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Psychic Spies, GATE Program, Monroe Institue | Jay Weidner & Ryder Lee · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, j Wider, Reality Check, hit like and support
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Speaker 1: and all that, and we're here today with Ryder Lee,
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Speaker 1: my partner in crime, and he has a new film
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Speaker 1: out well, Psychic Agent The Gate Program. Really good. It's
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Speaker 1: just opened up on Amazon. Put the link below, and
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Speaker 1: it's a really really really good film, really well done.
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Speaker 1: It's got great guests and the plot interwees, remote viewing,
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Speaker 1: MK ultra and the Gate Program kind of all. It
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Speaker 1: was very very well done. Hey, Ryder, good job.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Jay. We did it. It's finally out.
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Speaker 2: It took a really long time, but we finally got
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Speaker 2: it out there, and we were thinking that maybe there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of stuff in this film that you know,
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Speaker 2: the powers that be did not want people to see.
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Speaker 2: But thankfully it's out there. You can now watch it
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Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime Video. Jay's got the link in the description.
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Speaker 2: Go over there and check it out, give it a watch,
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Speaker 2: and clear out your schedule because it's around two hours
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Speaker 2: long and there's a lot of information in there. And
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Speaker 2: I mean the first fifty minutes is like basically the
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Speaker 2: history of the entire psychic spy program that the government
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Speaker 2: set up and how that all came to be. And
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Speaker 2: how that originated, throughout all the name changes and everything
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Speaker 2: that really happened with that, And that was really important
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Speaker 2: for me to really nail down because I don't think
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Speaker 2: that there has ever been a documentary really comprehensively getting
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Speaker 2: into all of that, because some of the people within
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Speaker 2: the gay program don't even agree on the entire history
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Speaker 2: of the Stargate program. So it's like, you know, I
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Speaker 2: thought that it was really important, but it's all laid
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Speaker 2: out according to official, declassified DA and CIA documents. So
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Speaker 2: I hope you guys really enjoy it. Clear out the schedule,
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Speaker 2: sit down, take notes on your phone, or if you're
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Speaker 2: still using a pad and a piece of paper, you're
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Speaker 2: probably going to want to take notes or just rewatch
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Speaker 2: it again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the history is really interesting, you know, because it
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Speaker 1: really started in nineteen fifty eight, which is a really
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Speaker 1: strange year in history. By the way, A lot of
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Speaker 1: stuff happened in nineteen fifty eight, but Sputnik happened in
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, and you're showing your film how that
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Speaker 1: caused the government to go into a full scale panic
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Speaker 1: that our education system was not up to par with Russia.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was and it was all decentralized
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Speaker 1: at the time. I was only a little kid, I
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Speaker 1: don't remember, but it was pretty much each city had
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Speaker 1: its own educational system, each state had its own educational system.
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Speaker 1: Federal government had nothing to do with anything. And then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden that just changed and on the
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Speaker 1: federal government got completely involved in the education system. And
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Speaker 1: that's really where the beginning of this whole psychic thing started, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it even goes further back to that than
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Speaker 2: that at Duke University in the thirties with doctor J.
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Speaker 2: B Ryan, which developed this telepathy card game called the
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Speaker 2: zunder Cards, and then he would go to Canada and test,
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Speaker 2: you know, indigenous school children for psychic abilities. He also
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Speaker 2: did this in the United States. So the government had
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Speaker 2: been funding these different operations through different universities and other
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Speaker 2: government contractors long before they ever decided to really study
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Speaker 2: it or before SRI ever, you know, got into the
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Speaker 2: picture and involved into psychic research and remote viewing. So
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Speaker 2: there's a longstanding history with this stuff, and you're one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent right in with the Sputnik and how we
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Speaker 2: needed to essentially go in and grab scientists and engineers
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Speaker 2: and basically cultivate children to put them into roles within society.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, they had to do that because I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's what it that's the official excuse right in the beginning,
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Speaker 2: was that we need to basically cultivate and create these
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Speaker 2: people within our society out of the public school system
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Speaker 2: because Russia has all the stuff. They beat us in
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Speaker 2: the space. It's that classic, you know, Russia did this,
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Speaker 2: we got to do it too, type of scenario. And
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Speaker 2: what I found really interesting is that Russia on paper
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Speaker 2: got more not the scientists and engineers into Russia than
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Speaker 2: the United States. They got around six thousand Nazi engineers
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Speaker 2: and scientists and people like that, and more than what
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Speaker 2: was officially recorded on paper in Project paper Clip, the
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Speaker 2: ones that came into the United States. But there was
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Speaker 2: a Russian version of that that was called there was
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Speaker 2: essentially the Russian version of the Project paper Clip, and
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Speaker 2: that's all over six thousand Nazi scientists and engineers and
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Speaker 2: their family members put on a train and taken into
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Speaker 2: Russia after World War Two. So it's almost like the
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Speaker 2: United States got some of the kind of the leftover
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Speaker 2: scraps from that, the people that you know, the leftovers,
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Speaker 2: the second hand people are the ones that the United
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Speaker 2: States got, and that's shown within the remote viewing and
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Speaker 2: psychic spy documents. Russia was very heavily into the energetic
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Speaker 2: side of remoteing and telepathy and trying to remove, you know,
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Speaker 2: move things with your mind and use this program called
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Speaker 2: a Donnie ghypnos, which is essentially hypnosis at a distance.
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Speaker 2: If they could literally hypnotize people and plant thoughts and
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Speaker 2: ideas into other people's minds from across the world on
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Speaker 2: the other side of the planet, then you can effectively
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Speaker 2: control people, politicians, You can make them do what you
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Speaker 2: want them to do. And Jimmy Carter kind of got
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Speaker 2: wrapped up into this. One of the times that he
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Speaker 2: went to Russia was one of the last, well the
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Speaker 2: only time that he went, and whenever he came back,
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Speaker 2: he wasn't really quite the same. He was a different
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Speaker 2: type of individual. And within the remote viewing community, Lim
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Speaker 2: Buchanan talks about this within the movie. People believe that
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Speaker 2: that was due to an infiltration into his mind and
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Speaker 2: then messing with his mind in Russia through these psychic
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Speaker 2: remove viewers.
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Speaker 1: And we know that this is not like some Outlantic
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Speaker 1: stuff because Tim O'Neill the author of Chaos just testified
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Speaker 1: in front of the in front of Congress about all
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Speaker 1: of this. It said that they can literally put thoughts
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Speaker 1: into your mind. He said that in front of Congress.
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Speaker 1: So it's not an outlandis thing at all. It's actually
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Speaker 1: quite an easy thing to do.
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Speaker 2: It's wrapped up into the mk Ultra stuff. Mk Ultra.
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Speaker 2: There were several mk ultra subprojects that were used just
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Speaker 2: for the study of psychic abilities, and several of them
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Speaker 2: were on children as well. I mean, I have a
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Speaker 2: whole part in the documentary that just talks about the
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Speaker 2: CIA's involvement with children and what they were doing with
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Speaker 2: children as summer camps. It's really verifiable, so it seems
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Speaker 2: like it's a The gate program is a big mixture
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Speaker 2: of a bunch of different things. It wraps in the
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Speaker 2: psychic spy stuff, it wraps in the mk Ultra, wraps
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Speaker 2: in the Monroe Institute. And that's another really big distinction
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Speaker 2: that I think that we really get across within the
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Speaker 2: movie is that there's a lot of gate stuff, Like
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Speaker 2: it seems like a lot of things has gate at
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Speaker 2: the end of it. You got the Gateway Project, the
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Speaker 2: Stargate project that you got the gate programs in public school.
