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Trash TV · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: It's kind of a free for all. What I'm on.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm like that and uh sorry, not sorry
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things. Everything's so blasted serious. I just
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  Speaker 1: I don't I'm not in a serious mindset tonight. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in a stupid mindset, but just I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of uh on pause with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of serious stuff right now. Does that make sense
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  Speaker 1: that I mean, well, yeah, I know with you, but
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  Speaker 1: not with me. I'm I'm too serious most of the time,
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  Speaker 1: and and today I just I'm not I'm not feeling
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  Speaker 1: it as they say.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good, and.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's there's lots of entertainment wise. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you saw or not the Access Hollywood got the
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  Speaker 1: Ax over there at NBC. Mario Lopez might be looking
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  Speaker 1: for a gig, so yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's gone by the wayside now. And they canceled
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  Speaker 1: a couple of other shows too, but I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: what they were because, oh, what's his name? My man, Combo?
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  Speaker 1: What's the guy's name is Macambo? I think no Combo Coambo, Orkaramo. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: see the fact that I can't say his name tells
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  Speaker 1: you why it's getting canceled. Nobody watched it. He was
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  Speaker 1: I saw a couple of episodes. He was a talk
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  Speaker 1: show guy who tried to be very uh touchy, feeling
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  Speaker 1: intellectually superior, let's get to the root of this problem,
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  Speaker 1: and he just he was. It didn't work. Caaramo, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I looked him. Yeah, he's as They canceled him and
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  Speaker 1: the Steve will Go Show. Finally, mercifully, the Steve Wilco
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  Speaker 1: Show got canceled.
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  Speaker 2: I have that that's been on forever though.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was Remember how he started. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember how Steve were He was one of Springer's bouncers
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  Speaker 1: up there on the stage and uh, and somehow managed
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  Speaker 1: to turn that into his own show. I don't know how.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what some producer was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: It's been on for a long time, right, and it has.
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  Speaker 1: Been on for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: Springer was the best. I love Springer, and.
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  Speaker 1: It's no Jerry. Springer was just the worst possible. There's
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  Speaker 1: no way, no way that some of them were real.
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  Speaker 1: I know because I one of somebody I know was
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  Speaker 1: on there. But there's no way all of these if
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  Speaker 1: if those people were all real. Those situations and those
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  Speaker 1: stories were all real. America would be one big trailer park.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. Oh my gosh, I'll know.
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  Speaker 2: I will never forget.
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  Speaker 3: It was this woman and this dude, and this woman's like,
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  Speaker 3: he left me for somebody he met online and here's
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  Speaker 3: her picture right, and she's like she's he's never even
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  Speaker 3: seen her before.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like I love her, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, her name's Jenny or Jenny come out
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  Speaker 3: and out walks some.
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  Speaker 1: Long some guy.
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  Speaker 2: It was guy who was a little person.
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  Speaker 1: Great. I think I know I've shared this story before,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I might have told you. I had
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  Speaker 1: somebody I used to work with in this business who decided,
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  Speaker 1: way before it was trendy, that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: identify as a female as a guy. And uh. And
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  Speaker 1: we had lunch and he said, look, i'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be gone for a while. When I come back,
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  Speaker 1: some things are going to be different. And I said, so,
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  Speaker 1: I said, well you're gonna. Are you trying to tell
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  Speaker 1: me you're gay? He goes, no, why would you he
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  Speaker 1: was like, he was offended. No, why would you think
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  Speaker 1: I was gay? Well, you're wearing like a weird to
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  Speaker 1: pay pink belt, and there's pennies in your penny loafers.
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of thought, you know, I'm not being funny.
