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Mega Edition: The Police Report That First Targeted Epstein's Deviant Behavior (Part 10-12) (5/2/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're picking back up where we left
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off with the Palm Beach police report into Jeffrey Epstein's
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alleged behavior. On November ninth, two thousand and five, Sergeant
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Frick and I traveled to redacted point in Beach, Florida,
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in hopes to interview Juan Alessi, the former houseman of
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Epstein's home. As no one was home, a business card
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was left for him to return my call. We then
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traveled to redacted in Miami and hopes to interview Alfredo Rodriguez,
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a former houseman of Epstein. We did not locate them
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at home. I left a business card for him to
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return my call. We then traveled to Lynn University and
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met with the Dean of Students, mister Turner. We requested
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to speak with redacted. Redacted was reinterviewed as she still
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was in possession of the rental car that Epstein had
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acquired for Redacted stated that Sarah Epstein's assistant had called
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her on her cellular telephone and informed her that rental
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was extended for her. Sarah stated she had paid an
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additional six hundred and twenty five dollars for her to
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keep the rental an extra month. Redacted was asked if
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she had any additional contact with either Epstein or anyone
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from his organization. Redacted stated that she did not, Other
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than the telephone call informing her that she could keep
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the car for an extra month. Redacted did not provide
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any additional information. On November tenth, two thousand and five,
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at approximately nine to forty seven am, Alfredo Rodriguez had
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telephoned referenced my business card found on his door. Rodriguez
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stated that he had worked for Epstein for approximately six
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months after the previous houseman left. Rodriguez stated that it
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was his responsibility to keep the identity of the masseuse private.
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Mister Epstein had a massage in the morning and one
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in the afternoon. Mister Rodriguez stated he would rather speak
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about this in private. He advised he would come to
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the police station to speak with me. Rodriguez stated he
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would return my call on Monday, No. Four, fourteenth, two
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thousand and five. I then made telephone contact with Juan Alessi.
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He advised he found my card on his door and
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wanted to know what I needed to speak with him
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about I explained to Alessi that I was conducting an
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investigation on his former employer, mister Epstein. Alessi stated that
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he would return my call shortly as he was in
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the middle of a project at his home. I received
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a telephone call from attorney Donald Morrell from redacted. Morell
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stated he represented mister Alessi and did not want me
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speaking with his client. I then made telephone contact with
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the State Attorney's office and confirmed that subpoenas would be
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issued to the former employees to assist in the investigation.
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I then made telephone contact with Attorney Guy Fronstein, attorney
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for mister Epstein. I explained to mister Fronstein that I
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would like to speak with mister Epstein. He stated, mister
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Epstein is not in the residence in Florida at this
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time and would check with them to ascertain if he
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could come and be here by Wednesday, November sixteenth, two
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thousand and five for an interview. Mister Fronstein stated he
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would return my call should mister Epstein decide to come
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in to the police station for an interview. The investigation continues.
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The narrative continues now with Joseph Roccari. On November fourteenth,
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two thousand and five, Detective Sandman and I traveled too
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Redacted in Loxahachie, Florida, and spoke with Redacted. She was
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told of the ongoing investigation involving Epstein. Redacted advised she
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had gone to the house on several occasions. During a
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sworn tape statement, she advised she started going to the
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house approximately one year ago and was brought by Redacted.
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Redacted stated that Redacted brought her into the home and
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she was introduced to a girl named Sarah once again
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Sarah kelln Vickers Sarah. Once she met her, Sarah brought
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her upstairs into a master bathroom. Redacted stated she met
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Jeffrey in the bathroom. He lay on the table and
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picked up the massage oils. She provided the massage as
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he lay naked on the massage bed. She stated she
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rubbed his calves in back area. Upon the end of
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the massage, Epstein removed himself from the massage table and
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paid her three hundred dollars for the massage. Redacted stated
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she had only been at the house approximately five or
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six times. Redacted said each time she went to the
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house she was notified by Sarah, Epstein's assistant, that Epstein
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was in town and would like to work with her.
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Redacted stated she returned to the house and was again
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led upstairs by Sarah. She provided the massage clothed. Redacted
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advised it wasn't really weird until later on. Redacted was
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asked if she ever removed her clothing to provide a massage.