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Speaker 2: It seems like that they're kind of naming all of
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Speaker 2: these things very similar, so that you kind of get confused.
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Speaker 2: And because I really believe that a lot of people
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Speaker 2: got confused between the Monroe Institute Gateway program and the
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Speaker 2: Stargate program. See a lot of people that were involved
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Speaker 2: in the Gateway program got confused and thought that they
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Speaker 2: were a part of the Stargate program. But I have
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Speaker 2: Dell Graph in the documentary that actually coined the term
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Speaker 2: Stargate for the remote viewing unit in the early nineties,
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Speaker 2: and it went through several name changes. It was Center Lane,
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Speaker 2: Sunstreet Girl, Flame. It went through all of these different
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Speaker 2: name changes in different iterations through different organizations. It was
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Speaker 2: from the DA then went to the Army Intelligence, back
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Speaker 2: to DIA. It was this back and forth of and
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Speaker 2: anybody that doubts that remote viewing doesn't work, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you can just read through some of the documents. That's
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Speaker 2: what I did. I read through every single document that
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Speaker 2: I could possibly get my hands on, and there are
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Speaker 2: real verifiable depictions and drawings of these individuals literally seeing
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Speaker 2: things with their mind, and it's called an idiogram. They
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Speaker 2: would literally sketch it out on a piece of paper
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Speaker 2: and and there would be a lot of them turned
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Speaker 2: out to be very correct. I mean Angela Ford within
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Speaker 2: the documentary, she was a psychic spy for the DA
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Speaker 2: and Army intelligence. You know, she will tell you that
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Speaker 2: they weren't even really that accurate, but most of them were.
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Speaker 2: They would hit it like it a sixty sixty to
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Speaker 2: seventy percent. And if something works sixty to seventy percent
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Speaker 2: of the time, I think that's a pretty good ratio
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Speaker 2: when you're looking at it from you know, the whenever
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Speaker 2: you take that information and then gather with the actual
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Speaker 2: information that you do have and that you can't get
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Speaker 2: from like intel and imagery and everything. So then you
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Speaker 2: would combine the information that the removed viewers are also
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Speaker 2: getting along with all the other information that you have,
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Speaker 2: and then you have a kind of a detailed, accurate
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Speaker 2: thing that is essentially going on in that area. But
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Speaker 2: Ingo swan really popular remove viewer, considered one of the
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Speaker 2: best pap price another really popular Removvie were widely considered
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Speaker 2: to be one of the greatest remove viewers of all time.
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Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I think that we just really we
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Speaker 2: hit on a lot of different areas in there, and
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Speaker 2: I think it's really great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of really quite brilliant how you mixed
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Speaker 1: the mkos or remote viewing and the Gate program. So
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Speaker 1: what is the What do you think is the goal
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Speaker 1: of the Gate program? They take these kids, they test them.
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Speaker 1: The ones that turn out to have some psychic ability
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Speaker 1: to get moved into classrooms away from the other students,
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Speaker 1: and then they're given psychic tests. We don't know a
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Speaker 1: lot about what happened. All the stories are so disparate.
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Speaker 1: Some people don't remember anything. I talk to people who
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Speaker 1: don't remember. They went every year, but they don't remember
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Speaker 1: what happened. I just don't know. But what do you
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Speaker 1: think the goal is still going on? So what is
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Speaker 1: the goal? Where were they trying to do?
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Speaker 2: Well? A lot of people remember being in the Gay Program.
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Speaker 2: Millions of kids have been through it. A lot of
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Speaker 2: people now are experiencing what they claim to be some
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Speaker 2: sort of collective dream that they all seem to be in.
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Speaker 2: They've labeled in more World and they've kind of mapped
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Speaker 2: it all out, and they're there every single night. And
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Speaker 2: I've spoken with some individuals that have reached out to
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Speaker 2: me from me making this movie and making them aware,
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Speaker 2: and they said that their kids are currently in the program.
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Speaker 2: He said that one individual that I can't name because
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Speaker 2: he wants his identity to be secret and you know,
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Speaker 2: because of scrutiny, and he lives in like a an
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Speaker 2: area that if you were to come out and say this,
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Speaker 2: they would automatically know, you know, who he was. But
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Speaker 2: he said that his daughter came back from school one
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Speaker 2: day and was like, every single day, this black van
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Speaker 2: pulls up to the school and me and a handful
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Speaker 2: of kids get on this get inside of this black van,
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Speaker 2: this black suv, and then we go on these field
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Speaker 2: trips every day. She said, this happens. And she says
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Speaker 2: whenever she gets home at night, a bunch of kids
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Speaker 2: come and get her out of bed in the middle
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Speaker 2: of the night, and then they go outside and they
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Speaker 2: all go out and meet in the middle of the
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Speaker 2: night during the school week.
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Speaker 1: Willie's three Streever wrote a book called Secret School that's
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Speaker 1: been thirty years ago about and he's my age, and
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Speaker 1: he said the same thing he was. I think it
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Speaker 1: was San Antonio he lived in and they would come
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Speaker 1: and get him at night and they take him to
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Speaker 1: places and you know that would have to be around
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two or so, so it was going on
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Speaker 1: even back then. And when I first read his book,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was all balder dash. I said, come,
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Speaker 1: only give me a break, right, And then this stuff
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Speaker 1: started coming out, and let's apologize to the whity man.
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Speaker 1: You were onto something I did not know. So where
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Speaker 1: are we going with it? With all this? What's the
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Speaker 1: what's the ultimate goal here? But do you think I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just hypothetical because we don't know. But what do
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Speaker 1: you think?
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Speaker 2: Well, there's multifaceted and multi layered, right, and they definitely
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Speaker 2: want to create leaders in communities, including inventors and outside
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Speaker 2: of the box thinkers, and they want to control them
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Speaker 2: from the very beginning. I believe that this is about
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Speaker 2: control on many different levels. And whenever you have those
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Speaker 2: types of when you can control people from a very
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Speaker 2: young age, you can essentially then control the future because
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Speaker 2: you have all of the brightest minds in the United
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Speaker 2: States working for you. You have them working for the
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Speaker 2: government essentially, so no one can really step outside of
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Speaker 2: that and create something that's going to benefit and change
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Speaker 2: our way of life, right, because you already have them.
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Speaker 2: You know, working for you, and the ones that slipped
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Speaker 2: through the cracks that may invent something that would really
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Speaker 2: change our way of life and revolutionize the way that
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Speaker 2: we operate as a society. Those inventions and those patterns
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Speaker 2: just get buried under the National Security Act and no
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Speaker 2: one ever finds out about it, and then a lot
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Speaker 2: of times they're just killed, assassinated or murdered. Right. The
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Speaker 2: Invention Secrecy Act of nineteen fifty one, you know, basically
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Speaker 2: makes it to where the government can classify in any
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Speaker 2: patent under the threat of national security. And that's the
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Speaker 2: best excuse for anything. The government has been been using
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Speaker 2: the excuse of a threat of national security for who
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Speaker 2: knows how long, Because national security can be whatever you
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Speaker 2: want it to be. They can just say, yeah, this
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Speaker 2: is national security. You can't know, or we're doing this
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Speaker 2: because of national security reasons. We see this a lot
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Speaker 2: with the UFO topic, which I believe in the future
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Speaker 2: where a lot of information is going to come out
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Speaker 2: about this and it's going to, you know, be something
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Speaker 2: like that. Some of these kids maybe being groomed to
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Speaker 2: essentilly control craft with their mind.
