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Ohio State Wins The 2025 National Championship · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow morning for Tuesday, January twenty
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Speaker 1: first time your host tom Or. The Texas game is
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Speaker 1: in two hundred and twenty one days, the gaming gainst
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Speaker 1: Michigan in three hundred and twelve days. As you may
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Speaker 1: have heard by now, the Ohio State Buckeyes are the
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Speaker 1: national champions of college football. They took careen Notre Dame
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Speaker 1: Monday night in Atlanta. Our postgame show went very, very
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Speaker 1: very long, as you might expect, so Tony Gerdaman and
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Speaker 1: I after we wrapped up the Buckeye Weekly podcast, turned
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Speaker 1: things over to Kevin Noon and Mark Givler, who did
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Speaker 1: sort of an unofficial version of the Buckeyes to Orow
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Speaker 1: Morning podcast.
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Speaker 3: So here is that.
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Speaker 1: We'll have plenty more coverage coming up on Tuesday morning
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Speaker 1: with the Ohio State National championship postgame press conference, the
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Speaker 1: traditional morning after press conference that'll be at nine a m.
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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, so you can look forward to that. But
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Speaker 1: for her now here are Kevin and Marky Wow.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know you've already talked about the game
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Speaker 2: at length. This is my first opportunity, but you know,
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Speaker 2: for people who have you know, we've been on the
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Speaker 2: air for three hours and twelve minutes. Nobody, nobody goes
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Speaker 2: deeper with the postgame show than Buck Eye Huddle. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just you know, maybe a resummary of your thoughts of
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Speaker 2: the game. Because you were in a very different scenario
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Speaker 2: than we were in the stadium and all the crap
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Speaker 2: going on and everything else, you were able to focus
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Speaker 2: a little more on it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I thought it'd be lower scoring. I
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Speaker 3: had a high set winning by eight, but I had
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Speaker 3: at twenty one thirteen and a lot. A lot of
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Speaker 3: my reasoning was that I thought there'd be just a
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Speaker 3: very few amount of possessions, and I was right. But
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Speaker 3: what I didn't you know, what I didn't anticipate was
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Speaker 3: at a high school, just score touchdowns on all of
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Speaker 3: their possessions. And so I was a little surprised, how
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Speaker 3: I'll say, easily, because they had to convert a lot
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Speaker 3: of third downs. Will Howard was really good on third
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Speaker 3: down to night, but I was.
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Speaker 2: A little surprised on thirty.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they were. I think they converted like
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Speaker 3: their first seven or something crazy, So it wasn't like
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Speaker 3: super easy, but I was still a little surprised at
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Speaker 3: how easy they were making it look offensively those first
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Speaker 3: four drives. You know, Notre Dames obviously got a very
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Speaker 3: good defense and that was kind of the strength of
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Speaker 3: their team this year. And I think a lot of
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Speaker 3: people thought that, you know, they try and you know,
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Speaker 3: muck it up and do a twelve round fight, and
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Speaker 3: Ohio State just didn't really have any of that. At
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Speaker 3: the beginning of the game. It was like, nope, we're
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Speaker 3: not We're not doing that with you guys, even after
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Speaker 3: getting punched in the face on the opening drive. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: that was a little surprising to me, just how easy
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Speaker 3: the offense made it look.
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Speaker 2: I want to get to a couple of super chats
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Speaker 2: and I'll kind of get into my thoughts after that.
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Speaker 2: We thank everybody who jumps on board with a super chat. Also,
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Speaker 2: if you want to support us, this is a great
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Speaker 2: time to sign up for bucket Huddle four ninety nine
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Speaker 2: for your first month. Don't go to eBay to buy
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Speaker 2: gaining confetti. That's some jerk got from party City and
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Speaker 2: is lying to you or whatever. I promise you every
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Speaker 2: piece of confetti that I have I picked up with
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Speaker 2: my own hands, so you know you can. And if
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Speaker 2: you sign up for bucket Huddle, you can get into
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Speaker 2: our confetti thread. You get a chance to get some
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Speaker 2: confetti from the game. You know, just a fantastic time.
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Speaker 2: We're turning the page. We're turning the page, Portal news,
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Speaker 2: NFL entries, everything else that is going on. Oh, by
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Speaker 2: the way, the recruiting machine really starts to crank up again.
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Speaker 2: And maybe not so much with the class of twenty five,
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Speaker 2: but it's gonna crank up again. Don't think for a
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Speaker 2: second just because the season is over that the excitement
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Speaker 2: is over. Sunday twelve pm, Ohio Stadium, the celebration, and
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Speaker 2: then at some point down the line, we're gonna have
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Speaker 2: to go to DC. Mister Smith goes to Washington and
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to sit there and follow the Buckeyes
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Speaker 2: to get their celebration. Give a to the President and
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Speaker 2: everything else. Dave K. Thanks to your fans, pets, especially
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Speaker 2: mister Business, Tony's cat hockey teams, etc. For putting up
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Speaker 2: with your rock and roll globe trotting lifestyles this playoff
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Speaker 2: youary you to real MVP. Thank you, Dave K. It's
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Speaker 2: been a lot. I'm playing hurt. I have had a
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Speaker 2: cough and whatever since the Rose Bowl. I think I
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Speaker 2: broke my toe, my big toe. I already broke my
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Speaker 2: little toe, so I'm limping around. I mean, I'm just
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Speaker 2: a mess. Not getting home until Tuesday night. Wednesday. If
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Speaker 2: Mark comes calling to record Skull Session Recruiting podcast, He's
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Speaker 2: going to get my answering machine because I'm going to
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Speaker 2: sleep all day Wednesday unless something stupid happens. And then
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Speaker 2: one more really quick from Chadwick Moran Kevin can finally
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Speaker 2: shave his playoff beard. Maybe we'll see. I guess I'll
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Speaker 2: put you down as not a fan of it. I
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Speaker 2: mean it is kind of, you know, gnarly looking and
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Speaker 2: everything else. But what if I, you know, groom it
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Speaker 2: a little better. Maybe I'll keep it. I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to get the beard of one Mark J. Gibler over there,
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Speaker 2: but I'm working on it. I'm working on it.
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Speaker 3: You got one thing I gotta say real quick, because
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Speaker 3: we're tracking the uh the Fanatics orders, which, by the way,
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Speaker 3: I guess I can probably put that link in the
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Speaker 3: UH chatter. Yeah, obviously National Championship. You're already up on Fanatics.
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Speaker 3: We have a link for you, guys. I do think
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Speaker 3: they're doing free shipping right now on order.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a great time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, jump in there and get it. But like I'm
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Speaker 3: I'm already, I'm seeing the numbers come in of like
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Speaker 3: just what we the traffic We've sent them, and it's
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Speaker 3: it's it's staggering. So you guys are quick. There's a
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Speaker 3: lot of national championship You're flying off the shelves already.
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Speaker 3: You guys wait to like go to bed and get
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Speaker 3: up in the morning and brows. Nope, you guys went
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Speaker 3: right in there and got after it. So I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: Not to toot my own horn, but how many days
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Speaker 2: have I been saying we have got to promote the
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Speaker 2: living bleep out of it, because I know when LSU
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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, we both have a friend that runs an
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Speaker 2: LSU site and he told me just the ridiculous amount
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Speaker 2: of money that he made on all this. And we
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Speaker 2: know the Ohio State fan base is better than the
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Speaker 2: LSU fan base, so there's a lot going on out there.
