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11-9 H4: MMQB w/ Hugh Millen Con't & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Now back to the Monday Morning Quarterback with Chuck in
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  Speaker 1: the Morning and Hugh Millen. Brought to you by Muckleshoot
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  Speaker 2: Alright, turn the mic on. Great to have you with us.
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  Speaker 3: It is Chuck in the Morning Sports Radio 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 3: FM and it is a beautiful Monday in the Pacific
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  Speaker 3: Northwest and on Mondays after Seahawks games it's all about
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  Speaker 3: our Monday morning quarterback session with Hugh Millen.
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  Speaker 2: We're already an hour into it and.
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  Speaker 3: We have much more to discuss from the Hawks 17-3
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  Speaker 3: win over the Cardinals on Sunday to improve the team
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  Speaker 3: to 5-4 on the year. And it was a game, Hugh,
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  Speaker 3: that felt comfortably in hand really from the jump. But
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  Speaker 3: if there was a moment where you were wondering, are
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  Speaker 3: they really going to get back into this game? Are
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  Speaker 3: they going to make me climb to the edge of
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  Speaker 3: my seat.
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  Speaker 2: Before this is over?
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  Speaker 3: It was a 14-play drive that ended up first and
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  Speaker 3: goal from the four-yard line. And that was the Cardinals'
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  Speaker 3: chance to get back into the game, maybe win the game,
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  Speaker 3: and yet the Seahawks put together a stop inside the
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  Speaker 3: five-yard line. So I figured we'd pick up that drive
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  Speaker 3: right there at the four, unless there's a spot that
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  Speaker 3: you wanted to grab it earlier. But a first and
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  Speaker 3: goal from the four, an Algier run where I described
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  Speaker 3: it as slung down by DeMarcus Lawrence for a two-yard loss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would.
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  Speaker 4: Say the three plays, because that drive started at the
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  Speaker 4: 23 with 10.43 to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And there was three plays. You had an over route
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  Speaker 4: where Seattle just kind of left McBride open for 19 yards.
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  Speaker 4: That was a breakdown in zone. And then you had
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  Speaker 4: the interference call that we talked about, Job. That was
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  Speaker 4: another one we didn't talk about with the Gordon Herders
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  Speaker 4: last segment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, McBride is I think he's smart enough that
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  Speaker 4: he realized there's contact and he wasn't going to catch
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  Speaker 4: it if he just falls down in front of the
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals sideline. Yeah, that all you have to do is
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  Speaker 4: fall down and then they'll assume that you got held.
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  Speaker 2: And so I wasn't too happy about that one. That
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  Speaker 2: was a, that was a con job. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was, I almost picked that one by the way,
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  Speaker 2: for the one you asked me. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Redford and Newman could do a movie about that. Um, but,
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  Speaker 4: but then, uh, the fate, and then you had the
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  Speaker 4: fade ball, the beautiful, you know, where we, I think
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  Speaker 4: all three of us, we just tip our hats to the, uh,
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  Speaker 4: the Cardinal principles in that, that, that, that was a
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  Speaker 4: hell of a throw by Minshew and a hell of a,
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  Speaker 4: a play by, um, by McBride. As Freud said, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: a cigar is just a cigar. That is just a team,
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  Speaker 4: an opponent making a great play. Those are the three
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  Speaker 4: plays that got you down. The first down play, here's
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  Speaker 4: the thing, guys. Marcus Lawrence gets a tackle. Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 4: asked about what a great play it was. It wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a great play. The Cardinals totally busted their blocking scheme,
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  Speaker 4: the right tackle blocked down, and then they motioned the
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  Speaker 4: receiver down and the tight end, and the tight end
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  Speaker 4: in all likelihood probably should have blocked down, but possibly
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  Speaker 4: they want the wide receiver to insert in there in
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  Speaker 4: the C-gap. I'm not in the wide receiver and tight
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  Speaker 4: end meeting room for the Cardinals, but I do know this.
