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Ginger-Haired Teen With Mind of 7-year-old, Kidnapped for Sex · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A beautiful teen girl with
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Speaker 1: the cognitive ability the mind of a seven year old child.
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Benjamin Olsen is beautiful on the outside in the
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Speaker 1: inside as well. But what you may not know by
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Speaker 1: looking at this gorgeous, young, redheaded teen is that she
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Speaker 1: is vastly cognitively disabled. When you hear her talk, when
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Speaker 1: you communicate with her, when you try to text her,
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Speaker 1: email her, you know that she is speaking or trying
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Speaker 1: to type with a mind of a seven year old child.
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Speaker 1: And now this teen girl with the mind of a
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Speaker 1: seven year old has been kidnapped. Imancy Grace, this is
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and series XM one eleven. Think about it.
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Speaker 1: This is the equivalent of a seven year old girl
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Speaker 1: being kidnapped, but she's in the body of a teen.
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Speaker 1: Please help us find Caitlin. The tipline is nine one
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Speaker 1: zero six seven seven fifty five fourteen repeat nine one
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Speaker 1: zero six seven seven five five one four. And to
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Speaker 1: make it even worse, we have very strong suspicions based
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Speaker 1: in fact that her kidnapper, a grown male that I
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Speaker 1: met about fifty five is using her or trying to
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Speaker 1: use her not only for sex, but to get her
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Speaker 1: Social Security payments. Somewhere, this little girl is being held
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Speaker 1: for sex and her kidnapper is trying to get his
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Speaker 1: mits on her social Security disability. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. First of all, take a listen to Rona Black.
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Benjamin Olsen is a nineteen year old from Cumberland County,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. She's not been seen since February fifth. Caitlyn
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Speaker 1: is believed to be with an unidentified man who she
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Speaker 1: met on a social media platform. Caitlin's disappearance is extremely concerning, though,
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Speaker 1: and her family noted that Caitlyn has developmental disabilities and
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Speaker 1: likely did not fully understand what the man's intentions were
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Speaker 1: when they were communicating, despite Caitlin having a documented history
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Speaker 1: of cognitive disabilities. Caitlin's family claims that local law enforcement
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Speaker 1: do not appear very motivated to find answers that could
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Speaker 1: lead to bringing Caitlin home safely. There have been a
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Speaker 1: few local news reports, but no repeat coverage of Caitlin's
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Speaker 1: case locally. Why because she looks like a teen girl,
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Speaker 1: She looks like she's eighteen or nineteen, Her mind is
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Speaker 1: that of a seven year old child. Think about your child.
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Speaker 1: I'm imagining John David and Lucy at age seven being
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Speaker 1: kidnapped hell somewhere like this girl is being held. Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine what her mother, her family is going through.
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Speaker 1: And according to them, local police are like, huh, she's eighteen,
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Speaker 1: she can do what she wants. No, she's not mentally
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Speaker 1: eighteen years old. And there is a cognitive proof of
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Speaker 1: that created by neurologists that have studied her and placed
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Speaker 1: her brain, her development at that of a first grader. Again,
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and series XM one
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Speaker 1: eleven with me an all star panel to make sense
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Speaker 1: of what we know right now. Ronad Black is with us.
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Speaker 1: She's a victim's advocate, owner of jury File, a true
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Speaker 1: crime podcast and investigative research website. You can find her
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Speaker 1: at juryfile dot com. Greg Smith Special Guests joining us,
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Speaker 1: Special Deputy Sheriff joining us out of Johnson County and
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Speaker 1: you can find him at Kelsey's Army dot com. Karen
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Speaker 1: Stark were now in New York Psychologists joining us out
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Speaker 1: of Manhattan today. You can find her at Karen Stark
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Speaker 1: dot com. That's Karen with a CE Kathleene Murphy. They
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Speaker 1: first brought our attention to this case. High profile family
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Speaker 1: lawyer out of North Carolina at NC Domestic Law dot
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Speaker 1: com and special guest joining us. This is Caitlin's mother
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Speaker 1: joining us, Lisa Benjamin. Lisa, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. When did you first realize Caitlin
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Speaker 1: was gone? I heard a noise around two thirty. I
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Speaker 1: didn't think anything of it. That was two thirty in
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Speaker 1: the morning on the fifth. I didn't think anything of
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Speaker 1: it because the girls have a bed that has slots,
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Speaker 1: like wooden slots on it, and they were always fixing
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Speaker 1: it because they were always separating. Her and her sister
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Speaker 1: shared a platform bed, and I didn't go and check
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Speaker 1: because this is the only time that I've never gone
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Speaker 1: and checked their bedroom. And then at seven thirty in
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Speaker 1: the morning, my youngest daughter will up and said that
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Speaker 1: her I said, what's wrong because she was sitting on
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Speaker 1: the couch weird. I didn't think anything about I said
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Speaker 1: what's wrong. She goes, Oh, my windows open and it
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Speaker 1: was very windy that night, so I thowt it just
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Speaker 1: blew off their storm window. I had left their window.
