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Two Ts getting the Tea with ANGIE KATSANEVAS (RHOSLC) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy MELONCTS and camerage Edge. Angie,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us today. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm honored. Thanks for having me. We did a little
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Speaker 1: um intro for you, but then we realized we don't
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Speaker 1: want to butcher your last name. So can you just
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Speaker 1: say it for us once and for all. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: like a cat, but with think Kake cats and abus
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Speaker 1: cats the name. We'll just continue calling calling you the
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Speaker 1: good Angie. That's how we've been referring to you on
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Speaker 1: the pod. I'll take that. Are you Greek and Greek? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: my parents are both from Greece, one of the most
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Speaker 1: beautiful places in the world. Yes, absolutely, I love going there.
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Speaker 1: I want to have you always lived in Salt Lake. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were born and raised. My parents came here, they
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Speaker 1: got married in Salt Lake City, and we were all
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Speaker 1: raised in Salt Lake. Do you return to Greece a lot? Uh? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We go back for vacations with my dad to where
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Speaker 1: he's from, to the village that he was born and
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Speaker 1: raised in, and then we also go there and just
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Speaker 1: vacation and Creed and Santorini and Mikingos, yes, well, and
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Speaker 1: bind us next time I go to all those places
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Speaker 1: years ago, I'll be your tour guide. Yes, well I
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Speaker 1: like it. Um, so are you guys LDS? No, we're
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Speaker 1: actually Greek Orthodox, which growing up here, I was probably
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Speaker 1: one of the only non Mormons in my school and
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Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. But I grew up around a lot
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Speaker 1: of Mormons, amazing families. They were very loving and welcoming
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Speaker 1: to us. So I had a great experience being non
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Speaker 1: Mormon in Salt Lake City and being the only Greek
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Speaker 1: Orthodox person for miles. So I have a question then,
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Speaker 1: being in that cast. Is there any practicing Mormons? No,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's Jack Mormons, but no practicing Mormons.
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Speaker 1: How Jack Mormons? Mormons? Mormons? How does Salt Lake City
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Speaker 1: the people in town feel about How do they feel
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Speaker 1: about the show? Uh? You know, I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that are Mormon are really offended by the
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Speaker 1: way that the church has been spoken about because it's
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Speaker 1: being seen in negative light. And I can respect that, right.
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Speaker 1: We are all proud of our religion and our culture,
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Speaker 1: whatever that looks like. I don't think a lot of
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Speaker 1: the Mormons love how it's being represented. I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that have left the church can probably
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Speaker 1: relate to the girls. So there's a both sides. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I think you see a little bit of both
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Speaker 1: as far as religion goes. Since we're kind of just
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Speaker 1: getting to know you, I feel like as the season
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Speaker 1: is progressing, we're seeing a little bit more. I have
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Speaker 1: a couple of quick questions. First, have you ever been
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Speaker 1: on the show prior and we just haven't seen you
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Speaker 1: prior to this season. Yes, I was um at you know,
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Speaker 1: a small snippet at Heather's beauty lab and laser ground
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Speaker 1: opening in season one, and then I filmed with Lisa
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Speaker 1: and Jen season two and one scene um was two
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Speaker 1: days before Jenn got arrested and they ended up throwing
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Speaker 1: it away. It was a scene where we filmed a
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Speaker 1: shot tank like shark take and they just yeah, they
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Speaker 1: did away with the entire scene. But it was a disaster. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: things didn't go with Jenna and I and as usual,
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Speaker 1: ship hit the fan and so um, I wasn't looking
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Speaker 1: forward to seeing it anyway, but it never came out.
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Speaker 1: So I have filmed a bit and um I was
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Speaker 1: at least as event for her fresh Wolf uh lawn.
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Speaker 1: UM kind of party and yeah, so I filmed the
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Speaker 1: little So when they offer you a snowflake next season,
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Speaker 1: are you gonna take it? Well, I will pull my
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Speaker 1: hand out flakes lands in it. I'm ready. I predict
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Speaker 1: it's gonna land in it. Oh, I heard about this stuff.
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Speaker 1: I've been around for a while. You know you're saying
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Speaker 1: you're you're definitely one of the I've been around about
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. So do you do you feel like Dana,
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Speaker 1: the other Angie, and you are all kind of like
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Speaker 1: like auditioning to be the next housewide by having three
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Speaker 1: friends of is a lot? Does it ever feel that way?
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was something this past episode where you
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Speaker 1: you know, you could see that the other Angie wasn't invited,
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Speaker 1: and then Whitney released the text messages like what exactly
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Speaker 1: is the dynamic? Do you feel like the women are
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Speaker 1: welcoming you guys? Are they trying to push you out? Well?
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Speaker 1: I feel that the group is kind of divided in
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Speaker 1: half right now. It didn't really start out that way,
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Speaker 1: but based on things that have come up, it's it's
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Speaker 1: ended that way. Um. You know, I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say I'm auditioning because I feel that I'm being myself.
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Speaker 1: Everything that I'm doing I would do in real life.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes people say, oh, you're doing too much, But it's like,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to minimize who I am because I'm
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Speaker 1: not auditioning. I'm I'm acting in a way that I
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Speaker 1: would in the real world. And this is a reality show. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe some of the other girls feel that way.
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Speaker 1: I just feel that, you know, whatever happens is meant
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Speaker 1: to be definitely the you know, people are supporting the
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Speaker 1: friends that they want to come on more and then
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Speaker 1: trying to throw the other ones under the bus, you know,
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Speaker 1: laughing at them or you know, um not being supportive
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Speaker 1: during the episodes and online, and I think they think
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Speaker 1: that that's their way of of I seeing people out
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Speaker 1: of the group. Um. Well, because I was kind of
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Speaker 1: thinking this past episode when you took everybody to um
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Speaker 1: San Diego, your friend's house, you were talking and Gin
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Speaker 1: poured the champagne on your head. Clearly that wasn't funny,
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Speaker 1: and to me it almost was like, was she trying
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Speaker 1: to get power of you as a housewife and kind
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Speaker 1: of trying to put you in your place? Was that
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Speaker 1: ultimately what it felt like? That's that's exactly what it
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Speaker 1: felt like to me. It's like, you can be my
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Speaker 1: friend as long as you're my bitch, but you know,
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Speaker 1: if you're trying to come up here, then I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: push you back down here. And I felt like that
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Speaker 1: even filming with her last year. UM, if I spoke
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Speaker 1: to Lisa or went to Lisa's event, they never showed
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Speaker 1: the episode. Um, they never put in the episode, but
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Speaker 1: it was like, you you fake. I mean, this was
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Speaker 1: not the first snowball she threw at me. That's one thing. People.