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Speaker 1: So they're captured. They're capturing the best of the best
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Speaker 1: from a young age and they're pretty much captured for
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Speaker 1: the rest of their life. And the ones that rebel
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Speaker 1: are taking care of in whatever way that they take
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Speaker 1: care of it.
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Speaker 2: So they would get them hooked on some torpos to
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Speaker 2: the type of drugs they would essentially drug the crap
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Speaker 2: out of them. I mean Charlie Kirk. This is what
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Speaker 2: was going to happen to Charlie Kirk. They wanted to
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Speaker 2: drug him, put him on a cramp ton of drugs
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Speaker 2: and his mom said no, and then they put him
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Speaker 2: into a specialized Gate Program school. So if you rebel,
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Speaker 2: then they essentially turned your life to cramp they did.
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Speaker 1: That's what I've been told now. I had a woman
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Speaker 1: tell me she was in the Gate Program and she
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Speaker 1: said that she came home one day after school completely traumatized,
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Speaker 1: but she couldn't tell her mom what she was traumatized bot.
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Speaker 1: She didn't know, but her mom thought that she had
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Speaker 1: been sexually traumatized. She was like twelve years old, And
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Speaker 1: I kept her out of school for two weeks and
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Speaker 1: then started attending school with her because she was too
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Speaker 1: terrorized to go back to school. She did not want
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Speaker 1: to go back, and eventually she did go back and
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Speaker 1: the trauma subsided. But you got to wonder what happened
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Speaker 1: to her, right, I mean if we.
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Speaker 2: Know that.
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Speaker 1: Trauma can make you more psychic, and we do know that, now,
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Speaker 1: would they have the moral fiber to not do that?
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Speaker 2: I don't think shot, I don't think any of these
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Speaker 2: people are moral. They don't care at all. They just
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Speaker 2: want to They want to work on and do what's
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Speaker 2: best for them so that they.
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Speaker 1: Can get to their bottom line.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's really what it is. And they don't
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Speaker 2: care how many people that they hurt in the process,
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Speaker 2: and that's inevitable. I mean if you just look back
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Speaker 2: at the last fifty to sixty years, I mean you
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Speaker 2: can see that that it's all right in front of
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Speaker 2: her face, is that these people do not care about
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Speaker 2: us and who they who they harm, and who they
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Speaker 2: hurt and who they traumatized. Now we just have a
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Speaker 2: traumatization on mass scales, and now they just do it
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Speaker 2: to everybody all at the exact same time instead of
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Speaker 2: you know, an individual type process. But yes, trauma does
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Speaker 2: tend to unlock these abilities. I mean we kind of,
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Speaker 2: you know, postulated that in our film before this, which
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Speaker 2: was a clockwork Shining in Cubric's Odyssey three, where we
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Speaker 2: essentially the doctor within the movie, the Shining is telling
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Speaker 2: Wendy in the apartment that you know this has to
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Speaker 2: do with him being injured and him being traumatized, that
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Speaker 2: he's started having these psychic visions. They've known this for
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Speaker 2: a really long time. And Ravens Craig started by doctor
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Speaker 2: Hugh and Cameron in Canada. That was his process, right,
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Speaker 2: you drug them, you traumatize them, you psychically drive them.
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Speaker 2: Then well he did this thing before the psychic driving
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Speaker 2: called deep patterning, which was a part of the traumatization
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Speaker 2: in there, and then you psychically drive them, so then
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Speaker 2: you can implant thoughts and ideas and beliefs directly into
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Speaker 2: their head and make them believe something that may or
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Speaker 2: may not have happened, or make them not believe something
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Speaker 2: that did happen. It works both ways. And that's what
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Speaker 2: it seems like that is going on within these gay programs, right.
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Speaker 2: They're forced to be taking a strange substance, the pink
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Speaker 2: drink that everyone talks about. To me, that seems like
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Speaker 2: it's some kind of drug. Now, what kind of drug
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Speaker 2: we don't really know? Could be some sort of hallucinogenic drug.
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Speaker 2: It could be something that gets you more relaxed, it
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Speaker 2: could be a sedative whatever. And then they take them
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Speaker 2: in and they give them this hearing test, and the
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Speaker 2: hearing tests are essentially a biofeedback type Monroe Institute get
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Speaker 2: you outside of your body type thing. And then what
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Speaker 2: did we equate to getting outside of your body? Getting
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Speaker 2: outside of your body is equating you to unlocking your
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Speaker 2: psychic abilities. So when you lay all this stuff out
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Speaker 2: and you know all this is very real, That's what
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Speaker 2: the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes were to do, was to
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Speaker 2: induce an out of body experiment, and that's why the
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Speaker 2: CIA got so interested in the Monroe Institute. The d
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Speaker 2: IA literally send army soldiers to the Monroe Institute to
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Speaker 2: study under Robert Monroe to see if getting outside of
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Speaker 2: your body can essentially help. And a lot of the
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Speaker 2: earlier remote viewers like Ingo Swan would talk about how
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Speaker 2: being outside of your body is really the most advanced
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Speaker 2: form of remote viewing. So astral projection is the most
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Speaker 2: advanced form of remote viewing because you're actually there.
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Speaker 1: Reap what they're teaching them. They're teaching them how to
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Speaker 1: go out of their body, how to astrally project, how
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Speaker 1: to become a remote viewer, how to spy on your neighbors,
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Speaker 1: how to spy on your corporation that you're working for,
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Speaker 1: how to be in meetings that you're not invited to
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Speaker 1: because you're remote viewed them. That's what they're doing. And
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Speaker 1: then that's all fed back to some kind of profiling
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Speaker 1: mechanism Ai've probably driven now, but before that just computer driven,
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Speaker 1: and then profiles are created on not just the people
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Speaker 1: that are in the program, but people that are around them,
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Speaker 1: so because they're there, and then the successful ones get
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Speaker 1: to be at the top of the entertainment and the
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Speaker 1: politics and the corporate world. And then the ones that
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Speaker 1: don't comply end up probably vetinol, addicts or something something
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Speaker 1: to lower their ability. You know, there's a movie I
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Speaker 1: highly recommend it. It's called The Fury. It was directed
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Speaker 1: by Brian de Palma, and it's about two young people
23:17
Speaker 1: who well, the beginning of the movie, a psychic guy
23:22
Speaker 1: is walking around Chicago trying to identify people who are psychic, right,
23:27
Speaker 1: and he identifies as one woman is being psychic, and
23:30
Speaker 1: then she gets taken into a program where they give
23:34
Speaker 1: the cards all the psychic stuff goes on, and it's
23:41
Speaker 1: a precursor to all of this. It must have been
23:43
Speaker 1: made by somebody in the CIA or something, because I
23:47
Speaker 1: don't know how that movie got everything so right, But
23:51
Speaker 1: it was even back then, in nineteen seventy eight, there
23:53
Speaker 1: were special schools that were taken in psychic kids by
23:57
Speaker 1: the government. The government was doing it. Sean Cassabetti's is
24:01
Speaker 1: the government agent in the movie who's running the program
24:06
Speaker 1: looking for psychic kids. And so this has been around
24:10
Speaker 1: only time. That movie is almost fifty years old, and
24:14
Speaker 1: so it's not something that is new, but it is
24:19
Speaker 1: something that has not been talked about in a way
24:22
Speaker 1: that is real, because that movie is a fiction. So
24:27
Speaker 1: now we know that they have had these programs, and
24:30
Speaker 1: then raises the question like, are all our leaders in
24:37
Speaker 1: all these fields? Are they all the direct results of
24:39
Speaker 1: the Gate program? I mean, I think the answer is yeah.
