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Speaker 1: Fine Time Opinion on Sky News Australia starts now. Pedo
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Speaker 1: Kredlin Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program.
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Speaker 3: In another very busy newsday, I'm Caroline Marcus filling in
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Speaker 3: for Peter Kredlin. Coming up tonight, I'll bring you an
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Speaker 3: explosive phone call between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and
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Speaker 3: a respected Australian rabbi where the rabbi recounts how he
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Speaker 3: rejected Albanese's offer to come to his synagogue and blames
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Speaker 3: RPM for the Bondaie bloodshed.
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Speaker 2: You won't want to miss that.
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Speaker 3: We'll have the latest from the US, including the shocking
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Speaker 3: fresh images unveiled in the Epstein files, and former Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister Tony Abbott demands a National Royal commission into the
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Speaker 3: Bondai attack, slamming Albanesi's Department Mental Review as a sham.
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Speaker 4: This current inquiry that the Prime Minister has commissioned is
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Speaker 4: simply a cop out. It's basically the Prime Minister looking
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Speaker 4: into the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: But first tonight, chilling new pictures have emerged of the
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Speaker 3: alleged father son terrorists behind last weekend's massacre at Bonnai Beach.
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Speaker 3: This screenshot from CCTV footage shows twenty four year old
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Speaker 3: Navid Akram leaving an airbnb in Southwest Sydney with father
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Speaker 3: Sarjid Akram at two sixteen am the morning of the attack,
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Speaker 3: and this frame shows the pair leaving the campsy address
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Speaker 3: appearing to hold a large bundle wrapped in blankets believe
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Speaker 3: to be guns. Police will allege the pair loaded two
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Speaker 3: single barrel shotguns, a rifle and four homemade improvised explosive devices,
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Speaker 3: including three pipe bombs and what's known as a tennis
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Speaker 3: ball bomb into this silver Hyundai Atlantra before leaving their
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Speaker 3: temporary accommodation. Pictures later capture that same car parked at
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Speaker 3: Bondai Beach, near the footbridge where the attack would be
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Speaker 3: carried out. Inside the vehicle these Islamic state flags on
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Speaker 3: the front and rear windscreens that were seized by police.
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Speaker 3: A statement of police facts released by the court this
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Speaker 3: afternoon also reveals the pair allegedly conducted firearms training in
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Speaker 3: a countryside location suspected to be in New South Wales.
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Speaker 3: Police alleged the two men threw the pipe and tennis
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Speaker 3: ball bombs into the Jewish crowds celebrating Kunaka, which included
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Speaker 3: young children last Sunday. Mostly these bombs did not detonate
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Speaker 3: or the casualties could have potentially been so much worse
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Speaker 3: than they already are. The shocking new allegations come as
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister continued to resist growing calls for a
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Speaker 3: national Royal commission at a press conference in Canberra today.
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Speaker 5: What's your mission would involve public hearings and won't be
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Speaker 5: run out of your department?
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Speaker 6: Are you running from sprutany by not holding one no.
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Speaker 5: Wrong?
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister also issued this non apology to the
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Speaker 3: Jewish community after he was heckled at last night's event
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Speaker 3: marking one week since the terror attack which killed fifteen
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Speaker 3: innocent people.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony alberanzi.
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Speaker 8: Emotions were raw and a lot of people in the
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Speaker 8: community are hurting and angry, and some of that anger
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Speaker 8: was directed towards me, and I understand that as Prime Minister,
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Speaker 8: I feel the weight of responsibility for an atrocity that
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Speaker 8: happened whilst I'm Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: In other words, sorry but not sorry.
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Speaker 3: Then there's the Australian Labor Party president Wayne Swann, who
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Speaker 3: reposted a tweet criticizing grieving Jews at the event after
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister was booed. The tweet by a research
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Speaker 3: fellow at left wing think tank read, Jewish people boo
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Speaker 3: Albanzi on arrival at Bondi vigil, but they support Netanyahoo,
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Speaker 3: who allowed twelve hundred Israelis to be slaughtered by Hamas
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Speaker 3: then murdered seventy thousand innocent people in Gaza. It is
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Speaker 3: beyond belief that such a hypocrisy can become respectable now.
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Speaker 3: That is a truly horrendous post. And I don't need
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Speaker 3: to reprosecute the entire Israeli military campaign in Gaza again,
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Speaker 3: but to blame Netanyahu for Harmas's attack and claim Israel
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Speaker 3: murdered seventy thousand innocent people, no mention of the huge
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Speaker 3: proportion of those who were actual terrorists killed in a
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Speaker 3: war the terrorists began. Well, that is outrageous and this
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Speaker 3: demonization of the Jewish state and blaming Australian Jews for
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Speaker 3: an overseas conflict is part of the reason we got
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Speaker 3: here in the first place. Wayne Swann doubled down when
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Speaker 3: contacted by News dot Com dot a U Samantha Maiden,
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Speaker 3: telling her he was not happy people had booed the PM. Well,
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Speaker 3: Australian jew whose aren't happy. They've had to spend the
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Speaker 3: week burying their dead, So suck it up, Wayne Swan.
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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberesi and his ministers cannot be allowed to dodge
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Speaker 3: scrutiny over their failures that help pave the way for
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Speaker 3: this attack. As former Prime Minister Tony Abbott tells me
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Speaker 3: in an interview, I'll bring you a little bit later
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Speaker 3: a departmental review into intelligence and security agencies that our
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Speaker 3: Albanesi has announced. Well that's a stitch up, he says,
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Speaker 3: and essentially the Prime Minister investigating himself. Today, Opposition leader
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Speaker 3: Susan Lee offered bipartisan support for a Royal commission. She
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Speaker 3: also ripped into Foreign Minister Penny Wong after wog Too
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Speaker 3: refused to say sorry in an ABC radio interview.