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Speaker 1: The storm window open and it blew the screen window off,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't even pay attention. I thought the bathroom
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Speaker 1: door was shut, and I thought that's where Katie was.
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Speaker 1: And when I walked by, it was open, and that's
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Speaker 1: when we noticed she was gone. I immediately called the police. Guys,
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Speaker 1: take a listen now to our physic crime online dot com.
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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Benjamin Olson is nineteen years old. Her mother, Lisa Benjamin,
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Speaker 1: says Kaitlyn is very outgoing, friendly, talks to anybody. Caitlyn
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Speaker 1: looks like your typical nineteen year old. She has Hayes eyes,
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Speaker 1: strawberry blonde hair, and wears glasses. Her mother says that
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Speaker 1: despite her age and appearance, she has the mentality of
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Speaker 1: someone much younger. She's mentally disabled and she has the
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Speaker 1: mind of a seven year old. In the first week
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Speaker 1: of February, Kaitlyn and r twenty one year old brother
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Speaker 1: met a man at their local family Dollar store in Fayette,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Straight out to Greg Smith, special Deputy Sheriff
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Speaker 1: joining us out of Johnson County Sheriff's Office in Kansas. Greg, again,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. It's bringing to mind
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Speaker 1: the case of Cherish perry Winkle, the little I think
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Speaker 1: seven or eight year old girl that went missing from
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Speaker 1: a huge superstore I believe it was a Walmart or
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Speaker 1: Target superstore. How often and we're seeing it more and
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Speaker 1: more that predators are hunting. Essentially, they're victims and Family
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Speaker 1: Dollar or Family General, the Walmart, the Target, and they
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Speaker 1: find them, they make contact there and the next thing
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Speaker 1: you know, the child is missing. Yeah, it's becoming a trend.
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Speaker 1: Usually there's some kind of contact over or social media
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Speaker 1: or an app or something like that where some type
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Speaker 1: of rapport is set up between the victim and the predator,
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Speaker 1: and then the final part of that is, Hey, why
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Speaker 1: don't you meet me at next place? And it can
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Speaker 1: be very simple, right Greg Smith, Like in Cherish Periwinkle's case,
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Speaker 1: the purp met the mother, cherished, his mother and her
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Speaker 1: little sisters I believe at a Dollar General or Family Dollar.
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Speaker 1: They then moved to Jacue was at a Target or
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Speaker 1: a Walmart super Walmart superstore and we're shopping together waiting
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Speaker 1: for his wife to show up. And at some point,
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Speaker 1: after about an hour or two shopping for the girls
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Speaker 1: school clothes, one of the girls was saying, Oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: hungry mom, and they had to McDonald's, as I recall,
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Speaker 1: at the front of the Walmart superstore in the Walmart
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Speaker 1: and he went, Hey, why don't I go get the
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Speaker 1: girls from Cheeseburgers And Mom said okay, because it's all
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Speaker 1: in the same building. And he walked right out the
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Speaker 1: door with Cherish Perrywinkle rape, sodomized her and murdered her
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Speaker 1: just like that. We see it over and over where people.
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Speaker 1: Predators are making contact in these stores. Yeah, it's I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're right, Nancy, it's one of these things that's becoming
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Speaker 1: a trend. And you know, these predators present themselves as
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Speaker 1: you know, mister knives guy, and I say mister, because
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Speaker 1: it's almost always a guy, you know, and hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: here to help. And Greg Smith. What's amazing about this
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Speaker 1: is that at the Family Dollar they have awesome surveillance
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Speaker 1: video and we actually have a shot of the guy
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Speaker 1: that Caitlin met that day. To Lisa Benjamin, this is
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Speaker 1: Caitlin's mom, Lisa, who if anyone was with Caitlin that day,
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Speaker 1: her brother c Um he's twenty one, so she was
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Speaker 1: a company. She was not by herself, No, she was
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Speaker 1: up today Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Joining me right now.
