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2026 - Pop and Bravo with Ryan Bailey · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade.
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  Speaker 2: It's Thursday, and that means we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: pop culture and Bravo. So there's no better person to
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  Speaker 2: discuss it with him my buddy Ryan Bailey.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Ryan, whoo, Hello, I'm happy to be back.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan. You just had a baby?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Two weeks? She's two weeks old today.
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks Okay, Now what was the actual birth date?
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  Speaker 3: Other thing was March eighteenth. It was twelve twelve, twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven am on March eighteenth. We were kind of hoped, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, she wasn't due for another couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 3: and her blood pressure got really high, so we had
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  Speaker 3: to go. They were like, you got to get to
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  Speaker 3: the hospital and douce labor. Yes, And we got there
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  Speaker 3: on a Monday, and then you know, they were and
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  Speaker 3: all this stuff, and then Tuesday night is when you know,
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  Speaker 3: the active labor, and so we thought it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be a Saint Patty's Day baby, but it just
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  Speaker 3: went over by twenty seven minutes.
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  Speaker 1: So twenty seven minutes.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I was just thinking about that because
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  Speaker 3: if it was a Saint Patty's Day baby, if she
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  Speaker 3: gets older, her friends can take her out, like for
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  Speaker 3: Saint Patty's Day parties and her birthday, but I hope
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  Speaker 3: they're just not too hungover on her actual birthday as
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  Speaker 3: she gets older.
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  Speaker 2: To sell your birthday, you're thinking really far ahead real
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  Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty six years old, twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Seven years yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you also kind of like, oh when the
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  Speaker 2: birthday's too close to a major holiday. But I think
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  Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day, unless you're just like super irish, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: people don't care that much.
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  Speaker 3: That's a that's a that's an okay, that's not too
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  Speaker 3: bad of a one. And Rebecca wanted a Pisces, so
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  Speaker 3: she got her Pisces because I guess it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be in aries, which she no offense to any
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  Speaker 3: aries out there. She wasn't really she wanted a Pisces,
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  Speaker 3: so she got her Pisce's baby, and she's she's a
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  Speaker 3: little angel. I mean yeah, I mean it's everything that
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  Speaker 3: everybody says. You're automatically so in love. You just stare
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  Speaker 3: at her for I mean, it's like it's like a
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  Speaker 3: streaming app. I just stare at her for hours, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't get bored, and I'm yeah, you know, I'm exhausted,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm in heaven and it's I mean, it's really challenging.
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  Speaker 3: We're only two weeks in, but it's been amazing so far.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm so happy. That's great, Like a little baby
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  Speaker 2: is the best. Now, I will tell you something else
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  Speaker 2: that you don't want to hear. That the doctor probably
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  Speaker 2: already told you that because she was early, so she's
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  Speaker 2: really actually not so born yet. So now we're getting
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  Speaker 2: up on that two week mark where she was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be born, things are about to kick off for you.
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  Speaker 2: That happened with my son. He was a week early
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  Speaker 2: my daughter. I went into labor with my daughter, my
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  Speaker 2: first baby, on my due date, which is like unheard of.
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  Speaker 2: I had her again like after midnight the next day.
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  Speaker 2: But for my son, I did a schedule C section
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  Speaker 2: because of the first one, and we did it one
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  Speaker 2: week early because I was like, the minute you can
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  Speaker 2: get this baby out of me, what is the first
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  Speaker 2: possible minute? And they said, well, the dude dates they eight,
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  Speaker 2: you can have them the first ago. Then we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do it August first. But then for one week
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  Speaker 2: we were like, oh my gosh, we're the best parents.
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  Speaker 2: This baby is so perfect chill, and then he kind
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  Speaker 2: of woke up and you're like, uh, oh, soet you're
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  Speaker 2: getting into it.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting into it.
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  Speaker 2: But the little cute, little smiles and the little noise
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  Speaker 2: baby always is little baby smell.
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  Speaker 1: It's also good.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty shocking, you know. It's like you'll wake up
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  Speaker 3: and you'll immediately look over and be like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: we did that. Like it really is. I mean, nothing
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  Speaker 3: he'll do in my life is as cool as that, So,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it really is just this weird, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you're right, there's gonna be so many challenges ahead
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, it's just I don't know, there's not enough.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even really have words for it yet, you know, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we make our livings like communicating to people, and I
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  Speaker 3: still don't really have words to fully talk about this
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  Speaker 3: experience yet. But I think that's probably how it should be.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's very like personal and it's very
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  Speaker 2: like bonding with you and Rebecca, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: all the.
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  Speaker 1: Things and and you.
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  Speaker 2: Can explain it to people who've been through because they
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  Speaker 2: kind of get it, but if people haven't been through it,
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  Speaker 2: it really It just sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of like immediately changes you.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't expect that, right, you expect you're going
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  Speaker 2: to love the baby, but you don't expect that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because it's different. It's different than like a family love
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  Speaker 2: or a spouse love. It's just it's just different. It's
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  Speaker 2: so I'm just really happy for you. That's amazing. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean also people say I love the people that
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  Speaker 3: are like, well, your life is over. I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 3: my life but I'm pretty much at home watching TV
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  Speaker 3: and podcasting NonStop. Anyways, this is perfect, Like, this is right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have to leave. I mean, there's another reason
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  Speaker 3: not to have to leave the home. This is great.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Now you may have to put some soundproofing in that
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  Speaker 2: room or something, or a couple of sound machines or
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  Speaker 2: something if we.
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  Speaker 3: Start to get a little really as she gets old,
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  Speaker 3: because we have a tiny I mean, we have a
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  Speaker 3: nice place, but it's it's tiny. So we'll have to
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  Speaker 3: leave eventually because right now I'm podcasting from the babies
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  Speaker 3: the baby's nursery. She's with us for like the first
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  Speaker 3: six months, so we gotta we got to figure it
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  Speaker 3: out somehow, because it can't be like I'm you know,
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  Speaker 3: my my first room was shared with a podcaster. That's
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  Speaker 3: you never want to hear.
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  Speaker 1: That, no, because that that sounds weird. That sounds weird.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So we're recording this on Wednesday, April first, so
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  Speaker 2: due to the timing of when I record my Thursday episode,
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  Speaker 2: we can't chat about all these new things that are
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  Speaker 2: coming up this week.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, we've got any things.
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  Speaker 2: The Valley, Rhode Island, Atlanta. Now I haven't seen anything.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: Now I did go because you know NBC Universal, like
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the portal and stuff, and usually for a
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  Speaker 2: new show, they dropped the first episode for everybody, right,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to ask and beg and cry and
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  Speaker 2: plead and all the things with Bravo.
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  Speaker 1: But I went, and I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: There for the Valley because I was like, oh, the
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  Speaker 2: Valley will be there. No, So I'm sure you've seen it,
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  Speaker 2: so why don't you tell me what happens?
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  Speaker 3: You know? To be honest, we've only I've watched a
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  Speaker 3: half hour of it. We watched it. We watched it
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  Speaker 3: at Cedars SINAI. We were watching because I also got
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  Speaker 3: the first episode of the Bachelorette with Taylor Frankie Hall,
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  Speaker 3: and it was like two days before they pulled it.
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  Speaker 3: And as soon as I started getting win that like
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  Speaker 3: they might pull it, I was like, Rebecca, we got
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  Speaker 3: to watch this now because I think they're gonna yank
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  Speaker 3: it off the service. And Rebecca was like, yeah, cause
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  Speaker 3: the first day we were just getting ready to give birth.
