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We Started With Antique Baskets… and Ended With This · You Know What I Mean?

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  Hi. Hi, good morning.
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  Morning. Why does it feel like it's been
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  forever since we've recorded? Literally because we talked
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  what, Monday, last week? Tuesday.
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  OK, Really. Right, Right.
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  No, I think it was Monday. It was.
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  Yeah, I think I could be wrong, but it feels like it was forever
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  ago. Yeah, yeah, I definitely know it
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  was at least a day or two earlier, but yeah, I feel like
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  it's been forever. I know, so how was your?
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  Birthday. It was good.
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  Yeah, it was a really good day. I can't remember what's the
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  repetition or what's not based on what I've said here, but
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  Casey had asked me like, earlier on, like, what do you want for
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  your birthday? I'm like, I don't really, like
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  want anything. I just want to be thought of.
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  And I want sunshine. And I'm like, and I know you can
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  only control one of those. So it was like Gray and cloudy
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  in the beginning of the day. And then around like 3:00 PM,
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  the the sun came out, so we went for a walk with our dogs before
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  going to our dinner. He's like, OK, well, did you get
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  everything you wanted for your birthday?
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  And I was like, yes, that was really good.
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  Yeah. And then the, like, chef
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  experience of going and making our own meal and stuff.
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  It was really fun. Yeah.
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  I, I really liked it. I would totally do another one.
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  They do like brunch options, too.
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  I think that would be really fun just because it is way past your
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  bedtime. What?
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  Time was it. Well, it was 7 to 9, but like we
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  were like eating the dinner at like 8:45.
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  Really. Yes, because.
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  Yeah. So like, hold on intermission
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  first. I was just saying I always drink
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  so much I feel like and. So we're also talking and it's
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  like, I sound like, well, I did kind of just get out of bed not
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  long ago, so I sound kind of raspy.
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  But like I noticed in that because sometimes I'll go back
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  and like watch some of the episode and I'm like constantly
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  drinking, yes. Yeah, I never watch it, but I'll
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  like listen to it in the car, so I would never notice that.
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  OK, but so the chef thing, I didn't realize that you would be
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  like standing in an apron cooking.
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  Yeah, yeah. What did you think when I
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  explained? That actually I that's a lie.
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  I think I did know that you were going to do that, but when you
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  sent me the picture, I think I for some reason thought you'd
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  just send a picture of like, I don't know, being at a chef
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  table or something, like having all these cool yeah meals.
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  I don't. Know yeah no like you stand the
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  whole time so it's definitely not for like people I can't
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  stand for two hours yeah and it's cool because they have some
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  stuff that they like still have you like go through and make it
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  but like for instance we made pizza and they did one where
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  it's you know different than like the dough that you and I
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  make where it needs to rise and stuff like that so they had us
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  make the dough just so that we would know how to like make it
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  at home but then he had dough prepped for us to actually.
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  Like. Set it out and put the toppings
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  on. But yeah, it was really fun.
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  And the one thing that like I was like, I don't think I'm
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  really going to like it, but I wanted to try something
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  different than like, because a couple of the menus I was
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  looking at like the one we ended up doing was like the tour of
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  Italy type of thing. And then there was another one
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  that was still kind of like Italian vibes, but they were
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  doing a lot of like they were doing chicken thighs.
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  And I'm like, well, we make chicken thighs at home so much.
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  So I'm like, I want to do something different.
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  This one was like meatballs the pizza, which we make pizza at
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  home too, but in this like cauliflower red pepper salad
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  that I was like I did not think I was going to like because it
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  has like capers in it and I just don't think I'm really a capers
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  person. I guess.
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  I don't know. But when it all came together I
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  was like, I would genuinely make this at home.
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  It was so good. Like roasted cauliflower.
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  Yeah, it was roasted cauliflower.
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  Then you end up, like chopping parsley and mint.
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  Mint I would have never thought of.
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  Yeah. And then you chopped up red like
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  you Julian styled the red Peppers.
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  And then it was like a red wine, put a little bit of like sugar
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  in it and olive oil. And like that was the dressing,
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  if you will. It was just like super light and
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  fresh and like delicious. OK, have I told you that I I'm
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  almost always having a fantasy of becoming a chef?
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  Well, I mean no, but that doesn't surprise me whatsoever.
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  Well, it's usually when I'm watching like a chef show.
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  Oh yeah, I love like we just. You say your favorite process of
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  the soup is chopping the veggies.
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  Yes. Not me.
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  I'm like. But my favorite is watching TV
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  while I cook. We never did that when y'all
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  were here. Because you're not.
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  You like TV, but in the evening basically.
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  I have it on all day long when I'm cooking.
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  Yes. It's very calming to me.
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  Like I'll put on like Great British and like, oh, yeah,
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  popping or Harry Potter. The movies are kind of like
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  calming to me. Yeah.
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  But like I would never be able to do the the schedule.
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  I always think of that. I'm like, oh, I would.
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  I even said to Bobby maybe I should go to chef's school, but
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  then I'd have to work in a restaurant and be there.
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  I don't know the night. At least.
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  The last few days I've been going to bed at 7:00.
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  What? Why?
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  I don't know why, yeah. Is there anything I need to
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  know? I don't know.
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  Well, the other night I woke up at 3:15, which was odd.
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  That is odd. Are you tired from gardening and
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  doing nothing well? I am working on a book, so I've
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  been doing something, but Oh my gosh, yeah.
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  Not like having a bunch of training dogs or anything.
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  Yeah, yeah. But OK, what do you want to talk
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  about? No, I, I have some questions,
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  but is there anything else going on?
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  How how is dogs right now and. Yeah, all good.
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  Had to take Birdie to the vet yesterday.
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  We started noticing it when we were in Florida.
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  Like a lump or a bump on the back of one of her legs.
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  And so we're just like, I don't know, we just want to get it
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  checked to make sure she's OK. And when we first got in there,
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  like the vet was like feeling it and stuff like that.
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  And it's like very small, but it sounded like they were kind of
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  thinking it was like one of those like fatty lumps that like
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  Charlie has. When you guys went in, did you
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  guys get samples taken out of them?
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  Like they put needles in them and put to look.
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  On her slides a while back, it was probably like a year ago,
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  but then the other time that we took him, they just basically
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  felt them because there's something about if it comes away
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  from the skin, it's usually a fatty tumor they can't like.
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  Or like a cyst or. But yeah, like that's what I
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  mean. Genuinely.
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  She was like, Yep, that's exactly what I think it is.
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  So then she took a sample and went to look at it and she's
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  like, no, that's not what it is. So I'm like, well, like how many
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  are people are just leaving thinking that's what their dog
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  has. Yeah, I know.
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  And I will say, like, you know, we're a little bit more
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  sensitive to like, seeing like a lump on something.
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  So yeah, yeah. So I think it's going to be
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  totally fine. But we haven't gotten.
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  They have to send it out to pathology.
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  But of course, I get like anxious even thinking about like
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  the waiting game of that. Yeah.
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  And thinking it could be anything bad.
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  But yeah. So that's the only thing that
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  I'm kind of like feeling a little like.
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  Yeah. But I think she's going to be
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  totally fine, just kind of of course, when they're like, Oh
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  yeah, I think it's definitely this.
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  And then I'm just like, please don't tell me you think it's
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  definitely anything until we just know because like, we've
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  had that on, you know, our human stuff.
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  And I'm like, it just doesn't help.
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  Just wait till we have facts please.
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  Yeah. So yeah, so besides that, like
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  she's totally fine. She's not acting weird at all.
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  And then her roadies been he's had.
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  It's probably because, like, the weather's getting nicer here and
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  stuff, but he's been Mr. Energetic.
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  Like he needed two walks yesterday because I was down in
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  the kennel room. Still, it was like little after
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  5 in case he's like, I'm taking on our our dogs on another walk.
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  Like Rhody needs something to do.
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  I'm like, perfect. I'm like, I love that he's like
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  slightly bugging you and not actually bugging him.
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  But like, he must have just started like getting up and like
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  walking around, like, OK, what? I need to do something.
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  So I'm like, hey, that's, that's a good sign.
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  We'll do whatever the kid needs. Yeah.
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  I was thinking about something. It was just like an odd thing I
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  was thinking of. But Instagram to me, I think
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  I've realized what it is because a lot of people will say it's a
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  highlight reel, which it totally mainly is.
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  But it's basically like how it feels and you've only dated
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  Casey. But even think back to like when
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  you first were dating him, when you were first dating someone
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  and you put your best foot forward.
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  You're like, you do all the things.
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  You look super cute. I'll just do for myself.
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  I do my hair all the time or cute little dresses.
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  That's what Instagram feels like.
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  Like I almost shared a the this weekend we biked to Publix
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  'cause it was so nice. I almost shared a selfie of like
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  us like biking. And I was like, oh, 'cause I
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  have this thing in my head of it's just, well, it's a
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  highlight reel. I guess that's the easiest way
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  to say it. I've been feeling a little
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  annoyed by that. Not by people I follow
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  necessarily. Just like the idea of it.
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  Where you. Just like I want to share this
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  just 'cause I'm enjoying it in the moment, but you're like, we
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  never bike to public, so why am I sharing this type of thing?
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  Is that where your brain was going?
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  Yeah, just. Like I'm feeding into it.
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  I don't know. I'm just like in a not in like a
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  anti social media thing. But I think there's just seasons
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  to it. And like, I remember when I was
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  a new trainer, I couldn't share enough.
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  I wanted to share every single second of everything that I was
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  doing. Yeah.
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  And now I'm like, I mean, when I have a training dog and, you
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  know, you share for the owners you work with.
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  And. But I was just thinking, oh,
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  it'd be like, I got this cute little basket for eggs.
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  We went to a couple of antique stores this weekend and we the
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  first one I almost that does. Not seem like a you thing at
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  all, no. I well, I told you I would pick
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  stuff up off the side of the road like we did it.
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  While we were there. Oh, yeah, But that was really
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  cute. I remember we might pass the two
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  stools. And I was like, should I get
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  these? You're like, no.
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  See, that's so funny. I feel like you're there's like
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  2 vibes of you of like you'll pick up something that's like,
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  what? Hello.
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  That looks like it's been in someone's basement for 20 years
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  or like, Oh no, no, I cannot wear someone's shirt that's been
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  washed and they wore it once. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, totally. Yeah, there's two.
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  Screams are wild. Well, because we went into this
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  one antique store that it's by where we went to that cafe, the
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  White Wolf Cafe. So it's like a cute little area.
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  And I was like, how would that? Area seems like a vibe that
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  would have an antique store, yes.
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  And it's giant. I almost bought a big.
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  I needed like a small one, like small.
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  And I almost bought a big one because it's lady.
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  What? Basket.
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  Oh, OK, I'm sorry, I'm talking. I'm in my head already.
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  This. Like the shape you made, that's
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  when you were holding a sandwich.
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  I'm like, what do you mean it was?
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  Like a giant basket with like a handle.
