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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Saturday,
- 0:05February twenty two, twenty twenty five. As a reminder, Radio
- 0:09I is a reading service intended for people who are
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- 0:17read printed materials. Your reader today is Mark Webster. Today's
- 0:23front page headlines from the Washington Post are six. First,
- 0:27Musks tactics leave senior US officials unnerved. Second, companies reframed
- 0:34DEI to put focus on quote leveling unquote. Third, a
- 0:39shaky audition for key role in Gaza. Four US attorney
- 0:45talked about targeting foes of Trump. Five at town halls,
- 0:50Doge is all the rage, and six joint chief staff
- 0:55other leaders fired in Pentagon Purge. Here's the first one.
- 1:02Musk Blitzkrieg is unnerving. Many of Trump's senior advisors. Officials
- 1:07have been blat sided by Dog's actions, but the President's
- 1:10strong support of the group means other advisors have limited options.
- 1:16Top Treasury officials have complained about disruption. The Secretary of
- 1:20State has pushed back on staff cuts inside the Education
- 1:25and Health and Human Services departments. Political appointees have been informed,
- 1:29not consulted about canceled grants and contracts, sometimes learning about
- 1:34decisions from the media. Elon Musk's aggressive tactics to reshape
- 1:40the federal government have irritated and blindsided many senior officials
- 1:45in the Trump administration, including those tasks with running cabinet
- 1:50departments being squeezed by his US DOGE service, According to
- 1:55interviews with more than thirty current and formal officials, and
- 2:00many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to
- 2:03discuss internal matters. Amid these bubbling tensions, White House Chief
- 2:08of Staff Susie Wilds personally asked Musk last week to
- 2:12better coordinate on Dog's sweeping actions. The broad goals of
- 2:18Musk's team at DOGE, which stands for the Department of
- 2:22Government Efficiency, are shared not just by President Donald Trump,
- 2:27but also by most of his senior advisors, who also
- 2:31want to shrink the government through unilateral cuts. And yet
- 2:35agency heads whom Trump chose are finding themselves caught off
- 2:39guard by Dog's actions and forced to reverse, mitigate, or
- 2:45answer for some of its most disruptive moves while working
- 2:49to win Senate confirmation to be Health and Human Services Secretary.
- 2:53For instance, Robert F. Kennedy Junior had to reassure GOP
- 2:58senators he would re EXAs and Doge driven cuts to
- 3:02the National Institute of Health. Lynda McMahon, Trump's nominee for
- 3:06Education Secretary, told senators that she too would investigate cuts
- 3:11at her department. Dog e s blitzkrieg across the federal
- 3:15government has sparked deep concerns among civil servants who have
- 3:19been targeted for layoffs and required to implement policies they
- 3:23see as unwise, if not illegal. But Trump's political appointees
- 3:28are quietly expressing unease with Musk as well. Quote. Basically
- 3:33every cabinet member is sick of him, but nobody feels
- 3:36like they're in a position to do anything about it.
- 3:39The quote, said one person who spoke on the condition
- 3:41of anonymity to describe private conversations with Seven with several
- 3:46incoming secretaries or their staff. Quote. People are afraid to
- 3:50cross him, even as he's wrecking ha havoc on their agencies.
- 3:56Close the quote. Trump, though, has made clear that he
- 4:00he supports Musk, and none of the tensions with other
- 4:03appointees seems significant enough to block Doge's work. In a
- 4:09joint interview, aired on Fox News on Tuesday, Trump lavish
- 4:14praised on the billionaire and said Musk was insuring his
- 4:17orders were not watered down by federal workers. One of
- 4:21Trump's few known complaints about Musk came after an Oval
- 4:24office session last week. Twitch Musk brought his toddler, who
- 4:28interrupted and gestured painfully, playfully while the men spoke with reporters.
- 4:32Two people familiar with the matter said, quote, when you
- 4:36sign these executive orders, a lot of them don't get done. Unquote.
- 4:39Trump said on Fox he said Musk would make sure
- 4:42they are implemented as intended. Quote some guy that maybe
- 4:46didn't do it all of a sudden, he's signing unquote.
- 4:50The seventy eight year old president and fifty three year
- 4:53old magnate have been seen together constantly since Trump's victory
- 4:58in November. Musk has interviewed cabinet picks, taken questions from
- 5:02reporters alongside the president, and even joined Trump's calls with
- 5:06world leaders, and he's made powerful allies in Stephen Miller,
- 5:11Trump's deputy chief of staff, and his wife, Katie Miller,
- 5:14who has worked on behalf of DOGE. In court filings,
- 5:19the White House has stated that Musk has no quote
- 5:21actual or formal unquote authority to make decisions and is
- 5:25not a DOGE employee in practice. However, doge's ability to
- 5:31act even without prior approval from cabinet secretaries illustrated how
- 5:35much power Musk has accrued. Quote. If you are a
- 5:39generic cabinet secretary, you might be looking at DOGE as
- 5:43limiting your ability to manage your agency or feel your
- 5:48look like a fool. If you say X and DGE
- 5:52does why you might find that annoying, and that's understandable,
- 5:56said Avik Roy, president of the Foundation for resar on
- 6:00Equal Opportunity, a think tank that promotes free markets. Quote,
- 6:05but Trump likes the fact that these cabinet heads don't
- 6:08have carte blanche to do whatever they want, and that
- 6:11must gives them another set of eyes at the agencies.
- 6:15That's what the president wants, and he's entitled to run
- 6:17the executive branch that way. Close the quote, but the
- 6:21extent of musk ability to execute sweeping changes without approval
- 6:24or input from department heads appears to be unprecedented and
- 6:29unsettling for the cabinet. Quote, why do you want to
- 6:33be a cabinet secretary. If you can't run your own
- 6:35agency and the President Elon Musk run your agency for you,
- 6:39that doesn't seem like a great job to me. It's
- 6:42very unusual. We've never seen anything like this. Close the quote.
- 6:46Said Doug holtz Eken, president of the American Action Forum,
- 6:50a right leaning think tank. Quote. These unquoted effort, uncoordinated efforts,
- 6:56have downsides. You have the secretaries and Doge at cross purposes,
- 7:01and that doesn't serve anyone well. Close the quote. A
- 7:04White House spokeman said there's no tension between Musk and
- 7:07other officials, and other Trump officials downplayed any disagreement. Quote.