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Speaker 1: It was like a build up of like multiple snowballs
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Speaker 1: being thrown at me on and off camera. And you know,
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Speaker 1: at that moment, it was like, you know what, don't
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Speaker 1: try and take over the tour. The sun is shining
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Speaker 1: on you. So I'm gonna humiliate you. I'm gonna demean
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Speaker 1: you and degrade you, even though you have stood up
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Speaker 1: for me off and on camera. And you know, she
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Speaker 1: humiliated me, not just in front of the group of ladies,
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Speaker 1: but in front of the entire world. I just felt
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Speaker 1: that that was so disrespectful and that's not who I am,
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Speaker 1: and that's not how I have treated her her or
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Speaker 1: would ever treat her. So you feel exactly that in
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Speaker 1: a moment that you know, women are supposed to friends
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Speaker 1: are supposed to build each other up, and she totally
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Speaker 1: demeaned me and degraded me in front of the That's
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Speaker 1: exactly what it looked like to as a as a
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Speaker 1: prior wine thrower. But mine was at Mine was about
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Speaker 1: anger or somebody interfering with my divorce situation, all this stuff.
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Speaker 1: The way that Jed did it was just so like
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Speaker 1: there was no anger, was just like I was gonna
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it was just embarrassing mad. You did
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Speaker 1: it out of anger and like somebody's face. But she
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Speaker 1: but she deserved it. I mean, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: anybody deserves it, but at the moment, like she deserved it.
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Speaker 1: You did not deserve that. Like it was just like
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Speaker 1: the way she did it so slowly and then asked
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Speaker 1: you you handled it so well, I would have lost
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Speaker 1: my ship, and then for her to pourt over her
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Speaker 1: head to make it sound like, well you know that
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Speaker 1: now we're even yeah, because I would never return that favor.
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Speaker 1: I would never do that in the first place. And
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Speaker 1: I felt that Jen and I had a different friendship
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Speaker 1: and to know that she would go there with me.
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Speaker 1: It really hurt me because I would never do something
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Speaker 1: like that. I've defended her and I would never do
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Speaker 1: such a thing. So I was that was an eye opening,
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Speaker 1: pivotal moment for me and our friendship, and I felt
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Speaker 1: that she's the one that threw our friendship away by
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Speaker 1: doing that after over a room, over a room, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I was being lighthearted. I was having fun
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Speaker 1: on the tour and know for her to take it
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Speaker 1: to that in front of people, we we all know
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Speaker 1: she wasn't having fun. The girls that want to support
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Speaker 1: and say it was fun and funny, there was nothing
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Speaker 1: funny about. How could they be supporting that? How like,
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Speaker 1: just walk me through this and speaking to Heather or Meredith,
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Speaker 1: There's absolutely no way those girls would have taken it
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Speaker 1: that way. They weren't at a club, and it wasn't
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Speaker 1: like shooting champagne through like. It wasn't that setting. It
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Speaker 1: was meant to humiliate you. It was And I know
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Speaker 1: in the moment they all said they you know, nobody laughed.
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Speaker 1: If you thought it was funny, why don't you laugh?
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Speaker 1: In the road he thought it was funny. Why didn't
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Speaker 1: you raise your hand when I asked if you thought
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Speaker 1: it was funny, and then you know they decided to
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Speaker 1: now jump on this bandwagon and double down on Jan
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Speaker 1: and say they thought it was funny. You know, these
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Speaker 1: women have daughters, and I have a daughter as well.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine a woman that has daughters and it
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Speaker 1: is raising children would condone that kind of toxic behavior.
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Speaker 1: And you know, it only just shows their true character.
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Speaker 1: Now I know how they feel about me, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I know who they are, and and your true colors
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Speaker 1: are coming out. Now you've known Gen twenty years, have
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Speaker 1: you never noticed any toxic behavior come out of her? Well?
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Speaker 1: The difference is, I think when filming with Jen or
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Speaker 1: when she might feel that you are taking someone else's aside,
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Speaker 1: or you know, you are becoming friends with other women
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Speaker 1: in the group, which is natural, I mean we're also jealousy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I felt that there was jealousy there. I felt that
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Speaker 1: there was like this territorial thing where you know, if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be on here, you can't talk to anyone
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Speaker 1: else or become friends with anyone. But that doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that I'm not going to support Jen if I form
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Speaker 1: friendships with other women in the group. That's sort of
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Speaker 1: what happens naturally, So yeah, you know, and I watched
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Speaker 1: her do it to other people, never really thinking she
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Speaker 1: would turn on me like this and humiliate me like this.
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Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing is that I you know,
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Speaker 1: I think I took all that I could take, and
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Speaker 1: you know it happened on camera. I responded to the
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Speaker 1: drink for by bring phase up. And you know, when
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Speaker 1: you're poked and poked and poked, at some point you're
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Speaker 1: gonna blow. Well, you handed it to her in the
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Speaker 1: limo like that was the moment. I was like, all right,
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Speaker 1: we're we're reaching out to the good Angie. We need
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Speaker 1: her on because you were so like I think in
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Speaker 1: the moment when just this is my thought, when in
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Speaker 1: the moment with the champagne, you could tell for a
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Speaker 1: second you wanted to cry, like you I've been in
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Speaker 1: that moment, Like you were like hold like holding back tears, like,
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Speaker 1: holy sh it, did this really just happened to me?
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Speaker 1: But you kept it together until you got alone and
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Speaker 1: had the conversation. But then once you were in the limo,
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Speaker 1: like you stepped into like high gear and you handed
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Speaker 1: it to her. But not even in a way that
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Speaker 1: anybody can say, anybody can really dispute it, alright, forget
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Speaker 1: what the line was. You said something like, are are
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Speaker 1: you a stand up person? Or are you a stand
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Speaker 1: up And that was like, Mike, drop well, and you know,
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Speaker 1: just to show you what what kind of a friend
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Speaker 1: I have been the biggest thing to me was that
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Speaker 1: she returned to the friendship, that it wasn't one sided,
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Speaker 1: that it wasn't just give give give. So it was
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Speaker 1: like she had a moment to support me in front
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Speaker 1: of the girls and she turned on me after, you know,
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Speaker 1: me being a supportive friend and everything that I felt
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Speaker 1: that I have done for her, and she knows what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Um, you know I feel that in
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Speaker 1: that moment, Yeah, I could have dumped the drink back,
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Speaker 1: but I wasn't going to go, you know, to her level.
