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- 0:02Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December nineteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours
- 0:11Speaker 1: and now Santa's lesser known tenth Reindeer, Kevin J. P.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Checkrick, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is
- 0:22Speaker 2: Week sixteen. It is Thursday. We've got a busy two
- 0:25Speaker 2: hours ahead here on Jaguars Radio. First, it's Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 0:31Speaker 2: It's Week sixteen. We'll get to the game that America
- 0:33Speaker 2: has been waiting for, the Jaguars and the Raiders coming
- 0:36Speaker 2: up from Allegiance Stadium to four to twenty five Eastern
- 0:39Speaker 2: kickoff time. Jaguars youth getting some playing time, and some
- 0:44Speaker 2: significant numbers could be in the cards for Brian Thomas
- 0:48Speaker 2: Junior with a strong outing this week. Baptist Health injury report,
- 0:52Speaker 2: we'll get that to you when it comes down the line.
- 0:54Speaker 2: And the Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock on the
- 0:57Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network, we'll have the head coach in studio
- 1:00Speaker 2: with us. We'll get his thoughts on the week that was,
- 1:03Speaker 2: coming off the loss to the Jets and looking ahead
- 1:07Speaker 2: to the Las Vegas Raiders on holiday weekend, the weekend
- 1:11Speaker 2: before Christmas, long trip out to Vegas coming up. We're
- 1:15Speaker 2: on tentinexl AM ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com,
- 1:19Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman, Good afternoons, Hey
- 1:24Speaker 2: on JP. I'm well, I'm better than the Jags are
- 1:27Speaker 2: right now. Unfortunately it's three to eleven. Another loss last week,
- 1:32Speaker 2: one score game, blown coverages.
- 1:34Speaker 3: That's what I was worried about in that game, and
- 1:37Speaker 3: I think we actually talked about it here and that look,
- 1:39Speaker 3: you got a Tennessee football team that couldn't take advantage
- 1:43Speaker 3: of the mistakes that you had. And then we had
- 1:46Speaker 3: said that if you make those same mistakes against Aaron Rodgers,
- 1:50Speaker 3: he's gonna expose you. And that's exactly what happened. I mean,
- 1:54Speaker 3: the defense loses a game again. I mean that's because
- 1:58Speaker 3: they're just they're not clean. They're not assignment clean. And
- 2:02Speaker 3: if you can't be assignment clean, it's hard to win
- 2:04Speaker 3: football game.
- 2:05Speaker 2: They were pretty good for like, you know, fifty minutes
- 2:08Speaker 2: of the game, the first fifty, it was the final
- 2:10Speaker 2: ten last time I checked, the game goes for sixty minutes.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Not good. But that's the story of this season. Missed
- 2:16Speaker 2: opportunities and key moments, mainly on defense. A lot of
- 2:19Speaker 2: times on offense too. They can they can't get things
- 2:22Speaker 2: done in a big moment late sometimes this year. But
- 2:25Speaker 2: that's just the story of the Jags team this season.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Well, and look had a chance to do something there
- 2:30Speaker 3: at the end of the ball game, and you throw
- 2:32Speaker 3: an interception on a down and distance that did not
- 2:35Speaker 3: require you to force the ball into a situation that
- 2:38Speaker 3: the ball never should have been forced into, you know, So,
- 2:42Speaker 3: I mean I kind of blame the defense, but then
- 2:44Speaker 3: again I blame the offense as well, and I also
- 2:47Speaker 3: blame special team. Special teams gave up a fake punt
- 2:51Speaker 3: that have kept the drive alive for the New York
- 2:53Speaker 3: Jets early in the ballgame that led directly to a
- 2:56Speaker 3: touchdown and close, really close to stopping that play from happening.
- 3:03Speaker 3: But you had just a little bit too tight of
- 3:06Speaker 3: an alignment on the outside and not a whole lot
- 3:09Speaker 3: of awareness by anybody else. Chadmuoma is the outside guy,
- 3:14Speaker 3: got a little tight, gets reached, almost makes the tackle,
- 3:18Speaker 3: but almost doesn't count unless you're playing horseshoes.
- 3:22Speaker 2: That's about it. Yeah, it's the only thing that I
- 3:24Speaker 2: don't ever want to play. The second one I don't either.
- 3:26Speaker 2: I'm not really there's a fake punt right there and
- 3:29Speaker 2: watch it on Jaguars dot Com. Pretty amazing hurdle there
- 3:33Speaker 2: at the end of the game, and Chad MoMA almost
- 3:35Speaker 2: has them. And I mean, this is the kind of
- 3:37Speaker 2: thing though that you've got to be aware of. And
- 3:40Speaker 2: I think they were, because I'm Jaguars probably had a
- 3:43Speaker 2: couple fakes under there built as well, or they have
- 3:46Speaker 2: probably one in playbostueks just in case they see them. Probably,
- 3:49Speaker 2: but I would bet that in a game like that,
- 3:52Speaker 2: because it's against the Jets, it's home game, you're eliminating
- 3:55Speaker 2: from the playoffs, why not have a couple maybe a
- 3:58Speaker 2: couple punt fakes, maybe a fake field goal, maybe some
- 4:04Speaker 2: kind of trick punt return or.
- 4:07Speaker 3: I mean just something. I mean, you know, look, all
- 4:10Speaker 3: bets are off. Your mathematically eliminated.
- 4:13Speaker 2: What's there to lose. You can't surprise onside kick anymore?
- 4:17Speaker 2: Another game, right, yeah, I mean there's only three games
- 4:19Speaker 2: left to lose, so I mean, you lose another game. Okay,
- 4:22Speaker 2: well you lost another game, so we'll see what happens
- 4:25Speaker 2: with that. Moving ahead, of course, Hey, the Jaguars lost
- 4:29Speaker 2: another one. They've got three to go, and and this
- 4:31Speaker 2: is the challenge of this late in the season that's
- 4:35Speaker 2: like this, It's the weekend before Christmas. It's a West
- 4:38Speaker 2: coast road trip to the Pacific time zone in Las Vegas.
- 4:42Speaker 2: A lot of distractions. Did you say Las Vegas? Is
- 4:45Speaker 2: that not a distraction right there? It could be for
- 4:48Speaker 2: some right, So you got to make sure that's not
- 4:51Speaker 2: a distraction. Families are coming into town. You got to
- 4:54Speaker 2: have the blackout curtains that have that like sound dampening
- 4:59Speaker 2: material maybe when you're stay there. I don't know, Yeah,
- 5:02Speaker 2: I don't know. But everything's going on outside of football
- 5:06Speaker 2: around the football team starting this weekend with families coming in.
- 5:09Speaker 2: The Jags are home next week after Christmas. There will
- 5:12Speaker 2: be a lot of people pulling on players' time and
- 5:16Speaker 2: how as a coach and as a staff do you
- 5:18Speaker 2: make sure everybody maintains maintains their focus. So we've seen
- 5:21Speaker 2: games like this logs late in seasons. Twenty seventeen comes
- 5:24Speaker 2: to mind. Jaguars a clinch, they go to San Francisco
- 5:27Speaker 2: the weekend before Christmas, get blown out.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Well, you've just described something that I mean, every person
- 5:33Speaker 3: on the planet is going through around the Christmas holidays, right,
- 5:36Speaker 3: I mean Look, it's it's real and it's nothing unique
- 5:40Speaker 3: to players, you know. So look, people are able to
- 5:43Speaker 3: stay focused on their work and job, and why can't
- 5:47Speaker 3: players do that? The one difference is is that football
- 5:50Speaker 3: players have a little different physical requirement to their job.
- 5:55Speaker 3: So you need to make sure that you take care
- 5:57Speaker 3: of the body, get the proper risk, the proper diet.
- 6:00Speaker 4: You know.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Holiday cookies and milk like I do when we just
- 6:05Speaker 2: had some in studio early.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know. They're really good though. It's
- 6:10Speaker 3: very easy to eat holiday cookies. I mean, put them
- 6:12Speaker 3: in front of it. Give me a good holiday sugar
- 6:15Speaker 3: cookie or one of Tammy's oatmeal raisin cookies or one
- 6:18Speaker 3: of my wife's Miss Jewel Hunter cookie recipe. Oh my goodness,
- 6:23Speaker 3: I don't even need.
- 6:24Speaker 2: To have them in those shapes, you know, like a
- 6:26Speaker 2: bell or a star or a Christmas tree, in any
- 6:29Speaker 2: form you want.