- 7:12The entire Trump administration is aligned on delivering on President's
- 7:17Trump's agenda to streamline our bloated government and make it
- 7:21more efficiently, sir, the American people. Close the quote. Spokesman
- 7:26Cushed de Si said in a statement. Quote, DGE is
- 7:30working hand at hand with the White House and federal
- 7:33agencies to identify and slash waste, fraud, and abuse at
- 7:36lightning speed. Any unfounded rumors peddled by anonymous sources simply
- 7:42do not have any clue what's happening, or are actively
- 7:45working against the President's agenda and the will of the
- 7:49American people close the quote. Almost as soon as Treasury
- 7:52Secretary Scott Descent took office, the dog Team thrust his
- 7:56department into the spotlight. David A. Lebric, the most senior
- 8:00career official Treasury, had clashed with Doge allies who demanded
- 8:05access to sensitive payment systems that dispersed more than five
- 8:09trillion dollars annually so they could unilatterally terminate fourn Aid payments.
- 8:14Lebrick thought that was illegal and resigned just a few
- 8:17days after being sworn in Vascent. Bessant began to hear
- 8:22from peers about how valuable Lebrick was. In a call,
- 8:25Federal Reserve Board chair Jerome H. Powell, former Treasurer official himself,
- 8:31extolled Lebric as a valuable public service, two people said,
- 8:35although that was not the primary purpose of the conversation,
- 8:42several other former senior Treasury officials made similar points in
- 8:46separate calls with Bessant's deputies around the same time. Two
- 8:51other people said the incident touched off broad alarm among
- 8:54the Treasury civil staff, whom secretaries depend on to manage
- 8:58their agencies, and even among Republicans who had served in
- 9:01the department. The controversy around Doge's access to the payment
- 9:07network threatened to undercut the Treasury Secretary's credibility as well.
- 9:11Bessett told later told congressional Republicans that Musk team did
- 9:15not control the payment systems, and department officials said in
- 9:19a public statement that Dog EA staffers had quote read
- 9:23only unquote access and affidavid filed in federal court from
- 9:27a senior career Treasury staffer said twenty five year old
- 9:30Marco Ales had in fact been granted editing permissions that
- 9:35were later revoked. Top Treasury officials later expressed frustration to
- 9:40confidence that the matter weakened their standing with the department.
- 9:45Two people familiar with those comments said, quote the undermined
- 9:50him with the Treasury staff and made him look like
- 9:52he was not in control unquote, one former Trump administration
- 9:56official said on Bloomberg News on Thursday. Bessont compared Musk
- 10:01to star athlete Michael Jordan and Lionel Messi and praised
- 10:05Dog's work with Treasury, which Treasury has said publicly it
- 10:09is supporting. Quote he is focused and his energy level
- 10:13is unbelievable unquote. Besson said a Munk quote, he has
- 10:16gotten to where he has because everything is on the table.
- 10:20Close the quote. Besson is not the only Trump Cabinet
- 10:23secretary to have to manage fallout from musk aggressive approach.
- 10:28Other political appointees have been left in the dark about
- 10:32key initiatives in their own departments or forced to try
- 10:35to reverse Musk's maneuvers. During Secretary of State Marco Rubio's
- 10:40first official foreign trip, dog representatives in Washington presented a
- 10:44plan to eliminate almost all of usa ID, which Rubio
- 10:49was nominally running as acting administrator. The plan proposed cutting
- 10:54the ten thousand person agency to roughly two hundred and ninety,
- 10:58a staffing level so low that said it would be
- 11:00impossible to administer the tens of billions of dollars in
- 11:04foreign aid approved by Congress every year. Rubio and his aides,
- 11:09who during his trip to Central America vowed that foreign
- 11:14aid would continue, advocated for more USAID officials to keep
- 11:19their jobs, resulting in six hundred workers being deemed essential,
- 11:23roughly double what the Dog team originally proposed, But the
- 11:27Trump administration's aid freeze still left chaos across the agency.
- 11:32The world's largest provider of food assistance. In public, Rubio
- 11:37forcefully defended Musk and blamed USAID officials for quote insubordination
- 11:42unquote in doge's effort to audit the agency. But in
- 11:47more private settings with US officials, Rubio has acknowledged that
- 11:51it's much easier to smash things and put them back together,
- 11:55a point underscored by nonprofit groups that have struggled through
- 11:58the freeze to protect programs the Trump administration says it
- 12:03still supports, said current and former US officials, Rubio has
- 12:11acknowledged that it's much easier to smash I just read that.
- 12:15A spokeswoman for the State Department did not respond to
- 12:18request for comment. Quote. The Secretary is trying to make
- 12:22foreign aid work better, but much of the current DOGE
- 12:26actions inside and outside of Foggy Bottom are focused on
- 12:30ending it. Quote, said Matthew Bartlett, a political appointee at
- 12:36the State Department during Trump's first term. In the first
- 12:40days after Trump's inauguration, the offices on the seventh floor
- 12:43of the Education Department were mostly empty, waiting for senior
- 12:47political officials who require Senate confirmation to arrive, but at
- 12:51least one political appointee had found an office and started
- 12:55to settle in, said one person with knowledge of the situation.
- 12:58Then the dog team that arrived at the agency January
- 13:02thirty one abruptly commandeered that office. DOGE staffers refused to
- 13:07interact with others, declining even to return pleasantries or acknowledged greetings,
- 13:13and got into at least one altercation with a political appointee.
- 13:18This person says. The DOGE team also took possession of
- 13:22the large, windowed corner office meant for the agency's under secretary,
- 13:27dragging extra desk and chairs in the set up. A
- 13:30war room also set up white noise machines to prevent
- 13:34others from hearing their conversations. The dog team has made
- 13:38almost all of the decisions about what grants and contracts
- 13:41to cancel and which employees to put on leave without
- 13:45working or considering input from political appointees on site. People
- 13:50familiar with the situation said, in many cases, political appointees
- 13:54are hearing about cuts at the same time as the
- 13:57public is via DOGEO or us post on x, the
- 14:01social media network. The billionaire owned. The political appointees quote
- 14:06had a plan in place for how they wanted the
- 14:09first couple of weeks or months to go, and this
- 14:12is just derailing it, unquote, one person said. The person's members,
- 14:16this person said, did not realize that they would have
- 14:19to quote fight this battle unquote. Doge's decisions included putting
- 14:25employees on leave because of alleged ties to diversity, equity
- 14:29and inclusion initiatives, even if they all even if all
- 14:33they did was participate in a DEI program that had
- 14:36been endorsed by the first Trump administration. Doge also canceled
- 14:42contracts for functions mandated by law and killed others in
- 14:46which the agency had already paid out most of the money.
