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The Rise of Walter Eckersall: Chicago’s First Sports Superstar · Sports History Network

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  You
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  know,
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  the
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  preservation
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  of
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  football
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  history
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  would
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  be
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  nowhere
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  near
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  it
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  is
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  today
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  without
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  forefathers
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  and
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  trailblazers
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  of
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  early
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  football.
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  Today
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  one,
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  a
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  gentleman
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  named
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  Ecky
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  from
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  Chicago
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  with
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  author
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  Chris
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  Serb,
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  who
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  wrote
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  a
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  biography
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  about
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  him
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  recently.
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  up
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  in
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  And
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  welcome
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  to
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  another
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  to
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  interview
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  an
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  author
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  about
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  a
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  recent
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  book
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  on
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  a
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  football
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  legend.
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  This
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  legend
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  goes
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  way
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  back
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  in
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  time
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  and
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  his
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  exploits
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  have
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  taken
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  to
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  many
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  things
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  that
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  we
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  enjoy
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  in
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  the
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  modern
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  game.
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  His
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  name
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  is
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  Walter
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  Eckersol.
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  As
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  the
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  subject
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  of
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  book,
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  the
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  author's
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  name
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  is
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  Chris
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  Serb.
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  Chris,
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
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  Pig
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  Pen,
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  Darren.
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  Thanks
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  It's.
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  I
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  could
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  talk
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  about
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  Eckersol
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  all
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  day,
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  so
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  I'm
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  thrilled
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  to
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  have
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  the
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  forum.
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  Well,
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  we
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  will
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  get
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  into
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  Eckersol,
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  but
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  I
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  guess
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  before
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  we
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  do
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  that,
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  let's
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  talk
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  about
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  Chris
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  Cerb.
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  Why
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  don't
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  you
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  tell
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  us
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  yourself
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  in
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  respect
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  to
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  football
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  and
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  football
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  history
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  and
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  how
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  you
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  got
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  interested
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  in
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  writing
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  a
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  book
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  about
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  Walter
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  Eckersol.
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  All
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  right,
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  so
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  I
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  have
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  just
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  always
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  been
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  a
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  sports
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  fan,
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  always
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  loved
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  my,
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  especially
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  my
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  Chicago
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  sports,
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  my
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  Chicago
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  sports
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  history.
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  Grew
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  up
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  on
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  my
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  dad's
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  knee.
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  He
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  would,
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  he,
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  he
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  was
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  a
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  man.
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  They
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  didn't
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  have
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  a
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  at
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  the
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  time,
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  but
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  he
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  would
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  tell
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  me
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  about
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  Amos
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  Alonzo
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  Stag
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  and
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  the
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  of
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  Chicago
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  the,
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  the
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  history
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  and
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  tradition
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  and
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  the
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  Chicago
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  Bears,
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  of
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  course,
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  locally
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  here.
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  So
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  I,
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  I
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  just
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  always
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  had
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  an
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  affinity
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  for
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  sports
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  history,
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  for
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  football
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  history,
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  for
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  Chicago
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  sports
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  history,
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  all
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  that
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  good
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  stuff.
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  I
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  was
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  trained
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  as
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  a
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  journalist,
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  have
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  a
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  journalism
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  degree
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  from
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  Northwestern
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  University.
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  Was
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  working
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  as
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  a
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  magazine
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  journalist
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  for
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  years,
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  and
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  then
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  my
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  dream
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  job
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  almost
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  fell
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  my
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  lap.
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  I
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  got
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  to
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  join
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  the
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  Chicago
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  fire
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  department
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  in
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  1999,
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  I
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  was,
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  I
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  had
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  just
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  turned
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  29
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  years
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  old.
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  So
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  I
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  left
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  the,
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  I
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  left
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  the
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  full
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  time
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  journalism
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  world
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  became
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  a,
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  a
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  full
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  time
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  firefighter.
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  But
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  I
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  started
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  freelancing
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  right
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  away
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  firefighters
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  an
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  ideal
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  schedule
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  for
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  doing
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  projects
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  book
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  an
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  sports,
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  sports
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  So
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  we
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  work
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  24
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  hours
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  on,
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  48
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  hours
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  off.
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  So
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  in
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  those
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  48
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  hours
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  I
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  do
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  research,
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  write
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  articles,
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  have
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  done
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  a
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  few
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  did
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  Football
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  book
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  about
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  World
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  War
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  I
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  era
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  football
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  how
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  the
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  World
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  War
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  led
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  birth
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  NFL.
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  That
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  was,
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  was
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  kind
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  of
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  a,
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  kind
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  of
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  an
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  interesting
• 4:10
  take
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  on
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  it.
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  think
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  that
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  me
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  Ross
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  Award
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  for,
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  for
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  that
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  effort
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  and,
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  and
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  then
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  my
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  next
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  effort,
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  uh,
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  became
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  uh,
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  became
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  er,
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  uh,
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  kind
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  of
• 4:20
  doing
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  a
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  deep
• 4:21
  dive
• 4:21
  into
• 4:21
  this
• 4:22
  figure
• 4:22
  whose
• 4:22
  path
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  had
• 4:23
  crossed
• 4:23
  in
• 4:24
  my
• 4:24
  research
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  but
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  uh,
• 4:26
  kind
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  of
• 4:27
  superficially,
• 4:28
  kind
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  of
• 4:28
  tangentially
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  had
• 4:29
  touched
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  upon
• 4:30
  him
• 4:30
  before.
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  So
• 4:31
  I
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  decided
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  to
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  go
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  all
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  in.
• 4:33
  I
• 4:33
  decided
• 4:33
  that
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  would
• 4:34
  be
• 4:34
  my
• 4:34
  next
• 4:34
  project.
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  And,
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  and
• 4:36
  he
• 4:36
  was
• 4:36
  even
• 4:36
  more
• 4:37
  fascinating
• 4:37
  than
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  I
• 4:38
  anticipated.
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  Well,
• 4:40
  first
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  all,
• 4:41
  thank
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  for
• 4:42
  your
• 4:42
  services,
• 4:43
  being
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  firefighter
• 4:44
  and
• 4:44
  a
• 4:45
  lifesaver
• 4:45
  and
• 4:45
  you
• 4:46
  know,
• 4:46
  somebody
• 4:46
  that
• 4:46
  we
• 4:47
  can
• 4:47
  depend
• 4:47
  on
• 4:48
  when
• 4:48
  times
• 4:48
  are
• 4:48
  bad.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  second
• 4:49
  of
• 4:50
  all,
• 4:50
  you
• 4:50
  know,
• 4:50
  thank
• 4:50
  you
• 4:50
  for
• 4:51
  preserving
• 4:51
  this
• 4:51
  football
• 4:52
  history
• 4:52
  that
• 4:52
  you
• 4:52
  have
• 4:52
  in
• 4:53
  both
• 4:53
  war
• 4:53
  football
• 4:54
  and
• 4:54
  here
• 4:54
  in
• 4:55
  Equi
• 4:55
  that
• 4:55
  we're
• 4:55
  going
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  to
• 4:56
  be
• 4:56
  talking
• 4:56
  about
• 4:56
  tonight.
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  Now
• 4:58
  Chris,
• 4:59
  maybe
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  could
• 5:00
  just
• 5:00
  briefly
• 5:01
  tell
• 5:01
  us
• 5:02
  who
• 5:02
  Walter
• 5:03
  Eckersol
• 5:03
  was
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  why
• 5:04
  is
• 5:04
  he
• 5:05
  important
• 5:05
  to
• 5:06
  football
• 5:06
  history?
• 5:09
  So
• 5:09
  Walter
• 5:09
  Eckersol
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  was
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  an
• 5:11
  athlete
• 5:11
  here
• 5:11
  in
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  Chicago
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  at
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  turn
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  of
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  20th
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  century.
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  He
• 5:17
  was
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  the
• 5:19
  first
• 5:20
  schoolboy
• 5:21
  superstar
• 5:21
  in
• 5:21
  Chicago
• 5:22
  sports
• 5:22
  history.
• 5:23
  He
• 5:23
  was
• 5:23
  a,
• 5:23
  he
• 5:24
  was
• 5:24
  a
• 5:24
  three
• 5:24
  sports
• 5:24
  star.
• 5:25
  He
• 5:25
  was
• 5:25
  a
• 5:25
  champion,
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  league
• 5:28
  champion,
• 5:28
  a
• 5:28
  state
• 5:28
  champion,
• 5:29
  even
• 5:29
  a
• 5:29
  national
• 5:30
  champion
• 5:30
  in
• 5:31
  three
• 5:31
  different
• 5:32
  sports.
• 5:32
  He
• 5:32
  was,
• 5:33
  he
• 5:33
  was
• 5:33
  solid
• 5:33
  in
• 5:33
  football,
• 5:34
  he
• 5:34
  was
• 5:34
  solid
• 5:34
  in
• 5:35
  baseball.
• 5:35
  He
• 5:35
  was
• 5:35
  solid
• 5:36
  in
• 5:36
  track.
• 5:36
  He
• 5:36
  was,
• 5:37
  he
• 5:37
  was,
• 5:38
  he
• 5:38
  was
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  first
• 5:39
  high
• 5:39
  school
• 5:39
  athlete
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  got
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  big
• 5:41
  photos
• 5:41
  and
• 5:41
  the
• 5:42
  splashy
• 5:42
  headlines
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  stuff
• 5:43
  like
• 5:43
  that.
• 5:43
  So
• 5:44
  he's
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  pioneer
• 5:44
  in
• 5:45
  that
• 5:45
  respect.
• 5:46
  And
• 5:46
  then
• 5:46
  at
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  University
• 5:47
  of
• 5:47
  Chicago,
• 5:47
  which
• 5:48
  was
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  fairly
• 5:49
  new
• 5:49
  university
• 5:50
  at
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  time
• 5:50
  it
• 5:50
  was
• 5:51
  founded
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  1892.
• 5:53
  He
• 5:53
  arrived
• 5:53
  there
• 5:54
  in
• 5:54
  1903.
• 5:54
  The
• 5:54
  Big
• 5:55
  Ten
• 5:55
  itself
• 5:55
  was,
• 5:56
  was
• 5:56
  fairly
• 5:56
  new.
• 5:57
  It
• 5:57
  was
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  Big
• 5:57
  Nine
• 5:57
  at
• 5:57
  the
• 5:58
  time,
• 5:58
  but
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  was,
• 5:59
  it
• 5:59
  was
• 5:59
  founded
• 6:00
  in
• 6:00
  1896.
• 6:01
  He
• 6:02
  took
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  University
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  Chicago
• 6:04
  to
• 6:05
  its
• 6:05
  greatest
• 6:05
  heights.
• 6:06
  He,
• 6:08
  he
• 6:08
  was,
• 6:09
  he
• 6:09
  was
• 6:09
  an
• 6:09
  all
• 6:09
  Big
• 6:09
  Ten
• 6:10
  player
• 6:10
  for
• 6:10
  four
• 6:10
  years
• 6:10
  or
• 6:11
  an
• 6:11
  all
• 6:11
  Big
• 6:11
  nine,
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  guess
• 6:12
  at
• 6:12
  the
• 6:12
  time
• 6:12
  all
• 6:12
  Big
• 6:12
  nine
• 6:13
  player
• 6:13
  for
• 6:13
  four
• 6:13
  years
• 6:13
  as
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  quarterback.
• 6:15
  Now
• 6:15
  three
• 6:15
  of
• 6:15
  those
• 6:15
  four
• 6:16
  years
• 6:16
  were
• 6:16
  before
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  forward
• 6:17
  pass.
• 6:17
  So
• 6:17
  he
• 6:17
  was
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  running
• 6:18
  quarterback.
