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  Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad
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  Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday Night
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  Speaker 1: episode in which we review the faves five picks we
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  Speaker 1: put into the contest, to sect why we left some
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  Speaker 1: games out, preview the early lines we already like for
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  Speaker 1: week fifteen. I'm joined as always by my calls, my companion,
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  Speaker 2: In Hello, Chad, how are we doing? Brother?
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  Speaker 3: I feel pretty good?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, you know, I feel like last week it was
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  Speaker 1: pure chaos before we submitted our picks. This week we
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  Speaker 1: didn't change a thing, and in the fourth quarter of
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  Speaker 1: the early games, in which we had three games, I
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  Speaker 1: was wishing we had because everything we believed about the
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  Speaker 1: games that we liked was not true at all through
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  Speaker 1: three quarters and then went almost exactly as we expected.
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  Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter. We will explain we had submitted
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings minus five and a half, the Dolphins minus
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  Speaker 1: five and a half, the Browns plus six and a half,
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  Speaker 1: and the Bears plus three.
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  Speaker 3: And a half.
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  Speaker 4: For the day.
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  Speaker 3: We are two and two.
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  Speaker 1: We have Kansas City minus four and a half tonight
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  Speaker 1: in the contest. They will of course be without lad
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with the.
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  Speaker 1: Game we love the most this week. The Vikings were
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  Speaker 1: my exact decision. They were your best bet. Unconvinced me
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  Speaker 1: this morning. We had them at five and a half
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  Speaker 1: in the contest. The final score was forty two to
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  Speaker 1: twenty one. Was tied to twenty one heading into the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, which was very frustrating. If you were a
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  Speaker 1: better watching this game, did you feel frustrated as well
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  Speaker 1: in that moment?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, more so frustrating the Vikings defense, where I feel
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  Speaker 5: like they just totally no showed on us. Like in
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  Speaker 5: that game, there was a bunch of opportunities on fourth
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  Speaker 5: downs for them to get stops, and they kept converting
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  Speaker 5: and then getting touchdowns off those drives, and it was
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  Speaker 5: just like, man, their defense can't get a stop, and
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  Speaker 5: then yeah, their offense I think at one point was
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  Speaker 5: being out gained by like one hundred and fifty yards
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  Speaker 5: right the Vikings. So I'm right there with you. Chad
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  Speaker 5: was not feeling good in the way through that third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: We liked this game a lot for two reasons. You
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  Speaker 1: just touched on both of them. We like Brian Flores
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  Speaker 1: in his defense against Kirk Cousins, and it was very
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  Speaker 1: ineffective to your point, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Back it up at that point.
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  Speaker 1: At that point through the three quarters, one sack of
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who we thought would be hounded and throw
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  Speaker 1: the game away as he has done the past few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: The Falcons were seven of thirteen on third downs in
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  Speaker 1: the game. They ran seventy plays, averaged seven point one
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  Speaker 1: yards per play, and Cousins threw for nearly.
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  Speaker 3: Three hundred and fifty yards. He did throw two picks.
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  Speaker 1: One of those did lead to the Vikings going up
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  Speaker 1: forty two to twenty one. It seemed like Tyler Algiers
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  Speaker 1: was doing whatever he wanted against the defense that we
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  Speaker 1: felt ranked really well, not felt statistically. You could see
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  Speaker 1: they ranked really well against the run, they ranked really
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  Speaker 1: well against inside runs, and Algiers was destroying them. They
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  Speaker 1: were aggressive and running up the middle. It made Brian
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  Speaker 1: Flores and his defense look very ineffective.
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  Speaker 3: It was very upsetting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I guess we've seen this season gone along here,
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  Speaker 5: teams have started to figure them out a little bit, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's fair to say at this point, because
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  Speaker 5: we've had a couple of weeks in a row here,
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  Speaker 5: they've given up a lot of points. Yeah, but they
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  Speaker 5: obviously get key stops because they've been incredible in these
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  Speaker 5: one score games this season. But yeah, that game totally
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  Speaker 5: flipped on its head just because of all the insane
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  Speaker 5: deep throws from Sam Donald that were just you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to call him fifty to fifty balls,
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  Speaker 5: but there were really two yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, look the the I said, we had two reasons
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  Speaker 1: we loved this game. One was Brian Flora's defense against
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. The second was Sam Donald, like he's been
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  Speaker 1: he's been dealing the past several weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: We felt like he was on an upswing, like he
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  Speaker 1: had had a little bit of a slump. We thought
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  Speaker 1: he was coming back down to earth and whatever they did,
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  Speaker 1: they figured something out and he's been incredibly effective. Jordan Addison,
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  Speaker 1: obviously being a very good number two receiver right now,
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  Speaker 1: had three time sushdowns today. Donald Today was the difference
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty eight, three forty seven five touchdowns, three
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  Speaker 1: to Jordan Addison, two to Justin Jefferson. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: this was while being constantly pressured by the Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: The Falcons had ten.