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  Speaker 3: So we watched that, the Southern Charm reunion, Summer House
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  Speaker 3: and the first half of the Valley. From what I remember,
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  Speaker 3: there was a lot of you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: them have kids now, so it was like Christen, Dody
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  Speaker 3: and Luke and her baby. Remember Jack's Taylor is gone,
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  Speaker 3: but the shadow of Jackson is still there. Brittany's getting
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  Speaker 3: her sparkle back. I'm getting more sparkled back, and she's
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  Speaker 3: dating new talking about dating a new guy who we
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  Speaker 3: know she's no longer with now Schwartz we see in there,
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  Speaker 3: La La. I bet to be honest, I have to
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  Speaker 3: watch it tonight and catch up on what it is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, But it's it's hard because everything is overshadowed
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  Speaker 3: by all of this Summerhouse news. You know, it really
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  Speaker 3: overshadows I mean realize I was the Rhode Island I
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  Speaker 3: got to see and I thought that was really I
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  Speaker 3: thought that was really really good.
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  Speaker 1: Then and then Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 1: Eat some good. Okay, So Rhode Island, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: that real quick.
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  Speaker 2: How did you feel? Because I've I went and looks
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  Speaker 2: to see that. I was like, surely they sent me
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  Speaker 2: the first one. They always know Bravo said fu mp,
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  Speaker 2: no way.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder I wonder why because I'm so curious about
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  Speaker 3: the rollout of these projects, because they put a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money into this and it's good. It's not bad
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  Speaker 3: like it's it's actually I was pretty sucked in, pretty
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  Speaker 3: like immediately. They have one episode on Thursday night and
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  Speaker 3: then a second episode on Sunday after Atlanta, and I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was like all of the ladies look alike,
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  Speaker 3: but once you start watching it, they differentiate pretty quiet.
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  Speaker 1: It's like wives. It takes a minute exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I will say what I love about it
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  Speaker 3: is that it's not that Beverly Hills aesthetic of it's
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  Speaker 3: it's like just way. I mean, these are all wealthy people,
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  Speaker 3: but you get to see their families. There was realness
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  Speaker 3: to it, there was humor. They all talk with these
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  Speaker 3: kind of I didn't know the Italian population was so
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  Speaker 3: huge in Rhode Island. Here. The husbands are actually interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed like a pretty cohesive group already. Ashley I
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  Speaker 3: is kind of a newcomer actually eyes from Bachelor Nation,
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  Speaker 3: but her and her husband who we've seen on Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: Nation as well, they're in it, but they fit in
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  Speaker 3: pretty cohesively as well. So I was kind of jazz
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  Speaker 3: where it's like, you know sometimes with housewives shows, now
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  Speaker 3: you spend a whole season watching them get to know
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  Speaker 3: each other, yes, and them already knowing each other. So
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, these people already seem to have relationships,
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  Speaker 3: and that comforts me because you know, it didn't seem
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of fake drama right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, yeah, I think we can
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  Speaker 3: work with this. I dug it right off right off
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  Speaker 3: the bat, but I got to see more episodes to
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  Speaker 3: but I'm going to watch it every week of course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'll watch whatever they give us.
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  Speaker 3: As am I doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what else are you doing? Like, let's be honest,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just do whatever. But I'm very excited to watch it,
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  Speaker 2: and that is interesting. I would not in my mind
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  Speaker 2: when I think of Rhode Island, I think of like
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  Speaker 2: Newport and the summer houses of the rich New York people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been to Newport, Rhode Island. That's the
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  Speaker 2: only place I've been, saw the houses and went right
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  Speaker 2: back to where I was.
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  Speaker 1: Going in Connecticut.
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  Speaker 2: But so I would think it had a big Italian
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  Speaker 2: American population like a Jersey I wouldn't think that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, me either. That's why I think. I mean there
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  Speaker 3: is like a humorous aspect to it because Dolores Catania
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  Speaker 3: is a part of this as well. She's kind of
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  Speaker 3: a friend of her and Polly, but you know, she
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  Speaker 3: fits in. She pops up in the first episode, like
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  Speaker 3: I think about halfway through. But it's also that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: stick out like a sore thumb either.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Dais has this really interesting ability to have been on
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  Speaker 3: reality television all these years yet still come off somewhat relatable.
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  Speaker 3: Is that is that crazy to say? Like you still
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  Speaker 3: kind of like she doesn't think. It's not like she
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  Speaker 3: thinks her shit stinks, you know, It's like she can
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  Speaker 3: still like have normal conversations or appears to be. And
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  Speaker 3: so I didn't. I really it was like, oh, this
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  Speaker 3: is going to stick out like a sore thumb. But
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  Speaker 3: it did not at all to me.
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  Speaker 1: And she's friendly with all these women, right or most of.
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  Speaker 3: Them, she's most of them. She's friendly with one that
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  Speaker 3: actually looks they look like their sisters. And there's there's
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  Speaker 3: a caricature artist that like pops up at like the
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  Speaker 3: party towards the end and does a drawing that looks
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  Speaker 3: exactly like each other, which is hysterical, which reminded me
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  Speaker 3: of that character artist they had on that TLC boat
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  Speaker 3: we were in New York.
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  Speaker 1: You and Rebecca did it. I should have done it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And we had a baby shower too where we
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  Speaker 3: had a We hired a character artist because of that
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  Speaker 3: that we thought it was so fun. And I I
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  Speaker 3: have now two examples of me being the worst person
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  Speaker 3: to draw as a caricature artist. One my nose looks
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  Speaker 3: like Bozo the Clown. I was like, I look like
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  Speaker 3: I've just a gigantic Red Nose. But you know, who
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  Speaker 3: doesn't love a characature artist. No, I highly recommend Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 3: And I love that they didn't force some sort of
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  Speaker 3: insane storyline right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, Okay, okay, good are you so
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  Speaker 2: you're giving it?
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  Speaker 1: You're giving it a must watch?
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  Speaker 3: I'm giving four out of five clams.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, A clams is what they're holding.
