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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 227 | Schedule Release Review, Upcoming OTA's · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to Jags a m mid May.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: Things are starting to heat up before they cool back
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: down again at the end of June, and we've got a.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Lot to cover.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: We've got Mark Dufner here, so you know it's a
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: big show when the coaches around.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: John Osier is here.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Let's get started right out of the gate, as we
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: always do with big things. Last Thursday night, the schedule
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: dropped and you knew it about seven thirty when the
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: schedule release videos all hit the internet. Now we know
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: is big thing one. First of all, now we know
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: who the Jaguars play and when they play him, and
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: you know, in a skeptical world, it's really skeptical in
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: the age of the Internet and social media. I was
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: really surprised by how many people actually thought that Trevor
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Lawrence got his haircut for a schedule release video.
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  Speaker 1: Duff, what'd you think of the video? And then how
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: do you approach the.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: Schedule when you get it the first time as a coach?
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  Speaker 2: What are you're looking for, how it's broken up, where
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  Speaker 2: you're going in August, where you're going in November.
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  Speaker 1: How do you look at a schedule?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I did think the video is unbelievable,
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  Speaker 3: so I have to agree it clearly attracted me and
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  Speaker 3: got my attention big time as far as that's concerned.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I was thinking about going to the same
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  Speaker 3: barber and trying to get mine done if they would
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  Speaker 3: take me. But I was very impressed with that. And then,
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: you know, as far as the schedule is concerned, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I break it into quarters, you know, and kind of
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: look at well, you know, we have to come out
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  Speaker 3: winning these quarters for us to get to where we
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: want to go. And especially as a coach, when you
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: scheduled does come out, you're looking at the chronological order
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: in terms of now I've got to really dive into
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: the deep details of this opponent, the strengths that they've got,
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: the weaknesses they've got, so that we've got to expose
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: our players to in the practice routine and also in
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: the classroom. So the order is very, very important to
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: coaches because again, the schedule that you've got and what
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  Speaker 3: you want to get taught in training camp to them
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  Speaker 3: and in pre season to get them ready to play
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I sort of knew it wasn't real, but a lot
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  Speaker 5: of my readers I got this cycle hey, is it real?
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  Speaker 4: And then as soon as they found out it wasn't,
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  Speaker 4: I knew what.
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  Speaker 5: So I think it fooled a lot more people than
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  Speaker 5: maybe people are willing to admit.
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  Speaker 4: But we'll never know about that.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess when I look at the schedule, I
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  Speaker 5: try to look in the same way as Duff. I
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  Speaker 5: also look at it from the point of view that
• 2:42
  Speaker 5: you sort of know from experience that the teams.
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: You can think that the first part of a schedule looks.
• 2:51
  Speaker 5: Quote easy or winnable, or you can navigate it. But
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  Speaker 5: if you had looked at this schedule this time last year,
• 2:59
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't have thought the Patriots in Week.
• 3:01
  Speaker 4: Two were a big game. Correct.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody last year thought that Jaguars Broncos would be a
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  Speaker 5: huge game, and the Broncos might be there, but nobody
• 3:12
  Speaker 5: thought the Jaguars, you know that late December game is
• 3:15
  Speaker 5: gonna be big. So I don't think you really know
• 3:19
  Speaker 5: how hard a schedule is until about week five or six,
• 3:22
  Speaker 5: when it's actually going on and you know the teams.
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  Speaker 5: So I kind of look at it as Okay, you're
• 3:27
  Speaker 5: going to cold weather in Chicago late, You've got a
• 3:31
  Speaker 5: couple of hot games early and maybe take advantage of
• 3:33
  Speaker 5: the heat. I try to look at it sort of
• 3:35
  Speaker 5: stepped back from it because everything changes so fast with
• 3:38
  Speaker 5: injuries and roster turnover that.