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  Speaker 1: Sacks as of two weeks ago. They have nine in
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  Speaker 1: the past two weeks. They have four this week, five
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  Speaker 1: last week. I don't know why all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: they're getting after the quarterback. But one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: we liked this game is we didn't think they'd pressured Donald. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: Donald was brilliant against the pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Impressive.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and just at the the day another day of
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  Speaker 5: I'm happy we doubted Kirk and faded Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, mean you definitely wait a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of like, has this.
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  Speaker 5: Number moved too much? Are we sure we want to
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  Speaker 5: bet this? Because you know, at one point it was
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  Speaker 5: down to four and a half, Like you said, the
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  Speaker 5: reason we didn't make any move, say, was because if
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  Speaker 5: we had, this would have been a six and a
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  Speaker 5: half number. Obviously didn't matter for this match, but there's
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  Speaker 5: a game coming up where it did, so Yeah, happy
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  Speaker 5: we didn't make a move obviously on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Gave it out six. I bet it all well, even
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  Speaker 2: up to six and a half.
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  Speaker 5: At one point it was just like I love this
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  Speaker 5: matchup because I just thought Kirk is going to struggle
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  Speaker 5: in this matchup. He didn't, like you said, until really
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  Speaker 5: late in that game, and then once he lost it,
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  Speaker 5: he just couldn't get it back. So yeah, good win
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  Speaker 5: by the Vikings. Semen.
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  Speaker 2: You know they're a team that there's a route for
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  Speaker 2: them to get this one seed.
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  Speaker 5: Pretty pretty incredible coach of the year right now for
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  Speaker 5: a team that you know, us sitting here right now
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  Speaker 5: with them being even in reach of that one seed
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  Speaker 5: is truly mind blowing to me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that division, the Packers, the Vikings, and the Lions,
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  Speaker 1: it's starting to feel like in any given Sunday division,
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  Speaker 1: right like what we saw with the Packers and the Lions.
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  Speaker 1: That was a great game and you truly felt like
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  Speaker 1: if the Packers had one more chance to get the ball,
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  Speaker 1: they would have scored. And it's why Dan Campbell did
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  Speaker 1: what he did in going forward and wanting to end
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  Speaker 1: the game on offense the way he did. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think that was a great call because all three
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  Speaker 1: of these teams, God, it's going to be fun to
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  Speaker 1: watch them like they are all so good and I'm
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  Speaker 1: so glad the Lions continue to pace because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like the Lions deserve to get the number one seed
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  Speaker 1: with all the injuries they've battled so they can be
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  Speaker 1: healthy in at full strength when they get to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Although we will talk about their game for next week
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  Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills, where there are two and a
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  Speaker 1: half point favorites, as we went on air.
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  Speaker 1: This game Cleveland plus six and a half at the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: This was the full three sixty Jamius experience, a lot
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  Speaker 1: like last week, only this time, Simon, we were on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of it, dude. We celebrated with him
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  Speaker 1: in the first quarter when he had a beautiful scramble
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  Speaker 1: through a beautiful ball on the run to Jerry Judy
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  Speaker 1: thirty five yard touchdown. Moments later, there was a bad
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  Speaker 1: pick while under pressure to a defensive lineman. The Steelers
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  Speaker 1: scored that go up ten to seven, never trailed again.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and then I just want to get your
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  Speaker 1: take before we get into like the catastrophe of.
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  Speaker 3: The final three minutes of this game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Still, though I don't put it on Jamis, I thought
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  Speaker 5: it to me, it falls onto one other player and
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  Speaker 5: the kicker that just totally screws that game, because yes, Jamis,
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  Speaker 5: he had his Jamis moments. We knew that going in
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  Speaker 5: that was going to happen. I mean, I was prepared
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  Speaker 5: for that mentally. I was ready for that stupid pick
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  Speaker 5: to that de lineman. No problem there, especially the way
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland's defense played. They played so well in that game overall. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the kicker totally changed the mentality of that game, Like
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  Speaker 5: he makes. Both of those kickers are in really crucial spots,
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  Speaker 5: especially the one before half, where that's such a different
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  Speaker 5: mentality being down three and a half rather than six,
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  Speaker 5: and then when he misses it again, it's like once again,
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  Speaker 5: now instead of being down one possession, they're down two possessions,
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  Speaker 5: which is just a thing that we've seen. Jamis isn't
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  Speaker 5: the best in these exact type of scenarios, So that
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  Speaker 5: was brutal and then yeah, the.
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  Speaker 3: Say yeah, don't say it yet.
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  Speaker 1: I want to set it up because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things happened, Like obviously, Dustin Hopkins he misses two field goals.
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  Speaker 1: They were down thirteen seven, This game could have been
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  Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen, right, and so he's missed three of his
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  Speaker 1: last nine field goal attempts, has missed eight this season
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  Speaker 1: after missing just three all of last year. But even
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  Speaker 1: with all of that, it's twenty seven to seven. The
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  Speaker 1: Browns score a touchdown, and it's Jamis time, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we got a shot at the back door.
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  Speaker 1: It's twenty seven to fourteen, about four minutes left. The
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  Speaker 1: Steelers fumble, the Browns recover two plays later.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what happens?
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming Jamis pick.
