfit llc well that's
26:03
my other thing like
26:06
Every time that WFP makes a mistake,
26:09
we are, we, I shouldn't say we,
26:13
there is a sense that they
26:15
are being bashed for whatever they do.
26:19
We have spent twenty years
26:22
complaining that CrossFit
26:23
can't put together a season
26:25
that makes any sense.
26:27
We have given them chance
26:30
after chance after chance after chance,
26:33
and it never gets to a
26:34
place where it makes sense.
26:39
We ask for transparency.
26:42
Never do we get transparency
26:43
from CrossFit LLC.
26:46
The one thing I will tell
26:47
you that the WFP does ten
26:49
times better than CrossFit
26:50
has ever done is they issue
26:53
press releases.
26:55
I am a member of the media.
26:56
I applied for media credentials at the WFP,
26:59
and I get an email every
27:00
time a press release comes
27:02
out to notify me that this
27:04
has happened with the press
27:06
release as an attachment.
27:08
I don't have to go to
27:09
somebody's instagram page
27:11
and hope it's there whoa
27:12
it's not there now I got to
27:13
go to the crossfit games
27:14
instagram page maybe it's
27:16
there nope nope not there
27:17
oh it's on the media page
27:19
in the website that nobody
27:21
can really find from the
27:22
menu online you've got to
27:24
have like the direct link
27:27
and then it might be there um
27:33
Yesterday when this all went down,
27:35
WFP came out with a press
27:37
release early afternoon.
27:39
They had dealt with it head on.
27:41
They said where their stance was,
27:43
and that was the end of the story,
27:45
in my opinion.
27:49
Other people didn't take that,
27:50
but you would never get a
27:52
press release from CrossFit
27:53
if this happened to an
27:55
athlete at one of their
27:56
events and the same questions coming up.
28:04
because they've lost my
28:05
benefit of the doubt.
28:06
CrossFit LLC has lost my
28:08
benefit of the doubt when
28:11
it comes to communicating
28:12
what's going on and putting
28:15
together a season that makes sense.
28:21
Barbell spin, what did I miss?
28:22
You missed just a fifteen
28:25
minute monologue about
28:27
benefit of the doubt and
28:29
where my thoughts lie.
28:37
But I also said that you
28:38
have the right to do what you did.
28:41
And if you wanted to post that story,
28:43
that's what you are good at.
28:44
That's what you're known for.
28:46
You're trying to be the
28:47
fastest and the most
28:49
accurate person in the space.
28:51
That's not what I do.
28:52
So I have the opportunity to
28:54
give the benefit of the doubt.
29:20
Trained to live.
29:22
CrossFit gave athletes
29:23
judged by the AFJ the
29:24
benefit of the doubt, but not others.
29:26
So there's that.
29:45
Sorry about that.
29:48
It is cottonwood season in Ohio.
29:50
If anybody knows what that is,
29:52
it is ripping me up.
30:02
I will ask you this spin.
30:06
How many rules has CrossFit
30:07
changed and not told anybody?
30:15
I will say there have been
30:15
changes to the drug policy
30:18
over time that there's
30:20
never been a release from
30:21
CrossFit in any changes
30:22
they've made in the last twenty years.
30:55
I am sorry guys.
31:00
So he says,
31:00
so the other women followed
31:02
what was published.
31:04
We don't know.
31:10
Um,
31:12
did they follow it or did they just not
31:13
admit to taking something
31:14
on a live podcast?
31:25
I don't know in my five and
31:29
a half years of doing media,
31:32
I've never been given a
31:33
release about a change in
31:34
the drug policy from CrossFit.
31:39
I don't, so I don't know.
31:42
I don't,
31:42
it's not something I look at continually.
31:45
Um,
31:47
but I know I've heard from athletes
31:49
that it's their
31:49
responsibility to keep up
31:51
with this stuff as much as they can.
31:53
Um,
31:55
and if they miss something
31:58
it's their responsibility
32:00
um in my opinion from
32:05
hearing what alex said
32:06
today she realized what she
32:10
had done after the fact
32:12
after the wp was done and
32:15
went to will and asked him
32:17
and that's when he told her
32:19
uh that it was changed and
32:20
she was willing to accept
32:21
the punishment if it wasn't
32:33
If the same thing happened
32:34
with CrossFit and Castro,
32:35
the community would be outraged.
32:36
Why not the same for WFP?
32:42
Again, I come from a place,
32:45
and you missed my monologue.
32:50
I come from a place where every day I...
32:55
I work for state government.
32:57
We change rules, laws,
32:59
policies all the time.
33:00
And the front-facing
33:01
document does not
33:03
necessarily get updated in
33:05
every place that it needs to be.
33:08
Then a constituent calls in,
33:10
tells us we're wrong,
33:11
and we go make that change
33:13
as quickly as possible now
33:14
that we are aware of it.
33:17
That's what I live every single day.
33:20
So for me and my experience,
33:22
this is something that
33:24
would not surprise me that
33:28
you change a policy or a
33:30
procedure and you didn't
33:32
get the document updated in time.
33:39
Um, and I,
33:47
To give the hypothetical
33:49
about Castro and the games, to me,
33:51
they don't have the benefit
33:52
of the doubt that the WFP does.
33:54
I have had a long-term
33:55
relationship with Will and Saxon,
33:57
so they have earned some
33:59
benefit of the doubt from
34:01
me because they have never
34:03
not been transparent and open to me.
34:10
I don't have that same
34:11
relationship with CrossFit, LLC, Castro,
34:14
or any of that.
34:25
And I did say that I did not
34:27
blame you for posting the story.
34:28
I did not.
34:30
You have every right to do so.
34:32
I was just giving my
34:33
perspective and my life
34:35
experience as to why I
34:36
would give the benefit of the doubt.
