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The Vikings Tailgate: Dan Soder & His Friendship With Coach Mike McDaniel | SF | Episode 25 · The Vikings Tailgate

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of The Tailgate presented
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  Speaker 1: by Continental Diamond. My old friend Dan Soder. You might
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  Speaker 1: know him from his endless amount of comedy specials. You
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  Speaker 1: might know him from the Showtime show Billions. You may
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  Speaker 1: know him as the voice of the NFL's Top one
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  Speaker 1: hundred plays on NFL Network. Diehard Niners fan, also childhood
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  Speaker 1: friend of Mike McDaniel. This is a really fun episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys are gonna love it. Please give
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it. Everybody Condo, Tom Data.
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  Speaker 2: Go, We gotta go.
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  Speaker 1: Thank go time joining me on today's program. This is
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  Speaker 1: a fun one. You know, well, you don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you're listening. I was about to say, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: you do comedy festivals, But what a stupid thing to
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  Speaker 1: say to people who aren't comedians. When you do comedy
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  Speaker 1: festivals as a comedian, you get a chance to see
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  Speaker 1: people you haven't seen in one hundred years, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it turns into this unique bond, Like that's how I
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  Speaker 1: feel on this show. It's Dan Soder. Yeah, every time
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  Speaker 1: I see you, I get so excited. Yeah, almost like
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  Speaker 1: I want to wrap my arms around you and not
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  Speaker 1: let you leave. So this I don't know how this
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  Speaker 1: episode's gonna go, but it's nice to see you. Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna go the distance, and it's great seeing you
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  Speaker 2: because it is comedy becomes adult summer camp, so your
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  Speaker 2: friends you only see at summer camp. You know, comics
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  Speaker 2: are on the road every weekend, but in different cities.
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  Speaker 2: So when you are when you happen to be in
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  Speaker 2: a city with another comic that you're friends with, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: And then the second thing is comedy festivals, where you're like,
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  Speaker 2: we have so much to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of times you just picked back up
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  Speaker 2: from when you saw each other last. So when you
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  Speaker 2: reached out to me and you were like, hey, do
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  Speaker 2: you want to come talk about the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 2: which A I always do and B you're like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: come on my podcast, I was like, one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: I would love to do that. A meeting of two worlds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and our main goal here, like I will do
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  Speaker 1: my best not to unravel this thing into a two
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  Speaker 1: hour you know, mutual ted talk. Let's start. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: Niners here, because you are you're a die hard, lifelong
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  Speaker 1: Niners fan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, first piece of clothing I was put in was
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  Speaker 2: a forty nine Ers onesie.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just that's my question because you grew up
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  Speaker 1: in Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was born in Hartford. My dad, my parents,
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  Speaker 2: my dad specifically is from the Bay Area. My mom
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  Speaker 2: is from Fresno. They met in San Francisco and were
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  Speaker 2: married there and lived there for years. And then my
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  Speaker 2: mom worked for ETNA and she got transferred to Hartford,
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  Speaker 2: Connecticut because that's where their home office is. That's where
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  Speaker 2: I was born. And then my mom got her her
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  Speaker 2: whole family is from originally from Colorado, and she's an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to go be transferred to Denver and she was like, oh, Dan,
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  Speaker 2: I'll have cousins and stuff like that around. So we
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  Speaker 2: moved to Denver when I was five, but I was
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  Speaker 2: locked in as a forty nine Ers fan. There was
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  Speaker 2: like I was born in eighty three, so I missed
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  Speaker 2: the eighty one Super Bowl. But I you know, you're
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  Speaker 2: born in the eighties to the forty nine ers, you're
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  Speaker 2: a forty nine Er fan. There's just yeah, And then
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  Speaker 2: it went through. You know, I was always a forty
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  Speaker 2: nine Ers fan. But the thing that really makes it
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  Speaker 2: set in stone is and you know this, and every
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  Speaker 2: NFL team fan knows this, except maybe a young Patriots fan.
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  Speaker 2: The lean years are what make you a diehard fan,
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  Speaker 2: the least years where you know, after Eddie de Barbolo
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  Speaker 2: Junior had to sell the team to the York family,
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  Speaker 2: his sister and her husband.
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  Speaker 1: Pause right there, Let's take a moment and do something
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  Speaker 1: that I never get to do with anyone. Let's and
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  Speaker 1: I know there's some stuff at the end there that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't need to like get it. But
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  Speaker 1: like Eddie de Bartolo Junior is the pre eminent example
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  Speaker 1: of good. Like the way that guy he introduced giving
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  Speaker 1: players their own rooms, like all that, Like the way
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  Speaker 1: he treated players.
