Latest / Citipointe Church Caboolture / From Believers To Followers | Ps Melanie Politanski
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- 0:02Hey, welcome to the City Point Church podcast.
- 0:04Thanks for joining us. Every day is an opportunity to
- 0:07take hold of. So we hope this message inspires
- 0:10you and build your faith that it helps you have more of a God
- 0:13perspective for your day. Enjoy.
- 0:18Graham and I are. Very, very excited.
- 0:21And at the same time, to be perfectly honest, for the first
- 0:24time in a long time, I'm being really vulnerable with you.
- 0:27I am. I'm nervous about bringing this
- 0:31word. This word carries weight.
- 0:34I know it carries weight for you and I and it's going to carry
- 0:38weight for future generations. And so it.
- 0:41Can't remain limited. To 1 Preach.
- 0:44It's going to be something that we unpack over the next month
- 0:48and it will culminate when Pastor Sharon comes on August
- 0:531st and August. It's not the first that's the we
- 0:56get. I get her.
- 0:57She flies in on the 1st I get her.
- 0:58On the first you. Get her on the 3rd.
- 1:01All right on the. 3rd. To.
- 1:04Bring us as a church or. Begin to lead us in a specific.
- 1:10Way that we. As the church are going to step
- 1:12into for the first time in many years and so the the.
- 1:17Title of this theme that. We're going to unpack over the
- 1:20next couple of weeks. Is called from.
- 1:22Believers to followers from believers to followers.
- 1:28And so I would like to. Open.
- 1:30This theme with something a little bit.
- 1:32Unusual. I'd like to.
- 1:34Open this theme with an apology that might sound really unusual.
- 1:40Who in the room? Has followed Jesus.
- 1:43For more than 45 years, yeah. So could just a little higher.
- 1:50So we can see 123-4567 8 about let's say 10 to 15 people,
- 2:01right? I can tell you.
- 2:06That what? We're going to lead in this next
- 2:09month. Us as a church.
- 2:10Into and. See it in your spirits.
- 2:14Is something. That we.
- 2:16As the church. Have not done very well since
- 2:20that time. There is a specific generation
- 2:25of people who, when they came to know Jesus, had the gift.
- 2:31And the blessing? To have their lives transformed
- 2:36or their lives undone by all that God had done.
- 2:40For them and. And then move.
- 2:43From that moment. To have their lives walked with
- 2:48somebody through the transformation that
- 2:52discipleship. Brings, I know.
- 2:58Because I am a child of. Somebody who got discipled.
- 3:04When my. Mum and Dad radically came to.
- 3:07Jesus in the 80s. The church in that era was
- 3:13heavily led by discipleship. In that time, the heartbeat of
- 3:20the church was to go into all the world.
- 3:24So it was not an unusual thing that churches had giant.
- 3:28Maps of the world. In their foyers with little
- 3:33pins. In them I remember the pins.
- 3:36And I I was because I was a church.
- 3:38Kid John was there with me. We.
- 3:39Were doing it together. Misbehaving up there.
- 3:42Moving the pins. Tell me you didn't see.
- 3:50Who else did a? Moving of the pins.
- 3:53Like placing Bolivia in, you know, England.
- 3:57So fun. Because they also had.
- 3:59String attached to them. Everywhere that we were going to
- 4:02reach with the gospel of Jesus Christ had pins with string.
- 4:06And I love to make shapes with the string.
- 4:11You knew a lot of. Kids were doing it in the church
- 4:13because there were so many extra pin holes in the map.
- 4:17But the heartbeat of the church in that era was to go into all
- 4:21the world and not live in the vicinity of other people in that
- 4:26nation, but to share the gospel of Jesus Christ and see people
- 4:32come into a knowledge of who he was.
- 4:35But that was part of what that. Era was about the.
- 4:40Other part of it was which was the pretty much the the
- 4:44culmination of everything the church did was about taking that
- 4:50person who had accepted Jesus with their with their life and
- 4:55say, let me walk with you, Rachel, the journey of
- 4:59Christian. Faith.
- 5:02So because of it, my parents 2 drug addicts who had had
- 5:08devastating childhoods, walked from brokenness and didn't just
- 5:15experience wonderful worship services and hear the word of
- 5:20God for 25 minutes on a. Sunday, they got walked.
- 5:25Hand in hand with specific people into.
- 5:29Come on, I believe that the holy.
- 5:31Spirit wants to heal this specific thing.
- 5:36Not finished, not done. Just begun.