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  And it was, it was like $90.00, but it was just.
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  God. But in this store, I guess
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  everyone has stalls which they're not really like.
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  You can't. Actually have a place like that
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  here. It's like their own little booth
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  section, right? Yeah.
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  But yeah, it's more like sections.
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  So you, it's not like this is Suzanne's area, so you don't
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  really know. So I walk in and I'm like, this
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  lady is like, oh, can I help you with anything?
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  Looking for something? And I'm like, yeah, basket for
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  my chickens eggs. And she was like, oh, I think I
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  have something. And I figure, oh, she's the
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  owner of the store. Love that.
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  And so start following her and she's like, I have like some
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  stuff in the back, like whatever overflow.
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  I'm like, great, taking me to the secret area of the store
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  special. It turns out Suzanne just has a
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  booth and then so I which is fine.
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  And so now I'm like into her story.
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  She's telling me about why she's there.
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  All these things I'm like in it, of course.
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  You are, so we go. Back and she shows me the basket
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  I'm like oh OK I almost get it just because I'm in her story
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  now $90.00 and I was like OK I'm going to run it by Bobby real
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  quick just see what he thinks and then we walked out fit on my
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  lap let's. Even get in.
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  Oh, if you're watching the episode of the video, you can
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  see the Kitty. So you didn't get the $90.00
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  basket? No.
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  So, so glad, Bobby. Was there with you.
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  He would have been like, oh jeez, your tail just whipped me
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  in the eyeball. He would have been like, if you
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  brought home an antique giant $90.00 basket.
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  He would just be like, it's like the Judy.
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  Jacket all over again. Yeah, but this Judy jacket, he
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  kept his mouth zipped again. Because you looked cute in it.
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  Oh, that was something that was also so funny.
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  I never realized, I think I said this to you, how groaning of a
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  person Bobby can be. Oh, I you told me and I told him
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  and he was like, really? I was groaning a lot.
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  Oh, I would tell him too, but like, especially when you guys
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  had a lot going on between the chickens and Charlie.
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  But it would be like, it would be like Charlie's heading to the
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  back, like dodging away from him.
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  And he'd just like, I just felt for him because like, you're
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  trying not to get mad at your old dog, but it's like he was
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  just doing weird behaviors. So it'd be like CCC And then
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  Charlie would be like, bye, dad, I'm out of here.
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  And then I would just hear no. So it wasn't like weird placed
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  groans. It was like very fair.
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  I would also be like, Oh my gosh.
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  Or you'd be taking like big deep breaths.
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  I'm like, at least he's regulating his system.
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  But that's how I could picture him like you bringing home this
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  $90.00 basket, him just being like.
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  No, no, He saves those groans for the very annoying moments
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  where he's like, all right, a big giant basket you don't need.
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  Fine, whatever. You know, he saves the groans
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  for like the moments when it's like, or I would say like, oh,
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  Jesus or something. Yes, yeah.
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  Exactly. So where'd you end up getting a
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  little basket from? Went up the road.
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  So you got anything at this? Place No.
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  No, that's. That's sometimes do you feel
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  like if you go in somewhere and especially if it's quiet, you
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  need to buy something. Oh yeah.
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  For sure, and also there's people at their stalls I.
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  Know so then I'm like literally my sister and I and Eloise went
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  to a place similar to that it's actually right next to Planet
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  Fitness and I've never been into it it's just a huge place but
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  I'm just not into antiques like my sister is but we're in there
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  and like these were like, you know she's used to like
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  thrifting where she'll find like really good finds in different
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  places that are like really cheap antique stores are like
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  expensive and so we're walking through.
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  Yeah. We're walking through and like
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  I'm just like looking for something to buy, not because I
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  like need anything or really want anything.
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  I'm just like I feel like I need to buy something.
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  So I found this like the thing that could be used is like a
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  vase and it was really cute, but it was like, have you seen it's
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  kind of like a trendy thing right now, those like white and
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  it's like a white vase or you know, bowl or something like
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  that has like the blue flowers on it and they look kind of
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  antiquey, but they're like really pretty.
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  Have you seen them? Probably, Yeah, Yeah, I feel
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  like if you. Knew I literally just want to
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  like Google it and see if I can show you a picture but.
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  I'm going to type in. White vase or I'm going to type
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  in antique white vase. I know there's a name for it.
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  So if someone's on here, they might be like it's this, it's
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  this with flowers, with blue flowers is really what it is.
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  This is very. Great content for this is very.
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  Important stuff right now, but you know how my mind is.
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  So they kind of look like, Oh my gosh, now it's like pulling up a
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  spinner thing. Wouldn't you want?
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  No, I don't want. Have you ever seen, like those
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  kinds of looks? OK.
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  Yeah, the the far one to the left, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So. I was like, oh, I'll get
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  something like this and like I've always been putting fresh
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  flowers and things, but I'm also like, it literally doesn't match
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  my vibe at all. Like, where am I going to put
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  it? Like I, I don't like all of my
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  stuff's kind of like warm or like a, you know, very neutral
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  vase with like brighter flowers. And I'm just thinking, like, I
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  need to just buy this just to buy it.
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  Yeah. So I'm like, carrying it around
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  and like, walking with this face.
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  And finally, I'm like, Chris, I don't need this.
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  She goes, Kate, you don't have to buy something.
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  And I'm like, oh, OK. And then I didn't realize that I
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  just set it down somewhere, which I didn't know.
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  I set it down in someone else's booth.
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  OK so that's what I was about to do like 5 times and Bobby takes
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  it back to the room. So I didn't know about the booth
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  situation until my sister saw me do that.
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  Or no she didn't see me do it because other she totally would
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  have had me put it back, told her.
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  Afterwards, yeah. I only did it to one thing and I
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  I feel bad we have a. System where it links to
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  someone's name I. Mean, it's not like they walk
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  in. You walk in and there's a sign
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  that says everything you touch make sure you put back into the
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  original booth. Yeah, that's.
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  Their fault for sure. For sure.
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  Well, I found a little basket at this other place.
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  It was like a thrift store antique, but they had it was
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  insane how many things was in this area and it went back so
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  far. Couldn't believe it was in this
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  building. And we found like 10 little
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  small baskets and I want it if I'm going to buy one there
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  instead of just going on Amazon, I want it to be like handmade.
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  That'd be nice handmade in Ohio. No way.
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  And then I found two big kitchen bowls not in.
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  Ohio, out of all places. Wow, so it was a great day.
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  And then the one thing that I do find it's a little exhausting,
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  like when you're really trying to look for things like, 'cause
• 18:10
  I, this is probably what. It's a sport, yes.
• 18:13
  Like, 'cause if you find stuff and what if they're worth more,
• 18:16
  I'll do nothing with that. Some people might like a bowl.
• 18:19
  I got for two of them. This is so boring for people.
• 18:24
  Maybe someone's into bowls in the kitchen, but there's this or
• 18:26
  in the. Thrifting, yeah.
• 18:28
  Yeah, yeah, it's very exciting. But Fire King, have you ever
• 18:31
  heard of that? It's like old kind of pottery.
• 18:33
  Yeah. Yeah, it sounds familiar.
• 18:36
  I know. It really does.
• 18:37
  I think so. Fire King though your.
• 18:39
  Face was like EW. No, no, it was my face didn't
• 18:43
  catch up with my thoughts because no, there's no EO behind
• 18:45
  that. Well, my.
• 18:46
  Mother-in-law has like a whole set of them and they're this
• 18:48
  really pretty green jade color and so I've always been like
• 18:51
  looking out for them. What?
• 18:53
  I don't know that I know this. Then I was thinking more like
• 18:55
  Terra cotta, but that's not it. Oh.
• 18:57
  No, you should look it up. It's well, to me it's like, I
• 19:00
  don't know, it's like old, but really cool.
• 19:02
  Oh yeah. So I found these two big bowls
• 19:04
  that I thought maybe these are, they weren't Fire King, but they
• 19:07
  look kind of similar. And so and then I get back and I
• 19:10
  put in a ChatGPT, is this worth more than I paid for the big 1?
• 19:14
  Not so much. But then it was like, not so
• 19:16
  much. But if there's a number
• 19:18
  underneath instead of the name of who made it, there could be
• 19:22
  something there. I go to look at the one that's
• 19:24
  slightly smaller, flip it over a 13.
• 19:27
  So I put it in and I'm like, what is OK?
• 19:29
  Yeah, I got one. I paid 25 I think or something.
• 19:34
  It could be worth 150. I'm gonna keep it for myself.
• 19:38
  You're. Gonna keep it for sure, but it's
• 19:39
  just knowing that you have something of such high value.
• 19:41
  Exactly. That makes it.
• 19:43
  Special Yes. What are you gonna do with these
• 19:44
  things? Just put them in the closet.
• 19:50
  Maybe it's time. Did you ever end up getting rid
• 19:52
  of rid of some of your mugs? Yes, Bobby was upset with me, by
• 19:56
  the way. Yeah.
• 19:56
  What do you mean I was upset with you?
• 19:58
  Well. Because one of them it was.
• 20:01
  Just a white mug from West Elm? Ask.
• 20:03
  Him No, because if I ask. Is it the one that?
• 20:06
  Has the little Ridge around the thing.
• 20:08
  Yeah, I. Loved that one.
• 20:10
  OK, well, I. Threw it away because it's just
• 20:12
  taking you throw. These away I didn't see we don't
• 20:15
  I do put. It on Facebook marketplate.
• 20:17
  No, don't you? That video?
• 20:19
  What? Donate.
• 20:20
  Them I should have done that yeah.
• 20:21
  So we just like because we had way too many as well.
• 20:24
  So we just like did a pot well, and I also, I think I told you I
• 20:26
  went through a bunch of closets. Yeah.
• 20:29
  Yeah, so. We had like tell me that.
• 20:30
  Oh. Geez, yeah, I went through a
• 20:32
  bunch of closets when we had a couple of days off still prior
• 20:35
  to when we started back up of just being like, why do we have
• 20:39
  so much clutter in here? I think I felt, I felt excited
• 20:42
  after like purging your your stuff that I was like, I need to
• 20:46
  purge. I was thinking it was the
• 20:50
  opposite, like, you know, I'm cluttery and you're like, I
• 20:52
  cannot do this. It's like followed me to
• 20:55
  Wisconsin. No, it was just more of like AI
• 20:58
  think I was in the kind of that spring I need to get things out
• 21:01
  of here type of vibe I do. That anytime I watch, anytime I
• 21:05
  want to really clean, it's either probably based on my
• 21:07
  cycle. I really think this, I don't
• 21:09
  know based off fact, it's just a feeling.
• 21:11
  Or I go and I watch the home edit show on Netflix.
• 21:14
  I told you about that. I can't help but want to clean
• 21:18
  and declutter. Can I ask you a question?
• 21:21
  So I had ChatGPT pull some questions.
• 21:26
  KKK. Oh my gosh.
• 21:27
  Never say that again out loud. Did you just hear what I just
• 21:30
  said? Oh my God, I think that's.
