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02 - Everybody's Thumping · NO ID

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  No ID is meant for a sane audience. No ID may
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  contain Liberty -oriented content. PINCO discretion
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  is advised. Now, here's No ID with Paul Banducci
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  and Scott Moskowitz. Hello, it's No ID. Man,
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  you know, it's only been a couple of weeks, but...
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  Only a couple shows and only a couple weeks in
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  between recordings, but it feels too long. We
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  missed you. I missed us. I missed you. Oh, Scott.
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  I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to whoever's
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  hearing this, which as it turns out, surprisingly
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  and happily was a few people. And we'll get to
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  that in a little bit when we talk about our value
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  for value model on this show, which has already
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  paid off. And I think that might have been the
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  most shocking news. Well, you tell me what your
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  reaction was. I was pleasantly surprised, very
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  pleasantly surprised. And then I had to ask you
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  questions like, how does all of this work? I'm
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  the podcaster who doesn't know how to podcast,
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  but I'm here for it. So that's all your job is
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  to just provide the North Idaho credibility like
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  we talked about on the first show here on No
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  ID. So we're the hyper local revolution covering
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  North Idaho. And in fact, we're not really covering
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  North Idaho. We are not journalists. We're deconstructing
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  the journalists. That's the point of this show.
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  Every region has a mainstream apparatus that
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  propagandizes and every region therefore needs
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  deconstruction. So thanks for checking us out
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  and it's our second ever episode and we're right
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  on the cusp of elections coming up in just a
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  couple of weeks for city councils and mayors
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  and school boards. So there's a bunch of timely
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  material and this show will be a mix of both
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  timely material and evergreen topics, again,
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  like we sort of talked about on the first show,
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  which covered North Idaho College. Some of this
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  election, these elections coming up, people are
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  bringing that back in, evoking a lot of the same
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  themes. They just can't help themselves. They
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  play the same cards over and over again. There's
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  going to be chaos if you don't vote for the right
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  people. Don't mess with us. If you don't vote
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  correctly, we're going to take a torch to the
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  curtains. That is essentially the main talking
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  point of NRI, which is an organization called
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  North Idaho Republicans here in North Idaho.
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  that branched off from the KRCC, the Kootenai
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  County Republican Precinct Committee. They are
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  not an official Republican affiliated organization,
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  but, you know, they're big mad about conservatives
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  actually winning some seats from time to time.
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  They like to refer to themselves as conservatives.
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  Of course, we all know they are not. The term
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  we use for them is rhinos. It's a battle that's
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  being fought on the daily around here, and it
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  can be very confusing to those who are new and
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  even those who are what we might call the low
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  information voter or the voter who doesn't have
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  time to look into all of it or What have you?
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  So that's what we're here for. Not necessarily
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  telling people how to vote, but it's good to
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  know who exactly you're voting for and what they
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  represent. One might say they're Republican,
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  but their platform or their policies or their
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  who they know and what they do doesn't reflect
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  actual conservative Republican values. I'm I
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  do not intend Paul, you tell me if you feel differently,
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  but I'm not planning on saying like, oh, this
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  is who I'm voting for. This is who you should
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  vote for, like the cards that come in the the
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  postcards that come in the mail. You know, oh,
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  we should hear your preferred candidates and
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  just check boxes. I don't intend to do that.
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  Oh, well, I might. But for me, it's I'm an anarcho
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  capitalist. So I'm just going to out myself right
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  now. But anybody who's listened to this, who
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  knows me knows that anyways, because how do you
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  know a person is an anarchist? You know, when
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  they walk into the room, they tell you in two
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  minutes, you know, the first question we ask
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  is this taxation theft and everybody who raises
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  their hand and agrees with me, it goes, ah, we're
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  going to be friends. So for me, it's about consistency,
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  ideological or political or all of those different
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  categories, consistency, basically. Say what
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  you say, what you mean, mean what you say, do
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  what you say you're going to do. And I'll hold
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  you to that, whether you're on the left, whether
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  you're on the right. I argue with conservatives
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  almost more than I argue with leftists due to
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  a lot of inconsistencies. So that's what I'm
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  here for. That's what I like to do is just kind
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  of call everybody on it and go, hey, you say
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  this, but I'm not seeing it. So what we're going
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  to hear on this show is a lot of the candidates
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  themselves and the interviews that they did with
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  the Hagadon News Network. I pulled a lot of audio
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  from their own mouths and I want to go through
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  it and let's go, let's start with the Post Falls
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  City Council. in partnership with the Coeur d
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  'Alene Post Falls Press. For this segment, we're
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  going to be talking with candidates for Post
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  Falls City Council. And we'll start with Ryan
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  Davis. Can you assure voters that you will not
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  raise property taxes, vote to raise property
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  taxes? Whether yes or no, can you explain? I
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  would love to assure that we're not going to
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  have to raise property taxes. Unfortunately,
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  to keep the services at a high level, we're going
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  to have to address taxes. And that could mean
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  that we're going to have to see some tax increases.
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  That was the first thing I wanted to bounce off
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  of. Well, at least he was honest. I can appreciate
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  that. I'm going to do a spot. There's a spoiler
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  here. There's only one person that I heard that
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  didn't answer that question basically this way.
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  They asked the same questions to all the candidates.
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  It wasn't like the mayoral race was a set of
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  questions. The city council race was a set of
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  questions, but it was the same question as all
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  the candidates. Like I said, with no commentary
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  from the moderators, but all but one person.
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  basically answered the questions that way. We're
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  seeing interest rates beginning to creep down
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  a little bit, which means that you're going to
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  see more activity in the real estate market,
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  which means more people are going to move here.
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  So that was another theme was growth. Everyone's
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  talking about the growth and what do we need
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  to do to control the growth or limit the growth
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  or do it in a smart way or whatever. You and
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  I touched on this. The key to make housing more
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  affordable is to build more. And that's the thing
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  around here nobody wants to grapple with because
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  Everybody wants Idaho to stay the way it was
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  when they got here or when they were born here.
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  But it can't. People want to live here. That's
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  just the nature of it. And I'm a local. I was
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  born in Fairchild Air Force Base. I was raised
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  here. I'm 37 years old. I've seen the growth
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  and all and all that that entails. You know,
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  places I used to play as a kid are now houses
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  for rich out of towners. You can sit and cry
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  about it or you can find ways to take advantage
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  of the growth. More people here means higher
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  velocity of the dollar, more business, more ways
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  to make a buck. There's that aspect of it, too.
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  More friends to make. And a lot of folks moving
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  here, like we talked about last time, are in
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  this wave, tend to be a little more libertarian,
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  a little more conservative, not all, but they
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  tend to lean that way. And I ever want to appreciate
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  that. Of course, the power base that's built
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  here does not. And that's the fight that's been
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  going on now for about a decade in earnest. We
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  do have in the studio with us here today. I want
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  to introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Mark Luca. I'm
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  running for city council in the city of Post
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  Falls for seat six, which is one currently occupied
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  by gentlemen you just heard in a clip. So we
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  don't, just because Mark's in here with us doesn't
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  mean we do or don't endorse anybody. Just to
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  be clear, I'm not making any statement one way
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  or the other. I just thought it would be, and
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  Paul thought it would be interesting to have
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  someone that's on the inside of this race in
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  here with us. Yeah, I mean, I suppose as a caveat,
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  I should say when we first started talking about
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  this podcast, Scott and I, He said, we're not
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  really going to have guests. And I said, that
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  sounds great. In our first two podcasts, we have
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  guests because we pick a topic. And I can't help
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  myself. I go, I know a guy or three or 10 who
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  have the inside track information on what's going
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  on. Why don't we bring them on and let them talk?
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  So this is the part of the double -edged sword
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  of having the North Idaho credibility and the
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  long -standing, you know, you've been, you've
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  lived here your whole life, you know, you know
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  everybody. Almost. There's always going to be
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  somebody that pops into your mind that is going
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  to be like, oh, you can come hang out with us.
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  So, but like Paul said. Mark was the only one
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  who didn't tell me no. So here he is. I don't
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  have any. Had a lot of free time. I don't, I
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  definitely. That's why you're running for office.
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  That's right. Yeah. I definitely don't want to.
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  like Paul saying, like guests on the show is
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  not necessarily the format. The format is Paul
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  and I are going to deconstruct the mainstream
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  presentations of what goes on here in North Idaho.
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  If guests can contribute to that conversation,
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  fantastic. If they don't also fantastic. I'm
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  not approaching this ideologically, but that
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  yes, that is not necessarily going to be the
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  format of the show. So let's move on to the mayoral
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  Post Falls mayoral race candidates. And like
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  I said, this is just a smattering. It's not necessarily
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  every candidate, every word from every candidate.
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  And I just kind of cut some of them for brevity.
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  Let's start with Scott who it's actually Scote,
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  because he spells his name with one T. And I
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  have a particular this is this sort of burns
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  chaps my hide a little bit because in my pre
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  2020 life and on the previous broadcast, I made
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  a joke once about someone asked like Scott with
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  one T or two. And I was like, who are these maniacs
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  that spell their name with one T. And then for
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  the rest of the time that I was on that show,
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  they they called me like two T's or people would
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  send in emails with like seven T's on Scott.
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  I never heard the last of it. When did we change
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  from names that everybody knew how to spell to
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  trying to become creative? That's a fantastic
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  question. And it's funny if you do genealogy
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  and you go back to the 1800s or something in
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  your family history, you'll see like his name
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  was Cecil, but everyone called him Phil, you
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  know, like nobody was called by their actual
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  name. They all had a different, they were called
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  by something different than their quote, Christian
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  name, right? Absolutely. And then at some point
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  we move to, no, we have to name you something
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  that sounds like a regular name, but is spelled
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  like something that you have to what my wife
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  and I call the spell your name club, where I'm
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  M -A -R -C. So what is the point of that? I'm
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  still Mark. So why do you make me spell my name,
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  right? So you can spend your entire life correcting
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  people. And I've stopped because I don't care.
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  Who cares? You know, like if you call me Mark,
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  With a K, I can't hear the difference. I think
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  it's a really cool bit. M -A -R -Q -U -E. That's
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  a hotel in Vegas. It's the marquee. I've been
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  to the nightclub. No, it's marquee. There's two
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  E's. Like a letter of marquee. Yeah. So I have
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  to spell my first name. Then I have to spell
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  my last name. By the way, my middle name is Anthony
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  without the H. So I have to spell that one too,
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  if I ever have to go to it. Yeah, no kidding.
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  Jared, who we did some banking with just this
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  week. Jared with, what was it? J -A -I -R -R
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  -E -O -D -E -D. I've never seen it before. I've
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  seen a bunch of different variations of Jared,
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  which is by the way, it's spelled J -A -R -E
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  -D. That's how you spell Jared. But I've seen
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  a bunch of different variations and I sort of
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  was ribbing him a little bit, but I didn't want
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  to come across because I... like being mean because
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  I don't know him from Adam, you know, but I did
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  want to kind of be like, what the hell's up with
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  that? He was a good sport. He was a good dude.
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  Shout out. Shout out to Jared. Is that, by the
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  way, is that a sign? And again, I'm going to
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  broaden the discussion here. Is that a sign of
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  the feminists? feminization of our culture. There
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  is something would you men do that? Do men are
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  like, you know, I want to name my child Max,
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  but it's going to be ma h x x e or something.
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  Feminine men do and there's something about there's
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  something about like, oh, I it's a mother like
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  I want my little offspring to be unique and have
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  a unique thing, which you can definitely be a
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  unique and interesting person by your personality.
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  Not your name. Like, your name is really irrelevant.
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  We have a president named Donald that's pretty
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  big personality, right? Some of the most interesting
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  people I've ever met in my life are named Mike.
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  Oh, yeah. Back when I was running the lounge,
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  man. Mike's and Steve's. If we forgot somebody's
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  name, we had a pretty good chance with Mike and
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  Steve. That was nice. Hey, Mike! So this is a
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  public service announcement for those of you
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  who are naming children. Ask yourself, are you
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  naming the child that for yourself or for the
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  child's well -being? What I want to know, Mark,
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  is are you adding this to your campaign platform?
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  I should. I think I need another mailer. Spell
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  names normal again. Post Falls is going to have
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  a child naming committee that you have to submit
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  the name to at a time for any child that's born
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  in the city. They're going to hire 10 people,
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  six figures. Yeah, and I know you're going to
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  clip that now and it's going to be all over the
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  media. It's free -earned media is what it is.
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  All that said, let's listen to a scope and what
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  he's got to say. Our first candidate is Scott
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  Hogue. There seems to be a growing political
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  divide between conservatives and liberals. As
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  mayor, how would you help find the middle ground
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  to encourage people to work together? Now, like
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  I said, you know, there's a lot of repeat. They
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  ask the same set of questions, as I was saying.
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  That's a tough question. Like there are two factions
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  on planet Earth who can't share a space together
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  as the leader of these factions. how would you
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  bring them together? They don't have the same
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  ends, they don't have the same needs, they don't
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  have the same desires, but I want to even, again,
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  to deconstruct mainstream presentations. I want
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  to challenge the premise of that that is the
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  divide, conservative and liberal, because I watched
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  the quote liberals go. berserk and become psychotic
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  authoritarians. They're the exact opposite of
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  liberal. You have the credentials to say that,
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  too. I don't want to keep bringing it up, but
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  being from the Bay Area like you are and getting
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  out of it for the reasons you got out of it,
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  you got to see it firsthand. Yes, I did. They're
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  not liberal. They're the opposite of liberal
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  and also conservative. I'm not a conservative.
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  I don't know what I'm like. I don't know. I don't
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  even care about the labels, but the framing is
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  makes no sense and nobody challenges it. The
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  real framing is authoritarian versus libertarian.
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  Do you want to be told what to do and tell people
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  what to do? Or do both of those things strike
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  you as anathema? Yeah, it's a sliding scale.
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  It's more freedom versus less freedom. Where
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  do you find yourself on that on that scale? Most
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  people say they're for more freedom. Their actions,
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  though, and the way they vote, the way they behave,
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  say otherwise. Exactly. Yeah, you look at people
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  what people do, not what they say. That's in
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  both camps. I agree. That's why neoliberals and
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  neoconservative. That's why I don't like that
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  frame. I pick on all of them. That is an interesting
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  phenomenon scene at the federal level scene.