24:45
Speaker 2: I think so too. And it seems like that they
24:48
Speaker 2: just put out a bunch of front people, Like the
24:51
Speaker 2: military will develop a technology, then they'll give that technology
24:57
Speaker 2: to the public. But the only way to give it
24:59
Speaker 2: to the BLAKE is to create a front person for
25:02
Speaker 2: the public facing version of the military. Project. So then
25:07
Speaker 2: they make it look like that the public front facing
25:12
Speaker 2: person that developed this all this stuff is the one
25:17
Speaker 2: that created it, when they really weren't. They were just
25:20
Speaker 2: given They were just given the technology and was like, here,
25:24
Speaker 2: we want to bring this out to the public. We
25:25
Speaker 2: don't know how to bring this out to the public
25:27
Speaker 2: because this is a military created operation. Here, we'll give
25:31
Speaker 2: this to you. You go out and say that you
25:34
Speaker 2: created this whole thing. And then I mean, I one
25:37
Speaker 2: percent believe that with Mark Zuckerberg, A one percent believe
25:40
Speaker 2: the Facebook was a some sort of operation that was
25:46
Speaker 2: just given to Mark Zuckerberg. And then he's a front
25:49
Speaker 2: facing person of that company and he pretends to run it,
25:53
Speaker 2: run it when he's not really the one doing anything.
25:55
Speaker 1: He never And the real insult is that, like Zucky,
26:01
Speaker 1: he's got to give a lot of that money back
26:03
Speaker 1: to the people that gave him that technology. He's didn't
26:06
Speaker 1: get away with that for free. He doesn't get to
26:08
Speaker 1: make hundreds of billions of dollars. That's how it works.
26:13
Speaker 1: I have a friend whose dad was in the Navy
26:18
Speaker 1: for like twenty five years. He retired, but when he retired,
26:21
Speaker 1: he started inventing. He wasn't an engineer or anything, but
26:25
Speaker 1: somehow he started inventing all this navigational equipment for the
26:29
Speaker 1: Navy and for private people that have ships and everything.
26:34
Speaker 1: And he's literally made like, within five years of retiring
26:38
Speaker 1: from the Navy, he was a billionaire. And I knew
26:40
Speaker 1: his daughter. She used to tell me I'm going to
26:42
Speaker 1: make a one hundred million dollars when my dad dies,
26:45
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, I'm going to follow this one.
26:48
Speaker 1: So I kept following it, and then finally her dad died,
26:52
Speaker 1: and about a year later I saw her after her
26:56
Speaker 1: dad died and I said, so, how much money did
26:58
Speaker 1: you get? And she didn't and really sour look on
27:01
Speaker 1: her face. I said, wait a minute, did you get
27:03
Speaker 1: your one hundred million dollars that you were going to
27:05
Speaker 1: get from your dad's great inventions? And she looks at
27:09
Speaker 1: he goes, well, oh, I got a couple hundred thousand
27:11
Speaker 1: so far.
27:12
Speaker 2: I'm like what.
27:14
Speaker 1: And still to this day, ten years since he died,
27:18
Speaker 1: she's only gotten like under a million dollars, right, and
27:23
Speaker 1: all of his money's gone, It's gone. I asked her
27:26
Speaker 1: where is all the money? She said, she told me directly,
27:29
Speaker 1: the CIA took it I'm like, oh my god, and
27:35
Speaker 1: I said, you're probably right. They probably did, and but
27:38
Speaker 1: they take it back. I think that I don't want
27:42
Speaker 1: to cast dis versions on Steve Jobs. He's a brilliant guy.
27:45
Speaker 1: But I think the iPad actually is actually that. I
27:49
Speaker 1: think the MAC is actually that. I think the MAC
27:53
Speaker 1: and the iPad were invented for the secret space program,
27:57
Speaker 1: some kind of military operation, and then they finally so, oh,
28:00
Speaker 1: let's put it out. We'll make a whole bunch of
28:02
Speaker 1: money Steve Jobs and kick back millions back to us.
28:05
Speaker 1: And I think that's how it works. I don't know
28:07
Speaker 1: how much Steve Jobs actually had in his bank account
28:11
Speaker 1: when he died. You know, he might have been one
28:15
Speaker 1: of them too, by the way, he might have been
28:17
Speaker 1: a gate a gator.
28:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way that it seems like it's shaping up.
28:23
Speaker 2: And even with the Hemi Sinh technology and the Gateway
28:28
Speaker 2: tapes in the Monroe Institute, it almost seems like the
28:32
Speaker 2: Robert Monroe didn't really invent it, that he was given
28:38
Speaker 2: the technology.
28:40
Speaker 1: We know the institute was cia frant We built that
28:44
Speaker 1: for years, so I mean, we know it. It's not
28:48
Speaker 1: a secret. We looked at the board members like fifteen
28:51
Speaker 1: years ago, and they were all CIA, all of them.
28:56
Speaker 1: So he Monroe's always been kind of a compromised institute,
29:00
Speaker 1: I think.
29:01
Speaker 2: But I don't have anything bad to say about him.
29:03
Speaker 2: I literally watched so much of his interviews just to
29:08
Speaker 2: get the clips for the documentary, and he seemed like
29:11
Speaker 2: he was a very genuine person that was really interested
29:16
Speaker 2: in a lot of this stuff. So I'm not trying
29:19
Speaker 2: to be disparaging toward the Monroe Institute, but it does
29:25
Speaker 2: seem like that Andrija Puharag had a hand in a
29:30
Speaker 2: lot of those documents, and he might have been the
29:32
Speaker 2: one that kind of pushed Monroe in this direction to then,
29:38
Speaker 2: you know, bring this technology to the public. There's a
29:44
Speaker 2: lot of different ways that you can because when you
29:47
Speaker 2: think about it, they're taking kids in there essentially drugging them. Again,
29:52
Speaker 2: we don't know with what exact drugs, but it's a
29:55
Speaker 2: strange substance. Every child that remembers taking this sort of drink.