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Speaker 2: We also have an affiliate link for Homage and what
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Speaker 2: they have there, and we also have a partnership, not
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Speaker 2: really a partnership, but kind of an affiliate deal with
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Speaker 2: Nico Sports, who is putting out a commemorative football. It's
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Speaker 2: really great. I'm putting out another link for it on
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Speaker 2: my Twitter account at eight in the morning Eastern. One
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Speaker 2: of you. Only ten thousand of these out there, jump
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Speaker 2: on board. They're beautiful. If we move enough of them,
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Speaker 2: maybe we'll get one that will come back to us
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Speaker 2: and that'll be a giveaway over Buckeye Huddle. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't really collect memorabilia. I'll keep a little confetti,
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Speaker 2: not much, but you know, I want to be able
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Speaker 2: to give this stuff back to our members, so well,
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Speaker 2: you know, we'll figure that out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna partner with some of these places on
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Speaker 3: some giveaways a soft season, so you know, again stay
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Speaker 3: tuned to the website for that. We got some hopefully
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Speaker 3: some cool gifts coming that we'll do some contests this offseason.
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Speaker 3: And here's the funny part. I mean, the off season's
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Speaker 3: what gonna be like six weeks and we're gonna be
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Speaker 3: a spring It's gonna be springball before you know it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they'll push it back a little later
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Speaker 3: this this uh this year's because of the championship game
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Speaker 3: being so late, but I mean the way they've been
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Speaker 3: starting springball the last several years. We're like six seven
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Speaker 3: weeks out from springball, so it's gonna be We're gonna
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Speaker 3: be back out there on the football field no time.
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Speaker 2: I think what they may have to do, and I
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Speaker 2: haven't talked to anybody about this, so this is just speculation.
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Speaker 2: Is normally they do like two practices, then have spring break,
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Speaker 2: and then come back to it. I think realistically, maybe
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Speaker 2: you just push it beyond spring break. I mean, everybody's
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Speaker 2: in football shape, they've had their early enrollies traveled. I
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Speaker 2: mean there's limitations as to what they can do and
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Speaker 2: what they can't do. Get into your mat drills, do
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Speaker 2: some of the conditioning work, and maybe push it back
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Speaker 2: because we're used to the spring game being like the
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Speaker 2: second week of April, and maybe it slides to the
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Speaker 2: third week of April. And let me tell you, coming
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Speaker 2: off of a national championship, as long as it isn't
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Speaker 2: two degrees, I think we're going to see a very
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Speaker 2: robust crowd at Ohio Stadium. Just like on Sunday, We're
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Speaker 2: going to see a robust crowd twelve pm celebration. Parking
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Speaker 2: is free, attendance is free, A great chance to celebrate.
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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that we may, and we haven't
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Speaker 2: gotten details. We know the team is not flying back
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Speaker 2: until tomorrow. There is a press conference at nine am.
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Speaker 2: We will cover it live here at Buckeye Huddle, probably
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Speaker 2: do a show in conjunction, maybe not the same. We
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Speaker 2: may have to break it up because of some technology
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Speaker 2: limitations around here. Tom and Tony get on the road.
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Speaker 2: I fly later in the day, but maybe, just maybe
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Speaker 2: we might have some coverage at the Woody when the
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Speaker 2: team comes back with all the hardware. So be sure
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Speaker 2: if you're watching us on YouTube, which is by far
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Speaker 2: preferred outlet in terms of these shows, YouTube dot com,
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Speaker 2: don't miss a single bit of information. I do not
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Speaker 2: have an itinerary. I've already put a request into Ohio
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Speaker 2: State to get an ETA when they will be back
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Speaker 2: at Ohio Stadium. I have a feeling you'll get a
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Speaker 2: little bit of a promotion there. They will tell you
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Speaker 2: what's kind of happening there. So yeah, you know my
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Speaker 2: thoughts on the game. I was for a while it
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Speaker 2: was thirty one fifteen and I'd picked thirty one seventeen,
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Speaker 2: so I felt pretty smart for a change. Granted, Tony
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Speaker 2: Gerdaman copied me and had the same number that rat.
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Speaker 2: You know what, but things got a little got a
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Speaker 2: little nervous, and I'm down in the I'm down in
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Speaker 2: the digital media work room, and I'm like, well, there's
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Speaker 2: no way they're going to hit this inside straight of
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Speaker 2: getting three two point conversions. Well, they were starting to,
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Speaker 2: and I know one of the biggest things I said
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Speaker 2: was that Ohio State can't go into turtle mode. Oh
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Speaker 2: Ohio State went into a little bit of turtle mode.
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Speaker 2: And it's difficult because you're trying to sit on this lead,
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Speaker 2: But what does prevent defense do prevents the win? And
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Speaker 2: we kind of saw that they took their foot off
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Speaker 2: the accelerate a little bit until one alien known as
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith single coverage makes the big play. Ohio State
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Speaker 2: not able to punch it in but gets the field goal,
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Speaker 2: which was very critical at that point because we know
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Speaker 2: that everybody was really nervous about where Jaden Fielding had
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Speaker 2: been and uh, Ohio State puts it away. But what
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Speaker 2: was your level of concern as things were kind of
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Speaker 2: like plummeting toward uh the Rocky Gorge.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never got to like red alert, but it
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Speaker 3: was getting an orange there for a for a few minutes.
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Speaker 2: Boy.
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Speaker 3: That Yeah, that that Abuca fumble was was kind of
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Speaker 3: a I don't say a killer. I mean they want
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Speaker 3: they won the game, but if he doesn't fumble there,
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Speaker 3: I just think we're looking at probably a three score
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Speaker 3: win for Ohio State because at that point, the game
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Speaker 3: so far out of reach. I don't even know what
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame does at that point to get back into it. Uh,
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Speaker 3: it just was it just totally gave them life and
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Speaker 3: there was there was just no way I could believe
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Speaker 3: that they were going to actually lose that game. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: it definitely wasn't as you know, people couldn't you know,
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Speaker 3: start start their postgame celebrations, you know, at the eight
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Speaker 3: minute mark, like we thought they might be able to
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Speaker 3: that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like it was heading to a point
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Speaker 2: of where it was going to be a route some
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Speaker 2: of my sec friends. You know, Notre Dame comes out,
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Speaker 2: but it's an eighteen play drive seventy five yards ten minutes. Essentially,
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Speaker 2: the Ohio State has its answer and then Notre Dame
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Speaker 2: gets shut down on its next drive. They're like, this
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Speaker 2: is gonna end up forty one to seven, And for
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Speaker 2: a minute I kind of thought that might be the case.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of times where Ohio State on
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Speaker 2: that first drive runs into some issues. So I immediately
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Speaker 2: went to the Oregon game in twenty fourteen, the National
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Speaker 2: Championship game, and they had a prolonged drive, but it
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Speaker 2: was a little bit different. It was seventy five yards,
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Speaker 2: it was eleven plays, but it was three minutes because
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Speaker 2: they came out there with Marcus Mariota and it was
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Speaker 2: you know, they were just running it as fast as
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Speaker 2: they could. But one of the messages that kind of
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Speaker 2: came out of that was don't be concerned if that
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Speaker 2: happened as a first drive, because that's not sustainable that
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Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to be able to put
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Speaker 2: those types of drives together. And I went to social
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Speaker 2: media and said some things like that, and you know,
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Speaker 2: of course everybody was concerned and everything else, and that's fine.
