Latest / I Do, Part 2 / The Congressman Vs. The Senator’s Daughter
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, it is Friday, May fifteenth. Then woo.
- 0:05Speaker 1: We know divorce can be ugly, but divorce DC style
- 0:11Speaker 1: is something else. And with that, welcome to this episode
- 0:13Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ where we have a divorce that
- 0:15Speaker 1: pits a congressman against a senator's daughter. Yes, we've got
- 0:20Speaker 1: the House versus the Senate almost and these are sitting
- 0:24Speaker 1: active members of Congress we're talking about, and a divorce
- 0:28Speaker 1: and a daughter in the middle, and serious robes, we
- 0:31Speaker 1: should say. It's very serious allegations.
- 0:33Speaker 2: There are, yes, and this could be race altering allegations
- 0:38Speaker 2: that are taking place because the congressman in question is
- 0:41Speaker 2: up for reelection midterms this year and so he is
- 0:45Speaker 2: especially bent out of shape that allegations are being hurled
- 0:49Speaker 2: at him by a senator's daughter. Yes, their divorce may
- 0:53Speaker 2: have been finalized, but their custody arrangement.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Hasn't and that is part of the issue.
- 0:59Speaker 1: And they have been fighting. Now, this is a pretty
- 1:01Speaker 1: quick robes and her name is Emily Moreno, but there
- 1:04Speaker 1: was a pretty quick situation for them. Married in twenty
- 1:07Speaker 1: twenty two, had a baby in twenty twenty three. He
- 1:11Speaker 1: files for divorce in twenty twenty four, they're divorced by
- 1:14Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and here in twenty twenty six, he
- 1:18Speaker 1: has now filed a defamation suit against his ex wife Rhodes.
- 1:23Speaker 1: How do we go from love to defamation suits in
- 1:25Speaker 1: four years?
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been quick, and it's been it's been
- 1:28Speaker 2: fast and furious. As they say, we're talking about Ohio
- 1:31Speaker 2: Congressman Max Miller. He's a second term congressman trying to
- 1:35Speaker 2: be reelected for his third term. And yeah, you could
- 1:38Speaker 2: say that things have escalated between him and his ex wife,
- 1:42Speaker 2: Emily Moreno. They she is, by the way, the daughter
- 1:46Speaker 2: of Senator Bernie Moreno. I actually that was not a
- 1:48Speaker 2: name that was super familiar to me. He is a
- 1:50Speaker 2: first term senator. He notably is backed by President Trump,
- 1:56Speaker 2: and some would say because of that beat the Democratic
- 1:59Speaker 2: incumbent Shared Brown a Shrod Brown. So that certainly is
- 2:03Speaker 2: a name most of us are familiar with. And Ohio
- 2:05Speaker 2: we talking about, even though I just mispronounced his name.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Sure, yes, he's making a comeback right now. Actually, but yes,
- 2:10Speaker 1: this is in all important Ohio. But he's not one
- 2:13Speaker 1: of the more high profile members of the Senate, but
- 2:16Speaker 1: still very important state, very important senator, they all are.
- 2:19Speaker 1: But yes, it's his daughter that we're talking about.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yes, And so what we have is Congressman Miller filing
- 2:25Speaker 2: this defamation lawsuit this week, and its cites that he
- 2:29Speaker 2: has suffered considerable reputational and financial harm that was caused
- 2:36Speaker 2: to him by his ex wife's accusations that he was
- 2:40Speaker 2: quote a violent and abusive husband and father.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Rogues, you can't get any worse than that in accusations
- 2:47Speaker 1: of a guy who puts himself out to his community
- 2:49Speaker 1: as a man and as a as a man, a
- 2:53Speaker 1: family man. So even if you lose the wife, they'll
- 2:56Speaker 1: still forgive you, but they don't want to hear your
- 2:58Speaker 1: bad father as well. So drove damning of an accusation
- 3:02Speaker 1: that a politician can get. So, yes, he's coming out swinging.