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Speaker 1: Is ron A black victim advocate on Jury File tin
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Speaker 1: crime podcast. You can find her at juryfile dot com.
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Speaker 1: Rona described to me the area where is the family
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Speaker 1: the family dollar so there, it's quite close to their
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Speaker 1: family's home. See Caitlin's family's home there in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Um,
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Speaker 1: and I believe it's Lisage, just like less than less
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Speaker 1: than a couple of miles away there, right, It's like
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Speaker 1: I walked to it every every day I have to
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Speaker 1: go shopping with my walker. It's like less than five
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Speaker 1: feet away, like maybe ten maybe ten feet. You have
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Speaker 1: to cross a double laned highway between two grass stations.
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Speaker 1: It's right off of eighty seven. Kathleen Murphy joining us,
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer out of North Carolina. What do you know,
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy? So, Nancy, I came across the story on
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Speaker 1: a Facebook page and I was very disheartened to hear,
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Speaker 1: so I looked a little bit into it and reached
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Speaker 1: out to your producer because nobody was covering the stories.
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Speaker 1: And I have a lot of concerns when I read it,
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Speaker 1: because this child has well, this young girl has been
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Speaker 1: missing since February fifth. I don't hear a lot of
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Speaker 1: feedback or commentary from the police department, and apparently there
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Speaker 1: is some information out there on Instagram, and I've got
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Speaker 1: to know what that information is and what the police
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Speaker 1: have from her Instagram's been a really interesting Kathleen Murphy
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Speaker 1: that the media is not focusing on Kate on story?
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Speaker 1: Why all right? Why is it because she's mentally disabled?
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Speaker 1: Is because she looks like a teen girl, but in
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Speaker 1: her mind she's seven year old and nobody wants to
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Speaker 1: talk about that. What's the problem. I think it's a
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Speaker 1: very difficult area that they live in. It's in say it, well,
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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and that's a military talent, what
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Speaker 1: does that have to do with anything? Lots of changing people,
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Speaker 1: and so sometimes a story can get covered and show
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Speaker 1: no interest because the people who may have been interested
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Speaker 1: in it got shipped off or got relocated. But the
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Speaker 1: media is still there. The media hasn't changed. What about it,
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Speaker 1: Lisa Benjamin, I gotta I gotta say. The first night
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Speaker 1: they aired it at eleven o'clock on the news. The
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Speaker 1: next day there was also an infant missing from the area,
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Speaker 1: so it was going back and forth for Katie, Katie
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Speaker 1: and this infant that was missing, which they did find,
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Speaker 1: and that was it. That was it. It was one whole,
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Speaker 1: like half of the morning until noontime covered on and
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Speaker 1: I looked for days and days after on the same channel.
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Speaker 1: It was Channel seventeen News here, so they want to
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Speaker 1: cover the Kete baby but not the many handicapped teen girl.
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Speaker 1: Is that it? Yeah, it was basically how it went
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Speaker 1: down on the news. That's how it went down. Guys.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our investigative reporter Dave Matt joining
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Speaker 1: us from Crime Online. Caitlyn's mother, Lisa Benjamin, say she
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Speaker 1: believes the man her daughter went to meet at the
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Speaker 1: family Dollar store was a man she met on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: The only thing Lisa knows about the man is his
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Speaker 1: first name, Chris. The Cumberland County Sheriff's Office has publicized
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Speaker 1: a surveillance photo from that meeting in hopes of identifying him.
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Speaker 1: Caitlin's mother says the man is not known to them.
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Speaker 1: He appears to be about sixty five years old. Lisa
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Speaker 1: says that man and the photo, he's not related to us.
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Speaker 1: He is unknown. She goes on to say that she
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Speaker 1: believes the man made promises to her daughter, saying he
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Speaker 1: coached her out of her bedroom window. My child has
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Speaker 1: never ran away before, never tried to do this, coached her,
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Speaker 1: lured her out off her bedroom window. Rona Black, do
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Speaker 1: you agree with that, with the fact that he lured her? Yes,
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Speaker 1: well absolutely, I mean who couldn't agree with that fact
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Speaker 1: she has the mind of a seven year old child.
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Speaker 1: He's a grown man who is talking to people that
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Speaker 1: you and I both know obviously are talking to her
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Speaker 1: knowing that she's a seven year old in her mind,
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Speaker 1: So he knew what he was doing. And the fact that, um,
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Speaker 1: there is there's obvious movement on her social security income.
