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Dodgers dealing Teo? Rays ink Cedric Mullins, Kyle Tucker’s Blue Jays trip, Emilio Pagán back with Reds · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Not many more sleeps until at Tea takes over Orlando,
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  Speaker 1: which I guess we kind of do all the time.
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  Speaker 1: But AJ, are you extra excited that the Winter Meetings
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  Speaker 1: are in Orlando? I mean, you're I would say, one
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  Speaker 1: of the most like prideful Florida Orlando people out there
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  Speaker 1: and everybody gets to see our great city.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, it's not your city, Scott, because you're
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  Speaker 2: never here, So let's you know, let's get.
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  Speaker 3: Rid of those let's get rid of those tax breaks
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 2: You're the second of all, am I excited absolutely because
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  Speaker 2: last time it got canceled because of something called COVID,
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  Speaker 2: So Orlando has had a long break in between Winter meetings,
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  Speaker 2: and they should be here like every third year. I
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  Speaker 2: think they should go here San Diego.
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  Speaker 3: In Nashville or Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: They can pick the other one, but it should that way.
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  Speaker 2: It's one side of the country nice weather, the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the country and nice weather, and then a
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  Speaker 2: fun place to go, whether it's your bachelorette party for you, Scott,
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  Speaker 2: or whether it's like to gamble for other people. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the way they should do it, but
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  Speaker 2: they don't.
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  Speaker 1: Are you accusing me of crashing other people's bachelorette parties.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, if you'd like to go to
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  Speaker 2: bachelorett parties, Nashville's your spot.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, and I will say I agree on the
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  Speaker 1: warm weather front. I would prefer winter meetings to be
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  Speaker 1: in warm weather locations. No offence to Maryland, but a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a fence to Maryland because sometimes it's
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  Speaker 1: the winter meetings in December. Could have snow there, although
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  Speaker 1: most people don't leave the hotel. Crats your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: I went to a baseball convention I think it was
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  Speaker 4: the abca's or something in Chicago in like January. That
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  Speaker 4: was awful that I was watching the lake freeze as
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  Speaker 4: the like. We had this suite overlooking the lake. So yes,
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  Speaker 4: warm weather every winter meeting, even if it's in December.
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  Speaker 4: Probably not getting snow in Maryland in December. But you
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  Speaker 4: don't need no, no, stay warm. That's the that's the
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  Speaker 4: one redeeming value of Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Stay down there. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and we get AJ and I guess me on occasion.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's charge.
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  Speaker 3: Charge about AJ.
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  Speaker 1: What do you have on Cedric Mullins to the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Rays? You know. I was looking at the Rays outfield.
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  Speaker 1: He was not very productive last year, although Mullins wasn't
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  Speaker 1: either in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: No, once Smallens got traded, he was. He was the ECHI.
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  Speaker 2: They benched him at one point in the Mets when
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  Speaker 2: he went there. So yeah, I like this.
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  Speaker 3: I like this.
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  Speaker 2: This is a high upside for the Rays. They can
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  Speaker 2: do something. They'll probably platune them, bounce them around a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. But yeah, this is a good deal. This
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  Speaker 2: is kind of what the Rays do. They try to
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  Speaker 2: find guys that are bounced back candidates, guys on the fringes.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone says, oh, eventually the Rays are going to sign
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  Speaker 2: a big guy. Well, yeah, they always try, but they
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  Speaker 2: never get it done. So this is a good deal
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  Speaker 2: for Cedric. This is a good way for him to
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  Speaker 2: have a bounce back here, and it's a good deal
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  Speaker 2: for the Rays. They can play Uhim in the centerfield
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  Speaker 2: against right hand and pitching, and then we all know
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  Speaker 2: the Rays get creative with their lineup. So I like
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  Speaker 2: this deal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to put someone on blast who we're friends with,
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  Speaker 1: Kratz real quick before you comment to and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for the podcast crowd, that's just listening. It's one year,
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  Speaker 1: seven million bucks. Sometimes we reference Mike Petriello's tweets and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. Right, there's a few like analytics people
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  Speaker 1: where we'll point out a lot of things that we like.
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  Speaker 1: He did comment I'm surprised, something along the lines of
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  Speaker 1: he was surprised that he got a major league contract.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa a major league contract? Cedric
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  Speaker 1: mom has been a really good play. We're gonna we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna completely ding him for what three four bad months
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  Speaker 1: in his platform year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is he getting up there in age thirty?
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  Speaker 4: He to me still has he still has time left.
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  Speaker 4: And it shows in the fact that he was a
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  Speaker 4: little bit below average as far as hitting he was,
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a ninety four ohps plus. Could that
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  Speaker 4: bump back up to an average an average? Could he
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  Speaker 4: get back to one hundred ops plus? Could it be
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  Speaker 4: a little bit higher? Yes, But to me, he's still
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  Speaker 4: stealing bags when you're not on I think he hit
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  Speaker 4: two fifteen for the season, and when you're not on
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  Speaker 4: base a lot, but you still score, you still steal
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  Speaker 4: twenty two bags. Like there's value there, Like to not
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  Speaker 4: get a big league contract, I have a tough time.
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  Speaker 4: I have a tough time with that with that comment.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're talking about a guy who's gonna
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  Speaker 4: still be able to play a really good center field
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  Speaker 4: and you said it. You said it really well, Scott.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that they mix and match their lineups, maybe
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  Speaker 4: there's some guys that he doesn't have as much success against.