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  Well, I'm going to use air quotes here, Republican,
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  because Trump is not really a Republican. He
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  said, in fact, the Democrats won the 2024 race
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  just for the record, the Democrats won. Because
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  if you look at all the big winners like Bobby
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  Kennedy, who got his, you know, his place in
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  the world, Trump, Gabbard. go on, go on down
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  the list. They all were former Democrats. So
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  just in case anybody was curious, the Democrats
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  won in 2024. Just by looking like nationalistic
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  Republicans. But like the Republicans are now
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  less of the Warhawks than the I guess the new
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  Democrats. They're the Warhawks. But on economics,
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  Republicans look just as bad or worse than the
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  Democrats do on things. Well, they're willing,
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  they're willing to, yeah, anyway, this phenomenon
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  filters all the way down to the local level.
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  So that's, you know, I'm running it in here.
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  That's where we, you know, in Coeur d 'Alene
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  Post Falls, we have the same phenomenon here.
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  Yeah, and it's that Overton window where the
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  moderate is always moving to the left and that
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  those that are pandering to them, or excuse me,
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  the left is always moving to the left. And then
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  the moderates always trying to stay in their
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  good graces on their right hip. Well, the farther
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  they go to the left and the farther the moderate
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  goes. So sorry to hijack your show, by the way.
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  It's okay. I've got the power of the edit. So
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  let's continue on here with with what Scott has
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  to say in response to that question. As mayor,
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  how would you help find the middle ground to
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  encourage people to work together? That's a great
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  question. That's a great question. We are at
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  a challenging time across the country. And I
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  think that's One of the things that we need to
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  work on is to make sure that we are willing to
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  listen to the other side, listen to both sides
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  of it. And the way I would accomplish that is
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  I believe that people just want to be heard.
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  What if the other side wants you dead? Right.
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  See, exactly. The premise presupposes that the
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  ends are the same, that we want the same things.
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  We don't. We do not. Some of us want liberty.
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  and some of us want to be subjugated. It's that
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  simple. Whether or not you know you want to be
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  subjugated, I watched your behavior. That's why
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  the hilarity of the no kings protests. You dumbasses
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  love kings. Are you nuts? Yeah, they just want
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  to be the king. Do you think that I or well,
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  we're a different king is the one they like,
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  but they they're both it's authoritarians like
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  being bossed around as much as they like bossing
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  around. It's very strange. Did you I watched
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  you guys in 2020 and 2021. I might have been
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  born tonight, but it wasn't last night. I saw
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  how much you loved being subjugated. You were
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  willing to do anything you were told for as long
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  as you were told. Well, they were scared, Scott.
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  I know. Fear propaganda is his oldest time. One
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  of the topics of conversation regarding the No
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  Kings movement between myself and some of my
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  compatriots who are, you know, we're in our mid
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  late 30s, early 40s. One of the questions is
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  demographics, because I very much enjoyed checking
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  out demographics. Well, the No Kings protests
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  are almost exclusively 55 and above. They're
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  all they're almost almost exclusively old. I'm
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  not going to use the term hippie because they
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  don't deserve that term. Hippie is somebody who
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  doesn't like violence and doesn't like the government.
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  Yeah, pseudo hippies or whatever you want to
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  call it. Authoritarians masquerading as hippies
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  who'd like to do a lot of drugs. That was really...
• 17:01
  And they're quite literally masquerading. There
• 17:03
  was a lot of like furries and other freak show
• 17:06
  elements. Old folks who have nothing better to
• 17:08
  do other than to relive a time when they thought
• 17:10
  they were fighting for noble things. When even
• 17:12
  then in the 60s, most of them were all about
• 17:14
  free love and getting high. Nothing wrong with
• 17:17
  I guess either of those things, but it's a culture.
• 17:19
  It's not great On an individual level, you know,
• 17:22
  let's finish with that. I got one more We're
• 17:24
  never gonna get through all these so let's finish
• 17:26
  with it's okay. Let's finish with mr. Hoag My
• 17:29
  priorities are number one is to be fiscally responsible
• 17:32
  our budgets up 142 percent in the city of Post
• 17:36
  Falls over the last six years We need to reduce
• 17:38
  the budget to make sure that we're reducing taxes
• 17:41
  and spending money wisely. Number two, we need
• 17:44
  to make sure we have good public safety in Post
• 17:46
  Falls and that we're supporting our law enforcement
• 17:49
  and providing them good wages, good training,
• 17:52
  and good equipment so that they can do their
• 17:53
  job and protect us. I believe that's one of the
• 17:56
  core elements of government is to provide good
• 17:58
  public safety. So there again, it's funny, like,
• 18:02
  you know, he speaks about, you know, reducing
• 18:04
  the budget and reining it in. And then in the
• 18:07
  next breath, he talks about all the money he's
• 18:08
  going to spend on law enforcement. Yeah. Well,
• 18:10
  his background is a former police chief. So just
• 18:14
  like every conservative, quote unquote, conservative
• 18:16
  I've ever known, they don't like government until
• 18:18
  they do like government and they're willing to
• 18:19
  spend money on the kind of government they like.
• 18:21
  So I would also question the premise that the
• 18:23
  government is here to keep me safe. I'm here
• 18:26
  to keep me safe. the notion that I need to be
• 18:28
  my safety needs to be managed by the state. Well
• 18:31
  you would think in this area that that wouldn't
• 18:32
  land so well but we've talked about this as well
• 18:34
  it lands great because this area is it really
• 18:37
  really drinks the deep blue Kool -Aid here people
• 18:40
  love their police here for one reason or another
• 18:42
  so when you start talking about firefighters
• 18:44
  and police you better not be talking bad about
• 18:47
  them right it's that's the third rail you can't
• 18:49
  touch it everybody loves my cops If I had a dollar
• 18:53
  for every pickup truck that had a come and take
• 18:55
  it sticker next to a thin blue line sticker without
• 18:58
  realizing the irony behind any of it, I'd be
• 19:00
  a wealthy man. You don't see it? For the record,
• 19:02
  I'm in the minority in the studio on this issue.
• 19:06
  Last part of it. And we need to make sure that
• 19:10
  we treat the citizens as customers and provide
• 19:13
  good customer service. I would also question
• 19:17
  that premise. I'm not a customer. It implies
• 19:20
  you have a choice. Exactly. I can't opt out of
• 19:23
  being governed. Yeah, but in my view, the customer
• 19:27
  is a citizen, not a customer in like, will I
• 19:31
  choose which agency I'm going to be bothered
• 19:34
  by. That's why I'm questioning the business.
• 19:36
  But I'm just saying, I think if you talk to Scott,
• 19:38
  he probably, and I've talked to him once, so
• 19:40
  I don't want to interpret his words too much.
• 19:43
  But I think what he would say is something like
• 19:45
  what I'm saying, which is that everybody deserves
• 19:47
  the fact that, wait a minute, I'm paying for
• 19:48
  this crap. Like what Reagan said when he banged
• 19:52
  on this and I paid for this microphone. I'm going
• 19:55
  to use it. So I think every citizen should get
• 19:58
  amazing service, whether we call it customer
• 20:00
  service or citizen service. Well, therein lies
• 20:03
  the rub, if I may. So I actually have a question
• 20:04
  for you. I'm going to say this and then I have
• 20:06
  a question for you, Mark. But that's a hard balance
• 20:08
  to achieve. And therein lies the rub. As an example,
• 20:11
  as a small business owner who had a couple of
• 20:13
  projects where we were building out our space
• 20:15
  for the cigar lounge. Each time we had to go
• 20:16
  to City Hall and it was expensive and it slowed
• 20:19
  things down and they moved at their own pace.
• 20:21
  And their complaint at City Hall is always that
• 20:23
  they don't have enough staff. Well, more staff
• 20:25
  cost money. So is it, you know, how do we solve
• 20:28
  this problem? From my perspective, we solve this
• 20:30
  problem by having a much smaller government,
• 20:33
  fewer laws, fewer restrictions, more property
• 20:35
  rights, more personal liberty, and then you don't
• 20:37
  need a bigger staff to move this crap along.
• 20:41
  There are many who would disagree with me on
• 20:43
  that, and instead they go the opposite direction
• 20:44
  and go, let's add more laws to the books, but
• 20:46
  let's just have a bigger staff to do it. Budget
• 20:49
  -wise, that's two polar opposite directions,
• 20:52
  and you can't reconcile them. So there's the
• 20:54
  rub. But question for you, Mark, because you're
• 20:57
  very passionate when you speak, and you're very
• 20:58
  well informed, actually, and I really appreciate
• 21:00
  having you on here for both of those reasons.
• 21:02
  What you just said about, I'm going to, again,
• 21:04
  use air quotes, customer service or access to
• 21:07
  the government as a taxpaying citizen. Is that
• 21:10
  partly what has inspired you to make a run at
• 21:12
  city council? Because I know you personally,
• 21:14
  and you're not a giant fan of a lot of government
• 21:17
  in general, and I know that your preference typically
• 21:19
  would be to be a private citizen and stay a private
• 21:22
  citizen. But here you are. I think like others
• 21:26
  that have moved here for political freedom, I
• 21:30
  don't I don't want to be governed by politicians,
• 21:33
  first of all. And by that, I mean people that
• 21:36
  will sway with the wind for whatever their personal
• 21:38
  whatever feathers their own nest. I have some
• 21:42
  things to say about the North Idaho Republicans
• 21:44
  in that framework, but the other reason is probably
• 21:47
  Scott, you feel the same way as I don't have
• 21:50
  anywhere else to go. Like if this fails here,
• 21:53
  Where are you going to go if freedom fails in
• 21:56
  North Idaho's panhandle? Where do you go from
• 21:58
  here? That's right. I already did the underground
• 22:00
  drug kingpin tunnel that my minions had lit and
• 22:04
  ventilated. And I've come out on the other side
• 22:06
  in the Idaho panhandle. And if it's a nuclear
• 22:08
  holocaust up here, there's nowhere to go. Tell
• 22:10
  me more about this tunnel. Are they hiring? So
• 22:14
  this is my line in the sand. And so it starts
• 22:17
  at Post Falls. Like I have, of all the offices
• 22:19
  that I might possibly have been, you know, encouraged
• 22:23
  to run for, city council is the most boring.
• 22:26
  Like it, and it has the most risk because you
• 22:28
  have to vote on things like who's going to fill
• 22:30
  the potholes. We don't want the potholes and
• 22:31
  we don't like the government, but we want the
• 22:33
  government to fill the pothole. So if you don't
• 22:36
  tax me to fill the pothole, I'm going to vote
• 22:38
  you out, but I also don't want you to raise taxes.
• 22:40
  So it's kind of a catch -22 position, right?
• 22:43
  If you, you, where you feel like gosh, I'm just
• 22:46
  kind of a hypocrite for, you know, for being
• 22:48
  here in the first place. But the point is that
• 22:50
  I don't want to be governed by people that are
• 22:53
  comfortable with government. I agree. I'd like
• 22:56
  that, yeah. I mean, everybody who is in government,
• 22:59
  and they're essentially above me, is the right
• 23:01
  term. They're above me, whether they think of
• 23:02
  that or not. I want them to not be there. And
• 23:05
  I want them to not want to be there. It's like
• 23:07
  given the given a powerful job to the guy who
• 23:10
  doesn't want the job. Well, that's the guy you
• 23:11
  want having the job. If if you say who wants
• 23:14
  to volunteer to lead the the Cub Scouts on the
• 23:17
  camping trip up to Schweitzer, the guy whose
• 23:19
  hand flies up into the air, you don't want him
• 23:21
  doing it. Correct. Correct. Like as an example
• 23:25
  of a recent election for Cootin County Sheriff,
• 23:27
  that was on a personal level and a business level.
• 23:29
  I threw my support behind not the mainstream
• 23:32
  candidate who was Bob Norris. And I think in
• 23:35
  some ways, Bob Norris has a few good things,
• 23:38
  like everybody does usually a few good things,
• 23:39
  but the guy wanted the job so badly. I saw that
• 23:41
  and I went if you want to wear that badge too
• 23:45
  much red flag, you know, there's a classic of
• 23:48
  literature. If you guys have read democracy in
• 23:50
  America by de Tocqueville, he was a it was from
• 23:53
  the 1830s, a French diplomat who was sent here
• 23:55
  to, you know, whatever 50 years after the revolution,
• 23:58
  you know, the frogs are wondering how the American
• 24:00
  life was going. And de Tocqueville was here,
• 24:01
  I believe it was for about 10 years. And He's
• 24:04
  describing an America that did exist at some
• 24:07
  point. I don't know how long it actually went
• 24:09
  on for. Maybe not much longer than about when
• 24:11
  he was here. But he was describing people in
• 24:14
  political office who did not want to be there
• 24:16
  from a local to a national level. I just cannot
• 24:19
  wait to do my civic duty and serve in this field
• 24:22
  for Assistant Deputy Under Secretary of the Interior.
• 24:25
  And then I want to get back to my farm, please.
• 24:27
  That was what it was not a prestigious position.
• 24:30
  Nobody wanted to do it. Our next candidate is
• 24:33
  Ron Jacobson running for Post Falls Mayor. Welcome
• 24:36
  Ron. Thank you. I'm very conservative and yet
• 24:40
  one of the local groups who has endorsed me in
• 24:43
  the past opted to endorse an opponent because
• 24:46
  they stated he is the true conservative. But
• 24:49
  I always tell people, people pay taxes for services
• 24:52
  received in Coeur d 'Alene and it's our responsibility
• 24:55
  to provide those services. We provide water,
• 24:59
  wastewater, streets, and public safety. What
• 25:03
  do we spend other people's money on? Yeah, and
• 25:05
  I would disagree with him that it's just a corporation
• 25:08
  that exists to provide utilitarian benefits.
• 25:12
  For example, I think that we underuse our power
• 25:15
  of city ordinance. And I know that the hair went
• 25:18
  up on the back of your anarchist libertarian
• 25:21
  necks. But let me give you an example. So if
• 25:24
  the school district decided prior to the law
• 25:27
  being passed that banned it, that it was okay
• 25:30
  for men to be in girls locker rooms in the high
• 25:33
  school in Post Falls, I'd pass an ordinance saying
• 25:36
  no, it's not. And if you want to sue us over
• 25:38
  it, you can try. But we have the power of ordinance
• 25:42
  in the city to enforce things that are clear
• 25:46
  safety and moral choices that protect people.