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  Speaker 4: They busted that blocking scheme. Lawrence was totally unblocked. So
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  Speaker 4: you go from first and goal at the four to
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  Speaker 4: second and goal at the six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Second and goal at the six. And then that's the
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  Speaker 3: Minshew play where I wrote down in my notes, he
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  Speaker 3: P blank, blank, blank.
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  Speaker 2: Well, guess what? I don't have blanks.
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  Speaker 4: I have the same P word and it's all spelled
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  Speaker 4: out in its glory.
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  Speaker 6: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Lovely.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a good time describing and not, you know,
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  Speaker 4: photocopying and sending.
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  Speaker 2: Well done.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Now, they got into an empty– that was
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback draw. They got into empty, and Minshew was able– look,
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  Speaker 4: he's not very athletic, but he's able to make Jake
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  Speaker 4: Thomas miss. And then now you've got the moment of
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  Speaker 4: truth here. You've got Witherspoon coming over who's sub-190 pounds.
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  Speaker 4: And Minshew, I'm guessing, he's got to be over 220.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a thick dude. So I think he's
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  Speaker 4: for sure giving up 25 pounds. or has a 25-pound
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  Speaker 4: advantage from the Minshew perspective, possibly pushing 30. And yet
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  Speaker 4: he just goes into the fetal position in one of
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  Speaker 4: the more embarrassing plays I've seen by an NFL football
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  Speaker 4: player in a long damn time to be down there
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  Speaker 4: at the two-yard line. The one thing you could say
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  Speaker 4: is the only saving grace for him is they were
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  Speaker 4: down 14 points. Could you imagine if they were only
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  Speaker 4: down a touchdown?
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  Speaker 2: And he did that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So at an event, yeah. It didn't seem like him.
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  Speaker 2: That's for sure. What's that?
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  Speaker 3: It didn't seem like him. I mean, that's one of
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  Speaker 3: the traits of him is that he'd do anything to win.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the things that gets players to rally
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  Speaker 3: around him. But it was just a folding, like he
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  Speaker 3: was a lawn chair folding at the two-yard line.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you would think, okay, I was trying to think, okay,
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  Speaker 4: if Kirk Cousins did that, you know, he's skinnier, he's older.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, maybe I can understand it, but when, you know, you,
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  Speaker 4: you just lost your, your George card. You can never
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  Speaker 4: wear George again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he must have a Harley, right?
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  Speaker 2: So he's got to give that up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know, man. He just, he, he lost
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  Speaker 4: his man card. And I haven't said that in 28
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  Speaker 4: years on the radio, but that, that was, that was embarrassing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was embarrassing that he had a Jorts
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  Speaker 4: card to begin with. Somehow I got to find a
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  Speaker 4: way to bust Ian.
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  Speaker 2: Say it again? I missed it, what?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was embarrassing that he had a Jorts
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  Speaker 3: card to begin with.
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  Speaker 2: He stood in line for that. At Old Navy. I
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  Speaker 2: think the entire analysis should just stop right there. I
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  Speaker 2: think you nailed it better than me.
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  Speaker 3: All right, third and goal from the two. Then he
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  Speaker 3: goes incomplete to Michael Wilson. Nothing in particular stood out
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  Speaker 3: to me about that play, but I'm sure it did
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he was looking, Minshew was looking
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  Speaker 4: to his right, and they were trying to get a
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  Speaker 4: rub with the back and the flat. That was the
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  Speaker 4: primary receiver. That's the first guy in the read. And
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  Speaker 4: they were trying to get it with a pick. And
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  Speaker 4: credit Drake Thomas, who we've heard Mike McDonald tell a
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  Speaker 4: pre-production meeting audience that he thinks that Drake Thomas is
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  Speaker 4: the smartest player he's ever coached.
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  Speaker 2: So lock that in, because I have.
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  Speaker 4: And when I see Drake Thomas making a smart play
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  Speaker 4: sifting through, being aware of the pick that was trying
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  Speaker 4: to get him for the touchdown. Drake Thomas goes over
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  Speaker 4: the top, covers it beautifully. Now Minshew comes back. It's
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  Speaker 4: man-to-man coverage. Eamon Worry had a stack that was difficult
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  Speaker 4: for him to have to wade through. Any defender would
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  Speaker 4: have had a hard time. He was in a trail position.
