Latest / Foul Territory / Chris Sale & Sean Manaea on FT in NYC
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- 0:00Speaker 1: As much as I love it, I know the fans
- 0:02Speaker 1: love it. You know.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I think there's a time and place and you know,
- 0:05Speaker 2: maybe we uh, you know, have another chan or you know,
- 0:07Speaker 2: another song or something like that.
- 0:08Speaker 1: That'd be that'd be really cool.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Chris Sales getting miked up right now, So bear with
- 0:15Speaker 3: us for just a moment, and I'm gonna have to
- 0:17Speaker 3: fix this so it doesn't look like I'm a cyborg.
- 0:19Speaker 3: There we go, but we're gonna talk to Chris in
- 0:22Speaker 3: a moment, and we'll have some other guests flowing through
- 0:24Speaker 3: here too. But ask him, gave a great speech.
- 0:29Speaker 1: You did give a great speech. I didn't know you
- 0:31Speaker 1: were so inspirational.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Here we go bead emotion and tricking if you got
- 0:35Speaker 4: it right emotion.
- 0:39Speaker 3: How was that for you? I think you know the
- 0:41Speaker 3: part that hit home for me was and you're gonna
- 0:43Speaker 3: say it better than I do, because I don't remember
- 0:45Speaker 3: it word for word. But when you do feel like
- 0:47Speaker 3: you're down, don't show them that you are down.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just think that along the way, right
- 0:56Speaker 4: along this journey, there's there's a lot of ups and downs,
- 0:58Speaker 4: and the people that are there the entire time, you know,
- 1:03Speaker 4: everyone's there for the parties, right, and everyone likes the
- 1:05Speaker 4: good times. Everyone's there for the celebrations, but you know,
- 1:09Speaker 4: when you're down and out, a lot of those people
- 1:12Speaker 4: aren't there. And you know, for for me, this was
- 1:16Speaker 4: this was almost like a recognition of everybody that got
- 1:20Speaker 4: me here because I'm nothing without them. I really am not.
- 1:23Speaker 4: I'm not sitting here.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I don't.
- 1:24Speaker 4: I don't achieve what. I'm not who I am, I'm
- 1:26Speaker 4: not where I'm at.
- 1:27Speaker 1: I don't.
- 1:28Speaker 4: I just know, I truly believe none of this happens
- 1:31Speaker 4: without the people that I have and just my family,
- 1:33Speaker 4: my friends, my teammates, doctors, trainers, I mean, coach, I mean,
- 1:37Speaker 4: the list goes on and on. So this was this
- 1:41Speaker 4: was I appreciate this a lot because I feel like
- 1:43Speaker 4: this was just just a really big group effort to
- 1:45Speaker 4: get me, get me here.
- 1:46Speaker 5: Chris, your story so inspiring, what you overcame, what you
- 1:49Speaker 5: accomplished this year. And I wonder what was the low point,
- 1:53Speaker 5: what was the moment when you thought, I just don't
- 1:56Speaker 5: know if this is coming back.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Oh man, that's that's that's a tough one because there
- 2:02Speaker 4: was a lot just surgeries and rehabs, and it was tough. Yeah,
- 2:10Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know if if there was, like
- 2:12Speaker 4: a particular instance. Twenty twenty was tough, just because you know,
- 2:17Speaker 4: you're going through surgery for the first time and and
- 2:20Speaker 4: dealing with that, and then twenty one missing more time,
- 2:22Speaker 4: twenty two feeling like I was ready to go getting
- 2:25Speaker 4: you know, the finger clipped off, and then uh, twenty three,
- 2:29Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, we're back, We're starting the season. We
- 2:31Speaker 4: had a good off season, you know, blah blah blah,
- 2:33Speaker 4: and then the shoulder thing happened. So uh, there there
- 2:36Speaker 4: was just a lot. Again, I think that all of
- 2:38Speaker 4: those things make me appreciate this moment more and just
- 2:41Speaker 4: again appreciate the people.
- 2:42Speaker 1: That got me here. Did you always feel it was there?
- 2:45Speaker 4: No? No, I mean there was definitely times of doubt.
- 2:47Speaker 4: There were times where I thought I was done, you know,
- 2:51Speaker 4: and and shoot, I I before, like I said, I've
- 2:54Speaker 4: said it before. Before I got traded, I was planning
- 2:56Speaker 4: on being done. This was gonna be the last year.