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  Speaker 1: Jamis threw a pick. Yeah, Jamis throws a pick. They
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  Speaker 1: are on the thirty five yard line of the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: The beauty of this was, you know, I was watching
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  Speaker 1: red zone and because none of these things were happening,
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  Speaker 1: sort of in scoring drives and the end of so
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  Speaker 1: many of the early games there were so many touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: and this Dolphins Jets game really took over sort of
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  Speaker 1: the dominant box for red zone. You didn't see any
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  Speaker 1: of this, like Steelers fumbling, jamis getting the ball, jamis
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  Speaker 1: throwing the pick. All we saw was Steeler down twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven fourteen, Steeler's up twenty seven fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: They're punting.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when we get to with three minutes left,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when we get to Simon.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Cadier's Tony Cadarius Tony. Yeah, And I thought give
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  Speaker 5: him some love, that Bill Barnwell or guy. He just
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  Speaker 5: had a really funny tweet about this exact scenario. So
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: his tweet was Canarius Tony played two snaps in the
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  Speaker 5: fourth quarter, both on special teams. First one was a
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  Speaker 5: fair catch and then he got flagged for taunting. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: next time he goes out there, he muscle punt, Steelers recover.
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  Speaker 2: Those are his two snaps in the fourth quarter on
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  Speaker 2: special teams.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you get flagged for taunting on a
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  Speaker 1: fair catch on a fair catch when you're down three touchdowns?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a fucking putts? I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: does this guy keep getting Like, honestly, how does this
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  Speaker 1: guy keep getting jobs?
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  Speaker 3: He flames out.
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  Speaker 1: As an absolute failure in every single place he goes,
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  Speaker 1: And like, if you were on the Chiefs and Andy
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  Speaker 1: Reid is like, I can't even deal with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why that should be the death knel
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  Speaker 1: for your career. There should be no one else who
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: wants to pick.
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  Speaker 5: You up, right, Yeah, I mean I don't get it,
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  Speaker 5: but I just I think teams, you know, at this point,
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  Speaker 5: they just get desperate and they allow themselves about the
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  Speaker 5: level of talent.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, he he is.
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  Speaker 5: Just it's incredible that he basically won that Chiefs that
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  Speaker 5: super Bowl that one year, like that kick return he
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  Speaker 5: had totally changed the dynamic of that game against the Eagles,
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  Speaker 5: and then since then he has just been awful in
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  Speaker 5: every aspect of his career. So, uh, yeah, that that
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  Speaker 5: was I'm mom where I switched it.
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  Speaker 2: I switched it off the TV I was watching.
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  Speaker 5: I moved it along to a different part of the
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  Speaker 5: sports book to watch a different part of the because
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  Speaker 5: I just said to myself, me and chattern't getting this
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  Speaker 5: back door now, Like I think they had the ball
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  Speaker 5: and that at that point they had the ball at
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  Speaker 5: I think the thirty of yea, yeah, Cleveland, and they
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  Speaker 5: just ran the clock out. Yeah, And that was that
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  Speaker 5: was just an awful, awful loss because I felt like
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  Speaker 5: there's so many different ways either could have won that
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  Speaker 5: game out right for Cleveland or just covered And yeah,
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  Speaker 5: now it's what Evan, twenty one years they have not
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  Speaker 5: won outright in Pittsburgh. I mean they won the playoff
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  Speaker 5: game obviously, so that's a regular season stat. But still
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  Speaker 5: it's it's pretty insane.
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  Speaker 1: That was like the back door was wide freaking open,
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  Speaker 1: and I firmly believed it.
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  Speaker 3: Firmly believed that.
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  Speaker 1: That was going to be a game that we covered
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  Speaker 1: right up until that Kadarias Tony fumble. The game that
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  Speaker 1: was the miracle of miracles. New York Jets at Miami Dolphins.
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  Speaker 1: We had the Dolphins minus five and a half. Honestly
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  Speaker 1: at three point thirty. If you had said to me,
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  Speaker 1: which game do you think you're most likely to cover?
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  Speaker 1: I probably would have said not the Vikings, not the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: I would have said the Browns because they were all
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  Speaker 1: like in various states of distress. But the Browns felt
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  Speaker 1: like they'd be going against a team that the back
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  Speaker 1: they'd be losing by losing, losing by so much it
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  Speaker 1: would be Jamis time where he just flings it and
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers are sort of done worrying about it. Instead
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  Speaker 1: we get the vikings and we get a miracle back
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  Speaker 1: door cover from the Miami Dolphins. Who these are the
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  Speaker 1: things that kill us most often in bets that we
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  Speaker 1: have missed pats and missed opportunity he's in the red zone.