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  Speaker 4: He was at least a step behind Minshew. probably close
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  Speaker 4: it a little bit, and then with his length, maybe
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  Speaker 4: it spooked Minshew, and he kind of lobbed the ball,
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  Speaker 4: but the guy who had been doing the pick on
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  Speaker 4: the front side of the play, as I described to
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  Speaker 4: the right, Minshew had to throw it over him because
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  Speaker 4: he was in the line of sight, so it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: an ideal sight lane for Minshew. He would have liked
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  Speaker 4: to have just driven the ball, but he had to
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  Speaker 4: kind of lob it and And so those were the
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  Speaker 4: factors that created the incompletion. I think a top-level quarterback
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  Speaker 4: play would have found a touchdown there.
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  Speaker 3: And then finally, fourth and goal from the two, that
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  Speaker 3: was Minshew trying to get it to McBride, and Eamon
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  Speaker 3: Worry was worn like a blanket.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yes, he was.
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  Speaker 4: But I think McBride, as great as he is, he
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  Speaker 4: kind of hitched and did just a slight outside lean
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  Speaker 4: and then back in right there. if, if the timing
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  Speaker 4: would have been right, I, I don't, I'm not even
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  Speaker 4: sure if Eamon Worry had the length to, to get
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  Speaker 4: the pass breakup. So, um, because it was, it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: at the height of, of offensive precision, uh, and it
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  Speaker 4: was just a little bit late, uh, and the ball
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  Speaker 4: was out wider. Why was it out wider? This, the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks ran a stunt where, where are my notes here?
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  Speaker 4: They ran a stunt with, um, Jaron Reed on the
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  Speaker 4: inside and DeMarcus Lawrence on the outside. That momentarily induced
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  Speaker 4: Minshew to start to break the pocket to the right.
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  Speaker 4: And yet now Jaron Reed is coming back around. So Minshew,
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  Speaker 4: the timing was off because Minshew started to move in
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  Speaker 4: the manner I described there. And so because he's moving
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  Speaker 4: to his right, throwing to a stationary target in McBride
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  Speaker 4: on that hook, The ball is going to tail to
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  Speaker 4: the right because Minshew's running to his right, and he
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  Speaker 4: didn't calculate for that. He should have thrown it more
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  Speaker 4: to the inside, and so it was late and to
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  Speaker 4: the outside. I think if it was on time and
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  Speaker 4: to the inside. inside, it's a touchdown. But that's what
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's counting on. He's like, okay, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to be exacting in the margins. You're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to be dead perfect to beat us. Because if
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  Speaker 4: you're even off by a centimeter, Eamon Worry's going to
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  Speaker 4: make the play. And that's exactly how it played out.
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  Speaker 4: It was the sealer at that point. They just ran
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  Speaker 4: out the clock after that with Charbonnet and 17-3 ends
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  Speaker 4: up being the final score. Well, just to kind of
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  Speaker 4: bring back our original topic, I think that anybody that's
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  Speaker 4: tuning in right now would like to hear you assess
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback situation after Drew Locke once again posts another
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  Speaker 4: win without getting sacked, without throwing an interception, which have
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  Speaker 4: been Two areas that Sam Darnold, at least.
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  Speaker 2: Statistically, has struggled with.
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  Speaker 3: So far this season, there's a loud outcry out there for.
