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Elizabeth Vargas is much more than a "Housewife" · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: real conversations in a new language today. You probably think
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  Speaker 1: you know today's guest because she became famous on The
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Orange County. But as today's interview will prove,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know the real Elizabeth Vargas at all. We
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  Speaker 1: had such a fun yet deep conversation. Real Housewives gave
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  Speaker 1: us just a snippet of who Elizabeth is, but it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing to be able to talk in depth with
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  Speaker 1: her about her real life. So many people tend to
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  Speaker 1: have their guards up after doing a reality show, but
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  Speaker 1: she was absolutely so open. We talked about relationships, about
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  Speaker 1: growing up with trauma, her entrepreneurial spirit. She's so positive,
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  Speaker 1: even about things in her life that were pretty rough.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a little bit about the housewives and then
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  Speaker 1: get some great behind the scenes stories. You won't believe
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  Speaker 1: what she thought she was auditioning for when she went
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  Speaker 1: in to meet executives for the first time. Get ready
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  Speaker 1: for Elizabeth Vargas on Misunderstood with Rachel Ucadel. Elizabeth, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for joining me. I'm so happy to
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  Speaker 1: finally meet you. We have such a great mutual friend,
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  Speaker 1: David Weintraub, and it's my honor and my pleasure to
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  Speaker 1: have you on Misunderstood.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. It's my honor to actually meet you. I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 1: So in sifting through your Instagram and through seeing what
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  Speaker 1: people see of you from the Housewives show, people think
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  Speaker 1: that you live this fabulous, luxurious life. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to go back to your beginnings because whether or not
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  Speaker 1: people know this, and some do, but some really don't,
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  Speaker 1: that you came from very humble beginnings and you had
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on in your childhood. And I really
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  Speaker 1: want to start there to really paint a picture for
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  Speaker 1: people of who you are based on you know, really
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  Speaker 1: where you came from as opposed to what people read
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  Speaker 1: and believe about you now. So talk to me about
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  Speaker 1: where you're from, what your childhood was like, that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing.
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  Speaker 4: My father was a preacher slash knife salesman door to door.
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  Speaker 4: My mother was a stay-at-home mom and we lived on
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  Speaker 4: a farm slash ranch and very humble beginnings in Missouri.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we we had our own cattle. We had
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  Speaker 4: our own, our own sheep.
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  Speaker 2: We had our own chicken. We had our own eggs.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I know how to milk a cow, put
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  Speaker 2: it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great skill to have.
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  Speaker 2: So they, I know how to milk a cow. It
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  Speaker 2: turned it out handy in the video later on.
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  Speaker 1: I'll use that more than algebra though.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you, mom. You're so amazing. Um, No,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, Missouri, the farm, preacher dad, um, very humble,
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  Speaker 4: but very blessed, uh, to be able to be around
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  Speaker 4: all the animals and everything. And then, uh, moved to
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  Speaker 4: Washington state after I was around 12, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: got through, we were, we went to private school as
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  Speaker 4: well in Missouri. So I was really secluded and really, uh,
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  Speaker 4: not allowed to see a lot of people outside of
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  Speaker 4: the church environment in Missouri.
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  Speaker 2: So I was really, um, What do you call it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm having a brain fart. Anyway, I didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: brain fart. Secluded. Secluded, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so then when we moved to Washington State, my
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  Speaker 4: mom wanted to kind of get us out of that
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  Speaker 4: church environment. We ended up going to public school and
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  Speaker 4: it was a shock. I didn't even, we had no
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  Speaker 4: idea how to handle a public school. And so it
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  Speaker 4: was a shock and I was made fun of a lot.
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  Speaker 4: And I was told I was a nerd.
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  Speaker 2: I had an accent.
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  Speaker 4: So I went to speech class to get rid of
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  Speaker 4: my accent. um, you know, my little twang and then, um, so.
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  Speaker 2: I could be accepted in school.
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  Speaker 4: Um, but I was always picked on, always teased, but
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  Speaker 4: I excelled in everything just to prove it to everybody that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I wasn't the dark nerd that you guys
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  Speaker 4: are all blaming me to be. I was picked on
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  Speaker 4: a lot, but it was great.
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  Speaker 2: You know, whatever I learned.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, um, Talk to me about the church that you
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  Speaker 1: are a part of. I know a lot of this
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  Speaker 1: came out during your stint on The Housewives. But what
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  Speaker 1: was that like to grow up with your family so
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  Speaker 1: heavily involved in this church? I know that it was
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  Speaker 1: really more like a cult than a church. So explain
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  Speaker 1: to people what that's like, because I think that there
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  Speaker 1: is a misconception from people about the difference in the two.
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  Speaker 2: There is an extreme difference.
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  Speaker 4: There is a spirituality and a love for God and
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  Speaker 4: love for the powers that be and angels above. And
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  Speaker 4: then there's the cult-like atmosphere, which is very controlling, manipulative
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  Speaker 4: and evil.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I was raised in.
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  Speaker 4: I learned very early in life how to lie to
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  Speaker 4: the elders in order to not be beaten or not
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  Speaker 4: be locked in a closet or whatever. So the environment
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  Speaker 4: that I grew up in was very harsh, very manipulative
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  Speaker 4: and rough. I I didn't know it was going to
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  Speaker 4: come out on the housewives, um, but it did. And
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  Speaker 4: I think in today's environment with a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: child trafficking and a lot of the kids being.
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  Speaker 2: Abused that, um, my whole life, I hid that.
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  Speaker 4: Secret, uh, cause you know, the church environment was exactly that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, abusing children, um, sexually and physically and, For
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  Speaker 4: us to get out of that, my mom got us
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  Speaker 4: out of that environment was a blessing, but now going
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  Speaker 4: through life and I'm an adult, I see these stories
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  Speaker 4: coming out that have to do with child trafficking and
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  Speaker 4: have to do with child abuse. It makes me even
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  Speaker 4: more keen on moving forward with how can I help
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  Speaker 4: because I actually lived it. So I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 4: moving to Washington, we got out of it, but I
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  Speaker 4: do know exactly what happens.
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  Speaker 2: I do know exactly how it works.
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  Speaker 4: And I do know exactly if you have somebody to
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  Speaker 4: help you, you can get out of it. And I
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  Speaker 4: know exactly the lifelong turmoil that a child is going
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  Speaker 4: to bear, the guilt when they have to come out
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  Speaker 4: of that environment. My whole life I've lived with it.
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  Speaker 2: And I've lived in the shadow of that guilt of
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  Speaker 2: somebody else's fault. And it's a horrific experience. way to live.
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  Speaker 2: You really have to have some strong people around you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I really wanted to ask you about that a
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  Speaker 1: little more. So I went to a therapeutic boarding school.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've read about those, but those
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  Speaker 1: have similar people believe that they're, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: go down the same road of being like cults. My
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  Speaker 1: boarding school that I went to from 12 to 17 was,
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  Speaker 1: it was called Sedu. It was based on the Sinanon cult.
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  Speaker 1: And we had to wear specific clothes. We can only
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  Speaker 1: listen to specific music. We could not talk to anyone
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  Speaker 1: in the outside world. I couldn't talk to my family
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  Speaker 1: or friends. You had to make all new friends. We
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  Speaker 1: had to work on a farm. We had to eat
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  Speaker 1: what we were given there. And And we had to
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  Speaker 1: do certain exercises. It was very physical. We had to
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of physical work there. I had to
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  Speaker 1: dig a grave with a spoon and lay in it.
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  Speaker 1: And so while I was there, though, of course, I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to leave. I wanted to get out. I ran
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  Speaker 1: away a couple of times. eventually I grew to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have another way out. I was so young, right?
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  Speaker 1: And my parents, my mother had sent me there. So
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  Speaker 1: I really had nowhere to go when I ran away.