• 6:18
  But
• 6:18
  in
• 6:18
  that
• 6:19
  fourth
• 6:19
  year
• 6:19
  in
• 6:19
  his
• 6:19
  senior
• 6:19
  year
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  forward
• 6:20
  pass
• 6:20
  was
• 6:20
  legal
• 6:21
  and
• 6:21
  he
• 6:21
  actually
• 6:22
  he
• 6:22
  was
• 6:22
  a,
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  very
• 6:23
  good
• 6:23
  runner
• 6:24
  still,
• 6:24
  but
• 6:24
  he
• 6:24
  excelled
• 6:25
  at
• 6:25
  throwing
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  ball.
• 6:26
  It
• 6:26
  was
• 6:27
  kind
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  this
• 6:27
  newfangled
• 6:28
  gadget,
• 6:28
  this
• 6:28
  newfangled
• 6:29
  gizmo
• 6:30
  and
• 6:30
  he
• 6:31
  was
• 6:31
  very
• 6:31
  good
• 6:31
  in
• 6:32
  very
• 6:32
  limited
• 6:32
  duty
• 6:33
  during
• 6:33
  that,
• 6:34
  during
• 6:34
  that
• 6:34
  senior
• 6:34
  year
• 6:35
  of
• 6:35
  his.
• 6:35
  But
• 6:36
  but
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  real
• 6:36
  big
• 6:37
  year,
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  big,
• 6:37
  the
• 6:38
  big
• 6:38
  deal
• 6:38
  was
• 6:38
  1905
• 6:39
  when
• 6:39
  he
• 6:39
  led
• 6:40
  University
• 6:40
  of
• 6:40
  Chicago
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  an
• 6:42
  undefeated
• 6:42
  season.
• 6:43
  They
• 6:44
  won
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  national
• 6:44
  championship
• 6:46
  retroactively
• 6:46
  I
• 6:47
  guess
• 6:47
  the
• 6:48
  national
• 6:48
  championship
• 6:48
  in
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  Big
• 6:49
  ten
• 6:49
  or
• 6:49
  the,
• 6:49
  or
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  big
• 6:50
  nine
• 6:50
  championship
• 6:51
  with
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  magnificent
• 6:53
  two
• 6:53
  to
• 6:53
  nothing
• 6:54
  victory
• 6:54
  over
• 6:54
  Michigan
• 6:55
  which
• 6:56
  was,
• 6:56
  which
• 6:57
  broke
• 6:57
  their
• 6:57
  56
• 6:58
  game
• 6:58
  unbeaten
• 6:59
  streak.
• 6:59
  That
• 6:59
  was
• 6:59
  the,
• 6:59
  that
• 7:00
  was
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  legendary
• 7:01
  point
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  minute
• 7:01
  teams
• 7:02
  with
• 7:02
  Feeling
• 7:03
  Yost
• 7:03
  as
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  coach.
• 7:04
  Willie
• 7:05
  Heston
• 7:05
  played
• 7:06
  on
• 7:06
  most
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  those
• 7:07
  teams
• 7:07
  but
• 7:07
  he
• 7:07
  didn't
• 7:08
  play
• 7:08
  on
• 7:08
  that
• 7:08
  1905
• 7:09
  team.
• 7:09
  He
• 7:09
  had
• 7:09
  just
• 7:09
  graduated.
• 7:10
  So
• 7:11
  Ecky
• 7:11
  was.
• 7:12
  So
• 7:12
  he
• 7:12
  was
• 7:12
  a
• 7:12
  big
• 7:12
  deal
• 7:12
  as
• 7:12
  a
• 7:13
  high
• 7:13
  school
• 7:13
  athlete,
• 7:14
  huge
• 7:14
  deal
• 7:14
  as
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  college
• 7:15
  athlete.
• 7:15
  He
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  a
• 7:16
  three
• 7:16
  time
• 7:16
  all
• 7:17
  American
• 7:17
  which
• 7:17
  was,
• 7:18
  which
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  pretty
• 7:19
  rare
• 7:20
  at
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  time,
• 7:21
  but
• 7:21
  it
• 7:21
  was
• 7:22
  extremely
• 7:23
  rare.
• 7:23
  He
• 7:23
  was
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  first
• 7:24
  one,
• 7:24
  the
• 7:24
  last
• 7:25
  one
• 7:25
  until
• 7:25
  Red
• 7:25
  Grange
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  be
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  three
• 7:26
  time
• 7:27
  all
• 7:27
  American
• 7:27
  who
• 7:28
  was
• 7:28
  not
• 7:28
  from
• 7:28
  one
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  the,
• 7:29
  one
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  big
• 7:30
  three.
• 7:30
  Harvard,
• 7:31
  Yale
• 7:31
  or
• 7:31
  Princeton
• 7:32
  or
• 7:32
  maybe
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  could
• 7:32
  throw
• 7:33
  Penn
• 7:33
  in
• 7:33
  there.
• 7:33
  But,
• 7:34
  but
• 7:34
  football
• 7:35
  the,
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  that
• 7:36
  was
• 7:36
  the
• 7:37
  bias
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  people
• 7:37
  like
• 7:38
  Walter
• 7:38
  Camp
• 7:38
  and
• 7:39
  Park
• 7:39
  Davis
• 7:39
  and
• 7:39
  stuff
• 7:40
  who
• 7:40
  were,
• 7:40
  who
• 7:40
  were
• 7:40
  naming
• 7:41
  these
• 7:41
  teams.
• 7:41
  But
• 7:41
  they,
• 7:42
  they
• 7:42
  thought
• 7:42
  that.
• 7:43
  They
• 7:43
  thought
• 7:43
  that
• 7:43
  Midwest
• 7:44
  football
• 7:44
  just
• 7:45
  wasn't
• 7:45
  as
• 7:45
  good
• 7:45
  as
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  east
• 7:46
  coast
• 7:46
  version.
• 7:46
  But
• 7:46
  they
• 7:46
  made
• 7:47
  an
• 7:47
  exception
• 7:47
  for,
• 7:48
  for
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  football
• 7:49
  genius
• 7:49
  like,
• 7:50
  like
• 7:50
  Willie
• 7:51
  Heston,
• 7:51
  his
• 7:51
  contemporary.
• 7:52
  Although
• 7:52
  he
• 7:52
  was
• 7:52
  only
• 7:52
  a
• 7:53
  two
• 7:53
  time
• 7:53
  first
• 7:53
  team
• 7:54
  all
• 7:54
  American.
• 7:54
  Ecky
• 7:55
  was
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  three
• 7:55
  time
• 7:56
  first
• 7:56
  team
• 7:56
  All
• 7:56
  American.
• 7:57
  The,
• 7:57
  the
• 7:58
  first
• 7:58
  one
• 7:58
  from
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  Midwest
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  the,
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  the,
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  last
• 8:00
  one
• 8:00
  until
• 8:00
  red
• 8:01
  Grange
• 8:01
  some
• 8:01
  20
• 8:02
  years
• 8:02
  later.
• 8:02
  So,
• 8:03
  so
• 8:03
  he
• 8:03
  was
• 8:04
  as
• 8:04
  an,
• 8:04
  as
• 8:04
  a
• 8:05
  high
• 8:05
  school
• 8:05
  athlete.
• 8:05
  He
• 8:05
  was
• 8:05
  tremendous
• 8:06
  college
• 8:07
  athlete,
• 8:07
  he
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  tremendous.
• 8:08
  And
• 8:08
  then
• 8:09
  he
• 8:09
  became
• 8:09
  the
• 8:11
  premier
• 8:11
  sports
• 8:11
  writer,
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  lead
• 8:12
  sports
• 8:12
  writer
• 8:13
  for
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  Chicago
• 8:13
  Tribune
• 8:14
  for
• 8:15
  20
• 8:15
  plus
• 8:15
  years.
• 8:16
  He
• 8:16
  was.
• 8:16
  He
• 8:17
  started
• 8:17
  out
• 8:17
  as
• 8:17
  football
• 8:18
  only
• 8:18
  writer
• 8:18
  but
• 8:19
  eventually
• 8:19
  he
• 8:19
  became
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  jack
• 8:20
  of
• 8:20
  all
• 8:20
  trades.
• 8:21
  He
• 8:21
  covered
• 8:22
  boxing,
• 8:23
  he
• 8:23
  covered
• 8:23
  track
• 8:23
  and
• 8:24
  field,
• 8:24
  he
• 8:24
  covered
• 8:25
  swimming,
• 8:26
  he
• 8:26
  covered.
• 8:26
  He
• 8:27
  was
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  college
• 8:28
  baseball
• 8:28
  beat
• 8:28
  writer
• 8:28
  for
• 8:29
  a
• 8:29
  couple
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  years.
• 8:30
  He
• 8:30
  covered
• 8:31
  just
• 8:31
  random
• 8:32
  things
• 8:32
  like
• 8:32
  archery
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  shooting
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  even
• 8:34
  ski
• 8:34
  jumping.
• 8:35
  Basically
• 8:36
  if
• 8:36
  people
• 8:36
  can
• 8:36
  compete
• 8:37
  in
• 8:37
  something,
• 8:37
  Walter
• 8:38
  Eckersall
• 8:38
  covered
• 8:39
  it.
• 8:39
  He
• 8:39
  was,
• 8:39
  he
• 8:40
  was
• 8:40
  Kind
• 8:41
  of
• 8:41
  the.
• 8:41
  Kind
• 8:41
  of
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  lens
• 8:42
  through
• 8:42
  which
• 8:43
  Chicagoans,
• 8:43
  and
• 8:44
  by
• 8:44
  extension
• 8:44
  the
• 8:45
  country,
• 8:45
  because
• 8:45
  he
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  widely
• 8:46
  syndicated,
• 8:46
  he
• 8:47
  was
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  lens
• 8:47
  through
• 8:47
  which
• 8:48
  people
• 8:48
  came
• 8:48
  to
• 8:48
  understand
• 8:48
  their
• 8:49
  sports
• 8:49
  at
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  time
• 8:50
  when
• 8:50
  the
• 8:51
  sports
• 8:51
  page
• 8:51
  was
• 8:52
  really
• 8:52
  growing
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  maturing
• 8:53
  and
• 8:54
  becoming
• 8:54
  something
• 8:54
  that
• 8:54
  we
• 8:55
  would
• 8:55
  recognize
• 8:55
  today.
• 8:56
  So
• 8:57
  fascinating,
• 8:57
  dude,
• 8:58
  for
• 8:58
  sure.
• 8:58
  Yeah.
• 8:59
  Right.
• 8:59
  Right
• 8:59
  on
• 8:59
  the
• 9:00
  cusp
• 9:00
  of
• 9:00
  sports
• 9:01
  journalism
• 9:01
  as
• 9:02
  it's
• 9:02
  getting
• 9:03
  out
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  the.
• 9:03
  Mixed
• 9:03
  in
• 9:04
  with
• 9:04
  the.
• 9:04
  The
• 9:04
  local
• 9:04
  news
• 9:05
  or
• 9:05
  wherever
• 9:05
  it
• 9:06
  would
• 9:06
  be
• 9:06
  in
• 9:06
  your
• 9:06
  local
• 9:06
  paper
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  having
• 9:08
  its
• 9:08
  own
• 9:08
  page.
• 9:08
  That.
• 9:09
  Very
• 9:09
  interesting.
• 9:09
  Now
• 9:10
  something
• 9:10
  that
• 9:11
  just
• 9:11
  dawned
• 9:11
  on
• 9:11
  me
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  maybe.
• 9:12
  Maybe
• 9:12
  you
• 9:12
  knew
• 9:13
  this
• 9:13
  already,
• 9:13
  but
• 9:13
  you
• 9:14
  know,
• 9:14
  always
• 9:15
  go
• 9:15
  back
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  two.
• 9:16
  Two
• 9:17
  early
• 9:18
  Thomas
• 9:18
  Edison
• 9:19
  films
• 9:19
  when
• 9:19
  he
• 9:19
  was
• 9:19
  developing
• 9:20
  motion
• 9:21
  pictures.