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  Speaker 2: The change over to Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 3: And so after what you saw on Sunday from Drew,
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  Speaker 3: another injury to Drew Locke that he's going to have
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  Speaker 3: to deal with, Sam maybe could get back in time
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  Speaker 3: for Sunday against the Raiders. But with the bye week,
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  Speaker 3: you got a chance to maybe give him three straight
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  Speaker 3: weeks off. And then you've got Jalen Milrow in the
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  Speaker 3: equation as well. So how would you handle this thing
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  Speaker 3: going forward with these three quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first we have to assess the health, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Because they got some lumps and some bumps, and it's
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  Speaker 4: entirely possible that Drew Locke was able to gut it out,
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  Speaker 4: that oblique injury that he sustained early in the third quarter,
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  Speaker 4: first pass of the third quarter. But I watched him
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  Speaker 4: on a bootleg, or excuse me, a fake bootleg where
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  Speaker 4: he handed the ball off, and he's supposed to carry
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  Speaker 4: out his fake, and the defensive end to that side
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  Speaker 4: didn't honor any kind of fake, and he just crashed
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  Speaker 4: down and made the tackle. at the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 4: And so, so Locke was laboring just to, to carry
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  Speaker 4: out his fake on a handoff to try and hold that,
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  Speaker 4: that end man on the line of scrimmage. So I
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  Speaker 4: think it's, it wouldn't surprise me at all if his
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  Speaker 4: oblique is too strained to practice. Remember that now we're
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  Speaker 4: going back to a year ago in the playoff where
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  Speaker 4: Darnold wasn't practicing, right. And he just had to gut
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  Speaker 4: it out and, and play on Sunday. So, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: any one of three guys could start. So from a
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  Speaker 4: health standpoint, that's going to determine a lot. As for
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  Speaker 4: Drew Locke, I thought he played better once I watched
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  Speaker 4: the tape than I thought he did last night. And
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  Speaker 4: yet Seattle got– don't quote me on this, but I
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  Speaker 4: read it or heard it that they had the first win–
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  Speaker 4: without a 20-yard gain since 2000?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, yeah. Something like that.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't verified that, but in any event, there was
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  Speaker 4: a conspicuous lack of big plays, and yet I think
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  Speaker 4: that Locke had a few, particularly at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the second quarter, I think he was at his best,
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  Speaker 4: and he made a lot of plays that, with well
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  Speaker 4: under a minute, they were back on, I think, the
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  Speaker 4: 38-yard line. And to get seven points out of that,
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  Speaker 4: that was big time. But, you know, to me, Darnold's
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  Speaker 4: the number one quarterback. I probably, if you laid a
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  Speaker 4: Venn diagram down, I think I'm almost an identical circle
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  Speaker 4: with Mike McDonald. Ostensibly, everything that we've been able to
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  Speaker 4: learn about what Mike McDonald thinks about the quarterbacks, I
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  Speaker 4: think exactly the same. Now, I don't lay down like
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  Speaker 4: a perfect Venn diagram circle over circle on Zach Charbonnet.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm willing to tell you when I don't agree
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  Speaker 4: with Mike McDonald, I'm also willing to tell you that
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade Mike McDonald for one coach on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 4: So I love Mike McDonald, but I don't always agree
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  Speaker 4: with him, and I don't agree with him on Zach Charbonnet,
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  Speaker 4: but I do agree with him on the starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right, in our last minute here, this segment anyway,
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  Speaker 3: NFL trading deadline is tomorrow. If you've got a name,
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  Speaker 3: use it, but I just want to know, in general,
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  Speaker 3: if John Schneider pulls off another trade by– One o'clock
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow afternoon to improve this football team.
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  Speaker 2: What area do you want that to lie in? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think if there was a.
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  Speaker 4: Young defensive end, you know, the pass rushing specialist, I
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  Speaker 4: think the defense could use that. And then on the
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  Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball, I think the primary need
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  Speaker 4: is probably running back, but I don't think that they're
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  Speaker 4: going to address that. you already spent a number one.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're going to want to see what they have.
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  Speaker 4: I think that the number two receiver is something that
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  Speaker 4: we have more data on because JSN is obviously the
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  Speaker 4: ace that goes without saying, but who's the number two
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  Speaker 4: we've had, you know, now we're in year two with
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  Speaker 4: Rashid Shaheed that has not emerged.
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  Speaker 2: God bless Cooper cup.