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  Speaker 1: This is those Those were the things I looked at
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  Speaker 1: and thought, but I didn't care. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he did a great job on the air, and that's
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  Speaker 1: all I cared about. But he said, no, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna have some surgery and when I come back,
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  Speaker 1: I will be a woman. And I thought, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me. So he had the
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  Speaker 1: surgery and came back and honestly, to me, he much
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  Speaker 1: like Jenner. He still looked like him in address. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see a woman. And it was hard for me
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  Speaker 1: to not say him or he when I talked about him,
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  Speaker 1: because he returned to his job. It was radio. There
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  Speaker 1: was no Internet at the time and sow you know,
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  Speaker 1: there were no pictures floating about. So when he went
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  Speaker 1: on the air, he was on the air like this, okay, yeah, hey,
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  Speaker 1: hey hey, and then and then the microphone would go
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  Speaker 1: off and he would talk like Michael Jackson, and I
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  Speaker 1: just I it was hard to deal with. It was
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  Speaker 1: his voice.
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  Speaker 2: It was going back and forth a mental it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was just it was difficult for me because you know,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm feeling a fit like I'm a fin by
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  Speaker 1: saying him, or because I'm on the air, I'm referring
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  Speaker 1: to him as a hymn. But then when the microphone's off,
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to refer And that's hard. Man. I just
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  Speaker 1: I was bad at it, and I admit that. So
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  Speaker 1: he ended up leaving the business, not necessarily voluntarily. And
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  Speaker 1: one morning I get off the air and I went
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  Speaker 1: in the conference room where we had the coffee pot
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  Speaker 1: in television, and I got myself some coffee and look
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  Speaker 1: at the television and sitting there on the Jerry Springer Show,
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  Speaker 1: there is my former colleague. Was he really? Was?
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  Speaker 2: He really?
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  Speaker 1: And her exactly? That's see and uh uh uh he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was there with with with with with his new girlfriend,
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't get. Okay, you as a man, you
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  Speaker 1: could have but and but you become a woman to
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  Speaker 1: get a girlfriend. I did, she did?
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  Speaker 3: Did they I identify as a lesbian?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't keep up. So anyway, after
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  Speaker 1: after talking to that, and I'm just my mouth is open,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going trying to comprehend what I'm seeing here, that
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  Speaker 1: this guy who now considers himself a woman is there
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  Speaker 1: with his girlfriend. There's the wound. Now let's rub the
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  Speaker 1: salt in as as Jerry says. As Jerry says, we
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  Speaker 1: want to bring out your ex wife and son. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: So you bring out the ex wife and son and
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  Speaker 1: they do the typical Springer fuss and fight and scream
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  Speaker 1: and stumping and all that stuff. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I never understood it. Oh man, I never understood.
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  Speaker 2: It that he was married.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, yeah, married with a kid.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that would do to a child.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not I don't care whatever. But that's
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  Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot to process.
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  Speaker 1: I would I would have trouble if I were married
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  Speaker 1: to someone and they decided that they were homosexual. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh man, I must be really really terrible
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  Speaker 1: at all. But to to have the person you're married
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  Speaker 1: to just decide to become another gender, that's like homosexual
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  Speaker 1: times ten, that's that that would hurt, just crazy. And
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  Speaker 1: then then to become another gender and then go get
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  Speaker 1: a woman, Oh my.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, did he so did his Did he get a
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  Speaker 3: full sex change.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah yeah, things remove things, ad it. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And back then I think he went to Switzerland because
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  Speaker 1: you know, this was you it wasn't happening here. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: so I think he went to Switzerland for this wow
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  Speaker 1: and uh it just that just you talk about messing
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  Speaker 1: me up. So that's the one Jerry Springer guest that
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  Speaker 1: I can say was a real guest. The rest of
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  Speaker 1: them all paid actors, had to be, had to be.
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  Speaker 2: They were all real life.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, you can't break up my family. I was just
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  Speaker 1: talking to my uncle daddy, Grandpaul the other day.
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  Speaker 2: But what great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just just terrible stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You left me for your cousin.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she's a good kisser, and then they would throw
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  Speaker 3: stuff at each other.