• 3:41
  Speaker 4: Except for a few teams, it's hard to know how
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: good they're gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll obviously spend a little more time on that
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: later in the show. We move along to big Thing
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  Speaker 2: number two and is tinkering The Jaguars add a veteran
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: running back to that room, a Mirrorbduel who's been with
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  Speaker 2: the Lions and the Colts, a couple of other teams
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  Speaker 2: since coming into the league.
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  Speaker 1: A few years back.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a John in particular. Travis Eta Junior is gone,
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: and so they bring in Chris Rodriguez, and they've added
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  Speaker 2: some guys through free agency, undrafted rookie free Agentsy in.
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  Speaker 1: Particular, and now they bring in a mirror of Duela.
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  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on tinkering with the running back room and guys,
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  Speaker 2: both of you, is there another room or two that
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: you might be looking to add a veteran like of
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  Speaker 2: Doulah who could come in and give you a specific
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  Speaker 2: subset or roll on this team as you head into
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  Speaker 2: OTA's and beyond that, mini Caount.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a subtle difference in the last
• 4:33
  Speaker 5: four or five years to this sort of a move,
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  Speaker 5: and maybe before I'm not sure if they had made
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  Speaker 5: it five years ago, before practice squad could be brought up,
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  Speaker 5: before veterans could stay there.
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  Speaker 4: I sort of wonder about the move.
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  Speaker 5: Now you can bring in a ten or eleven year
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  Speaker 5: veteran with the idea of Okay, maybe they make the
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  Speaker 5: top three or four, but if not, you can have
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  Speaker 5: them on the roster the whole season, activate them or
• 5:00
  Speaker 5: the roster around the practice squad, activate them two or
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  Speaker 5: three times, have them there and ready to move up
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  Speaker 5: if there's an injury.
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  Speaker 4: He also brings you some returnability, so that feels like
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  Speaker 4: this kind of move.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying he won't make the fifty three, but
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  Speaker 5: you can bring in older veterans now, and if they
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  Speaker 5: don't make the fifty three, you can still have them
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  Speaker 5: be an active part of your organization for the entire year.
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  Speaker 5: Other places, look, a defensive tackle still makes sense, but
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  Speaker 5: I think rush and maybe once they hit training camp
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  Speaker 5: you could still see them. Okay, now we've seen it
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  Speaker 5: on the field, Maybe rush and a.
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  Speaker 4: Third fourth guy there. You never know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think duff right now, they are thinking, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we're desperate to address another position.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you, and I agree with your assessment
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  Speaker 3: of the running back edition. I mean again, I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a brilliant move right now, and it's also kind
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  Speaker 3: of again indicative of the push to make the running
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  Speaker 3: game even better and better, having more fresh legs, fresh
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  Speaker 3: application in terms of personnel as far as that's concerned.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's really good, and I'm with you
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  Speaker 3: in terms of your assessment of what areas need some
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  Speaker 3: possible attention. You've got to affect the quarterback, and however
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  Speaker 3: we can do that, whether it be internal rush with
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  Speaker 3: the into your defensive lineman, which I kind of leaned
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  Speaker 3: that position maybe the most, but also as an edge guy.
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  Speaker 3: People that can that are fresh and that can disrupt
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  Speaker 3: the opponent's schemes and their playability, I think is what
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  Speaker 3: we're looking for. So I think I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: I think your dead on and what your assessment is
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  Speaker 3: in both areas.
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  Speaker 2: All right, the Jaguars hit the field next week for
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: OTA's that's what's next.
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  Speaker 1: As an I've lost track honestly of phases right I
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  Speaker 1: there's phase one, Phase two phases.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do know that next Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: they'll be out there.
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  Speaker 1: The media will be invited to join.
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  Speaker 2: So it must be that phase of the game where
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  Speaker 2: they can get something done in these OTA's on the
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  Speaker 2: field activities.
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  Speaker 1: Mark, you've been through this process.
