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What Should He Do? Play In World Cup Or Attend Birth Of His First Child · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, June twenty second, twenty twenty six, right,
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Speaker 1: So why in twenty twenty six would anybody be giving
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Speaker 1: a man a hard time because he wants to take
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Speaker 1: off work to be there for the birth of his child.
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Speaker 1: The problem here in the controversy is that his workplace
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Speaker 1: happens to be the World Cup right now. And with that,
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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. I guess
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Speaker 1: it's a controversy, should it be?
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Speaker 2: I think it's shocking that a comment was made.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people made some comments, but a very
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Speaker 3: some would argue disrespectful comment was made by a female
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Speaker 3: World Cup reporter. She's French and she took issue with
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Speaker 3: a Belgian player for saying, hey, if Belgium gets so
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Speaker 3: far into the World Cup, I may have to go
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Speaker 3: home because my wife is due in July and it's
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Speaker 3: my first child and I want to be there at
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Speaker 3: the birth.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we stop their robes and I guess you.
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Speaker 1: People are very passionate about this. Someone would say, hey,
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Speaker 1: you committed to the team. This is maybe even once
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Speaker 1: in a lifetime for something. You're representing your country. The
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Speaker 1: baby will be there later, and people are passionate there.
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Speaker 1: But there's the other side to it. Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: He wants to be there for the birth of his
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Speaker 1: child and of the discussion.
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Speaker 3: Correct, And so those are the two sides, and they
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Speaker 3: are very passionate, very passionate. This French presenter, her name
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Speaker 3: is Franse Perol. She was actually suspended because of those comments,
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Speaker 3: because of the uproar She made them on Friday during
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Speaker 3: her broadcast and it was a heated exchange there on set,
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Speaker 3: and we do have the translation. She said it in French, obviously,
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Speaker 3: but it was pretty interesting to see the reaction, not
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Speaker 3: only from her own broadcasting company, who eventually distanced themselves
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Speaker 3: from her, disavowed her comments, apologized to the public who
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Speaker 3: was offended, apologized to the player she was chastising, and
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Speaker 3: she too apologized. So there's been a lot of apologies,
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Speaker 3: but there have been a lot of strong feelings about
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Speaker 3: why in the world she had the right to say
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Speaker 3: what she said in the first place.
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Speaker 1: Well, she right, she was doing commentary, and some would
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Speaker 1: even argue maybe she was being a little She knew
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Speaker 1: what she was doing, poking us all, starting something a
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Speaker 1: little controversial, but she gave an opinion. Now her opinion
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Speaker 1: is one thing, Robes, but she was damn near disrespectful
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Speaker 1: to men, women, families, anybody having a baby. She went
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Speaker 1: after everybody in a way that kind of put everybody down.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, and so it's not that she had
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Speaker 3: an opinion, it's it's how she said it, and just
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Speaker 3: it was without any empathy, empathy, without any compassion. And
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Speaker 3: I looked her up and it says she's a mom
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Speaker 3: of two sons.
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Speaker 2: So I was a little surprised because I would have.
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Speaker 3: Thoughts when you hear the comments, if you haven't heard
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Speaker 3: them already, that this would only have.
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Speaker 2: Been something a woman could say.
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Speaker 3: Who hasn't had a child, who hasn't been in labor,
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Speaker 3: who hasn't given birth.
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Speaker 2: No, it turns out she's a mom.
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Speaker 1: But does it, as you've heard the comments and you're
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Speaker 1: about to read here, does the flip side of that
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Speaker 1: work too, That maybe only a mom and somebody who's
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Speaker 1: been through child or could speak about it this way.
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Speaker 3: Well, that is a good point, she felt, it seems,
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Speaker 3: especially when you. I couldn't obviously hear what she was
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Speaker 3: saying as she was saying it, because I don't know French,
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Speaker 3: but she was saying it very confidently and very passionately.
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Speaker 2: So, yes, I see what you're saying.
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Speaker 3: She probably only felt comfortable doing that because she had
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Speaker 3: already she felt like she had streecret. She is a mom,
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Speaker 3: she's a woman. She can say these things. A man
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Speaker 3: certainly could not have said that. A man would have
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Speaker 3: been fired on this spot.