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Speaker 1: I was taken back. Yeah, I did want to start
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Speaker 1: crying in the moment, but I didn't want to ruin
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Speaker 1: the trip for everybody else, and so I just held
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Speaker 1: it together. Obviously I had my breakdown, and then when
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Speaker 1: I pulled myself together, I brought facts. Yes, she did
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Speaker 1: like it was facts, right, it was all factual. I
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Speaker 1: didn't lie. I stated facts and I told her the
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Speaker 1: truth and I don't you know, I wasn't going to
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Speaker 1: bring any of that out. I was going to finish
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Speaker 1: off the season, finish off the year, keeping that a
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Speaker 1: secret that you know she didn't make good on her
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Speaker 1: husband's party. But you know, once the drink dumb hit,
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Speaker 1: it all comes out. Yeah, you're confessional when you're throwing
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Speaker 1: from the papers. It was a weak style, like throwing
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Speaker 1: one at a party. Right for one second, did you
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Speaker 1: ever even consider the hand me down gift as a gift?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It's like are you giving me like is
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Speaker 1: this like a gag order gift or like you think
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Speaker 1: you're giving me hush money? And in that moment, I
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Speaker 1: just thought, wait. A minute later, off camera, she said, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's just for everything with Sharif's party, and this light
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Speaker 1: bulb went on, like okay, I see this like manipulation tactic.
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Speaker 1: Here you can tell me you're not paying me back
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Speaker 1: and here's a little gift, so don't say anything. And
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Speaker 1: it was funny because somebody had wrote something on social
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Speaker 1: media like Jen gives Angie a gift with her skin
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Speaker 1: cells on it. Yeah, really like yeah, like no, thank you,
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Speaker 1: I don't need the re gift and um, let's just well,
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Speaker 1: Teddy and I gave her an original plan that you
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Speaker 1: were supposed to pay for your husband's party and keep
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Speaker 1: the re gift. Did you get any money so far?
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Speaker 1: Well from who she's not having any that is, I
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Speaker 1: can't give way spoiler, you can't. But if we're still
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Speaker 1: in the episode, the answer is no, and I have
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Speaker 1: to ask for my money from from a very dear friend. Right,
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Speaker 1: Teddy and I gave her a gift of coming into
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Speaker 1: our hotel room at Brovocn and letting her use our lamb.
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Speaker 1: Don't let me into this, Okay, it was my lamb,
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Speaker 1: but we were you were in there and she did
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Speaker 1: the glam and then as we left, she went back
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Speaker 1: in there and took the alcohol out of my mini fridge.
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Speaker 1: Hey girl, welcome from my world, I mean my cabin
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Speaker 1: that's gone dry since she my my my heart. The
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Speaker 1: guy that does my makeup was still in the room
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Speaker 1: cleaning up, and he's like, she came back in and
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Speaker 1: she like literally got into took the alcohol left, and
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Speaker 1: he's like, you need to go. Well, that is you
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Speaker 1: know that is uh in gen shaw form right there.
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Speaker 1: So how did you meet her in the first place?
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Speaker 1: Jen was well. We went to UM College around the
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Speaker 1: same time. I was in Beauty College Girls because I
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Speaker 1: didn't go to college and she was in college, joined
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Speaker 1: the club yes now it's okay at the University of Utah,
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Speaker 1: and we just kind of had friends in common. And
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Speaker 1: then Jen was a guest of my hair salon, so
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Speaker 1: I just kind of got, you know, reacquainted with her
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Speaker 1: again over the years and um just sort of kind
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Speaker 1: of came back together. Jen's fun, She's easy to want
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Speaker 1: to be friends with. She she has things, she has
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Speaker 1: fun energy. You can see how people are drawn towards her.
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Speaker 1: Very charismatic, and you know, that was the biggest thing
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Speaker 1: when I called her out and said are you you
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Speaker 1: know I think some people thought, oh, yeah, you call
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Speaker 1: her out on her charges. That's not what mattered to
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Speaker 1: me in the moment. What mattered to me in the
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Speaker 1: moment was you can't keep a friendship. And if you
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Speaker 1: can't keep a friendship with me after everything I've done,
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Speaker 1: then you cannot keep a friendship. So for me that
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Speaker 1: was more important than the charges. Like I, all I
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Speaker 1: wanted was support and love in return, and and she
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Speaker 1: couldn't take it. She couldn't take that you were getting
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Speaker 1: any empty spotlight, which is really when we hear about
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Speaker 1: the sentencing and all of the snake you're getting her.
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Speaker 1: I don't want hers. I'd love to have one. But
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Speaker 1: the funny thing about the party is like, you know,
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Speaker 1: to go back to that, she was five days away
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Speaker 1: from her husban's birthday party with no location and the
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Speaker 1: local roller that's a key nugget, very key nugget. The
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Speaker 1: roller skating rink that she was supposed to have it at,
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Speaker 1: not taking a roller skating rink skate. So I I
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Speaker 1: even called for her to beg because I'm very persuasive.
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Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, I will get them to close down
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Speaker 1: for your party. They said no. Now they wanted the
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Speaker 1: party to be filmed the following week, still no location.
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Speaker 1: I said, would you like to do it at this
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Speaker 1: club that I felt with stud the theme which was
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Speaker 1: Harlem Nights I'm a member of up in downtown Salt
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Speaker 1: Lake called the Alt Club. She said no, And then
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you can use my house. What do
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Speaker 1: you say to a friend that's five days away? No, lose,
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Speaker 1: you can use use my house and she's going to
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Speaker 1: open her home. We're going to use Angie's house for
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Speaker 1: the viewers go back and watch me, saying, hey, it'll
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Speaker 1: be like a house for me. Was like me being
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Speaker 1: my lighthearted, fun self, just making the most out of it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone at the party except the girls
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Speaker 1: on the cast, so these were Cherif's friend. I threw
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Speaker 1: her a lifeline, like, here you go, I'm gonna help
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Speaker 1: you out. Yeah, you can use the house, not knowing
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Speaker 1: that she was going to go, m I A and Hey,
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Speaker 1: I want a piano, I want a casino table. Do
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Speaker 1: you know a bartender? Do you know about this? Do
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Speaker 1: you know that my party plan she asked for all
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Speaker 1: those things, my party planner um backed out on me.