• 9:21
  And
• 9:21
  one
• 9:21
  of
• 9:21
  them
• 9:22
  was
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  1904
• 9:23
  Chicago
• 9:24
  Maroons,
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  think
• 9:24
  it
• 9:24
  was
• 9:24
  against
• 9:25
  Michigan,
• 9:25
  if
• 9:26
  I'm
• 9:26
  not
• 9:26
  mistaken.
• 9:26
  So
• 9:27
  I'm
• 9:27
  sure
• 9:27
  E
• 9:27
  is
• 9:28
  in
• 9:28
  there
• 9:28
  somewhere
• 9:28
  and
• 9:29
  probably,
• 9:30
  you
• 9:30
  know,
• 9:30
  Heston
• 9:31
  is
• 9:31
  too.
• 9:31
  But
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  don't
• 9:31
  know
• 9:32
  if
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  could
• 9:32
  identify
• 9:33
  him
• 9:33
  because
• 9:33
  of
• 9:33
  course
• 9:33
  they
• 9:33
  don't
• 9:33
  have
• 9:34
  numbers
• 9:34
  and
• 9:34
  it's
• 9:34
  a
• 9:35
  little
• 9:35
  bit
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  blurred
• 9:35
  images.
• 9:36
  But
• 9:37
  how
• 9:37
  fascinating
• 9:37
  is
• 9:37
  that?
• 9:37
  He's
• 9:38
  probably
• 9:38
  one
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  first
• 9:38
  filmed
• 9:39
  football
• 9:39
  players
• 9:40
  of
• 9:41
  all
• 9:41
  time
• 9:41
  too.
• 9:42
  Yeah.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:43
  that's.
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  think
• 9:43
  that
• 9:44
  film's
• 9:44
  preserved
• 9:45
  on
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  Library
• 9:45
  of
• 9:45
  Congress.
• 9:46
  I've
• 9:46
  watched
• 9:46
  it
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  couple
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  times.
• 9:48
  I've
• 9:49
  strained
• 9:49
  my
• 9:49
  eyes
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  get
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  glimpse
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  Aersol.
• 9:51
  I'm
• 9:51
  sure
• 9:52
  he's
• 9:52
  in
• 9:52
  there.
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  think
• 9:53
  that
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  game
• 9:54
  was
• 9:54
  at
• 9:55
  Michigan.
• 9:55
  That
• 9:55
  was
• 9:56
  at
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  old
• 9:56
  fairy
• 9:57
  field
• 9:57
  at.
• 9:58
  At
• 9:58
  University
• 9:58
  of
• 9:59
  Michigan.
• 9:59
  And
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  think
• 10:00
  that
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  cameraman
• 10:01
  was
• 10:03
  kind
• 10:03
  of
• 10:03
  focusing
• 10:03
  on
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  Michigan
• 10:04
  folks.
• 10:04
  So
• 10:05
  it's
• 10:05
  really
• 10:05
  hard
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  pick
• 10:06
  up
• 10:06
  glimpses
• 10:07
  of
• 10:07
  Eckersol.
• 10:07
  We
• 10:08
  could
• 10:08
  probably
• 10:08
  pick
• 10:08
  him
• 10:09
  out
• 10:09
  if
• 10:09
  we
• 10:09
  slowed
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  down.
• 10:11
  Suprem.
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  didn't
• 10:13
  have
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  time
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  do
• 10:13
  such
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  thing.
• 10:14
  But
• 10:14
  it's
• 10:14
  really
• 10:15
  fascinating
• 10:15
  that
• 10:16
  that's.
• 10:16
  That.
• 10:17
  That
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  still
• 10:17
  exists
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  that.
• 10:18
  That's
• 10:18
  kind
• 10:19
  of
• 10:19
  this.
• 10:19
  This
• 10:20
  little
• 10:20
  piece
• 10:20
  of
• 10:20
  evidence.
• 10:21
  That
• 10:21
  game,
• 10:21
  by
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  way,
• 10:21
  Chicago
• 10:22
  lost.
• 10:22
  I
• 10:23
  think
• 10:23
  it
• 10:23
  was
• 10:23
  22
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  12.
• 10:24
  So
• 10:24
  that
• 10:25
  was.
• 10:25
  That
• 10:25
  was
• 10:26
  Walter
• 10:26
  Eckersol's
• 10:26
  last
• 10:27
  loss
• 10:28
  until
• 10:29
  his
• 10:29
  senior
• 10:29
  year
• 10:29
  when
• 10:29
  he
• 10:30
  had
• 10:30
  a.
• 10:30
  He
• 10:31
  had
• 10:31
  a.
• 10:32
  A
• 10:32
  4
• 10:32
  to
• 10:32
  2
• 10:32
  loss
• 10:33
  on
• 10:33
  a
• 10:33
  muddy
• 10:33
  field,
• 10:34
  uh,
• 10:34
  to,
• 10:34
  uh,
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  Bobby
• 10:35
  Marshall,
• 10:36
  another.
• 10:36
  Another
• 10:37
  football
• 10:37
  great
• 10:37
  Poppy
• 10:38
  Marshall
• 10:38
  and
• 10:38
  uh,
• 10:38
  and
• 10:38
  a
• 10:38
  great
• 10:39
  Minnesota
• 10:39
  team
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  1906.
• 10:40
  But,
• 10:40
  uh.
• 10:41
  But
• 10:41
  that
• 10:41
  was,
• 10:42
  uh.
• 10:42
  Those
• 10:42
  were
• 10:43
  really
• 10:44
  epic
• 10:44
  contests
• 10:45
  of
• 10:46
  giants.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  it's.
• 10:47
  It
• 10:48
  was
• 10:48
  really
• 10:48
  fun
• 10:48
  to
• 10:49
  relive
• 10:49
  that
• 10:49
  mostly
• 10:50
  through
• 10:51
  reading
• 10:51
  newspaper
• 10:52
  accounts.
• 10:52
  But
• 10:53
  as
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  said,
• 10:53
  we
• 10:54
  do
• 10:54
  have
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  film
• 10:54
  of
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  Michigan
• 10:55
  Chicago
• 10:56
  game.
• 10:56
  Very,
• 10:57
  very.
• 10:57
  A
• 10:57
  very
• 10:58
  short
• 10:58
  little
• 10:58
  bit
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  film.
• 11:00
  Yeah.
• 11:00
  Now,
• 11:00
  if
• 11:01
  I'm
• 11:01
  not
• 11:01
  mistaken.
• 11:01
  Did
• 11:01
  Eckersol,
• 11:02
  didn't
• 11:02
  he
• 11:02
  get
• 11:03
  into
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  little
• 11:03
  bit
• 11:03
  of
• 11:03
  officiating
• 11:04
  football
• 11:05
  also?
• 11:09
  This
• 11:10
  was
• 11:10
  kind
• 11:10
  of
• 11:10
  a
• 11:10
  sidelight,
• 11:11
  but
• 11:12
  it's
• 11:12
  an
• 11:12
  important,
• 11:14
  it's
• 11:14
  an
• 11:14
  important
• 11:14
  piece
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  that
• 11:15
  third
• 11:15
  act.
• 11:15
  He
• 11:15
  was
• 11:16
  this,
• 11:18
  this
• 11:18
  kind
• 11:18
  of
• 11:19
  doesn't
• 11:19
  work
• 11:19
  with
• 11:20
  our
• 11:20
  sensibilities
• 11:20
  today,
• 11:21
  but
• 11:21
  nobody
• 11:21
  had
• 11:21
  a
• 11:22
  problem
• 11:22
  with
• 11:22
  it
• 11:22
  at
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  time.
• 11:22
  A
• 11:23
  lot
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  sports
• 11:23
  writers
• 11:24
  doubled
• 11:25
  as
• 11:25
  game
• 11:25
  officials
• 11:25
  and
• 11:26
  Walter
• 11:26
  Ersall
• 11:27
  was
• 11:27
  first
• 11:28
  and
• 11:28
  foremost
• 11:28
  above
• 11:29
  among
• 11:29
  them.
• 11:29
  He
• 11:30
  was
• 11:30
  probably
• 11:30
  the
• 11:31
  best
• 11:31
  known
• 11:31
  football
• 11:31
  official
• 11:32
  in
• 11:32
  the
• 11:33
  country
• 11:33
  from
• 11:34
  1907,
• 11:35
  which
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  his
• 11:35
  first
• 11:36
  year
• 11:36
  out
• 11:36
  of
• 11:36
  college,
• 11:36
  to
• 11:37
  until
• 11:37
  his,
• 11:38
  his
• 11:38
  death
• 11:38
  in
• 11:38
  1930.
• 11:39
  He
• 11:39
  was,
• 11:40
  he
• 11:40
  was
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  guy,
• 11:41
  he
• 11:41
  officiated
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  Four
• 11:42
  Horsemen
• 11:43
  game,
• 11:43
  the,
• 11:44
  the,
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  one
• 11:45
  that
• 11:45
  Grantland
• 11:45
  Rice
• 11:46
  immortalized.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  know,
• 11:47
  he
• 11:47
  was
• 11:47
  also
• 11:47
  banging
• 11:48
  out
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  story
• 11:48
  after
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  fact.
• 11:49
  So
• 11:50
  kind
• 11:50
  of
• 11:50
  hard
• 11:51
  to
• 11:51
  keep
• 11:51
  your
• 11:51
  facts
• 11:51
  straight
• 11:52
  when
• 11:52
  you're
• 11:52
  running
• 11:52
  up
• 11:53
  and
• 11:53
  down
• 11:53
  and
• 11:53
  blowing
• 11:53
  a
• 11:54
  whistle
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  determining
• 11:55
  whether
• 11:55
  that
• 11:55
  was
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  first
• 11:55
  down
• 11:56
  or,
• 11:56
  or
• 11:57
  a
• 11:57
  touchdown.
• 11:57
  But
• 11:58
  he
• 11:58
  was
• 11:58
  the,
• 11:58
  he
• 11:59
  was
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  premier
• 11:59
  official
• 12:00
  and
• 12:01
  officiated
• 12:01
  games
• 12:02
  all
• 12:02
  over
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  country.
• 12:03
  He
• 12:03
  officiated,
• 12:03
  I
• 12:04
  believe
• 12:04
  it
• 12:04
  was
• 12:04
  five
• 12:04
  Rose
• 12:05
  Bowls
• 12:06
  he
• 12:07
  was
• 12:07
  in.
• 12:07
  He
• 12:07
  went
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  every
• 12:08
  region.
• 12:08
  He
• 12:09
  officiated
• 12:09
  games
• 12:10
  down
• 12:10
  south,
• 12:10
  you
• 12:11
  know,
• 12:11
  primarily
• 12:11
  in
• 12:12
  the
• 12:12
  Midwest.
• 12:12
  But
• 12:13
  he,
• 12:13
  he
• 12:13
  went
• 12:14
  wherever
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  action
• 12:15
  was.
• 12:15
  And
• 12:15
  he,
• 12:16
  he
• 12:16
  loved
• 12:16
  a
• 12:17
  good
• 12:17
  game.
• 12:17
  He
• 12:17
  loved
• 12:18
  a
• 12:18
  big
• 12:19
  game.
• 12:19
  He
• 12:19
  loved
• 12:19
  a
• 12:20
  good
• 12:20
  intersectional
• 12:21
  contest.
• 12:21
  He
• 12:21
  was,
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  was
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  really
• 12:23
  important
• 12:23
  part
• 12:24
  of
• 12:24
  who
• 12:24
  Ecky
• 12:25
  was
• 12:25
  as,
• 12:26
  as
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  sportsman.
• 12:27
  He
• 12:28
  really
• 12:28
  wanted
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  stay
• 12:29
  in
• 12:29
  the
• 12:29
  game.
• 12:29
  So
• 12:30
  he,
• 12:30
  officiating
• 12:32
  as
• 12:32
  well
• 12:32
  as
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  sports
• 12:33
  writing
• 12:33
  was,
• 12:34
  uh,
• 12:34
  was
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  way
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  he
• 12:35
  could
• 12:35
  stay
• 12:35
  involved.