- 6:29Speaker 3: I don't need the extra sugar on top. Just give
- 6:32Speaker 3: me a straight good cookie.
- 6:34Speaker 2: But you got to get these guys to power through that,
- 6:38Speaker 2: and there's three games to go and stay somehow. It's
- 6:41Speaker 2: football man Breton Strain said, you know they're football players.
- 6:43Speaker 2: It's what they do. You know, they play ball. They
- 6:45Speaker 2: love ball.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Look, I think this team's for the most part is
- 6:50Speaker 3: I don't want to say they've played smart, but I mean,
- 6:52Speaker 3: for the most part, they played hard. There are certain
- 6:55Speaker 3: games and I didn't think that the effort was very good.
- 6:57Speaker 3: I didn't think the game against Detroit was very good.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Game against Buffalo was very good. Didn't think the effort
- 7:03Speaker 3: against Chicago.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Was very good. The home opener wasn't great. But lately
- 7:08Speaker 2: I think that they've been playing pretty hard, and I
- 7:11Speaker 2: give them credit because it's not easy to play hard
- 7:15Speaker 2: at this juncture of the season, and also when you're
- 7:18Speaker 2: eliminated from it all ladies, join us at EverBank Stadium Sunday,
- 7:23Speaker 2: December twenty ninth, ten am to twelve pm for the
- 7:26Speaker 2: lively and fun Field Glitz and Blitz Brunch. Enjoyed delicious pastries,
- 7:32Speaker 2: refreshing Mimosa's, and a special appearance by The Roar and
- 7:36Speaker 2: a Jags legend. Grab your tickets out Jaguars dot Com Slash.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Glitz and the Blitz be a great stocking stuffer for
- 7:43Speaker 2: a significant other things. Yeah, you're trying to look at
- 7:46Speaker 2: you say. Second, did you say Bloody Mary's or just Mimos?
- 7:48Speaker 2: Mimosas they might have Bloody Mary's too. I don't. I didn't.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I don't write them. I just read them, so who knows.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Kind of like Bloody Mary's way. We've had this conversation,
- 8:00Speaker 2: so we have it said. You brought it up again,
- 8:01Speaker 2: so I'm bringing it up again as well. So you're
- 8:04Speaker 2: not gonna go. I told him last week, give me
- 8:06Speaker 2: a bacon stick in a bloody right, the ones that's
- 8:09Speaker 2: like a straw. We did have this conversation last week.
- 8:11Speaker 2: I knew it was the show had to be forgetting.
- 8:14Speaker 2: You forgot for a minute, didn't you. It took me
- 8:15Speaker 2: a second.
- 8:16Speaker 5: I know.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I've talked about this with somebody. The bacon straw in
- 8:20Speaker 2: this seat last week? All right? Mac Jones last week
- 8:23Speaker 2: two touchdowns as a starter for the first time for
- 8:25Speaker 2: the Jaguars. It was better two picks though or whatever.
- 8:29Speaker 3: He was better how well, first of all, he he
- 8:34Speaker 3: didn't change the play and keep the ball away from
- 8:36Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior and stick with the play and make
- 8:39Speaker 3: sure you throw it to Brian Thomas Junior. He did
- 8:41Speaker 3: a good job of that. I think they did a
- 8:43Speaker 3: very good job of that. Just as an offense, they
- 8:45Speaker 3: got Brian Thomas. I think it was on the fourth
- 8:47Speaker 3: play of the game offensively anyway, and then again on
- 8:50Speaker 3: the sixth he had a key third down conversion. Very
- 8:53Speaker 3: surprised about how the Jets treated him. They didn't treat
- 8:56Speaker 3: him like he was a special player and gets Aft
- 9:00Speaker 3: Gardner onto him until kind of later in the ball
- 9:02Speaker 3: game when it was a little bit.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Too late as far as that was concerned. But I
- 9:06Speaker 2: thought Mac did a good job of getting the ball
- 9:08Speaker 2: to him. Uh, you know, he's still got some things
- 9:11Speaker 2: that he's got to get better at. Like the one
- 9:13Speaker 2: thing that he did I was scratching my head about.
- 9:16Speaker 2: He took a sack and he goes to the sideline
- 9:20Speaker 2: and he's just standing there and he's in bounds. He
- 9:22Speaker 2: literally could have gotten smoked legally because he was a
- 9:26Speaker 2: ball carrier at that time. And when he when he
- 9:28Speaker 2: runs out to the side and he just stands there,
- 9:30Speaker 2: it's like, dude, what are you doing? And and he's
- 9:33Speaker 2: looking at the defensive lineman like wait a minute. They're
- 9:36Speaker 2: talking back and forth like and Kilos said, say, hey,
- 9:39Speaker 2: don hey, the guy, dumb guy, he just gave us
- 9:42Speaker 2: a sack. That's not what you were gonna say I
- 9:43Speaker 2: was gonna say, dumb dunk. That's not what you're gonna say,
- 9:46Speaker 2: but you can't do that.
- 9:48Speaker 3: And then Doug Peterson, i think after the game or Monday,
- 9:51Speaker 3: said well, it didn't hurt us anything.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Well, sure it did. Yeah, it did because it moved
- 9:55Speaker 2: you back and it took you out of an easier
- 9:56Speaker 2: opportunity I putting it in the end zone, you know. So, oh,
- 10:00Speaker 2: yes it hurt. But yeah, very confused on that play,
- 10:05Speaker 2: you know. And when he said it didn't hur him,
- 10:06Speaker 2: I'm sure he meant, well, we still got a field
- 10:07Speaker 2: goal out of that three point but look, that was
- 10:09Speaker 2: a second down play, you know, a third down instead
- 10:12Speaker 2: of taking a loss of basically five or six yards.
- 10:15Speaker 2: You know, you're within much easier distance. It's much harder
- 10:19Speaker 2: on a defense to defend from five yards away as
- 10:21Speaker 2: opposed to ten or eleven yards away. So do Yeah,
- 10:25Speaker 2: that was a very odd decision that the first interception
- 10:29Speaker 2: that he threw was essentially equal to a punt, which
- 10:33Speaker 2: from that standpoint, okay, didn't cast it well, but if
- 10:37Speaker 2: he throws the ball more to the outside, gives this
- 10:41Speaker 2: guy an opportunity.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Okay, well, maybe your guy makes a play or you
- 10:44Speaker 3: get a PI or you get a PI or you
- 10:47Speaker 3: know whatever. But and if the guy makes the interception
- 10:50Speaker 3: on a good play, okay, good play, but don't allow
- 10:55Speaker 3: him to make a good play when you throw the
- 10:56Speaker 3: ball more towards the middle where you shouldn't throw it.
- 10:59Speaker 3: And then the interception late in the ball game. Again,
- 11:02Speaker 3: it was it was a very short yardage situation to
- 11:06Speaker 3: where just dump it into the middle, move the chains
- 11:08Speaker 3: and let's line up and play another down instead of
- 11:11Speaker 3: throwing the ball into cover three, which that's the design
- 11:15Speaker 3: of the play they had on that particular side, was
- 11:17Speaker 3: for against cover two, and they you know, look, Sauce
- 11:22Speaker 3: Gardner didn't bite on it. One wasn't one bit. He
- 11:24Speaker 3: didn't have to because he was a deep third player
- 11:28Speaker 3: and Mac read that one wrong. And you know, but
- 11:32Speaker 3: the good thing is he's getting better. And yeah, look
- 11:34Speaker 3: we all want him to get better. Number one, he's
- 11:35Speaker 3: a he's a local.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Guy, you know, raised here, bulls kid, all that stuff.
- 11:40Speaker 2: But look, the better he plays, the bigger the contract
- 11:42Speaker 2: he gets somewhere else, the better the compensatory pick for
- 11:46Speaker 2: the Jaguars especially good absolutely, yeah, you play better these
- 11:51Speaker 2: three games down the stretch. You never know in the
- 11:53Speaker 2: offseason what could happen.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Look, well, first of all, you play better for the team.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Number one, you help everybody else around you better, which
- 12:00Speaker 3: allows them to make more money for guys that have
- 12:03Speaker 3: contracts coming up. Okay, and that's, by the way, that's
- 12:06Speaker 3: pretty important. And then again, also he gets a better contract,
- 12:11Speaker 3: which gives you a better compensatory pick and return, because look,
- 12:13Speaker 3: you gave something up for him in that trade, and
- 12:17Speaker 3: the whole purpose of that, for the most part, was
- 12:19Speaker 3: to get something on the back end return.