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  Speaker 2: I could argue greatest stoner in the history of the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: He I yeah, he bought the team. He's from Youngstown, Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Bought the team for a million dollars from his dad,
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  Speaker 2: and then that was nineteen seventy eight. I believe he
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  Speaker 2: bought the team nineteen seventy nine. He brings in Bill Walsh,
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  Speaker 2: they draft Joe Montana. By nineteen eighty one, their Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl champions, and then they go on a run until
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  Speaker 2: he honestly he sold the team, I believe in Like
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  Speaker 2: I might be wrong about the actual year, but it
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  Speaker 2: was around two three and the forty nine ers were
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  Speaker 2: winning a division every year, almost every year, and almost
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  Speaker 2: every year in the NFC Championship game. So it was
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  Speaker 2: a question of you know, you go from Bill Walsh
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  Speaker 2: to George Seffert, you stay good. But then you go
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  Speaker 2: George Seffert to Mooch to Steve Mariucci and you stay good.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's that's ownership. That's just keeping a culture.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing that I love about Adea Bartolow Junior,
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  Speaker 2: every single player, I think it's every single player from
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  Speaker 2: his tenure as owner that's became a Hall of Famer,
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  Speaker 2: has had him and duck them into the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: That's nuts.
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  Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing. And what a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: don't know is, and I'm not saying it was his
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  Speaker 1: personal Yoda, but when Robert Kraft was buying the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: He went to Di Bartolow and was like, like, so
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  Speaker 1: this this way of treating players, like to Bartolo, the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, standing in the hallway, greeting the players after
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  Speaker 1: the game, knowing their families, spending this different sort of time,
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  Speaker 1: I think makes you want to play for him exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And he just built this culture. But it's interesting that
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  Speaker 1: you grew up like you were real little when they
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  Speaker 1: were on that amazing run. So you probably have a
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  Speaker 1: couple memories. Yeah, But then like there's that core moment
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  Speaker 1: of sports fandom, you know, like thirteen to eighteen where
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  Speaker 1: the world is different.
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  Speaker 2: But again still fine. Forty nine Ers wonted. The last
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  Speaker 2: time the forty nine Ers won in Super Bowl, I
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  Speaker 2: was eleven. It was nineteen ninety four in Okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was the seventy fifth anniversary season. We beat the
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  Speaker 2: Chargers in the Super Bowl, and then the next year
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  Speaker 2: NFC Championship lose to the Cowboys in ninety five, and
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  Speaker 2: then we go through the Green Bay Brett Farv the
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  Speaker 2: early Brett fav years, which you guys saw them turn around.
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  Speaker 2: When Holmgren, again a former forty nine Er guy, goes
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  Speaker 2: Coast yep and turns the West Coast offense with Brett Farvre.
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  Speaker 2: So then I hate the Packers from ninety six to
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine, but we get the we get the taroll
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  Speaker 2: Owens catch, we get like you know, there's still moments.
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  Speaker 2: The last great moment I remember of the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: Ers being like the old like when they were running
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  Speaker 2: on fumes of gas, which a lot of people don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: This was in the playoffs. The forty nine Ers came
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  Speaker 2: back with Jeff Garcia against the New York Giants. We
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  Speaker 2: were down like seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the taroll Owens crying moment?
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  Speaker 2: No, that was the Packers. That was that was That
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  Speaker 2: was the Packers. Yeah, okay, that was a wild card
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  Speaker 2: game against the Packers in ninety eight. That was still
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  Speaker 2: Steve Young. But later turn of the century, Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's two. The forty might be one. Two. The
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  Speaker 2: forty nine Ers beat the Giants on this massive comeback
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  Speaker 2: win in the playoffs, and then that was it. We
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  Speaker 2: lost to somebody, and then it was like, I think
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  Speaker 2: we lost to the Rams. Were the greatest show on turf.
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  Speaker 2: And then it got real dark, and then it got
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  Speaker 2: real bad. It got I got it got.
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  Speaker 1: Real, but not for that long all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: That I disagree. I disagree. Your eight years is a
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  Speaker 2: long time.
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  Speaker 1: Stop, dude, I will not do this with you. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I will not do this with you.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the analogy I always make growing up a forty
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  Speaker 2: nine Ers fan in the eighties and nineties foot NFL wise,
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  Speaker 2: I grew up riches and then we found out my
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  Speaker 2: dad had been a part of a Ponzi scheme, and
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  Speaker 2: we lost everything for eight years. I mean we lost everything,
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  Speaker 2: We lost the house, we had to go live with family.