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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are watching this with
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Speaker 2: their heart. I mean, it's it's college football. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know it's not you know, this is not doing
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Speaker 2: your taxes or something that you can be dispassionate about.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're fully invested. I mean, if not,
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Speaker 2: you know, we might be doing people's taxes. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: But with that being said, it proved to be right.
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Speaker 2: You know, I heard the report that Riley Leonard went
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Speaker 2: and emptied his guts in the trash can and everything else,
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Speaker 2: and you know, thankfully I was nowhere near the Notre
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Speaker 2: Dame bench to see any of that. I was basically
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Speaker 2: sitting way wait, wait, wait, way up of the end zone.
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Speaker 2: It was still a great seat. I mean again, people
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Speaker 2: were paying five bills just to get in the door.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm I'm not here to complain. I'm
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Speaker 2: not Tony who argues and complains about free food. I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I'm not a monster like that. But Notre Dame really got,
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Speaker 2: you know, bogged down. And I haven't had a chance
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Speaker 2: to break down on the numbers and look at the
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Speaker 2: quarterlies and everything else. I just have a final book
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Speaker 2: in front of me. But Ohio State outgains Notre Dame
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Speaker 2: by one hundred and thirty seven yards. They out rushed
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Speaker 2: them two fourteen to fifty three. Ohio State once again
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Speaker 2: can't get out of the way of penalties, six for
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Speaker 2: fifty eight to Notre Dames. Three for thirty first downs
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Speaker 2: are pretty similar. Ohio State didn't have to try and
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Speaker 2: convert a fourth down. Notre Dame was three at four,
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Speaker 2: which obviously is a little bit troubling. But you know, overall,
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Speaker 2: the stars showed up when they needed to. Yes, you
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Speaker 2: know there are play here, play there they'd like to
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Speaker 2: have back third nineteen, the IGB, the IGB interference Will
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Speaker 2: Howard Airmail's Carnel tape by just a little bit on
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Speaker 2: that that what would have been just a walk in.
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Speaker 2: I mean it was would have been a touchdown just
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Speaker 2: you know, he was already in the end zone at
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Speaker 2: that point. But I watched the NFL playoffs this weekend.
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Speaker 2: They were far from absolute. Matthew Stafford was crap. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know what I would I would I would take
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Speaker 2: a Will Howard kind of day where he was thirteen
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Speaker 2: to thirteen to start the game. Granted he's not going
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Speaker 2: against an NFL caliber defense, but nobody's going to be automatic.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a few, a few missed opportunities out there that
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Speaker 3: you know, make this game so far out of reach.
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Speaker 3: We never get to the stressful moments of those those
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Speaker 3: last five or six minutes but you know, at the
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Speaker 3: end of the day, it's kind of the beauty of
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Speaker 3: winning a championship. You don't have to have that like
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Speaker 3: autopsy of like, oh, they gotta do better at this
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Speaker 3: or they better fix this. Well, the seasons at least
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Speaker 3: won the national championship. The season's over, so uh, it's
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Speaker 3: it's kind of a win, however ugly it has to be.
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's priels pretty for thirty five minutes
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Speaker 3: and then it just yeah, I mean you expected Notre
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Speaker 3: Dame at some point to kind of put up a fight,
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Speaker 3: but yeah, just a yeah, few missed opportunities late and
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Speaker 3: it happens. And again, I think you look at this
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Speaker 3: team and how it kind of differs from maybe some
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Speaker 3: of the past couple teams. This team has a real
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Speaker 3: has had a real knack all year for just kind
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Speaker 3: of being able to have that short memory and whether
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Speaker 3: it's a bad quarter, a bad drive, a bad even
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Speaker 3: a bad whole game and sort of just turning the
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Speaker 3: page and pushing through. And so it was kind of
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Speaker 3: symbolic I guess that they were able to do that.
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Speaker 3: You know, again, tonight, when Notre Dame started to get close.
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Speaker 2: In the files of what have you done for me lately.
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Speaker 2: We're already on to twenty twenty five, and I'm not
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Speaker 2: getting on Terry Slusher about this. I'm just I mean,
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Speaker 2: I'm laughing about it because it's a reality. I already
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Speaker 2: tweeted about this. Texas Ohio State is going to be
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Speaker 2: a one to two matchup, whether it's Ohio State one,
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Speaker 2: Texas to or the other way around. The chances that
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Speaker 2: it could be a night game, well, I have a
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Speaker 2: feeling that this might be. If all, if Fox picks
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Speaker 2: Ohio State Michigan one, this is probably going to be two.
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Speaker 2: And we know it's not an even steven type of process.
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Speaker 2: The way this works, Fox pays more money, so Fox
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Speaker 2: gets more first picks, and you know, of picking weeks.
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Speaker 2: I think the way that this could move is if
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Speaker 2: you sit there and because I mean that's what you know,
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Speaker 2: it's Labor Day, weekend, if you if you move it,
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Speaker 2: if you move it to Friday night, if you move
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Speaker 2: it to Sunday or something. And again I don't I
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Speaker 2: don't know the particulars. I've not had an opportunity to
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Speaker 2: talk to the few network people I still talk to
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Speaker 2: at this point, but I think there is a very
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Speaker 2: real chance. It's a new game. And I mean I
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Speaker 2: don't I don't. I don't say that with any sort
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Speaker 2: of perverse, you know, pleasure or anything like that. It's
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Speaker 2: just the reality. That's that's where we live. And you know,
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Speaker 2: the Big ten has won the last two national championship
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Speaker 2: and Foxes put stuff in the noon window and the
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Speaker 2: trains are still running.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of cool that, you know, you come
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Speaker 3: off the national championship and then the very next game
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Speaker 3: is going to be a top three or four matchup,
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Speaker 3: you know at lead. I mean, I mean may very
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Speaker 3: well be one versus two, but you know, a top
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Speaker 3: three matchup. Arch Manning's come into the show.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, maybe this is an electric We're
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Speaker 2: already talking about the Texas game. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: do the math as to how many days, but I'm
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Speaker 2: going to beg and plead to let Tom just post
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Speaker 2: this show with Mark and I as tomorrow morning so
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Speaker 2: I can put my feet up. I'm sure they're going
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Speaker 2: to rebroadcast this game in some variation or flavor all
18:48
Speaker 2: night on ESPN. There's no NFL coming up behind it
18:52
Speaker 2: in terms of tomorrow or anything else, and not have
18:56
Speaker 2: to deal with it. They've already closed the bar. The
18:58
Speaker 2: media bar is closed. All I have to show for
19:02
Speaker 2: it is a sun kiss and a water, which is fine.
19:04
Speaker 2: I need to dry out. It's been a it's been
19:06
Speaker 2: a long trip. It has been a long trip. It's
19:08
Speaker 2: been an expensive trip. So you know, help us out there.
19:12
Speaker 2: Sign up for Buckeye Huddle, super Chats. All of that
19:16
Speaker 2: certainly helps. There is a question. I have a couple
19:18
Speaker 2: starred right here, and I'm going to do them a
19:20
Speaker 2: little bit out of order. But I want to do
19:22
Speaker 2: what Mozart's ghost has. Where does this defense rank all time?
19:26
Speaker 2: Which years were better? I have Caleb as the most
19:28
Speaker 2: impactful player this year. Defense may defense plays different with him.
19:36
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the one year of Jeff Hafley that
19:38
Speaker 2: was an amazing defense, But look at the person now.