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Redacted stated it was not until the third time that
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she went that she removed her clothing. Redacted stated that
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she was notified by Sarah that Epstein wanted her to
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come to work. She arrived at the house and was
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led upstairs by Sarah. She started providing the massage. When
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Epstein asked her to remove her clothing, Redacted removed her pants, shirt,
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and bra. She stayed in her thong panties and continued
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rubbing Epstein. Epstein turned onto his back and she rubbed
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his chest area. Redacted stated she knew he was masturbating
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himself as she was providing the massage. Redacted stated she
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believed he climaxed based on his breathing. She did not
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want to view either the climax or the fact that
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he was masturbating Redacted stated once the breathing relaxed, he
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got up and told her to get dressed. She was
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paid three hundred dollars for services. Redacted stated on the
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last time that she went to provide a massage, she
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was notified by Sarah to come to the house and work.
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Redacted stated she was now dating her current boyfriend and
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did not feel comfortable going. She recalled it was approximately
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January two thousand and five. She said she went already
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thinking that this would be the last time. She went
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upstairs and went into the master bedroom. She met with Epstein,
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who was wearing only a towel. As he entered the
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room to lie on the table. Redacted stated, Epstein caught
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her looking at the clock. On several occasions. Epstein asked
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her if she was in a hurry. Redacted stated her
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boyfriend was in the car waiting for Redacted further stated
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that Epstein got upset as she wasn't enjoying the massage.
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She told him that she didn't want to continue and
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she would not be back. Epstein told her to leave
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as she was ruining his massage. I asked her if
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she had any contact with Epstein's organization. She stated she
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received two hundred dollars from Western Union in Palm Beach
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as a Christmas gift. Redacted advice she had no formal
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training in providing any massages. Redacted also stated she was
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sixteen years old when she first went to Epstein's house
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at approximately four to twenty two pm. I may telephone
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contact with redacted at redacted. She agreed to meet with
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me at a public place. I suggested she come to
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the police station for an interview. Redacted did not want
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to meet at the police station. I recommended we meet
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at the Palm Beach Gardens Mall in the food court area.
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She agreed, and an appointment was made for November fifteenth,
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two thousand and five, at five pm at the food court.
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The investigation continues. The next narrative we have now is
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from Jennifer Sandman. On ten twenty, two thousand and five,
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I assisted executing a search warrant at three point fifty
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eight Albrio Way in the town of Palm Beach, Florida,
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under the direction of affient Detective Joseph Riccari, Detective Melonchoc
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and I searched the pantry room that is west next
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to the kitchen. This room had all white cabinets with
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a dark gray and black countertop. We did not find
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anything in this room. We searched the Yellow and Blue
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room in the west next to the pantry room. This
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room had a very large statue of a man with
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a bow. Taken into evidence from this room were nine
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photographs in frames of various women. We searched the main
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entrance foyer that is to the north of the Yellow
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and Blue room. This room contained two bamboo chairs and
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ottomans with cushions. It also contained a round table with
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numerous books. We searched another blue room that is west
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of the foyer. This room had a stereo system and
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bookshelves that were from the floor to the ceiling. Taken
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into evidence from this room were eight photographs and frames
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of various women and door Epstein, the owner of the residence.
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We searched the room to the west of the blue
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room that has sliding glass doors that led out to
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the pool. In this room, in the dresser were two
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DVDs and two VCR tapes. These items were taken into evidence.
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We searched the two thousand and four black Chevy Suburban
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bearing Florida tag X ninety nine EGL registered to Jeffrey Epstein,
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which was located on the east side of the driveway
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facing south. I found a thrifty rental agreement between the
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passenger seat and the middle console. The name on the
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rental agreement was Johanna Schoberg from redacted. The phone number
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on the agreement was redacted. The vehicle rented was white redacted.
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The vehicle was rented on nine twenty five oh five
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at seventeen fifty nine hours and was returned on nine
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twenty six five at sixteen fifty two hours. The last
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four numbers of the credit card used are redacted. Detective
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Melonchock found a piece of paper in the middle console
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that said I use the cash in here to fill
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up the tank and was signed by Johanna. I searched
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the two thousand and five black Cadillac Escalade SUV bearing
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Florida tag Q twenty nine nine GT registered to Jeffrey Epstein,
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which was located on the west side of the driveway
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facing south. I did not find anything in this vehicle.
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All the items that were taken into evidence were photographed
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in the place they were located and then turned over
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to the crime scene. Going on to the next part,
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we're going back to the narrative of Joseph Riccari. On
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November fifteenth, two thousand and five, Detective Sandman and I
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traveled to redacted in Royal Palm Beach. We met with redacted,
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a seventeen year old juvenile who was not in school
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this day due to a cold from which she was suffering.
