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#228 - For Azeroth!: “Tab Targeting Solved!” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Tehran for the Kirin. Tor and REO for calendar,
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  organists our cars. Not die.
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  The Lich King, thus Endora for the alliance for Azeroth.
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  hello, and welcome back to another episode of for Her off.
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  I am one of your hosts Manny and I am joined as always by the
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  adventurer, know the Spell slinger live live.
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  How has the World of Warcraft? Been treating you this week
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  sling and spells every day. That's all I do is just I just
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  sling spells it at my enemies. That's that's all I do know.
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  And nothing else is. It's just that, no, the World of
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  Warcraft Alpha has Been treating me fantastically, but I haven't
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  really done much in the World of Warcraft in either, either like
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  live production versions of the game this week, because I've had
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  a very busy week, having started a new job and whole bunch of
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  other stuff going on in my life. But that aside the alpha has
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  been treating me fantastically because because Demon Hunters
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  are now officially part of dragon flight.
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  The look on your face is just yeah.
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  Yeah. Oh wow, demon Hunters are here.
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  And who demon hunters, and warlocks are here.
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  And who were locks and 00. Shamans, and we've gone through
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  this, we've gone through this. I'll collect the bets will see
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  what you had lined up on. I am not so happy with Demon
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  Hunter because Havoc having its talents or fine, but I play
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  Demon Hunter as a Vengeance tank Demon Hunter and they do not
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  have there. Alison.
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  But we're getting ahead of ourselves because that's all
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  part of the news. We have you been playing some
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  classic aside from aside, from just like logging in and doing
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  dailies. I haven't really done much
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  inside of classic. Like it's this weird or gold
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  gol. No not yeah, I'm close.
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  I'm close. I'm getting close.
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  But there's going to be there's going to be a lot of fundamental
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  changes with with how like gold making Works in classic.
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  Wow. Whenever we get Get the pre
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  patch this upcoming Tuesday after this episode airs.
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  So I'm going to be spending a lot more time in the game at
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  that point, mostly because I will have more than one button
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  to press on my shaman. Finally, so it'll make it'll
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  make going around and doing all the quests a lot easier.
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  And also there's changes to to like the the quest rewards that
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  that are coming. So it's like there's a whole
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  bunch of more incentive to go back and do all the old old
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  quests to generate that, for like free gold.
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  And then also like with the talent changes and everything is
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  just going to be a better experience.
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  So I've like I've been doing like bare minimum.
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  With with like just getting like the the big hitter dailies done
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  every day and like trying to like generate that passive gold
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  through doing that. But yeah, I I still am on track
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  to get to get my epic flight and mind other Drake before the
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  actual Restless King expansion drops which is that's the goal.
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  That's Let's go. That's all I can.
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  Really ask for, how are you? I thought now that you would
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  have, I guess, presumably, maxed out your professions before
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  wrath came out that you could use their professions to like,
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  make some gold as well. Well since we're in the end of
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  the expansion in the like waiting for pre patch era just
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  like we are in retail currently like it mean, it's a different
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  story in retail because there's people still actively rating in
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  season 4 and although it is is a much lower.
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  We're percentage of the population that would normally
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  be rating in a regular season. There still is like some level
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  of demand and upkeep within the within the economy for those
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  consumables. But that that economy is like
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  completely crashed in in classic at least on my server.
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  So it's kind of its kind of like yeah I have my Alchemy Max and I
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  could be making a little bit of gold there but the time
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  investment that it would take in order to get To that point, that
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  I could be generating more gold through doing doing Alchemy
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  stuff. Is greater than the time
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  investment of just hopping on for 30 minutes and getting some
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  dailies done. And so that's that's about and
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  that's this really realistically all that.
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  I have time to do right now at this, at this particular point.
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  So there's there's a lot of stuff that that I could be
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  doing. Yes, very true.
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  I could be doing a lot more but there's a lot there's a lot
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  going on so I have to have to spend my time wisely and the
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  most efficient time spent that I have is just from from
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  generating that gold from daily. So that's that's all I've been
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  really doing and it's serving me well enough.
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  Okay, well for me, I've been spending my time on, of course,
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  retail modern, whatever you want to call it, the shadowlands
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  Edition because one thing that I've been doing is just selling
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  stuff on the auction house because you know, you're saying
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  that we've got more people actively rating season for has
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  kept that going and there's this very sharp line.
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  Some people are just like Been there done that.
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  I'm not doing anymore and they're out.
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  Others have been really diving deep into season for enjoying it
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  having those twists. So if you are in a fairly strong
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  team, Of like you know, sufficient rate awareness these
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  affixes. Just give you so much power that
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  it's made the raids easier. But if you have a team that
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  maybe had issues with rate awareness, juggling to get
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  through these things before this additional wrinkle difficulty,
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  maybe the straw on the camel's back or maybe you're already at
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  that point and this does not help at all.
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  It is very I would say. Polarizing.
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  These affix is what I'm getting from the community though.
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  Most people are saying that this is actually better than if they
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  had not done anything at all where we would have had just an
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  absolute low. It allows course the economy to
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  continue especially with nine point two point seven, making
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  the auction house just obscenely fast.
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  It has made A new a fix and Mythic plus is is banging.
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  It is so much fun to get like 20 percent issue, haste or Mastery,
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  or crit and a lesser amount of Versatility.
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  And at the end of the dungeon use, like you've got a permanent
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  permanent bloodlust running, it is so much fun.
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  I'm glad someone's having fun with Mythic plus because like
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  you could you could you can put this is so much fun.
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  You could put the best gear possible in the game in Mythic
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  plus and exclusively in Mythic plus I still probably wouldn't
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  run it. Okay.
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  Okay, that's, that's why we're part of the same show because we
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  got different angles on stuff. Different enjoyment of all of
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  this. Some people are going to be
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  creating alt some people are not going to be creating all some
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  people are going to be focused on the auction house.
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  Some people are not, people are going to be classic.
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  People are going to be going through and doing retail and
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  Some people are going to be focused on little Community
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  event that happened this week which was the wow, variety show
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  and I got to participate in that you did, didn't you?
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  Yeah. Um, this was this was a lot of
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  fun in some ways and kind of frustrating and others.
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  I think just in general, having that Community participation at
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  such, a high level was immediately a plus.
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  For this is if I was not streaming and it was just like,
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  oh here's a bunch of people that are really into wow.
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  Like I am, that would be fantastic.
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  I think my experience was actually marred a bit.
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  The fact that I was trying to stream so I was trying to engage
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  with my chat and then also there was a bit of a delay.
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  So I had to kind of listen in to see what like what when things
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  were going to get going. Like they weren't, I wasn't one
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  of the celebrity if people playing, I didn't have pray.
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  Somebody being like, hey, Manny be ready in 5.
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  I had to like check to make sure that I was actually part part of
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  it. But the celebrities that they
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  had were, they were. Wow celebrities.
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  They weren't like I think it one point where be like, oh man, if
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  they get like mr. T and you could do as mr.
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  T. Mohawk.
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  Or they have, they have like, who knows?
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  All these like celebrities that played?
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  No, never went that high. But we had some like, you know,
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  homegrown Stars. We had I we had Taliesin never
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  tell hosting. We had Sloop bag and Was it
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  tally was was the other Warrior and then of course, hazelnutty.
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  And the the activities that they did were fun activities that
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  didn't require you to, like, master your, your chosen class
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  and specialization it was a leveling Blitz where you got to
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  try level as far as you could and of course, my phone goes
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  off. And, you know what?
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  I'm not even gonna edit that out.
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  I'm just going to turn it to silent here, and I apologize,
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  too. Our listeners, we are
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  professionals. We are professionals not today
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  but yeah it was a leveling Blitz.
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  It was a scavenger hunt and it was a quote, unquote footrace
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  the foot. Race is what I participated in.
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  It was just a Mad Dash across kalimdor over to Eastern
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  kingdoms, back to kalimdor. Really fun.
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  But man, you get that many Wild players and of course,
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  somebody's going to do everything they can do to game
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  the system. And really, when it was the
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  leveling Blitz that was the for celebrity contestants,
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  hazelnutty, did, well, and ended up winning that we had.
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  We had everybody doing pretty it pretty good.
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  I was bringing up the rear There, but she's always a class
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  act. So it was great to have her like
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  getting the most interaction because of the, the like,
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  catch-up mechanic they had they had like a wheel of Misfortune
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  sort of thing. We love.
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  Wow, that was like, they're the blue shell thing, but she played
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  it up. Well, I'm glad that I am
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  somewhat glad that she was in last place because of how she
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  played. She played it and made it
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  interesting. She wasn't always like I'm going
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  to hit that first person first. The person she spread the love
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  as it were and made it perfectly.
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  Yeah, and made it a very interesting race for the first
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  event and when they were like, okay, you can't strafe or there
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  was a miscommunication on one of the punitive things because it
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  was people who were doing it for the fun of it, weren't trying to
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  be Cutthroat when there was a miscommunication there, like,
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  okay, well, you know what, I didn't do it.
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  Right at first. And I know my time is elapsed,
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  but I'm going to do the the it properly, for the full time,
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  even though it went through. So it was a lot of exactly what
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  I wanted from this camaraderie, fun conversations, good,
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  sportsmanship. That went through into the
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  scavenger hunt where the team captains, those four people were
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  then captains of a team that went through.
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  I think that one wasn't as good to watch because you were only
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  watching, two, team captains, and people on the team could
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  solve stuff without their Captain being there, which
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  rented was off screen. It was very much like a lot of
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  like, oh was hazelnutty. Involved in actually finding two
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  or three of the five things that they had to find in the area or
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  maybe she was like running around at the time and didn't
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  and wasn't there for the actual discovery of whatever clue it
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  was. Mmm.
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  And so that one felt a little bit weaker.
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  I wish we had kind of been in the voice comms of whatever
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  person we wanted to follow. And then we got to the foot race
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  and the foot race will had the largest participation because it
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  was just like, I want to say like 50 people and it made a
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  huge swarm. It was very cool to be in the
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  middle of that pack or at later points.
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  I fell into like maybe the end of that pack and it was like
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  seeing the stretch just to stretch out your boy, Manny did
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  not perform well did not perform well in the foot race.
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  So fortunately that is amazing. Tune it, maybe better luck for
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  me. Yeah.
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  Um but like that's because it was so many people, that's where
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  we kind of got in people, sort of trying to like game the
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  system as much as possible, there were people who were like,
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  okay, I'm going to be a zandalari death knight and I
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  want to have this particular lower buff, so that I'll have
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  the fastest possible speed indoors and Outdoors, and that
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  death knight buff. Came in really, really decided
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  the game. They were like, 3 people who did
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  the death knight, which meant they had on a Pale Horse, which
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  meant that their Mount speed was faster and the race was 99% in
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  Outdoors. No, like, I will go up to say,
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  like, 99.9% Outdoors. So that extra amount speed
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  decided the race was that? Okay, so Because they that
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  talent that on a pale horse or not talent but that that mount
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  speed buff is similar to the Mount speed buff.
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  That Paladin's gate with Crusader Aura, is it not?
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  Hmm. But you were level, 1000 level
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  tent. So to explain the explain the
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  rules of the footrace a little bit just because we're I'm
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  talking about this, you had to make a level 10 character.
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  That was an Allied race on The Horde side, on a particular
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  server. And so with that permutation,
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  they also made sure that you couldn't use any heirloom gear
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  or anything like that. You couldn't use any toys, you
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  couldn't use have Camp, will travel.
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  There's like the the Set up camp thing that the pope.
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  Yeah, the Voltaren. Yeah.
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  Yeah. But the one thing that they
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  failed to cover off was that yes.
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  Death knights with this on a Pale Horse, for double writing
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  speed. Yeah, one out the day.
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  Um, which whatever. Again I was doing it for for the
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  fun of it. And I was like, well, okay, I'm
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  just going to see how well I can do.
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  But there was a little mix-up and apparently one of the
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  goalposts The way it worked is that everybody's rushing to go,
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  post one and then as soon as the first person got the goalposts
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  one, the revealed go pose to. So you would get to go post when
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  then go to go post to so on. And so on part way through there
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  was an issue where the ferry from booty Bay over the ratchet.