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  Speaker 4: Are they looking for him to be an everyday center fielder. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he might be able to play one hundred and fifty games,
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  Speaker 4: but if they get one hundred and thirty solid games
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  Speaker 4: out of them, because they can sit him against a guy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, tough lefty lefty matchup. They can sit him
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  Speaker 4: against a guy that you know, throws more splitters, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what he struggled with. I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I think they can still find a lot of value
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  Speaker 4: in centric molds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Aj for me, as bad as he was down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch for the Mets. If you look at his
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  Speaker 1: season totals in terms of hitting ops plus league average
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  Speaker 1: one hundred, he was at ninety four. Year before that,
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  Speaker 1: one oh four year before that, one oh one year
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  Speaker 1: before that one oh seven. The outlier year was twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, where he was ninth place al MVP. He
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  Speaker 1: was an All Star, Okay, so that was your outlier
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  Speaker 1: standout year. Since then, it's been very consistently a league
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  Speaker 1: average bat and an elite outfielder, an elite center fielder, right,
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  Speaker 1: And the metrics have varied a little bit, but he's
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  Speaker 1: almost always in top end percentile withouts above average, more
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  Speaker 1: of an average arm. And then also just watch him.
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  Speaker 1: He's a super athlete. He makes incredible plays. So I
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  Speaker 1: think you're getting an exceptional defender and someone who probably
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  Speaker 1: you hope really is just league average because there aren't
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  Speaker 1: many center fielders that do it all anymore, just like
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  Speaker 1: we have that problem with catchers.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed, And that's why I said I like this deal.
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  Speaker 2: And he's he's been a league averager above most of
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  Speaker 2: his career. So listen, first time switching teams, going from
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  Speaker 2: the Orioles to the Mets last year, probably some different things.
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  Speaker 2: How many people have wed say hey, I can't deal
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  Speaker 2: with having to switch teams, and how hard it is,
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  Speaker 2: especially for position players because you know, it's a new
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff, it's a new this, it's a new that,
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  Speaker 2: and it's an everyday thing. So it's hard for me.
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  Speaker 2: To look at Cedric Mullens and say which one is he.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's closer to what he was the first
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  Speaker 2: half with the Orioles than what he was with the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: So again, I love this signing. They'll put him in
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  Speaker 2: good positions to succeed, and he'll be in a division
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  Speaker 2: that he knows in the Al East. He's been there
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  Speaker 2: his whole career except for the last two months of
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  Speaker 2: last year. I like this deal for the Rais. This
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  Speaker 2: is the raise what the Rays.
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  Speaker 4: Do, and maybe it signifies that they are going to
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  Speaker 4: get rid of Josh low Like I'm sorry Brandon Lowe,
• 6:46
  Speaker 4: I said, meant to say Josh Lowe, but Brandon law
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  Speaker 4: because to me, I would think Brandon Loow's that leader
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  Speaker 4: in that clubhouse now with Keir Meyer gone, Yandi's not
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  Speaker 4: very voisterous, so guy with the most service time. You
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  Speaker 4: bring in a veteran that can be that leader, not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily that like, oh we need you to be if
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  Speaker 4: if Brandon sticks around, but he has those chops that
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  Speaker 4: he that he learned in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's back in the Al East. And do you
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  Speaker 1: know who else was hot after Cedric Mullins. I think
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: you guys will get a little chuckle. Although you probably
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  Speaker 1: read it somewhere the team that was really going after
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  Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins Marlins, the Twins, not the Minnesota No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: not the Minnesota Twins. Hold on, I wanted to clarify
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  Speaker 1: the Twins of the Rays, which are the Marlins?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Aj?
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  Speaker 1: Aren't the Marlins just trying to do everything that the
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  Speaker 1: Rays do to a t?
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  Speaker 2: But know what Peter Bendix wants to do down there?
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  Speaker 2: I mean he wants he wants to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And hey, listen, every team tries to be the Rays
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  Speaker 2: in some way, and the Rays of outraid everybody else
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  Speaker 2: so far, So I think I think, yeah, they listen,
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  Speaker 2: they were both interested in him. They have something on
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  Speaker 2: him that they like. They've both seen him a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Peter Bendix and and the Rays of both seen
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  Speaker 2: Cedric Mullens a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 1: For the Rays, yeah, I mean, it wasn't a good
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  Speaker 1: year last year. They do have solid pitching position player wise, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the lineup doesn't look great. It looks okay, Aja, where
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  Speaker 1: are we at with the Rays right now? Because the
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  Speaker 1: al least seems like it's starting to take off again
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how many competitive teams there are, right,
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  Speaker 1: often it's like there's one or two that you're really
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  Speaker 1: dialed in on. It seems like we're at three or four.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering where the Rays are at.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Yankees. Are they better than Yankees?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: Are they better than the Red Sox? No?
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  Speaker 2: Are they better than the Blue Jays who just almost
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  Speaker 2: won the World Series or about this far from winning
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  Speaker 2: the World Series? No? I don't think so, especially with
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  Speaker 2: cease and some of the other most ponts and some
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  Speaker 2: of the other things they're gonna do. Are they better
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  Speaker 2: than the Orioles. We'll see when Michael Ollas gets done.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they are right now. So right now
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  Speaker 2: they're in fifth place in this division. They got to
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  Speaker 2: make some moves.
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  Speaker 3: This help. Is it the end all be all?
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  Speaker 2: No, but it's a nice first baby step back trying
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  Speaker 2: to get into contention, because say what you want about
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  Speaker 2: the Rays, they need help. And this is a this
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  Speaker 2: is a this is a nice piece, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: a great I mean, it's not a piece of You're like,
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  Speaker 2: oh wow, that changes the division.
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  Speaker 1: No, And it tells me, I mean, the Rays are
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  Speaker 1: never gonna do the big game shopping, though. Maybe things
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  Speaker 1: change once the owner gets his feet settled in and
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  Speaker 1: once they get the ballpark situation figured out. But it
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: seems like they're kind of done with their outfield signings.
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  Speaker 1: They might make trades, but they added Jake Frayley for
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: a year and three million bucks. They added Cedric Mullins.
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  Speaker 1: They just spent ten million dollars on boosting their outfields.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see. I'm sure they'll be active in the
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  Speaker 1: trade market. They almost always are. Show me the money,
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it all right, So we
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: will get to Miguel Rojas getting some money from the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers for his final season. But before that, I mean,
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: we got to start with the headliner this morning in
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: regards to this team, the back to back champs.