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  Speaker 2: And then you get this like business idea that your
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  Speaker 2: dad invests in that gets you money again, and you
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  Speaker 2: got horriball and you've got three seasons of going. You
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  Speaker 2: go to a super Bowl, you go to three NFC
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  Speaker 2: Championship games, and you're like, we're back on top, baby,
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  Speaker 2: and then you find out that was a Ponzi scheme,
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  Speaker 2: and then you lose it for three more years and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, what's going on? And then Kyle Shanahan was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna put your family, you know, And
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  Speaker 2: then now we're back in the mix where you're kind
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  Speaker 2: of like you don't trust the wealth but it's nice
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  Speaker 2: to be back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it must be really hard to have
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  Speaker 1: been rich a bunch of different times. Right, thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized I'm talking to a Vikings fan after
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  Speaker 2: you guys went ow and four in the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties and they haven't been back since.
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  Speaker 2: If the forty nine Ers win a Super Bowl this year,
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  Speaker 2: it will be one of those things where I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I am I can rest. Yeah, I would cheer for
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings. I'll tell you the four teams I would
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  Speaker 2: cheer for, which surprisingly they just beat us. I would
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  Speaker 2: cheer for the Browns. Sure, I would cheer for the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Sure I would cheer for the Lions. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna cheer for him regardless of the Miami Dolphins,
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  Speaker 2: because of Mike McDaniel.
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  Speaker 1: I can't budge off of how I'm feeling watching you
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  Speaker 1: describe your hardship, and it's interesting. But you're right, But
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  Speaker 1: it's like to watch one of the things. When I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about this episode, I wanted to I had
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  Speaker 1: written down. I was like, I should ask him how
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  Speaker 1: great it feels to have Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch.
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  Speaker 1: But just then listening to you say that, I want
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  Speaker 1: to set your apartment on fire. So but it is,
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  Speaker 1: it is wild you there's those rare moments. I felt it.
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  Speaker 1: In ninety eight, Oh my.
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  Speaker 2: God, your guys's team was the best team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And you know I told you about growing up in Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: My uncle, my dad's half brother, had Bronco season tickets
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  Speaker 2: and he had no one to go with. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: a massive NFL fan, so I would go to these
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  Speaker 2: Bronco games and it kind of got me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit for a while to be like, oh, I like
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos. It's fun watching John Elway. And then when
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  Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan came over from the Niners he was ro
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  Speaker 2: coordinator and left after that Super Bowl and came to
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos, I had more of an ind of like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: go Broncos. But I was at the nineteen ninety eight
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  Speaker 2: AFC Championship game my uncle, and I'll tell you right now,
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  Speaker 2: when you guys lost to the Falcons, there was a
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  Speaker 2: and I mean this in anyone that was at Mile
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  Speaker 2: High Stadium will tell you this. There was a collective
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  Speaker 2: sigh of like, okay, if the if the Broncos win today,
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  Speaker 2: they'll win the Super Bowl. Like there was that like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: if everyone knew in Mile High Stadium that the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: were the best team in the NFL. The nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 2: eight Vikings were the best team that year.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like right now your your team is
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  Speaker 1: living in one of those moments I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: put I don't know where your superstitions lie. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to put a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean recently, it's yeah, it's been so hard. Last
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  Speaker 2: season's NFC Championship game was so heartbreaking that you're like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if superstitions are real anymore. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's just like I'm like a war torn guy where
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, bring it whatever brother is.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't believe I'm gonna give this
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  Speaker 1: to you, but I believe it in my heart it
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  Speaker 1: will be. If you guys do win the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: this year, that journey not for all of them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: investing in you, my friend, who I care about. Sure
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  Speaker 1: that that personal journey of eleven years old when we
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  Speaker 1: won our last one and then getting too experience because
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  Speaker 1: I think every sports fan I know, oh, it's not possible.
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  Speaker 1: The world isn't magic. I think every die hard sports
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  Speaker 1: fan should get to experience their team winning a title
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  Speaker 1: when they're in their youth and a title when they're
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  Speaker 1: an adult. That would be sports world perfection to experience that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you gotta understand. When I moved to Denver, there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot going on my family. My dad ended
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  Speaker 2: up moving back to San Francisco. My mom raised me
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  Speaker 2: in Denver. When I was ten years old, I made
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  Speaker 2: the choice to become a Denver Nuggets fan. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what. The Golden State Warriors were our team
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  Speaker 2: I did. They traded away Tim Hardaway. I didn't like that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't run. I didn't like run. Tmcbing broken up,
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  Speaker 2: so I was like, you know what, I love the
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  Speaker 2: new They just switched the logo of the Nuggets to
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  Speaker 2: the Mountain. Yes, we had Matumbo, we had Lafonzo Ellis.