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Speaker 1: Um we we know that what what's he is? Um
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Speaker 1: we believe that who wherever Caitlin is right now, someone
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Speaker 1: is trying to interfere with her social security disability Guys
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Speaker 1: speaking of luring a young girl from home, and then
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Speaker 1: somehow police act like it's the girl's fault. Let me
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Speaker 1: remind everyone of Nicole Lovell. Just a precious little I
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Speaker 1: think she was twelve or thirteen years old, lured out
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Speaker 1: of her home and Blacksburg, Virginia by a superstar. Had
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Speaker 1: been valedictorian at his high school. Was this I recall
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Speaker 1: and engineering major at Virginia Tech. And he basically wanted
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Speaker 1: to have sex with a twelve year old girl. He
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Speaker 1: lured her out of her home that night, said he
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Speaker 1: was going to marry her, take her away, start a
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Speaker 1: family with her, how he loved her. Her body was
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Speaker 1: found completely naked, thrown by the side of the road
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Speaker 1: she had been. Her body had been wiped down with
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Speaker 1: like lightsol whites to get rid of any evidence. He
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Speaker 1: lured this little girl to her death. Karen start, You
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Speaker 1: and I worked that case together, the case of the
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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech student. And what was so amazing is that
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Speaker 1: the perp, David Eisenhower, had a friend from home. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember her, and she helped him
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Speaker 1: disposed of the body. She also was a student at
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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Do you remember this luring the little girl out.
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Speaker 1: Natalie Keepers was the co defendant and together they lured
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Speaker 1: this little girl much the way you hear of Katie
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Benjamin Olsen being lured out of her bedroom. They
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Speaker 1: lured Nicole Lovell out and they murdered her. Now, while
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Speaker 1: you're hearing from ronand Black that we believe the perp
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Speaker 1: in this case is trying to hone in on Caitlin's disability,
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Speaker 1: her mentally handicapped disability money. To me, that's a sign
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Speaker 1: that she may very well still be alive and he's
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Speaker 1: trying to get those checks. But luring a child out
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Speaker 1: is that's been around since day one, Karen start Oh,
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Speaker 1: and so many story worries like that and having people
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Speaker 1: friends be accompliced, you know, convincing them to be part
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Speaker 1: of the nefarious act that they're about to commit. And
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Speaker 1: what you get from the story Nancy is the same
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Speaker 1: as what you're describing, because she does have developmental delay,
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Speaker 1: she's seven mentally, and I am quite sure he picked
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Speaker 1: up on that and was going to take advantage of her.
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Speaker 1: So it's ruthless. It's ruthless and shocking that it's not
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Speaker 1: being covered more because this is une despicable. You can
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Speaker 1: only hope that she's okay. Greg Smith I'm shocked that
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Speaker 1: local media and local police reportedly are treating this as
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Speaker 1: if it is Caitlin's fault that she laughed. Well, I
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Speaker 1: can't say that. I'm really surprised about the media response.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of us things where in less
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Speaker 1: um there's a there's a person that's just constantly in
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Speaker 1: the media space trying to get that information out there. Um,
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Speaker 1: they tend to, you know, not cover these things. It's
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Speaker 1: not sensational enough, there's not enough wild fact. Well, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's more. What's more upsetting than luring what
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Speaker 1: looks to be a teen girl with beautiful red hair
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Speaker 1: out of her bedroom window, knowing that she has the
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Speaker 1: mind of a seven year old child. Greg Smith, do
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Speaker 1: you think there's a possibility he is passing her off
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Speaker 1: somewhere as his own daughter or niece or relative. Certainly
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Speaker 1: a possibility. Nancy um that that would be probably the
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Speaker 1: most logical thing to do, particularly since it sounds like
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Speaker 1: he's trying to get the money from her fibility checks.
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Speaker 1: He is the worst of the worst guys. We have
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Speaker 1: good news and bad news. Take listen to investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt from Crime Online Kaitlin Benjamin Olsen was last
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Speaker 1: seen wearing blue pajama bottoms and a black Grays Creek
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Speaker 1: High School hoodie. Kaitlyn has never run away from home before,
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Speaker 1: and her mother believes she was lured out her bedroom
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Speaker 1: window by an older man named Chris that Kaitlin met
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. Law enforcement believes the man made arrangements to
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Speaker 1: meet Kaitlyn in person, and her mother believes he made
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Speaker 1: promises to Kaitlyn to convince her to leave with him,
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Speaker 1: knowing Caitlyn took her cellphone. Law enforcement told her mother
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Speaker 1: that Caitlin's cellphone pinged in Miami, Florida on February seventh
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Speaker 1: or February eighth, and in Orlando, Florida on February fifteenth.
