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S6 250. Rod Smith - Paul Fowler - Guardians of Faith: Sabbatical, Growth, Challenges & Good News · Millennial Mustard Seed

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That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
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I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and
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virtue because it's an end around between this whole
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corrupt informational system, media system.
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We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
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existence and literally raised himself from the dead, and yet
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we are not going to believe that anything else exists in the
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spirit realm, even though His word tells us that they do.
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Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
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and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the
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earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
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turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
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These giants would live way up in the highland.
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The young Braves, the young men would hide them in the trees and
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wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the path
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and they would jump on them and kill them, drag them back in the
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village, and the village would feast on the body.
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Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
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armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
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their cities. Now God looks down and there's
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violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
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at, is not against each other, it's against these
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principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
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places. It's really worthwhile to read
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the Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
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drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought
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captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
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that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
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All right, we praying first, are we?
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Yes, let's pray. OK Father, we just thank you for
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bandwidth. So grateful the signal came back
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up. Lord, we just pray in Jesus name
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for your angelic resources, your spiritual covering over tonight.
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We thank you for the blood of Jesus that covers both our lives
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and both of our families. And Lord, we just ask that you
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would send resources to deal with the things that we can't
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see or understand in the realm that we, we don't fully
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comprehend, but we know those resources are real.
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We know those resources are powerful.
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And so we just appeal to you, Lord, to just release your, your
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angels to work on our behalf or we, we just pray for your, your
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wisdom to cover both of us as we, as we talk and discuss.
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And, and Lord, I just pray Holy Spirit, most of all, you know,
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you would just counsel us and, and guide the conversation.
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And this is 2 friends talking. And but we're talking about
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something important and we're talking about the labor.
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You know, that's the heart and the labor and the prayer and all
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that's gone into to this and where it's going to go.
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And so, father, in Jesus name, every demonic resistance, every
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weapon of the enemy that's attempted to be formed, we just
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say has no place over us tonight over this ministry, over our
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families, we thank you, the blood of Jesus covers us and we
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thank you that that our our homes are marked with your blood
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and that blood is powerful. We thank you that the angels
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that guard the gateways and guard the space that we inhabit
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spiritually and physically are powerful and mighty and strong.
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And we just we, we thank you for their for their warfare over us.
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And Holy Spirit, we thank you your banner over us is love.
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And I just pray you cover us with your grace.
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Cover us, counsel us, guide us and let us enjoy this time in
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Jesus name. We offer it up to you as an
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offering Jesus name, Amen. Jesus mighty.
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Name Amen. Amen.
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All right. Nice to talk with you.
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My name is Paul Fowler. Welcome to the Millennial
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Mustard Seed podcast. I am normally here as a guest.
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This is my third time on the podcast, and I've got to say
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we're kind of switching things up a little bit.
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I'm actually going to be hosting tonight and we're going to be
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interviewing the founder of the podcast, Mr. Rod Smith, also the
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author of The Words are Salt, which you can find on Amazon.
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But Rod's been busy with lots of different things and we're going
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to talk with him a little bit tonight.
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And what we're going to do is we're going to deliver what we
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might consider a, a podcast State of the Union.
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Occasionally as a pastor, my elders and I, we will devote a
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Sunday and just talk about here's where we've been as a
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ministry, here's where we are now, and here's where we're
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headed. And here's the things that we're
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going to be doing in the future. And so it seemed appropriate to
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Rod that that we needed to devote an episode of the podcast
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to that. So again, my name is Paul
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Fowler. I'm a pastor in Texas.
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Normally, you hear me on the show talking about the days of
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Noah or transhumanism or what it means to be human.
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But tonight, I'm the host. And Mr. Rod Smith, you are the
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guest tonight. Welcome.
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It's fun to be on the other side of it.
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Well, you know, you need a break.
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Occasionally I'll I'll ask the questions and and you can
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answer. How about that?
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Love it man, this is good. Well, it's, I think one of the,
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the things that we enjoy about, you know, our kind of State of
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the Union addresses that the church is if, if people are new
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to us, then they get a little bit of our history.
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Sometimes they find out that our church is involved in things
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that maybe they didn't know about.
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Maybe it's a food program that we're hosting or sponsoring and,
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you know, we're a part of in our community.
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Or sometimes our mission efforts, you know, people may
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not know we're we're involved in church planning.
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We're doing all sorts of things in South America that that maybe
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they don't fully know what we're doing.
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So today is a day where we're going to pose a couple questions
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to Rod and just hear, really hear from his heart.
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What's on his heart about the ministry, where it's been and
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where it's going? And also celebrate some of the
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successes and the milestones of the podcast.
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So do you want to just lay a brief layout maybe for those
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that are relatively new to the podcast, How long you've been
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doing this, What it was like when you got started?
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As we kind of talk, even off air, it, it's been surreal for
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me lately because I've been reflecting, I've been looking
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back and when I started, I had no idea even how to use a
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computer. And I know that sounds weird as
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being a millennial, but I missed it.
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You know, I really did. Even with my wife I was I had a
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flip phone all the way up until 2016 and she argued me into like
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an iPhone 4 or something at the time.
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I don't want to go back to the flip phone sometimes, Rod, I
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don't mind. I don't mind telling you, but
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yeah. Yeah, now that I know what I
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know, it's like, it wasn't so bad.
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I guess I was stubborn for the right reasons.
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But I've been doing, you know, this podcast, you know, started
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in 2020. March was the first publicly
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released episode. The planning was almost a year.
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It was more of a wrestling match with insecurity and doubt and
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what God told me the name was. I thought it was corny in the
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beginning. It's like everyone loves it now.
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Just reflecting, you know. This was your first podcast.
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You didn't do one before this. No, I did.
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I actually had none of this world, it's called.
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And that was that was a little different.
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I had a couple interviews on there, but it was getting my
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feet wet. That started in 2018 and yeah,
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it was just like one of these things where microphone's shy.
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I didn't like the sound of my own voice, I didn't know what I
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was doing. So the the audio there is
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horrific, but it's still there. Well, that.
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Was one of my first observations about your Rod is like, oh, he's
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got a, he's got a voice. A full voice helps.