- 14:50Many contracts will need to be rebid, a time consuming,
- 14:53an avoidable process, People familiar with the situation said McMahon,
- 14:58who is still waiting Senate confirmation, has heard these complaints
- 15:01from political staff and has been frustrated by the situation.
- 15:05According to someone close to her, quote she's frustrated because
- 15:09she's going to have to come in and clean up
- 15:11a big mess unquote. This person said he expected McMahon
- 15:14will tell Doge to operate differently, saying she would probably explain, quote,
- 15:20make recommendations, and then I will decide you can no
- 15:23longer come in and cut and strike and delete. Close
- 15:25the quote. Ask for comment and Education Departments books Woman
- 15:30provided a statement from the agency's Chief of Staff, Rachel Oglesby,
- 15:35who said DOGE team members were a valuable part of
- 15:39the department's work. Quote we all serve at the pleasure
- 15:43of President Trump and are working to implement his agenda together.
- 15:47Close the quote, she said. Quote any report to the contrary.
- 15:52Any reports to the contrary are inaccurate, unnecessary, and unhelpful
- 15:57to accomplishing our shared goals. Close the quote. DGE also
- 16:02descended at the Department of Health and Human Services, where
- 16:05it embedded several agents in what it says is an
- 16:08effort to root out waste and fraud in the agency's
- 16:11nearly two trillion dollar budget. Musk team has repeatedly surprised
- 16:16political officials who weren't aware of Doge's plans or the
- 16:20extent of the group's plan cuts, and they have sometimes
- 16:24learned of actions only from news reports. Some Trump appointees
- 16:28were caught off guard by a Friday night announcement on
- 16:31February seven, driven by DOGE, that the National Institutes of
- 16:36Health would cut billions of dollars in payments to universities
- 16:40and research organizations, said two people familiar with the matter.
- 16:45That move also promoted complaints from GOP leaders worried about
- 16:49the impact on higher education and jobs in their states,
- 16:54leading Kennedy, who had not yet been confirmed as HHS Secretary,
- 16:58to assure GOP senators he would review the policy. The
- 17:02White House decline to comment on whether officials were briefed
- 17:07on Doge's specific actions, such as NIH funding cuts. Many
- 17:12of these complaints have found their way to the White House,
- 17:15but Trump has made clear his support for Doge limiting
- 17:19the options for constraining Musk's power. Last week, Wiles, the
- 17:23Chief of Staff, spoke privately with Musk near the East
- 17:27Room of the White House, Two people familiar with the
- 17:29exchange said, but Wiles did not reprimand Musk or give
- 17:33him a list of demands. She just asked for improved
- 17:36coordination between Doge and White House staff. Several people familiar
- 17:41with the conversation said some details of that talk were
- 17:44previously reported by Reuters. A White House official said that
- 17:49lines of communication between the two have already improved. Musk
- 17:53traveled with Trump during a leg of his trip to Florida,
- 17:56last weekend, and on the plane, Musk ran things by
- 18:00Wiles and didn't go into Trump's office without letting her know.
- 18:04Quote to be crystal clearer, Doge is by definition disruptive,
- 18:08so it's normal and expected for Whiles to have some
- 18:11back and forth with Musk as he goes along, unquote,
- 18:14said a senior administration official. The Democrats have long predicted
- 18:21a split between Musk and Trump, arguing that a falling
- 18:25out between such large personalities is inevitable. Even many of
- 18:29Trump's aides have wondered when or if the president will
- 18:34tire of sharing the spotlight with Musk, the richest person
- 18:37in the world. Quote. The conversation at mar A Lago
- 18:41in late December was already quote why is Doge getting
- 18:46all this attention and credit? Closed the quote, one person
- 18:49familiar with the dynamic said, but others emphasize the men's
- 18:53shared personal and ideological affinity. On Fox News, Trump referred
- 18:58to Musk as quote brilliant unquotquote and marveled at his
- 19:01quote tremendous imagination unquote. Musk was similarly complimentary of Trump.
- 19:06Quote not once have I seen him do something that
- 19:09was mean or cruel or or wrong, not once closed
- 19:12the quote. Non public polling has shown that americans negative
- 19:16feelings toward Doge don't affect Trump's poll numbers, according to
- 19:21White House Official. A Washington Post IPSOS poll found that
- 19:26forty three percent of American support what Trump has done
- 19:29in his first month, while forty eight percent oppose it.
- 19:33But Musk polling is worse. Only thirty four percent approve
- 19:36of how he's handling his job, while forty nine percent disapproved.
- 19:41Allies say Trump believes Musk played a crucial role in
- 19:46the twenty twenty four presidential election, especially turning out voters
- 19:50and key states, and is doing necessary work to weaken
- 19:54the federal civil service that has resisted Trump's agenda. While
- 19:58Doge has irritated Trump's age by generating nearly daily chaos
- 20:02in the capital, the president sees that disruption as a strength,
- 20:05not a weakness. Musk, meanwhile, has said Trump offers a
- 20:09generational opportunity to save the American government and pave the
- 20:13way for his goal of getting to Mars. Quote. Trump
- 20:17understands that you can't take on the establishment with a scalpel.
- 20:21If you take on the system with a scalpel, the
- 20:24system will break. You, unquote said Newt Gingrich, who served
- 20:27as Speaker of the House in the nineteen nineties and
- 20:30is a Trump ally. Quote Trump understands he needs a sledgehammer.