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Speaker 1: My party planner backed out. I find that interesting too,
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Speaker 1: that nobody would host her event, nobody would be willing
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Speaker 1: to do the party planning. So I said, I wonder why, right,
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Speaker 1: And I know now in hinds at him looking back,
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Speaker 1: thinking well, no, wonder. So I said, it's okay, we
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Speaker 1: can do it together. But you know, hey, girl, we
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Speaker 1: gotta get your husband a cake. We gotta. I mean,
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Speaker 1: she knew what she was wearing and that's all. She
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Speaker 1: didn't show up to the tasting in the restaurant to
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Speaker 1: look and put together the menu. It's like she just
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Speaker 1: went completely and then she kind of complained about the
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Speaker 1: way that you planned it, and we're confessional. I thought
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Speaker 1: my party looked a lot more classic and beautiful than
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Speaker 1: the one she threw in season one, supposedly through from
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Speaker 1: Meredith for um with all her friends with a bar
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Speaker 1: again even though her husband doesn't drink, and with no expectations.
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Speaker 1: Do you think she paid for that? Do you think
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Speaker 1: it was a production cost? Production doesn't put on I think,
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Speaker 1: as we know, those kind of a bed. How did
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Speaker 1: you have any idea that any of this prior to
17:45
Speaker 1: the show, that any of this was going on? And
17:47
Speaker 1: do you think Coach had any idea either? Uh? Well,
17:52
Speaker 1: you know, Jen was still standing by that she was innocent,
17:58
Speaker 1: and I stood by her as a friend. She hadn't
18:00
Speaker 1: pled guilty yet while we were planning the party, so
18:03
Speaker 1: I think I also viewed her in a different light
18:06
Speaker 1: at that moment. Um. I'd like to think Coach didn't
18:09
Speaker 1: know anything. You know, he's very well respected in Salt Lake.
18:13
Speaker 1: I think he's a great father. I think, you know,
18:16
Speaker 1: he's gone a lot. I think he's removed, So I
18:20
Speaker 1: wouldn't their comment on that, because I'd like to think no,
18:23
Speaker 1: but there's no proof that he knew anything, and any
18:27
Speaker 1: comment removed. We need to we need to remember that
18:32
Speaker 1: he's very removed. He's gone all the time. I mean,
18:35
Speaker 1: you know, Jen would be at my house just we
18:37
Speaker 1: would be having you know, bonding time. I'd be listening
18:39
Speaker 1: to her with everything she had going on until five
18:42
Speaker 1: in the morning. I wake up at seven because I'm
18:44
Speaker 1: a mom. Jen got to sleep in, so unlike Heather,
18:47
Speaker 1: I didn't put her in an uber. I drove her
18:50
Speaker 1: home at five in the morning. Many a night I
18:54
Speaker 1: was because she's alone a lot, and I loved at
18:57
Speaker 1: the time being with her and you know, being have
19:01
Speaker 1: you spent time with her since she pleaded guilty. No,
19:05
Speaker 1: I haven't even spoke to her since season finale. Haven't
19:09
Speaker 1: heard from her. She's you know, there are moments where
19:11
Speaker 1: I thought, should I reach out, But then suddenly she'd
19:14
Speaker 1: start cyber bullying me or posting really horrible things online,
19:18
Speaker 1: being demeaning again. So just when you see a glimmer
19:21
Speaker 1: of thinking, you know, having compassion again, remembering she's a
19:25
Speaker 1: mother with two sons and she's going away. But then
19:28
Speaker 1: she would hit me with another snowball, and it was like, Okay,
19:31
Speaker 1: I was reminded of who she is and what she's
19:34
Speaker 1: capable of, and that it's not worth it for me
19:36
Speaker 1: because it's not consistent. Like it was one sided. You know,
19:40
Speaker 1: she had all her conditions on me, but yet I
19:43
Speaker 1: was expected to act a certain way, but continue to
19:47
Speaker 1: bully me, to cyber bullying me, to talk about me,
19:50
Speaker 1: and totally disrespect me. So I've just learned that even
19:54
Speaker 1: there's no going back with her because she's not really
19:57
Speaker 1: capable in my opinion, of consistent friendship. So moving on
20:02
Speaker 1: to other cast members, who are you close with? Umm,
20:06
Speaker 1: I'm close to this with Lisa. UM. I love Lisa.
20:09
Speaker 1: We love Lisa. We have a lot in common. We
20:13
Speaker 1: both run business, we both have children up close to
20:15
Speaker 1: the same age. Um, except I know I would say
20:18
Speaker 1: we're homemakers, but um, you know, Lisa loves to talk
20:21
Speaker 1: about and I'd love to cook. She's so much fun.
20:26
Speaker 1: I love her. I really value and appreciate the support
20:28
Speaker 1: that she's given me during this time. We talk every day,
20:31
Speaker 1: multiple times a day. I also really loved Whitney. I
20:34
Speaker 1: think she's very sweet, very down to her earth. Um,
20:37
Speaker 1: you know, we've grown very close. She was the last
20:39
Speaker 1: one I thought i'd be friends with because I'm like
20:41
Speaker 1: old enough to be her mom. And how old is
20:44
Speaker 1: Whitney and how old are you? Whitney starty seven and
20:47
Speaker 1: I just turned forty nine. But I just yeah, but
20:50
Speaker 1: I just love her. Um, she's a sweetheart, and dann
20:53
Speaker 1: as a sweetheart. And as for the others, they've just
20:57
Speaker 1: really shown me their two colors. What did you think
21:00
Speaker 1: about the fence staff with the h Do you think
21:04
Speaker 1: that Angie h actually really knew about it or do
21:08
Speaker 1: you think she's just playing coy here? Well, if this
21:11
Speaker 1: is an opinion thing, I absolutely one think they did
21:15
Speaker 1: that together. And she was completely over going on And
21:19
Speaker 1: you know that's another thing you know that really hurt Jen. Um.