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Speaker 9: I didn't see Penny Wong attend a single funeral. I
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Speaker 9: haven't seen Penny Wong shed a single tea. So maybe
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Speaker 9: if more government mean and ministers were like Mike Freelander
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Speaker 9: and actually came to the streets of Bondai and listened
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Speaker 9: and not just listened, but heard, heard the pain, heard
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Speaker 9: the anguish, heard the call to action. We wouldn't have
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Speaker 9: the ridiculous remarks that she made this morning.
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Speaker 3: Now compare federal labor to New South Wales labor in
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Speaker 3: Premier Chris Mintz, who has never been afraid to apologize
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Speaker 3: for the failings under his own leadership, and who is
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Speaker 3: respected by the community for the personal accountability he has taken.
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Speaker 3: We are deeply sorry.
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Speaker 2: We a grieve with you and with humility.
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Speaker 10: I acknowledge that the government's highest duty is to protect
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Speaker 10: its citizens and we did not do that one week ago.
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Speaker 3: And for an idea of what the appetite is for
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Speaker 3: a national royal commission within the community, listen to the
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Speaker 3: loud applause the President of the New South Wales Jewish
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Speaker 3: Board of Deputies, David O Lossip, received when demanding one
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Speaker 3: last night.
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Speaker 10: How much more tragic is it that the loss of
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Speaker 10: life occurred despite all the warning signs being there and
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Speaker 10: on that night, and on that night, it cannot be
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Speaker 10: disputed that we need a royal commission, that we need
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Speaker 10: a royal commission which goes beyond New South Wales to
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Speaker 10: get to the bottom of how this catastrophe took place
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Speaker 10: and and that must include the Commonwealth.
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Speaker 3: And if you at home, believe too that this is
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Speaker 3: what is needed to get to the bottom of this
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Speaker 3: terrorist attack.
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Speaker 2: A new changed on all petitions calling for.
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Speaker 3: Exactly that was launched today by Sydney Jewish advocate Minie Pearlstein.
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Speaker 3: She says a royal commission is essential to investigate the
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Speaker 3: circumstances leading up to this tragedy, particularly the failures in intelligence,
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Speaker 3: policing and legislative policies. Pelstein writes, the horrific attack on
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Speaker 3: Boni Beach reflects profound governmental and systemic failings in addressing
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Speaker 3: the menace of anti Semitism that has been steadily growing
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Speaker 3: within within our shores.
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Speaker 2: And I urge you to sign that petition.
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Speaker 3: Albanisi is no doubt hoping this pressure on him will
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Speaker 3: ease over the Christmas period that Australians will be distracted
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Speaker 3: by family events and getaways that.
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Speaker 2: Cannot be allowed to happen.
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Speaker 3: Over the years, we've had royal commissions into all sorts
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Speaker 3: of issues, from veteran suicides to robodette to the institutional
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Speaker 3: responses to child sexual abuse. Surely we need one for
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Speaker 3: the worst terror attack this country has ever hadvent the
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Speaker 3: Jewish community. Many leaders and many of us here at
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Speaker 3: Sky News, including me, have been warning would be inevitable
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Speaker 3: after more than two years of simmering hatred on our
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Speaker 3: streets and in radical Islamic religious centers, and don't expect
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Speaker 3: other media to lead the way. On the Sky News
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Speaker 3: and surprisingly the ABC were the only networks to provide
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Speaker 3: full coverage of last night's historic event. Our coverage was
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Speaker 3: also simulcast in full on Fox News in the US. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: over on seven they were showing the cricket nine had
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Speaker 3: Christmas with Delta and ten a show called wait for it,
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Speaker 3: The Dog House Australia.
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Speaker 7: Here a dedicated team match abandoned.
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Speaker 11: Dogs, the helpless little creatures.
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Speaker 2: They don't deserve this with hopeful new owners.
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Speaker 3: Shall we skip please please dogs more than the next person,
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Speaker 3: I can assure you. But what an insult to the
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Speaker 3: Jewish community and to all Australians. So let me say
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Speaker 3: this again here on Sky News. We need a Royal
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Speaker 3: commission and we also need urgent action on anti Semitism
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Speaker 3: and the threat of Islamic extremism. And not by April
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Speaker 3: when the Departmental Review that the government's announced will report back.
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Speaker 3: My colleague Chris Ullman reports in The Australian Today a
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Speaker 3: classified threat assessment by AZO less than two weeks before
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Speaker 3: the massacre warned loan actors pose the greatest risk of
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Speaker 3: sudden attacks on crowded public places over the holidays. This
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Speaker 3: assessment said crowded places and events attracting large crowds are
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Speaker 3: the most likely targets for a terrorist attack in Australia,
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Speaker 3: with violent extremists using simple tactics and readily acquired weapons.
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Speaker 3: Our greatest concern is a threat from loan actors or
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Speaker 3: small cells on the edge of established groups. There's clearly
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Speaker 3: no more time to waste. I now want to bring
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Speaker 3: you a major exclusive that will give you a better
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Speaker 3: idea of exactly how angry the Jewish community is feeling
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Speaker 3: at the government and why tonight I can reveal the
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Speaker 3: head rabbi of the synagogue whose Huneker event was targeted
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Speaker 3: in last Sunday's terror attack told Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi
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Speaker 3: he was not welcome at his synagogue. Rabbi Yoram Ullman
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Speaker 3: from Hubbard of Bondai is the father in law of
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Speaker 3: Rabbi Eli Schlanger, another rabbi at the synagogue and the
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Speaker 3: first victim identified in the massacre.
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Speaker 2: Rabbi Eli was a father of five.
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Speaker 3: Whose two month old baby son was also injured in
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Speaker 3: the attack. And now I can show you a recording
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Speaker 3: of the explosive phone call between Rabbi Ulman and Israeli
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister to Benjamin Netanyahu after the massacre, where the
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Speaker 3: respected Jewish leader blames Anthony Albani and his Foreign Affairs
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Speaker 3: Minister Penny Wong for the bloodshed. The recording begins with Netna,
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Speaker 3: who telling the rabbi and Hebrew his door is always open.