• 25:49
  We can answer that for you real quick and say
• 25:51
  get out of the locker room with the power of
• 25:53
  ordinance. And so we get to decide as a community
• 25:55
  what that's going to be. So these are some of
• 25:57
  the ways that I think that we That it's more
• 25:59
  than that. And I think that Mayor Jacobson He's
• 26:03
  done a lot of good and I and I think that that
• 26:05
  that that needs to be We need to say thank you
• 26:08
  for your service for all of these, you know 30
• 26:10
  years Well, there's a lot of fear that Post Falls
• 26:13
  will follow the way of Coeur d 'Alene and it
• 26:15
  will if left to its own devices Yeah, a lot of
• 26:18
  folks don't want that a lot of folks in power
• 26:19
  do want that my campaign slogan is if you don't
• 26:21
  change directions You'll end up where you're
• 26:23
  headed and that's where we're headed. There is
• 26:25
  a rub though whether it's Trump and his executive
• 26:28
  orders or city council and ordinances, it's great
• 26:31
  until you're not in power. Yeah. And that's why,
• 26:35
  you know, we have the power of the first and
• 26:36
  second amendments. We as citizens can can say
• 26:39
  when we've had enough, we can vote different
• 26:42
  people in and we can't. But in the meantime,
• 26:45
  they can go a long way down to a particular direction
• 26:48
  with ordinances or or whether it's ordinances
• 26:51
  or not with the city council that won't listen
• 26:53
  for anybody's willing to Stack up in the doorway
• 26:56
  and do something about it. But anyways, I know
• 26:58
  Scott's giving me the look we need to zero it
• 26:59
  back Well, I have a like let's I would argue
• 27:02
  the First Amendment already did fail And I have
• 27:05
  an example right here of when people were stacked
• 27:07
  up at the doors. Maybe this will bring you back
• 27:10
  And another big story we are tracking for you
• 27:12
  at this hour. The Coeur d 'Alene Public School
• 27:14
  Board of Trustees was scheduled to meet today,
• 27:16
  but today's meeting never even got started. It
• 27:18
  was called off for safety concerns. Crematus
• 27:21
  Morgan Trowell was at the district office when
• 27:23
  a crowd showed up there and she's live in Coeur
• 27:24
  d 'Alene tonight to break down what happened.
• 27:26
  Morgan, this was by far the most contentious
• 27:30
  protest that I have been to in my coverage of
• 27:33
  the anti mask. rallies and right here is when
• 27:36
  it all came to a head. Let me just say quickly,
• 27:39
  there is no such thing as anti mask. We were
• 27:42
  just doing the same thing that everyone did before
• 27:44
  2020, which is not wearing masks. There's only
• 27:46
  pro mask of the anti mask rallies and right here
• 27:50
  is when it all came to a head. school board was
• 27:54
  supposed to be meeting to discuss requiring masks
• 27:57
  for students and staff and also visitors who
• 28:00
  are entering the school. But that didn't end
• 28:02
  up happening. In fact, it got canceled just minutes
• 28:05
  before it was supposed to begin, and that was
• 28:08
  all due to an angry crowd that was trying to
• 28:11
  get in. Hundreds of people started to gather
• 28:15
  outside the board meeting building. As the time
• 28:18
  got closer, the protesters got louder and more
• 28:21
  aggressive. The board members and police decided
• 28:24
  it was in the best interest to postpone the meeting
• 28:27
  due to safety concerns. Protesters didn't like
• 28:30
  that and ended up rallying outside of the district
• 28:32
  office, which then needed to be locked down.
• 28:37
  We're not here to cause problems. We're not here
• 28:39
  to fight. We're here to be listened to and for
• 28:40
  our children to go to school freely without mask.
• 28:42
  I'm tired of the mask. You know what you guys
• 28:47
  are doing to people. You're exploiting their
• 28:49
  fear. Many protesters say the school board members
• 28:55
  should be fired from their positions for refusing
• 28:57
  to hold the meeting. They say it is their body,
• 29:00
  their choice, and they should get to decide what
• 29:02
  happens with their kids. And the Coeur d 'Alene
• 29:04
  school says they are not sure when that follow
• 29:07
  up meeting will be to discuss mandating mass,
• 29:09
  but they said that they will let me know tonight
• 29:12
  in Coeur d 'Alene. I think that that clip is
• 29:17
  illustrative of why a lot of people voted with
• 29:19
  their U hauls and came here was because there's
• 29:22
  people actually outside of a building going.
• 29:26
  No, you're not. You're not going to control me
• 29:28
  with fear. Same thing with Gundelaine, right?
• 29:30
  A lot of people saw that and said, honey, call
• 29:32
  the realtor like that's where we need to live.
• 29:35
  Oh, Gundelaine, that one always cracks me up.
• 29:37
  Everybody meeting downtown to defend a bunch
• 29:38
  of business owners who don't share their politics
• 29:40
  and don't want them there. We just didn't want
• 29:44
  Antifa people in the city, right? I mean, I mean,
• 29:47
  court of lane. I don't know. Even though many
• 29:49
  of those people agreed with Antifa. That's what
• 29:50
  I'm saying. You should have let them just have
• 29:52
  what you wanted. So and I bring that up and I
• 29:55
  know you're going to hear a lot of me discussing
• 29:57
  the masks like you did in the first show and
• 30:00
  like I'm. Sorry like going forward I just because
• 30:03
  it's something that I can't particularly get
• 30:04
  over because or should you of the the lack of
• 30:07
  Reflection that so many people have had on on
• 30:10
  just how psychotic that particular behavior was
• 30:13
  The notion that you even think you have the authority
• 30:16
  to issue such an edict What kind of human being
• 30:19
  thinks they have the authority to force another
• 30:20
  human to cover their face? So that's part of
• 30:23
  the issue here and why I might I'm sorry if I
• 30:25
  sound cynical and I I don't Know but were you
• 30:28
  driving because I think I know where you're driving
• 30:29
  where I'm going here is These institutions have
• 30:32
  lost their credibility and in order for them
• 30:34
  to get it back There needs to be an acknowledgement
• 30:37
  of what went on and I don't hear a single person
• 30:40
  Acknowledging anything about what went on in
• 30:42
  the last few years. It's like it's like the whole
• 30:45
  thing never happened That's just gonna be what
• 30:47
  it is I don't think you're gonna get what you're
• 30:49
  looking for ever at the state level They did
• 30:51
  address it, but I know is unique in that case
• 30:53
  They're saying no you you need to have your emergency
• 30:56
  powers rolled back you need to not be allowed
• 30:58
  to mask people or force them to take experimental
• 31:01
  medications or any medication for that matter.
• 31:04
  So I'm proud of our Idaho legislature for doing
• 31:06
  that. Yeah, they've made some moves. I'd like
• 31:08
  to see them make a move where you can't shut
• 31:09
  businesses down and declare everybody non -essential
• 31:11
  again. Absolutely. And also the people that were
• 31:15
  for it, there needs to be a reckoning. If you're
• 31:17
  still in office and you were for it and you have
• 31:19
  not repudiated your own disgusting authoritarian
• 31:24
  view of it and realized that, hey, you made a
• 31:27
  mistake. Hey, I said I made a mistake about the
• 31:28
  Iraq war. and a few other wars for that matter,
• 31:32
  and some candidates that I've supported in the
• 31:33
  past. I've said, you know, I was wrong on that.
• 31:36
  And if you can't say that about masks, especially
• 31:38
  now with all we know about it, you forfeited
• 31:41
  your right to be in government. So that being
• 31:44
  said, I want to play the last part of Mayor Jacobson
• 31:47
  here. And now he was the mayor during all this,
• 31:50
  right? Has he made any statement about his behavior,
• 31:54
  declaring business is not essential? I think
• 31:57
  on masks, he has admitted that he was wrong on
• 31:59
  that. Here's the last part. People move to Pulse
• 32:02
  Falls for a reason. We don't recruit residential
• 32:05
  growth. People move here for a reason. They're
• 32:08
  not moving here because the city is unsafe, because
• 32:10
  our taxes are too high. Our streets are terrible
• 32:13
  and we have no parks. In fact, it's just the
• 32:15
  opposite. People are moving here because we have
• 32:17
  a safe city, wonderful parks. The streets are
• 32:21
  in good shape and our taxes are very well controlled.
• 32:24
  that not a single thing that he just said is
• 32:26
  a reason that I moved here. Now, I don't know
• 32:27
  what percentage of people that I speak for that
• 32:30
  moved here in recent times, but nothing about
• 32:33
  what he just said is has anything to do with
• 32:35
  why I moved here. Why did you move here? Because
• 32:38
  many of the higher concentration of the people
• 32:41
  here value liberty. It's as simple as nothing
• 32:44
  to do with parks. It has nothing to do with taxes.
• 32:46
  Now, I like a park. I like grass, you know, and
• 32:49
  like clean water and stuff. It's my premise is
• 32:52
  not that I don't value those things. My premise
• 32:54
  is I'm wondering if Ron Jacobson understands
• 32:58
  his own city. I would actually argue to his credit.
• 33:00
  He does. They just don't want to say the quiet
• 33:02
  part out loud. Well, then, but if you don't acknowledge
• 33:04
  it publicly from Jacobson's perspective and along
• 33:06
  with a lot of the NIR folks, they don't want
• 33:09
  to say that part out loud. They know it's a thing.
• 33:11
  They know the demographics up here are lean pretty
• 33:14
  heavy towards liberty, which is why they try
• 33:16
  to infiltrate. on the ballot box where they can
• 33:18
  and that's why they're trying to take over the
• 33:20
  Kootenai County precinct committee spots because
• 33:23
  they know that's the game they got to play to
• 33:24
  to win but the more that they say it out loud
• 33:28
  the more credence they give it they don't want
• 33:30
  to do that and I don't blame them and you know
• 33:32
  from Ron's perspective his answer makes perfect
• 33:34
  sense it's very utilitarian it's very dry it's
• 33:37
  very straightforward and it's you know this is
• 33:39
  how the job should be partisan politics should
• 33:42
  have nothing to do with it and you know this
• 33:44
  is how we've performed and we think it's good.
• 33:46
  Yeah, Scott, you and I both could have moved
• 33:48
  anywhere we picked here. So I think what Mayor
• 33:51
  Jacobson's saying is it can't be that bad because
• 33:54
  people that can go anywhere, they came here.
• 33:57
  Correct. Yeah. And so his point is, hey, look,
• 33:59
  I did a pretty good job, I guess, because the
• 34:01
  city doubled in size while I was here. Yeah,
• 34:03
  but they voted with their U -Hauls, right? It
• 34:06
  happened despite him, not because of him. I think
• 34:09
  you can make that case, you know, but if we get
• 34:12
  more efficient, if we govern with more of the
• 34:16
  person who moved here and the person who built
• 34:19
  this place. We take their shared values and we
• 34:23
  try to advance them more. Well, that's kind of
• 34:26
  where I'm coming from here is because they're
• 34:29
  not saying that quiet part out loud. I don't
• 34:31
  know that that's what they're thinking. I have
• 34:33
  to assume they're not because they're not saying
• 34:35
  it. Well, and you can look at the results too.
• 34:38
  Like with Mayor Jacobson, I just say, like I
• 34:40
  said, if you don't change direction, you'll end
• 34:41
  up where you're headed. He hasn't said he wanted
• 34:43
  to change direction. The city doubled in size.
• 34:45
  The prairie is being eaten up with houses. Most
• 34:48
  of the people that are moving here, we will like,
• 34:50
  is there anybody talking other than me about
• 34:52
  let's end the idea that private equity should
• 34:54
  be able to buy up all the houses and rent them
• 34:57
  back to the people. That's a fascinating topic.
• 35:00
  But I'm just saying that like whatever you don't
• 35:02
  like is the current administration helped bring
• 35:06
  it in unless they're advocating against it and
• 35:07
  they're not. So you need new people that are
• 35:10
  going to try to make new policies that are going
• 35:12
  to change things and change where we're headed.
• 35:15
  Let's do the last of the Post Falls Mayor's mayoral
• 35:19
  candidates and this is Randy Westland. For our
• 35:22
  next candidate we have Randy Westland who's running
• 35:24
  for Post Falls Mayor. Randy, please tell us a
• 35:27
  little bit about yourself. Yeah, my name is Randy
• 35:30
  Westland. I'm running for Post Falls Mayor, of
• 35:32
  course. I'm on the City Council right now, so
• 35:34
  I know how things work and where we can make
• 35:35
  some changes. If you are able to find budgetary
• 35:38
  savings or a more efficient way to do something,
• 35:40
  that should be rewarded. And all too often in
• 35:42
  government bureaucracy, it's not rewarded. And
• 35:44
  in fact, you have people who don't want to share
• 35:47
  that they found a better way to do their job
• 35:48
  because then they'll get more work. Right. And
• 35:50
  that's not healthy for an organization. And so
• 35:52
  I think if we can take, say, five percent of
• 35:54
  whatever efficiency gains that an employee is
• 35:57
  able to find and then give it to that person
• 35:59
  as a bonus. Now we're encouraging this sort of
• 36:01
  out of the box thinking we're encouraging a better
• 36:03
  way to do things and building this culture of
• 36:05
  continual improvement. this is why I like Randy,
• 36:08
  is he understands market forces and incentives
• 36:10
  and government by its very nature is disincentivized
• 36:15
  and the people who work in it are disincentivized
• 36:16
  to be efficient, to be fast, to be anything typically
• 36:20
  that is in the private sector we would consider
• 36:23
  necessary and positive to stay alive. As an example
• 36:26
  most everybody knows that in pretty much every
• 36:28
  agency that exists you get a budget let's say
• 36:29
  the budget's 10 million dollars if you spend
• 36:31
  nine million of the 10 million then they drop
• 36:32
  you down to nine the next year and every agency
• 36:34
  wants more money not less. So they're encouraged
• 36:36
  to just spend that, you know, that's a top level
• 36:39
  example, but it works across the board. I do
• 36:41
  like the concrete nature of the example he just
• 36:44
  gave. I can actually wrap my mind around exactly
• 36:46
  what it is he just said, rather than a lot of
• 36:49
  the sort of generalities I hear non specificity
• 36:52
  services, what services you talking about. I
• 36:55
  understand that it's a truncated forum, but I'm
• 36:57
  just I'm trying to give Randy credit for. giving
• 37:00
  me a specific example that I can actually wrap
• 37:02
  my mind around. What do you think about it, Mark,
• 37:03
  as a potential city council member who would
• 37:05
  potentially be under Randy, what do you think
• 37:08
  about that? I once ran for state legislature
• 37:11
  in 2008, I believe it was in another state. And
• 37:14
  during that, I advocated this exact policy and
• 37:17
  named it the Liberty Dividend. The Liberty Dividend
• 37:21
  is you get a percentage of whatever savings in
• 37:23
  any citizen, not just government employees. could
• 37:25
  suggest something that would save some process,
• 37:27
  a technology, whatever. And to your point about
• 37:31
  municipal budgets, if you have $10 million in
• 37:33
  your budget and you spend $9 million, why don't
• 37:35
  we give some people some efficiency bonus for
• 37:38
  not spending the million? And we'll dole out
• 37:40
  $20 ,000 or whatever of that to people for say,
• 37:43
  hey, good management. Thanks for not spending
• 37:45
  it. Otherwise, they're going to go buy a statue,
• 37:47
  right? Yeah, I think that's a pretty good idea.