- 2:58Speaker 4: It is gonna get everything I got. I bought a
- 3:01Speaker 4: new truck, We're gonna get an RV and we're gonna
- 3:03Speaker 4: we're gonna go travel. So I still got the truck.
- 3:06Speaker 4: We don't have the RV. But uh, those plans got
- 3:09Speaker 4: pushed back a little bit, thankfully.
- 3:10Speaker 1: They can wait.
- 3:11Speaker 2: What happens if you've got this award two three years
- 3:15Speaker 2: into your career?
- 3:16Speaker 1: How different would that speech have been? Because you mature,
- 3:19Speaker 1: everybody matures. You go through you said it, You go
- 3:21Speaker 1: through the tough times to be able appreciate this.
- 3:24Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, And I think, yeah, I think what
- 3:27Speaker 4: you said. It's just you appreciate it more. When when
- 3:30Speaker 4: I was younger, it was it was it was a
- 3:32Speaker 4: little bit different. Things just came a little bit more natural.
- 3:36Speaker 4: You don't you know how it is when you're young.
- 3:38Speaker 4: You don't have to put as much in to get
- 3:39Speaker 4: as much out right.
- 3:41Speaker 1: And so yeah, I.
- 3:43Speaker 4: Think I think being being here and going through what
- 3:45Speaker 4: I went through and learning things that I've learned and
- 3:48Speaker 4: doing things the right way made this moment more special.
- 3:51Speaker 1: All Right. I gotta ask you, I know you wanted
- 3:52Speaker 1: to say. And we got a guy standing behind us here.
- 3:54Speaker 1: He hit a few homers, a.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Couple, I would you, Oh, man, Well, it depends on
- 3:59Speaker 4: when he had caught me.
- 4:02Speaker 1: I will say this.
- 4:03Speaker 4: I've actually talked about him a lot. I was like, man,
- 4:05Speaker 4: I missed you by what what was your last year?
- 4:08Speaker 1: Seven?
- 4:08Speaker 4: I missed you by three years and out of love
- 4:12Speaker 4: to stare down that barriwer. Hey, listen, I've given up.
- 4:16Speaker 4: Homer is the worst, so it would have been all right.
- 4:20Speaker 3: We've got Good Guy Award winner Sean and Iah with
- 4:23Speaker 3: us of the New York Match, which probably feels good
- 4:25Speaker 3: to say.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:27Speaker 3: A couple of months ago you hit the market, and
- 4:28Speaker 3: now you're officially back. I think you're at FanFest, right, yeah.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Yeah, because he came over and gave you I was like, yeah, no,
- 4:42Speaker 2: go way back, you know, Okay, cool?
- 4:45Speaker 1: All right.
- 4:45Speaker 3: The question I've been excited to ask you about is
- 4:48Speaker 3: so Chris sales here right, Yeah, I don't know if
- 4:50Speaker 3: you saw him, yeah, but if you do, are you
- 4:52Speaker 3: going to go up to him and be like, hey,
- 4:54Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard this story. I was
- 4:56Speaker 3: watching you. I'll let you tell it. But it's really cool.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have some money that I need
- 5:01Speaker 2: to give him to, uh, you know, compensate him for
- 5:03Speaker 2: all the work he's something with. But no, yeah, I'm
- 5:06Speaker 2: definitely excited to to meet him because I haven't actually
- 5:08Speaker 2: I've just seen him from Afar. But you know, I
- 5:10Speaker 2: don't want to step in any toes alert something like that.
- 5:12Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm definitely very excited too.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Yeah please, Okay, is it crazy to think that, like,
- 5:19Speaker 3: because just tell me you're watching him right during the
- 5:21Speaker 3: season and you're like, hey, I feel like I should
- 5:23Speaker 3: take a couple of pages out of that book.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:26Speaker 2: I mean to me, it just kind of like a
- 5:28Speaker 2: white bulb went off where I was like, I don't know,
- 5:31Speaker 2: like it felt something felt like good and comfortable, and
- 5:34Speaker 2: that's something I've been searching for for a long time,
- 5:36Speaker 2: and like I've been watching him do it for such
- 5:38Speaker 2: a long time, and I was just like, you know,
- 5:40Speaker 2: let's just just try something like that. And yeah, I
- 5:43Speaker 2: mean it was it was the one thing led to
- 5:45Speaker 2: another and here we areselves.
- 5:46Speaker 1: And you said it was comfortable.
- 5:47Speaker 5: But how difficult is it to make that kind of
- 5:49Speaker 5: adjustment in the middle of a seasonw did it come about?