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Yeah, it's so my starting is is like never despise small
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beginnings. Really trying to reimpress that
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now because the way things have been going, maintaining that
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humility and that posture of just like, man, like I know what
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it's like to hear from the Lord. People think you're crazy and
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put in countless hours of work before it's ever gets a head
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nod, you know, And then after the head nod, you start getting
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like, well, congratulations, and you're still here.
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And then it, you know, the ripple effect does its thing.
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So that's been a really weird process for me because sometimes
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I, I narrow and zone in tunnel vision almost.
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And I'm just like, go, go, go, go.
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And I kind of pulled my head out recently from the tunnel vision
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of work, work, work and started looking around and I'm like, oh,
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this feels weird. So it's been quite a number of
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years, Paul. Yeah, well, and I, I had a
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little bit of this pop up in the conversation that I, I had on
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the show last with, with Aaron. When you're dealing with the
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kind of topics that you're dealing with and there's a new
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development that's, you know, popping up so much faster than
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you ever expected and 1 rabbit hole leads leads to another and
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that requires more biblical study.
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And then, and these are hard topics and you really do have to
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pull back occasionally because it's just tough stuff.
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Yeah, I agree, definitely. So how is your, how has your
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view of things? This is a bit of AI mean.
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I kind of know how you're going to answer both.
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So no, I'm, I'm really curious to hear what your answer is
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going to be because these things are always personal.
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What how, how has this changed you?
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How has this affected your world view when you look at where this
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has gone from 2020 to now? There's like a still small
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confidence in just the way that I've been moving and viewing
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things because what I felt like I was hearing, you know, I
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didn't hear the Lord audibly, but I, I had these like
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intuitions that this is my suspice.
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Like this is going on, right? Inklings, whatever you want to
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call it. And then all of that.
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There was a whole library of that whole life of trying to
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make sense of everything and then to see it start to resonate
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with people around the world and people of significant status, to
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see that it's in the public square.
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It's given me confidence. But it's also, it's something
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where like, I don't know how to truly put my, you know, my hands
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on it, but I feel like I'm walking and what I was called to
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do. I feel like it was so hard.
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I don't know if I've gotten used to how difficult it is and maybe
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a little callous to it and it's affected me in other ways, but
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there's like a confidence. But there's also this, you know,
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kind of weighty. Just like I look at things and I
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can tell when people don't see the depth of the spiritual
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reality or the depravity or how beautiful it is.
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And so I feel like an outsider a lot of the times, right?
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It's been very helpful to connect with many of the other
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black sheep through this podcast.
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So, but, but once again, there was things that I felt like I
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discussed with the Holy Spirit in a secret place that never
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came out of my mouth. And, and, you know, three years,
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four years, five years later, it's being confirmed in all
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these different areas. And that's a weird feeling where
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I don't know what to expect next.
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I some days, I hope God, you're not done with me.
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You felt like we have done some amazing things.
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And other days I feel like, no, we're just beginning.
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So I mean, that's my transparency.
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My vulnerability is it's a rollercoaster ride most of the
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time. Yeah, when when I released my
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first book in 2020, it was literally COVID.
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And a lot of the reasons I wrote the book were my concerns, which
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we've discussed about transhumanism and genetic
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manipulation and, and what they now call human engineering.
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Because it's, I think they realize transhumanism is a word
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that's, it's already got a connotation.
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But Rod, I thought things were years down the Pike.
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And then the moment I released it, I realized we are right in
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the middle of the big, first big public experiment.
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And it's not, you know, it's not friends, it's not, it's not five
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years out. We're, it's right here.
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So the pace of, of these issues and coming to speed with them is
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it takes it out of you. And some, in some respects I I
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respect that you've realized that you do need to take a
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breather from time to time. A sabbatical, A breather, right?
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Just taking a step back and reflecting.
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Like I said, there's a cost to agree with your your last
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statement, but there's a reward too.
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And, and I think being able to entertain both of those
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genuinely, reflectively, honestly, quietly, you know, the
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way that I would do it. I'm not necessarily going to go
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backpacking through South America and reflect on all this
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in some misty mountain, but it's a chapter where there's
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decisions to be made and things that we've accomplished that I'm
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looking at. And I'm like, I never stopped to
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take a look at that from more angles than a quick glance.
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Right. And ultimately, as I've grown
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from this information, all the stuff I've heard, and I don't
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believe everything I've heard on the show, first of all, like
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that, you know, there's some immature stuff that I
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entertained early on and even through the years.
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I'm not saying it's ADD content, but eat the meat, spit out the
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bones is my thoughts right? And some stuff is so good that
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my worldview, Paul is now relearning everything that is
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perfect and good from above. And like, learning to forget all
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of this other, you know, systematic programming that this
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life has offered me as a kid who grew up in the suburbs of
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Philadelphia. I really feel like I do need to
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take some time and reflect and consider what's already been
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accomplished and then try to be sensitive to where God's telling
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me we're going next. Because I might have gotten a
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couple things wrong in the years, you know?
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Right. Well, it's, it's there so much
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you talked about programming and things that we just sort of
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comfortably believed because they were the narrative that was
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common and everyone believed it. And then you find yourself as
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that minority voice or that minority person who's
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questioning and saying, I don't think so.
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And I got reasons why I don't think so.
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But I what one thing that I think has been, I don't know
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what the right word is it it's comforting.
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But there there's the realization how many people have
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been on this journey and how many people have been on this
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journey with you as you're taking in new things and you're
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processing and you're questioning your own narratives.
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That is kind of the gift of doing this for several years.
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And I know, you know, you might talk a little bit about, you
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know, just how the podcast has grown and some of the just some
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of the mechanics of that, but your audience goes with you.
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They're they're, they're here for a reason.
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They like you, they trust you. They like your take on things.
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They like your guests. You know, obviously people show
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up for the guests and whatnot, but they can hear those guests
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on other places, but they come to yours because they know
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you're processing this, you know, on a personal level.
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What, what are some of the aspects of growth that you've
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seen and and what what are some of the rewards of having this
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audience grow with you? Yeah, I keep a couple emails and
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messages, like I have some screenshots.