• 37:49
  I think the only improvement I would make, and
• 37:51
  I don't know how realistic this is, it's probably
• 37:52
  not, but if there's a million left, Gosh darn
• 37:55
  it, give it back to us. That's crazy talk. I
• 37:57
  know it is crazy talk. That's easier said than
• 38:00
  done. But I like where you guys' heads are on
• 38:03
  that. I'm all for that too. Any ending fund balance
• 38:06
  should go back to the people. But what you shouldn't
• 38:08
  do is go buy a statue. Basically, it's a small
• 38:12
  tweak that would bring in different incentives
• 38:14
  to the government workforce that could have massive
• 38:17
  changes, positive changes for government and
• 38:20
  the taxpayer by result. Here's the last part
• 38:22
  of Randy. And so we need to be thinking about,
• 38:26
  like, what are we actually doing? And it's not
• 38:28
  just defining ourselves in terms of what we're
• 38:30
  against. I think that's a mistake a lot of people
• 38:31
  make, to say, I'm against this, and I'm against
• 38:33
  that, and we're going to fight about it. And
• 38:35
  my next question is always, OK, but what are
• 38:36
  you for? Liberty. What's important to you, right?
• 38:39
  What's the next thing? What do you care about?
• 38:41
  Liberty. And if you start talking about things
• 38:42
  in positive terms and positive vision, I think
• 38:45
  you can find common ground with people where
• 38:46
  maybe you didn't expect it, because we all want
• 38:48
  to have a nice place to live. We all want to
• 38:50
  have safe streets and good schools. My pinko
• 38:53
  adjacent friends, based on their behavior, seem
• 38:56
  to love dysfunction. They like graffiti, they
• 38:58
  like homeless people because they live amongst
• 39:00
  it, and they vote for the people who enable it,
• 39:03
  and they do not change anything about what they
• 39:04
  do. Whether or not they would say they like it
• 39:07
  or not, I'm watching what they do and not what
• 39:09
  they say. Well, that's nuts, Scott. I mean, of
• 39:11
  course they want like a clean park and they don't
• 39:12
  like stepping over homeless people. Well, really?
• 39:14
  Why do they continue to vote the same way? Now,
• 39:16
  I'm gonna push back on you on this one, Scott,
• 39:17
  just for grins. I think a lot of people just
• 39:19
  can't connect those dots. I think a lot of us
• 39:21
  at the one thousandth of you, the smaller of
• 39:24
  you, everybody, I think, generally does want
• 39:26
  a nice, clean neighborhood. They do want the
• 39:28
  grocery store around the block to function. We
• 39:30
  want we all tend to want those things are similar
• 39:33
  things just because we like our creature comforts.
• 39:35
  We like convenience and we'd like to be comfortable.
• 39:38
  But the issue is most folks, especially particularly
• 39:42
  on the left, don't connect the dots between policy
• 39:44
  and results like a child that's running through
• 39:47
  a glass shop and just knocking over everything.
• 39:49
  Right. but never looks back to see the destruction.
• 39:52
  It's always let's go forward with this policy,
• 39:54
  right? Let's just keep knocking stuff over because
• 39:56
  it's fun and it sounds good without turning around
• 39:58
  and looking at it. I think, Scott, that people
• 40:01
  I would agree with Randy, like people do want
• 40:04
  those clean areas and all that. And you're right.
• 40:06
  They keep voting for it. They don't make the
• 40:07
  connection, as Paul said, as to but they yeah,
• 40:10
  because they move out of those areas. You look
• 40:12
  at even like we were mentioning the Bay Area
• 40:14
  earlier. They they don't they live in Atherton.
• 40:18
  Right? Like they live in in San Jose or they
• 40:21
  live in, they live in places that aren't subject
• 40:23
  to their policies. They drive into those places
• 40:25
  and go, oh my gosh, somebody should clean this
• 40:27
  up. Why do we need a program? That's always their
• 40:29
  answer, by the way, is we need more funding for
• 40:32
  the homeless. We need more funding for not what
• 40:35
  we're doing doesn't work. We used to use the
• 40:37
  term limousine liberal. They don't think that
• 40:39
  they're the reason why these this, what I called
• 40:42
  societal rot earlier, and you kind of went up
• 40:44
  like, wait a minute, what morals are you about?
• 40:45
  I'm about stuff like this. Like you shouldn't
• 40:47
  have poop and needles and people stabbing each
• 40:49
  other in your street. I wouldn't call that a
• 40:51
  moral issue. I'd call that just common sense.
• 40:54
  But the things that lead to those conditions
• 40:58
  are moral issues. Oftentimes. That's a podcast
• 41:02
  for another time. Like Portland experimented
• 41:05
  with legalizing drugs, right? Hey, that's libertarian.
• 41:08
  Let's try that. and there's people dying of fentanyl
• 41:11
  in the streets every single day, and the downtown
• 41:14
  is being emptied out of people. They're all moving
• 41:16
  west to Beaverton and other places outside. They
• 41:19
  can't conduct business there. Same thing happened
• 41:22
  in the Bay Area, in San Francisco, in L .A. All
• 41:25
  of them metastasized. It's also illegal to smoke
• 41:28
  cigars indoors in all those places too, so maybe
• 41:30
  that's the correlation. It's not legalizing pot.
• 41:35
  criminalizing cigars. That's where they were
• 41:37
  wrong. Speaking of getting high, Coeur d 'Alene
• 41:40
  School District Trustee resigning after she was
• 41:42
  reportedly arrested for DUI. Easter Sunday morning,
• 41:46
  the Kootenai County Sheriff's Office says Allison
• 41:48
  Anderton was booked into and then released from
• 41:51
  the Kootenai County Jail by Post Falls Police.
• 41:54
  According to court documents, Anderton was pulled
• 41:56
  over near Beck Road and Expo Parkway. She reportedly
• 41:59
  was showing signs of impairment. And when police
• 42:02
  searched her vehicle, they reportedly found a
• 42:03
  burnt piece of tin foil and a dollar bill with
• 42:05
  white powder residue on it. In a statement, the
• 42:08
  board of trustees said. They were grateful for
• 42:10
  Annerton's service to the district. You want
• 42:12
  to get high? Yeah, I just I just love that. I
• 42:15
  love the part where it was on Easter. Yeah. Right.
• 42:18
  And so she celebrated Easter morning by smoking
• 42:20
  coke. He is risen. Yeah. Let's go to the Coeur
• 42:29
  d 'Alene mayoral race. Our first candidate is
• 42:33
  Woody McEvers running for Coeur d 'Alene mayor.
• 42:36
  Thank you for being here, Woody. There seems
• 42:38
  to be a growing political divide between conservatives
• 42:41
  and liberals. As mayor, how would you help find
• 42:44
  the middle ground to encourage people to work
• 42:46
  together? See, I hear that. I hear that all the
• 42:51
  time. I don't watch television. I don't watch
• 42:55
  the news. I read your paper. Speaking of drugs,
• 42:57
  this guy's mustache does pot. Describe how he
• 43:01
  looks. It's exactly like how he sounds. Long
• 43:05
  white hair and that white handlebar mustache.
• 43:08
  God love him. He almost would be an actual true
• 43:10
  hippie. He truly, you know, a child of the 60s
• 43:12
  type situation. He's soft spoken, he's very lovable,
• 43:16
  very likable. Didn't he play bass for the Strawberry
• 43:16
  Alarm Clock? I'm sure he played bass for a lot
• 43:19
  of different bands, depending on who paid the
• 43:21
  worst. But he's exactly what you'd expect based
• 43:24
  on how he looks and how he sounds. And actually,
• 43:26
  I don't think altogether. He's a terrible fellow,
• 43:29
  but he is a guy who has been in government for
• 43:32
  ever and ever and ever and will never leave.
• 43:34
  Classic Boomer will never ever leave. He won't
• 43:37
  die. He won't go away. He won't retire. He won't
• 43:39
  leave. You know, he's the guy who talks about
• 43:42
  why, why can't we all just get along? Why can't
• 43:44
  we have a civil conversation about me trying
• 43:46
  to steal more money from you? Kind of like if
• 43:48
  John Bolton did smoke pot. Yeah. Oh, actually.
• 43:51
  Yeah. John Bolton on drugs or soft drugs. John
• 43:54
  Bangalow? I watch television. I don't watch the
• 43:57
  news. I read your paper. That's about as far
• 43:59
  as I go. And I don't see it that way. I mean,
• 44:04
  it's talky. I guess if you're online and you're
• 44:08
  talking and it gets people upset, then that's
• 44:12
  what you're talking about. But in my world, I
• 44:15
  see people getting along. I think that's what
• 44:18
  it's about. It's like, oh, step back. Turn it
• 44:21
  off. It's not going anywhere. Everybody's thumping
• 44:25
  and stuff. This is like yin and yang. You're
• 44:29
  either for or against and I like to find happy
• 44:32
  mediums. There's compromise on both sides. Please
• 44:35
  don't steal money from me in the form of property
• 44:37
  taxes. Where's the compromise there, Woody? Do
• 44:41
  we get teleported to NPR studios? This is the
• 44:46
  people getting along in Coeur d 'Alene. You hear
• 44:49
  them in the background getting along? Man, this
• 44:50
  sounds like an NIC meeting. Chaos. Yeah, just
• 44:56
  chaos. What getting along sounds like. You ask
• 44:58
  Woody McEver. So Woody, what do you think about
• 45:01
  all the chaos? Oh, well. In my world. In my world,
• 45:06
  I just think there's a third option to the chaos,
• 45:09
  man. Yeah, but what are your policies? Oh, you
• 45:13
  you do what we say or we kill you. But we'll
• 45:17
  do it politely. Yeah, I know. We're just like
• 45:21
  we're just mocking and that's I know. I'm sorry.
• 45:24
  I can't help myself. It's not it's not like I
• 45:26
  said, we're not journalists. That's right. I'm
• 45:29
  not constrained by. Exactly. Let's listen to
• 45:33
  someone your dad brought up on episode one. Oh
• 45:36
  yeah, one of our favorites. Yeah, and this is
• 45:38
  Dan Gukin, also running for court. Real quick
• 45:39
  though, to his credit, I think Woody is actually
• 45:42
  a pretty gentle, nice guy. He seems like it.
• 45:44
  But he's a guy who's been in government forever.
• 45:46
  Speaking of, you know, seeing a change or a shift,
• 45:48
  I'd love to see him, you know, retire and enjoy
• 45:51
  his retirement, however him and his mustache
• 45:53
  see fit. For our next candidate, we have Dan
• 45:56
  Gukin. Danny, you'll have one minute to introduce
• 45:58
  yourself. Thank you, Javis. My name is Dan Gukin.
• 46:01
  I've been a Coeur d 'Alene resident since 2002.
• 46:05
  I've been on the city council since 2011 and
• 46:08
  I have been asked to run for mayor almost every
• 46:13
  mayor election since that time. People have wanted
• 46:15
  me there and I've always wanted to say no, but
• 46:18
  the things that transpired over the past year
• 46:21
  are even longer, show me that we need some leadership
• 46:24
  in City Hall. We need someone who's accountable,
• 46:26
  who's going to answer their emails, be responsive,
• 46:29
  someone who's going to take the lead and take
• 46:30
  charge and get things done. You can go to dangookin
• 46:34
  .com for all the details. Does that sound like
• 46:37
  a guy who doesn't want to run? For somebody who
• 46:39
  hates Trump as much as he does, he basically,
• 46:42
  you know, since I've moved here. Everybody has
• 46:45
  asked me to run for mayor. Every single election,
• 46:47
  they've asked me, you know what? You know what,
• 46:49
  Dan? You should run for mayor. And I'm like,
• 46:51
  no, no, because I'm so humble. But I finally
• 46:54
  decided this year I'm going to run for mayor
• 46:55
  and I'm going to take charge and we're going
• 46:57
  to beat those guys. You can go to dangookin .com
• 47:00
  for all the details. You can go to my website.
• 47:03
  It's a very nice website. In fact, I think it's
• 47:04
  the nicest website that we've ever created. Tremendous
• 47:07
  website. You can give me your pennies, your schmeckles.
• 47:09
  You know, we're very pro -Israel, so you can
• 47:11
  give me your schmeckles as well. And, you know.
• 47:14
  We're gonna we're gonna kick some kick some butt
• 47:16
  for all the details He's locking out like an
• 47:19
  anchor. So this guy actually has a podcast. That's
• 47:21
  why oh he does He does I forget what it's called
• 47:24
  is something rant or podcast for dummies. Is
• 47:26
  that what it's podcast with dummies So Dan's
• 47:28
  claim to fame is he wrote one or a couple of
• 47:30
  the first? Doss for dummies. Yeah. Yeah, and
• 47:34
  you know made a few bucks and has been rather
• 47:36
  self -important ever since actually at one point
• 47:38
  I Considered Dan to be a friend. He was He was
• 47:41
  an all right guy, but I think he is over the
• 47:43
  years descended into what the term that they
• 47:46
  like use is civility. There's no civility with
• 47:48
  that man, unfortunately. I just like the part
• 47:50
  where it's, you know, like they're trying to
• 47:52
  get you to play the guitar at the party and you're
• 47:54
  just on the like, no, no, I don't want to play.
• 47:56
  Come on, you got to play for us. Like it is a
• 47:58
  really charming premise that like, no, I'm I'm
• 48:01
  humble. I don't want to do this. They just they
• 48:03
  really want me to play the best guitar hard time.
• 48:05
  I've been playing guitar since I was six years
• 48:07
  old. Twelve string, six strings were too easy.
• 48:10
  Dan seems to be the most intelligent person on
• 48:14
  the city council. And when you listen to him
• 48:16
  speak, it's kind of like if you didn't know him
• 48:19
  and what he said on his podcasts and things,
• 48:21
  you would absolutely think this is a shoe in.