30:01
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's different colors. Sometimes it's an orange drink, sometimes
30:04
Speaker 2: it's a pink drink. Sometimes it's different. But they're all
30:08
Speaker 2: told that the substance and the reason that they're taking
30:12
Speaker 2: it is for a different reason. Some people were told
30:15
Speaker 2: that it was vitamins. Other people were told that it
30:20
Speaker 2: was like a liquid vaccine. Other people were told that
30:24
Speaker 2: it was asthma medication. But regardless, they were told to
30:30
Speaker 2: take it. So when you think of they're drugging these
30:33
Speaker 2: these kids, a lot of people remember like three D glasses,
30:39
Speaker 2: having to put on a set of three D glasses,
30:42
Speaker 2: and that would be to try and induce and bring
30:47
Speaker 2: out these psychic abilities and get you outside of your
30:50
Speaker 2: body faster, because think about it, if you're drugged and
30:52
Speaker 2: then you have these headphones on your head that induce
30:57
Speaker 2: them out of body experience, the best way to do
31:00
Speaker 2: that on top of the drugs would be to put
31:02
Speaker 2: some three D type of glasses on the kind of
31:06
Speaker 2: blurry your vision and make doubles of everything. They remember
31:10
Speaker 2: the flash cards, and you can essentially do this with
31:14
Speaker 2: taking a set of ping pong balls, well just one
31:17
Speaker 2: ping pong ball, and cutting the ping pong ball in
31:20
Speaker 2: half and then taping them to your eyelids and then
31:24
Speaker 2: taking a bright red light and shining it on your face.
31:28
Speaker 2: And people that have done this for a long period
31:31
Speaker 2: of time experience visions, they see things, they tend to hallucinate.
31:39
Speaker 2: So then if you couple that on with taking some
31:42
Speaker 2: sort of hallucinogenic drug, you're really going to You're really
31:47
Speaker 2: going to be in there, you know. And that experiment
31:51
Speaker 2: is very real. It's called the Handsfeld experiment. Dean Raiding
31:56
Speaker 2: that was just on. Joe Rogan talked about this and
31:59
Speaker 2: how children are tend to be more psychic, and even
32:04
Speaker 2: in the documents that we show in the movie A
32:09
Speaker 2: Psychic Agent, the Gate program says that children are more
32:14
Speaker 2: psychic than adults. They tend to no more, they tend
32:19
Speaker 2: to be more open to the psychic phenomena and it
32:22
Speaker 2: can predict things better than adults do or even teenagers do.
32:27
Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. I was definitely more psychic when I
32:29
Speaker 1: was a little kid than I am now. Actually was
32:33
Speaker 1: actually scaring me. I know something was going to happen
32:36
Speaker 1: before it happened, and I'd be warning my dad to
32:39
Speaker 1: watch out while we're driving. All of a sudden we
32:42
Speaker 1: see a semi crash, right, and but it did afterrophee
32:47
Speaker 1: a little bit. As I age, although lately it seems
32:50
Speaker 1: like my ability is increasing. I'm not sure what's going
32:55
Speaker 1: on here. I've been told by a bunch of people
32:58
Speaker 1: that it's everybody. He's getting more psychic right now. So
33:02
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I can definitely admit
33:05
Speaker 1: that I am. I'm having incredible experiences and sometimes I
33:10
Speaker 1: just don't understand how I'm doing it. But so, where
33:16
Speaker 1: do you think we are now with all this?
33:19
Speaker 2: You know, I heard.
33:21
Speaker 1: I heard a guy he was in the Gate program,
33:24
Speaker 1: I think it was on YouTube, and he told me,
33:28
Speaker 1: or he told the audience that the whole purpose of
33:33
Speaker 1: the of the program was to get in communication with
33:38
Speaker 1: non human intelligence. Did you hear anything like that?
33:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of the goal of the Monroe Institute
33:49
Speaker 2: technology was to get outside of your body and talk
33:54
Speaker 2: with non human entities. I mean, Robert Monroe talked about
33:59
Speaker 2: doing all the time.
34:02
Speaker 1: All the time.
34:03
Speaker 2: He would literally every time that he would get outside
34:06
Speaker 2: of his body, and then he would take that information
34:09
Speaker 2: that the entity gave him, This non human promorphic entity
34:16
Speaker 2: would tell him all this stuff, and then he would
34:18
Speaker 2: come back and he would write it down. And that's
34:20
Speaker 2: how he wrote a lot of his books. These entities
34:24
Speaker 2: were just giving him information. I mean, it's really fat.
34:28
Speaker 2: I sat down and I listened to an eight hour
34:32
Speaker 2: presentation of Robert Monroe talking about all this stuff and
34:36
Speaker 2: it's actually really incredible, and he's talking about you know,
34:40
Speaker 2: reincarnation and essentially, you know, becoming, giving a version of
34:48
Speaker 2: God yourself and creating your own reality and your own planning.
34:54
Speaker 2: And he said that he went back home and then
34:57
Speaker 2: whenever he that's all that he wanted to do is
35:00
Speaker 2: like go back home. And we've had this long, long
35:03
Speaker 2: instance of us thinking that we don't belong here and
35:08
Speaker 2: that this place is in our home and that was
35:11
Speaker 2: basically his goal. And he talks about this in a
35:13
Speaker 2: lot of his interviews. He's like, I just want to
35:15
Speaker 2: go back home, and that's what he would talk with
35:16
Speaker 2: these entities about, like how do I get back home?
35:20
Speaker 2: And finally he got back home to where he was from,
35:27
Speaker 2: and he realized that everything was just being played on
35:29
Speaker 2: a loop. You know. Yes, it was beautiful and it
35:35
Speaker 2: was majestic, and he was essentially laying on a cloud
35:39
Speaker 2: and beautiful music was playing and these beautiful entities were
35:44
Speaker 2: all around him playing music twenty four to seven. He
35:47
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, this is great. But he said after
35:49
Speaker 2: being there for a few hours, he was like, is
35:52
Speaker 2: this all that it is? It's just this on a
35:55
Speaker 2: freaking loop over and over.
35:59
Speaker 1: That's what caused you to reincarnate.
36:02
Speaker 2: Because there's nothing else out there.
36:04
Speaker 1: It's just boring. I mean, you know, it's like so
36:09
Speaker 1: it's what it really is is there's two plasma clouds
36:14
Speaker 1: right out of the L five region, right outside the
36:18
Speaker 1: Earth or each they're called the Kordleski clouds. There are
36:21
Speaker 1: ten times bigger than the planet Earth. There's two of
36:25
Speaker 1: them and they're right next to each other. And I
36:31
Speaker 1: don't think that there's any planets anywhere that we've seen
36:34
Speaker 1: that have there's no planets that we've seen that have
36:42
Speaker 1: any plasma clouds around him, and so I think that's
36:45
Speaker 1: really where he goes and where people go in the
36:48
Speaker 1: afterlife and where they go with astral travel. And there's
36:51
Speaker 1: like planes of existence, just like Monroe says, right, there's
36:55
Speaker 1: a lower planes and higher plane, and each plane has
36:58
Speaker 1: got like a different arc texture, different music, different activity.
37:04
Speaker 1: And the lower ones are the loopy ones. The lower
37:07
Speaker 1: planes or where you're just looping. So the higher planes
37:12
Speaker 1: you're not looping as much. But the reason that you're
37:15
Speaker 1: looping in the lower planes. He didn't die, I got
37:18
Speaker 1: to say when he did this. He was just asked
37:20
Speaker 1: for projecting. So, but if you die and you're caught
37:24
Speaker 1: in the lower planes, it's because you didn't learn the
37:31
Speaker 1: right lessons that you were supposed to learn in your hair,
37:34
Speaker 1: and so they loop you so that you learn your lessons.