21:22
Speaker 1: So I got to hear about that long before it
21:24
Speaker 1: was ever even you know, announced, and I immediately knew
21:27
Speaker 1: she was involved, and you know the way that she
21:30
Speaker 1: downplayed it to Jen, Oh, you'll have to talk to
21:32
Speaker 1: my husband. Um, I have no idea what you're talking about.
21:35
Speaker 1: Ask him. Who throws their husband under the bus like that? Like,
21:38
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what you're talking about. Just
21:40
Speaker 1: puts it onto her husband the way that she did
21:43
Speaker 1: that after she released under the bus. Again, it just
21:46
Speaker 1: goes back to this girl has like zero moral compass
21:49
Speaker 1: and she's willing to throw her own husband under the bus,
21:51
Speaker 1: like let him. You know, she's got nothing to lose,
21:54
Speaker 1: Like what does she do? She doesn't even have a job, right,
21:56
Speaker 1: So her husband now was like in a position of
21:59
Speaker 1: posibly have issues at work and in business because she's
22:03
Speaker 1: throwing him under the bus. She knew worth it. Yeah,
22:07
Speaker 1: it looked like he just came out and said that
22:09
Speaker 1: because he knew it was going to come out. My
22:11
Speaker 1: next question, it's like, was there a rumball and talk
22:14
Speaker 1: about it behind everybody's back that they everybody knew he
22:16
Speaker 1: was behind it, and that's why he brought it up.
22:19
Speaker 1: When it happened, Jen called him and called him out
22:22
Speaker 1: on it, he started crying like a little girl. Of course,
22:24
Speaker 1: like a little bitch. What iran? Like a little elf
22:27
Speaker 1: on the shelf? Bitch? And he was never clean. It's like,
22:33
Speaker 1: it looks like he's coming clean to be fourth, right,
22:36
Speaker 1: and because he feels guilty, he's coming clean because Jen
22:39
Speaker 1: called him out nine months prior and he that's kind
22:44
Speaker 1: of what we thought we talked about before. He just
22:46
Speaker 1: looked so cringe e and Mare's didn't even seem shocked
22:49
Speaker 1: by it. So I was like, something is everybody knew
22:52
Speaker 1: every this was already out and for Meredith to even say, oh, well,
22:56
Speaker 1: don't feel bad, you apologize it was so cringe e
22:59
Speaker 1: all of it. And then also Danna, they have really
23:03
Speaker 1: showed us very little of her um and what they
23:07
Speaker 1: have shown it's it's like I can't figure her out yet,
23:11
Speaker 1: but I have seen that even I feel like Heather
23:14
Speaker 1: said it to her this past episode where she was like,
23:16
Speaker 1: don't step up to jet, you know, like, if you
23:19
Speaker 1: want to be here, these are the rules. Just do
23:22
Speaker 1: you think that there's going to be a part, you know,
23:24
Speaker 1: without any spoilers, where we are going to see Dana
23:27
Speaker 1: come into her own and she's going to get more.
23:31
Speaker 1: She going to continue, you know, having to follow the rules. Well,
23:35
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the season Dana finally
23:38
Speaker 1: realizes she can have a voice and come forward and
23:41
Speaker 1: see what she's really thinking. But yeah, she was um.
23:44
Speaker 1: She was told to downplay, you know, her feelings, which
23:48
Speaker 1: I thought that was you know, that was so cringey
23:51
Speaker 1: when Heather told her to do that. It's like like
23:54
Speaker 1: it's like people want the friends up to just stay
23:57
Speaker 1: silent and stay down. And the point is, you know,
24:00
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be real self, and Danna wanted to
24:03
Speaker 1: bring some things to life but was made to feel
24:05
Speaker 1: that she couldn't. But yeah, I think towards the end
24:06
Speaker 1: of the season, Sweetheart, Danna does have an opinion, but
24:10
Speaker 1: it took her a minute to be able to voice
24:12
Speaker 1: that opinion the guest. The guest like she was trying
24:18
Speaker 1: to push your down. Right, don't have a voice. Don't
24:21
Speaker 1: call Jen out because that's why I had or chooses
24:23
Speaker 1: to do, Like, oh, I'm just going to support Jen's toxic,
24:26
Speaker 1: but that's why she's getting paid for. Right is to
24:29
Speaker 1: have a voice. But also, who doesn't love a friend
24:33
Speaker 1: like I personally when I was on the show, I
24:36
Speaker 1: feel like you're the same camera. If a friend up
24:38
Speaker 1: came on and wanted to create drama, it makes your
24:41
Speaker 1: life easier, so much easier. Like I'm thrilled, and I'm like,
24:44
Speaker 1: if you're not even old time, you're willing to do
24:46
Speaker 1: this like yes, like it's a good thing. So I
24:52
Speaker 1: can't believe, especially having such a small cast, that they
24:55
Speaker 1: would really just want to push people aside. But that's
24:58
Speaker 1: kind of making me wonder a little bit about her.
25:01
Speaker 1: Heather and Meredith and well, you know, we met Heather
25:05
Speaker 1: at brovocon and she seemed like we had a good
25:07
Speaker 1: time with her. She was super sweet, super nice. But
25:09
Speaker 1: the Heather that we're seeing right now, she's just I
25:11
Speaker 1: don't know if she's just having a bad season. Is
25:13
Speaker 1: this her true colors? It's very confusing. What are your
25:16
Speaker 1: thoughts on Whitney and Heather's friendship. I love Winny. I
25:21
Speaker 1: think she's been a very good friend. What do you
25:23
Speaker 1: saw from Heather like, don't say anything. I'm gonna bring
25:25
Speaker 1: you down. I'm gonna control you. I don't want you
25:28
Speaker 1: to step up and say anything. There's like some control
25:30
Speaker 1: things going on. And it feels similar sometimes to gender myself.
25:34
Speaker 1: Where Heather was good with Whitney when Whitney was quiet
25:38
Speaker 1: and conforming and agreeing with everything she said, and now
25:42
Speaker 1: that Whinney has her own opinion and it's sort of
25:44
Speaker 1: standing not sort of Whinney's standing out. She's gone through
25:47
Speaker 1: a lot, she's becoming her own person, she's forming her
25:50
Speaker 1: own opinion. Now, that's when the friendship started. To go sideways.
