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Hour Two | Deep Dive: Van Buren’s First Start + Pelicans Move On from Willie Green · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: It's eight am here on Monday, November seventeenth. Today and
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  Speaker 2: hour two of today's show, we'll continue to discuss LSU
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go where.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back again, Hour number two OTV here
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  Speaker 4: live from the Raising Caines Studio. Again, it was LSU
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  Speaker 4: twenty three Arkansas twenty two. LSU gets to six and
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  Speaker 4: four on the season, three and four in sec play
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  Speaker 4: with a chance to have a five hundred record. If
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  Speaker 4: you're able to go on the road and pull off
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  Speaker 4: an upset against Oklahoma. We'll get there. Whenever that happens.
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  Speaker 4: But now we'll go back to some of the Arkansas
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  Speaker 4: film and Matthews.
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  Speaker 5: Ready to go. I think, yeah, absolutely, we're ready to go.
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  Speaker 5: So we we love breaking down some film around here.
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  Speaker 5: So if you are, you know, if you got a
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  Speaker 5: chance to pull up the old YouTube and watch along.
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  Speaker 1: If you're doing your car, just pull over, pull off
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  Speaker 1: to the side, shut up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: If you're at work, tell your bass watch it tape bruh.
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  Speaker 5: Make sure it's street legal whatever you're doing out there.
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  Speaker 4: Don't have a DVD player like Flint had where you
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  Speaker 4: could flip a switch.
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  Speaker 1: And watch it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it can wait. It can wait. You can always
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  Speaker 5: catch this later as well. The text can wait. The
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  Speaker 5: text can wait. So let's go to the film here,
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  Speaker 5: and if you're if you're just listening to radio, we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna we're gonna kind of break it down and Jake's
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  Speaker 5: gonna kind of help us kind of talk through this.
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  Speaker 5: So here's a really nice play. This is a second
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  Speaker 5: quarter eleven thirty nine left.
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  Speaker 1: What we do here.
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  Speaker 5: You could tell that the LSU offensive staff was expecting
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  Speaker 5: a lot of cover two uh, because this is a
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  Speaker 5: straight cover two beater route concept that we're running right here.
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  Speaker 5: So we got a little I must call it a
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  Speaker 5: little wide bunch situation out here. So we got three
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  Speaker 5: receivers to the right in a bunch formation with the
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  Speaker 5: middle guys holding the point. And then we have a
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  Speaker 5: on the X down here we got a nasty split.
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  Speaker 5: What a nasty split means, It's just the wide receiver
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  Speaker 5: is in tight close to the line of scrimmage. What
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to do here is actually get the nasty
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  Speaker 5: split the receiver to chip on the way out, which
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  Speaker 5: again I don't love, but a couple of really nice
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  Speaker 5: things to watch here on display execution from Van Buren
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  Speaker 5: on a believe it's a third down here. So what
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  Speaker 5: we got here is a cover two beater. So what's
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  Speaker 5: gonna happen here is you got two safeties. They're split safeties.
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  Speaker 5: They're gonna get the halves of the field. So Aaron
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  Speaker 5: Anderson is gonna run a basically a snag route. I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna call a snack route, and then the tight end
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  Speaker 5: air trade isn't gonna come and run an OTB route
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  Speaker 5: or over the ball. So what they're gonna do and
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  Speaker 5: OTB route's gonna hold the miclif bench.
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  Speaker 1: Although if you want to call it off the bench.
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  Speaker 5: He's gonna run the off the bench ro out to
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  Speaker 5: hold the miclimbbacker, and then the snag route's gonna hold
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  Speaker 5: the Sam linebacker, and then when the safety gets wide
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  Speaker 5: over the top, what we're gonna have is basically it's
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  Speaker 5: like a a glance post or a little rolled in
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  Speaker 5: like a It's kind of a lazy end route, if
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  Speaker 5: you will.
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  Speaker 1: That's why.
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  Speaker 5: So what we're doing here in cover two, we're holding
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  Speaker 5: the mic linebacker, we're holding the wheel linebacker and hitting
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  Speaker 5: a little lazy post glance post ride over the top
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  Speaker 5: of that, and it works a perfection great call. There's
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  Speaker 5: not a lot of beaters for other like if they
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  Speaker 5: ran quarters right here, I don't know where you're going
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  Speaker 5: with the ball, but they got this a perfect Cover
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  Speaker 5: two beater. I've actually never seen this concept, but look.
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  Speaker 1: Works out to perfection. I don't love this chip down here,
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  Speaker 1: but you know it is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: You can tell that they're they're they're they're really they're
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  Speaker 4: so worried about protection. And when you when you have
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  Speaker 4: a receiver at the bottom of the formation thinking about
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  Speaker 4: chipping an edge rusher, that lets you know just what
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  Speaker 4: they think they can't.
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  Speaker 1: Do and protection.
