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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? John Middlecock
- 0:18Speaker 1: Golo Podcast. I know we've kind of fallen off the
- 0:21Speaker 1: wagon a little bit with the vacation baby, but I
- 0:26Speaker 1: was like, you know, last major of the year, we
- 0:29Speaker 1: got Rory and Scotti the betting favorites. Let's just dive in.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I know I haven't done a podcast here in a
- 0:34Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but I've consumed a lot of golf.
- 0:37Speaker 1: I watched a lot of The Genesis this last week.
- 0:40Speaker 1: It was pretty damn good. I'm not gonna lie. I
- 0:42Speaker 1: actually watched the week before when we were in fourth
- 0:44Speaker 1: of July. I peaked at the John Deere for sure
- 0:46Speaker 1: as well. So I love watching golf. So even if
- 0:50Speaker 1: I haven't done a podcast, I'm definitely consuming you guys
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- 0:55Speaker 1: We also got a YouTube channel. All all content is
- 0:58Speaker 1: up there as well. We'll dive into a lot of stuff,
- 1:00Speaker 1: definitely the three guys that I'm hammering this week from
- 1:03Speaker 1: a gambling perspective, and let's just dive right into Royal
- 1:08Speaker 1: Brokedale in the Open Championship. Let's just dive right in
- 1:13Speaker 1: Royal Birkdale Jordan's Speith in twenty seventeen. It's kind of crazy.
- 1:20Speaker 1: This will be nine years since he won his last major.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I mean, at the time he won that, I remember
- 1:25Speaker 1: being in my cousin Kenny's house in Fresno, and remember
- 1:29Speaker 1: Speith pumped one like into a concession stand and had
- 1:35Speaker 1: one of the all time up and downs from there.
- 1:37Speaker 1: It's when he pointed at Griller. It was a pretty
- 1:40Speaker 1: iconic moment for a pretty iconic career up to that point.
- 1:45Speaker 1: And it looked like this guy was going to become
- 1:49Speaker 1: I don't know kind of what Rory has become, you know,
- 1:52Speaker 1: just a guy that was gonna win six seven majors,
- 1:56Speaker 1: kind of the next Tiger Woods. And that was kind
- 1:59Speaker 1: of the end of it, which is crazy to look
- 2:02Speaker 1: back and think about. He won that tournament. He beat Coocher,
- 2:05Speaker 1: who for a split second looked like he was gonna
- 2:07Speaker 1: win it by three shots. I think third place he
- 2:11Speaker 1: cleared by six shots. So this guy fucking blasted the field.
- 2:16Speaker 1: And that feels like a lifetime ago. You know what's
- 2:19Speaker 1: funny is since having a kid like I'll think about
- 2:22Speaker 1: like something that happened to me two years ago. I'm
- 2:24Speaker 1: like that feels like ten years ago. I think about
- 2:26Speaker 1: something ten years ago that feels like seven decades ago.
- 2:31Speaker 1: And speace dominance on the PGA tour just like where
- 2:35Speaker 1: you went into Majors, thinking like Jordan Speed's gonna win,
- 2:37Speaker 1: Jordan Speed's gonna be in the mix feels like a
- 2:40Speaker 1: long long time, but that nine years feels more like
- 2:43Speaker 1: twenty five. Uh so like coming into this, by all accounts,
- 2:48Speaker 1: listened some of the no laying up guys, talking to people,
- 2:51Speaker 1: boots on the ground that you know, listen, I this
- 2:57Speaker 1: course if the wind doesn't pump, and as of right now,
- 3:00Speaker 1: it doesn't look like the wind is gonna pump that hard.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Relative I was watching The Genesis, I think on Saturday.
- 3:07Speaker 1: We were lounging around the couch early in the morning
- 3:10Speaker 1: having some coffee, and it looked miserable. Right they had
- 3:13Speaker 1: a fog delay maybe that was Friday, and I was like, God,
- 3:17Speaker 1: that's so cool over there. And my wife looks at me,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and she's watched a lot of golf since I've come
- 3:22Speaker 1: into her life. She's like, that doesn't look fun. I'm like,
- 3:24Speaker 1: this is overseas Ireland, Scotland, the UK that this is
- 3:29Speaker 1: their version of golf. This is their version of beautiful,
- 3:33Speaker 1: like this is that's that And a huge part of
- 3:38Speaker 1: links golf overseas is the elements and if the wind
- 3:43Speaker 1: doesn't pump and the no lane up guys were saying
- 3:46Speaker 1: that everyone is the place is fast and firm, so
- 3:50Speaker 1: that brings shorter hitters into it. Right when the wind pumps,
- 3:54Speaker 1: that brings variables into it. You don't need to be
- 3:58Speaker 1: It's like Bryson d Chambeau. I would hammer him to
- 4:02Speaker 1: miss the cut. I would expect, which is kind of crazy.