25:53
Speaker 1: So you know, they're all good if they can control
25:56
Speaker 1: the narrative. That makes sense. That makes so much sense, really,
26:00
Speaker 1: m And now I have to ask kind of it's
26:12
Speaker 1: a kind of a classless question, but you they talk
26:15
Speaker 1: about it a lot on Salt Lake So I just
26:19
Speaker 1: I'm seeing your background. I'm seeing like even your little
26:23
Speaker 1: our zoom nugget. Are you the richest Salt Lake City?
26:28
Speaker 1: You know you didn't? Uh? You know, I have seen
26:32
Speaker 1: everyone's financials, but um, you know, Lisa's always sweet says
26:36
Speaker 1: you have the most beautiful house of all of us. Um,
26:38
Speaker 1: I do want to add that I am self made.
26:41
Speaker 1: My dad and my mother were raised in dilligence and
26:44
Speaker 1: came here with nothing. So I like to share that
26:46
Speaker 1: because I don't want to ever obviously brag, but I
26:49
Speaker 1: have worked hard along with my husband to get where
26:52
Speaker 1: I am today. So I haven't seen everyone's financials, but
26:55
Speaker 1: I think I'm definitely one of the I'll take I'll
26:58
Speaker 1: take it as yes, what kind of does just our
27:00
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, I'm not gonna brag me. Yes, what
27:03
Speaker 1: kind of business are you in? Um, I'm in the
27:06
Speaker 1: beauty industry. I own multiple hair salons called lunatic French salons. Um.
27:10
Speaker 1: I am an owner of a cosmetology school pub much
27:13
Speaker 1: of the school um and um yeah, and I also
27:17
Speaker 1: own a beauty supply called Urban Beauty, where we distribute
27:20
Speaker 1: high end beauty products. So yeah, see, I want to
27:22
Speaker 1: see all of this. I hope you have a snowfl
27:24
Speaker 1: next year so you can start to uncover your and
27:27
Speaker 1: then tell us about your husband. Because I met you
27:30
Speaker 1: guys at the horse show, and you guys were both
27:32
Speaker 1: so nice and such the fact that both of y'all
27:34
Speaker 1: were there to support your daughter riding like I loved it,
27:37
Speaker 1: so thank you. Yeah, she can't shake us. We follow
27:40
Speaker 1: her everywhere. We have darling little girls. Elector, that's eleven
27:43
Speaker 1: years old. My husband is a hairdresser too, which is
27:46
Speaker 1: so crazy. I met him in a hair salon when
27:48
Speaker 1: I was nineteen and um, when I was twenty. When
27:52
Speaker 1: we started dating, he was twenty four. And you know,
27:54
Speaker 1: he's just a very down to earth, humble guy. He
27:57
Speaker 1: works really hard and here he was just like buff,
28:00
Speaker 1: We're just hairdresser, and I'm like, wow, this guy is
28:02
Speaker 1: so shy. And at that time, if you were a hairdresser,
28:06
Speaker 1: you know there was no straight hairdressers and felt like
28:09
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, there's no need to worry
28:11
Speaker 1: because this guy would never even give me the time
28:13
Speaker 1: of day. And then I started working at the same
28:15
Speaker 1: salon and we fell in love from there and we
28:18
Speaker 1: were very young. We got married young. Um we started out,
28:21
Speaker 1: um six years as hairdressers, opened our own salon together,
28:25
Speaker 1: uh six years later than got in the school industry.
28:28
Speaker 1: We have that franchise company of lunatic frings that we
28:31
Speaker 1: opened together. My husband grew up with horses doing uh
28:35
Speaker 1: you know, his dad had a ranch and he grew
28:37
Speaker 1: up just a good old boy, hard worker. And UM,
28:41
Speaker 1: my daughter, I think got exposed to the horse world
28:44
Speaker 1: because of him. He and his dad bought her a
28:46
Speaker 1: little pony when she was two and a half and then, um,
28:49
Speaker 1: you know that's the beginning of her dream, which she
28:52
Speaker 1: wants to write in the Olympics. So she's a little equestrian.
28:55
Speaker 1: We follow her like you around to all these horse shows. Um.
28:59
Speaker 1: We now manage our multiple businesses together. Obviously we don't
29:03
Speaker 1: do hair anymore. And you know we're just partners in life.
29:06
Speaker 1: We're partners in business and partners in in raising our
29:09
Speaker 1: little girl together, And how does he feel about the filming?
29:12
Speaker 1: You know, I think he loves it. He thinks I
29:14
Speaker 1: was made for this, which is so funny. A lot
29:16
Speaker 1: of people say, oh my gosh, Angie is so sweet,
29:18
Speaker 1: She's so kind. I'm worried about her going into this show.
29:21
Speaker 1: And my husband always says, do not worry about Angie,
29:24
Speaker 1: which made for this. He can hold her own. So um.
29:27
Speaker 1: You know, he's happy and supports me doing it and
29:31
Speaker 1: has had my back and he's excited for me. Did
29:33
Speaker 1: he film very much this season? A little bit. He
29:36
Speaker 1: was at Sharif's, you know, the guy's dinner that was brutal.
29:39
Speaker 1: That dinner was brutal, brutal to watch, brutal to watch.
29:45
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so awkward. Yeah. I think
29:48
Speaker 1: some people love seeing the husbands and other people use
29:51
Speaker 1: it as their snack time to you know, use arresturants.
29:56
Speaker 1: I mean, the Seth conversation is just yeah, Seth in person.
30:01
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say, meeting both of them. Seth
30:05
Speaker 1: has a lot of personality. I know sometimes people feel
30:08
Speaker 1: he's created. When you say meeting both of them, do
30:10
Speaker 1: you mean meeting Meredith and so compared compared to narrative.
30:15
Speaker 1: He has a personality, right, you know, he's the CEO
30:19
Speaker 1: of fun over her because it's like in a relationship
30:23
Speaker 1: there's opposites, and you know, Seth has a lot of personality.