37:38
Speaker 1: If you do learn most of the lessons that you're
37:40
Speaker 1: supposed to learn here, then you get to go to
37:42
Speaker 1: the upper planes. The whole goal, of course, is to
37:46
Speaker 1: not go at all. It's a break free of reincarnation
37:49
Speaker 1: and the cycle of it, which is extremely difficult. It
37:52
Speaker 1: takes a lot of spiritual discipline and meditation. But that's
37:58
Speaker 1: the other thing I've been thinking about since I watched
38:00
Speaker 1: the film again the other day, is what is the
38:05
Speaker 1: spiritual ramifications of the Gate Program? You know, how how
38:11
Speaker 1: does this affect these kids' future spirituality? I mean, I've
38:15
Speaker 1: known the rejects, the ones that rejected the whole thing,
38:19
Speaker 1: and they're very spiritual people. Uh, but I don't know,
38:24
Speaker 1: you know the ones that got through that were, you know,
38:28
Speaker 1: with it, that wanted to do it. Charlie Kirk was
38:31
Speaker 1: in it, and he was a very spiritual person. So
38:35
Speaker 1: maybe it does create spiritual people, but you think it
38:39
Speaker 1: would also create spiritual wrecks, and it's just people that
38:43
Speaker 1: are just racked.
38:45
Speaker 2: Ye are the people that don't know what it is
38:48
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to be doing with their life there
38:52
Speaker 2: and like a really weird state Whi's then you know,
38:56
Speaker 2: brings them to this, uh, this this downfall of their life.
39:00
Speaker 2: They get involved in miscellaneous activity things that is not
39:07
Speaker 2: good for them spiritually. And I think that that's a
39:10
Speaker 2: really good question. I mean, we would have to do
39:12
Speaker 2: some kind of but I'm willing to bet if you
39:16
Speaker 2: were to do like a poll, because the issue is here, Jay,
39:21
Speaker 2: is that the people that actually made it through the program,
39:26
Speaker 2: that are in a not even that. It doesn't even
39:32
Speaker 2: have to be a high position of power. It doesn't
39:34
Speaker 2: even have to be the leader of a giant Cortney
39:36
Speaker 2: could literally be your freaking mailman. I think we might
39:41
Speaker 2: have a grandios idea of what might be actually going
39:47
Speaker 2: on here when it can be as simple as just
39:52
Speaker 2: a post office worker.
39:57
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
39:57
Speaker 2: It can literally be that simple. The post office worker
40:02
Speaker 2: could be a government agent from the gate pro You
40:08
Speaker 2: just never know, right, Yeah, That's been the plan from
40:11
Speaker 2: the entire is to infiltrate into every aspect of reality.
40:16
Speaker 2: And the thing is is these people don't know what
40:19
Speaker 2: it is that they are either. And that's the problem
40:23
Speaker 2: with the people that made it through that are in
40:26
Speaker 2: the high up versions of this. They don't really care
40:30
Speaker 2: about any of this, right, They don't care about what
40:33
Speaker 2: they went through as because they're successful in their life
40:37
Speaker 2: and they have money and they've kind of been pushed
40:40
Speaker 2: in this direction. And that's what Charlie Kirk was starting
40:42
Speaker 2: to figure out towards the end, You're starting to figure
40:45
Speaker 2: out that, holy shit, what is actually going on here?
40:48
Speaker 2: Is my entire life been pre programmed for me? Have
40:52
Speaker 2: I been pre programmed and destined for this by and
40:57
Speaker 2: selected to do this? And that's one what I believe
41:02
Speaker 2: was going on with him there toward the end, he
41:05
Speaker 2: was realizing that his entire life was pre arranged and
41:10
Speaker 2: essentially predetermined for him by a group of people.
41:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was on Jesse Venture's Conspiracy Theory show in
41:21
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. He flew me out to Denver
41:24
Speaker 1: because we did a tour of Denver Airport. I gave
41:26
Speaker 1: him a tour of Denver Airport. It was it was
41:29
Speaker 1: really fun and at one point I think we were
41:32
Speaker 1: at lunch, and he said that when he got elected
41:36
Speaker 1: to be governor of Minnesota, he only won with thirty
41:40
Speaker 1: five percent, but there was two other candidates, so they
41:43
Speaker 1: split it. He barely won. It was his first day
41:47
Speaker 1: in office as governor. He had a street up on
41:49
Speaker 1: the table and he smoking a cigar, probably had a
41:53
Speaker 1: brand with him, thinking even on the top of the world,
41:55
Speaker 1: and I'm a governor man. And all of a sudden,
41:58
Speaker 1: this little dwie Bok, little short guy, he says, Governor,
42:04
Speaker 1: you're wanted in a meeting down in the basement. He's
42:07
Speaker 1: like what, So he follows the guy that go down
42:09
Speaker 1: into the basement. This is what Jesse told them, And
42:12
Speaker 1: he goes down. There's this big room with this big,
42:15
Speaker 1: huge oval table. There's like forty people around this table.
42:20
Speaker 1: And he's like, look, He's like, what the hell's going on?
42:24
Speaker 1: And the little tweevy guy goes, uh, well, Jesse, this
42:28
Speaker 1: is the local CIA for Minneapolis and Saint Paul. And
42:34
Speaker 1: he's like, well, that can't be because the CIA is charters.
42:37
Speaker 1: They can't do anything domestically. The whole table broke out laughing,
42:41
Speaker 1: and he said there were post office workers and nuns, ups, drivers,
42:49
Speaker 1: they'd be really important to have, by the way, he
42:53
Speaker 1: said everyone he said none, He said, what was a
42:56
Speaker 1: nun You couldn't believe it? And they sat down at
42:59
Speaker 1: the head of it, and each one interrogated him for
43:04
Speaker 1: eight hours, and he was told by each one of
43:08
Speaker 1: the people what you're going to do over the next
43:12
Speaker 1: four years, and what you're not going to do over
43:15
Speaker 1: the next four years, and if you get out of line, well,
43:19
Speaker 1: you know, we want your kids to go to college.
43:22
Speaker 1: So you know, he says, like what and he said,
43:25
Speaker 1: told me that. He said, within twenty minutes of sitting
43:29
Speaker 1: down in that chair and having those people talk to
43:31
Speaker 1: me like that, I said, I am never running for
43:34
Speaker 1: office again. And he never did, so I know you're right,
43:38
Speaker 1: and that's you know, he learned a lot, and he
43:41
Speaker 1: learned that everywhere he went, and they wanted him to
43:45
Speaker 1: know that too, by the way. That's why they did it.
43:49
Speaker 2: Exactly. And then when you start to try and break
43:53
Speaker 2: away from that, I mean we see a lot of
43:56
Speaker 2: instance with that with you know, with Charlie Kirk, and
44:01
Speaker 2: they'll essentially try and completely take away your funding, take
44:06
Speaker 2: away your career character. Assassin h you make you look
44:11
Speaker 2: like that you're not an accurate trying to ruin your
44:15
Speaker 2: credibility and essentially destroy you to try and then but
44:19
Speaker 2: now the version of that is just to hire a
44:21
Speaker 2: bunch of bots. They'll just get a bunch of bots
44:25
Speaker 2: online to get on there and talk shit and attack
44:30
Speaker 2: you for absolutely no reason. That's the new version of
44:34
Speaker 2: what they were doing before.