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  Oh no, Was stuck or didn't wasn't coming.
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  So they teleported everybody. The ratchet to like give
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  everybody like OK restart. Let's do this. and then the Go
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  post after ratchet when they let us go from ratchet.
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  Actually got leaked. And so some people knew where to
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  go right after without the first person getting there and it just
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  it, it sort of marred that part of the experience.
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  But yeah, I don't want to put too much weight on that because
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  They put on such a fantastic show.
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  It was great to participate in. I think it was genuinely more
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  fun to participate that then to put on a show and I don't think
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  I would stream it again. If I were, if I were to
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  participate and I hope they do it again.
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  Mmm, it was me to stuff. Yeah.
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  It was just a fun thing to participate in and I've done
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  similar sort of things with the mega guilds.
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  Like a ie has like, That or maybe when you're doing like
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  running of the Gnomes or running of the trolls or running up the
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  beef. Yeah.
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  Right. I mean, the running of the
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  trolls and running in the Gnomes, like, those, those are,
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  like, strictly speaking. Those are like Community, like
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  gathered things with know, like clear objective in mind, other
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  than cause Mayhem like that. That's the purpose of it.
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  And that like, so it's a little bit different of a ballgame with
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  with regard to that, but those type of community events are
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  like, vitally important. And have done like a tremendous
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  job in in rallying the, the community within World of
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  Warcraft, to do some really incredible things.
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  So like, yeah. And and I will, I will say this
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  probably to my dying breath that the the community Inn in and
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  around World of Warcraft is like some of the best community in
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  the world. Like you believe people that
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  everybody and everybody who plays found fancies like Final
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  Fantasy Community, great woodwork.
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  Media toxic well. Okay there's a difference I
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  guess I guess I have to qualify that by saying yeah the World of
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  Warcraft community that I participate in is phenomenal
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  like this some of my best friends that I've ever made in
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  my entire world have come from the World of Warcraft Community
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  yourself. Included and no.
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  Yeah, it's all right. You can have a very soft spot.
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  I have a very soft spot for it for this community in my heart.
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  And yeah yeah, that's all this. All I want to say.
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  So anytime anytime stuff like this happens like anytime cool
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  Community event driven things happen within the World of
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  Warcraft. I'm all here for it 100%.
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  Yeah and that's that's what this was.
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  It was a lot of community fun. And I'm really thankful that
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  they did that. I hope that they do it again.
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  I hope that they switch around this, the celebs and bring in
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  some some new people as well, just to like, spread that love,
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  it's great to like, put some some of these faces in.
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  Obviously they started strong hazelnutty.
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  Deeds like pretty much no introduction for the wow
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  Community. I does not eat introduction to
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  the world community and I think that They bring in names of
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  equal measure and maybe dig a little bit deeper, they can also
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  find some people as well and maybe like, some additional
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  events would be cool. I'd love to see in the future.
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  Maybe a dragon riding race off to see who can get like the
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  fastest times. Absolutely.
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  That would be fantastic. Yeah.
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  So, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing it again and I had heard
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  that there was a lot of collaboration To put this for
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  Ford Ferris, who is a new person at blizzard was deeply involved?
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  In this definitely Jessica AKA fist, right was involved in this
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  and and they had a good support team and everything working
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  there so it was great to see them doing something a little
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  bit different than like you know, Cloud9 vs Echo versus
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  method part 28 again. Yeah.
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  Yeah, which I mean not to say that those Bad.
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  But like there's so they happen so often and there's not like
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  like there, there are a whole lot of like Community Driven
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  things like Community organized events that happen throughout
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  the year but Seeing seeing the organization coming from
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  blizzard. Itself is nice.
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  It's nice because it's, it is a, it is an endorsement of, of them
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  to say, hey, let's come and make some some positivity.
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  Let's let's create positivity in this in this world and that's
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  always a good thing to see ya. But with that said, let's talk
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  about you-know-who dragon writing leads right into
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  dragonflight so, this week, we got a new alpha build.
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  This is the seventh week in a row, new-build after new-build
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  after new bill, they are just machine gun shooting these out.
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  So, this is Alpha phase 7. And this week, we didn't get as
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  much of like Big new zones because we've actually seen all
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  the zones. And last week, we were able to
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  level through each Zone all the way up to cap.
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  So now we're having the introduction of one of the
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  remaining dungeons. This one is the halls of
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  infusion dungeon that's added. And this is a huge dungeon
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  almost Mega dungeon size. There are, of course if it's got
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  the names Halls of, you know, this is going to be a Titan
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  facility. And it's got some pretty varied
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  environments in terms of what are what's putting out, as well
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  as some? This is a Max Level dungeon.
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  So it's got some relatively challenging mechanics at this
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  point. I like from what I was putting
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  through like I definitely want to see this on Mythic when all
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  of the abilities are running together but but like they were
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  some some cool abilities. Stuff for for this, including
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  the Frog boss, the giant frog boss which I felt was like
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  pretty cool but that's not all one of the edgy Story, the last
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  class to get its talents. As you have said in the in the
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  pre-show demon Hunters have gotten their talents.
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  Great for you, who plays havoc not so much for me, who plays
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  Vengeance, because Vengeance did not get there.
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  Talents done. So we have the class tree that I
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  can look at and be like, ooh, and then there's like, you know,
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  the the Havoc stuff, which is like, okay, you're right, you're
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  standing but arresting, you know what this means, right?
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  You know what this means. You have a new baby save going L
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  to know if you say they saved the best for last, put it away.
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  Put it away. When moving on, maybe they saved
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  the best for last. Okay, okay, I got it.
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  I got it. Okay, we're good.
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  We can move on. Okay.
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  Seriously, though, seriously the Havoc talents are in and allow
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  not yet implemented talents, like, more than half yours, it
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  feels like portions of the tree just dead.
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  Not yet implemented. Yeah.
• 25:51
  Like, so, go through some of them to get to the stuff that is
• 25:54
  currently active. So just feels very weird to be
• 25:56
  testing even Hunter right now. Yeah, not to mention like I did
• 26:01
  run around and do some like open-world content and we did.
• 26:04
  The noku defensive the other night, and I played Demon Hunter
• 26:10
  in that dungeon and it was it was an experience because
• 26:14
  currently on the alpha whenever you, whenever you I-beam into
• 26:19
  blade, dance into Into Cash, strike it automatically resets,
• 26:25
  the the cooldown on I-beam. So you can just Spam I-beam like
• 26:32
  it's a three gcd cycle of just Being a beam over and over
• 26:36
  again. And it's quite ridiculous
• 26:39
  because there's another talent that it's one of the only Talent
• 26:42
  that's implemented. That whenever whenever you went
• 26:50
  everywhere with Fury before you dive into David Hunter talk,
• 26:55
  would it be sufficient to say that even without all of the
• 26:59
  points, activated demon Hunters are in an Opie situation and you
• 27:03
  can't see it going live. This way, especially when
• 27:06
  they've had more on top on it, it's broken, its bouquet like it
• 27:09
  is, there is no way that this version of Demon Hunter makes it
• 27:12
  to life and we actually are going to talk about this in a
• 27:14
  little bit. But a week is, this isn't for
• 27:17
  Argus. Man, this is just for Argus,
• 27:18
  we're talking for Asimov, The General, the general thing.
• 27:23
  Like I I want the Demon Hunter talents to come out and I
• 27:27
  definitely want to dig into them, but for people who are
• 27:30
  interested in that, that's when I invite you over to my stream.
• 27:34
  We do our talent talk and we dig deep into these, but right now
• 27:39
  they are not fully implemented on either spec.
• 27:44
  One of the specs doesn't have anything and the class tree also
• 27:48
  has some issues, but it's exciting, it's definitely
• 27:52
  excited. Especially when you're seeing
• 27:53
  some of the class, Synergy being reinforced, because Havoc is now
• 28:01
  getting sigils, which before was only For for vengeance and
• 28:07
  seeing them, mix it up a bit, like you were playing a build
• 28:11
  for Metamorphoses extends, and trying to, to Really concentrate
• 28:17
  on that part, where, as in previous ones, it's mostly being
• 28:22
  something. That is either a random proc off
• 28:25
  of a B, fa or were they called the?
• 28:33
  I don't want to say condolences YY Singh condolences.
• 28:37
  What were, they called a BFA that you will answers for, you
• 28:40
  know, having to think about bfayolle, you know this?
• 28:43
  No, no. But in PFA in the, we had the
• 28:48
  Essences know. It was kind of words, right?
• 28:52
  No. Next shadowlands.
• 28:53
  That's the shadowlands. Somebody's going to be screaming
• 28:56
  at us, the Azurite. No, that's just, no.
• 29:01
  That's right. Powers were The first part man,
• 29:04
  I'm thankful e out of the part where I can where I'm starting
• 29:08
  to forget. Vfa, maybe that'll be out of my
• 29:10
  mind forever, maybe right, maybe, but whatever, whatever
• 29:15
  gonna remember right now, you like, but you, but you're
• 29:17
  getting them proc to go into to go into metamorphosis that would
• 29:21
  last for a short period of time in shadowlands, it has been very
• 29:26
  much that you haven't had a. You haven't really had that.
• 29:33
  I think that in Legion this spec was just introduced.
• 29:37
  So you really, did you have anything that could like proc
• 29:40
  you into demonic? I don't, I don't believe
• 29:45
  wondering if there was like, the only thing, the only thing we
• 29:47
  had was the was the talent that made I-beam activate activate
• 29:55
  metamorphosis and that, I don't think there was anything in
• 29:59
  Legion that extended the duration or I think it, I think
• 30:04
  the power was something like, the Legendary Power that we had
• 30:06
  access to was something that made it to where like chaos
• 30:10
  strike, criticals reduce the cooldown of I-beam, so we could
• 30:13
  get into it more frequently. But otherwise, it wasn't like we
• 30:18
  didn't have anything that it extended, the duration of
• 30:22
  metamorphosis itself. So this this is something that's
• 30:27
  relatively new like the concept of having a play style of Of
• 30:33
  like accruing duration of something for the Demon Hunter
• 30:37
  is something that we have been playing with in the form of
• 30:41
  sinful brand, where we're I-beam was extending the duration of
• 30:46
  sinful brand on our Targets in shadowlands.
• 30:50
  So they've taken that concept and kind of rolled it into
• 30:52
  metamorphosis. But something of note, is that
• 30:56
  in this talent tree, we have access to every shadowlands,
• 31:05
  Ability. The the Covenant abilities.
• 31:08
  Yes. Covenant, Kevin Aviles.
• 31:10
  Thank you. We had, we, when I have access
• 31:12
  to the Covenant abilities for everything except for sinful
• 31:18
  brand, like we have the hunt, we have Fire To The Flame and we
• 31:21
  have a listing decree that we can get access to within the
• 31:24
  within the talent trees, which is nuts.
• 31:27
  It's absolutely nuts that we have access to it to all three
• 31:31
  of them. But we also just have the Like
• 31:35
  the the gist of sinful brain and what made it so powerful and
• 31:39
  enticing to us, just rolled in, to the spec through another
• 31:43
  talent and in the form of instead, increasing the duration
• 31:47
  of our metamorphosis. So it's all around like,
• 31:51
  fantastic. And I am here for it, and I
• 31:55
  can't wait to see the changes. But what I was going to say
• 31:57
  earlier, I wasn't going to get into the Weeds about the
• 31:59
  talents, we're kind of like the Sara Lee, but what I was going
• 32:03
  to say is that We have this first iteration that they've put
• 32:06
  on the alpha build this week and then within days like literally
• 32:11
  like three days, not even three days.
• 32:13
  I think there was a blue post that came out.
• 32:16
  That was basically just like hey so the whole talent tree is like
• 32:20
  completely scuff we've reorganized it and it's coming
• 32:22
  out next week like complete overhaul of the talent tree that
• 32:28
  you're seeing now. So like don't get used to
• 32:29
  anything you're seeing. It's like gonna be completely
• 32:33
  different in the by the The next build gets out so like they're
• 32:37
  already just like, yeah, this is not working.