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  Speaker 5: And I want to show you the second awesome part
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  Speaker 5: on this play that I saw what has l Is shues,
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  Speaker 5: guards and tackles struggled with all season long. Was playing
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  Speaker 5: was blocking up the games, the ets where the where
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  Speaker 5: the defensive lineman crosses, where the defensive tackle goes and
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  Speaker 5: hits the hits. Our left tackle and the defensive end
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  Speaker 5: loops underneath. But I want you to watch our left
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  Speaker 5: guard and our right and our left tackle right here.
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  Speaker 5: Boom passed it off. We've been wanting to see this
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  Speaker 5: all season long, and wait, haven't How many times have
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  Speaker 5: we seen this defensive end loop underneath and the guard
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  Speaker 5: not get back to them and create issues?
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  Speaker 1: Perfect blocked up? Amazing, that's awesome job.
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  Speaker 5: They've been working on it and been working on it,
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  Speaker 5: and it's perfectly executed here on a big play when
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  Speaker 5: you're down.
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  Speaker 1: Good execution. I like to see his foot work a
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  Speaker 1: little bit better.
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  Speaker 5: He's still like he's shuffle shuffle, his feet aren't matching up.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna like college quarterbacks footwork no
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  Speaker 4: matter what tape you want.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's not anything that we ever learned. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we got to get back to react.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, that's that's a portion of the field
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  Speaker 4: that LSU had like crime scene tape over for a
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  Speaker 4: large portion of the year, almost like they thought they
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  Speaker 4: would get arrested if they completed a pass in that
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  Speaker 4: portion of the field. So it's so good to see
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  Speaker 4: them attack that portion. And you could tell Arkansas was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: they're not gonna throw it there. Yeah, like they're not
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  Speaker 4: gonna tack them, They're not gonna ta no, so we
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  Speaker 4: can just like actually cover from the hash to out
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  Speaker 4: of bounds, which in college.
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  Speaker 1: Is not that much.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that much room anyways. So they and it
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  Speaker 5: was perfectly executed. So let's go down another play. Now,
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  Speaker 5: this is this is gonna you're gonna think I'm like
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  Speaker 5: highlighting the left tackle here because he does get beat
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  Speaker 5: give up a bad sack. But I just want to
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  Speaker 5: watch a couple of things again. We're in a nasty
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  Speaker 5: split down here, and he's not chipping this defensive end.
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  Speaker 1: He's just gonna bluff them like he is.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, but I want you to watch so in trying
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  Speaker 5: to protect the quarterback with this nasty split from a
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver. Okay, we just showed it on the last
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  Speaker 5: play where he's chipping the the a edge rusher, whether
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  Speaker 5: it's a defensive end or a backer on the ball
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  Speaker 5: right here. This is basically it might be a backround
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  Speaker 5: the ball right here, but he's bluffing him. But he's
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  Speaker 5: there to help protection out. But what he does is
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  Speaker 5: ends up messing up the entire route concept because we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna have a deep post right here. We are going
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  Speaker 5: to have we're gonna call it like an indie. We
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  Speaker 5: call it pin indy. And every everyone runs this rail
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  Speaker 5: where he comes over the middle and then he bursts
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  Speaker 5: backed outside almost to like the corner area. Then the
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  Speaker 5: backside guy is going to run a deep end cut
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  Speaker 5: and so the read goes it's a top down read. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: so you read the read the deep post, then to
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  Speaker 5: the indie, which is Aaron Anderson back to the backside
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  Speaker 5: dig route. So what happens in trying to protect the
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  Speaker 5: quarterback you get two guys right next to each other
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  Speaker 5: because there there's not Now Aaron Anderson gets pushed inside
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  Speaker 5: a little bit too much.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay.
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  Speaker 5: Now this ball if the left tackle should go to
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  Speaker 5: the post. Now Van Buren's footwork is not good enough.
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  Speaker 5: He's not His footwork's too fast here that he wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: ever see the post or get to it. Left tackle
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  Speaker 5: of course misses him. But this should be this should
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  Speaker 5: be a dig route.
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  Speaker 1: Throw right here.
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  Speaker 5: They just get too close and trying to protect the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: They kind of screw up the route combination because you
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  Speaker 5: never want two guys next to each other.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, you got to make the block and everything,
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  Speaker 5: but a couple of things improve. I don't love the
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  Speaker 5: nasty split by the receiver. I don't love Van Buren's footwork.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. I don't like the block by the left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He whiffed. I got it.