- 4:04Speaker 1: If Bryson misses this cut, he will have missed all
- 4:06Speaker 1: four major cuts. When the year started, it was like
- 4:10Speaker 1: back before piff back down is like Bryson wants five
- 4:13Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and obviously he's still valuable, but like
- 4:17Speaker 1: you're missing every cut. Part of you is being an
- 4:20Speaker 1: absolute stalwart in the majors as well as on our
- 4:24Speaker 1: tour and YouTube or whatever. Be a pretty rough year
- 4:27Speaker 1: for the man. I saw you put out like a
- 4:29Speaker 1: Netflix level sit down of how shitty his year's been
- 4:33Speaker 1: with the majors. Hey, that happens. It was everyone missing.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler just missed a cut for the first time.
- 4:39Speaker 1: And like what felt like a decade. I think it
- 4:41Speaker 1: was four years. But missing a cut in a major
- 4:45Speaker 1: is no I don't hold that against you, right, but
- 4:48Speaker 1: missing every cut when you're supposed to be one of
- 4:51Speaker 1: the best golfers in the world is rough. I mean,
- 4:54Speaker 1: there's no way around it. That is a terrible, terrible year.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Like I was thinking about, Scotty missed the CU so
- 5:00Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be off the set.
- 5:02Speaker 1: You know, he had been consistently like two and a half, three,
- 5:05Speaker 1: four to one, and at one point in time over
- 5:07Speaker 1: the weekend, Rory was actually the betting favorite in this tournament.
- 5:11Speaker 1: There's no disputing that. You know, you feel stronger about
- 5:15Speaker 1: Rory coming into this event. But a couple of weeks ago,
- 5:19Speaker 1: you know, he missed a birdie putt that would have
- 5:21Speaker 1: sent him into extra hole. He was already in extra holes,
- 5:24Speaker 1: but a second playoff hole with Victor Hovlin, like seventy
- 5:28Speaker 1: two holes ended and no one had beat Scotti. Show
- 5:30Speaker 1: that that ha been two weeks ago, you know, or
- 5:32Speaker 1: three weeks ago. Now, you know, it's not like Scotti Scheffer.
- 5:35Speaker 1: It's weird for his like standard, it feels like he's
- 5:41Speaker 1: way off. But if you look at he's leading the
- 5:45Speaker 1: PGA Tour at FedEx Points. For whatever you want to
- 5:47Speaker 1: make of that, he feels like most weeks, you know,
- 5:51Speaker 1: throughout the season he was finishing second, third or fourth.
- 5:54Speaker 1: And obviously he rattled off his one win really really
- 5:56Speaker 1: early in the season. But he lost to Fitzpatrick on
- 5:59Speaker 1: the line a hole in extras. He lost to Hobblin
- 6:02Speaker 1: in extras. It hasn't been that terrible, but I don't
- 6:06Speaker 1: like him this week. You know, I'm staying away from
- 6:09Speaker 1: him or Rory. Wouldn't surprise me if either one of
- 6:12Speaker 1: them won. I have more faith that like Rory's gonna
- 6:15Speaker 1: be in the mix come the weekend. I mean, at
- 6:19Speaker 1: the PGA Championship. If Rory just hit his driver a
- 6:22Speaker 1: little bit better, I think he wins it. Aaron Ry,
- 6:25Speaker 1: doesn't he You know, he had an awful Saturday on
- 6:32Speaker 1: at the Genesis, but then Sunday came and I didn't
- 6:35Speaker 1: even think he played that one. He shot sixty four.
- 6:38Speaker 1: So Rory's got some really good momentum coming into this.
- 6:41Speaker 1: And I don't think it's shocking that those guys' odds
- 6:45Speaker 1: are basically the same thing. And I think people have
- 6:49Speaker 1: been a little less hesitant. If you're not gonna win
- 6:52Speaker 1: once a month, it's hard to bet you three four
- 6:54Speaker 1: to one. It's why Scotti Scheffler's odds have slowly come
- 6:58Speaker 1: back a little bit. Which in the golfing world, if
- 7:01Speaker 1: you're fifteen to one, you're a pretty heavy favorite, right,
- 7:04Speaker 1: those are excellent odds. Like in the peak of DJ's
- 7:07Speaker 1: powers or justin Thomas, they would be fourteen to sixteen
- 7:11Speaker 1: to one range. So once you get into single digits,
- 7:15Speaker 1: you're doing some pretty special stuff from a gambling perspective,
- 7:19Speaker 1: that's for damn sure. The other thing I would say
- 7:22Speaker 1: about this week is I hope it gets weird. I'm
- 7:27Speaker 1: not just saying like the wind comes or the rain comes,
- 7:30Speaker 1: and you know weather can change at the moment's notice,
- 7:35Speaker 1: but it just weird things happen over there. You know
- 7:38Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick who was in the mix at the Genesis, they
- 7:42Speaker 1: caught him on camera yesterday going, I haven't got a
- 7:45Speaker 1: bounce all day long. And that's what happens on Links Golf.