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Speaker 1: The good knees of their friend is still working in pinging.
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Speaker 1: We think, what do I make of that? I mean,
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Speaker 1: go with me, paddle and again, Padle. This ain't no
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Speaker 1: tea party. Jump in. We're trying to find this girl.
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Speaker 1: If you've got a thought, now's the time I think
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Speaker 1: you took her to Disney. I really do, Orlando, Where
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Speaker 1: would you take a child to make it happy and
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Speaker 1: stay with you and blend in very well? Put Disney Orlando.
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Speaker 1: I would get right down there and start pulling the
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Speaker 1: video surveillance. I mean that whole place is covered in
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Speaker 1: video surveillance. Disney's awesome about that for February fifteenth, and
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Speaker 1: is jumping in Rona here. I'd like to also chime
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Speaker 1: in on this very important fact Katie. There are these
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Speaker 1: kings are popping up in locations where Katie and her
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Speaker 1: family had already previously talked about going as a family
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Speaker 1: two weeks before. Wow, tell me about that, Lisa Benjamin,
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Speaker 1: what we were thinking about giving up our house and
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Speaker 1: getting a camper and traveling, and we were asking all
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Speaker 1: the kids where would you like to go? And two
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Speaker 1: places Katie mentioned were Disney and Louisiana from Morti Grass
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Speaker 1: and that's what was just happening in Louisiana was Mardi Grass.
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Speaker 1: And when she first pained, I asked the detectives, are
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Speaker 1: you going to go down there? They're like, no, to
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Speaker 1: be a waste of our time. They don't even have
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Speaker 1: the civil alerts in Orlando. Because my cousin amber Ward,
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Speaker 1: her husband was in the army with this man. They
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Speaker 1: have a cops friend that worked in Orlando Police department
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Speaker 1: down there, he went into work. He did not have
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Speaker 1: a civil alert on Katie whatsoever. He tried to get
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Speaker 1: ahold of the detectives and her case is locked. Oh
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Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven. Okay, So Greg Smith, doesn't this
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Speaker 1: tell you, I mean, you're the special Deputy Sheriff. Doesn't
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Speaker 1: this tell you they went to Disney and she was
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Speaker 1: alive and well February fifteen, Well, it certainly tells me
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Speaker 1: that her phone was in that area. Just speaking as
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Speaker 1: a as a cell phone analyst, one of the things
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Speaker 1: that I do in my job, I can't I mean,
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Speaker 1: in court, I wouldn't be amitted to say that she
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Speaker 1: was there. All I can say is that her phone
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Speaker 1: was there. That you're not in court, you're on time stories.
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Speaker 1: So why do you think her phone would be pinging
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Speaker 1: around Orlando? And I bet if they triangulated, it would
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Speaker 1: be at Disney. It's quite possible. And they have that technology,
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Speaker 1: they have the capability to do that. Why they haven't,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man. I'll be lighting a fire under
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Speaker 1: somebody's rear in about right now. What else? Nancy point, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is a mother. Okay. Now, my son
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Speaker 1: kept on saying something about Fremont Park, which is not
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Speaker 1: a park, it's actually beach that's off the grid. No
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Speaker 1: Wi Fi. You could camp right next, pull your car
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Speaker 1: right up on the beach. And I told the detective
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Speaker 1: of the second night out and she said that she
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Speaker 1: was going to send detectives out there, which she didn't do.
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Speaker 1: She admitted to me that she didn't do. And my
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Speaker 1: daughter ping there and that is an hour and forty
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Speaker 1: nine minutes away for me. It is eighteen hun or
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Speaker 1: Canal Drive, North Carolina Beaches two eight four to eight.
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, what is going on with the local police.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Nancy, but is this enough to get
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Speaker 1: the FBI involved in this case because they cross state line? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they have cross state lines. They absolutely have committed for
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Speaker 1: purposes of the FBI to get involved. Is this real
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Speaker 1: purposes of the affai? I called the FBI, the FBI
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Speaker 1: down here, that's stationed down here in North Carolina. I
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Speaker 1: called them. They took the key snumber, they took everything
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Speaker 1: about Keatie's disappearance and everything, and they said the local
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Speaker 1: police have to ask for the help for them to
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Speaker 1: jump in. That's right, they do. The local police have
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Speaker 1: to ask. I want to focus on something. I don't
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Speaker 1: know the answer to that, but I do know this
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Speaker 1: that there are photos of the purp. It looks to
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Speaker 1: me like a hog. He on a really big black motorcycle.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't see enough to know if it's a hurling
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Speaker 1: or what it is. He's also been spotted with a
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Speaker 1: blue Dodge Magna. Now, there's so much that can be
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Speaker 1: done with that. Go with me, Rona Black on this.