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  Speaker 3: That's so they're holding, which, by the way, Tom Hamlet,
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  Speaker 3: who's really funny, you should I actually have it on
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  Speaker 3: your show. He was like, it's so disturbing that Vicky
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Gunwolson set up having like center orange, you know, the Vermosi,
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  Speaker 3: and now they have somebody holding the center clam. It's
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  Speaker 3: just like it's so weird, like the center like you
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  Speaker 3: couldn't think of something else. It had to be very
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  Speaker 3: weird a clam. Yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it begs a lot of questions exactly. Okay, now, Atlanta,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: have you gotten your eyes on that? Like, I can't
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: wait for Atlanta to come back.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Atlanta is so good. A lot of new I mean,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: we have like a new Blood, but you know, Atlanta
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: is one of those. It is very in well.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I don't like a lot of new I don't like
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of new blood.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Well there is there is some new blood. We have
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: somebody from Love and hip Hop. We have to But
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: what I what I wanted to say is that the
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: editing and the way they shoot it is it's like
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: it's I don't like it with Beverly Hills, but I
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: like it with Atlanta, if that makes sense, Like it
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: feels like a movie. And I mean, Portia's going to
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: be the one to watch this season. I mean she's
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: dipping her toes in the Lady Pond, which I don't
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: think anybody could blame her at this point. But Atlanta
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: also has one of those things where the dialogue is
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: so rapid fire, you know, it's like there's it's kind
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: of like, well, not like Rhode Island, but there are
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: certain there are certain shows that have their own language,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Like if you were into Shakespeare or like a David
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Mammott play, they kind of you know, it's like, oh,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I know I'm reading Shakespeare. I know you know you're
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: watching Atlanta. If somebody had written it down, you'd be like,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: oh god, the everybody's firing off like these just really hysterical.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: One liners and they're not. It just comes natural. It
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: feels so natural, and so I don't know it's gonna
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: be It's gonna be interesting to see where Atlanta goes.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: But it is it is produced within an inch of
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: its life, if that makes sense. But I say that
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: as a compliment.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, as soon as you're saying that
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: versus Beverly Hills, which is also produced within an inch
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: of its life.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: But there's I'm so sorry. I know a lot of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: people love Beverly Hills. There's no soul in Beverly Hills,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: you know, like it doesn't have a soul, you know,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: it like barely if it feels like it's like, yes,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: we now do this scene, and yes, we now do
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: this scene, and then we show them go shopping because
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: people like shopping, and then we show a big house.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And I think at this point, we watch Kyle and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Durite fight about fighting or not having a relationship or
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: having a relationship for so many seasons where I long
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: for the days of Lucy Lucy Apple juice storyline, like
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I love Rachel Zoe, Like listen, you are having Amanda
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Francis by default have a better season, just by being
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: just by just you're just plowing the same field again
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and again, like at this point to reach she's not
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: your friend, move on?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I you know, you and I both we always love
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Sutton and people are like, oh, Sutton's a little boring
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: right now, and I'm like, okay, let her be boring
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: for a season, give her a second.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean like I always feel like if somebody
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: had the hot potato the season before, you can you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: it's like, okay, I forgive you. Or Sutton's new thing
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: is she's not Sutton Stracks, She's Sutton. I'm Sutton Brown.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Now she's yeah, you know, and Suddon Brown is a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: nicer woman, which I find. That's like, it's a funny
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: storyline to have. I do get I do get curious
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: where they go because it still gets such great ratings.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: You know, they don't really have to do anything, and
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: we will still show up for it. But I feel
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: like you can but we can walk in chew gum
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: at the same time. Wouldn't it be amazing if we've
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: made a really fantastic gripping show out of Beverly Hills.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that the story there was you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the Richard sisters, and we do. We do get a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: little wacky Kathy here and there. Yeah, and I enjoy
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I enjoy Kathy Hilton telling Amanda Franstance like sit down
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and know your place.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Girl, Know your place girl.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, By the way, if Kathy ever called,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: like you know, Kathy can put you know, as kooky
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: as she is or as she likes to come off,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: she could put the fear of God into you, like
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, Kathy behind closed doors the cat.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: It's like Chris Jenner, We'll never see the real Chris Jenner,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: like the business Chris Jenner. We just get to the
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: kooky Chris Jenner that people make fun of for drinking
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: like vodka Martine's by her daughters. And it's like, no,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: because you don't get to where you are. You don't
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: get the Kardashians to where they are without like the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: best business mind. And I mean, I just would love
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: to see Chris tear somebody apart. I feel like Kathy
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: can probably be the same way. And I think that's
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: what I kind of sometimes wish, is that you've got
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: this amazing facade everybody has put up on Beverly Hills, like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: could we tear it down a little bit? Kyle lets
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: us know the truth about her life three seasons after
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: it happened, like, and.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Now she's bought a house in Nashville.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I heard did you see that thing? The other day?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I saw some TikTok where a girl saw her at
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: a restaurant what is it in the place where she
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: bought the house? And Morgan Wade was with her, like
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: in a hoodie, like you know, the hoodies completely pulled up,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: which goes Durite said this on Watch What Happens Live?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I think that episode.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Oh do we remember what she said? She said, Kyle
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: likes to have a relationship with Morgan on the off
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: season of Beverly Hills.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, well that is silly.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I was at the watch What I Was Live with
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Deret and Sarah Michelle Geller, which was interesting.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: It was good, but Dee was in a very weird outfit.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like d.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I will say, I will continue to watch it no
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: matter what. It takes a lot for me to sort
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: of just stop watching a housewives show. I did sort
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of do that with Potomac this season. I know everybody
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: told me as crazy. Everybody says, you're like.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: The end.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I did go and watch the reunions, and I did
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: watch Karen in her new Face interview with Andy. By
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the way, she completely got that nose job before she
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: went to prison, because when she came out of the prison,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Ryan and she got into the car, was like, let
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: me wave to my fans she had the new nose.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So before she went to prison.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: There are rumors they are doing plastic surgery in prison now,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: so I will throw that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Out there, Ryan, that's not true.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I know that is not true. That is nice that much.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Would it be great? Would it be great if that
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: was like if they started doing that in prison, Like
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I always said, once I found out you can have
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: like an iPad where you can watch like they have
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: streaming services in prison, and I'm like, yeah, send me in,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Like that sounds like at this point it sounds sometimes not.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I'm on prison TikTok sometimes and they make feasts. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: watched a guy make a breakfast burrito that was like
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: the size of a baby's arm. It was crazy.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Ryan.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I cover all the lock up shows, and
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I've covered sixty days in and and I've covered like
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: prison wives and prison roommates. I've covered all the prison shows.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You don't want to go to prison no, obviously, even
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: for the even for the even for the iPad do.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Rebecca and I are still so sad that it's that, uh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: love during lock up is over because we just now
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: just for now. But it was like we that, I mean,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I kid you not like that was our Friday relaxing
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: time would be turning love during lock up on and
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: oh my god, that one guy that is no longer
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: with us, that was like asking that girl for fifteen
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars for like a bitcoin business steal in prison. Wow,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: beels needs that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: No, I think we're I think it's coming back in May.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: So we do on our show, we do Mugshot Monday
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: where we talk about love about your lock up, but
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we switched it now to Monarch Monday where we're talking
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: about Ladies of London, which is.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I love Ladies of London. Isn't it fantastic? Do you
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: like it? Right?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It's so good, so good, And it's sort of what
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: we were just talking about with the Rhode Island thing.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And when you feel like people don't know each other,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: these people have known each other, some of them twenty
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: plus years. Yes, and every every episode we're learning more,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: like Kimmy saying that before Emma came to long Lead,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the towel smelled and it was disgusting, and you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: now Emma's there, and now.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: It's at Yeah, it's down downy fresh. No. And like
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Margo and Martha knowing each other for so long, I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: think that, I mean and Martha, Yeah, Martha being like
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: the Sonia Morgan of Total Brittain. I mean, with her
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: little grottage and the magpie bird. I mean, you couldn't.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think it works so well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: And my fear what I get scared is I know
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: they put a lot of money into these shows. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: really want Ladies of London to get a second season.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Me too, And I get nervous because I mean sometimes
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: and I've been this way myself, we don't really allow
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: new shows into our heart that often because you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: like we want our you know. That's why I realize
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that Beverly Hill still does good. Like we've invested fifteen seasons.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: That is something. Now I have to learn new names,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: you know, I have to learn new that's I know.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: That's a little thing, but people really do think that way,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and this show, I just I hope people will turn