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  Speaker 2: There was like a lot of people and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to choose the Denver Nuggets because I don't
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  Speaker 2: have any other Denver teams. I didn't like the Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the same division as the San Francisco Giants,
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm love the Nuggets one of
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  Speaker 2: the most painful decisions I've made, because then I watched
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets be mid and terrible for so many years,
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  Speaker 2: and then I watched the Warriors explode. And you have
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  Speaker 2: to understand my dad's family. My grandmother specifically stayed a
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  Speaker 2: Warriors fan. Everyone loved the Dubs. You would be in
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  Speaker 2: the Bay Area and everyone's like, oh, the Warriors, They're unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: They're never gonna lose, and they would always kind of
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  Speaker 2: beat up on the Nuggets, and I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: But the Nuggets winning the championship this year felt so
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  Speaker 2: surreal because you were like, I never thought it was
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen. That being said, I do believe if the
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  Speaker 2: forty nine ers won the Super Bowl, I would become
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  Speaker 2: very emotional. I think I think that would I I
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  Speaker 2: was happy when the Nuggets won. I do believe when
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  Speaker 2: you have your team, like your team, you can have
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  Speaker 2: several teams in a city you like, but you always
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  Speaker 2: have one that you're like, it's your favorite child. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, this is this means the world to me.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen to get into Mike McDaniel, I was very
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  Speaker 2: lucky when Kyle Shanahan took when Kyle Shanahan took the
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  Speaker 2: head coaching job after losing to the Patriots in the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl with the Atlanta Falcons. When the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: Ers named John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan head coach GM,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, great. Then I get the text from McDaniel.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a forty nine er. I was like, this is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, head coach of the Dolphins, is a I
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  Speaker 1: would say, childhood friend, lifelong friend. You described it how
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  Speaker 1: you want.
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  Speaker 2: He described it in a way that I never that
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  Speaker 2: I was really touched by. When I went to a
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  Speaker 2: practice in Miami, this training camp, he introduced me to
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  Speaker 2: one of the coaches is his oldest friend. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, man, that's so nice. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that's great. It made me feel old as hell, but
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  Speaker 2: it also was like, yeah, that's so nice.
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  Speaker 1: Are sweet?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of my and he is. He's one
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  Speaker 2: of my oldest friends that I have and I grew
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  Speaker 2: up you know he If you know the story of
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, him and his mom lived in Greeley, Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: where the Broncos had training camp. He met he lost
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  Speaker 2: a hat at practice because he used to go get interviews.
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  Speaker 2: A man that worked for the Broncos organization went and
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  Speaker 2: bought him the same hat as a Charlotte Hornet's hat
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  Speaker 2: at the mall and then gave it to him. He
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  Speaker 2: went home told his mom about it. His mom wanted
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  Speaker 2: to meet the guy. They met, They hit it off,
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  Speaker 2: They dated, got married. Gary, his stepfather, who worked for
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos, moved Mike and his mom down to They
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  Speaker 2: lived in unincorporated Arapo County aka Centennial. I lived in Aurora,
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  Speaker 2: which is it's the same, and they Mike and I
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  Speaker 2: became friends in seventh grade and became very close in
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  Speaker 2: seventh and eighth and ninth grade, and then have remained
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  Speaker 2: friends till now. You know, well, And.