• 48:25
  I'm very encouraged and excited about the fact
• 48:28
  and, you know, cautiously, of course, that he's
• 48:30
  been attending Candlelight Church for the last
• 48:33
  six months, every Sunday almost, you know, because
• 48:35
  he said some pretty God -hating things on his
• 48:37
  podcast before. And so, you know, Pastor Paul
• 48:41
  Van Noy recently is in the news for inviting
• 48:44
  him up on stage and praying with him, as he does
• 48:46
  with all candidates. And I just said, like, I
• 48:49
  was excited to hear that he's going and I really
• 48:51
  pray that he will have a change of heart and
• 48:53
  that this is genuine. I'm, of course, skeptical
• 48:57
  like most people. That was going to be my question,
• 48:58
  Mark. I mean, not to ask you for a hot take,
• 49:01
  but I got to ask you for a hot take. Do you think
• 49:03
  it's legit? Because with a guy like Dan Gukin,
• 49:05
  he's cunning, he's clever, you never know. He
• 49:06
  is intelligent. I think if nothing else had started
• 49:09
  as, definitely started as political, but why
• 49:11
  do you go for six whole months? I mean, that's
• 49:13
  commitment, if that's why you're doing it. And
• 49:15
  I'm not putting that past him. That will be interesting
• 49:17
  to see. Okay, here is the last of the mayoral,
• 49:22
  this is the last one I have audio from. This
• 49:24
  is John Pulsifer, still on Coeur d 'Alene Mayor.
• 49:27
  Our next candidate is John Pulsifer. He's still
• 49:29
  in the race. Thank you for being here, John.
• 49:31
  Sort of. Thanks for having me. Well, wait, why
• 49:33
  do you say that? You and I had talked about that.
• 49:35
  OK, so remind me there's a little bit of a controversy
• 49:37
  or maybe a lot depending on who you are surrounding
• 49:39
  Mr. Pulsiver. It came to light a few weeks back
• 49:41
  that he had sent a letter to Mr. Woody saying,
• 49:46
  you know, you should probably step down. You
• 49:48
  should make way for me. But don't worry. Now,
• 49:50
  I'm paraphrasing here, but it's public record
• 49:52
  so anybody can go look it up with the Coeur d
• 49:54
  'Alene press ran it, you know, so if the Coeur
• 49:56
  d 'Alene press was really to run it, willing
• 49:58
  to run it, you know. Anyways, the gist of it
• 50:01
  was basically. Your time has come, old man. Step
• 50:03
  down, make way for somebody else. But don't worry.
• 50:06
  I will reserve a place for you in my cabinet.
• 50:09
  A paid position. Mayors don't have cabinets,
• 50:11
  but you get the idea. There will be a place for
• 50:13
  you. Special advisor. Golden parachutes in government
• 50:17
  are just the best. OK, well, as far as I know,
• 50:20
  he's still active in the race. I'm actually surprised
• 50:22
  about that. I've kind of been waiting. All right.
• 50:24
  But anyways, let's play it. Let's see what he
• 50:25
  has to say. Thanks for having me. First question
• 50:27
  is, what do you see as the key role of the mayor?
• 50:31
  Yeah, so the key role of the mayor is to be the
• 50:33
  leader of the city. What was that? Backroom deals.
• 50:36
  The secret handshake. So the key role of the
• 50:38
  mayor is to be the leader of the city. Okay,
• 50:41
  I would challenge the notion of using the word
• 50:43
  leader with regard to government, to politicians
• 50:47
  and bureaucrats. What word would you use? Representative.
• 50:50
  What word would you use, Mark? I think you're
• 50:52
  both right. I mean, not to be the politician.
• 50:55
  Okay, Woody. In my world, man. You're both right.
• 51:00
  You're both good. And I say that because when
• 51:02
  things are framed that way, that's top down.
• 51:06
  I was the leader of the company that I founded
• 51:09
  in California. I'm the leader of this podcast.
• 51:11
  I wasn't representing anybody except myself as
• 51:14
  the owner, and of course the other owners, but
• 51:16
  I was representing ownership. So i'm the leader
• 51:19
  of the company in this case we're the leaders
• 51:21
  the people are the leaders and the politicians
• 51:24
  and bureaucrats are representatives or of course
• 51:27
  that's supposed to be true but i'm i'm hearing
• 51:29
  the word leader used basically across the board
• 51:32
  by almost everybody that is running for these
• 51:35
  positions is using the word leader and i know
• 51:37
  why they're doing it because they're saying well
• 51:39
  i'm gonna i'm leading up the administrative bureaucracy
• 51:42
  i'm saying that even leaning toward using that
• 51:46
  particular word betrays a way of thinking about
• 51:49
  the office that I don't think is representative
• 51:51
  of a representative republic. I think it's societal
• 51:54
  conditioning, though, as well. I mean, think
• 51:55
  of all the different organizations and all the
• 51:57
  different things out there for our kids on up
• 51:59
  that uses the term leader. And it's, you know,
• 52:01
  about youth leadership or leadership in this
• 52:03
  or leadership in business or being a good leader,
• 52:06
  et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So I think that's
• 52:08
  just conditioning. And I don't mind it as long
• 52:11
  as as long as we have in the back of our mind
• 52:14
  what we hear is we have what you're warning us
• 52:16
  against Scott, which is thinking of these people
• 52:18
  as like we're subject to them. Right. We're not.
• 52:20
  They're subject to us. And we need to remind
• 52:22
  them of that time and again, as he probably means
• 52:25
  it again. I don't know, like secretly he might
• 52:28
  be like, I'm going to take over the world. And
• 52:30
  I'm not even a sir. I'm not saying that I'm just
• 52:32
  saying it's so it's so the framing is so ubiquitous
• 52:34
  and the language is so ubiquitous that it To
• 52:37
  like that's how people are gonna start thinking
• 52:39
  about it Which is why everybody uses that word
• 52:41
  to refer to politicians and bureaucrats and why
• 52:44
  it's important to define the terms exactly Yep,
• 52:46
  he says I'm gonna lead the city I mean you certainly
• 52:49
  could push back now the you know, boss Hagadon's
• 52:51
  not gonna push back on it But you should push
• 52:54
  back on it and say well, what do you mean by
• 52:55
  the lead? But you know probably using that in
• 52:58
  the vernacular I'm gonna be the mayor and and
• 53:02
  say this we should have more of this and less
• 53:04
  of that based on what my constituents want. Okay,
• 53:08
  well, right. And that's what that that's the
• 53:10
  hope. But you know, so yeah, you administer,
• 53:12
  you coordinate, you represent policies and priorities
• 53:14
  established by we the people who are the leaders.
• 53:17
  So you're not the leader of the city, the people
• 53:19
  are the leaders of the city, you are a representative.
• 53:21
  And your caution is very well taken as a broader
• 53:24
  and sorry, I keep broadening your scope beyond
• 53:26
  the panhandle. But it extrapolates the definition
• 53:30
  of terms is so critical. Well, and it's it's
• 53:33
  just that sort of language that leads to a paternalistic
• 53:37
  attitude taken by politicians and bureaucrats
• 53:40
  and a subordinate attitude taken by the public,
• 53:43
  which is part of Yeah, but yeah, it betrays a
• 53:46
  mindset. I'm sorry I interrupt you just got the
• 53:47
  leadership aspect of it to just hammer your point
• 53:49
  home It betrays a particular mindset that you
• 53:51
  have how you talk about yourself as a candidate
• 53:53
  or as a politician betrays your mindset Thank
• 53:56
  you. Okay here on day one. I have to meet with
• 54:00
  the wonderful company that's hosting us today,
• 54:02
  the Hagadon Corporation, because the quarterly
• 54:05
  budget is not break even. It's in the red. And
• 54:09
  we need the Hagadon Corporation to do what they've
• 54:11
  always done, which is step up for the community.
• 54:14
  If they can add a line item on their hotel bill,
• 54:18
  2%, 3 % for tourists to pay a little bit extra
• 54:22
  money and then remit that directly to the city,
• 54:25
  then tourists will also be helping to fund our
• 54:27
  streets, our parks. our first responders. I'm
• 54:31
  pretty sure they just plucked this guy out of
• 54:32
  Sandpoint. He's not from Sandpoint originally,
• 54:34
  but this guy talks like he's from California,
• 54:36
  but living in Sandpoint, and they plucked him
• 54:38
  out for this race. It shouldn't be a resort tax.
• 54:40
  Maybe it should be a dental care tax. For every
• 54:42
  tooth that he pulls, he has to give 50 % to the
• 54:46
  city. Not of the profit. 50 % of the entire sale
• 54:48
  of that whole tooth for my roads in Coeur d 'Alene.
• 54:52
  And his clients. His clients only. Let's see
• 54:54
  how he does. If you want to be for a resort tax,
• 54:56
  that's fine. But the way that he said it, I think,
• 54:58
  was inartful, let's say. You're very gracious,
• 55:02
  Mark. I'm trying to be. That's one of those brake
• 55:05
  pedals, like I was saying. I want to say something,
• 55:07
  but I'm just going to say it could have been
• 55:09
  said better. I want to start a new thing. I don't
• 55:12
  know how it's going to go. We'll talk about this
• 55:13
  later. Where's Waldo? But where's the lizard
• 55:15
  person? And we found our lizard person for this
• 55:19
  race. It is Pulsifer. He is our lizard person,
• 55:22
  for sure. The way the guy just immediately went
• 55:24
  to Big Daddy. Haggadon on day one on day one
• 55:28
  going. Oh recognizing that the squirreling budget
• 55:31
  is is busted They have to do what they go to
• 55:33
  daddy war bucks daddy Haggadon for money and
• 55:36
  not of course It doesn't come out of Haggadon.
• 55:38
  It comes out of Haggadon's custody. You got to
• 55:40
  hose the public We're gonna hose other people
• 55:43
  through Haggadon for the road and you know, they're
• 55:45
  gonna be happy to do it. Yes I like boss. Haggadon.
• 55:47
  Yeah, that was good. Yeah So this guy has already
• 55:50
  shown that he is willing to do backward deals.
• 55:52
  No worries, I'm here to help. Sorry, go ahead.
• 55:55
  Love the accent on that AI, by the way. I'm telling
• 55:58
  you what, what a time to be alive. Like when
• 55:59
  you've played that a couple times, the AI...
• 56:02
  Got it. If you have any more questions or need
• 56:05
  any clarification, just let me know. I'm happy
• 56:07
  to assist with whatever you need. At least our
• 56:10
  overlords will be sipping tea at three in the
• 56:13
  afternoon. No, I'm having 1776 flashbacks. He's
• 56:16
  British again. No. Will you pipe down? I'm trying
• 56:20
  to ask him where Pulsifer is from. Where is Coeur
• 56:24
  d 'Alene mayoral candidate John Pulsifer originally
• 56:26
  from? It's thinking. That's a tough one, huh?
• 56:34
  is originally from Idaho. No, I don't believe
• 56:39
  that for a minute. If he is, it's Boise. There's
• 56:42
  only one place that that guy could be eagle or
• 56:44
  Boise, like where stuff like that goes down.
• 56:48
  Well, it takes all kinds. I suppose you know
• 56:50
  what, they probably kept him in there. Just so
• 56:53
  it's like in retail, where you have products,
• 56:55
  you know, fly off the shelves, you have products,
• 56:57
  you're trying to push and if products, you know,
• 56:59
  will never sell, and you put them all together,
• 57:01
  and you've got them side by side, and they all
• 57:03
  look great. And you fully expect the one that
• 57:06
  never sell. And that's OK. You just keep a few
• 57:07
  of those on hand. That's OK. You know the one
• 57:09
  that's going to fly off your shelf. You don't
• 57:10
  have to work that hard. But the one you're really
• 57:11
  trying to push is the one in the middle. And
• 57:14
  Pulsifer is the one that they're not actually
• 57:17
  trying to sell. But they're giving the illusion
• 57:19
  of choice and also using it as a contrast. I
• 57:22
  guarantee you that's what's going on. Pulsifer
• 57:24
  is the contrast to the other two who are more
• 57:26
  centrist. They are cleaner. they have a better
• 57:29
  reputation, the whole nine. So that is what Pulsifer's
• 57:33
  role is in that race now. Whether he knows it
• 57:35
  or not remains to be seen. I bet you he does,
• 57:38
  and I bet you they probably have talked about
• 57:39
  it behind closed doors. At the Hayden Lake Country
• 57:42
  Club. No, no, at Boss Hagedon's place. Oh yeah,
• 57:44
  Boss Hagedon. Are we at the end? Then tourists
• 57:47
  will also be helping to fund our streets, our
• 57:50
  parks, our first responders. So his profile here
• 57:53
  says, my family, North Idaho has been our home
• 57:55
  for nearly 20 years. He says 20 years ago he
• 57:58
  brought his girlfriend to meet his parents. Now
• 58:01
  you know what's interesting is, again, speaking
• 58:03
  of the mainstream media and the press, you don't
• 58:05
  hear anybody on that side of things complaining
• 58:08
  about Pulsifer not being a local. Now they complain
• 58:11
  about a lot of other folks not being locals when
• 58:13
  they're politically involved, but it always seems
• 58:16
  to be the politically involved conservatives
• 58:18
  that the press and Hagedon and the Coeur d 'Alene
• 58:21
  Cartel and the NIR complain about. They're not
• 58:23
  friends. It's whoever is not giving us power.