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Speaker 3: It's then the conversation turns political as the rabbi tells
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Speaker 3: the Israeli PM how alban Easy reached out to him
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Speaker 3: to attend the synagogue and says he wanted to pose
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Speaker 3: for photographs with the rabbis. He told r p M
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Speaker 3: his son, Rabbi Elie would not have wanted the PM.
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Speaker 12: Vela verity.
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Speaker 3: Rabbi Allmans says Albanizi called him after the attack and
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Speaker 3: they spoke for thirty minutes. There was another phone call
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Speaker 3: after he buried his son in law, and it was
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Speaker 3: in those calls he claims he lashed the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: and his Foreign Minister Penny Wong over their anti Israel
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Speaker 3: policies and blamed them for the last Sunday's massacre.
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Speaker 13: Hiram penny Wong since yes, every plessing as a.
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Speaker 3: Now, just to be clear, Penny Wong has never used
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Speaker 3: the terms Janus side or ethnic cleansing, but she has
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Speaker 3: said the issue of genocide was a matter for the
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Speaker 3: International Court of Justice, which is still considering a case
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Speaker 3: far by South Africa. She certainly has never strongly denied
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Speaker 3: that accusation, which of course is utterly outrageous and designed
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Speaker 3: to taunt Jews with the most hurtful accusation possible that
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Speaker 3: we or the Jewish state is committing the same atrocity
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Speaker 3: atrocities perpetrated on the Jews in the Holocaust. But back
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Speaker 3: to the recording and Rabbi Ullman says he gave Albanesi
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Speaker 3: example after example of how the Australian government's response to
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Speaker 3: the war in Gaza dangerously escalated the anti Semitism crisis.
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Speaker 13: At home shas Vemba Leon kam as A Yeshima.
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Speaker 3: In the same phone call, Netanyahu tells the rabbi he
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Speaker 3: needs to ask the Albanese government to allow the Jewish
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Speaker 3: community to be armed to protect themselves, a demand that
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Speaker 3: the Israeli PM also made through my colleague Shari Marksen
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Speaker 3: in an interview she did exclusively last week.
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Speaker 6: You know the Jews are going to be targeted, so
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Speaker 6: have the ability to have armed guards. You cannot fight
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Speaker 6: with your bare hands against somebody who comes with a
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Speaker 6: Kalashnikov rifle or an automatic rifle. It's impossible.
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Speaker 3: Rabbi Alman was unavailable to comment on the recording tonight,
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Speaker 3: but he gave me his first interview since the attack
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Speaker 3: after the event last night to honor the victims one
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Speaker 3: week on from the horrific attacks, and he told me
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Speaker 3: he wasn't surprised by the booing Albanizi received at that event.
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Speaker 7: Good the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albenezy, wasn't surprised because.
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Speaker 14: The community feels very hurt, very very betrayed. But I
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Speaker 14: do hope, you know, we believe that everybody should get
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Speaker 14: the second chance, and I do hope that he will
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Speaker 14: do what we call an hebre suvera repentance and many
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Speaker 14: many things that could be done that will reverse the
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Speaker 14: policies of the government.
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Speaker 2: For Rabbi Ullman, the message is clear.
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Speaker 3: The demonization of Israel, stoked by this government's response to
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Speaker 3: October seven, is behind the rise and anti Semitism.
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Speaker 14: Ultimately, hatred for Israel, hatred for Zionism, is hatred for
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Speaker 14: the Jewish people.
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Speaker 3: The question is will Alberanizi listen to what this eminent
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Speaker 3: rabbi is telling him. A spokesperson for mister Alberzi declined
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Speaker 3: to comment. Skynese does understand while the Prime Minister did
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Speaker 3: call Rabbi Ullman and offer his support, no demands were
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Speaker 3: made to take photographs with Rabbis Albernizi has previously said
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Speaker 3: he would not attend any funerals he was not invited to.
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Speaker 3: Clearly most in the community feel he hasn't earned an
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Speaker 3: invite after two years.
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Speaker 2: Of week leadership.
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Speaker 3: More now on that exclusive recording, how we heard the
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Speaker 3: rabbi from the synagogue whose Huneker event was attacked told
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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberanizi not to attend his temple and blame the
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Speaker 3: government's policies for the terror attack. Joining me now is
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Speaker 3: Rabbi him Levy from Sidney Shul, who was in the
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Speaker 3: room when that extraordinary phone call between Rabbi Yoram Ullman
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Speaker 3: and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natanya, who took place. You
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Speaker 3: could see that on the photograph on your screens. Now,
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Speaker 3: Rabbi lev thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 3: First of all, the Prime Minister has declined to respond
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Speaker 3: to these claims from Rabbi Ullman in that phone call,
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Speaker 3: but we understand that he did not make specific demands
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Speaker 3: to take photographs with a rabbi. What do you know
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Speaker 3: about what the Prime Minister might have offered Rabbi Ullman
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Speaker 3: and the habad or what he may.
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Speaker 2: Have asked to do.
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Speaker 15: Thanks Caroline Arman. So this is not something that's coming
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Speaker 15: only from the direction of Rabbi Ullman. This is a
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Speaker 15: known over here in the community in between all the
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Speaker 15: families of the victims, injured, etc. Albinizi is trying to
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Speaker 15: get to every family of a then to be able
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Speaker 15: to attend funerals, to be able to attend in hospital's visits,
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Speaker 15: et cetera. He's declined and denied any visit, any any
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Speaker 15: attempt approach synagogues, institutes, anywhere. No one is accepting him.
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Speaker 15: As much as I know and as much as I'm
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Speaker 15: speaking to other places and synagogues, he really wants to
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Speaker 15: come and no one is accepting him. So declining what
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Speaker 15: Rabbi Oman is saying, he could he's he could do that.