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  Speaker 1: So also while I was there, my father died. So
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  Speaker 1: I really felt like it was like a place where
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  Speaker 1: it became my family. I didn't know any different. So
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  Speaker 1: I started to go- He groomed you also.
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  Speaker 2: You're being groomed. There's no question.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I, I became accustomed to following the rules and
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  Speaker 1: then I became the person that instilled the rules as
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  Speaker 1: I got older there to the younger, newer kids. And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a cult. I mean, later
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  Speaker 1: on in, you know, I think it was 1996, it was,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe 10 years after that, but it was shut
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  Speaker 1: down for abuse. And I, while I was there, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see it as something that I was involved in
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  Speaker 1: a cult until I could step out of it later
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  Speaker 1: on in life and realize that This is not the
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  Speaker 1: way to be treated, you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And this isn't normal to bury yourself in your own
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  Speaker 2: grave and see how it feels.
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  Speaker 1: No, but it's like when, when adults are telling you
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  Speaker 1: that this is how you have to follow rules. So
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I have grown up having some, some good
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  Speaker 1: qualities from it. I don't, I, I definitely have learned
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  Speaker 1: not to lie. I know about boundaries. I've learned because
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  Speaker 1: we would get in so much trouble if we got
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  Speaker 1: caught for anything. You know, I didn't want to be punished.
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  Speaker 1: So I learned how to not be punished.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So but I think it's also made it very difficult
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  Speaker 1: in my life to trust people. And so. to be
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  Speaker 1: part of any organized religion. So I'm curious, are you
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  Speaker 1: still religious or did that take a lot of your
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  Speaker 1: faith away?
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  Speaker 4: It absolutely took my faith away. I've spent years finding
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  Speaker 4: my own self through self-awareness, not through any external influence
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  Speaker 4: because I don't believe in people.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe in religion.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe in big screens and giving money to
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  Speaker 4: a pastor that flies.
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  Speaker 2: A jet and rides in a yacht.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very cynical when it comes to preachers, but spirituality
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  Speaker 4: is different. I believe I have angels above that have
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  Speaker 4: certainly created a path for me of light that I
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  Speaker 4: can share with others and somehow in my life, give
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  Speaker 4: back my experience to give some other woman hope or
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  Speaker 4: some other little girl hope that you can get out
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  Speaker 4: of that. You can create an atmosphere that you're safe
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  Speaker 4: in that.
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  Speaker 2: You can meet a man. I never thought I could
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  Speaker 2: ever meet anybody. Relationships.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure like you relationships with adults or anybody is different.
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  Speaker 2: You don't feel normal.
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  Speaker 4: You can't, you can't, I never knew like you, I
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  Speaker 4: never knew it wasn't right until I got in trouble with,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and accidentally told a neighbor and the church
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  Speaker 4: got shut down.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, it was my fault. So I got
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  Speaker 2: cast out of the church.
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  Speaker 4: My whole family did. And we moved to Washington because
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  Speaker 4: I did something. And my father had claimed I, I
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  Speaker 4: was the culprit. I was, you know, he told me
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  Speaker 4: you just lost a father, but he moved with us
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  Speaker 4: to Washington and he died like you. And I never
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  Speaker 4: got closure with him. I never got to really fully
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  Speaker 4: understand what he had put.
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  Speaker 2: Us through before he died.
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  Speaker 4: So I couldn't like sit there and go, you idiot,
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  Speaker 4: what you did to your children. So, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's really affected, like you, decisions. But if we can
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  Speaker 4: harness this entanglement of our past and really try and
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  Speaker 4: make this pathway to positivity and know that we are
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  Speaker 4: where we are at today because we're supposed to be
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  Speaker 4: a tool for others. If we understand that, then I
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  Speaker 4: think there's a goal and there's a purpose behind all
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  Speaker 4: the abuse. I just have to find a purpose because
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  Speaker 4: if I don't find a purpose, I'm just miserable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I totally understand that.
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  Speaker 2: I got to find a purpose. I'm like, wow.
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  Speaker 3: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 3: for it?
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  Speaker 5: This exclusive place at Data's Connections with they have more
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  Speaker 5: cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 6: It's Dunediel.
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  Speaker 4: Where?
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  Speaker 6: Dunediel. There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 3: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dunediel Cars.
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  Speaker 2: Lyft? Please.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: Dunediel Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Um, so you talked about relationships with men. You eventually
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  Speaker 1: met and married a man who you were married to
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  Speaker 1: for 17 years, 20 years at the end, right?
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  Speaker 2: We were married for five together for 20. Okay. Twice.
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  Speaker 2: I said, no, you know, fear of a commitment. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you, uh, who were you when you
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  Speaker 1: met your husband? Were you working? Were you, did you
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  Speaker 1: have aspirations? Like tell me about who you were.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I've always worked.
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  Speaker 4: Um, I don't care if it's six bucks an hour,
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  Speaker 4: five bucks an hour, uh, three bucks an hour being
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  Speaker 4: a babysitter. I worked since I was 12, um, 13. And, um,
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  Speaker 4: I've always been a hard worker and a runner. I
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  Speaker 4: run and it's therapy for me. So I was a
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  Speaker 4: state champion and running, you know, I'm just very, I
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  Speaker 4: have such a drive.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane. This fire inside me because of the abuse.
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  Speaker 4: I just didn't want to tell anybody. So in order
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  Speaker 4: for me to get it out, um, the fireball, I
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  Speaker 4: would run and I would work myself to death. And
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  Speaker 4: so when I met my ex or my ex, um, Barrett, uh, Bodell,
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  Speaker 4: I was working three jobs, trying to make it broke
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  Speaker 4: a jazz singer. Cause singing jazz was my therapy in nightclubs.
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  Speaker 4: So I was underage singing in nightclubs and you know, summertime,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I can really make it move.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, it was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: And I was very sexual as a young girl because
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  Speaker 4: I went through a lot of sexual abuse. So I
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  Speaker 4: had this sexuality about me that I didn't really know. I,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mean to be groomed that way, but I was,
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  Speaker 4: and even though I'm not in that sexual environment anymore,
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  Speaker 4: I'm still a sexual individual. And I, but I learned
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  Speaker 4: not to make that who I was, but in singing,
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  Speaker 4: you could create a cool Jessica rabbit vibe and, And
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  Speaker 4: it's accepted. So I learned that in jazz, I could
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  Speaker 4: be really flirty and fun on stage and then get off.
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  Speaker 2: And be this miserable person that I was. So I
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  Speaker 2: met him. Misery loves company. And then we got married
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  Speaker 2: to miserable. Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: OK, so but I mean, was there some redeeming quality
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  Speaker 1: to it? I mean, you must have. Did you enjoy
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  Speaker 1: being married?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. No, no. So I fell in love with
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  Speaker 2: my husband. He came to all my shows. Barrett is
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  Speaker 2: the most amazing person. I mean, we fight back.
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  Speaker 4: And forth, but he really showed me the light, really
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  Speaker 4: gave me a path to forgiveness.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't talk a lot about my past, but he
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  Speaker 2: knew about it. He, you know, without his OCD stability,
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  Speaker 2: as wealthy as he was, you know, I was broke.
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  Speaker 2: He was rich. This thing, you know, he was using
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  Speaker 2: my youth, which is priceless.
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  Speaker 4: And I was, you know, we're using each other. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't like a one-sided, you know, show here.
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  Speaker 2: And so together we made a great team.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we would go to, I would introduce, he
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  Speaker 4: was very introvert. I would introduce him to people because
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  Speaker 4: I'm an extrovert. He would be very, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: rich guy, CEO in a, you know, board meeting. And
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like, Hey, and we, you know, we'd hire like, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Motley Crue to play at a show and we'd,
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  Speaker 4: you know, here Vince Neal, here's, you know, here's my
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  Speaker 4: husband Barron. And Barron would be like, hi, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so we together, we made a great team for, for
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  Speaker 4: 20 years. And, you know, I wouldn't, I'd still be
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  Speaker 4: with him cause I was still in love with him
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  Speaker 4: when I filed for divorce, but he had some, some
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  Speaker 4: mishaps with other women during the marriage, um, allegedly, uh,
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  Speaker 4: through the divorce process.