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  Speaker 2: Give us a sense of what this next couple of
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: weeks before mini camp is all about. Honestly, I think
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  Speaker 2: OTAs in mini camp field just about the same these days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the OTAs gives the coaching staff
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  Speaker 3: a chance right now and the team to kind of
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  Speaker 3: mesh you know, in the classroom. On the field, there'll
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  Speaker 3: be more teamwork, more unit work than there's been up
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  Speaker 3: to this point. Up to this point, there's been a
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  Speaker 3: lot of individual position work and development as far as
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  Speaker 3: that's concerned. So the coaches I think are really, I think,
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  Speaker 3: working very very hard to establish the fundamentals, the foundation
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  Speaker 3: of drills, of scheme of situations with the ball club
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  Speaker 3: right now so that when they get into training camp
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  Speaker 3: they can start from not the very beginning, but pick
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  Speaker 3: up where they have been in OTAs and move forward.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the pathway to execution is really paid with
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  Speaker 3: repetition and the more repetitions, foundational repetitions this team can
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  Speaker 3: put in and get established as far as with all
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  Speaker 3: the team, not just the young players, the better they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Next Tuesday is the first day of Phase three, which
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  Speaker 5: is the first OTA and then there's two weeks of
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  Speaker 5: OTAs and this year there's a mini camp and then
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  Speaker 5: final week of OTAs. And what's important is that it's
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  Speaker 5: the first time they can go eleven on eleven. It's
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  Speaker 5: the first time they can have anything that really resembles
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  Speaker 5: what you know.
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  Speaker 4: When fans think of football practice.
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  Speaker 5: This is the first time that looks like football practice
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  Speaker 5: in the off season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And the difference in mini camp and OTAs is you
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  Speaker 5: have to go to mini camp, you don't have to
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  Speaker 5: go ta's.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to go to OTA's if you don't
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  Speaker 4: want to. So what are you looking for?
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  Speaker 5: You're looking for this team to look a lot more
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  Speaker 5: in tune than it did last year at this time.
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  Speaker 5: From what Liam Cohen said during rookie minicamp, he's already
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  Speaker 5: seeing that they're starting at a further along pace. You're
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  Speaker 5: not having to teach as many fundamentals, but you're still
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  Speaker 5: going over to the fundamentals. So it's going to look
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  Speaker 5: the same as it did last year, except you wanted
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  Speaker 5: to look crisper, and I have no reason to doubt
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  Speaker 5: that it will because it looks so crisp at the
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  Speaker 5: end of last season. Brian Liam said, I think during
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  Speaker 5: rookie mini caamp that you really wanted to see them
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  Speaker 5: sort of be able to start from a further along place,
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  Speaker 5: and I.
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  Speaker 2: Have no doubt that they've done that, and we will
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  Speaker 2: have it confirmed for us next Tuesday when they hit
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: the Ota field on Tuesday afternoon. Those are big things.
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  Speaker 2: We've got other things to share with you, including a
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  Speaker 2: deeper dive into the schedule. We'll talk about tough stretches,
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  Speaker 2: games we're looking forward to and more, and also the
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  Speaker 2: O zones not far away. So stay with us here
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  Speaker 2: on jags Am.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: We're back on drags Am. Welcome, glad to have you.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Mark Dufner here so as I like to say,
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: just because he blushes, and we said it's always a
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  Speaker 2: big show.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: Fellas.
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  Speaker 2: We started being a little bit on the schedule in
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  Speaker 2: big things, but let's talk about it since we haven't
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  Speaker 2: had a chance since the schedule came out. There's some
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: tough stretches in this I mean everyone wants to look
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  Speaker 2: at great a schedule. Is it a tough schedule? Are
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: there easy spots for them? There are a couple of
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  Speaker 2: really challenging spots. So each of you had a chance
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: to look at the schedule. Now, where do you see
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: the rough spot might be for this football team?