- 5:53Speaker 2: I mean to me, it didn't feel like a huge
- 5:57Speaker 2: drastic difference. It Like to me, it actually felt like, uh,
- 6:00Speaker 2: everything was easier, Like I felt like before it was
- 6:03Speaker 2: like i'd be a you know, like the the Yankee game,
- 6:05Speaker 2: the game before I was throwing I'd just be like
- 6:08Speaker 2: every pitch just felt like I feel like I can
- 6:10Speaker 2: get more out of it, you know, just nothing felt right.
- 6:13Speaker 2: And then you know, since I made that switch, it's
- 6:15Speaker 2: like I could care less about like the feels and stuff.
- 6:19Speaker 2: It's just like I have like one thought and then
- 6:21Speaker 2: just try and throw a ball as far as I can,
- 6:22Speaker 2: and uh, you know, just very simplified everything, which kind
- 6:26Speaker 2: of unlock something.
- 6:27Speaker 1: You know, you realize that's not real, Like do you realize,
- 6:30Speaker 1: like it's not easy? Everybody does that. Like I watched
- 6:34Speaker 1: somebody hitt and I'm like.
- 6:38Speaker 6: A couple of good swings at VP over the game,
- 6:41Speaker 6: same result that easy.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, he's not the only
- 6:46Speaker 2: person I've ever tried to emulate or try and so
- 6:49Speaker 2: I've definitely gone through iterations of uh, you know, Sure's
- 6:52Speaker 2: or lens to come like all you know, all these
- 6:54Speaker 2: like greats where I'm like, oh, these guys are good,
- 6:56Speaker 2: I might as well try it out, and you know,
- 6:58Speaker 2: nothing nothing sucking.
- 7:01Speaker 7: Linsem Sale is like as far away as you can get.
- 7:05Speaker 7: I mean, well he was like straight over the top
- 7:07Speaker 7: downhill Sales, like stepping over behind you, throwing it over here.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was more when I was growing up, and.
- 7:13Speaker 2: I was like, you know, since Pro Bowl have kind
- 7:15Speaker 2: of try to be my own person. But you know,
- 7:18Speaker 2: there's uh, there's greats for the reason. You know, I
- 7:20Speaker 2: told this story real quick one time on the show.
- 7:22Speaker 2: But in fifteen, you were in spring training with the Royals. Yep,
- 7:26Speaker 2: I was there, and I remember watching it. You know how
- 7:28Speaker 2: you were kind of like a you know, with the
- 7:30Speaker 2: younger guys.
- 7:31Speaker 6: So all the good pitchers pitched first, and then you
- 7:33Speaker 6: went out and pitched, and then the next day that
- 7:36Speaker 6: you threw a pen.
- 7:37Speaker 1: You were with like some of the big dogs.
- 7:40Speaker 6: And I remember telling our Cody Clark our bullpen catch
- 7:43Speaker 6: at the time, I said, do you see how much
- 7:45Speaker 6: farther that guy is because you all threw it at
- 7:48Speaker 6: the same time on the A pack and your arm
- 7:51Speaker 6: your hand was that much farther out in front of
- 7:53Speaker 6: everybody else's.
- 7:54Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, that guy was a pretty high pick.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be good. I'm like, yeah, I
- 7:58Speaker 1: can tell.
- 8:00Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, I uh, you know, go back to
- 8:02Speaker 2: those uh those days. You know, it's it's really cool
- 8:06Speaker 2: seeing how far of h a comes since since those times,
- 8:08Speaker 2: you know, so and you barely got you know, terrible
- 8:10Speaker 2: paycheck this offseason. Right now, we you know, very excited
- 8:15Speaker 2: about that. Uh, and you get to go back to
- 8:16Speaker 2: New York. Yeah, success, Yeah, very excited about that. Love
- 8:20Speaker 2: the love the city, love the organization. So I'm just
- 8:23Speaker 2: super happy to be back here.
- 8:24Speaker 1: When you run into free agency, Sean, how did you
- 8:27Speaker 1: approach it?
- 8:27Speaker 5: Was that the priority to get back to New York Mets?
- 8:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Like talks and everything like that, they just kind of
- 8:37Speaker 2: everything wind up with, uh, coming back to New York. Obviously,
- 8:41Speaker 2: you know last year was great, and you know, I think, uh,
- 8:45Speaker 2: just everything that was on the table, it was just
- 8:47Speaker 2: kind of like a no brainer for us. So you know,
- 8:50Speaker 2: once we hammered out all the like little details, it
- 8:52Speaker 2: just kind of, you know, made a lot of sense.