- 3:05Speaker 2: He certainly is, and he is alleging that his ex wife,
- 3:08Speaker 2: along with her attorney and her law firm, spread knowingly
- 3:14Speaker 2: false information about him to media outlets. And he names
- 3:18Speaker 2: the tabloids that we are all too familiar with, and
- 3:22Speaker 2: he says that yes, they just printed verbatim whatever Emily
- 3:28Speaker 2: Moreno and her attorneys told these tabloids which would not
- 3:31Speaker 2: be shocking and just wrote it as if it were true,
- 3:34Speaker 2: and that has undermined his chances of reelection, although he
- 3:38Speaker 2: just won his primary and he is the front runner
- 3:41Speaker 2: by the way right now. But he says he suffered
- 3:43Speaker 2: actual damages in the form of lost business opportunities reduced
- 3:47Speaker 2: campaign contributions that he says he can show from the
- 3:50Speaker 2: time the allegations were made to reduce campaign contributions, and
- 3:54Speaker 2: he needs those to help with his reelection campaign to Congress.
- 3:57Speaker 1: He's being accused of being an abuser. Yeah, he's being
- 4:00Speaker 1: accused of being a criminal. He's being accused of beating
- 4:02Speaker 1: on a woman. He's accused of beating on his wife.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Is very serious, Yeah, very specifically, he's accused of throwing
- 4:09Speaker 2: boiling water on her.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Okay, that's ugly. Yes, he's denying all of this. We
- 4:15Speaker 1: should make sure we say now he's denying it all,
- 4:17Speaker 1: But that stuff gets out there wades, and it's hard
- 4:19Speaker 1: to unring ned bell as we know.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Yes, so, she Emily Moreno has made several allegations. But yes,
- 4:26Speaker 2: one of the more notable ones, and the more recent one,
- 4:29Speaker 2: is that he threw boiling water at her.
- 4:32Speaker 3: He denies it.
- 4:33Speaker 2: And she claims she even and she sent this out
- 4:35Speaker 2: and it was published by some of these tabloids. This
- 4:38Speaker 2: alleged handwritten apology note that she claims he wrote to
- 4:42Speaker 2: her after he did this. But in his lawsuit, Congressman
- 4:46Speaker 2: Miller says he has never hurled boiling water on moreno
- 4:49Speaker 2: or otherwise battered her, nor has he ever apologized for
- 4:53Speaker 2: such acts that he never committed.
- 4:56Speaker 3: That is what his lawsuit states. But she has been
- 4:59Speaker 3: documenting what she claims.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Are bruises, red marks, burns, and selfies, and she's gave
- 5:07Speaker 2: those pictures to the outlets, and she says those show
- 5:11Speaker 2: and prove that she has been physically abused by her
- 5:15Speaker 2: ex husband.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Uh oh props. They said, this is a reckoning for
- 5:20Speaker 1: Congress here lately with swallwell and how many other resignations
- 5:24Speaker 1: did we see? They can't remember the guy from Texas
- 5:26Speaker 1: right now, already forgot his name, the congress one from Gonzales, Florida,
- 5:29Speaker 1: Gonzales and laid in Florida with all the fraud, And
- 5:33Speaker 1: they say this is a reckoning drain the swamp. How
- 5:36Speaker 1: tolerant are the colleague is going to be in a
- 5:39Speaker 1: midterm year when they have to go back and answer
- 5:42Speaker 1: questions possibly or attached to this guy who's accused of
- 5:47Speaker 1: beating on his wife, ropes that he needs to get
- 5:51Speaker 1: in front of it. He needs to file a defamation suit.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Absolutely, because the allegations were also that he abused his daughter.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Now he has said categorically that that is not true
- 6:00Speaker 2: and claims that the Child and Family Services, because he
- 6:03Speaker 2: was investigated because she made these claims, all deemed those
- 6:06Speaker 2: claims unsubstantiated. And that should be pointed out because anyone
- 6:11Speaker 2: can make any allegation to Child Protective Services and they
- 6:14Speaker 2: are forced under law to follow up as we would
- 6:17Speaker 2: expect those investigations. But he said, and these are verifiab well,
- 6:22Speaker 2: that those were deemed unsubstantiated. He also shared an audio
- 6:26Speaker 2: recording of his ex wife after this alleged boiling water incident,
- 6:32Speaker 2: where his ex tells him you are a very kind
- 6:34Speaker 2: person and I don't think you would ever hurt me physically.