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  Speaker 3: Off, First of all, you know, I think said earlier
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  Speaker 3: appropriately that you never really know until you see four
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: or five games into the season really what those teams
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: are about. But going into it early in the season
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  Speaker 3: when we start off and we're playing at Denver, New England, Cincinnati, Philadelphia,
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: and Houston in London, geez before the buy, I mean,
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: that's a pretty tough stretch right there. Those teams reflective
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: of last year. Cincinnati is going to be on the
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: come right now, having a bounce back attitude, and they've
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: got to have a bounce back season. But when you
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: look at how good Denver was last year, New England's
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: play obviously Philadelphia and Houston, that's a tough stretch. So
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: that first one, I think is a concern. And then
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: later in the year when we get into play in Chicago,
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: the Bears, Pittsburgh here on a I think a Monday
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: night game if I'm not mistaken, Houston again on the road,
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: and then Dallas She's I mean, those are tough stretches
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  Speaker 3: in a row, so you know, again you can get
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: all excited about them. He right, now, we take them
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: the old cliches. We take them one at a time,
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: and if we've got to play them in the parking lot,
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: we play them in the parking lot. But these are
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: certainly all these games will commander our full attention.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: John.
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  Speaker 2: When you looked, did you find a stretch that you
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: thought might be a significant storyline or identity creating opportunity
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: for this team?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's right early, that five
• 11:37
  Speaker 5: game stretch and Cleveland. You know, the bad news there
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  Speaker 5: is the opener is always weird. So you can sit
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: there and say what Cleveland was X last year. We've
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: all seen enough openers to know it really didn't matter.
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  Speaker 5: So my experience is, I think this is a team
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: me and the Jaguars. They can contend deep into the
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: post season, and if they're healthy, I think I think
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: they could be a super Bowl team. Usually super Bowl
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: teams can get through stretches like this, right, and then
• 12:08
  Speaker 5: you're not worried about it, but I think you are
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: going to find out if you're good or not. I
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  Speaker 5: think they are good. I think they're going to find
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: out that they're good. But I wrote when I was
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: talking about this last week, getting you know, getting out
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  Speaker 5: of that stretch four and two will be an accomplishment
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  Speaker 5: and I think they can do it. But you'll feel
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: good about it if they do it. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: a team that I didn't feel as confident in, I
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: could see being two and four coming to that. But
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: I think the Jaggeds we saw last year they beat
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: good teams down the stretch. They can play well on
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: the road, being on the road, which they are a
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: lot this season. Didn't bother this team last year. So
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: I don't see anything that they can't do. They just
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: have to go do it now.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: This to me, and I wrote this for the schedule observations,
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: looks to be a schedule where the NFL is saying,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: prove it right. I mean, based on last year, you
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: won your final eight, you were one of the stories
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: of the season. There's the quarterback and Liam Cohen and
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: everything emerged. Now prove it, which is why they give you,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: you know, the Broncos in Denver and the Patriots here,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: two teams that played each other in the AFC Divisional.
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  Speaker 1: Game last year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this looks like gay in all the prime
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  Speaker 2: time because the two London games are essentially primetime and
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: then the other three primetime games.
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  Speaker 1: This to me, Mark says, what do you got?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I think you're one hundred percent correct. I
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  Speaker 3: mean that they're they're putting the challenge out there and
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: in big Bowl letters, if you will, as far as
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: that's concerned, and heck, that's what we want though. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you know, we don't want to be a flash
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: in the pan. We don't want to be a one
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  Speaker 3: year wonder, if you so to speak. So we're I
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: think this team, the way they attacked last year, as
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: you mentioned, how they played on the well, on the
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: road against the best competition in the league, I think
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: they're primed up for it and anxious to pick up
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  Speaker 3: from where they left off and know that they got
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: more in the tank and let's go get them.
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  Speaker 5: I think, Brian, if things go right this year, which
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: I have no reason to think that they won't, by
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: the end of the season, the Jaguars should feel like
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: a normal good team again, meaning you've seen them. If
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: you're not this market, if you're in you know, Scottsdale,
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: you've seen.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: The Jaguars four or five times, you're familiar with them.