- 8:53Speaker 2: So yeah, at the end of the day, it was
- 8:55Speaker 2: a it was a pretty easy decision. I would say,
- 8:58Speaker 2: what are.
- 8:58Speaker 1: You most excited about to go back?
- 9:00Speaker 2: Like actually getting to go back, I mean working with
- 9:06Speaker 2: hef and the rest of the pitching staff and the
- 9:08Speaker 2: you know, analytics department. I feel like we got like
- 9:10Speaker 2: a very good system going on. Towards the end of
- 9:15Speaker 2: the season, it was like, you know, I pitch, I'd
- 9:17Speaker 2: go in, I'd ask everyone how like my stuff looked,
- 9:19Speaker 2: and then you know, from that it would just be
- 9:21Speaker 2: kind of like, is there anything like I needed to
- 9:23Speaker 2: work on like objectively going into this next start? And
- 9:26Speaker 2: then you know, kind of hammered that out in the
- 9:30Speaker 2: like bullpen that week or something like that, and then
- 9:32Speaker 2: uh just kind of build off that. You know, so
- 9:34Speaker 2: just like the system that we had, I feel like
- 9:35Speaker 2: we can you know, just keep improving upon that. And
- 9:37Speaker 2: then it's just nice to be back with a group
- 9:40Speaker 2: of people that you've you've known and rount accustomed to.
- 9:43Speaker 7: We got to ask we'll OMG be back next year.
- 9:45Speaker 7: You guys carry it over the next year.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I I as much as I love it,
- 9:50Speaker 2: I know the fans love it. You know, I think
- 9:52Speaker 2: there's a time and place in twenty twenty four is
- 9:55Speaker 2: I hope we have some kind of like.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Remembrance of it.
- 9:58Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe you know, maybe Grimmace comes out and
- 10:00Speaker 2: dances to it or something like that.
- 10:02Speaker 1: But uh, you.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Know, maybe we uh you know, have another chance or
- 10:05Speaker 2: you know, another song or something like that.
- 10:06Speaker 1: That'd be that'd be really cool for the I.
- 10:07Speaker 6: Black with the pictures all like you guys had a
- 10:10Speaker 6: lot of gimmicks. You guys a lot of a lot
- 10:13Speaker 6: of skits.
- 10:14Speaker 2: As you guys are well aware, the baseball community is
- 10:16Speaker 2: very superstitious, and uh, in those times when they're needed,
- 10:20Speaker 2: you know, it makes a lot of sense. So yeah,
- 10:22Speaker 2: I mean we had Stebby like wearing fifty nine like
- 10:25Speaker 2: through the airport one time, and I was like, that's dedication.
- 10:27Speaker 1: You know. It was like, it's super funny.
- 10:29Speaker 3: So one more quick one because you've got the asses.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I'm sure a million times today, Pete come back, you.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Know, I I genuinely hope so, but.
- 10:39Speaker 7: Asked Scott Scott was just ask Scott.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, I met, I work out with him.
- 10:46Speaker 1: I see him every day.
- 10:47Speaker 6: So yeah, text about because it's a big thing in
- 10:50Speaker 6: New York, like texting yeah number.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've talked to Pete about it.
- 10:56Speaker 3: You're you're with them every day in Tampa, right, Yeah, Okay, Yeah,
- 10:59Speaker 3: we work out.
- 11:00Speaker 2: I just wanted whatever's best for feet and so at
- 11:02Speaker 2: the end of I have not yet, but yeah, hopefully
- 11:07Speaker 2: will he signed your thousands baseball, your thousands strikeout? Since
- 11:11Speaker 2: you punched his ticket on you know, I hope So
- 11:15Speaker 2: I don't know what that conversation is, Like, you know,
- 11:17Speaker 2: is that is that an awkward conversation.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Was if you came up to me, punched me out,
- 11:22Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, learned about five hundred of the
- 11:25Speaker 1: career home run or something like that. You know, like,
- 11:27Speaker 1: who are you looking at?
- 11:29Speaker 6: I had Brandon Belt signed my first big league strikeout.
- 11:32Speaker 6: I struck him out and signed it for me.
- 11:34Speaker 1: So you need to get one to sweet.
- 11:36Speaker 3: And you tell him I'm the Good Guy Award winner.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So that great to have you. Thank you so much.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Guys know what you guys do so