30:26
Speaker 1: He can hold his own in a social setting. When
30:29
Speaker 1: he was at my house for Sharik's party, he was
30:31
Speaker 1: very friendly. He was a lot of fun, very interesting
30:34
Speaker 1: down earth conversations. But I know on film he says
30:38
Speaker 1: and does some cringing things, So personally, I was shocked
30:40
Speaker 1: when I met him, And you know, he was nice
30:43
Speaker 1: to actually have a conversation with, and I can see
30:45
Speaker 1: where he'd be the balance in a social setting for her,
30:48
Speaker 1: because Meredith doesn't really have a whole lot to say.
30:51
Speaker 1: Is she a whole lot of fun? No? Not really?
30:55
Speaker 1: Would you have? She was sweet Meredith. She was talked
31:01
Speaker 1: about Tama. We don't want to hear sweet the house.
31:04
Speaker 1: Well okay, well yeah, she's fine. Um. I think because
31:07
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Lisa, there's never a chance for her
31:10
Speaker 1: and I to form a friendship. She was nice to
31:12
Speaker 1: me when I came on, and suddenly I just filled
31:15
Speaker 1: this shift with her, and obviously her opinion about the
31:17
Speaker 1: dream being poured on my head being fun and funny,
31:19
Speaker 1: and uh, now I see what kind of person she is.
31:22
Speaker 1: So her and I are very different, um, because I
31:25
Speaker 1: wouldn't find out funny and second of all, uh yeah,
31:28
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call her fun. She can be nice, she
31:31
Speaker 1: hasn't been nice to me if if I look at
31:33
Speaker 1: you know, how she's talking about the dreamstuff. She's always
31:36
Speaker 1: so serious, for sure, but now saying never because the
31:39
Speaker 1: dynamics on this crazy franchise, and I thought we were
31:43
Speaker 1: off to a great start, and then after you know,
31:46
Speaker 1: I had Lisa's back, the dynamics shifted, so things are
31:50
Speaker 1: not you know, I wouldn't say we are the best
31:52
Speaker 1: of friends by any means. And then I have a question,
31:55
Speaker 1: because this is a lot from our listeners. They are
31:58
Speaker 1: constantly saying, why is it that on Beverly Do you
32:01
Speaker 1: watch any other franchises? So why on Beverly Hills was
32:05
Speaker 1: there so much discussion about Erica and her husband and
32:10
Speaker 1: all the things playing out in the press and constantly
32:13
Speaker 1: the women. I mean, for at least two seasons, the
32:16
Speaker 1: women have just been on her about everything that's come up.
32:20
Speaker 1: We're barely seeing anything with gen Sha. We're solely seeing
32:24
Speaker 1: her talking about starting to take antidepressants her mental state.
32:28
Speaker 1: But I don't really see any of you guys having
32:32
Speaker 1: those tougher conversations. Was that something because you all were
32:35
Speaker 1: just being respectful of the situation, or is it because
32:39
Speaker 1: of fear or what do you think it is? Well,
32:42
Speaker 1: first of all, I think because she was telling the friends,
32:45
Speaker 1: I'm innocent, I'm innocent. Um, when you have history with someone,
32:49
Speaker 1: the right thing to do is have their back and
32:53
Speaker 1: believe them, even though you might be questioning in your
32:56
Speaker 1: mind is this true? Is she capable of something like this?
33:00
Speaker 1: It was easy for Danna, I think because Dana had
33:02
Speaker 1: zero history with her, so Danna could just you know,
33:05
Speaker 1: speak her mind, speak her mind. But with the girls,
33:08
Speaker 1: I think people were on eggshells. But you know, I
33:10
Speaker 1: think by the end of the season, you see people,
33:13
Speaker 1: even though she still has not pled guilty, based on
33:16
Speaker 1: some of her actions, the girls are starting to question
33:18
Speaker 1: her more and um starting to question her innocence more.
33:23
Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of fear surrounding by
33:25
Speaker 1: surrounded by Jen. I hate to say this, but I
33:27
Speaker 1: think there's fear surrounding Jen and people's relationships with her
33:31
Speaker 1: because nobody wants this person like screaming in their face
33:34
Speaker 1: and calling them out and calling them every name in
33:37
Speaker 1: the book, and you know, going at them. And that's
33:40
Speaker 1: what I see with Meredith and Heather. It's like, are
33:42
Speaker 1: you guys afraid of her? Like, why do you condone
33:44
Speaker 1: her behavior. I'm not afraid of jen Um because I'm
33:47
Speaker 1: a respected woman. Ladies. You know I'm not Um. You know,
33:52
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of her because I have the truth
33:54
Speaker 1: on my side and I have facts on my side,
33:57
Speaker 1: and so that's where it's different for me. But I
34:00
Speaker 1: think there's been a lot of fear that people don't
34:02
Speaker 1: want to film with her and have her screaming in
34:04
Speaker 1: their face or be on her bad side. That must
34:07
Speaker 1: not feel good, right, just to know that if I
34:11
Speaker 1: say what I'm thinking, they've seen what she's capable, They've
34:14
Speaker 1: they've seen how she gets in people's faces, they've seen
34:16
Speaker 1: how she goes to people, and I think it creates
34:19
Speaker 1: some fear in the back of their mind that like,
34:21
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in this position, so I'm
34:23
Speaker 1: just not going to poke the bear. I'm going to
34:24
Speaker 1: go along with her. I feel like she's going to
34:26
Speaker 1: reactivate her Twitter again just to let us all have
34:29
Speaker 1: it after after this podcast, right, I think that she
34:35
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I didn't watch that interview she
34:37
Speaker 1: did because I'm not going to listen to anything that
34:39
Speaker 1: negative about myself. But it sounds like she was negative
34:41
Speaker 1: about you girls, and oh yes, like what I like spots,
34:49
Speaker 1: but I mean the two pussies And I'm sorry me
34:52
Speaker 1: being called wonderbread is what I got sent by texts,
34:55
Speaker 1: like people kept saying, you're Greek. Why is she calling
34:57
Speaker 1: you wonderbread button? Okay, I just that's what she does.