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  Speaker 3: AJ.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: I know you didn't read the column, but you probably
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: saw the headline. Teoscar Hernandez could be on the trade block,
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal putting out a story here that his name
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: is coming up in trade conversations and he certainly is
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: not a good defender, and they're trying to figure out
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: what the future looks like. We talked a lot about
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: this unfair territory. So if you want to click that
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: later on you can go for it. I added to
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  Speaker 1: the theory here AJ Dodgers have watched Teo struggle in
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  Speaker 1: the outfield. They love the bat, or at least you
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: really like the bat. I think that he needs to
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: be getting significant DH time at this point in his career.
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  Speaker 1: With the way that he plays defense in the outfield.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do that in LA, So it seems like
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: the best fit for him could be somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, except they really like him
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  Speaker 2: as a guy too, Like say, you've talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they really like him as a guy. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he needs to almost be a saw his defense come
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: into play a few times in the postseason and almost
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  Speaker 2: cost the Dodgers some games. So would they be able
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: to find somebody better? Would just open it up for
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: what everyone is saying would be a Kyle Tucker move
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  Speaker 2: to Rayfield. I don't know, but if they can move him,
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  Speaker 2: then it brings in other options they can do. Teams
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  Speaker 2: would take them, but would they take him as a
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  Speaker 2: DH and would Tayo want to do that? I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but yes, I agree Scott, he's probably better off suited
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  Speaker 2: right now as a DH and the man can still hit.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: So let's not forget the man can still hit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Tao.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say he's better. I think he's better
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  Speaker 4: suited as a left fielder. I don't think his days
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  Speaker 4: in the outfield are done. In my opinion, I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I saw the same drop fly balls. I saw you know,
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  Speaker 4: some mis routes that game in Colorado where he didn't
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  Speaker 4: call him off. Yes, I get that, But I don't
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  Speaker 4: see the Dodgers giving him three years sixty six million.
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  Speaker 4: I know there's some team investing options at the end
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  Speaker 4: of that, but I don't see them doing that last
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: year thinking I hope we can slide by or he
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  Speaker 4: regressed so much. I don't think they're that far off
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  Speaker 4: of it. Now what Aj alluded to. If they're in
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: the Tucker sweep stakes, yes, I could see them packaging
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  Speaker 4: him with a prospect, you know, getting you know, because
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  Speaker 4: at DH, I don't think he's giving a team enough
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  Speaker 4: value to say, yeah, we'll take on the twenty two
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  Speaker 4: million a year, We'll take on the forty four million
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  Speaker 4: that's left because you know, he didn't he had a
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  Speaker 4: down offensive year. Could he have a big bounce back year? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I still think it's in there, and he's an amazing dude.
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  Speaker 4: I just think his shift to left field would be
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  Speaker 4: more beneficial for the Dodgers' long term because there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of dudes that just kept the ball in front
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  Speaker 4: in left field. I'm not saying it's ideal. I'm saying
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  Speaker 4: he gives you enough and your DH spot is locked
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  Speaker 4: up forever. So oh, I don't see that. I don't
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  Speaker 4: see him getting moved yet.
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  Speaker 1: All right, twelve million bucks in twenty twenty six, fourteen
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  Speaker 1: and a half million bucks in twenty twenty seven, eight
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  Speaker 1: mil deferred each season, and then there's either a buy
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  Speaker 1: out of six and a half mil or fifteen mil
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  Speaker 1: club option for twenty twenty eight. So there's still some
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  Speaker 1: significant money. Not crazy money though. And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: This particular market is lacking bats like Taoscar Hernandez. It
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  Speaker 1: is no tell me how many bats are like him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you what somebody is gonna pay for what
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  Speaker 4: he did. Like, just think about his platform, yere and
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: what he got in free agency. Now, think about this
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  Speaker 4: past season as his platform here. Look at his numbers
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  Speaker 4: and tell me what a team is going to give
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: For that, you're saying they're not going to get a
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  Speaker 1: lot for him.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see it right. I don't see a team.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, hold up, hold up, hold up, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know a j Do you think the Dodgers are floating
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  Speaker 1: this out to try and get a significant haul or
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  Speaker 1: because they're trying to make the pieces fit.
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  Speaker 2: Better and they also can clear some money to maybe
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: try and go get somebody else, which the Dodgers, say
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  Speaker 2: what you want. I don't think it has anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with the prospect hall they can get. They could
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  Speaker 2: get Airkrats and aj Perzinski for Tayo. Hernandoze would probably
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  Speaker 2: do it right now, just to get the money off
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  Speaker 2: the books and make it fit the pieces better. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's about a prospect hall or not.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's about, hey, does somebody want to
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: take him off our hands? He's still a pretty good player.
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  Speaker 2: We like him, and then we can make maybe our
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: team better with another player they can bring in for two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, Krats right handed hitting power, can play
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  Speaker 1: some outfield, I mean for me right now, like.
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  Speaker 2: And he gets big hits. He's always been better, all right?