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: on Peacock at some point and maybe you're a little
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: hungover and you just put it on on a Sunday
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and let it roll, and I think you're really gonna
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: dig it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's great. Now.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: The problem with the show is when we first started covering,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: we're like, everybody his name starts at the M Micah, Missy, Margo, Martha,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Mark Rasis.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it could be good branding. I mean
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: in a sense as well, but it's that's well. That's
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: why the Real House was of Rhode Island too. Is
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: like when you look at the cast picture, you're like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: is this AI? Is this an AI Housewives cast? Because
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: they all kind of look so if you have blurry vision,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: you really would not be able to differentiate, and so
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: if you watch it, you can differentiate immediately. So that
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: was actually really reassuring where I'm like, oh yeah, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I still Mary Page. We've talked about this before, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: still am. I really, this is the only idea I
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: want to impart to reality shows is I just want
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: a digital name tag for each character that it follows
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: them around for like six episodes. They know, so we
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: never have to search for a name. Like I know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: it might look a little tacky, it doesn't have to
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: be huge, but the technology exists. I mean, you've seen
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: those avatar films, just like a little thing that says
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Mark Francis and it just follows them for the first
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: six episodes, so you never have to go, wait, who's
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: that again? Who are they talking about again?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's right, because when they put it
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: on the screen and it'll be like, you know, Micah
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: twenty four or you know whatever, and then they take
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it off, so like you and me for taking notes.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I look down and now I'm in the scene.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, crap, I gotta go back because I'm trying
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: to get the age. By the way, here's something interesting
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: about the Ladies of London. A reader, a reader, a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: listener of mine, a reader, I'm a writer.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Now, all the readers of the podcast, thanks.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: All the readers and the listeners and the watchers. They
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: went and found everybody's age, and it's very easy to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: find everyone's age. And one of them was like, you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you don't know exactly what this person's age is. But
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: they graduated from high school this year, so you can
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: go from there. The only person's age that cannot be
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: figured out. And then I went myself like, well, I'm
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: pretty good I could figure it out. No, it's Kimmy. Really,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you don't know how old Kimmy is. It's true she
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: has two she has nine year old twins. So in
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: my mind, I think when she was forty she and
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: her husband were divorced, she decided, I want to have
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the kids, so I'm gonna go ahead and do it
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: with him. That's why I think she's probably forty nine
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: or fifty, because she said once I decided it was
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: almost too late, so I decided to do it with him.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I bet she was forty. She
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: thought that was the too late age, so that's my
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: jumping off point for her age. I could be completely wrong.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: She could have decided that at thirty two.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but she got married to down
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Abby Ryan.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Kenny's so interesting is that it would not surprise me
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: too if she was like some sort of weird vampire
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: that could be out during the day and she's thousands
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of years old because her her accent is all over
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the place. She has like this, really you know, she
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: has a very insane sense of humor, which I love.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: She obviously is like a stiff upper lip in terms
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: of emotions. You know, we don't have emotions on our sleeve.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many great little characteristics that remind
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: me of a little bit of like old timey and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: not in the new era that we're in. And I
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: but at the same time, I love her. I think
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: she's an amazing character her.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I think that she, uh, the whole thing about making
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: fun of Missy's brother's murder was horrible. Now we did
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: see on the last episode they sat down and she
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: she's she sort of did a housewife apology, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and if I hurt your feeling, and you know, if
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you were hurt.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: By that, I'm sorry.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But you know, the funniest thing Housewif's of Jason too
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: is Missy's like, how can you be mad with somebody
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: with this thirty thousand dollars Berkin saying look at that bag,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you know, And I was like, it's true, you would
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: want to like just touch it. But I think what's
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: interesting about Kimmy is that obviously she has some sort
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: of huge trauma in her life. Margo has sort of
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: alluded to it more than once, and Martha not Margot, sorry,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Martha has alluded to it more than once and been
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like she acts that way because it's a trauma response.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, so what happened, so now you
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: have to tell us, right.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: But but what I love is that, yes, that's what
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you're like. If you set up those foundations building blocks,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: we are curious and like, whether it be at the
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: end of this season or the beginning of next, we
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: know that there's other things to explore. And that's why
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: you always know you're watching something good is when, first off,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: when you actually care, like you want to know. Like
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: there are so many characters on reality shows where you're like,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I don't give a rip what you say at this
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: point or how you grew up. I do not care
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: at all, but like, you're right, you do care and
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: you want to know, and that keeps you kind of
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: engaged in this different way where you're already interested in somebody.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Six episodes in, Yes, we are very into it, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I'm very into this week. On the Thursday episode, they're
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: all going out to Long Lead, you know, which Louis
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Staples told me, he goes that is like the number
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the third highest visited place in the UK.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Like it's a huge thing.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: He's like, So when I saw they were on, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: was like, this is legit And they're going out to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Long Lead and Mark Francis is going to i don't know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to get a little tipsy and like rail on Margo,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: which I think.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Is like he's going to be like Okay, yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: See that's like that. That's like the Oscar Wilde kind
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: of like sport, the importance of being earnest of like
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you know what I's do. I'm I'm you know, I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: very wealthy, but what I like to do is, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: tear into people for sports. You know, It's like this
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: is sport for him. You know, it's like, well, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I'll have a glass of wine and completely try to
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: mentally annihilate this other character.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And he's you.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Know, he's got such great pattern and rhythm to how
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: he speaks that I'm like, Okay, yeah, I don't love
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: when people pick on people, but I'll give you a
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: pass because I love how you do it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: That last last week when Emma Martha, Mark Francis and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Kimmy were sitting there, and this is where you can
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: really tell Kimmy and Martha have been friends for a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: long time. Emma and Mark Francis are like best friends,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and you could tell all these people, these four are
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: really really really good friends. And because they're really kind
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of going at it about Margo, Margo, Yeah, and.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: You know she's tacky.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It's just you know, Lululemon, and you know she's she's
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: not in La anyone and all that, you know, and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: they're really just ripping into her. And you could tell
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that normally this would be fun. And what I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: also for them if they're wnting cameras, you know, to
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: catch it. But I think what's interesting too is Emma always.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Tries to be like, okay, okay, because she does have
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a reputation to protect.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she can't be seen on screen talking about somebody's
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: ugly jumped suit and their terrible style and somebody's terrible
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: cooking and she has a cooking show we found out,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: you know, like she's got to kind of keep this up.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Like they were at Sketch in London having tea, which
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I had actually been, and I was like, oh, it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: a place I've been and they were having tea and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: they were making fun of the whole Dara being a madam,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: and Emma goes, oh my gosh, and she's like, shut up, Emma,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: it's funny. So I think it's the cameras weren't there.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Emma would be rolling with it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Well, also, isn't her uh because uh, Princess Beatrice? Right?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Is DOA's.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Do ex husband married Princess Beatrice?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a real I mean listen, Yeah, they
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: had the Bravo Bravo, which, by the way, set that
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: show off on such a great path, like what Yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: at the same time talk about things to unpeel like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: an onion. You had so much there with Dara in
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: regards to like, well, where did the madame rumor start
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: start from? And then eventually that would have given you
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: an entrance point into potentially down the line talking about
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Epstein or Epstein related things, because Caroline Stanbury an old person,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously Ladies of London, the traders, you know, Dubai,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: you know, she was in the Epstein files and so
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you know, it would have been an interesting conversation at
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: some point, and so was.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Princess Beatrice in the Epstein Files. Yeah, the whole the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: whole fam Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Finally the family that's in the Epstein Files together stays together.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Right, that's right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: It's just just a bonding. It was interesting when I
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: talked to Louis Staples. He was saying, you know, he
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: was kind of giving the British opinion on the whole thing,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and he said, the whole madam thing he thinks came
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: from a British person joking about her, saying well, she's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: quite a madam, which means diva, oh them. And so
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a British person said it to another British person, well
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: she's quite a madam being a diva. But a non
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: British person heard it and thought it meant madam.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, he thinks that's.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That makes sense. But if you were Dara and you
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: heard this about yourself, wouldn't you have like a little
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: bit of a moment like what are you talking about?