- 6:36Speaker 2: So he's got recordings, he's got text she has texts,
- 6:41Speaker 2: But they have literally been recording each other surreptitiously to
- 6:45Speaker 2: try and then show see I didn't do this, or
- 6:49Speaker 2: see you're making this up.
- 6:50Speaker 3: But it's a lot to go through.
- 6:53Speaker 2: It's a lot of back and forth and unfortunately, yeah,
- 6:55Speaker 2: it's being hurled and displayed publicly, and that is his issue. Like,
- 7:01Speaker 2: take me to court, take me take this to the police,
- 7:04Speaker 2: don't take it to this tabloid who shall not be named.
- 7:07Speaker 1: It's not far fetched what he's alleging about. We we
- 7:12Speaker 1: know this happened. This is yes, this is a thing.
- 7:16Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean the allegations are not true. But
- 7:20Speaker 1: these tactics too, are something that are unfortunately done and
- 7:25Speaker 1: they are disgusting.
- 7:26Speaker 3: It is disgusting.
- 7:27Speaker 1: What we're talking about is a guy Robes who is
- 7:29Speaker 1: just being destroyed. He might lose his he's going to
- 7:32Speaker 1: lose his reputation. Possibly, he's going to lose possibly the
- 7:35Speaker 1: job he has and loves. I don't know. You could
- 7:37Speaker 1: say he deserves it because she has to be listened to, right,
- 7:40Speaker 1: she has to be listened to.
- 7:42Speaker 2: But here's where I think we stand, just given everything
- 7:44Speaker 2: we've been through. When you get publicly eviscerated by people
- 7:47Speaker 2: who potentially have a reason to or have a desire
- 7:51Speaker 2: to motive, who have a motive to motive, yes, and
- 7:55Speaker 2: there's nothing more personally motivating than feeling rejected by or
- 7:59Speaker 2: upset by a divorce or something that happened that led
- 8:02Speaker 2: up to the divorce. But the point being is that
- 8:05Speaker 2: should stay for a family court. That should be I
- 8:10Speaker 2: think limited to a police department. If you've got legitimate
- 8:14Speaker 2: criminal complaints against someone, take them to the police. If
- 8:17Speaker 2: you have legitimate concerns about abuse, take them to child
- 8:21Speaker 2: protective services.
- 8:23Speaker 3: But when you take them directly to a tabloid.
- 8:25Speaker 2: That insinuates you are out to destroy and damage someone
- 8:30Speaker 2: just for revenge.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Else would you do it.
- 8:33Speaker 3: There's no other.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Reason, no other reason. These are just ugly tactics that
- 8:37Speaker 1: take place to where Robes you don't know what to believe.
- 8:40Speaker 1: But I'm told, is this not those stance we should take?
- 8:44Speaker 1: Now we have to listen to her and we have
- 8:47Speaker 1: to believe her. How can you balance then, Robes as
- 8:51Speaker 1: maybe a voter in his district, I have to believe
- 8:55Speaker 1: her as a victim of domestic violence. Then that means
- 9:00Speaker 1: I'm labeling him. How do I balance or give him
- 9:03Speaker 1: any kind of fairness in judging him even as a candidate.