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I save a couple things for the rainy days because I remember
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what it was like being on the receiving end.
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You know the teachings of Doctor Chuck Missler.
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Right. Oh my gosh.
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And fantastic. Just receiving and being like,
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I'm not crazy and it's in the word, you know, and sit down and
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and get into the word and find it there.
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And then I would have these moments, Paul, where another
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person would present that case to me and I'd feel like I wasn't
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setting out really intentionally in my mind to be like,
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somebody's going to get this topic in particular is going to
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change them this way. It's just exposing the darkness
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and going. But there would be moments where
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people would send me an e-mail. I've talked with a couple
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different people from around the world.
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You know, I've carved out some time to talk on the phone.
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It's it's limited. I don't, you can't do that for
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everybody. But there's certain times where
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I felt the nudge and this person would just be weeping and
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they're like, thank you so much. Like I, this touched me so
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deeply. I needed to know that I'm not
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the only one. And there was, it was surreal
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because I would get into my emotions and be like, man, I
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remember it's, it wasn't that long ago that I was on that end
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of it. And so growth wise, I've seen,
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you know, sub pockets of people, I've seen churches change, I've
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seen industries change. I've seen government officials
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start to entertain private conversations and, and somewhat
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public. I mean, we, we've dabbled around
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an interesting realm of persons on air thus far and there's
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still more stuff coming, but, and to see them start to
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resonate with the little old me with some of these thoughts and
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praying and, and, you know, ripping his shirt and screaming
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out and going, I'm not going to nod my head and just say yes and
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Amen with whatever somebody hands me like we're going to
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figure it out. That's the growth for me.
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It is significant. And I do believe the audience is
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growing with me. I there's no way you can be the
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same and just play mundane gummy bear Christianity after you've
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taken a 1520 episode journey with me, you know, and if you've
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listened to all of it, like there's no, you can't go back.
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It's very true. I, I think it's, it isn't
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amazing. The world has has come to this
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place where the the consumer, you know, the person, they get
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to decide who they go on the journey with, you know, and a
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lot of people have decided, you know, like you, I like your
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take. And they're probably listening
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to other shows too, but they keep coming back to this podcast
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because they appreciate how you've been processing the
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journey and they feel like they've got a kindred spirit
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that they can, they can hear from the guests that they like
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to hear from, but they know, you know, there's a trust level with
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you. And that's a, that's a, some of
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the amazing thing that like really the consumer gets to
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decide and they've, they've chosen this place.
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And, you know, honestly, some of the, the benchmarks of, of,
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because I'm not versed in the podcast world, you know, that
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I'm new to this stuff. Just how you've kind of
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described the place that the, the, the podcast has come to is
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amazing. And I think it would be kind of
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encouraging for some folks to just know, hey, it's really come
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to A, to a landmark place in regards to how many people are
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checking in and listening to what's going on.
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I talk about in the private kind of circles, you know, my, my
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friends and family, it's been a long and dangerous growth
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journey. And it's, it's true.
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I mean, we started out in 2020. I don't know if even we had like
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5 or 10,000 people that listened.
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And I've never been a numbers guy.
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You got to look at that and be like, wow, you know what's
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happening. And so it's been a slow, long
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uphill since then of growth and we've hitting some patches like
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last year was significant. I just told you, I said, Paul,
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it's, it's crazy. It's timely.
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We're doing this episode. I said I just hit an all time
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high of downloads today. You know, we, we've crept into
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124 countries, all 50 states continually download.
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And it's Texas is #1 by the way, like when I look at the
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analytics, like we're maybe I should move to Texas because
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Texas loves us, man. There's like 200 townships,
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boroughs, cities and providences just in the state of Texas
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alone. Pennsylvania, where I reside is
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number 3. So I, I look at that, I get to,
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I get to see towns, boroughs, cities, you know, and.
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Obviously Philadelphia, we get a lot of downloads in
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Philadelphia. Philadelphia is a huge city,
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though. It's really funny.
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I've only ever met two people that are like, no, wait, are are
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you the guy who does the podcast like from here in my voice?
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It's so funny to, I guess you could say, see this go as far as
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it goes. And in this region, it's
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hardship and deprivation, man. It's it's they're not too
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friendly to I guess what I'm doing on a local basis.
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I'm not saying I have like enemies that I'm aware of, but
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there's there's places in this country that e-mail and they
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support. They let me know where they're
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at. And then I see the statistics
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and it's, it's fascinating. You know, I don't, I forget what
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your question was, by the way. I'm sorry, I don't even know if
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I answered the question or if I just well.
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Yeah, just yeah, you kind of did just how much the podcast has
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grown and where it's, it's, it's come to, I mean the benchmarks
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that like we were talking about, I don't know, a month or so ago
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and it's like, boom, here you are tonight.
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Like Yep, we're, we're hitting that.
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We're in that level that I've been trying to to hit within the
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market. And yeah, and I I think the
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people are be you know, the people that have been with you
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are like really, that's great. I had no idea, you know, like, I
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mean, some of them know it, but but, but, but some, some would
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be like, I had no idea. Like this is this goes up many
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places. My goodness, that's.
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Fantastic. That's unique.
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Paul is like, it really is a a very personal and intimate show.
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I mean, these elongated conversations, I'm pulling out
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details, asking questions, getting to the crux of the issue
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as best as I possibly can with, you know, the Holy Spirit is my
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helper. But even when I think about it
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like we don't, we don't cover what's trendy typically.
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I've noticed that we've covered content and then it becomes
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trendy 2 months or six months later.
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It's this huge, big topic of conversation now everyone's
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talking about like, so these are things where like really, I
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don't want to say my head's been in the sand, but when I say
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humble beginnings, there's people that are on my radar and
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I'm like, this is great. And there's a lot of people out
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there I don't know of like other guests to have on, for example,
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to have collaborations. I don't listen to many other
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shows I used to and it's but when I look at the numbers, I I
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think I giggle because I'm like, there's a bunch of other weirdos
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out there just like me better, you know, working out or going
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for a walk or whatever they're doing, you know, commuting in
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the car and they're listening to this content.
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They're grappling with these deep truths of like, have we
22:40
been lied to? Is it in the Bible?