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Redacted was told that I needed to speak with her
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in reference to an ongoing investigation involving a subject she
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would know as Jeffrey Epstein. Prior to speaking with her,
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I explained that because of the fact that she was
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a minor, I needed to speak with her parents. Prior
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to speaking with her, She telephoned her father, mister redacted,
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on his cell phone and explained to him that Detective
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Sandman and I were there to speak with her. I
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spoke with mister adacted on the telephone and informed him
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that I needed to speak with his daughter in reference
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to an ongoing investigation. Mister adacted advised he had no
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problem with us speaking with his daughter. During a sworn
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tape statement, Redacted stated that she met Jeffrey Epstein over
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a year ago. She was sixteen years of age and
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was approached by Redacted, who informed her that she could
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make money providing a massage to Epstein for two hundred dollars.
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Redacted had informed her that she would have to provide
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this massage topless. Redacted made the arrangements with Epstein and
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his assistance and took Redacted to the house. Redacted stated
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that Redacted and she entered through a glass door that
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led into a kitchen. Redacted took her upstairs to a
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master bedroom and master bathroom. She recalled. The bathroom had
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a large bank couch, sauna, and matching shower. Epstein entered
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into the room wearing only a towel. Redacted and Redacted
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removed their clothing, remaining only in their thong underwear. She
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further stated that Epstein lay on his chest on the table.
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Epstein selected which oils to use for the massage. Both
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Redacted and Redacted provided the massage on his legs, back,
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and feet. Forty minutes into the massage, Epstein turned and
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over onto his back and requested Redacted weight downstairs in
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the kitchen area for redacted. Epstein instructed Redacted to finish
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the massage. As Redacted got dressed, Redacted started rubbing his chest.
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Redacted left the room and Epstein began masturbating himself as
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Redacted rubbed Epstein's chest. Redacted stated he continued masturbating until
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he climaxed on the towel he was wearing. When asked
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if she had removed the towel, she stated he turned
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the towel around so that the opening would allow him
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to expose himself. After he cleaned himself off with the towel,
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he instructed or Redacted that the massage was done and
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to get dressed and met with him downstairs. Redacted got
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dressed and met with Epstein in the kitchen area. She
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was paid two hundred dollars for providing the massage. Redacted
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stated that she was aware that Redacted also received money
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for the same thing. The second time she went to
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the house, she was again approached by Redacted and Redacted
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asked if she wanted to return to the house to
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provide another massage. Redacted agreed, and the arrangements were made
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by Redacted for her to return to the house. Redacted
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stated that Redacted drove her to the house and knocked
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on the same glass door that leads to the kitchen area.
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They were allowed entry into the house by one of
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the staff members. Redacted led her upstairs to the master
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bedroom area. Redacted left redacted this time to do the
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massage alone. Epstein entered the room again wearing only a towel.
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Redacted began removing her clothing, as she did last time
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she was at the house. Epstein instructed her to get naked.
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He lay on the table on his stomach as Redacted
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began massaging his legs and his back. As Redacted finished
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with Epstein's back and legs, Epstein then turned over onto
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his back. Redacted started to rub his chest, and he
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began masturbating himself. As Redacted rubbed his chest, Epstein leaned
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over and produced a massager vibrator. He turned it on
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and began rubbing Redacted's vagina and masturbating himself at the
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same time. Redacted stated she continued to rub his chest
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as this was occurring. She described the vibrator massage as large,
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gray with a large head. Epstein rubbed her vagina for
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approximately two to three minutes with the massage or vibrator.
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He then removed the vibrator from her vaginal area and
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concentrated on masturbating himself. Redacted stated he climaxed onto the
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towel again and informed her that the massage was done.
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Redacted got dressed and met with Redacted, who was waiting
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in the kitchen area. She received two hundred dollars for
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the massage. Redacted said she never returned to the house
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and had no desire to return to the house. Redacted
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was asked if she received any formal massage training. She
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advised she had no formal training. Redacted was asked if
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Epstein knew a real age. Redacted stated he knew. As
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he asked her questions about herself and high school, he
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was aware she attended and is still attending redacted high school.
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The interview was concluded. I suggested Redacted inform her parents
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of what occurred at the Epstein house. Redacted stated she
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would tell her father, as he was unaware this had occurred.
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I left my business card for any questions they may have.
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We left the area and returned to the police station.