19:41
Speaker 2: But I think, I think as we get the gift
19:43
Speaker 2: of you know, some distance in time from this one,
19:47
Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about, certainly Caleb Downs, We're
19:50
Speaker 2: going to be talking about Jack and JT and Cody
19:54
Speaker 2: and and and it's just going to go on and
19:57
Speaker 2: on and on. I don't know if I've had enough
19:59
Speaker 2: to time to do a real deep dive into where
20:02
Speaker 2: I think it is. I mean, this defense has been nasty.
20:07
Speaker 2: They're going to be the haters that are going to
20:09
Speaker 2: point out it gave up thirty two to Oregon. But
20:12
Speaker 2: you know that was just kind of a of a
20:14
Speaker 2: fluky type of game. It just, you know, stuff happens.
20:17
Speaker 2: Ohio State was kind of its own worst enemy. Quinchan
20:20
Speaker 2: had a fumble, there was that weird on sidekick. I mean,
20:24
Speaker 2: it was not a It was not a straight up
20:27
Speaker 2: clean game. So you cannot just pick and choose, like
20:31
Speaker 2: I recognize these scores, but these fourteen points they didn't
20:35
Speaker 2: happen because I don't like the way that they happened.
20:37
Speaker 2: That's just not how it works.
20:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I don't know, like like I'm not taking
20:47
Speaker 3: it over the two defense. I think twenty nineteen had
20:58
Speaker 3: top to bottom, a little more star pass, and then
21:03
Speaker 3: there's like ninety eight was really good.
21:05
Speaker 2: That was an amazing team.
21:07
Speaker 3: I think it's probably somewhere around you know, like I
21:11
Speaker 3: would say maybe the fourth best defense for me of
21:16
Speaker 3: maybe the past.
21:18
Speaker 2: But you I mean five years, I was gonna say.
21:20
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is there eras and eras aren't
21:23
Speaker 2: every twenty years or forty years or whatever. The game
21:26
Speaker 2: has changed so much. I mean, it has changed just
21:31
Speaker 2: in the two thousands. I think that there are multiple
21:35
Speaker 2: eras that you can sit there and have. And if
21:37
Speaker 2: you get back to ninety eight, I don't want to
21:40
Speaker 2: think about the fact that we're talking about more than
21:42
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago that I mean, I've been out
21:44
Speaker 2: of college for several years at that point. But the
21:47
Speaker 2: game changes. I mean, you could certainly go back and
21:50
Speaker 2: look at some of Woodies teams and you know it's
21:53
Speaker 2: not necessarily going to translate. Well, so you know this.
21:59
Speaker 2: It's not baseball where you have the dead ball era
22:02
Speaker 2: and you have the live ball era. You know you've
22:03
Speaker 2: got two eras. That's just not.
22:06
Speaker 3: It's harder to play defense now. I mean it's harder
22:09
Speaker 3: to play defense now than it wasn't ninety eight or
22:11
Speaker 3: even in two thousand and two. I mean, the rules
22:14
Speaker 3: are are skewed towards the offense more so than they've
22:18
Speaker 3: ever been, so I acknowledge that. I mean, it's a
22:22
Speaker 3: great defense this year, and I think more than anything,
22:29
Speaker 3: certainly certainly more than ninety eight when the defense really
22:36
Speaker 3: needed to come up big. It did really pretty much
22:41
Speaker 3: every game except maybe Oregon, you could argue. I mean,
22:44
Speaker 3: but like even the Michigan game, the defense, I thought
22:48
Speaker 3: Jack Sawyer's interception was going to be this like iconic
22:51
Speaker 3: you know thing, and it just it didn't happen because
22:55
Speaker 3: of the offense that day, and he had his moment
22:58
Speaker 3: though he ye did. Yes, justice prevailed. But yeah, it's
23:04
Speaker 3: a great defense. It is hard for me to kind
23:06
Speaker 3: of like certainly again it's for me, it's easily in
23:10
Speaker 3: the top five that I've seen at Ohio State. Would
23:13
Speaker 3: I have it over two or nineteen o two was
23:20
Speaker 3: so good. You had talent at all three levels, and
23:26
Speaker 3: you had a team that for most of the year,
23:29
Speaker 3: the offense just put them in bad position. I mean
23:31
Speaker 3: they had they really had to win almost every game
23:35
Speaker 3: that year, especially once Clarette started having the stinger issues
23:40
Speaker 3: like that. That was every week that defense had to
23:43
Speaker 3: go in and be like, we really can't give up
23:45
Speaker 3: more than ten or thirteen points. We're going to lose.
23:47
Speaker 3: And so that that defense had so much pressure on
23:50
Speaker 3: it that year. And then what they did to Miami
23:53
Speaker 3: and the championship game.
23:55
Speaker 2: We did stuff to Ken Dorsey that nobody.
23:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just but but yeah, I mean this
24:03
Speaker 3: will be this will be one that they talk about
24:06
Speaker 3: this defense and and just the playmakers on it and
24:10
Speaker 3: some like some of the most iconic certainly some of
24:12
Speaker 3: the most iconic defensive plays in Ohio State history were
24:15
Speaker 3: made by this defense. So it's always a fun debate.
24:21
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's gonna be. It's gonna be fun
24:24
Speaker 3: to kind of try and you know, see see how
24:26
Speaker 3: history kind of remembers this team. But what what I
24:32
Speaker 3: what I also financially about this team is every other
24:35
Speaker 3: year of High State seems to would seem to win.
24:37
Speaker 3: It wasn't supposed to win. It's kind of the way
24:40
Speaker 3: it's worked. And then the year there's been so many
24:42
Speaker 3: years of High State it was supposed to win and hasn't.
24:46
Speaker 3: And this year, even though it was a total mess
24:48
Speaker 3: and roller coaster, the way it got there is probably
24:51
Speaker 3: the first year I can certainly in my lifetime where
24:54
Speaker 3: Ohio State you know, was started the year is you know,
24:58
Speaker 3: a really good bet for the national championship and then
25:01
Speaker 3: finished the deal because the other two were kind of
25:03
Speaker 3: out of left field.
25:05
Speaker 2: Does a defense get dinged a little bit in the
25:10
Speaker 2: perception when there isn't as big of a variance you
25:15
Speaker 2: talked about two thousand and two, the defense was at
25:18
Speaker 2: this level and the offense was largely pedestrian. Once Clourette
25:23
Speaker 2: kind of got dinged, w Yes, Holy buck Eye, you know,
25:27
Speaker 2: Chris Gamble doing some things. All of that's there. You know,
25:29
Speaker 2: I'm not crapping on that offense. But with Ohio State
25:35
Speaker 2: having a high powered offense here in this twenty four season,
25:39
Speaker 2: does that cheapen maybe some of the exploits, because again
25:46
Speaker 2: you're looking at Ohio State, who was a top ten
25:49
Speaker 2: scoring offense in the season.
25:53
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I don't think it cheapens it because
25:56
Speaker 3: certainly this defense got more help than that two team,
25:59
Speaker 3: and you know that is something that's taken into consideration.
26:05
Speaker 3: But you know, you're also talking about things where you know,
26:11
Speaker 3: oftentimes teams are playing from behind, and so you're that's
26:16
Speaker 3: when stats can get padded on you, when teams are
26:19
Speaker 3: throwing so much because they're behind and they and they
26:22
Speaker 3: can't kind of stick with the run game, and that's
26:25
Speaker 3: how you give up some late touchdowns and things can
26:28
Speaker 3: skew things the other way for you. So I don't think.