• 21:33
  Based on context, I don't think like totally, but like a three
• 21:36
  times. It's like, whoa, how dare.
• 21:39
  You I just don't, I just don't feel like it's good energy.
• 21:41
  I don't think I said anything where it's like, I'm not looking
• 21:44
  like I don't think I offended anyone.
• 21:45
  But, you know, it's like you don't want to break a mirror
• 21:48
  even though you're probably not going to get bad luck, but you
• 21:50
  don't want to get bad luck for seven years.
• 21:51
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's how it's just like
• 21:53
  in your head because you've heard it once or 1000 times.
• 21:56
  Yeah, Yep. OK.
• 21:57
  What's your question? OK, let's see.
• 22:02
  Have you ever had a moment in your business when you realized,
• 22:05
  I don't think I want to do this the same way anymore?
• 22:09
  Oh yeah, probably a bazillion times.
• 22:15
  That's the same way because you evolve, you learn new things,
• 22:18
  you do things differently. That kind of stuff yeah, that's
• 22:21
  kind of like a that's always going to happen.
• 22:23
  I think when I run into stuff like I can't think of anything
• 22:26
  that that's really, really big, they're like, I don't want to do
• 22:29
  it this way anymore. Like there's certain things I'm
• 22:31
  just like, I'm not going to do offer this anymore or I'm not
• 22:33
  going to, you know, those kinds of things obviously have come
• 22:36
  up. I, I think this is what you and
• 22:40
  I have also talked about. It's like I am so uptight about
• 22:44
  certain things that like, even if I was like, I'm going to just
• 22:47
  like not care. I, I know I can't do it.
• 22:50
  Like I even said, I'm like, you know what after, because your
• 22:53
  dogs were great in the kennels and stuff, but like, I think I'm
• 22:56
  going to try just like putting them in, taking their stuff off,
• 22:58
  closing the door and walking away.
• 23:00
  Oh. You mean like trained dogs are
• 23:01
  when they're back for board? Just like, you know, see how
• 23:06
  that feels? I can't do it, Bethany.
• 23:09
  Why? Because then what happens is
• 23:13
  when I come in, I can I can do that and leave and it's fine.
• 23:17
  When I come in, then they're all standing and staring at me.
• 23:22
  Yes. I cannot have that.
• 23:25
  OK. For for my.
• 23:26
  Mental health, it's not even that I'm like, I care about the
• 23:29
  dog standing. I don't like the like that vibe.
• 23:33
  It's like what about me? When am I next?
• 23:36
  And it's like, Oh, you have no reason to be even thinking that
• 23:39
  right now because you just had a huge day or whatever.
• 23:41
  So like I go into like spiraling.
• 23:43
  So that's one thing that I would say that I like have a reason
• 23:46
  have been thinking about like let me just try this.
• 23:49
  It quickly was like a no go for me.
• 23:51
  I wonder. Because you have more dogs, you
• 23:53
  work in that area, yes. It has to be that, yeah, because
• 23:57
  I don't think that it would. And that's the thing.
• 23:58
  It's like how you were saying with that one dog when you're in
• 24:02
  your gym and you're like, I, I cannot have the whining while
• 24:07
  I'm doing like this. It's like if I just want to walk
• 24:09
  in there, because sometimes I'll just walk in there and like we,
• 24:12
  you know, this is the example honestly that made me think I
• 24:15
  can't do this. I Sunday or something.
• 24:18
  I'm like, OK, I need to do our dog's nails, but I keep the
• 24:20
  Dremel down in the kennel room. So I just went down there just
• 24:24
  to go get the Dremel. They and they had all just
• 24:26
  gotten long walks in a social like three of them stand up and
• 24:31
  are staring at me like and I'm just walking through and I don't
• 24:34
  know why I can't just like look away and ignore it.
• 24:37
  I can't I can't do it. So I'm like is this a toxic
• 24:39
  trait of me or what? But.
• 24:43
  That is so interesting though, because for me I there wasn't
• 24:47
  and so I don't know if people know what we're talking about.
• 24:49
  So if I go into my kennel room, I, I don't care if they're
• 24:53
  laying down. I don't want them like busting
• 24:54
  out of the kennel or anything, but I don't ask them to lay
• 24:57
  down, that kind of thing. And then I leave and then I come
• 25:00
  back in whatever. But I'm not working in my kennel
• 25:02
  room. It's smaller.
• 25:03
  It's really just where they're in their kennels.
• 25:06
  So but a while ago, I don't know how many years ago this was, but
• 25:11
  I think I saw you or another trainer like doing that where
• 25:14
  the dog is always in a down when they're in their kennel.
• 25:16
  And I was like, oh, that's great.
• 25:17
  I do love that. So I started really trying that
• 25:20
  and then I started to think, I think it was after I was trying
• 25:22
  with one or two dogs I was working with and that it was it
• 25:26
  was doing what is not having them do that is making you feel?
• 25:30
  It was the opposite for me. It was making me feel on edge,
• 25:33
  like I would felt like it was stressing me out.
• 25:35
  And I was like, I don't think an owner is going to do this.
• 25:37
  So that's so interesting. Yeah.
• 25:38
  Yeah, like I don't care. Well, honestly, that's a lie.
• 25:41
  I just, I just blatantly lied. I was going to say I don't care
• 25:43
  if I like check the cameras and they're standing.
• 25:46
  I, I don't if it's like they're standing up and having water or
• 25:48
  readjusting, it's the like dogs that I know are going to go home
• 25:53
  and like cry in the kennel and be pushy and I'll like check and
• 25:57
  you're standing just because I just walked out.
• 25:59
  Like I'm like, why am I even checking the camera?
• 26:01
  Like, why am I doing that to myself?
• 26:02
  But like when we had Georgia the Great Dane in this last crew, I
• 26:07
  had to check the cameras with her because she was, you know,
• 26:11
  and stuff here and there. So when I was starting to like,
• 26:13
  OK, taking your E collar off of her or not using the bark
• 26:16
  collar, I was just looking and she would be quiet but standing.
• 26:19
  And I'm like, this is no, I need to just like not check the
• 26:24
  camera because this is driving me nuts.
• 26:26
  But one thing I will say that like I've gotten way more, this
• 26:30
  has been years of getting more relaxed on this.
• 26:33
  It's like, I obviously like love teaching and same with you like
• 26:36
  a really, you know, structured heel and having that job to do.
• 26:40
  But I'm just way less like depends on the dog, but I just,
• 26:46
  I, it doesn't need to be as perfect as I used to focus on.
• 26:50
  And I think it's just 'cause sometimes I would also see like,
• 26:54
  you know, some dogs just can handle do looking around more.
• 27:00
  Like I love walking like Birdie and Johnny where they're like
• 27:02
  both walking so beautifully, but like they'll be a little ahead
• 27:06
  or a little behind. So I've definitely gotten more
• 27:10
  like, you know, if this dog can handle being a little bit more
• 27:13
  like loosey goosey, I'm cool with that.
• 27:15
  Where I definitely probably was more like, Nope.
• 27:18
  Like if I'm saying heal, it needs to be like the perfect
• 27:20
  heal. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:21
  Yeah, well, and I I feel like I'm I'm like that with creative
• 27:24
  things. I think where I'm not like that
• 27:26
  with training stuff. I wish it was more like that, to
• 27:28
  be honest. I think it's kind of like the
• 27:30
  I've always wished that I was like more type A like more like
• 27:34
  because I feel like when I hear type AI think productive,
• 27:37
  getting all the things done, where I get things done, but
• 27:40
  it's kind of fluid. That's where we.
• 27:43
  Like are backwards or not backwards, but just flip flop.
• 27:45
  It's like I am. I'm actually genuinely not type
• 27:48
  A like, OK, I would guess I wouldn't technically.
• 27:51
  I'm definitely not like, you know, when do you ever see those
• 27:53
  reels? When it's like your type B
• 27:55
  friend pulls up like and then it's like they're getting out
• 27:58
  and it's like they've got their water bottle, they've got their,
• 28:01
  you know, music playing still, they act forget to put their car
• 28:04
  in park. Like I'm not quite like that.
• 28:06
  Like Casey definitely would be considered like my type B
• 28:08
  friend, but I'm definitely not like type AI haven't.
• 28:12
  Ever met a type A person? Steph's Type A and like she is
• 28:16
  so, and like, it's her attention to detail.
• 28:20
  It's something where it's like, whoa, like that's like a skill.
• 28:23
  It probably drives her nuts sometimes cuz she's like, I am
• 28:25
  so like, oh, I have a certain way that I like things.
• 28:28
  I would say I am definitely Type A when it comes to kind of like
• 28:30
  the training stuff. But when it comes to the
• 28:32
  creative stuff, no, I'm like, that looks good.
• 28:35
  Put it out like good enough, yeah.
• 28:38
  We're I am the opposite, yes. Yeah, like I think.
• 28:41
  You said something and it wasn't bad or anything, it was more
• 28:44
  like an observation. It's just interesting talking
• 28:47
  with you about training stuff where when I sent home the
• 28:50
  Golden early, and I don't know if you said it because of course
• 28:54
  you're supportive of whatever, but you didn't think you'd be
• 28:57
  able to do that like send home a dog early like that who's not
• 29:01
  like the most like cuz the golden.
• 29:04
  I could have dealt with it the next week and it would have been
• 29:06
  OK. Yeah.
• 29:07
  It wasn't like a dog that was going after me.
• 29:09
  And that's not what I totally live with, where you said you
• 29:12
  wouldn't be. You probably wouldn't do that.
• 29:14
  Yeah, I don't. Think so, yeah.
• 29:15
  Where I like that with creative stuff, I will work on something
• 29:18
  and come back to it, work on it, come back to it.
• 29:20
  I overthink it so much because that is how I feel about
• 29:24
  creative stuff, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 29:27
  I know. Have you dabbled at all with is
• 29:30
  it Claude or Cloud? Yes.
• 29:33
  Bobby has really been into it for his job as an engineer.
• 29:36
  OK, And then I saw a photographer girl who remember
• 29:40
  when I was going on those walks with people.
• 29:42
  Yeah, and. It was like women entrepreneurs.
• 29:46
  Yeah, like she working. Walk type thing, Yeah.
• 29:48
  And so she was talking about it and mentioning Claude, and I was
• 29:52
  like, what is Claude? I didn't hear anything about it.
• 29:54
  It was a couple weeks ago and then she got me really
• 29:57
  interested and it's kind of, it's a little more overwhelming
• 29:59
  to me than ChatGPT, but yeah, I literally.
• 30:02
  Just downloaded it yesterday because I saw someone else
• 30:04
  talking about it and I think I read something about like it can
• 30:06
  feel a little bit more like laid back type vibes versus, you
• 30:11
  know, it's personal or like, yeah, I guess it's like a lot of
• 30:14
  like content creators are finding that we used.
• 30:18
  You were using ChatGPT kind of when it was like, it wasn't new,
• 30:23
  but it was like new to a lot of people.