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Speaker 1: Rona is joining us from juryfile dot com. She's a
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Speaker 1: victim's advocate. First of all, how many people in that
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Speaker 1: area have a Blue Dodge Magna? How many? Then you
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Speaker 1: take that and cross reference it with driver's licenses. You
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Speaker 1: rule out all the women, You rule out teens and
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Speaker 1: guys in their twenties and thirties, and who do you
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Speaker 1: have left that? Now, if this is a rental car,
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Speaker 1: which I highly doubt by the looks of it, But
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Speaker 1: if it is, then go to the rental agencies nearby
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Speaker 1: find out who rented the car. It's really not that hard, Rona,
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about out the car? I
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Speaker 1: can tell you that we know for sure the suspect
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Speaker 1: was driving the car the first time he ever met
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Speaker 1: Katie so we know for sure that he drives. The
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Speaker 1: brother verified that when they saw him at a local store,
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Speaker 1: um that previously prior to her disappearance, that they they verified.
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Speaker 1: The brother verified that that was her. He was driving
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Speaker 1: that vehicle. They were sitting in that car. They were
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Speaker 1: sitting in the car. Would there be surveillance video from
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Speaker 1: that store that could possibly pick up a tack? They
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Speaker 1: were supposedly going up there to get that information. That's
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Speaker 1: where that one they got him in Family Dollar. But
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Speaker 1: Katie and Hill Katie, oh my god, I'm her sister's name.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Katie and CJ. Would inside Foodline, which is
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Speaker 1: right next store with him. They would inside the store together,
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Speaker 1: all three of them. So when you say they we're
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Speaker 1: gonna go get the video, who is they the detectives?
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Speaker 1: Have you been yourself? I The only video that the
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Speaker 1: police officer showed me was a video of the morning.
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Speaker 1: Is that a No, you have not been too? What
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Speaker 1: was the grocery store? Food line? No? I did not
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Speaker 1: go myself with the detectives. No, but you do know
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Speaker 1: that he went. Yes, And what if anything did the
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Speaker 1: video reveal? They didn't show me that video. They only
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Speaker 1: showed me of the video of the shell station. Let's
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Speaker 1: say a mock up of a blue Dodge Magna. What
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Speaker 1: does that look like? Describe it for me, Runna black. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a four door. Um it will they
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Speaker 1: Some people call it an suv, but it really looks
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Speaker 1: like a sedan. It's lowered to the ground. Um it is.
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Speaker 1: We We have photos of it out there at juryfile
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Speaker 1: dot com. And there's other photos out there of the vehicle.
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Speaker 1: That vehicle. Like I said, we know that he drives it.
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Speaker 1: But most importantly, what I really need to stress is
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Speaker 1: law enforcement there is telling Katie's mom that that he
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Speaker 1: doesn't that's not his vehicle. He has nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with that vehicle. But whoever has that vehicle knows who
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Speaker 1: our suspect is. Guys, take a listen to our friends
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Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. The Cumberland County, North Carolina
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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office spokesperson Sergeant Tenaya Brown says, upon further investigation,
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Speaker 1: someone convinced Kaitlin Benjamin Olsen to meet in person. The
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Speaker 1: man and the photos is someone who might have information
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Speaker 1: on her whereabouts. We do not have this man's name
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Speaker 1: or age at this time. We are asking for the
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Speaker 1: public's assistance and identifying this man. Anyone with information on
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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn's whereabouts or who knows the identity of this man
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Speaker 1: can contact Senior Sergeant Nicole Mincy at nine one zero
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Speaker 1: six seven seven fifty five fourteen or Crime Stoppers at
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Speaker 1: nine one o four eight three eighty four seventy seven.
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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, let's just cause for
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Speaker 1: one moment and think. Think about this teen girl with
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Speaker 1: the mind of a seven year old child, with this
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Speaker 1: man and his late fifties early sixties. What do you
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Speaker 1: think is happening right now? What motel are they shacked
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Speaker 1: up in? Is he having sex with her every day?