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Our runners in the scoring position and big moments, he
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: seems like he steps his game a big time.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Remember when we when we talked about the Grayson Rodriguez
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: trade and they pick up Taylor Ward, And part of
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: the write up there from kenon others was how there
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: aren't many bats even like that, and this is a
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: better bat in Tao. It's a worse glove. But I
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: do think there aren't a ton of those out there
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  Speaker 1: on the market right now. I mean, it's sure, is
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  Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo that guy? Yeah, but that's a different position
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna cost you significantly more money, and Tao
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: might be able to give you somewhat similar production there.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying to kras it's weird,
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel as if Tao is such a Dodger
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: and he's so mixed in with that whole group and
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the roster fits just weird. He's thirty three years old, Like,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: do you really want him manning the outfield full time?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: He's never going to DH for them, never.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Is.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: But who I mean right now, Taylor Ward, they sold
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: him high, so they got they they're convinced, or the
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Oriels are convinced they're getting a guy who's going to
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: hit thirty six home runs again, who's going to hit
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: You know, he had a better year than Tayo at
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: the plate. He had a better year than tayl Is
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: he a better hitter than him? I think they both
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: strike out a lot. I think they both can be
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: super streaky, and when they're on their streaks, there's not
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of contact going on. But I think Taylor
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I in my opinion, obviously if they go and get
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker type. And I don't think the Dodgers are
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: looking to get rid of money either though. To me,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I think Taylor left field is better than what they
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: tried to pay. They tried to pay Conforto eighteen or
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: twenty million last year to play left field. It didn't work.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: You can pay Tayo whatever you have to pay him.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of deferred and all that stuff,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: So I don't know how much is actually getting paid
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: for this season on the books to play left field
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: for you. And you still keep a guy who you
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: just signed to a three year contract and I don't
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: think he's that awful in the outfield. I think you
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: have to rein it in. He plays super deep that's
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: why he's not getting to balls that fans think he
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: should get to. That's why he's running in a hall
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: on his heels, and he drops that ball in the
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: playoffs like he gets a lot of flak for it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: But you also got to remember who was playing right
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: field before their goal glove shortstop was winning a goal
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: glove in right field. So I just I think it's
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: a little I think they're a little jaded saying, well,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: we need an upgrade in right field. Yes, but I
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: don't think that means Taoscar Hernandez needs to leave the Dodgers.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I think he just needs a shift to left field.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, So you're good playing him every day on the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Dodgers in the outfield, okay, because that's the only option,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: right if you think that's he's thirty three. If it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: gets if it gets worse, though, he's he's at the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: bottom right now. Right, So for right field, I don't
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: have the left field numbers, and obviously him play leftield,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: but right field last year thirty third out of thirty
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: six players, and now it's above average on minus nine
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: right So there's there's not much room after that, Like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it starts to become a liability, and for me, eye
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: test wise, it's burned in my brain. There are certain
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: memories of moments where you're like, damn, that could have
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: gone side ways and cost them a lot.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, but it's burning your brain that Aaron Judge dropped
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: that fly ball in the World Series Aaron Judge and error.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I watch Judge every day.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: That's so different. That's that is one brutal play at
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the worst time. But for me, there's a lot of those.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're watching him consistently, like, there are
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of brain fart plays and as it is
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like you have those. Plus the floor is low. The
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: floor for Judge is super high, right, Like you're getting
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: good plays, you're getting good coverage out there. For him,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the floor is low, and then you get the botched place.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm being critical here. I love the guy,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I love the bat, but for the I just think
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that he should be in more of the Jordon Alvarez mix. Right,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Jordon when he's healthy was one third outfield ish from
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: what I remember, and then two thirds d H. And
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I think Tao's good enough to do that. And I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: think aj I think, well, if Kratz you want to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: buy back first. He'll be a better hitter if he's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: able to do that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I just think I think there's still value there because
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: and this is this is just a complete just outsider
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: looking in. The Dodgers knew they never had any d
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: H spots for Tayo, and they still did this contract.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: It wasn't because wow, man, you know, we're coming off
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the high of the World Series and he did so
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: good this year. They evaluate evaluated what they had, and
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I just don't believe in the one year regression, the
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you know, the fact that now we got to get
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: rid of him. I think the Dodgers looked ahead and
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: planned ahead enough that they don't have to get rid
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: of him in this season.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Well, you better get rid of him now because if
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: it goes another season, you're definitely not going to be
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: able to get rid of him.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: So strike now, bounce back. Okay, not defensively, Yeah, not defensively.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That's not the thing that the Dodgers need him to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: be better defensively. We're not talking offensively. We're talking defensively.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: They're not bringing back Michael CONFORDO. Okay, No, it brought
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: bout Mickey Rowe for his utility in the fact, plus
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: have a healthy Edmond, they think they can play the outfield.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: They still right, They'll find some guys they and they're
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: gonna go out and get somebody whoever that is. They're
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: gonna go get somebody to help them in the outfield.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And if they have to trade Tao, I would do
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: it now. I wouldn't wait another year because his defense,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: as you get older usually doesn't get better. It usually
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: slowly goes the other way, and his pretty quickly.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: And they're better with Pie Hayeson right, true, better with
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Pie Hayesen right and Edmund and center.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Now Edmund in the I would put Edmond in the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: infield and trade for Buxton or somebody like that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't roto world. We're not. We're not.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: We're not just getting everybody that you want. I know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: it's a Dodge.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I thought the Dodgers get whoever they want.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: No, they pay for everybody. Thinks they pay for everybody.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Reality also, by the way, I understand, but all I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I I traded a player and I acquired a player.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't do that much. And it's not like I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: spent a billion bucks doing it. I traded for a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: player who's on the block. I trade a player who
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is now reportedly on the block and made a quick change.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: That's just one of many, But I'm just using an
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: example of how you can significantly improve your defense. If
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you're the Dodgers, you're still looking to get better. You
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: won the World Series back to back years, but this