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  Speaker 1: We had both of those with the Miami Dolphins in
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  Speaker 1: the first half.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, as always, I get what Miami fans questioned
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  Speaker 5: their head coach because the calling, the play calling down
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  Speaker 5: in the red zone to me just felt so egregious
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  Speaker 5: for the Miami team. It was just bizarre world. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's the type of game that I don't know. I
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: think it might have been the second quarter. At one
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  Speaker 5: point they said Rogers had two hundred yards and he's
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: on pace for his first three hundred yard game since
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. Yeah, well, me and chatter cooked if
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  Speaker 5: this is going to be the game that somehow he
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  Speaker 5: finally throws for three hundred, that's how bad your defense
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  Speaker 5: is right now. There's no way because like you just said,
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  Speaker 5: we were getting threes instead of getting touchdowns. That whole
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  Speaker 5: will start the game. And then they went watch had
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  Speaker 5: another quarter the whole third Crowder, No nothing from Miami's offense,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: they were dead and the Jets did with the Jets
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: have done all season. They just let them hang around.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: They just cannot close teams out this season. That's exactly
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: what happened. They had all these opportunities just to end
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: that game, closed it out, and they just kept giving
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: lifeline to that Miami team.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Man, well, we talked about Tua. Like Tua, he's playing well.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Like the fact that he finished his game with over
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: three yards and two touchdowns just shows that even on
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: a day where he's off, he's not really totally on
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: his game, you still you give him enough lifelines. He's
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: gonna find a way and he's gonna do it. So, yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Miami defense really bad. But yeah, once again two in
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: that offense comes to saves a day and the Jets team,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: it's historical, these meltdowns. And we joked about their professionals.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: They got their cover at the six and a half.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: We thanked them for moving it to five and a half.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: We got a bunch of money on that. And the
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: books are the ones crying because they're basically I mean,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: even before we started our show this morning, I remember
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: it was still six and then while we were doing
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: our show and moved to six and a half.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So obviously some people got.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Burned by the line movement, but yeah, for the most part,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: it just seemed like the books got crushed by the middle.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny you mentioned the Dolphins in
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the red zone. They're just not a physical football team,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Like they have no power, right, and so you get
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in the red zone, you just cannot convert where it's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: all about owning the line of scrimmage in scrum like situations.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking about when I was watching
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: this game, Like, they have no ability to bull rush anybody,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and so if the motion isn't confusing people, which luckily
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they were playing the Jets, so it did confuse people,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: then they have no ability to score, right. And we
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: got lucky with back to back to back miracles on
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a day where for the first time in thirty five games,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers through for three hundred yards. He was mobile,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: he in the pocket and rolling out. He was connecting
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: with DeVante Adams like it was December and Lambeau ten
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: years ago. Then we got Miami scoring a touchdown and
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the two point conversion. They gave up a field goal
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: down three so they were down three with fifty six
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: seconds left. Then we had three miracles. We get a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: huge run back on the kickoff to their own forty six.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: We get a fifty two yard field goal from Jason Sanders,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: who had already kicked a fifty seven yard field goal today.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Then we win the toss. And I got to tell
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you when they won the toss, I'm like, we're going
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to cover this game?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Did you think that?
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just because I always had that theory about the
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: defense in that exact scenario just being cooked right that
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: it's a hot, hot day down in Miami, like we
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: were talking about, and now after you just gave up
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: that heartbreaking field goal at the end of the game
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: for it to go to eight, now you have to
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: go back on the field. And yeah, that I mean,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: there was like I think the commentary joke they were
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: in the same play back to back, did you know
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Smith the tight end, because that's how cooked the Jets
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: defense was. It was like, even if they see this coming,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: we don't think they're gonna be ale to run outsid
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: because they're all their legs are just so heavy.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And that's what happened.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: It was two huge plays with Juno Smith and a
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: couple of Wattle, Tyreek Hill got all the way down there,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: and yeah, it's just like I said, Tua.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: He had his bad moments in this game, but.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Overall he's just I mean, it's crazy how bad QB
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: plays in this league, where it's like I would feel
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: lucky to have two of my team. I know we
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: may find it as a contract, but it's like there's
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: so much bad out there that two. From game to game,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: he is just he's better than at least fifteen or
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: the other quarterbacks to starting this league, no doubt about it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: He's super consistent. It's why we liked the Dolphins in
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: this game. He's super consistent. He's so accurate. They're not
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the same explosive team that they've been. They run so
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: many more crossing routes and so many more plays where
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get to Waddle and Tyreek Hill
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and have them make plays after they catch, which they did.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Today first first pass of the game.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: This was great.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I was feeling really good after this first.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Pass of the game to Waddle, Wattle runs, gets it,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: catches it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Runs the twenty yard game and then it's a personal
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: file on the Jets very first pass play of the game.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is going to be a great day
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: right up until the Dolphins forgot how to score in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the red zone.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: But you know what, at the end of the day
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: worked out for us.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So we were two and one after all that drama
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: heading into the last game of the early slates before
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the Sunday night football game. We in Chicago plus three
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and a half at the Niners. I think we both
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: knew we were stepping in it this morning.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: A little bit. It was more I was shocked. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: I thought we had talked and we talked Carolina on Thursday,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: so I definitely think you took the exact decision and