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Speaker 1: Of course he is. Is he trying to get her
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Speaker 1: Social Security disability check for her cognitive handicap? Now, think
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Speaker 1: about it, what this child is going through right now,
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Speaker 1: somewhere away from mom, away from home, away from anyone
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Speaker 1: that would take care of her. How much did you
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Speaker 1: have to take care of your seven year old child?
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Speaker 1: How much? How time consenting was that? All this guy's
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Speaker 1: thinking about doing is molesting her and maybe getting her
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Speaker 1: Social Security benefit. Take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 1: Jury File podcast. After communicating with Caitlyn on social media.
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Speaker 1: The unknown man took extra steps to ensure that Caitlyn
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Speaker 1: felt comfortable around him, even offering to meet family members
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Speaker 1: of hers. It is also likely that he owns or
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Speaker 1: has access to the motorcycle pictured on on her flyers
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Speaker 1: as well this one right here. Caitlyn's case highlights the
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Speaker 1: rising number in cases that stem from communication on social media.
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Speaker 1: Predators who reach out through social media and know what
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Speaker 1: to look for in younger individuals to learn and manipulate them.
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Speaker 1: Individuals who choose to exhibit this type of behavior do
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Speaker 1: not make their true intentions known, and just because they
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Speaker 1: have not said that they plan to harm a person
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Speaker 1: that they are seeking out does not mean that they won't.
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Speaker 1: I want to follow up on what you just said,
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Speaker 1: Ronad Black, joining me from jurifile dot com, explain, I
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Speaker 1: mean when you say he tried to make her feel
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Speaker 1: comfortable with him, offering to meet her family, like their dating,
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Speaker 1: She's got the mind of a seven year old child.
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Speaker 1: They're not dating exactly. It's just ludicrous, Steven even think
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Speaker 1: that for a second. And this isn't It's not as
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Speaker 1: if this isn't a sensational type case for people to cover.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of details. We have images of the suspect,
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Speaker 1: we have vehicles, we're trying to track down and get
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Speaker 1: the local public to let us know if they know
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Speaker 1: this and or Nutch. We have so much actual information
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Speaker 1: in facts to go on. I just shot that this
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Speaker 1: has not come to an d yet. Caitlin. There is
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Speaker 1: no way that Caitlin left with that man. The only
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Speaker 1: way she walked out and left that window in the
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Speaker 1: middle of her night willingly was if he had promised
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Speaker 1: her the world. There is no way she just left
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Speaker 1: with him, like when little Nicole Lovell was promised that
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Speaker 1: she's thirteen years old, that David Eisenhower, the big man
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Speaker 1: on campus at Virginia Tech, was going to marry her
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Speaker 1: and start a family, and Statia ends up naked, Dad
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Speaker 1: wiped down with Lisa wipes on the side of the road.
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Speaker 1: This is bringing to mind another longtime friend. Alicia kosy
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Speaker 1: kevitch Elsa was a teen girl when she was lured
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Speaker 1: literally out of Christmas dinner. Her whole family gathered around
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Speaker 1: the table, lured out to go meet her online friend,
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Speaker 1: another boy she had met online her age. At first,
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Speaker 1: she thought it was a girl found out it was
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Speaker 1: a boy. She stepped outside to meet him. She was
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Speaker 1: immediately kidnapped and held hostage with a choke collar, raped repeatedly,
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Speaker 1: and just before the perp was set to kill her,
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Speaker 1: another child pornographer, having seen the photos of Alicia being
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Speaker 1: traded online, actually felt so bad he called the FBI
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Speaker 1: and her life was saved. We are asking for your
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Speaker 1: help today trying to find Caitlin. She has the mind
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Speaker 1: of a seven year old child, and she has been
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Speaker 1: lured and has been kidnapped. I'm with you on this
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Speaker 1: Ronad Black. We know, we believe his name is Chris.
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Speaker 1: We know he was driving a blue Dodge Magna, and
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Speaker 1: we know he either owns or drives the motorcycle we
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Speaker 1: see him pictured on. What kind of motorcycle is that?
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Speaker 1: Rhna Um I cannot, I would be. I'd be skeptical
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Speaker 1: or hesitant rather to say publicly what kind it is.
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Speaker 1: I've had got an inkling on what it might be,
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Speaker 1: but I'm okay, h what what do you think it
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Speaker 1: might be? Hale? I would well, it is a Harley.