- 20:34Elon is that sledgehammer? Close the quote and that's the
- 20:38end of the first article. We'll go back to our
- 20:40list and we'll begin with the second article. Companies reframe
- 20:44DEID to put focus on leveling. Quote lifting unquote becomes
- 20:49quote leveling unquote. Companies reframe DEI mid Trump upheaval with
- 20:55private sectors policies in the government's crosshairs, businesses are ditching
- 21:00representation goals and focusing on inclusion. Here's the article. President
- 21:05Donald Trump's campaign to stamp out diversity, equity and inclusion
- 21:11policies is spurring many businesses to rapidly recalibrate how to
- 21:17ensure equal opportunity within their ranks, trading programs framed around
- 21:21race and identity for those rooted in business outcomes. Trump's
- 21:28orders last month dismantling federal DEI policies and programs sparked
- 21:33upheaval in layoffs across the federal workforce, while telegraphing similar
- 21:38aims for the private sector. Companies have taken notice this week. Pepsi, KPMG,
- 21:45and City Group joined the ranks of firms retiring workforce
- 21:48representation goals. Accenture, Deloitte and Google took similar steps last week,
- 21:56while Goldman Sachs announced it would ditch a requirement for
- 21:59corporate board of directors to include women and people of color,
- 22:03citing quote legal developments unquote, seeds of enforcement are beginning
- 22:08to manifest, with comcasts becoming one of the administration's first targets.
- 22:13In a February eleventh letter, Federal Communications Commissioned Chair Brendan
- 22:17Carr notified the media giant that he expects to aid
- 22:21quote broader efforts to root out invidious forms of DEI
- 22:25discrimination across all of the sectors the FCC regulates closed
- 22:30the quote. Missouri's Attorney General sued Starbucks in federal court
- 22:35the same day, alleging the coffee chains DEI practices discriminated
- 22:40based on race and six sex, turning its workforce quote
- 22:43more female and less white unquote. Companies are scrambling to
- 22:48strike a balance that keeps them out of the crosshairs
- 22:51or of an administration that is openly antagonistic toward DEI
- 22:56without negating its benefits, but the lack of clarity over
- 23:00what constitutes quote illegal DEI unquote in the eyes of
- 23:05the Trump administration has rattled executives and growing recognition that
- 23:10methods used for decades to attract and retain diverse talent
- 23:14are no longer viable. According to Tracy Diamond, an employment
- 23:19attorney at Troutman pepper Lock in Princeton, as they reorient,
- 23:24businesses are discarding workforce representation goals and identity based employee
- 23:30resource groups, rebranding and toning down DEI references in public
- 23:35facing documents. They're framing their policies around quote leveling unquote
- 23:39the playing field for all employees quote whether they're in
- 23:43the majority or minority unquote, Diamond said, rather than quote
- 23:47lifting unquote people on the basis of race, gender, or
- 23:50other considerations. The Post reached out to more than twenty
- 23:54companies that have recently signaled commitment to DIE efforts, including
- 23:58those that encourage share holders to reject anti DEA proposals
- 24:02during proxy season, such as Apple, Costco, JP, Morgan Chase,
- 24:07and Golden Sacks Goldman Sachs. None was willing to comment.
- 24:13Johnny C. Taylor, Junior Chief executive of Human Resources Association SCHRM.
- 24:18SHRM says he's been flooded with calls for panic executives
- 24:24since the January twenty eth inauguration. Companies were quote preparing
- 24:28for changes under Trump, he said, but not preparing enough.
- 24:32Close the quote. The CEO has been telling executives and
- 24:36SHRM's roughly three hundred and forty thousand members that dea
- 24:41quote cannot be a game where you only focus on
- 24:43inclusion for underrepresentative groups. Close the quote. Quote there's a
- 24:49way to do this legally, but many of you aren't.
- 24:51Right now unquote. Taylor keeps telling them quote, and you
- 24:55have to own that. Close the quote. After the twenty
- 24:58twenty murder of George Floyd raised larger conversations about systemic racism,
- 25:04dozens of large companies proclaimed their intent to be part
- 25:07of the solution. They pledged millions and adopted practices meant
- 25:11to create more diverse workforce, including recruiting and mentorship programs
- 25:16for historically marginalized groups, anti bias training, and employee resource groups.
- 25:24But the pressure to be loud about diversity efforts led
- 25:27to many companies quote performing inclusion without making things more
- 25:31fair unquote. According to Joel Emerson, CEO of Paradigm, a
- 25:36culture and inclusion platform, the environment encouraged companies to set
- 25:41up separate DEI operations that could be publicly touted, she said,
- 25:45rather than focus on more sustainable work, such as efforts
- 25:48to make their recruiting and hiring processes more equitable for
- 25:52people of all backgrounds. Now, as companies adjust under Trump, quote,
- 25:58I'm seeing companies lean into things that are good for
- 26:01their employees, but make clear other businesses that make clear
- 26:06business sense unquote, Emerson said. For example, she said she's
- 26:10seeing far less demand for quote one time high visibility
- 26:15training initiatives unquote, such as anti biased trainings for the
- 26:19whole workforce, and heighten interest in topics like how to
- 26:23minimize bias in recruiting and hiring processes. Still, in this climate,
- 26:31Emerson said, it will be tougher for employers to broadcast
- 26:34their commitment to this work. Quote. Companies have this selfish
- 26:39motivation to figure out how to achieve those outcomes. They're
- 26:43going to focus on how to make that happen instead
- 26:45of on quote how do we try to prove to
- 26:48people that were inclusive unquote. Many companies began reassuring the
- 26:54legality of their DEI programs after the Supreme Court struck
- 26:58down affirmative action in universe diversity admissions in twenty twenty three,
- 27:02which sparked dozens of lawsuits alleging that certain programs violated
- 27:07federal civil rights laws. In the flurry of post inauguration
- 27:11policy adjustments, many brands focus their messaging on inclusions importance
- 27:17to their business operations, even as they retired some programs. Quote.
- 27:22Whether it's a recruiting restaurant team members directly from the
- 27:26communities in which we operate, or creating more opportunities for
- 27:30entrepreneurs and growing a robust and innovative supply chain, our
- 27:35system leverage inclusion, leverages inclusion to operate successfully and grow
- 27:41our businesses closed to quote. McDonald said in a January
- 27:44letter to employees announcing it would end its supplier and
- 27:48leadership diversity goals. All right, now, this ends the first
- 27:53half of our program. I'll pick this article up in
- 27:56our second half. Welcome back to the reading of the
- 28:03Washington Post for today, Saturday, February twenty First, we have
- 28:14just finished a twenty eight minute section segment, and we're
- 28:18coming back to the article on DEI that we were reading.
- 28:26In an email to the Post, the fast food chain
- 28:30McDonald's said it would continue reporting demographic information about its board,
- 28:35employees and suppliers in its annual Purpose and Impact Report,
- 28:40and that its quote leaders will continue to be held
- 28:43accountable for fostering and inclusive environment within their teams unquote.