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: put the Bears in Thursday.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, because it was three and a half.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: We liked we liked Carolina, but we both said we
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: wanted Carolina at thirteen and a half, and it was
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a twelve and a half in the contest.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: On Thursday, it was definitely a game though, like exactly
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: what you just said, I I didn't really bet at that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Heavy, and then this morning when it was popped up,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: it was just the line had moved to three at
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that point, so it's just like we already had it
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: in the contest.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: It was like, well, we have good value on it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Are we really going to switch out this game? And
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: then had to switch out maybe Miami and the Vikings
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: because at the time they had both moved to bad numbers, so.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: We would have had to Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it sucks where It's like we knew we
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: saw that a mile away. On Tuesday, we talked like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: that's the Funnies is the spot we historically had played,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: just like the Rams were today where it's like this
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: season it just beat us up so bad that we
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: kind of got spooked off by both those games. And
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: those are old school spots, just like that Carolina was
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: an old school spot like those those games stand between
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: those games, it's just historically, you see those teams have
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: letdown games, and we saw today this this Bears team,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: even even if we were hoping for a coach bump,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: it just looked from the get go that Perty was
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: just on one, like he came out firing with him
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: and Kittle, that connection was unreal. Start the game and
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: you know, they get out to a fast lead. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: still thought we had a chance. They'll be honest, yet
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: just because the fort and Arrows have been best so
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: bad in the second half, and the Bears have been
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: so good the second half, and maybe we had a
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: chance at it. But then I think that strip sacked
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: fumble yeah by Caleb put the.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: End of that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: But what is the tenth traight games now? Caleb no
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: no interception, So yeah, the Bears. It's it's at this
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: point you wanted better draft picks, so who cares? That
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: would have been nice obviously to get a winner for
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: firing your coach, but overall, it's like you know that
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: you were not You're not as bad as you look today,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: and the forty Niners are not as good as they
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: look today. But that was just a meeting of two
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: teams that you can tell the different level of coaching
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: on both teams.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: In this exact game, the Bears had five punts in
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the first half to your point of not looking as bad,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: they had four total yards high punts four yards. The
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Niners had three hundred and twenty.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like at this point I've seen enough out
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: of Kleb. I know he can be a legit first
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: rate quarterback. I just want the Bears to keep losing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I just want him to lose get as good a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: pick as possible.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: You know, we all know. I grew up in Chicago.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: My mom moved to the Bay Area about fifteen years ago.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: My sister lives in the Bay Area. She had twins.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: She has fifteen year old twins and a younger kid
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: who's going to be thirteen. And when my mom moved,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: my mom moved out there to be closer to my sister.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And so my mom called me this afternoon and she's like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: trash talking me about the Bears.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, she's like, oh, I'm so sorry you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: turned it over. I'm like, hey, what the fuck are
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you talking about? You rooted for the Bears for forty
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: years living in Chicago. Why are you trash talking me
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: right now about the Bears? And then second, I'm like, Mom,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: this is exactly what I want. If you want to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: root for the Niners, go ahead, But I want the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Bears to look bad and I want Caleb Williams to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: look good. This is my only goal right now. So
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you know it's not working out for you as much
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: as you want to trash talk me right now. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: then I told her I had to go because I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: was just upset about the whole conversation. Yeah, let's just
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: say we're not going through a walk for a walk
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: through the botanical gardens like you do with your auntie
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: anytime soon. Okay, not until she calls and apologizes trying
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to get under my skin. Look, I think this game
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was like a last resort pick because we couldn't come
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to consensus and a lot of different things, Like we
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: loved Minnesota, we loved Green Bay on Thursday Night. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: think those were the two games that we loved the most,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and we obviously couldn't put Green Bay in. You liked Buffalo,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I like the Rams. We both liked the Panthers, but
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: we agreed that the number what we were going to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: wait until we get I don't know if.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I agreeed to because I'm looking at my notes right here.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: But then my five games I put in, I literally
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: said on the show was the Panthers.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't have that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I said it on the show, though, I know
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: for a fact, because I haven't literally written right here
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: in my notes I'm looking at because I wanted to double.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Check because I was like, it started right that, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I'd say, and.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Maybe you're right, Maybe I was like, well, I want
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: us to get a better number on Sunday, But yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: that just sucked. We missed on it because you knew,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know midway through the second quarter that that
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: game was going to come down to possession. Bryce Shung
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: just played really well overall in that Eagles game. So yeah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: that was a bad miss by me and not forcing
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: that one, and just because we just knew that was
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: just such a letdown spot for the Eagles team and
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: this Panther team. The books we've set it for weeks now.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: They haven't caught up to align with this team. They're
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: just not what they were early in the season. They
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: keep being undervalued and maybe next week they'll catch up
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: to them.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting line next week.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: But I feel like they have and I feel like
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: we already missed it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this one was pretty crazy.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: It got up to fourteen right before kickoff, so yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: good good number to bet if anyone got it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one more game that we could have put in,
• 28:30
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• 28:35
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• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's very important right now that someone come