- 12:21Speaker 2: He doesn't lack for confidence on the field, I'll say that.
- 12:25Speaker 2: And energy, I guess is kind of energy. Yeah. Sure,
- 12:29Speaker 2: but he's having fun out there, and I appreciate that
- 12:31Speaker 2: part of it. I just want him to play better,
- 12:34Speaker 2: you know, play better his offensive line. And here's the reality.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Offensive line has been playing good. I mean, offensive line's
- 12:41Speaker 2: given him a chance running games, giving them a chance.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Yeah last week it did. Yeah, not had been consistent,
- 12:47Speaker 2: but look, I mean for the last couple of weeks,
- 12:49Speaker 2: has been pretty good, you know, I mean Tennessee, Uh, okay,
- 12:54Speaker 2: the Houston game, I thought it was pretty good against Houston,
- 12:58Speaker 2: you know, after they Trevor and Al Shaier takes him
- 13:02Speaker 2: out of the ball game. The Jaguars leaned on the
- 13:05Speaker 2: running game, and the running game was good. I think
- 13:07Speaker 2: since that point they have played very well up front
- 13:11Speaker 2: and Walker Little's played well. Offensive line has settled down,
- 13:15Speaker 2: even Anton Harrison has increased the level of his play
- 13:18Speaker 2: to where he's playing better. So they're giving him a
- 13:20Speaker 2: chance up front. And got some pretty good wide receivers
- 13:24Speaker 2: because you know, even though you've got some guys that
- 13:26Speaker 2: are on injured reserve, the reality is Parker Washington's a
- 13:29Speaker 2: good player. Brian Thomas junior exceptional player, Brenton Strange taking
- 13:34Speaker 2: the place of Evan Ingram. He's pretty damn good. So far,
- 13:37Speaker 2: so good, pretty damn good. Some more. But yes, I agree,
- 13:40Speaker 2: you know, so keep playing. I mean, even though it's
- 13:44Speaker 2: a it's a depleted opportunity somewhat because of some of
- 13:47Speaker 2: the guys you lost. Look, I mean, you got you
- 13:49Speaker 2: got some good players out there. Now, come on, let's
- 13:52Speaker 2: come back in a moment and take a look at
- 13:55Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders and a battle of rookie catchers
- 14:00Speaker 2: that are one and two in the league in yardage
- 14:03Speaker 2: this year as rookies. This is the big sale of
- 14:07Speaker 2: the game or the cell. Yes, cell, I know, and
- 14:11Speaker 2: when we come back.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Yes, there's a little thing that the league puts out
- 14:17Speaker 3: and we want to kind of compare logo graphics to
- 14:22Speaker 3: meat and potatoes storyline.
- 14:24Speaker 2: That'll bring him in logs that's coming back. It's to
- 14:28Speaker 2: excel AM ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com
- 14:32Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Great player,
- 14:49Speaker 2: good young player.
- 14:51Speaker 5: Just his ability to separate, get open obviously, you know,
- 14:55Speaker 5: using him the right way and just making place for him,
- 14:58Speaker 5: you know, and he's a he's a dynamic tight.
- 15:01Speaker 2: End, said coach Doug Peterson earlier this week discussing brock Bowers,
- 15:05Speaker 2: the rookie tight end for the Las Vegas Raiders. Welcome back.
- 15:10Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on tenon XL ninety two
- 15:13Speaker 2: point five FM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
- 15:17Speaker 4: J P.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logman. We're at the Hyundai studios at
- 15:21Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center ahead of Week sixteen the Jaguars
- 15:25Speaker 2: and the Raiders, and brock Bowers is the leading receiver
- 15:30Speaker 2: for the Las Vegas Raiders and the leading rookie receiver
- 15:35Speaker 2: in all of the NFL receptions wise, receiving yards and
- 15:40Speaker 2: receptions wise, Brock Bowers nine hundred and sixty eight receiving yards,
- 15:44Speaker 2: most of any rookie in the NFL this year. Of course,
- 15:46Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Jr. At nine p fifty six is right
- 15:49Speaker 2: there on his heels, and that will be the selling
- 15:52Speaker 2: point of this game.
- 15:55Speaker 3: And they're really good players, and they're both fun watch,
- 15:57Speaker 3: and both of them are a little shy. I have
- 16:00Speaker 3: a thousand yards. I would expect in this game that
- 16:02Speaker 3: the both of them willy clips at Bowers thirty two
- 16:05Speaker 3: yards needed. Brian Thomas Junior he needs forty four. For
- 16:08Speaker 3: these guys hit a thousand, and Bowers is going for
- 16:12Speaker 3: a much bigger goal, which is surpassing Mike Dicka's record
- 16:17Speaker 3: that still stands for a rookie tight end and receiving yards,
- 16:21Speaker 3: which is crazy to think it's lasted that.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Long nineteen sixty one. Mike Dicka one thousand and seventy
- 16:28Speaker 2: six receiving yards. I thought he was a coach for
- 16:30Speaker 2: the Bears. I didn't know he was a player. Okay, yeah, yess,
- 16:35Speaker 2: he certainly was for a long time. Bowers still has
- 16:38Speaker 2: to pass Kyle Pitts of Atlanta in twenty twenty one
- 16:40Speaker 2: also had one thy twenty six yards. We'll pass that up.
- 16:43Speaker 2: That should be and it's like a big game, a
- 16:45Speaker 2: little over one hundred yards away from Mike Dicka. Yeah.
- 16:47Speaker 3: The other thing too, the reality is is that his
- 16:50Speaker 3: ninety catches that he has broke the rookie receiving rookie
- 16:54Speaker 3: tight end receptions record. The tight end receptions record in
- 17:00Speaker 3: a season is held by Zach Ertz, and he had
- 17:03Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen in a season. I remember Evan
- 17:07Speaker 3: Ingram was like two catches away from him. Yes, And
- 17:12Speaker 3: and also Bowers is chasing the rookie receptions record period
- 17:16Speaker 3: which Pukkua had that last year and he had one
- 17:21Speaker 3: hundred and five. So Bowers would need fifteen sixteen to
- 17:28Speaker 3: break that in the final three games, which I hope
- 17:30Speaker 3: that doesn't happen on Sunday. Now I'm just saying, is that. Look,
- 17:34Speaker 3: if I'm a quarterback for the Raiders, I'm throwing a
- 17:38Speaker 3: ball to Brock Bowers a lot.
- 17:40Speaker 2: How do you cover him? If you're this Jags defense,
- 17:42Speaker 2: you can plan all you want, you got to go
- 17:44Speaker 2: execute it. We know they haven't done that a lot
- 17:46Speaker 2: in big moments they've had big plays and missed assignments.
- 17:48Speaker 2: How do you cover brock Bowers? Well, it takes everybody.
- 17:52Speaker 3: I mean you're going to have safety unhimate times, a
- 17:54Speaker 3: linebacker onoma times. You're going to be doubling him bracket.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a zone, and so you just have to
- 18:00Speaker 3: be aware of where he is if you're playing in
- 18:02Speaker 3: his own But yeah, I mean he's a good football player.
- 18:08Speaker 3: You know, who would you like to match up with him?
- 18:10Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I mean, would you rather
- 18:14Speaker 3: have Devin Lloyd, Antonio Johnson, Foyer Louigan who I mean,
- 18:19Speaker 3: if you're covering a man, who.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Were you choosing? He's big too, That's the other thing.
- 18:25Speaker 3: He's got sixty pounds bout the size of Evan, Yeah,
- 18:29Speaker 3: but he little a little taller.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Maybe Evan's probably six to three, Yeah, you know Brock
- 18:34Speaker 2: bar six four. I mean, so just a little different
- 18:36Speaker 2: in height, you know, with the height, I mean Antonio
- 18:40Speaker 2: Johnson's big safety, right, I mean it's that's that's not
- 18:45Speaker 2: an easy decision. Do you put two guys on him? Now?
- 18:48Speaker 2: You try? I mean you'd like to write what are
- 18:51Speaker 2: the other options for the Vegas that would scary. But
- 18:54Speaker 2: here's the thing about doubling a tight end. Seriously, I mean,
- 18:59Speaker 2: if you're double on a tight end, I mean, is
- 19:03Speaker 2: he is he an explosive play waiting to happen? You
- 19:08Speaker 2: know what I mean? I mean, is he is he
- 19:09Speaker 2: gaining seventeen yards of catch? And is he a threat
- 19:13Speaker 2: to go to the distance with the speed? I mean
- 19:15Speaker 2: most tight ends are not that well. If he's open
- 19:19Speaker 2: for fifteen yards, so wide open, then probably he will
- 19:22Speaker 2: see that.