• 32:41
  Yeah, which is good to see. It's good to see ya.
• 32:44
  We're going to see major changes for for demon Hunters.
• 32:48
  Including hopefully the last spec, but we are still seeing
• 32:53
  major changes for a bunch of the different classes.
• 32:57
  So we've linked to all the major ones in our in our show notes.
• 33:04
  Make sure that you either go to the Discord at bit.ly slash fast
• 33:10
  Discord to see the show notes and go through to all the links
• 33:14
  for the changes. We've seen changes for warriors.
• 33:16
  We've seen changes for warlocks, including a huge changes to
• 33:21
  Affliction, which is being catching my eye.
• 33:24
  We've seen changes for shamans monks, Mages getting huge
• 33:28
  changes of ochres getting some radical balance shifts to bring
• 33:34
  them sort of in Line with other people as well as a list of
• 33:38
  changes for death Knights and just like you were saying, demon
• 33:41
  Hunters had been getting a flurry of activity on the class
• 33:45
  forums with the changes that are going to be coming up soon.
• 33:49
  Beyond the class changes, we have seen, of course some
• 33:54
  changes for end game which is what we're now moving into
• 33:58
  testing. So War mode, World quest have
• 34:00
  been added to. The dragon Isles, we have seen
• 34:04
  The professions. Now with mining profession,
• 34:07
  getting a rework re-crafting being enabled though.
• 34:13
  At this point, I don't think that there's a significant
• 34:16
  amount of people actually crafting to like recraft except
• 34:21
  that it unless they're doing it themselves.
• 34:24
  We have seen changes with the UI, the UI adjustments.
• 34:28
  Continue to spread into new things.
• 34:30
  This week, we're seeing party frames and the buffin.
• 34:34
  Debuff. It's being added.
• 34:36
  There is a bug with that unfortunately, that I suffered
• 34:40
  where my weapon in chance. As Enhancement Shaman, we're
• 34:47
  just getting duplicated all over my buffing and I had basically
• 34:52
  all of my other Bots pushed out because it was just showing the
• 34:56
  to weapon Buffs over and over and over again.
• 34:59
  But, you know, Alpha is Alpha, we're still getting some things
• 35:03
  shifted. You were just talking about how
• 35:06
  we were on a dungeon and there seems to be this weird latency
• 35:14
  bug sort of thing for the people affected.
• 35:17
  Like I got affected by this personally for the people
• 35:20
  affected. It just feels like the entire
• 35:22
  dungeon is lagging like mad and I had to like reload my you
• 35:29
  first I was shutting down everything else to say like is
• 35:30
  this this an issue of like my my connection speed or whatever.
• 35:35
  No, I did a Reload. And it was fine for a bit and
• 35:40
  then it started happening again. And then when I did a reload, it
• 35:43
  was fine for a bit. So it seems to be something
• 35:46
  wrong with the programming or yeah.
• 35:48
  Some graphical issue that's causing it.
• 35:51
  But on your head and I was like moving, like a cutout.
• 35:57
  Yeah. But like literally it was like,
• 35:59
  it was like the world had been turned into a chessboard, and
• 36:03
  your character was just like teleporting between chess board
• 36:07
  locations. Yeah, so it was definitely
• 36:12
  something strange, but the other part is that we saw some changes
• 36:17
  in the dungeon itself for the offensive.
• 36:20
  The wind tunnels are so much avoid if you can avoid them,
• 36:25
  avoid them because they're no longer push you up and you lose
• 36:29
  your momentum, which was something that you felt was bad
• 36:34
  enough. It was like oh please fix it.
• 36:36
  Well, He's decided to change it, fix it, but not in the way they
• 36:44
  wanted blizzard decided to go to war with me specifically know
• 36:50
  what I'm going to seven Hells in this world.
• 36:54
  I mean, I am too, like, if I'm being honest, but no somehow,
• 36:58
  somehow a change was made. And what's now happening,
• 37:02
  instead of you just being pushed up and your momentum being
• 37:06
  completely shunted. Now, you get, you enter it, you
• 37:10
  get pushed up and then it ejects you backwards from your
• 37:14
  direction. You went into the tunnel.
• 37:17
  So it works testing. Then we terms Adam.
• 37:20
  Yeah, if you're testing the new defensive, Right now this week
• 37:24
  in Phase, 7s build, do not do not, I repeat do not enter the
• 37:30
  wind tunnels. It is not worth it.
• 37:33
  Yep. Yep.
• 37:34
  So they're they're there to the point where I don't think
• 37:38
  they're rewarding enough and you can get from like one boss to
• 37:42
  the next without using them very much.
• 37:45
  Now, do not use them, but there were other things that were in
• 37:52
  the dungeon as well. Again they added a real, not in
• 37:56
  the dungeon but rather in the alpha as well.
• 37:58
  They added a press and hold exes accessibility thing.
• 38:02
  So like if you are chained casting the same spell over and
• 38:07
  over again, you can now just hold the button down and as soon
• 38:10
  as you're finished casting, at the first time you'll cast it
• 38:12
  again, the second time, this does not work with macros or
• 38:16
  items but this is something that I will enable because One.
• 38:24
  I don't want to wear out my keyboard by jamming 1000 times
• 38:28
  to get the spell going and to there are times where you are
• 38:32
  casting the same thing over and over again.
• 38:34
  Think the lightning Elemental for for Elemental shamans where
• 38:40
  each time you cast a lightning bolt, the next cast gets faster.
• 38:43
  So now hold one no down time. You will just keep casting
• 38:49
  faster and faster and faster assuming that you don't have to
• 38:53
  do. Something in between like, move
• 38:54
  out of crap and you don't have your don't have your spirit,
• 38:57
  Walker's Grace. Yeah, I do see an issue Rising
• 39:00
  with this particular functionality in the form of
• 39:04
  evoke errs with. They're empowered abilities but
• 39:08
  I have a cool thing that they do they do.
• 39:12
  But I'm still curious to see how it would interact because like
• 39:15
  if you clip a different spell with the beginning of your cat
• 39:20
  like it could, it could have some issues that That rise up
• 39:23
  with it. Okay, explain this I explain
• 39:26
  this totally. So what could theoretically
• 39:29
  happen is that you you press a button, you hold down that
• 39:33
  button and you're casting that ability that the one that you
• 39:37
  can just like continually recast over and over again and then you
• 39:40
  go to press, you're empowered ability without letting go of
• 39:46
  the first ability. Yes, and it Clips the first one,
• 39:50
  but registers. Empowered ability start, but
• 39:55
  then interrupts it and takes you off cooldown.
• 39:58
  So I feel like that could do something really play that's but
• 40:02
  but want to cast its portability.
• 40:04
  But I want to continue to hold the ability that I don't want to
• 40:07
  cast like that. Just why?
• 40:11
  Well any idiot like that? It's a toggle.
• 40:14
  Turn it off then. Yeah, I mean it is a toggle for
• 40:16
  layer. It is a toggle, but it could, it
• 40:19
  could just rise that like the situation could arise.
• 40:23
  Guys that you are holding down inability and you go to press
• 40:27
  another ability and you are just not fast enough on the release
• 40:31
  of the first one and it causes an issue with that.
• 40:33
  So like you have a 1 to 1.5 second cooldown on gcd you are
• 40:40
  casting a spell pressure. One within that 1.5 seconds.
• 40:45
  You think I need to can't ain't gonna catch me a number to wait,
• 40:48
  wait, let me finish. I'm gonna cast number two, and
• 40:51
  rather than take your finger off number one, and then Press
• 40:53
  number two, you decide to press them both and hope that that the
• 40:57
  game always benefits, you know know, right?
• 41:02
  That's the same as if I hit five keys and I hope that the game of
• 41:06
  interested in was that I want and always it means so many.
• 41:09
  Well, Manny Manny, here's the difference.
• 41:12
  What you're describing is intentional.
• 41:14
  I'm saying, unintentional consequence.
• 41:18
  That could arise from having this turned on.
• 41:23
  Don in how it relates to it. It's not, it doesn't have
• 41:27
  anything to do with intentionally holding a button
• 41:29
  down and then pressing another one to get an effect to go off.
• 41:33
  It is unintentionally. Not releasing that key fast
• 41:37
  enough that I'm worried about, which is completely different
• 41:41
  from what you're describing, okay?
• 41:44
  I'm still like baffled, how this is the fault of the it's not
• 41:49
  expensive, it is, but it's not the fault of the accessibility.
• 41:53
  Something to take into consideration when designing
• 41:56
  something like this. Right?
• 41:59
  You fat fingered a button and they got a design around that
• 42:03
  know you fat fingered Pete, better about it.
• 42:07
  Like, this is the quintessential, get good.
• 42:10
  And I like somebody, if somebody's like, hey, this
• 42:13
  affected me poorly, right. I am being an absolute CAD right
• 42:17
  now. I'm being an absolute CAD right
• 42:19
  now. However, I do not see a
• 42:23
  significant World where somebody presses.
• 42:28
  The one button. Holds a one button.
• 42:32
  And then means the cast another button, hits the other button
• 42:35
  without letting go of the first button and then the game doesn't
• 42:40
  see that your Chain Casting and somehow gets both it button
• 42:46
  inputs. At the same time, know the game
• 42:48
  would lock you out of the other button input and because it's a
• 42:53
  whole down from the last spell you played you would either
• 42:57
  never have casted. The second spell men be
• 43:00
  continuing the chain the first spell, or you would interrupt
• 43:06
  One of the cast's of the first Bell with the second spell and
• 43:10
  this accessibility thing would not cause you to cast a first
• 43:14
  spell again because that's not what this does.
• 43:17
  It is hold down and you will chain cast.
• 43:19
  It, it doesn't go. Hold down the button.
• 43:23
  And it'll line that as the next spell, it doesn't go.
• 43:28
  Hey, I'm going to accept this interrupt for the new spell.
• 43:35
  But also you're holding down spell one.
• 43:38
  So I'm going to ignore it at first and then consider it two
• 43:42
  seconds later like that to seems.
• 43:44
  I don't know how the, how that would be programmed to work like
• 43:47
  that, that doesn't even seem like what this would do.
• 43:50
  Like that to seems like an input error that is completely aside
• 43:54
  from this or the intent of this. What do you think that I'm
• 44:00
  proposing? They do know, I'm wondering how
• 44:03
  you suspect that this would actually work at this point.
• 44:08
  Right? You are.
• 44:10
  I've explained holding your holding down spell.
• 44:13
  One to continuously. Cast spell one.
• 44:16
  You then press spell to interrupting spell one.
• 44:22
  And then works. Yeah.
• 44:25
  Well, that's how it normally work.
• 44:27
  You would be casting, lightning bolt, and then you would
• 44:30
  interrupt it by putting in a new input to cancel it or like
• 44:34
  Empower spells where your casting one, empowered, spell
• 44:37
  and holding it down and then you press another button and it
• 44:40
  says, okay, you meant interrupted and they had a blue
• 44:43
  post about this. They're going to say well we
• 44:46
  believe that to be deliberate. So we're going to do that your
• 44:50
  new button input. Enter overrides that. okay, now
• 44:55
  you're holding down your initial input, you've overridden it with
• 45:00
  a second input and It what you're saying?
• 45:06
  Sounds like, because you continue to hold down your first
• 45:09
  input, when it would come back up.
• 45:12
  It's considered a new input, but it's not.
• 45:16
  Okay, okay. Is that what it is?
• 45:18
  That is my understanding of your thought process, correct?
• 45:24
  I, Yeah. Yes.
