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Everything you need to know about the Cubs-Padres playoff series · North Side Territory: A Chicago Cubs Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory fil Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: Sahade Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are doing
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Speaker 1: a crossover episode Friar's Territory Is with us Kyle Glazer,
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Speaker 1: the host of that show. It is a Cubs Padres
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Speaker 1: nld or wild card matchup NLDS where to decides who
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Speaker 1: goes to the nld suh. It is a team two
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Speaker 1: teams with a lot of star star power. Probably the
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Speaker 1: stars aren't right now, at least at least on the
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Speaker 1: Cub side. We'll we'll talk to Kyle and and and
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Speaker 1: get a better idea. The stars probably aren't playing at
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Speaker 1: their peak right now for the Cubs. Uh, Kyle, Let's
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Speaker 1: get right to it that the Padres were built like
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Speaker 1: with stars in mind. AJ Browler built this team and
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of money on the stars. How How
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Speaker 1: is Manny Mitchatdo performing Fernando Tatis? I mean you could
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Speaker 1: lump in Xander Bogart. So they said, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of big names on this team. Where where are there?
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Speaker 1: And you can throw in Dylan Ceesa. I guess let
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Speaker 1: us know. Let Cubs fans know what's going on with
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Speaker 1: the Padres right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you mentioned all those position players who are superstars.
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Speaker 2: For most of the season, the Patres never really had
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Speaker 2: them all performing well at the same time, we've seen
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Speaker 2: over the past month they're starting to find their stride.
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Speaker 2: For Nanotatist Junior had seven home runs in September. Jackson
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Speaker 2: Merrill had seven home runs in September. Manny Machado had
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Speaker 2: six home runs in September, most of which came in
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Speaker 2: the back half after he got some days off. So
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Speaker 2: the Potter's position players, frankly, after not doing a whole
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Speaker 2: lot most of this year offensively, are starting to really
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Speaker 2: click in the year. The stars that are really going
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Speaker 2: to be the X factors for this Padres team in
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Speaker 2: this series are actually on the pitching side. Nick Paveta
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Speaker 2: has been dominant all year. He will start Game one.
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Speaker 2: He's been consistent, he's been durable, anything and everything you
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Speaker 2: could ask for. The real X factors for this Padres
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Speaker 2: team in the series are Dylan cs and you Darvish,
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Speaker 2: two stars on the pitching side who have not performed
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Speaker 2: well at all this year, particularly on the road. Dylan
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Speaker 2: Cees has been extremely inconsistent and not just good start,
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Speaker 2: bad start, good start, bad start. It's been four bad starts,
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Speaker 2: good start, three bad starts, good start, and you, Darvis,
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Speaker 2: just to be blunt about it, has not been effective
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Speaker 2: at all since coming off the aisle with elbow inflammation.
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Speaker 2: And right now those guys are lined up to be
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Speaker 2: the Potters season games two and if necessary, Darvish game three.
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Speaker 2: So really, the stars to focus on from the podres
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Speaker 2: perspective are actually on the starting pitching side, as opposed
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Speaker 2: to the guys in the lineup, who right now, for
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Speaker 2: the most part, are actually doing what they're being paid
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Speaker 2: to do.
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Speaker 3: So I'm just curious your thoughts.
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Speaker 4: I just laughed when Kyle mentioned Dylan CS and you, Darvish,
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Speaker 4: we can sort of never escape.
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Speaker 3: Those X Cub storylines.
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Speaker 4: How do you feel like the Cub's rotation of out getters,
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Speaker 4: as Counsel would say, are set up for this matchup
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Speaker 4: here now that Kate Horton's out for the foreseeable future.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you'd feel a lot better with Kate Horton.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm stating anything controversial there. He has
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Speaker 1: been everything that the Cubs wanted more, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think that's their biggest question Mark, how you know can
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Speaker 1: they handle this Padres offense. I know it hasn't been
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Speaker 1: a dominant force all season long, but the Cubs starting
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Speaker 1: pitching has not been firing on all cylinders lately, at
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Speaker 1: least not their top two guys heading into this series.
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Speaker 1: And that's likely going to be We still don't know.
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Speaker 5: Craig.
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Speaker 1: We're recording on a Monday morning. Craig Council is, you know,
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Speaker 1: holding his cards close to his vest. He has not
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Speaker 1: told us who's starting. I if I were guessing, I'd
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Speaker 1: say it's Matthew Boyd. It's it's probably Boyder. SHOWEDA in Monaga.
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Speaker 1: Neither of those guys are clicking on all cylinders.
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Speaker 5: Showeda had a really.
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Speaker 1: Rough start before his final start, eight runs, multiple home runs.
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Speaker 5: I believe Patrick.
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Speaker 1: We said on our last episode twelve home runs and
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Speaker 1: his last six starts. Just you know, he's good at
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Speaker 1: limiting damage even though he gives up home runs.
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Speaker 5: You have to hope that's the case with him.
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Speaker 1: You have to hope that Matthew Boyd, if you're speaking
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Speaker 1: from the Cub side, did the Cubs fans have to
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Speaker 1: hope that Matthew Boyd looks more like his last start
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Speaker 1: than the previous half dozen, because this guy went from
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Speaker 1: All Star dominant. The Cubs would not be where they
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Speaker 1: are right now without Matthew Boyd. But he's struggled in
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Speaker 1: the second half, particularly early on in games it seemed
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Speaker 1: like he'd he'd looked like, oh no, this guy's not
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Speaker 1: going to give you two innings, three innings, and then
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Speaker 1: he'd he'd have a bad first and then go five somehow.