- 19:22Speaker 3: Would I would hope that he's not going to have
- 19:25Speaker 3: that kind of day. I mean, look at his yards
- 19:27Speaker 3: per catch ten point eight.
- 19:29Speaker 2: It's enough to move the sticks. He's better than Kelsey.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Kelsey's got his career low. Yeah, he's not doing sue
- 19:37Speaker 2: this year. It's been enough been uh you know, he's
- 19:40Speaker 2: been traveling the world, you know, on the concerts and stuff.
- 19:44Speaker 2: It was his lowest last year until the playoffs and
- 19:46Speaker 2: then he turned it on. He will turn it on again.
- 19:48Speaker 2: He's still a good football players.
- 19:50Speaker 3: Even though a lot of people are kind of criticizing
- 19:52Speaker 3: him because he has the lowest yards per catch in
- 19:56Speaker 3: his career. He's still catching a lot of balls and
- 19:59Speaker 3: he's still factor. And oh, by the way, Kansas City
- 20:02Speaker 3: is still really good because of him.
- 20:04Speaker 2: That's certainly part of it, no doubt about that. Hey,
- 20:06Speaker 2: what about the other side of things here, this Raiders defense.
- 20:11Speaker 2: No Max Crosby, he's done for the year. He's the
- 20:13Speaker 2: best player on the team overall, big loss, So he's done.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Kaylon chase On is out there. A couple of sacks
- 20:21Speaker 2: over the last three weeks and a tackle for loss
- 20:23Speaker 2: I think in four straight games. Now for Kaylevon getting
- 20:27Speaker 2: an opportunity at least to play a little more hard,
- 20:30Speaker 2: playing hard.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I mean he's the top end talent. No, he's a
- 20:36Speaker 3: veteran player that's been around the block a little bit.
- 20:37Speaker 3: It's got a little bit of athleticism, and he's got
- 20:39Speaker 3: an opportunity. But I can tell you this, he's no
- 20:43Speaker 3: Max Crossbeam. Max Crosby such a special player, and I
- 20:48Speaker 3: think he's got an ankle issue that he is scheduled
- 20:53Speaker 3: to have or did have surgery on.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Player that has a motor to No. He never leaves
- 20:59Speaker 2: the field, impressive every staff he plays. And I'm a
- 21:03Speaker 2: big fan of watching Max Crosby play the game. Love
- 21:08Speaker 2: love watching him. Sad to see him not available. You look,
- 21:12Speaker 2: even though a lot of people so, oh, well, that's
- 21:13Speaker 2: good for the Jaguars. Yeah, but also, man, that's good
- 21:16Speaker 2: for watching he's a great player. I mean, when you
- 21:18Speaker 2: get to see great players play, I mean, even if
- 21:20Speaker 2: it's on the other side of the field, it's it's awesome.
- 21:23Speaker 2: It's what you.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Play the game for is compete against the best players,
- 21:27Speaker 3: the great players, and you want to beat them at
- 21:29Speaker 3: their best. And unfortunately him not being out there keeps
- 21:33Speaker 3: them from being at their best. But that's one of
- 21:35Speaker 3: the reasons why kylebon Chazon has gott an opportunity. The
- 21:39Speaker 3: guy that I am kind of surprised that is not
- 21:42Speaker 3: playing better for the Raiders. I would have missed this pick.
- 21:47Speaker 3: Tyree Wilson from Texas Tech. I really liked him coming out,
- 21:51Speaker 3: thought he was big and strong and kind of freakishly athletic,
- 21:56Speaker 3: and watching him out there on the field, he's he's
- 21:59Speaker 3: just a guy. So for whatever reason, he hasn't panned out.
- 22:03Speaker 3: And they don't really have anybody else. I mean, the
- 22:05Speaker 3: defensive tackles are just kind of eh, so the.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Jacks should be able to run well. The one thing
- 22:11Speaker 2: I will say is that the Raiders just play hard.
- 22:14Speaker 2: They play hard.
- 22:15Speaker 3: The Falcons were able to do a pretty good job
- 22:17Speaker 3: on the ground against them. Falcons ran for one hundred
- 22:21Speaker 3: and sixty eight yards, but they stayed committed because Kirk
- 22:25Speaker 3: Cousins was so bad, so bad, and they were kind
- 22:27Speaker 3: of sleepwalking.
- 22:28Speaker 2: They couldn't put them away and Cousins was bad, and
- 22:30Speaker 2: like you know, even with all these block kicks that
- 22:33Speaker 2: the Falcons had in the game against them, they couldn't
- 22:35Speaker 2: break away. How about the Raiders getting Kirk Cousins put
- 22:39Speaker 2: to the bench right and probably moving on to another team.
- 22:43Speaker 2: They passed for ninety three yards in that game. Kirk
- 22:47Speaker 2: Cousins dead. It's a lot of money for ninety three yards.
- 22:50Speaker 2: That's not so good. Now they're not paying it, you know.
- 22:53Speaker 3: The Falcons are paying a bunch of money, guaranteed money.
- 22:56Speaker 3: So it's to Michael Pennox era in Atlanta.
- 23:00Speaker 2: So the Raiders did that to them, and they had
- 23:02Speaker 2: two shots of the end zone to the end Hail
- 23:04Speaker 2: Mary's at the end of the game. Well kept playing.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Look the Raiders defense, they play hard. The one thing
- 23:11Speaker 3: about that football team is that they've got a they've
- 23:13Speaker 3: got a ways to go to build that roster, to
- 23:16Speaker 3: build that team, and they don't have a quarterback by
- 23:20Speaker 3: the way. Okay, they started the year out with Gardner Minshew. Okay,
- 23:24Speaker 3: and if you think Gardner Minshew is going to be
- 23:25Speaker 3: your starting quarterback and you think you're going to have
- 23:28Speaker 3: success with him, you've made a huge mistake. And I
- 23:31Speaker 3: think it was just a stop gap situation where they
- 23:34Speaker 3: could bring him in knowing that they're going to have
- 23:38Speaker 3: to find a quarterback in the future. And Minshew got hurt,
- 23:43Speaker 3: which it's not like he was playing stellar football while
- 23:46Speaker 3: he was in there. Aidan O'Connell is now kind of
- 23:49Speaker 3: the guy that's expected to maybe start this week. This
- 23:52Speaker 3: past week it was not. It was the former Atlanta
- 23:55Speaker 3: Falcon cast off Desmond Ritter. And they three quarterbacks on
- 24:00Speaker 3: the roster right now. Since Minshew's on IR, the third
- 24:04Speaker 3: string quarterbacks has been that. This past game, he was
- 24:08Speaker 3: actually the number two. Jacksonville's very own Carter Bradley kid
- 24:14Speaker 3: Providence School.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Absolutely didn't get out there yet. I thought he was
- 24:18Speaker 2: gonna get in there. I was hoping he was going
- 24:20Speaker 2: to get a little little playtime. Yeah, of course, in
- 24:25Speaker 2: the Raiders are right there right now. I think they're
- 24:27Speaker 2: currently second in the draft order, but in projected strength
- 24:30Speaker 2: to schedule, they're number one in the draft order depending
- 24:33Speaker 2: on where you're looking this year. So I saw I'm
- 24:35Speaker 2: on the Giants right They're back and forth depending on
- 24:38Speaker 2: what service you kind of look at. Officially their number
- 24:41Speaker 2: two right now without the games being played. But there's
- 24:45Speaker 2: all these signs tanked for scheduor Sanders and all this stuff.
- 24:48Speaker 2: That's what we saw on Monday night at least, right,
- 24:51Speaker 2: So that's what the fans in Vegas are thinking about.
- 24:55Speaker 2: And then let's see the Jaguars at number four. We're
- 24:57Speaker 2: looking at the chart right now, Raiders are at one
- 25:00Speaker 2: or two, Giants are right there with them, New England
- 25:03Speaker 2: at three, Jacksonville at four. It's not so good that
- 25:08Speaker 2: it is not so good. So who would have thunk?
- 25:12Speaker 2: Not me? It is what it is. It is bad. So,
- 25:17Speaker 2: but looking forward to Vegas, not from the standpoint of
- 25:20Speaker 2: a lot of people like to go there and party
- 25:22Speaker 2: and gamble and all that. I'm not. I'm not a partier.