• 45:28
  Okay yeah but the game does like as far as I'm aware and as far
• 45:33
  as what I've done with this testing because I actually
• 45:35
  haven't done that. Like error thing, I was just
• 45:38
  holding down lightning bolts. If you like so I did it, I did
• 45:45
  see that. But like yeah if you interrupt
• 45:47
  it with a different button press or like let's say you start
• 45:50
  running somewhere, Right? Because the example, I gave was
• 45:53
  Spirit. Walker's, Spirit, Walkers Grace,
• 45:56
  I hit Spirit, Walker's, Grace, but Spirit Walker's Grace
• 45:58
  doesn't interrupt thing. So, I continued my cast, and
• 46:01
  then I was running running out of the bed and continuing to
• 46:04
  cast lightning bolt without ever having to let go of my one key,
• 46:08
  right? And then let's say something
• 46:11
  comes up and I want to do a lava burst, so now I hit lava burst.
• 46:15
  Well, I hit lava burst. It was an instant cast so I
• 46:18
  can't tell you. If it would interrupt it but it
• 46:20
  no longer considered Consider this part of the chain cast.
• 46:23
  So I had to hit one again to start doing lightning bolt
• 46:27
  again. Okay, we just I guess where I'm
• 46:30
  where I'm concerned is with the Empower spell specifically
• 46:34
  because my experience with how the casting of those spells
• 46:38
  works. It is very finicky at the, at
• 46:42
  the beginning, the outset of starting a cast of one of those
• 46:45
  abilities. So if there was something like
• 46:47
  if you like, there is a brief window whenever you press Is the
• 46:53
  the empowered, the empowered ability where if you let your
• 46:57
  finger off the key and then quickly like realize, oh crap,
• 47:00
  I've not intended to move my hand off that key and get back
• 47:07
  to pressing that key. Then it continues as normal.
• 47:11
  But outside of that window, which is within the global
• 47:16
  cooldown then It automatically cancels cast.
• 47:24
  Yeah, yeah and you get the full gcd as well.
• 47:27
  I've read, I've been in that so that's that might be an issue
• 47:32
  with empowered in the press and hold where I hate it.
• 47:36
  I hate that and I've always done the press and then press to
• 47:39
  release. So you have to do you have to
• 47:41
  press the 1 button to start it and then you press the 1 button
• 47:44
  again to say. Okay, I'm done with this.
• 47:46
  Yeah, right. That's how I that's how I play
• 47:49
  because I personally hate the press and hold Especially when
• 47:52
  you're doing your rotation and you know you just you hit the
• 47:55
  one button to do the empowered spelling like, oh no, I didn't
• 47:58
  mean to, and then it's like, oh, you canceled it.
• 48:00
  That buttons locked out for 1.5 seconds and you like.
• 48:04
  Yeah. So I guess me, I guess who the
• 48:06
  put this in and I do a press again.
• 48:08
  The other end of it is just like, I've been, I've
• 48:11
  conditioned myself into this play style of just like spamming
• 48:18
  the key to get to make sure that the the Actual key press is
• 48:22
  being recorded as the global cooldown is coming off.
• 48:27
  So like, this is an entirely new thing for me of like the concept
• 48:31
  of playing. Wow, and holding a button down
• 48:32
  in order to cast a button or to cast a spell like, both with
• 48:36
  both with regard to the Evoque hers to government.
• 48:40
  Yeah, empowerment abilities, and also with this new concept of
• 48:45
  having the press and hold to spam like that's like a
• 48:50
  completely new concept for me. And like, I'm personally I know
• 48:54
  I'm gonna have to do a lot of retraining in that, but I still
• 48:57
  think that it is worth considering the possibility of
• 49:02
  of that, the press and hold trigger still interrupting.
• 49:06
  Since its since pressing and holding that key, would record
• 49:12
  on that Global cooldown would still be able to fall within
• 49:17
  that window of interrupting the the empowered Cast.
• 49:22
  So I still think. Yeah.
• 49:23
  But like I think again as soon as you hit the empowered spell,
• 49:28
  you're no longer chaining the first spell and you holding that
• 49:32
  first button will not set up a new cast because it's like, no
• 49:36
  this isn't the same spell. Your you were just casting,
• 49:39
  okay, right? That's what breaks that
• 49:41
  disruption. Okay, yeah, that's fine.
• 49:44
  Then that's that's totally fine. I just you know voicing an
• 49:47
  opinion or voicing oh yeah I mean like it's a fair and I
• 49:50
  think your fear is more with Power ability and I, I guess got
• 49:56
  to look at a vocre more, and you're right using an ability
• 50:00
  like this, using the in power, as well.
• 50:02
  Does require a little bit of fighting against muscle memory,
• 50:06
  right? Stephanie's requires a little
• 50:08
  bit of firing against muscle memory, but for the people who
• 50:14
  don't like spamming maybe aggravate, something like even
• 50:18
  somebody who just has like simple carpal tunnel syndrome,
• 50:21
  right? Did not aggravate that.
• 50:23
  Yeah, we're learning not to like be jamming keys right?
• 50:28
  Would help and maybe it's better that way than be like.
• 50:32
  Well I guess I can't play Demon Hunter which is just to do.
• 50:35
  Did it random quiz right and being going?
• 50:40
  Like I guess I'm going to be playing the spell casters where
• 50:43
  I press a button every like 23 seconds.
• 50:45
  Instead, this gives them the ability to play Demon Hunter or
• 50:50
  one of those fasters thing. Things without having to spam
• 50:54
  and it's an option, it's a toggle.
• 50:56
  So, if that issue is a big issue, I'm sure they would
• 51:00
  address it. If that issue is an issue for
• 51:03
  particular people, they can choose maybe not to use this and
• 51:07
  the accessibility offers an option for people who can
• 51:11
  definitely take advantage of that accessibility.
• 51:16
  Yep, then. for some reason, you have the interact key added
• 51:24
  where that's always being a Interact key option added for
• 51:31
  interacting with objects and PCs.
• 51:33
  Is this for not interacting with your target but just something
• 51:37
  your mousing over. No, it's for approaching, this
• 51:44
  is something. This is something that is in
• 51:46
  like other like action MMORPGs like if you've ever played like,
• 51:51
  oh gosh, like like new world or a game similar to that that is
• 51:59
  more like action-oriented, like Mouse based combat inputs and
• 52:05
  that kind of stuff you have, you have a Interactive He that is
• 52:10
  bound by default. That is how you interact with
• 52:14
  objects in NPC's in the world. They've just added that to this.
• 52:18
  So it is it. Keep my default where you would,
• 52:22
  you just walk up to a to an object or in PC it highlights
• 52:28
  like with the whichever one is closest to you, is highlighted
• 52:31
  and you press the interact key, and it either like starts
• 52:34
  dialogue, or if it was like a Mining Node.
• 52:37
  For example, it would start minding the know Road.
• 52:39
  Okay, so this is this is like interact with the closest.
• 52:43
  Interactable thing. Yes.
• 52:46
  Okay, because the ability to interact with stuff has been
• 52:52
  around before, and that's why I was getting the confusion
• 52:54
  because way back in like Warlords, man, did I need this?
• 52:59
  Do you remember setting up your gear soon in the big, big
• 53:04
  bottleneck there? This is how I got ahead of the
• 53:06
  crowd by having interact with Target as my as my hotkey.
• 53:12
  So I didn't have to write Click or anything?
• 53:14
  Yeah. No this is this is a like this
• 53:16
  is a more automated system but is more automatic and baked in
• 53:20
  so you don't have to do any like Loops to get to that point,
• 53:23
  which it's been a long time coming that this has been
• 53:25
  something that's not like it's not been like absolutely
• 53:28
  necessary but it is an accessibility option that
• 53:31
  they're baking into the game Baseline.
• 53:33
  Where could have soldiers this on the foot race for for for
• 53:40
  most players that aren't going to go through and And and like
• 53:44
  do that customized setup of doing that like the primary mode
• 53:50
  of interacting with objects and NPCs has been through
• 53:54
  right-clicking or left, click or whatever.
• 53:55
  Like it's been through your mouse, like mousing over,
• 53:58
  whatever you want to interact with and and clicking on that
• 54:03
  object in order to interact with it.
• 54:05
  Now, you have the option of either doing Mouse interaction
• 54:10
  or having an interrupt or interfere A interact key set up
• 54:15
  so that you can more freely. Use your mouse for other things
• 54:19
  like camera control, which is like much more important to
• 54:21
  people like me. Yeah.
• 54:24
  But like I think the added part to this is that it is automated
• 54:27
  where it's like you press the key and it will go to the
• 54:29
  closest eligible object, interact with yes, whereas
• 54:35
  before you would still need to Target and then you could press
• 54:38
  a key to say interact with my current Target and along those
• 54:42
  same lines. And they've added an action
• 54:44
  combat system where you will automatically Target enemies as
• 54:48
  you approach them dynamically, switching between those various
• 54:52
  enemies based on where your cameras pointed.
• 54:55
  So, if I'm attacking something and, you know, the tab Target
• 55:00
  and you end up shooting, something 20 miles away, this
• 55:05
  seems to be the final solution to this where it's like, look at
• 55:08
  you. You the one I'm looking at your
• 55:11
  dead and York Camera will determine who you're targeting.
• 55:16
  You won't go and shoot Phil, who was standing by the bar.
• 55:19
  I getting a drink. You won't attack the people in
• 55:22
  front of you. So and someone has some bad
• 55:25
  memories of running with freewind stronghold.
• 55:32
  Terrell. Oh, my goodness.
• 55:33
  But this is, this is another thing.
• 55:36
  And so, here's the really cool thing about this about the
• 55:39
  action combat is that a, it's a toggle, so you can, you can turn
• 55:42
  on the action, combat mode, you can turn it on or off at your,
• 55:46
  at your leisure and it also works in tandem with regular tab
• 55:50
  targeting. So, if you do want to lock on to
• 55:52
  a Target in particular, you can still cycle through Targets this
• 55:56
  system, and if you manually cycle through targets, it
• 56:00
  automatically, Defaults to whatever Target you've cycled to
• 56:06
  and doesn't reset automatically with like camera turning or
• 56:10
  anything. So you don't have to worry about
• 56:11
  that. It's just it's just an aid to
• 56:14
  help you get into combat faster. So you don't have to like move
• 56:19
  your mouse to like like stop moving your camera so that you
• 56:23
  can select your target or like have to like tab Target through.
• 56:27
  If you're you know controlling your camera.
• 56:29
  You don't want to release your camera to the Then click a
• 56:32
  Target or, you know, it just makes it a little bit more
• 56:34
  smoother and gives you that that flexibility in your gameplay,
• 56:39
  which is the yeah. Yeah.
• 56:41
  I think I might try and learn to use this as my primary method of
• 56:47
  targeting because that would be a lot faster if I can do it
• 56:55
  right then, trying to click or trying to Tab and be like, okay,
• 56:58
  that's not quite right, like it's just like there's the
• 57:01
  skull. That, my RAID leader is marked.
• 57:04
  Look at it, Target it start pressing buttons, right eye.
• 57:08
  If this is responsive enough, I think I would use this as a way
• 57:13
  of just being just that much faster about stuff.
• 57:17
  So something that they've added in recent times something that
• 57:21
  I've noticed is that under the hood they've made it to where if
• 57:25
  there is a Target that is marked with one of the target markers,
• 57:30
  they automatically. Become priority targets within
• 57:34
  the tab Target system. So if you turn this on and you
• 57:37
  have a just people in your dungeon that are marking targets
• 57:41
  for you, whenever you do tab Target, it will automatically
• 57:46
  jump to those Mark targets. Or it prefers jumping to targets
• 57:50
  that are marked over targets that aren't.
• 57:52
  So, you can have a little bit more control over which priority
• 57:55
  targets you have, while utilizing the system of having
• 57:59
  your, your Target automatically selected for you whenever you
• 58:04
  approach enemies. So it's just, it's just getting
• 58:08
  you into combat that much quicker and that much more
• 58:11
  smoothly? Yeah, no I like this.
• 58:14
  I like this a lot. I'm gonna play around with it.
• 58:17
  I haven't tab targeted in years so I did not even know.
• 58:20
  That was a thing to have targeting has been the enemy for
• 58:23
  so long. Just too many Nolan Batman
• 58:25
  interactions with like you know, fun-loving hunters will say But
• 58:32
  tab targeting solved. I really glad.
• 58:35
  That's the headline of alpha phase seven for me.