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Like are you crazy? Instead of being so chill about
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: it like well that's okay, yeah, okay. Like that was
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the weird part. It wasn't the rumor itself, it was
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the reaction to it, And that was the part that
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: threw me because once she reacted with a non reaction,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, is there something? Is there more?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Is there something more here to this?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: And then she brought those friends to that dinner and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: clearly she did not know them. They were like, I'm
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a fan. I'm a fan she was.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: There were cameos in person cameos.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, I don't know, she just puts
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: people together.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: We're like, what.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: But I did kick the show off to such a
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: great start, and I really love it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So if everybody for not watching it, I don't know.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: What you're doing.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You gotta gotta go and just go catch up. It
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: is on Thursday nights on Bravo. But because somebody said
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: it's only on Peacock, I go, no, it's on Thursday night.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: What did Mark frantzis be good on the Traders?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, but he wouldn't want to have
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to run or do any.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: But that would be funny in it in and of itself.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: If you had to get that guy in a pair
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: of sweatpants and like make him run or something, there
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: could be comedy. And I don't know, for some reason,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I would love to see him at a round table.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's great, you know.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: And what I didn't realize is that I mean I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: realized because I've heard of Maiden Chelsea, but I didn't
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: never want no show that he is on that show.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And then what I also didn't know. Louis told me
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: is that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Miss A miss A had been a Real Housewives of
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Something of in London, Real house something, and he was like,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: so you've actually got two people that know how to
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: move a story along but.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Are all for It's just it's a perfect recipe.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys, if you like, If you like
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Mark Francis. I then got fed a bunch of tiktoks
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: of him from Maiden Chelsea and I was like, oh
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: my god, this show. First off, the show is shot
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: like the Hills. It's so beautiful. And then he's so
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: funny in all the clips that I was I was like, Oh,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: he knows exactly what he's doing and he does it well.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And he you know, like, if you do it well,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you know. Sometimes not things are staged,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: but they can be a little you know, a little
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: fake or a little like you know, like this.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Is anyway to campy? Sometimes yes, but with him, I.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Don't mind it as of yet.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Well, since you just had a baby and Lottie and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Joshua Kane just had a baby, are you thinking about
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: getting matching three.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Piece suits for you and Rebecca and the baby.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I am wearing a girls watch because he inspired me
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: to wear a girls watch. I mean like they I
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: mean his mustache. I mean that's another like they really
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: do seem like they're madly in love with each other.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: But like, wow, like what that's another great casting choice
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: because she's great and obviously he's He's got a lot
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: of stuff going on, from his looks to his personality.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: He obviously wants to be you know, at at the
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: forefront in a lot of ways, but not in that
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: annoying house husband kind of way that we've we've were
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: used to seeing like a pKa on Beverly Hills, and
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: so so far, I'm it's once again, it's like I'm
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: fascinated because I don't know anybody like them in my life.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by the fact that they have such a
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: traditional relationship.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, but especially him. They look so out there.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Like they're doing a gender reveal party. You're like, you
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: guys want to do a gender reveal you.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Want to you want to know the baby.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: You don't want to say the baby is they and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: let them choose when they're eighteen, like what, Yeah, they
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: just seem so I don't know because I was like,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: first he's got all the tattoos, then he's got the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: long hair, then he's got the mustache, then he's got
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the eyelighter, then.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: He's got this.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, in the words of Cococh and
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'll take one thing off like it's he has.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of eyes. Yeah, but I don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: know what he really looks like.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: He could probably like walk through my living room and
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you would never know if he just just took all
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: that off, you wouldn't know what.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: He looked like.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: He said his guys, I just always want to know
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: when you have such an extreme kotored mustache like that,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: like how does what's the origin story? Like when did
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: you go? Like, you know what, I'll keep growing this
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: mustache out and then it's like, you know what, I'll
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: start styling it. You know what, I'm going to make
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: big points on my muscle, like how does that even
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: come to be in the first Like how long did
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that take him to get to that place and will
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: he like, is this something where he gets a new
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: hairstyle and look every two years, like when we see
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: him in a completely different way on season two.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. It's he's like Madonna. Every season
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: is gonna change his luck. Yeah, he would love that comparison,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's see. I was gonna ask we already talked.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: A little bit about Beverly Hills, what do you think
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: about when we were talking about Sutton, what do you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: think about Sutton kind of teaming up with Amanda a
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: little bit?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I it's like, you know, if you're
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: on a reality show, like Amanda can't be an Island.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: So you know, Sutton is being nice enough and her
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: excuse is, well, people weren't nice to me, So I
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: know you need an ally sometimes, but you know, Amanda
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Francis makes it so difficult because even Sutton, you can tell,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: is annoyed of like, well I'm trying to be nasty
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you go, you know, like I'm trying to help you.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: But Amanda Francis can be Like the thing about Amanda
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Francis is that like, I don't know, I'm on the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: fence if she'll even want to come back for a
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: season two huh. But at the same time, like she's
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: really great in her solo scenes, like I get a
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: kick out of it, but she really is so repugnant,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Like she makes it very hard for the rest of
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: those women to like her because she does say not
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: just wacky things, but like, you know, just snide things
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: that come there that you know, they sometimes are meant,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: sometimes they aren't. But it's like the tone of her
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: voice that she makes it hard to root for her.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, like I said, Beverly Hills
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a lot going on, so I'm very thankful
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: for Amanda Francis. You know, it's like just like okay,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: like where But you know, do you think she's coming
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: back for season two? Oh?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think she loves it. I think she
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: loves it. And I think now.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: That she's sort of likes a challenge too.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she likes a challenge.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: She's manifest She sat, she manifested being on the show
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and it worked. I I, yeah, I don't like her.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And if I would be the dumb ass like Sutton
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to be like you guys, nobody's nicer I'll go and say,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: how bad going to be? And then I'd be like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: why the hell do you let me do that? You know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I would be the Suddon that would be like nobody,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: nobody's nice to her, so I'll be nice, like, yeah,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: we're just going to go in the room and sleep.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: How bad can it be?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I think she's going to come back.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, I love that. I know what I want to
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: ask her is I want to ask her because she's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: so into manifestation. She's the Manifestation queen. Obviously. I think
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: she manifested Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and I would
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: love to know if she has journal entries and a
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: vision board targeting this show because she got Kyle's old house.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I want to know, Like, I do believe she targeted
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: this show, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: We know she was on an episode or two of
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Selling Sunset when they were trying to purchase a home,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: so you can see scenes of her on one of
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: the seasons of Selling Sunset, But like, I think she
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: targeted that, and I would love to know if she
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: did write a Manifestation journal entry about wanting to be
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: on Beverly Hills because my my prediction is she did.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I think because she I think you're made to really
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: good points there. Not only did she buy Kyle's house,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: but she was on selling sunsets. She's like, I'm getting
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: my foot in the Bravo door that house.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: That's for sale. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. She's like,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I've got to put Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Also how much money? I mean, like, obviously she's done
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: really well. I just I didn't. Like, I mean, listen,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I grew up as an actor in Los Angeles and
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: people try to sell us everything, like yeah, they're always
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: trying to get you an inspirational workshop or a meditation
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: or this is what antology? Man? Well yeah, but like
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I remember, I was came up during like The Secrets
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: if you guys remember, yes, vision boards and all this stuff.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: You know, everybody was trying to sell like a way
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: to like get to that next rung on your career.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: But like a lot of people have done that, Like
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I just I'm so I would love to in a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Season two see one of her workshops. I would have
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: them to film the other people that have signed, because
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I would love to know the type of people that
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: have signed up for these things.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And I'd like to hear their stories of how it worked.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, this reminds me of something that I meant to