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  Speaker 2: Um, you know, we're still, we're still friends. So, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask, what is your relationship now
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  Speaker 1: with him? Your friends?
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  Speaker 2: We're friends. And, you know, he called me a little
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  Speaker 2: while ago and, and I guess he's remarried. So good
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  Speaker 2: for them. Uh, he loves to be married. So, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Um, and you know, he's going through some ailments with
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  Speaker 4: his health right now, really serious ones.
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  Speaker 2: So I told him if.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Whoever he's with, um, wasn't going to be there when
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: he started looking emaciated, I would be there for him.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm assuming you can guess what that ailment might be. Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so sorry. Well, we wish him the best
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: of luck, obviously.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: He's lived a great life.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: So, uh, but I will, I would definitely be there
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: for him if anything happened just because he was there
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: And, you know, as you, you know, just finding your
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: way through life as a child, getting, having that history,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: feeling uncomfortable, feeling like an outcast, trying to just be
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: normal and, It's hard.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: And he really forced me to be normal around really
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: wealthy people. I had to be, you know, he groomed
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: me to be the perfect wife, literally groomed me. And
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I would say that would be bad if I wasn't
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: already messed up before I met him.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: But it was actually a good thing.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Because I got to understand the wealth of the environment
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: and I got to really meet great people. And, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: in the end, I only am as successful as my
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: past is.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And my lawyers.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: And ultimately I learned what, how to take care of
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: great homes, how to take care of yachts and jets
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: and helicopters.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: And I knew the whole life. Right. I had to
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: know a little bit.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, you know, it's always interesting to me when
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: people say their marriage failed or, you know, they're upset
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: about the outcome of it. But I, I do think
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that you're an example of someone who can take the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: years that you did have with him as like a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: learning experience. You grew up kind of with him. He was, um, older,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit older than you, right?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Um, Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, he, I think you probably learned
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: from him. He obviously, you know, learned from you, got
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: something from you that he needed. You kept him young,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, you gave him a voice.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I had a father figure, but not, you know, father
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: figure thing.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think a lot of people, you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: have a problem with that, but at the same time, it,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you know, it's something you will always cherish. And even
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: though that relationship ended and it was very, um, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: difficult and I'm sure a lot of ups and downs
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: with that. I'm really happy to hear that you can
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: be in a place where, you know, that at the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: end or when he needs you, you are someone who
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: will be there. I think that says a lot about you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and him, even though you guys have gone through a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: lot and may still be going through a little bit.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So I am happy to hear about that. So talk
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to me about how the Housewives franchise came upon you.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: How did that happen?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, what a whirlwind. I can't even believe
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I was on that show. What a crazy, crazy ride.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I was in music.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I owned a tech company, an edge music network. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in the interim of owning that music company, I met
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a rapper named Too Shorts. He's a San Francisco Bay
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Area rapper. Everyone knows him.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I know him too.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't know him. And so I just, I thought
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he was going to be really short when I met
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: him and he wasn't.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's great.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: That's so cool.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: So, you know, I met him and we ended up
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: working together. He was really responsible. So we remained friends. Well,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: during the divorce.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: My ex-husband had invested a lot of money in the company.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: So the judge kind of, we shut it down. because
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: it was both of us that owned it. You know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I started a vodka company later, but so in the interim, uh,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Todd has this manager, David Weintraub, Weintraub.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: How do you say it? Weintraub? Or I always call
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: him Weintraub.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Weintraub.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I've never used his last name.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Like Dick Traub. Dick Traub. Dick Traub.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Weintraub.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: No, but, uh, No, so Todd said, David has an
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: opportunity for you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Call David. He's my manager. I'm like, okay, whatever.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: So David calls me, however this worked. I don't know
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: if he called me, I called him. And he's like,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: there's an opening for The Housewives. And I thought it
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: was The Desperate Housewives with Eva Longoria.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Which I watched. I don't know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Were you an actress?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: No, but I just thought, oh my God, this would
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: be amazing.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So at the time, had you not watched any of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the Housewives franchises?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: No.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't know any of them.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I knew Kelly Dodd had partied hard with
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: my neighbor, Rob, and they were always kind of like
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: they're drinking. And I, you know, Rob was always telling
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: me this is a housewife and I didn't really care.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, reality people, you know, but then
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I am one.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And then Kelly came over once and I, so I
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: met her once. She liked my shoe closet and then
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: we got along great afterwards, but we didn't like each
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: other at first. Then we got along, but, um, So
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: David says, do your hair and makeup because he knows
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Dress in your fineness. Bring your Bentley and meet me
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: in Burbank tomorrow.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Bring your Bentley.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Is this deep horn? Like Burbank? Really, David? And too short.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Imagine.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: What's my name?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: So I drive up there. I get dressed in the
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: parking lot. I'm coming from other work. David holds up
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a towel. I'm getting dressed. I'm trying to brush my hair.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I've got this interview and I walk in. I, I.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: We put, we pull up to the building and I,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and I see this group of people sitting at the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: window and I thought, Oh, cool. Maybe evil is going
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to be in there. I literally thought this.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Wait, he didn't say watch a couple episodes.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: No, nothing. It was like the next day.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: So I think it was the next day. And David
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: still doesn't believe me, but this is exactly what I thought.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: My brain was busy. I did not have time for
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: David's crap.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was serious. I didn't know
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: what this was. And everyone says they're going to get
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you on a show. Sure. So I opened the door
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and there's all the Orange County Housewife posters. And I went,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: my heart just went, boo.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: This is the wrong person. housewives. Oh my God. It
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: was like, fuck. So I just went along with it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: No big deal. I walked in thinking I'm not going
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to do this. They sat me in this, this room
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in the middle of this humongous, awesome looking editing studio thing,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: amazing looking building with this glass room in the middle
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and a boardroom table. And then all these guys come
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: in like, you know, very flamboyant. I was like, hi guys.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And And they were like, they told me the scoop.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I listened. I told him who I was,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: told him I was a divorcing parent.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Well, wait, hold on. What was their scoop? Like, what
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: did they want? What were they pitching to you? Were
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they telling you about the show? Were they telling you
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: what they were looking for?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just both talked about the show and they
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: were done casting for the next season.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Then we just hit it off like this. Like, it
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: was awesome. They were just great producers.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But I'm curious, are they looking for a certain character
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: when that happens? Or are they just interviewing you and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: letting you be you?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: They're just interviewing you. They don't want characters. That's all you.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, those, those women are those women. I mean,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: off camera, we're a little more friendly, but that's how
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: they are. Like they, they're not, you can, you can
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: say bullshit, but they are who they are.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And so I just figured I wasn't going to get
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the gig. So I didn't even care. So I'm just
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: shooting the shit, you know, talking about my ex-husband, like
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I'll fuck the mistresses and the babies and the girlfriends.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, ah, I can't deal with this
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: right now. And then I leave. Well, then a couple,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of days later. You
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: have to ask David. They go, are you sitting down?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no. They're like, well, sit down. I'm like, oh, fuck.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Got it. And then they go, congratulations. If you want it,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you got it. Wow. Oh, my God.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: And David goes, yeah, they were done casting and they
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: picked you. So then all the housewives that had interviewed
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: in Orange County were.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Pissed, apparently. But I don't know any of them. By
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the way, I don't know any of them. So they
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: gave it to me and told me not to tell anybody.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: for it?