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: To me, that Baltimore Ravens game on Thursday night mid season,
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: because they won't have been on prime time until then,
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  Speaker 5: is sort of the Okay, hey, now we're here, you know,
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: and you're playing another good team at some point for
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: this franchise, you've got what the five high profiles games
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: plus New England.
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  Speaker 4: At some point this year.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: It shouldn't feel like a surprise to people when the
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Jaguars are two and one in those or three and o,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: whatever it is. But when they've navigated things successfully, you
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: hope that by November December, that's not a huge story
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: and you're just chugging along and you're doing what you do,
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: which is beating good teams.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's how this year is gonna feel. Now.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: It won't feel routine around here. I'm not saying that
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: from a national point of view. I think by the
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: end of this year it's yeah.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: They're good, all right.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: So let's wrap up the schedule conversation with this what's
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: one game when you saw the schedule, you said, that's.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Gonna be fun.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's so many of them, which I think is
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: the overriding thing of this schedule is that they're six
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: or seven.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: They are going to be like that.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: The Dallas game late in the season over there at
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: at and T Stadium, and it's on that December twenty seventh,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: primetime Sunday. There's no official list of these, but that's
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: a pretty high profile moment because everybody's been off the
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: it's the last scheduled primetime game, I think because everything
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: else is TVD. So to me, that kind of shows, hey,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: we want the Jags and the Cowboys in primetime. That's
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: gonna be a sexy game. And duff you know all
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: about sexy games.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know a lot about it. I know
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: a lot about them. But for me, I kind of
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: look at that game. I think just before it's the
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Houston game in Houston, where you know, by that point
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: right now, we'll have I hope we have a chance
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to really lock up our division, and uh, that's going
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: to be a key. I know we play Indianapolis later on,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: so after the Dallas game, I believe so. Uh, but
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: but that's going to be a huge I think, uh,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: you know, a contest for us and certainly will determine
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of where we're going to go with the
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: postseason wise.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that has the feel to be the game, the
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: most important game of the year for that for me.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I went and we too.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I went with Denver early on obviously. But you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: last year the Jaguars took them by surprise. They didn't
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: just win the game, but they dominated the game. And
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: now you're going in there in week two and the
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Broncos are going to expect to be an AFC power again,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: but you won't. You won't sneak up on them, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: they're going to be absolutely looking at you.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And and we know that their.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Coaching staff, John Can, you can grind on things. So
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: there's probably gonna be a little of.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: That going right, no doubt about it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: But it was like commentary about small market. No, no, no, no, oh,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: that'll come back.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's that's fresh. Now that's all going to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: be fresh, and blood's going to be in the water
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: for that. But let me say this to you what
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: they did do last year going out and playing who
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: was hot as they could be, as hot as a
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: team as there wasn't a league when we played them
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: at that time, and like you said, didn't just beat them,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: beat them pretty darn good there. That was a huge,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: huge statement that I know resonated with that ball club
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: and certainly is part of the development building blocks for
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: our team.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: On As I said last Yember, I rarely used the
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: phrase statement game because.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I just usually see it as a cliche. It's too
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: easy to fall back on.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: In the last five ten years, there's never been a
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: statement game for this franchise like that. It was the
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: game that showed I think these players, everybody in this building, oh,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: what we've hoped was real is really real. They showed
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: the league that too, and I think that's the game
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: overall this franchise carries into this year saying, hey, we
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: do belong.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: It's what allows them to walk with their chest out
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: a little bit well.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And I just I love that environment. If I can't
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: be at home, I'd like to be in Denver. I
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: just think it's one of the best places to play
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: in the league. And you know, Sean Payton is going
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to try.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: To make it a statement game, no doubt for his team.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: All Right, we've got statements to make next when we
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: go into the Ozone mailbank, you're on jags Am stay
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: with us?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Is it Fritchy sud You know the John created that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That's John's voice.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's fantastic voice.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: That the music John sings the two it's all about