44:37
Speaker 1: They're doing that on X right now with canvae Oh,
44:40
Speaker 1: and she's just getting absolutely slammed by people have never
44:45
Speaker 1: heard that before, so they seem to have a voice.
44:49
Speaker 1: It gets heard. But you remember the remember the journalist
44:54
Speaker 1: who crashed into the palm tree in La doing one
44:59
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty mi an hour about ten years ago.
45:02
Speaker 1: He was on top of some really important subject and
45:05
Speaker 1: he called up I think his girlfriend said I've got it.
45:08
Speaker 1: I got to do this interview and then I've got
45:10
Speaker 1: the story of the century. And then like five minutes later,
45:14
Speaker 1: it's like they took control of his car right and
45:16
Speaker 1: they just slammed it into a tree. And it was
45:19
Speaker 1: an expensive car too, I think it was a Lamborghini.
45:22
Speaker 1: And so that's what they can do to you if
45:25
Speaker 1: you get out of line, and they want you to
45:28
Speaker 1: know that they can do that. To you. So, you know,
45:31
Speaker 1: you did really brave work here with this film. I
45:34
Speaker 1: just really appreciate the effort that you made, and I
45:38
Speaker 1: think it's going to do really well, to be honest
45:40
Speaker 1: with you.
45:42
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you look at the that's the
45:43
Speaker 2: same type of story with the Danny Castlero murders as well.
45:48
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he was on top of a
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Speaker 2: story called it the Web, the Web of the Octopus
45:54
Speaker 2: or the you know, the Giant Octopus that involved this
45:58
Speaker 2: black Budgets CIA operation that was running off of Indian
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Speaker 2: reservations that essentially started all this casino stuff that was
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Speaker 2: in the human trafficking, guns, trafficking, money laundering that was
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Speaker 2: responsible for all these different people. And then he ends
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Speaker 2: up dead and he was going to do a final
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Speaker 2: interview with the person that was going to put all
46:21
Speaker 2: this stuff together with him for him in West Virginia,
46:24
Speaker 2: and then he ends up dead. You know a lot
46:26
Speaker 2: of these people that they just died really weird and
46:33
Speaker 2: strange circumstances that make absolutely no sense, and they end
46:38
Speaker 2: up getting taken out in some kind of way because
46:42
Speaker 2: they've known too much or they were onto something, and
46:46
Speaker 2: then they just they just get wiped off of the
46:48
Speaker 2: board because that's the easiest way to really do it,
46:52
Speaker 2: and then you make them look like, oh, well, they
46:54
Speaker 2: hated their life, they were depressed, they were a drug addict.
46:57
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people have we seen that have
46:59
Speaker 2: just overdosed on drugs unexplainably, that did not have a
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Speaker 2: prior history or have any kind of drug use issues.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really true. The guy who wrote back in
47:16
Speaker 1: two thousand. Yeah, back in two thousand, a guy wrote
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Speaker 1: a book called Fortunate Son, a biography of George W. Bush,
47:25
Speaker 1: and it was a nasty, nasty book. About three weeks
47:30
Speaker 1: after he got published, he committed suicide. Over and over again.
47:35
Speaker 1: You follow these stories and they like to do suicides,
47:40
Speaker 1: and you know, because that's what you would do after
47:43
Speaker 1: you got your book published, after you worked really hard
47:46
Speaker 1: to publish and write a book, and that you kill
47:49
Speaker 1: yourself after he got published, because now you're going to
47:51
Speaker 1: reap the rewards of all your hard work. So that's
47:54
Speaker 1: when you would take your life. So they're you know,
47:58
Speaker 1: that's what they do. And I guess what we should
48:03
Speaker 1: do is it's just on our guard for what's going
48:08
Speaker 1: on in this world right now. It's not good. So
48:11
Speaker 1: writer I really appreciate you making this movie. I am
48:14
Speaker 1: the executive producer, folks, you know, and I'm also in it.
48:20
Speaker 1: I really like the movie. I really think it's revolutionary.
48:23
Speaker 1: I love your filmmaking style, and wow, you got any
48:29
Speaker 1: ideas what you're gonna do next?
48:32
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to do something on Charlie Kirk
48:38
Speaker 2: and the investigation around Charlie Kirk is It's just it
48:41
Speaker 2: gets so so ridiculously deep, and things are changing on
48:46
Speaker 2: it every single day. We're finding out new information, and
48:50
Speaker 2: I would really like to put together a comprehensive timeline
48:56
Speaker 2: of events, which is really a big undertaking. I mean,
49:01
Speaker 2: I thought that this movie was a big undertaking. I
49:05
Speaker 2: mean every movie kind of gets that I do, gets
49:10
Speaker 2: more difficult to put together and keep track of and
49:16
Speaker 2: try and make all the pieces fit. But that's one
49:18
Speaker 2: of the things that I love most about making a
49:21
Speaker 2: movie is is the editing process and watching the entire
49:25
Speaker 2: thing come together, because you get to see it come
49:27
Speaker 2: together right before your very eyes, and you get those
49:30
Speaker 2: chills when you're watching it and you're like, oh, yeah,
49:32
Speaker 2: this is then I'm gonna put this here. Then I'm
49:34
Speaker 2: gonna put that there. But it just takes a lot
49:36
Speaker 2: of time and effort and watching everything over and over
49:39
Speaker 2: and over again and knowing exactly what you have and
49:43
Speaker 2: being able to inter exchange those clips to try and
49:46
Speaker 2: make the whole thing makes sense and which is one
49:51
Speaker 2: of my favorite parts of filmmaking. And there's a lot
49:54
Speaker 2: of things within the movie that you're gonna have to remember.
49:59
Speaker 1: Okay, your film has to be watched three times.
50:04
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, you gotta watch it a lot. And
50:09
Speaker 2: there's things that that are really important because I'm just
50:12
Speaker 2: not one of these people that like to repeat things
50:16
Speaker 2: twenty times. That's what I do not like about movies.
50:19
Speaker 2: I don't like all the exposition and over explaining in
50:24
Speaker 2: every single scene. Right, So you really have to sit
50:27
Speaker 2: down and pay attention and remember and connect a lot
50:30
Speaker 2: of the dots on your own and put them together
50:35
Speaker 2: on your own. Because everything is there, it all makes sense.
50:40
Speaker 2: You just have to kind of put it together yourself.
50:43
Speaker 2: And that's the best type of filmmaking that I really
50:47
Speaker 2: love is when not everything is given to you. I
50:51
Speaker 2: mean it's given to you, but it's not given to
50:53
Speaker 2: you all in one amazing You're not reminded of it
50:58
Speaker 2: every ten minutes, right, You don't have an exposition and
51:01
Speaker 2: re explaining the thing that you just explained.
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Speaker 1: It's called respect for the intelligence of the viewer. Right.
51:07
Speaker 1: People that repeat repeat, well, they're thinking that you're a
51:10
Speaker 1: big dummy and they have to repeat it all the time.
51:12
Speaker 1: You don't do that, and I would I actually wouldn't
51:15
Speaker 1: like the film because I hate films that do that.
51:18
Speaker 1: But your film doesn't do that. It's a it's a
51:22
Speaker 1: novel moment. Every minute for the whole entire time that
51:25
Speaker 1: you're watching it, you're learning something constantly. Your visuals are great,
51:29
Speaker 1: your music is great, the guests are great. So I
51:34
Speaker 1: read it. It's a good film. Speaking of film, I've
51:37
Speaker 1: got good news that I'm making. The Invisible Universe will
51:44
Speaker 1: be out probably within six weeks. They're making it into
51:47
Speaker 1: two ninety minute films, no longer making it into a series.