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Speaker 5: So if he.
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Speaker 1: Can he eliminated that first inning rough patch his last
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Speaker 1: time out, I don't know how they're like. I think
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Speaker 1: that's probably maybe we'll right away when the when the
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Speaker 1: game starts, Matthew Boyd has a good first inning, can
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Speaker 1: the Cubs handle these stars at the top of the
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Speaker 1: Padres lineup, Maybe that'll be a big sign for for
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Speaker 1: everything that's gonna happen afterwards, because I do think if
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Speaker 1: you're looking at like a key matchup, it's probably the
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Speaker 1: Padres start position player stars versus the Cubs right now.
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Speaker 1: Don downtrodden starting pitching staff, I don't I don't want
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Speaker 1: to over maybe maybe that's a little hyperbolic, but with
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Speaker 1: Kate Horton out and these guys not at the top
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Speaker 1: of their game. You know, if we like, if you're
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Speaker 1: talking about who their hottest pitchers are, it's Jameson Tywn
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Speaker 1: and Colin Ray as far as starters. So those guys
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Speaker 1: aren't going to get the game one start. But you know,
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Speaker 1: that's that's just how it is right now. Colin Rays
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Speaker 1: looked amazing, but he's not going to be you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he gets a start in the
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Speaker 1: wildcard round.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's going to be really interesting. You
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Speaker 2: talk about showda In Monaga and Matthew Boyd and their struggles.
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Speaker 2: The Potters offense has struggled battle against left handed starters
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Speaker 2: this year, and we saw that earlier in the season
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Speaker 2: when showed at Amenaga and Matthew Boyd both had two
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Speaker 2: starts against the Padres and carve them in both starts.
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Speaker 2: So realistically, the way the Potterys line up right now,
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Speaker 2: especially with Ramon Loreano out for the first round after
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Speaker 2: breaking a finger, that's a huge loss for the Padres
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Speaker 2: because he was one of their few hitters who could
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Speaker 2: really rake against lefties. Five of the Pottery's' top eight
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Speaker 2: hitters are left handed, and Fernando Tatis Junior has struggled
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Speaker 2: against lefties all year. So realistically, six of their eight
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Speaker 2: best hitters don't match up great against lefties, and we
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Speaker 2: have seen some of the higher end lefties have no
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Speaker 2: trouble with them. Kyle Freelan eight innings, two hits, you know,
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Speaker 2: no runs, ten k's in Colorado, Andrew Abbott eight hittings,
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Speaker 2: you know, one hit, Nick Ldolo five innings, just cruising
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Speaker 2: through him. So I do think that's going to be
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Speaker 2: interesting because you're right. Emmenaga and Boyd when they're right,
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Speaker 2: have shown the ability to pitch effectively, particularly against this
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Speaker 2: Potters offense, but that was back in April. They're both
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Speaker 2: very different pitchers.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be curious to see if the fact
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Speaker 2: this Potter's offense is clicking now and has heated up,
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Speaker 2: if that will mitigate some of their season long struggles
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Speaker 2: against lefties, or if it's just going to be the
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Speaker 2: same story as it has been all year.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Patrick get I'm curious.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm curious with you, Like I think the fans
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Speaker 1: that listen to our show know how I feel about
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Speaker 1: this offense. I feel like they've turned a corner. Where
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Speaker 1: are you at with this offense that we talked about
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Speaker 1: the padre stars.
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Speaker 5: The Cups have some stars. We know that Pete G.
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Speaker 1: Armstrong, maybe his offensive numbers don't look as as great
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Speaker 1: at the end the season. He's a star. Kyle Tucker's back,
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Speaker 1: he's healthy. How are you feeling about this offense? Where
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Speaker 1: where's your head at?
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Speaker 5: And like, what are you seeing?
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Speaker 3: Not as optimistic as you are?
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Speaker 1: Hot it?
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Speaker 4: But I would not go so far as to use
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Speaker 4: an adjective like downtrodden an area of a ninety two
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Speaker 4: in team.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I think I've covered too many empty playoff losses at
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Speaker 4: Wrigley Field going back to seventeen eighteen, twenty twenty. There
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Speaker 4: just hasn't been a whole lot of offense there and
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Speaker 4: Wrigley has not become a better park for hitters during
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Speaker 4: that time. So yeah, I think there were some nice
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Speaker 4: signs over the weekend. I'm not sure how much of
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Speaker 4: that was just a checked out Cardinals team that really,
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Speaker 4: you know, as an organization, didn't invest much at all
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Speaker 4: into this season. But yeah, for me, it's it's Pete
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Speaker 4: crow Armstrong, just fascinated to see how he responds. I
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Speaker 4: don't think anyone has a good answer for why Saya
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Speaker 4: Suzuki just sort of disappeared for months. Offensively, and like
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Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker, I'm not that concerned about I think he'll
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Speaker 4: he'll draw his walk, he'll get a single.
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Speaker 3: I think he has a playoff experience.