- 7:50Speaker 1: They have these crazy pot bunkers. They typically have hay
- 7:55Speaker 1: or weird areas outside the fairway, and just because you
- 7:58Speaker 1: hit the fairway, it's fucking hard. Your ball's bouncing uh
- 8:02Speaker 1: this course. Uh, just looking at some of the flyovers,
- 8:05Speaker 1: a lot of dog legs. So if you're not cutting
- 8:09Speaker 1: the ball into the shape of the hole, your ball's
- 8:13Speaker 1: gonna go right through. Whether it lands in a bunker,
- 8:15Speaker 1: whether it lands in the hay. That's what makes kind
- 8:18Speaker 1: of this environment. And the other thing is typically Scott
- 8:21Speaker 1: he's the defending champion in the year before Xander won,
- 8:25Speaker 1: so and you know, a couple of years ago Rory,
- 8:27Speaker 1: Cam Smith and Cam Young. You know, at the Old Course,
- 8:31Speaker 1: we went through a long stretch where the big boys
- 8:34Speaker 1: were dominating all the majors, and then JJ Spawd kind
- 8:37Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere last year and won the
- 8:40Speaker 1: US Open. Now, granted he he got a little bit
- 8:42Speaker 1: of a reprieve with that weather situation that stopped everything.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And then Sam Burns, you know the standing water that
- 8:50Speaker 1: the the official did not grant him, which you know,
- 8:53Speaker 1: looking back once you he probably should have got it.
- 8:56Speaker 1: But regardless of Sam Burn's gonna eventually win a major
- 8:59Speaker 1: pro opener PGA. I kind of like it when they're
- 9:03Speaker 1: a couple randos, you know, That's what was so crazy
- 9:06Speaker 1: about Aroana Mick, is that Aaron Rye won, Like, I
- 9:10Speaker 1: would kind of expect that at a British Open. I
- 9:13Speaker 1: know they called the Open. I still call it the British.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Wouldn't mind a couple of randos in the mix with
- 9:19Speaker 1: some of the big dogs. And for me, you know,
- 9:23Speaker 1: Tommy Fleetwood, I guess grew up right down the street
- 9:25Speaker 1: from this course, used to sneak on with his father.
- 9:29Speaker 1: It would be really cool. You know, Tommy fleet would
- 9:33Speaker 1: like go a couple more years. You start getting close
- 9:35Speaker 1: to forty, we'll start as asking the question like is
- 9:38Speaker 1: this guy never gonna win a major? Which is pretty crazy.
- 9:41Speaker 1: You know, he's won essentially one PGA Tour event and
- 9:44Speaker 1: there are thirty guys in the field. Now, granted it
- 9:46Speaker 1: was the FedEx Playoffs, the best thirty players or the
- 9:49Speaker 1: guys that are the best seasons. Let's see, It's like
- 9:51Speaker 1: it'd be kind of nice to be like, oh, yeah,
- 9:52Speaker 1: Tommy just won the Travelers or Tommy just won riv
- 9:55Speaker 1: you know, Tommy won the PGA Championship, Tommy won an open.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Like in theory with his he should when his career
- 10:01Speaker 1: said and done, it wouldn't be crazy to go, yeah,
- 10:03Speaker 1: the guy's won a couple of majors and won eight
- 10:05Speaker 1: nine times on tour, but more than likely, it's kind
- 10:08Speaker 1: of trending. That's like, Yeah, Tommy Fleetwood ends his career
- 10:10Speaker 1: with like two wins, no majors, and just one hundred
- 10:14Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, he made a ton of money.
- 10:17Speaker 1: He top five and top ten in a ton of
- 10:19Speaker 1: big tournaments for a long long time. But a lot
- 10:23Speaker 1: of pressure. I mean remember what was like less than
- 10:26Speaker 1: a decade ago when they went to Rory's home course
- 10:31Speaker 1: and he missed the cut and he pumped it out
- 10:33Speaker 1: of bounds on his first drive. So there's an added
- 10:36Speaker 1: pressure there that's kind of unique in golf, the build
- 10:39Speaker 1: up for you. But I'm rooting for Tommy Fleetwood. That
- 10:42Speaker 1: being said, I'm not betting on him. If you want
- 10:46Speaker 1: to take Matt Fitzpatrick to win this tournament, I would
- 10:48Speaker 1: not blame you. And if Matt Fitzpatrick wins this tournament,
- 10:51Speaker 1: I think he would basically have the player of the
- 10:54Speaker 1: year wrapped up. He would have a major, he would
- 10:56Speaker 1: have four wins coming into this tournament. He has four
- 10:59Speaker 1: other top fives. I think he has thirteen top twenty fives.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Every single week when you're watching him, like, come Saturday,
- 11:06Speaker 1: You're like matfis Patrick could win. And the other thing
- 11:09Speaker 1: is like he played a massive role in getting his
- 11:13Speaker 1: brother a pg Tour card, who then went on to
- 11:16Speaker 1: be awesome on the PGA Tour. It is gonna end
- 11:18Speaker 1: the season making millions of dollars. I mean, this season
- 11:22Speaker 1: has a chance to go down. I know, he's won
- 11:24Speaker 1: a major, he's won a US Amateur. I mean, he's
- 11:26Speaker 1: one of the most talented players on the PGA Tour.