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: John's all about the Ozone. So let's get into it
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and get Mark's perspective on these questions as well. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: we will start with Sean from Oakley, who has a
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: thought about the stretch of schedule where the Jaguars will
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: be home or part of me away from home for
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: a very long time. Between weeks three and twelve, there's
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: only one home game in Jacksonville. The reason why, obviously,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: is they wanted that, don't Mark Lamping talked about it
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: early in the spring, having a window where the construction
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: crew could get back into the day and get some
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: things done because they're out for most of the ball John.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it's tough if you're not following
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: super closely and listening closely to everything that's said.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: It's it's tough to understand that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: But basically, the only way that they could get any
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: home games here this year and not have two years
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: away from the stadium was to have the construction timing
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: work to make twenty twenty eight possible, and they believe that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You know, that five.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Week window in twenty twenty six was necessary to set
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: up the construction for twenty seven into twenty eight, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: I probably botched the information, but somewhere in the spirit
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: that your bet, so yeah, it's it's not a great
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: thing to have one home game in an eight week
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: or six week span, but it was the alternative essentially
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: to having none.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: So that's why it happened.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: And again, Duff, this team was so good on the
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: road last year. To me, bad teams struggle with circumstance.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Good teams can typically play through that kind of thing.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I don't think they'll have.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: A huge issue without being able to.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Play here, nor do I. And this team showed a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: lot of maturity last year and how they handled that schedule,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and you know, really a lot of times the away
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: games get the chance for your team to be together,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and there's a word used bonding and all those type
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: of things that go on. And I found that our
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: focus and our attention to detail and as I said,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: team unity, if you will, was better when we were
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: on the road time after time, and so in a
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: lot of ways, you take this team currently with the
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: attitude they have, the maturity I mentioned that they've got,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: they'll take this as an advantage right now and you'll
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: see them come out of it with production.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: We also, I do think this is an opportunity to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: get ready for twenty twenty seven when every week is
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: going to seem like an away game because you're going
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to be getting on a bus and driving to Orlando.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: So there's some hardship through these two years of the stadium,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and at least, as John you said, you're getting games
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: here this year and not every game for two years
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: out of the market.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Good road performance is also in my experience for teams
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: that are good at it, it becomes a habit because
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: you know how to navigate it, and it almost becomes
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: muscle memory for these guys.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, now I've got to focus here. I gotta do this.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: So usually good road teams continue that if the core
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: of the team stays together.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you take advantage of it. You making an advantage
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: for yourselves and that this is what we've got. We
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: can't change it. Let's make it a positive. Let's make
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: it an advantage.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Up next is Cooper's mom, who's Cooper from Jacksonville, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: she is not a fan of a divisional opponent, especially
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the Texans, which would become such defeated rival in the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: recent past. But you're not a fan of this going
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to London.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, they've played, but the two or thirteen times
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: in London, you gotta play somebody over there. So the
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: thing to always remember about the stuff Most of the
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: emails I get complaining about London are why did the league.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Do X to us? Like it's a like it's a
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: villain situation.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Well, the Jaguars don't see London that way, and the
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: league doesn't either, meaning they want they have wanted to
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: play in London. So from the league's perspective, they're looking
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: at thirty two games when they schedule. This is a
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: home game and this is the one they put there.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: They're not saying, you know, bad Jaguars. You know, it's
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: not that fans take it that way, because some fans
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: don't want to lose any home games to that. That's
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: not the world we live in.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: So look.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: When where you're put just as many people get upset
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: if it's the other way. If all the home if
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: all the division games are here, just as many people
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: it's like, well I want to see something different, So
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: you can't please everybody.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I do think it's worth noting that the owners are.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Going to talk about it at the meetings this month in
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Orlando about by sending team's ability to protect home games.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: In other words, the league is saying that those games