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Speaker 2: Possibly if he had said that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, possibly, So she probably felt like she had the
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Speaker 3: right to say it because she's been.
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Speaker 2: There, done That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: But yes, a man could never say what she said.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and to continue, let's go ahead and get her
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Speaker 3: comments out. Look, and there are a lot of different translations,
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Speaker 3: but I did try to find the most consistent way
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Speaker 3: in English.
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Speaker 2: That she said what she said.
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Speaker 3: So she described childbirth as a quote disgusting moment excuse me,
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Speaker 3: where a dad is useless. You have to realize that
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Speaker 3: it's truly a privilege to participate in a World Cup.
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Speaker 3: It's an incredible joy. There are hundreds of footballers who
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Speaker 3: would kill to be in your place. It might never
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Speaker 3: happen again in your life. It is truly a special moment,
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Speaker 3: a childhood dream come true. And you're gonna leave all
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Speaker 3: that to be present for the birth of your child.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The father serves no purpose. He is an extra.
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Speaker 3: He just holds your hand and takes a Yo, you're
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Speaker 3: gonna take a ten hour flight, exhaust yourself, go through
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Speaker 3: the ringer emotionally. How can you return to play after that?
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Speaker 3: The baby will always be there. Then, she said, some
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Speaker 3: people may have gone into debt just to get to
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Speaker 3: the World Cup, maybe sacrificed everything to be there, And
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Speaker 3: you're leaving to cut an umbilical cord.
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Speaker 1: Woo, she went too far. She can't express opinion, and
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Speaker 1: some will have the opinion that. Wow. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's the right move for him to leave for these
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Speaker 1: reasons she got. It almost sounded like if a stand
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Speaker 1: up comic had said this, we wouldn't think anything of it,
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Speaker 1: because that is what they do, she was saying. She
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Speaker 1: seemed like she might have been cracking Joe. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if she actually means the stuff she's saying, but
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Speaker 1: it's it's incredibly she said some incredibly offensive stuff.
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Speaker 2: Oh to men, to dad, it's like you're you're not needed.
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Speaker 1: You're no purpose. Says no purpose for you being there. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: any that's just not true. We don't have to defac
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Speaker 1: I we shouldn't argue about that.
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Speaker 3: Is she belittled the experience of a father in a
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Speaker 3: delivery room, and not only what it means to him
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Speaker 3: as a father, but what it means to his wife
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Speaker 3: to have him by her side. And yes, he isn't
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Speaker 3: just holding her hand and cutting the umbilical cord. He
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Speaker 3: is there as her support system. And witnessing your child
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Speaker 3: being born is I think an incredible privilege that shouldn't
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Speaker 3: just be cast aside because the baby will always be there.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, you don't know what's going to
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Speaker 3: happen in that delivery room. I had a very scary delivery.
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Speaker 3: It's not just a given that it's going to go smoothly.
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't need to be there for a number
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Speaker 3: of reasons to help his wife make decisions. Sometimes you
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Speaker 3: get faced with really tough last minute life or death
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Speaker 3: situations where you need your husband there, You need the
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Speaker 3: father of that baby there, like there are a lot
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Speaker 3: of reasons why men should and women i'm sure want
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Speaker 3: their husband's there. And it's beyond just what she flippantly
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Speaker 3: described their experience at flippant.
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Speaker 1: Is the right word, And look, she's disrespectful or putting
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Speaker 1: down men, but also dismissive of families. A family unit
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Speaker 1: is relationships, what hell marriage is? I mean, she's dismissive
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Speaker 1: of everything in what she said, and maybe she didn't
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Speaker 1: really mean, but she has some legitimate points that I'm
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Speaker 1: willing to listen to, and that's okay for people to
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Speaker 1: disagree with what he did roads a decent way.
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Speaker 2: Another way to go.
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Speaker 1: About this she could have said, I hate he's in
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Speaker 1: this position that he might have to make a decision
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Speaker 1: like that, because I know how much both of these
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Speaker 1: things must mean to him. I'd hate to be in
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Speaker 1: his position.
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Speaker 2: That's it, exactly, exactly.
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Speaker 3: And it's so interesting because even her apology on X
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Speaker 3: over the weekend, so she eventually apologized the following day,
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Speaker 3: But have you seen it?