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: past season, you look, you didn't blow the competition away.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Where are my flaws? That's what a team does, That's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: what a good team does. They say, where are my flaws?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So most of the guys they're not going anywhere. They're
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: on long term contracts. They're an older team position player wise,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: which is fine, but they're the oldest position player team.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: So just wrong it out there.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: That's all.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It was Ken's report. If you want to bother Ken
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: at the Winter Meetings, like AJ, well then you certainly
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: can try and tap into him.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Then I wasn't invited, so I can't. I can't come
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: to the Winter meetings, but maybe.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, neither was Jared Krabas, which we'll get to later,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So you and Jared can talk later. We'll get into
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that anyway. No Miguel Ross, just real quick, AJ last
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: season feel good story it's cool that the Dodgers bring
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: him back. You can play a number of positions one year,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: five and a half million bucks, biggest swing of the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: year for the ball club this past season. And then
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: look at the bottom note from Fabian, who covers the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: team for the Athletic. Rojas is expected to assist the Dodgers'
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: front office in player development once his team, once his
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: time as a player is done.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Wait, but I thought he was a bad guy who
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: bullied people and did all these bad things to young
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: players when he was in Miami. Wait what, Oh, that's
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that's hasn't gone very well since that story came out.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about that another time. Everybody
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I have ever talked to says Miguel Rojas is one
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: of the greatest people they've ever played with.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: So anyways, but this is awesome. Good for him. He
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: had a huge home run.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And by the way, when kras says that the Dodgers
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: didn't fall in love with Tao because of the year before,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: absolutely they did. And that's one of the reasons. He
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: also allegedly took more less money to come back to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, if you remember, because remember his agents said
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: he was going to get offered more next they signed
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Mickey Rowe. You know who's going to be back next, Hey,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: k k Colin, Key, Paige and Kik You'll be next,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: so listen. I love this move form both sides. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: love the Dodgers. I love the fact that the Dodgers
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: will saying, you know what, Maggie, we like you so much.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: We want you to help us in the future of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the organization.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: This is awesome. This is what you like to see.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: If you ever question what type of person somebody is,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: you can look at Miggi Roe's numbers and everything on
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the field. If you're a question what type of person
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: somebody is, they get offered a job in the organization
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: to help the future of the org. That is what
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: they think of that guy, because they know how he
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: goes about his work, how he because minor league development
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: is all about how you treat the people that are
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: coming up. So if there was ever a question, which
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: I don't think there is, except for one person says
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: there's a question about him, then.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, miggi row. Good for him.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: He gets to finish his career in LA. He loved
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: his time three peatd.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to do and finish his career
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. All right, let's get to a couple
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: other things here quick. In Ken's notes column, he said
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the tattooya am I, he kind of went over how
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the comments that he made on the dice K podcast
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: or whatever definitely hold merit, but he still would play
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: with Japanese players. So he brought up, for example, the Cubs. Right,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: so if the Cubs end up winning the bid for him,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they've got, say, as Suzuki, They've got showed to Imanaga
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: because he said like, hey, I can do this on
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: my own, like he can, and he's confident. But I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: think it more just speaks to a guy who's definitely
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: down to do a big market team. And B, which,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of course, why is he going to roll that ou
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and B it doesn't have to be the Dodgers. AJ's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: shaking his head, why because the Cubs aren't going to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: pay for him.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Because his agent said, dude, shut your mouth and you
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: want of you won every team involved in your bidding.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: That's what happened. His agent was like, why would you
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: say that. It's like when number one Vlad.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Number one Vlad was like, I won't play for the Yankees,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and then it got one year and he's like, oh wait,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I will actually play for the Yankees because his agent
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, dude, you need the Yankees in on
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: this bidding, so let's get this much money as you can.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And I mean he probably feels the same way when
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: he go to LA. Of course he go to LA
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: if they're the highest bidder, but he'll go wherever is
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the highest bidder. Let's let's stop with this. There was
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: one guy that I've seen so far in a long
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: time that hasn't come over and taken the most money,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and that was Show Hey, because he wanted to be
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: in LA. Other than that, they they've they pretty much
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: have all taken the most money and that's their right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Good for them, go get the most money.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy clearly can play anywhere. That's more of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: what it's like. The difference I'll say is, I mean,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I know it was a different situation because the money
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: didn't really matter for rookie Sasaki since everyone could offer
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: about the same range. I mean, everyone felt like he
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was going to go to the Dodgers. Tatsuvia my is
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: down for whatever bidder is interested. And I think a
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: lot of people thought, Oh, the Giants are probably gonna
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: spend they need a starter. They're pretty far under the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: luxury tax number. Oh wait, they are not interested in him.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: They're not going to play in those waters. Okay, yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: he's interested in a bunch of different teams. He doesn't
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: just have to take down the Dodgers. He can face
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers in the World Series with the Yankees, or
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: he could face them in the Ces with the Cubs.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So the one thing we did know for sure is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that it sounds like his name is not going to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: surface during the Winter Meetings for a signing. That would
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: be a surprise. He's planning on doing the little tour
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: visiting teams, and to me, that was the biggest news
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: out of this notes column because you don't know until
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you find out what the itinerary is. It sounds like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that will start after the Winter meetings. He has until
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: January second, so he's got time.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: But sometimes it happens during the time, calling Chris Getz,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: let's go, Chris get time, and.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: They get im. Just get this guy to sound with
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the White Sox. Let's go. He said, he's open to
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: plan anywhere.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Lall sudden they brought in a Japanese starts
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: outahitoa Gucci that won the World Series.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So let's go White Sox. Do we want to see him?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Do we want to see him at the just standard
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: standard places or do we want to see Tatsuyo my
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: go to a place that is kind of outside the box,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: because really, right now it's the standard Giants stink are
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: still in. You know, the hole we're not spending is
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: a posture. Giants, Dodgers, Mariners, Cubs, never the White Sox.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: And then you go down the East coast of teams like,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: do we want those eight standard teams that get the
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Japanese players or do we want somebody out outside the box?