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  Speaker 5: That's not really the point of highlighting this play he did,
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  Speaker 5: I mean didn't get a hand on him.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Anyho come back to reality a little bit, yep.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, all these plays I'm showing, every single pass
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  Speaker 5: play almost there's some sort of extra protection for the quarterback,
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  Speaker 5: which is warranted a lot, but then at some points
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  Speaker 5: it kind of screws everything else up a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: So just a little education for you, a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of the why why things happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, some of the some of the route combinations, stuff
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  Speaker 4: like from from like day one of whoever the new
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  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator is yep, Like that's gonna get I would
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  Speaker 4: assume that's gonna get cleaned up, because you gotta you
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  Speaker 4: gotta unravel some stuff the foundational principles, Like I've there's
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  Speaker 4: route concepts we've run that I've never really seen.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: It's And so it's hard for me to go all
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  Speaker 4: in on the paint on the quarterbacks and receivers right
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  Speaker 4: now because when I turn on the tape, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what they're trying to get done.
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  Speaker 1: And that's me saying that.
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  Speaker 4: And I understand route concepts pretty well and what and
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  Speaker 4: what are coverage beaters? The man sitting to my left
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  Speaker 4: knows him better than anybody I've ever been around. And
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  Speaker 4: if if I don't notice them, okay, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: If he doesn't notice them, that's.
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  Speaker 1: A real issue.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's hard for me to really, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: just go all in because I'm like that there there
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  Speaker 4: has to be a rhyme and a reason for a
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  Speaker 4: route combination, like and it's got to have different layers
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  Speaker 4: to it, and it's got to be on different levels,
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  Speaker 4: like even our flag football teams that we coach.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get everybody to run their route and.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like stop and I'll show, Okay, we got discovered
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  Speaker 4: that cover, discovered that car, we got all quadrants like
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  Speaker 4: are covered.
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  Speaker 1: There's somebody in each window.
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  Speaker 4: Because you try to say, hey, whatever coverage you run,
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  Speaker 4: one of these routes is going to be a situation
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  Speaker 4: where I feel like we can win. I don't see that.
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  Speaker 4: I see guys in the same area. I see inside
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  Speaker 4: releases on routes. You're never supposed to have an inside release,
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  Speaker 4: and so that jumbles things up as well.
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  Speaker 1: I see the som So.
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  Speaker 5: I've already highlighted that our wide receiver room is one
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  Speaker 5: of the bright spots of this team because of a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the gritty work that they've they're doing in
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  Speaker 5: the trenches and in the blocking scheme and the effort
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  Speaker 5: that they're showing. It has been fantastic to see that
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  Speaker 5: progression throughout the year, when in a year where the
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  Speaker 5: receivers aren't getting the stats they want, the touches they want,
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  Speaker 5: the tds they want, they're not getting all that stuff,
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  Speaker 5: but they're still playing hard and doing the things that
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  Speaker 5: they're being asked to do to try to win the game.
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  Speaker 5: In the running game and blocking out with screens and
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  Speaker 5: things like that, and you don't see anybody. You don't
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  Speaker 5: see any bad body language in this receiver room, which
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  Speaker 5: is awesome to see because of all the receiver of
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  Speaker 5: all the position groups, usually it's the wide receivers that get.
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  Speaker 1: The bad body language and want the ball. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they look like eleven j.
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  Speaker 4: Cutler's out there sometimes when things aren't going the way
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  Speaker 4: that position.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the kind of like the alpha mentality you
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  Speaker 5: want in a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Same with the dB.
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  Speaker 5: But to Jake's point, when they're running routes and they're
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  Speaker 5: running route concepts, sometimes there doesn't seem to be I
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  Speaker 5: can't decipher what are route concepts trying to get accomplished.
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  Speaker 5: And then sometimes they're running routes that it's just like
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  Speaker 5: Cardinal sen mistakes that they're making. Like you said, inside
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  Speaker 5: release on a corner route. Yeah, inside release from the
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  Speaker 5: outside when you're supposed to run a fade route and
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  Speaker 5: it's cover two, they're inside releasing and bringing the cloud
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  Speaker 5: defender into the slot.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, Like I've seen these things.
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  Speaker 5: I just showed you an in route at the commercial
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  Speaker 5: bike like a deep en route where the guy's running
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  Speaker 5: like he's running it on paper, but he's not pressing.
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  Speaker 5: He's not closing the distance between him and the dB.
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  Speaker 5: To make that guy may have to panic and make
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  Speaker 5: him make a decision. So he's getting he's just sitting
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  Speaker 5: on it and covering up. Like there's little things that
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  Speaker 5: could help this wide receiver crew improve so much from
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  Speaker 5: just getting open because a lot of times we're running
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  Speaker 5: these concepts and I'm like, I don't understand the point
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  Speaker 5: of the concept, and I don't know where I would
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  Speaker 5: go with the ball. If I was a quarterback, usually
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  Speaker 5: the answer is I'll hit a check down. But our
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  Speaker 5: checkdowns are chipping right now, and they're late getting out
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  Speaker 5: into their zones. And sometimes they're so late getting out
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  Speaker 5: in their zones they're stacking over the top of a
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  Speaker 5: receiver that's an outlet, and you're let they're letting one defender.
