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Reporter Gets Death Threats Over Tickling Videos (Tickled) · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a single person on the planet
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  Speaker 1: that's like, oh, is this legit and actual professional tickling league? Like, no, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you know what this is. This is not some professional
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  Speaker 1: sports competition. We all know what this is about.
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  Speaker 4: It's Pride Month. We're getting another film through this Pride Month,
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  Speaker 4: through all these people that you know, we're including everyone,
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  Speaker 4: not just the straits, right, those straits. You know you
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  Speaker 4: got to give them a little leeway. But in this
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  Speaker 4: one you get a little of the straits. It's called Tickle,
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  Speaker 4: The twoenty sixteen film by David Ferrier and Dylan Reeves
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  Speaker 4: narrated by David Ferrier. This film is something I've never seen.
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  Speaker 4: I've never even heard about it. It was completely off
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  Speaker 4: my radar. I had no clue what I was getting into,
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  Speaker 4: and it really threw me through a loop because of
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  Speaker 4: how it's starts. Like, so, basically, a reporter in New
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  Speaker 4: Zealand comes across this thing on Facebook where it's a
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  Speaker 4: page of professional tickling. Right, it's a sporting event where
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  Speaker 4: they have two guys on top of a guy and
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  Speaker 4: they start tickling them.
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  Speaker 5: And he's like, whoa, what is this? This is kind
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  Speaker 5: of weird, and he follows the obscure right.
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  Speaker 4: His reporting style is finding obscure things different cultures, and
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  Speaker 4: he runs across this and like, wow, professional tickling, huh,
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  Speaker 4: Like this is an actual sport, and then he dives
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  Speaker 4: in from there and it has so many twists and turns.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think if you start watching the beginning, you
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  Speaker 5: will not expect how it ends.
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  Speaker 1: And I just got to say, whether you're a reporter
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  Speaker 1: that comes across an ad for professional tickling or someone
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  Speaker 1: proposes like hey kid, you want to come and you know,
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  Speaker 1: get filmed doing this professional everyone knows what this is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a single person on the planet
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  Speaker 1: that's like, oh, is this legit and actual professional tickling league? Like, na,
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  Speaker 1: you know what this is. This is not some professional
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  Speaker 1: sports competition. We all know what this is about.
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  Speaker 5: Plotting the cores.
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  Speaker 4: So David discovers videos label competitive endurance tickling where men
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  Speaker 4: are restrained. Young men are restrained and they're pretty much
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  Speaker 4: like when I mean restrained, I'm talking about they are
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  Speaker 4: like strapped to a bed the ground wherever fe end
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  Speaker 4: arms with a man over them, like saddled over them,
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  Speaker 4: like really.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's it's full on. It's on.
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  Speaker 4: It's UFC bagear right, Like it's when you're when you're
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  Speaker 4: watching octer, like guys can knock come out and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: he's just laying on the whole time.
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  Speaker 5: It's cool, dude, that's jiu jitsu.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 1: He brings out feathers and then he brings out like
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  Speaker 1: a little toothbrush with bristles.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so The thing that was funny to me
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  Speaker 4: in the beginning, like they're presenting this as you know,
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  Speaker 4: this ad and and this league, will you say, but
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  Speaker 4: I was like, how could it be competitive tickling?
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  Speaker 5: But like how do you win? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm like, wouldn't that be your first? Like okay,
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  Speaker 4: this is competitive tickling, Like how does it work? They're
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  Speaker 4: just like tickling. There's no like oh one point for
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  Speaker 4: the Red team, like he got him in the armpit,
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  Speaker 4: like nothing. You're just like, oh, he's just laying on
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  Speaker 4: top of another guy. Like it's just like fetish film
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  Speaker 4: one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's it, right. I don't think anyone is
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  Speaker 1: is surprised to find out. A couple of people are like,
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  Speaker 1: what the way there? This is being used for adult film.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I never considered the So see, here's how
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  Speaker 1: it lays out, right. So this New Zealand pop culture
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  Speaker 1: reporter and it starts out he's like interviewing Justin Bieber
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  Speaker 1: and like you know, he's he's well known in New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand and he comes across this advertisement and the more
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  Speaker 1: he looks into it, they offer a free flight to
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  Speaker 1: LA from wherever you're at, fifteen one hundred dollars cash,
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  Speaker 1: four nights in a hotel in LA and all just
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  Speaker 1: to do this competitive endurance tickling. So the reporter reaches
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  Speaker 1: out for an interview and he's just like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: found your advertisement. I'm interesting. It's a company called Jane
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  Speaker 1: O'Brien Media, and he's like, hey, I want to just
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  Speaker 1: see if I can get in contact with Jen O'Brien
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  Speaker 1: or anyone else that wants to talk to me about
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  Speaker 1: this competitive Endurance tickling thing that you've got going on.