- 25:25Speaker 2: I'm not a gambler guy. But I like food. Okay,
- 25:29Speaker 2: I like food. So we're gonna have a nice dinner
- 25:31Speaker 2: while we're out there, find some good food. I'm excited
- 25:33Speaker 2: for you. Let's come back and get Kay Stevens involved
- 25:35Speaker 2: in this guy. And by the way, JP, they have
- 25:39Speaker 2: all kinds of rules about what you can and cannot
- 25:42Speaker 2: do in Vegas if you're working for an NFL team, correct,
- 25:45Speaker 2: you know. I thought a few years ago they were
- 25:47Speaker 2: opposed to Vegas and you couldn't do anything. I wonder
- 25:51Speaker 2: why there's a team there now, cutching, cutching the money,
- 25:57Speaker 2: follow the money. It's all about the money to sell.
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- 26:32Speaker 5: I think he can go one of two ways, right,
- 26:34Speaker 5: if they don't have if the players don't have that mindset,
- 26:37Speaker 5: or if I don't have that mindset, it's gonna set
- 26:39Speaker 5: you back even further. But if you come into it
- 26:41Speaker 5: and you embrace it, all right, Well, we know, we
- 26:43Speaker 5: know our situation. We got it, we understand that. But
- 26:46Speaker 5: I think these next three weeks really can set us
- 26:49Speaker 5: up for the future, for the offseason, for you know,
- 26:53Speaker 5: next year, and how we can build and where we
- 26:56Speaker 5: need to add pieces and all that kind of stuff,
- 26:57Speaker 5: the development of our roster. But having guys like Brenton
- 27:03Speaker 5: make those comments, I mean, those are the type of
- 27:05Speaker 5: players you want, right You want those football players that
- 27:08Speaker 5: love being here in this building, soaking up football, soaking up.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Ball, love being on the grass.
- 27:15Speaker 5: Those are the guys that you can build your team around.
- 27:18Speaker 5: And he's one of several, obviously and many that we
- 27:21Speaker 5: have on the team that can do that.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Head coach Doug Peterson yesterday at the full Press conference
- 27:26Speaker 2: at Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube talking about Brenton
- 27:30Speaker 2: Strange loving ball being in here. On Monday after the game,
- 27:34Speaker 2: it's Jaguars Happy Hour from the Honday Studios. We're on
- 27:37Speaker 2: ten ten XCEL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com,
- 27:40Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadrick, Jeff Logman, Kaiani Stevens joining us
- 27:44Speaker 2: in the studio each and every Thursday four thirty ish.
- 27:48Speaker 2: How are you.
- 27:49Speaker 6: I'm good, thank you, sixtreme. You have to love ball
- 27:52Speaker 6: in week six a season like this, Yes you do.
- 27:55Speaker 2: You gotta love it, kuy you do, and I know
- 27:58Speaker 2: you do. So what is now? What three weeks to go?
- 28:03Speaker 2: You hear that kind of stuff. It's like we're, you know,
- 28:05Speaker 2: looking ahead, good nucleus for the future, good young guys
- 28:08Speaker 2: get in time and the it's really the what we're
- 28:10Speaker 2: looking at now is what you know what newer, younger
- 28:15Speaker 2: guys get opportunities to build.
- 28:16Speaker 4: Up down the stretch here, and that's how you have
- 28:18Speaker 4: to look at I mean, we've been talking about it
- 28:19Speaker 4: for a couple weeks ourselves. Now they're kind of saying it,
- 28:22Speaker 4: but you've seen some of the move towards that. We
- 28:26Speaker 4: haven't seen Ronald Darby much anymore. In the secondaries. They're
- 28:28Speaker 4: really trying to figure out what they have going on
- 28:30Speaker 4: back there. Andre Cisco hasn't been playing as much because
- 28:33Speaker 4: they're trying to see what they have with Antonio Johnson
- 28:36Speaker 4: and Mason Smith's been playing significant amount of time and
- 28:39Speaker 4: we barely saw him at all. It wasn't even activated
- 28:41Speaker 4: half of the games in the beginning of the season,
- 28:43Speaker 4: So we are seeing that happen as this goes along. Yes,
- 28:46Speaker 4: you would like to win a couple of games, feel good,
- 28:47Speaker 4: be competitive, but you have to look forward and you
- 28:50Speaker 4: need to I think what we've been talking about mostly
- 28:52Speaker 4: is just knowing what you have, like what areas do
- 28:55Speaker 4: you need to address? And also as this team, like
- 28:58Speaker 4: there was a lot of players I felt like at
- 28:59Speaker 4: least a couple of players this year that they took
- 29:01Speaker 4: that they wanted to develop further. And if you can
- 29:03Speaker 4: develop them in these last four or five games that
- 29:07Speaker 4: they've been doing this and so then they're ready to
- 29:09Speaker 4: go next year, that's a huge win for you.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Well, Ronald Darby didn't play a snap zero yep this
- 29:16Speaker 2: past game.
- 29:17Speaker 6: Zero, all dressed up, nowhere to go.
- 29:19Speaker 2: And I mean, to be honest, I don't know what
- 29:23Speaker 2: took so long to move Monteric into the starting lineup.
- 29:26Speaker 2: I mean, I was kind of hoping that that would
- 29:28Speaker 2: happen a little while ago. And I'm not I wasn't
- 29:30Speaker 2: asking for or wanting Darby to go down to zero snaps,
- 29:35Speaker 2: but Montic had shown that he was playing better. And
- 29:39Speaker 2: when teams are knowingly going after that guy, which is Darby,
- 29:46Speaker 2: then it's time to make a change, and it took
- 29:49Speaker 2: him a little while. He finally did the safety position.
- 29:52Speaker 2: You know, with Antonio Johnson. Look, he's not without mistake.
- 29:55Speaker 2: I mean, he made a huge error in this past game,
- 29:59Speaker 2: and so the growing pains continue with him. The growing
- 30:03Speaker 2: pains continue with Mason Smith, which you know a lot
- 30:06Speaker 2: of times you kind of kind of just bite the
- 30:09Speaker 2: bullet sometimes and take the growing pound pains. But if
- 30:13Speaker 2: you're losing, you can do that. If you're winning and
- 30:16Speaker 2: competing for playoff spots, you don't have that ability. And
- 30:20Speaker 2: I hope it pays off for those guys down the
- 30:22Speaker 2: road because it's not paying dividends for the team right now.
- 30:26Speaker 2: What was the deal with Bason? I mean, he was
- 30:28Speaker 2: a healthy scratcher a couple of three weeks and then
- 30:31Speaker 2: all of a sudden had the ankle issue that popped
- 30:33Speaker 2: up and practiced and had him down for a while.
- 30:35Speaker 2: It just seems like he was kind of on the outside.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Look, he had some good rushes his past game, I thought,
- 30:40Speaker 3: but he got reached again a couple times. I mean
- 30:42Speaker 3: that's kind of like defensive tackle one oh one is
- 30:46Speaker 3: don't get reached, you know, staying your gap, and he
- 30:50Speaker 3: got reached a couple of times, as he's done for
- 30:52Speaker 3: basically the last three games, which is you.
- 30:55Speaker 2: Know, again, it's just part of it. But at least
- 30:57Speaker 2: his pass rush was better this week, which he affected
- 31:00Speaker 2: the quarterback a couple of times, which was good, I
- 31:02Speaker 2: mean good to see because I thought that that was
- 31:04Speaker 2: his strong suit coming out of camp, was his ability
- 31:07Speaker 2: to do that. Okay, we're chasing rookie receiving leader numbers
- 31:13Speaker 2: this week.
- 31:14Speaker 6: He's got two of them.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Already right well for the Jaguars, yes, but he's also
- 31:19Speaker 2: not far behind Brock Powers on the other side of
- 31:21Speaker 2: this week for the rookie lead in receiving yardage this season.
- 31:24Speaker 4: Gosh, that's scary. Tight ends for this team are always.
- 31:27Speaker 6: A concern, right, yeah, right, and he's the best one.
- 31:31Speaker 2: That's what it is, at least pretty bad. Okay.