22:42
Whoa, it's there just like he said it was.
22:45
It's never been like bright lights and big production and
22:49
nothing fancy like this really. Is the guy next door genuinely?
22:54
Well, it's we're, I think in, in regards to the topics that we
22:57
cover, which is leaving some of the standard narratives and
23:01
realizing that they really don't serve us.
23:04
And there might not even be biblical.
23:06
I think a lot of folks like believed in the realities of
23:08
spiritual conflict or spiritual warfare.
23:10
But I think there's a growing understanding that the demonic,
23:15
the dark side is entrenched itself in our institutions far
23:19
deeper than we ever imagined. And we're watching that play
23:23
out. And, and I really do think we,
23:27
we run into some interesting spiritual opposition with this
23:31
topic, even though I kind of feel like it's a train going
23:34
down the track that's only going to keep raising picking up speed
23:37
and people. But when the enemy loses A
23:41
narrative, you know, he loses 3 or 4 narratives.
23:44
And so the the spiritual opposition is very real and you
23:51
know, for the audience to just be reminded, yeah, this is not
23:54
just an information place. This is a ministry and
23:57
ministries are under attack. If you're doing something good
24:00
for the Kingdom, you are likely drawing some fire.
24:04
And that is just the nature of warfare.
24:06
So for those that have been on the journey with Rod and, and
24:11
are going to be on the journey moving forward, never forget
24:14
what we. I know that Rod frequently asked
24:15
for prayer, but ministries demanding and you know, Rod's
24:22
got lots of irons in the fire. So be praying for this.
24:25
It's it's great to be able to celebrate how far this has gone
24:29
tonight, But it's like if we're going to go further, we need you
24:33
guys praying. I'm praying for Rod.
24:35
I need you guys to be praying for Rod.
24:37
You know, like this is this is the conflict's real.
24:41
Then it's it's they're not giving this stuff up.
24:44
It's been costly to sort of maintain these false narratives
24:48
that keep people really just clueless to some of the things
24:52
that are going on in the world. And so the prayers is absolutely
24:56
essential moving forward. I think there's times where I, I
25:02
feel like I should designate a whole episode to spill the beans
25:05
and ask for prayer, you know? And there's a lot that happens
25:11
in the background, a lot of behind the scenes stuff that
25:13
happens. Secret ministry.
25:16
Sometimes the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is
25:19
doing. Other times I do public things,
25:22
I do collaborate. I've done in person meetups and
25:24
prayer meetings. I've traveled, you know,
25:27
multiple different states in the last two years for events of
25:32
finding other men and women and families that were just like, we
25:37
just want to show up and pray and worship God with no agenda
25:40
and see what happens. Like, yeah, some of it has
25:44
happened publicly. I've done it with other
25:46
ministers and, you know, but some of it happens in places
25:51
that you'd never expect or that I don't even set out to expect
25:55
half the time. You know, one of my buddies,
25:57
Holistic Nick, who's been on a handful of times, we, we laugh
26:01
because we used to just be like, Hey, we just want to get away
26:03
from everything and take a hike. And, you know, did this many
26:07
times prior to 2020 and a few times since then.
26:10
His life has just changed so much.
26:11
But we would always laugh because we'd set out to be like,
26:15
no cell phone. Let's just go on a three hour
26:16
hike and would turn into we met somebody along the trail.
26:20
We were walking along talking about how the veil split in half
26:23
and they heard it and it turned into this, you know, big
26:25
conversation. They asked for prayer.
26:27
They start crying and it's like, man, we can't get away from it.
26:30
Like I just try to, I just wanted, I don't know what normal
26:34
is, but it's, I guess in my mind there's times where I thought,
26:37
let's just go be a normal person or do something different and,
26:40
and God would use those opportunities.
26:43
And then there's been times, Paul, where I've been in the
26:44
middle of of a revival and everyone's around saying, I feel
26:48
God, I feel and I'm like, I'm not feeling any of it.
26:52
Look, I've experienced such weird ends of it, you know?
26:56
Well, listen, that's ministry for you, yeah.
26:57
Yeah. You show up and do it and not
27:02
not because of how you feel, it's because of what the people
27:04
need and that that does cost something.
27:09
Speaking of cost, why don't you maybe give a little insight into
27:15
what's involved getting a podcast to this place because
27:18
there's a lot of people around the world, which is fun to hear
27:21
the stats that benefit and enjoy the content.
27:25
But maybe talk a little bit about, yeah, this is what's
27:28
involved. This is what it costs, this is
27:30
the time, this is the money, this is the infrastructure, this
27:33
is the prayer. Yeah.
27:35
It's a lot. I mean, it's a lifestyle.
27:37
I'll say that right off the bat. Reading content, always
27:40
continually checking yourself to make sure you're in good
27:43
standings with the Lord and the direction you're heading, and
27:47
then being able to grapple with some of the most intense and
27:50
prolific authors and speakers out there.
27:53
I guess I feel like I'm doing what God's calling me to do.
27:56
I don't think this is it, but time involved is significant.
28:01
You know, there's 1000 plus hours of public content.
28:05
There's 5000 hours easy, probably a lot more than that in
28:10
editing. There's a continual cost in
28:13
equipment and maintenance and rights to music and the time it
28:18
takes to edit and produce it. And people are like, just do a
28:21
live show. Just do a live show.
28:22
And I'm like, well, that requires me to stop and and set
28:25
myself up differently. I think if you, when you know
28:27
how to do this, people look at each other and you lock eyes a
28:30
little bit longer and then and smirk and you know, you kind of
28:35
respect each other when you realize because there's a lot
28:38
that goes into it. I've tried to bring other people
28:40
on to bear that burden. I've never really found a
28:43
relief. I don't recommend that just
28:46
anybody does this. I really don't like if you're
28:51
called to do it and do it with your whole heart and focus on
28:54
what's above and and try to plow through.
28:57
I don't know me and Basil from CCR, you know, he he's like, do
29:01
you know how many podcasts never make it past 10 episodes?
29:05
It's like people think it's cool, but like when you get in
29:07
it and it's year after year after year, it's cost me
29:10
vacations. It's cost me relationships I've
29:15
put in monetarily into this thing.