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  Speaker 1: And immediately he starts getting berated for being like they
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  Speaker 1: look him up and they find out that he's gay,
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  Speaker 1: so they're like, they start berating him, and they tell
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  Speaker 1: them like, not only are you gay, and this is
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  Speaker 1: a moral and you're a degenerate and you're disgusting and
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  Speaker 1: you're everything that's wrong with this world. And then they say,
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  Speaker 1: the Competitive Endurance Tickling League does not want to be
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  Speaker 1: associated with any homosexuals, Like they spell this out for him,
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  Speaker 1: But then they start calling them every day and they
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  Speaker 1: start sending them letters and like it turns into a
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  Speaker 1: harassment campaign. And legitimately it just started with him calling
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  Speaker 1: and asking for an interview, so them starting to harass
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  Speaker 1: him and call him gay and like even get into
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  Speaker 1: like making threats. That's when he's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a documentary about this, Like congratulations, Streisan effect,
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  Speaker 1: like you are now the new focus of my next project.
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  Speaker 4: And then as immediately, like fifteen minutes into like seventeen
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  Speaker 4: minute mark, he's getting all these threats and they're like,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna sue the shit out of you if you
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  Speaker 4: release a documentary. And like he's like in the beginning
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  Speaker 4: already thinking like I don't know if we should do this.
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  Speaker 4: His his team is like, I just let it go, bro,
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  Speaker 4: Like this guy is harassing you too much. Just get
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  Speaker 4: out of there. This litigation is gonna kill you. Because
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  Speaker 4: it's so different because he's getting sued in the American
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  Speaker 4: courts because he works with, you know, the people in
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  Speaker 4: New York, but he's from New Zealand.
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  Speaker 5: So there's like this real great area that I think that.
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  Speaker 4: The Jane O'Brien quote unquote is using to like threaten him,
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  Speaker 4: Like he doesn't know how much of it is empty
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  Speaker 4: threats or not. And he has to decide is he
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  Speaker 4: going to further this, And he's like debating that in
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  Speaker 4: the first twenty minutes, right, like he's like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if I'm gonna continue this documentary or let it go.
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  Speaker 4: But then he gets some information that they're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: in New Zealand and they're gonna fly in, but he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't know when some of the competitive ticklers and they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we'll just like meet him there, and so he goes
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  Speaker 4: to the airport at five am and just waits. And
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  Speaker 4: then when he finds some of the guys involved and
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  Speaker 4: they're kind of like some reluctant, but some talking. Then
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  Speaker 4: there's this big, heavy set guy with gray hair that's like,
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  Speaker 4: don't feel me, you can't feel me, and like he's
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  Speaker 4: just angry. And at first I'm not really sure if
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  Speaker 4: he's a part of this or he's just walking through,
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  Speaker 4: you know what i mean, because sometimes when you put
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  Speaker 4: a camera on, some people just flip out, so it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't really like I wasn't sure.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, is this guy? Who is this guy? But
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  Speaker 5: he's so angry, like he was super pissed.
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  Speaker 4: And then later on in the film you see like,
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  Speaker 4: oh he's part of this, Like he's definitely recruited these kids.
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  Speaker 5: So they're taking people all across the world.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just and the crazy thing is their cells, right,
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  Speaker 4: they have little location spots of where they're like breeding
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  Speaker 4: this and they'll get you from Italy, from Australia to
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  Speaker 4: New Zealand. That they even have like little campstick sure enough.
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  Speaker 4: Where I'm at in Michigan, Mesquigue, Michigan, I'm not there.
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  Speaker 4: There's a cell that they're like have a community that's
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  Speaker 4: building off of this whole enterprise where they're going from
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  Speaker 4: the amateur UFC guys, which is kind of funny, man,
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  Speaker 4: like all of the jiu jitsu guys are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'll lay on you and tickle you.
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  Speaker 1: How should you say? Fifteen hundred? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Okay and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the New Zealand documentary producer Dave Dave right is
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  Speaker 1: his name, I can't remember his name. He tracks this
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  Speaker 1: tickling competition to a German company originally, and this German
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  Speaker 1: company owns like three hundred different domains, like all these
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  Speaker 1: different tickling related domains. So he realizes it's not just
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  Speaker 1: this one small little organization. There's like a global competitive
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  Speaker 1: tickling enterprise that's got its tentacles like all throughout the
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  Speaker 1: entire world. And you're talking about when he goes to
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand and there's like a forties fifties guy, there's
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  Speaker 1: like the grumpy sixties guy, and then there's like like
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  Speaker 1: a twenty three year old twink that looks like the
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  Speaker 1: dude is, you know, still coming down off whatever they drugs.