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  Speaker 4: And he had those nice slants. So he had a
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  Speaker 4: relatively good day, but I see him going, down the
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  Speaker 4: field on a seam route, and the safety is going
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  Speaker 4: over the top of JSN, and there's just no confidence
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  Speaker 4: that he can win down the field, Cooper Cup. So
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a number three. I think Torrey Horton
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  Speaker 4: is showing signs of the injury and all the surgeries
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  Speaker 4: that he had last year. He's got two metal rods
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  Speaker 4: in his shin. I don't think he looks like a
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  Speaker 4: number two, although he had a nice play on that
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  Speaker 4: dagger route. So I'm not saying that those two guys
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  Speaker 4: that I just mentioned should never play. I just don't
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  Speaker 4: think they're twos. So I think that if there is
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  Speaker 4: a number two that is coming to an end on
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  Speaker 4: his contract on a team that's not going anywhere, if
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  Speaker 4: you ask me a name that fits that, Josh Downs
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  Speaker 4: for the Colts. I remember studying him last year because
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  Speaker 4: I was asked to do a breakdown of Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 4: for the 33rd team. So I really looked at the
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  Speaker 4: Colts in earnest a year ago. And I remember thinking
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  Speaker 4: Josh Downs is about one of the quickest, twitchiest sons
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  Speaker 4: of guns you could imagine. And they really, they were
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  Speaker 4: using him well. I mean, if you get creative, he's tiny,
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  Speaker 4: but he is really quick and he's, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: slot guy and, and he's on the last year of
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  Speaker 4: his contract. He's asked to be traded reportedly. Don't again,
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  Speaker 4: quote me on that, but I heard that, but that,
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  Speaker 4: and look, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm not, um,
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  Speaker 4: flying the flag for Josh towns at all.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, but that would just be a name.
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  Speaker 4: Um, but more than anything, I think that Seattle needs
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  Speaker 4: a number two and I don't even want to breathe
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  Speaker 4: it into the universe, um, about, you know, a certain
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  Speaker 4: guy who, uh, from Ohio state that happens to catch
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  Speaker 4: a lot of passes for the Seahawks, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that how dependent Seattle is on his health.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, if you can understand my job. Oh, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: got it. Get what you're going there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're picking up when I'm laying down? Yes, we are.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. All right, we got one more segment.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to, you know, if the football gods
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  Speaker 4: are slumbering, I didn't want to wake them.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do that. I would never want to. A threat, so.
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  Speaker 2: All right, one more segment with our Monday morning quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the Huskies' loss to Penn State on
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  Speaker 3: Saturday to close out our session.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 3: Hit it again.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, great Monday morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: It is Chuck Anders and Christopher with you. But we
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: are in the midst of a Monday morning quarterback session
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: with Hugh Millen. We've already discussed the Seahawks 17-3 victory
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: over the Arizona Cardinals yesterday to move to 5-4 on
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: the year. A little bit on the NFL trading deadline
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: as well. But we will close out today's session by
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: talking about the local college football team, the Huskies, losing
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: to Penn State.
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  Speaker 2: By three points on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: A furious rally to try to pull off that come-from-behind victory,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: but they come up a little bit short. Couldn't get
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Penn State off the field on that last drive of
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the game, and they end up running out the clock. So, Q,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was a little bit of two wins
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: on the road, a little bit of reversing the fortunes
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  Speaker 3: of this program here in 2026, and then to host
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  Speaker 3: a Penn State team, which isn't your normal Penn State team.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: They've had their struggles this year coming in with a
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: 4-4 record. Looked like they could get maybe on a
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: little bit of a groove here midway through the season,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: and yet to fall to Penn State, what do you
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: think that did to the state of the team, state
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: of the program at this stage?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think for.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Me, they have had the third easiest schedule in the
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Big Ten, and yet According to the Big Ten rankings,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: they're ranked 14 out of 18 teams. And now the
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: schedule is going to get harder in the last two weeks, obviously.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: To me, the season's over.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It's over.