29:17
The cost of probably paying off the rest of my car put over 10
29:22
or 15 GS into this over all these years.
29:24
Believe it or not, it. Sounds.
29:26
Crazy. But it's not.
29:28
It's a real thing. I've had microphones stop
29:32
working one after the other. Season 3 and 4 I went through
29:35
like 5 microphones, like on an interview just talking and yet
29:40
another $150.00 mic just at another one.
29:43
Like bizarre stuff has happened too.
29:45
Supernatural stuff, man. I've been woken up in the middle
29:48
of the night. I've had warfare I've had.
29:50
But I don't want to like peg this as a negative thing because
29:54
there's been good stuff. But when I look and reflect, I,
29:58
I really think to myself, Lord, like you walked with me here.
30:04
Like I was like, where are we going?
30:06
And you whispered things to me and you told me I was important
30:09
and I, I didn't believe them. I didn't believe I was, I didn't
30:14
have that type of self value when I started this journey.
30:18
A lot has changed. You know, I've grown a lot.
30:21
I have a long way to go. I am not a good example.
30:23
I tell my guys they're like, you're the leader, like, you
30:26
know, I've had a lot of people tell me wild stuff and I'm just
30:29
like, OK, that's cool. We'll see if it happens.
30:31
But I always say I'm not a great example because I'm a man just
30:35
like I'm I'm fallible. You know, I've dropped the ball,
30:40
I've made mistakes, I've wrestled with things.
30:42
And so I look at the growth and overall, you know, I'll pass it
30:45
back to you in just a second. Paul, I, I have to be
30:48
transparent and say this is a long and drawn out cost and
30:53
battle. And there's certain things I
30:56
just don't want to talk about because I don't want to start
30:59
busting out tears on my own show like I, I just don't there's,
31:02
it's heavy at times, man. It really is.
31:04
But I've seen some beauty and I've felt just enough of that.
31:09
I'm with you. It's going to be OK.
31:12
Just enough of that peace that I've been able to maintain up
31:16
until this time. Well, I my observation, you
31:19
know, as you were, as you were talking, is it's, it's a little
31:22
bit funny that you're, that you're talking to a pastor
31:24
because I would say representing the church perspective.
31:28
A lot of the reason you have a large audience is because people
31:32
in my position are not talking about things.
31:36
They just don't want to talk about certain issues.
31:40
Now I have found as a pastor, you can talk about them.
31:44
You need to be careful and you need to be thoroughly biblically
31:47
prepared. But the reality is you will find
31:51
people are like, thank God you're explaining this.
31:54
Thank, you know, I had no idea or I had no idea it was this
31:57
bad. Thank God these issues are
31:59
actually covered in the Bible. You know, like I just, you know,
32:04
I've got questions. And unfortunately, you know, I
32:08
think the church will make its way out of it because God's
32:10
really gracious and the church, you know, frequently finds
32:14
itself on the right path because God's just really good to us.
32:16
But the American church, at least let me say it from that
32:19
perspective, you know, there, there's just big segments of it.
32:23
We don't want to rock the boat and we we don't want to cover
32:26
topics that are going to thin the crowd or or not be the kind
32:31
of felt neat approach that's just so common.
32:33
And if if it were that easy, I would understand it.
32:38
But as, as we've discussed, we got giants at the gate and the
32:43
pastime of the American church is just to nitpick each other on
32:46
social media over who's got the right theology.
32:49
I mean, it's like we have giants outside the gates.
32:53
It's we have very real issues coming down the Pike.
32:57
And thank God that there is places where people can go like
33:01
like this podcast. Because sadly, guys in my
33:07
position, there's not enough of us talking about this.
33:10
So people have to go somewhere. Thank God.
33:13
You know, one of the reasons we clicked was just the realization
33:16
we're both going to bring it back to a biblical perspective.
33:19
We're always going to bring it back through that filter because
33:22
you can hear people talk about giants and all sorts of things,
33:24
but they're new Agers. They're not, you know, they can
33:26
talk Jesus, but the reality is, I can tell you're not talking
33:30
about the same Jesus I'm talking about.
33:32
So part of the success of the podcast is kind of built on if
33:36
more people had been doing their job, you might not, you might
33:40
not have as many people that need this information, but thank
33:43
God the that there's been a place to go.
33:47
I've told the Lord many times that when this door closes and
33:51
my job is done, it's because a generation has been raised up to
33:57
meet the standard, you know, And as quickly as things move these
34:00
days, I have no idea what next year looks like anymore.
34:02
But you're right, it's a void. There was there was an absence.
34:08
Honestly, when you see a void that is biblically, I mean, the
34:13
principles are there, you know, the supernatural warfare, who we
34:17
really are, the price that's been paid for us, who's calling
34:21
us by name forward to fight things that most people can't
34:25
even define or believe exist and and they exist.
34:29
They exist and I think it's beautiful that the I mean, you
34:33
really can find a growing interest and part of what's
34:38
beautiful about it is just the love of truth.
34:41
And people will go find truth. They're getting, you know, truth
34:44
that they need in their church. But there's, there's other
34:47
questions that they have and they they need a place where the
34:51
biblical worldview is going to be foremost and, and central and
34:57
wow, who, who'd believe the topics?
34:59
You know, even just rolling the clock back 1020 years, could you
35:03
believe that none of these topics were on people's radar
35:05
There, There were a handful of people voices in the wilderness.
35:09
But look at how you've carried this forward since 2020.
35:14
You've gained a lot of ground. You've you've grown.
35:17
And that's kind of leads into, you know, what you wanted to
35:21
talk about tonight was just sort of the need for some Sabbath
35:25
rest. You've been carrying this a long
35:28
time and you're going to keep carrying it forward, but you
35:32
need a little breather. Yeah, I do.
35:35
I I set out to try to bring on more help because I knew in the
35:41
back of my mind I needed a break.
35:47
Not the kind that hurts you, right?
35:50
They created more work. But I but I loved to see the
35:54
growth and people that were once listeners, you know, come on
35:58
board and actually start to see like, hey, this is what it looks
36:02
like and get a taste. I have people that that help.