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  Speaker 1: They had this kid on on the flight. I had
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  Speaker 1: that old angry guy clock as part of them immediately,
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  Speaker 1: just because we'll have to go into these documentary series elsewhere.
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  Speaker 1: But in scientology there's this concept called bull baiting, and
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  Speaker 1: bull baiting is when you've got like one overly concerned,
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  Speaker 1: hyper positive guy and then you've got like an overly negative.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of got like a good cop bad cop dynamic,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll use that to try and break you down
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  Speaker 1: and just like get you to submit through just being
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  Speaker 1: nasty to you in conversation. And when this guy came out,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is like scientology bull baiting,
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  Speaker 1: but the competitive tickling angle of all this. And also
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  Speaker 1: I see a lot of those First Amendment auditor videos
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  Speaker 1: where they're like, I can film anywhere I want. I'm
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  Speaker 1: on the sidewalk, you can't stop me. Go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: call the cops, I know my So like there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of that where the guy's like, you can't
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  Speaker 1: film me in public, and the journalist is like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll due respect, but I can like the
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  Speaker 1: laws of New Zealand, and I'm pretty sure the laws
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  Speaker 1: in New York too, but laws of New Zealand's like
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  Speaker 1: you can film in public, so they start getting really
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  Speaker 1: angry about that. And then he ends up having like
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  Speaker 1: a meeting with them in a hotel room or somewhere
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  Speaker 1: else like that night or like the next day, and
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  Speaker 1: they only have audio recording of this, and they've got
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  Speaker 1: like video from across the street and one of the
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  Speaker 1: guys I think it's the older guy, and they're basically
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  Speaker 1: telling him like back off, don't cover this, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want any part of this. And finally the old guy goes,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to stick your head in a blast furnace,
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  Speaker 1: then do it. And it was just like wow, these
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  Speaker 1: guys legitimately think that, like they have some kind of
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  Speaker 1: huge sway here.
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  Speaker 4: And then you kind of get to this level they
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  Speaker 4: have two reporters, Like he's trying to uncover what was
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  Speaker 4: going on because these boys were misled, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: they were offered money and flights.
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  Speaker 5: And then it goes way back in the internet days.
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  Speaker 4: Bro, like the beginning of the Internet with Terry Tickles,
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  Speaker 4: Like I was like, who's Terry Tickles? And they show
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  Speaker 4: this like headshot of like an eighties woman like right
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  Speaker 4: with the metal bands like the Poison errw Hair right
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  Speaker 4: of like oh man, I love this and this is
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  Speaker 4: like ninety two, like you can see the first Internet,
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  Speaker 4: like you're on AOL, you're using all this stuff. And
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  Speaker 4: there was ads where this all started of like some
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  Speaker 4: tickling competitions where they were looking for young men that
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  Speaker 4: like for a tickling fetish, right, and she was like
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  Speaker 4: look like a pretty girl for a time older right,
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  Speaker 4: looking for younger men where like they're like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I would love to see that woman.
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  Speaker 5: Right, that's what they think they're getting into.
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  Speaker 4: And turns out this terry Tickles was finding college students
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  Speaker 4: pretty much the age of sixteen, so I'd say was
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  Speaker 4: like the range that they were looking for, like that adolescence,
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of college, end of high school era. And
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  Speaker 4: they start finding and tarting kids boys specifically, and they're
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  Speaker 4: like sending gifts like hey man, you want a new walkman,
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  Speaker 4: you want a thousand dollars in cash, like where they're
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  Speaker 4: getting free money and they're like, oh, this is awesome,
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  Speaker 4: and then they're being enticed like oh I just have
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  Speaker 4: to go over.
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  Speaker 5: And at first it's actually there's a woman tickling the man.
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  Speaker 4: They have this old footage of like where it looks
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  Speaker 4: like they bring these boys in and it's actually a
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  Speaker 4: woman tickling men, and they're.