35:01
Speaker 1: That's what makes her feel better. I spend time working
35:03
Speaker 1: on my brand and building my own brand, and I
35:05
Speaker 1: don't even drink her poison or listen to that stuff
35:07
Speaker 1: because it's just too much and nobody believes her. Everybody
35:10
Speaker 1: knows the truth. I was actually shocked that Shannon posted
35:13
Speaker 1: a picture with her on her Instagram the other dance
35:16
Speaker 1: like what she text me and said. I have actually
35:18
Speaker 1: talked her since then. She's like I met Jen Shaw,
35:20
Speaker 1: I go. I know, I saw, and she she was
35:23
Speaker 1: really nice to go. She was nice to us too,
35:25
Speaker 1: but be careful to be careful. Um, is there anything
35:29
Speaker 1: because I know we have to wrap, but is there
35:31
Speaker 1: anything you should tease for us that the rest of
35:34
Speaker 1: the season or any juicy nuggets. Well, it's gonna continue
35:39
Speaker 1: with high drama. There's a lot of you know, um
35:42
Speaker 1: issues with friendships. The group's very divided, I think with
35:47
Speaker 1: everything coming up with season finale. Uh, there's a lot
35:51
Speaker 1: building up. There's a lot of people waiting in line too,
35:53
Speaker 1: you know in a congolance, you know, the want to
35:56
Speaker 1: want to hold Jen accountable and touched her about their issues.
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Speaker 1: There's other things in the friend groups that are building
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Speaker 1: up where there's drama that's going to be coming out.
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Speaker 1: It's it's it's pretty much, I think, on fire from
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Speaker 1: here on out the end. So it was like getting
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Speaker 1: dump just sort of started all the drama, and I
36:15
Speaker 1: think the fire is going to continue, especially through the
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Speaker 1: rest of San Diego and on through the season finale.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, refresh my memory. You guys do not
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Speaker 1: find out that Jen plays guilty until after you finished wrapped.
36:27
Speaker 1: You wrapped that was in July and we wrapped in April. Well,
36:31
Speaker 1: I hope to god the production came back and got
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Speaker 1: your guys expressions after finding out that she is guilty
36:38
Speaker 1: or pleading guilty. Um, that would be my wish it
36:42
Speaker 1: was a shocker. It was a shocker. I'm not gonna lie.
36:44
Speaker 1: I was. I was actually so many emotions. I was sad,
36:48
Speaker 1: I was mad, I was you got sad? Mad? I
36:52
Speaker 1: felt lied to. I was sad for her family, for
36:55
Speaker 1: her sons. I mean, as a mother, how can you
36:57
Speaker 1: not feel bad? That's the last thing, right, I guess.
37:00
Speaker 1: I always wanted to believe in the good side of her,
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Speaker 1: that she was the person she told me she was,
37:06
Speaker 1: she was the person that I was sitting here with
37:08
Speaker 1: at my dining table until five in the morning. I
37:10
Speaker 1: wanted to believe she was a person. So there was
37:13
Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment. And and then where do people
37:16
Speaker 1: find you so they can follow you and get to
37:19
Speaker 1: know more about you as well? Oh thanks for asking.
37:22
Speaker 1: Angie catsin Avis with the k k A. T Angie
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Speaker 1: catsin Avis is my handle, and I think I hope
37:29
Speaker 1: you get to see more of me. I don't want to,
37:31
Speaker 1: you know, I know, well some peoples wanted a friend
37:34
Speaker 1: of like, dumb yourself down, don't say anything. I'm being
37:37
Speaker 1: my real self and reacting in a way that I
37:39
Speaker 1: would in real life. And it's been fun and it's
37:41
Speaker 1: been a major learning experience and the craziest thing I've
37:45
Speaker 1: ever done. Well, we are predicting that big things are
37:48
Speaker 1: to come for you. You are excited to keep watching.
37:51
Speaker 1: And thank you for joining the twats. Thank you for
37:55
Speaker 1: having me. It was anor and I love chatting with
37:57
Speaker 1: you guys. And I'll see you at thermal in a
37:59
Speaker 1: couple weeks. Well when you come out, because you guys,
38:02
Speaker 1: you know when you met you were literally half a
38:05
Speaker 1: mile from my house and sat sorry sorry, fighting myself
38:10
Speaker 1: over next year, next time we're gonna be going out. Okay,
38:12
Speaker 1: that sounds amazing. I'd love to spend time with Yes, nay,
38:16
Speaker 1: thank you and you have a great day. Happy, happy holidays,
38:19
Speaker 1: Happy holidays, guy than Tamil. We loved her. I can't
38:23
Speaker 1: wait to get more details. But I have to tell
38:25
Speaker 1: you something so random. So I went to tag Cove
38:29
Speaker 1: and our our post from our Instagram, and I went
38:34
Speaker 1: to tag Robin as well. She has tagging turned off.
38:38
Speaker 1: Robin Robin does Robin dickon. Oh my god, So that
38:43
Speaker 1: must mean that she's getting so much happy like for
38:46
Speaker 1: you to turn tagging off like Andy does it because
38:48
Speaker 1: he just doesn't want Oh he doesn't have tagging off.
38:51
Speaker 1: He has messaging me she has tagging off. That's like
38:56
Speaker 1: you know, a housewife is getting the vis I honestly
38:59
Speaker 1: didn't even know that you could do that. I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: I obviously I guess she could, but I never even
39:04
Speaker 1: looked into it. So no one can tag her because
39:06
Speaker 1: she's probably tagger in the stories, but we couldn't do it.
39:12
Speaker 1: So Robin, you know ebbs and flows. Believe me. I
39:15
Speaker 1: think I've had to turn tagging off before as well.
39:17
Speaker 1: So I've had to turn comment and off before, and
39:21
Speaker 1: I think I have to turn comment in off in
39:23
Speaker 1: a few scenes in season seven teams. I'm gonna have
39:26
Speaker 1: to turn commenting off for TAM's behavior. Yes, we might
39:29
Speaker 1: have to turn the podcast off because of my behavior,
39:32
Speaker 1: just saying oh my gosh, well Tam, I hope that
39:35
Speaker 1: you feel better. Went off to the Vegas. I gotta
39:40
Speaker 1: get medication now, I have to. I have to be
39:41
Speaker 1: in Vegas on Thursday. In my throat literally feels like
39:45
Speaker 1: razor blades. Well, I'm glad I didn't see you then,
39:48
Speaker 1: so but next week maybe we can. If you're feeling better,
39:51
Speaker 1: we can see each other in person for one of
39:53
Speaker 1: the pods and talk to you soon. We got Miami
39:56
Speaker 1: coming up. You guys, don't forget to watch that. It
39:59
Speaker 1: comes out on December. So excited about that. Okay, have
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Speaker 1: a good day. By m