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Do we want to see the Astros who need a
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: starting pitcher to get him?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not going to because Chandler Rome has
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: dialed in on their peril. You're just saying, would you
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like to see it?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It would be fun.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't have like a strong feeling of boy, yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I mean I think it's fun when when unexpected teams
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: get involved. I also don't think the Manners are playing
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: in those waters. They spent a lot of money on Naylor.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: They're trying to bring back where Hey Polanco, they've got
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: a good pitching staff. I don't think they're going to
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: play in those waters, you know, just because he's a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Japanese player, and they used to bring in more Japanese players.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I think they used to dominate the mark Leroy did,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It's Suzaki and then Jojo went over there. I mean
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: they used to dominate. That was their thing, like everybody.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That was when Nintendo owed them though, So Nintendo needs
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to get a switch three to be able to afford somebody's.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't own him anymore, exactly, all right, last
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: topic here in this segment. May Pagan signs up two
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: years twenty million bucks with the Cincinnati Reds. He was
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: their closer basically from week one last year. As soon
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: as Alexis Diaz fell apart. Aj Pagan took over the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: first week of the season and he ran with it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: He had a great year for Cincinnati. So if it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a good fit, you bring them back two years ten
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a year, you'll take that. He can opt out after
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: year one, depending on how things go, and maybe get
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: himself another year tacked on if it goes like it
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: did this past season.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Let's all forget this guy's had some health issues in
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the past. So he went out what he did for Cincinnati.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: They made the playoffs and he saved their year.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: If you talked to.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Anybody inside that Red's clubhouse and that Red's organization, Terry
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Francona on down, they'll tell you how important Amelio Pagan
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: was because he took that ninth getting over with his
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: veteran leadership and his stuff and the year he had.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I know earlier we had a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: buck on and say, you know, managers don't really influence
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: front office, but I guarantee you Terry frank ConA went
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to their GM and said, hey, man, like we need
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Amelio pa Gone back for numerous reasons, and he said yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Kurt said yes, sir, let's get this done.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And they did good for them.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I would say we go back to what AJ and
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Buff we're talking about. With Edwin dis a closer who
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: you know is going to lock the game down. Is
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: so important to a manager, so important to a team.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: And if the Reds do want to do what they
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I feel like they should have been doing the last
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: two or three years and make it to the playoffs
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: and make a run. They need a closer. I don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: think it's quite enough yet, but hey, you know what,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't think Amelia was going to do what he
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: did this year. So they have trust in him. Good
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: for them and good for him that they were able
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: to get together on a nice two year deal and
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have to go continue to go year to year.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pitched around a bit, a career high seventy
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: appearances this past season, a two eight eight e, thirty
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: two saves, and thirty eight chances. His strikeout percentage ranked
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: in the top eleven percent, So that's I mean, if
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: your top tien pertent, you're elite. I mean some could
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: say fifteen percent, so elite swing and miss like he
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: had it all from them and it worked and whatever.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: We think if you believe Kratz's conspiracy theory about the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: ballpark not playing the same way, either way, he got
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the job done. Because I was going to say in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the past, hey, he even pitched this well in that ballpark.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: It also helps to strike guys out in that ballpark
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: because then you don't have to worry about how the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: park's playing.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Just saying just saying, yeah, they're doing something. They're doing
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: something different there.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We'll bring back what's working because the preventing run side
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of things was working quite well for them this past season.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I said preventing runs just so I wouldn't make everyone cuke.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: All right, let's spread some rumors. Kyle Tucker made a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: little drive from Tampa over to Duneed in Florida, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he saw that spanking new or somewhat new, I guess
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: facility for the Blue Jays compared to most other spring
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: training facilities. They've got the ballpark that's been recently renovated
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and the one hundred mili plus renovation that they put
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: in over the years here at the complex. Remember show
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: hey o Tani went and visited there. Could Kyle Tucker
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: sign with the team that was one went away from
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: winning the World Series? And what would that make their
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: lineup look like if they don't bring Boba Schepp back.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Aj Or as Ken also mentioned today on Fair Territory,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Is it a little bit of posturing to say to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Boba Schett's camp, bring your price down or we will
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: go somewhere else.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: No. I think this is Kyle Tucker genuinely being interested
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in the team and he lives in Tampa, so it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: an easy drive for him. I don't know all this
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: posturing and all this stuff, but I think he lives
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: right there. He can drive across the bridge and be
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: there in about twenty five minutes, depending or sorry, the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: causeway not the bridge. I don't want to get yelled
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: at by Mike Poe, but I mean, this is an
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: easy drive form And if they're one of the teams
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: that are genuinely interested in them, of course they can
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: do this because they're the Blue Jays and they actually
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: have a lot more money than people give.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Him credit for.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And he would look nice playing for them. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: is he boba shit? I don't know, but he would
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: look really nice in that uniform. And that's ring training site.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I've been there many times.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It is really nice.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: We don't know a lot about Kyle Tucker, but we
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: do know he's quiet. Seems like he kind of wants
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to just go out play some baseball, and no better
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: place to go to get all that money that he's
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: going to get whatever three point fifty four twenty whatever
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: it is. And you don't even have to be the
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: number number one star. You don't have to be the
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: guy that they're They'll they'll ask me questions, Okay, yep,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I enjoy playing here. It's gonna be great to play here.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: And then they'll be like, Okay, Vladdie, what did you say?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: You know, Vladdie's the Vladdie's the face. And it would
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: be a prime spot for him to slide right in
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: there and just go and go and have his you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: one thirty to one fifty ops plus every single year
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: and contribute to a team that if they would make
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: this signing, the Blue Jays make this signing would easily
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: catapult them to the best team in the American League.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: On the day they make the signing without bow, without bow. Yes, yes,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I agree. I'm listen.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Every person that I know and I've talked to people
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I have said that the Toronto Clubhouse last year was
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the best clubhouse they've ever played in. And every guy
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that you you have talked to and guys whatever, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: they say, it's unbelievable. That's why Beaver wanted to go back.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: That's why everybody wanted to play there. So they have
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: figured something out in Toronto, and that means something. We
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: talk about la being a destination, but when players talk
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: and they say, how is Toronto?