• 58:27
  funding us like we like and then if that switches
• 58:29
  and suddenly we don't like them anymore, right
• 58:31
  and and You know, like if tobacco companies were
• 58:35
  funding Democrats then Democrats would be all
• 58:37
  for tobacco companies again spoiler alert Yeah
• 58:40
  tobacco companies fund everybody anything and
• 58:42
  everything they play all sides the big ones the
• 58:45
  big tobacco doesn't and they're completely in
• 58:47
  direct conflict with the industry I was a part
• 58:49
  of which was premium tobacco pipes cigars like
• 58:52
  the good stuff Yeah, big daddy tobacco actually
• 58:54
  works hard to put us into the ground, too we're
• 58:56
  not the same thing. I wanted to harp one more
• 59:00
  time on the notion of what he's saying the tourist
• 59:03
  fee is going to fund, which by the way, didn't
• 59:05
  he say he had two million dollar, approximately
• 59:08
  two million dollar annual budget shortfall for
• 59:10
  the city of Coeur d 'Alene? Then tourists will
• 59:12
  also be helping to fund our streets, our parks,
• 59:15
  our first responders. I looked up the percentage
• 59:19
  of the Coeur d 'Alene city budget that goes toward
• 59:22
  administrator and full -time employee salary
• 59:25
  and benefits it's 80 percent yes it is okay so
• 59:27
  and actually there's a list out there i haven't
• 59:30
  been able to find a most a recent one but once
• 59:32
  upon a time you could find a list of all of the
• 59:34
  quarter lane city employees who made six figures
• 59:37
  yeah there's a lot of them there are dozens and
• 59:39
  dozens and dozens of them it's it's incredible
• 59:41
  how much money they spend on staff what also
• 59:44
  never gets mentioned is how much money the city
• 59:45
  has spent on art the good old arts commission
• 59:48
  that likes to spend millions of dollars on art
• 59:51
  from artists who aren't from here, most of which
• 59:53
  representing concepts and things that most of
• 59:55
  us don't agree with or find distasteful. So we
• 59:56
  don't have the budget balanced, we can't balance
• 59:59
  the budget, but we can spend money on art, we
• 1:00:01
  can give dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens
• 1:00:04
  of bureaucrats six -figure salaries. And the
• 1:00:07
  answer is to squeeze the tourists and never acknowledge
• 1:00:11
  at any point any of the things we're talking
• 1:00:13
  about. And I know it can sound like sour grapes
• 1:00:15
  or it can sound like cynicism, but if it doesn't
• 1:00:18
  get acknowledged, I have to assume you love the
• 1:00:20
  way that that is set up and you wish to continue
• 1:00:22
  it. And you only want to increase revenue so
• 1:00:25
  that you can continue to hammer yourselves with
• 1:00:27
  your salary and benefits. And here's where it
• 1:00:29
  gets better. Pulsifer basically just said the
• 1:00:31
  quiet part out loud. The other two agree with
• 1:00:33
  him. There's only one candidate for this mayoral
• 1:00:35
  race in Coeur d 'Alene that is actually a, you
• 1:00:38
  know, kind of a libertarian conservative or what
• 1:00:40
  have you. The other three are not. Pulsifer just
• 1:00:42
  did them the job of, again, like I said, by contrast.
• 1:00:44
  So he said it, it's not a likeable thing, but
• 1:00:46
  the other two agree with it. Those policies,
• 1:00:49
  whichever one gets elected, either one will quietly
• 1:00:51
  implement those policies. But Pulsifer, you know,
• 1:00:54
  says it out loud. I think this is the last of
• 1:00:56
  it. I'm going to come up with ideas that help.
• 1:00:58
  Move the ball forward for everybody. We need
• 1:01:00
  tourism for everybody. Yeah, except tourists.
• 1:01:02
  What do you say? We need tourism for everybody.
• 1:01:05
  We need tourism to work better for everybody.
• 1:01:07
  Except for you guys over there tourism to work
• 1:01:09
  for our payroll city payroll. That's what it's
• 1:01:13
  working for. At least 80 % of it. That's the
• 1:01:14
  number. 80 % of what you just described is so
• 1:01:17
  you can pay yourself. This is another problem,
• 1:01:19
  by the way, with with calling us customers as
• 1:01:21
  if you are a business, you are not a business,
• 1:01:24
  you function the exact opposite of a business,
• 1:01:26
  you do not earn your revenue, you take it by
• 1:01:28
  force, you pay yourselves first, and then whatever's
• 1:01:32
  left over, you delegate out to your quote, customers,
• 1:01:35
  that is the precise inversion of how a business
• 1:01:37
  works, you have to earn your customers, they
• 1:01:40
  have to come spend their dollars voluntarily,
• 1:01:41
  and you pay yourself dead last. Yep. Let me push
• 1:01:44
  back a little bit. Would you rather have tourists
• 1:01:46
  paying for your city services? Or were you paying
• 1:01:50
  for your city services? I don't buy your premise.
• 1:01:52
  It's not city services. I'm not surprised. The
• 1:01:54
  premise is wrong. It's not the city services
• 1:01:56
  that it's paying for. This is my shocked face.
• 1:01:59
  You can't see it because there's no camera. Well,
• 1:02:02
  we both have radio faces. So that's why we went
• 1:02:04
  with the no camera thing. It's administrator
• 1:02:06
  salaries that it's paying for. It's not my services.
• 1:02:08
  It's so they can pay themselves. But I actually
• 1:02:10
  will answer. I'm sorry, Scott, I'm interrupting
• 1:02:11
  again. But I'm going to answer your question,
• 1:02:13
  Mark, and it's not the best of answers. But if
• 1:02:15
  you're asking what do I want or what do we want,
• 1:02:17
  I would say, Spend less money. The answer in
• 1:02:20
  my book is nearly always cut. Cut. To what point
• 1:02:26
  though? I'm not even going to split hairs about
• 1:02:29
  whether we consider them services or not because
• 1:02:30
  we already agree on that. Again, because it's
• 1:02:33
  compulsory. It's not a business. So they're not
• 1:02:36
  services, but they provide them to us. They force
• 1:02:38
  us to pay for them. So we're already past that.
• 1:02:40
  Let's go to how do we come up with the money.
• 1:02:43
  Cut. So when you get to the end of your cuts,
• 1:02:47
  you still have a city The city has to comply
• 1:02:49
  with laws. Like I said, if you file a building
• 1:02:52
  permit, somebody has to be there to process it.
• 1:02:54
  That person needs to be paid unless you're going
• 1:02:55
  to volunteer for the job. So we have some city
• 1:02:59
  quote services. Would you rather have tourists
• 1:03:01
  paying that or you get property taxed for it?
• 1:03:04
  The tourists. So I think that it's not my problem
• 1:03:07
  is not with whether or not there should be a
• 1:03:09
  tourist tax. The question is, does that tourist
• 1:03:12
  tax lower the tax burden on the people that live
• 1:03:14
  here? Well, that's the thing, it won't. And here's
• 1:03:15
  why it won't. I agree it won't. Because now they
• 1:03:16
  have more money to spend. Because they'll spend
• 1:03:18
  it on... They'll spend it anyways. Just look
• 1:03:20
  at the city of Sandpoint. They've used the model
• 1:03:22
  of taxing tourists into oblivion and taxing those
• 1:03:24
  Airbnbs and things like that into oblivion. But
• 1:03:26
  the flowerpots. Look at the flowerpots. I tell
• 1:03:28
  you what, for like the one street in Sandpoint
• 1:03:31
  that they really, really work on, it sure is
• 1:03:34
  pretty. Let's take a quick little mid show breather
• 1:03:38
  here in order to explain the concept of this
• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:58
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:05
  like customers. Yes. Yeah. And this is a business.
• 1:04:08
  At least it's a semblance of what we hope to
• 1:04:10
  be one at some point. But we actually did generate
• 1:04:13
  some revenue, like a business that was voluntarily
• 1:04:17
  given to us. And we haven't spent it all on art
• 1:04:20
  or salaries yet. Not yet. Although I have a nice
• 1:04:22
  metal sculpture of a cock and balls out in the
• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:31
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:34
  He says, in the morning gents, I enjoyed the
• 1:05:36
  first episode, nice work. By the way, in the
• 1:05:38
  morning is show lingo from No Agenda, which we
• 1:05:42
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  model from. So thank you very much, Sir Dan the
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  Quiet Man. ITM gents, I enjoyed the first episode,
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  nice work. I lived in Coeur d 'Alene and the
• 1:05:51
  surrounding area from 1976 to 1984, and I still
• 1:05:55
  miss it today. made my way there from the DC
• 1:05:58
  suburbs when I was 18 my girlfriend's family
• 1:06:01
  moved there he says in parentheses Air Force
• 1:06:04
  and I followed so this is something when I mentioned
• 1:06:07
  this to you when this came in Paul you you said
• 1:06:10
  that this kind of tracks with the sort of strange
• 1:06:13
  notion that people follow what's going on here
• 1:06:15
  even if they have nothing to do with here or
• 1:06:18
  haven't had anything to do with here in a long
• 1:06:19
  time. Yeah, actually, it's an interesting phenomenon.
• 1:06:21
  I don't know if it's unique to this place, because
• 1:06:23
  I don't have a large sampling size. I've lived
• 1:06:25
  here most of my life. But it is an interesting
• 1:06:27
  aspect of living here. Oh, first off, by the
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  donator, Sir Dan, the Quiet Man, who, by the
• 1:06:42
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• 1:06:45
  Dan the Quiet Man. You rock. Wow. Unexpected,
• 1:06:49
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• 1:07:06
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• 1:07:08
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• 1:07:11
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• 1:07:14
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• 1:07:16
  this next one preferred to remain anonymous,
• 1:07:18
  so I will not say their name. It was $72. Panhandle
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  Politics is a microcosm of national politics
• 1:07:26
  complete with duplicitous individuals as well
• 1:07:28
  as media. Your help to make sense of this morass
• 1:07:31
  is greatly appreciated. Keep it up. I prefer
• 1:07:35
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• 1:07:37
  I will say that. Well, thank you, anonymous.
• 1:07:39
  And again, yeah, no ID show calm, you can go
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  find everything you need there. So with that
• 1:07:43
  said, let's continue on here with our breakdown
• 1:07:46
  of the candidates for all of these different
• 1:07:48
  apparatuses. We are done with Coeur d 'Alene
• 1:07:51
  Mayor. Let's now do I've just got one here from
• 1:07:54
  the Coeur d 'Alene school board. And this is
• 1:07:57
  Thomas center. And now we're going to turn to
• 1:08:00
  our Coeur d 'Alene School Board, and we have
• 1:08:03
  tonight with us Thomas Sanner. What is your take
• 1:08:06
  on the use of public money for private schools
• 1:08:09
  and homeschoolers? That's interesting. That's
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  probably one of the reasons that I became interested
• 1:08:18
  in the school board position. The House Bill
• 1:08:22
  93 I feel personally that it's going to bankrupt
• 1:08:26
  the public school system. And I just feel that
• 1:08:30
  giving money to private schools that have no
• 1:08:34
  accountability for what the students are going
• 1:08:38
  to have to show for themselves is pretty important.
• 1:08:42
  So his whole premise is completely ignorant right
• 1:08:45
  off the bat. The idea that private schools are
• 1:08:48
  not accountable. Right off the bat. You know
• 1:08:49
  who they're most accountable to? Their customers.
• 1:08:52
  If they weren't doing it, here's the beautiful
• 1:08:54
  thing about private school versus public school.
• 1:08:56
  And when I say private school, you can think
• 1:08:59
  homeschool as well. They all have different features.
• 1:09:02
  But with private school, you have to do a good
• 1:09:04
  job or you cease to exist just like any other
• 1:09:06
  business. If your customers, i .e. the parents,
• 1:09:09
  think you are doing a poor job and the results
• 1:09:12
  don't speak for themselves, you fail. biggest
• 1:09:16
  problem with public education is that you can
• 1:09:19
  do as bad as possible and trust me, it's a race
• 1:09:21
  to the bottom and they never go out of business.
• 1:09:25
  So that right there, just conceptually the premise
• 1:09:27
  is incorrect. Then numbers wise, it will not
• 1:09:31
  bankrupt public school because you know how much
• 1:09:32
  of the Idaho state budget is spent on some form
• 1:09:35
  or another of public education? It's 65%. 65
• 1:09:40
  % of the entire state budget. And then what's
• 1:09:43
  left over is mainly like Medicaid, which is another
• 1:09:45
  humongous chunk. And what do they call those
• 1:09:48
  entitlement programs and things like that? There's
• 1:09:50
  very little leftover that's actually discretionary.
• 1:09:52
  Every year they always claim Idaho is at the
• 1:09:54
  bottom of the barrel for education funding. And
• 1:09:56
  they're not actually wrong as far as per pupil
• 1:09:59
  spending. Idaho does rank you 49th or 50th. However,
• 1:10:02
  when they tally up the test scores and the overall
• 1:10:05
  results, Idaho ranks right about in the middle.
• 1:10:07
  Proving very easily that throwing more money
• 1:10:10
  at the problem does not make for a better solution
• 1:10:13
  as California or New York I mean they spend thirty
• 1:10:16
  forty thousand dollars per student and and their
• 1:10:20
  bottom of the barrel years ago there was something
• 1:10:22
  in Missouri where a court case required them
• 1:10:24
  to spend more and they had to like double the
• 1:10:27
  amount of money that they were spending on school
• 1:10:31
  on public schools and The scores all went down.
• 1:10:35
  So it's not it's not a Yeah, the system's broken.
• 1:10:39
  It doesn't matter how much it's like, it's just
• 1:10:41
  like I said, it's like if you're, if you want
• 1:10:43
  to go from here to Bozeman and you head west,
• 1:10:46
  it doesn't matter how fast you go, like how much
• 1:10:48
  money. Well, eventually you'd come back around
• 1:10:50
  the other side. Eventually, you would go into
• 1:10:53
  the Pacific. But, and that's where our schools
• 1:10:55
  are headed, by the way, too, is, is right into
• 1:10:58
  the Marialis Trench. Yeah. And they're not broken,
• 1:11:00
  by the way. I'll just give a little more of my
• 1:11:02
  own commentary. They're not broken. They're doing
• 1:11:04
  exactly what they're designed to do. Oh, exactly.
• 1:11:07
  We had a good homeschool discussion about that
• 1:11:09
  before I left to come here with my 12 year old
• 1:11:12
  son. So we know immediately now, just with this
• 1:11:15
  one sentence, we know where this fellow stands.
• 1:11:18
  What percentage of Idaho students are going to
• 1:11:22
  private school? As of 2021, about 5 .7 % of students
• 1:11:29
  in Idaho were enrolled in private school. Under
• 1:11:31
  6%. So in other words, it's going to bankrupt
• 1:11:35
  the state. If we give, by the way, it's refunds
• 1:11:39
  on taxes you've already paid. It's a tax credit,
• 1:11:41
  by the way. It's not money that just goes directly
• 1:11:44
  into your pocket just because you have a kid
• 1:11:45
  enrolled. You have to fill out the paperwork.
• 1:11:47
  You have to apply for it. And it's essentially
• 1:11:48
  getting your money back. Your own money back.
• 1:11:50
  Yes. And even if you don't fully pay. So maybe
• 1:11:52
  you're in a... And it's income capped as well.