• 58:38
  Whoo, targeting. Not not a dumpster fire anymore.
• 58:45
  Hmm. Okay.
• 58:47
  So before we jump into the next part, let's take a moment to
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  that's Faz. Okay, and we're back.
• 59:16
  So, the second half of this episode is an interview that Max
• 59:22
  did with, Ian has a Kostas This was half an hour jam-packed with
• 59:31
  just great questions. Max.
• 59:34
  I'm not sure if you're listening to this, probably not great job.
• 59:37
  Fantastic job and not attend. Yep.
• 59:41
  And I would say Ian, who is likely also not listening to
• 59:45
  this. Also did a great job with the
• 59:48
  answers. I know people give Ian a lot of
• 59:51
  lot of crap for evading questions and stuff, but these
• 59:55
  Both this was all on both ends in my in my humble opinion that
• 1:00:00
  neither then we'll ever hear. So you have taken the time to go
• 1:00:05
  through and get some major points out of this.
• 1:00:08
  And do you want to go through this?
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, absolutely. So the interview starts off
• 1:00:16
  Strong by Ian telling us basically did a voters are
• 1:00:22
  getting bloodlust and Paladin's that likely Not entirely not,
• 1:00:27
  not set in stone, but likely Paladin's will get it be.
• 1:00:30
  Getting a battle res. That is definitely a headline,
• 1:00:34
  but not how the interview started.
• 1:00:35
  But yes, that was, that was like, one of the biggest drops
• 1:00:39
  of like, what happened in this interview yet?
• 1:00:42
  Yeah, of course, getting bloodlust, that was, that was
• 1:00:45
  pretty much guaranteed. And then the exact thing that
• 1:00:49
  was said, was that another class would get a battle res and Most
• 1:00:55
  likely leading towards Paladin's, but not confirm
• 1:01:00
  paladins. I think that's, that's pretty
• 1:01:03
  cool. What are the class?
• 1:01:04
  Would you put it on though? Oh gosh.
• 1:01:08
  I mean so like Demon Hunter would make sense just because
• 1:01:12
  like Soul magic is something like Soul magic and Fel magic or
• 1:01:16
  something. That's like like deeply
• 1:01:19
  intertwined with with demon Hunters, we're like warlocks.
• 1:01:21
  And Demon Hunters like the basically the same class except
• 1:01:25
  one. Is melee and the other ones
• 1:01:26
  ranged. So I would, I would like to see
• 1:01:32
  demon hunters. Get that I just, I just think
• 1:01:36
  that considering that anduin was already doing a mass res, it had
• 1:01:41
  to believe however priest it has any value.
• 1:01:44
  Yeah, but he's, he's mixing in between you've never seen a
• 1:01:47
  priest where that kind of plate he was and he's running around
• 1:01:51
  with his father's sword. That this clearly it clearly a
• 1:01:55
  strength sword right here. You know, very wasn't running
• 1:02:00
  around with no intellect sword please.
• 1:02:03
  Right? Was currently crossing crossing
• 1:02:06
  at the Paladin territory and then he would DK another
• 1:02:10
  strength thing and they're like, okay, we'll put some runes on
• 1:02:13
  this strength sword, you already have and back in Wrath.
• 1:02:16
  They utilized intellect. Just saying same is true.
• 1:02:21
  If he's a Holy Paladin and he's got a intellect sword.
• 1:02:26
  But Warriors didn't use intellect sorts and that's where
• 1:02:30
  he got the sword from. They didn't you're right, you're
• 1:02:32
  a yeah, but no. I think, I think the three four
• 1:02:38
  runners for me are Paladin priest and Demon Hunter, just
• 1:02:41
  because just because like Demon Hunter, like they Demon Hunter
• 1:02:47
  and Rogue are like the only two classes at like they have a
• 1:02:50
  little bit of utility, but not not too much and that like kind
• 1:02:56
  of changes in that. Now, vengeance is going to have
• 1:02:59
  access to Darkness. Which is a huge, huge raid, cool
• 1:03:05
  down using four main gate that they haven't had up to this
• 1:03:12
  point. It's only been having that's had
• 1:03:13
  it. So that kind of like bringing my
• 1:03:15
  I didn't know this is me live live reacting and I'm sorry cuz
• 1:03:19
  there's no video so you just you can't hear the drool rolling
• 1:03:24
  down my chin. Oh yes.
• 1:03:27
  Keep going. But but so like demon Hunters
• 1:03:30
  are going to have, they're going to have like a The utility in
• 1:03:33
  the form of their, the fear Rune the silence Rune chaos Nova is
• 1:03:39
  going to be in both specializations now.
• 1:03:44
  So there is going to be like like the situation you will like
• 1:03:50
  like moment-to-moment combat utility is going to be there for
• 1:03:53
  demon Hunters but they don't agree silences solid for your
• 1:03:58
  half of it. So like the Sigil of Silence
• 1:04:00
  going over the to Havoc is Really good for them.
• 1:04:05
  What about chains is that it isn't, it is not in the class
• 1:04:09
  tree, okay? So that's still just Vengeance
• 1:04:13
  that well, so far, we don't know it, but you might rearrange it
• 1:04:18
  because like, you know, an AOE grapple that's gorfeins, has its
• 1:04:23
  place and every time gorfeins comes up, this can can work in a
• 1:04:28
  smaller area. So okay.
• 1:04:31
  Yeah, so Feel that they're getting enough, they're going to
• 1:04:34
  get a large boost to their utility so yeah you maybe you
• 1:04:40
  don't need it for demon Hunters. I think Paladin's are actually a
• 1:04:43
  pretty good place for it to be honest because outside of a
• 1:04:48
  Munich something. Hmm.
• 1:04:50
  Right. But you still like still like
• 1:04:53
  can be a like a huge, like swing in an encounter.
• 1:04:58
  Like I don't want to beat you know, better about They're being
• 1:05:03
  better about making the various things happen that you just grab
• 1:05:10
  a bunch of meetings and get to ignore the mechanic, right?
• 1:05:13
  So immunities aren't the be-all-end-all that they used to
• 1:05:15
  be. And that's why I say outside of
• 1:05:17
  the immunity what is Paladin really bringing devorah in
• 1:05:22
  constant concentration or a that's it.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah, right. So yeah and using both of those
• 1:05:30
  is at a Price through their own personal knee use because they
• 1:05:36
  don't want to be on those or is typically.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, they would rather be on, on retribution or oh, yeah,
• 1:05:43
  right. So, so yeah, but it makes sense.
• 1:05:47
  It makes sense to give it to paladins.
• 1:05:51
  I think, I think that like a lot of people throughout the history
• 1:05:56
  of like the those of us that have been around since, like,
• 1:05:59
  early days of World of Warcraft, like we see Paladin getting
• 1:06:02
  something overpowered and everyone just like collectively
• 1:06:04
  rolls their eyes because because it's Paladin and Paladin's have
• 1:06:08
  always just been like The Golden Child and they've gotten
• 1:06:11
  everything they've ever wanted forever and now they're just
• 1:06:14
  like, okay, well, have a be resin.
• 1:06:17
  We're just like, uh, fine, I guess so.
• 1:06:23
  I don't think so. I mean, A tie.
• 1:06:26
  I remember when their bubble used to reduce their their
• 1:06:31
  ability to actually attack. They had like a big throughput
• 1:06:34
  decrease on their damage when they were in a bubble and they
• 1:06:37
  remove that. And I thought that was, that was
• 1:06:40
  the absolute goat. Like what, why, why are you
• 1:06:42
  doing that? But I think that they've settled
• 1:06:45
  into a pretty good place. They're not the spoiled class
• 1:06:49
  know and I could see them getting this without much issue
• 1:06:53
  outside of Paladin. And I would actually say giving
• 1:06:57
  it to priest would be very cool, especially if they could do it
• 1:07:01
  in their angel form. Very cool.
• 1:07:05
  The just like Peter free one. When they, when they enter Angel
• 1:07:09
  form they just get like a bonus free one.
• 1:07:11
  That that would be cool, not, not even like a bonus free one
• 1:07:14
  but like just the ability to cast it in in that form at a
• 1:07:20
  faster speed because it's like the have a cast time.
• 1:07:24
  The only people who can really do it, instantly our death
• 1:07:28
  Knights everybody else has a cast time.
• 1:07:30
  Another Lobster to Precast. Rebirth is free.
• 1:07:34
  Birth is instant. Yeah, they changed it.
• 1:07:37
  It's been instant, I believe. So, okay, if I'm wrong, please
• 1:07:40
  someone correct me. I believe me birth is also
• 1:07:43
  mostly thought that the, the give-and-take of things were
• 1:07:47
  that, like, warlocks had the longest cast time, but could
• 1:07:51
  Precast it on somebody right? When you soulstone somebody
• 1:07:55
  death Knights could do it instantly, but it would take a
• 1:07:57
  lot of their resources, something like, 50 runic power
• 1:08:00
  or some Madness like that. Mmm.
• 1:08:04
  And Druids had the one that could bring you back up to the
• 1:08:09
  highest health, with the all of that sort of stuff, but it you
• 1:08:12
  couldn't skip around the cast time in any way you had to like
• 1:08:14
  actually cast it. Maybe, maybe I thought it has a
• 1:08:19
  shorter time than warlocks. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Because I remember, boots must be like, oh, my goodness is days
• 1:08:25
  me forever? Hey, it's like to Global
• 1:08:28
  cooldowns. You have to cast the the Warlock
• 1:08:31
  Soul Stone. But no, I think, I think rebirth
• 1:08:36
  in it. I'm not gonna be any show you
• 1:08:40
  something. Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  Like I don't know, you're not sure that's fine.
• 1:08:45
  I'd like to see where they fit. This in 44 Paladin's using up
• 1:08:49
  three. Holy power would be very scary
• 1:08:52
  or five. Holy power.
• 1:08:54
  Like, go go for the guys and I've only cheese you just don't
• 1:08:57
  want to music it at all. Do you correct?
• 1:09:00
  Three is enough to be like ouch now you're just like yeah I'll
• 1:09:04
  give it its I don't want you to ever use it.
• 1:09:06
  Forget you balance, your still the worst because Three, Holy
• 1:09:09
  power is the standard. Like, like if you look at here,
• 1:09:12
  you ceiling over Sounder ladies that you have like, that's that
• 1:09:15
  is the standard Word for everything that you're doing,
• 1:09:18
  like it's three. Holy power to do anything and it
• 1:09:21
  music silver Power Ranking them. Seraphim was five whenever it
• 1:09:27
  was introduced and I don't think they've had another five cost
• 1:09:32
  ability that's been added. So like I think it would be it
• 1:09:35
  would be nice if you put a five you're just basically to sail to
• 1:09:39
  tell him the Paladin that you hate them blizzard.
• 1:09:41
  Don't do that. Don't do that.
• 1:09:43
  That's just not right. Make it, stop it.
• 1:09:46
  Just make it stop it. Don't make it free.
• 1:09:50
  Where are you saying three? And I'm just missing.
• 1:09:52
  I'm not pronouncing it, right? You saying three are you saying
• 1:09:57
  free free with a nephew who? Okay now you're just being
• 1:10:02
  facetious maybe met. Okay.
• 1:10:05
  Okay so moving on infant in this interview.
• 1:10:10
  They talked they started talking about like like class design and
• 1:10:16
  that's like generally where the where the interview started was
• 1:10:19
  talking about class design and all the the iterations that have
• 1:10:22
  been happening in the alpha and came to a point.
• 1:10:25
  Point where they were talking about about Druids and priests
• 1:10:28
  in particular. And how seemingly every class
• 1:10:32
  that has been introduced or had talents introduced and the
• 1:10:36
  reworks been introduced in the alpha, I've had a lot of
• 1:10:39
  dialogue from the development team, talking about the changes
• 1:10:42
  that are being made. Notably however Druid and
• 1:10:45
  Priests have been nearly nearly radio silent with any changes
• 1:10:54
  that been coming through and Ians answer was like, yeah, we
• 1:11:02
  haven't been as as vocal about the changes coming with that and
• 1:11:09
  assured us that there are, there are things coming through
• 1:11:14
  talking about about the Druid and priest in particular, and
• 1:11:20
  I'd so must say, they didn't the very beginning of Of the, of the
• 1:11:25
  interview wasn't talking about dragonflight stuff they were
• 1:11:28
  talking about season 4 stuff, talking about the implementation
• 1:11:32
  of the, the changes that chap mechanics.