36:05
You know, Aaron has rescued my schedule quite a number of
36:08
times. You know, Carly has submitted
36:11
audio messages over the years. I've had other people
36:14
intermittently step up and help with certain things for short
36:18
seasons. But I'm thankful for all of it.
36:20
And yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm really looking at this point in
36:24
time. This will release at episode
36:27
250. I'm going to take a little break
36:30
and an evaluation. Yeah, I think just as you know,
36:36
Rod kind of throws his heart out there and says, I need a break
36:39
for for the audience standpoint. In a sense you're there's still
36:43
content that's in the, you know, that's going to be coming down
36:45
the Pike. So you, you may not notice this
36:49
in, in real time necessarily, but Rod's taking a break in real
36:53
time. You know, there'll still be some
36:55
things coming on the podcast that are going to be released
36:58
that will sort of, you know, bridge that gap.
37:00
But he's taking a break. He needs your prayers and needs
37:03
your support and needs your encouragement, your financial
37:06
support and the freedom from the audience to, you know, for, for
37:11
him to be able to hear, hey, we get it, dude.
37:14
Take a break, man. Thank you for all the great
37:16
content. You've got such an incredible
37:18
library. You know, if there's things that
37:22
are getting, you know, there's still new content that's going
37:23
to be coming out while Rod's taking a break, but you can go
37:25
back and listen to my God, you've got some of the best
37:28
guests. You've got people I've listened
37:29
to on other shows there. There's plenty of things to
37:32
enjoy, but whether you really notice it in real time, Rod
37:37
needs a breather. Be praying for him, encourage
37:40
him, be supportive. I'm really excited to hear where
37:46
things are going to be going from the future.
37:48
And I, I found in ministry, there's always seasons.
37:51
You can fight a season and usually not successfully.
37:56
There's times when you just sort of know some things are winding
37:59
down, some some things are spinning up and you just sort of
38:03
learn to just kind of go with the Holy Spirit.
38:06
So this is one of those times where Rod's going to be backing
38:09
off a little bit. Keep him in your heart and mind
38:12
because this, this is this does cost something, but I'm excited
38:16
to also to hear where things are headed.
38:19
I know he's needs some time to reflect, but what are some of
38:22
your thoughts on where this is going to be going?
38:26
You know, post your, your, your rest and break.
38:29
How can the audience be supportive?
38:32
You know, everything we've been talking about personally and
38:35
what you just said is, is the heart of the issue.
38:39
I want to take a seat with the audience and look at it, you
38:43
know, I want to get out of that production for a couple weeks
38:46
and yeah, contents still going to come not 2 episodes a week.
38:50
I'm, you know, possibly just one.
38:52
I might skip one week overall, make you guys wait for the first
38:55
time in a couple years maybe 15 days for an episode.
38:59
But. Make it.
39:00
Make it 2. Yeah, two weeks.
39:02
Whatever. We we can handle it Rod and.
39:05
If the Lord, you know, tells me back off for three or four weeks
39:08
and and change my pace, I'll be sensitive to that.
39:11
And I that's kind of the reason for this is like, I guess you
39:15
could say leading up to it, all these breakthroughs that keep
39:18
happening, you know, connections, crossovers,
39:21
conversations, like productions that are taking place that the
39:24
audience doesn't know anything about.
39:26
Many different swords being forged in many different fires.
39:31
So some of that needs to be prayed about.
39:33
And I need to hear on some of those things.
39:36
I mean, my God, like we've just done amazing things.
39:39
Like, God has opened so many doors.
39:41
You know, Doctor Laura Sanger's book, Generation Hoodwinks.
39:45
I, I was able to endorse that with a list of other people.
39:48
And I want to sit down and read it.
39:51
I read it before it went to production, but that was like,
39:54
you know, on the iPad. I have a physical copy here and
39:59
I, you know, I kind of want to take a walk.
40:02
Grounds and read a book and have you know, do something different
40:05
for for a minute and see what I hear.
40:07
But where I think we're going now, I know what's being done
40:11
behind the scenes because I'm, I'm producing, answering the
40:14
phone, right? Well, yeah, there's.
40:15
Projecting people, yeah, there's stuff happening, man.
40:18
It is aggressive in a good way. But I think God's going to have
40:24
his way, and I think we're going to see more of an exodus from
40:28
the mundane, nonchalant, programmed mentality that a lot
40:33
of us have been waking up to over the years.
40:36
I think we're going to see a much larger number of people
40:38
start to, you know, reciprocate the depths of what God is
40:44
echoing out, which is come out of Babylon.
40:47
Trust that he leads us into all truth.
40:51
And the stage that's set before us.
40:53
There's a lot of actors on it that aren't on the side most
40:57
people might think they're on. There's a lot of deception to
41:00
wade through. I I think that there's going to
41:02
be an explosion on the MMSI think we're going to start to
41:07
publicly entertain some of the private conversations I've had
41:11
because I've talked with people that most people wouldn't
41:13
believe me if I told you I'm not here to be like, oh, I know so
41:17
and so I'm just saying God is doing stuff.
41:19
And if it resonates and he's choosing, you know, God could
41:25
very well say, Rod, I'm sending you a different direction, or he
41:28
could plug somebody else in. I don't know.
41:30
It's going to happen. We're going to see this
41:34
information resonate and it's going to be on the billboards.
41:37
It's going to be in the front of, you know, your Barnes and
41:40
Noble. It's going to be, you're not
41:42
going to be able to get away from it because I do believe
41:44
that when the awakening happens, it's contagious to get the
41:49
truth. It's contagious.
41:51
You can't hold it in it. It spreads like a wildfire and
41:55
the whole world is experiencing it.
41:57
It's just we haven't seen. The harvesters have been
42:04
prepared, is what I'm saying, Paul.
42:06
And there's a harvest coming. Well, and I think, I think we've
42:09
all experienced as you, you know, people call it the red
42:14
pill or waking up or, you know, like there's my God, I'm seeing
42:17
the world differently. And, and it's a little, it's,
42:20
it's scary and overwhelming. And there needs to be those
42:24
voices that are like, Hey, listen, I, I feel you.