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: ask you at the beginning, because you brought it up. Okay, Now,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: as you know, I've told you a million times, have
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: told everybody here, don't come at me, don't tell me
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to watch it. I understand. Okay, preface, I don't watch
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Summer else. Oh stop, don't.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear Wow.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Know the players don't know the game. Okay.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I understand about Paige. Okay, I know they sit in
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the bed a lot. I think they just go.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know so much this season, Mary Payne. Now,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: they're not in the beds nearly as much because page
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: A Sorbo left last season and so it really reinspired
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: people to get up from out of the beds and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: not god rot as much. It's a more active season
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: this season. But yeah, crap's going down in the summer.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And so I know I know Sierra because she was
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: on Traders.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Gorgeous.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, So here's my understanding of what's happened. Okay, Amanda
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and Kyle were married. They were original Summer Housers. They've
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: been married for a while. Craig acted harble at their
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: wedding and dastily.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, they.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Have been having a tumultuous time. Everybody can see they
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be married anymore.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: There's another guy in the house who's kind of new.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: He was a has been on the whole time. Wes
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Wilson saw him at Bravo. Cohn was like, he's kind
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of cute. Hate the mustache. Okay, but Wes is not
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: like original friends with Kyle, right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: No, he was brought in on by Lindsay Hubbard. But
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: it was one of those you know, it's like in
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Housewives when they're like, I brought this person on. They're
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: my friend, but they're not like close friends. But that's
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: how he came on. In Jesse Solomon, they've been on.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: This is their third season now.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, so because they're all in the house together, they're
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: all show friends or whatever. Now, Amanda and Kyle announced
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: that they were in fact getting a divorce several months
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: ago before Summer House started.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: The season started, right, and everybody thought.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: It And so you're mind understanding is you're sort of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: watching it play out on the season about how they
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: don't get along and they're going to get to the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: divorce point now with the news came out yesterday, which
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: lots of people thought.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was April Fools, but April Fools is.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Wednesday today, so it wasn't that they confirmed that Amanda
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: soon to be ex wife of Kyle and West from
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the Summerhouse, we're schnugging dating something, doing the hippoti dippity.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, so, and the big thing here is
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: that the Kyle of it all is like we've seen
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Kyle treat Amanda horribly over multiple multiple seasons, but it
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: was the Sierra of it all because Wes Wilson in
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: his first season had a romantic relationship with Sierra where
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: he kind of like really lured her in. And it
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: takes a lot to break down Sierra's barriers. You know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: she's very protective of herself, and you know, now we
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: see why because also Austin Kroll from Southern Charm also
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: was with Sierra for a while, but he was seeing
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Hubbard at the same time. This was about like
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: four or five years ago. Now I'm trying to but
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: he was like already so already Austin Krall played in
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Sierra's face. West like convinces her he wants a relationship,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: sleeps with her, introduces her to his family, and then
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: decides he doesn't want you know, doesn't want to be
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: in the relationship. And he does an interview with The
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: New York Times off season talking about the breakup. And
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: so when he came back for his second times the
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: New York Times, Yeah, the paper of notes, Yeah, yes, okay.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Wow, okay, crazy, not the New York not the New
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: York Post, No New York Times, New York Times.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Just check it out.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: And then the second season happens last year, and Sierra
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: just like, how dare you you? You know, you treated
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: me like an idiot? You made me like a fool.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: And West, you know, when he's in those pressure situations,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: he really as cool as he is on his social
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: media and on the show, he doesn't know how to
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: like talk in those situations. And that's why I don't
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: have high hopes for him at the reunion. So we
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: spent the whole season just being like, oh, Sierra's mad
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: at me, Oh my god, Oh my god. And then
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: this season picks up and the trailer came out and
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: there was like kind of this reigniting of the West
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Sierra relationship where people were like, oh my god, are
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: they going to get back together again? Because they were
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: all touchy feely in the preview, And that's what we're
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: seeing play out is him like you're mad at me,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: but like I really like you, and he's like kind
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: of flirting with her and touching her and like putting
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: his foot on her foot, and everybody's like, dude, he's
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: in love with you. And this whole time, nobody's looking
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: at Amanda and Kyle because they're like in misery. Every
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: week he called her an f and bach. Last week he's,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: you know, drunk. They're a married couple in a party sharehouse,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: which is insane in the first place. He's there, right,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, and he still wants to party every weekend
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: and he gets so hammered, and then he wants to
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: know why Amanda doesn't want to like hug him or
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: like with him or touch him, and he's like, I
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: need you to love me. So that's all happening. And
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: so we're already on the Sierra thing like wow, are
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: they gonna are they gonna get back together? What's going on? There,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: and then all of these rumors started about a month
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: ago where they're saying Amanda and West Wilson are hooking up.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't, but listen, this is how stupid I am.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I believe the best in people. I was like, no way,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I will eat a damn shoe if this turn out
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: to be true. And I actually posted on my Instagram
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I said, this is the shoe I will eat if
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: this turns out because I just didn't believe it. And
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I've talked to Wes. You know, I've talked to Kyle,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I talked to West. I mean like I know them
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: like in you know, that little bit of the Bravo
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: universe since I'm you know, I've talked to them over
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the years, and so I was just like, there's no way.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: This doesn't make any sense. He wouldn't do that to Sierra,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and he wouldn't do that to Kyle, and Amanda is
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: just getting out of a ten plus year relationships.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Amanda and Sierra are close besties.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: There was a scene two weeks ago where like, you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: all this shit's going down and Sierra's like, I love
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you and you know you're one of my best friends.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: And a man is like I love you too, and
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: she also knows what West has put Sierra through, and
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Sierra did such a beautiful job. I don't know two
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: time means nothing anymore, but I think it was two
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: episodes ago where she also explained as a black woman,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: now listen, I'm a white, straight dude. I'm not the
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: person to be delivering this message, but I do learn
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: things from listening to Sierra speak on this show. She
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: mentioned also as a black woman, is that you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: she takes a lot of heat, you know, from her
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: even her community of you let this white boy play
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: in your face, you let, you know, she deals with
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the whole other level of criticism that that not even
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of people know. And it was the I
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: don't know, I'm such a team Sierra person, even though
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I'm a grown man, so who should be team anybody?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: But you know, like she she's she's just I don't know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: she speaks, she speaks really well, and like I always
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: learned something from her this season. But like now Wes
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: is playing in her face again, so then this comes out.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: But then Dumis posts another thing yesterday, We're saying as
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: as little as a couple of weeks ago, he was
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: still hooking up with Sierra, so he was then hooking
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: up with Amanda Batula and Sierra in the same time period.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: On top of there's like five or six other girls
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: damas you know, and who knows it's Dema, but like
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: she's been right about everything else in terms of summer else,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: she has a very inside source. So potentially we're looking
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: at Wes Wilson because the dual statement that they released yesterday,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: which was so wacky, I couldn't understand if they were saying,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: we were trying to make it work. You know, it's
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: new to us and this is built on your friendship,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: like are we but it's this isn't I don't know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Amanda's been part of this game forever and Wes Wilson
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: knows how social media works and things don't. I don't
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: know what they thought was going to happen when people
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: found out, and I think they're going to blame it
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: on us the fan base, saying well, we didn't want
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: to say anything. We wanted to figure out for ourselves,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: but everybody kept posting about it. It's like, dude, that's
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: your fault. You're on social media NonStop, You're posting TikTok's NonStop.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: You're posting Amanda in your tiktoks. You know, if you
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: want to keep something private, keep something private. Don't give
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: us something to talk about. You're not Daniel day Lewis.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: You're on a reality TV show.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I just went off you guys.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I'm asking because people are genuinely interested, And
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: like I said, I know a little little bit.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And then I did see on Instagram reel somebody.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Posted as a guy who was like, oh, look, I
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: just happened to see Kyle Cook on the street.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you some questions with this Dom.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Glynn from the Hollywood Raw podcast okay, and well Adam Lynn,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And I was like, is he really just on the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: street or did he meet Kyle down there?