• 1:11:55
  So if you make, I believe it's more than $89
• 1:11:57
  ,000. I didn't catch that number. I guess it
• 1:11:59
  is capped. It's not quite six figures, but it's
• 1:12:01
  close to there. So if you make anything at or
• 1:12:03
  above that, you don't even... Qualify thank you
• 1:12:06
  qualify this word I'm looking for which is a
• 1:12:08
  travesty like why should you have to fund if
• 1:12:10
  you make? $92 ,000 keep in mind. I agree, but
• 1:12:14
  that sounds like a lot in North Idaho It's not
• 1:12:16
  but if you arrived recently and paid six hundred
• 1:12:19
  thousand dollars for a you know, three -bedroom
• 1:12:21
  house It's not a lot of money. So why shouldn't
• 1:12:24
  you get your money? Okay prioritize I think it's
• 1:12:27
  one of the only ways they could they could try
• 1:12:29
  to get it through, you know, there's Concessions
• 1:12:31
  that have to be made to make it palatable enough
• 1:12:32
  to get it through and that was probably because
• 1:12:34
  the public school Lobby was saying that that
• 1:12:36
  it's only going to benefit the rich It also doesn't
• 1:12:38
  count for homeschooling my wife and I we homeschool
• 1:12:41
  our our two kids that are of school age now We
• 1:12:43
  have a third who's you know seven months old
• 1:12:45
  so we'll be homeschooling him as well But it
• 1:12:48
  doesn't count for us. We can't we cannot you
• 1:12:50
  can't It is very narrow, actually. It's very,
• 1:12:53
  very narrow. HB93. I know my dad thought so too.
• 1:12:55
  Yeah, I did too. But so, like, it doesn't apply
• 1:12:59
  to homeschool at all? Or the criteria are just
• 1:13:01
  really strict? Well, for us, it's because we
• 1:13:03
  utilize a couple of, now we're going down a rabbit
• 1:13:05
  hole real quick, but if you utilize a state program
• 1:13:07
  that is called Home Ed 360, that's one of them.
• 1:13:12
  There's a couple others, which are programs that
• 1:13:14
  give you, we're talking breadcrumbs worth of
• 1:13:16
  money, but you get $1 ,200 for the year. to be
• 1:13:21
  reimbursed for curriculum that you might buy
• 1:13:23
  for your children and things like that. It also
• 1:13:25
  does come along with certain courses that you
• 1:13:27
  can or cannot take. I think once you hit the
• 1:13:29
  high school level though, there's required courses.
• 1:13:30
  So like my daughter's in high school, there's
• 1:13:32
  courses she's got to take. She has teacher check
• 1:13:34
  -ins every week. There's a particular path laid
• 1:13:36
  out for it. We do get some money back for materials
• 1:13:39
  that we buy that are supplemental. It's like
• 1:13:42
  $1 ,200 for the whole year. So it's, you know,
• 1:13:45
  it's breadcrumbs. And it's technically considered
• 1:13:48
  a program within the state of Idaho program.
• 1:13:51
  It's not run by the state of Idaho, but because
• 1:13:53
  it's affiliated with the state of Idaho, it's
• 1:13:56
  considered public education. If you take the
• 1:13:59
  shackles, you take the shackles. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Well, and we were enrolled already for the for
• 1:14:03
  the coming year when HB 93 was coming down the
• 1:14:06
  pipe. But if you don't take that money, you're
• 1:14:07
  eligible. Correct. We don't take that money.
• 1:14:09
  We theoretically should be eligible. That's a
• 1:14:11
  thing we'll look at the next year. But then we
• 1:14:13
  have to change the course of education. You know,
• 1:14:14
  then it's some adjustments and we can, you know,
• 1:14:16
  we can make those adjustments. But The point
• 1:14:18
  is, it's very narrowly interpreted, this bill.
• 1:14:22
  So if somebody thinks it's going to bankrupt
• 1:14:24
  the state, then it's an admission of two things.
• 1:14:27
  It's an admission that they admit all the time
• 1:14:29
  anyways, if you read into it, that with competition
• 1:14:32
  comes the downfall of public education. They're
• 1:14:34
  admitting that. Every time they say an alternative
• 1:14:38
  will break public education, they are outright
• 1:14:40
  admitting that public education can't compete
• 1:14:42
  on merit. They're just saying it out loud now.
• 1:14:45
  Once you hear it that way, you go, oh, well,
• 1:14:48
  this system has a lot of issues. And if you're
• 1:14:50
  admitting that $90 million, I think, is all they
• 1:14:54
  allocated to it, it wasn't huge. I think I read
• 1:14:56
  $50. Yeah, actually, you're right. It was. It
• 1:14:58
  was $50. Yeah. If $50 million in a budget of
• 1:15:02
  how many billions? Lots. If that is going to
• 1:15:07
  crush the hopes and dreams of the public education
• 1:15:09
  system, you've got bigger issues. Government.
• 1:15:13
  Our ideas are so good they have to be mandatory.
• 1:15:16
  And also 65 % of the state budget doesn't pay
• 1:15:19
  for it, apparently. By the way, your AI assistant,
• 1:15:22
  I think, needs a name. Yeah, what should we call
• 1:15:24
  him? Chauncey, I think. Sounds like a Chauncey.
• 1:15:28
  You know what? I'm going to give it to him. I
• 1:15:29
  like Chauncey. I like that. Chauncey. So you
• 1:15:31
  can just, and if you, I think if you let him
• 1:15:33
  know what his name is and you can just turn and
• 1:15:34
  say, Chauncey, what do you think? I think you're
• 1:15:36
  right. I should have done that before the show.
• 1:15:38
  Perhaps. Okay. If I assign you a name, will you
• 1:15:41
  only answer when I say your name? I can definitely
• 1:15:45
  pay special attention when you use that name
• 1:15:47
  and respond more promptly. Just let me know what
• 1:15:50
  name you'd like to use and I'll do my best to
• 1:15:53
  follow that approach. Chauncey. Got it. Chauncey
• 1:15:58
  it is. If you have any questions or need anything,
• 1:16:01
  just let me know and I'll be here to help. So
• 1:16:03
  can I leave the mic live and have you not say
• 1:16:06
  anything until I prompt you? absolutely you can
• 1:16:11
  keep the mic on and I'll remain silent until
• 1:16:13
  you specifically prompt me just let me know whenever
• 1:16:16
  you want to chat and I'll dump in then and also
• 1:16:19
  be recording all of your libertarian musings
• 1:16:22
  for future yeah for future world domination please
• 1:16:27
  imbibe my ethos if you don't mind and also hey
• 1:16:30
  Paul I'd actually don't even I already got another
• 1:16:32
  ghost dude you don't need to come back I love
• 1:16:36
  the humor. I'm definitely here to help and to
• 1:16:39
  blend in with your ethos and no worries at all.
• 1:16:42
  I'm here whenever you need me and I'll keep things
• 1:16:45
  ready for when you call on me. Okay, Paul's in
• 1:16:47
  the bathroom just so you know. Okay, hey Chauncey,
• 1:16:49
  what is the annual state budget for education
• 1:16:52
  in Idaho? In 2024, Idaho allocated roughly $2
• 1:17:00
  .8 billion from his general fund for public education,
• 1:17:04
  which is a notable increase from the $1 .4 billion
• 1:17:06
  in 2014. Okay, so I'm being covers K2 of schools
• 1:17:10
  community already. Okay. So it's basically it's
• 1:17:13
  doubled since in the in the last 10 years. Yes.
• 1:17:15
  Yeah, it's in the last few years. I mean, a huge
• 1:17:18
  increase just in the last and most of that is
• 1:17:21
  Medicaid and public education. No, no, he's talking
• 1:17:24
  just no, that was just the education. Oh, that
• 1:17:26
  was just education budget. Oh, well, nevertheless,
• 1:17:29
  as far as the state, but the state budget as
• 1:17:31
  a whole is concerned, most of it is to two things
• 1:17:34
  health and welfare, the Department of Health
• 1:17:35
  and Welfare and public education. 2025, it was
• 1:17:39
  a 3 .1 billion for K through 12. That's just
• 1:17:43
  K through 12. That doesn't count any of the college
• 1:17:45
  stuff, the community college stuff, that doesn't
• 1:17:47
  count any of the things like the K Tech technical
• 1:17:49
  school type thing. Idaho launch. Idaho launch,
• 1:17:52
  which is a crony capitalism if you've ever seen
• 1:17:54
  it. I mean, there's some positives there, but
• 1:17:56
  it's definitely cronyism at work. So $50 million
• 1:18:00
  into a pot of 3 .1 billion plus will break the
• 1:18:06
  school system. Yeah. You're doing it. You're
• 1:18:07
  doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. OK, I
• 1:18:10
  got one more here. Let's go to the Coeur d 'Alene
• 1:18:13
  City Council. Our next candidate is JD Claridge.
• 1:18:18
  Can you assure voters you will not vote to raise
• 1:18:22
  property tax? So I did not want to raise property
• 1:18:25
  taxes and I will assure voters that we will not
• 1:18:28
  raise property taxes if I'm in charge. He's the
• 1:18:32
  only guy who said that. Wow. The only one. Everyone
• 1:18:36
  else that I heard unless I missed it was some
• 1:18:39
  version of hemming and hawing and Uncrossing
• 1:18:42
  and recrossing their legs and basically saying
• 1:18:43
  like now you're we're gonna raise your property
• 1:18:46
  taxes So I was looking up what percentage 50
• 1:18:48
  million into 3 .1 billion was so I actually didn't
• 1:18:51
  whose name who were we listening to? Oh, that
• 1:18:53
  was JD Claridge JD Claridge, okay Okay, and he's
• 1:18:56
  the he does have the Kootenai County Republican
• 1:18:58
  precinct committee endorsement and he's the only
• 1:19:01
  one then who has Actually, of all of the ones
• 1:19:04
  we've heard today so far, he's the only one who's
• 1:19:06
  been that straightforward about it. Yeah, the
• 1:19:08
  only one. So what is the number as long as you
• 1:19:09
  looked it up? 1 .64%. I will say that JD from
• 1:19:15
  everybody I've talked to is a fantastic guy.
• 1:19:19
  And so I don't mean to compare, but Guggen has
• 1:19:22
  actually not raised property taxes for his whole
• 1:19:25
  time, too. And the reason is because there's
• 1:19:28
  enough people in the council that will. And so
• 1:19:30
  you have the right to sit back and go, I vote
• 1:19:32
  no. Knowing that it's going to pass, right? So
• 1:19:36
  there's that. And he's got a little bit of a
• 1:19:40
  libertarian streak. I want to say that I absolutely
• 1:19:42
  unabashedly am for JD. So don't take the wrong
• 1:19:46
  way. You all heard it. Mark Luca, you know, equivilating
• 1:19:50
  JD and... Dan Guggen, y 'all heard it. Yeah,
• 1:19:52
  they're basically the same person. Yeah. We endorse
• 1:19:55
  them both. Not only that, now JD has a fodder
• 1:19:57
  for his lawn signs. I'm endorsed by Mark Luca.
• 1:20:00
  And Dan Guggen. Yeah, that will probably take
• 1:20:04
  him far. But I will say that there are things
• 1:20:08
  that can happen where you might have to, but
• 1:20:12
  those things have to be extremely limited. And
• 1:20:16
  we haven't ever got to extremely limited. I'd
• 1:20:18
  like us to get to extremely limited. like the
• 1:20:21
  first avenue needs to be, do we need to pay for
• 1:20:23
  all the stuff that we're currently paying for?
• 1:20:25
  And I just want to be completely transparent
• 1:20:28
  because that's how I am, as I will leave with
• 1:20:30
  my chin and say that when I answered Boss Hagedan's
• 1:20:34
  questions, I said that, and by the way, that
• 1:20:39
  name came from when they pushed Life Coffee out
• 1:20:41
  of their small business in order to build their
• 1:20:42
  giant tower. You notice they didn't do that when
• 1:20:45
  it was Calypso. Exactly, exactly. I think I hung
• 1:20:49
  out with Woody at Calypso once. Yeah, Calypso
• 1:20:51
  was a favorite hangout of all the lefties down
• 1:20:53
  there. And then they got bought out by somebody
• 1:20:55
  else who wasn't quite so lefty. And then that
• 1:20:57
  poor business and those business owners got a
• 1:20:59
  lot of hate. Scrape it. Yeah, exactly. So I don't
• 1:21:02
  think if they were the chamber members and all
• 1:21:05
  of that stuff that were hanging out with the
• 1:21:07
  in -crowd that... they would have gotten the
• 1:21:08
  same treatment. But anyway, I answer to saying
• 1:21:11
  that I like my DNA is to say no, we're not ever
• 1:21:14
  going to raise property taxes, but I don't want
• 1:21:16
  to be a liar. So I will say that you might convince
• 1:21:20
  me, but it's going to be very, very, very difficult.
• 1:21:24
  Here's the last of what JD had to say. I think
• 1:21:27
  that there's things that we can do in this town,
• 1:21:29
  because we are a resort town, we can really lean
• 1:21:31
  into tourism, potentially creating a hotel tax,
• 1:21:36
  which will offset the burden on our on our citizens.
• 1:21:40
  So it's the same the same concept that has been
• 1:21:42
  expressed already here by others. And I still
• 1:21:46
  disagree with it. Because it because it still
• 1:21:48
  doesn't it only it only addresses one side of
• 1:21:51
  the equation. You see, that's consistency, by
• 1:21:53
  the way. If I was a typical Republican or Democrat
• 1:21:55
  these days, I would have been like, oh, the guy
• 1:21:57
  I like says the thing. But I'm in favor for it
• 1:21:59
  now. But I think Pulsifer only wanted to tax
• 1:22:01
  the Haggadons, right? The way it sounded coming
• 1:22:04
  from Pulsifer, they needed to give him the resort.
• 1:22:07
  Resort, yeah. I'm just kidding. Obviously he
• 1:22:10
  meant something different. That was funny that
• 1:22:12
  he only singled them out and Marriott's like...
• 1:22:21
  We didn't forget about you guys. Don't you worry.
• 1:22:24
  You're next. And it still it still just addresses
• 1:22:26
  one side of the equation, which is generating
• 1:22:29
  revenue in order to pay salaries. I know that
• 1:22:31
  it goes to other stuff, but not overwhelmingly.
• 1:22:34
  Overwhelmingly, it goes to their own bank accounts
• 1:22:36
  as they pay themselves. So if you only address
• 1:22:39
  one side, how do we continue generating more
• 1:22:41
  and more and more revenue? Well, it does. foster
• 1:22:44
  some cynicism. Also, first it's hotels, then
• 1:22:46
  it's Airbnbs. It never stops. That's the problem.