26:32
Speaker 3: I don't think the quality of this offense takes away
26:34
Speaker 3: from this defense. I just don't. I think, especially like
26:37
Speaker 3: if you look some of the bigger games where the
26:39
Speaker 3: offense really didn't you know, like Michigan and Penn State,
26:43
Speaker 3: and even I would I would argue Texas, like the.
26:46
Speaker 2: Offense Nebraska, Yeah, Nebraska, but they mean that offense was
26:52
Speaker 2: non existing?
26:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they they they have weeks this year where
26:56
Speaker 3: where the defense still had to, you know, really buckle down.
27:00
Speaker 3: So I don't. I don't think that's it for me.
27:04
Speaker 3: I just think there was something about O two. It
27:09
Speaker 3: was just so dominant. But again different eras, Like I said,
27:13
Speaker 3: I think again, I think this year's defense obviously is
27:16
Speaker 3: playing in tougher conditions in terms of how the rules
27:18
Speaker 3: are skewed toward all. Like I don't know how you
27:20
Speaker 3: really play defense anymore with targeting, and you know, just
27:25
Speaker 3: the way the rules are written, the way the rules
27:27
Speaker 3: are enforced. I just it's it's so hard to play
27:30
Speaker 3: defense these days. And so you know, I give the
27:33
Speaker 3: guys these great defenses now that we see, I give
27:36
Speaker 3: them a lot of respect because of how hard.
27:38
Speaker 2: It is to play defense in this era and a
27:40
Speaker 2: common thread and it's not exactly fair, but I'm still
27:43
Speaker 2: going to say it two thousand and two, Will Smith,
27:46
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Will Smith Junior though he's not really
27:49
Speaker 2: playing yet. But there's a there's a common thread because
27:52
Speaker 2: as writers, we love to be able to close the loop.
27:58
Speaker 2: I've seen some questions about recruit in Montana eight to
28:02
Speaker 2: eight Beats and Doug Shepherd. I've got to each of
28:05
Speaker 2: you have a question that I'm going to get us
28:06
Speaker 2: to here. But I think a lot of times people
28:10
Speaker 2: will sit there and say that there should be like
28:14
Speaker 2: this immediate influx on recruiting. Now things are different because
28:19
Speaker 2: it used to be you play your national championship, you know,
28:23
Speaker 2: on the first and the old Bowl system or you
28:26
Speaker 2: know around now in the BCS system, and you still
28:28
Speaker 2: have two weeks before the only signing day. Now there's
28:33
Speaker 2: an early signing day. It kind of takes things there.
28:36
Speaker 2: But I'll make the argument that this may be more
28:41
Speaker 2: impactful for twenty seven than twenty six because of the
28:45
Speaker 2: way things are. And I'll throw it to you to explain,
28:47
Speaker 2: because we've had the on Southern Swing. There's not a
28:50
Speaker 2: whole lot to talk about sometimes, so we've had these
28:52
Speaker 2: conversations at length.
28:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, it generally skips a year, so and not the
29:00
Speaker 3: twenty six is like they're in really good shape in
29:03
Speaker 3: twenty six to have a great class. It's not that,
29:07
Speaker 3: but generally you get that big bump for like the
29:10
Speaker 3: following cycle, so that in this case you'd be twenty
29:13
Speaker 3: seven because twenty six so many relationships have already been forged,
29:19
Speaker 3: and you know, twenty sevens are just kind of getting
29:21
Speaker 3: started with that. They've already they've already got two potential
29:24
Speaker 3: five stars with Jamiir Brown and Brady Evans.
29:28
Speaker 2: But it just.
29:32
Speaker 3: Because the twenty six is are look, these guys are
29:35
Speaker 3: gonna be taking official visits in like four months, three months,
29:40
Speaker 3: So like it's not just gonna all of a sudden switch,
29:45
Speaker 3: like you the hay isn't in the barn, but like
29:48
Speaker 3: the relationships have been established there for a long time already,
29:51
Speaker 3: and so it just it's it's still laid a little bit.
29:55
Speaker 3: And I think twenty seven. I think you're right. I
29:56
Speaker 3: think twenty seven will be the national champion and chip bump.
30:02
Speaker 3: But it's going to be a fun ride. You know,
30:09
Speaker 3: you get too much into next year already would be
30:11
Speaker 3: a little silly. But I've seen some kind of concernable
30:15
Speaker 3: they're losing this, they're losing that. And yeah, look they're
30:18
Speaker 3: going to lose a lot of people, but their best
30:22
Speaker 3: player on offense and the best player on you like
30:24
Speaker 3: or or both, battle like Cale Downs and Jeremiah Smith.
30:27
Speaker 3: That's quite a start for you want to build a roster.
30:32
Speaker 3: That's quite a start.
30:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And it's gonna be interesting. I think I'm
30:38
Speaker 2: I'm predicting and something. This has been asked and I'm
30:41
Speaker 2: not ready to answer it, and I don't. I don't
30:44
Speaker 2: predict transfers. You can't unring a bell if I sit
30:46
Speaker 2: there and say I think a kid's going to transfer,
30:48
Speaker 2: just like I don't want to put a kid in,
30:50
Speaker 2: you know, giving up his eligibility. It's just not a
30:53
Speaker 2: great situation. I know the lines are getting blurred more
30:56
Speaker 2: now that they're getting paid. It also used to be
31:00
Speaker 2: going to do that to a kid or whatever, you know,
31:02
Speaker 2: just a true amateur. Well are they true amateurs anymore?
31:05
Speaker 2: But I think we're going to see a couple of
31:07
Speaker 2: guys who leave. I mean, you know, and that was
31:09
Speaker 2: a thing after fourteen. They were all sophomores and they
31:12
Speaker 2: couldn't leave, and they all kind of were all busy
31:15
Speaker 2: doing their own thing in fifteen and that fifteen team
31:18
Speaker 2: was was ridiculously talented, but they couldn't focus their energy
31:22
Speaker 2: at some points. And you know, then we had the
31:25
Speaker 2: state game.
31:27
Speaker 3: That fifteen team wins it all in this format, yeah,
31:31
Speaker 3: because they get in and then there's only that just
31:34
Speaker 3: you know, get you get the guys for like, look,
31:36
Speaker 3: you got this three week run and you know, and
31:40
Speaker 3: that's that.
31:41
Speaker 2: And so.
31:44
Speaker 3: That I feel validated here because I keep saying, like
31:48
Speaker 3: the expanded Playoff nothing could be better for Ohio State.
31:53
Speaker 3: They're now going to go from being in the playoffs
31:56
Speaker 3: like every other year to being in the playoffs every year. An, yeah,
32:00
Speaker 3: you have to win a couple more games, but like
32:04
Speaker 3: everyone's got that. You know, everyone's got It's like, you know,
32:07
Speaker 3: Alabama doesn't have to win three or four games if
32:09
Speaker 3: they get in. I mean everyone's gonna have to do it.
32:12
Speaker 3: And just the more opportunities you get at it, the
32:14
Speaker 3: more you're gonna wins. It's just the way it's gonna work.
32:17
Speaker 3: And so I think the expanded Playoff is one of
32:23
Speaker 3: the best things that could have happened to Ohio State.
32:24
Speaker 3: Puts them in the playoffs almost, I mean almost, like
32:27
Speaker 3: what years. Would they have not made the playoffs every
32:31
Speaker 3: year and for like the last fifteen years they would
32:34
Speaker 3: have been in the playoffs.
32:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've they went through and they showed at least
32:37
Speaker 2: during the CFPER the four team era, Ohio State would
32:40
Speaker 2: have made it every year. I think they went through
32:42
Speaker 2: like the BCS. I mean obviously you had eleven, you know,
32:48
Speaker 2: which was kind of the fluky bad you know, the
32:50
Speaker 2: transitional year, and then twelve they couldn't go to the postseason.
32:55
Speaker 2: And is not going to talk about that one. This
32:58
Speaker 2: is an uplifting show. This is a pot show. We're
33:00
Speaker 2: not going to go there, but yeah, Ohio State's going
33:03
Speaker 2: to go there. And I want to sit there. And
33:05
Speaker 2: they need to have like a choke button on Twitter
33:07
Speaker 2: because when people sit there and talk about how crappy
33:10
Speaker 2: the first round games were and blah blah blah, and
33:13
Speaker 2: there really were only six teams worth of dam or whatever.
33:17
Speaker 2: If you want to advocate for less football GTFO, I mean,
33:20
Speaker 2: that's just what I have to say. If you want
33:21
Speaker 2: less football, then maybe you're not a football fan, maybe
33:24
Speaker 2: you're not built for this. I don't I don't think
33:27
Speaker 2: anybody who's up at two fifty three in the morning
33:29
Speaker 2: Eastern time, which is over a thousand people with us
33:32
Speaker 2: right now wants less football. The people who want less football,
33:38
Speaker 2: why don't you just go try HGTV or something like that.
33:42
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, I said, I said the same thing.
33:47
Speaker 3: You know, last or two weeks ago or whatever. I'm like,
33:49
Speaker 3: watched watch the NFL. There's gonna be blowouts in the NFL.
33:52
Speaker 3: And sure enough, like none of the first round games
33:54
Speaker 3: in the NFL were competitive. It's just you can't you
33:59
Speaker 3: can't force games to be close. And like even like
34:02
Speaker 3: you look at some of the other sports, like the
34:04
Speaker 3: NBA or the NHL with a seven game series, you
34:06
Speaker 3: may have a you may have a series go six
34:08
Speaker 3: or seven games, but none of the individual games are competitive.
34:12
Speaker 3: You may have like a six or seven game series
34:14
Speaker 3: where every game is someone is blowing someone else out.
34:16
Speaker 3: Like there is no guarantee these games are ever going
34:19
Speaker 3: to be competitive at any level when you get to
34:20
Speaker 3: the playoffs. It's just it's the nature of like playoff
34:24
Speaker 3: pressure and intensity, and it's just like you can't you
34:29
Speaker 3: can't manufacture it is. You can't manufacture close games. You
34:33
Speaker 3: can't rig it. It's it's impossible. So it's you're gonna
34:36
Speaker 3: have these, but you're gonna have great football too.
34:39
Speaker 2: And I kind of like there were some great games.
34:43
Speaker 2: I mean, the highlight video, put that on iTunes or whatever,
34:49
Speaker 2: the Apple Store put on, put that everywhere because people
34:52
Speaker 2: are gonna want to watch it. It was. It was
34:55
Speaker 2: a remarkable season in Ohio State, accomplishing just you know,
34:59
Speaker 2: things that nobody ever thought would be the case. And
35:01
Speaker 2: just to look at Ohio State, just the names on
35:04
Speaker 2: the front of the jerseys that Ohio State had to
35:06
Speaker 2: go through in the playoff Tennessee, Oregon, Texas and Notre Dame.
35:12
Speaker 2: There's no it's going to take an extreme hater to
35:18
Speaker 2: really try and sit there and say, you know, oh
35:20
Speaker 2: that just you know, that wasn't really all that impressive
35:23
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I said, you know, I said, at
35:26
Speaker 2: some other point, I think on the pre pregame show, Okay,
35:29
Speaker 2: you know, maybe Tennessee wasn't all that this year, but
35:32
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people pick Tennessee over Ohio State. Granted,
35:36
Speaker 2: the last vision in Montana promised we're getting to your question.
35:40
Speaker 2: The last vision we had was the Michigan game. So
35:43
Speaker 2: I'm not even I ain't even mad. I ain't even mad.
35:46
Speaker 2: I don't really care what people say, but I ain't
35:48
Speaker 2: even mad that people were doubting Ohio State. And I
35:51
Speaker 2: think it was the doubt. I think it was the
35:53
Speaker 2: flag plant, attempted flag plan. I think all of that
35:56
Speaker 2: just snapped them out of whatever the hell it was
36:00
Speaker 2: that was going on. And whether or not, again I'm
36:05
Speaker 2: keep it positive, keep it positive. But you know, whether
36:07
Speaker 2: or not it was a coaching issue, or it was
36:10
Speaker 2: a focus issue, or a combination or neither. I mean,
36:14
Speaker 2: Ohio State finally put the pieces together at the right time.
36:20
Speaker 2: And while there's gonna be a lot of people who
36:22
Speaker 2: are going to say thirty four to twenty three was
36:25
Speaker 2: far from a fully operational battle station, I mean Ohio
36:29
Speaker 2: State took care of business and outside of that first drive,
36:33
Speaker 2: you know, never really looked back. Yep, Montana eight to
36:38
Speaker 2: eight beats. Will Howard Stock just jumped from second third
36:42
Speaker 2: round to early second to late mid first. The accuracy
36:46
Speaker 2: and poise and leadership showed. I'm not in draft mode yet.
36:51
Speaker 2: I love the NFL draft mark and I cover the
36:54
Speaker 2: NFL scouting combine. This is you know there there there
36:59
Speaker 2: is a lot of love for this and we will
37:00
Speaker 2: have shows leading up talking about Ohio state draft prospects.
37:07
Speaker 2: If it came to a leadership, poise under pressure type
37:14
Speaker 2: of situation, yeah, you've got to have Will Howard up
37:18
Speaker 2: a lot higher. I think Will Howard has some physical limitations.
37:23
Speaker 2: I think in terms of arm talent, maybe Kyle McCord
37:27
Speaker 2: has a little bit more arm talent. But I think
37:29
Speaker 2: that I think that there's more hutzva when it comes
37:33
Speaker 2: to what, you know, what Will Howard is able to do.
37:38
Speaker 2: It is such a crap quarterback draft. It is such
37:41
Speaker 2: a crappy quarterback draft. I mean, Jalen Milrow like third
37:45
Speaker 2: in the class. He can't throw. He can throw a
37:48
Speaker 2: deep ball and he can run. That's all he can do.
37:51
Speaker 2: Will Howard, we have seen plenty of eighty percent games
37:54
Speaker 2: out of him. He was eighty one percent in this game.
37:57
Speaker 2: Seventeen of twenty one, started off thirteen of thirteen. It's
38:03
Speaker 2: really easy, I think to want to push Will Howard
38:08
Speaker 2: up higher. But I think once you get all of
38:11
Speaker 2: the NFL weenies in on this, they will pick him apart.
38:15
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know where he will fall to,
38:18
Speaker 2: but I think that he did show a lot during
38:22
Speaker 2: this playoff run.
38:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he helps himself quite a bit here
38:28
Speaker 3: the last month. At the end of the day, it
38:32
Speaker 3: is one of those drafts where I don't think everyone.