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  Speaker 5: Like, oh, it's not that bad, right, Like they kind
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  Speaker 5: of like it all right, yeah, all day and I
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  Speaker 5: getting free stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Then it starts getting a little dark because as these
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  Speaker 4: kids are growing up, they're like, I don't really need
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  Speaker 4: this on my resume, right, I don't need to be
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  Speaker 4: dealing with this professional tickling or these tickling videos. Anytime
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  Speaker 4: they say no or try to get away, this terry
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  Speaker 4: tickles starts ruining their lives, like sending emails and sending letters,
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  Speaker 4: talking to your parents, talking to your teachers, your coaches
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  Speaker 4: like anybody they can, and setting these videos and making
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  Speaker 4: websites and domains with all the videos you made with
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  Speaker 4: your name, like it will be Sean Chris dot com.
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  Speaker 5: And it'll be like a bunch of tickling.
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  Speaker 1: Videos, address your phone number, your license plate, like just
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  Speaker 1: straight docsing people.
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  Speaker 5: So when David discovers before all that, he sees the same.
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  Speaker 4: Pattern with this Jane O'Brien, he's like, WHOA, that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of weird, Like these people have been calling out this
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  Speaker 4: Jane O'Brien where she's attacking and calling their parents and
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  Speaker 4: sending videos to their coaches, teachers, employers, all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And then when he traces it back to the old
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  Speaker 4: journal journalists from the nineties that was following, he's like,
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  Speaker 4: this is the same pattern of this Terry Tickles.
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  Speaker 5: You see, the same thing is.
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  Speaker 4: Where the harassment level is crazy, Like it's this is
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  Speaker 4: where it gets interesting. Like we were watching that I
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  Speaker 4: forget the name of unknown catfish or whatever, where the
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  Speaker 4: mom is baiting the girl right like I was saying like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm your ex and talking all this crap to
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  Speaker 4: her where she's stalking and cyberbulloying her.
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  Speaker 5: This is like the origins.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, dude, this is the origin story of
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  Speaker 4: all this because this Terry Tickles is now taking it
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  Speaker 4: to levels of where she's getting people not just fired.
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  Speaker 4: The one kid is at Drexler and she takes down
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  Speaker 4: the Drexler website, school website and makes it look like
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  Speaker 4: it was him. Again, this is the nineties right now,
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  Speaker 4: everybody was super tech savvy, so it was probably pretty
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  Speaker 4: easy to do this. I think she even attacked the
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  Speaker 4: White House as well, making it look like the kid
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  Speaker 4: did it. So they were getting so much trouble and
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  Speaker 4: so much heat just for saying no. So through some
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  Speaker 4: of these interviews, like with TJ was one of the
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  Speaker 4: victims that was broadcast everywhere where not only his email,
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  Speaker 4: his cell phone, his home address, and things were sent
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  Speaker 4: to his coaches.
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  Speaker 5: He was like a football player said he lost a
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  Speaker 5: lot of stuff from it.
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  Speaker 4: But then when they trailed back to this terry tickle,
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  Speaker 4: David Diomatto seems to be the main character behind this
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  Speaker 4: terry tickles which is uncovered by a journalist.
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  Speaker 5: And this is where it gets interesting to me, because.
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  Speaker 4: He's being prosecuted for not only for it's not just
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  Speaker 4: extortion or like participating in this professional tickling competition. It's
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  Speaker 4: for threatening, for impersonating, for taking down websites.
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  Speaker 5: And then after all this, even the journalists are shocked.
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  Speaker 4: When they find out. They're like, oh, it's a misdemeanor.
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  Speaker 4: He's just gonna serve his time in a halfway house.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the what they actually ended up getting them on
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  Speaker 1: because they had him on all of this different harassment
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  Speaker 1: and like extortion, but he ended up only getting charged
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  Speaker 1: for disabling computer systems, and that was when he took
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  Speaker 1: down that university website. And this was because there was
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  Speaker 1: an eighteen year old that he was in his tickling
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  Speaker 1: competitions to try to terminate like this relationship, and he
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  Speaker 1: he basically frames this kid, and because he tampered with
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  Speaker 1: a university system, that ends up being a six month
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  Speaker 1: present prison sentence for him. But there's nothing at all
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  Speaker 1: that he gets prosecuted in relation to all this harassment.
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  Speaker 4: And turns out David is connected to the biggest Wall
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  Speaker 4: Street lawyer of the firm that kind of runs a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stuff. And then it starts to me really
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  Speaker 4: get interesting where it changes the tone, right, You're you're
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  Speaker 4: looking at it first, I'm watching this thinking like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: these are some fetish films, these are some things that
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  Speaker 4: like we're gonna see like, oh, it's just a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of guys that are trying to disguise.
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  Speaker 5: Porn to put on Facebook. That's what I thought in
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  Speaker 5: the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Stay mean kind of is that kind of is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. But it goes way deeper than that.