• 30:24
  Like the a lot of people hadn't even like I hadn't even like
• 30:27
  heard of it yet. So then when you mentioned it, I
• 30:31
  started diving into it and now it's like so, so, so great.
• 30:35
  But like, it's one of those things where again, you have to
• 30:37
  have it so dialed in to not sound like everyone's posts are
• 30:42
  like, so I was like, oh, maybe I'll like diversify and start
• 30:45
  training this one. I have not done any training.
• 30:46
  So I just downloaded it yesterday and some of the I'm
• 30:48
  like, I'm going to ask it some questions for the podcast.
• 30:51
  And I just kept telling her, like, no, this is not what I'm
• 30:54
  looking for. It's like the first round of
• 30:56
  questions it gave me, which maybe you'll like it, I don't
• 30:58
  know. But I, I did not well, at first
• 31:01
  I was like, can you not ask me anything about dog training?
• 31:04
  But this is this is one of them. I would never speak like this.
• 31:10
  We both chose this career which, let's be honest, most don't
• 31:15
  fully understand. I was.
• 31:17
  Talking for you as if like it's like telling.
• 31:19
  Me that I should ask this question.
• 31:21
  OK, what's the this is to you? What's the most unhinged thing a
• 31:24
  client has ever said to you that had you?
• 31:27
  Just what said to you that you had to just smile through?
• 31:33
  First off? You would never smile through
• 31:35
  though. Oh well.
• 31:36
  I did, you know what mine is but it was like 7 years ago.
• 31:39
  Well, and that's like, what do you respond to it?
• 31:41
  Have we ever talked about that on here?
• 31:43
  Talk about it all the time and trainer in you.
• 31:46
  I guess not. So you want me to tell it real
• 31:49
  quick. So it was an owner who so I mean
• 31:52
  we're E collar trainers. So I it was a lady who I don't
• 31:58
  know a friend recommended her and in her e-mail to me, she I
• 32:03
  responded to her contact form. Her dog has anxiety and I was
• 32:06
  like, I responded, I'm not the right fit.
• 32:09
  I can recommend some other trainers.
• 32:11
  And she was snarky and her reply back to me, it was something
• 32:16
  like, I thought you were supposed to be the best, not the
• 32:20
  best. Or it was something that was
• 32:21
  like saying. Something like that.
• 32:23
  I thought you were supposed to be 1.
• 32:24
  Of the best trainers and so that even to me you can't help but
• 32:27
  read it that way. Belittling.
• 32:29
  Yes, yes. And so, yeah, at that time I was
• 32:32
  like, well, I don't like how she responded, but I'll give her the
• 32:35
  benefit of the doubt because she asked if we could get on a phone
• 32:39
  call. So I was like, sure, let's get
• 32:40
  on a phone call. And she was so nice on the phone
• 32:44
  call. It was bizarre.
• 32:45
  Well, not bizarre, but I was expecting different.
• 32:47
  So I decided on the phone call. OK, yeah, let's try.
• 32:51
  I'll work with your dog. So on drop off day she pulls up
• 32:56
  and the first she doesn't say even say hi to me, which is
• 32:59
  that's wild. In itself so.
• 33:01
  Weird like everyone is so nice when they drop off their dog.
• 33:03
  Like I had a couple. People get out of the car and I
• 33:05
  can tell it's from nerves and they don't say hi and they
• 33:07
  don't, I don't think they mean to make sure I get their stuff
• 33:10
  out. And I'm like hi, like, no, Nope,
• 33:13
  just hold off for a second. We'll just chat for a bit.
• 33:15
  But like, yeah, this one was just like rude.
• 33:17
  Yeah, so. She just gets out of the car and
• 33:20
  the first thing she asked me is how many hours a day is he going
• 33:23
  to be in the kennel? And to me, that's such a trust
• 33:26
  thing. And with the board and train,
• 33:28
  I'm not working with 25 dogs at a time.
• 33:30
  This is not like a chain. It's a very personal thing with
• 33:34
  the owner and trainer. So right away I'm like, she
• 33:37
  doesn't trust me, there's no way this is going to work.
• 33:39
  So I said, well, I don't know exactly how many hours a day
• 33:43
  your dog is going to be in the kennel.
• 33:46
  I say it really nice. And I was like, you just need to
• 33:48
  trust me. Or I think I asked, like, do you
• 33:50
  trust me or you just need to trust me?
• 33:52
  And she was like, oh, you foolish girl.
• 33:54
  And she, like, laughed and then went back to the car to get her
• 33:57
  dog. And I was like, what the fuck
• 33:58
  just happened? Like, OK, and she's from the
• 34:02
  north, like, New York. And I was like, well, maybe this
• 34:04
  is a northern thing. I don't know.
• 34:06
  And so I was, like, constantly trying.
• 34:08
  She said it two more times, I think two more about something
• 34:12
  else I said. And at the time Bobby had just
• 34:14
  quit his job to work with me. And so I felt a little pressure
• 34:19
  to like not turn away the money really, or the chance to no,
• 34:24
  it's about the money really at that point.
• 34:26
  So. So I ignore all the signs and
• 34:29
  then, well, that's the whole thing.
• 34:31
  But then that's what you smiled. Through, Yeah.
• 34:34
  That's the thing I smiled through.
• 34:35
  And then I ended up sending her dog home early.
• 34:38
  She showed up 3 hours before she was supposed to and texted me,
• 34:42
  which my phone is on silent. And she's like, I'm sitting, I'm
• 34:44
  sitting outside of my car. Can I come get him at like 4 AM,
• 34:47
  4:00 AM, whatever. Yeah, super early.
• 34:49
  She was supposed to come at 7:30.
• 34:51
  Stupid. Early so it's so weird.
• 34:54
  So yeah, I just ignored all the signs.
• 34:55
  So that was the first one where I was like, OK, I've never seen
• 34:59
  that again. Yeah, something that I'll smile
• 35:01
  through is like if during a go home session or something like
• 35:05
  that, and it's like a couple, if they are kind of like, I don't
• 35:11
  know, yeah. Being whatever towards each
• 35:14
  other, it's like marriage counseling.
• 35:15
  There's certain things I'll step in on, but other things I'm
• 35:17
  like, this is not my place. Like, yeah, so I'll just kind of
• 35:19
  like wait until they're done having their little moment and
• 35:22
  I'm like, all right, back to this.
• 35:25
  So those are moments I'll definitely I'm like, I'm like, I
• 35:28
  don't like if you guys are having a disagreement on how we
• 35:31
  implement something, I'll jump in like and I'll be like, OK,
• 35:34
  this is what I would do if the dog was in my care.
• 35:37
  But if it's anything personal, I'm like, not my place.
• 35:40
  Like I can't help you guys if that's.
• 35:43
  Well, there was another time. Did I ever tell you when I
• 35:45
  again, this was like my first or second year training.
• 35:48
  Where I went for a follow up visit, it was these two little
• 35:51
  Boston Terriers who I worked with, who I loved and it was, I
• 35:57
  don't know how long after the board and train, but they were
• 36:00
  like, can you come over the wife or she was fiance at the time.
• 36:04
  I was like sure came over and I'm literally like standing in
• 36:08
  their apartment where the boyfriend is like I'm not on
• 36:11
  board with this E caller. I don't want to use it anymore,
• 36:15
  and I'm literally saying they're like, OK, what do you want me to
• 36:17
  do? Like so I didn't actually didn't
• 36:20
  stop trained. On it like.
• 36:22
  I was like, what are we doing here?
• 36:23
  Like just by the time I felt like that was my responsibility
• 36:27
  to like make sure they were OK. And so I remember I was getting
• 36:31
  because there is a part of me that gets very defensive and
• 36:36
  where I just want to like go into fight mode.
• 36:38
  Yeah. And so I was getting aggravated
• 36:40
  because I was. And I started saying something
• 36:42
  where I was like, why? Why I wouldn't have maybe worked
• 36:45
  with your DOMS if you felt like this.
• 36:47
  Like why are you telling me it's after?
• 36:48
  Yeah, it was very weird where like when I get into that mode,
• 36:51
  I'm like kind of shaky and like a little bit like it's because.
• 36:53
  Your adrenaline's just pumping, yes?
• 36:55
  Yeah, that was the other thing. You already said yours.
• 37:00
  I have a question. That's not dog training.
• 37:02
  I remember from another time it gave it to me.
• 37:05
  What is a moment in our friendship that stands out to
• 37:07
  you? My gosh, I have one you want.
• 37:11
  Me to say mine. Yeah, I have a time to think
• 37:13
  about it. It's not really fair.
• 37:15
  When we were in Rhode Island and I had my little panic attack and
• 37:20
  you took me outside and we went and sat on a bench and you were
• 37:23
  just super supportive and sweet. So I think I start crying.
• 37:26
  I don't remember, but yeah, you did.
• 37:27
  I was really panicked. And you sat on the bench with me
• 37:30
  and that was so nice. Well, see, I was going to say
• 37:33
  something that's not as sentimental and nice, but like I
• 37:36
  think it also. Yeah, but.
• 37:38
  It's like it's such a testament to your character.
• 37:41
  What I'm going to say is I remember the first time I came
• 37:43
  to visit Florida, like you were so down for I wanted to go find
• 37:50
  alligators and like to you, you're like genuinely probably
• 37:54
  not that interested in doing that cause like never had
• 37:56
  anyone. Ask me to go find alligators,
• 37:57
  Probably, yeah. And you were like, we're going
• 37:59
  to find alligators. We did every kind of thing to
• 38:03
  find an alligator that we could do.
• 38:04
  Like we took the van and that like bumpy road and found the
• 38:08
  biggest alligators ever. And then you're like, let's go
• 38:12
  to Wakaiva. Then we went and did that.
• 38:14
  Like I was like, Oh my gosh, like this is so nice.
• 38:17
  Like I just really wanted to see an alligator, like in real,
• 38:23
  excuse me, in real life. That's not like a petting zoo or
• 38:26
  something. I think you go pet an alligator.
• 38:28
  But you know how there's like signs on your way.
• 38:29
  I don't even know if you guys have noticed this, but there's
• 38:31
  signs on your way into Florida. That's like, stop here.
• 38:33
  Live baby. Alligators.
• 38:35
  Their land. Is one place, yeah.
• 38:36
  I don't. Want to do that?
• 38:38
  Yeah, yeah, that makes me sad. So I'm like, I want to find them
• 38:40
  out where they're like in their environment and.
• 38:44
  Giant one, I remember you like I.
• 38:47
  Lost. I was having a hell of a body
• 38:49
  experience. And took a picture.
• 38:51
  You're like, I gotta send this to my dad.
• 38:53
  He's gonna freak out. Yeah, yes.
• 38:55
  Yeah, because I mean, growing up, my dad and I watched
• 38:58
  Crocodile Hunter like crazy, like we were.