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Do you mean.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Lift?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: No.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Done deal cars you couldn't possibly go anywhere.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Else but then they had me go to these parties
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: with all the women right so I met them all
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and they didn't know I was the new housewife oh
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: so were.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You like hi I'm the new housewife.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: No not at all I was just like meeting them
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and saying hi it was like who's this and I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I thought okay I'm gonna wear a big booby dress
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna wear blue you know Emily's birthday party
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: whatever it was someone's birthday party I don't remember Emily
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: was there. Shannon was there. That Bronwyn chick was there.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And I think you were, you were friends with Kelly
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: by now. No, or it was just like an acquaintance
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: type of thing.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: No, they, they, they told me to be friends with her.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: She was the only connect to the housewives. So they
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: kind of made Kelly be my friend.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: And so we're friends now. Um, we're not BFFs by
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: any means, but we're friends. And so, you know, I'm
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: friends with Shannon as well. Emily, you know, all of
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: them have stayed at my houses. Um, Gina has stayed
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: on my beach house with her family. Emily stayed in
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: my desert house. Shannon brought her twins to my, their
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: birthdays in my desert house. You know, it's, it's, we're
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: friends and we, we share stuff and we do stuff,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: but we're not like, you know, and Kelly, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: she's we've gone out sometimes and she and Rick, when
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: they were buying stuff, they would stay at my, I mean, we,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: we kind of just mingle.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: We're, we're fine. But in the beginning, I didn't know anybody.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: And I was really trying to say hi to everybody
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: because they wanted me to meet people. So I met
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: one photo to send to the producers. So I ended
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: up accomplishing that goal. And then the first party, Bronwyn,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: we went to this other bar and I was trying
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: to get to know Bronwyn, another party. And she tried
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: to make out with me and I denied her. And
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: ever since then, she hated me.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: So she- Time out.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So I said time out. Wait, hold on. So I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: so confused by this. When you started the season, had
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: she already come out as being a lesbian or bi
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch any of it. So what happened was
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I watched a couple of the old shows, first show
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of every season, because it gives you a recap so
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I could see who these women were. And I never
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: watched one with Bronwyn in it because she was new.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So I didn't get to watch that one. And so
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't know who she was, but I was told
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: she was a housewife.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: But in your season, she was dealing with her alcoholism, correct?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And she was still with her husband?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, alcoholism. And I think she's always been dealing with that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And I hope her the best on that. And her
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: coming out as a lesbo. But the issue with.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Her, come on. Bless her heart. All these people are
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: coming out as late in life lesbians. Are we supposed
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to do that too?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Okay. I dabbled in high school later on, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I gave my ex-husband a few flings here and there,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: but you know, it wasn't like, oh my God, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: really want to look bush for the rest of my life.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: It doesn't quite, but I think, I think that, you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I think Bronwyn has tendencies.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I think she has an addiction issue.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Like having children and alcohol, addicted to the camera, addicted
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to fame, addicted to children, baby bearing, and addicted to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: alcohol and whatever other drug. And so she was definitely
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: really struggling and she put it on me. They tried
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: to make her my friend. as if I was just
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: as dysfunctional as she was. And it was humiliating because
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, this woman is a different level of dysfunction.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I've got childhood issues. So she actually made friends with
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: my ex-husband. She found his phone number online and contacted him.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: And then my ex-husband's current girlfriend at that time knew
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: about my history because Barrett had told her. And apparently
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: she told Bronwyn about my church cult. And then Bronwyn,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: to get to use on the show as my storyline.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: So they brought it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Out on camera that day that I had the real
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: panic attack. I didn't know they were bringing it up.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I had no idea it was even going to come
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: out on the show. And so Bronwyn was a big,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: now I look back at it and I've helped so
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: many women with it coming out that it's a blessing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: But at the time it was really, really shitty of really,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: really shitty of Bronwyn to, tell the producers and have
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: them force me to talk about it on camera in
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: the middle of Lake Arrowhead on a trail with cameras
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: around me with Brahman, who.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I couldn't stand.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Cause you know, I, I couldn't stand her. And I,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: thought it was real. That was a real emotion.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: She was so fake that I don't like to be
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: around that energy and I'm a real big energy person.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: And that energy was just putting me with her, trying
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: to make me friends. And I just felt this goo
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: every time I was around her. And so I'm hoping
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: now she's a little bit better, but, um, It was,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: she was having some, she let it all out of me.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I was her soundboard for her negativity during the whole show.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: So the season was really dark with her in it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I even, I don't pray.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: And I just kept saying, okay, angels, help this woman.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: She's fighting alcoholism, lesbianism, husbandism, childrenism, living situationism, housekeeperism, whatever
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: she was.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Fighting, she was fighting.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And you know, at the end of the day, the
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: season was extremely dark, COVID hit, and it just became
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: a disaster.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And, but it's one of the number one rerun shows.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So that's, that's good. Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Talk about that for a minute. What was it like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: filming during COVID? Did you, how did that work?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, disaster.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, they were extremely professional, but I didn't get
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: one red carpet, no press, no watch happens live, film
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: my testimonials in my, in my garage with boob sweat
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: and nobody Nobody, no air makeup. It was just basically, okay, action. And,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the producers were out in.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: A van, you know, and you can't have air conditioning
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: on because of sound. I mean, it just, it was
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: just like weird. And, and, you know, we had a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: COVID person there and, uh, you know, or we'd get
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: shut down.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: You couldn't, I didn't get to meet any of the girls,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: but they just kept forcing Brahman down my throat.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And I was like, dude, stop it. We're not going
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to be friends. I'm not gonna be friends with that
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: energy right now. I'm going through a divorce. I can't
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: deal with that energy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: So I didn't really get to get close to any
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: of the girls because they just shoved ramen down my
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: throat the whole season. Wow.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't like you spent as much time with
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: everyone as they made it seem and that you became,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you know, immersed in everyone's life like they made it
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: seem on the on the season.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: They did a really good job of editing, which I
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: think they always do. Excellent producers, excellent camera crew. They
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: worked their butts off to be compliant with COVID. It
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: was a whole different ballgame.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was awesome.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But it's not like you created some, you know, I've
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: been on a reality show where you almost feel like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that becomes your TV family, you know, because you're put
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: into scenarios with them. You trust them. They're going through
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the same thing you're going through with all the press. So, no,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you did not have that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Afterwards I did. We all took a deep breath and
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: we're like, oh my God, we lived through COVID on
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: a TV show. Yeah. Couldn't believe it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: We were like, afterwards we all were like friends because
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: of that unity.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: We all were like, okay.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, not Bronwyn, she won't talk to any of us,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: but we kind of all laughed about it. Like, wow,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: we filmed a season in COVID. What?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It was just insane. Yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: It's pretty miraculous. So how did you learn that you
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: were no longer coming back?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: The day they were supposed to announce me.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And they told you they were going to bring you back, right?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I spent $ 45, 000 and a month worth of negotiating contracts
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: with Bravo for months.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: You know, that show five seasons. What do you mean?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: What do you mean about that? I'm curious. Cause you
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: were like, you got to pay to play kind of
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: talk about that. Why did you spend?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to mention that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Um, but there is, I, there, I'm just saying that, uh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: they hired, uh, what's her name? The Burnett, um, Heather,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Heather Dubrow and her husband's on botched, you know, they're
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: produced by the same production team. Yeah. Um, it was, um,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: either me, the newbie, and she really wanted, really wanted
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: back on the show. You know, they need to be
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: more relevant with his business, stuff like that. And she's
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: great on camera.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: She's really controversial.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, and they have, they have
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: real money and, you know, like I do, we would
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: have been great on the show together because we both
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: have wealth and her husband's funny, you know, he's got
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: his own show. And so when they announced her and
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: fired me the same day, It was shocking.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: But I know she'd been telling them, you know, they
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: had to pick somebody to fire. And I was the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: easiest person to fire. Yeah.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Because they had to get rid of, you know, I mean, and.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I totally get it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: And I was disappointed to say the least because of
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: my investors, because we had a Vargas vodka deal where,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: you know, if the company took off, they get a percent.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: You know, there's there was a good negotiable term in
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: there because Bethany Frankel from Skinny Girl Vodka in New
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: York didn't have.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: A contract with Bravo.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: So they knew that if I was launching a vodka,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: they better get a contract because then that's revenue in
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: their pocket. So it was weird. Like I had to
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: go back to my investors and say, I just got fired.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Like there goes our marketing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: So it was, it was, it was difficult. And David
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: was in Mexico in a pool and having fun. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: think on his honeymoon, when he told me that day
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and I was, I'd already celebrated all weekend.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It was weird.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: And I didn't know they could just fire you like that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I had no idea. I had lawyers in New York
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: that drafted the contracts. I just assumed they took care
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: of me.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So you were not the only one they let go
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of though, that season. It was you and Kelly.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Kelly and Bronwyn.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, and Bronwyn too.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So what happened? What were your thoughts? What was life
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: going to be like after you had been this big
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: TV star?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Well, first off, I didn't feel like a star at all.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I got no press. I didn't even know what to expect.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't even get a post. I didn't get a nothing.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: So I didn't even experience any celebrity at all from
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: that show at first. Um, I just knew that they
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: had fired me along with Kelly, whose, you know, her
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: statement was COVID is, what did she say?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Something about fitting the herd. So I was categorized with
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: her and lesbian Bronwyn and getting fired. So I was
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a little like, what the fuck? This is awesome.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: And I'm like the child molested, you know, church cult chick.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, great.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Well, but that must have been hard, actually, because you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: really let yourself open up on that show, which you
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: were not a public figure before that. And that must
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: have been really difficult to let that come out, to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: talk openly about your divorce and your husband, you know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: allegedly cheating and having a mistress and blah, blah, blah.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And that must have been hard to then all of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a sudden be like, OK, well, we took all this information.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: And now we're done.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: And now we're done.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: for it?