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The tape was placed into evidence. The investigation continues. All right, folks,
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we're gonna wrap up this episode right here, and in
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the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
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All of the information that goes with this episode can
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be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
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welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
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diving back into the Palm Beach police report and we're
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gonna pick up where we left off once again. The
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narrative is belonging to Joseph Riccari. On November fifteenth, two
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thousand and five, Officer Monion and I responded to the
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Palm Beach Gardens Mall Food Court section to meet with
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Redacted at a proximately five ten pm. Redacted arrived and
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met with us at the food court. Redacted provided a
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sworn tape statement in which she stated she had been
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at the Epstein house over fifty times. She began going
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to Epstein's house when she turned eighteen years old. Redacted
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was asked if she knew of the ongoing investigation. She
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stated she was aware there was an investigation as she
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had been told by other girls that they were interviewed. Additionally,
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she has had several telephone conversations with Epstein's assistance as
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to what has been going on during the investigation. I
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asked Redacted how she was introduced to Epstein. Redacted stated
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she did not want to disclose who brought her to
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the house, but she would respond to any other questions.
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When I asked her what happened at the house, she
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stated that everything happened. It all began with the massages.
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Each time she went more things happened. She would massage
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Epstein and he would masturbate. In climax, she stated, things
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escalated from them. She provided oral sex on Epstein and
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he provided oral sex on her. She stated he would
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also use a massager vibrator on her vagina to stimulate
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her as he massaged him. He introduced his assistant Nadia
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or Nauda to have vaginal intercourse with redacted. She stated
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Nadia would utilize a strap on synthetic penis to have
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intercourse with her. She was told to masturbate herself as
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Epstein and Nadia had sexual intercourse. All this was done
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at Epstein's direction. Redacted could not provide exact dates as
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she had been to the house so many times. Redacted
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stated Epstein inserted his fingers in her vagina to stimulate
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her as she massaged him. When I asked her if
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there had been any vaginal intercourse with Epstein, she stated
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she did not have sex with him. She did admit
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having sex with Nadia his assistant. Redacted stated, not every
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time she went involved sexual favors. Sometimes she would just
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talk with them and get paid. I asked her how
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much she got paid each time she went to Epstein's residence.
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Redacted stated she got paid three hundred dollars every time
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she went to the house. She was told to bring
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other girls to him to provide massages. Redacted declined, stating
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that she does not want to do that and did
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not want to introduce anyone else to do what she does.
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Redacted stated she had never received any formal training in
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providing massages. I showed Redacted a photo lineup in which
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Nadia Marsenkova was placed in position six. She reviewed the
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six photographs and immediately identified Nadia Marsonkova as the person
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with whom she had intercourse. Additionally, it was the same
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person she watched have intercourse with Epstein. She signed the
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photo lineup under Nadia Marsonkova's photo as the person she identified.
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We then left the mall and returned to the police station.
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The photo lineup and tape were placed into evidence. The
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investigation continues. The next narrative is from Joseph Racard how
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are you? Once again, On November seventeenth, two thousand and five,
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I received a phone message from attorney Guy Fronstein, who
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advised to call his cellular phone reference his client Jeffrey Epstein.
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I telephoned to cell phone and left a message for
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him to return my call. I did not receive a
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call back on Thursday, November seventeenth, two thousand and five.
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On Friday, November eighteenth, two thousand and five, I retrieved
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another voicemail from my work phone from mister Fronstein, advising
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he would not produce his client Jeffrey Epstein for any statement.
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Fronstein stated he had spoken with ASA Lana Bellohovic and
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expressed mister Epstein as a passion for massages. I called
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ASA Lana Bellohovic and confirmed that Fronstein had telephoned her
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reference this case. Although nothing was discussed, mister Fronstein did
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adviser that Epstein is very passionate about massages. I also
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spoke with ASA Dally Oweiss reference the previous employee j
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Maria Alessi. She advised that if they had been served
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through a subpoena process server, they were both scheduled to
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appear on Monday, November twenty first, two thousand and five.
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At twelve pm. On November twenty first, two thousand and five,
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I met with asa Weiss, attorney Donnie Morrel, and Juan
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and Maria Alessi at the State Attorney's office. ASA Weiss
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had requested a court reporter to be present to take
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the statement of the lesses. I spoke with Maria Alessi
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in the presence of her attorney, Donnie Morrell. She advised
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she had worked for Epstein for eight years, from the
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period of nineteen ninety four through two thousand and two.
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She advised she had never had any direct conversations with them.
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She stated it was her husband who spoke directly with Epstein.
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Her work consisted of doing house cleaning, shopping, and other
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preparations when Epstein would arrive in town. Alessi stated the
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preparations consisted of preparing the house and the bathrooms for
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his arrival. She advised she did view several messuses that
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arrived at the house. She advised that two or three
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girls would come during a day and provide the massages.