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  Speaker 1: Cover two people.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I say that like the coaching staff that is
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  Speaker 5: there right this second. They are working with a foundational Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: for sure, an offense that foundational is flawed. Yes, So
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  Speaker 5: there's only so much you can do. So and what's
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  Speaker 5: one thing you're gonna do when we just saw Kurn
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  Speaker 5: get whiffed, right, Yep, you got to protect them and
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to protect them, and I applaud that and
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  Speaker 5: I and I agree with all that, but I just
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  Speaker 5: you have to there's a balance there that sometimes when
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  Speaker 5: you feel like you're protecting the quarterback, you're actually not
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  Speaker 5: protecting the quarterback because you're not giving him any options.
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  Speaker 4: It's going back to the old seven man protection when
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  Speaker 4: you're struggling. Actually, seven man protection invites more problems than
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  Speaker 4: it does solution.
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  Speaker 5: So what they're doing is not what they're what they're
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  Speaker 5: being asked to do right now, That from a coaching standpoint,
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  Speaker 5: is not easy, not at all. Create this game planning great,
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  Speaker 5: let's protect them, but not protective.
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  Speaker 4: But because you got to use the foundations that were
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  Speaker 4: putting the place by you know, Joe Sloan and that
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  Speaker 4: you know he was the OC right, So when you
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  Speaker 4: take over an interim basis, like you can't just install
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  Speaker 4: your own terminology, your own verbiage and things you haven't
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  Speaker 4: done just in a bye week.
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  Speaker 1: You got to try to make the best of it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know there's plays in the game that we
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  Speaker 4: could point to that you're trying to you that, Like
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  Speaker 4: you had the one drive where it's like who's going
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  Speaker 4: to throw the pass? Those things were cool. It's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: Juwan Johnson was an All state quarterback. He's thrown for
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  Speaker 4: more yards I think than anybody Taylor's That is that correct.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't you break all the angel records?
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  Speaker 1: Right? So hey, if he's gonna play running back, how
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  Speaker 1: well about you let him throw a pass or two.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be a nice change of pace.
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  Speaker 4: Well he did, right, And so like those are things
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  Speaker 4: that you can install moving forward. But as far as
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  Speaker 4: the foundation pieces, it is what it is. For the
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  Speaker 4: most part. You just got to try to make the
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  Speaker 4: best of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you do.
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  Speaker 5: And I like, like I just said, it's what they're
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  Speaker 5: being asked to do right now, is not It's certainly
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  Speaker 5: not easy because if if there weren't protection issues, one
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  Speaker 5: on one pass protection issues all season, then of course
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  Speaker 5: you don't get those chips and those stumps that were
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  Speaker 5: talking about. Now, it's a good change up to have.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't think you can be relying on it.
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  Speaker 5: And I watched this film from this past weekend. It's
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  Speaker 5: like every play, every play, And again I'm not saying
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  Speaker 5: I would have done anything different, I would, you know,
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  Speaker 5: It's it's it's tough going into the game because I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure in practice, like you get the thump and the
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  Speaker 5: guy gets out into the right spot, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and the timing doesn't look too bad. But yeah, anyway, overall, typically.
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  Speaker 4: For what you're saying though, like if you do what
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  Speaker 4: they're doing as far as making sure you're helping, it's
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  Speaker 4: because you're going against a von Miller and you're like,
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  Speaker 4: von Miller is not going to beat us this week.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna make sure wherever von Miller is, then we
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  Speaker 4: have presence, like we either chip or we give body
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  Speaker 4: presents and then we get like typically you'll do that
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  Speaker 4: for like an elite edge rusher, we gotta affect him.
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  Speaker 4: He can't be like Arkansas doesn't really have that. Like again,
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  Speaker 4: they were playing their mic backer on the edge because
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  Speaker 4: they felt like they had an advantage and he's the
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: one that got the sack there, so I understand it.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: But typically, like you only have that point of emphasis
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: as much as they did when you have an elite.
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  Speaker 5: Rusher And what did what were you taught when you
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: were a chipper? I know what we taught was basically,
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: if you see color, you chip yes. Now if the
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: defensive end or linebacker on the rest, if he rushes
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: head up or inside you, you get out on your route.
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  Speaker 5: If basically was like if you if there's meat there,
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  Speaker 5: hit it. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And every every tackle, every tackle liked it a little
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: bit different, So you had to make sure you had
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: that conversation. Marcus McNeil, who a lot of y'all remember
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: he played at Auburn, was an incredible player. He's like, dude,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: give presence, but don't touch my guy. Give presence, but
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: do not touch him. Don't knock me off my block.