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Do you mean.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Lift? Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage. No.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Don't deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Through a chance to have your own narrative later.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And I didn't get paid. I gave David 100% of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: my paycheck. Why? Because we had a five-year term. Oh,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: 100 year the first year, and then we had four
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: more years, so then we were going to... I had
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: a negotiable term with David as well. So I didn't
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: make a dime, not even a cent. In fact, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: spent money on the show because they.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: for no reason. Like I had to buy dresses and
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I had to pay for my own hair and makeup. Um,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: cause you know, during COVID their excuse was, well, we
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: can't pay. You're not allowed to have one. So if
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you want one secretly, you need to do that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: So it was a slap in the face that they
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: just took every piece of me, of my soul, of
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: my history, of my gut, of my family, of my ex-husband.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: And then just said, you know what? Fuck you. We're done. Thanks.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Piss off.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: That's, that's how I felt.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: And I exited gracefully because if the ratings aren't there,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: the money's not coming in, the sponsors aren't there, then
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: they need to figure out the formula.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: And apparently I wasn't in that formula. And that's fine.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I'm certainly glad they got rid of who they did
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: because now they have a chance to revamp it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And it's taken them a couple of years. And I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: think they're doing a really good job. They brought Tamara.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: They brought the crew back, which I really wanted to
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: work with. I wanted to work with Tamara and Vicki
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: and everybody, and I didn't even get to. I got
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: a crew that I was like, what is going on here?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Do you know them? Because you're a former, you've gotten
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a chance to meet them?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I knew Tamara from the beginning. I was buying
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: her CBD products, and they were great.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I couldn't sleep at night during my divorce. So Tamara
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: got me through my divorce with her CBD.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would buy it all the time. Um, yeah.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: So I'd write her and I'm like, dude, you're like
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: helping out with my divorce. I love you. I know
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you're on the show. Congratulations. Uh, whatever.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: And then, uh, Vicki, I use her insurance, uh, company
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Kodo for all my properties. So she's insured my desert property. Uh,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: she just got this one insured. I just, she's taking
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: care of this new estate here. She's potentially going to
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: be insuring my beach property and my Washington state property. So,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: you know, she's got a great, uh, team behind her.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Vicki does. She got a great company. People are making
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: fun of her. her team's on it. So whatever.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Well, that's, good to know. But that seems interesting that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you have sort of more friendships or acquaintances in a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: real way with people that are, you know, now on
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the show or the OGs more than you did when
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you were picked to be on the show randomly.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: So let's talk for a second before we get off
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: this topic about the reality reckoning thing that's going on
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: right now. You obviously went through this for, yeah, you
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: went through this for a year. Talk to me about
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: if you feel like this is valid. You know, if
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you feel like there was any sort of abuse going on,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: did you witness it? Did you go through it? I mean,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: we know what you went through as far as being
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: let go and not being able to tell your story
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: after you were very open. But what are your thoughts
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: about this whole thing?
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Um, it's very difficult to talk about this, uh, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I will say I.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Knew what I was getting into. I read the contract.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I knew the terms they own me and whatever happened
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: on that show they own. And there's nothing I could
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: do about it because of the preliminary terms of the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: agreement before I was filmed. So yes, I feel taken
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: advantage of.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I feel They could just fire you without any remorse
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: or recourse. I feel like a piece of shit. Like
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I was just like a piece of paper. They're like, okay,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: the script's over. But I knew what I was getting into.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: And it's always been that way where we are nobodies
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: to anybody.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: We are disposable. It's the worst possible place to be in.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: So whatever happens with that situation, for future reality stars
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: will probably benefit the reality stars in a good way.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Um, but when I was on there, I knew what
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I was getting into and I'm the era of the
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: old way.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: And when the new way comes about, then it'll be
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: a lot more people with stability.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: They're not going to get quite the crate.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: You're not going to get the crazies that you get
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: on that show when you have more contracts, that's for sure.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: But do you think that people are acting out and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: being crazy and doing all these things that they wouldn't
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: necessarily do because they think it'll get them a bigger
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: paycheck and it'll keep them on the show and they
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing? Or do you think that they're
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: being abused to act this way and it's not of
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: their own doing? Do you know what I mean? Like
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: some people are saying it's not their fault.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: It's just their own doing. They're alcoholics. They're drinking on
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: their own. They were already drinking. They love the fame. 100%.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, after I started getting recognized, I loved it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, this is cool.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about that. Cause you said at the
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: beginning that did not happen. So when did it happen
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and what was it like? How did it change your life?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I mean, I don't, I, it was crazy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I was in the, in London at a concert and I,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: at this hotel random that I got on bookings.com.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: And this woman's like, oh my God, she has an accent.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I can't say it, but you're, you're Elizabeth Vargas from
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: the Orange County housewives. I'm like, My brother and everybody
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: was sitting there and they're like, we're at Duran Duran concert.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, holy shit. We were in.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Scotland.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I got recognized everywhere, all over the airports. I was
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: in Iceland recognized. Everywhere I go, people are like, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: it's a great feeling. They're like, we love you. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you do? And I felt blessed. One woman
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: even came up to me.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's so cool because And she's like, my
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: daughter went through a similar situation that you did with
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: my ex-husband who had forced her to go to this situation.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: And I want you to know that you really helped
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: her get through a lot of steps that she needed
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: to really see when you had.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Opened up about that.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: And I was at my house on the boardwalk and
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: she started crying in front of me.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: And I said, here, just give me a hug. So
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I leaned over. I mean, I don't even know this
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: woman from Adam. And I gave her a hug.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: And she just started bawling because she was so happy
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: that they rewatched that episode.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: So for me, the fame wasn't, Oh my God, I'm famous.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: You know, hold on. It was very spiritual for me
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to cleanse and I'm very thrilled.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: So that's why I can't say anything bad about it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Cause as mad as I was, the positive is coming
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: out of it. And there's a lot of women being
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: helped for me, but as far as those women are,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: They're already like that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: They're not being forced. They're drinking on their own. I
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: didn't drink. They asked me to drink. I didn't drink. Yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I think it is interesting that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: people are claiming that they were forced to do things
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: or put in a bad circumstance. And, You know, it's
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: an odd thing to not say, but I'm my own person.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I have my own free will. If I don't want
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to do something, I'm not going to, no matter what
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I'm being paid. And unfortunately, a lot of the news
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: is people commenting on things they don't really know about.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: So we will see how all of that plays out, right?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Well, also, I can speak on that a little bit.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: So when you are on set, the producers do egg
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you on like, oh, so-and-so said this. Did you know that?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: You're kind of like, what? When? Well, she's confirming this
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: on another scene over there. And you're like, huh? And
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you get angry. And then they're like, yeah, you guys
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: need to go to the bar. They don't say, here,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: drink this, get wasted and be stupid and go borrow
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: your Spanx between your thighs. You know, I mean, that's,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you know, Vicky and Tamara, you gas those two. That
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: was their own free will. All their craziness.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So life since Real Housewives of Orange County, you had
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: to start over. You were ending your marriage still, right?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: You were getting out of that. A lot of people
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: think you were given a lot of money. He was
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a billionaire. How did you move on? How did you
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: decide that you were going to make it on your own?