- 9:06Speaker 1: If I have to believe her, I'm always fat What
- 9:10Speaker 1: do we do? Nothing's been proven, but he's been labeled that,
- 9:14Speaker 1: and we're always told we have to robes, consider the
- 9:17Speaker 1: story that's being told. They're never believed. Robes, they're never believed.
- 9:22Speaker 1: So what do we do now?
- 9:24Speaker 2: It's tough because obviously you have to as a human being,
- 9:28Speaker 2: allows space for both of them to be telling in
- 9:31Speaker 2: part some truth and in part maybe perhaps it's an
- 9:35Speaker 2: embellishment or it's a complete lie. You don't it's hard
- 9:38Speaker 2: to know, and that's unfortunately something that the constituents are
- 9:42Speaker 2: left to grapple with because it is not something that
- 9:46Speaker 2: is known as.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Fact or provable by fact.
- 9:48Speaker 2: And yes, you can show a picture, but you if
- 9:52Speaker 2: you don't have video of the incident, it's hard to
- 9:55Speaker 2: know what you're looking at and why you're.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Looking at what you're seeing.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Hear this, and we've heard it so many times, actually,
- 10:02Speaker 1: people in our personal lives. We've heard these things before.
- 10:07Speaker 1: After the first years of marriage, three years, all you're
- 10:10Speaker 1: doing is collecting evidence against each other. Sad I had
- 10:13Speaker 1: to hear they got a picture this, You've got a
- 10:15Speaker 1: recording of this. Gotta da da da, Like what is so?
- 10:18Speaker 1: Obviously something broke down pretty quickly and immediately in their relationship,
- 10:21Speaker 1: But just to hear this is ugly stuff. And yeah,
- 10:23Speaker 1: a US senator. Well, I haven't seen anything from him
- 10:27Speaker 1: about it.
- 10:27Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything from him.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I know that in the midst of all of this
- 10:30Speaker 2: he has Miller, in terms of his legal case, has
- 10:34Speaker 2: called for the senator to be subpoenaed, so he may
- 10:38Speaker 2: be involved if this actually does go to trial in
- 10:41Speaker 2: any way. But this is interesting because we're not done here.
- 10:46Speaker 2: You see, when mister Miller, Congressman Miller filed this defamation
- 10:50Speaker 2: lawsuit against his ex wife, his ex wife's team spoke
- 10:54Speaker 2: up pretty quickly and they say that Congressman Miller is
- 10:58Speaker 2: quote running the same play against a woman with photographs
- 11:01Speaker 2: of her bruises and burns. Mister Miller will not silence
- 11:05Speaker 2: miss Moreno the same way he silenced Stephanie Grisham. We
- 11:10Speaker 2: will tell you, we will tell you who Stephanie Grisham is.
- 11:16Speaker 2: And this is a big part of this story. When
- 11:19Speaker 2: we come back and welcome back everyone to this episode
- 11:31Speaker 2: of Amy and TJ, where we are talking about this
- 11:34Speaker 2: escalating back and forth between Congressman Max Miller and a
- 11:39Speaker 2: Senator Bernie Moreno's daughter, his ex wife, Emily Moreno. Congressman
- 11:44Speaker 2: Miller just filed a defamation lawsuit against his ex wife.
- 11:48Speaker 2: She has been making very public accusations against him of
- 11:51Speaker 2: physical abuse towards her and towards their daughter, and he
- 11:56Speaker 2: is fighting back and he.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Has to go to work every day with his ex
- 12:01Speaker 1: father in law in the building.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Awkward.
- 12:04Speaker 1: That is a little awkward. He did write him a
- 12:06Speaker 1: little note on X. He's only made a couple of
- 12:11Speaker 1: comments on X, but the first robes he made was quote,
- 12:14Speaker 1: it is unfortunate that Bernie Moreno continues to fund and
- 12:19Speaker 1: enable his daughter's malicious campaign to ruin my life, despite
- 12:22Speaker 1: his knowledge of her mental health issues. Bernie, this must
- 12:26Speaker 1: be distracting for your job. These antics harm your own grandchild.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Anytime you want to put a stop to this. You
- 12:33Speaker 1: can not the harshest of things that should be kept
- 12:36Speaker 1: in house to see a family airing this stuff out
- 12:38Speaker 1: like this. That's it's just unfortunate.