- 5:41Come on, I believe that that specific behaviour that you
- 5:44carried and operated in before you knew Jesus, God wants to
- 5:49transform. He wants to align according to
- 5:52his word. Let's do it.
- 5:57Because of this, I got to witness as a child and a
- 6:02teenager, than a young adult and now as a woman, the continuing
- 6:07process in my parents of people's lives being
- 6:11transformed. Not.
- 6:13Was transformed in a season in the 1st 18 months of them
- 6:16becoming believers but over their life being continually
- 6:20transformed. And so my parents in their 60s
- 6:24are doing more powerful things in the spirit, in the spirit
- 6:27realm and for the Kingdom of God then they did in their 20s and
- 6:32in their 30s, even though God used.
- 6:35Them in that time. This is not supposed to be the
- 6:42story that is unique. To my parents, to Colleen and
- 6:45Henry for. Graham witnessed.
- 6:47The exact same thing. When his parents walked into a
- 6:50Holy Spirit revival, intoxicated when he was one, came out sober
- 6:56and filled with the Holy Spirit. Who you know today in Pastor?
- 7:05Colleen and Henry. Is not who they were 40-5 years
- 7:10ago and it's not who they were. It's not who they are or were 20
- 7:17years ago. Just yesterday, Graham and I
- 7:22watched our wedding video for the first time in 20.
- 7:25Five years. And I got to see and witness the
- 7:32transformation that has taken place since that moment in my
- 7:38parents, in law, in my parents, I was.
- 7:41I was marked. By it to go.
- 7:44Wow, who they? Are today.
- 7:46I knew I had. Good ones.
- 7:47We knew we had good parents. We knew we'd been raised with a
- 7:51heritage of faith. But God has been allowed to
- 7:56continue to disciple their life. Nick so beautifully articulated
- 8:02the testimony of what God has done in her life to intervene.
- 8:06Because my mum, a beautifully broken woman at 19, walked into
- 8:14the Kingdom of God and said here I am.
- 8:18You love me as you receive me and I accept your love, but
- 8:24would you transform my life? Would you rewrite who I am?
- 8:31And has continued to do that for the last.
- 8:35I don't know how many years, a lot of years.
- 8:40Because of this, I can attest today that discipleship is a.
- 8:46Key part. It is not a program in a church.
- 8:50It is not, even though it is one of the best things you could do.
- 8:53Because. My father-in-law, amazing man
- 8:56and God teaches it. It is not a Foundations course
- 8:59that is finished ten weeks from now.
- 9:02Discipleship is a lifelong. Journey you do with somebody who
- 9:06is more mature than you in the faith so that your life is
- 9:10growing in likeness with God continually and so I this
- 9:16morning want to right from the get go apologize to the
- 9:19generations who've come after and.
- 9:22Even to those. In this generation who may have
- 9:24missed this because of the church.
- 9:27And I love the church. I love the church, but we're not
- 9:32always right. The Word of God says do not be
- 9:40conformed to the ways of the world because it's reminding us
- 9:42as believers to not conform to the ways of the world.
- 9:47But sometimes we like to go or conform or move to what culture
- 9:54is doing. And Gray and I can see that
- 10:00there are some things. That as a church.
- 10:02As a generation, even our generation.
- 10:07That we have missed. Out on because we.
- 10:10Moved. From 1:00.
- 10:12On one relationship. To corporatizing.
- 10:17As much as we could, we do this because it is being really
- 10:21frank. A lazier model.
- 10:24It is easy to do a corporate e-mail than it is to do an
- 10:27individual. Coffee, am I right?
- 10:31Come on. I need to.
- 10:32Hear an Amen. Somebody's like.
- 10:33Amen. I'm booking you in this week,
- 10:35right? Come on.
- 10:38I know. That this is confronting.
- 10:41But I also know that there are. People sitting here today.
- 10:44Going yeah, I know, I know. I know there are.
- 10:48Things I've. Missed out on?
- 10:51Because discipleship took. A back step.
- 10:56In the. Church because of it.
- 11:00We've been left. By its effect in the House of
- 11:03God globally. But as there isn't a.
- 11:08Great awakening that has. Begun.
- 11:10It's not that we're waiting for it.
- 11:11It has begun across the earth. You and I actually need to step
- 11:16into this again, exactly what Jesus asked us to do when he
- 11:20left, to be discipled and to make disciples because.
- 11:27With a great. Awakening of people with.
- 11:30The Spirit of God. Moving across our nation.
- 11:33And people being drawn. By the spirit of.
- 11:35God. Into.