• 12:36
  Yeah,
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  mean,
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  just
• 12:37
  find
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  amazing.
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  a
• 12:39
  high
• 12:39
  school
• 12:39
  football
• 12:40
  official
• 12:40
  for
• 12:40
  27
• 12:41
  years
• 12:41
  and
• 12:42
  after
• 12:42
  getting
• 12:42
  done
• 12:42
  with
• 12:42
  the
• 12:43
  game,
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  don't
• 12:43
  know
• 12:43
  that
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  could
• 12:44
  write
• 12:44
  about
• 12:44
  it
• 12:44
  because
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  really
• 12:45
  didn't
• 12:46
  know
• 12:46
  what
• 12:46
  was
• 12:46
  going
• 12:47
  on
• 12:47
  other
• 12:47
  than,
• 12:47
  you
• 12:48
  know,
• 12:48
  when
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  was
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  referee,
• 12:49
  I'm
• 12:49
  watching
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  quarterback
• 12:50
  every
• 12:50
  play
• 12:51
  and
• 12:51
  interior
• 12:51
  lineman
• 12:52
  and
• 12:52
  you
• 12:53
  know,
• 12:53
  signal
• 12:53
  a
• 12:54
  penalty,
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  press
• 12:54
  box.
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  don't
• 12:55
  know
• 12:55
  really
• 12:55
  what's
• 12:56
  going
• 12:56
  on
• 12:56
  the
• 12:56
  rest
• 12:56
  of
• 12:56
  the
• 12:57
  time
• 12:57
  except,
• 12:58
  you
• 12:58
  know,
• 12:58
  final
• 12:58
  score.
• 12:59
  So
• 12:59
  I
• 12:59
  don't
• 13:00
  know
• 13:00
  how
• 13:00
  he
• 13:00
  did
• 13:00
  it,
• 13:00
  but
• 13:01
  that's
• 13:01
  pretty
• 13:01
  amazing
• 13:02
  feat
• 13:02
  right
• 13:02
  there.
• 13:05
  Yeah,
• 13:05
  I
• 13:06
  think
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  quality
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  his
• 13:07
  journalism
• 13:07
  declines
• 13:08
  in
• 13:08
  games
• 13:08
  that
• 13:09
  he
• 13:09
  officiated.
• 13:09
  To
• 13:10
  be
• 13:10
  honest.
• 13:10
  He
• 13:10
  might,
• 13:11
  he
• 13:11
  might
• 13:11
  notice
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  couple,
• 13:12
  he
• 13:12
  might
• 13:12
  take
• 13:13
  note
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  couple
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  big
• 13:14
  plays.
• 13:14
  Oh,
• 13:14
  Red
• 13:15
  Grange
• 13:15
  hit
• 13:15
  a
• 13:16
  40
• 13:16
  yard
• 13:16
  touchdown
• 13:17
  run.
• 13:17
  But
• 13:17
  the
• 13:18
  rest
• 13:18
  of
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  description
• 13:19
  is
• 13:19
  pretty
• 13:19
  generic
• 13:20
  because
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  was
• 13:20
  about
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  best
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  he
• 13:21
  could
• 13:21
  do
• 13:21
  when
• 13:21
  he
• 13:21
  was,
• 13:22
  when
• 13:22
  he
• 13:23
  was
• 13:23
  calling
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  proverbial
• 13:24
  balls
• 13:25
  and
• 13:25
  strikes
• 13:25
  at
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  time,
• 13:26
  you
• 13:26
  know,
• 13:26
  calling
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  first
• 13:26
  downs
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  spotting
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  football
• 13:28
  and.
• 13:29
  And
• 13:29
  calling
• 13:30
  penalties
• 13:30
  and
• 13:30
  things
• 13:31
  like
• 13:31
  that.
• 13:31
  So.
• 13:31
  So
• 13:32
  kind
• 13:32
  of
• 13:32
  by
• 13:32
  necessity,
• 13:33
  it
• 13:33
  had
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  be
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  little
• 13:34
  bit
• 13:34
  generic,
• 13:35
  but.
• 13:35
  But
• 13:35
  the
• 13:36
  people
• 13:36
  still
• 13:36
  read
• 13:36
  it.
• 13:36
  The
• 13:36
  people
• 13:37
  still
• 13:37
  loved
• 13:37
  it.
• 13:37
  They.
• 13:38
  And.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:39
  he
• 13:40
  talked
• 13:41
  later
• 13:41
  on
• 13:41
  in
• 13:41
  his
• 13:41
  career.
• 13:42
  He
• 13:42
  talked
• 13:42
  about
• 13:43
  how
• 13:43
  being
• 13:44
  an
• 13:44
  official
• 13:44
  just
• 13:45
  made
• 13:45
  him
• 13:46
  a
• 13:46
  better
• 13:46
  writer
• 13:47
  because
• 13:47
  he
• 13:47
  was
• 13:48
  more
• 13:48
  in
• 13:48
  tune
• 13:48
  with
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  game.
• 13:50
  Whether
• 13:50
  that
• 13:50
  was
• 13:50
  accurate
• 13:51
  or
• 13:51
  not
• 13:52
  kind
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  isn't
• 13:52
  important.
• 13:53
  That
• 13:54
  was
• 13:54
  his
• 13:54
  take
• 13:54
  on
• 13:54
  it.
• 13:54
  It
• 13:55
  was.
• 13:55
  It
• 13:55
  was
• 13:56
  his
• 13:56
  way
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  staying
• 13:56
  involved,
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  staying
• 13:58
  really
• 13:58
  right
• 13:59
  in
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  middle
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  action,
• 14:00
  which.
• 14:01
  That
• 14:01
  was
• 14:01
  kind
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  a
• 14:02
  unique
• 14:02
  perspective
• 14:02
  that
• 14:03
  he
• 14:03
  had
• 14:03
  as
• 14:03
  a
• 14:03
  writer
• 14:03
  compared
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  some
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  other
• 14:04
  folks
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  were
• 14:05
  writing
• 14:05
  about
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  same
• 14:06
  games.
• 14:07
  Yeah,
• 14:08
  imagine.
• 14:08
  I'm
• 14:09
  not
• 14:09
  sure
• 14:09
  if
• 14:09
  he
• 14:09
  ever
• 14:09
  did
• 14:10
  it,
• 14:10
  but
• 14:10
  just
• 14:10
  getting
• 14:10
  some
• 14:11
  of
• 14:11
  the
• 14:11
  coaches
• 14:12
  speak
• 14:12
  or
• 14:12
  players
• 14:12
  speak,
• 14:13
  you
• 14:13
  know,
• 14:13
  Red
• 14:14
  Grange
• 14:14
  has
• 14:14
  a
• 14:14
  big
• 14:14
  run
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  comes
• 14:15
  back
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  the
• 14:16
  huddle.
• 14:16
  He
• 14:16
  has
• 14:16
  the
• 14:17
  opportunity
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  say,
• 14:17
  hey,
• 14:18
  Red,
• 14:18
  what'd
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  think
• 14:18
  about
• 14:18
  that
• 14:19
  run?
• 14:19
  You
• 14:19
  know,
• 14:19
  and
• 14:19
  maybe
• 14:20
  he
• 14:20
  could,
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  know,
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  doubt
• 14:21
  he
• 14:21
  did
• 14:21
  it,
• 14:21
  but
• 14:22
  just
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  inside
• 14:23
  information
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  would
• 14:24
  have
• 14:25
  being,
• 14:25
  you
• 14:25
  know,
• 14:25
  in
• 14:26
  between
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  lines
• 14:26
  as
• 14:27
  things
• 14:27
  are
• 14:27
  going
• 14:27
  on,
• 14:28
  that's
• 14:28
  kind
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  a
• 14:29
  cool
• 14:29
  aspect
• 14:29
  which
• 14:30
  would
• 14:30
  never
• 14:30
  go
• 14:30
  over
• 14:31
  today.
• 14:31
  You
• 14:31
  know,
• 14:31
  you
• 14:32
  would
• 14:32
  be
• 14:32
  called
• 14:32
  a
• 14:33
  homer
• 14:33
  and
• 14:33
  probably
• 14:33
  chased
• 14:34
  out
• 14:34
  of
• 14:34
  every
• 14:34
  stadium
• 14:35
  you
• 14:35
  would
• 14:35
  go
• 14:36
  into
• 14:36
  after
• 14:37
  you
• 14:37
  wrote
• 14:37
  something.
• 14:37
  But
• 14:38
  interesting
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  way
• 14:40
  football
• 14:40
  was
• 14:41
  back
• 14:41
  then
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  how
• 14:42
  people
• 14:43
  like
• 14:43
  Eckersol
• 14:43
  were
• 14:44
  able
• 14:44
  to.
• 14:45
  To,
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  know,
• 14:45
  pull
• 14:46
  double
• 14:46
  duty
• 14:46
  at
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  football
• 14:47
  game
• 14:47
  and,
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  know,
• 14:48
  wearing
• 14:48
  two
• 14:48
  hats.
• 14:49
  So
• 14:49
  kind
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  neat.
• 14:52
  Definitely,
• 14:53
  definitely.
• 14:53
  And.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:54
  yeah,
• 14:54
  something
• 14:54
  that
• 14:54
  definitely
• 14:55
  wouldn't
• 14:55
  stand
• 14:55
  today
• 14:56
  either,
• 14:56
  but
• 14:57
  definitely
• 14:57
  a.
• 14:58
  Definitely
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  sign
• 14:58
  of
• 14:59
  its
• 14:59
  times.
• 15:00
  Yeah,
• 15:00
  well,
• 15:01
  you
• 15:01
  alluded
• 15:02
  to
• 15:02
  it
• 15:02
  earlier.
• 15:02
  You
• 15:03
  know,
• 15:03
  he
• 15:03
  played
• 15:04
  in
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  era
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  when
• 15:05
  the
• 15:06
  forward
• 15:06
  pass
• 15:06
  was
• 15:07
  coming
• 15:07
  in.
• 15:07
  You
• 15:07
  know,
• 15:08
  most
• 15:08
  of
• 15:08
  his
• 15:09
  playing
• 15:09
  career
• 15:10
  was
• 15:10
  during
• 15:10
  that
• 15:10
  brutal
• 15:11
  time
• 15:11
  where,
• 15:12
  you
• 15:12
  know,
• 15:12
  there
• 15:13
  was
• 15:13
  reports
• 15:13
  of
• 15:14
  deaths
• 15:14
  in
• 15:15
  football
• 15:15
  and
• 15:16
  severe
• 15:16
  injuries
• 15:17
  and
• 15:17
  Teddy
• 15:18
  Roosevelt's
• 15:19
  getting
• 15:19
  involved
• 15:19
  and
• 15:20
  football
• 15:20
  committees
• 15:21
  are
• 15:21
  getting
• 15:22
  banned
• 15:23
  up
• 15:23
  and
• 15:23
  stirred
• 15:23
  together.
• 15:24
  What
• 15:24
  did
• 15:25
  that.
• 15:26
  But
• 15:26
  how
• 15:26
  did
• 15:26
  he
• 15:26
  take
• 15:27
  that
• 15:27
  as
• 15:27
  a
• 15:27
  player?
• 15:27
  And
• 15:28
  maybe
• 15:28
  were
• 15:28
  some
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  things
• 15:29
  that
• 15:29
  he
• 15:29
  did
• 15:30
  as
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  player
• 15:31
  both
• 15:31
  before
• 15:31
  and
• 15:32
  after
• 15:32
  that
• 15:33
  maybe
• 15:33
  stood
• 15:34
  out?
• 15:36
  So
• 15:36
  it's
• 15:37
  kind
• 15:37
  of
• 15:37
  funny.
• 15:37
  He
• 15:37
  was
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  little
• 15:38
  guy
• 15:39
  when
• 15:39
  he
• 15:39
  arrived
• 15:40
  at
• 15:40
  University
• 15:40
  of
• 15:40
  Chicago.