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Speaker 4: I think we are kind of at a point where
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Speaker 4: we're gonna be watching the last games of Kyle Tucker
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Speaker 4: in a Cub's uniform. Not sure how many Cubs fans
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Speaker 4: are gonna be taking photos of that one, but this
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Speaker 4: is the chance for him to totally kind of rewrite
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Speaker 4: what was an awesome first half a very disappointing second half,
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Speaker 4: and then I don't know if anyone has more at
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Speaker 4: stake this October financially than he does.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting you guys made the point that from the
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Speaker 2: Cubs perspective, you feel like the key matchup is going
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Speaker 2: to be the Cubs starters versus the Potter's hitters. From
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Speaker 2: the Potters perspective, it's the opposite. It's those Potters starters
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Speaker 2: who again, Dylan Season, you Darvish have not pitched well,
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Speaker 2: particularly on the road. You know Dylan sees has a
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Speaker 2: five point five eight E array on the road. You
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Speaker 2: Darvish is over seven. I mean, it has been horrible
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Speaker 2: on the road, not that horrible. So you have those
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Speaker 2: two guys who have been scuffling away from Peco Park
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Speaker 2: with an offense like you guys said that the first
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Speaker 2: half looks like one of the best offenses in baseball,
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Speaker 2: and then PCA and Michael Bush and say Suzuki all
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Speaker 2: hit around the Mendoz align the second half. You know,
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Speaker 2: we've seen a lot Kyle Tucker obviously getting hurt. I'm
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Speaker 2: really curious to see because I actually think what the
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Speaker 2: series will come down to, at least from the Potter's perspective,
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Speaker 2: is which of these slumping standouts get hot at the
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Speaker 2: right time. Is it the Potters pitchers and Game two
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Speaker 2: and potential Game three, or is it those Cubs sluggers
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Speaker 2: who have struggled in the second half. I really think
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Speaker 2: that's going to be the difference in the series.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's probably You're probably right.
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Speaker 1: If the stars, the different stars, the slumping stars step up,
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Speaker 1: whichever side gets those slumping stars, and you know, playoffs
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Speaker 1: a big series, or Ryan or Earn, who knows someone
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Speaker 1: someone steps up and we're talking about them for weeks.
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Speaker 1: Uh, if we talk about stars, you know that the
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Speaker 1: Cubs bullpen is not star laden, that these aren't big names.
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Speaker 1: But the Padres, on the other hand, they they put together,
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Speaker 1: you know, a menacing bullpen. This was a focus of theirs.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's three games, potentially three games in a row.
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Speaker 1: It's a little different without off days. Still feels like
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Speaker 1: these guys are going to come in big and and
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Speaker 1: especially with what you said about the starters for the Padres, Kyle,
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that we're gonna see these relievers
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Speaker 1: a lot.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Jason Adams the one that's that's down. Well, what what
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Speaker 1: is going on with the Padres bullpen?
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Speaker 5: Who?
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Speaker 1: Who should Cubs fans be scared of? Who may be
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Speaker 1: scuffling right now. What what's what's the status of this
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Speaker 1: group and and how do you feel they they're going
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Speaker 1: to factor into this series.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, even with the loss of Jason Adams, this has
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Speaker 2: been a lockdown bullpen. This is the best bullpen in
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Speaker 2: baseball with room to spare. Pick your favorite statistic era
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Speaker 2: opponent's average whip. The Potters are first and first by
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Speaker 2: a wide margin, and just when you watch them, it's
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Speaker 2: a completely different animal from what you typically see. I
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Speaker 2: will say from the Potters' perspective, this is partially why
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Speaker 2: the starting pitching performance is so key. They don't need
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Speaker 2: Dylan Cson you Darvish to go throw seven shot innings.
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Speaker 2: They just need to get five decent innings from them.
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Speaker 2: Because once the bullpen is in the game, and I
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Speaker 2: don't say this hyperbolically, the game is pretty much over.
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Speaker 2: The Potters are seventy five and three when leading after
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Speaker 2: eight innings. This year there's seventy five and five when
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Speaker 2: leading after seven. This is a team that just if
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Speaker 2: they have a lead, I mean even the six, I
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Speaker 2: think they're sixty eight and five. I mean, this is
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Speaker 2: a team that if they're leading after six, it really
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Speaker 2: is game over. They have the ability to shorten games.
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Speaker 2: It's Jeremiah Strada, Audrey and Morehane, Robert Swarez and Mason Miller.
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Speaker 5: Those are the core four.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, they all can get anyone out righty, lefty, fastball hitters,
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Speaker 2: breaking hitters, doesn't matter. Those core four for the podre
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Speaker 2: can really beat anyone. You know, some of the supporting
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Speaker 2: cast are not as dominant, the Yuky mat Suies of
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Speaker 2: the world, the David Morgan's of the world. But I
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Speaker 2: think about like David Morgan's unsung rookie. He still pumps
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Speaker 2: ninety eight and had an era in the threes, and
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Speaker 2: that's their like sixth the best reliever.
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Speaker 5: So from the.
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Speaker 2: Potters' perspective, this the formula for their season success has
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Speaker 2: been really simple. The starter keeps it close, the bullpen
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Speaker 2: comes in and shuts down the opposing lineup, and the
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Speaker 2: offense is able to scratch across a runner two or
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Speaker 2: three late and they win four to three, five to three.
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Speaker 2: That's been the Potter's formula all year. So from the
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Speaker 2: Cub's perspective, they need to jump on those struggling Pottery's
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Speaker 2: starters early because if it becomes a battle at the
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Speaker 2: bullpen's and as much as I love Daniel Planci a
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Speaker 2: pump in one hundred, it's going to be edge potters
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Speaker 2: if it becomes a battle of the bullpen. So for
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Speaker 2: the Cubs, they really got to jump on Cease and
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Speaker 2: darbyshif they get the opportunity, and Paveta too, but that
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Speaker 2: one's gonna be a little bit tougher Gole.