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  Speaker 4: You got four losses. You're not going to the playoff.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to get excited about the guaranteed rate bowl,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the game above sports bowl. That's in Detroit. Do fans
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: really want to go to Detroit in the middle of
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: the winter? The Serve Pro First Responder Bowl. Oh, if
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: you get an upset in the last two, you go
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: to the Penn State Bowl. Yeah, so I would just say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's just an exercise in getting the clock to double zero.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: It's over. in my opinion. Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Um, well, if that is the case, um, was it
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a mistake to start DeMond Williams, uh, Saturday against the lions?
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Well, I think whether you say it's the, uh, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: can't really call it the DeMond Williams experiment, um, because
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: he's played in just about every game, but one, I
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: think in the last three years and, and started 22 games,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: but here we are, um, If you take net yards
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: per attempt, he's at 5.11. He's 17 out of 18
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Big Ten and 66 out of 67 in Power Five.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: His sack rate is 18th out of 18 in the
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Big Ten, 67 out of 67, dead last in Power Four.
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  Speaker 4: Third down conversions on passes, 15.2%. Dead last in the
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  Speaker 4: Big Ten, dead last 67 out of 67 in power
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  Speaker 4: four quarterbacks. EPA per third down, dead last in the
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Big Ten, dead last in a power four. Conversion rate,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: that includes his runs.
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  Speaker 2: He's still.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Dead last in the Big Ten and dead last of
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: all power four quarterbacks. Here's what's sad about it. In
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the Sun Bowl as a freshman, He was 5-for-5 on
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: completions and attempts, 5-for-5 on balls in the air 20
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: yards or more. This year in the entire Big Ten,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: he has five completions. So he had as many big
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: completions defined as 20 or more air yards in one
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: game as a freshman than he does an entire Big
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Ten season as a junior in And we were told
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: we're trying to get this guy to New York. He
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: was in that bowl game, Sun Bowl, as a freshman.
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  Speaker 4: He was 4 of 6 in air yards, 10 to
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  Speaker 4: 19 yards. This year, against Big Ten opponents, he's 10
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  Speaker 4: of 23. So, Jesse, in every way, it's been a disappointment. And,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: you know, Jed Fish really values the athleticism, but the
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: production just hasn't come with it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: If the season's over and DeMond Williams has failed to
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: live up to expectations, got three games to go, what
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: would you say about what to do the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the way? What is the plan for the Huskies the
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: rest of the season if, in fact, the season's come
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  Speaker 3: to a close?
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  Speaker 4: My plan wouldn't be Jed Fish's plan. I would want
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: to see Eliza Brown and see what, if anything, you
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: have there. It's probably unlikely, but I I think that
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  Speaker 4: the DeMond.
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  Speaker 2: I would be surprised if he's a Husky next year.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I don't make those decisions, but if I had to bet,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I think probably a good place for him is the Pac-12,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: UNLV or something like that, San Diego State, whatever. There's
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: probably enough teams to pay him a couple million, but
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I would not. be putting my future into giving him
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: six million which will be close to the going rate
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: or whatever it'll be north of five million and then
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: hoping that all of a sudden in year three plus
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: that he gets it um so that that'd be the
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: direction i'd be going.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Well what does this sort of step step back season
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: on what was supposed to be a step forward season
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: due to the entire program and its health.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Well, it seems a little bleak right now, but things
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: can turn around. Look at UCLA.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sure things felt really bleak for them, but Bob
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Chesney has come in and they're number one in the
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Big Ten, so it can turn around.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Look at Cignetti. But right now, yeah, it's discouraging. You're
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in year three.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I thought it was bad form for Coach Fish to
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: prior to the year when told that, hey, it's year three,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Jim Owens, Don James, and Chris Peterson all won the
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: conference in year three. And his response was, well, if
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: it was the Big Ten, I'd be impressed. That's taken
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: a big giant squat on everybody that certainly played on
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: those teams and on those coaches. And they built, you're
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: standing on their shoulders. The reason why you thought Washington
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: was a superior school to Arizona is is because of
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: what those guys did. And so wasn't a fan of that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: So year three, there's a regression for the team, a
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: regression for the quarterback. That's the quarterback that you sold
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: us all on that is the answer. And, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: so right now, even the best blue sky scenario for
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the rest of the season still leads you into those,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: you know, rather unesteemable bowls that I've, enumerated at the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: beginning of the segment. So, so I, I think it's, it's,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: it's a, uh, a very disappointing situation where we're at.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. All right, man.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Um, well, I'll go let you watch some old pool
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: and weed eater bowl film and that tremendous tradition.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Oh man. Well, you win that trophy.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: That, that, you know, they, they, they put that thing
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: in brass, brass cleat, you know, That's right. Nothing like
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: that weed eater just propped up there in the middle
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: of the glass encasement.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Real conversation starter.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: All right, man. Well, great job. Thank you very much.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. We'll talk to you later this week.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Hammer down, boys. All right.