- 11:29Speaker 1: When he's playing like this, when you just watch him, like, God,
- 11:32Speaker 1: this guy's a fucking stut. I tweeted out a couple
- 11:36Speaker 1: weeks ago, they're like they've kind of turned into the
- 11:38Speaker 1: Watt brothers. You know, Matt is kind of the legendary figure,
- 11:43Speaker 1: but Alex has a chance to kind of turn himself
- 11:45Speaker 1: into TJ. Watt. Now, Alex is a long way to
- 11:47Speaker 1: go before he's considered TJ. Watt. But that being said,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I think Matt plus one sixty five to top ten.
- 11:56Speaker 1: That is an auto hammer. In the last month, he's
- 12:01Speaker 1: finished second at the Canadian Open, he finished twenty second
- 12:05Speaker 1: at the US Open, he finished fourth at the Travelers,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and he just finished t third at the Scottish Like,
- 12:13Speaker 1: and he already has a bunch of wins on the season,
- 12:16Speaker 1: and he took down Scotty one on one in extra
- 12:19Speaker 1: holes right after the Masters. I mean it was incredible.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Hit one of the better shots you will ever see
- 12:25Speaker 1: into the win four iron. I think it was like
- 12:27Speaker 1: two hundred and ten yards win pumping and he knocked
- 12:30Speaker 1: it like seven feet it was. It was jaw dropping
- 12:33Speaker 1: when it happened, and Scotty hit probably one of the
- 12:35Speaker 1: worst shots he's hit all season. I mean it looked
- 12:38Speaker 1: like mirror you. So, Matt Fitzpatrick plus one sixty five
- 12:42Speaker 1: the top ten auto hammer. If you want to get aggressive,
- 12:45Speaker 1: top five, if you're gonna bet him top five, you
- 12:47Speaker 1: might as well just take him to win it. And
- 12:50Speaker 1: I fully expect his name to be on the lead
- 12:53Speaker 1: leader board all weekend long. The other guy is gotta
- 12:56Speaker 1: up who His last three tournaments, he won the John Deere,
- 13:02Speaker 1: he just finished third at the Genesis, and I guess
- 13:07Speaker 1: those are the last two tournaments and coming into this
- 13:10Speaker 1: he clearly is as hot as anyone in the world. Well,
- 13:14Speaker 1: last year, the same time he won the Scottish Open,
- 13:18Speaker 1: he was a defending champion last weekend and then followed
- 13:21Speaker 1: it up finishing third at the Open. And it's like, well,
- 13:25Speaker 1: he did he play the John Deere before? As he
- 13:27Speaker 1: kind of run No, he also played the John Deere
- 13:29Speaker 1: that year too, So he's a guy like he's got
- 13:33Speaker 1: a little extra juice to him. You know, he's carrying
- 13:35Speaker 1: a little few more lbs to carry him through the grind.
- 13:38Speaker 1: So for whatever reason, the wind, the elements playing overseas
- 13:42Speaker 1: lightens them up. I don't know, because you're watching them.
- 13:46Speaker 1: You know, in theory, he's like a big bomber, but
- 13:49Speaker 1: being able to control the ball hit it lower. When
- 13:52Speaker 1: you hit it lower, you're naturally gonna run it up
- 13:54Speaker 1: on spots, or run it through the fairway, or run
- 13:56Speaker 1: it down the fairway. He's just an exceptional player. So
- 14:00Speaker 1: you can get got Her up to top ten right
- 14:03Speaker 1: now plus three twenty five. He's thirty to one to
- 14:06Speaker 1: win it, which not the craziest bet on the board.
- 14:12Speaker 1: So I Fitzpatrick plus one sixty five to top ten, got
- 14:15Speaker 1: Her up. All these bets are presented by my friends
- 14:17Speaker 1: at hard Rock Bet got Her up plus three twenty
- 14:19Speaker 1: five through top ten. I wanted to go a little
- 14:22Speaker 1: off the board with my last pick. You know, Cam Young,
- 14:28Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I was pretty confident,
- 14:31Speaker 1: like this guy feels like a lock to win a major.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Everyone's off the scent. Hard to blame me. He hasn't
- 14:36Speaker 1: played that well. You know, you would have said three
- 14:38Speaker 1: months ago Cam Young coming into this tournament would have
- 14:41Speaker 1: been like fourteen to one. He's thirty to one, and
- 14:45Speaker 1: Hovelin has the same odds as him. And early in
- 14:48Speaker 1: the season Hovelin was not playing well, and then over
- 14:51Speaker 1: the last month he's finished third, first, and t. Thirteen.
- 14:55Speaker 1: So like, Hovelin's a guy who's gaining a lot of
- 14:58Speaker 1: steam coming into this tournament. And if it's gonna be
- 15:02Speaker 1: a second shot golf course, you can get him plus
- 15:07Speaker 1: odds plus one forty to top twenty. So I'm going
- 15:11Speaker 1: hammering Fitzpatrick. I'm gonna sprinkle some on him to win too,
- 15:15Speaker 1: But plus one sixty five to top ten. Got her up.