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Because it seemed a little like I will like.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay. A fun fact about that, Adam Glenn, I
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: know him a little bit. He he has gotten many
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Kyle Cook interviews over the years. He got the first
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: one after the Amanda and Kyle separation. So I think
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: there obviously is a relationship between the two where it's
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: you know, but having said that, he always gets such
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: great information from Kyle. Yeah, so basically what she's saying.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Kyle came out today, you guys on a street in
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: New York, and you know, Adam asked all of these
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: questions like, you know, how's Amanda doing, how are you doing?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: When did you find out about this? And Kyle really
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: was in the dark until this weekend. And I guess
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: they had been lying to Kyle as well. That's the problem.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: They were lying to everybody. I guess people were asking
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: them directly and they would saying no, no, it's not true,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: it's not true. So and then Sierra it makes a
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: lot more sense. I mean, it made sense before, but
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: if he was still hooking up with Sierra, that is
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: so dark. But it is, it's it's this is never
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: gonna take away any kind of hurt. But Sierra was
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: already in the biggest glow up over the last two years.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: This is just a catapult, catapulting factor that she can
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: write her own ticket in terms of the business she's
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: in right now. She told a beautiful story about just
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: buying her grandfather's home and she's renovating it. I'm like, dude, now,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: now go build your data home, Like, yeah, you're gonna
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: be able to be on Dancing with the Stars. If
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: you want, you're gonna be able to do like she
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: really the world's gonna be her oyster, whereas Amanda Batula
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: had this arc where people were really sympathizing and empathizing
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: because we've seen how Kyle's treated Amanda over the years,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: and now that's done. You ruined it. You ruined it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: She had a brand deal with a weed company. You guys,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: the weed company pulled their sponsorship with her yesterday. Did
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: you know how crazy it's going to be when a
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: weed company's like, you know what, we don't want you
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: to be the face of our weed Like that Wow.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Same, that's insane, he did say. Kyle said when he
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: was doing this, you know, man on the street, she's
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: a real person, he did say, Like she's a real
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: person and the internet bullying needs stuff, like how is
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: she getting bullied?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: And he is followers? Yes, he's like, how is he not?
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I suspect those those are bought followers? I don't because
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: he's you guys, He's like his follower account is increased
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: by fifty thousand people.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Which some days like how I get that his name's.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Out there, but like fifty thousand, Like if these are
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: fifty thousand women. We got to have a real big treck,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, like you got to like we can
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: only show you as much like we can't hold your
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: hand through the entire thing. Obviously, this man has a
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: lot of growing up to do, and and you know,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: we all do idiotic things and stupid things and have
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: to grow up. But I just don't know what he
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: was what he was thinking, like, this is this is
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: the way they make their money. This is like, yeah,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: you know it's silly to a lot of us reality stars,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: but this is what they do. This is like provides
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: a living, like you're mess out for everybody.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I thought the command on the Street thing was interesting
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: that Kyle also said, well, we have the new show
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: coming up, and you're gonna see how that plays out.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: So I think he's like, the new show is already shot,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: and now this you're going to be watching the new
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: show through the lens of everybody's lyne, which, by the way,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: is just great for the new show.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: It's great for the new show. But at the same time,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's great and it's not great because Amanda
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: was going to be what it looks like was the
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: heart of that show, and if we already are in
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: mass dislike of Amanda and I, you know, this week Summerhouse,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I did a recap of it that comes out tomorrow,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: and I was like, it's really hard for me to
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: find empathy or sympathy for this woman that I've had
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: empathy and sympathy for for this entire season and the
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: season before, and now that's kind of shot. Like I'm
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: not I don't want a bully or I don't want
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: to you know, we all make mistakes all of that stuff.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: But like commenting on the show, yeah, coming out, you know,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: now I'm going to watch in the city where I'm
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: just like, like, it just feels like it's like if
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: scanned the Ball, if all of a sudden raquel and
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Tom Sanderbal had to spin off, and Okay, watch it
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: because I'm a Bravo fan, but I don't know if
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I fully you know, like listen, I'm still gonna watch it, obviously,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: but it really messes with that show in a sense
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: as well, like people will tune in.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: But that's what he was trying to say, was like
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: that show is already shot, and now we're going to
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: have a different lens to look on it like a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: lot of it is a lie.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Well he's throwing a positive. You know, Kyle's a great spokesperson.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: He's a good business you know, he's he knows his
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: way around. Like Selsia's hat lover boy, sir, if you watch, Yeah,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: he knows like he's a party boy, but he knows
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: how to speak. He knows how to get his message
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: out there. And you know, to his I don't know credit.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: He's standing up for his estranged wife, who he's just
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: reminding people. You know, we already knew. You know, Amanda
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: has mental health issues she's talked about on the show.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I believe she takes prozac. I'm a proud user of
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: SSRIs myself. What I will say it doesn't excuse how
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: they treated Sierra, none of that. But the one thing
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: that is very real and like you know, most likely
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: never happened. But you just like I've been in places
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: in my life over the years and decades where I've
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: had some real dark nights of the soul, like where
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: you know it's all you need is one bad thought
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: at one wrong time, and you just want to make
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: sure and so like, listen, I'm not asking for anybody
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: to do what you want feel how you feel. What
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I would hope for Amanda is that she just stays
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: offline completely. Yeah, because we're trying to do the internet's
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: gonna do what it does, you know, Like, don't don't
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: look about like Rihanna unfollowed her. You know, it's like
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: that would kill me right there if But I you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: protect yourself at this point. And the reunion films in
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: three weeks, and that's gonna be it's gonna be like
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: a super Mary payn You got to watch this season
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: by the time this airs, cause I think I think
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: you'll end up getting into know faces like oh god, well.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I am going to be
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: like on a long trip in a couple of weeks.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on a plane for a long time
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: going to France. So I'm like, maybe I'll just download
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the season and do it then, right, because you've got
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: to have something long, long to watch while you're on
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: something like this.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you download it, can you play
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: it at like double the speed or one point five.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: H probably, But I don't like to do that unless
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: it's boring scenes because there's a lot of just people
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: in the pool or bed rotting that I could.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: I'm in a bad habit lately of doing like one
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: point five on shows as well, not Bravo shows, but
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: other shows.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you and I were talking about Welcome to
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: platfl came back and we had a real rage induced
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: recap of it that came out on Wednesday, and if
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: you get if you get into it and you ever
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: want to talk about it, you let me know because
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I'm also I'm also on my on my Patreon doing
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: the rewatch of the past seasons with my co host Keisha,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: who's never seen it. So she's never seen it, so
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: she's like, Okay, I'll watch it with you. I don't know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: and we're going to go full She didn't know one
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: thing about it.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, those are heard.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: It's like watching a stand up special with somebody and
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: you love the stand up special and then you're just
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: watching their reaction the whole time, like going, yeah, are
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: you finding the same Part's funny that I find?
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, And she Keisha is a black woman, and so
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: we named it Whitey Wednesday, so on Wednesdays we reach out.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: She's like, these are the whitest people I've ever seen
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: in my entire life, and every so often, like there
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: will be a black person on the screen and she's like.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought that I'd never see one.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: But let me ask you also about what you saw
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: on the secret no on the Bachelorette with Taylor Frank
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: K Paul.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: When you got to see it?