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Speaker 2: It's she says.
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Speaker 3: In light of the very numerous reactions following my comments
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Speaker 3: regarding Belgian footballer Jeremy Doku, I wish to.
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Speaker 2: Provide a few clarifications.
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Speaker 3: In it, I expressed a personal opinion within the framework
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Speaker 3: of a debate. In it, I was expressing Sorry. Yes,
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Speaker 3: I was expressing a personal opinion within the context of
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Speaker 3: a contentious exchange. These remarks commit only me and in
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Speaker 3: no way reflect a collective position. I understand that they
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Speaker 3: may have shocked, hurt, or wounded some of you, and
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Speaker 3: I am sorry for that. My intention has never been
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Speaker 3: to minimize the place or role of fathers with their
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Speaker 3: partner and their child.
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Speaker 2: If that wasn't her intention, I don't know why she chose.
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Speaker 3: The word she did, because that is exactly what she did.
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Speaker 1: She messed up in a moment and she said something
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Speaker 1: she shouldn't have said. Then she probably knows that now robes,
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Speaker 1: but I mean, it is a part of a debate.
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Speaker 1: It's just I hate for folks to be You can
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Speaker 1: have an opinion about things, right, an opinion about what
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Speaker 1: somebody does that doesn't lead to a judgment of who
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Speaker 1: they are, right, And she just went too far there
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Speaker 1: with this kid agreed and old he's take.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how old he is, but I know
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Speaker 3: she is in her mid forties, so obviously he's younger
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Speaker 3: than that. But I also thought it was interesting because
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Speaker 3: before she made those comments, one of Doku's former youth
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Speaker 3: coaches said something similar, and I wonder if she saw
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Speaker 3: it and read it, and it kind of is very close.
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Speaker 3: If it sparked something in her, and she thought, you
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Speaker 3: know what, I agree, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
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Speaker 3: with that line of thinking. So his own youth coach
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Speaker 3: when when the announcement was made that he may leave
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Speaker 3: if the birth coincides with a game, and his own
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Speaker 3: coach said, when you go to the World Cup, it's
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Speaker 3: a choice. It might sound a bit harsh, but if
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Speaker 3: you're there, it's because you have chosen to play. The
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Speaker 3: baby will still be there afterwards that she said something
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Speaker 3: very similar in her remarks, the.
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Speaker 1: Baby will be there. And to be honest, ro this
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Speaker 1: debate pops up every now and again in professional sports,
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Speaker 1: has happened here in the US plenty, but that line
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Speaker 1: seems to be consistent actually, or the suggestion of the
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Speaker 1: idea that why miss this important playoff game or this championship?
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Speaker 1: The baby ain't going nowhere, Like that's the like being
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Speaker 1: there for the moment is like, what's the big deal?
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Speaker 1: And maybe I don't know it's the idea or just
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Speaker 1: how we view men and women, mothers and fathers as
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Speaker 1: what they provide in the family and what we're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be sensitive about. A guy isn't supposed to be
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Speaker 1: sensitive about or sentimental about things like that, he's got
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Speaker 1: a game, it's all right. He was on the grid,
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Speaker 1: he was at Super Bowl. Couldn't be there for that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, And she's playing into that foolishness.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 3: And look, it's so interesting because you asked me, you said, wa, wait,
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Speaker 3: have you even seen anywhere specifically where.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me where Doku?
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Speaker 3: Jeremy Dokou actually said for sure that he was going
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Speaker 3: to leave, and I said, actually no, he left it
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Speaker 3: open ended. He was just suggesting he was at a
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Speaker 3: press conference, and he specifically said, it depends on when
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Speaker 3: it happens. But it's my first child, so I would
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Speaker 3: definitely want to be there. If you ask me what
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Speaker 3: I want, my answer is that nobody wants to miss
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Speaker 3: the birth of their first child. But I also know
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Speaker 3: that football involves many other considerations. I know that federation
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Speaker 3: supports its players and understands their situations.
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Speaker 2: We'll see what we can do.
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Speaker 3: So he wasn't saying no matter what, I'm not going
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Speaker 3: to play, but he did want to put people on notice,
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Speaker 3: I might miss a game if my child is born
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Speaker 3: and I have to choose.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure his team he's talked this out with
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Speaker 1: his team. They know exactly what he's going to do.