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  Speaker 4: I had Jeremy Cleary, who was our right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He played a k State.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, oh my god, please help all right,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: anytime you can hit him, please do it, Like he
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: wanted a hand on him.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: So you had to.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Remember like your tackles and what their preference was, because
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: like they had their way of doing things, and so
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: they wanted to make sure that you were on the
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: same page.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: And a lot of times it's like I don't want
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: you to push him in unless it's.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: At the at the line of scrimmage.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Like a lot of times they didn't want to run
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: him back from like if they'd already set and aid
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: contact with the defensive end Russian, they didn't want to
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: running back coming in and pushing them in. Yeah, because
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: they'd already said there. Yeah, they'd want to hit them
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: go straight forward. So basically it was like if you
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: see a rib, break it, if you see if you
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: see an armpit, take it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: That was basically like the coaching strategy. But if you didn't,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: you're out on your route concert. You're not trying to
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: look for work. If it's there, take it.
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  Speaker 4: One of things we haven't really talked about in you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: sometimes us as offensive players, maybe we start to watch
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the offense first before we get to the defense. But
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the job that this defense did for LSU against Arkansas
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: after the first drive, and look the first drive a
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: lot of times it's like a prize fight, right, you're
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: just kind of taking their job a little bit. You're
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  Speaker 4: trying to figure out, Okay, how hard does this got punch? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: all right, cool, I gotta figure it out. Now, let
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  Speaker 4: me make my adjustments. And again, Arkansas bad football team.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Arkansas offense really good, one of the best statistically in
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: the country, certainly one of the best in the Southeastern Conference.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And Blake Baker in this defense, they hold Arkansas to
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: fifteen points because obviously the block punt touchdown was the
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: other seven.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: So Patrino's really good coach, right, really good offensive coach.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: He put on a master class of the first fifteen,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: an absolutely master class. Like it was dynamic, it was
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: it had purpose to it. It was look over here,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I go over here, let's power it here like they
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: it was an absolute master class of first fifteen. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: once they got past that first fifteen, of course, we
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: you know, LSU kind of lucked out on a fumble
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: too when they pitched it. We got a fumbled in
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: that first fifteen, so it kind of got them out
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: of rhythm right there. But man, I was I was
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: watching that game. I think I texted y'all too. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, this first fifteen script for
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Petrino was incredible. Yeah, so that was one of the reasons.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: But once they got kind of past that scripted portion
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: of the game, like Baker in the crew, they kind
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: of settled into it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely performance of the year certainly.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I thought it was multiple guys that did a lot
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: of things, and Harrold Perkins Junior was, you know, we
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: kind of joked about it, like Arkansas hates to see
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: that guy coming. They should because I mean, he has
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: played well against him really his entire career. I mean
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: even going back to when he was a young player.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: He kind of won the game by himself. They heard
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: four sacks and they heard him as Yeah, somebody along
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the way certainly did. And so for Lshu's defense to
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: hold that offense to fifteen points, that is an incredible
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: date at the office.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And it's not like you went out there and.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: You know, did anything that you haven't really done all
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: season long, Like you didn't have these crazy exotic looks,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: like you ran your defense, and so it was their
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: best against your best and you just had the better day,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Like you made the plays. Harold Perkins had a great
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: interception right there was the fumble, and that's a self
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: inflicted mom but you get that, you take that, you
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: take advantage, and you you know, have them inside the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: ten yard line multiple times where they don't come away
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: with point points. And to go after one on one
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: against montsour Delaine, that's a choice, certainly a choice. That's
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: like they tried. They just watched that film too. Yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: they lined it up to go against him. It was
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: almost like they were just going to go left. Regardless,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I'm probably not gonna go against the guy that's gonna
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: be in the conversation and win the thorpe. I'm probably
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: not going to try to single coverage him and make
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a play a back shoulder fade against that guy because
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: he saw a company. He's like, uh, yeah, I'll take this,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: thank you, yep, like you're really testing me.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: It was a great play because they singled him up
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: and and Monsour played outside shoulder yep, and so it
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: made him on this It made him try to inside
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: release a fade route because he didn't want to press
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: a dB that was outside shoulder on him. And he
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: had the confidence enough to whear if he was running
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: inside inside running route that he could still trail him
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: and make the play like yeah, he expected the fade
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: come and made the guy go inside with you. You
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: never want to go inside on a on a fade
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: route in the red zone and he kind of gave
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: up on the bar. A great play, I mean, yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: it's a it's certainly a choice to attack.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Him one on one.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: But the classic like Petrino old school coach, like we're
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: gonna run, We're gonna run our offense. Who they got
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: out there. We're gonna run our offense. We're gonna set
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: it up all right. Yeah, we're to the boundary. Absolutely,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: this is what we do. We're on the if we
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: were on the right, hash we do it to the