42:29
I was there once. I know you've, I know this has
42:32
got a little overwhelming and everywhere you look, you see the
42:34
hand of the enemy. But trust me, the Kingdom of God
42:37
is moving forward. And that only comes from a voice
42:41
that's already processed that awakening or that, that, hey,
42:46
I've been where you are. It looks overwhelming.
42:48
Your, your narratives aren't serving you anymore.
42:50
And you see the enemy everywhere.
42:53
We'll just read the Kingdom of God's everywhere too.
42:55
King Jesus is on the move and and this is all going to work
42:59
out. That's, that's the, the beauty
43:01
of, you know, part of what I locked into with the days of
43:04
Noah was there was a group of people that went through all of
43:08
this, you know, bioengineered insanity once before God kept a
43:13
people through it. And we got big things coming
43:17
down the Pike and the wake up is going to only accelerate.
43:19
I totally agree with you. And, and there needs to be those
43:23
people that have I've already been through this process.
43:26
Let me, let me walk with you, You know, listen to these voices
43:30
that they're going to bring some comfort because these are hard
43:33
issues, really hard stuff. Yeah, it's so well said.
43:37
I was having a conversation the other week and the gentleman was
43:40
like, I feel like you can speak to this because I heard your
43:44
testimony. I know what you've been through
43:47
and he's going through a similar situation.
43:49
And and it, it's funny that we know that about ourselves, but
43:54
there's, there's these climactical moments where you
43:57
feel it, you, you swell up with the reality of my God, I have
44:03
been stabbed, lied to, cheated on, right, all the way, all the
44:08
worst things. And then you're like, God's
44:10
faithful. Oh my God, it was a season.
44:13
He rescued me and then there's some confidence that surges up
44:17
out of you when you realize it's that connection with somebody
44:20
else. You're like, you're a younger
44:21
version of me and I don't know, it resonates with people.
44:25
You have the anointing of fearlessness and truth on you.
44:29
And I'm just going, bro, I've just been there.
44:31
I've tasted and seen that the Lord is good.
44:34
His plans are not to destroy those who are calling on His
44:37
name. He's rescuing us in the most
44:40
peculiar way. And I know that's not
44:43
everybody's story. Some people listening may not be
44:45
able to resonate with that. But I will say the still small
44:50
voice is stirring up an army for the days that we're living in,
44:55
and we're going to see greater things.
44:58
This is all kind of been a preparation phase in a lot of
45:02
ways, Paul. Yeah.
45:03
And I think that the, the, the, the reality of a break is, you
45:09
know #1 it's biblical #2 it's got some, some practical aspects
45:15
of it. You just, you just need to let a
45:17
topic kind of breathe a little bit.
45:19
As writers were always advised, when you finish your draft and
45:22
you've gone through a lot of edits, you, you need to like not
45:25
touch it for a little while because it's so in your head and
45:29
you need to let it sit somewhere.
45:31
And then after you get a little break, you go back and take a
45:34
look at it and your eyes will be able to pick up things that you
45:36
just couldn't see before. And that's exactly what the plan
45:40
is. It's really important that you
45:42
guys understand the transparency that I wanted to do this
45:47
publicly because in a lot of ways, I'm creating a standard,
45:50
guys. I don't have a model that I've
45:55
fit into to create this. A lot of it is the tip of the
45:59
spear lead those who are the sons of God are led by the
46:02
Spirit of God. It's like, where are we going?
46:05
I'll tell you when we get there. So kind of setting a bit of a
46:11
standard and and really hoping that you guys will hear from the
46:15
Lord for your own life, your direction, but also if God is
46:19
whispering to donate to this ministry specifically to write
46:24
an e-mail, whatever I mean. Yeah, the encouragement goes a
46:29
long way. It goes a long way.
46:31
Yeah, it really does. When I said planting seeds,
46:33
Paul, it it's not just monetarily it it's, it literally
46:38
is that secret prayer encouragement, the e-mail that
46:41
comes through and says, man, I see you, you know, it's planting
46:45
seeds. And that's kind of what I wanted
46:48
to be made known here to Paul was.
46:50
And I and I know Rod's heart. He's not he's really not one to
46:54
ask, you know, and one of the reasons I feel a confidence and
46:59
just and, and just giving a nudge.
47:01
I think there's a lot of folks in your audience that they they
47:05
do they've had it in their mind. You know what I even a little
47:09
bit to donate. Go ahead and just obey that
47:12
nudge. That's just me gently just
47:15
reminding you for those of you out there that have you've
47:18
already felt the nudge. We're asking you to obey the
47:21
Holy Spirit. We're asking you to to just do
47:23
what God lays on your heart to do.
47:25
I just kind of have a feeling that there's folks out there
47:27
that they've kind of felt that nudge.
47:29
Yeah, I'm going to drop a little bit in or I'm going to do, you
47:31
know, something, go ahead and do it.
47:33
It'll mean it'll mean the world of Rod, especially at this time
47:35
period, he's taking stock of things.
47:38
And this is this has cost something to get here.
47:40
So, you know, if, if the Holy Spirit's laid it on your heart,
47:45
it's always good to obey the Holy Spirit.
47:46
You'll be so blessed. And I know Rod, is that a point
47:49
where he would so deeply appreciate it and and be so
47:53
charged by it? Because I know he's going to
47:56
take a break and he's going to be ready to come out of the gate
47:58
swinging. And all of that kind of support.
48:01
And whether it's prayer or whether it's an encouraging word
48:04
or whether it's just dropping something in that's going to
48:06
help pay for the infrastructure is so deeply appreciated and,
48:10
and going to be part of the next season and the things that the
48:15
podcast will be doing down the road because there's there's no
48:19
shortage of giants in the land at this point.
48:21
We we do have a a target rich environment, don't we?
48:24
It's very true. I couldn't have said it any
48:27
better myself. Well, it has been a pleasure to
48:31
ask you some questions and, and have you be given the
48:35
opportunity to sort of share your heart.
48:38
We love, we love the interviews, we love the guests, we love the
48:40
topics, but the reality is the reason people come here is
48:45
because on some level this is a safe place for them.
48:47
They trust you. They, they, they like where
48:49
you're coming from. So I'm glad we've had that
48:52
opportunity. You deserved it and
48:54
congratulations on getting it this far.