• 39:01
  So I've always been into like cracks and even those are
• 39:04
  alligators. But yeah, I remember being like,
• 39:08
  do you guys, like, have a place where we could, like, go see
• 39:10
  them and you're like, Bobby, where to where can we go find
• 39:13
  alligators? Like, right away I was like, Oh
• 39:16
  my God, that's someone that like, you know, 'cause it's
• 39:19
  like, you probably are not like on a Tuesday.
• 39:22
  Let's go look for alligators. Oh no.
• 39:24
  Well, no, definitely not. But like, I love wild animals
• 39:27
  and you. Also like totally live off of
• 39:31
  other people's like responses to things or like, so when I was
• 39:37
  freaking out with the Gator, you're freaking out extra with
• 39:39
  me. Oh my gosh, that's like.
• 39:42
  When someone texts me and it's not like with at least one
• 39:46
  exclamation point or one emoji. Yeah.
• 39:48
  I'm like, what about. Yeah, So I chased that.
• 39:51
  That's so fun. No, but I like when Bobby.
• 39:54
  Well, in high school, when I went to Yellowstone with my
• 39:57
  family, one of my best experiences in my entire life
• 40:01
  because you are constantly, like, looking for animals.
• 40:04
  And then, like, you see a long line and it's like the
• 40:06
  adrenaline of it. And you see like a wild animal
• 40:09
  in the wild. It's just.
• 40:11
  Even if it's just like you're in something like that and you just
• 40:15
  see like a normal deer, You're like, look, a deer.
• 40:17
  It's like for us, we see deer all of the time.
• 40:21
  Yeah. Oh.
• 40:21
  Yeah, yeah, it's still just the. Experience of like being and
• 40:24
  it's like their deer, their kind of animal like.
• 40:27
  Well, it's like that one time when we actually saw a Gray wolf
• 40:31
  like 25 feet from our van. That's and that's when I
• 40:34
  realized, Oh my God, like we are surrounded by wild animals.
• 40:38
  Like what? It's just so crazy.
• 40:41
  Like, didn't you? Have some of your dogs out for a
• 40:43
  potty break, Louis was. Off leash, yeah, yeah, that was
• 40:47
  probably. The best dog to have off leash
• 40:50
  can. You imagine if, if we had all
• 40:51
  four of our dogs, Sadie, at the time, you would have had a off.
• 40:55
  It would have. Been a totally different story.
• 40:56
  It would have been. It would have been bad.
• 40:59
  They would have. Chased the wolf?
• 41:00
  Yes. Into wolf territory.
• 41:02
  Can you imagine? Oh my.
• 41:03
  Gosh, OK. If it was this pack, though,
• 41:05
  there's no way Johnny would leave Johnny.
• 41:08
  I'm staying back with mom like. We tell you how when we went
• 41:11
  over to the boomer's house and Johnny was with us in the
• 41:14
  backyard. Oh, we told you and he.
• 41:15
  Yeah, we were. There, inside.
• 41:17
  Oh yes, you were here. He's soaked.
• 41:21
  Five houses over on the lake and we were like Beanie and he saw
• 41:25
  us and ran back to us. So it was like he was just
• 41:27
  trying to find us. Like where do they go?
• 41:28
  Oh. My God, no.
• 41:31
  That is so him. OK.
• 41:34
  Did you have any others? Yeah.
• 41:36
  Sure, it gave me some. Wait, Yeah, like how about non
• 41:44
  dog training stuff? Oh and by the way with Claude
• 41:48
  one thing I did learn is you can export your PD like APDF of your
• 41:53
  conversations from ChatGPT over a lot so it knows you better.
• 41:58
  That's nice that's I have one. If you had to describe me using
• 42:02
  only one. Well, do you watch much much
• 42:04
  reality TV? Yeah.
• 42:07
  OK. Real Housewives using.
• 42:09
  Me. Or if you had to describe me
• 42:11
  using only a reality TV character, who would you pick
• 42:15
  and why? Oh my gosh, I just burnt.
• 42:18
  I have. Mine for you what Prue Prue
• 42:21
  leaf? Look at this.
• 42:23
  Great. Sugar.
• 42:24
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 42:26
  But also Prue is like sneaky sassy, which you for sure can be
• 42:32
  where like Prue's the one where it's like you know, you're going
• 42:34
  through the judging and it's like she's always the nice one,
• 42:39
  but then once in a while she's like.
• 42:41
  Not your best work. Literally like that is totally
• 42:45
  Bethany I always. Think I need to start preparing,
• 42:48
  I need to start on my baking skills because I've been
• 42:50
  watching Great British Bake Off Totally honest nonstop the last
• 42:53
  like 2 days. Just like whenever I have the TV
• 42:55
  on, that's it. Good, because I made some brown
• 42:57
  butter cookies. So when we eat our ice cream
• 42:59
  with brown butter cookie, we have to be watching it,
• 43:02
  obviously, right not to. And so when I start thinking
• 43:04
  like, oh, my God, I should really prepare.
• 43:06
  Like if they come to America and they have like, an American one,
• 43:09
  which wouldn't be as good. But then I'm like, because I
• 43:12
  know what I would do in the episodes, every time Paul comes
• 43:16
  to the thing, I would just go ahead and put my hand out.
• 43:18
  Yeah. Because.
• 43:20
  Because. I can't believe no one does that
• 43:22
  like I would just maybe there's rules.
• 43:25
  Oh, that could be. That would be smart.
• 43:27
  Yeah, they're probably like, OK, like, yeah, you know, like you
• 43:31
  guys want this or that, but like, you can't be trying to
• 43:34
  like, lead the show type of thing.
• 43:36
  Oh yeah, I don't know. Who knows, because.
• 43:38
  That's my high school personality.
• 43:40
  I would just. Someone every single time
• 43:42
  putting their hand out and I love that.
• 43:44
  OK, that's enough, Charlie. You can't keep putting your hand
• 43:46
  out. Yeah, OK, I can't.
• 43:48
  I'm not. I'm terrible on the spot stuff
• 43:50
  because I'm thinking of the housewives.
• 43:52
  I watch all the housewives. See I.
• 43:53
  Wouldn't. Honestly, there's very few I
• 43:55
  wouldn't even know. Yeah, see, it's not the same.
• 43:58
  I'm not like Theresa. Judice, am I?
• 44:00
  No. No, she's awful.
• 44:02
  I mean, which is very fun to watch though, yeah.
• 44:05
  She's great TV, yeah. What's something about your life
• 44:08
  right now that looks really good on the outside but feels
• 44:10
  different on the inside? Oh.
• 44:13
  My gosh, I do love. A deep question, I gotta say,
• 44:15
  but yeah, I mean. We left him on a Cliff note of
• 44:17
  mirror. That's honestly I shouldn't even
• 44:19
  say dark or anything. Like it's just no like.
• 44:22
  Bobby was asking that Are you going to pick up on what, Kate?
• 44:24
  He listened to the whole episode.
• 44:25
  Are you going to pick up on that?
• 44:27
  Yeah, no. I would just say that it's just
• 44:29
  like unknowns of like, you know, trajectory of life.
• 44:34
  And I think that that's the type of stuff that I don't even want
• 44:37
  to say. Like I don't want to put words
• 44:39
  on it because I truly feel like our words have value.
• 44:42
  I don't want to say like it feels heavy or anything like
• 44:43
  that because that's not the right way to describe it, but I
• 44:47
  just feel like, yeah, I feel like I probably give off a vibe
• 44:51
  like in my stories and stuff like that, that I like have it
• 44:53
  all together. I know what my next steps are
• 44:55
  for everything. And I do feel like that from
• 44:57
  like a business perspective, but I don't feel like that from a
• 45:00
  personal perspective, yeah. Yeah, OK.
• 45:03
  It feels like conflicting or like just something you're
• 45:06
  working through. And that's also, that's one
• 45:07
  thing too, Like I always used to.
• 45:10
  And even when I'm talking about Instagram as a highlight reel,
• 45:14
  it's like you don't have to share everything.
• 45:15
  Like, and I know sometimes I do just from a space of like, it's
• 45:19
  almost like a desperation of like wanting to be who I am
• 45:24
  authentically and not have to hide pieces of myself.
• 45:27
  I don't share everything like yesterday.
• 45:29
  And this is not, this is not deep at all, but like I was out
• 45:33
  there holding Betty, my chicken and I had to soak her butt in
• 45:38
  water because she had a big clump of poop on her butt.
• 45:41
  I was like, no one's going to know I did this.
• 45:44
  This is like something that I'm totally like really going to
• 45:48
  share. That's not really, I think like
• 45:53
  I guess right now I'm and we talked about it a little bit
• 45:56
  last time, but there's a little bit of guilt in me for how happy
• 46:00
  I am not having training dogs right now.
• 46:03
  So it was, it's like, I don't know.
• 46:07
  And I'm chasing other stuff that's still dog training
• 46:10
  related, but I really love how my life looks and feels without
• 46:14
  and two boarding dogs just went home.
• 46:16
  So I like how that feels. And so part of me is like, and I
• 46:21
  don't know. So that's the part that I don't
• 46:25
  really share, I guess. And it feels just weird.
• 46:27
  And it also is, I love it how it feels and working on creative
• 46:32
  stuff. I know, you know, it's like one
• 46:34
  of those. Things too where, you know, you
• 46:36
  see how people's businesses evolve and it's like can be
• 46:39
  totally different scales, but you know, certain people are,
• 46:41
  it's like, oh, if they're like the CEO of the company or
• 46:43
  something, it's like they, they end up not doing certain parts
• 46:47
  of their business that they might have done when they were,
• 46:50
  you know, first starting and stuff like that.
• 46:52
  And that can shift and look different and like I feel like
• 46:55
  that's totally fine. Oh my gosh, I just burped like
• 47:03
  this. Definitely picks that up.
• 47:04
  Oh my God, it wasn't. That loud did you wouldn't hear
• 47:07
  her burp? It was.
• 47:08
  Gonna be so much, it's gonna be like 40. 6 minutes and I'm gonna
• 47:11
  go listen for the burp. Yeah, but I guess part of me
• 47:16
  also thinks about it's probably like you with it's totally
• 47:19
  different, but a similar thought, maybe similar thought
• 47:22
  process. I'm just questioning things and
• 47:24
  like, because I think about the trainer in you, which I love so
• 47:27
  much and I'm like, well, not that I don't I'm not ever going
• 47:30
  to train dogs again, but it's like someone who you have worked
• 47:36
  with who lives in Florida and owner and she reached out about
• 47:39
  the word and train and I was like, oh, great.
• 47:41
  I would love to hop on a call or whatever, talk things through.
• 47:44
  That's really exciting. If you could fill out my contact
• 47:46
  form first. That was three days ago.
• 47:48
  So whenever someone does not fill it out to me, that's either
• 47:51
  could be pricing, could just be second guessing.
• 47:55
  I and my Spidey senses are almost always right about this.