• 1:11:40
  What would what we could see what we could see coming forward
• 1:11:45
  from season four. Yes, but we're not going
• 1:11:47
  chronologically here. Let's let's not jump for that.
• 1:11:51
  We will swing back to that. But yeah, in terms of the
• 1:11:54
  communication, You're right, he he apologized, he said that they
• 1:11:59
  should do better to say that they are hearing the feedback
• 1:12:04
  and that changes are coming, but some designers like you have
• 1:12:08
  said, in previous episodes, have been talking up a storm Hunters,
• 1:12:12
  getting like day after day after day of, like feedback from the,
• 1:12:17
  from the devs. And like, this is something that
• 1:12:20
  that they're considering, or this is something that they,
• 1:12:23
  that they're thinking about yada yada yada.
• 1:12:25
  You've seen that and there's being differences between the
• 1:12:29
  class, the priests and Druids have been basically out on the,
• 1:12:33
  in the cold. Just like we said in our last
• 1:12:36
  episode that hasn't been any blue responses in Druid and they
• 1:12:41
  were one of the first. This was ready.
• 1:12:44
  First alongside death knight that like which makes them
• 1:12:48
  removed all of the first they were they were the first to be
• 1:12:52
  revealed when the alpha came it was M death, Knights priest,
• 1:12:59
  Rogues. And was there a fifth one?
• 1:13:03
  I believe there was a fifth. So, the first build, it was just
• 1:13:07
  death night, drew it, and evoker, and then know the week
• 1:13:12
  after they added priest in Rogue, right?
• 1:13:14
  Is no, no. But because we got the tree
• 1:13:19
  first built, there were only three that we really needed.
• 1:13:22
  It was death, knight Druid and invoker were the only three and
• 1:13:25
  they added they added in Priest. Like the priest was the first
• 1:13:30
  one added. After the first after the first
• 1:13:35
  phase, I believe the memories know why you are incorrect.
• 1:13:42
  You thank you for my quick little notes Here phase two
• 1:13:47
  which was July 19th. Introduced shaman.
• 1:13:52
  Prior to that in their Phase 1 build, they had The Druids that
• 1:13:59
  were announced with the death Knights.
• 1:14:01
  That was the first the first trees that they put out but that
• 1:14:04
  was before Alpha even came out and then before Alpha even came
• 1:14:07
  out we did see Priest. Rogues.
• 1:14:15
  And I believe there was a third. but I cannot recall at this
• 1:14:20
  point because they did it show of ochres because of ogres came
• 1:14:25
  with, with the first build, but it, but yeah, it's been so fast
• 1:14:31
  and furious. Like, you guys can forgive us if
• 1:14:34
  we don't remember the exact order of things that came
• 1:14:38
  through, but you're right. We the jurors have been the
• 1:14:42
  longest without much feedback at at all priest, right there.
• 1:14:48
  Right there with not getting again, the feedback.
• 1:14:51
  This is stuff that we talked about on the last episode and
• 1:14:54
  Ians Halogen that. But also said that, sometimes
• 1:14:58
  it's about the developers working on one thing, moving to
• 1:15:02
  another and getting that worked on.
• 1:15:04
  This is something that we talked about in our last episode, where
• 1:15:08
  it was. Hey, yeah.
• 1:15:10
  Yes, it feels bad to be priests or Druid where you've only gone
• 1:15:14
  in the first iteration and you haven't heard anything back
• 1:15:17
  since then, but that's still miles ahead of death.
• 1:15:24
  Rather of demon Hunters that before this build there was not
• 1:15:29
  a peep about them. That's still better than the
• 1:15:32
  monks who before last week hadn't gotten anything at all
• 1:15:38
  and are now finally getting their stuff implemented demon
• 1:15:43
  Hunters to this day, still don't have half their stuff, it
• 1:15:46
  implemented and what we we saw it may not even be worth giving
• 1:15:51
  feedback because of the sweeping changes that are coming through.
• 1:15:54
  So like, Are you going to give feedback on, I guess you put it
• 1:15:57
  on and hope they haven't completely scrapped that in the
• 1:15:59
  next build. But that's part of them trying
• 1:16:04
  to get things forward. That's part of it being Alpha
• 1:16:07
  and them not having everything in place right away.
• 1:16:12
  And Early Access means that yeah, like like having the
• 1:16:16
  earliest axis we've ever had, in the development process in my,
• 1:16:20
  in my opinion means that there are going to be gaps Before
• 1:16:25
  things you and I have been asking about the end game since
• 1:16:28
  before any of this Alpha stuff was even announce before we got
• 1:16:32
  like our sneak sneak in before anybody got in we still haven't
• 1:16:37
  gotten answers about that. We've gotten just like the first
• 1:16:41
  little bit of breadcrumbs in that, but that's because they've
• 1:16:43
  been building and working on other stuff.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah. And like, the primary focus with
• 1:16:49
  the first, these first builds has been around around the, the
• 1:16:54
  class. Annotation and like we have had
• 1:16:56
  access to the questing but that has been.
• 1:16:59
  It feels like it's been kind of incidental to to the design and
• 1:17:03
  they just have had that as something for us to do and have
• 1:17:07
  had that a little bit more focused in that they were doing
• 1:17:09
  it Zone by Zone throughout the weeks and incorporating the
• 1:17:16
  dungeons, you know, one or two at a time for like specific
• 1:17:21
  testing on those that they can start getting.
• 1:17:24
  The the implementation and changes for the Dungeons and
• 1:17:28
  actual content itself, like leveling content, and Dungeons
• 1:17:32
  and everything, starting to get all of that hammered out.
• 1:17:37
  But the primary focus has been on the class changes and making
• 1:17:42
  sure that the talents are are developed in a way that makes
• 1:17:48
  the most sense for the system that they've they've made.
• 1:17:51
  So the fact that we haven't really heard that, Run Android
• 1:17:55
  and priest has been a huge pain point for, for the community.
• 1:18:00
  But hopefully, hopefully it'll be something similar to what we
• 1:18:04
  saw. I think it was with Oh gosh.
• 1:18:09
  Which class was it? Was it broke?
• 1:18:12
  I think had like, like we got the first iteration of it and
• 1:18:17
  then we went a couple of weeks and then they just like came out
• 1:18:20
  with, like a huge, a huge post that was just like, here's all
• 1:18:24
  the changes that we're doing. Hopefully, it'll be something
• 1:18:28
  similar to that. Where we get like, huge huge
• 1:18:31
  amounts of changes that are being made and explanations for
• 1:18:35
  everything and kind of more like open dialogue.
• 1:18:39
  About the changes that are being made for Drew.
• 1:18:41
  Priest in the coming weeks but it's something that desperately
• 1:18:47
  is needed. Yeah.
• 1:18:49
  Yeah. And sorry I remember now Hunter
• 1:18:52
  Hunter was the other one because Hunters have been introduced
• 1:18:55
  early in our like the spoiled child AKA that constantly get
• 1:18:58
  stuff. So hunters came in on an early
• 1:19:02
  build like literally Week 1 and have constantly been getting
• 1:19:07
  like additional things put forward, but you're right.
• 1:19:11
  Right. I think that some of the design
• 1:19:14
  changes that we will see in these classes are also
• 1:19:18
  influenced by what people are saying about the about the other
• 1:19:21
  classes, how accessible there are, how many dead talents are?
• 1:19:26
  Also some of its going to be based on the what people have
• 1:19:29
  put forward so far. Since week one, it hasn't been
• 1:19:33
  ignored even if it hasn't been implemented on just yet.
• 1:19:37
  And again this is Them using their resources as they can to
• 1:19:44
  get stuff gets afford. But not going to get, let's say
• 1:19:50
  Druid perfect and ready to be released and then go and do
• 1:19:55
  priest and then make that perfect and ready to release a.
• 1:19:57
  All of these are going to be continuing to see iteration.
• 1:20:00
  And just like you had said, some of them are have landed way
• 1:20:06
  closer to the mark and so are getting smaller changes and some
• 1:20:09
  of them require far more fun. Mental changes and are getting a
• 1:20:13
  getting that as well. So you are exactly right on
• 1:20:15
  that. It's I'm not sure what the exact
• 1:20:19
  story is behind Jordan priests. There have been rumors floating
• 1:20:23
  around but I have not seen any verification on some of the,
• 1:20:27
  the, the talk that I've heard in various discords and stuff.
• 1:20:32
  Um, the other big bomb that came out pretty early was
• 1:20:38
  cross-faction guilds, so, Obviously, there's been stuff
• 1:20:43
  going on that people have loved being able to cross faction
• 1:20:47
  raids go into instances with like their friends across the
• 1:20:52
  faction divide. I have also been enjoying this
• 1:20:56
  even though I have many friends who made that horrible tragic
• 1:21:00
  mistake when they were choosing factions.
• 1:21:02
  Now I get to play with them and that's fantastic.
• 1:21:07
  I-i'm not gonna, I'm not gonna dunk on anybody.
• 1:21:10
  I was Alliance for a little bit too.
• 1:21:11
  Two guys, right? But now it's like I'm done
• 1:21:15
  people immediately before then. I don't know if you want to talk
• 1:21:21
  like a boot. Moving on, moving on
• 1:21:25
  cross-faction guilds are gonna be there.
• 1:21:27
  It's it. There are some technical hurdles
• 1:21:30
  despite what people were saying. Oh, it's ready.
• 1:21:33
  Remember in the, the PTR test of nine point, two point five
• 1:21:39
  Beaver, like, oh, I was able to sneak into an Since and get
• 1:21:42
  people to sign of guilt earlier. And so we made a guild so
• 1:21:44
  everything's ready. It's like no, there's still
• 1:21:46
  technical hurdles that they have to go through to.
• 1:21:49
  There's a lot of a lot of system decoupling that they have to do
• 1:21:52
  in order to get the to get the guild system to work cross
• 1:21:58
  faction. And it is it is like a big
• 1:22:02
  undertaking because like even even with just the even with
• 1:22:07
  just the the changes they made to be able to implement cross
• 1:22:11
  faction, instance content that came with a lot of unintended
• 1:22:17
  consequences of making those changes that they had to go back
• 1:22:20
  in the weeks after implementing that into the live game in order
• 1:22:24
  to have everything work properly.
• 1:22:27
  So there's there is a lot more a lot more going on than you would
• 1:22:31
  normally think, but they are they are he didn't give us an
• 1:22:36
  exact timeline or not anything concrete but did say that they
• 1:22:41
  Like to shoot for cross-faction guilds being implemented before
• 1:22:45
  the end of this expansion. So, hopefully, we'll be there.
• 1:22:49
  Hopefully will be there sooner than later.
• 1:22:51
  But again, that just that depends entirely on the team's
• 1:22:55
  ability to allocate the resources to be able to get that
• 1:23:00
  under way and get it implemented in a way that makes sense.
• 1:23:04
  So, we'll see. Yeah, but Circling back to
• 1:23:12
  talking about season 4 stuff. We could talk.
• 1:23:15
  We didn't sort of skip over that gate.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah. But they the question was asked
• 1:23:22
  of whether they were intending to bring the system that was
• 1:23:27
  implemented in season 4 with the deterministic loot into
• 1:23:33
  dragonflight and the answer that Ian gave to that was something
• 1:23:36
  that I was like fully expecting which That they like it, they
• 1:23:42
  like the, the ability for players to be able to, to have
• 1:23:49
  that kind of granular, bad luck protection.