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Speaker 1: I believe it is a Harley for sure, but I
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Speaker 1: actually am pinpointing down the exact model of first stru
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Speaker 1: first blush, I thought it was a Harley, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure why I thought that because I can't really
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Speaker 1: identify it. It's a solid black. What we think is that,
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Speaker 1: you greg, it's a black Harley, a big one too.
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Speaker 1: It's some kind of super glide or something. I don't
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Speaker 1: get it, uh, Kathleen Murphy trial lawyer joining us. We've
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Speaker 1: got we think his name Chris, a vehicle linked to him,
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Speaker 1: and a black Harley linked to him, and a pain
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Speaker 1: in or Lando? Why yeah? And Miami? Why can't they
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Speaker 1: catch the sky and a lot of and West Sparrow
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Speaker 1: and what and West Barrow, North Carolina because that's where
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Speaker 1: the beaches and that's where she did ping there. They
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Speaker 1: told me that when was the last ping that you
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Speaker 1: know on Caitlin's fan or Orlando or February that the
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Speaker 1: last ping. Yes, they're still waiting as of this morning.
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Speaker 1: The hit acto just told me that she's still waiting
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Speaker 1: for Instagram. Weren't for Instagram to send all the conversations
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Speaker 1: that they ever had to it? What are you learning
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Speaker 1: about the conversations, Lisa Benjamin, this is Caitlyn's mom. All
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Speaker 1: I know as of the one conversation that she had
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Speaker 1: with her brother in the Instagram conversation was that she
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Speaker 1: wanted to meet him alone, and he said, no, that
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Speaker 1: wasn't a good idea. And the guy sent those pictures.
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Speaker 1: The motorcycle picture and the blue picture are from my
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Speaker 1: son's Instagram conversation with them. And three days out this
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Speaker 1: man deleted his Instagram. Well, if he's got Insta, they
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Speaker 1: can't find the server that goes with it. No, they're
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Speaker 1: telling me they're still waiting on Instagram to get back
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Speaker 1: to them. Oh my god, who is today? Who is they?
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Speaker 1: Who is they? The detective the detective. Detective means say,
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Speaker 1: and that is with what agency? The Fayeville Sheriff's Department. Yeah, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: Instagram is notorious for not cooperating with law enforcement. That
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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me to hear them. Oh, dear Lord in heaven.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, what what shouldn't take that long
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Speaker 1: is to paying where her cell phone is Right now,
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Speaker 1: we haven't heard any information since February fifteen. Guys, take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our cut eleven from Jury File podcast,
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Speaker 1: Absolute Kick or Lky or meet Up and others have
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Speaker 1: been done elminating the headlines for some time, but no
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Speaker 1: one seems to notice. These headlines often do not make
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Speaker 1: it into your algorithm driven feeds, and people tend to
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Speaker 1: not see them. I encourage you, though, especially if you
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Speaker 1: have children, do a simple Google search, search kick, kik
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Speaker 1: and arrest click over on the NEWSTAB. When you do that,
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Speaker 1: and I guarantee you you'll find plenty of recent arrests
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Speaker 1: of suspects who have communicated with miners on kick. Not
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Speaker 1: only that, guys, I want to point out that the
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Speaker 1: number of predatoral relationships on social media is skyrocketing. Right now,
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Speaker 1: we know that flyers have been gone out on social
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Speaker 1: media with Caitlin's photo, also with the photo of who
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Speaker 1: we believe to be Chris, that is with right now
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Speaker 1: a photo of his motorcycle and the blue vehicle. This
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Speaker 1: is not anyone the family knows. This mom has not
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Speaker 1: heard from her daughter since Caitlin went missing. Won't you
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Speaker 1: help us? What I don't get it's why nothing is
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Speaker 1: being done on the case. Join with me to reach
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Speaker 1: Senior Sergeant Nicole Mintzi of the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office.
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Speaker 1: We are have repeatedly put the number up for you.
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Speaker 1: That number is nine one zero six seven seven five
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Speaker 1: five one four. We beg you, Sergeant, to bring in
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Speaker 1: the FBI to bring this girl home. Isn't it true, Lisa,
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Speaker 1: that when the Instagram messages were reviewed or other messages
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Speaker 1: from your daughter, the pet was asking her for documents. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he was asking her for her birth certific IT intial
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Speaker 1: security card to be with her. The tip line again
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Speaker 1: nine one zero six seven seven fifty five fourteen or
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Speaker 1: nine one zero four eight three eight four seven seven
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Speaker 1: help us bring Caitlin home. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing
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Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,