- 15:18Speaker 1: I mean Fitzpatrick and got her up. I love those
- 15:21Speaker 1: two guys coming to this week, and the odds of
- 15:23Speaker 1: plus three twenty five for gotta up to top ten.
- 15:27Speaker 1: He's made seven and a half million dollars this year.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Think about that. It's been a great time to be
- 15:33Speaker 1: a professional golfer. Now that the live conversation is really
- 15:37Speaker 1: kind of coming to a close, there is no disputing
- 15:42Speaker 1: that the amount of money, it's you know, the Tigers,
- 15:45Speaker 1: the Phills, the speech, the Roryes, like they were always
- 15:49Speaker 1: gonna be filthy, filthy rich. But it's like that nextier
- 15:52Speaker 1: of guy that isn't necessarily like driving TV ratings, aren't
- 15:56Speaker 1: the most famous guy kind of working their way up
- 15:58Speaker 1: all of a sudden you look down. It's like Chris
- 16:00Speaker 1: Gotterarup's gonna end the season making like fifteen million dollars
- 16:03Speaker 1: just on the course. That doesn't consider what any of
- 16:05Speaker 1: his sponsors are paying him, the BONUSY gets for wins
- 16:09Speaker 1: and top tens. Godafth's gonna have a twenty five million
- 16:12Speaker 1: dollar year. Godarff's gonna be like a you know, a
- 16:15Speaker 1: starter for the Knicks. I mean, that's that's fucking incredible.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Victor Hovelin top twenty plus one forty uh if you
- 16:24Speaker 1: wanna you know, I not gonna stun me. If we
- 16:27Speaker 1: look up and Cam Young is playing well, and listen,
- 16:31Speaker 1: I I hope some randos come into play. That's kind
- 16:35Speaker 1: of what makes this tournament cool. Is like all of
- 16:37Speaker 1: a sudden, John Vandervelt's up by two going into the
- 16:40Speaker 1: last hole. Now he obviously tripled Bogie and uh or
- 16:45Speaker 1: maybe he made a long putt for double to send
- 16:47Speaker 1: himself into extra holes. But like, I kind of enjoy that.
- 16:50Speaker 1: That's what makes you know, I have a lot of
- 16:54Speaker 1: respect and admiration for all the stories that came out
- 16:56Speaker 1: about Aaron Rye. I don't necessarily want to see them win.
- 17:00Speaker 1: I just I want to see Aaron right in the
- 17:02Speaker 1: mix and then Rory end up winning. I think that's
- 17:05Speaker 1: what we all want. This is individual sports. You know,
- 17:07Speaker 1: we're rooting for Federer, Nadal and Serena Williams, We're rooting
- 17:11Speaker 1: for Rory and Scotty here. But when you get some
- 17:14Speaker 1: random contenders, it does add kind of to the interest
- 17:19Speaker 1: level of like can this guy actually win it? Especially
- 17:22Speaker 1: in a major. Some of the random tournaments it can
- 17:25Speaker 1: bore you, but not in these venues. So this is
- 17:29Speaker 1: a really big deal. You know, England obviously has a
- 17:32Speaker 1: chance to win the World Cup. I mean by Sunday,
- 17:35Speaker 1: you know, could you imagine if like a Fleetwood or
- 17:37Speaker 1: Rory or someone some international player were to win the
- 17:40Speaker 1: Open in England wins the World Cup, be a pretty
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- 20:13Speaker 1: gets really hot in the summer. I always liked playing
- 20:15Speaker 1: golf the last couple of years, right around this time
- 20:18Speaker 1: because you could go out in the afternoon. I could
- 20:20Speaker 1: play eighteen holes in like two hours. There is no
- 20:23Speaker 1: one that's going to play one hundred eight degrees in
- 20:25Speaker 1: the afternoon. People that do play try to get out
- 20:27Speaker 1: early in the morning. I didn't mind sweating my ass
- 20:30Speaker 1: off being able to fly around. It's like, oh shit,
- 20:32Speaker 1: hit it out of bounds. I'll play two balls on
- 20:34Speaker 1: this hole. You just get the course to yourself and
- 20:38Speaker 1: not getting that luxury now I miss it, think about
- 20:41Speaker 1: it a lot. I'm just kind of getting my fixture
- 20:42Speaker 1: through watching these guys play on television. Let's answer a
- 20:48Speaker 1: couple questions, then we'll get out of here quick, quick,
- 20:51Speaker 1: little pod. I just wanted to get some golf wise
- 20:53Speaker 1: for this week. It's a big weeks last week really
- 20:57Speaker 1: of tournaments that matter. I mean, the playoffs is a joke.
- 21:00Speaker 1: It really is. I'll watch it, but there is no playoffs.
- 21:04Speaker 1: What's been tough for golf, and this is I don't
- 21:06Speaker 1: know necessarily what Brian roll App does to combat this.
- 21:10Speaker 1: But when you make the NFL playoffs, when you make
- 21:13Speaker 1: the college football playoffs, when you make the NBA playoffs,
- 21:18Speaker 1: those are the biggest games you will play. Right if
- 21:21Speaker 1: you're in the second round of the NFL Playoffs or
- 21:24Speaker 1: you're in the final four of the college football playoffs,
- 21:27Speaker 1: that's as big as it gets. Yet in golf, the
- 21:31Speaker 1: playoffs can't hold a candle to like the Players Championship,
- 21:36Speaker 1: let alone the Masters of the US Open or the Open.