• 26:15
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• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the radio program. And before we get to one last
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: thing here on this Monday and then hand things off
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: to Greg Bell at 10 o'clock, I do want to
• 26:57
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• 26:59
  Speaker 2: More of everything now.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: More of your casino room floor to entertain you. More
• 27:08
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• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And then the hotel. Don't forget about that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Don't sleep on the hotel. No sleep in the hotel.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: like Anders and I did a couple of weeks ago.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Not together. Gosh. But, yes, we stayed the night there
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Anders brought his lovely young family, and they got to
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: check out the Tulalip Resort Casino.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: It's not a terrible idea. Like, right now, go do.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: A staycation at Tulalip Resort Casino and then do some
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: football action on the weekend at the DraftKings Sportsbook.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just lovely. Austin did some gambling. Yes,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: he did. Now, fake mustache and all. Exactly. On the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: eight month old. Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: I didn't ask for his ID, which was a little weird.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: They asked for mine. So I don't know why that
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: how that came to be.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: But well, well, fake mustaches. Yeah, they work all the time.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: All right, what's your one last thing here today?
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I hate to be the guy to piss in Cheerios
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: of a Kraken situation when you're trying to get some positivity.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: It's been a decent start to the young season. Now
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: you're going and having a trip. But Bobby McMahon. Oh, boy,
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: you're going to go after Bobby McMahon to close out
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: the show. Not that, you know, I expect this slump
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: in the early part of the season to continue all
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: year long, but I just noticed a lot of similarities
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: with his situation and what we got from Josh Naylor
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: last year for the Mariners. You make a decent trade
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: deadline acquisition. He comes in and provides a much needed
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: spark for your team for something you didn't have before.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: For Bobby McMahon, it was a guy who could shoot
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: the puck and, you know, Score, period.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: End of story. Be a finisher.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: That just hasn't been the case this year. Kraken end
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: up making the deadline acquisition and then paying him in
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: the offseason to keep him around. And a guy that
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: you got more out of in the couple months after
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: the trade deadline last year ended up coming here. And
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: you think maybe, oh, this is his big breakout. You're
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: going to get more out of him than in years past.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: And it just hasn't come to be the case for
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Bobby McMahon. Now, like I said, I don't expect five
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: points in 16 games to go out through a whole season.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: That would be an equivalent of like 26 points over
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: an 84 game season, which is very much not what
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: you're paying for. But I just noticed a lot of
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: similarities between that. I hope he can turn it around.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: And it even puts in perspective the Kraken's, like I said,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: relatively decent start to the beginning of the season. When
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: you have players like him and Matty Beneers struggling for
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: points production, that just shows how well players like Brandon
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: Montour and Berkley Catton have been playing in the early
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: part of the season. So if you can get just
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: a little bit more from those guys, then I will
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: feel even better about where the Kraken are heading this year.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: But I just wanted to point that out because there
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: are some things that are worrying in terms of that process.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: And we just saw it play out in that way
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: for the Mariners and Josh Naylor.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: All right. All right. McMahon and Naylor. Yeah. Interesting. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: don't see McMahon showing up in a Mariners jersey at
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Mariners games, though. At least Naylor's more supportive of other
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: teams in town. This is true.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: He does love himself some crack. He loves it. Oh, yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: All right, kid. What do you got for one last
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: thing today? A little bit of news.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Diana Rossini is back, and she's going to launch her
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: new BET USA TV beginning Wednesday.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: So my question is, Since our Twitter's also back, what
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: could you possibly tweet? Like, do you just put out
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: your segment? Because everyone's going to say something.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: They're going to have GIFs. Or do you limit your comments?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Everyone's going to say it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Like, my mom will probably sign up for Twitter just
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: to say something.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, what can you possibly do with Twitter
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: now that you're back on it?