- 11:37The House of God saying I know that there is more and I've got
- 11:41to seek this. This is already happening all
- 11:43across the planet. There isn't a country attesting
- 11:47to this. Did.
- 11:48You know that Amazon? Prime has identified this.
- 11:52It is the entire model. Of where they've done the
- 11:55direction. It's why for those of you who.
- 11:57Follows Amazon Prime. It's why they actually are
- 12:00flooding this particular forum. With Christian content because.
- 12:05They've said the next generation is crying out for content to be
- 12:10disciples and to be able to know how to follow Christ, that this
- 12:15particular medium that actually just a couple of years ago was
- 12:19trying to win people with thriller and witchcraft content
- 12:24identified. It dipped in what this next
- 12:27generation is crying out for and it started to do away with this
- 12:32business. They became irrelevant and other
- 12:35forums were grabbing. People's attention.
- 12:39And so one smart man just decided, why don't we find out
- 12:44what the next generation is actually?
- 12:46Asking for. What are they?
- 12:49What are they asking for? They're asking for the ways to.
- 12:53Follow God so. Amazon Prime is flooding their
- 12:57total forum with shows and content so that people can
- 13:02actually. Begin to seek.
- 13:04Out faith and follow and. Find out who Jesus.
- 13:07Is. This has already begun, but for
- 13:11us to be able to do what God. Wants us to.
- 13:14Do with the people. Who walk in here?
- 13:17We. Ourselves.
- 13:18Have to be discipled. Because otherwise what we will
- 13:22do? Is be friendly.
- 13:23I don't want to be a friendly church.
- 13:27I know that sounds really weird. Anybody.
- 13:30Can put on a. Smile.
- 13:32Hold a wobble board. Right and say.
- 13:35We're glad you're here. But I want to know who Victoria
- 13:41is, and I want to know that Victoria is living his best life
- 13:45for Jesus. Christ and that.
- 13:46Everything that called that. God called.
- 13:48Victoria to is. Being done.
- 13:50And cultivated and transformed and moved by his.
- 13:54Spirit and that. Victoria.
- 13:56Leaves a legacy beyond his family, beyond a bloodline for
- 14:02the Kingdom of God that happens not in a Sunday service.
- 14:13This is this this. Here is for encouragement,
- 14:18edification, to stir us, to come alongside others who are going.
- 14:25You doing all that God's asked you to do.
- 14:28Awesome. You're not all right.
- 14:31Come on, let's walk together. Come on, come on.
- 14:34There's more. There's more, there's more, so I
- 14:39want to unpack this morning. Just a couple of things about
- 14:45discipleship because when I say the word discipleship, I know
- 14:49that there are going to be 100 different definitions in this
- 14:52house. Can we begin to see this in your
- 14:55spirit this morning, church? Thank you, Shane.
- 14:59Shane is ready to be discipled. Can we see just spirit this
- 15:06morning for something that hasn't taken place in a long
- 15:08time? Is that all right?
- 15:11I know you feel afraid. I can hear it.
- 15:13That's OK. Belief in Jesus is the key.
- 15:19It is a key. Like I spoke to Joan, like I
- 15:22spoke over you when she was being ministered to.
- 15:25But a discipled life opens the door to the house and allows God
- 15:30to walk into each room. Clean house and use the rooms
- 15:35for their proper function. This is discipleship.
- 15:39Can I give you a biblical definition of discipleship?
- 15:42Ready discipleship is the intentional.
- 15:46Spirit. LED process of being.
- 15:47Formed into the image of Christ. Through obedience.
- 15:51To His word say obedience, to his word intimacy with Him.
- 15:59And in a. One-on-one investment from
- 16:02someone. More spiritually.
- 16:03Mature so that we. Can learn to follow.
- 16:07Jesus. And lead others.
- 16:08To do the same. You cannot be discipled alone.
- 16:16True discipleship happens in. Relationship, not just with
- 16:21Jesus. But with someone who walks ahead
- 16:24of you in faith and Jesus modelled this by closely.
- 16:29Doing this with his disciples, not merely teaching from a
- 16:33distance, but. Calling them to individually
- 16:38walk. With him intimately for 3 1/2
- 16:42years. Some of my notes are also on my
- 16:46phone so I'm opening. This quickly can I?
- 16:52Tell you the results of what we see in the church that sound a
- 16:58lot like there are areas we have conformed to the ways of the
- 17:03world that have happened and crept into the church into.
- 17:07You and I into our everyday. Because of an absence.
- 17:11Of this in our. Life let me.
- 17:14Explain some of them. We have become consumer
- 17:18believers who are fat on content.