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The girls that arrived look young in age. Miss Alessie
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did not know any of the girls personally and they
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were always different. She was told that when Epstein was
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in residence, he did not want to encounter the lesses
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during his stay in Palm Beach. I then spoke with
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mister Alessi in the presence of his attorney, Donnie Morrel.
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Mister Alessie stated that he was employed for eleven years
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with mister Epstein. He originally was hired as a part
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time employee and then moved into a full time position.
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His duties included everything. Alessie stated he was the house manager, driver,
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and house maintenance person. It was his responsibility to prepare
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the house for Epstein's arrival. When asked about cook's or assistants,
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Alessie stated they traveled with Epstein on his private plane.
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He remembered dealing with his girlfriend, Miss Maxwell originally and
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then dealt with Epstein directly. I asked mister Allee see
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about massages that occurred within the home. Mister Alessie stated
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mister Epstein had up to three massages a day. Each
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messuse that visited the house was different. Alessi stated that
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towards the end of his employment, the messuses were younger
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and younger. When asked how young mister Alessie stated they
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appeared to be sixteen or seventeen years of age. At most,
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the massages would occur in Epstein's bedroom or bathroom. There
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were times, he recalled that he would set up the
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massage tables either in Epstein's bedroom or in his bathroom.
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I asked if there were things going on other than
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a massage unless He stated that there were times towards
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the end of his employment that he would have to
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wash off a massage or vibrator and the long rubber
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penis which were in the sink after the massage. Additionally,
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he stated the bed would almost always have to be
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made after the massage. Alessie was never privy to what
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went on during the massage. He was asked if he
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remembered any names of the girls that massage Epstein. He
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tried to remember and was unable to provide any exact
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names of any girls. Alessi was asked about any contact
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with anyone from Epstein's organization. Alessi said he did speak
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with mister Epstein shortly after my initial contact with him
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to find out what was going on. Alessi also stated
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that approximately on November eleventh, two thousand and five, he
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was contacted by a private investigator from the law office
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of Roy Black. The investigator had called him to meet
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with him to ascertain what he was going to tell
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the police unless he stated. They met at the Carabas
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Restaurant in Boyton Beach and discussed the same questions I
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was asking him. I informed mister Alessi and mister Morrell
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that this is an ongoing investigation and anything we discussed
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should be confidential. They both acknowledged the fact that the
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information should be kept confidential. It should be noted that
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the court reporter was present during the interviews and would
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be providing a copy of the statements to me when
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became available. On November twenty first, two thousand and five,
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I received a voicemail from mister Fronstein, who advised he
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would not be making mister Epstein available for any statements.
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He did have some words that he wanted to relay
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on behalf of mister Epstein. I telephoned his office and
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left a message for him to return my call. On
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November twenty ninth, two thousand and five, I received a
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callback from mister Fronstein, who left a voicemail after hours.
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On November twenty eighth, two thousand and five, advising he
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would return my call during normal business hours to speak
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with me and reference the case on November twenty ninth,
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two thousand and five. On November twenty ninth, two thousand
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and five, at approximately to thirty PM, I received a
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telephone call on the department issued cell phone. Mister Fronstein
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stated he was calling to relay information that mister Epstein
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wished he could relay. Mister Fronstein stated that he would
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not allow mister Epstein to speak with me at this time.
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He further stated that mister Epstein is very passionate about massages.
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He continued that mister Epstein had allegedly donated over one
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hundred thousand dollars to the Ballet of Florida for massages.
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The massages of therapeutic and spiritually sound for him. That
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it is why he has so many massages. Mister Fronstein
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stated he appreciated the way the investigation has not been
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leaked out into the media. I explained to mister Fronstein
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that it is important to protect the innocent if the
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allegations are not substantiated. Mister Fronstein was told of the
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allegations that the private investigator is assigned to the case
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have been portraying themselves as police officers. Additionally, I explained
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that my cell phone had been called by the private investigators.
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Mister Fronstein advised he was not aware of that and
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advised they were under the direction of Attorney Roy Black
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in Miami. Mister Fronstein further stated Epstein had originally called
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mister Dershowitz and Boston, who recommended Roy Black in Miami,
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who asked mister Fronstein to assist. I informed him that
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if and when any charges would be presented, I would
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notify him. The call was then terminated. The investigation continues.
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All right, folks, we're going to wrap up this episode
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here and in the next episode we're going to pick
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up where we left off. All of the information that
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goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
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left off with the Palm Beach police report, and to
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do that once again, we're picking up with the narrative
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of Detective Rocari, a review of the telephone message books
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which were obtained during the search, warrant was conducted in
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which various messages from different dates were made to Jeffrey Epstein.