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: are ours and we're going to put the games that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: matter the most to their international efforts over. So it's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: not just the Jaguars and their fans that can feel
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: slided when a game that they wanted here was moved
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a lot in. Every team in the league is losing
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: their ability to protect games because the league is saying,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we want to make sure that we're promoting the game internationally,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and that means taking some premiere games over. By the way,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the fact that the Texans Jaguars game has fallen apartment falling,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: has risen from wherever it was to that level that
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: they want to put it in London tells you something.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you look at it way way back, they
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: only put preseason games over there. Yeah, when they first
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: started the International series, most of the games felt like, Okay,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: we're going to put that one there because we don't
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: really want the other ones over here. If you look
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: at this year's schedule of international games, the premiere games,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: so at Jaggs, Philly, Jags, Houston, there's others they're putting
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: season openers over there. The league's not going to listen
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: to teams on this forever.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: A load zone question for today, and it comes from
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Nick from London and he wants to talk about the area.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Fact to John Well, there was certainly respect within this schedule.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I sometimes ball could respect questions because then I can't
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: really quantify what it means. But if you think that,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: if you believe respect is national television, then there's a
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: lot of respect there. Because there's the five that we've
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: already talked about, the prime time or the international morning games.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Then there's also Denver is gonna be shown to most
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: of the country. I can't imagine it won't be New
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: England early in the season. Is that one o'clock slot
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: that is shown. I would expect that to be shown
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: to eighty five nine percent of the country.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: So that's seven that there's no way Denver Jack you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: first place, first place, first place, first place, those.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Are gonna be premium games the end, I would expect
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: that Texans game at one o'clock late in the season.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: That's gonna be a big entry and maybe one of
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: the last two at your tvd uh.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: And here's the thing with respect games, they also become
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: hard games.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: So you want to respect you got it?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: How did you up be tough as a coach when
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you would get the primetime games? Listen, John and I joke,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: although we kind of need it, there's nothing like a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: one o'clock game, right, I mean, it keeps you, it
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: keeps your schedule consistent. The primetime games are fun, don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: get me wrong. We enjoy covering them as well. But
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: if you've got a schedule full of one o'clock games,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: you're happy.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Because you're consistent.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Right, you love it?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: But but but how did you approach it when you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: were coaching?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Well, again, i'd love the one o'clock games such like
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you're talking about, because again, you're trying to get this
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: game done, graded and then move on to the next game,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: so you're you can play in your schedule. You want
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to be as productive as you can. There's no changes
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: in it right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Now, feel like you're chasing your correct well, and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: When you get some of these other primetime games, you
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: know that, jeez, Peter, you know you've got to start ahead.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: You might even start the game on Monday of the
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: next game. When you're playing Monday night. You got to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: be careful not to put all this conflicting data in
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: your head. So that oh I thought was this game,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it was that game. In other words, they're going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: run screen right now, they don't run them know it's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the next team. So I mean, you can get confused.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: But the exposure that you get for your players as coaches,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you want these guys work very, very hard. You want
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: them to be the top show in town if you will,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and have all of America looking at it. I've been
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: with some clubs where we didn't have that early on
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: because they didn't have as many of those games. So
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: any exposures a plus for your team.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You look at the Chiefs who have been a primetime
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: darling in the Homes year, and I think the Rams
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: this year have six.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Or seven primetime game.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: And can wear you out. Yeah, but you better get
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: used to it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: If you're good, you're going to be there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: There's only one thing better than seventeen one o'clock games.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: It's seventeen one o'clock home game. I'm with that's my
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: dream schedule someday before I get this business, I'm going
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: to get seventeen.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I pray that you do.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: All Right, We're going to come back and talk hair
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: again if you can believe it, as we wrap up
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: another edition of Jags.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a look. It's something very big that is building.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the stadium. They've been putting that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: If you can see that piece that's on the ground,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: they've been putting that together for weeks and I'm wondering