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: How is Toronto?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: How is Toronto. Everyone's like, man, it's amazing, it's amazing,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: it's amazing. It's amazing. People listen and they're like, man,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I want to go pee. You part of something that's amazing.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: HM.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So I asked that previous question because I wanted to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: bring it to this. I would say, it's not likely
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: they signed Bo and Kyle Tucker. Which one would you
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: rather do? Which one are you rooting for? If you're
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a Blue Jays.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Fan, Wow, because you're essentially adding Santan Dare and Tucker
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: into that lineup, and you're subtracting Boba Schev, but you're
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: upgrading Bo's defense with Andre Semenez going over to shortstop.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: And I know Ernie Clement had a great year, would
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: have been the World Series MVP. There might be some
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: regression there, but I think Ernie Clement at second base
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: on an everyday basis, he's just going to continue to
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: to do what he does, doesn't just strike gaupus. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: to me, you're a better team with Kyle Tucker in
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: right field and not needing Santan Darren right and he
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: just man's.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: D H every day a J. What would you like
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: to do you have I agree with just I like
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: to sign them both. But if I don't, I'd rather
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: have Tucker.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have Tucker for me, just because they proved
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: that they could win with Bashett being out right and
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Timena slides in. Clement Barger can move to right field
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: or third base. Whenever you put Tucker and Wright, you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: have Springer, you have our show, you have all these guys,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Kirk Flattie. I mean, that's a pretty solid lineup you
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: can You can afford to have a guy like Andre
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Simenez who did hit huge home runs in the playoffs
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: but not be a huge offensive ft threat.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: It will play unbelievable defense. If you had Kyle.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Tucker, who also has had a goal glove in the past.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I have to definitely clarify and triple down on what
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: AJ just said. Andre Simenez is a goal can be
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: a goal glove shortstop. He is a platinum glove at
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: second base. This is not This is not like some
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: teams who have just been like, you know what, We're
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: gonna get this guy who was a third baseman and
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: we're gonna play him at shortstop. Because I think that's
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: what our metrics, says, Andre Simenez can play elite level
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: shortstop every single day in the big leagues. Like, don't
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: get it twisted with teams in the same division that
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: have said, you know what, we'll play.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: This guy at shortstop. That's that's what we'll do.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: There's a difference between and I say it all the time,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: big league starting shortstops and people who can play shortstop
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: in the big leagues.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Big difference.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll double down with you, Kratz. I mean,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Andre Semenez had some nice moments in the postseason, but
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he was one of the worst bats throughout this past season.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: His bat plays better at shortstop because he can handle
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the position well. Right, it's a matter of mixing and
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: matching correctly.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Aj.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: It's not like every team has a second baseman that's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: banging thirty homers or something, but andres.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Second basis the second base is usually a little bit
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: more offensive than shortstop. You usually want a little more
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: offense than you do at shortstop. You can live with
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: a less offensively inclined shortstop.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Usually usually you got to have one of the other.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Right, you have a really if you have a really
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: good defensive second shortstop, you want a good offensive second
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: basem right, I'll use the Astros as an example. Jose
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Al Twov plays second. He's an offensive second baseman. Jeremy
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Payna can do both, as we've seen, but he's a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: little more defensively inclined. He was, but now his offense
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: is caught up right. For years it was Payina in
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: al tuove right, look at I mean, look at the Dodgers.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers have Bookie, who's a goal could be a
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: goal glover, and a MVP of shortstop and then their
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: second base. Like we can live with Mickey Rohas because
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: he's a defensive stud. Right, So you can get away
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: with this, but you usually have to have one and
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: then the other one be the other thing.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Mhm.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I think right now, if I'm pressed with this, where
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: does Kyle Tucker sign? I think it's the Blue Jays.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Talk me into another team that makes sense. I think
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the Yankees are trying to bring back Bellinger. I don't
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: think they necessarily want to play in the Kyle Tucker
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: money game. Who else can pay top dollar like that?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I mean he's going to get at least in the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: three hundreds, it might touch four hundred plus. Who else
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: is playing in those waters. We've gotten reports which I
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: believe that the Giants aren't going to spend like crazy,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: like we can start knocking teams out. The Dodgers seem
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like they're more of a short term HIAV, which if
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm talking, I'm going for the longer guarantee and I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: think that's what he'll do help me out. Right, Like
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: we just took out the NL West. The other teams
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: in the West aren't doing that. Nobody in the NL
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Central is going to spend like that. Now we're onto
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the NL East. I don't think the Mets are going
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to go for another outfielder like that. I guess the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Phillis Kratz. Is that a dark horse candidate or just
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a candidate in general? And AJ's got one too.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: You got the Dodgers after they trade Tail.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're gonna Are the Dodgers going to give
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: him three hundred and fifty four hundred million plus bucks?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm just saying they're watch watch out, watch out.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: They're ruining baseball. Remember, don't forget sure with the Blue
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Jays by spending all this money, So you know, there's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams ruining baseball. I know because they
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: can't afford these players. They just happen to be able
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: to keep signing guys.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Except the Blue Jays probably made like two hundred million
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: dollars this postseason, and so now all of a sudden
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they can take their payroll from to forty to three
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: hundred plus easily. I gave a ton of respect to
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: them right now. They recognize, how, wow, we make so
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: much more money when we're good. Why don't we just
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like push in a little bit more like we did
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: this past season and things will happen. Wow, this really
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: worked out well for us, So I give them a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: ton of credit. They all you want as a fan
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: base is for your team to be competitive, and then
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: when you are, you reinvest in the team and keep
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: freaking pushing Krat's your thoughts on Phillies? Are other teams
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that I'm missing here?