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Speaker 15: I mean, he's declining his responsibility altogether. And he's saying
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Speaker 15: anyone that's coming and telling him, you're responsible, He's like
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Speaker 15: lashing out like a baby and like, no, it has
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Speaker 15: nothing to do with me.
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Speaker 16: I did this.
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Speaker 15: I did that instead of standing up and saying, like
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Speaker 15: the premiere, I have responsibility. It's so my responsibility. I
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Speaker 15: had to do so, and so I'll do so. And
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Speaker 15: so no, he's just declining everything. But we all know,
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Speaker 15: I'm speaking to a lot of members in this community.
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Speaker 15: Everyone knows he really was begging to come, but no
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Speaker 15: one accepted him.
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Speaker 3: Do you agree with Rabbi Allman's assessment in that phone
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Speaker 3: call with NT Yahoo that it was Alban Easy and
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Speaker 3: Penny Wong's policies and statements about Israel in particular that
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Speaker 3: helped lead and we're responsible for the attack last Sunday.
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Speaker 15: It's a very mainstream understanding in the community and I
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Speaker 15: would say probably a very very big majority of people
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Speaker 15: agree with that and feel that way, which is also
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Speaker 15: a very big part of it because people see in
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Speaker 15: their day to day living here in Australia the rise
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Speaker 15: of anti Semitism. They see the lack of response to it.
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Speaker 15: Not only that he's declining now, he was declining response
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Speaker 15: when things were happening, when there were calls for violence
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Speaker 15: against Jews, not someone that's seeing genocide or other nonsense.
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Speaker 15: People were calling for violence against Jews, people were calling
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Speaker 15: for it to hurt Jews. He said nothing. I don't
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Speaker 15: know if he didn't care or what does it mean
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Speaker 15: when someone is just not standing up. So I would
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Speaker 15: see most of the community agrees with that and feels
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Speaker 15: that way, and he is not yet understanding it.
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Speaker 2: Robbie, I am Levy.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time tonight and your
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Speaker 3: insights into how many people in the community are feeling
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Speaker 3: and that explosive phone call.
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Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. Now.
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Speaker 3: Sections of the media, in particular the taxpayer funded ABC,
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Speaker 3: have been criticized over their coverage of the Bondi massacre.
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Speaker 2: Let's see how they did it.
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Speaker 10: This is one of the darkest days that not just
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Speaker 10: Bondi Beach but Australia has ever experienced.
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Speaker 17: There was a Holocaust survivor that was killed, there were
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Speaker 17: children who were killed, there were two caps. It's the
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Speaker 17: deadliest terror attack in Australia's history, and not only that,
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Speaker 17: the deadliest attack against Jews since October seventh.
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Speaker 2: But we are ascribing all sorts of things right. Their
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Speaker 2: actions are not based on their religion.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, and ABC boss Hugh Mark says he doesn't see
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Speaker 3: any activist journalism at the ABC. Joining me to discuss
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Speaker 3: as former Speaker of the House Bronwin Bishop and Sky
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Speaker 3: News contributor Caroli Katz and Barus, both of you welcome
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Speaker 3: tonight when I'll start with you. Even former ABC board
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Speaker 3: member Joe Gersh who we've had on the show before.
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Speaker 3: He's admonished the Public broadcasters coverage and he said it
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Speaker 3: was marked by malice and incompetence and more broadly accused
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Speaker 3: the organization of contributing to the atmosphere of rising anti
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Speaker 3: semitism in Australia.
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Speaker 11: He's right, isn't he Wellias he is, and I mean
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Speaker 11: that statement that had nothing to do with religion was
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Speaker 11: just the most appalling statement of made. Of course it was,
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Speaker 11: but it is part of the activist Islamists campaign to
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Speaker 11: change the definition of terrorism away from being religious or
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Speaker 11: ideological to simply political. So it's in line with their campaigning, Caroly,
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Speaker 11: Where is Kim Williams on all of this?
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Speaker 3: We also heard Sarah Ferguson interrupting Josh Friedenberg in an
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Speaker 3: interview that they did together. It just seems remarkable that
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Speaker 3: there's not more contrition here from my public broadcaster.
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Speaker 5: Definitely, and we also had Laura Tingle with what she
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Speaker 5: said that religion had nothing to do with it. I mean,
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Speaker 5: it's just appalling. I also noticed that Hugh Marx is
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Speaker 5: managing director. Hugh Marx came from a commercial background. He
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Speaker 5: was managing director of the Nine Network. He's aware of this,
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Speaker 5: but it just seems to be that a billion dollars
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Speaker 5: of our taxpayers money continues to fund this organization which
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Speaker 5: doesn't present a proper balanced mainstream view to Australians, and
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Speaker 5: it doesn't seem like anybody can actually fix it or
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Speaker 5: get through to them. It's absolutely appalling, and we say
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Speaker 5: this time and time again. You say it with all
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Speaker 5: your reporting. All the hosts say it as well. It
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Speaker 5: is not a proper organization that is reflecting the mainstream
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Speaker 5: views of all Australians. It is barracking. It is barracking
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Speaker 5: for leftist causes and lurching Australia to extremist left ideology, and.
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Speaker 2: We are paying for all of it.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's return now to the vigil held at Boni
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Speaker 3: Beach last night. The Prime Minister albanezikopped mass brewing as
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Speaker 3: he was introduced to the crowd of an estimated fifteen thousand,
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Speaker 3: possibly twenty thousand people, and one man even rushed towards
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Speaker 3: the PM, accusing him of having blood on his hands. Caroly,
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Speaker 3: this was quite a remarkable reception that Alberanizi got, But
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Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised, I have to say, because there has
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Speaker 3: been huge anger within the Jewish community towards him, and
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Speaker 3: he has failed to front to crowds. He hasn't attended
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Speaker 3: the visual when there have been lots of people there.