34:41
And I use the example of
34:44
people coming at me saying
34:45
I jump into group think and
34:47
nobody gave me the benefit
34:48
of the doubt after five and
34:49
a half years of
34:50
establishing a relationship
34:52
with all these people where
34:53
I do not call athletes out,
34:57
where I do not treat them
35:00
disrespectfully in any way.
35:08
So.
35:15
That's why I said what I said.
35:18
Will and Saxon,
35:19
I've known for a very long time,
35:20
and they've never done
35:22
anything to lose my trust.
35:25
CrossFit has had twenty
35:26
years of doing things that
35:29
have lost my trust.
35:33
On the sports side,
35:34
I still love the methodology.
35:36
I still love my gym.
35:37
I still love going to the
35:39
gym in my community.
35:40
All of that.
35:46
rambler I'm not biased I'm
35:48
telling you flat out why I
35:50
believe the way I believe
35:52
and I said that other
35:53
people are entitled to
35:54
their opinion there are
35:55
different people in this
35:56
world some people come into
35:57
relationships open and and
36:02
are open until they're
36:03
proven to be untrustworthy
36:05
other people come into a
36:06
relationship and say I'm
36:07
not going to trust you
36:08
until you earn it they're
36:10
just different people and
36:11
it's okay it's okay for all
36:13
of us to have this conversation
36:18
I don't mind it.
36:20
And yeah, does that come with some biases?
36:22
Sure.
36:23
It also comes with experience.
36:27
I've known Saxon since twenty sixteen.
36:32
He has come to my gym.
36:33
He has worked out with us.
36:35
I've known him for a very
36:36
long time and he has never lied to me.
36:39
He's always been transparent with me.
36:41
So he gets my benefit of the doubt.
36:42
He's earned that.
36:45
Will Morad I've known for a
36:46
very long time.
36:48
He's never lied to me.
36:49
He's never been anything but
36:51
transparent with me.
36:52
He gets my benefit of the doubt.
36:59
I'm not up in arms.
37:00
You're jumping into a
37:01
conversation at the end and
37:02
didn't listen to anything
37:04
that I said earlier in the show.
37:06
I said Spin was completely
37:08
entitled to print what he did,
37:10
and he is fine to do so,
37:15
and it's okay to have that
37:16
in the conversation.
37:20
Don't jump in after I've
37:21
already said what I said
37:24
and then tell me what I meant.
37:25
You weren't even here for
37:26
the main conversation.
37:35
I said I'm a hopeless
37:36
romantic and I believe in
37:38
people when I first meet them.
37:40
And then they do something
37:41
and they burn me and then
37:43
they lose my trust.
37:45
I have long-term
37:46
relationships with people in this space.
37:48
Two of them happen to be
37:49
Will Morad and Saxon Pancheck.
37:51
So I'm going to believe in
37:52
them and I'm going to trust
37:54
them until they burn me and then I can't.
37:57
So I give them the benefit
37:58
of the doubt until they prove me wrong.
38:01
That's it.
38:05
This was not an indictment
38:06
on what spin did.
38:07
I said it was fine for him to do that.
38:10
Um,
38:14
And I said, he's the best at what he does.
38:16
And if it wasn't for him,
38:17
I wouldn't have a place to
38:18
go to get the news.
38:22
But from my perspective and what I do,
38:26
they get my benefit of the
38:27
doubt until they lose it.
38:39
Kenneth says,
38:41
I think Rambler is thinking
38:42
out loud to himself or about himself.
38:45
Okay.
38:49
Barry McOchner says dense
38:51
reported about the document change dates.
38:53
We talked about that as well.
38:56
I work in state government.
38:58
Documents don't get changed timely.
39:01
It's what I live.
39:03
At least once a month,
39:04
I'm looking for a document
39:05
that didn't get changed
39:06
because we changed a policy, a procedure,
39:09
or a law.
39:10
And some document online did
39:12
not get updated.
39:13
And somebody calls in and says,
39:15
this is wrong.
39:17
And then we're sent on a
39:18
hunt to find every document
39:19
where that might land and
39:21
go change them after the fact.
39:24
It happens all the time where I work.
39:26
I was just explaining that for me,
39:29
that's a very plausible
39:30
thing that could happen
39:31
because I live that every day.
39:40
That's all.
39:44
None of what I said today
39:45
was an indictment on spin
39:47
or his actions or anything he did.
39:50
I still use him as a new
39:51
source all the time to find my stuff.
39:59
I always said was I had
40:00
long-term relationships with Alex, Justin,
40:04
Will, and Saxon,
40:05
and they have earned my
40:06
benefit of the doubt.
40:07
That's it.
40:12
And I think in overall in life,
40:14
people have stopped giving
40:17
the benefit of the doubt.
40:18
And they just, if there's one fact,
40:19
they jump to conclusions.
40:23
And there are some people
40:24
just wired that way and it's okay.
40:31
But with that,
40:33
it is about the end of my lunch hour.
40:36
Tomorrow is my twenty eighth
40:37
wedding anniversary,
40:38
so I'm going to go hang out with my wife,
40:41
who has just had the
40:42
staples removed from her knee,
40:44
and now she is on the road to recovery.
40:47
And with that,
40:47
I hope you all have a great
40:49
Memorial Day weekend.
40:51
We will be back on Sunday
40:53
night for Sunday Night CrossFit talk,
40:55
even during the holiday weekend.
40:57
And then I'll be back on Monday.
41:00
on Memorial day to do a
41:01
lunch with the Clydesdale.
41:03
Hopefully we have some
41:04
content to talk about like we did today.
41:07
Um, and with that,
41:08
I hope you all have a great
41:09
three day weekend and we'll
41:12
see you all next time on
41:13
lunch with the Clydesdale.
41:16
Bye guys.