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Would you see I mean, uh, you know, this was
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I A been a while since I've watched the season
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: of the Bachelorette, and I was, you know, I've watched
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: all the secret Lizer Mormon Wives, so I was, you know,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I think like you, like a lot of us. I
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: when they made that casting choice, I was like, oh,
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: that's insane. But like I said, ABC's really doing a
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Hail Mary pass here. I mean that's like if I said,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: if this works, it does weirdly reinvigorate the franchise, but
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: where you go after Taylor Franky Paul, But like it
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: is funny, we kind of just forget so many things
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: about Taylor. Like that's how Mormon Wives started, is with
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: the Dakota fight and every like, by the way, ABC
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: knew that, so it was a real hell Mary pass.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: And if that video hadn't come out, it would have
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: worked out for them, you know, like it might have
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: come out later, but it was okay. It was like
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: your normal Bachelorette episode, you.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Know, and everybody says most crazy season ever.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean the first episode was you know, it
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: was it had like charm elements. You meet the guys,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: there's like a crazy guy. There's you know, some guys
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: that you're like, oh, good guy, good guy. Her family's
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: in it. Dakota's mentioned in like the first five minutes,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: but he's not in it. He's just mentioned, you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: like there's no red flags like there was on that
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: last episode of Secret Lizer Mormon Wise where it's like
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: she slept with Dakota, like none of that. So it's
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: a weird experience to go from that to watching The Bachelorette,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: which I think a lot of people would have already
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: been in rape just going wait a secon. You're talking
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: about taking this so seriously, but yet you just slept
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: with Dakota. That's not taking this opportunity seriously.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Well do you think they'll throw it on Hulu? I
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: kind of do.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: I think in I think down the rest, Yeah, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: do see a world in which that you know, you're
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: not going to have the Real Housewives of the Ultimate
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Girls Trip Morocco situation, where you know, there's litigation between
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Caroline Manzow and Brandy Glanville and Bravo. There's no active
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: litigation between ABC and Taylor Frankie Paul at this moment,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: and they paid out her contract, so there. I mean, yeah,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're kind of a litmus test of seeing
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: where everybody's at and Secret Lize, you know, but Hulu, Abc, Disney,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: it's all one company. So I find it very hard
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: to believe that nobody over at Hulu and Secret Lizer
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Mormon Wives were going, hey, bachelor franchise. She just slept
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: with Dakota and she's late for her flight. Like there,
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I've seen how these shows are put together.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: They're not put together all willy nilly, like there's a
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: fine tooth comb. And I think a lot of things
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: were known by production, yes, And I think I you know,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I think that's the interesting part is that if we
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: don't get to see this, we'll never get to see
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: what were the highs and lows, what were the like,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: what were the moments where she like completely lost her
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: mind or went after like, you know, win in on
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: a guy or find out like the guys that weren't
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: there for the right reasons. Those are the things I
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: would be curious about. And remember she went back to
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Dakota after The Bachelorette finished filming.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I will be interested to see if they
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: throw it on Hulu, I will watch it and Real Housewife,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Ultimate Girls Strip Morocco. I mean, I mean just we'll
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: pay for it, pay per view, pay per view. Everybody
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: pays one hundred dollars. I'll pay one hundred dollars to
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: watch it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Listen. I mean, that's one of those things where I
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: feel like you have to sign some kind of secret clause.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, because like it's like the Caroline Manzo You'd
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  Speaker 3: have to really make good with Caroline Manzo to be
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  Speaker 3: able to see that, Like she's got to be alright
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  Speaker 3: with you seeing it. But it is funny. It's like
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  Speaker 3: being in reality television in twenty twenty six. If you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: were a financier or producing these shows, you're really gambling
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  Speaker 3: at this point because we want to see activated personalities.
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  Speaker 3: But sometimes these are activated personalities that have that have
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: almost been inspired by twenty years of batshit crazy reality television.
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  Speaker 3: So they're on another level, and you're gonna run into
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  Speaker 3: more and more situations like the Taylor Frankie Paul situation
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  Speaker 3: or the Caroline Manzo Brandy Glanville situation. And that's the
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  Speaker 3: part that scares me, and we've talked about this, is
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  Speaker 3: that I don't want to ever feel feel like I'm
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  Speaker 3: watching a show and I have to support that character
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of my life, like I have to.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like Bravo's now responsible for Brandy Glanville's well
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: being for the rest of her life. Like Heather Debrerouw
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  Speaker 3: might not be my favorite housewife, but at least I
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  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about her financially if she gets
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  Speaker 3: kicked off the show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, right, that's an extreme example, though, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. You got to think about like somebody like
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  Speaker 2: Jack's who got a show going and then by his
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  Speaker 2: own actions, got kicked off that show. Now he's got
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  Speaker 2: a former spouse on that show that's bankrolling him, so
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: that works out for him. Speaking of that, do you
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  Speaker 2: think that we give Jackson a one season break and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: he comes back.
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  Speaker 3: I do believe. I mean, I think he's getting help
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  Speaker 3: for himself and his family and his child obviously, but
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  Speaker 3: I think part of that is also getting clean so
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  Speaker 3: we can get back on Bravo. Yes, and I think that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think that wasn't like a you know,
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  Speaker 3: a contracted deal. But I do believe we will see
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  Speaker 3: Jack Taylor back on Bravo, hands down, not even There's
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  Speaker 3: not even a doubt in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if Teresa can fully go to prison and
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  Speaker 2: then they put her back on and then last subject
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: is Jinshaw came out with like a People magazine interview.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't watched not.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Jen, not now, please, there's enough go. We don't
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: need this now, Jen, please please Jack. She called Elizabeth
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Holmes Lizzie. Oh, Lizzie. She was in prison with Elizabeth
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: homes Y. She called her Lizzie. I was like, Jen, please,
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  Speaker 3: I can't do this today.
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  Speaker 1: That is so hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I saw her, you know, she's walking in her
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: power suit and she sits down and she says, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then I realized I just have to own up
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: to this.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, girl, girl, No.
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  Speaker 3: In that same preview, she doesn't take accountability and then
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: she takes accountability. So I was like, oh, we're still
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: flip flopping on the accountability of it all.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: So you know, I you would to talk about at
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the last minute and all the people that were there with.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: You, believing in you, rooting for.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: You until that minute came out of your mouth.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't. I do not think we will
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: see jen Shaw back on Bravo. Not a Bravo Listen.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: We could do a Love After lock Up season with her.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: We could do. I don't think she'll be working on
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: NBC Universal property, So I don't foresee a Traders and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: I don't foresee a House of Villains.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: The House of Villains would be the only other thing.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: House of Villains is now on Peacock though, so I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: don't that's part of the NBC Universal family. So I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: think she'll be back on a reality television. I just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: don't think it'll be through NBC Universal. But I just
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: hope she pays the victims back.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: You know, right, Well that's all we want.
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  Speaker 2: Well interesting Listen, Ryan, I know that you had to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: take an hour out of your baby staring.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I love when I reach out. I was telling
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: ingerd I go, oh, I rest out Ryan, she because
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you know he had a baby. I go I'm aware.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I'm aware. It's made nice.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we've been. It's really lucky that I get
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: to do this and be here, and like, right after this,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I just go and I bottle feed right now and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: give Rebecca break. So it's it's really nice. Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. I'm so happy for you,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: so happy for Rebecca. She's she's wonderful.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: She did. I mean, god, the fact I said this,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: it's like the fact that men control anything in this world.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: After watching her give birth, You're like, what the hell?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Like we I mean, I see it in the obvious
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: we could never do that. A but just like the strength.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: And I'm like the fact that I was watching this
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: stupid Inside the Manosphere documentary on Netflix.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Luis or can't watch it. I know it's gonna upsett.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: I can't watch it, but I love Louis throw so
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I gave it a you know. And there's one thing.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: It's like, look out here, can you see anything in
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: this world that a woman created. He's pointing at all
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: these buildings and I'm like, yeah, dipshit, she created you,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: like you know, like the you and you are a
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: piss poor example of a man, so we love your times.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to watch that because you sometimes you
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: just have to know, like that's gonna upset me.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: It's just like watching plastfal.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I do it on purpose and rage out, but that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: that's my job. But the inside of the matosphere, I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: saw enough podcasters covering it and I was like, yeah,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to be too upset.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: No, it's it's one of those things where you're like,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: I really always love Louis Thereau's work, but you know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: you're like, uh, hopefully people watch this in the spirit
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: that it's meant to like shine a spotlight on these idiots,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: and you just never know how things are going to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: be taken these days where you don't want some kid
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: watching it going these guys are living cool lives. Nice.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean we even had Andrew Tait mentioned
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: on Love is Blind, so I mean, oh god, yeah.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Good Ryan.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they could find you in your podcast
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: and what are your covering?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: So bad. It's good. If you're we're need even Summer
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: House right now, you guys, uh, Summerhouse recap today or
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: this comes out on Thursday. Yep, Summerhouse recap that you know,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: but we also had Micah from Ladies of London on
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: this week. She was fantastic pop culture round up. We
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: had Mark Francis on last week, so just you know,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: pick and choose whatever you like or if not, I'm
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: just enjoying being here and that's it. Thank you so much.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Ryan, Bye guys