• 15:41
  He
• 15:41
  was.
• 15:41
  He
• 15:41
  was
• 15:42
  56
• 15:42
  or
• 15:42
  5
• 15:43
  7.
• 15:43
  I'm
• 15:43
  not
• 15:43
  sure
• 15:43
  his
• 15:44
  exact
• 15:44
  height.
• 15:44
  He
• 15:44
  was
• 15:45
  132.
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  think
• 15:46
  he
• 15:46
  was
• 15:47
  listed
• 15:47
  as.
• 15:47
  As
• 15:47
  a
• 15:48
  freshman.
• 15:49
  And
• 15:49
  by
• 15:49
  the
• 15:50
  time
• 15:50
  he
• 15:50
  was
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  senior,
• 15:50
  he
• 15:51
  had
• 15:51
  bulked
• 15:51
  up.
• 15:51
  He
• 15:52
  was.
• 15:52
  He
• 15:52
  was
• 15:52
  somewhere
• 15:53
  between
• 15:53
  140
• 15:53
  and
• 15:53
  145
• 15:55
  pounds.
• 15:55
  So
• 15:56
  he
• 15:56
  was
• 15:56
  usually
• 15:56
  the
• 15:57
  smallest
• 15:57
  guy
• 15:57
  on
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  field.
• 15:58
  He
• 15:59
  never
• 15:59
  wore
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  helmet.
• 16:00
  He,
• 16:01
  you
• 16:01
  look
• 16:01
  at
• 16:01
  some
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  these
• 16:02
  helmets
• 16:03
  were
• 16:03
  fairly
• 16:04
  common
• 16:04
  at
• 16:04
  the
• 16:05
  time.
• 16:05
  But
• 16:05
  you
• 16:06
  can
• 16:06
  pick
• 16:06
  out
• 16:06
  e
• 16:06
  in
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  lot
• 16:07
  of
• 16:07
  these,
• 16:07
  in
• 16:08
  a
• 16:08
  lot
• 16:08
  of
• 16:08
  these
• 16:08
  pictures
• 16:09
  of
• 16:10
  game
• 16:10
  action.
• 16:10
  It's
• 16:10
  like,
• 16:11
  oh,
• 16:11
  there's
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  bareheaded
• 16:12
  guy.
• 16:12
  He,
• 16:12
  he,
• 16:13
  he
• 16:13
  didn't
• 16:13
  like
• 16:13
  it.
• 16:14
  He
• 16:14
  thought
• 16:14
  that
• 16:14
  it
• 16:14
  held
• 16:15
  back
• 16:15
  his
• 16:15
  style.
• 16:16
  He
• 16:18
  had
• 16:18
  no
• 16:19
  problem
• 16:19
  mixing
• 16:19
  it
• 16:19
  up.
• 16:20
  Now
• 16:20
  he
• 16:20
  was,
• 16:20
  you
• 16:21
  know,
• 16:21
  he
• 16:21
  was,
• 16:21
  he
• 16:21
  was
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  quarterback,
• 16:22
  but
• 16:23
  as
• 16:23
  we
• 16:23
  know,
• 16:23
  the
• 16:24
  quarterback
• 16:24
  was,
• 16:25
  was
• 16:26
  not
• 16:26
  the
• 16:26
  way
• 16:27
  we
• 16:27
  think
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  a
• 16:27
  quarterback
• 16:27
  today,
• 16:28
  dropping
• 16:28
  back
• 16:28
  and
• 16:29
  passing
• 16:29
  until
• 16:29
  his
• 16:30
  senior
• 16:30
  year
• 16:30
  anyway.
• 16:31
  But
• 16:31
  he
• 16:31
  was
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  guy
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  was
• 16:32
  calling
• 16:32
  the
• 16:33
  plays
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  was
• 16:34
  determining
• 16:34
  is
• 16:34
  this
• 16:35
  going
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  be
• 16:35
  inside
• 16:36
  run,
• 16:36
  outside
• 16:36
  run,
• 16:37
  is
• 16:37
  it
• 16:37
  going
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  be,
• 16:39
  are
• 16:40
  there
• 16:40
  going
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  be
• 16:40
  laterals
• 16:41
  involved,
• 16:41
  all
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  stuff.
• 16:43
  And
• 16:43
  he
• 16:43
  had
• 16:44
  no
• 16:44
  problem
• 16:44
  mixing
• 16:45
  it
• 16:45
  up.
• 16:45
  Like
• 16:45
  running
• 16:46
  right
• 16:46
  into
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  middle
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  a
• 16:47
  crowd,
• 16:47
  taking
• 16:47
  a
• 16:48
  hard
• 16:48
  hit,
• 16:48
  bouncing
• 16:49
  right
• 16:49
  off
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  it,
• 16:50
  and
• 16:50
  then
• 16:50
  scooting
• 16:51
  for
• 16:51
  another
• 16:51
  10
• 16:51
  yards
• 16:52
  or
• 16:52
  whatever
• 16:52
  the,
• 16:52
  whatever
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  case
• 16:53
  might
• 16:53
  be.
• 16:54
  And
• 16:54
  that's
• 16:54
  back
• 16:54
  in
• 16:54
  the,
• 16:54
  the
• 16:55
  three
• 16:55
  downs
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  make
• 16:56
  5
• 16:56
  yards
• 16:56
  era.
• 16:56
  You
• 16:57
  didn't,
• 16:57
  you
• 16:57
  didn't
• 16:57
  need
• 16:57
  10
• 16:58
  yards
• 16:58
  for
• 16:58
  first
• 16:58
  down,
• 16:59
  but
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  also
• 17:00
  only
• 17:00
  had
• 17:00
  three
• 17:00
  downs.
• 17:00
  He
• 17:00
  didn't
• 17:01
  have
• 17:01
  four
• 17:01
  downs.
• 17:02
  On
• 17:02
  defense,
• 17:03
  he
• 17:03
  was
• 17:03
  always,
• 17:04
  or
• 17:04
  almost
• 17:05
  always
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  safety
• 17:05
  man.
• 17:06
  He
• 17:06
  was
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  guy
• 17:06
  that
• 17:06
  played
• 17:07
  deep
• 17:07
  back
• 17:08
  on
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  field,
• 17:08
  and
• 17:09
  if
• 17:09
  someone
• 17:09
  broke
• 17:09
  into
• 17:09
  the
• 17:10
  open,
• 17:10
  he
• 17:11
  would
• 17:11
  have
• 17:11
  to
• 17:11
  go
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  make
• 17:12
  that
• 17:12
  open
• 17:12
  field
• 17:12
  tackle.
• 17:13
  And
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  lot
• 17:14
  of
• 17:14
  players,
• 17:14
  a
• 17:14
  lot
• 17:14
  of
• 17:15
  his
• 17:15
  contemporaries
• 17:16
  said
• 17:16
  that
• 17:16
  he
• 17:16
  was,
• 17:17
  they
• 17:17
  were
• 17:17
  surprised
• 17:18
  at
• 17:18
  how
• 17:18
  hard
• 17:18
  he
• 17:19
  could
• 17:19
  hit.
• 17:19
  This
• 17:19
  guy
• 17:20
  that,
• 17:20
  you
• 17:20
  know,
• 17:20
  weighs
• 17:21
  140
• 17:21
  pounds,
• 17:21
  he
• 17:22
  was
• 17:22
  140
• 17:22
  pounds
• 17:23
  with
• 17:23
  blazing
• 17:23
  speed,
• 17:24
  almost,
• 17:24
  you
• 17:25
  know,
• 17:25
  just
• 17:25
  shy
• 17:26
  of
• 17:26
  Olympic
• 17:26
  caliber
• 17:27
  speed.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:28
  he,
• 17:29
  he
• 17:30
  was,
• 17:30
  he
• 17:31
  was
• 17:31
  definitely
• 17:31
  a
• 17:32
  throwback,
• 17:32
  definitely
• 17:32
  an
• 17:33
  old
• 17:33
  school
• 17:33
  type
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  football
• 17:34
  player.
• 17:34
  And,
• 17:34
  and
• 17:35
  not
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  guy
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  would
• 17:36
  expect
• 17:36
  too.
• 17:36
  You
• 17:36
  look
• 17:36
  at
• 17:37
  him,
• 17:37
  what's
• 17:38
  this
• 17:38
  guy
• 17:38
  going
• 17:38
  to
• 17:38
  do?
• 17:38
  He
• 17:38
  only,
• 17:38
  he's,
• 17:39
  he's,
• 17:39
  he's
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  little
• 17:40
  guy,
• 17:40
  he's
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  shrimp,
• 17:41
  but
• 17:41
  he,
• 17:42
  he
• 17:43
  could
• 17:43
  dish
• 17:43
  it
• 17:43
  out
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  he
• 17:44
  could
• 17:44
  take
• 17:44
  it.
• 17:45
  Yeah.
• 17:46
  Interesting.
• 17:47
  Now
• 17:47
  he,
• 17:47
  you
• 17:47
  know,
• 17:48
  as
• 17:48
  you
• 17:48
  alluded
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  too,
• 17:48
  you,
• 17:49
  he
• 17:49
  played
• 17:49
  for
• 17:49
  one
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  most
• 17:50
  famous
• 17:51
  college
• 17:51
  football
• 17:52
  coaches
• 17:52
  of
• 17:52
  all
• 17:53
  time,
• 17:53
  a
• 17:53
  great
• 17:53
  innovator,
• 17:54
  somebody
• 17:55
  that
• 17:55
  I,
• 17:55
  I've,
• 17:56
  you
• 17:56
  know,
• 17:56
  put
• 17:56
  up
• 17:56
  on
• 17:57
  that
• 17:57
  Mount
• 17:57
  Rushmore
• 17:58
  of
• 17:58
  football
• 17:59
  innovators,
• 17:59
  you
• 18:00
  know,
• 18:00
  Amos
• 18:00
  Alonzo
• 18:01
  Stag.
• 18:01
  What,
• 18:01
  what
• 18:02
  was
• 18:02
  Ecker's
• 18:02
  relationship
• 18:03
  with
• 18:03
  Coach
• 18:03
  Stag?
• 18:06
  So
• 18:07
  they
• 18:07
  were
• 18:08
  very,
• 18:08
  very
• 18:09
  close.
• 18:09
  It
• 18:10
  was
• 18:10
  there,
• 18:10
  there
• 18:10
  was
• 18:10
  a,
• 18:11
  definitely
• 18:11
  a
• 18:11
  mentorship
• 18:12
  involved,
• 18:12
  almost
• 18:13
  a
• 18:14
  type
• 18:14
  of
• 18:15
  thing.
• 18:15
  Stag
• 18:17
  had
• 18:17
  been
• 18:17
  at
• 18:17
  University
• 18:18
  of
• 18:18
  Chicago
• 18:19
  for.
• 18:19
  He,
• 18:19
  he
• 18:20
  was
• 18:20
  the.
• 18:20
  He
• 18:20
  was
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  founding
• 18:21
  coach,
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  founding
• 18:21
  athletic
• 18:22
  director
• 18:22
  there.
• 18:22
  So
• 18:23
  he
• 18:23
  had
• 18:23
  arrived
• 18:23
  there
• 18:23
  in
• 18:23
  1892,
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  Eckersol
• 18:26
  started
• 18:27
  high
• 18:27
  school
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  1899.
• 18:28
  He
• 18:28
  was
• 18:29
  a.
• 18:29
  He
• 18:29
  was
• 18:29
  a
• 18:30
  JV
• 18:31
  player
• 18:31
  as
• 18:31
  a
• 18:31
  freshman,
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  then
• 18:32
  he
• 18:32
  was
• 18:32
  varsity
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  rest
• 18:33
  of
• 18:33
  his
• 18:33
  time
• 18:33
  there.