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  Speaker 1: It was when these came about. You know, the talk
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  Speaker 1: shows changed in the seventies. They were chat shows, much
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  Speaker 1: like the British chat shows. You had the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Paul Dixon's, the Bob Braun's, Virginia Graham's, uh and
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  Speaker 1: you know the nighttime stuff with Carson and people would
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  Speaker 1: come out and talk about stuff. The eighties is when
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  Speaker 1: this concept really came about, and even Oprah, even the
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  Speaker 1: Great Oprah was doing trash TV when she started. I
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  Speaker 1: don't you're not old enough to remember this, but Oprah
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  Speaker 1: used to have stuff like this is uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: Thelma Louise and her husband Billy Joe Jimbob, and they're
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  Speaker 1: raising their one year old child to be racist. And
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  Speaker 1: there's the baby. He's like in a little clan robe
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  Speaker 1: with the pointy hat. And I'm not making this up.
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  Speaker 1: This was a real episode, man. This was Oprah before
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  Speaker 1: she became so intellectually superior to everyone.
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  Speaker 2: After that, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: We had Morton Downey Junior, who he had a cigarette
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  Speaker 1: going at all times and he yelled at everyone. Phil Donahue,
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  Speaker 1: another intellectually superior lefty who ended up married to Danny
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  Speaker 1: Thomas's daughter Marlowe. And Phil would walk around and he
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  Speaker 1: put his hand on his head as he walked around
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  Speaker 1: the stair and and we're trying to we've got a caller, caller,
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  Speaker 1: you say what? And then he'd like point up at
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  Speaker 1: the ceiling as the ca came through the speakers to
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  Speaker 1: ask a question. And and people were in love with Donnie,
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  Speaker 1: you like he was just the second, uh, the second
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  Speaker 1: coming of truth on our wisdom and sincerity and up.
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  Speaker 1: The shows they just they just morphed into the worst
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  Speaker 1: possible things. We got to find the worst possible people,
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  Speaker 1: the worst possible stories, the worst and it just overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot all the ones like Springer and the ones
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  Speaker 3: where they would have uh Neo Nazis on or oh
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  Speaker 3: yeah kk members. I remember those as a kid. They
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  Speaker 3: were it's just the worst. But I couldn't stop watching.
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  Speaker 1: If it weren't from Morton Downey Jr. I never would
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  Speaker 1: have seen my first skinhead with an afro. That was
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  Speaker 1: that was. That was one of those things, not a thing,
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  Speaker 1: not a thing, you gentlemen, you call yourself skinheads. And
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  Speaker 1: the one guy's got like this big giant white boy afro.
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  Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Dan ain't right but anyway, uh, Steve Walko's going by
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  Speaker 1: the wayside. Now. If we can start getting rid of
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  Speaker 1: some of these judge shows will be in business. Because
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  Speaker 1: there's that I see.
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  Speaker 2: I did see a lot of those are completely fake.
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  Speaker 1: There's one that's got three judges. I've never watched. It's
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  Speaker 1: two women and a man, and I just saw some
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  Speaker 1: of that maybe a week ago. And the man judge
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  Speaker 1: on there, I like him because he was a cut
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  Speaker 1: to the chase kind of guy. This guy's a liar.
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  Speaker 1: Give her all the money she wants. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, good guy. But again, you know, what started
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  Speaker 1: as Judge Wapner and Judge Judy became this whole dynasty
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  Speaker 1: of Judge shows on TV, most of which are highly unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm just you know, I'm tired. I
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  Speaker 1: wish we had something new, something different, something something out
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  Speaker 1: of the box. Uh, But we're just we're you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like Dick Wolf does tonighttime TV talk shows did
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  Speaker 1: to daytime TV. We just got inundated and now now
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  Speaker 1: let's hope they begin to fall. I mentioned to you
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  Speaker 1: off the air yesterday. American Dad returned to the airways
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  Speaker 1: on Fox on Sunday night, proving to you and me
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  Speaker 1: in the world why Seth McFarland is superior to Trey Parker,
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  Speaker 1: Because when American Dad came back, it's like they were
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  Speaker 1: never off the air. They just took up where they
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  Speaker 1: left off. Everything's the same, the characters are the same,
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  Speaker 1: the opening, Good Morning USA, same open, everything like they
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  Speaker 1: hadn't left the air and they've been off for what
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  Speaker 1: four years? So that was great what they did with
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: King of the Hill in trying to bring it back,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody's older now and Bobby's an adult and all
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Plus they only streamed it, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't actually put it on Fox Animation Sunday Nights. That
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  Speaker 1: King of the Hill would have been funnier just bringing
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  Speaker 1: them back and making them all the same. Bobby's still
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  Speaker 1: a kid, Min is still his little girlfriend next door
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  Speaker 1: and or not men the men was mom what was
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  Speaker 1: her name? Con and just let them be in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. Hank Hill would have a blast with twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, but instead they tried to age them and
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  Speaker 1: that was a mistake. That's you know, cartoons go forever.