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  Speaker 5: And you're like, well, what is this guy getting out
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  Speaker 5: of this?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Is he getting views, He's getting advertisements and stop
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  Speaker 4: being posted anywhere where, He's getting getting money, But he's
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  Speaker 4: shelling out a lot of money to get this, so
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  Speaker 4: and he gets a light sentence. That's where to me,
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  Speaker 4: I see, like, Okay, there's something more here. There's somebody
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  Speaker 4: protecting him, right, maybe a little epsteinish right, like where
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: something is going on here, Like maybe this is some
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: kind of program they even mentioned. I think it was
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: TJ that mentioned, Like he was told like, yeah, this
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: is something to teach the military how to combat and
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: get information and torture people through tickling.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: He's like, well, I don't believe that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Well, so that was the biggest interview they had was
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: with that guy TJ. So he says that he meets
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: up with someone named Kevin Clark who's supposed to have
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the studio, gets paid two grand, and then when he
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: actually shows up, that's when he's like, oh wait, it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: all guys. Like there's no girls. It's all guys. The
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: whole Tickling Federation as all dudes. He gets tied down
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and he says when he's there, he's talking to other
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: guys and like seeing like how did they come here?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's all athletes, it's all mma, amateurs, actors, people that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: are like trying to get ahead. I guess in La
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: kind of or elsewhere, and then he mentions that this guy,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: this Kevin Clark guy tells him like, oh well, we're
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: also maybe gonna sell some of this training videos to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the military and they're gonna use it as like an
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: interrogation technique. And he even TJ is like you know whatever,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I kind of like laughed, was like, who the hell
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: is gonna be tickling? He's like he does MMA, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: he's like, never in a million years in the middle
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of a fight, am I gonna just like start tickling
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: my opponent. That's not how any of this is gonna work.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So he pulls out and he starts getting nasty emails,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and that's when he starts searching his own name online
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and it comes up with these websites dedicated to him
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: with all his tickling videos and like his coach's name
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and his email and everything. And this is when the
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: director makes a really good point and he's like all
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: of this over some tickling, Like what is this? And
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: then he makes this statement about bullies that have way
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: too much money convinced me that I shouldn't drop it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So that's when he's like, I'm going to fly to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the us and track these guys down. Let's go and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: find him at the studio. Let's go and confront them.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And he does confront him in their hostile right. They're
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: very hostile towards him, not necessarily the other guys. It's
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: again in that big heavy set, must be some of
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: the muscle and like he's got to be into this
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: a little bit too much, right, Like that's how like
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: they get mad where he's like because I'm like, what
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: is he doing? Like I feel like he enjoys those
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: videos a little bit too much. But when you're seeing this,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: it's more of like to me where they're starting to
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: now like this is blackmailing, This is extorting people, This
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: is putting people and humiliation ritual type of events. Like
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: they may not be famous, but it's almost like this
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: practice arena that we don't know about, and it shows so.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Many different layers of it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: As he is uncovering, he finds out that Terry Tickles
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: has the same m as Jan O'Brien media, who is
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: like he's being harassed by He sees that from all
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the old film at you know, David gets out of jail.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: He deserves his time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: It's supposed to have stopped, right, everything was over, We've
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: done deal, He's been exposed, But it turns out he's
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: never stopped. And then in the early two thousands, he
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: hires this David Starr, who, like you know, did some
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: porn stuff and he filmed a lot of different things.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: So he's like, yeah, that's right up my alley, right,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'll film this, and he comes a part of it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: He kind of becomes the lead man of like running
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: the show for Dave. Dave goes and writes some letters,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: but as the j O'Brien, so he doesn't even really
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: know who he's dealing with, and he's going through getting letters. Sorry,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I have mono right little hand ritters, I would be there.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I can't help more because I'm going through so much.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sick. So he's thinking that his partner or his
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: boss in this whole thing is just a woman that
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: is getting sick. But he's just getting filmed. He's getting
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: money to film these things. And as he starts to
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: see some of the dirt and getting some of these
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: guys there, he pushes back and then he reveals a
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: whole treasure chest of letters, birthday notes, things sent to
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: his mom, harassing him when he tried to step away.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: There's even a letter that he goes, yeah, I haven't
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: opened this one yet, and he opens it on camera,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: and it's just like really degrading of where it's like
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: you're a piece of shit, Like I'm gonna tell everybody,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: do you know your son's doing this?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Your son's into pornography.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: The worst things that you could say about somebody finding
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: all the dirt they're hidden secrets, the things they're trying
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: to hide, whatever they're ashamed of, is being exposed to
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: the closest people in in your circle.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And when they end up going to New York to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like investigate this, or sorry, to the States to go
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: investigate this, and they end up actually finding those guys
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: at the studio and he was like, all right, we're
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: onto something here. He ends up tracking down a family member.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: So it's really simple how this all came together, but
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's complex in how this David Diamato was able to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: optu skate the whole opper. So the way that I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: understand it is that David Diamatto in like the nineties
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: or so, starts putting together this Tickling League idea and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: then separates his name from it, and that's when he