- 21:40Speaker 1: The PGA Championship, which is clearly a distant fourth when
- 21:45Speaker 1: you're just ranking the majors, is infinitely bigger than all
- 21:51Speaker 1: the tournaments that are gonna happen after this event, not
- 21:54Speaker 1: even close. Yet. In those events, you know, by the
- 21:57Speaker 1: time you get to East Lake, they're playing for you know,
- 22:00Speaker 1: the guy who wins against twenty five thirty million dollars
- 22:03Speaker 1: going on down the line, ten million dollars, fifteen million dollars,
- 22:06Speaker 1: seven million dollars financially, that event is bigger. So if
- 22:11Speaker 1: you were an individual, like they take it really seriously,
- 22:14Speaker 1: but from a viewing standpoint, it just doesn't hit and
- 22:18Speaker 1: that this is what roll Up is really going to
- 22:21Speaker 1: have to figure out, which is not an easy path
- 22:24Speaker 1: forward because the majors are always going to be the
- 22:27Speaker 1: biggest events in golf. That is never gonna change. I mean, hew,
- 22:31Speaker 1: the biggest event of the year happens when's the Masters
- 22:36Speaker 1: early April? Think about that. The biggest event of the
- 22:40Speaker 1: golf season, which goes up until basically football starts, is
- 22:44Speaker 1: like the first or second week of April. You how
- 22:49Speaker 1: do you manufacture and manipulate the consumer's mind that this
- 22:54Speaker 1: really matters? Because the one thing we've seen with Live money,
- 23:00Speaker 1: it's not why we watch on our couch, right, It's like, oh,
- 23:02Speaker 1: these guys are playing for all this, who cares? The
- 23:05Speaker 1: reason nobody watchs live is because none of the events mattered,
- 23:10Speaker 1: none of them the most important event they had in
- 23:13Speaker 1: their five years of existence. If we assume that it's
- 23:15Speaker 1: gonna die, because listen, Scott O'Neill when we went to
- 23:19Speaker 1: Live was really cool. I thought he was a pretty
- 23:23Speaker 1: high level guy. He is. I get it. He doesn't
- 23:29Speaker 1: just want to quit and tap out. But it's like, bro,
- 23:32Speaker 1: just I'd let it go, just go back and work
- 23:34Speaker 1: in the NBA or something like this is this is
- 23:37Speaker 1: never gonna work, Like if your sales pitches. We're billions
- 23:40Speaker 1: of dollars in debt. Any big VC firm or company
- 23:44Speaker 1: that wants in can have it for write offs. That's
- 23:47Speaker 1: not gonna be a selling point. It's really not. And
- 23:50Speaker 1: it's like we got Bryson as a partner, like Bryson's.
- 23:54Speaker 1: You've had Bryson for five years and nobody watches. The
- 23:58Speaker 1: biggest event you had was Anthony him coming back from
- 24:01Speaker 1: like a drug addiction and who knows what else was
- 24:04Speaker 1: going on with him. That was by far your most
- 24:06Speaker 1: organic and cool moment. Not DJ or rom or Cam
- 24:13Speaker 1: Smith or Bryson or any of these guys. It was that.
- 24:17Speaker 1: So we just don't care about money, Like when you
- 24:22Speaker 1: watch a great game, like I was at the gym
- 24:25Speaker 1: the other day and they had an NFL network on
- 24:27Speaker 1: one of the televisions, and it was like Bill's Ravens.
- 24:30Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was Week one last year. I
- 24:33Speaker 1: think it was Sunday Night football back when Derrick Henry
- 24:35Speaker 1: fumbled and they had the crazy comeback. Could have been
- 24:38Speaker 1: a playoff game. I just kind of briefly saw it,
- 24:40Speaker 1: and I was pretty focused. I was I was in
- 24:42Speaker 1: a good group, so I didn't really watch beside one play.
- 24:45Speaker 1: It was zero zero when I picked peaked up. But
- 24:48Speaker 1: like when you watch Josh Allen and Lamar a play
- 24:51Speaker 1: in a game and it's Bill's Ravens. You don't give
- 24:55Speaker 1: a shit that Lamar and Josh each make fifty million dollars,
- 24:58Speaker 1: right or how much money dear? It doesn't mean you're
- 25:01Speaker 1: watching for the competition. You know there's a lot on
- 25:03Speaker 1: the line. There's a lot on the line for bragging
- 25:06Speaker 1: rights of these two MVP quarterbacks. There's a lot online
- 25:09Speaker 1: for these two teams that are trying to get over
- 25:11Speaker 1: the hump and win a Super Bowl. It feels big.