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: other side, run the left ash classic interception. Oh how
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: about Like I thought one of the play of the
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: games was the quarterback sneak stop. Oh yeah, well, who
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: was it? I thought Gillery kind of he headlocked him.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: It was like the way, let's that's how you stop
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: a push push, Yeah, that's how you stop a quarterback snake.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Just come over the top, yeah and hit and put
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: him in a headlock. Yeah, that was fantastic. I thought
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: that was one of the plays of the game.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: And you never see a defensive tackle from a tackle
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: position going. You see the linebackers sometimes come over the top,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: sot to scrape over the top and do that, but
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: for a big boy to do it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Cob and Gillileries certainly had his best year to date
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in an LSU uniform. I thought he played fantastic.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: The job that Kyle Williams has done with what he's
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: been given in the interior of the defensive line. Remember
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: he's not the entire D line. He's just the interior,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: so he's the defensive tackles. And really, you know, I
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: would say with what Blake wants to get done to
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: what Bo Didley was recruiting, that typically don't match up,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: like Bo Davis wanted bigger space eaters, and I think
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: you need something a little bit different, and so you
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: go get a good and out of the transfer portal
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: who's played well, but Jacovin Gillery's by far played his
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: best football in an Elisi uniform this year. I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Kyle's doing a hell of a job with that unit.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: And you know, my hope is that Kyle's right back
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: here next year. Regardless of who the coach is. You've
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: got some dogs coming in this recruiting class at that
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: position that are way more the body type that they're
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: looking for.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't know who the coach are going to be.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: None of us know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: But when you look at this defensive staff, the improvement
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: that they've made, and you just saw like a game
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: plan against a running quarterback that looks like it was
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit different, and you kind of wonder, okay, well,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: you know, what were some of the limitations there Prior
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: to that, and so.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who the coach is going to be.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: There would certainly be an indictment if they didn't look
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: strong and hard at keeping a good handful of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: defensive coaching staff together. And I think it would start
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: with Kyle Williams, Court Raymond, Blake Baker. I don't want
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: to not single out everybody else, but those are the
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: ones that come to the top of my head. Certainly,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Jay Golsen's done a great job with the safeties.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: We talked about Tomarcus Cooley, we talked about Aj Hawsey, right,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Jake Golsen's a safety coach, big right. So I think
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the defensive staff had a great game plan against a
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: really good, talented offense and like Matt said, a great
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: play caller as well.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: By Petrino's a lot of things, some good on a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: great motorcycle, some bad. Right.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: One thing he can do is call an offensive ball
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: game and room fifteen points. A guy that had been
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: running around on everybody didn't run around on LSU out there.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: You know, he had one draw play I thought was
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a really great performance and a good game plan. We
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: even saw the return of the old Maryland I Blitz
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that they did a year ago. Hadn't seen that and
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: they did it, and so yeah, it's a little bit
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: of everything in this one.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: So what did we say, three turnovers, go on stand,
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: miss field goal, missfield goal, and win by one.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: But you get a dumb Tiger, get a dumb and
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: by the way, last thing on the defense before we
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: take a break. You've done this without your best overall
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: player in what weeks in the middle of your defense,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: and you've.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Had some guys fill in.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: You've had some guys fill in the athletic ability of
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: what you had to what you have now not on
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the same page obviously, and so they've had to try
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: to play without their best player in the middle of
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: the defense and it's been a bright spot for a
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: year that has not been great.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Well, let's also give some credit where credit is due
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: here overall best player on defense. I don't know if
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Witt is the best player on defense any like at
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: this point with way Monster and aj are playing, that's true, Yeah,
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: the heart and soul of the defense. But Monsour, I mean,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: he's my god. He's played himself into a high high
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: high first round.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: He was a third team All ACC guys, So a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: good player, are you serious? Is third team ACC? Right?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: So like he was a he was a good player,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: But what Corey Raymond and this staff have unlocked in him,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: like the full like what I mean, just a great
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: example they can use now in the transfer portal.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, you were third team all ACC. You came here.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Now you're going to be a top twenty draft choice.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Right, even an older player, you can sell development with
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: this defensive staff. So look, it's my hope that whoever
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: the next head coach is looks at that says, hey,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: let's let's keep some continuity here because remember last time,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: like when BK came in, like everything hit reset, everything
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: started like everybody in the building, not just on the staff,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: and so familiar faces guys that recruits know, guys that
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the current players obviously have a great relationship with as well.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: And I mean even things like maybe a wit Weeks
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: comes back, if Blake Baker in this staff or back.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you sure hope you don't get in the
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: situation we just we just went through a situation where
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: a coach came in and said, no, I don't care
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: about what's been I'm gonna do it. But my way,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: you would think that you'd like to have a coach
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: that comes with a mentality like, let's what what is work?