• 18:34
  And
• 18:34
  Stagg
• 18:35
  was
• 18:35
  coaching
• 18:35
  at
• 18:35
  U
• 18:36
  of
• 18:36
  C.
• 18:36
  Just
• 18:36
  a
• 18:36
  mile
• 18:37
  away.
• 18:37
  And
• 18:38
  he
• 18:38
  would
• 18:38
  often
• 18:39
  help
• 18:39
  out
• 18:40
  at
• 18:40
  university.
• 18:41
  I'm
• 18:42
  sorry,
• 18:42
  at.
• 18:42
  At
• 18:43
  High
• 18:43
  park
• 18:43
  high
• 18:43
  schools,
• 18:44
  football
• 18:45
  practices.
• 18:46
  He
• 18:46
  would
• 18:46
  loan
• 18:47
  them
• 18:47
  their
• 18:47
  facilities.
• 18:48
  Hey,
• 18:48
  come
• 18:48
  on,
• 18:49
  guys,
• 18:49
  come
• 18:50
  use
• 18:50
  our
• 18:50
  gym.
• 18:50
  Come
• 18:51
  use
• 18:51
  our
• 18:51
  football
• 18:51
  field.
• 18:52
  Host
• 18:52
  your
• 18:52
  games
• 18:52
  at
• 18:52
  our
• 18:53
  football
• 18:53
  field.
• 18:53
  So
• 18:54
  there
• 18:54
  was.
• 18:54
  He
• 18:55
  definitely
• 18:55
  got
• 18:55
  his.
• 18:55
  Got
• 18:56
  his
• 18:56
  hooks
• 18:56
  into
• 18:56
  Eckersol
• 18:57
  early
• 18:57
  and,
• 18:58
  and
• 18:58
  often,
• 18:59
  but
• 18:59
  they
• 18:59
  were
• 18:59
  extremely,
• 19:00
  extremely
• 19:01
  close.
• 19:02
  There
• 19:02
  was.
• 19:04
  There
• 19:05
  was
• 19:05
  a
• 19:05
  lot
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  mentorship
• 19:06
  involved
• 19:06
  there.
• 19:07
  Uh,
• 19:07
  Eckersol
• 19:08
  was,
• 19:08
  uh.
• 19:09
  He
• 19:09
  was
• 19:09
  kind
• 19:09
  of
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  controversial
• 19:10
  figure.
• 19:11
  He
• 19:11
  was.
• 19:11
  He
• 19:12
  was
• 19:12
  very
• 19:12
  quietly.
• 19:13
  Just
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  couple
• 19:13
  weeks
• 19:14
  after
• 19:14
  his,
• 19:14
  uh,
• 19:15
  senior
• 19:15
  season
• 19:16
  ended,
• 19:16
  maybe
• 19:17
  six
• 19:17
  weeks
• 19:17
  after
• 19:17
  senior.
• 19:18
  Senior
• 19:18
  season
• 19:18
  ended,
• 19:19
  he
• 19:19
  was
• 19:19
  very
• 19:20
  quietly
• 19:20
  expelled
• 19:21
  from
• 19:21
  University
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  Chicago.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  on
• 19:23
  what
• 19:24
  the.
• 19:24
  What
• 19:24
  the
• 19:25
  official
• 19:25
  documents
• 19:25
  say
• 19:25
  were
• 19:26
  loose
• 19:26
  morals,
• 19:27
  and
• 19:27
  they
• 19:27
  don't
• 19:27
  say
• 19:28
  much
• 19:28
  more
• 19:28
  about
• 19:28
  that,
• 19:29
  but
• 19:29
  he
• 19:29
  had
• 19:29
  been.
• 19:29
  He
• 19:30
  had
• 19:30
  been
• 19:30
  caught
• 19:30
  committing
• 19:31
  a
• 19:31
  theft.
• 19:31
  He
• 19:31
  had
• 19:32
  been
• 19:32
  caught
• 19:32
  stealing,
• 19:32
  arrested.
• 19:33
  He
• 19:33
  made
• 19:34
  restitution.
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  think
• 19:35
  he
• 19:35
  borrowed
• 19:35
  some
• 19:35
  money
• 19:35
  from
• 19:36
  his
• 19:36
  fraternity
• 19:37
  brothers
• 19:37
  to.
• 19:37
  To
• 19:38
  pay
• 19:38
  back
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  theft.
• 19:38
  He
• 19:39
  had.
• 19:39
  He
• 19:39
  had
• 19:39
  stolen
• 19:39
  a
• 19:40
  suit
• 19:40
  from.
• 19:41
  From
• 19:41
  a
• 19:41
  tailor.
• 19:42
  So
• 19:43
  University
• 19:43
  of
• 19:43
  Chicago.
• 19:45
  He
• 19:45
  had
• 19:45
  no
• 19:45
  more
• 19:45
  PR
• 19:46
  value
• 19:46
  to
• 19:46
  the
• 19:47
  university.
• 19:47
  So
• 19:47
  they
• 19:47
  kind
• 19:48
  of.
• 19:48
  They
• 19:48
  kind
• 19:48
  of
• 19:48
  quietly
• 19:49
  expelled
• 19:49
  him
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  kind
• 19:50
  of
• 19:50
  buried
• 19:51
  the
• 19:51
  evidence
• 19:51
  for.
• 19:52
  For
• 19:52
  decades.
• 19:53
  Researcher
• 19:54
  named
• 19:54
  Robin
• 19:55
  Lester
• 19:55
  was
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  guy
• 19:55
  who
• 19:56
  discovered
• 19:56
  this
• 19:56
  back
• 19:56
  in
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  1990s.
• 19:57
  And
• 19:57
  he
• 19:58
  was.
• 19:58
  He
• 19:59
  was
• 19:59
  combing
• 19:59
  through
• 20:00
  some
• 20:00
  old
• 20:00
  records.
• 20:00
  I
• 20:01
  think
• 20:01
  he
• 20:01
  was
• 20:01
  actually.
• 20:03
  He
• 20:03
  was
• 20:04
  actually
• 20:04
  the
• 20:04
  guy
• 20:04
  that
• 20:05
  organized
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  Stag
• 20:07
  papers
• 20:07
  and
• 20:07
  kind
• 20:07
  of
• 20:08
  kind
• 20:08
  of
• 20:08
  discovered
• 20:09
  some
• 20:09
  of
• 20:09
  this
• 20:09
  stuff.
• 20:10
  Hey,
• 20:10
  wait
• 20:10
  a
• 20:10
  second.
• 20:10
  This
• 20:11
  was.
• 20:11
  This
• 20:11
  Stag
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  not
• 20:12
  the.
• 20:13
  The
• 20:14
  whole.
• 20:14
  Some,
• 20:14
  you
• 20:15
  know,
• 20:15
  parag
• 20:16
  of
• 20:16
  pure
• 20:17
  athletics
• 20:17
  that
• 20:17
  we
• 20:18
  thought
• 20:18
  because
• 20:18
  he
• 20:19
  did
• 20:19
  whatever
• 20:19
  he
• 20:19
  could
• 20:19
  to
• 20:20
  keep
• 20:20
  Eckersal
• 20:20
  eligible.
• 20:21
  But
• 20:21
  the
• 20:22
  university
• 20:23
  was
• 20:23
  complicit.
• 20:24
  And
• 20:24
  then.
• 20:25
  And
• 20:25
  then
• 20:25
  Ecky.
• 20:26
  Ecky
• 20:26
  got
• 20:27
  expelled.
• 20:27
  And.
• 20:27
  And,
• 20:28
  But.
• 20:28
  But
• 20:28
  Stag
• 20:29
  and
• 20:29
  Eckersol
• 20:30
  remained
• 20:30
  close
• 20:31
  after
• 20:31
  that,
• 20:31
  even
• 20:32
  though.
• 20:32
  Even
• 20:32
  if
• 20:32
  the
• 20:33
  university
• 20:33
  officials
• 20:34
  didn't
• 20:34
  really
• 20:35
  care
• 20:35
  for
• 20:35
  that.
• 20:35
  They
• 20:35
  didn't
• 20:36
  want
• 20:36
  Ecky
• 20:36
  hanging
• 20:36
  around
• 20:37
  campus.
• 20:37
  But
• 20:37
  he
• 20:38
  was
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  sports
• 20:38
  writer,
• 20:39
  so
• 20:39
  he
• 20:39
  had
• 20:39
  access
• 20:39
  to
• 20:40
  campus.
• 20:41
  He
• 20:41
  was.
• 20:42
  He
• 20:42
  would.
• 20:42
  He
• 20:43
  would.
• 20:43
  Occasionally.
• 20:44
  There
• 20:44
  was.
• 20:45
  I
• 20:45
  think
• 20:45
  it
• 20:46
  was
• 20:46
  1908.
• 20:47
  He.
• 20:47
  He
• 20:48
  rounded
• 20:48
  up
• 20:48
  some
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  his
• 20:49
  1905
• 20:49
  teammates,
• 20:50
  and
• 20:50
  they
• 20:50
  challenged
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  1908
• 20:52
  team,
• 20:52
  which
• 20:53
  was
• 20:53
  an
• 20:53
  undefeated
• 20:54
  Big
• 20:54
  Ten
• 20:54
  champion,
• 20:54
  or
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  guess
• 20:55
  it
• 20:55
  was
• 20:55
  Big
• 20:55
  Eight
• 20:56
  at
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  time.
• 20:57
  Champion
• 20:58
  Challenged
• 20:58
  them
• 20:58
  to
• 20:59
  a
• 20:59
  scrimmage.
• 20:59
  And
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  believe
• 21:00
  they
• 21:00
  may
• 21:01
  have
• 21:01
  won
• 21:01
  that
• 21:01
  scrimmage.
• 21:01
  That
• 21:02
  Ecky
• 21:02
  and
• 21:02
  his,
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  his
• 21:03
  buddies
• 21:03
  may
• 21:04
  have
• 21:04
  won
• 21:04
  that
• 21:04
  scrimmage.
• 21:04
  Whatever
• 21:05
  it
• 21:05
  was.
• 21:05
  They,
• 21:05
  they
• 21:06
  certainly,
• 21:06
  they
• 21:06
  certainly
• 21:07
  didn't
• 21:07
  look
• 21:07
  too
• 21:07
  rusty.
• 21:08
  And
• 21:08
  Stagg
• 21:09
  loved
• 21:09
  it.
• 21:09
  Stagg
• 21:10
  kind
• 21:10
  of
• 21:10
  welcomed
• 21:10
  him
• 21:10
  with
• 21:11
  open
• 21:11
  arms.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:12
  then
• 21:12
  Coach
• 21:12
  Stag
• 21:14
  in
• 21:14
  the,
• 21:15
  I
• 21:15
  think
• 21:15
  it
• 21:15
  was
• 21:15
  1917.
• 21:16
  Eckersol
• 21:17
  had
• 21:17
  a,
• 21:18
  had
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  drinking
• 21:18
  problem
• 21:18
  as,
• 21:19
  as
• 21:19
  a
• 21:20
  young
• 21:20
  adult
• 21:21
  into,
• 21:21
  into,
• 21:22
  into
• 21:22
  his
• 21:23
  middle
• 21:23
  30s,
• 21:23
  I
• 21:24
  guess.
• 21:24
  So
• 21:24
  1917,
• 21:25
  he
• 21:25
  would
• 21:25
  have
• 21:25
  been
• 21:25
  somewhere
• 21:26
  in
• 21:26
  his,
• 21:26
  his
• 21:26
  middle
• 21:27
  30s.
• 21:27
  He,
• 21:27
  he
• 21:28
  collapsed
• 21:28
  in
• 21:28
  his
• 21:29
  Tribune
• 21:29
  office.