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Well, the Blue Jays are playing chess when everyone else
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: is playing checkers. They're putting their advertisement on Japanese fighting rings,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, Like they're taking advantage of this time and
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: they should continue to take advantage of it. To me,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I think to where there's smoke, there's fire. The Phillies
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: almost traded for Tucker, so they did all their due diligence,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: So like, how much do we like this guy enough
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: to give up two years of Alec Baum last last offseason? Yeah,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: So I think I think the Phillies, if they don't
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: get Schwarber, I think this is how they pivot. So
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I think there's While you would never say Schwarber and
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Tucker's market are kind of intertwined, I think that is
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: a thing.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's a team that if you're if you're
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Tucker and the Philly say, now, sorry, we're not into it,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Like we're looking for a guy who's maybe more voice
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: stous leader type, and we're fine, we'll figure out Justin
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Crawford in the outfield or bring a Vader back that
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: kind of thing.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Then I'm like, oh, we.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Got to start drumming up some interest here, because if
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: it's only the Blue Jays, the blue Jays aren't overpaying.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And there's my point. It just it looks like a
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: team that makes sense in terms of the fit for them.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: And then if you're Kyle Tucker in his reps, you're like, Kyle,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I think you should drive over to Dunedin and make
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: best friends with the Blue Jays as either your premier
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: destination or at least a team to try and help.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: It up on the hooks.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: If you don't want to go there, at least keep
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: them on the hook and and make them at least
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: think about it, because it helps the negotiation if there's
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: another team out there.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: I asked Schneider. I asked Schneider if I could get
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: a tour of the Dunedin facility, and he said it's
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: only for big league free agents. I've said, technically, AJ
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: and I are big league free agents every single year.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: We are not retired yet.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: So there's that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I don't need it. I've already had it. I've had
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: My son played for the Blue Jay scout team. I've
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: been in that facility way more than I need to
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: in my life. It's awesome. It's awesome. It's an awesome.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Awesome pictures and videos next time.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my God doesn't play for them anymore in spring training,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: when I go over there, I'll ask if I can
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: take some photos.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Heyj what are you doing nothing? Nothing? Why? No, that's
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: good marketing.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: That's good marketing. We need more of that. Anyway, an
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: MGM futures while we're on the Blue Jays here plus
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: seven hundred to represent the American League in the World Series. AJ,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I'm interested.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I definitely tickles my fancy a little bit. I'm not
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: gonna lie after what we saw them do last year
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: and what they're already doing in this offseason. Plus seven hundred,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: throw one hundred down and win seven hundred. Throw the
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: money Scott and Crafts have down. I know, like ten
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: to twenty thousand. You get into big numbers there.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I don't hate this.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I really don't with Cees and Gosman and the rest
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: of that pitching staff and what else they're going to
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: keep doing. And then you throw in if they sign
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: oh man, if they sign Kyle Tucker after this, think
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: how much better you'll be feeling about yourself? Or if
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: they bring back bo Either way, I don't hate this
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: How are the Mets plus six hundred and the Blue
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Jays are plus seven hundred to represent their side? How
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: in what world are the numbers punching that out? I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: really don't understand it, And yeah, maybe I'm gonna eat
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: my words. It's not about that. It's just where we
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: sit right now when you look at both teams, you're like, who.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I mean these picks? If you're picking these picks, it's
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: about the value. Where you're finding value, We're not finding
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: any value. And plus six to one for the Mets
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: like we did yesterday, seven to one for the blue
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Jays gone, clearly gone are the days where the Blue
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Jays are in on people. Ooh, we can't get anybody
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: to go across the border. No now, they're words that
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: were just used by aj A destination. They figured things out.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Guys want to be their best club house. Plus seven hundred.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Locking it in, Thank you very much, thank you. All right.
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• 45:25
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• 45:28
  Speaker 1: than ever in my entire life. And yes, i am
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a Jets fan growing up, and I'm completely done. I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: don't want to watch or care about the Jets and
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I swore off them before the season even started. So
• 45:38
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• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I just I truly don't care. It's and people will say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, there's parody. The Jets have fucking sucked for
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• 46:02
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• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a fun fan experience, and I quit off of it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I've like slowly stopped and now I'm completely out. I
• 46:10
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• 46:12
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• 47:09
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• 47:12
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• 47:14
  Speaker 3: about Ron Washington?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: That's the wrong think. Isn't that the wrong tweet?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: The Giants? No, yeah, the Giants, not the Ace.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Hey, what did the tweets say?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I will say Bob's not perfect. He makes mistakes on Twitter.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I will say it.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Bob will to Bob tweeted it out this morning. He
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: was first to the news. He originally said a's and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: then he corrected himself. He was speeding to the Twitter machine.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: But it is Ron Washington finalizing a deal with the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Giants to be their major league infield coach. So he
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: was talking like Bob also said in the first tweet,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: like it could be one of the biggest signings in
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the off season. I'm like, and if we have Bob
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: on right now that Bob, I'm all for Wash.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I love him.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: It's a great addition. I'd rather have a MA I'd
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: rather have Kyle Tucker. I'd rather have Kyle Schwarber. Like
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Ron Washington's still going pretty far down the list when
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: it comes to acquisitions. I'm looking for player talent. But
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Wash is a legend. He helps teams. I think when
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: you talk to some people in Atlanta, they're like things
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: were never the same without Wash as part of the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: coaching staff. He just brings an energy. He's a lifer,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, who's that guy in your Areakrat's
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: probably Larry Boa. No, as part of the Phillies organization.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: He's always been around there where just I mean, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: know he's not like in the dugout right now, but
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: just a guy like that who's around the team and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: brings like the all out energy all the time, always
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: talking about the game. You're always excited to talk to them.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: It's a different energy.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: The not the head honcho, you know.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I think about like the Diamondbacks Dave McKay coaching first base,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: like everyone's like, whoa dude legend? You know, Yankees and
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Red Sox, Blue Jay's time it was it was Brian Butterfield.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: You talk about guys. Yes, they're not the they're not
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: the they're not the bride that the bride's maid on
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: the team. They're not the the manager or even the
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: bench coach. They're just that guy that's kind of that energy.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Guy in Wash has been a really good manager, and
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: for him to take this role, I think it's awesome
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: and I think it kind of doubles down on what
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I was saying before, like, Okay, we have good defenders,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: can they be better?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: And you have a manager who has some really great
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: characteristics and traits, but he hasn't managed before or coached
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: at all in the big leagues. Helps to have Wash
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: on your side, It really does. So props to Tony
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Vitello and his staff for hiring Ron Washington. What do
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you got on the way out?
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Well, I texted Schneider to see if I could get
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: a tour figure of Tucker's going to tour. Why can't
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I get a tour? I'll bring my I told him
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: I'll bring my Blue Jay's hat, but he said no,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: it's only for big league, big league free agents.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no Dunedin and no Orlando for your crats. But
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you do get to talk to us tomorrow too. Me,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you and Todd Father, we still love you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Are you up? Smor uh? Good?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: See you didn't get an invite and now you're rejecting
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: me on the way out. I have a good weekend.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Dude's a little long one, yes, sir,