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Speaker 1: They know, they know his partner, know they're excited about
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Speaker 1: the baby themselves. They're all planning to step up, maybe
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Speaker 1: play a little harder if they have to, if their
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Speaker 1: boy has the miss a game.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly so, which is how it should be, I agreed.
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Speaker 3: And so it's really been interesting to read some of
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Speaker 3: the very strong reaction to her comments into the situation
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Speaker 3: in general. So when we come back, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: read you some of my favorite comments that I think
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Speaker 3: they made really really good points and also let you
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Speaker 3: all know.
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Speaker 2: Guess what, there were.
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Speaker 3: Two other players at this very World Cup who have
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Speaker 3: been in the exact same situation. Welcome back everyone to
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Speaker 3: this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about
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Speaker 3: a French reporter who has been suspended from covering the
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Speaker 3: World Cup after she made comments about a Belgium player
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Speaker 3: and a Manchester City star, Jerem Doku, who suggested that
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Speaker 3: if his child, if his wife goes into labor with
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Speaker 3: his first child while Belgium is still playing, he may
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Speaker 3: miss a game, fly back to England to be there
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Speaker 3: and to be present for the birth of his first child.
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Speaker 3: She made some comments basically that completely minimize the role
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Speaker 3: of a father in a delivery room and suggested that
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Speaker 3: he should make a different choice, and absolutely said, point blank,
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Speaker 3: the father serves no purpose. He is an extra ending
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Speaker 3: with the baby will always be there.
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Speaker 1: You know, again, if a comedian said that on stage,
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Speaker 1: I laugh loud. I would, I would be funny. That's
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Speaker 1: not how she meant.
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Speaker 3: No, she did not, And the reaction was pretty brutal,
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Speaker 3: especially what we know X is a fairly brutal place.
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Speaker 3: But I thought some people made some points. I heard
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Speaker 3: what you said. Some people very much echoed your reaction
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Speaker 3: to this. I thought this was one of my favorites.
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Speaker 3: You didn't just deliver a personal opinion denigrated a choice.
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Speaker 2: And that's where it differs.
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Speaker 3: Your tone, deliberately aggressive aligns with televisual habits that backfire
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Speaker 3: on those who use them. This time it's you.
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Speaker 1: That is exactly right. Yes, that is the point wheregues.
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Speaker 1: You can have a debate about it. I wish he
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Speaker 1: wouldn't do that, or I think he should do this,
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Speaker 1: But you delve into making a judgment about a person
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Speaker 1: based on a decision thing, right.
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Speaker 3: That's not okay, that's not okay, And someone asked, yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 3: took issue with her apology when she said, my intention
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Speaker 3: was never to minimize the place or role of a father.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so someone wrote.
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Speaker 3: Yet, that's exactly what you did, and it saddens me
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Speaker 3: because I usually love your naturalness on screen.
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Speaker 2: So this is a fan of hers.
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Speaker 3: The birth of his child is worth all the soccer
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Speaker 3: matches in the world. There's no debate to be had
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Speaker 3: about that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I buy that. But if someone also said, it's like,
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Speaker 1: should we also criticize him with that? Should they be
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Speaker 1: strong criticism if he decides, if he says, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to miss the birth because we're in the
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Speaker 1: is he going to get criticism for that?
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Speaker 2: He would?
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Speaker 1: I mean, so what's a guy to do? Just and
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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be an impossible position. This isn't a big deal.
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Speaker 1: I really don't find this to be a big deal.
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Speaker 1: A dad wants to be there for the birth of
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Speaker 1: his child. Okay, yeah, well, there's nothing else. What is
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Speaker 1: he busy doing. Whatever he's busy doing, there's nothing more
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Speaker 1: important than that. If you can, you can make the
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Speaker 1: argument that the World Cup is more important than the
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Speaker 1: birth of his first child.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 3: And it's so funny you have been saying some things
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Speaker 3: that people have echoed exactly. There was an editorial that
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Speaker 3: was published this week and I'm going to read it
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Speaker 3: for you because it literally is what you just said.