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Speaker 3: He went quietly on one day, very quickly lay flowers.
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Speaker 3: So what did you make of how he was received?
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Speaker 5: Well, the thing is prominence to Anthony Albanizi does have
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Speaker 5: blood on his hands, and so does Penny Wong, and
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Speaker 5: so does Tony Burke. We saw that when Israel was
26:37
Speaker 5: founded in nineteen forty nine by a labor government. We
26:41
Speaker 5: have seen since October seventh, twenty twenty three, Australia has
26:46
Speaker 5: been lurched right to the left right. Even Bob Hook's
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Speaker 5: son has come out today. And I've got to read
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Speaker 5: you the quote as well in the viewers, because I'm
26:54
Speaker 5: not going to muck it up. Steve Hawk, son of
26:56
Speaker 5: Bob Hawk, says, I'm a man of the left labor
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Speaker 5: by blood, by instinct, and by rational belief. Yet I
27:04
Speaker 5: despair or so for my tribe. This is the son
27:08
Speaker 5: of Bob Hawk. Bob Hawk would be turning over in
27:11
Speaker 5: his grave and it's disgraceful.
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Speaker 2: This is you know, Albanese.
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Speaker 5: He was warned, he recognized Palestine. What on earth did
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Speaker 5: he think was actually going to happen?
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Speaker 2: Exactly?
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Speaker 3: I think the other thing is, can I just say
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Speaker 3: can I bring I'll just bring in Bromwin here, just
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Speaker 3: to give her a moment to respond as well, Carolly,
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Speaker 3: because it's not just the Jewish community who's upset, is
27:31
Speaker 3: it Bronwhen I mean, we've got a fresh pole today
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Speaker 3: saying that not only his reaction to the terrorist attack
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Speaker 3: Harry's handled, or the antisemptoms and crisis, the expenses scandal,
27:42
Speaker 3: it's taken a huge hit to his approval ratings. What
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Speaker 3: did you make of that pole and how he was received.
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Speaker 11: I think he was received in the way he should
27:51
Speaker 11: have been because the headline of he has blood on
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Speaker 11: his hands was quite true and it's not just the
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Speaker 11: community or the people who were there, it is the
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Speaker 11: wider community. And you can see that reflected in the poll.
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Speaker 11: And I don't know he can ever recover from it.
28:06
Speaker 11: Do you know even in today's into a press conference
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Speaker 11: that he did, he started off calling it an atrocity,
28:12
Speaker 11: but if you listen to the rest of the interview,
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Speaker 11: he refers to it as an incident. And so you
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Speaker 11: really can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
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Speaker 11: There's no sincerity in his care about this part of
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Speaker 11: the community. He's still the rebel, rouser, rebellious person at
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Speaker 11: Sydney University speaking out against Israel n and I think
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Speaker 11: people see that for what he is now, whether or
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Speaker 11: not he is really becoming Albanizi the divider he divided
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Speaker 11: us on the voice. He's divided. He's divided his own
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Speaker 11: party on this. They're starting to split away from him.
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Speaker 11: And I think that the entire country would have joined
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Speaker 11: in the booing if they were there. You saw that
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Speaker 11: there were ten percent of people he thought. He gave
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Speaker 11: a really good response, and that counts his own people
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Speaker 11: as well. I'm going to say it public sac that's
29:07
Speaker 11: about us as poor as it gets. So I just
29:10
Speaker 11: think that as we go forward, we have to hold
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Speaker 11: them to account. That's why there must be a Royal commission.
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Speaker 11: And the reason he doesn't want it is because it
29:19
Speaker 11: will take time. It's eighteen months to the next election.
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Speaker 11: That Royal Commission will continue through that period and it
29:25
Speaker 11: will be front and center of the next election campaign.
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Speaker 11: That's why he does not want a Royal commission.
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Speaker 3: That's a very good point because if this just blows
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Speaker 3: over people, maybe he's hoping forget about it.
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Speaker 2: But we won't let that happen.
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Speaker 3: Bromwain, Bishop Carolee Katzenburus, thank you both for your time.
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Speaker 2: Sorry to cut it a bit short.
29:43
Speaker 3: Still to come, we'll bring you my mussy interview with
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Speaker 3: former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. He explains why we need
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Speaker 3: a National Royal Commission and slams Albaniese's lackluster.
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Speaker 2: Response welcome back.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister fronted the media earlier today taking responsibility
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Speaker 3: somewhat in the wake of the Bonto massacre.
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Speaker 8: Some of that anger was directed towards me, and I
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Speaker 8: understand that as Prime Minister, I feel the weight of
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Speaker 8: responsibility for an atrocity that happened whilst I'm Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: I spoke to former Prime Minister Tony Abbott a little
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Speaker 3: earlier and began by asking him if he thought that
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Speaker 3: statement was enough.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 4: I think that the Prime Minister owes Australians generally, but
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Speaker 4: Jewish Australians in particular, an apology for all of the
30:41
Speaker 4: things that have happened on his watch. It was on
30:44
Speaker 4: his watch that hate preachers rejoiced in the original October
30:48
Speaker 4: seventh atrocity. It was on his watch that we had
30:52
Speaker 4: the horrific scenes in the Opera House Forecourt. It was
30:57
Speaker 4: on his watch that we had the harbor Bridge March
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Speaker 4: with constant demands to kill the IDF and globalize the Intofada,
31:06
Speaker 4: and then of course we had the Bondai massacre. It
31:09
Speaker 4: was on his watch in a massive concession to the
31:16
Speaker 4: pro Palestine protesters. We had the recognition of Palestine. So
31:21
Speaker 4: there's been a succession of failures which are the responsibility
31:26
Speaker 4: of the Prime Minister. And really, I think the least
31:29
Speaker 4: he owes the Australian people is an apology. Chris Mins
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Speaker 4: was man enough to do it. Why isn't the Prime Minister?
31:37
Speaker 2: Sorry?