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: creates this Terry Tickles persona, which from based on this documentary,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Terry Tickles was a real person. Her
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: name wasn't Terry Tickles, it was Terry something, but she
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: died and he basically took her personality kind of like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: impersonated her and used for this Terry Tickles persona. And
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: then when Terry Tickles ran out of its play in
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: like two thousand and six, it transitioned to Jane O'Brien
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and Jane O'Brien Media. So Jane O'Brien was a real person,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: but she never had anything to do with this whole
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Tickling thing, just like Terry was a real person, she
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do, So it was David Diamatto then
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: adopted the persona of Terry Tickles, and then discarded that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and adopted this persona of Jan O'Brien media. It was
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: always David Diamatto the entire time. The director ends up
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: getting in contact without like an aunt or someone in
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: David Dimato's family, and I love the way he plays it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: He's like, ah, yeah, I'm just I'm calling about David
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and she's like yeah, and he's like yeah, he's he's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in trouble again, and she's like, oh no, Like he
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: kind of like plays in a certain way, and she's like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: what is it this time, and he's like, it's the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: tickling again. She's like, oh Jesus, not again. So you
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: get this indirect confirmation from a family member and she
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: starts breaking down and she's and she talks about that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: how when David was younger, he had a strained relationship
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: with his dad and he was really close to his mom.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And his mom she describes it like he was a
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: bubble boy, Like he wasn't allowed to play sports, he
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to go out and play with other kids
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: because of germs and getting hurt and anything. He was
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like mommy's fragile little boy. So he never got to
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: go out and play with anyone, which means they bullied
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: him and picked on him and he was ostracized. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: on top of that, I guess he realized he was
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: gay at a younger age. And he asks his dad
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: at one point, he dad, how would you feel if
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I told you I was gay? And he was like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed, I'd disown you, you know. So he's like, okay,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I'm totally not gay. Then I was just asking just
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to be curious. So he like suppresses this and the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: fact that he was bullied his entire life, and the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: fact that he was sheltered, and the fact that he
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: had the strain issue with his dad. This is when
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the director starts theorizing, like, Okay, it's way more than tickling.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It's like the tickling part. Sure, there's like a humiliation aspect,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but really it comes down to and then he's got
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: blackmail and then he can berate these kids. And this
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: is me. This isn't a documentary, but it's like these
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: targeting jocks and MMA guys and like dude bros, right,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like these alpha males that he's trying to get into
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: these situations. This is maybe almost a way to like
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: retroactively punish kids that he thinks would have bullied him
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: if he was around them when he was younger. So
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, I've got this upper hand. I can put
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you in compromising positions, have blackmail on you, and then
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: ruin your life. And that maybe that's what he gets
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: out of it, because, like you mentioned, there's no real income.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: He's not making money off doing these videos. He's spending
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: exhorbitant amounts of money on flying people around and putting
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: him in hotels and giving them thousands of dollars, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: no one's like paying for this content. This is not
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: like a high demand content apparently, so it really comes
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: down to he's only doing this to sort of just
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: flex a little bit and to just control people. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: then he starts digging into the finances, like okay, well,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: who the hell's funding this, And then it comes out
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that he's basically a trust fund kid that his dad
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: died left them multiple millions, and his mom died and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: left them even more multiple millions. And at the time
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: when he's looking into him, he's got something like seven
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: million dollars in his bank account. So to send thirty
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: grands to have a video made, or to send fifty
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: grand and have a lawyer just brate you and like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: come after you and scare you away is kind of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: nothing to this guy. So he's just spending all of
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: his trust fund money putting bullies into gay videos and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: then harassing them.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: And he becomes the bully right like you said, Like
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: it's like he transitioned where he's like threatening people and
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: they're getting all this information leaked, but he's not as
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: good as he thinks, right cause probably not as tech sevy.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe in ninety two you feel like you're super.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Bill Gates in ninety two, but he didn't update his
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: skills for like two decades.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: And a journalist comes across, like someone's trying to get
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: this Terry Tickles in the nineties, when the original journalists
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: had uncovered this and gave the whole story to the FBI.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Someone's like, hey, you want this Terry Tickles to stop
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: harassing you, here's a zip file.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And then in the zip file there's all this information,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Like it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Doesn't really go in the beginning, it doesn't tell you
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: everything that's in the zip file. You kind of like
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: go through it and it's like, Oh, that's all these
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: emails towards these people.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: It's all these connections.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: But towards the end, when the director of the film,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Dave gets all this information, he goes through the zip
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: file and he's like, oh, this dummy left all his
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: information on here, so.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: He found his name originally of David Motto, was through
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that zip file.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: That zip file from the nineties. He opens it and
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: it's like, oh, here's here's my real address. Here's here's
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: who I really am. Bank statements, it the treasure, tre sasure,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: trust of information, all the evidence that's needed. And then
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: he presents that back out through there and they even
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: confront the model as far as taking out waiting for
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: him to leave his apartment complex or townhouse. Uh, there's
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: They show the dramatization of it, right, like is that
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the car is that?