- 31:34Speaker 3: You know, the league puts out this cheat sheet, I
- 31:38Speaker 3: guess you might call it, right, it's a whole packet, okay,
- 31:42Speaker 3: and they go through every like, first of all, they
- 31:44Speaker 3: start the packet out and it's got a bunch of
- 31:46Speaker 3: league stats, trends, fun little kind of statistical pieces of
- 31:52Speaker 3: information that you can use, you know, the playoff picture,
- 31:56Speaker 3: all those things and then they get to the game capsules,
- 32:00Speaker 3: which game capsule obviously describes the main storylines, and then
- 32:04Speaker 3: it has the rosters, it's the schedule, and then it
- 32:07Speaker 3: storylines within that game. And so I had to pull
- 32:12Speaker 3: this one up just to meet some of the people
- 32:13Speaker 3: that can see the broadcast of this can see this,
- 32:16Speaker 3: but then also for the people that are listening on radio.
- 32:19Speaker 3: It's a one pager and the first page is.
- 32:22Speaker 6: Normal than a page.
- 32:23Speaker 2: No, it's normally like two or three.
- 32:25Speaker 6: Okay, so we're down to one.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Go on, So it's down to one page, and the
- 32:29Speaker 3: first page is just logo stuff, and it has one
- 32:32Speaker 3: main storyline, JP, what's or ky? What's another great game
- 32:35Speaker 3: this week in the NFL?
- 32:37Speaker 2: The Ravens and the Steelers? Do you have happened to
- 32:40Speaker 2: have that storyline? See if you can get the number
- 32:43Speaker 2: of storylines. It's real quick, Okay, do some work around here,
- 32:48Speaker 2: plenty of time. JP.
- 32:49Speaker 4: Also, this reminds me very much of like if you
- 32:51Speaker 4: were in college or when I was in college, and
- 32:53Speaker 4: you're writing an essay and so you put the title
- 32:54Speaker 4: in a really big font and then you put like
- 32:56Speaker 4: the extra lines in the margins to fill the stage,
- 32:59Speaker 4: and was.
- 33:00Speaker 6: What it looks like to me when I'm looking at
- 33:02Speaker 6: They've got no film.
- 33:03Speaker 3: There's a lot of filler on the top of the
- 33:06Speaker 3: release for the for the capsule of the Jaguars Raiders game.
- 33:10Speaker 3: It's got one storyline and that storyline reads this stand
- 33:14Speaker 3: out rookie pass catchers Brian Thomas Junior and Brock Baer
- 33:17Speaker 3: square off with one thousand receiving yards benchmark in sight.
- 33:21Speaker 3: That is the only storyline of this ball game. Now
- 33:25Speaker 3: compare that to another dealer's Ravens has nine pages of notes.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Okay, and how many storylines like the main storyline do
- 33:32Speaker 2: you see? Just out go back to the top. Okay,
- 33:35Speaker 2: then we're going. So they have nine pages, there's six.
- 33:38Speaker 2: There's six main stylers in nine pages. Okay. The Jaguars
- 33:43Speaker 2: game Raiders game has one storyline two pages. Did you
- 33:47Speaker 2: count the main thing as one page? Okay, so that's
- 33:50Speaker 2: nine to two.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Like it's two good teams facing off against if you're
- 33:56Speaker 3: going to the popcorn do it for two rookies?
- 34:00Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's This game will be on in two markets,
- 34:05Speaker 2: probably be Jacksonville in Vegas.
- 34:07Speaker 3: It'll be very small. But okay, So I was curious
- 34:11Speaker 3: because I actually went through this. I didn't find anything else.
- 34:13Speaker 3: So the next main storyline for real is draft.
- 34:16Speaker 6: Order for both of us.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Yep, but that's great.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Raiders have lost ten straight games. This is a little
- 34:25Speaker 3: interesting nugget. So the Raiders have lost ten straight games
- 34:29Speaker 3: since starting the season two and two. It's tied for
- 34:32Speaker 3: the second longest losing streak within a season in team history.
- 34:36Speaker 3: They lost thirteen games back in nineteen sixty two. I
- 34:39Speaker 3: didn't know that about the Raiders back in nineteen sixty two,
- 34:42Speaker 3: the last team to lose eleven plus straight games within
- 34:46Speaker 3: a season.
- 34:49Speaker 6: YEP, feeling. I know.
- 34:50Speaker 2: I was here the twenty twenty Jaguars. We were all Herey,
- 34:54Speaker 2: you weren't here. Everybody else was here.
- 34:55Speaker 6: It was rainful though, yeah it was.
- 34:58Speaker 3: And then it goes on to talk about the rookies,
- 35:00Speaker 3: Brian Thomas brock Bauers, and they mix in Elak neighbors,
- 35:04Speaker 3: Lad McConkey, a little bit of Justin Blackman thrown in there,
- 35:07Speaker 3: because you know, obviously BTJ has the Jaguars rookie receiving record.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Now will surpass with.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Yardage? Is that all he's got them all?
- 35:18Speaker 3: Now he's tied for catches he's got for the other
- 35:21Speaker 3: on typer catch one catching and he passes Justin Blackman.
- 35:25Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is what.
- 35:26Speaker 3: The game's down to. It's a great two rookies to
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- 35:56Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick, Jeff Loghman, Kay, Steve,
- 36:00Speaker 2: there's a television program tonight.
- 36:02Speaker 4: Guy.
- 36:02Speaker 6: I'm told there is, Yes, I will be participating.
- 36:05Speaker 2: Who is involved? Who else is participating?
- 36:07Speaker 6: Jeff Logman is participating. I believe, I am.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I will be there.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Trey won Walker, I believe will be there. I'm very misinformed.
- 36:15Speaker 4: I don't want to inform anybody of these things, he says,
- 36:17Speaker 4: for the second week in a row. I always said
- 36:18Speaker 4: the wrong person. So we're hitting those doldrums in WEEKND,
- 36:22Speaker 4: so we.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Didn't have a person last week.
- 36:25Speaker 6: That was maybe my problem.
- 36:26Speaker 2: That seems that was a problem. But how did the
- 36:29Speaker 2: show go last week?
- 36:31Speaker 6: Always good? Yeah, I think it's it's good to talk
- 36:34Speaker 6: it out a little bit.
- 36:35Speaker 2: We but I'm looking forward to having Trayvon on because
- 36:38Speaker 2: you know, there is a little Trayvon nugget here. It's
- 36:41Speaker 2: great on this Uh well.
- 36:43Speaker 6: Brock Bauer shouted out his former teammate when he was
- 36:45Speaker 6: talking to the media this week.
- 36:48Speaker 2: Hm, Trayvon Walker leaves the Jaguars with eight and a
- 36:51Speaker 2: half sacks and eleven tackle for losses in twenty twenty four.
- 36:54Speaker 2: He needs This is pretty cool though, and this really
- 36:56Speaker 2: is a big deal. He needs one and a half
- 36:59Speaker 2: cent and Josh obviously needs three to get the double digits,
- 37:05Speaker 2: which would join Klays Campbell, which he had double digit
- 37:09Speaker 2: sacks and back to back years and seventeen when it
- 37:11Speaker 2: was Saxonville and eighteen, which is that's a big deal.
- 37:16Speaker 2: I mean for a pass rusher to get the double
- 37:18Speaker 2: digits as a monstrous deal. Do you ever get the
- 37:21Speaker 2: double digits one year? One year? And then I was
- 37:24Speaker 2: always right below it? Seven eight, you know, you can't
- 37:27Speaker 2: get one more sack to get over there.
- 37:28Speaker 3: I blew my acl out after having ten and then
- 37:31Speaker 3: it was an uphill battle.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Injury out of our injury. But it is what it is.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker one of the good guys. I've got to
- 37:41Speaker 2: say this about him.
- 37:42Speaker 3: Last week, it was real quick, go ahead, Jeff. I
- 37:45Speaker 3: thought he pass rushed really well, I did. I thought
- 37:48Speaker 3: he had a plan.
- 37:50Speaker 6: Job.
- 37:50Speaker 2: That's kind of what he does, right, I know, but
- 37:53Speaker 2: you know, usually trade it onto like a he's a power.
- 37:56Speaker 3: Guy, you know, he and he wants to push and
- 37:59Speaker 3: do that. This time he actually was had some quick
- 38:03Speaker 3: decisive moves which was.
- 38:07Speaker 2: I mean, look different. See, he just had a plan,
- 38:11Speaker 2: which a lot of times Trayvon is just a power guy.
- 38:14Speaker 2: Impressed me. Anyway.