• 1:23:54
  So they are likely going to be implementing a, like, a
• 1:23:58
  scaled-down version of the dinar system that we got was season
• 1:24:02
  for into, dragonflight where we'll be able to, to have some
• 1:24:07
  level of that going through. With with the expansion and how
• 1:24:12
  loot is going to be acquired. So that's definitely definitely
• 1:24:19
  something that I am keen on seeing how they Implement that
• 1:24:23
  within the, I don't think we're necessarily going to see a
• 1:24:27
  system like that implemented with Alpha, because we haven't
• 1:24:29
  even started rate testing. But definitely within the beta,
• 1:24:32
  once we start getting into that and they start doing the raid
• 1:24:35
  testing and they start doing all of that.
• 1:24:36
  I do do really, really really That they that they Implement
• 1:24:42
  that into the testing and have that be something that is
• 1:24:45
  visible to us, so that we can give feedback on how that system
• 1:24:50
  will play out in the expansion. Because if it is going to be
• 1:24:53
  something that's going to be a system-wide change, they're
• 1:24:56
  making to rating that something that's going to be pretty
• 1:25:00
  critical to get right or close to right from the outset.
• 1:25:05
  And then if any like, minor adjustments need to be made down
• 1:25:09
  the road. And then they can do that
• 1:25:11
  instead of having it start from a place of being not great or
• 1:25:17
  like really not good and having to like either scrap it
• 1:25:22
  altogether or having to like completely rework how how the
• 1:25:25
  whole thing comes together. But I think, I think the initial
• 1:25:29
  testing that they've done with a system similar to that in season
• 1:25:33
  four is very critical for implementing systems like that
• 1:25:39
  throughout the raid. Within, within dragonflight and
• 1:25:43
  hopefully expansions Beyond. I would say on this that they
• 1:25:51
  need to create a system that is As close to future-proof as they
• 1:25:58
  can make it and not completely themed about around the
• 1:26:03
  expansion. Or the dungeon I want something
• 1:26:06
  here that will stay consistent from tier to tier.
• 1:26:10
  And hopefully if I'm expansion to expansion.
• 1:26:12
  So no denier or Brokers that came from Shadowland know,
• 1:26:20
  Fiery, Ingot, whatever, that is the Vault of the Incarnate.
• 1:26:25
  I want something that is straightforward easy to
• 1:26:28
  understand think Justice and Valor from the past how each
• 1:26:34
  season your value word get converted over into your justice
• 1:26:38
  points. Your justice points would allow
• 1:26:40
  you to get stuff from the previous tier as a catch-up and
• 1:26:44
  The Valor would be stuff from this tear and you would get at a
• 1:26:47
  certain rate that to me is straightforward.
• 1:26:50
  Thing that once somebody gets it, they're set for the game,
• 1:26:54
  they don't need to understand. Oh, what's this Shard of
• 1:26:57
  domination and this Loot? And how do I get this going?
• 1:27:01
  And then the next one, it's I need to get ciphers from this
• 1:27:04
  and actually know the ciphers aren't the thing.
• 1:27:06
  I need to go get this currency to get my legendary that has
• 1:27:11
  been one of the biggest issues going from tier to tier 2 tier
• 1:27:16
  in modern. Wow, I do not.
• 1:27:20
  Want to be worrying about Essences this patch.
• 1:27:24
  Corruptions, the next patch. Whatever in the world you come
• 1:27:28
  up with as a patch after that, it's it's disruptive.
• 1:27:33
  It makes all of our casual players disengage further and
• 1:27:38
  further from the game and each of them means that you have to
• 1:27:43
  sink a bunch of resources into it, which could better be spent
• 1:27:47
  in more robust long lasting. Systems and I don't, and I know
• 1:27:53
  systems is a scary word for a lot of people but they exist.
• 1:27:58
  The game is based on systems how you do damage is a system, how
• 1:28:03
  you, how you, like get saved two instances as a system.
• 1:28:07
  The game is always going to be a bunch of systems.
• 1:28:10
  I just want those systems to stop being so obtuse and that's
• 1:28:14
  the biggest thing that I would want in terms of learning from
• 1:28:18
  season 4 is creating a template. And making whatever they
• 1:28:26
  finalize something that will last far into the future that
• 1:28:29
  they do not need to worry about going forward.
• 1:28:32
  Other than maybe some changes where it's like, okay this is
• 1:28:36
  this particular tear has 14 bosses, it's another Siege of
• 1:28:41
  Orgrimmar. So the rate at which you get
• 1:28:45
  something in a full lock out is going to be larger.
• 1:28:48
  So we're going to increase the prices on the vendor for Valor.
• 1:28:52
  That would be the biggest change that I would hope that they
• 1:28:55
  would have to conceive based on like, what bosses and stuff,
• 1:28:59
  which really goes along with all of the other ways that we get
• 1:29:03
  loot that aren't so deterministic.
• 1:29:06
  That means that I expect this to work alongside the great Vault
• 1:29:11
  so that the default thing gives us this thing.
• 1:29:15
  So we can speed up getting one of those deterministic.
• 1:29:18
  Lutz. Oh, I didn't get something good
• 1:29:20
  for my great fault. Well, that It means that I can
• 1:29:23
  buy it that much faster next week.
• 1:29:25
  No, I being super lucky the last five weeks, so I'm not going to
• 1:29:29
  be able to to use the bad luck protection as quickly because I
• 1:29:32
  haven't had bad luck. See how that works?
• 1:29:35
  Yeah, right, yeah, that's that's how I would want them.
• 1:29:38
  And obviously they've got so many intelligent designers.
• 1:29:42
  There, this is stuff that they're or any thinking of.
• 1:29:45
  I just think sometimes they just they get a little higher than
• 1:29:49
  the own Supply and start making like like pink clouds for this
• 1:29:54
  and purple clouds for this. And people are just like, what
• 1:29:56
  are you? What are you doing?
• 1:29:58
  Listen Smokey a broker settle down.
• 1:30:01
  Let's just make it straight forward and easy.
• 1:30:04
  And that's what I want for this anyway.
• 1:30:06
  That's my rant for the show. Let's move on.
• 1:30:11
  Yeah, so talking about Loot and and distribution, you can't
• 1:30:15
  really talk about rating and loot in a vacuum without also
• 1:30:20
  talking about Mythic plus and that was brought up in this. of
• 1:30:22
  you as well where the fact of the matter of normal and heroic
• 1:30:31
  raid teams, there is kind of a bit of an issue with loot
• 1:30:38
  acquisition where players in those modes, specifically can go
• 1:30:44
  and just get better gear from Mythic plus and from the great
• 1:30:48
  Vault through doing Mythic Plus And there is kind of a bit of a
• 1:30:55
  Reliance on that as it pertains to, to just loot acquisition in
• 1:31:02
  general, where, once a red team starts getting into Mythic
• 1:31:07
  rating, they no longer are, you know, as dependent on on Mythic
• 1:31:13
  plus as a source of Gear, power, or power from gear.
• 1:31:16
  Specifically, where is heroic and normal gear guilds.
• 1:31:22
  Can depend on or can utilize? I should say, can utilize Mythic
• 1:31:30
  plus to a greater degree in order to gear and Yes.
• 1:31:39
  Do you remember our conversation, a couple of weeks
• 1:31:41
  back where I talked about like how this doesn't affect Mythic
• 1:31:45
  Raiders as much and you were speaking about how mandatory
• 1:31:50
  Mythic plus is how much you feel pulled to do it?
• 1:31:53
  This was Ian speaking directly to you, ma'am.
• 1:31:57
  This was Ian talking about how much they have to be careful
• 1:32:01
  about this balance and that they do want Mythic Plus at some
• 1:32:06
  level to give gear. We've learnt to. the end boss
• 1:32:13
  Mythic rates, but Ian was very cognizant of half the team doing
• 1:32:20
  Mythic plus, and therefore being like at a higher gear level are
• 1:32:26
  further input, and that strain that it puts on normal and
• 1:32:30
  heroic teams And this was this was if for people who want to go
• 1:32:36
  in depth about how live and I went back and forth on this, I
• 1:32:40
  will put this in the show notes, a link to the previous episode.
• 1:32:46
  We went through this a lot. Yes.
• 1:32:48
  So I really think this was Ian listening to that segment of the
• 1:32:54
  community because of the strain that it puts on teams.
• 1:32:58
  But also the people who just do Mythic plus who we're in the
• 1:33:04
  weekend, doing the great Bush. There are people who are running
• 1:33:07
  around doing plus 20-somethings. I'm not sure if they hit hit 30s
• 1:33:13
  yet. Ask and, and they cap out on
• 1:33:17
  rewards at 15, but that 15 is Trivial to them something that
• 1:33:22
  they'll do as a warm-up and grotesquely hard for others,
• 1:33:28
  something that they can't imagine doing.
• 1:33:32
  And it's a big. Gulf of players that fill the
• 1:33:38
  space in between and those players could be different doing
• 1:33:43
  different content. I know if you were to talk with
• 1:33:48
  EJ and Raven at girls gone, wow, who have a raid team that is
• 1:33:53
  friends and family and they will take people of all different
• 1:33:57
  skills and they just enjoy rating as a team.
• 1:34:00
  They are not. They are not a team that is
• 1:34:03
  trying to get a OTC. They are not a team.
• 1:34:06
  Really even like entertains heroic that often.
• 1:34:09
  They are team. That goes through normal, sees
• 1:34:12
  the raid, and, and like, gets the thrill of doing it with
• 1:34:17
  their friends, with a very wonderful group of people, and
• 1:34:22
  that is what rating is for them. And then some of those members
• 1:34:27
  will do a Mythic. Plus will do 15 s right?
• 1:34:32
  And maybe, and maybe Be that causes a.
• 1:34:38
  Well, they obviously will cause a difference in performance
• 1:34:41
  between different players, but that kind of golf is the same
• 1:34:45
  in. Get your crap together where
• 1:34:47
  there are players who are doing their either mythix each week
• 1:34:51
  especially at the start of a season, right?
• 1:34:55
  There are players. Even in my re team we're just
• 1:34:59
  this week, my by raid leaders. At the beginner Aid says, Hey
• 1:35:06
  guys, make sure you're doing at least 115 because the exact same
• 1:35:13
  thing that kind of strength at all that can be caused by some
• 1:35:16
  people having gear and some people raid logging or getting
• 1:35:20
  close to closer to that. So, it there is a big There's a
• 1:35:26
  big swath of players. They are considering that but
• 1:35:30
  they also want Mythic plus as an endgame pillar to be able to
• 1:35:34
  reward on par with top level, PvP with top level rating at
• 1:35:39
  some level. Question for you?
• 1:35:43
  Yes, somebody he was not interested in Mythic plus it all
• 1:35:47
  doesn't want to touch this. What Key level.
• 1:35:52
  Would you want to be equivalent to end game Mythic boss in your
• 1:35:57
  opinion? Well, and that is on a sliding
• 1:36:05
  scale because the difference in difficulty between 15 in season
• 1:36:12
  2 and 15 and season 3 was even different in.
• 1:36:16
  And of itself though is those of all embossed of SFO, versus
• 1:36:23
  Sylvanas, and boss of of s0d versus Castle nap, 3 and sired,
• 1:36:28
  an actress the difficulty of those fights.
• 1:36:31
  On the same difficulty will vary Yeah yeah you're right.
• 1:36:37
  So I just absent General guideline General guideline
• 1:36:40
  roughly what would you think? And if you have to, if you have
• 1:36:43
  to put it towards a particular season that you have the most
• 1:36:47
  experience on both of them, so be it.
• 1:36:57
  I think. I think it's okay at 15 for for
• 1:37:05
  the average Raider, but I think, I think what they were talking
• 1:37:11
  about and what Ian was talking about in particular was about
• 1:37:15
  having, or like, trying to come up with a way to reward, those
• 1:37:20
  that went like above 20s regularly, like, finding a way
• 1:37:27
  to or trying to find a way for those players to Able to get.
• 1:37:33
  To get something closer to the level of content.
• 1:37:39
  They were able to push and not feel like they have to go into
• 1:37:43
  Mythic rating in order to progress their gear, to be able
• 1:37:47
  to push even further, and further and further in their in
• 1:37:50
  their Mythic plus season. So sorry.
• 1:37:54
  No, I completely push back against that.