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Speaker 3: Truly seems to be the hardest word, including for the
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Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Penny Wong. I mean she's come out today
31:43
Speaker 3: and she said sorry if people experienced for how people
31:48
Speaker 3: may have experienced her visit to Israel, in which she
31:51
Speaker 3: didn't actually visit any of the sites where the terror
31:54
Speaker 3: attack happened on October seven. That's a non apology too,
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Speaker 3: isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Exactly right? Look, this government has never been fared income
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Speaker 4: about protecting Jewish people. Frankly, I don't think it's been
32:10
Speaker 4: fared income about standing up for Australian values. And I
32:14
Speaker 4: don't think this government gets it. I think we've got
32:19
Speaker 4: a government of social justice activists. We don't have a
32:23
Speaker 4: government which is serious about keeping Australians safe. There's no
32:29
Speaker 4: one in this government who appears to be a national
32:32
Speaker 4: security warrior and Frankly, a credible government in these perilous
32:39
Speaker 4: times needs at least a few national security warriors in
32:44
Speaker 4: senior positions, but I can't see any of them at all.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is still resistant calls which are growing
32:52
Speaker 3: for a national royal commission. He says there's already a
32:57
Speaker 3: state royal commission. That Chris means that news Southwell's Premier
33:01
Speaker 3: has committed to his launching a review into security agencies
33:07
Speaker 3: and intelligence agencies that will be essentially internal, not independent.
33:13
Speaker 3: Why do you say that a royal commission has to
33:16
Speaker 3: happen on a federal level.
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Speaker 4: Only a royal commission can subpena documents, compel witnesses and
33:28
Speaker 4: get to the bottom of this whole sorry mess. Now
33:32
Speaker 4: I can understand why the Prime Minister doesn't want to
33:35
Speaker 4: have a federal royal commission because he's frightened of what
33:39
Speaker 4: will come out. I think he's frightened that there will
33:42
Speaker 4: be advice that went to government which we currently don't
33:45
Speaker 4: know about, that warned of the likelihood of terrorist events.
33:51
Speaker 4: There may well be WhatsApp messages between the Prime Minister
33:55
Speaker 4: and ministers which have been making light of the whole
34:01
Speaker 4: anti Jewish hatred which has been rampant in our community
34:05
Speaker 4: for the last two years. This current inquiry that the
34:10
Speaker 4: Prime Minister has commissioned is simply a cop out. It's
34:14
Speaker 4: basically the Prime Minister looking into the Prime Minister. I
34:18
Speaker 4: don't think we can expect any real insights to come
34:22
Speaker 4: from that. And while a new South Wales Royal Commission
34:26
Speaker 4: is certainly better than nothing, and again all credit to
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Speaker 4: Chris Mins for doing it, the Jewish hatred that we've
34:36
Speaker 4: seen is a national problem.
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Speaker 2: It's not just a New South Wales problem.
34:41
Speaker 4: That's why if the Prime Minister is finally going to
34:45
Speaker 4: be fed income about making a difference, he really has
34:49
Speaker 4: to have a national Royal Commission. He says they'll be
34:54
Speaker 4: cooperation between the FEDS and a State Royal Commission.
34:58
Speaker 2: But a state royal Commission I.
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Speaker 4: Think will have enormous difficulty actually getting to the bottom
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Speaker 4: of this because it won't be able to compel the
35:08
Speaker 4: production of witnesses and documents from inside the federal system.
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Speaker 2: Mind you, as.
35:16
Speaker 4: Long as the State royle Commission is going, the Prime
35:19
Speaker 4: Minister will have an excuse to avoid answering questions because
35:22
Speaker 4: he can say, oh, it's all being looked into.
35:26
Speaker 2: By a State Role Commission.
35:27
Speaker 4: Look, this is this whole thing again. It's a Prime
35:31
Speaker 4: minister who is trying to avoid responsibility for the terrible
35:36
Speaker 4: things that have happened on his watch and which quite frankly,
35:41
Speaker 4: government actions and inactions have contributed to.
35:45
Speaker 3: You know, on that we saw the Prime Minister and
35:48
Speaker 3: his press conference that I talk about some of the
35:51
Speaker 3: reaction he got, the reception he got at this event
35:55
Speaker 3: last night to mark one week since the terrorist attack,
35:59
Speaker 3: and he the way he put it was that he
36:02
Speaker 3: understood and accepted that there was some anger being directed
36:07
Speaker 3: towards him in the community. Again, it feels like he
36:11
Speaker 3: is dodging accountability here or he's just trying to minimize
36:16
Speaker 3: his own role in this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one thing to accept people are angry. What
36:23
Speaker 4: about doing something to eliminate the causes of that anger.
36:28
Speaker 4: I mean, from the beginning, we should have had hate
36:32
Speaker 4: preachers being deported or prosecuted. We should have had these
36:37
Speaker 4: hate marches banned. We should have had a funding to
36:42
Speaker 4: Islamist bodies eliminated. We should have had a much greater
36:48
Speaker 4: stress on Australian values. Because quite frankly, this is a
36:52
Speaker 4: government which has not just let down Jewish people. It's
36:56
Speaker 4: let down all of us. What's been happening over the
36:59
Speaker 4: last us two years.
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Speaker 2: It's not who we are.
37:04
Speaker 4: We need to restore decency and pride and self respect
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Speaker 4: to our country and this cavalcade of weakness from the
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister is just not going to cut it.
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Speaker 3: Mister Abbot, I know that you were watching the coverage
37:22
Speaker 3: of the event last night, with any parts from others
37:26
Speaker 3: who spoke during the ceremony, any parts of that event
37:29
Speaker 3: that moved you in particular.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, he's not the Prime Minister, he's the Premier.