- 38:16Speaker 3: Just had to throw that in there because it impressed
- 38:17Speaker 3: the hell out of me. And I'm looking forward to
- 38:19Speaker 3: watching him play. I'm a big fan. He's a tough guy.
- 38:21Speaker 2: When was the was it last year that Jaguars dot
- 38:25Speaker 2: Com you went up to his hometown? Was that? When
- 38:28Speaker 2: was that? Yeah?
- 38:28Speaker 4: Not this past summer, but the one before. We went
- 38:31Speaker 4: to Thomas and Georgia's where he's from.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, and got to see like everything behind the
- 38:37Speaker 2: scenes of all kind of scenes.
- 38:39Speaker 4: Was he back to back state basketball champions I believe, Yeah,
- 38:43Speaker 4: he's just I mean, Treadlon is just such a good
- 38:45Speaker 4: person and his family is is so welcoming and it's
- 38:49Speaker 4: easy to see where he gets his work ethic from
- 38:52Speaker 4: and and he's just uh, he's one of those people
- 38:54Speaker 4: you don't need to motivate, even if they're whatever the
- 38:57Speaker 4: record is going to end up being. He doesn't need
- 38:59Speaker 4: that kind of motivation. You can tell he has that
- 39:01Speaker 4: within himself. And he's just getting better by the year,
- 39:04Speaker 4: which is great.
- 39:04Speaker 2: What was the name of the barbecue place.
- 39:06Speaker 6: In Thomas Peggy Piggy Park?
- 39:08Speaker 2: Peggy Park? You got it.
- 39:12Speaker 6: Yes, they give me some barbecue when we left, too sauce.
- 39:14Speaker 6: It was good. I think I did the whole like
- 39:16Speaker 6: we did, like to try everything out.
- 39:18Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I like, I gotta try a little
- 39:20Speaker 4: bit and then got cooked out on the way back.
- 39:22Speaker 2: So I'm told. Brent Reaver says the Wings were good
- 39:25Speaker 2: as well.
- 39:26Speaker 4: I didn't have a bad thing there, so everything we
- 39:28Speaker 4: tried was good.
- 39:28Speaker 2: So love that. Well, I'm looking forward to the Wings tonight.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Speaking of Wings, the Alabama White sauce wings. You know it.
- 39:35Speaker 2: That's strange. They have other things on the menu.
- 39:37Speaker 6: No, they don't, not in his mind.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Nope. What are you going with tonight?
- 39:41Speaker 4: I had a salad with the pulled brisket last time.
- 39:44Speaker 6: That was very good. The brisket is good.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Love that. You know what I'm going with? Extra Alabama
- 39:51Speaker 2: white sauce. Oh double looking to dun't come in? Oh yeah,
- 39:54Speaker 2: I always get extra Alabi Literally take a drumstick and
- 39:58Speaker 2: I'm dipping it in air and swirling our around and
- 40:00Speaker 2: then coming out with it.
- 40:01Speaker 6: What's Thursday football tonight?
- 40:03Speaker 4: Do you know?
- 40:03Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a great question. Stand by Broncos
- 40:08Speaker 2: at the Chargers. Good game.
- 40:11Speaker 6: Actually watched much of good games, but really exciting.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Have you guys watched Bonick yet?
- 40:15Speaker 4: I haven't watched.
- 40:16Speaker 6: I haven't watched.
- 40:17Speaker 2: I have watched him. A totally different guy from in college.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Like he was like at Auburn, was like what is
- 40:22Speaker 2: going on here? And Sean Payton's and then a bunch
- 40:26Speaker 2: and then now here he is they're coaching, They're coaching
- 40:30Speaker 2: going on at a mile high. Good for him, man.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Then they got a really good defense in Denver too,
- 40:35Speaker 2: so that doesn't hurt well, having a great defense.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Time Channel seven Channels thirty, Fox thirty thirty.
- 40:45Speaker 6: Don't come to me, Do not come to me for
- 40:47Speaker 6: the information. I just show up. Everyone else is in
- 40:51Speaker 6: charge of the logistics.
- 40:53Speaker 2: Seven o'clock tonight, Fox thirty String Sports Brewery in Springfield.
- 40:57Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker is the guest for Jaguars All Access. Kai
- 41:00Speaker 2: will see you there.
- 41:01Speaker 6: Thanks.
- 41:02Speaker 2: That's Kay Stevens joining us in studio. Back with the
- 41:04Speaker 2: Baptist Health Injury Report for the Jags. If you want
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- 41:18Speaker 2: Coming up at five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show. This
- 41:22Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour
- 41:36Speaker 2: from the Honday Studios at the Miller Electric Center, JP
- 41:39Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. It's Week sixteen The Jaguars for
- 41:44Speaker 2: You eleven, the Raiders, two and twelve. A Battle in
- 41:49Speaker 2: the Desert. Sell it JP Allegiance Stadium, Las Vegas, just
- 41:54Speaker 2: off the strip. First Jaguars visit there, by the way,
- 41:57Speaker 2: have you said it's our first visits? We've never been.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Have you gotten any feedback all the stadium and what
- 42:04Speaker 3: it's like and or anything like that.
- 42:05Speaker 2: There's a football field at the bottom of it. Well
- 42:08Speaker 2: I know that. Yeah. Have you heard from anybody whether
- 42:12Speaker 2: it's great or or anything. They just have the Super
- 42:15Speaker 2: Bowl there like last year. Can't be bad. Yeah, But
- 42:18Speaker 2: my point is that, like when you went, I'm just
- 42:21Speaker 2: messing with you, I have not. I haven't heard much
- 42:23Speaker 2: feeda when I went to Jerry's World. Yeah, right, walked.
- 42:27Speaker 2: I've never been inside of by the way. When you
- 42:30Speaker 2: walk in there, you go, oh wow, what a place.
- 42:33Speaker 2: I mean, it really is fantastic. And there are certain
- 42:36Speaker 2: stadiums that I think, like Baltimore. I mean it's a
- 42:38Speaker 2: football stabus. The sightlines are great, the whole thing great. Yeah.
- 42:42Speaker 3: And I haven't heard from anybody or haven't heard anybody
- 42:46Speaker 3: say anything about man Vegas. It's this, you know, So
- 42:50Speaker 3: I'm looking forward. I think the radio boosts are pretty
- 42:53Speaker 3: high if I remember photos, I'm okay with that.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Yeah, you got glasses, Yeah, well, I got glass I
- 42:58Speaker 2: mean look at Houston is way high. Yeah, the Superdome
- 43:01Speaker 2: is really high. It's a very crazy high. That's fine. Yeah,
- 43:05Speaker 2: I don't. I don't mind the height. I just don't
- 43:06Speaker 2: want to be tucked away in a corner. Right. That's
- 43:09Speaker 2: kind of the trend, a lot of new places in
- 43:10Speaker 2: a corner. I don't think in the corner. Yeah, So
- 43:14Speaker 2: that's good, but I'm looking forward to seeing it. There
- 43:16Speaker 2: are and you mentioned these actually tease this earlier. There
- 43:18Speaker 2: are pretty stringent rules on what NFL personnel can do
- 43:22Speaker 2: and not do in Las Vegas. There is from what
- 43:25Speaker 2: I understand, casinos are not where you need to be,
- 43:31Speaker 2: not on company time and a business trip, as this
- 43:35Speaker 2: is company time from start to finish. Yeah, which is
- 43:37Speaker 2: fine because I'm not a casino guy. Anyway. You can't
- 43:41Speaker 2: even walk into a sports book unless there's business there, yeah,
- 43:45Speaker 2: or you are going through to go somewhere else in
- 43:48Speaker 2: the building. That's written. That's right, right, So mind your manners,
- 43:53Speaker 2: stay on your best behavior. I'm okay. As long as
- 43:55Speaker 2: there's no restrictions on walking into a restaurant and eating
- 43:59Speaker 2: good food, I'll be fine. Plenty of that out there,
- 44:03Speaker 2: then I'll be fine. I'm good. You can find something
- 44:05Speaker 2: time for the Baptist Health Injury Report, and it is
- 44:09Speaker 2: out now for Thursday. The Jaguars have four players on
- 44:14Speaker 2: the list this week. Ezra Cleveland with a knee issue
- 44:17Speaker 2: limited Wednesday and Thursday, Walker Little with an ankle issue
- 44:22Speaker 2: limited both days. Brandon Sheriff knee, shoulder, head, shoulder, knees,
- 44:27Speaker 2: toes whatever for Brandon limited both days. He'll be a
- 44:30Speaker 2: warrior and play as always. Brenton Strange the tight end
- 44:34Speaker 2: with a shoulder issue, limited both days, but expected to go.