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Ugh.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, she needs to just block everyone. That would
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: be my best guess, is like, you cannot leave a
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: comment on this. I mean, some people truly aren't affected
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: by criticism. It's a rare breed.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Joy is one of them. I kind of let it
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: roll off my back, but, I mean, you know, we
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: are human. Eventually, yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: When you start hearing that, and if you get, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: think Pat McAfee was one. I think he was immune
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to criticism until he got like two years worth of it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden he's starting to crack
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe she'll have a personality that can take the slings
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: and arrows, but.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: She's going to get a lot of it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: The only one I've seen actually take it and never
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: respond is Joy Taylor. They have the hot dog meme
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: of someone throwing hot dogs in your face.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: She was bothered.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: But she never responded on social media. She might have
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: been bothered. No, I saw her because she would go
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: after people. Being aggressively defensive, it's getting to you. Somebody
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: would come after her and she'd go after somebody else.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Maybe that was just on Instagram because every time she
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: posted a picture, it was like... memes, GIFs, or excuse me,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: same thing, but I was just like, wow.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You always really got a thick skin. Kevin Durant.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: He got mad at a reporter for asking the simple question.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: KD only had 16 points. We won the game, man.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? It's like, well, I'm just pointing
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: out KD. He gets mad at everybody.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: You know my question for the Diana Rossini show? Who's
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: going to be the first NFL coach to go on
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: that show?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: The answer better be no one.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's like, I'll give you up.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: We'll give it a shot. Grant Benzinger, screw you. Seriously.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, what kind of person's going to trust her
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: ever again?
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Dabble into that. Even if you don't think anything's going
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: to happen, just... You don't want to be linked to it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. I mean, the moment that she has Sean
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Payton on... Well, they're sleeping together. Yeah, exactly. That's instantly
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: what everyone is going to say. I'm going to close
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: my one last thing with this.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I was right about this with the managerial hire, that
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: there's no way the Mariners won't hire somebody.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Before the lockout. Yes, you were.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: There were some reports over the weekend. I think it
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: was Marossi and Rosenthal and others. They do believe that
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: some teams are going to make a move Like, free agents?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think free agents are going to sign until
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: people know the rules for the new collective bargaining agreement.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I think that it's going to curb some... Not just curb.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I think most of the activity is going to take
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: place afterwards. But like contracts, I think that there are
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of teams, and I think the Mariners are
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: one of them, that sort of want an off-season foundation
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: setting sort of move.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: And I think that there are.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Going to be a few big trades made before December 2nd,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: and I think the Mariners are going to be one
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Something to talk about for the long break. Something to
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: chew on for the next nine and a half months.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: As we endure the longest lockout of all time. Right, exactly.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Because it might be. It might be.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: But I do think that there was some reporting done
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: over the weekend that's saying that some teams want to
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: beat that deadline today. And I think that they will.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: And I think the Mariners are going to be one
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: of them. I suspect, I've suspected for years now, that
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: there's going to be a significant trade this particular offseason
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: with one of their starting pitchers, namely George Kirby. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: think that that's going to happen. Marossi was going as
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: far as saying that could happen this week. We could
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: see a couple of significant trades this week where you're
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: trading like.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Like Yeah, not one for one all the time, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: like maybe.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for nothing else, Jerry doesn't like to sit on
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: his hands, so he's going to have to get something
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: done before you literally have to sit on your hands.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: So Trader Jerry.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: At it again. All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: at 6 a.m. We'll do a lot on the NFL
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: trade deadline tomorrow. Greg Bell's coming your way next. Sports
• 35:26
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