- 17:22And poor in character. Just take a breath.
- 17:28I'm going to come to hope in a minute.
- 17:30I'm going to explain what we're going to do in this.
- 17:33We are concerned about the state of the world, and either we feel
- 17:38hopeless or we've become conspiracy theorists, or we have
- 17:44an expectation that the church and leaders do something about
- 17:47it. Another symptom that is cript in
- 17:53because we lack discipleship is that opinions flow freely.
- 18:00They flow freely out of our lips.
- 18:03These thoughts are allowed to play out like movies and cinema.
- 18:08In our minds, we. Open our mouths about things
- 18:12that are destructive, divisive, and not according to the Word of
- 18:16God. Do you know, even in the last
- 18:20two years, I have heard people in conversations, I've been
- 18:24involved. In or in?
- 18:25After church hangs on significant services where we
- 18:29have appointed pastors and leaders.
- 18:32I have heard in cafe conversations where people have
- 18:35gone. Oh, that's an unusual move to
- 18:38do. There or what are they doing
- 18:40with? That person opinions are
- 18:43flowing. Freely we've had leaders,
- 18:50spirits. Discouraged on the day of
- 18:53commissioning because they've gone.
- 18:57They mustn't have anything else for you to do.
- 19:06Church. When our words flow freely and
- 19:13they aren't according to what God has asked us to come into
- 19:17alignment with His word about our words, it is evidence that
- 19:22we lack discipleship in our life.
- 19:26That means there's nobody to go, Oi, that's foul.
- 19:33I have a question for you this morning.
- 19:36Who's allowed to tell you that you're off?
- 19:44Couple know, but I. Want you to?
- 19:46Think for a second. Who?
- 19:49Who is actually allowed? Who is actually?
- 19:56Do you have? One or two trusteds who are
- 19:58actually allowed to say God didn't say that your feelings
- 20:02are same. That oh.
- 20:12Because I can. Tell you I'm going to get there.
- 20:17When? You are not discipled.
- 20:19God says everything God says. What to eat for?
- 20:23Breakfast because you want to. Eat the waffle and not something
- 20:27healthy. He's like you deserve it because
- 20:29I love you. You are beautifully and
- 20:33wonderfully made. So are waffles.
- 20:36Go for it and. Not.
- 20:42Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and you are to
- 20:45cultivate it. And you are to look after it.
- 20:48And you are to nurture it. With all the.
- 20:49Due diligence of that a holy Creator created it and is
- 20:55entrusting it to. You to steward because he's got
- 20:58things to do in and. Through it is somebody allowed
- 21:03to say that poignant thought, but our opinions flow freely.
- 21:10We claim God told. Us when in.
- 21:12Fact, our feelings or. Preferences told us, we claim
- 21:20God told us. In actual fact, in the last
- 21:23three years, I have been told multiple times that God told me
- 21:29by people who had heard it in gossip, and I knew they'd heard
- 21:33it in gossip. They'd heard information and
- 21:37they said I'm silly, I'm silly. Pastamel, I've been around for a
- 21:43long time, followed Jesus my whole life.
- 21:45I just knew. See that I just knew.
- 21:48Undisciple. It's called gossip.
- 21:52You had a conversation on Thursday.
- 21:55Where you found out? And now you're fishing for
- 21:57information. Come on, let it stir our spirit.
- 22:02Let it challenge us. This particular message right
- 22:05now is discipling a couple of us.
- 22:08All right. We are forming.
- 22:13Another symptom is is we form our own doctrines.
- 22:17The. Hymns are the only holy songs.
- 22:21Oh, you laugh. I know you're laughing, but in
- 22:26truth. We.
- 22:27Form our own doctrines when we're undisciple.
- 22:31And these new songs, they're too wordy and I've got to follow the
- 22:34overhead projector, which is only half up there half the
- 22:37time. And so I can't do it.
- 22:42They should. Just do the hymns because they
- 22:44were the only. Holy songs.
- 22:45Oh. Sorry to David and all of the
- 22:47beautiful poets in the Bible who wrote the songs way before the
- 22:50hymns. Ever.
- 22:51Were written. Come on, if we're going to get
- 22:56bigger on the doctrine, let's go back and.
- 22:58Only sing the psalms. Come on.
- 23:01And then Miriam's out a step because she wasn't in the
- 23:04Psalms. When she sang a song.
- 23:06Awkward in awkward. But here's the thing.
- 23:12You might go. I've never.