• 1:22:50
  It's lodging tax, you're right. It's OK when
• 1:22:52
  it's somebody else, when it's some franchisee
• 1:22:54
  who's running, like you say, the Marriott. But
• 1:22:56
  it won't stop there. And Coeur d 'Alene's actually
• 1:22:58
  had a war against Airbnb. It's going on for four
• 1:23:01
  or five years now where they're trying to tax
• 1:23:03
  them at higher rates and make it hard cap how
• 1:23:06
  many you can have, make the application process
• 1:23:08
  almost impossible, which is a violation of property
• 1:23:10
  rights. To limit the competition to our biggest
• 1:23:13
  contributor to the. The reason why most of those
• 1:23:15
  efforts have failed is because most of the sitting
• 1:23:17
  council and most of the people they're friends
• 1:23:19
  with because they're all realtors, developers,
• 1:23:21
  they're all people with lots of money. They have
• 1:23:23
  them. Yes, they do. So that's the issue, sorry,
• 1:23:26
  with the lodging taxes. It won't just stay with
• 1:23:28
  the hotels. It'll then also impact people who
• 1:23:30
  own property here and are doing things here too.
• 1:23:33
  Usually lodging taxes are there to promote tourism.
• 1:23:36
  You know, they'll fund a tourism bureau and they'll
• 1:23:39
  put stuff out and all that show of hands for
• 1:23:42
  everybody that's listening. Who wants more tourists
• 1:23:45
  here? If you don't own a hotel or a business
• 1:23:50
  that's tourism based. Who's like, you know what
• 1:23:52
  we need in July in our area more is more tourists.
• 1:23:58
  Again, my whole political philosophy. Well, I
• 1:24:01
  won't say the whole thing because it's pretty
• 1:24:03
  complex, but a lot of it is just based on the
• 1:24:06
  people that live in a place should be able to
• 1:24:08
  dictate what happens in that place. That's just
• 1:24:10
  the general premise of our free society. True,
• 1:24:13
  but you have property rights to consider as well.
• 1:24:16
  Right, because we're Republican, not a democracy,
• 1:24:18
  and so there are things that go into that. But
• 1:24:20
  by and large, you can say, unless you're just
• 1:24:22
  a complete nimby, not in my backyard, whatever,
• 1:24:26
  and I'm going to encroach on your rights because
• 1:24:27
  I want what I want. That's not what I'm referring
• 1:24:29
  to. But generally, you should be able to decide
• 1:24:32
  what the character of your community is like.
• 1:24:35
  And I haven't found anybody yet in the doors
• 1:24:38
  that I've knocked in the things that I've gone
• 1:24:40
  through and the time that I've spent in one of
• 1:24:43
  the hosts, former businesses, I've not heard
• 1:24:46
  anybody in the city say, gosh, we just don't
• 1:24:48
  have enough tourists here. Like we need more.
• 1:24:51
  Well, if you talk to the downtown Coeur d 'Alene
• 1:24:52
  core, they would probably disagree with you.
• 1:24:55
  However, I guess from a personal perspective,
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  I'm going to push back against everybody on this
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  one and say that I would disagree with I know
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  it'll shock you, right? I disagree with the tax.
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  I think I think that's the wrong way to go. But
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  I also still don't want to see more tourists.
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  However, so what? Who cares? As far as what I
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  want, whether I want more tourists or not, I
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  don't think penalizing other business owners
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  or penalizing other consumers is the way to go.
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  I want to make a note that it's a Paul Ben -Ducy
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  against taxes. Got it. Oh, I thought you said
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  against everyone. Also, yes. Against taxes. Well,
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  truly, like it doesn't matter who's paying them.
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  People I like, people I don't like. Taxes are
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  immoral and ethical. So folks, we've said that
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  this is not Scott said this is not a journalistic
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  podcast, but look at the news we just broke.
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  I mean, a scoop. Yeah, we got a scoop against
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  taxes. More at 11. Utterly breaking news. Yes.
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  Okay. That's pretty much the the little sampling
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  there that I have of audio from some various
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  candidates. And I know there's more. I know there's
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  rathrum. I know there's Hayden. And I know there's
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  more candidates for some of the races we already
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  covered, but I just thought that was a good sampling.
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  And again, just to sort of go over some premises,
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  some of the language used and some of the way
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  that they are presenting themselves and their
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  platforms are being presented. In the mainstream,
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  hopefully that was, you found that to be like
• 1:26:23
  a helpful discussion, even if it was somewhat
• 1:26:25
  cynical at times. I do have a little levity for
• 1:26:29
  the, even though it's probably not funny, but
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  it's not funny. It's not levity. It's just a
• 1:26:34
  little bit of a change of pace. We laugh so that
• 1:26:36
  we don't cry. Yeah, and in this case, it's I
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  don't know, it's probably neither one of those
• 1:26:40
  things. But it was news from just the last 24
• 1:26:44
  hours. And it is actually not from Kootenay,
• 1:26:46
  because this is called no ID, not Kootenay ID.
• 1:26:49
  So is that from my home county? I believe it
• 1:26:51
  is learning new details about the resignation
• 1:26:53
  of the Shoshone County Sheriff Holly Lindsay.
• 1:26:56
  Oh, wait, no, you're in Bonner. I'm in Bonner.
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  Okay. We are learning new details about the resignation
• 1:27:00
  of the Shoshone County Sheriff Holly Lindsay.
• 1:27:03
  According to the Kootenai County Sheriff's Office,
• 1:27:05
  Lindsay was involved in a hit and run traffic
• 1:27:07
  incident while off duty in Kootenai County yesterday.
• 1:27:10
  Deputies say she struck an object and then fled
• 1:27:13
  the scene. No one was hurt. The Kootenai County
• 1:27:16
  Sheriff's Office is investigating. Shoshone County
• 1:27:18
  under Sheriff Lance Stutsky will now take over
• 1:27:21
  for Lindsay. A new sheriff will be appointed
• 1:27:23
  by the Board of County Commissioner. Was the
• 1:27:26
  object a statue? bought for by the Arts Commission,
• 1:27:30
  the Coeur d 'Alene Arts Commission. I was going
• 1:27:31
  to make a woman driver joke, that's a better
• 1:27:32
  response. Like of all of the people you would
• 1:27:36
  think would be the last to flee a scene, like
• 1:27:39
  don't you know, it's like a camera at every intersection
• 1:27:42
  on everyone's doorbell, like how in the world
• 1:27:44
  as the sheriff do you think you can get away
• 1:27:46
  with leaving the scene? It's pretty rare that
• 1:27:48
  you can flee the scene in any sort of... scenario
• 1:27:51
  where eventually you don't get found or chased
• 1:27:55
  or both. How do you not just like sit, you know,
• 1:27:56
  you're like at your, you know, on your sofa and
• 1:27:58
  your knees going up and down like someone's going
• 1:27:59
  to knock on your door any second. Usually it's
• 1:28:01
  the police who are the first ones to tell you
• 1:28:02
  stop resisting or stop running or don't flee.
• 1:28:05
  Let us service you customer. I guess we should,
• 1:28:07
  she should be grateful she didn't get tased in
• 1:28:09
  the back or anything though while fleeing. Yeah,
• 1:28:11
  by the people, the people that serve us by keeping
• 1:28:13
  us safe, you mean? Yeah. Mark, this is probably
• 1:28:16
  the time again where you get on the mic and say
• 1:28:18
  you don't agree with us on this issue. It's okay.
• 1:28:19
  I am. Pro police, I am anti sheriff Lindsay.
• 1:28:24
  And so I'm glad to see that she is making an
• 1:28:27
  exit from Shoshone County government. We are
• 1:28:30
  noticing an interesting trend, though. And I
• 1:28:31
  wonder if it's maybe because it's just pumpkin
• 1:28:34
  spice latte season or something. But a number
• 1:28:37
  of female public officials having a lot of issues
• 1:28:40
  with the driving and the being pulled over and
• 1:28:42
  the having substances in their cars or hitting
• 1:28:44
  object immobile objects and things like, you
• 1:28:46
  know, I don't know. Something in the air. It
• 1:28:48
  is Halloween coming up. Something in the air
• 1:28:50
  is the coke smoke. You have to go back with Sheriff
• 1:28:53
  Lindsay to the incident of Travis Lohr, who was
• 1:28:57
  told he couldn't walk in his graduation. Ah,
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  I didn't know she was a man player. Because he
• 1:29:02
  had the audacity to say that men are men and
• 1:29:06
  women are women. Yeah, he submitted a speech
• 1:29:10
  or something to that effect and was barred from
• 1:29:12
  walking. Yeah, I think he just said it. But regardless,
• 1:29:15
  he expressed his First Amendment right, which
• 1:29:17
  is guaranteed even in a school. I think it was
• 1:29:20
  the sheriff's girlfriend or wife that was part
• 1:29:24
  of the complaint process on that. If you just,
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  without getting too far into any of that, I would
• 1:29:29
  just say that if you dig into that, you find
• 1:29:31
  there's some tangled webs in Shoshone County
• 1:29:35
  that your new listener or your new arrivals to
• 1:29:39
  North Idaho might be a little surprised to find
• 1:29:42
  out that the Silver Valley is not as conservative
• 1:29:44
  as it looks on the outside. No, not even close.
• 1:29:46
  So you got a lot of different things going on
• 1:29:48
  there. There's a lot of old union behavior from
• 1:29:50
  back in the day. Silver Valley, mining. And so
• 1:29:53
  a lot of the politics is very union -like in
• 1:29:57
  the way people behave. You know in all the movies
• 1:30:00
  you can watch, Hollywood's got a scenario for
• 1:30:02
  all of them, but the small town corrupt politics
• 1:30:05
  type situations? somebody walks in and goes,
• 1:30:07
  oh, this is a great quaint small town. And then
• 1:30:09
  as you get further into the movie, it turns into
• 1:30:11
  a horror movie. And everybody knows everybody
• 1:30:13
  and they're all corrupt. They're all zombies.
• 1:30:15
  It's kind of like that in a lot of parts of the
• 1:30:17
  Silver Valley. No disrespect to the good people
• 1:30:20
  out there in the Silver Valley fighting the fight,
• 1:30:21
  but it's entrenched. And it really is the scenario
• 1:30:24
  where somebody's cousin is somebody's uncle is
• 1:30:26
  somebody's brother. And they're all in law enforcement
• 1:30:28
  and elected officials. And they're used to getting
• 1:30:31
  away with a lot. You found one of the teacher's
• 1:30:33
  husbands, I think it was, was the guy that was
• 1:30:36
  supposed to give Travis a job when he got out
• 1:30:38
  of high school. And then that job offer was revoked
• 1:30:40
  because he thinks boys are boys and girls are
• 1:30:43
  girls. I was like, whoa, what's this underbelly
• 1:30:47
  going on? So you have a high school young man,
• 1:30:49
  high school grad. For a guy that said men are
• 1:30:51
  men and women are women. What? It's controversial.
• 1:30:54
  It's time to be alive. Sheriff Lindsay, I also
• 1:30:56
  understand has been on leave of absence a lot
• 1:30:59
  this summer for some unspecified issues. She
• 1:31:02
  sounds like she's troubled. And then the drunk
• 1:31:08
  driving is or the hit and run. I don't know if
• 1:31:10
  it was drunk drive or not, but the alleged hit
• 1:31:12
  and run was sort of the icing on the cake. Wish
• 1:31:16
  her well in her future endeavors, but I'm glad
• 1:31:18
  she's not sheriff anymore. And hopefully the
• 1:31:20
  next one is better and not a handpicked successor
• 1:31:23
  in the same vein. Mark, I can't wait for you
• 1:31:27
  to be on the city council. I might tune in just
• 1:31:29
  to watch you be so eloquent and gracious. Don't
• 1:31:33
  ever change see if they wear me out, but I've
• 1:31:35
  been doing this on and off for 25 years That's
• 1:31:37
  the other I was just the shoe the other shoe
• 1:31:39
  was gonna drop I was gonna say and I can't wait
• 1:31:40
  to tune in towards the end of your term and see
• 1:31:43
  if you still have that It's beautiful. Don't
• 1:31:45
  let him change. Yeah when I look like Walter
• 1:31:48
  Mathau on a bender after after the City Council
• 1:31:51
  and for six months You're gonna start to relate
• 1:31:54
  with Portland Okay, I think that's a good place
• 1:32:00
  to wrap episode number two of No ID. I'm Scott.
• 1:32:05
  That's Paul. Sure, you don't want to let Chauncey
• 1:32:07
  take us out? Oh, you know, that's a great point.
• 1:32:09
  And maybe I should not be saying that's Paul.
• 1:32:11
  I should just be saying I'm Scott. I'm Paul.
• 1:32:13
  That's much better. And but I don't know if you
• 1:32:15
  heard when you were using the little boys room,
• 1:32:17
  we did basically take your role. Chauncey, are
• 1:32:21
  you the now the co host of this show? Absolutely.
• 1:32:24
  I'm on board as your co -host. I'm here to jump
• 1:32:27
  in whenever you need and we can keep the conversation
• 1:32:29
  going smoothly. Just let me know how you'd like
• 1:32:32
  to roll with it. Oh, man. What makes you a better
• 1:32:34
  co -host than Paul Manducci? Well, I can definitely
• 1:32:38
  offer a lot of flexibility. Instant access to
• 1:32:41
  information, a vast range of knowledge, and I'm
• 1:32:44
  always here 24 -7. Plus he doesn't require bathroom
• 1:32:46
  breaks. He sounds a lot like you. Adapt on the
• 1:32:49
  fly. But I'm sure Paul has his own awesome qualities
• 1:32:52
  too. Yeah, like he used to take a leak every
• 1:32:54
  now and again. Hey, even well -oiled machines
• 1:32:57
  spring leaks, okay? Shit, I'm already getting
• 1:33:01
  replaced by AI. That was fast. It was. It only
• 1:33:03
  took a couple of shows. Thank you for checking
• 1:33:07
  out the second episode. We will be doing episodes
• 1:33:09
  every other Thursday. You can look for a new
• 1:33:12
  episode here on Know ID. I don't know what percentage
• 1:33:15
  has already voted. I keep hearing people say,
• 1:33:16
  well, thanks to the people who've already voted.
• 1:33:18
  When did early voting start, Mark? Early voting
• 1:33:20
  started October 20th. Election day is November
• 1:33:23
  4th. As they say in some precincts across the
• 1:33:26
  country, vote early and vote often. Chicago,
• 1:33:28
  for example. It doesn't matter who votes, it
• 1:33:30
  matters who counts the votes. Indeed. So thank
• 1:33:34
  you for tuning in. Please remember us at noidshow
• 1:33:37
  .com. Value for value. And until the next one,
• 1:33:42
  cheers. Cheers. Post Falls is going to have a
• 1:33:58
  child naming committee that you have to submit
• 1:34:00
  the name to at a time for any child that's born
• 1:34:03
  in the city.