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The telephone message books have a duplicate copy carbon copy
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which once a phone message is written into the book,
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the top copy is then torn on the perforated edge
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and the carbon copy is left in the book. First,
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names of girls, dates, and telephone numbers were on the
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copy of the messages. I recognized various numbers and names
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of girls that had already been interviewed. The body of
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the messages was time of the day that they called
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for confirmation of work. Other messages and telephone numbers were
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located in which the body of the messages were I
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have girls for him or I have two girls for him.
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These messages were taken by Sarah for Jeffrey Epstein. Based
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on the context of the body of the messages, I
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requested subpoenas for subscriber information on the telephone numbers and
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the timeframe involved. Copies of the messages were made for
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evidentiary purposes. I obtained redacted's high school yearbook for two
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thousand and five and two thousand and four and two
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thousand and three. I first reviewed the two thousand and
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five yearbook and located most of the girls I had
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spoken with. Additionally, I located or redacted based on the
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corrected name spelling. I was able to locate her and
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her residence in Losahachi. December eighth, two thousand and five,
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Detective Cristo and I responded to redacted Losaacci. I located
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redacted at her home. She advised she is attending redacted
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High School and is participating in the early release program
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so she can maintain her part time job as she
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is still a minor. I left my business card to
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have her mother return my call to request an interview
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with her daughter. We then left the area. I also
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had previously researched the telephone number for a redacted and
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telephone number redacted. A subpoena had been issued for the
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information on redacted. The telephone number was registered to that
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she was the daughter of redacted and is currently residing
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at redacted West Palm Beach. Detective Cristo and I attempted
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to contact with redacted with negative results. I left my
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business card on her front door, requesting she returned my call.
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We then responded to redacted. I also attempted contact with
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Redacted with negative results my business card for him to
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return my call. On December ninth, two thousand and five,
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I received a telephone call from Redacted's mother, who was
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made aware on the ongoing investigation in Palm Beach. Redacted
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advised she was told of everything that occurred at Epstein's
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house involving Epstein and his staff. She advised she would
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allow me to question her daughter about what occurred and
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would cooperate with the investigation. Redacted provided me with redacted
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cellular telephone number to schedule an appointment for an official interview.
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I telephoned her cellular telephone and made a tentative appointment
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for Monday, December twelfth, two thousand and five. I then
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received a telephone call from Redacted's father of redacted, who
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stated he found the business card on his door. I
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explained that I was conducting an investigation and needed to
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speak with Redacted as she may have information that could
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assist in the investigation. Mister Redacted stated that his daughter
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no longer resides with him and has her own trailer
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in another trailer park. He advised he would tell her
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to call me on December twelfth, two thousand and five.
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Due to a conflict with schedule, Arrangements were made to
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meet with Redacted on Tuesday, December thirteenth, two thousand and five,
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at five pm. On December thirteenth, two thousand and five,
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Detective Dawson and I traveled to Lochsahatchie and met with Redacted.
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During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated that when she
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was sixteen years old, she was taken to Epstein's house
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to provide a massage for money. Redacted stated it was
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before Christmas last year when Redacted approached her and asked
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her if she needed to make money for Christmas. Redacted
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stated she did and agreed to provide a massage for money.
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Redacted made arrangements to take Redacted to the house and
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drove Redacted to the house to work. Redacted stated she
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couldnt remember the street name, but would be able to
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drive to the street. They drove to the last house
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on the street and pulled in the last house on
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the left side. They walked up the driveway and entered
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through a side gate which led to a kiit door.
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They knocked on the door and were encountered by an
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employee who was described as a Spanish looking lady. They
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informed her that they were expected. They were then encountered
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by a white female with long blonde hair. Redacted was
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unable to remember the name of the white female with
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blonde hair, but knew she was Epstein's assistant. She was
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led upstairs by the white female, who explained that there
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would be lotions out already and Epstein would choose the
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lotion he wanted her to use. She was led through
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a spiral staircase which led to a master bedroom and
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a bathroom. The massage table was already set up in
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the bathroom. Redacted described the bathroom as a large, spacious
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bathroom with a steam room and shower beside it, with
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a sink to the right. Redacted was introduced to Jeff,
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who was on the phone when she entered. Jeff was
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wearing a white towel and lay on his stomach so
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that Redacted may massage his feet and his calves. Redacted
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started to massage with the massage oil Jeff chose and
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rubbed his feet and his calves. He got off the
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phone and requested she massages back as well. She began
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rubbing his back and got to the small of his back.