- 28:49MENA Vice Presidents of People Janelle Gell, said the social
- 28:54media company remains committed to building quote the best teams
- 28:58with the most talented people unquotquote while quote sourcing people
- 29:02from a range of candidate pools but never making hiring
- 29:06decisions based on protected characteristics e g. Race, gender, etc. Unquote.
- 29:12And a January memo shared with The Washington Post announcing
- 29:16the end of some of its de policies in place
- 29:19of quote equity and inclusion programs unquote. The memo continued
- 29:24meta plans to build quote programs that focus on how
- 29:28to apply fair and consistent practices that mitigate bias for all,
- 29:32no matter your background close unquote. As companies adapt, there's
- 29:36a real risk that they'll go quote too far in
- 29:39the other direction unquote. According to Jason Solomon, director of
- 29:43the National Institute of Working Workers' rights. Many DEI policies
- 29:47trace back to compliance with anti discrimination laws, Solomon noted,
- 29:52and firms that abandon them will be more vulnerable to
- 29:55lawsuits from women and people of color who feel they've
- 29:58been underpaid or passed for opportunities. That can challenge the companies. Quote.
- 30:06They can challenge companies and say, you all are giving
- 30:09clear signals all over the place that you don't really
- 30:12care about being fair to people who traditionally have been
- 30:14discriminated against unquote, Solomon said. Luke Hartig, who counsels Fortune
- 30:19five hundred companies and other large employers as president of
- 30:24Gravity Research, said Trump's DEI actions are already having a
- 30:29chilling effect. He's been helping companies develop game plans in
- 30:34the event they're targeted by anti DEI activists such as
- 30:38Robbie Starbuck or by the Justice Department, which issued a
- 30:42February memo warning that its Civil Rights Division will quote investigate, eliminate,
- 30:48and penalize illegal DEI anda preferences, mandates, policies, programs, and
- 30:54activities in the private sector and in the educational institutions
- 30:59that receive funds close the quote. Quote there is a
- 31:03sense of oh gosh, the Trump administration or his allies
- 31:06could target us next, and we need to be prepared
- 31:08for that. Close the quote, Heartig told the Post supplier
- 31:13diversity programs or policies with quote set asides for diverse
- 31:17applicants unquote, are now magnets for risk. Haartig has told
- 31:21his clients anything that could be considered quote exclusionary to
- 31:25white men unquote is also a major liability. He added.
- 31:29As companies conduct quote self audits unquote to vet their
- 31:33policies for legal and RePOP and reputational risk, they're struggling
- 31:38to find the right public quote public posture unquote to
- 31:43take on dei. Heartache said many are hung up on
- 31:47how to communicate it to employees that they still prioritize diversity,
- 31:51equity and inclusion at a time when voicing support makes
- 31:55them vulnerable. For example, he noted more firms got perfect
- 32:00scores on the Human Rights Campaign Corporate and Quality Index
- 32:05this year, but unlike in the past, they're not eager
- 32:08to tout their success amint high profile withdrawals from the
- 32:12HRC by firms such as Walmart and Pepsi, reticence is
- 32:17extending beyond dei, Hartig said, resulting in a quote default
- 32:21mode of not being inclined to speak unquote, especially on
- 32:25issues that are unrelated to the company's core business. Risk
- 32:30is most acute for consumer facing companies, he said, given
- 32:34the potential cost of buyouts and other consumer actions that
- 32:38have dented brands like bud Light and Target. Quote If
- 32:42companies are talking about DEI publicly in a way, they're
- 32:46tying it back to business value unquote, Heartig said, quote,
- 32:50one thing we are very little. One thing we see
- 32:53very little of compared to five years ago, is very
- 32:56little reference to DEI being part of addressing systemic racism
- 33:00and historic connequities unquote. The overhaul of corporate diversity politics
- 33:07is unfoting as more companies face investor challenges to their policies.
- 33:11Quote I've been at shareholder meetings where I was the
- 33:15only one at the meeting unquote, said Ethan Peck, deputy
- 33:18director of the National Center for Public Policy Research's Free
- 33:22Enterprise Project, who has filed scores of shareholder proposals asking
- 33:26companies such as Berkshire, Hathaway and Apple to reconsider or
- 33:31eliminate their DEI programs. Quote now we're not alone out
- 33:35there anymore. Unquote. More than two dozen firms removed anti
- 33:39DEI shareholder proposals this proxy season, including Airbnb, Coca Cola,
- 33:45and General Motors, and earlier this month, Todd Russ, Oklahoma Treasurer,
- 33:50announced that his state would follow suit with shareholder proposals
- 33:54calling for quote political neutrality unquote, targeting Amazon, alphabet in Netflix,
- 34:01which Oklahoma invests in through its two billion dollar tobacco
- 34:05settlement Envirownment endowment trust, Corporate America's wanting, Corporate America's waning
- 34:11confidence in DEI as notable. Peck said in twenty twenty
- 34:16two his group group's negotiations with companies felt quote hostile unquote,
- 34:21and DEI leaders and executives would accuse him of being
- 34:25racist for questioning their policies. By twenty twenty three, the
- 34:29tone was quote still hostile, but not as hostile unquote,
- 34:33said DEI teams, and DEI teams were no longer at
- 34:36the table. By twenty twenty four, most companies were saying, quote,
- 34:40we don't really have the programs you're accusing us of having, unquote.
- 34:44Peck told to Post, they're not even really mentioningda unquote.
- 34:48But when Vanguard, one of the world's largest asset managers
- 34:57released its twenty twenty five US proxy voting guidelines earlier
- 35:01this month. For example, it excluded guidance from the previous
- 35:05year that it called for boards to quote represent diversity
- 35:10of personal characteristics inclusive of at least diversity in gender, race,
- 35:14and ethnicity. Peck's proposals are still garnering extremely low support,
- 35:21despite a climate that has shifted in his favor. In January,
- 35:24for example, ninety eight percent of Costco shareholders shot down
- 35:28his proposal asking the retailer to evaluate the business risk
- 35:32of its diversity policies. In a detailed letter to shareholders
- 35:36before the company's annual meeting, Costco's board said its DEI
- 35:40efforts quote enhanced our capacity to attract and retain employees unquote,
- 35:45and dismissed ncppr's proposal as quote policy bias unquote. None
- 35:52of his None of this trouble's Peck. He pointed to Boeing,
- 35:55whose shareholders roundly rejected one of his proposals last year,
- 35:59only for the company to dismantle its DEI department months later. Quote,
- 36:04the anti DEI voice is now mainstream unquote. He said,
- 36:09that's the end of that article will now go to
- 36:10the third article. Because of the length of that second article,
- 36:16we're going to cut the remaining four articles so we
- 36:19can try to get them all in third article. A
- 36:22shaky audition for Gaza. With Gaza rule at stake, Palestinian
- 36:27forces struggled to make their case. A major military campaign
- 36:31by Palestinian authority security forces against militant's in West Bank
- 36:35revealed serious challenges to efforts at opposing order. Here's the article.