- 44:39Speaker 2: And news from head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week
- 44:42Speaker 2: that both Trevor Lawrence and Evan Ingram underwent shoulder procedures
- 44:47Speaker 2: and both were successful. So that's a good sign. Talked
- 44:50Speaker 2: a little bit with Evan this morning and he looked great,
- 44:54Speaker 2: sounded great. You know, got I'll have the whole kind
- 44:56Speaker 2: of shoulder configuration, you know, the sling thing with the
- 45:00Speaker 2: pad under the elbow, and uh yeah, he felt good.
- 45:06Speaker 2: That surgery went great and so now he's on the
- 45:09Speaker 2: path the recovery. And I don't think it would be
- 45:13Speaker 2: I don't think either guy or they're going to be
- 45:15Speaker 2: fine for the off season programs, okay, because it's April.
- 45:20Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, people always say, well, you know they'll
- 45:23Speaker 3: be limited. Everybody's limited in the off season, right right.
- 45:28Speaker 3: I mean even even somebody that like a walker a
- 45:30Speaker 3: little like he tweaked his ankle, okay, when he comes
- 45:33Speaker 3: back for the OTAs, he's going to be a little
- 45:35Speaker 3: bit limited until he kind of gets into his flow.
- 45:37Speaker 3: So the reality is everybody's kind of limited coming back.
- 45:41Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah. The off season program technically is mid April,
- 45:44Speaker 2: but that's the first phase where it's strengthened conditioning only,
- 45:47Speaker 2: and then on the field stuffs begins. What three weeks
- 45:50Speaker 2: after that, I suppose, well.
- 45:52Speaker 3: And late April early May off season condition for most players,
- 45:57Speaker 3: Most players take maybe a week or two tops if that.
- 46:02Speaker 3: A lot of them continue to get treatment wherever they
- 46:04Speaker 3: may be, and then they jump right back into some
- 46:08Speaker 3: of the conditioning stuff. And it's obviously it's not a
- 46:10Speaker 3: lot of the high impact stuff. But the last thing
- 46:13Speaker 3: in the world that you want to do is to
- 46:14Speaker 3: get away from the game and to be a complete
- 46:19Speaker 3: couch potato, you know, and eat cheetos and you know,
- 46:23Speaker 3: peanut butter, and.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Would you do those two? You don't mix cheetos and
- 46:27Speaker 2: peanut butter. It makes a lot of things.
- 46:29Speaker 3: I'm not a big Cheetos fan, but I am a
- 46:33Speaker 3: peanut butter fan. Peanut butter goes with a lot of things.
- 46:36Speaker 2: Jape It certainly does peanut butter and jell approach peanut
- 46:40Speaker 2: butter and honey. It's wonderful. The other side of the
- 46:45Speaker 2: entry report, by the way, quickly, both quarterbacks Aidan O'Connell
- 46:47Speaker 2: and Desmond Ridder for the Raiders have practiced full both
- 46:51Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday. O'Connell had a knee issue, Desmond Ridder
- 46:54Speaker 2: with a hip issues, so you would expect O'Connell will
- 46:57Speaker 2: be back into the starting lineup this week. Jakobe Meyer
- 47:00Speaker 2: is a wide receiver with an ankle issue. Limited Wednesday
- 47:03Speaker 2: and Thursday. And those are really the most notable issues
- 47:07Speaker 2: for the Raiders. And that's the Baptist Health Injury report.
- 47:10Speaker 2: Baptist Health changing health care for good.
- 47:13Speaker 3: Yeah, O'Connell gives them the best chance to win. Desmond
- 47:16Speaker 3: Ritters never really impressed me, whether he's been in Atlanta
- 47:20Speaker 3: or watching him with the Raiders. He's kind of a
- 47:23Speaker 3: hadn't really figured it out how to read defenses and
- 47:25Speaker 3: runs around a little bit, but he's not like it's
- 47:27Speaker 3: not like he's an effective runner, so running around doesn't
- 47:30Speaker 3: really help him much. But Adan O'Connell is the gives
- 47:34Speaker 3: them the best chance to win. If you go back
- 47:36Speaker 3: and watch the Kansas City game, which was three weeks
- 47:40Speaker 3: ago end of November, they ended up putting like over
- 47:44Speaker 3: four hundred yards up against kan City, almost won that game.
- 47:48Speaker 3: An o'conna ended up Frohn for three hundred and forty yards.
- 47:51Speaker 3: Had an impressive game. It was like one hundred and
- 47:53Speaker 3: ten and twenty rating something on that range. So look,
- 47:57Speaker 3: they're capable, but you know, we'll see how he's going
- 48:02Speaker 3: to be.
- 48:03Speaker 2: The Raiders last week on Monday Night Football had three
- 48:06Speaker 2: kicks blocked in the game, one punt blocked, one punt deflected,
- 48:11Speaker 2: and one of their extra point attempts was blocked as well.
- 48:14Speaker 2: I mean, you got to go test that again this week,
- 48:16Speaker 2: right and get a rush on.
- 48:17Speaker 3: I was kind of chuckling because I was I was
- 48:19Speaker 3: doing my game board and I was like, gosh, they
- 48:21Speaker 3: got a lot of special teams coaches. Like when I
- 48:23Speaker 3: was doing my board just before the game, and so
- 48:26Speaker 3: Tom McMahon is there, special teams coordinator. Then he has
- 48:29Speaker 3: two assistants. Okay, he's got kid Rainings and then Darius
- 48:33Speaker 3: Sweat in the second, it's so, and then all of
- 48:36Speaker 3: a sudden I watched the game, I'm like, well, three
- 48:39Speaker 3: coaches didn't pay off right there? Right, it's always coaching
- 48:42Speaker 3: in the NFL, you know.
- 48:43Speaker 2: So.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Uh, but but seriously, when you're at this point where
- 48:48Speaker 3: you're mathematically eliminated, you have to be aware of things
- 48:51Speaker 3: like that. You're you have to be aware of things
- 48:54Speaker 3: like that if you're the team.
- 48:56Speaker 4: Uh.
- 48:56Speaker 3: And then if you're a team with nothing to lose,
- 48:58Speaker 3: you're also going to be more willing to take chances
- 49:01Speaker 3: with fakes and also trick plays that may be on
- 49:05Speaker 3: special team. So I think if you're Doug Peterson, you
- 49:09Speaker 3: are talking to your coaching staff and saying, hey, look,
- 49:12Speaker 3: let's all be aware of where we are, where they are,
- 49:16Speaker 3: and what could possibly happen because of that, because you're
- 49:19Speaker 3: just a willing You're willing to assume a little bit
- 49:21Speaker 3: more risk in a game when you know things are
- 49:25Speaker 3: kind of already done.
- 49:26Speaker 2: It's empty the bag. Why not? Why not? Yeah, you
- 49:28Speaker 2: got to do it now or never? Almost? Well, and
- 49:30Speaker 2: here here's the one thing that trick plays and uh,
- 49:36Speaker 2: fun plays or fake plays create. It creates kind of
- 49:41Speaker 2: energy in practice.
- 49:42Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, for example, if you're throwing a
- 49:44Speaker 3: ball to a fat guy who in one of the
- 49:45Speaker 3: offensive lineman. I'm joking around calling them fat guy because
- 49:48Speaker 3: offensive lineman for the most part not fat.
- 49:50Speaker 2: They're in great shape.
- 49:52Speaker 3: But you know, for example, if you throw the ball
- 49:53Speaker 3: to an offensive lineman like the Detroit line through the
- 49:56Speaker 3: ball to Dan Skipper and everybody's all fired up about it,
- 49:59Speaker 3: and then practice, I'm sure they were fired up about
- 50:01Speaker 3: it and having fun. That creates fun and excitement. Also
- 50:04Speaker 3: for a team that may not be doing.
- 50:05Speaker 2: The boy so good. We got to have some fun,
- 50:07Speaker 2: that's for sure. At three and eleven, we're looking for
- 50:10Speaker 2: that this week in Las Vegas place were we can
- 50:12Speaker 2: have a lot of fun. The Jaguars and the Raiders
- 50:15Speaker 2: coming up, and then up next the Doug Peterson Show
- 50:17Speaker 2: will have the head coaching studio in mere moments. Thanks
- 50:20Speaker 2: for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.