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Speaker 3: If Jeremy Doku has to rush off to the maternity
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Speaker 3: ward in the middle of the World Cup, there are
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Speaker 3: only two things to say to him. Congratulations and have
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Speaker 3: a safe flight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right period. Throw in will win this one for you.
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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly you.
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Speaker 1: Said, Bro. This happened to Anthony Edwards in twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four of the Minnesota Timberwolves. He literally left at halftime
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Speaker 1: of a game to be there for the birth of
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Speaker 1: his child.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, he left at halftime as a wife,
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Speaker 2: as a mother.
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Speaker 3: I think anyone out there would say, that's a good man,
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Speaker 3: that's a good man.
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Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't Game seven of the Finals. Would that
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Speaker 1: make a difference.
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Speaker 2: Look, I just think it's a personal decision. That's it,
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Speaker 2: and that's it.
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Speaker 3: And look, if your team wants to say something, if
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Speaker 3: your coach wants to say something, if the owners of
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Speaker 3: your team wants to say something, then that's who should
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Speaker 3: be saying something. But I don't think a TV presenter
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Speaker 3: should be saying something.
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Speaker 1: Express an opinion, fine, not a judgment of the guy.
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Speaker 1: That's all we're not taking away. And again she has
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Speaker 1: a legitimate logic in her opinions, but ro she put
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Speaker 1: the guy down, She put all dads down, Like, how
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Speaker 1: dare you? It's a judgment of him. He's a twenty
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Speaker 1: four year old twenty four okay, black kids from Belgium.
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Speaker 2: And he and you know what, I like what you said.
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Speaker 3: She went beyond just pointing the finger at him and
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Speaker 3: judging him.
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Speaker 2: She judged all dad, oh, y'all, everybody. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: In fact, I was going to read this one, well,
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Speaker 3: that's still a hell of a load of vomited shit
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Speaker 3: in just a few seconds. Lack of empathy, humanity, and
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Speaker 3: that's just for starters. Keep talking about sports, but for
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Speaker 3: pity's sake, avoid overthinking the important stuff or even the unimportant,
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Speaker 3: because I get the feeling you're a bit limited on
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Speaker 3: that front. I mean, people went personal towards her, but
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Speaker 3: I look, people called her on it a disgusting moment
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Speaker 3: where the man is utterly.
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Speaker 2: Useless, But hold up, you didn't want to downplay the
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Speaker 2: father's role. LMAO. I mean, she.
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Speaker 3: Can't say what she said and then say I would
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Speaker 3: never intended on diminishing a man's role. That of course
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Speaker 3: she did. That's exactly what she did. That's exactly what
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Speaker 3: she said. So is she changing her opinion? Does she
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Speaker 3: think differently now that she's gotten called out?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: But listen, there were two other players by this World
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Speaker 3: Cup in twenty twenty six. So Kucho Hernandez of Colombia.
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Speaker 3: His second son was born on June first. While he
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Speaker 3: was representing Colombia. He shared that he had not been
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Speaker 3: able to yet personally meet his newborn, but he dedicated
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Speaker 3: his performance to his growing family. So he he hasn't
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Speaker 3: met his son yet. He missed the birth, and he's like, hey,
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Speaker 3: I'm dedicating my playing to you.
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Speaker 2: It was the second son. I don't know. Does that help?
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Speaker 2: Does that make it any better?
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Speaker 3: The son knows that his father dedicated his matches to him.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, babe, if he's okay with it,
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Speaker 1: his team is okay with it, his family's okay with it.
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Speaker 1: The woman who was giving birth is okay with it.
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Speaker 1: I exactly got nothing to say.
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Speaker 2: Exactly Now, how about this? This one was interesting to me.
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Speaker 3: So the other player who had a child born during
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Speaker 3: this World Cup and he missed it. South Korea's goalkeeper,
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Speaker 3: Kim Song Yo. You're the goalkeeper, that's kind of an
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Speaker 3: important job.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he missed what the birth.
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Speaker 2: Didn't Oh, he missed the birth.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So he was in Mexico when his first child was
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Speaker 3: born last week, and he did put this at well.
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Speaker 2: He said this at a press conference because everyone knew.