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Speaker 4: I was just curious about Mason Miller here because it's
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Speaker 4: it's really interesting of you have a Cup's president Jed Hoyer,
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Speaker 4: who used to be the San Diego GM and who operates,
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Speaker 4: you know, was the complete opposite fashion from AJ Preller.
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Speaker 4: Now that goes for almost every executive walking in baseball
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Speaker 4: right now. But I was just curious, like how the
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Speaker 4: padres keep finding these prospects and emptying the pharm system
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Speaker 4: can still go out and get Mason Miller. And what
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Speaker 4: is it like watching Mason Miller up close rather than
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Speaker 4: just seeing like a clip on social media of him
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Speaker 4: throwing one hundred and five.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they answer your first question. AJ Preller and
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Speaker 2: his staff are probably the best staff in baseball at
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Speaker 2: evaluating amateur talent. They have a full freight scouting staff
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Speaker 2: in terms of highly paid scouts who have a long
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Speaker 2: track record of being right. They don't cut corners with
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Speaker 2: amateur scouting. And while they certainly use analytics to a degree,
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Speaker 2: they really trust guys who have twenty thirty years of
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Speaker 2: track records right in this game. And they pay for
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Speaker 2: good scouts and they give them the resources they need
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Speaker 2: to be successful. That's half the battle, having the right
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Speaker 2: scouts and giving them all the resources. With that, they
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Speaker 2: have shown the ability to find players who have big
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Speaker 2: tools that even if maybe there's a shortcoming in their game,
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Speaker 2: opposing teams are gonna love it. They're gonna see, oh wow,
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Speaker 2: there's this nineteen year old with big tools. Think about
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Speaker 2: the U Darvis trade right obviously, oh in case, his
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Speaker 2: big tool was power. But the Cubs were also you know,
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Speaker 2: the Potters were also able to get them by trading
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Speaker 2: guys like Reggie Presciato and Ismail Mina, who we know
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Speaker 2: weren't really that good, but Presciata was huge and you
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Speaker 2: could dream on the tools. Mina, you know, could dream
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Speaker 2: on the outfield. So that's kind of the Potters mo.
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Speaker 2: And because of that they're able to just constantly reload
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Speaker 2: and have all this young talent they can trade for.
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Speaker 2: In terms of Mason Miller, you know, I got to
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Speaker 2: really appreciate him when he was in Oakland, just being
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Speaker 2: a national writer at Baseball from America for so many years,
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Speaker 2: including doing the CUB system for a while. Got to
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Speaker 2: see Miller coming up. I saw him as a starter
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Speaker 2: or two when he broke in, watching him night in
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Speaker 2: and night on in person. It's ridiculous because you're right.
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Speaker 2: You see the social media clip of one o two,
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Speaker 2: but what you don't see is the slider is actually
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Speaker 2: the better pitch. I mean, that thing is just absolutely insane.
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Speaker 2: It's one oh one, one oh two, and here's a
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Speaker 2: disgusting slider hitter has no chance to hit. And the
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Speaker 2: other part of it, too, is he doesn't walk guys.
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Speaker 2: It's not like he's, you know, this flamethrow thrower who's
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Speaker 2: all over the place. He hadn't a Maculim inning already
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Speaker 2: this year. I mean, it is pounding the strikes on
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Speaker 2: the stuff guys just can't touch. And he can do
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Speaker 2: it for more than an inning. We've seen him go
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Speaker 2: inning in a third inning, in two thirds, even two innings.
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Speaker 2: This is a relief weapon on par with you know,
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Speaker 2: what Cubs stams will remember what Andrew Miller was for
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Speaker 2: the Indians back in twenty sixteen. This is every bit
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Speaker 2: that level, just sheer dominance of a guy who when
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Speaker 2: he comes in the game, I mean you're kind of done.
17:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what you said before. I think Cubs fans
17:52
Speaker 1: need to kind of wrap their minds around. The Cubs
17:55
Speaker 1: are going to need to score early. They there's no
17:58
Speaker 1: time to kind of settle into the game against these Padres.
18:01
Speaker 1: Look the Cubs. The Cubs bullpen, I believe is underrated.
18:06
Speaker 1: I think they have a solid group of key relievers.
18:10
Speaker 1: It's not comparable to the Padres because I don't really
18:12
Speaker 1: know if it's like the Padres bullpen is comparable.
18:15
Speaker 5: To any team in baseball right now.
18:19
Speaker 1: I mean Padres fans are going to be familiar with
18:22
Speaker 1: Drew Palmerance. He's he's a great story for this season.
18:26
Speaker 1: I have no idea how he's been as good as
18:29
Speaker 1: he's been really effective lefty for the Cubs. He's been
18:33
Speaker 1: their second best lefty that he's been great. He's probably
18:36
Speaker 1: be the best lefty on most teams. But Caleb Thielbar
18:39
Speaker 1: has been absolutely brilliant, little a little bit of a
18:42
Speaker 1: hiccup at the end of the year. Here a couple
18:45
Speaker 1: outings where he doesn't look as sharp. My guess is
18:48
Speaker 1: with this coaching staff, with with him being a veteran,
18:51
Speaker 1: they'll figure out whatever's wrong. As long as he's healthy,
18:54
Speaker 1: as long as it's not a tired being tired issue,
18:57
Speaker 1: they'll lock it in. The guy that Prodricks fans may
19:01
Speaker 1: not realize is as good as he is is Brad Keller,
19:05
Speaker 1: who's been the best reliever for this team. Just just
19:08
Speaker 1: a revelation, non roster invite. We see this every year
19:12
Speaker 1: with different teams all across baseball. Somebody that you know,
19:15
Speaker 1: converted starter like Brad Keller, guy that you know has
19:18
Speaker 1: struggled for years, whatever it may be, they turn into
19:21
Speaker 1: one of the best relievers in baseball.