- 23:13Articulated that however you're. Standing in worship and going
- 23:16hmm Yep. And the drums are really loud
- 23:18again. Oh, it's in my eyes, right in.
- 23:23My eyes. It's in my eyes and oh.
- 23:29Right, we've just been taken to heavenly places.
- 23:31I'm so glad. Thank you, Gray and Mel, for
- 23:33allowing the Holy Spirit to lead this morning.
- 23:37We form our own doctrines because of undiscipleship.
- 23:43Being undiscipled, all right, We can't be instructed how to live,
- 23:52so therefore we never come under authority, which means we are
- 23:56not practiced at coming under God's authority.
- 24:00We can't come. Under God's authority and yet
- 24:02not come under man's because it is in the relationship of
- 24:08humans. That we learn.
- 24:10Humility we learn Vulnerability. We learn transparency when I
- 24:18engage in a. Conversation with Rachel.
- 24:20We talk. About the things that.
- 24:22Hurt. And how to forgive?
- 24:25And we talk. About the.
- 24:26Things that are fractured and how to heal.
- 24:30There is vulnerability and. Humility.
- 24:33And it's in that space that the Holy Spirit can transform our
- 24:37lives. Another thing that I can.
- 24:42Say is the result. Of not discipleship is our
- 24:45altars are empty. Our altars are empty.
- 24:53Which means we've got a problem with pride.
- 25:02I'm really grateful as the pastor of the church that my
- 25:05name is on the seat right there, so I can stand here really
- 25:09easily. Just because you might be in the
- 25:153rd or the 15th or the 20th row does not mean you can't come and
- 25:21stand on this whole tattoo regularly.
- 25:27Do you know our young people, being younger, in faith, and
- 25:31still in a stage of such passion and vigor for the Lord, know in
- 25:36their heart that this is a place of humility and vulnerability
- 25:42when God is doing something in them.
- 25:44You can all see it and you're watching like this.
- 25:47Come on with the one eye, everybody knows it.
- 25:50Who's a seasoned one Eye worshipper?
- 25:55You know what I'm talking about. This place is exposed for a
- 26:01reason. Because when you come and you
- 26:05bring your. Stuff into the beautiful.
- 26:08Exposure before God, he. Does.
- 26:11Things in this place. That are more restorative.
- 26:14Than in a place of pride going. That's just for somebody else.
- 26:22So our altars are empty, we don't share our faith, we don't
- 26:28serve. And the absence of discipleship
- 26:32has bred super spiritualism in the immature and pride and
- 26:38religious spirits in long term believers.
- 26:41This is the result of the church without discipleship.
- 26:46But God had an antidote. He's always had an antidote.
- 26:50In actual fact, it wasn't the antidote.
- 26:52It's the plan. He always had a plan.
- 26:56He has a plan and he says his. Ways lead to life, say his ways.
- 27:01Lead to life. Now, because of the time, I can
- 27:05say I'm going to get. Through 2.
- 27:07Of my five points, and I'm just going to give you those today,
- 27:112. This morning I want to unpack
- 27:15very quickly. In this message saying from
- 27:18believers to followers. Just two.
- 27:22Things about discipleship. That we miss when we aren't.
- 27:28Disciple over the next. Month I'm going to.
- 27:31Unpack all 5 so that we get a full picture of what we're
- 27:35missing out on, and I pray that it stirs your spirit to go.
- 27:39I've got to jump. In on this I need this for my
- 27:43life. Church.
- 27:44I need. This for my life.
- 27:48I would be a lousy pastor. I can tell you that with
- 27:51confidence. If my life is not led by
- 27:55somebody more mature, if there isn't wise counsel going, Nope,
- 27:59that's. You.
- 28:00Nope, that's. Feelings.
- 28:02Nope, that's. Being real with me and teaching
- 28:05me the. Ways of the Lord, places they've
- 28:07gone that I've never gone. We all need this.
- 28:12My iPad's going into low power mode, so pray read in the
- 28:16spirit. We're going to Luke 923 quickly
- 28:20and it says this. Whoever wants to be my disciple
- 28:26must deny themselves and take up their cross daily, say daily.
- 28:32That means not finished. That means not graduated.
- 28:35That means you're not. Done yet?
- 28:36That means you're also ready. Whoa.
- 28:41And follow me. There is a difference between
- 28:44believing in. Jesus and following Him.
- 28:47Believing is the. Beginning of the journey
- 28:49following is the. Transformation of the journey.
- 28:53Many Christians today stop at belief.
- 28:55And never step. Into the rich.
- 28:58But costly, beautiful life of discipleship.