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Speaker 3: He said, I deeply regret not being able to be
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Speaker 3: with my wife during the delivery. I want to bring
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Speaker 3: a good result home from here. I told her while
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Speaker 3: she was still in the womb not to look like me.
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Speaker 3: Apparently she listened. I think it's a real blessing that
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Speaker 3: her face is perfect and a beautiful mix of my
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Speaker 3: features and my wife.
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Speaker 2: So he made a little joke, softened the blow.
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Speaker 3: But look, they had put out a bunch of pictures
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Speaker 3: of him kissing the belly before he in his soccer
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Speaker 3: thing before he left.
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Speaker 2: Clearly his wife was okay with it, yes, and so
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Speaker 2: he missed the birth, and.
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Speaker 1: So she's okay with it. What am I supposed to say?
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Speaker 2: Exactly right?
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Speaker 1: And what would you do? What would you want me
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Speaker 1: to do? Does it matter what game it is? If
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Speaker 1: it's just in the middle of the season game or
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Speaker 1: if it's in Game six of the Eastern Conference Finals,
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, if it's a super Bowl? Does it matter
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Speaker 1: if it's the playoffs?
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Speaker 2: Is it? Yeah? It might matter. And I do think
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Speaker 2: it also would matter what your role.
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Speaker 3: Was with the team, if you were completely going to
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Speaker 3: be letting the team down by missing a game and
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Speaker 3: potentially ending a chance at a victory or at least
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Speaker 3: a never before bracket or whatever your entire country can
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Speaker 3: get into, and it's hinging. It's like you're an integral
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Speaker 3: part to it. Look, I think any woman who loved
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Speaker 3: her husband would obviously take that into consideration.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's true. And what if I'm the
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Speaker 1: backup kicker.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a different story.
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Speaker 1: Okay, idea. If I'm the starting wide out, that's different.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
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Speaker 1: Receiver, Oh speaking, how about this for a woman Van
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Speaker 1: Jefferson is his name, twenty twenty two, who's playing for
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Speaker 1: the Rams, wife pregnant. He's playing at the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: they end up winning. He doesn't know that while he's
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Speaker 1: playing that game, his wife in the stadium goes into labor,
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Speaker 1: goes to the hospital. Wow, She insists they not tell
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Speaker 1: him and let him play that game. Focused.
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Speaker 2: She knew him, She knew that crazy, she knew what
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Speaker 2: he was supposed to do.
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Speaker 3: And look, my only concern would be if I made
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Speaker 3: that choice and you're that you'd be mad that you'd
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Speaker 3: be mad that I didn't tell you that, you'd be
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Speaker 3: mad that you didn't.
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Speaker 2: Get to choose.
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Speaker 1: Why didn't you pull me out of the super Bowl
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Speaker 1: that we ended up winning.
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Speaker 2: Nah?
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Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, that's exactly she's a real one. That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: That's a fun story too.
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Speaker 3: I actually think you tell your kid, Hey, yes, your
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Speaker 3: dad couldn't be at the berth at your birth. But
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Speaker 3: here's why. That's kind of a cool story. And look,
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Speaker 3: they have the pictures of these two men facetiming with
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Speaker 3: their wives. I mean they were there looking at the
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Speaker 3: birth through a screen. It's not the same, but it
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Speaker 3: is a cool story to tell your kid. I would
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Speaker 3: have no problem with it. But you know what, maybe
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Speaker 3: his wife is fine with it too. Maybe he just
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Speaker 3: really wants to be there. Maybe it's not his wife
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Speaker 3: at all. It didn't sound like it was.
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Speaker 1: They better win that game though. Can you imagine missing
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Speaker 1: the birth and losing?
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Speaker 2: That would not be ideal.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, just an interesting story things you don't think about.
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Speaker 2: But yes, World.
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Speaker 3: Cup soccer players are people too, and you know, like
22:28
Speaker 3: soon to be new dads, and there's all sorts of
22:30
Speaker 3: life events that are going on. There's a lot of
22:32
Speaker 3: sacrifice that happens to get to this level and people
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Speaker 3: make different choices. Some people don't like those choices, and
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Speaker 3: then they get suspected and with that everyone, we appreciate
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Speaker 3: you listening to us. I'm Aye Robock alongside TJ.
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