19:23
Speaker 5: He does it all.
19:23
Speaker 1: He gets strikeouts, he doesn't walk guys, he gets ground balls,
19:26
Speaker 1: throws upper nineties, great reliever, just a just an amazing story.
19:31
Speaker 1: Andrew Kittridge is one of those guys that you just
19:33
Speaker 1: is like, this guy just goes out there and gets
19:35
Speaker 1: it done. Nothing's like spectacular, nothing, You're not going to
19:38
Speaker 1: get any pitching ninja stuff out there, but but he
19:42
Speaker 1: just goes out there, he's really and he's really calm,
19:44
Speaker 1: seems to have a rubber arm. And Polentsia is back
19:48
Speaker 1: and he's probably fifth on the totem pole right now.
19:51
Speaker 1: So it's a solid group. You got those five guys. Yeah,
19:55
Speaker 1: it's a it's a perfectly acceptable group. It's just it
19:59
Speaker 1: seems like such it's you know, most teams. I'd say
20:02
Speaker 1: the Cubs are pretty even with their bullpen. It's just
20:04
Speaker 1: it just it looks like the Potterys have such a
20:06
Speaker 1: huge advantage here.
20:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again it's less about the Cubs and all
20:09
Speaker 2: those guys you mentioned. Those are good pitchers, there's no
20:12
Speaker 2: question about it. It's just the Potters are on a
20:14
Speaker 2: different level. Like I said, you know, pick your favorite statistic.
20:17
Speaker 2: The Potters are the best in baseball and best buy
20:19
Speaker 2: a wide margin. Their bullpenny ray is nearly half a
20:22
Speaker 2: run better than the runner up team. I mean it is.
20:25
Speaker 2: It is a huge gap. Their opponents average, their whip.
20:28
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's not like a little bit, it's
20:30
Speaker 2: you know, opponent average. Think it's like fifteen points. I
20:32
Speaker 2: mean it's it's a big gap them and everyone else.
20:35
Speaker 2: And but a fun fact about Andrew Kittridge when his
20:38
Speaker 2: playing days are done, he will have a job as
20:40
Speaker 2: a coach as one of the best fungo hitters you have.
20:44
Speaker 2: I so my first job was covering the High Desert
20:47
Speaker 2: Mavericks for the Victorville Daily Press, covering minor league baseball.
20:50
Speaker 2: Kittridge was on that team, had a six and a half.
20:52
Speaker 2: The ray I can't say. I looked at him and said, yeah,
20:54
Speaker 2: that was being a pitch in an All Star game
20:56
Speaker 2: later in his care and he did. It was credit
20:58
Speaker 2: but he he hits the most perfect fungos you will see.
21:02
Speaker 2: So that's fascin Okay, talent, secret talent.
21:05
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's not gonna be on our X
21:07
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21:12
Speaker 1: take another quick break and talk about pretty much the
21:15
Speaker 1: rest of what's going on with these teams and some
21:17
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Speaker 1: When it comes to X factors, I don't know if
22:26
Speaker 1: this is the X factor. I think it's the best
22:27
Speaker 1: part of this Cubs team, the strongest part of this
22:30
Speaker 1: Cubs team, and I think it will play huge factor
22:33
Speaker 1: in this series because if the Cubs. It's the reason
22:37
Speaker 1: you think, like the Cubs have good pitching, it's because
22:39
Speaker 1: their defense is so good. Yes, and they have the
22:43
Speaker 1: best defensive center fielder in baseball, the best defensive second
22:47
Speaker 1: basement in baseball, and then one of the best defensive
22:52
Speaker 1: shortstops in baseball, and probably the most underrated defensive third
22:56
Speaker 1: basement in baseball. Because I had no clue Matt Shaw
22:59
Speaker 1: could play as good a defense. I don't think many
23:01
Speaker 1: people did. And and then you go around the diamond,
23:05
Speaker 1: there's no real weakness.
23:07
Speaker 2: You know.
23:08
Speaker 1: I guess Saya Suzuki is going to be playing right field.
23:10
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure. I assume that because we
23:12
Speaker 1: never saw Kyle Tucker play before the field, before the
23:15
Speaker 1: season ended. We didn't see him get back out there.
23:19
Speaker 1: He can, he can make his mistakes. But other than that, like,
23:22
Speaker 1: these are all plus defenders, And I think it just
23:26
Speaker 1: changes the way you look at the Cub's pitching staff.
23:29
Speaker 1: They don't make mistakes. They make plays that most teams
23:32
Speaker 1: just wouldn't. Peaker armstrongs out there making plays look easy
23:35
Speaker 1: that that should not be easy, and then he makes
23:38
Speaker 1: plays that no one else can.
23:41
Speaker 5: Make, and it's it's remarkable how good he is.
23:45
Speaker 1: That may not be as big of a factor a
23:46
Speaker 1: Wrigley field as far as Peaker Armstrong, but the infield
23:48
Speaker 1: defense is going to be huge. It just I think
23:52
Speaker 1: it's incredibly important and I think it made It has
23:56
Speaker 1: the potential to swing this series as long as the
23:58
Speaker 1: Cubs pitchers are missing arlds and not sending balls over
24:01
Speaker 1: the fence.
24:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's no question. I remember I put
24:05
Speaker 2: an eighty on PCA's defense coming out of high school,
24:07
Speaker 2: and when I was writing him in the Prospect handbook,
24:09
Speaker 2: it was I saw him in Myrtle Beach and it
24:10
Speaker 2: was like it was beautiful to watch. It really really was.
24:14
Speaker 2: I was just so graceful, it was amazing. I think
24:16
Speaker 2: for the Podreys, what is good for them in that
24:19
Speaker 2: sense is they're also a very reliable, fundamentally sound team.
24:23
Speaker 2: The Cubs are second in baseball and defensive efficiency this year.
24:26
Speaker 2: The Potters are third. So I mean, you have two
24:28
Speaker 2: really good defenses. The potteris don't beat themselves. And that's
24:32
Speaker 2: one of the things that has been consistent throughout this year.
24:34
Speaker 2: You know, as the offense has gone up and down,
24:36
Speaker 2: as the starting pitching has gone up, and down. They
24:38
Speaker 2: play good, clean, fundamentally sound baseball and that has kept
24:41
Speaker 2: them in a lot of games. They don't shoot themselves
24:43
Speaker 2: in the foot like we see some other teams do.
24:46
Speaker 2: I think for the Podreys know the real X factor
24:49
Speaker 2: is hey, what version of Dylan cson U Darvish are
24:52
Speaker 2: they going to get? The two other X factors that
24:55
Speaker 2: are going to be key for them are which way
24:57
Speaker 2: is the wind blowing at Wrigley Fields. It's blowing out,
25:00
Speaker 2: and they can take advantage of some of their power
25:02
Speaker 2: that they've been having recently. They have a chance to
25:04
Speaker 2: put up some runs if the winds blowing in and
25:06
Speaker 2: this becomes a low scoring game. The Potters have had
25:09
Speaker 2: a lot of games this year of three runs, two runs,
25:11
Speaker 2: one run, and while they're very good in one and
25:13
Speaker 2: two run games, again, at a certain point your bullpen
25:16
Speaker 2: does wear down, and Mike shil doesn't want to have
25:19
Speaker 2: to go to that unit too early. I think the
25:22
Speaker 2: other X factor to watch for here is Freddy for
25:24
Speaker 2: me and the Potters catcher and here's why Nick Pavetta
25:27
Speaker 2: will get the ball in Game one. Elias Diaz has
25:29
Speaker 2: been his catcher the entire year. Diaz was his starting
25:32
Speaker 2: catcher every single game that Pavetta took them ount this season.
25:36
Speaker 2: Diaz suffered noblaque injury on a swing over the final
25:39
Speaker 2: week in the season, so he's out, so Freddy for
25:42
Speaker 2: me and will be catching Nick Pavetta for the first
25:45
Speaker 2: time in his life. These two have never paired together
25:48
Speaker 2: in Game one of the playoff series. And the other
25:50
Speaker 2: part of this too is Nick Pavetta is super talented,
25:53
Speaker 2: but going back to his Red Sox days, he can
25:55
Speaker 2: get amped up, he can start overthrowing. It's really really
25:58
Speaker 2: important to have a catcher that can keep him on tempo,
26:01
Speaker 2: keep them calm, and just because Freddy Forman has never
26:05
Speaker 2: caught him before, I'm gonna be really curious to see
26:07
Speaker 2: that dynamic. That's really really key because if Nick Pivetta
26:11
Speaker 2: is off his game, realistically, it's going to be very,
26:15
Speaker 2: very very hard for the Potters to win this series.
26:17
Speaker 2: They really do need to win with Paveta on the
26:19
Speaker 2: mountain game one, because you just can't really trust what
26:23
Speaker 2: CeCILL give you in game two and darvishill give you
26:25
Speaker 2: in game three enough to say, oh yeah, they can
26:27
Speaker 2: win back to back games with those two starting. You
26:29
Speaker 2: really need to get Game one so how Freddy for
26:32
Speaker 2: me and Nick Pivetta, gel is going to be huge
26:34
Speaker 2: for the Potters.
26:36
Speaker 4: Kyle, I'm gonna build off one of your X factors
26:38
Speaker 4: because I agree that Wrigley Field for both teams is
26:41
Speaker 4: just going to be a character in this series.
26:44
Speaker 3: That the sun, it's the wind.
26:49
Speaker 4: Side of When you mentioned Saya playing right field, I
26:51
Speaker 4: just had flashbacks to him, like dropping a ball out
26:55
Speaker 4: in the right field thinking of the Hobby Baia's basket
26:59
Speaker 4: home run Johnny Quato, I think that was Game one
27:03
Speaker 4: of the twenty sixteen World Series run. Just the cubby
27:08
Speaker 4: occurrences and stuff like that. And as someone who you know,
27:13
Speaker 4: I did the West Coast trip in April, and I
27:16
Speaker 4: saw what Petco Park was like, I mean, sellout crowds
27:19
Speaker 4: like you. Cubs players were talking about it like you
27:21
Speaker 4: can't find a better atmosphere in the middle of April
27:24
Speaker 4: than what pet.
27:24
Speaker 3: Coo Park was.
27:26
Speaker 4: I and the Cubs getting avoiding that is nice for
27:30
Speaker 4: the Cubs. And then you just kind of see how
27:32
Speaker 4: I don't know, Manny Machado seems to enjoy playing the
27:35
Speaker 4: villain at times. I don't think it'll bother him, but
27:37
Speaker 4: just the you know it depending on how the Cubs start, Like,
27:41
Speaker 4: is a crowd gonna really get into it? Is it
27:43
Speaker 4: gonna fall silent?