• 47:58
  If someone doesn't fill it out right away after we've talked or
• 48:00
  something, just something going on that it might not be like the
• 48:05
  top priority. And Bethany, I don't know, last
• 48:09
  year would have been like, oh man, I should reach back out and
• 48:11
  I maybe should. But right now I'm like, well, I
• 48:15
  only want to work with owners who are super excited, who don't
• 48:18
  have a separation anxiety dog like, so it's more particular.
• 48:23
  But I also think about the trainer in you where I'm like,
• 48:26
  well, what if in August I've trained 2 dogs and it's like, I
• 48:30
  don't know. I, I really do want to be known
• 48:34
  more known more for like the creative stuff.
• 48:38
  That is where my thing is, because I think that's such a
• 48:40
  strength and something like you. Are.
• 48:42
  OK, Yeah, well, I feel. Like you're doing exactly, but
• 48:47
  it's also OK to be like questioning if you're doing
• 48:50
  things that's like almost what's the word?
• 48:55
  And like not, I'm trying to think of the way that I want to
• 48:57
  word it. It's like you're almost honoring
• 48:59
  yourself through the process. But then you kind of question
• 49:03
  like not just you in general, but like, or just not just you,
• 49:06
  but in general people do this of like, we kind of tend to steer
• 49:10
  ourselves away from what we feel is like right for ourselves
• 49:14
  because other pressures, societal pressures, you know,
• 49:20
  financial pressures and stuff like that.
• 49:23
  But it doesn't seem like you're following the pressures, which
• 49:27
  is a great thing, I know. I think it's always like, it's
• 49:31
  like what we talked about and I should never say this out loud
• 49:32
  because I feel like it's just inviting it in, but like the
• 49:35
  other shoe is going to drop. Like something I'm too happy
• 49:37
  right now. Like something bad is going to
• 49:39
  happen and it's just going to bring us back to, you know, like
• 49:42
  something that we have to mentally prepare for, you know,
• 49:47
  like with family and stuff or Bobby's parents are getting
• 49:49
  older, my mom is older, like so stuff like that.
• 49:53
  So I think also I don't ever, cuz like I have big goals that
• 49:57
  I'm working towards and some are financially whatever motivated.
• 50:02
  I don't ever want to be chasing something like that and not also
• 50:05
  be super grateful for. What's right here, right now?
• 50:08
  Yeah. Yeah, I don't really.
• 50:10
  Get that? Could be like that, yeah, yeah.
• 50:12
  Awesome. Those are some good questions.
• 50:14
  OK. Only other thing that I wanted
• 50:17
  to mention is which I meant to mention this when you had
• 50:20
  actually asked, which is funny that you asked like how our
• 50:23
  animals were and stuff. This is completely different
• 50:26
  than what we've been talking about right now is I think one
• 50:29
  of the biggest things that people they probably think about
• 50:32
  but don't realize like the weight of it of dog ownership
• 50:34
  right now is overall cost of things.
• 50:37
  I know that sounds so like duh, but when we first got roadie and
• 50:41
  like vet bills versus what things are now is insane.
• 50:46
  And even like training costs, like of course, like they're
• 50:48
  going to go up and things like that.
• 50:49
  So this is just my PSA that either, I think that's one of
• 50:52
  the biggest things that I'll also like, you know, people end
• 50:55
  up getting a dog and they're like, oh, the they'll glamorize
• 50:59
  the thought of having a dog and then so many dogs are ending up
• 51:02
  in shelters or whatever. And it's like how much like,
• 51:05
  yeah, of course dogs are expensive, like, duh.
• 51:08
  But there are certain things like even just our appointment
• 51:10
  yesterday, we were literally there for Bernie night, probably
• 51:15
  saw the actual people for 10 minutes of our entire
• 51:18
  appointment. The rest of it was me and her
• 51:20
  sitting in the room waiting for them to come back with the you
• 51:24
  know results if they were going to have any.
• 51:26
  They did 2 pokes on her side otherwise didn't nothing.
• 51:31
  They didn't touch her any other way $416.00 just to walk in
• 51:37
  there. And it's like I know that and
• 51:39
  like that's, you know, that's fine, but like that's a lot of
• 51:44
  money for something that's just. Let's try to figure something
• 51:47
  out. So just a look into pet
• 51:50
  insurance if that's something that you're like we do have pet
• 51:52
  insurance for birdie. So, you know, that helps or be
• 51:57
  very, very prepared for not just the annual vet visits and
• 52:02
  training and stuff like that, like.
• 52:04
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, at the end of the day,
• 52:06
  it's like, holy moly, dogs are animals in general are so
• 52:10
  expensive. Oh yeah, like we took Theo last
• 52:14
  week to the vet to get his knee checked out.
• 52:15
  Yeah. And we are going to get surgery
• 52:18
  on his legs. So.
• 52:20
  But yeah, we just went in. I barely saw the doctor and he
• 52:23
  looked at his leg or whatever, $350.00 just to.
• 52:27
  Look at it well there. Was some they gave him like a
• 52:29
  pain Med, which is nice, but we know that it's going to be
• 52:32
  expensive to get his knee fixed. Yeah.
• 52:34
  Do they do? It there, do they have to send
• 52:36
  him? No.
• 52:36
  It's going to send him U University of Florida.
• 52:39
  I think we're going to do it through.
• 52:40
  That's where Bobby went. It's like 3 hours away, but they
• 52:44
  have like a student teaching hospital so it's actually a
• 52:47
  little less. But we have some friends who
• 52:49
  have used them and highly recommend them.
• 52:52
  Awesome. So that's going to be expensive,
• 52:53
  but that's one thing we were saying when we were sitting
• 52:56
  there with him in the room. I was like, man, this is the
• 52:59
  best way to think about not getting any extra dogs when
• 53:02
  you're at the vets office. Totally.
• 53:04
  Yeah, because we have 4. And the other day and after
• 53:07
  getting Johnny, I know how some people feel now or I always used
• 53:10
  to be like chasing the excitement of getting a new dog
• 53:13
  and their new personality and like whatever.
• 53:16
  And ever since Johnny, who I feel like is so perfect to me,
• 53:19
  he's like, you know, whatever, I don't want another dog because I
• 53:22
  feel like they won't be the same.
• 53:23
  They won't be as good or whatever.
• 53:25
  But when I was running with Louis the other day, I was
• 53:27
  thinking in my head, like Bobby has said this before, I'm like,
• 53:30
  Oh my God, we're going to need another German Shepherd to run
• 53:32
  with because obviously I've gone for this.
• 53:33
  I'm on a 15 minute run so far. I love running so much Now I
• 53:38
  want to become a hunter. Oh.
• 53:40
  My God. It was a great day out.
• 53:45
  I was like, we got to keep this going forever.
• 53:47
  I've ever run since. But you know so well, something
• 53:51
  else I was thinking about that, I almost texted you.
• 53:55
  We can do it for next time to come up with something that like
• 53:58
  really annoys you. I think you even mentioned that
• 54:00
  a long time ago. The list is endless, so.
• 54:03
  I have one that is kind of touchy, but like I got an e-mail
• 54:08
  and I need to respond back towards someone.
• 54:10
  I've done a virtual with a few of them and they're out in
• 54:14
  California and they're the topic in the e-mail was like they're
• 54:18
  reactive dog. They're in their 70s or 60s, I
• 54:21
  think pulled over the husband who was walking the dog.
• 54:24
  He's reactive and they brought the option of putting him down.
• 54:29
  And I immediately when I read that, I think I just get like, I
• 54:33
  don't know if it was triggered or just like holy, like what
• 54:36
  that is the option? Like I, so I think sometimes
• 54:42
  it's even like when I was thinking about with E collar
• 54:44
  training and I know so, so many people are highly against it.
• 54:49
  And it's like there's just so much that could be talked about
• 54:53
  this topic and it's way too broad.
• 54:55
  But a lot of people are so against a moment of discomfort
• 54:59
  from an E collar, but they will put out the option of putting a
• 55:03
  dog down. Like to me, I don't even
• 55:06
  understand that. I can't even even sort of like
• 55:10
  usually when people have different opinions, I try to
• 55:12
  take a step back and like, find a, like, try to understand where
• 55:17
  they could be coming from. Yeah.
• 55:18
  When you're talking to similar to a situation like this or like
• 55:22
  a dog in a shelter or something, it's like they would rather, you
• 55:27
  know, put the dog down then let a balance trainer help because
• 55:32
  you know, if they've had a trainer come in a purely
• 55:35
  positive or behaviorist and they're like, Oh no, they either
• 55:39
  just need to be like highly medicated or put the dog down.
• 55:42
  They would rather that and that's more humane to them than
• 55:46
  stopping a behavior of like jumping or arousal.
• 55:49
  It's I, I don't. Even know how to like and people
• 55:53
  yell. Abuse for the E collar it's.
• 55:57
  It's so annoying because I was starting to think about like one
• 56:02
  of my brain waves. Yes, hashtag brain waves, Yeah.
• 56:07
  Was about like the whole about like E collar training because I
• 56:11
  was getting so much shit on Facebook which I just have not
• 56:14
  posting anything over there now and I was like where does this
• 56:17
  like stem from? And then also with like dogs in
• 56:20
  shelters Like what is the part? I know other people are thinking
• 56:24
  about this but the post help after someone adopts a dog where
• 56:30
  it's very heavily for the most part food motivated.
• 56:35
  Purely positive anti E collar. Bring them.
• 56:38
  In make them part of your family immediately make them cozy,
• 56:42
  which I get that I can get them like make them feel, but like,
• 56:47
  we wouldn't be like immediately have them in your bed.
• 56:49
  I mean, you know, yeah. Like, I just feel like that
• 56:51
  piece is missing. And I, I think there's also so
• 56:55
  much work they would have to go into talking a shelter into
• 56:58
  being open to that, you know? Totally.
• 57:00
  And I know some can be 10, like some rescues can be a little bit
• 57:04
  more open to that. I know we're getting close to
• 57:06
  time, but quick story. Well, yeah, please.
• 57:09
  But I'd want to say it while it's fresh.
• 57:12
  And you made me think about it. So I got a call yesterday from
• 57:15
  someone. I could hear in their voice.
• 57:16
  They left a voicemail just being like, hi, Kate, like I got your
• 57:18
  information from blah, blah, blah.
• 57:20
  I just adopted a dog on Friday and I'm just trying to figure
• 57:23
  out like if he has like severe separation anxiety, like if
• 57:27
  there's anything you can do to help me.
• 57:29
  And I'm thinking like I'm hearing this guy's voice.
• 57:31
  I'm like this poor guy. Like he just got this dog on
• 57:34
  Friday. So I call him back and he's
• 57:37
  like, I, I told him right off the bat, I'm like, I'm, I'm
• 57:40
  probably not going to be telling you exactly what you want to
• 57:42
  hear. I'm like, I don't do any like
• 57:43
  private sessions. I'm like, you know, depending on
• 57:46
  what you're even considering, like I wouldn't have any
• 57:49
  availability for my board and training till blah, blah, blah.
• 57:51
  But I said, you know, I want to, you know, give you some things
• 57:55
  to think about. I said, I have my new dog guide.