48:57
And I think it's just because I'm so new to this.
48:59
When you throw out numbers and countries and, and stuff like
49:02
that, I'm just like thrilled because I'm like, wow, because
49:04
this is just not, this is not the world I deal with.
49:07
So it's really cool to hear some of the inside baseball.
49:10
But anything in closing that you want to share with the audience?
49:14
Season 1 and 2, if you want to go back there, it's a little
49:17
rough if you haven't ran through season 4 or five more precisely,
49:24
like episode maybe 98 and up, run through that.
49:29
If you're newer to the show and you haven't kind of went through
49:33
the archives. If you've been rocking with me
49:35
all of this time, I think you're going to completely understand
49:39
what I'm doing and there's not going to be any, you know, step
49:44
back on your end. I think you guys are going to
49:46
step up and kind of fill that void right now.
49:49
But for the newer people, there's plenty of content here
49:52
and I've done very strong collaborations.
49:55
You know, I've been on the Days of Noah podcast probably 30 or
50:00
40 times. They have 150 episodes.
50:04
You know, if you've maxed out my content, you already know who I
50:07
collaborate with. Go take, you know, take a really
50:10
quick week or two to say hi to them.
50:12
But I'm going to come out of the gate swinging when I show back
50:15
up in full force. So don't go too far.
50:19
Pray for me. Plant seeds and share these
50:21
episodes far and wide. You literally are helping us
50:24
find another person that's just like us.
50:26
That's how this thing is started.
50:28
It start. It started with, you know, 10 or
50:31
2030 people that started sharing it.
50:34
I've never paid to promote this show.
50:37
I don't even have Facebook anymore.
50:39
Like I don't post the link anywhere, upload an episode and
50:42
thousands and thousands of you in the first, you know, couple
50:45
days or week are listening on a monthly basis.
50:48
It's significant. I'm perplexed to be able to be
50:53
in this situation. It's very humbling and you guys
50:56
are amazing for taking this journey with me.
50:58
Like I you guys, I don't know all the stories and all of your
51:03
battles, but I can imagine if you're going down this road,
51:07
mighty warriors trees, what a oaks of righteousness yes like
51:12
wow. Yeah, this is the John.
51:14
It's an honor. Yeah.
51:15
Proud. The the voice calling in the
51:17
wilderness. But the topics, as you know, if
51:20
you start to wrap your head around them, you know, this
51:22
stuff is societal, It's global. It's not going away.
51:27
The church needs to get its head around it.
51:29
So thank you so much for being one of those voices in the
51:32
wilderness that that demanded a better explanation than what
51:36
you'd received so far. I know you were the right person
51:39
to do this with. Paul, you've been pastoring a
51:41
long time. I appreciate our off air
51:44
conversations, prayer and advice and things of that sort.
51:47
And I really feel like we accomplished exactly what I was
51:51
setting out to do with this celebration and.
51:54
Amen. Rest announcement.
51:56
Yeah, fantastic. All right, well, that is going
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to be it for this episode. Rod, thank you so much for
52:04
joining us. I know that's kind of funny.
52:05
This is the house that you built, but thank you for thank
52:07
you for allowing the gears to switch a little bit and and you
52:11
could hear from where you're coming from.
52:13
And so thank you so much for joining and please support a
52:16
friend Rod as he takes a little breather.
52:18
Again, contents coming and there's other things coming that
52:21
I we can't really only talk about yet.
52:24
There's other things coming down the Pike, but please play for
52:28
Rod. Please be supportive my hello
52:30
Cinema. You know, buy him a coffee
52:32
however. But thank you so much audience.
52:35
We look forward to talking to you again soon.
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I came from the sun, but one of the only straight from the
52:54
heavens. You really owe me.
52:57
All of my life I was beating up in my life.
53:00
I didn't handle hope. All in my life I was stuck in on
53:03
track. All in my life I didn't handle
53:05
rat. I didn't know why my life was so
53:07
wet. I didn't know why my life was a
53:10
rat. I didn't know why I couldn't get
53:12
up. I was so stuck.
53:13
And the monkey was stuck till I found out.
53:16
And I broke everything till I fell down.
53:18
And they took everything until I was hurting.
53:20
My heart was strained. Yeah, I was broken.
53:23
I had all this pain held on home.
53:25
It got harder than I had no truth but to look to my guy.
53:31
He gave me to me up, open my eye.
53:33
He gave me earrings and he told me I'm blessed.
53:35
He told me he just believe in this.
53:38
I told him I can't change all of my ways.
53:40
He said I got you, just look at this.
53:42
I looked at him and he showed me his ways.
53:44
Then he just told me how I am. See he just told me I'm not in
53:48
this world. He told me I come from the
53:50
heavens above. I'm a new creature.
53:52
I come from the sun, from the one and only straight from the
53:55
heavens. You really owe me.
53:57
I came from the sun. I was really with him.
53:59
And heavenly places I'm still living.
54:01
Y'all can't even go that way. Y'all don't even know that way.
54:06
Y'all want to play like Patty Katie but this ain't no game.
54:09
But it's that way right? You wipe this on fake when you
54:13
walk under me and I know you a snake.
54:16
You think you can be me but you got no problem.
54:18
You want in a way I take out that trouble.
54:21
I put on your top and I prank on your face.
54:25
I see you laughing. You think that you got me but
54:27
you got no way. The evil you said for my life is
54:31
OK because it's made for my good.
54:34
My God that created he created you so you really is cooked.
54:38
I said all these things because I know what is true and you know
54:41
you is cooked. You know you can never go and
54:54
get saved. You know his crazy, his mercy
54:57
was too from you when you're my son at the plot.
55:00
Thought you could take on my God's spot now, but you can die
55:03
hot. You was really tweaking.
55:05
I come from the sun, from the one and the only straight from
55:07
the heavens. You really owe me.
55:09
I came from the sun. I was really with them.
55:11
The heavenly places I'm see the living.
55:14
Y'all can't even go that way. Y'all don't even know that way.
55:18
Y'all want to play like Patty Kay but this ain't no game but a
55:22
stairway.