- 36:40The Palestinian authority recently took a high stakes gamble in
- 36:45this rest of city, launching a major military operation aimed
- 36:48at clipping the wings of militant groups that had grown
- 36:52in influence and audacity. If the operation succeeded, Palestinian security
- 36:57forces would demonstrate they could maintain order not only in
- 37:01the parts of the West Bank they nominally control, but also,
- 37:05if given the chance, perhaps in Gaza as well. The
- 37:08role of the Palestinian authority in governing Gaza is very
- 37:11much a live question, as foreign powers in Arab states
- 37:14now debate the future of the war torn enclave. But
- 37:21the six week campaign in jenin Jennin, which lost momentum
- 37:27after Israeli forces intervened last month ultimately came up badly
- 37:31short and exposed some of the challenges the authority would
- 37:34face in securing Gaza. While the security forces arrested dozens
- 37:40of Iranian backed fighters, high profile militants remained at large.
- 37:44The clashes highlighted how poorly equipped the Palestinian authority security
- 37:49forces are compared with the groups they are seeking to subdue.
- 37:55The campaign also underlined questions about how far Palestinians would
- 37:58go to fight fellow policians, and whether the authority could
- 38:02maintain its popular legitimacy if it did so. Moreover, the
- 38:06events in Janine revealed how Israel's actions, which include its
- 38:10own withering attacks on targets in the city, undermined the
- 38:14ability of the Palestinian Authority to exert its control. The
- 38:19battle between the Palestinian security forces and an umbrella group
- 38:23of fighters in Janine led by Palestinian Islamic Jihad, left
- 38:27fifteen dead, including at least six civilians, and dozens injured.
- 38:31A spokesman for the authority's forces said the question raised
- 38:35about the Palestinian Authority's ability to rule come as a
- 38:40government come as governments in the region are racing. By
- 38:44the end of this month to present a counterproposal to
- 38:46President Donald Trump's proposal to displace all of the Gaza
- 38:50Gaza strips two point two million inhabitants. While Israeli Prime
- 38:55Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said there must be no role
- 38:58for the Palestinian Authority in Gaza, an alternative Arab plan
- 39:03expected in the coming weeks is certain to give the
- 39:06authority a central role, despite profound concerns about its capabilities.
- 39:11The Janin operation quote demonstrated the limits of the PA
- 39:15security forces. Unquote, said Gaith Alomari, a senior fellow at
- 39:19the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Quote. If you
- 39:23cannot succeed decisively in an operation like Janine, how can
- 39:27you hope to tackle the infinitely more complex situation in Gaza?
- 39:31Close the quote. The Janine campaign was the biggest test
- 39:34so far of the Palestinian Authority forces, which are responsible
- 39:38for security control in the West Bank's major Palestinian population
- 39:42centers under the terms of the peace deal reached with
- 39:45Israel in the nineteen nineties. The forces included about thirty
- 39:49five thousand members and coordinate security and share intelligence with Israel,
- 39:54which continues to occupy the West Bank. The US government
- 39:59has given Palestinian security forces about one point one billion
- 40:03dollars since two thousand and seven, State Department officials said
- 40:07last year, and has supervised their training in Jordan. The
- 40:11Trump administration has stopped all funding to the Palestinian Authority
- 40:15security forces as part of the global freeze on foreign assistance,
- 40:18according to US and Palestinian officials. At a news conference
- 40:23last month and in an interview last week, Brigadier General
- 40:26Anwar Rahab, spokesman for the security forces, outlined what he
- 40:31said were the accomplishments of the Janine operation. Hundreds of
- 40:34militants and the accomplices arrested, illicit funds, explosives and weapons sees,
- 40:39improvised bombs that had been planted in neighborhoods meant. The
- 40:42militants said to target Israeli soldiers all diffused, but Janine residents.
- 40:48Israel officials said analysts have panned the operation. After laying
- 40:56siege for about six weeks to the Janine refugee camp,
- 40:59which is adjacent to the city, Palestinian security forces remained
- 41:03unable to penetrate its maze of narrow valleys. When Washington
- 41:07Post journalists visited the camp, on two occasions in mid January,
- 41:12armed militants strolled the streets while scouts with walkie talkies
- 41:16stood watch on rooftops, unbothered by sporadic bursts of gunfire
- 41:20from gunfire from security forces on the mountain above. The
- 41:24operation was taxing for the residents of the camp, but
- 41:27compared with raids by the Israeli troops. For the militants,
- 41:31it was a quote break or a break a vacation
- 41:35end quote, said Jihad, a senior member of the Janine Battalion,
- 41:39the umbrella group of militants. Like some others interviewed for
- 41:43this story, Jihad gave only first name out of fear
- 41:48of retribution. The Janine Battalion is better armed than the
- 41:51security forces, according to Tahani Mustafa Crisis Group's analysts for
- 41:57the Palestinian territories, many have sixteen rifles, spoke them in
- 42:01from Jordan or bought from weapons traffickers in Israel. Jihad
- 42:05said the authorities forces, in contrast, carry o Khalishnikov rifles.
- 42:11Israel has barred the Palestinian security forces from importing better weapons, ammunition,
- 42:16and light armored vehicles. In early January, the militants demonstrated
- 42:21their continued capabilities by shooting dead three Israelis driving through Funduk,
- 42:26a village outside the city. The Janine battalion claim responsibility.