38:35
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a wide variety of opinions
38:37
Speaker 3: from like NFL people on the quarterbacks. I don't think
38:41
Speaker 3: there's gonna be much of an established packing order. So
38:43
Speaker 3: in that sense, all it takes is like one team
38:46
Speaker 3: to kind of like fall in love with him, and
38:49
Speaker 3: he'll do well in the interviews, and you know, his
38:53
Speaker 3: mid range accuracy was very good this year. Like there
38:56
Speaker 3: are some things there, but ultimately to think he's probably
39:00
Speaker 3: the middle of the draft guy, and I think he's
39:02
Speaker 3: played his way. I think he played his way from
39:04
Speaker 3: like late round bubble to like firmly in the middle
39:08
Speaker 3: of the draft. That's my thought on it. Now, we'll see,
39:13
Speaker 3: we'll see what the NFL people are saying here over
39:16
Speaker 3: the next several weeks. It will be kind of an
39:20
Speaker 3: interesting pro day workout.
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Speaker 1: C J.
39:24
Speaker 3: Strouds was just so good a few years ago. I
39:28
Speaker 3: don't know how we're gonna be able to duplicate that,
39:29
Speaker 3: but it will be interesting to kind of see how
39:32
Speaker 3: he looks in that. I just think there are some
39:34
Speaker 3: limitations in terms of his arm strength, and so we'll see.
39:39
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got intangibles, he's got size, and again,
39:45
Speaker 3: I think his mid range accuracy I think greatly greatly
39:48
Speaker 3: improved this year from when he was at Kansas State.
39:53
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of before the playoff run. I
39:56
Speaker 2: had him mid to late Day three, and I think
40:01
Speaker 2: I tend to over inflade Ohio State players a little bit.
40:06
Speaker 2: You know, you you cover these guys, you talk to
40:08
Speaker 2: them a lot on the record, off the record, you
40:11
Speaker 2: want to see them do well. I think he's got
40:14
Speaker 2: himself to late Day two, like really late day two,
40:18
Speaker 2: you know, end of the third round, maybe maybe the
40:21
Speaker 2: fourth round. But I've seen plenty of first round quarterback
40:27
Speaker 2: bus and I've seen plenty of quarterbacks later in the draft.
40:30
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna talk about TB twelve or anybody
40:33
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, that's where everybody goes. That's the
40:35
Speaker 2: freaking blueprint TV twelve remember this, and he showed up
40:39
Speaker 2: in his underwear and blah blah blah blah blah, ain't
40:42
Speaker 2: gonna get into ain't gonna get into all of that.
40:45
Speaker 2: But you know that's how I feel there. I had
40:48
Speaker 2: one more. I had one from Doug Sheppard that I
40:50
Speaker 2: wanted to get to. So, I, if there is a
40:55
Speaker 2: revenue sharing, well the players get a cut up the
40:57
Speaker 2: playoff money. Five thousand dollars tickets would have to a
41:00
Speaker 2: nice bump face value on the tickets was like between
41:04
Speaker 2: five thirty and like nine hundred. I think I think
41:07
Speaker 2: that club was over a thousand. Five thousand dollars tickets
41:11
Speaker 2: is secondary market, so that doesn't necessarily change. I think
41:17
Speaker 2: all of those numbers were kind of already baked into
41:19
Speaker 2: the equation of what's there. I mean, obviously there was
41:23
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about, you know, Notre Dame getting it's,
41:26
Speaker 2: you know whatever, its postseason is twenty million dollars, not
41:30
Speaker 2: being in a conference, not having to share it, et cetera,
41:33
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. They're going to find lots of
41:37
Speaker 2: avenues for players to be able to get money. But
41:40
Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to be sure to jump in
41:42
Speaker 2: and say that the five thousand dollars tickets, that's not
41:45
Speaker 2: what it says on the ticket. That's not that's not
41:47
Speaker 2: the money that is going to the kitty or anything
41:52
Speaker 2: like that. That's the money that is going to the
41:54
Speaker 2: person putting it on the market. That's what's going to However,
41:58
Speaker 2: that is set up so to very different things. I
42:06
Speaker 2: Am going to scroll down a little bit more because
42:08
Speaker 2: those are the three questions that I saw at once
42:12
Speaker 2: one point. Asian Pashareen who our favorite band? Mom? Y'all
42:16
Speaker 2: still live? Hi, Kevin and Mark? Hello Doreen. Wow, what
42:21
Speaker 2: a you know, what a what an evening? If I
42:25
Speaker 2: remember right you were at the game. I think I
42:27
Speaker 2: saw you posting that on social kind of you know,
42:30
Speaker 2: crazy run and you know you you will have the
42:33
Speaker 2: memory of the final band performance or your child being
42:40
Speaker 2: a game where Ohio State won the national championships, So
42:43
Speaker 2: you will remember that forever. They will remember that forever.
42:47
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I can't think of a better,
42:50
Speaker 2: you know, a better outcome. So I'm just I'm just
42:53
Speaker 2: thrilled for you on that. But yeah, stay warm. It
42:57
Speaker 2: is cold. It is cold cover here.
43:01
Speaker 3: It's three degrees. I saw like my negative nine tomorrow.
43:07
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, Oh Jesus. I I I hope that my
43:12
Speaker 2: garage door opens. I hope it doesn't freeze to the ground,
43:15
Speaker 2: because I don't know how the hell else I'm getting
43:17
Speaker 2: in my house. I might have to move in with
43:21
Speaker 2: Steve hell Wagon for a day or something like that.
43:23
Speaker 2: He's driving me back from from the airport. That's just crazy.
43:29
Speaker 2: Better warm up by Sunday, That's all I'm saying. Better,
43:31
Speaker 2: better warm up by Sunday. I'm scrolling down here a
43:34
Speaker 2: little bit uh minus eight real feel right now? I mean,
43:38
Speaker 2: just come on, man, whatever the Alberta clipper birda clipper
43:42
Speaker 2: can bite my butt. I mean it, seriously, just awful.
43:47
Speaker 2: Dreen saying indeed we will. I mean, that's just you know,
43:49
Speaker 2: there's so many great stories. And as we close in
43:54
Speaker 2: on the four hour mark, and I don't know how
43:56
Speaker 2: how far we want to take this. It's it's three
43:58
Speaker 2: in the morning, it's four after three. At some point
44:00
Speaker 2: they're diminishing returns. I know everybody's gonna want to talk
44:03
Speaker 2: about this forever. I've got a press conference in less
44:07
Speaker 2: than six hours. So Tom's gonna come back here. He's like,
44:10
Speaker 2: let's record a morning show. And I'm gonna say, we
44:13
Speaker 2: already did Mark and I did it, and that's that.
44:17
Speaker 2: But what what are you going to remember most about
44:22
Speaker 2: this postseason run? What is what is going to be
44:26
Speaker 2: that indelible memory and I know it's really unfair to
44:30
Speaker 2: ask it. I mean, you're still in the moment, and
44:32
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's like, oh, I'm just still peace, love,
44:35
Speaker 2: dope or whatever. But you know, nobody's had time to
44:38
Speaker 2: reflect upon it.
44:42
Speaker 3: Probably just the way the defense finally all clicked, especially
44:45
Speaker 3: that defensive line, just kind of the realization of the
44:50
Speaker 3: potential that I think everyone knew that defensive line had.
44:54
Speaker 3: I think that's what I think. That's it for me.
44:58
Speaker 3: You know, Jack and Jay, he took a lot of
45:01
Speaker 3: criticism over the years, and you know, they were five
45:05
Speaker 3: star guys and you know, at times didn't play like it,
45:10
Speaker 3: and the fans certainly let them know that. Just yeah,
45:16
Speaker 3: just them kind of realizing their potential here down the
45:20
Speaker 3: stretch and showing everyone, you know, the type of football
45:23
Speaker 3: they could play. I think they both really helped themselves
45:25
Speaker 3: for the NFL.
45:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going to remember how this team
45:32
Speaker 2: just willed themselves to success, whether or not it was
45:40
Speaker 2: coming right out of the gate and obliterating teams like
45:44
Speaker 2: Tennessee and Oregon or having to be a little bit
45:47
Speaker 2: more workmanlike against Texas and Notre Dame. Big players made
45:53
Speaker 2: big games. While there were some mistakes along the way,
45:57
Speaker 2: they were limited, they played a lot cleaner than they
46:01
Speaker 2: did before. I feel that a lot of the constraints
46:06
Speaker 2: were taken off of the team in certain regards, and
46:10
Speaker 2: we are going to hear more as time goes on
46:13
Speaker 2: about this player's meeting, and you know, I think some
46:19
Speaker 2: of it just is going to stay in the house.
46:21
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you sit there and have tough
46:23
Speaker 2: conversations with your family about something and you're you're not
46:26
Speaker 2: broadcasting it to the world. But I think we're going
46:29
Speaker 2: to learn more about that. And it would have been
46:32
Speaker 2: very easy for Ohio State to fold. It would have
46:34
Speaker 2: been very easy for that to happen, and we're having
46:37
Speaker 2: a very different discussion at that point. Ryan Day, I'm
46:43
Speaker 2: not sure here on January twenty first, as it is
46:47
Speaker 2: the twenty first, I'm not sure if he is the
46:50
Speaker 2: head coach of Ohio State at this point. And I
46:54
Speaker 2: saw the tweet from Ross Ellinger of Yahoo after he
46:57
Speaker 2: talked to Ross by Yorke, and you know, Ross b
47:00
Speaker 2: Yorke was very critical of the people that made stuff
47:03
Speaker 2: personal and everything else and reiterated that Ohio State has
47:07
Speaker 2: the best coach in America. There's just so much there.
47:11
Speaker 2: I think that we will have to revisit this even
47:15
Speaker 2: in a week. Let Tom Tony myself get off the road,
47:20
Speaker 2: you know, let us you know, let us all have
47:23
Speaker 2: you know, a minute to you know, see level ground.
47:27
Speaker 2: But I you know this is going to be one
47:30
Speaker 2: I'm not going to soon forget until I get a
47:34
Speaker 2: little bit older and forget everything. But we're at three
47:39
Speaker 2: fifty nine, so let me do one final, one final search.
47:43
Speaker 2: Are you okay with this kind of columnist? At four hours?
47:45
Speaker 2: You want to keep rolling? I've got more energy, I mean,
47:48
Speaker 2: I got more sun kiss. But again, I've got a
47:51
Speaker 2: press conference at nine. Let me look, I got a
47:56
Speaker 2: message from Jerry, all right, I will send that. I
48:01
Speaker 2: would say, if I were a betting person, to look
48:05
Speaker 2: on the YouTube machine YouTube buck hom slash Bucket huddle
48:09
Speaker 2: around twelve forty five pm, maybe a little earlier, maybe
48:15
Speaker 2: a little later. You catch my drift mark. That seems
48:18
Speaker 2: to be the prevailing the prevailing thought there. So the
48:24
Speaker 2: Buckeyes are not screwing around after their nine o'clock presser,
48:28
Speaker 2: going to Hartsfield, maybe getting some maybe getting some chili
48:32
Speaker 2: dogs and some onion rings from the varsity over there
48:35
Speaker 2: and getting home and hitting the books and the mats
48:39
Speaker 2: for Matt drills. So Doug Shepherd Senior saying, we need
48:43
Speaker 2: to let these guys get some sleep. I'm checking out
48:46
Speaker 2: fellas go to bed. So here here, I second that
48:51
Speaker 2: I do I have a quorum? Do I have a
48:53
Speaker 2: Do I have unanimous consent to that?
48:56
Speaker 3: I mean if the uh arrival in Columbus is on me?
49:01
Speaker 2: So yeah, but you got a couple hours later than
49:05
Speaker 2: I mean I do.
49:06
Speaker 3: But I also I have a three year old, so
49:08
Speaker 3: there's only I'm only allowed to sleep so much.
49:11
Speaker 2: I get it. So maybe we should call it, Maybe
49:13
Speaker 2: we should call it. But I want to thank everybody
49:16
Speaker 2: out there for this edition of Buckeyes tomorrow morning as
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49:29
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Speaker 2: Mark being out of the Woody us wrapping up the
49:35
Speaker 2: nine am presser. Once Tom and Tony get on the road,
49:39
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49:41
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51:59
Speaker 2: We love you all, you love us. Let's just you know,
52:02
Speaker 2: come on over to the back. I had a last question,
52:04
Speaker 2: last question, though I had Ray Wraggs asked it three
52:07
Speaker 2: times and was like, damn it, please answer the question.
52:10
Speaker 2: So y'all expect a seventeen type class for twenty seven.
52:13
Speaker 2: I think our twenty sixth class will be star studed.
52:15
Speaker 2: We're gonna get loads of five stars in the boat
52:17
Speaker 2: this summer, y'all will see. I mean, twenty seven already
52:21
Speaker 2: in Mark's the recruiting guy, so I'm only going to
52:24
Speaker 2: say a little bit. I'm gonna throw it to him
52:25
Speaker 2: and though we're I'll call it they're already you know,
52:28
Speaker 2: shaping up well. But I'm going to sit there and
52:30
Speaker 2: say it is a long ways away. I think the
52:32
Speaker 2: best news is Ohio State did not get any commitments
52:36
Speaker 2: during the championship game because none of those kids ever stick.
52:40
Speaker 3: Yeah that was good news. Yeah, Like, look, twenty six
52:45
Speaker 3: will be good. They've recruited well ever year under Ryan
52:48
Speaker 3: Day and back through Overmyers, So I don't think twenty
52:51
Speaker 3: six is going to be like a down year or anything.
52:54
Speaker 3: I think twenty six will be another very strong class.
52:56
Speaker 3: I just think if you're looking for that like national
52:58
Speaker 3: Championship bump, it's more likely to happen in twenty seven,
53:02
Speaker 3: where they've already got to five stars committed. So that's
53:07
Speaker 3: shaping up to be really special, and again I expect
53:11
Speaker 3: twenty six will be very good as well.
53:14
Speaker 2: So there you go, Ray Rags, we got to you.
53:16
Speaker 2: We got to you, you asked, we delivered. We win
53:21
Speaker 2: undefeated once again. Buckeye Huddle, great show. We can't do
53:25
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53:28
Speaker 2: Ohio State fans still with us at three thirteen in
53:31
Speaker 2: the morning, and we could probably go for two three
53:34
Speaker 2: more hours, but we all need to get some sleep,
53:37
Speaker 2: So buck eye dreams everybody out there. I want to
53:40
Speaker 2: thank Mark Gibler for joining me for this portion of
53:43
Speaker 2: the show. Whether or not we called it a Buckeyes
53:45
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Morning or not remains to be seen. I want
53:48
Speaker 2: to thank Tom or Tony Gerdaman for carrying that part
53:52
Speaker 2: of the show. I also want to thank Devin rat Ratcliffe,
53:56
Speaker 2: Mickey Pettitt, Gary Guarantee. Right. I wanted to thank everybody
54:02
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54:16
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54:20
Speaker 2: i'm gonna call it a night. Thanks for watching us,
54:22
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