- 29:04Today I want to unpack just two of five.
- 29:07Points, and then we're going to see this out over this month of
- 29:11what we miss out on when we are not discipled #1 if you're
- 29:15taking notes. If you're not taking notes, this
- 29:17is discipleship 101. Pull out a notepad.
- 29:20Pull out your. Phone this is something you're.
- 29:22Going to go back. And you're going to.
- 29:23Stew on and meditate. On.
- 29:26Come on and go. To the word of God and verify
- 29:28it. Not chat, not chat your BT Go
- 29:31and verify. It in the word of God we miss
- 29:35out number one, we. Miss out on the power of.
- 29:38Transformation. Romans 12/2 says do not conform
- 29:43to the pattern. Of this world.
- 29:45But be be by the renewing. Of your mind.
- 29:52Undisciplined believers say. But this is the way I am.
- 29:57This is just the way I talk. This is just the.
- 30:00Way my whole family does this is.
- 30:02The way I've lived, this is the way.
- 30:04This is the way. This is the way I.
- 30:06AM and God loves. Me anyway.
- 30:12Undisciplined believers also say only God.
- 30:15Can disciple me, just me and the.
- 30:18Holy Spirit, he's. Talking to me about it all the
- 30:21time. That's an attitude, even if it's
- 30:26subconscious that we have arrived or we've graduated.
- 30:31At this discipleship journey. I can.
- 30:36Tell you with confidence. Church, you never arrive until
- 30:38you've gone to heaven. In the discipleship journey,
- 30:42you're never finished. These are often used to be.
- 30:46Really, Frank as an excuse for spiritual stagnation?
- 30:52True disciples. Say search me Lord and change
- 30:57me. Search me, Lord put me.
- 31:00On the Potter's. Wheel again.
- 31:03Put me on the Potters wheel. Jesus didn't just come to
- 31:05forgive your sin, He came. To transform your life.
- 31:09Dallas. Willard says this.
- 31:11The greatest issue facing the world today is whether.
- 31:14Those who identify. As Christians will become.
- 31:17Disciples, students, apprentices, practitioners.
- 31:24Of Jesus Christ. What a statement.
- 31:27It's huge. Belief is the beginning.
- 31:30Transformation is the journey. Without discipleship we we
- 31:35settle for spiritual survival instead of spiritual renewal.
- 31:42Believing in Jesus saves our soul, but following.
- 31:46Jesus transforms our life. Without discipleship, we risk.
- 31:51Staying the same saved but struggling.
- 31:57I don't know about you but I want to go beyond Saved but
- 32:01struggling. Who else here today is?
- 32:03Saying you know what, that's me. I want to go beyond saved but
- 32:08struggling. There is more for us and it
- 32:12comes through. Transformation.
- 32:14Come on, Jesus didn't just die to.
- 32:17Give us a new. Destination, yes.
- 32:21Your salvation equals eternity, and that is worth rejoicing
- 32:26over. But he died to give you and IA
- 32:28new identity. Come on.
- 32:33Discipleship. Reshapes our thinking, our.
- 32:36Relationships. Our priorities.
- 32:38Our purpose? And our written story, finally,
- 32:45as the ban comes this morning #2.
- 32:51We miss the joy. Of intimacy with Jesus.
- 32:56We miss. The Joy of intimacy.
- 32:59John 1515 says this I no. Longer call you.
- 33:03Servants, somebody needs to hear this today.
- 33:09You've come to know Jesus. You are rejoicing in the.
- 33:16Salvation of your sins. But he's saying to.
- 33:19You and I today. I no longer call you servants.
- 33:24Instead I've called you friends. Friends.
- 33:29Undisciple believers say I just. Need the church?
- 33:33Service to feed me all that. Great podcast to feed me.
- 33:39Actually I have a whole Sunday set up.
- 33:41I love this. Preacher, then this preacher,
- 33:42then this preacher on. You know, Christian TV or
- 33:45Instagram or whatever, and then I'll come to the service, love
- 33:49it. The life experience that can
- 33:51feed me. I am.
- 33:53Feeling encouraged and a. Boost of faith.
- 33:56To launch me into my Wii? Undesirable.
- 34:00Believers say, which is. Common and.
- 34:03Very, very sad. I.
- 34:05Believe in God. But I don't feel close to God.
- 34:12I don't feel his nearness. I don't.
- 34:15Feel His presence that is with me always.
- 34:18As his words. Says it is.
- 34:20He doesn't. Leave you.
- 34:22He doesn't forsake you, he says. I will.