• 21:29
  And
• 21:30
  this
• 21:30
  was
• 21:30
  uh,
• 21:31
  this
• 21:31
  was
• 21:32
  attributed
• 21:33
  at
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  time
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  exhaustion,
• 21:34
  but
• 21:34
  Stag
• 21:34
  said
• 21:35
  that
• 21:35
  it
• 21:35
  was
• 21:35
  because
• 21:35
  of
• 21:36
  Eckersol's
• 21:36
  heavy
• 21:37
  drinking
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  uh,
• 21:38
  he
• 21:38
  counseled
• 21:38
  Eckersol
• 21:39
  and
• 21:39
  turning
• 21:39
  over
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  new
• 21:40
  leaf.
• 21:40
  And
• 21:41
  Ecky,
• 21:41
  Ecky
• 21:42
  promised
• 21:42
  him
• 21:43
  and,
• 21:44
  and,
• 21:44
  and
• 21:45
  they
• 21:45
  kind
• 21:45
  of
• 21:45
  had
• 21:46
  this
• 21:46
  fatherly,
• 21:47
  fatherly
• 21:48
  relationship
• 21:49
  where,
• 21:49
  where
• 21:49
  Stan
• 21:50
  could
• 21:50
  give
• 21:50
  Eckersall
• 21:51
  advice
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  Eckersall
• 21:53
  would
• 21:53
  accept
• 21:53
  it
• 21:53
  and
• 21:54
  they,
• 21:55
  they
• 21:55
  would.
• 21:56
  They,
• 21:56
  they
• 21:56
  were,
• 21:57
  they
• 21:57
  were
• 21:57
  extremely
• 21:58
  close
• 21:58
  for
• 21:58
  the,
• 21:59
  for
• 21:59
  the
• 21:59
  rest
• 21:59
  of
• 21:59
  their
• 21:59
  lives.
• 22:00
  There
• 22:00
  was
• 22:00
  friction
• 22:01
  at
• 22:01
  various
• 22:01
  times.
• 22:02
  There
• 22:02
  were,
• 22:02
  was
• 22:02
  a
• 22:02
  story
• 22:03
  of
• 22:03
  an
• 22:03
  unpaid
• 22:03
  debt
• 22:04
  that
• 22:04
  Ecky
• 22:05
  borrowed
• 22:05
  $20
• 22:06
  or
• 22:06
  something.
• 22:07
  I,
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  don't
• 22:07
  know
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  original
• 22:08
  source
• 22:08
  for
• 22:09
  that
• 22:09
  story,
• 22:09
  but
• 22:10
  you
• 22:10
  know
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  there,
• 22:11
  there
• 22:11
  may
• 22:11
  have
• 22:11
  been
• 22:11
  some
• 22:11
  friction
• 22:12
  in
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  relationship,
• 22:13
  but
• 22:13
  all
• 22:13
  the
• 22:15
  RSAL's
• 22:16
  death,
• 22:16
  he
• 22:16
  secured
• 22:17
  Stag
• 22:17
  some
• 22:17
  tickets
• 22:18
  to,
• 22:18
  to
• 22:19
  a
• 22:19
  Rose
• 22:19
  bowl
• 22:19
  game.
• 22:20
  And
• 22:21
  you
• 22:21
  know,
• 22:21
  they
• 22:21
  were,
• 22:21
  they,
• 22:22
  they
• 22:23
  definitely
• 22:23
  had
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  mutual
• 22:24
  affinity
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  affection
• 22:26
  and,
• 22:27
  and
• 22:27
  they
• 22:28
  both
• 22:28
  helped
• 22:28
  each
• 22:28
  other
• 22:28
  to
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  highest
• 22:30
  heights
• 22:30
  of
• 22:31
  greatness.
• 22:31
  So
• 22:31
  it
• 22:31
  was
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  mutually
• 22:32
  beneficial
• 22:33
  relationship
• 22:33
  for
• 22:34
  sure.
• 22:35
  Now
• 22:35
  did,
• 22:35
  did
• 22:36
  Eckersol
• 22:36
  ever
• 22:37
  officiate
• 22:38
  any
• 22:38
  of
• 22:38
  Maroon's
• 22:39
  games
• 22:39
  with,
• 22:40
  with
• 22:40
  Stag
• 22:40
  on
• 22:40
  the
• 22:41
  sidelines.
• 22:43
  So
• 22:44
  the
• 22:45
  standard
• 22:46
  at
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  time,
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  loose
• 22:47
  as
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  standards
• 22:47
  were,
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  standard
• 22:49
  was
• 22:49
  that
• 22:49
  you
• 22:49
  couldn't
• 22:49
  officiate
• 22:50
  games
• 22:50
  involving
• 22:51
  your
• 22:51
  own
• 22:51
  team.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  Eckersol
• 22:53
  abided
• 22:54
  by
• 22:54
  this
• 22:54
  with
• 22:54
  exactly
• 22:55
  one
• 22:55
  exception.
• 22:56
  During
• 22:56
  World
• 22:56
  War
• 22:57
  I,
• 22:58
  University
• 22:58
  of
• 22:58
  Chicago,
• 22:59
  I
• 22:59
  think
• 22:59
  it
• 22:59
  was
• 22:59
  1918,
• 23:00
  played
• 23:00
  a
• 23:01
  junior
• 23:01
  college
• 23:02
  in
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  midweek
• 23:02
  game,
• 23:03
  just
• 23:03
  kind
• 23:03
  of
• 23:03
  a,
• 23:04
  kind
• 23:04
  of
• 23:04
  an
• 23:04
  add
• 23:05
  on
• 23:05
  game.
• 23:05
  And
• 23:05
  Eckersol
• 23:06
  officiated
• 23:07
  that
• 23:07
  one.
• 23:07
  That
• 23:07
  is,
• 23:08
  I
• 23:08
  believe
• 23:08
  that
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  only
• 23:09
  University
• 23:10
  of
• 23:10
  Chicago
• 23:10
  game
• 23:10
  that
• 23:11
  he
• 23:11
  officiated.
• 23:11
  And
• 23:12
  early
• 23:13
  on
• 23:13
  in
• 23:13
  his
• 23:13
  career
• 23:14
  he
• 23:14
  covered
• 23:14
  a
• 23:15
  lot
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  University
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  Chicago
• 23:16
  games
• 23:16
  as
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  sports
• 23:17
  writer
• 23:17
  because
• 23:18
  University
• 23:18
  of
• 23:19
  Chicago
• 23:19
  was
• 23:19
  still
• 23:19
  big
• 23:20
  news.
• 23:20
  They
• 23:20
  won,
• 23:21
  they
• 23:21
  won
• 23:22
  conference
• 23:22
  titles
• 23:22
  in
• 23:23
  1907
• 23:24
  and
• 23:24
  1908.
• 23:25
  They,
• 23:26
  they
• 23:27
  won
• 23:27
  1913.
• 23:28
  They
• 23:29
  won
• 23:29
  conference
• 23:29
  title
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  a
• 23:30
  national
• 23:31
  title.
• 23:32
  They
• 23:32
  won
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  couple
• 23:32
  conference
• 23:33
  titles
• 23:33
  in
• 23:33
  the
• 23:34
  1920s.
• 23:35
  But
• 23:35
  Eckerson
• 23:37
  kind
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  stayed
• 23:38
  away
• 23:39
  from
• 23:39
  covering
• 23:40
  University
• 23:40
  of
• 23:40
  Chicago
• 23:41
  after
• 23:41
  about
• 23:41
  1915,
• 23:42
  1916,
• 23:43
  I
• 23:43
  would
• 23:44
  say,
• 23:44
  because
• 23:45
  he
• 23:46
  was
• 23:46
  in
• 23:46
  such
• 23:46
  high
• 23:46
  demand
• 23:47
  as
• 23:47
  a
• 23:47
  game
• 23:47
  official
• 23:48
  and
• 23:49
  he
• 23:49
  was
• 23:49
  making
• 23:50
  75
• 23:50
  to
• 23:51
  $100
• 23:51
  a
• 23:51
  pop
• 23:52
  to,
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  cover
• 23:53
  these
• 23:53
  games
• 23:54
  which,
• 23:54
  you
• 23:54
  know,
• 23:54
  in,
• 23:54
  in
• 23:55
  1915
• 23:55
  terms
• 23:56
  that
• 23:56
  would
• 23:56
  be,
• 23:56
  you
• 23:56
  know,
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  couple
• 23:57
  thousand
• 23:57
  dollars
• 23:58
  today.
• 23:58
  So
• 23:59
  he,
• 24:00
  he
• 24:00
  didn't
• 24:01
  cover
• 24:01
  many
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  Stag's
• 24:02
  games
• 24:02
  after
• 24:03
  about
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  1915,
• 24:04
  1916
• 24:06
  seasons.
• 24:06
  He,
• 24:07
  he,
• 24:07
  he
• 24:07
  stayed
• 24:08
  away
• 24:08
  from
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  just
• 24:08
  because
• 24:09
  it
• 24:09
  wasn't
• 24:10
  financially
• 24:11
  beneficial
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  him
• 24:12
  for
• 24:12
  that.
• 24:12
  But
• 24:12
  he,
• 24:12
  he
• 24:13
  still
• 24:13
  covered
• 24:13
  practice.
• 24:14
  He
• 24:14
  would
• 24:15
  rely
• 24:15
  on
• 24:15
  Stag
• 24:15
  for
• 24:16
  quotes.
• 24:16
  They,
• 24:17
  they
• 24:17
  maintained
• 24:18
  an
• 24:18
  affinity
• 24:18
  and
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  friendship.
• 24:19
  I,
• 24:19
  I
• 24:20
  think
• 24:20
  Stag
• 24:20
  grumbled
• 24:20
  in
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  letter
• 24:21
  about
• 24:21
  that,
• 24:21
  you
• 24:21
  know,
• 24:22
  oh,
• 24:22
  Ecky's
• 24:22
  giving
• 24:22
  me
• 24:22
  the
• 24:23
  go
• 24:23
  by
• 24:23
  because
• 24:23
  he
• 24:23
  wasn't
• 24:24
  covering
• 24:24
  University
• 24:24
  of
• 24:24
  Chicago
• 24:25
  games
• 24:26
  anymore.
• 24:26
  Certainly
• 24:27
  nowhere
• 24:27
  near
• 24:27
  to
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  extent
• 24:28
  that
• 24:28
  he
• 24:28
  had
• 24:28
  done
• 24:29
  as
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  young
• 24:29
  man
• 24:29
  as
• 24:30
  a
• 24:30
  new
• 24:30
  sports
• 24:30
  writer.
• 24:31
  But,
• 24:31
  but
• 24:31
  there
• 24:32
  were
• 24:32
  multiple
• 24:32
  reasons
• 24:32
  for
• 24:33
  that.
• 24:33
  Uh,
• 24:33
  yeah,
• 24:33
  Chicago
• 24:34
  wasn't
• 24:34
  as
• 24:34
  good
• 24:34
  in
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  1920s
• 24:35
  certainly
• 24:36
  as
• 24:36
  they
• 24:36
  were
• 24:36
  in
• 24:36
  the,
• 24:37
  in
• 24:37
  the,
• 24:37
  in
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  Akrosol
• 24:38
  era
• 24:39
  and,
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  just
• 24:40
  afterwards.
• 24:40
  So
• 24:41
  yeah,
• 24:41
  yeah,
• 24:42
  a
• 24:42
  few
• 24:42
  teams
• 24:42
  were
• 24:43
  that
• 24:43
  were
• 24:43
  good
• 24:43
  at
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  turn
• 24:43
  of
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  century
• 24:44
  back
• 24:45
  in
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  1920s.
• 24:46
  Sort
• 24:46
  of
• 24:46
  a
• 24:46
  whole
• 24:47
  new
• 24:47
  echelon
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  teams
• 24:48
  coming
• 24:49
  up
• 24:49
  that
• 24:49
  were
• 24:50
  sort
• 24:50
  of
• 24:50
  planning
• 24:50
  or
• 24:51
  the
• 24:52
  powers
• 24:52
  that
• 24:52
  were
• 24:54
  earlier.