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During the rubbing of his back, Jeff asked her to
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get comfortable. He requested she removed her pants and her shirt.
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Redacted removed her shirt and pulled her pants off. Redacted
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stay in her bron thong panties as he finished the
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small of his back. Jeff then turned onto his back.
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He instructed she rubbed his chest and pinch his nipples.
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As she began to rub his chest, Jeff asked her
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questions about herself. Redacted remember telling him that she attended
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redacted high school. Jeff asked her if she was sexually active.
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Before redacted could answer, he also asked what sexual positions
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does she enjoy. Redacted stated that she was shy didn't
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like talking about those things. She continued rubbing his chest.
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Epstein reached up unsnapped her bra from the front. Redacted
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explain the bra she used had a front snapping device.
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Epstein rubbed her breast and asked her if she liked
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having her breast rubbed. Redacted said no, I don't like that.
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Epstein then removed his towel and lay on the bed naked,
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exposing his penis to redact it. He began touching his
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penis and masturbated as he touched her breast. Redacted explained
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Jeff then touched her vagina area by rubbing her vagina
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with his fingers on the outside of her thong panties.
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Redacted tensed up and stated Jeff was aware that she
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was uncomfortable. Redacted stated that Jeff told her, relax, I'm
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not going inside. She further explained Jeff commented to her
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how beautiful and sexy she was. Jeff then moved her
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thong panties to one side and now was stroking her
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clitteriss Redacted said Jeff commented how hard my clit was.
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He then inserted two fingers in her vagina and was
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stroking her within her vagina. She tried pulling back to
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pull out his fingers from within her vagina. Jeff removed
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his fingers from within her vagina and apologized for putting
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his fingers inside her. During this time, he kept his
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hand on her vagina area, rubbing her vagina. Redacted stated
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that he rubbed her real heart as he was masturbating.
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Redacted said he climaxed onto the towel she had been
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previously wearing and got up from the table. Jeff told
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her there was two hundred dollars for her on the
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dresser within the master bathroom. Jeff also told her that
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there was an additional one hundred dollars that was to
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be given to redacted for bringing her there to massage
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m Jeff told her to leave her telephone number with
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his assistant as he wanted to see her again. Jeff
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stated his assistant would contact her to work again soon.
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I asked her if she ever received any formal massage training,
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to which she stated she did not. Redacted stated it
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was the only time she ever went to work for
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Jeff and knew what happened to her was wrong. She
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stated she no longer speaks to redact it because she
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was upset that she took her there. She further stated
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that she had never been contacted for additional work. The
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interview was terminated when we left the area. The investigation continues. Next,
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we have the narrative of Alan Dix. On ten twenty
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oh five, at approximately oh nine to thirty hours, I
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assisted with the execution of a search warrant at three
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point fifty eight Elbriyo Way. Initially, I was assigned to
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enter the residence and conduct a sweep of the premises
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for safety purposes. I then accompanied CSEU Tech pablic while
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she photographed the exterior of the house. Once this was complete,
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I was assigned to search certain areas of the house
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with Detective Dawson as part of the search warrant. We
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began in the garage, searching three Mercedes Benz vehicles, a
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Harley Davidson motorcycle, and adjacent closets in the garage. Nothing
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of evidentiary value was located. We then searched two closets
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off the kitchen area on the east side. These can
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best be described as pantry or as storage closets. Nothing
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of evidentiary value was obtained. A small office with adjoining
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bath was then searched. In the bath area located a
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phone message book with recent messages. This item was seized
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as evidence. Please note this bath and shower area are
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not used as designed, but our storage areas, containing a
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variety of items to include a gun safe in the
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shower and dissorted household items. We then searched the bath
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area and closet at the base of the main stairs
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in the foyer. Inside the closet, two massage tables were located,
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as well as partial nude female photographs. These items were
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later seized as evidence. Nothing of evidentiary value was noted
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in the bathroom. We then searched two bedrooms upstairs on
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the east side of the residence. Located in the bathroom
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of the south bedroom was penis shaped soap. Located in
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the bedroom of the northern bedroom was penis and vagina
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shaped soap, as well as an adult sex toy. These
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items were seized as evidence. We then searched the pool
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cabana located in the southwest corner of the property. Several
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photographs of nude females were seized as evidence. I was
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then assigned to stand by with a person I believe
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was Douglas Shottle. Mister Schotel was in the residence at
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the beginning of the search warrant. He was present during
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the search warrant service, and subsequent search. I stood by
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with him until the search was completed and I departed
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the residence. I had no conversation with him regarding the
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reason for our presence regarding seized evidence. All items were
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photographed in place and then collected by CSEU personnel. This
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concludes my involvement in this case. The next narrative we
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now have is from Curtis Crowell. On Thursday, October twentieth,
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two thousand and five, at approximately oh nine thirty six hours,
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I assisted in the execution of a search warrant located
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at three fifty eight Lbrio Way, residence of Jeffrey Epstein.