• 57:57
  I do virtual coaching sessions. But I think I was the first
• 58:01
  person to say to him like, this is his first dog he's ever had.
• 58:06
  He like over and over and over again asked the shelter like, do
• 58:10
  you know if this dog has any sort of like separation anxiety
• 58:13
  or anything like that? Nope, Nope, Nope.
• 58:14
  Which again, how would they know?
• 58:15
  Like it's in a shelter. It's probably barking like all
• 58:18
  the other dogs. They wouldn't know that.
• 58:21
  And he brings home this dog and he's just like trying to RIP out
• 58:25
  of the crate. He's jumping at the door the
• 58:27
  second he's walking out, scratching, biting everything.
• 58:30
  He's like, I can't. He's like, I go to the gym, like
• 58:32
  I, I, I like to grocery shop. He's like, I like, you know, I
• 58:36
  go into an office for work. He's like, I don't think I can
• 58:39
  leave this dog. And I'm like, Oh no.
• 58:42
  And so I just basically told him I'm like, hey, like, obviously
• 58:46
  it takes time to like settle in and adjust and things like that.
• 58:49
  But also I said, I want to tell you like, don't feel like this
• 58:54
  is your like your only option is now giving up your life for this
• 59:00
  dog. I'm like, you're going to get a
• 59:01
  lot of opinions on things of what you should and shouldn't
• 59:03
  do. Like he already he's like, yeah,
• 59:05
  I brought it to daycare because they told me just bring him to
• 59:06
  daycare every day. And I'm like, what?
• 59:09
  Like so now you need to have a budget just to send this dog to
• 59:11
  daycare every day because they can't be alone.
• 59:13
  I'm like, I'm like, I'm just gonna tell you this from my
• 59:15
  personal experience, I'm like, this dog needs to learn how to
• 59:17
  be alone. And I said that's probably not
• 59:19
  gonna be a fun process for either of you to start.
• 59:21
  I said it's like the crate training will have to happen and
• 59:24
  it's probably gonna suck before it gets better.
• 59:26
  And he's like, I appreciate you like saying this stuff to me.
• 59:28
  I'm like, I am not gonna sugarcoat it, 'cause if this dog
• 59:30
  has true separation anxiety, I'm like, I wouldn't want that for
• 59:35
  anyone. And so like I kind of told him
• 59:38
  not that like I want him to immediately bring the dog back,
• 59:41
  but my brain goes to this is his first opportunity to own a dog.
• 59:45
  It's already becoming something that was like not at all what he
• 59:49
  wanted, Which I do think obviously there's some
• 59:52
  responsibility to that as well of, you know, going getting a
• 59:55
  dog, but there might be a better fit for this dog.
• 59:58
  I'm not saying go put this dog down or anything like that, but.
• 1:00:02
  He's like, I just already feel so, so much guilt if I were to
• 1:00:05
  bring the dog back, yeah. He was trying to do a good
• 1:00:07
  thing, yes. Yeah, no one.
• 1:00:09
  Ever shares this part? Except trainers.
• 1:00:11
  But like, yeah, it's not what someone thinks when they go and
• 1:00:14
  rescue a dog from the shelter. Yep.
• 1:00:16
  It's the wording We're like, yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah. And so then of course, he's
• 1:00:20
  like, you know, he's probably just had a really bad life.
• 1:00:22
  And I'm like, maybe, but maybe not.
• 1:00:25
  I was like, I was like, that's probably what they told you.
• 1:00:29
  And I'm like, he's probably also just totally out of sorts.
• 1:00:31
  Like he's used to being in a chaotic environment of barking
• 1:00:34
  or constantly being around other dogs.
• 1:00:36
  And the energy's probably been so heightened that like he's
• 1:00:39
  almost probably having like detox of being in a calm
• 1:00:42
  household and, you know, so. Without a lot of dogs, yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah, So it was just like kind of baffling to me of like some
• 1:00:50
  of the things that I can already tell he's probably being told of
• 1:00:53
  like, OK, well. Basically or like finding outlet
• 1:00:58
  or change. Your change your life for this
• 1:01:00
  dog. It's very dog.
• 1:01:02
  Based. Yes.
• 1:01:03
  And I said to him, and I was like, you know, obviously
• 1:01:05
  getting a dog, you have to embrace changes regardless, but
• 1:01:08
  I was like, I don't think that dog ownership should literally
• 1:01:11
  be a, you know, it's where you 100% give everything up for this
• 1:01:18
  dog at your own expense. Like to me, I'm like, that
• 1:01:21
  doesn't seem fun at all. Like I had a very, very
• 1:01:25
  challenging first dog and I still, there was, you know,
• 1:01:28
  things I had to adjust in my life, but it still was never a,
• 1:01:32
  well, I can't have people over because my dog doesn't like
• 1:01:35
  people. It's like, no, we work around
• 1:01:38
  how to make that successful for everyone because I'm not going
• 1:01:40
  to give up my life. Yeah, because of a dog that I
• 1:01:43
  choose to have. Well.
• 1:01:45
  That's wild that they the rescuer or shelter or whatever
• 1:01:48
  wouldn't even recommend steps further for crate training.
• 1:01:52
  It's like when my mom adopted her dog Harper, she had
• 1:01:57
  separation anxiety and she not like a like when I think of true
• 1:02:01
  separation anxiety, it's like trying to break out of the
• 1:02:02
  kennel and like grabbing the thing with her teeth and like
• 1:02:05
  whatever. But sometimes it could be more
• 1:02:07
  subtle of just barking, barking, getting themselves in a fit or
• 1:02:10
  whatever. And so I went over and I think,
• 1:02:16
  I think sometimes people think like a trainer is like a
• 1:02:18
  magician because they literally just put the dog in the kennel
• 1:02:21
  and like maybe tap the top of the kennel or something or, and
• 1:02:24
  just like open it. Let them try to come out, close
• 1:02:27
  the door or what? Just patience and not giving a
• 1:02:30
  time of day being like, it's OK, Sally, you're fine in there.
• 1:02:34
  Yeah. Well, and I think sometimes
• 1:02:36
  owners just don't, they're not, they don't understand how they
• 1:02:40
  see a dog. And if the dog is uncomfortable,
• 1:02:42
  that's like, well, let's avoid that.
• 1:02:44
  Like I don't want the dog to be uncomfortable, like don't worry
• 1:02:46
  about me. But that because it's not
• 1:02:47
  something that they see where we see over and over again how I
• 1:02:52
  think you said it in like a post of yours or maybe a story where
• 1:02:56
  it's like discomfort is not a bad thing.
• 1:02:59
  I don't know if you said that probably, but it's like it's OK
• 1:03:01
  for your dog to be uncomfortable, but it's just a
• 1:03:04
  means to an end. It doesn't mean that like
• 1:03:06
  they're going to be uncomfortable forever.
• 1:03:07
  But that's just part of the process where I don't know.
• 1:03:11
  Sometimes I just think about like shelters and the ones that
• 1:03:13
  we have close by where post training help that is not just
• 1:03:17
  food based. Like when I went to Petco couple
• 1:03:21
  days ago to get something and I see this lady with these two
• 1:03:26
  giant Rottweilers on a flat local collar going into a class
• 1:03:30
  and barking and lunging at another doodle who the owner had
• 1:03:34
  like 10 feet away. And I was like, Oh my God, what
• 1:03:36
  are they possibly going to teach them with food for reactivity
• 1:03:40
  and two. Dogs of that power being held by
• 1:03:43
  one person I know. It's just stuff like that.
• 1:03:46
  Where am I? We see that and we're like.
• 1:03:49
  Jesus. OK, well.
• 1:03:50
  We know whatever we're an owner might see it and think, well,
• 1:03:52
  it's just how it is. Like, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:03:55
  So I think that's just the more we share, the more we help
• 1:03:58
  owners and the more that kind of stuff spreads.
• 1:04:00
  Cuz I just think a lot of people don't know, yeah.
• 1:04:03
  And I think the thing about it too is talking about some of the
• 1:04:05
  stuff where it's not like just the rainbows and butterflies.
• 1:04:08
  It's like some people might hear it and just like whatever, you
• 1:04:12
  know, and that's fine. It can go in one ear and out the
• 1:04:14
  other. But the goal is truly like when
• 1:04:18
  we talk about we're dog trainers, like we really are
• 1:04:20
  caring so much about like the owner's well-being through the
• 1:04:23
  process as well. And I think that sometimes it
• 1:04:26
  can come off as like, you know, we are like, your dog can live a
• 1:04:30
  pretty simple life. And some people very much
• 1:04:33
  disagree with that of like, why are you not telling people to do
• 1:04:35
  more of this or do more of that? But it's like, if you give
• 1:04:39
  owners something that is sustainable and attainable for
• 1:04:42
  them to do with their dog, you're going to end up having a
• 1:04:45
  happier dog. Yeah.
• 1:04:46
  Like that, I believe. So like to my core, I believe
• 1:04:52
  that because people will come in like gung ho right off the bat
• 1:04:56
  of like I'm going to do all of these things.
• 1:04:58
  I want to get into this like sport with my dog.
• 1:04:59
  I want to do this. Those are all great things.
• 1:05:01
  Great. If you want to do that, that
• 1:05:04
  goes down, like people do not like keep that like high of
• 1:05:08
  highs when they, you know, leave the training or leave adopting,
• 1:05:13
  you know, their dog, it's going to end up being like, oh, well,
• 1:05:15
  life happens. And I can't really get into that
• 1:05:17
  class anymore. I can't go do that sport with my
• 1:05:19
  dog. I can't go do hikes every single
• 1:05:21
  weekend with my dog. But what I can do is train them
• 1:05:25
  so that we can go on really nice walks every day.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah. And to me, I'm like, that's a
• 1:05:29
  beautiful life with your dog. Yeah.
• 1:05:31
  Well. And I something I want to
• 1:05:33
  mention because I know I have mentioned a couple people that
• 1:05:37
  I've worked with virtually or in person and I've talked on here
• 1:05:40
  about a message I got from them or an e-mail.
• 1:05:43
  And I don't mean to say it in a way where I'm like judging them.
• 1:05:46
  It's more just being totally honest about how it feels to get
• 1:05:50
  certain messages or emails and also feeling a kind of
• 1:05:54
  responsibility for being someone that someone can talk to about
• 1:05:57
  this. But like with the owners with
• 1:05:59
  where the option in the e-mail was, maybe we should put him
• 1:06:02
  down. To me, my instinct is just why
• 1:06:05
  not try something else? Why not try to find him a home
• 1:06:08
  or and she's mentioned before about doesn't want to spend and
• 1:06:11
  she said it and not like I'm not going to spend any more money,
• 1:06:14
  but it's just like you said, it's expensive, especially when
• 1:06:16
  you're trying to figure things out and give your dog the best
• 1:06:20
  life and the best opportunities. And it's like, but there are
• 1:06:24
  different options. Like to me, it's just, and I
• 1:06:27
  don't hear that that often where someone's like, well, the next
• 1:06:30
  option is maybe putting the dog down, but it's just to shed
• 1:06:33
  light on. There are other things that you
• 1:06:35
  can do. It doesn't have to just be,
• 1:06:38
  well, that's the next thing. And I don't know if that is
• 1:06:40
  something people are told or whatever, but I don't know, just
• 1:06:43
  to kind of also talk about how I would never well, and I don't
• 1:06:48
  know, it's so easy to say that from the outside when I, I
• 1:06:51
  literally haven't had a dog where I feel like that would be
• 1:06:53
  an option or something like that.