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: This is the big misconception.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Once you get divorced and you're awarded a specific amount
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: via a court order, which we ended up settling out
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: of court primarily. And then we ended our divorce with
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: the mediator. So there was some on the divorce papers,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: but mainly it was outside of the divorce. It was
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: an agreement between us for stock options and things like that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: But once you finalize, they still can fight. Then you
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: gotta have to get a collection lawyer to collect. So
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: it's like child support. You know, you can win child support,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: but if they don't.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Pay, they don't pay.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: So I was awarded stock options, a significant amount for
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: American Seafoods. And he did what he did so that
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: I couldn't have him transferred to my name illegally. So
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I had to then acquire a lawyer, which I still
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: have a lawyer. We're going through the process of trying
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: to get what is owed to me, and I have
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: not gotten a dime yet. He does deposit like a $ 5, 000 deposit.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Into my account. Like on occasion, five grand. I'm always laughing.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Everyone's like, God, you're so rich. You must be nice
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to have X, have his money. I'm like, would you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: like to see the bank account that he is supposed
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: to be depositing into? So I ended up.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Knowing that it was going to be a process to
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: collect from him. And I said, okay, um, In my divorce,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I lived in a 350 square foot apartment and rented
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: my beach house to pay my lawyer fees. I rented
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: it out for $ 2, 700 to $ 4, 000 a day and lived
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: in that beach house, 350 square foot for a full.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Year during the housewives. No way. I did interviews and
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Brahman made fun of me. Oh, she's not rich. She
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: lives in it. I'm like, yeah, it's a 300.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I had all my clothes and my dog and a
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: 350 square foot down the street. I checked in 45
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: people in my beach house, VIPs. I have 45 five stars.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I rented it out and realized I can make buku
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: bucks on this house. I showed the judge that I'm
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: capable of making my own money from that house. The
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: judge awarded me the house because I paid most of
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the payment, almost all the payments.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: He didn't pay any of them.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: So the judge awarded me the beach house. So then
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit, this is how I got
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: into real estate. I was like, I kept living in
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: that apartment even after my divorce and renting my beach
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: house because that was just 2,700, 4,000 a day. I mean,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: think about it, your account. And then I didn't have
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: to give it to my lawyers.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God, this is great. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: don't care if I'm sweating and there's no central air.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Was it hard to find people to rent it or
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: there was.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: A- 10% on top for short-term rental on top of
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: 10% to VRBO. So that's 20%. And then I had
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: a private chef, private drivers.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: I hosted, I even cleaned the whole place myself because
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I had maids.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: for it?
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: It's Dune ADL.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Do you mean?
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Lift, please.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: You're going past Kimmage?
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, Kimmage.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: Done Deal Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I gave him robes and I gave the women eye masks. And,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I know VIP.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: My ex-husband was wealthy. We stayed in, you know, five-star
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: resorts worldwide. I knew what wealthy people wanted. All my
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: guests flew in in private jets and I.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Had a service go pick them up. White glove the
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: whole way. So it was awesome.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: I had celebrities stay there, wealthy, you know, Madison Club,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Discovery Land Company people staying there.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Everybody stayed there.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: It was awesome. And then I finally, you know, made
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: enough money where I got an investor, bought another property.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I started buying properties and also using my own money
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: and then paying the investors back for those properties, being
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: able to rent short term.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: And now I've created this real estate empire that's insane.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Worth over $ 30 million on my own. I was like,
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: how did I do this? And people think I'm lying.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: And then they look up all the titles. They're like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: she's not bullshitting.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And so I'm very proud of my real estate. but
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: it just happened, uh, that I just worked my ass
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: off and just, wow. Yeah.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: And I mean, you just have such an entrepreneurial spirit
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: behind you, obviously. So how did you come up with
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: the idea for your vodka line?
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Um, well, I got divorced and the tech company got
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: shut down. And in the interim of doing the real
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: estate that was getting me by, I could still maintain
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: a living lifestyle without money from my ex. Um, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: wanted a product that was not tech, that was very simplified.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: And I thought it was COVID. And I said, well,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: what are, what is people doing? They're getting hammered. And
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: so I launched a vodka. I pitched John Paul DeGioia,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: the founder of Patron Tequila. And he, he said yes.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: And it took us a year to find the formula.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: We launched during COVID on 12, 2020, 2020.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: And we went viral. We're a 9,000 locations, almost 12 States.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: We're in 11 States, almost 12 and six countries.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm always curious. How do you come up with
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a new vodka line? You, you just, you put all
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the mixtures together to make it taste different. Like what
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: did you do for it?
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: You have to have a formulator. So you obviously have
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: a vodka formulator. You have to have your own distillery.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: So you can't utilize the third party distillery.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: So John Paul built me a distillery. He's found a
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Patron tequila. He knows alcohol. He doesn't know vodka. Didn't,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: never drinks vodka, but he, you know, he said, why
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: are you a pro at this? And I said, I
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: drink a lot of it.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: That makes you a pro.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: And then when we found a formula, I picked the
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: most expensive vodka to distill seven times.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: One of the most expensive. So he knew that I
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: knew vodka. He knew that I had quality. And he's like, yes,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I'll do it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: So built me a distillery, started distilling the vodka here
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: in Northern California.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: We moved the distillery recently to Modesto. Um, you know, uh,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: found the formula beautifully clean, seven times distilled. You know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: you have to have specific ingredients and the way they
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: distill it.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Um, you know, you can't give away your secrets, but, uh,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: John Paul's very, very, very keen on how to distill
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: alcohol properly. And luckily his distiller is top notch. Um,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: we have nothing but positive results from the vodka. People
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: rarely get hangovers cause we have clean corn. The farms
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: that we get the corn from are very organic. You're
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: not going to get that. Like with potato, you get chemicals.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Farmers have chemicals.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: They have pesticides and everything.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: So how do you get a clean potato? How do
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: you get clean corn without all the pesticides? You've got
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to really work hard and spend a lot of money
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: not to get pesticides on that corn or potato because
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: that pesticide is going to go into your formula.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: So you're going to get a hangover because you're going
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: to have all these chemicals no matter what. how gluten-free
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: it is, you're still going to have pesticides in that vodka.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: So we are extremely clean. We're very proud of it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And it's very difficult and very expensive to make.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: We are the same price as Chopin, but because it
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: was COVID, we decided to launch at Tito's prices.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: And we're killing it. So.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was going to ask you what your price,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: what your price point is. So where, where could people
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: get it right now?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: BevMo, High Times, Total Wine, anywhere online. And you just
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Google Vargas vodka. Um, Your local grocery store, your local
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: liquor store. We're at 4,000 locations in California alone.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Obviously, California is our hometown. We're in New York, Florida, Texas.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to look for it today. I'm excited.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I'll send you. Well, can I send you? Where are
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: you located exactly?