37:39
Speaker 4: But obviously I think Chris Mins has faced up to
37:44
Speaker 4: the mistakes that the New South Wales government has made
37:47
Speaker 4: and is trying to remedy them. I think he is
37:51
Speaker 4: fair InCom Kelly Sloane obviously was there on the beach
37:57
Speaker 4: when the massacre took place, and she did with selfless courage.
38:02
Speaker 4: So all credit to the two of them. I think
38:05
Speaker 4: we do have some real leadership in New South Wales.
38:09
Speaker 4: Let's see something remotely resembling leadership from the Prime Minister,
38:15
Speaker 4: because that, in the end is what he's elected to provide.
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Speaker 3: Mister Abbott, thank you for your time, and I know
38:21
Speaker 3: a lot of people, both within the Jewish community and
38:24
Speaker 3: the wider Australian community wish they did have a leader
38:27
Speaker 3: with your strength and moral clarity and power again during
38:30
Speaker 3: a time like this.
38:31
Speaker 2: Appreciate it well. We're bringing you pictures taken a short time.
38:37
Speaker 3: Ago by our cruise of one hundred and fifty people
38:40
Speaker 3: gathered at Saint Mary's Cathedral in Sydney for a pro
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Speaker 3: Palestine rally, just one week after the anti Semitic terror
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Speaker 3: attack at Bonney Beach. Speakers at the rally have railed
38:54
Speaker 3: against New South Wales Premier Christmins's new protest laws. With
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Speaker 3: attendee he's seen carrying pro Palestine and anti Israel banners.
39:04
Speaker 3: A man has also reportedly been hauled away by police
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Speaker 3: after getting into a heated discussion with one of the protesters.
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Speaker 3: Police are on the scene and are monitoring the situation.
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Speaker 3: I also want to remind people after that Tony Abbott
39:23
Speaker 3: interview earlier that if you want to voice your support
39:26
Speaker 3: for a Royal commission into the Bonnoi massacre, be sure
39:29
Speaker 3: to head to change dot org and sign Mani Perlstein's petition.
39:33
Speaker 3: It already has more than five thousand supporters. I think
39:36
Speaker 3: it just went up this morning and every signature counts
39:39
Speaker 3: still to come.
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Speaker 2: Alex Ripton joins me.
39:42
Speaker 3: To discuss the latest developments on the Bonnoi terror attack, including.
39:47
Speaker 2: Here's reaction to that bombshell.
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Speaker 3: Chilling pictures that have been released today of the two
39:53
Speaker 3: alleged terrorists.
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Speaker 2: That's next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back joining me now as Executive Counsel of Australian
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Speaker 3: Jury co CEO, Alex Ripchen.
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Speaker 2: Alex, great to see you again.
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Speaker 3: First of all, I want to get your reaction to
40:14
Speaker 3: this anti Israel rally we just showed our you as
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Speaker 3: pictures of happening now outside Saint Mary's Cathedral in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: It's only been a week since the attack on our community,
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Speaker 3: yours and mine. How do you feel about another protest
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Speaker 3: of this nature happening now?
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Speaker 16: These people are despicable. They're the worst of the worst.
40:36
Speaker 16: And what I resent about them the most is that
40:39
Speaker 16: they pose and posture as being human rights activists or
40:43
Speaker 16: concerned about free speech or concerning it about Palestinians. They
40:46
Speaker 16: don't care about any of that. They use all of
40:49
Speaker 16: these things as a gimmick as a device to attack
40:51
Speaker 16: Jewish people, to attack a core part of Jewish identity,
40:54
Speaker 16: which is Zion is in the connection to Israel. They
40:57
Speaker 16: are utterly shameless. There's no war cl only happening between
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Speaker 16: Israel and the Palestinians. But a war was declared on
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Speaker 16: the Jewish community of Australia in Bondai a week ago.
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Speaker 16: So the fact that these people want to gather and
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Speaker 16: fly the Palestinian flag and the kafir when we know
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Speaker 16: the association between the Jihads, the terrorists that attacked us,
41:17
Speaker 16: and the cause which they claim to represent, it's just shameless.
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Speaker 16: But this is what we've come to expect from these people.
41:23
Speaker 16: They can not a job for Jewish lives, or for
41:26
Speaker 16: human rights or for free speech. They're about their own
41:29
Speaker 16: performances and their own extremist agenda.
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Speaker 3: Alex Riptrin, sorry, so much news today, will have to
41:35
Speaker 3: end there. I'm hoping to get you back soon though.
41:38
Speaker 3: For more on what's happening now still to come. We'll
41:41
Speaker 3: have the latest from the US, including the shocking images
41:44
Speaker 3: revealed in the Epstein Files and rapped superstar Nicki Minaj
41:48
Speaker 3: she's turned conservative. Welcome back now to the US, where
41:56
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's Justice Department is copying in hence backlash after
42:01
Speaker 3: it released thirteen thousand pages of heavily censored Epstein files.
42:07
Speaker 3: Victims of Jeffrey Epstein's sex crimes have accused the Trump
42:11
Speaker 3: administration of protecting the elite men involved in the scandal
42:15
Speaker 3: with its extensive redactions, but it claims the redactions were
42:20
Speaker 3: made to protect potential victims. However, the release also included
42:25
Speaker 3: hundreds of vile, never before seen images like these ones
42:30
Speaker 3: that were once on display at Epstein's at Epstein's Island estate,
42:35
Speaker 3: showing the dead pedophile kissing and cuddling up to young girls.
42:41
Speaker 3: Former US President Bill Clinton is also facing a reckoning.
42:45
Speaker 3: Various images of him with unidentified women have been released,
42:49
Speaker 3: including him soaking nearly naked in a hot tub with
42:53
Speaker 3: one at his waist joining me. Now for more on
42:57
Speaker 3: this is Sky News contributor Koshergata Kosh. We've seen Clinton
43:02
Speaker 3: pictured with Epstein before, a lot of talk about him,
43:05
Speaker 3: you know, having an association with Epstein. But how damaging
43:09
Speaker 3: are these fresh photos for him?