• 1:06:55
  I I. Could probably talk on the other
• 1:06:57
  side of it is like, I do feel like certain owners, I'm not
• 1:07:00
  saying these are, I'm talking about like situations where the
• 1:07:03
  people have tried absolutely everything.
• 1:07:06
  I do think there are some dogs that people unfortunately like,
• 1:07:09
  I don't want to say hold on to for too long, but they are true
• 1:07:13
  liabilities in the wrong hands. And I even think about that,
• 1:07:16
  especially when Rhody was younger, like I was, I've always
• 1:07:19
  been so proactive with him. And, but like in a different
• 1:07:23
  home, he would have been a liability.
• 1:07:26
  And I do not feel like he would have been a safe dog for a
• 1:07:29
  family, for people that are just like, it's a dog being a dog,
• 1:07:33
  like. And so in that type of
• 1:07:35
  situation, like there are certain dogs that I do think
• 1:07:39
  it's the most, you know, humane option, but we're talking the
• 1:07:44
  extreme cases of like they have tried everything they have, you
• 1:07:48
  know, you know, made sure that it's in the home with the right
• 1:07:50
  fit and things like that. And then you can always talk
• 1:07:53
  about the, you know, depending on this dog, like some people
• 1:07:57
  also don't want the project dog. And, you know, if the reactivity
• 1:08:01
  is so bad to the point where someone can't like live a
• 1:08:04
  fulfilling life with this dog. And I don't know, you know, it's
• 1:08:07
  like those are the things that I kind of on the other side think
• 1:08:09
  about which. Yes.
• 1:08:11
  Is OK if like, you know, we disagree on that or something?
• 1:08:16
  Yeah. Totally.
• 1:08:17
  Well, I think there's just different.
• 1:08:20
  It's so versatile, all the different feelings and
• 1:08:25
  experiences and like cuz sometimes I think it's like
• 1:08:28
  always when you have these different things in mind where
• 1:08:30
  you think about like a certain thing like that makes you even
• 1:08:33
  more sensitive to something. Like when I this account I
• 1:08:36
  follow, they have a farm, they're in Georgia and one of
• 1:08:40
  their dogs was great with them but started showing signs of not
• 1:08:46
  being OK around the kids and they ended up putting the dog
• 1:08:50
  down. And my thought process was, and
• 1:08:53
  I don't know, maybe they did, but from the outside I was like,
• 1:08:55
  well, did you reach out to like another a trainer who maybe
• 1:08:58
  doesn't use just food or but their thing was, and again, this
• 1:09:03
  is speaking to what you said didn't seem like she would be
• 1:09:05
  safe with someone else, which I totally get.
• 1:09:08
  I just, I think sometimes I don't know, I'm judging from the
• 1:09:11
  outside like, well, did you try this other thing that maybe
• 1:09:14
  never thought of? That's where with E collar
• 1:09:17
  training, I just think it's so misunderstood for all the
• 1:09:20
  different reasons but. Oh yeah, I, I truly like when
• 1:09:23
  it's stuff like that too. And you know, obviously we don't
• 1:09:25
  know. But when there hasn't been like
• 1:09:28
  trying E car training or like certain things that we know,
• 1:09:32
  like safety stuff that can be put in place with still having a
• 1:09:34
  dog live a fulfilling life. Like, yeah, I don't think a dog
• 1:09:36
  should just live in their crate. It's like, what kind of life is
• 1:09:39
  that? But there will be some people
• 1:09:41
  I've heard where it's like they literally like, no, I'm just not
• 1:09:43
  gonna. I don't.
• 1:09:44
  Oh my gosh. I can't create a dog.
• 1:09:45
  And I'm like, yeah, but we can put a dog down.
• 1:09:48
  Exactly. That.
• 1:09:49
  IA 100% like agree with it's yes crazy somebody like.
• 1:09:53
  Nuances too. We should do a whole other
• 1:09:55
  episode on this I feel like. Oh my gosh.
• 1:09:57
  We could talk. About we'll either have.
• 1:09:58
  People come and go with the pitchforks or they're like,
• 1:10:00
  yeah, I totally agree. That's not the thing where the
• 1:10:04
  book I'm working on right now, it's E caller focused because
• 1:10:07
  when I went on just Amazon, I'm not like going everywhere, but I
• 1:10:10
  looked up reactivity help and it's all purely positive.
• 1:10:13
  And I was like, and so I'm kind of also already preparing for
• 1:10:17
  the pitchforks. And but I also don't want to not
• 1:10:20
  do something based on the fear of what some people might not
• 1:10:23
  like it. Like, yeah, I don't want to live
• 1:10:25
  my life that way either. So totally agree.
• 1:10:28
  So many things. Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 1:10:29
  We could do, as you said, a whole a whole thing on that, but
• 1:10:33
  in a couple of minutes we are having the people that painted
• 1:10:37
  like everything in our house come to give us a quote for
• 1:10:41
  painting our full garage so that we can get it ready for the
• 1:10:43
  garage gym. That's so exciting.
• 1:10:45
  Oh my gosh, I'm going over. I forgot that you have timed
• 1:10:48
  things. Oh, that's.
• 1:10:49
  OK. No, I'm good.
• 1:10:51
  Yep, it's 20 minutes. Yeah, OK.
• 1:10:53
  I can't wait to hear more about that.
• 1:10:54
  I think we're. Gonna do some sort of like dark
• 1:10:57
  color and all over make it Moody in there.
• 1:11:01
  Oh really? Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  Wow, that's. Surprising.
• 1:11:04
  Why I don't? Know a Moody gym?
• 1:11:07
  I like that like I love that like.
• 1:11:11
  Have you seen we don't want to do too too trendy, but like, I
• 1:11:15
  mean, who cares if it's trendy now and it's not in a couple of
• 1:11:17
  years? But like you've seen like this
• 1:11:23
  kind of vibe. Hold on, hold on, is that.
• 1:11:26
  Like a olive green hold. On it hasn't done it yet.
• 1:11:30
  Oh, black like. People do.
• 1:11:32
  That's not Yeah, it's not black, but it's like a chocolate
• 1:11:35
  espresso. But yeah, like, hold on.
• 1:11:41
  This is like me showing you videos on a SO.
• 1:11:45
  Great, but we're. Not local, but like see how like
• 1:11:47
  behind her it's like a dark I. Do like that cuz you could open
• 1:11:52
  the garage door or like put light yeah yeah.
• 1:11:54
  And then we'll have a bright lights up top and stuff.
• 1:11:57
  So to be determined to be. Continued We'll yeah next time
• 1:12:02
  about it cuz it'll be painted by next time no.
• 1:12:04
  We're just having them come and do a quote.
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  I mean, we probably will have it painted somewhat soon, but we
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  need to get like everything out of there and clean everything
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  before we can have them come in and paint it.
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  Oh yeah, that. Just makes so much sense to have
• 1:12:15
  a home gym for y'all I know. Just love working out, yeah?
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  And it's like, sometimes we'll literally be like, Oh my gosh,
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  OK, like let's run to plan it quick while we're, you know, for
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  our lunch break or whatever. But I'm like, if I can come out
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  here, put a place bed out with a dog and we'll obviously still go
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  to stuff and A, JS and stuff for like our two days a week, just
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  A, because we like socializing and B, it's just fun to work out
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  with other people. But yeah, it makes so much sense
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  for us. That's so exciting.
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  Yay. OK, well enjoy the rest of your
• 1:12:49
  day. I love your bright colors.
• 1:12:51
  Is it getting warm there? Yeah, it's still nice enough to
• 1:12:55
  like, walk in the afternoon because that's when it gets like
• 1:12:58
  we had 6071 and sunny. Oh wow.
• 1:13:01
  We're supposed to get which I don't know if I believe it, but
• 1:13:04
  sometimes it just is really Gray in the morning.
• 1:13:06
  But it's supposed to be like 71 and sunny today.
• 1:13:08
  But. The same weather is me right
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  now. Well, that's your morning.
• 1:13:12
  That might be like our late afternoon, that is.
• 1:13:14
  Wild didn't even see let. Me see what it is right now.
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  That's why, like, Wisconsin is so bizarre, because, like, it's
• 1:13:21
  Gray and 42 right now, that is. The most bizarre thing ever, but
• 1:13:25
  it. Says by what is up with me being
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  on my phone like. Apparently.
• 1:13:32
  I want to treat things like. As if we're sitting and talking
• 1:13:34
  with each other. So so like. 4:00 PM.
• 1:13:36
  It's supposed to be 69. Oh, it was so weird.
• 1:13:40
  Yeah, it's gonna get up to 80 today.
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  But yours will actually probably happen.
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  What, by like noon? Yeah, yeah.
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  No, ours is like 5:00 PM. Head outside at 69.
• 1:13:52
  Well next time I see you I'm so excited I'm getting because I
• 1:13:53
  have grades in my hair this is and then she tints my eyebrows.
• 1:13:57
  So after I get my hair done and stuff, it's always.
• 1:14:00
  Nice. OK.
• 1:14:02
  You do it pretty frequently because you was the last time
• 1:14:04
  you got it done when we were there.
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  Yeah, OK, cool. It's because of my Grays in my
• 1:14:08
  hair. Like Bobby was like, didn't you
• 1:14:10
  just go there? And I was like, yeah, but
• 1:14:11
  because I have Grays in my hair, I just, I'm not ready to, like,
• 1:14:14
  grow them out. Like I feel like.
• 1:14:15
  You'd look awesome, but I totally get not being ready for
• 1:14:18
  it I. I I respect people who do that.
• 1:14:20
  I can't. I'm getting my hair done as
• 1:14:23
  well, but not until next week Tuesday.
• 1:14:27
  So oh, that's something that we'll have to talk about.
• 1:14:30
  We can obviously talk about it offline, but for recording next
• 1:14:33
  week we might have to do a day early if possible, just because
• 1:14:37
  Wednesday I'm leaving. Or we could do an early one
• 1:14:40
  before I leave. But I'm heading to visit Chris
• 1:14:45
  Eloise, my parents, for my belated birthday celebration and
• 1:14:49
  then the next day I head to Savannah, OH.
• 1:14:51
  Yes, yeah, which? We never talked about, but it's
• 1:14:53
  more literally only there for 2 1/2 days.
• 1:14:55
  So we'll do a, we'll do a different girls trip, yes.
• 1:14:59
  OK. All right.
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  I will talk to you soon. Have a great rest of your day.
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  OK, bye.