• 24:54
  So.
• 24:54
  Yeah,
• 24:55
  interesting.
• 24:56
  So
• 24:56
  Chris,
• 24:56
  you
• 24:57
  know,
• 24:57
  we've
• 24:58
  gone
• 24:58
  this
• 24:58
  far
• 24:59
  in
• 24:59
  and
• 24:59
  we
• 24:59
  haven't.
• 24:59
  I
• 24:59
  don't
• 25:00
  believe
• 25:00
  we've
• 25:00
  told
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  full
• 25:01
  title
• 25:01
  of
• 25:01
  your
• 25:01
  book,
• 25:01
  so
• 25:02
  why
• 25:02
  don't
• 25:02
  you
• 25:02
  give
• 25:02
  us
• 25:03
  a
• 25:03
  full
• 25:03
  title
• 25:03
  and
• 25:04
  where
• 25:04
  best
• 25:04
  place
• 25:05
  for
• 25:05
  people
• 25:05
  to
• 25:05
  buy.
• 25:05
  It
• 25:05
  is
• 25:07
  sure
• 25:07
  the,
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  title.
• 25:08
  It's
• 25:09
  EKI
• 25:09
  Walter
• 25:10
  Eckersol
• 25:11
  and
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  Rise
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  Chicago
• 25:12
  Sports.
• 25:13
  It's
• 25:13
  published
• 25:14
  by
• 25:14
  University
• 25:14
  of
• 25:15
  Nebraska
• 25:15
  Press
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  you
• 25:16
  can
• 25:16
  get
• 25:16
  it
• 25:17
  directly
• 25:17
  through
• 25:17
  University
• 25:18
  of
• 25:18
  Nebraska
• 25:19
  Press.
• 25:19
  It's
• 25:19
  also
• 25:19
  available
• 25:20
  Amazon,
• 25:21
  Barnes
• 25:22
  and
• 25:22
  Noble,
• 25:24
  various
• 25:24
  various
• 25:25
  outlets.
• 25:26
  It's
• 25:27
  getting
• 25:27
  some
• 25:28
  guy.
• 25:28
  It's
• 25:29
  there,
• 25:29
  there
• 25:29
  are
• 25:29
  a
• 25:30
  lot
• 25:30
  of,
• 25:30
  a
• 25:30
  lot
• 25:31
  of
• 25:31
  outlets,
• 25:31
  a
• 25:31
  lot
• 25:31
  of
• 25:31
  avenues
• 25:32
  available
• 25:32
  for,
• 25:33
  for,
• 25:33
  for
• 25:33
  purchasing
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  book
• 25:34
  and,
• 25:35
  and
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  highly
• 25:36
  recommend
• 25:36
  it.
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  hope
• 25:36
  that,
• 25:37
  that
• 25:37
  all
• 25:37
  your
• 25:37
  listeners
• 25:38
  buy
• 25:38
  it
• 25:38
  because
• 25:39
  I,
• 25:39
  I
• 25:40
  obviously
• 25:40
  I'm
• 25:40
  biased,
• 25:41
  but
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  think
• 25:41
  he's
• 25:41
  a
• 25:41
  fascinating
• 25:42
  guy.
• 25:43
  Yeah,
• 25:44
  there's
• 25:44
  not
• 25:45
  too
• 25:45
  many
• 25:45
  people
• 25:45
  that
• 25:46
  have
• 25:46
  touched
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  many
• 25:47
  aspects
• 25:48
  of
• 25:48
  the
• 25:48
  game
• 25:48
  of
• 25:48
  football
• 25:49
  at
• 25:49
  that
• 25:49
  period
• 25:50
  of
• 25:50
  time
• 25:50
  when
• 25:51
  it
• 25:51
  was
• 25:51
  such
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  delicate
• 25:53
  thing
• 25:53
  almost
• 25:53
  went
• 25:54
  out
• 25:54
  of
• 25:54
  existence
• 25:55
  during
• 25:55
  his
• 25:55
  playing
• 25:56
  time
• 25:56
  and
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  know,
• 25:57
  fascinating
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  I'm
• 25:58
  glad
• 25:59
  that,
• 25:59
  that
• 25:59
  you've
• 26:00
  preserved
• 26:00
  his
• 26:01
  history
• 26:01
  and
• 26:02
  as
• 26:02
  a
• 26:02
  Chicagoan
• 26:03
  having
• 26:03
  that
• 26:04
  Chicago
• 26:04
  pride
• 26:05
  to
• 26:05
  say,
• 26:05
  hey,
• 26:06
  here's
• 26:06
  one
• 26:06
  of
• 26:06
  our
• 26:06
  guys
• 26:06
  from,
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:07
  over
• 26:07
  100
• 26:08
  years
• 26:08
  ago
• 26:08
  that
• 26:09
  had
• 26:09
  a
• 26:09
  big
• 26:09
  important
• 26:10
  play
• 26:10
  in
• 26:11
  America's
• 26:12
  favorite
• 26:12
  game
• 26:12
  right
• 26:12
  now.
• 26:13
  So
• 26:13
  that's
• 26:14
  pretty
• 26:14
  cool.
• 26:17
  Yeah,
• 26:17
  it
• 26:17
  was
• 26:17
  one
• 26:18
  of
• 26:18
  those
• 26:18
  things
• 26:18
  where
• 26:18
  as
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  got
• 26:19
  deeper
• 26:20
  into
• 26:20
  it,
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  was
• 26:21
  wondering
• 26:21
  how
• 26:22
  come
• 26:22
  nobody's
• 26:22
  told
• 26:22
  this
• 26:23
  story
• 26:23
  before?
• 26:23
  You
• 26:24
  know,
• 26:24
  he
• 26:24
  was,
• 26:24
  he
• 26:24
  was
• 26:25
  Red
• 26:25
  Grange
• 26:25
  before
• 26:25
  Red
• 26:26
  Grange
• 26:26
  existed.
• 26:27
  He
• 26:27
  was,
• 26:27
  he
• 26:28
  was
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  Four
• 26:28
  Horsemen.
• 26:29
  He
• 26:29
  was,
• 26:30
  he
• 26:30
  was
• 26:30
  every
• 26:31
  bit
• 26:31
  of
• 26:32
  some
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  these
• 26:32
  figures
• 26:33
  who
• 26:33
  are
• 26:33
  mythical.
• 26:33
  You
• 26:34
  know,
• 26:34
  Jim
• 26:34
  Thorpe,
• 26:34
  he
• 26:35
  wasn't
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  much
• 26:35
  older
• 26:36
  than
• 26:36
  Jim
• 26:36
  Thorpe.
• 26:36
  And
• 26:36
  Jim
• 26:37
  Thorpe
• 26:37
  said
• 26:38
  dozens
• 26:38
  of
• 26:38
  biographies
• 26:39
  written
• 26:39
  about
• 26:39
  him.
• 26:39
  Red
• 26:40
  Grange,
• 26:40
  Red
• 26:41
  Grange,
• 26:41
  same
• 26:41
  boat.
• 26:42
  Walter
• 26:42
  Eckersol
• 26:43
  had
• 26:43
  exactly
• 26:43
  one
• 26:44
  biography
• 26:44
  written
• 26:45
  about
• 26:45
  him
• 26:45
  prior
• 26:45
  to
• 26:46
  this
• 26:46
  one.
• 26:46
  And
• 26:46
  it
• 26:46
  was
• 26:47
  a,
• 26:47
  it
• 26:47
  was
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  very
• 26:48
  short,
• 26:49
  self
• 26:49
  published,
• 26:50
  really
• 26:50
  amateurish.
• 26:51
  It
• 26:51
  was
• 26:51
  written
• 26:52
  by,
• 26:52
  by
• 26:52
  an
• 26:53
  amateur
• 26:53
  historian
• 26:53
  back
• 26:54
  in
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  1950s.
• 26:54
  It
• 26:55
  was
• 26:55
  about
• 26:55
  40
• 26:55
  pages
• 26:56
  long.
• 26:56
  And
• 26:58
  so
• 26:58
  it
• 26:58
  was.
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  couldn't
• 27:00
  believe
• 27:00
  that
• 27:00
  nobody
• 27:00
  had
• 27:00
  told
• 27:01
  this
• 27:01
  story.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  was
• 27:02
  thrilled
• 27:03
  that
• 27:03
  nobody
• 27:04
  told
• 27:04
  this
• 27:04
  story
• 27:04
  because
• 27:04
  it
• 27:05
  gave
• 27:05
  me
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  great
• 27:05
  opportunity
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  tell.
• 27:06
  Tell
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  story
• 27:07
  about
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  forgotten
• 27:08
  hero
• 27:09
  who
• 27:09
  hopefully
• 27:09
  now
• 27:10
  that
• 27:10
  now
• 27:10
  that
• 27:10
  EKI
• 27:11
  is
• 27:11
  on
• 27:11
  the
• 27:11
  record,
• 27:11
  won't
• 27:12
  be
• 27:12
  forgotten
• 27:12
  any
• 27:12
  longer.
• 27:14
  Yeah,
• 27:14
  it's
• 27:15
  thanks
• 27:15
  to
• 27:16
  people
• 27:16
  like
• 27:16
  you
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  are
• 27:17
  picking
• 27:17
  up
• 27:18
  these
• 27:18
  stories
• 27:18
  on
• 27:19
  these
• 27:19
  forgotten
• 27:19
  people,
• 27:20
  making
• 27:21
  them
• 27:21
  relevant
• 27:21
  again,
• 27:22
  showing
• 27:22
  their
• 27:23
  importance
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  football
• 27:24
  history
• 27:24
  or
• 27:25
  any
• 27:25
  sport
• 27:25
  that,
• 27:26
  you
• 27:26
  know,
• 27:26
  they've
• 27:26
  participated
• 27:27
  in
• 27:28
  and,
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  know,
• 27:29
  great
• 27:29
  for
• 27:29
  preservation
• 27:30
  of
• 27:30
  history.
• 27:30
  And
• 27:31
  we
• 27:31
  thank
• 27:31
  you
• 27:31
  for
• 27:32
  doing
• 27:32
  that
• 27:32
  and
• 27:32
  we
• 27:33
  thank
• 27:33
  you
• 27:33
  for
• 27:33
  joining
• 27:33
  us
• 27:34
  here
• 27:34
  today
• 27:34
  to
• 27:35
  share
• 27:35
  it
• 27:35
  with
• 27:35
  us.
• 27:36
  And
• 27:36
  again,
• 27:36
  once
• 27:37
  again,
• 27:37
  why
• 27:37
  don't
• 27:37
  you
• 27:37
  give
• 27:37
  the
• 27:38
  title
• 27:38
  of
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  book
• 27:39
  and
• 27:39
  as
• 27:40
  we
• 27:40
  let
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  go.
• 27:41
  Sure.
• 27:42
  Once
• 27:43
  again,
• 27:43
  it's
• 27:43
  Ecky,
• 27:44
  Walter
• 27:44
  Eckersol
• 27:45
  and
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  Rise
• 27:45
  of
• 27:45
  Chicago
• 27:46
  Sports.
• 27:47
  My
• 27:47
  magnum
• 27:48
  opus
• 27:48
  so
• 27:48
  far.
• 27:49
  We'll
• 27:49
  see
• 27:49
  what's
• 27:49
  next.
• 27:51
  All
• 27:51
  right,
• 27:51
  Chris,
• 27:51
  well,
• 27:51
  we
• 27:52
  appreciate
• 27:52
  you
• 27:52
  being
• 27:52
  on
• 27:53
  today
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  for
• 27:54
  preserving
• 27:54
  that
• 27:54
  football
• 27:54
  history.
• 27:56
  All
• 27:56
  right,
• 27:56
  thank
• 27:56
  you
• 27:57
  so
• 27:57
  much,
• 27:57
  Darren.
• 27:57
  It's
• 27:58
  been
• 27:58
  my
• 27:58
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• 27:59
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• 28:00
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