- 42:31Then Jihad said the gunmen slipped undetected back into the
- 42:34camp to take refuge. The attack was quote first message
- 42:39to the PA because they are besieging us. But that
- 42:41won't end our resistance against the occupation, he said. Now
- 42:46this article is quite lengthy. I'm going to have to
- 42:48stop it there just to get the other three in
- 42:50by reference. The fourth article again, which will cut short
- 42:55because of time constraints, is in podcasts, DCUs attorney discussed
- 43:00investigating Trump foes conservative legal activists. Ed Martin has had
- 43:06conversations last year about potential targets for prosecution. Now he
- 43:10and the Justice Department have power to bring cases. Here's
- 43:14the article. In the two years before he became DC's
- 43:17top federal prosecutor, interim US Attorney, Ed Martin publicly discussed
- 43:22investigating high profile Justice Department officials who played a role
- 43:26in bringing charges against President Donald Trump and his allies.
- 43:30In scores of his personal podcasts from August twenty twenty
- 43:33three to January, Martin amplified Trump's claims not supported by
- 43:38available evidence, that charges against him were made to damage
- 43:42him politically, and that prosecutors may have violated federal criminal
- 43:45conspiracy laws, department policies, or legal ethics rules. The conversations
- 43:51on Martin's Quote pro America Report Unquote podcast and related
- 43:55radio show often revolved around Trump's desires for a quote
- 43:59rep tribution against current or former Department prosecutors. After one
- 44:06month in office, Martin appears to be following through taking
- 44:09actions that have alarmed lawyers inside and outside his office,
- 44:13who say he's leveraging the power of the Justice Department
- 44:17against political opponents and intimidating career prosecutors seen as insufficiently
- 44:23loyal to Trump. He fired prosecutors who investigated Trump as
- 44:27part of special counsel Jack Smith's team, and those who
- 44:31worked on January sixth, twenty twenty one capital ride cases.
- 44:35He ordered the head of the criminal division in his
- 44:37office to freeze the assets of a twenty billion dollar
- 44:41Biden climate change program without sufficient evidence of a crime,
- 44:46she claimed in her resignation letter, And he's attempting to
- 44:50probe two Democratic lawmakers over critical remarks they directed at
- 44:54conservative Supreme Court Justice and billionaire Trump advisor Elon Musk.
- 45:01A US Attorney's Office spokesman for Martin declined to comment
- 45:04about his remarks, and Justice Department spokesman did not respond
- 45:08to requests for comments for this article. I'm going to apologize.
- 45:12I'm going to cut that off right here in order
- 45:14to get the other two in the second one at
- 45:18town halls, Dge is all the rage back in their
- 45:21district's GOP lawmakers get an earfull on Doge and Musk.
- 45:26Town halls from Wisconsin Oregon grew testing this week as
- 45:30concerned voters showed up to vent. Here's the article. The
- 45:35crowd packed into city Hall at Roswell, Georgia and filled
- 45:40an overflow room with one question above all for their
- 45:42Republican congressman, what did he think of Elon musk slash
- 45:47and burn mission to shriek the federal government. Their Atlanta
- 45:51suburb in a solid red district was hardly a hub
- 45:55of the liberal resistance, but hundreds had shown up to
- 45:58confront Representative Richard mclach m in person. Now, each argument
- 46:02from the lawmaker brought a new round of shouts, groans,
- 46:06and booze. Quote, if you're going to just yell at me.
- 46:09That's not going to be an effective town hall. Unquote,
- 46:11McCormick said, five minutes into defending Musk US doge service. Quote,
- 46:17but we're pissed unquote. A woman shouted town halls this
- 46:21week for Congressional Republicans from Georgia to Wisconsin to Oregon
- 46:26grew testing his voters showed up to vent outraged at
- 46:29the firing of workers and the Department of Government efficiencies
- 46:33access to sensitive data. Protesters showed up around the country
- 46:37at lawmakers' offices. The backlash extends far beyond federal workers
- 46:43in the Beltway, reaching purple districts that will decide control
- 46:47of Congress in twenty twenty six and swing states like
- 46:50Georgia that helped return Trump to the White House. Layoffs
- 46:54just hit the Atlanta based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
- 46:58funding freezes of haul to clean energy projects championed by
- 47:02President Joe Biden. The crowd at McCormick's town hall Thursday
- 47:06night was decidedly liberal, but New Washington Post IPSOL polling
- 47:10suggests some of Trump and Musk movers or moves are
- 47:15unpopular beyond the Democratic base. About six and ten Americans
- 47:19surveyed were opposed to shutting down the US Agency for
- 47:22International Development, which must bragged about feeding quote into the
- 47:26wood Chapper unquote. Republicans have overwhelmingly backed Dog's mission and
- 47:33even moved to replicate it at the state level, including
- 47:36in Georgia, but they are also struggling to justify the
- 47:40scope of some cuts and scrambling to get exceptions for
- 47:43their constituents, in some cases lobbying the Trump administration to
- 47:48restore federal funds to their states. And a Foy teared
- 47:51up as she waited with her mother to watch McCormick's
- 47:54town hall from overflow. The thirty three year old Army
- 47:58reservists said the Bureau of Land Management had abruptly rescinded
- 48:01a job offer wrangling wild horses. She spoke to someone
- 48:05in McCormick's office, she said, and was here to follow up.
- 48:10The Bureau of Land Management did not immediately respond to
- 48:13requests for comment, and Kelly, a White House spokesman, said
- 48:17in a statement that Trump administration quote is already uncovering waste, fraud,
- 48:20and abuse across federal agencies unquote around the country. Other
- 48:26Republican House members faced sharp questions. After heading home for recess,
- 48:32Liberal groups encouraged their members to show up to town
- 48:35halls in deep red territory. In rural Legron, Oregon, attendees
- 48:40of Representative Cliff Bence's town hall erupted in booze and shouted, quote,
- 48:45tax elon unquote, according to local news outlet The Observer.
- 48:49In Ohio, Representative Troy Baltersen acknowledged some limits to Musk
- 48:54authority at a luncheon. According to the Columbus Dispatch, quote
- 48:58Congress has to decide whether the Departments of Education goes
- 49:01away unquote, Baldison said, quote, not the President, not Elon Musk.