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: on this show and given me a call PA. So
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to invite Matt Mitchell. He's going to apologize
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to me for berating me when I wanted to choose
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the Giants, Simon. I felt like you were delicate and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: thoughtful and sensitive and gave me the feedback that you
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: normally give when you feel I'm going astray, which is like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: are you sure? And you know you gave me some
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: good points, and I backed away and made Minnesota my
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: exec decision. Matt was grinchy and belligerent and then on
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the show mocked me with little drops on the show
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: after my giants picked yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah he did,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and then he was so proud of it. He slacked
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: me to say, hey, did you hear that drop? Fans
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: loved it. Fans loved and dropped out the Giants. So Matt,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: if you want to come on right now and just
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: sort of, you know, apologize, I'd appreciate that. I think
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: all the listeners would appreciate that. Because the Giants covered
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: they're five and a half point number.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: That's true, they did, and of course I apologize to you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I serve at the pleasure of our audience. I always have.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the many fans, including our super fan Brendan
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: O'Neill of the O'Neill family. I'll reached out. Yeah, we
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: love the O'Neals. He was most appreciative of the of
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: the slander and being spared the point of view that
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: was the point of view of the Favorites podcast, that
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: the Giants were a fun and smart bat. But yes,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, sorry that I was so quote grinchy
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to you, Sorry that I hurt your feelings. Those also
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: lost Today Sean McDermott aka Sean Schottenheimer showed his ass
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: again today. It's been a band of weekend for me.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: So yeah, congratulations, I'm so sorry. Hopefully we can pick
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: up the shattered pieces of our relationship and reassemble them
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: in Philadelphia.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: The city of brother they love.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Simon Matt's been very grinchy lately. I'm excited for you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to see him in Philadelphia. So I'm excited for everyone
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to see him in Philadelphia, and I want everyone to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: ask him Matt, why are you so grinchy? If we
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: can get a couple hundred people to go up to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell and just constantly ask him why is in
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: such a bad mood all the time recently, and maybe
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: try to make him feel better, that will make my night.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Anyone who comes up to me and says, I just
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: asked Matt Mitchell, why is in such a bad mood?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: We're going to figure out what your gift is for sure?
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: All the money this was a total de Yeah.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know about you, Chad, but if I had
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: a fireplace in my office, I'd be pretty happy all
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So that's that's where I'm at with it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Well, he's fine on a lot of ways to be grinchy,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: all right. We got to look at some week fifteen
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: lines I mentioned, you know, we got the Thursday night
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: football watch party next week. So Rams and Niners was
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: at two and a half when we went on air.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's at now. My initial instinct
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: on that the Rams were two and a half point dogs.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Their win over the Bills obviously significantly more impressive to
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: me than the Niners win over the Bears, but it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: also makes me feel like it could be a good
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: time to fade the Rams because it was such a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: monumental win.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: You got thoughts on this one.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't this easy? Easy? Bed?
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: Forty nine ers under three take when you count? I
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: think most books are gonna get down to two one
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: and a half. Like it feels like you might not
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: need a rush to get it if you don't want to,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: just because of what Chad just said, Like that was
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: by far the best game of the year by matth
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Stafford and that offense. I mean, it was incredible how
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: good they were. And yeah, the no one in the
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: public's gonna be buying this forty nine ers team, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I'll grab it now. I mean, Evan's gonna have some
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: amazing trends for us up this couple coming week about
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: this forty nine Erson against his Rams team and just Shanahan,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: it's it's usually his spot they win.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Right spot.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it feels like they always match up well
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: against him, and he just historically, even when his team
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: wasn't that good and mcvay's team was good, he usually
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: beat him. And now it feels like they're pretty even
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: for the most part. I know that people think overall
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: that the Rams are a better team. But I still
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: think this forty nine Ers team overall is a is
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: a better team. So uh yeah, cheah, this is a
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: game I'll just be patient on. I mean, I'm looking
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: at it live right now, Beth through six five. It's
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: town of minus two, so you're right open two and
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: a half. Yeah, before we even started this morning, it
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: was three. So yeah, it's moved to full point. That's
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: not public money, that's profession money. Me.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: People are going to be so impressed with the Rams win.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It's just gonna money is gonna come in on the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Rams like we're gonna have We're gonna have the opportunity
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to bet this at a much better number.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: We talked about the Panthers.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: They literally at seven o'clock, seven to fifteen before we
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: came on one and a half point underdogs to the Cowboys.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: As I opened the app, it's seven thirty. Just to
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: double check some lines that I was interested in, it
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: moved to Panthers minus one. Now it's minus one and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a half. So we'll have a longer conversation on Tuesday.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's already flipped from Panthers as
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a dog the Panthers a favorite, which is always a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: tricky and dicey spot to play.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's right, Like, I'm positive I'm gonna have
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: this line at minus two and a half minus three
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: for this Panthers team.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So I'm excity to see what I do have it at.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't mind it going up and weekend
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: come on the Cowboys because the lines moved too much.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: But right now, the early movement that that sounds right
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: to me. It's just the Panthers. They're a totally different
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: team they were early in the year, and they're a
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: team playing with confidence even though they shouldn't be. It's
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: it's really impressive what that coaching staff has done. And
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: even their defense today, like they were outmatched in every
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: way and they played hard all the way to the
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: very end. So yeah, just I would say, I can't
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: believe this, But as a Panthers fan, how are you