27:45
Speaker 5: Like?
27:45
Speaker 4: How are players who like Pek Armstrong, who haven't been
27:48
Speaker 4: in the playoffs before, how are they gonna respond to
27:51
Speaker 4: that energy? I think that is what will be fun
27:55
Speaker 4: to watch from up in the press box for sure.
27:58
Speaker 2: And I think an important point too regarding that is
28:01
Speaker 2: this Potter's team has been a very different team at
28:03
Speaker 2: home versus on the road. Potters we'th thirty eight and
28:06
Speaker 2: forty three on the road this year. That's the tide.
28:09
Speaker 2: I should say, it's tied for the worst road record
28:11
Speaker 2: of any team in the playoffs with the Reds, who
28:13
Speaker 2: barely snuck in. And the biggest reason why is that
28:16
Speaker 2: pitching staff. The Pottery's era on the road is a
28:19
Speaker 2: full run higher than it is at home, and that's
28:22
Speaker 2: driven by their starter struggles on the road. Their ops
28:25
Speaker 2: at Homan on the road is actually the exact same.
28:27
Speaker 2: You talk about Peco Park being pitcher friendly, which it is,
28:30
Speaker 2: but they have an identical seven to eleven ops at
28:32
Speaker 2: Homan on the road. It's really about their starting pitching.
28:35
Speaker 2: That's why they lose so many more games on the ropes.
28:37
Speaker 2: It's just not as effective. And the other part of it, too,
28:39
Speaker 2: is this is a Potterys team that really really rides
28:43
Speaker 2: the emotional wave. Manny Machado, Fernano Tepatist Junior. These are
28:47
Speaker 2: guys when they have Petco Park behind them and everything's rolling,
28:50
Speaker 2: they play with an electricity that is hard to find
28:52
Speaker 2: anywhere else in Major League Baseball and is a direct
28:54
Speaker 2: reason why the Padres their Their winning percentage at home
28:57
Speaker 2: is equivalent to a one hundred and four win team.
29:00
Speaker 2: They're winning percentage on the road is equivalent to a
29:02
Speaker 2: seventy six win team. When they don't have that at
29:04
Speaker 2: their backs, the same energy and intensity and focus isn't
29:08
Speaker 2: always there. So I do think that is going to
29:10
Speaker 2: be an X factor here too, is you know, do
29:13
Speaker 2: the Padres come out with the same energy they would
29:16
Speaker 2: at Pecko because this is a postseason game, Because there's
29:19
Speaker 2: been a lot of times on the road where you know,
29:20
Speaker 2: they look great at Peco as they did to finish
29:22
Speaker 2: the season. They want seven to eight and looked as
29:24
Speaker 2: good as they have all year, but then they've gone
29:26
Speaker 2: on the road and fall completely flat. We've seen that
29:28
Speaker 2: movie over and over. This season. So I think that
29:31
Speaker 2: is one other big, big X factor here, how the
29:33
Speaker 2: starting pitchers do on the road, and then, of course
29:36
Speaker 2: do they come out with the same energy and intensity
29:38
Speaker 2: just because frankly, they haven't really done that.
29:41
Speaker 1: And if Wrigley is blowing in, if the wind is
29:44
Speaker 1: blowing in at Wrigly, this Cubs team is a great
29:46
Speaker 1: base running teams. Diaz is someone that could control the
29:51
Speaker 1: running game. Him being out, I think it is a
29:53
Speaker 1: factor there, don't I don't know enough about for me
29:56
Speaker 1: and to know how good he is. But the Cubs
29:58
Speaker 1: are They're a really strong base running team. It was
30:02
Speaker 1: an emphasis in the offseason. They've won games because of it.
30:07
Speaker 1: Early in the season they took advantage of it because
30:10
Speaker 1: it was Wrigley was just death to fly balls and
30:15
Speaker 1: they had to and you know, the right people have
30:19
Speaker 1: to get on base. Peaker Armstrong has to get on base.
30:21
Speaker 1: Nico Horner needs to get on base to take advantage
30:23
Speaker 1: of those base running skills that they have. But this
30:27
Speaker 1: is a good team that can change the game, change
30:31
Speaker 1: a change an inning because they swipe a bag, or
30:35
Speaker 1: they they screw up the other team's defense because they
30:39
Speaker 1: can't get that out that they should have.
30:40
Speaker 5: Gotten because someone hustled.
30:44
Speaker 1: It. They've changed a lot of games and they've won
30:46
Speaker 1: a lot of games because of that.
30:48
Speaker 5: We'll see if it's a factor.
30:50
Speaker 1: I think if the wind is blowing in, they'll try
30:52
Speaker 1: to make it a factor because it's hard to I mean,
30:55
Speaker 1: this is a slugging team too, so if the wind
30:58
Speaker 1: is blowing in, they have to manufacture.
31:00
Speaker 5: They have to find a way to score runs.
31:02
Speaker 1: Uh, because the long ball will be hard at Wrigley
31:05
Speaker 1: is just so such a huge factor Patrick here, so
31:08
Speaker 1: right that like the it's it's going to We're going
31:11
Speaker 1: to go to the park.
31:12
Speaker 5: On Tuesday and look at the flags.
31:14
Speaker 1: It's the first thing I always do as I'm walking
31:17
Speaker 1: to the ballpark because it tells me so much about
31:22
Speaker 1: that day.