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: In Palm Beach.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: You should. Okay.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Do we have it here?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: You have it there. So I'll find out where.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: OK, I'm going to look for it and then I'll
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: tell you how hard it was for me to find it,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: because I think you would be interested to know, like
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: if it's readily available for people. Do you know what
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Like, absolutely. Well, it's not because we just launched. Oh, yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: 24 months is not very long, but we're doing.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's amazing. It's amazing. So but so you did
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: not have that during the season when you were on
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the show, right?
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: No, but I launched it on the show.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Got it. Okay.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: At my house on the beach, I made it. Smart.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: So, but that's what they say that everyone needs to
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: have a product to launch or to talk about. If
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: you're going to be on the show, do you feel
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: like that's true? Like, did that help you just at
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: least launch being able to launch it there?
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Me being able to stomach being an idiot on a show.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, there's an end goal here.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Um, Yeah. I really think you need a product.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: And if you go into it just wanting to be
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: famous and then you're going to bitch when they fire you,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to say.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's so smart because it gives you something
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: to do after the fact and be relevant. I mean,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: you can have a project now. Talk to me also,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you talked earlier about your love of animals, growing up
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: with animals around you. Is that what made you get
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: involved with what you do with animals now?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: We Care Rescue Ranch is my nonprofit, 501c3. Robin White,
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: bless her heart, helped me found it. I decided to
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: start a rescue for animals because in life, I think
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: the only thing that I had were animals that I
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: could communicate with and relate to. They didn't care what
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I looked like. They didn't care that I had a
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: childhood trauma. Dogs never judged me when I came home.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: If I had a hard day, they'd just love you.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: They'd cuddle. Uh, they're there for you. They're smiling. I
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: have a Husky now. Koda. Um, you know, dogs are
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: just animals are just kind in general and we need
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to be kind to them. So I.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I decided that a dollar of every one of my
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: bottles is going to go to my 501c3.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. That is amazing. I have two
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: dogs myself.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a terrible marketer. I didn't bring any vodka or
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: anything today.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: We'll put pictures up of it. Don't worry.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I'm such a terrible buyer. Today was just.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: But I have two dogs myself. I've always had two
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: or three dogs. I rescued one recently. She's a half
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Siberian Husky, half Pitbull, which are the most misunderstood breed
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: in my opinion.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Siberian Husky Pitbull? I have to see this dog.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I'll send you a picture after. She's just, I love
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: her so much. She gets in so much trouble. She's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: cost me a ton of money with trainers. I can't
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: even walk her down the street. She's so strong. I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: have to get someone to come every night and walk her.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I have two acres in my backyard. So she lives
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: like in a jungle back there, loves it. But She's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: living the life. But she was really abused before I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: got her. And we saved her from animal control in Manhattan. And,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I if I could take in every animal,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I would. I am an animal person. I love animals
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: more than I love people. And yeah, I get them more.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And they're they it just it's so interesting to me
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: because so many animals are um, you know, just left
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: on the street, people just get rid of them. They
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: are bad to them. And just with a little love, these,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: these animals, dogs, cats, whatever they are, will completely change
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and forgive. And, um, all they need is someone to
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: give them a chance. And it just always breaks my
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: heart when people, um, are cruel to animals. It's like
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the worst.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: So, well, I think that your passion for animals is, is, uh,
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: it's validated through understanding that these animals do forgive quickly.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Like you have a, we have a passion for them
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: because they are unconditional love. Like we don't get that
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: with a human.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: You, you have, you don't. And so the only thing
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you do get, which is closest to a human is
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: an animal as a dog or a cat or whatever,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: not even a cat actually cats eat you. If you die,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: the dog will die with you.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: But, but, um, and so, so like, you know, animals, uh,
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: We had a program called SNPOC, which we'll revamp eventually. But,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: you know, population control, not Bill Gates' style, but population
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: control for animals, which is snipping them, you know, making
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: sure to span neuter them. It's really, really important, but
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: it's not affordable. So creating that affordability so that there's
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: not that overpopulation. Idaho did the SNP program.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: They don't have overpopulation. They have no homeless dogs or cats. Wow. Hello.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: If this can be done in certain areas, it can
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: be done all over the country. So that's incredible. Like
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: in that way in 10 years, let's say we started
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: right now. We launched a national SNF program where everything
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: was free.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Everybody could bring in their dogs and cats or strays
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: were all sniffed and whatever.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: In 10 years.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't even probably have homeless animals if we could do that.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: It's that easy, but it's just not, you know. Wow.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I love your passion for animals. Obviously we share that.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: So just quickly, I want to get into what, how
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: is your dating life? I know that I want to
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: clear something up because I think the press got it
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: wrong when they said one of your former lovers is
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: now incarcerated for six years. Um, you did have an
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: incident with a man, but he was not your boyfriend, correct?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I tried to sleep with him, but he was
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: too hot. He couldn't get it up. At one point
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I did, but I love your honesty. There's the boy
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: toys in your life and then there's the boyfriends and
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: they're completely different categories. Yeah, I had hired a sales
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: rep for Vargas Vodka in Santa Monica. I met him
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: in Santa Monica.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Turned out he was a stalker to a lot of
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: really wealthy women and had a group of extortionist people
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: that just did this for a living. And I was
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: a target and I ended up realizing later on down
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: the road that he was a felon. So I told
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: him he couldn't sell Vargas Vodka. This is before I
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: even started. Like he came to Newport. And then we
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: got wasted one night.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really cute. I like, I used
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: to like really young after him. I do not like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: young guys.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: In fact, my Albanian six foot four right now is.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: The hottest mofo I've ever met. And we're sticking to him,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: but you know, this Ryan guy, you know, we, we,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I showed him all the bars we were in, showed
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: him the brand. Didn't sell one bottle of vodka.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: And then, and then I finally said, well, You know,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: I would do a background check, but my assistant had
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: passed away from COVID in January.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: So I didn't do that. I didn't do a background
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: check on him.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, and it turned out to be the worst
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: decision of my life. I always do background checks, but
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: I was in a moment where she had passed away
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: and she always does the background checks.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it turns out he had just gotten out of
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: prison for extortion. And I didn't know this.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: How did you find him to begin with? He contacted you?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: He found me. I was at the bungalow in Santa Monica,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: the super high end place. They were all wearing suits.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: My girlfriend was single. I went with her after filming
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: my new show, The Success of Unusual People. He starts
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: saying hi to me. And I went to the bartender
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: to see if he knew of.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Any sales reps because I'm always hustling. Well, he overheard
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: me and he's like, oh, I'm a sales rep. I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: used to sell alcohol. Maybe I could help you. Bam.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: But it turns out he was a drug. Gotcha.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Drug salesman, drug dealer. And later I found out an
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: extortionist and a felon. And I had fired it. So
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: I fired him and I said, look, you can't didn't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: fire him, but I just didn't really fully bring him on.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: And then as soon as I let him go after
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: finding out he was a felon, he had just got
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: out of prison.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: He went postal. That's when he started.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Whipping out his guns and saying, fuck you, fuck you,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: fuck you. And then all of a sudden the guns
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: to my head, threatening, needing money. I mean, oh my God,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: it became a disaster. And I, he threatened to call
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: my ex, said he had naked pictures of me that night.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: We did a tasting and I went to bed upstairs.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: I let him stay in my house in Newport. I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: have two bedrooms. He claimed he came in and took
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: all these naked photos of me. Like he had drugged
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: me and I was out. I didn't know if that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: was true or not. I woke up just fine. He
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: was in the other room. I would never have thought.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: He's like, you remember that day? So then he's like,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going to tell your ex-husband and I'm going to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: tell your partner who you really are.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to show him these photos.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Well, he was very smart not to text that, but
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: verbalized it continuously. Did text a little bit about it.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: So I did show the police that and he was convicted.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: But it was a disaster.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: So for a full three weeks, I was being held
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: by against my will to pay bills and money for
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: him and shit. And he wanted my company car and said,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: I bought it for him. And Oh my God, it
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: was a disaster.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: And then three weeks.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. I couldn't believe I got into this situation.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: He's like, if you tell anybody what's going on.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to do this and this and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: this and this. And I don't really want to get
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  Speaker 2: into it. I get anxiety. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's nice.