51:53
Speaker 1: I heard that that was just the death to your
51:57
Speaker 1: film if you do that. So I'm not doing that.
51:59
Speaker 1: But we are putting out two ninety minute films. It
52:01
Speaker 1: should be both out before the end of the year.
52:04
Speaker 1: And then, folks, I'm going to have my entire filmography
52:09
Speaker 1: up on Amazon and I'm going to own it for
52:12
Speaker 1: the first time since I sold it off to Gaia.
52:16
Speaker 1: I'm getting it all back from Guya, so I'll have
52:19
Speaker 1: Cubic's Odyssey one, two, and three. You can watch all
52:22
Speaker 1: three together for the first time. And arn't mind with
52:26
Speaker 1: Alex Gray healing the lum in his Body, Infinity, The
52:30
Speaker 1: Ultimate Trip, my film with Greg Braden. They're all coming
52:36
Speaker 1: out and they're going to come out under Cute Brick Productions,
52:39
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy about that one. And because I'm
52:44
Speaker 1: sure that Guya has made millions of dollars off my
52:49
Speaker 1: films anyway.
52:51
Speaker 2: They've had him for a long time. How long have
52:53
Speaker 2: they had him for the.
52:55
Speaker 1: Fourteen years yep ensince January fourteen years they had so
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Speaker 1: it's probably triple maybe three or four million.
53:06
Speaker 2: I might know.
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Speaker 1: They were always world My films were always in the
53:10
Speaker 1: top like one hundred, right, all of my films were
53:15
Speaker 1: always in the top hundred A guy at because I
53:17
Speaker 1: was ahead of acquisition, so I get to see the
53:20
Speaker 1: list every year. I said, oh, yeah, yeah, my.
53:22
Speaker 2: Film from I made ten years ago. It was still
53:27
Speaker 2: off pacing everything you sell it.
53:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, that's a great thing about documentaries. If you
53:34
Speaker 1: don't make them time related, like you don't, then they're
53:38
Speaker 1: they're timeless, so you can watch it ten years from
53:41
Speaker 1: now and get the same thing out of it. So
53:42
Speaker 1: that's what's so great about it. Anyway, writer, your film
53:47
Speaker 1: is up on Amazon and YouTube and probably soon will
53:51
Speaker 1: be on to me and Apple TV, we hope. But
53:56
Speaker 1: nothing is really gonna happen until you got it up,
53:59
Speaker 1: and you just got it up today, so you can't
54:01
Speaker 1: really expect anyone to see it until it's up. Now
54:04
Speaker 1: they'll take it. So it's really good and I congratulate
54:08
Speaker 1: you on a job well done.
54:11
Speaker 2: Thank you very much today. Really appreciate it. And uh,
54:13
Speaker 2: check the link in the description watch my movie. Jay
54:16
Speaker 2: is in it. Walter Bosley is also in a Katie
54:19
Speaker 2: Page is in it. Verified Army Intelligence, the IA remote
54:22
Speaker 2: viewers are in it. Limb Buchannon, Angela Ford, the director
54:27
Speaker 2: and operations manager of the Storegate unit himself Dell Graph.
54:32
Speaker 2: He's the one that coined the term stargate for the
54:34
Speaker 2: remote viewing unit. Please give it a watch, give it
54:38
Speaker 2: a listen, and uh, you know, carve out that time
54:41
Speaker 2: of your day and sit down for around two hours
54:44
Speaker 2: and uh, and I think that you're really going to
54:47
Speaker 2: enjoy it. And I think that you're really going to
54:49
Speaker 2: learn something and leave a review and a rating on
54:54
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime after you've watched it, and and be honest
54:58
Speaker 2: about it. I'm always about good and honest feedback. If
55:01
Speaker 2: it's you know, conducive to you know what we're doing.
55:07
Speaker 2: So thank you guys very much, really appreciate it.
55:10
Speaker 1: Any money out theres and wants to find his Charlie
55:13
Speaker 1: Kirk movie, contact me in the comments and I will
55:17
Speaker 1: definitely get in contact with you. We could use any
55:19
Speaker 1: help we can because we want to get Writer's career
55:23
Speaker 1: going even faster. And I put the trailer up on
55:28
Speaker 1: Reality Check. So go up there and watch the trailer
55:31
Speaker 1: for the film. And thanks Writer, Thanks Jane, appreciate you.
55:36
Speaker 1: Segment three this evening is titled The Children and the CIA.
55:41
Speaker 1: Tonight we'll learn of the agency's interest in children. Part
55:44
Speaker 1: of the gate program where I was pulled out of
55:47
Speaker 1: the room by a guy in a suit.
55:50
Speaker 2: I went in and did like the different tones in
55:54
Speaker 2: the leftier tones and the right ear different, you know,
55:56
Speaker 2: raising your hand in.
55:59
Speaker 1: The weird things they had kids do is the strange liquid,
56:04
Speaker 1: that weird.
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Speaker 2: Pink drink, that pink drink that you're always shoving down.
56:09
Speaker 1: So to really understand what I'm talking about, you have
56:11
Speaker 1: to go back to nineteen fifty eight. It's a spotneck.
56:14
Speaker 2: Nineteen fifty eight marked the first time government became involved
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Speaker 2: with public school. With this new policy came identifying gifted
56:24
Speaker 2: and talented children.
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Speaker 1: Who's gifted, who's talented, and taking them out and giving
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Speaker 1: them different education. What that different education is cuts back
56:35
Speaker 1: to the Monroe Institute. You should be hearing my voice
56:39
Speaker 1: in your.
56:40
Speaker 2: Right ear until I heard those Gateway tapes and I
56:42
Speaker 2: was like, WHOA, this is very very similar.
56:46
Speaker 1: Whose gate programs are grooming people to take roles in society? Entertainers,
56:53
Speaker 1: corporate owners, Politicians.
56:56
Speaker 2: Discussed the fact that Charlie was indeed a gifted child
56:59
Speaker 2: who went to a literal children's at school for the gifted.
57:03
Speaker 2: But they're looking at you long before that.
57:06
Speaker 1: They are looking at you from childhood.
57:09
Speaker 2: The Thuds have a record file on every single child
57:14
Speaker 2: from preschool to your career.
57:17
Speaker 1: Your Laxation program by Thomas H. Bodinski, PhD. Here they are,
57:23
Speaker 1: Could they and would they have just advanced to making.
57:28
Speaker 2: Psychics like testing for esp abilities.
57:36
Speaker 1: You could go to scary places with that.
57:38
Speaker 2: Do you know anybody else that has these days.
57:41
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know anybody else in the program.
57:44
Speaker 2: You know, they have a front for a front for
57:46
Speaker 2: a front, So what are they covering up?
57:51
Speaker 1: Could have been.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're not crazy. The government really was doing psychic
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Speaker 2: testing on children, and I am going to prove it.
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Speaker 1: H you're finally starting out. Remember you should be hearing
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Speaker 1: my voice. You should be hearing my voice. You should
58:23
Speaker 1: be hearing my voice. In your right ear the Gate
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Speaker 1: program m.