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Is that him right there?
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's not that's not on Mercedes.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Right And then finally they see him and they pull
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: up and it's an interesting uh reaction that the model right,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: like he's very confident in what he's doing, Like you
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: can tell that he doesn't.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: He feels untouchable.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: It is the trust fund baby syndrome where he's just like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: hey man, I'll take litigation. He's like, are you here
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: on a travel visa? He's like telling automatically he has
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: in his head how I'm going to attack you. Are
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: you here on a travel visa? We'll find that in court.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: He's already going to the court aspect of it and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: not getting violent with him, not threatening him, but just
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: only threatening him with litigation and slowly gets in so
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: you don't get much out of it, but you do
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: get to see Dematto's being, like his arrogance and what
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: he believes he is.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the end of the documentary. They
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: go and they confront him, they've sort of exposed him,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and I think not too long after this documentary came out,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Dave Dimatto dies spoiler alert, So that kind of is
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the end of the whole entire story. I don't know
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: if anyone else has taking up the mantle of all this.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: If you go and search Jane O'Brien media, you can
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: find like old Facebook posts from nine years ago where
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: they were like here's the latest, you know, meet TJ
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But I don't think anyone else has taken
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: up the handle on this one.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Hidden treasures and overboar moments.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: What you got the hidden treasure of this one? Man,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like you don't know what you're expecting going into this.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I gotta say it is obvious, like, oh, guys getting tickled,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: this is some gay fetish stuff. I don't like, you're
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: not getting tricked in this. I had no idea. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: never thought this would get out. Whatever, Bro, you saw
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: easy money and you were like, Eh, let's do it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I need fifteen hundred buck and legitimately so right. The
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: one guy TJ, he was like, my sister had cancer,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Like we needed money to survive and to pay for
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: her medication and all this stuff. So like he would
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: find people in these compromising situations and offer them free money,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: so it was really easy to get them in there.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: The hidden treasure on this is like it keeps making
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: these twists and turns because you're like, Okay, it's about
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: fetish stuff. Oh my god. Actually, now it's about this
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: international conspiracy and guys that are flying around the world
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and making threats and saying they're gonna put your head
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in a blast furnace. And then here's the example of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: them harassing a guy for like twenty years, sending him
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: birthday cards on his dead brother's birthday that say like, haha,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: your brother's dead. All all from this weird tickling competition.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So it keeps taking these twists, and it reminds me
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit of like a Tiger King style documentary,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: where at the end of every episode it's like and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: then it gets crazier like this, but this is just
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a single documentary and every twenty minutes it's like there's
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: no way, it's going to get crazier, and then it does,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and it keeps doing that over and over again. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: really love how the director of this documentary dug in
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: like he was getting bullied early on, and he was like, look,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I know the US, this is a very litigious country,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and that I don't want to get wrapped up in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: some kind of weird extradition legal stuff. I've got businesses
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that operate in the US. But at a certain point
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, screw it, Like, we're gonna
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: we're gonna dig in on this one. We're gonna go
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and see what this guy has for us. They go
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to the studio, they go up inside the studio. It's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they're so balls. He gets through legal threats, through personal threats,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and they decide to investigate it all the way to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the end. Anyways, I just thought that that was the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: biggest hidden treasure that they even decided to follow this through.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: At any point they could have been like, you know what, wels,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: just step away and work on something else.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And to your point about the h if somebody offers
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: you one thousand dollars to tickle somebody.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Or beauty tickled, like you want to get tickled.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I will give them a little credit because I think
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of it happened in like the early two thousands,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: in the nineties. I think a lot of people just
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: thought like, ah, I, no one ever see this, right,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: like it'll be on the internet. But they didn't really
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: understand how the Internet is forever, Like once you put
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: it on the Internet, it's never leaving. And I think
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: that aspect of it got stuck on them and they
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: couldn't understand that.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Not just that, but the whole aspect of using their
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: real names after it got recorded. That's wild because thinking
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that it might get online, but like, oh no, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: there's a million people out there. No one will ever
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: be able to pick me from a lineup, But to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: them put your real name and then put your address
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and everything else on it, that was wild. For overboard moments, Honestly,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't really have any, man, I think this thing
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: was edited tight. They didn't have any really like extra footage.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty short run time. It kept shifting like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it kept escalating over and over again. I was looking
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: back through I didn't I didn't make a single overboard
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: moment note on this one.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Ah me either, My hidden treasure is a little bit different.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: It was more me thinking on it. It was like,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: this is uh one oh one blackmail? Right?