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: There's something that's working that's really great. Here, let's maintain
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: the things that work and change the things that don't.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: A couple of things inside the chat here by four chat.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: How about Petrino's field toss dive. Yeah, you don't come
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: to L s U and try to toss on us.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That's our play.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: If anybody is going to ever toss dive, it's L
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: s U or at least that's.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: The way that it used to be. Uh.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, completely disagree with sweet g L s U. Please
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: don't say weeks our best player guy will play teams
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: at the next.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Level at best. Come on, Oh really tell me more.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: That's that's just not factual. I'm looking.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: You can argue best player because like Delane and Halsey
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: have been playing incredible, like Matt said, like certainly the
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: heart and soul. Uh to say he's a team's player
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: at the next level, that's just completely false.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: He's gonna play.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Well, everybody is a team's player, play like at the
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: next level, a.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Special team specialist.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: No, now that's now the guy's athletic, quick to the punch,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: great rushing the passer as well, good in coverage. Yeah,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: that's that's just completely false, And it's fine. It's your opinion,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: but I'm just telling.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You, and it's okay to say he's not the best
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: player on the defense.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, and AJ Halsey too.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had too many scouts ask me about what
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: weeks to think that he's just a team's player.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to get a little bit down in the low.
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  Speaker 3: Key Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Uh, I don't want to bleep that out.
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  Speaker 4: It's always a great time to go for dose. It
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  Speaker 4: was a tailgating weekend and so it was good to see. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: now it's a great time. Tomorrow is a great time.
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  Speaker 4: It's always a great time to go for dose. Grab
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  Speaker 4: an ice cold do sekis today?
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  Speaker 1: Was it getting better at my sound effects? I'm here worse.
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  Speaker 5: Solid. It's pretty solid. It's probably the same same guy forty.
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  Speaker 1: That's wrong. What's so funny with me? Laughing? Nose? Taylor?
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  Speaker 4: You know what, Arkansas probably disappointed that they didn't get
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  Speaker 4: the victory in Tiger Stadium. They didn't get to load
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  Speaker 4: up the old Golden boot and drive it back up
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  Speaker 4: to Fable Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it would have set first class? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they have that in a different spot than
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  Speaker 4: we do. I promise you that, I promise you.
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  Speaker 1: Got it under the plane.
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  Speaker 4: They got it in first they got it in first
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  Speaker 4: class with a seat belt onlot. It might it just
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: might be so as bad as their feeling after a
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: one point loss. You know who feels worse? South Carolina?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Why Because they were up thirty to
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  Speaker 4: three going into halftime and Shane Beemer was hyping up
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  Speaker 4: the crowd there at cayle Field as they went into
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  Speaker 4: the locker room, and you.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Would normally think, what was the record going into that game?
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: It was really bad record?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I think it was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you would think that like going into the
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  Speaker 5: number three team in the country, going onto their home
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  Speaker 5: field and losing by one point, you would think normally
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  Speaker 5: that wouldn't be a fireable offense.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: But it was a fireable offense.
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  Speaker 2: Shaneamer put on a masterclass a big lead, way too conservative.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: So what was the staff that was that they showed
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  Speaker 5: on television? I got it pulled up here.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 5: Teams in the SEC and SEC play since two thousand
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  Speaker 5: and four, teams are oh and two hundred and eighty six.
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  Speaker 5: Why when trailing by twenty seven plus points, zero wins
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: two hundred and eighty six losses in SEC play when
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: trailing about twenty seven plus points, that that means they
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  Speaker 5: don't win very often.
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  Speaker 1: But they won.
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  Speaker 5: That game. And so you can say all you want
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  Speaker 5: about like the heart of the Champion, which is wildly impressive,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: what A and M did like to be able to
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: overcome that. Let's give them all of the flowers, because
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: they deserve all the flowers.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: They played awful.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Marcel played terrible early on, They played out, they were
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: trying to do things that they don't normally try to do.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: In South Carolina played their best half of football and
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: so give them all their flowers, but my god, they're
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: a team cannot just go and win it down by
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: twenty seven and one half.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: The other team has to absolutely lose it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah they should feel great about it, but
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: it is an absolutely fireable offense to lose a game
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: went up at thirty.
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  Speaker 4: To three at half time. Yeah, terrible, Like, yeah, you
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: got to find a way. You got to you got it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Now you're three and seven. You got to run the football.