- 12:41Speaker 2: It really is, And especially through the halls of Congress.
- 12:46Speaker 2: We talk about things echoing through the halls of Congress.
- 12:49Speaker 2: This isn't what you want to hear reverberating. It's really ugly,
- 12:53Speaker 2: and it's pretty nasty. And look, it's kind of a
- 12:57Speaker 2: similar situation. I say that we end did before the
- 13:01Speaker 2: break talking about a woman named Stephanie Grisham. Who is
- 13:05Speaker 2: Stephanie Grisham. She is Congressman Miller's former girlfriend. But it
- 13:11Speaker 2: was when he was working at the White House, he
- 13:14Speaker 2: was an aide to President Trump in his first term.
- 13:19Speaker 2: He was dating the one time White House Press Secretary,
- 13:22Speaker 2: Stephanie Grisham.
- 13:23Speaker 3: I don't remember, not at all. I don't remember that at.
- 13:26Speaker 1: All at all. How did she serve? Long?
- 13:28Speaker 3: Was it a I don't think so.
- 13:29Speaker 1: He went through a few, didn't he.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was among them.
- 13:33Speaker 2: So Stephanie Grisham was at one point the White House
- 13:36Speaker 2: Press secretary, and Congressman Miller was then a White House
- 13:40Speaker 2: aide to President Trump. He was making his first run
- 13:43Speaker 2: for Congress back in twenty twenty one, and she wrote
- 13:48Speaker 2: a book about her time at the White House, and
- 13:51Speaker 2: in that book she raised allegations about a former White
- 13:56Speaker 2: House staffer who had physically abused her while they were dating.
- 14:01Speaker 2: He was later identified as now Congressman Miller, but she
- 14:04Speaker 2: did not put his name in her book.
- 14:06Speaker 3: But everyone knew she was talking about him. So what
- 14:09Speaker 3: did he do? He filed a defamation lawsuit against her.
- 14:13Speaker 1: As he did. Where'd you get on that one, though.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Well.
- 14:17Speaker 2: He voluntarily dismissed the lawsuit with prejudice in August of
- 14:22Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, just as the case was about to
- 14:26Speaker 2: go to trial.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Okay, none of this sounds okay. This is one of
- 14:30Speaker 1: those things where we go Okay, I know it looks bad,
- 14:33Speaker 1: but hear me out. That's kind of the position he puts.
- 14:36Speaker 1: He finds himself in back to back women that he dated,
- 14:40Speaker 1: back to back women that he had serious relationships with,
- 14:43Speaker 1: and back to back allegations of violence and abuse in
- 14:48Speaker 1: that relationship.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Okay you yes.
- 14:51Speaker 2: One could look at it as that is a pattern
- 14:53Speaker 2: of abuse, this is who he is, and another could
- 14:57Speaker 2: look at it as his now ex wife was currently
- 15:00Speaker 2: with him when this was all going on. She talked
- 15:04Speaker 2: badly about Grisham, saying that she was a vile and
- 15:06Speaker 2: evil person who was making up lies. But she certainly
- 15:09Speaker 2: knew that this hurt her then husband, bothered him was
- 15:13Speaker 2: actually taking he was. His reputation was being at least
- 15:18Speaker 2: chipped away at by these allegations, and so she knew
- 15:22Speaker 2: how to get him. You could argue, if she was
- 15:24Speaker 2: angry about the divorce, if anything didn't go well, she
- 15:27Speaker 2: knew that this was his achilles heel. Another woman had
- 15:30Speaker 2: already made these accusations. So if I make them, I
- 15:33Speaker 2: will certainly be believed and I can bring him down
- 15:37Speaker 2: because of it.