- 34:24Never leave you. And I will never.
- 34:26Forsake you. But when we miss the joy of.
- 34:32Intimacy we can often. Be very aware.
- 34:37That he does not feel near or present in our everyday life and
- 34:42so we often will come to a Sunday service and be consumers
- 34:48of a feeling that makes me feel near to the presence of God.
- 34:54Did you know you can experience? That always I wonder.
- 35:00If you believe that today. Did you know you can experience
- 35:04that when you brush your teeth, you.
- 35:07Know I think I'm crazy, but you can.
- 35:09You can experience it's. Hard to pray in the Spirit.
- 35:12Brushing your teeth. I don't recommend it.
- 35:16You can do it here. You can feel His presence and
- 35:19His nearness in every moment, waking and sleeping.
- 35:26For some of you, you are plagued in your dreams.
- 35:28With things. That God never designed.
- 35:31To be there, deposit there for you to have to process and his
- 35:35presence and His nearness. Is not felt because there is a
- 35:39lack. Of intimacy with him.
- 35:44When you take a journey of discipleship, somebody can walk
- 35:49you through how to be a spiritual overcomer, even in
- 35:53your. Sleeping hours because you.
- 35:56Can be an overcomer. In your sleeping hours.
- 36:00I have walked with girls who used to be plagued with
- 36:03nightmares. They were marked by this for
- 36:05their life, who now are spiritual prophetesses.
- 36:10And you know what? They often don't dream anymore
- 36:13because I know that the enemy is afraid.
- 36:15When he shows up. And they're wielding this, so
- 36:18you go back for more. Ready.
- 36:21Come on, in the name of Jesus, we have the.
- 36:26Ability to do this. But many of us actually have to
- 36:30be. Not many.
- 36:31All of us have to be walked. Like Jesus?
- 36:34Called disciples to walk with so they understood and knew how to
- 36:39do this. Because of this, this reflects.
- 36:44Second hand relationship discipleship leads us into
- 36:49direct. Communion with God.
- 36:53CS Lewis says this. Christ says give me all.
- 36:58I don't want so much of your time or so.
- 37:01Much of your money or so much of your work?
- 37:05I want it all. It's not going to cost you
- 37:09something church to follow Jesus.
- 37:12It is going to cost you everything.
- 37:17Jesus doesn't want your. Belief He wants your heart, He
- 37:21wants your thoughts, He wants your actions, He wants your.
- 37:24Walk. He wants your.
- 37:26Talk. Come on, followers.
- 37:29Make space daily to meet with Jesus in.
- 37:34Scripture in prayer. And in obedience.
- 37:38At our IMC conference this week. Oh, it was fun.
- 37:44Graham and I were. Challenged in the.
- 37:45Very first session for as a. In a.
- 37:47Pastor's lunch. It's supposed to be the cushy
- 37:50section. You know, cushy session with
- 37:52lunch. And Corey Russell says to us as
- 37:58pastors, who covets your prayer life?
- 38:02Who wants it? Come on, I know.
- 38:07Even here in this. House today.
- 38:09There will be. Specific believers that you.
- 38:11Covet their prayer life. Come on, am I right?
- 38:17Covered in a good way. There are spiritual gifts.
- 38:19You're allowed to covet. Do you know if you want to learn
- 38:23to pray? Why?
- 38:23Don't you spend some? Time with Rachel Eaton.
- 38:26Even in an office when I'm trying.
- 38:28To get work done. There is warfare and intimacy
- 38:33taking. Place at all times.
- 38:36And I love it because it draws me in to say.
- 38:40I covet this gift. I covet the gift of prayer on
- 38:45Pastor TJ and Saraya's. Life, but it's I.
- 38:52Wonder if this morning you and I can go instead of coveting?
- 38:55These things. Coveting the prophetic of Pastor
- 38:59Rachel, we go and said, I'm going to be walked into the
- 39:05development and the fulfillment and the fullness of the gifts
- 39:09God's placed in my. Life.
- 39:12And instead of vicariously operating out of Rachel, I go.
- 39:15Would you teach me how? What does this require?
- 39:19How many hours a day of intimacy with God?
- 39:23Is there a number? I learnt some numbers.
- 39:28This week we. Learnt some numbers.
- 39:30This week that went. Something we're coveting,
- 39:35Something that we're craving, Something we want to step into.
- 39:38We allowed. Team members to disciple us and
- 39:40went well, this is what it's cost us.
- 39:44This is the cost of this discipleship gift.
- 39:49OK, how do we do that? How do I step into that?