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: not excited about the future right now?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Like nice young there's a lot you can build off
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: of with this kid. And yeah, I know today was.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: His best I think it was nineteen oh thirty four,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: but you saw he was doing with a guy like
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Adam Feeling where It's like if he has a smart
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: receiver that knows how to follow him when he's moving
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: and running outside the pocket and getting downfield, he's a
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: good weapon. Like he keeps his head downfield and he
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: can find open guys. So yeah, that that guy who
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: bet that three million dollars. Yeah, he must be praising
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: the guy for that drop by the get at the
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: end of that game, because that felt like that was that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Was going to be it and there about to win
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: So they were a leget drop away from winning that game. Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and no like like criticism of Aget, It was a
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: really hard catch.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: It was a great throw.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I can it's impossible not to be impressed with how
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young has been playing. And we thought, I mean,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: we also talked about we were a little bit nervous
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that this defense was so good for the Eagles and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: their defensive line was so good, they would just be
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a different experience for the Panthers than we had seen
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: in their previous games, even against the Chiefs a little bit,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: because the chief secondary isn't as good. So I do
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: remember a lot of hesitation because now I'm feeling like
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a little annoyed that I didn't put the Panthers in.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: But we had a lot of hesitation.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, you can just want to piggyback right off
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: of that one. I mean, the Eagles right now chatter
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: minus four and a half against Pittsburgh, I know, And
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: that's like, isn't everyone in their grandma'm going to bet
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: the four and a half? Who's not betting the Pittsburgh
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: four and a half? So that is one of ther
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: fishier lines I've seen. Like, to me, that was that
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: was a hang three And if you need to move
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: to three and a half, you do, and if you
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: if you need Philly money, you move to two and
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: a half. They just they put it right at four
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: and a half. That's that's the book taking a stand
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: making a statement there.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: So seriously, that's that's pretty impressive.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: They they they did that, and maybe they think Pickens
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: is gonna play again because I mean, obviously today didn't
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: really matter for them, but like we know that's a
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: big deal for that Pittsburgh team having Pickens, and yeah,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: like that's the number. I haven't bet either side yet,
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: but like I am really having a hard time not
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: betting Pittsburgh right now because I know it's it's something
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: something just feels off. But four and a half, that's
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: that's crazy. They opened up that high.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: That game obviously is in Philadelphia, Uh they sat, Uh
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: so the news coming in hold on a couple of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: things I got.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Since November first, Carolina's five and zero against the spread,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: so the only undefeated team against the spread since November first. Also,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Gifford is telling us in the chat that the Steelers
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: sat George Pickens for next week, so he'll be ready
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: for next week. That makes the four and a half
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: feel even higher to me.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a lot of respect to an
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Eagles team that I don't know if it deserves that
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: much respect.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I think people feel the same way you and I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: did last week, like that defensive line is fierce, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so I do think that's something that people are getting
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: in their head. Obviously it at least for me, I'll
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: take the blame here. It played too much into it,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: which is why we put the Bears in.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: But whatever, we're moving on.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna, you know, hopefully it works out tonight with
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and yes, sir, it'll be okay. Houston is
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: two and a half point favorite at home against Minnesota.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I mean against Miami. We know how to plays against
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: bad teams. Houston has been on a bye Miami on
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the road. I eleen Houston here.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's it's it's a two, A two, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: a couple of books now Houston. So wow, Yeah, early
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: professional money on Miami. That's another very confusing LINEA.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I agree. Why why is this line not three Houston?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I guess we perceive that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: You know, they're coming off a bye week planning against
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: the Miami team who's now on the road after going
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: to overtime. Don't we expect this to be a nice
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: spot for the Texans. But yeah, I'm yeah, and a
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: fishy number. It's like my my, My initial reaction is
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: I want to take Houston here, but I'll be patient
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: just because clearly a.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Smart group is coming and take Miami at the two
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: two and a half.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Three more games for me, Indie plus four at Denver.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I just feel like we got very lucky with Denver
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the way they covered last week, and four feels like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a really big number for them still to be favored
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: by against the Colts team that is very well coached
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: coming off of by.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, it's interesting.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: I'll probably dive into the splits what Anthony Richison is
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: at home compared on the road, because he's been really
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: good to us, especially at home. This cold team this year,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: like we've gotten away with a lot of that where
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: they've not definitely not been the same. I mean they
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: literally almost just lost outright to the Patriots on the road.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: So maybe that's something the same thing with that Bears team.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: We've I talked about with you weeks ago with you
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: that Caleb Williams and the Bears are a different team
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: on the road than they are at home. Like it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: some teams just are that way, and it's it played out,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: especially today with that with the Bear team.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: So I'll be interested dive into the splits.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: That's another one I'll hold off on, Benning because I
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: agree with you first glance this should be three to
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: three and a half. I feels you are goin a
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: free point on that cold team, So I agree there
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: seems like there's a value right now in this Colts team.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I love when you agree with me.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Uh, why is Seattle a three point underdog at home
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: versus Green Bay? We didn't know what Seattle was, Yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: but I feel like their defense has been much better,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: much much better since the buye. They've made a lot