• 1:37:57
  Interpretation of the question, the question.
• 1:38:02
  That that was put forward was, is there a point, a Mythic
• 1:38:07
  Mythic Keystone level that. Is equivalent to doing an end
• 1:38:15
  boss, can reward the same as an end boss.
• 1:38:18
  Mythic raid, right? If you are and this is part of
• 1:38:25
  what makes Mythic plus so powerful in terms of gearing, if
• 1:38:29
  you're going and you're doing a bunch of sixes that makes you
• 1:38:32
  strong enough to do a bunch of AIDS, makes you strong enough to
• 1:38:34
  do a bunch of tens. The Graduate ality graduating
• 1:38:38
  from difficulty to higher difficulty, the gear will
• 1:38:41
  constantly do that at a very quick rate could because it's
• 1:38:45
  not a it's not a weekly lock lock, And at what point?
• 1:38:52
  Can Mythic Plus reward the same as end of tier, Mythic bosses.
• 1:39:04
  I meant The Logical The Logical jump for that would be to make
• 1:39:08
  it like a 20. Like a nothing in between when
• 1:39:12
  he well, no, because it would still buy that logic.
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  It would still be following as you're going up from from Mythic
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  Keystone one through Mythic Keystone 20.
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  But also, I don't have any, I don't have experience, pushing
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  keys at plus 20, and above a barely have experienced pushing
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  15, like in the 15 to 17 range. I think that's like the highest
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  I've ever. Like maybe an 18, maybe an 18 is
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  the highest I've ever done. So I don't have experience with
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  that. I don't know what it's like to
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  be in in that level of Earth at that high of a scaled-up Mythic
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  Plus Dungeon, so I don't have a window to be able to compare.
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  End of tear boss in Mythic raid in like in comparison to the
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  difficulty of a plus, 20 key, or plus, 25 key.
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  Yeah, so naturally I would think that since since we do have that
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  framework of the Mythic Keystone system of being like Mythic zero
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  being like relatively close to like LFR level, plus five, being
• 1:40:36
  relatively close to normal gear, plus 10, being relatively close
• 1:40:40
  to heroic gear and +15, being close to the high end of the
• 1:40:45
  heroic. Then it would make sense to
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  naturally progress that to a plus in order to get that, that
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  gear, Equivalent to the, the end of tier Mythic rating gear
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  that's available. So, maybe maybe that's something
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  worth looking into. But I think, I think to just
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  flat-out do that, I think that that would incentivize Raiders
• 1:41:16
  to prioritize Mythic plus even further than they already are
• 1:41:20
  incentivized to do it because of the gear that we've no other
• 1:41:23
  changes to generate. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Which yeah.
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  Obviously, there would be Other changes.
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  And that's definitely something that Ian was looking at because
• 1:41:32
  there isn't that kind of lock out, maybe it's just at the end
• 1:41:36
  of a dungeon, your first dungeon in the week right?
• 1:41:41
  You get a token or maybe it's just a graduating chance.
• 1:41:47
  At the end of a dungeon that you will get this token and then
• 1:41:50
  your capped on the amount of tokens you can get or per week.
• 1:41:54
  There are three bosses at the end of SFO that have the higher
• 1:42:00
  loot level maybe in a week. If you do 20s, you can get up to
• 1:42:08
  three tokens that will then raise the item level to that
• 1:42:13
  same level. There's obviously different ways
• 1:42:15
  that they can experiment with doing a doing this.
• 1:42:19
  To stop the acquisition rate from completely, torpedoing the
• 1:42:23
  value of something else and Ian had said that very much that
• 1:42:32
  very that pressure is something they're aware of.
• 1:42:35
  That's where we started this conversation.
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  So I agree with you on that and I think 20 is a good number.
• 1:42:41
  I think you picked a good number there because one it's round,
• 1:42:45
  it's nice and round the grad. The graduation between points
• 1:42:49
  should should be there, but 20s are incredibly punishing the is
• 1:42:57
  a matter of especially when you're early to get the get
• 1:43:01
  there, it's a matter of avoiding every point of damage that you
• 1:43:04
  can so that your healer can Do things and remember, you're up
• 1:43:11
  against a clock. This isn't just like, hey can we
• 1:43:14
  beat this boss before and enrage timer?
• 1:43:16
  It's did we take too long on this boss?
• 1:43:19
  Because that means that this boss, we have to be faster on,
• 1:43:23
  right? It's not that you do the boss at
• 1:43:26
  4 minutes, 59 seconds and whole good.
• 1:43:28
  We beat the enrage timer. And now we've got the next five
• 1:43:31
  minutes for the next boss. It's, we did this boss at 4:59
• 1:43:35
  and we're supposed to be averaging, three minutes per
• 1:43:36
  boss, we've got to make up time elsewhere.
• 1:43:39
  So there's a lot of give and take on Mythic plus that I think
• 1:43:44
  people discount at times I and no, I'm thinking forward to
• 1:43:50
  seeing what they do for balance on it so and I want to get this
• 1:43:53
  out there. I don't I don't disparage the
• 1:43:56
  difficulty of Mythic plus I it is a very difficult thing.
• 1:44:00
  It is a great achievement to be able to hit those levels of
• 1:44:04
  Mythic plus keys that they're able to hit.
• 1:44:07
  The problem that I have with it is the the incentive that
• 1:44:12
  Raiders have specifically to go do Mythic plus every week,
• 1:44:16
  because the gearing is so much more so much easier and so much
• 1:44:22
  more abundant than the gear that's available through rating.
• 1:44:26
  That's what I have a problem with Can I get you to rephrase
• 1:44:30
  that? Because you just said two
• 1:44:31
  difficulty and then said it was easier to get gear through it.
• 1:44:37
  You're again, you're talking about the rate of acquisition
• 1:44:40
  being an issue, not the difficulty.
• 1:44:46
  But they're not in the they're not in a vacuum.
• 1:44:50
  Okay, so then you do have an issue with the difficulty of
• 1:44:52
  Mythic plus and you find it's too easy to get better gear.
• 1:45:00
  So, those two things being talked about.
• 1:45:01
  There's the difficulty and you can read them.
• 1:45:03
  And that's why I wanted you to like, to clarify that and
• 1:45:08
  rephrase. It was what I asked you because
• 1:45:10
  you talked about that, you don't want to disparage, the
• 1:45:13
  difficulty of Mythic plus. And that these high keys Some of
• 1:45:19
  which you've never done before or do not do often do require
• 1:45:25
  commiserate skill. You have a problem with the loot
• 1:45:30
  acquisition. What is the problem with the
• 1:45:33
  loot acquisition? You do not you just discounted
• 1:45:37
  that it was the rate at which people can get it.
• 1:45:40
  Causing pressure on people to do it.
• 1:45:42
  So what is your issue? That is the issue.
• 1:45:53
  Yes, good. That's what I said.
• 1:45:55
  The rate at which people can get it.
• 1:45:57
  I think that if Mythic plus only rewarded you loot once a week,
• 1:46:06
  people would feel far less inclined.
• 1:46:09
  I think that if the rate of which you get loot was as bad as
• 1:46:14
  season one PVP, people would be all over season 1, pvp for
• 1:46:18
  shadow lands, which they were Even people who generally have
• 1:46:24
  no interest in PvP. Currently Mythic plus the rate
• 1:46:31
  of acquisition is what the issue is, is not the difficulty that
• 1:46:36
  difficulty, as you said changes from season to season.
• 1:46:41
  Yeah. Right.
• 1:46:43
  That difficulty has been nightmarish in and and I don't
• 1:46:49
  mean nightmare should difficulty, but just frustrating
• 1:46:51
  to go through when we have a fixes like infested or beguiling
• 1:46:57
  to name. Some horrible ones, it has been
• 1:47:00
  so much fun when we have encoded or shrouded.
• 1:47:07
  There are there are different swings and stuff but It's the
• 1:47:12
  same as rating. We have raids that are like so
• 1:47:15
  much harder than they used to be like we've had in Shadow lands,
• 1:47:18
  especially with SFO. We've had raids at seem real
• 1:47:22
  quick and people would be like, oh man, blizzard can't make a
• 1:47:24
  hard raid. I want to point to Old dear.
• 1:47:27
  My goodness did people bomb through that or the opening raid
• 1:47:32
  of Legion? Remember Emerald nightmare.
• 1:47:35
  Wow, people went through that. Like it was paper like it was
• 1:47:38
  paper. All right, so these the relative
• 1:47:42
  difficulties change, especially since they are two independent
• 1:47:45
  systems. There may be one tier where the
• 1:47:47
  rate is harder but the Mythic pluses easy there.
• 1:47:50
  Maybe it's here where the Mythic plus is hard, but the rate is
• 1:47:53
  easy and that's not endemic of Mythic Plus or rating.
• 1:47:59
  That is just sometimes balance balancing goals are missed.
• 1:48:04
  The core problem that I that I was trying to get you to
• 1:48:07
  acknowledge is the rate of acquisition and yes, it doesn't
• 1:48:11
  exist in a vacuum. But it is the core of what
• 1:48:14
  what's been talked about in this core of what's dragging, you to
• 1:48:18
  be like a Mythic plus, do I want to do that?
• 1:48:21
  Because I could get a bunch of loot quickly.
• 1:48:25
  And if you couldn't get a bunch of loot quickly, it didn't
• 1:48:27
  matter. If it was super easy, you'd be
• 1:48:29
  like, yeah, but it doesn't give me anything.
• 1:48:30
  I don't care. Yeah.
• 1:48:34
  Yeah, I yeah, well we'll continue to talk about this in
• 1:48:38
  the future. I'm sure I'm it is it is a huge
• 1:48:42
  point of contention in the gameplay Loop for me in that if
• 1:48:46
  I feel like I'm made to do something that I don't want to
• 1:48:48
  do in order to even keep up at a baseline with the rest of the
• 1:48:53
  people around me, in my red team, I just feel, I feel bad.
• 1:48:58
  I feel awful having to do that. So we have a couple more points
• 1:49:04
  here, but we're running out of time here.
• 1:49:06
  We're already reaching about 2 hours.
• 1:49:09
  Is there one that you really want to talk about right now?
• 1:49:12
  Or can we call it a show here? Dragon riding 10/10.
• 1:49:21
  It's a great system and they're very happy with it and I'm very
• 1:49:24
  happy with it. And Ian did say that they're
• 1:49:29
  like. I think the question that Max
• 1:49:31
  phrased was Do you have any intention on making dragon
• 1:49:36
  writing? Like the new Baseline for flying
• 1:49:38
  because of how just awful regular flying feels after going
• 1:49:43
  and doing dragon flying a whole bunch and are they going to
• 1:49:47
  implement it into into the game into like the rest of the world
• 1:49:52
  outside of the Dragon Isles past this expansion?
• 1:49:56
  And the answer? The answer was I don't think
• 1:50:00
  they're like a definitive thing was given But what was talked
• 1:50:04
  about was like trying to find a way to make sure that people's
• 1:50:09
  Mount collections aren't invalidated by the injection of
• 1:50:13
  dragon writing into the rest of the world, which I think that's,
• 1:50:17
  that's a good thing. Like it like having having those
• 1:50:20
  mounts, be still accessible and usable past Dragon flight is
• 1:50:25
  going to be, is going to be a good thing even though we are,
• 1:50:30
  largely not going to be using our You know, our Mount
• 1:50:34
  collections that we've spent years and years and years and
• 1:50:37
  years and years Gathering while we're on the dragon aisles.
• 1:50:43
  Like it's largely going to be just getting around with our
• 1:50:46
  with our dragonflight dragons. So yeah, it's going to be it's
• 1:50:51
  going to be weird to see how that how that plays out.
• 1:50:55
  Yeah. You know what?
• 1:50:56
  I've been putting the screws to you all episode.
• 1:50:58
  I'm going to let that stint statement stand on its own.
• 1:51:01
  I agree with that. I do want to see dragon writing
• 1:51:05
  all over the place but I also don't want to my Mount
• 1:51:09
  collection to just go up in the Aether.
• 1:51:12
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• 1:51:15
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