- 15:37Speaker 1: That we should know, nothing was ever proven in that case.
- 15:40Speaker 1: It was investigated as well, the allegations in that first relationship,
- 15:44Speaker 1: so that must be noted. But Roode, that's going to
- 15:47Speaker 1: now come up, and all of this is getting This
- 15:50Speaker 1: is going to get uglier and ugly. I haven't seen
- 15:52Speaker 1: his opponent if they're using this against them yet.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Not well, I don't know if he's doing it yet.
- 15:57Speaker 2: But his opponent is Democrat Brian Poindexter. He is a
- 16:01Speaker 2: five term local councilman. He's a union iron worker, and
- 16:05Speaker 2: yet he's trying to take Miller's seat. He wants to
- 16:08Speaker 2: flip Ohio seventh congressional district in November from Republican to Democrat.
- 16:12Speaker 3: And look that's not.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Anything, of course, that the Trump administration would like to
- 16:16Speaker 2: see happen. So he you know, we're talking about Representative
- 16:19Speaker 2: Miller is now the Republican primary opponent going into November.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Right now, he is ahead, what will this potentially do
- 16:28Speaker 2: to him? And certainly this had to be part of
- 16:30Speaker 2: his motivation for filing this defamation lawsuit.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I don't know what it looks like
- 16:37Speaker 1: in his in his district, grobes, but I just we
- 16:41Speaker 1: hate that these things get aired out in an ugly way.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Tabloids involved, divorce involved, emotion involved, and a kid is
- 16:47Speaker 1: involved with get three two three.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Two years old, little girl two years old.
- 16:51Speaker 2: That's that's the biggest tragedy of it all, just to
- 16:54Speaker 2: see this all unfold, like they can't even hand off.
- 16:56Speaker 2: He's got a restraining order against her and she's got
- 17:00Speaker 2: allegations against him. So it's just one of these really
- 17:02Speaker 2: difficult things. How do you even share custody in that
- 17:05Speaker 2: type of environment. That poor little girl is absorbing all
- 17:09Speaker 2: of that energy. She is the biggest victim of it all.
- 17:13Speaker 2: And certainly you always would hope and wish that parents
- 17:16Speaker 2: who are divorcing and parents who even hate each other
- 17:19Speaker 2: can at least put that aside for the betterment of
- 17:22Speaker 2: their child, but we rarely see that actually happen.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Took the words right out of my mouth, that'll be
- 17:26Speaker 1: in there, and with that, I'm going to leave you
- 17:28Speaker 1: Robes with this as a reminder. I was curious didn't
- 17:32Speaker 1: remember Stephanie Grisham at all as the press secretary. He
- 17:35Speaker 1: had secretary, He had four during that first term. I
- 17:39Speaker 1: forgot about several of them. Kaylee Mcinanny, Oh yes, I
- 17:44Speaker 1: do remember that. Okay. Stephanie Grisham was before that, Sarah
- 17:47Speaker 1: Huckabee Sam.
- 17:48Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, the current governor of Arkansas.
- 17:51Speaker 1: And then Sean Spicer, he was.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's funny fifteen.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Interestingly, I know I remember all of those names except
- 17:59Speaker 2: for Stephaniemers.
- 18:00Speaker 3: How long did she last?
- 18:01Speaker 1: Does it just O for a No, not quite a year.
- 18:04Speaker 3: That's longer than I would have even thought.
- 18:06Speaker 1: It was like ten months.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Maybe I guess she was no. Carolyn Levitt, Carolyn.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Levitt doing a thing. Congrats again on the baby. Get back.
- 18:12Speaker 1: They need you there in the briefing room. I with that, folks.
- 18:15Speaker 1: I always appreciate you spending some time here with us.
- 18:18Speaker 1: I'm TJ. Holmes On. I have of my dear Amy Robot.
- 18:20Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.