- 39:54Would you help me? Would you start to walk with me
- 39:56in this? Would you?
- 39:57Begin to cultivate this and not would.
- 39:59You do it for me. Would you hold me accountable to
- 40:02it? Would you ring me up and say
- 40:04what did God speak? To you about when you.
- 40:06Asked him that. What did he tell you?
- 40:08Are you going to do? It how when when are?
- 40:12You going to do these things, discipleship, church, You and I
- 40:20cannot lack intimacy with God because when we do, we have a
- 40:25whole lot of knowledge about who He is.
- 40:28But we can't lead people who are searching for somebody to
- 40:33absolutely turn their lives upside down if we've not allowed
- 40:37God to totally turn our lives upside down.
- 40:39And I'm not talking about fill up your calendar.
- 40:43I'm talking about transform your life.
- 40:47We can't live off second hand faith.
- 40:51We can't be consumers. Podcasts, sermons, others
- 40:57experiences. Today Jesus is inviting us to
- 41:02walk with him, to hear his voice, to know his heart.
- 41:09Because disciples are not just learning about Jesus, they are
- 41:12becoming more like him. And so this morning I'm going to
- 41:17ask for a response to this message.
- 41:22And I know it's been challenging.
- 41:25Put your seatbelts on. We're going for four weeks to
- 41:27see this, but it's not going anywhere after a month.
- 41:33We believe there is a power and an intimacy found when we become
- 41:39mature disciples, which doesn't happen in a moment, it happens
- 41:45in a journey. So I'm wondering right now in
- 41:50this meeting is Keys beautifully plays and you've been reminded
- 41:55that God is here, He is near, he is present if you have.
- 42:02Felt during this. Time the challenge, the
- 42:08reminder, the call to be disciple, if you would just
- 42:16stand to your feet where you are.
- 42:31God, this is such a humbling journey.
- 42:38There's something you want to do in each and every one of us.
- 42:41You don't want us to miss out on the fullness of what you want to
- 42:45do in us. Every single one of us has been
- 42:49called the Purpose. But to walk in it, we've got to
- 42:55walk following you. This is not done alone.
- 43:02And so this morning, with arms outstretched.
- 43:09We. Humbly come before you to do
- 43:13what you've asked us to do to follow.
- 43:16You if you're. Choosing to do that this
- 43:20morning, I'm going to just ask you to confess it.
- 43:21Say I'll follow you, Jesus. Now just I believe in you.
- 43:26I am choosing from this moment forward to follow you.
- 43:33To walk in. Obedience to your word to be
- 43:37transformed, and so to grow in intimacy with you.
- 43:43To actually hear your. Voice and not profess your voice
- 43:48based on my feelings. God, you have.
- 43:52Permission to lead my life. Would you say your own prayer
- 43:55this morning instead of me doing it?
- 43:58You can borrow my words, but God, would you lead my life?
- 44:03Would you? Help me to be.
- 44:05Humble and allow people. Allow somebody.
- 44:12To come. Alongside my life and.
- 44:15Walk with. Me on this journey.
- 44:19To speak in the areas where there is more that you have.
- 44:22For me. In the areas that maybe I've.
- 44:25Settled or become comfortable God would you do it because this
- 44:31morning I. Choose to follow you.
- 44:34I choose to follow you. I want to be counted.
- 44:39As one of your disciples, not just believers.
- 44:44I want to be counted as one of your.
- 44:45Disciples I want. To know you intimately, I want
- 44:48to know how you think, how you speak, how you do.
- 44:52I want to know the questions to ask, like how do I pray?
- 44:55Because I witness it in your. Life God teach me how?
- 45:02Help me to keep my spirit sweet, teachable, humble so that I'm up
- 45:08for this journey and never let me get stagnant or comfortable
- 45:12or complacent in an attitude that I have made it.
- 45:16And that it's done. And that it's finished and that
- 45:19it's. Just for the young.
- 45:20Ones. God, shake that up.
- 45:23You had permission this morning to put us on.
- 45:26The Potter's wheel. To put us on the.
- 45:29Potter's wheel again, God. Break us and make us and mold
- 45:36us. To be in the likeness of you for
- 45:42you. Alone.
- 45:43Holy. You alone are righteous.
- 45:46You alone are good. You alone are mighty, you alone
- 45:50are powerful, and for me to carry and do any of these
- 45:56things. I've.
- 45:57Got to be transformed. Into your likeness.
- 46:02So God you have. Permission this morning to
- 46:05transform my life. That is your.
- 46:13Prayer this morning say Amen.