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I was instructed by case agent Joseph Roccary to secure
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all computer and media related material from the residence. Upon
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my arrival, I was directed by Detective Raccary to a
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room designated as the kitchen staff office. I observed a
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silver in color CPU with the left side cover removed,
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exposing the CPU's hardware, sitting on floor next to a
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glass type desk. The CPU had no discernible identifiers or
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features indicating a Maker model. This CPU was powered off
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with a power cord not plugged in. The keyboard and
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mouse were a top the CPU. It should be noted
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that the CPU was not connected to a monitor, printer,
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or other media device. On the back panel of the CPU,
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I observed an AV card with RCA jacks attached. This
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type of hardware would allow audio and video to be
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downloaded onto the CPU's hard disc. The ends of the
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RCA jacks were unattached at the time of the search,
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and no external camera was located within this room. The
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CPU was located on the right side of a desk
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that held a flat panel LCD screen. The desk also
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held another keyboard and mouse, indicative of a second computer. However,
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no other computer was found. It appeared as though a
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second computer had been recently removed, as the cable ends
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from the monitor, keyboard, mouse were in the same area.
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A further search of the room revealed no media storage
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devices IECDS, floppy discs, ZIP discs, et cetera. This type
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of media is commonly stored in an area where computers
39:20
are placed, yet no media was found. After completing a
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search of this room, I secured the CPU and turned
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all items over to the evidence custodian for a future
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forensic analysis via a property receipt. I was then directed
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by Detective Rocari to a room designated as the garden room,
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where I observed a wooden desk facing west. The desk
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held the flat screen LCD monitor, keyboard, mouse, media card reader,
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and printer. However, no CPU was located. All of the
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cables were removed from an area where a computer had
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once been. A search of the desk area revealed no
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signs of any media devices. Detective Raccary directed me to
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a third location designated as the Cabana Room, which is
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detached from the residents and located just south of the pool.
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In the southeast corner of the room, I observed an
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office type setting with an L shaped desk holding a
40:16
flat screen LCD monitor, keyboard, mouse, and printer. However, no
40:20
CPU is located. All of the cables were removed from
40:24
an area where a computer once had been. A search
40:27
of the desk area revealed no signs of any media devices.
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Detective Raccari directed me to a second detached structure located
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on the southeast corner of the property. This area of
40:38
this structure was assigned with single letters to identify a
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particular part of the room. In the office area designated
40:46
as Room B, I observed a powered on Dell Dimension
40:49
twenty three fifty attached to an LCD flat panel monitor.
40:53
The screen displayed an open Microsoft Internet Explorer browser with
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BellSouth dot net. I observed no other acts of windows
41:00
in the start panel window and photograph screen. The power
41:04
cord was removed from the back of the Dell CPU
41:06
and I disconnected the cable modem to prevent remote access
41:11
at that time. The Dell CPU marked with serial number
41:14
six WTV and twenty one was secured and turned over
41:17
to the evidence custodian for future forensic analysis via a
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property receipt. I also located several media related items within
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Room B, which were recorded onto a property receipt and
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turned over to the evidence custodians. I then responded to
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a bedroom designated as Room F, where I observed a
41:37
white in color CPU marked Premio. The Premio CPU was
41:42
in a computer desk which held a white CRT monitor,
41:46
both of which were powered on. The CRT monitor displayed
41:49
a message from Norton antivirus software warning of an expired subscription.
41:54
I observed no other active windows in the start panel
41:57
window and photographed the scene. I removed the power cable
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from the back of the Premio CPU and shut down
42:03
all other media. The Premio CPU, mark with serial number
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two zero zero zero zero nine one zero seven eight
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was secured and turned over to the evidence custodian for
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future forensic analysis via a property receipt. I also located
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several media related items within Room F, which were recorded
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onto a property receipt and turned over to the evidence custodians.
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This concluded my participation in the search of the residents.
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All right, folks, who're gonna wrap up right there, and
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in the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
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All of the information that goes with this episode can
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be found in the description box.