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  Speaker 1: That's why Bart Simpson's been an eleven year old kid
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  Speaker 1: for what thirty eight years now? Don't change things. But
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  Speaker 1: Stan Smith was still the Stan Smith I love, and
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  Speaker 1: Roger still the Roger I love. And welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: American Dad. Jane Fonda opened her mouth and therefore something
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  Speaker 1: stupid came out. Are you a Jane Fonder person? You
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  Speaker 1: know who she is?
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  Speaker 2: I know who she is.
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  Speaker 1: Her dad, Her dad was known to be a pretty
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  Speaker 1: nice guy. Henry Fonda, he did that. The last big
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  Speaker 1: thing he did was on Golden Pond with Catherine Hepburn.
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  Speaker 1: You known and shining, and he was known to be
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  Speaker 1: a good guy. Did a lot of stuff with Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Stewart in his younger days westerns, and and he did
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  Speaker 1: Cheaper by the Dozen. No, it was not she. It
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  Speaker 1: was Yours Mind in Ours with Lucy Oball, which was
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite old movies. Jane Fonda, on the
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  Speaker 1: other hand, major lefty, nutcase Vietnam protester, just just just negative,
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  Speaker 1: so negative. Again. We talked yesterday about Barbara streisand at
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  Speaker 1: the Academy Awards and the fact that she she sang
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  Speaker 1: and she came out she honored Robert Redford, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people thought, you know, that's that's nice. They
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  Speaker 1: did the way we were together, and uh, and she
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  Speaker 1: paid tribute to Robert Redford. Well, Jane Fonda apparently got
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  Speaker 1: a little miffed about this and wanted to know. She
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  Speaker 1: was on entertainment tonight. She said, you know, why is
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  Speaker 1: she out there doing this? I mean, she only made
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  Speaker 1: one movie with him. I made four. Really, Jane Fonda,
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  Speaker 1: really two words? Shut up? Really, that's just that I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man, I have not. I've never liked her.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing she's done that I liked. And the fact
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  Speaker 1: that I can remember the way we were with streisand
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  Speaker 1: and Redford and I can't remember any of the four
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  Speaker 1: movies you did with him might tell you why she
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  Speaker 1: was the one up there paying homage to Robert Redford.
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  Speaker 1: I was also a Robert Redford fan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he made some good movies. Do you ever see Reds?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? I liked Reds. I liked this property condemned. That's
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: an old Was that Natalie not Natalie Wood? Was Nallywood?
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  Speaker 1: Played little girl?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember No No.
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  Speaker 1: Stop That he was working for a railroad. He was
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: there to shut the place down. That was a good
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  Speaker 1: one I loved. I loved Barefoot in the Park and
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  Speaker 1: one of my ultimate friendship movies. This is how I
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: judge a friend. If a guy is not into Butch
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  Speaker 1: Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, he doesn't understand what friendship is.
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  Speaker 1: To me. That Butch and Sundance is the definition of friendship.
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  Speaker 1: To me, they are the Damon and Pitheus of the
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  Speaker 1: Old West. As far as I'm concerned that the ending
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  Speaker 1: of that movie, when they came out of there and
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  Speaker 1: the freeze frame and the gunshots and uh yeah, love
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  Speaker 1: that movie absolutely so yeah big Robert Redford Fann