- 25:14Speaker 1: I'm talking Week one. The PGA Tour has that like
- 25:20Speaker 1: their events matter because there's history, Like if you win
- 25:23Speaker 1: the Travelers or you win Memorial or you win at
- 25:25Speaker 1: Torrey Pines, there's a long list of other legendary people
- 25:28Speaker 1: going back fifty eighty years that have won in a
- 25:31Speaker 1: lot of these courses and you're watching the live is like,
- 25:35Speaker 1: none of this matters. It's all manufactured and the only
- 25:38Speaker 1: way it existed was because this piff had the money
- 25:41Speaker 1: to give. Like the PGA Tour, which has really grown,
- 25:45Speaker 1: and let's face it took off once Tiger Woods got there. Financially,
- 25:49Speaker 1: the number one thing they have is the history. It's like, oh,
- 25:53Speaker 1: Arnold Palmer has won this, right, Jack Nicholas or Tom
- 25:58Speaker 1: Watson has won the tournament. I'm not even talking to majors.
- 26:02Speaker 1: I'm just because the PGA Tour doesn't have the majors.
- 26:05Speaker 1: And that's that's hard about changing on the fly. It's
- 26:10Speaker 1: like Adam Silver tried to make the NBA Cup because
- 26:13Speaker 1: he liked soccer, which I get in the biggest sport
- 26:17Speaker 1: in the world and they do a lot of different tournaments.
- 26:19Speaker 1: I'm not a soccer guy, but so I can't keep
- 26:21Speaker 1: up because I never know what's what It's the euro Cup,
- 26:24Speaker 1: Is this the copa Mayor? I don't know what's going on,
- 26:27Speaker 1: and he just the NBA Cup. But we all know
- 26:30Speaker 1: the NBA Cup doesn't matter. I mean it's it's just doesn't.
- 26:35Speaker 1: The Knicks ironically won it this year and ended up
- 26:37Speaker 1: winn the NBA Championship, but the year before the Lakers
- 26:39Speaker 1: won it, And it's like, what does this mean? This
- 26:43Speaker 1: is a This is a manufactured, manipulated event, right, This
- 26:47Speaker 1: isn't an organic growth event. You're just trying to make
- 26:50Speaker 1: something that matters. And I think that's really hard to
- 26:53Speaker 1: do in twenty twenty six. I think it's very difficult
- 26:57Speaker 1: in a day and age where our tension spans are
- 26:59Speaker 1: just and like especially a lot of the sports fans.
- 27:06Speaker 1: I'm forty years old. Like when I was a kid,
- 27:08Speaker 1: my dad used to tell me about like Mickey Mantle
- 27:11Speaker 1: or Jerry West or you know, you name it right,
- 27:15Speaker 1: people from his past. Mom and Ali. It's like there
- 27:19Speaker 1: was history in all this stuff that I was watching.
- 27:22Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Steve Young or Barry Bonds trying to
- 27:25Speaker 1: be better than so and so, and that's what all
- 27:29Speaker 1: these leagues kind of hang their hat on. I don't
- 27:32Speaker 1: know why I just went down that tangent, but just
- 27:34Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about it because I'm ready for
- 27:36Speaker 1: Live to Die. Question for the pod this from Wiley
- 27:43Speaker 1: Have did you ever take golf lessons? You seem like
- 27:46Speaker 1: a good golfer based on your scores you're giving us.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Is this self taught? I'm thinking about getting lessons and
- 27:51Speaker 1: curious if it's worth it. What I played growing up,
- 27:55Speaker 1: and I played on the high school golf team, I'm
- 27:57Speaker 1: better than now. I mean, I haven't played in a
- 27:59Speaker 1: month and a half two months, but I would say
- 28:02Speaker 1: over the course of the last couple of years, I
- 28:04Speaker 1: was pretty consistently. I could shoot mid to low seventies
- 28:08Speaker 1: and would hover in the high seventies. I was the
- 28:14Speaker 1: best version of a golfer over the last couple of years.
- 28:16Speaker 1: And I've ever been in my life. But I've been
- 28:19Speaker 1: playing a long time, and I can make tweaks and
- 28:22Speaker 1: do different things on my own. But I've gotten golf
- 28:24Speaker 1: lessons over the years. I actually got one earlier this
- 28:28Speaker 1: year to the main guy at TPC. He played at Washington.
- 28:32Speaker 1: He's Joel Damon's teacher, and he's got the full track man.
- 28:37Speaker 1: We had all the numbers, and he gave me a
- 28:40Speaker 1: pretty good because I was really kind of I'd played
- 28:43Speaker 1: in this member guest tournament and kind of could have
- 28:47Speaker 1: been the booze. I just started playing terrible. I mean,
- 28:50Speaker 1: I was hitting the ball all over the place, and
- 28:52Speaker 1: I was yanking. I play a cut, so I aimed
- 28:55Speaker 1: down the left side of the fairway, off the tee,
- 28:58Speaker 1: I aim the left side of the green, and I
- 29:00Speaker 1: was hitting hooks and hard draws. And if that's gonna happen,
- 29:05Speaker 1: I'm fucked because I'm not a guy that's gonna aim right.