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Is this a course that they teach people? Is there
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: more into this?
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I felt like somebody's backing him because it's the same
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: thing that happened when Epstein went to court. Right, They're like, oh,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: here's a little misdemeanor. You're gonna be all right, Like
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: it's we're just gonna do something. So people feel like
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: we threw the book at you, right, but you're gonna
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: get off with a slap on the wrist.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, is there more to this? Is this
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: something that should be looked into more?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Is this an organization that is teaching people how to blackmail,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: showing people what you can do?
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  Speaker 5: Is there high.
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  Speaker 4: Profile people that may have been involved with this that
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  Speaker 4: we're not that were not brought to light. Is there
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  Speaker 4: actors that got paid fifteen hundred dollars that are big
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  Speaker 4: actors now that are in this.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: So we don't know everybody that's involved in it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: The characters that have stepped forward we know about, but
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  Speaker 4: there could be big UFC fighters, There could be big
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  Speaker 4: actors that have went through this. And is this what
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  Speaker 4: was held over their head, right, like, hey man, we'll
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  Speaker 4: throw the tickling video out over you or is there
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  Speaker 4: also worse videos? So my hit him treasure? Is it
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  Speaker 4: got me thinking? Right? Is this like an epstein ish
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  Speaker 4: or blackmail ish from the government CIA one O one,
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  Speaker 4: But that's just my tinfoil hat being worn.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: It's that time sink or swim man.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: This one's got it all. Really. It uncovers a wild
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  Speaker 1: story that keeps taking twists and turns. You get a
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  Speaker 1: sense of completion, like from start to end, like you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: actually find out the mystery. They solve the mystery, you
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  Speaker 1: find out who the murder was, like all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: ever thought about tickling competitions, but if ever comes up,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I'll have a very specific opinion on it now. So
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of changed my worldview a little bit.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: And I one hundred percent agree with you that this
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: feels like the thing that got discovered and it's like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: oh man, that one weird guy that made all those
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  Speaker 1: tickling videos and his two friends and that was it,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and whole thing's wrapped up now like that that'll never
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: happen again, like that they probably have a warehouse full
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: of things worse than tickling tapes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: But it goes to like directly to macade, sink or swim.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I gotta give it a swim.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: For me.
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  Speaker 5: I think this film.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: When I started watching it, I was watching with my girlfriend,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: as I was telling you earlier, and she was like, WHOA,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: what are you watching? There's a man on top of
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: another man? Ticlarly, I'm like, it's documentary. I gotta watch
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: this for the show man, like get out of here.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: It works.
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  Speaker 4: It work, so it gives you this feel of what's
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: gonna be and You're and I'm thinking, like, oh, this
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: is our pride month. This is gonna be pretty raunchy,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: and it does have its bad parts, but for the
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: most part, it unwinds this web on weaves a web
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: of destruction. And I never expected to really like this
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: film as much as I did, coming in blind thinking
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: that it's gonna be this fetish about fetishes, because even
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: when you read the synopsis of it, it's like, basically
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: they're following these fetish tickling films. So I'm I'm getting
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: involved in that, and then I'm really getting involved in blackmail, extortion,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: uh so much juicy details. It's almost like a true
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: crime mixed with gainess. So I'm gonna give it a
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: swim all the way. And if you were tickled, you
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: could get go to Paranoid American dot com and get
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: you comic man right there could be you know, frizz
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: frazzle drip kind of on that same tickle lane.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: And we also have Never a Straight Answer, which is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like a comedy series about Stanley Kubrick directing the moon
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Landings that will make you laugh. No gay stuff required,
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