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  Speaker 4: You got like you gotta running quarterback like you gotta.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta start from the very get go. Hey, we're
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: gonna control this clock, and this is just how we're
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: going to play this game.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You can't lose that game, dude. I gotta know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Shane Beamer's buy out is is a big one, certainly
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: for South Carolina, and I love I love Shane. Shane's
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: always been great to me, his greats, come on the
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  Speaker 4: afternoon show with me, great dude, and he's had some
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: good moments last year. Last year they were on some
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: playoff team.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Man, when you.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Lose a thirty to three lead like that and then
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: the objects of you going into halftime and pumping up
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: the opposing crowd it's just a tough look to.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Come back from it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: It's a tough look. And like I yeah, and just
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: like you, I really like him. I heard him. He
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: was the biggest takeaway from me from SEC media days,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: just being impressive, just talking and hearing his confidence and
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: hearing the way he spoke, and I was like, man,
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: that's a guy I could play for for sure. Like that,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: that guy, that guy gets it. He's good. H the
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: way he speaks is great. But after that game, I
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: was like, oh, yeah, I'll be doing a eulogy Monday.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: That's how That's how strongly I felt about it. You
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: just can't it can't happen. But you know what the
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: benefactors is a know, good for you all. You get
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: to stay number three in the country. Yeah now for now, Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: that's it's coming.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: It's coming. I don't think so. They're still pretty good.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: They just played really bad. It's it's gonna happen.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Everybody runs a stinker, like you always as good teams,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: you always want that, like there's a get right game
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: every year, Like it's it's the rude awakening, like we
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: had that game. That's that learning moment, and you always
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: hope that you just come out on top of that
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: game and it doesn't ruin your season. Well, was that
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: A and M's Was that A and M's game that
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  Speaker 5: they were like, all right, that's the bring us back
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  Speaker 5: to reality, humblest little bit. Let's learn from this. We're
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: still really good. Usually think that we wanted that type
• 38:42
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• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they looked at Arkansas team put forty two
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: on them, three and overtime.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Well, Arkansas is a great team. She was just really great.
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  Speaker 1: That's what that's what it must be.
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  Speaker 4: somebody's not gonna be working for the Pelicans anymore, speaking
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  Speaker 4: of working with green head coach, he gone fired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, this is this is overdue. Obviously.
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  Speaker 4: The Pelicans have played thirteen games this year, and they've
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  Speaker 4: They've already had two different losing streaks. Won five games,
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  Speaker 4: be the best team in the NBA, but any means
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  Speaker 1: Taylor, that's an interesting choice. He's getting his tears wiped. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: Can y'all think of a moment where Willy Green should
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  Speaker 1: have had a tear wipe from his y? No, they
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• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Zion went down again something Well, No, I mean there's
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: ever any emotion that he knows too well to be
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  Speaker 2: upset about and be that?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Is there too much crying in sports? Yes? Question needs
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  Speaker 1: to be asked. I feel like, have you ever cried
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  Speaker 1: when or lose? No, not on the field at least, no,
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  Speaker 1: are you That's probably more appropriate.
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  Speaker 4: It was what you said you did in the locker
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  Speaker 4: round you for beating the Cowboys. Maybe happy tears?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was an emotional ride for me.
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  Speaker 5: I'd got cut by the Raider, has been traded from Seattle,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: came back and beat the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: Which seemed.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good emotional on That's what I'm saying, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: But feel the question is to be asked, is there.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Are too much crying? It's sports right now. I get it.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta be in touch with your emotional self. You're
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  Speaker 5: innerview things are people want people to be passionate. But
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  Speaker 5: I'm just asking questions. I'm not saying that there is
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  Speaker 5: no there's.
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  Speaker 4: Just a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of it. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I can't think of a I can't think
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  Speaker 1: of a scenario where.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Right, like I still think about to this day, t
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Boat crying on the field after after the regular season loss,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: a regular season loss, and like it was emotional for
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: him and I get that that's that's great, Like it
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: was so uncommon that that still sticks out.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, a crab when he gave the speech like
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: no team in America is going to play as hard.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: As we already that speech is memorialized.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: It is is it a plaque or is it as
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the ground.
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  Speaker 1: On the ground? Yeah, I think I was like on
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  Speaker 1: the side of the building. Now you don't walk on that.
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  Speaker 4: That was on the side of the building as you
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  Speaker 4: walk into like the football facility.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: That's that's you don't walk on that speech. Yeah, selfies
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  Speaker 5: by that one.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cool. Is the Pelican season already classic? It's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: on the side of the building. It's over, mid it's over.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It really was ever before it started. But like again
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: it's not the most talented roster. But they shouldn't be
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: as bad as they are. That's fair enough.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Well, yes, you got too much talent again, like you
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: should be like at least in the conversation of playoff,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: like what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's on the side of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the promise? What is that this basic red brick
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the most basic font you can find
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  Speaker 4: the Microsoft word A jester white.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a white sign like that. Yeah, why
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: is it not orange and blue? It feels like something
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  Speaker 1: at least make it like more metallic. Behind it would
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  Speaker 1: have Maine. It looks like it's like behind the corner
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  Speaker 1: of a building. Is this thing hidden? They still grab
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  Speaker 1: newspapers too, out of newspaper bens. I don't know. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we got a lot coming in our number three.
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  Speaker 4: We got weekend winters, we got Devin Snow, we got
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  Speaker 4: a eulogy for a fallen brother.
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  Speaker 1: We have all that coming your way. Now, number three
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  Speaker 1: off the bench.