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: of changes. They tackle better, Uh, they're better against the run,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: they're better against the past like it. I couldn't be
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: more impressed with Mike McDonald. And we've seen offenses go
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: up and down the field against the green Bay defense
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and Gino is not afraid to fling it. So this
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: feels weird to me that green Bay would go on
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the road as a three point favorite. I think they're
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: getting too much credit in this game.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: That's fair, But I mean we talked about a reason
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I like the Vikings say is that your your division
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: is so fucking good, check like, and you beat up
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: on these teams outside of your division like they don't.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: It's not something where like we've seen other divisions that
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: they struggle when they play out outside of conference, like
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: even the good teams. So yeah, Like, to me, green Bay,
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: especially after that Lions game, like they're a LEGITI playoff team,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Like they didn't have their best game against the Lions
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: and they almost stolen won that game.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Right right, And.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: I still put them on a different level I do
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks. Seahawks feel like a six to seventh seed
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: that they could steal their division this year just because
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: it's a down year for the Rams and the forty
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: nine ers. Right, they could get away with one here.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: But today I thought made a statement more about just
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: that that Kyler and that Cardinals team just ain't there yet, right,
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: They're They're just not ready.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: And Gino has.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: Proven even though he wasn't didn't have his best game,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: he's he's a veteran quarterback who has earned what they
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: gave him those months ago. Right, they might win this division,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: and that's a big deal. They fired Pete Carroll, Like
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: you said, this defense has totally flipped the script since
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: their bye week, and they've they really take on the
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: entity of their head coach. So yeah, the three is gone.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: It's down to two and a half most books now, So.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: See how sharp I am, Like I'm coming out on
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the early line and like I'm saying which way the lines,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: which what we should be doing here? The lines are
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: going in my direction every single time.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: But I do with agree with the green Baby in
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: a favorite.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: I do think that from the book's perspective of my perspective,
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: I think that is right that they're.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: A better team that at home.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: I'd have them in the playoffs if they had played
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Seahawks at home in the playoffs.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I have it close to the five and a half six.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: So this line feels right.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: The other game we got to talk about, and then
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure we talk about and maybe
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: this is in your list Detroit Buffalo, Detroit's.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Two and a half point favorite the game of the week. Yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: give me the lines.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm shocked. That's plus three, Like the lines open
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: plus three, I mean minus three. If it gets a
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: two and a half, I'll take I'll take the lines
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: with you. But at three I saw two and a half. Yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: two and a half. I would take the lines.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: At three.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I lean towards Josh Allen. I mean, we just saw
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: it today. It's like he's never gonna stop coming. And
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: Dan Campbell, we already know the deal. Chad, It's all
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: gonna come down to him and what their fourth down
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: record is. If they're three for five on fourth down,
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: I'm feeling pretty good about holding that Josh Allen ticket.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Like the two of those fourth downs are gonna miss on.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: He's gonna make them pay, especially coming off a loss.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: He's just Josh Allen's at a different level right now.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: I cannot believe if you bet that second half he
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: came back and cover that, Like the Rams basically played
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: a perfect game offensively and one by two. He is
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: just he's at that Mahomes level like we talked about
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: years ago with Mahomes, it's like you're never dead and
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: you bet on this guy and it's like a gift
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: right now betting on them where it's like, I still
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: can't believe he came back and covered that second half.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you can tell I want to be on
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: the Bills. I just this Lions team, Like we talked
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: about that Green Bay number. Anything under three mean you
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: we're gonna be on the Lions. We said that from
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: the get go, but if it was over three, that's
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: where the value was, and that's where it was again.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: So for a team that's not gonna be able to
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: stop back doors, I'm gonna I'm gonna want to be
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: on the Bills.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Here who you got.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Just before we go? Yeah?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Who else am I missing?
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: I Mean we pretty much went to the best games,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: just the games that just jumped out for, you know,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: playoff games that we didn't really talk about. Chargers Bucks
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: Chargers are minus three against this Bucks team. I'm gonna
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: take that Bucks number now just in case this Chargers
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: team gets smoked and this number drops, because that's another
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: game that feels priced.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Right. I got Chargers right around two.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: It makes sense that the book hangs are three here
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: and yeah, the last one for me, I mean it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: it's it's gross. But Browns are plus six right now
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: against the Chiefs.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So I put that on my list. By the way,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it was six and a half when I put it
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: on the list. It's come down. Yeah, I just didn't
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: know if we had the stomach for another Jamis experience.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I have a snooker.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Jamis just not that kicker man, because it's just in
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: a game. Socially like the Chiefs, that's probably gonna matter.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: But as we city right now, it's just like, that's
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: that's so many points for this team right now.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: And this this Cleveland team that we saw today, they're
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: never done.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: You really have to have them have a bunch of
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: other things back go negative for them to kind of
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: be out of it. So that was just a game
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: to jumped down. I know we've been on a run
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: here fading the Chief's team. Maybe they'll come the other way,
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: and maybe they're starting to be undervalued here. So that's
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: again not one that I bet. I'm just I just
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: thought it was interesting that they opened at six and
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: a half.
• 47:29
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