- 29:09Speaker 1: So he went there and he kind of showed me
- 29:11Speaker 1: something I was doing. Now, granted, I don't think I've
- 29:13Speaker 1: practiced once since that lesson, but I do know the
- 29:16Speaker 1: swing feel on that, and it's a really big deal.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I do think whatever level you're at, if you're a
- 29:22Speaker 1: twenty five handicap, if you're a scratch, there's a reason
- 29:25Speaker 1: all these guys on the PGA Tour have a teacher, right.
- 29:27Speaker 1: It does help to have someone else look and see
- 29:31Speaker 1: what you're doing and help you now, and at the
- 29:34Speaker 1: levels like you don't necessarily need track man, And I
- 29:37Speaker 1: didn't go to it because the track man just he
- 29:40Speaker 1: has that and it was like, Okay, we can use this,
- 29:42Speaker 1: and it was a huge benefit. But I would recommend
- 29:48Speaker 1: they can be pricey. I remember maybe ten years ago
- 29:52Speaker 1: when I was living in the Bay Area, I used
- 29:54Speaker 1: to go to Boundary Oaks. This guy, I think he
- 29:57Speaker 1: was like seventy five dollars an hour. My god, I
- 30:00Speaker 1: would the day and age of those price points are done.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Do you have a dream for them for professional golfers
- 30:08Speaker 1: you'd want to play with. My friends always have arguments
- 30:11Speaker 1: about which players would be the most fun to play with.
- 30:16Speaker 1: I think this question depends on what you're looking for.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Are you looking to say I played with tiger Woods,
- 30:23Speaker 1: because if you're just playing with tiger woods, that's hard
- 30:25Speaker 1: to beat. I played in a forceome with tiger Woods,
- 30:28Speaker 1: and you could insert the next two guys. It could
- 30:31Speaker 1: be two randos. It would not batter. You would tell
- 30:34Speaker 1: people forever you played eighteen holes with tiger Woods, assuming
- 30:37Speaker 1: he currently could play. If you're looking at it from
- 30:40Speaker 1: an entertainment standpoint, he would not be the guy you
- 30:44Speaker 1: would want to play with. Guys that clearly like the
- 30:47Speaker 1: booz Now, historically the current golfers would not be near
- 30:53Speaker 1: the top of my list, Like my list would be
- 30:56Speaker 1: probably Lee Trevino, Arnold Palmer and someone else fun and
- 31:01Speaker 1: like daily that it would be something like that. I
- 31:05Speaker 1: would say of the current guys, like are we boozing?
- 31:10Speaker 1: Because if we're boozing, it would probably be like Speek
- 31:14Speaker 1: JT and like Ricky and we're just having cocktails having
- 31:18Speaker 1: a good time. You could even get go a little
- 31:21Speaker 1: off the beaten path and go kind of the Kisner
- 31:23Speaker 1: crew that they would be fun. But I think if
- 31:27Speaker 1: you're just going the famous guys, you know like Scotty
- 31:31Speaker 1: would probably be fun. But is he throwing back a
- 31:34Speaker 1: twelve pack? Because if you're gonna play with these guys
- 31:36Speaker 1: and enjoy yourself and listen, I'm one of those guys
- 31:38Speaker 1: like I will have cocktails when I play. I also
- 31:40Speaker 1: play rounds where I don't drink, so it's like I
- 31:43Speaker 1: don't need to drink to have a good time playing golf.
- 31:45Speaker 1: Sometimes I play better when I have a cocktail or two.
- 31:48Speaker 1: But I think you'd want a happy medium. You'd want
- 31:53Speaker 1: to just have some guys, especially if you were getting
- 31:56Speaker 1: access to like where they play, so probably a sweet
- 31:59Speaker 1: track and those guys boos them. I think it would
- 32:02Speaker 1: be someone in Jupiter, Florida. You know Homa here would
- 32:06Speaker 1: be fun. Like I don't think you'd go wrong with
- 32:08Speaker 1: like Homa Joel Damon and just insert someone else you
- 32:14Speaker 1: know to have a good time. I think that'd be
- 32:17Speaker 1: a real Joel Damon would be an easy guy to
- 32:19Speaker 1: play with. Beer drinker just doesn't take himself too seriously.
- 32:25Speaker 1: You know, Max is awesome whenever he plays with anyone
- 32:27Speaker 1: on YouTube golf. So I would say of the Scottsdale guys,
- 32:32Speaker 1: they would be near the top, like John Rahm. How
- 32:34Speaker 1: fun is John going to be to play with? Probably
- 32:37Speaker 1: not my number one choice the Euro. I mean, he
- 32:40Speaker 1: probably finds some pretty fun Euros, but I think he'd
- 32:44Speaker 1: probably keep it Like I think it'd be hard to
- 32:46Speaker 1: beat the Speeth jt Ricky if they're all vibing and
- 32:50Speaker 1: having a good time. Whend on that again, I'm going
- 32:53Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick got her up in Hoveland. If you want to
- 32:57Speaker 1: take Fitzpatrick got Her Up to win, do not blame you.
- 33:00Speaker 1: I'm hammering them both the top ten and I'm taking
- 33:02Speaker 1: VIC to top twenty. The volume