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: how in the world that one crane is going to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: pick that up. And I keep asking people what is that?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Someone today said, it's part of the stadium.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like a conrector set or something.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Like lega.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Well you're old enough to remember tinker toys, Yeah, director set. Yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. If you haven't had a chance to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: just drive by right on base or or Bay Drive,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Bay Street, drive by and just just travel a slow
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and take a look at all that's going on around here,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: it's pretty exciting.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Then twenty seven is gonna be unbelievable. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: that work for that eighteen month, it's amazing to watch
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: it real.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to see progress. This is progress, man,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: and it's moving every day twenty four to seven.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I get out and speak to rotary clubs,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: did you know Bartrum and Ponovidra and people that don't
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: work downtown, and they ask what's going on?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I said, just get in the car and drive.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You know, the office building is open, the four Seasons
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is coming along, and the construction on the stadium is
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: just awe inspiring. Speaking of all inspiring, the haircut video,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: which when I first hearded the concept, I went, how
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: are you going to do that? But the Trevor Lawrence
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: schedule released video was brilliant and it was pulled the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: hoff to the point that people were questioning whether or
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: not it was real, which I thought was remarkable that
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: he would get his haircut for this, So I thought, listen,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: he'd get a better haircut than that. No offense to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the people who did it, but he'd probably get a
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: sharper haircut. So I went looking and the behind the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: scenes stuff is just awesome, Brian.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you right now. Until just a few
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: minutes ago, I thought it was really so I'm still
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: one of those guys that's in the believers category. For sure.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It got him a lot of attention, but again, the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: finished product made me think, yeah, they had to fit
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that around a you know, around the cosmetic side of it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So I went looking for various haircuts.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: This is one where they just switched haircuts between Mac
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Jones and Trevor Lawrence and that one turned out to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: be kind of funny.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But there are so many sporting.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: The Donald Trump, that's right, and what you can do
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: with social media and AI today is quite honestly one
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: didn't he Yeah, this one just sort of popped up.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: There's just so many variations on hair and if you're Trevor,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I guess you gotta have fun with this one. But
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: so many people are interested in your haircut that it
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: became a viral moment and the Jaguars played it so perfect.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, sometimes athletes aren't aren't. What you see
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: is what you get. Trevor is and not every starting
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: quarterback in the NFL would have been a good sport
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: gotten on board with this, or hey, I want to
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: do that, you know, I don't want to look silly
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: or what you know.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I've been worried about that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: He's a good sport, he knows how to not take
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: himself too seriously in the right situations, knows how to engage.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I probably don't know as many people around town as
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: you do, Brian, but I know people who engage with
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Trevor outside the building, and he is He's a first
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: class person. And this is another example of I guess
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: why he's.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: The right guy to be the face of this franchise.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Before they drafted him, I thought he was the perfect
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: candidate to be a Jaguars quarterback, not just because he
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: was a good quarterback, but because of all of that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: A kid that grew up in the South, the kid
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that played at Clemson, he was married right before he
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: even arrived here. Just this down to earth superstar quarterback.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Think about that for a minute. How many of them
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: you've encountered down to earth superstar quarterback? And John you
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: just knew Ridy very well, a really first class human
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: being who had fun with it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And the Jaguars got a lot of mileage from that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: So kudos to everybody, the production team that did that,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the digital marketing team that made sure that it became viral,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and Trevor for taking the time.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with that a dot A great team effort by everybody,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: let by Trevor and how he handled them, the maturity
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and as you said, the lack of ego involved. You
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: don't see that very often, but highly impressive by him.
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  Speaker 4: You can grow your hair out into the cut. Oh
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  Speaker 4: with you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about that. In fact, I've been approach about that. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I will do it.
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  Speaker 2: Next year's video will be Mark Duffner. Stay tuned for
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  Speaker 2: that one. Duff thanks for joining us as always been.
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  Speaker 1: Really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me for.
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  Speaker 2: John O's you're Mark Duffner and our entire production crew.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for jags am right back here
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  Speaker 2: next week. By the way, talking OTAs which open next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great day.