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  Speaker 1: But luckily for you, so you ended up having cameras
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: in your house, right? Is that how you got the footage?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: When he started putting guns to my head, I was,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: I was gonna, I was gonna actually hit him with
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: this shovel with a sharp knife side. But I realized
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: if I killed him in my house, my real estate
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: would be, would go down. So I thought I will
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: wait till I'm somewhere else. But then I thought, well,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: I don't want to have murder on my record. So
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: I just thought, okay, you know, what do I do here?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I put cameras up and I knew he wouldn't kill
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: me because I was his money. And I called my advisor.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: He said he was, well, the one day that this
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: all went down, I didn't call the police. My wealth
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: advisor did because money was going out.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: And Alan Schreiber from TSG Wealth Management, I said, look,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: I got some wires that need to go out today.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I need to do these wires. I need to show
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: these people that the wires are going through today. And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give him my car. I'm going to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: give him everything.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: He goes, what's going on?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: I finally just broke down and told him I was
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: being extorted and they're coming over with guns and they're taking.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: My shit and I got to wire some money. He's like,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: it is my fiduciary duty to send over somebody to
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: take a statement. I'm like, you can't do that. They're
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: coming over right now. So he sent over the police.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I just told him what was happening.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: I finally showed him the bullet holes and I showed
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: him all the threats on my voicemails and the death
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: threats and everything to the police. And I said, look,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: can you get him not at my house, get him
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: somewhere else? He's coming right now. Little did I know
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: that they said, no problem, Elizabeth, we'll get him later.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: Little did I know they were assembling a massive SWAT
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: team and pulled up his records and knew he was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: a bad, bad person.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Luckily for you.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they were going to take me by gunpoint
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: to the warehouse and get the gun or get the car.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: And I was, I was beside myself. Didn't even know
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: how there was dog shit everywhere on my house. I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: couldn't even leave my house. Like I, I couldn't walk
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: my dog. I was sleeping in my house for days,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: not knowing what to do.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: It was horrible, horrible. All right.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Well, he's been sentenced to six years, so we don't
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: have to worry about him for a little bit, but
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: that's six years.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Um, okay.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Talk to me really quickly about your show. You are doing, um,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: an amazing show. Has it found a home or are
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you shooting for where?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Discovery channel, but discovery is going through a big change and.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: I can't launch the show at John Paul DeGioia, success
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: of unusual people showcasing really wealthy people coming from nothing,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: creating something and then giving back.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, so I have all these.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Wealthy individuals lined up to interview, like John Paul DeGioia,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: those type. But we filmed the first hour show.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: It's a docuseries. And then we're supposed to be launching
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: it on Discovery, but Discovery is doing such a change
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: that we can't do anything. So it's been on hold
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: for over a year now. Once it does launch, it's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: going to be a great show to help showcase how
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: to create something out of nothing and give back.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: The concept is so great. So I think it'll be terrific.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Last question for you then would be, what do you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: think is the most misunderstood thing about you that you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: want to clear up?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: The most misunderstood is I am self-made. I think that
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: the decisions that I've made in my life to be
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: where I'm at today are decisions based on truth, honesty,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: and the.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: The goal of personal financial and mental freedom. Um, people
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: tend to think that, uh, you know, I married a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: wealthy guy and, you know, you, you know, and you
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: got a bunch of money from him and good job,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: you divorced well, but I really had that journey to learn.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed that journey. I didn't marry him
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: to take his money.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, that's why I haven't really pursued
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: it that hard.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I knew I could do it on my own. Now
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: I had the tools, uh, And the misconception is I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: didn't suck dick. Just kidding. And I also didn't suck
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: at life. Winning.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That's hysterical. Well, but I think that's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: a good point though, because a lot of women, first
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: of all, as you and I both know, there's nothing
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: better than having your own financial freedom. If your finances
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: are tied to someone else and to someone else approving
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: of you and you being under their spell, their vision,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, it is going to be the most
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: miserable life. When you can make your own money, make
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: your own decisions, have your own things, you have freedom
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: and you have the ability to be happy if you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: want to. So- I definitely commend that about you. And
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I do think that people probably think that because your
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: ex was as rich as he is, that's what you're
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: living off of. You don't do anything on your own.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: You haven't come up with ideas and are a hard worker.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: But I think it's obvious that since childhood, you are
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: a hustler, not in a bad way. I am too.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Like I like, no matter what you have, you probably
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: like to work. You like to have a project and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I think it makes you feel fulfilled. So, and I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: think that's very obvious from speaking to you. So I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: enjoy the fact that, you know, I get to speak
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: to you like this and can easily see who you are.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Whereas on a show where they have you for, you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: episode after episode, they can really create you to look
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: a certain way. And it's just smoke and mirrors. It's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: not really who, um, you are. So where can people
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: find you now? What, um, what can we expect from
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you in the future?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Uh, Elizabeth Lynn Vargas on Instagram.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Um, uh, hopefully discovery channel for success of unusual people.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: And you never know, I might be doing another season
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: of the housewives. So we'll, we, uh, okay.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: So reality TV is not off the table for you.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: You know, it was for a while, but I want
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: to go back and have fun.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: I want it to be a season of fun with
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: these ladies. Because now that I've gotten that negativity out
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: and like all that junk out of my trunk, now
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I can just be like, okay, where's my space? Give
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: me some tequila.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: But also you're in a different place, right? You're like
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: not in this sad place where you're... going through a
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: divorce and all this stuff, like you're owning it. You're
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: really owning it. So I think you can have.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Fun and meet people and mingle and be fun with
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the camera before you're like mask and go up and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: you're like, what do I, so I really want to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: go back on. I hope they let me one day.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: There's been some, you know, discussions and figuring out how
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: everything would work, but I don't have any hangups.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: So you never know. And I love the fans. They're
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: all crazy. I'm sure your fans are crazy too.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: The Bravo fans are the biggest crazy fans ever. I mean,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect. And, you know, I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: will just tell you quickly, there was once a rumor
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: that I was in talks to do the Housewives and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, in page six, which then went everywhere.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much free stuff I got
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: in my mailbox and in my DMs, people offering to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: do things. And I'm like, thinking to myself and saying
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: to my friends, that is a total rumor. Like, I
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: don't even know why people are, and imagine if I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: got on the show, like how I would be treated,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: like that's unbelievable. So I know how it must feel,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you know, being on a show like that and being
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: so revered. People think you are, Angelina Jolie. It's like,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: who's that anymore? You guys are the stars, right?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: I got free banana bread for life. I got like
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: shit cootery boards or shoot cooteries, whatever they call them.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: The important things.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so lovely. You know, I got some
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: party planners and I mean, you name it. They're like everywhere.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Right. Oh my God.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: That's so funny.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Well, we wish you the best of luck. We hope
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: to see you again on something. Good luck with your show.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I hope that that does really well. It's such a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: great brand. And I'm going to try your vodka later tonight.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Yes. Vargas Vodka and at Elizabeth Lynn Vargas on Instagram.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 1:11:47
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• 1:11:50
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• 1:12:13
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• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: for it?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Do you mean.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundial Cars.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Lift?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: Dundial Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.