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Speaker 18: Certainly not great. I think, you know, he's seventy nine
43:17
Speaker 18: years old, he's pretty much off the political stage at
43:21
Speaker 18: this point, so not as damaging as it might have
43:24
Speaker 18: been had these things been released in his heyday or
43:26
Speaker 18: even when Hillary Clinton was in the national spotlight. But
43:29
Speaker 18: it's obviously not great. I think it just confirms what
43:33
Speaker 18: really the zeitgeist has long thought about the former president,
43:37
Speaker 18: that he is somebody who has a penchant for impropriety,
43:41
Speaker 18: to put it nicely, with women and other women, in
43:44
Speaker 18: this case young women. But all these things do because
43:47
Speaker 18: the picture is worth a thousand words, of course, as
43:49
Speaker 18: it brings it back into the forefront. And that's why
43:51
Speaker 18: people are saying this is his reckoning or you know,
43:54
Speaker 18: it's hard to shake this while it's in.
43:55
Speaker 15: The news cycle.
43:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a very diplomatic way of referring to
43:59
Speaker 3: the Monica Lewinski scandal.
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Speaker 2: I have to say, nicely done for television.
44:04
Speaker 3: US Vice President Jade Banns, meanwhile, has used his speech
44:08
Speaker 3: at America Fest to address the growing civil war within
44:12
Speaker 3: the MAGA movement, which has seen the American Ride go
44:16
Speaker 3: to battle with its conspiracy theorist elements, headed off by
44:20
Speaker 3: the likes of Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson.
44:23
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 19: We have far more important work to do than canceling
44:28
Speaker 19: each other. We have got to build. And President Donald
44:32
Speaker 19: Trump is a builder. Charlie Kirk was a great builder too.
44:36
Speaker 19: He understood that any family can have its disagreements. It's
44:39
Speaker 19: tough conversations. We can learn and improve and treat one
44:43
Speaker 19: another better. We can love each other despite the disagreement.
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Speaker 2: Kosha, how do you think he handled this?
44:50
Speaker 3: And will this sort of split I guess, but in
44:54
Speaker 3: the MAGA movement be damaging long term?
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Speaker 18: Yes, two great questions. I think he handled it like
45:04
Speaker 18: a future presidential candidate, which is what everybody expects. Jade
45:07
Speaker 18: Events is going to be the front runner for twenty
45:10
Speaker 18: twenty eight. I think there will be a robust primary.
45:12
Speaker 18: But he really is in pole positions, So he is
45:14
Speaker 18: speaking as he should in that way, staying above the fray,
45:18
Speaker 18: keeping it meta, but really being very clear, crystal clear
45:21
Speaker 18: about the value that he is supporting, which is that
45:24
Speaker 18: the right is the party of free speech. Let everybody
45:27
Speaker 18: have their say, we don't want to censor people or
45:29
Speaker 18: control people, and hey, let's focus on the real enemy,
45:32
Speaker 18: which is the left and the agenda that his side
45:35
Speaker 18: is of course trying to defeat. So I think he
45:38
Speaker 18: did well insofar as he could on the stage, and
45:41
Speaker 18: he came closing out Amfest after a few days of
45:44
Speaker 18: a lot of infighting, as you say, which has been
45:47
Speaker 18: happening and spilling out. The dirty laundry is kind of
45:49
Speaker 18: out for everyone to see. So in terms of your
45:51
Speaker 18: second question, what that's going to look like, I do
45:54
Speaker 18: hope that eventually it will, at least in time for
45:57
Speaker 18: the midterms and certainly for twenty twenty eight, all die down.
46:00
Speaker 18: But it really is at a fever pitch right now.
46:02
Speaker 18: And you do have a dividing line happening on a
46:05
Speaker 18: few issues on the right around censorship or not censorship,
46:09
Speaker 18: but should we be curtailing certain viewpoints or just let
46:11
Speaker 18: everyone have their say. Also on foreign policy as it
46:14
Speaker 18: relates to how much the US is continuing to support
46:17
Speaker 18: different countries, including Israel. This definitely is a dividing line
46:20
Speaker 18: that's brightening on the right side of the isle, I
46:22
Speaker 18: would say. And then, lastly, trust in institutions, and there's
46:25
Speaker 18: a big faction of people that don't trust institutions, including
46:28
Speaker 18: the investigation into who killed Charlie Kirk. That has become
46:31
Speaker 18: a big dividing line on the right. These are fundamental things.
46:34
Speaker 18: It's getting pretty ugly, But I hope the JD Vance's
46:37
Speaker 18: words and others in his position can pull it all together.
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Speaker 2: Kosher.
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Speaker 3: I probably don't have time to play this next SoundBite,
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Speaker 3: but very very quickly ten or twenty seconds. Rap superstar
46:47
Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj. She's shocked fans one of the most unexpected
46:51
Speaker 3: Hollywood developments this year. She's apparently turned Republican and is
46:54
Speaker 3: working with Trump's White House on Christian persecution in Nigeria.
46:59
Speaker 3: And now he's appeared for Q and A hosted by
47:02
Speaker 3: Erica Kirk at Turning Point, USA. Were you surprised to
47:05
Speaker 3: see I guess this shift from Nicki Minaj.
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Speaker 18: Yes, not something that you would expect. You didn't give
47:12
Speaker 18: a hint about Carolina in the past, where she in
47:14
Speaker 18: twenty twelve wrapped some some lyrics supporting Mitt Romney, who
47:18
Speaker 18: was not exactly a big bright person on the raid,
47:22
Speaker 18: and she did that whether she.
47:24
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'd love to talk to you more about
47:27
Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj and other rappers.
47:29
Speaker 2: We do have to leave you there.
47:30
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your company at home tonight.
47:33
Speaker 3: You'll see me again right here tomorrow night at six
47:36
Speaker 3: and throughout the week. The Bolt Report with Danika Di
47:39
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