- 49:05Congress decides unquote. But Republican lawmakers have mostly defended and
- 49:11declined to publicly criticize DOGE while endorsing its stated goals
- 49:17of rooting out waste in the federal government, and plenty
- 49:20of their base voters are eager for more cuts. Asked
- 49:24what they liked about Trump's first month in office, Republican
- 49:28voters elsewhere in McCormick's conservative districts sometimes brought up DOGE. Unprompted,
- 49:34they rattled off all the things they heard their tax
- 49:37dollars were funding occasionally echoing the White House's false claim
- 49:41that the government spent millions on condoms and GOSM. Well, unfortunately,
- 49:45because of time constraints, I'm going to have to curteil
- 49:49this article, which is very lengthy. I'm going to go
- 49:51back to just to try to mention the last one.
- 49:57Joint Chiefs Chair others lead fired in Pentagon shakeup. Trump
- 50:03ouse Joint chief Chairman, other leaders in major Pentagon shakeup.
- 50:08The Navy's top admiral and a senior Air Force general
- 50:12also were dismissed as Defense Secretary of Pete Hegseth moved
- 50:16to the line of the military with Trump's agenda. Here's
- 50:21the article. The Trump administration abruptly dismissed the chairman of
- 50:27the Joint Chiefs of Staff and other senior officers on
- 50:30Friday night, as the Pentagon moves to bring the military's
- 50:34leadership in line with its quote America First, unquote agenda.
- 50:39In a post on social media, President Donald Trump said
- 50:42he would replace Air Force General Charles Q. Brown Junior,
- 50:48and would take the unusual step of tapping a little
- 50:53known retired free star officer, Lieutenant General Dan Raisin Kane,
- 50:59raising his nickname as the next chairman. Defense Secretary of
- 51:04Pete Hegseth, in a statement distributed shortly after Trump's post,
- 51:09said he would dismiss five other senior officials, including Admiral
- 51:13Lisa Franchetti, the first woman to serve as chief of
- 51:17Naval Operations, and General James Slithe, the top Air Force officer. Quote.
- 51:23Under President Trump, we are putting in place new leadership
- 51:27that will focus our military on its core mission of deterring,
- 51:31fighting and winning warste Hexath said. Hexath informed Brown, who
- 51:37was in Texas on Friday for a visit to the
- 51:39southwest border, that he was being removed before Trump's announcement,
- 51:43said US, said a US Defense official speaking on the
- 51:47condition of anonymity to discuss the leadership shake up. The
- 51:51vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Christopher Grady, is
- 51:55expected to serve as interim chairman until Caine can be confirmed. Brown,
- 52:00a veteran pilot and battlefield commander who Trump nominated during
- 52:04his first term in office to become the Air Force's
- 52:07first African American Chief of Staff, was roughly sixteen months
- 52:12into what was expected to be a four year term.
- 52:15He was elevated to the military's top position by President
- 52:19Joe Biden in twenty twenty three, making him the second
- 52:22black man to hold the chairman's job. General Colin Power
- 52:25was the first. The dismissals comes as Trump's campaign to
- 52:30whittle down the federal workforce triggers court challenges and chaos
- 52:35for government workers, and his shifts on foreign policy, including
- 52:39an embrace of Russia's narrative about the war in Ukraine,
- 52:43stoke confusion and anxiety among US allies. The firings appeared
- 52:48to represent the most significant move yet in the administration's
- 52:51emerging campaign to purge the Pentagon of what Hagseth has
- 52:55decried as quote woke unquote policies and personnel, and despite
- 53:00the military's role as a non partisan institution spanning administrations
- 53:04to both parties, to reshape its highest ranks. In the
- 53:08weeks after the arrival of the Pentagon at the Pentagon
- 53:11following a controversial confirmation process, Hexath has moved quickly to
- 53:16dismantle diversity initiatives, which has called which he has called
- 53:20quote racist unquote end quote illegal unquote. At a Pentagon
- 53:25town hall this month, Hexas said diversity initiatives have quote
- 53:29served a purpose of dividing the force as opposed to
- 53:33uniting unquote the military. Quote. The single dumbest phrase in
- 53:37military history is quote, our diversity is our strength unquote,
- 53:41he said, before being tapped at by Trump. Hexath attacked
- 53:48senior officers by name, including Brown, whom he said was
- 53:52overly focused on diversity issues. He also criticized Franchetti, suggesting
- 53:57she was selected for the leadership posts because of her
- 54:01The administration had previously fired another uniform leader, Admiral Coastguard
- 54:07Linda Fagan, for alleged leadership failures. The Coastguard falls under
- 54:11the Department of Homeland Security. In his post on truth
- 54:14Social Trump called Brown quote a fine gentleman and an
- 54:18outstanding leader. Quote. I wish a great future for him
- 54:21and his family unquote, the president said. Senator Roger Wicker,
- 54:25Republican of Mississippi, chairman of the Senate Armed Conservatives Committee,
- 54:29thanked Brown for his service. Quote I am confidence Secretary
- 54:32Hexcess and President Trump will select a qualified and capable
- 54:36successor for the critical position of Chairman of the Joint
- 54:40Chiefs of Staff unquote, he said in a statement. But
- 54:43the top Democrats decried the move. Senator Jack Reid of
- 54:47Rhode Island, the committee's ranking democrat, said the dismissals appeared
- 54:51to mark an attempt to quote purge talented officers for
- 54:55politically charged reasons, which would undermine the professionalism of our
- 54:59milk terry and send the chilling message through the ranks. Unquote.
- 55:05Representative Adam Smith of Washington, the House Armed Services Committee's
- 55:09top democrat, labeled the move of Friday night massacre that
- 55:13would weaken national security. Quote all of this continues to
- 55:16play into the hands of Vladimir Putin and others working
- 55:20to exploit the weakness. Trump continues to broadcast and undermine
- 55:24the military, our government, our national security interest, and democracy worldwide, quote,
- 55:29Smith said, referring to the Russian president. Trump extolled Cain,
- 55:33a pilot who served in various special operation roles and
- 55:37at the CIA, as quote a national security expert, successful entrepreneur,
- 55:42and a war fighter with significant Inner agency and special
- 55:46operations experience. Closed the vote, cain selection bucks numerous norms.
- 55:51As a three star general, he would vault numerous higher
- 55:54ranking officers, including every current member of the Joint Chiefs
- 55:57of Staff, and unlike all of them, he has not
- 56:01commanded large formations of US troops. He did not respond
- 56:05to requests for comment by email and social media. Unfortunately,
- 56:09I have to cut it off right there. This concludes
- 56:12the readings of the Washington Post for today, Saturday, February
- 56:18twenty second. Your reader for today has been Mark Webster.
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