31:22
Speaker 5: It's just a huge, huge factor.
31:24
Speaker 1: Probably bigger than yeah, I would I can't think of
31:28
Speaker 1: a bigger factor at least wind wise in baseball. Uh,
31:32
Speaker 1: you know, Corsefield obviously changes games, but uh, the wind
31:36
Speaker 1: just doesn't impact games like that now that Candlestick's gone.
31:41
Speaker 1: So it's it's just such a huge part of the game.
31:46
Speaker 1: All right, I think we're good there. Does anyone have
31:48
Speaker 1: anything else they want to add? Should we should we
31:50
Speaker 1: give predictions here. I'm gonna I'll give my prediction. I'm
31:54
Speaker 1: saying Cubs in three. I think we're we're we're going
31:57
Speaker 1: to keep working. Patrick, I could see grumpiness on your face.
32:03
Speaker 3: You know I'm playing this both.
32:04
Speaker 4: I'm saving material in case there's a Brewer's game, a
32:08
Speaker 4: Brewers series, so.
32:10
Speaker 3: Like, I'm all set for that.
32:11
Speaker 4: Driving to Milwaukee Milwaukee Cup series would be fun. But
32:16
Speaker 4: I don't know the way Kyle's talking about the Padres
32:19
Speaker 4: bullpen like it's scary.
32:21
Speaker 5: That's that's scary that.
32:22
Speaker 4: I think was great for our listeners to kind of
32:24
Speaker 4: brace themselves for that game over show that Kyle mentioned.
32:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I need to correct myself. Potters are sixty
32:30
Speaker 2: three and five when leading after six, not sixty so
32:33
Speaker 2: still ridiculous, still scary. Yeah, that's the way, Patrick, What
32:38
Speaker 2: is your prediction? Are you going out?
32:41
Speaker 3: I'll go with Padres to be the contrarian.
32:44
Speaker 2: Okay, how many, but not.
32:46
Speaker 3: With any sort of confidence. I think I think it
32:48
Speaker 3: goes three.
32:49
Speaker 4: And I just in kind of listening to you and
32:52
Speaker 4: talking to other people, I feel like all of these
32:55
Speaker 4: teams were sort of dragging towards the finish line. Like,
32:58
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's making any predict with any confidence.
33:01
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are just tired of
33:03
Speaker 4: the teams that they're working for. Watching as fans, it's
33:08
Speaker 4: just kind of like such a long season, such a grind.
33:11
Speaker 4: No one really separated themselves, putting the Dodgers in that category.
33:14
Speaker 4: I think the Brewers scare anyone. The Phillies are a
33:18
Speaker 4: little you know, not at quite at full strength. So
33:22
Speaker 4: you know, any of these predictions, we have to do
33:23
Speaker 4: these for the athletic as well. I think everyone's just
33:26
Speaker 4: sort of like checking a box and have no idea
33:29
Speaker 4: what it's Absolutely.
33:30
Speaker 2: I'm with you in that. I go back and forth
33:33
Speaker 2: on this series so much because I can see a
33:36
Speaker 2: viable scenario where every potential outcome, Like yeah, I could
33:40
Speaker 2: see that pottery Sweet Potters and three cups, sweep Cups
33:42
Speaker 2: and three all of those are very realistic to me.
33:44
Speaker 2: I think these are two very evenly matched teams that
33:47
Speaker 2: do a lot of the same things. Well, you mentioned
33:49
Speaker 2: the defense base running fundamentally down. Pats are gonna hate
33:54
Speaker 2: me for this. I just have a hard time. I've
33:57
Speaker 2: seen this movie too many times where the Poppies look
33:59
Speaker 2: great at home and they just fall completely flat on
34:02
Speaker 2: the road. And also, I have a hard time saying, yes,
34:06
Speaker 2: I trust Dylan cease and potentially you darbish to give
34:10
Speaker 2: the Padres good road starts on back to back days.
34:14
Speaker 2: I just have a hard time pulling the trigger on that.
34:17
Speaker 2: And so for that reason, I'm gonna go Cubs in
34:20
Speaker 2: three again. I wouldn't say if the Potters win, I
34:25
Speaker 2: would call it an upset. I know the Cubs, the
34:27
Speaker 2: higher seed, they have more wins, they're at home. You know,
34:30
Speaker 2: if the Reds beat the Dodgers, that is a massive upset.
34:32
Speaker 2: I just don't see a scenario when that happens. It
34:34
Speaker 2: would shock me. The Potters beat the Cubs, it wouldn't
34:37
Speaker 2: shock me. I think it's very viable. I just again,
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Speaker 2: I've just seen this movie too many times of Dylan
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Speaker 2: ces and you Darvish on the road getting blown, giving
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Speaker 2: six or seven, giving up six or seven runs in
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Speaker 2: the first three innings. And this Potter's offense. While we
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Speaker 2: talked about some of their guys are you know, kind
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Speaker 2: of hitting their stride, this offense is not explosive enough
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Speaker 2: to come back from those six seven run deficits. They
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Speaker 2: need to keep games within a run or two to
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Speaker 2: really have a chance to come back. So that's why
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Speaker 2: I'm going clubs in three podres, track record on the
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Speaker 2: road and see some Tarbash's struggles.
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Speaker 1: Makes it, I mean, I agree that I like, I
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Speaker 1: have no clue what's gonna happens. It's really hard to predict.
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Speaker 1: This one very evenly matched. All right, Thanks so much
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