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  Speaker 1: The wild thing about it is, and I know you've
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  Speaker 1: said this to me before, is you guys as because
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  Speaker 1: when you're that age, you're like twelve thirteen, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a comedian, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a football coach, and everybody okay, and then
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  Speaker 1: you are, well, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What's funny is that it's like when you make when
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  Speaker 2: you make statements like that as a kid, you have
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  Speaker 2: to be willing for it to not fall exactly what
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  Speaker 2: it was, because I believe what it was was he
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  Speaker 2: was going to play in the NFL. I was going
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  Speaker 2: to be the biggest comedian in the world. And you're like,
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  Speaker 2: then you scale those down to size and you go like,
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  Speaker 2: what about great head coach and successful, great career comedian.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're like, let's bring those down a notch.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just chill out on Because when you're in seventh grade,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you're like, I'm going to be the president and also
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: be the heavyweight champ of the WWE. And then you're like,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: chill out, dog, why don't you become a VP of
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Merrill Lynch and do pretty well?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm what I I'm gonna wind up running the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: wrestling event at the VFW. That's how it lands for you.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Know, I got a backyard match where a guy's gonna
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: get set on fire. That's where I'm gonna be.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: The thing that I noticed a lot about because I've
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: kind of existed in this world at ESPN and here, Yeah,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you run into a lot of athletes who would love
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: to be stand up comedians, and you run into a
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: lot of stand up comedians are like, I feel like
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I would just be really good at being an athlete,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Like is there do you guys have that that shared
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: like back and forth like loving and kind of living
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: through each other a little bit.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, one hundred percent. One hundred percent.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: He's so funny.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He's he's so funny. And what's what's crazy is in
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the offseason he like loves stand up comedy, Like he
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: like loves it, Like I'll send him I sent him
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Joe Lists Special on YouTube, like I'll send him people
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: that maybe I'm like, oh, I think you would love
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: this dude, you know, and he'll be like because he's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: up at two forty five. Yeah, and he busts his
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: hump the whole time. But I know there's times where
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: he's like he texted me before we went out. We
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: went down to Miami last year for the Browns game,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and I get a text from him at like four
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: in the morning. He's like, Hey, you're HBO special is
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: playing right now. I'm watching it, and You're like you
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: aren't you prepping for the Browns?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: You know, ready for this?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like, well, I've seen the special. I just
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: there's a couple of bits I want to see and
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna go back and you're like, oh, that's awesome,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And there's what he's done for me is I don't know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I knew. I knew I was an athletic by the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: time I hit high school. But what I did realize
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: with Mike was like I view football sometimes through the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: lens of like what what he's explained to me. It
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: gets interesting in different ways. It's not just like the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: collective like let's go team, everybody's everybody's great and everybody
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: on that side's bad. You just kind of realize all
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the intrapersonal relationships and like who's been affected by who
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: and and how like, you know, he did a fun
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: thing for the forty nine ers. I don't know if
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking out of school on this, but I love
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: that he did this. One season with the forty nine ers.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: He told me he would take a play from the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: team they were playing the next week, and he would
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: run it once in a game so that when they
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: were watching film, they'd be like, is that our play?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: He would just do that to mess with them, just
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: strictly to mess with them. He'd be like, we're gonna
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: run it once and then you know that was it,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and that's it's so funny. That's him being so funny
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: through like his you know what he does, but he is.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: People ask all the time, They're like, is that really
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: who he is? I'm like, dude, that is him and
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: those press conferences and him on the sidelines when he's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: miked up, that's one hundred percent Mike.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I have Ben Leeber played for the Chargers and the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Vikings made a very large mistake by befriending me. We've
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: gotten very close and so the same thing where you
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: just learn more about the behind the scenes aspects and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the on the field stuff where you're like, oh, like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you go, don't check it down. He's like, what are
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you talking about? You're an idiot. That's not how football works.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So you learn all this different stuff.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I remember the first conversation having that with Mike. My
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: friend Chad Harder and I go to all the games.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Chad and I grew up with Mike friends in high school,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and Chad and I were living together in Tucson. This
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: is after I graduated from U of A. I was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: still doing stand up. He was punting at the University
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: of Northern Colorado and it came down to Tucson to
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: stay in shape for audition, for auditions. For it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Let's go with aud audition.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: He had a football audition. That's such a lame showbiz terms.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: But hey, damn, will you come help me with my lines?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I need to dude. He kicked the punt one time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: You know how punters can make it go over or
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: they can make it drop. So I didn't know they
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: could do that. And I was helping him with one
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of his auditions, but he punted the ball and we
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: were just at like this high school football field in Tucson,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm like I put a cigarette down to catch it,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and h dude, the ball. The ball went up and
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: then came down right on my face. I mean, just
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: zero down. And we're like, well, that's it for the day.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: We're not going to run lines anymore. You just busted
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: my face.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: When I was working at ESPN and we were like
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I desperately wanted the Vikings to just built a new facility,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and I was just like I just need to just
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: get me in the building, just get me. I can't
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: remember what I pitched some dumb shit, Like hey, what
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: if I did? They were like, we get it, we
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: love you, just go do it. And so one of
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the things I did is it is basically letting me
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: loose in the facility. Was they put me in pads
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and I was going to catch a punt, dude. I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: from that moment on, I was like whatever, somebody could
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: not even catch the ball, and like it's it's a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: very difficult task. It is a terrifying task. I don't terrify.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But I remember McDaniel called us. He was in Houston
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: with Kubiak okay, and we were like asking him who
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: are they going to draft? It was like Vince Young,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Mattliner at Jay Cutler, it was that draft, Reggie Bush.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It was like unbelievable. And we were like there were
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the number one pick. We're like, who are you guys
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: gonna take? Who are you gonna take? This was day
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: of the draft. The draft is already in. Apparently they
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: had already like they knew they had already contacted him.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: But McDaniel was like Mario Williams and we were like who.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: He's like Mario Williams from NCI State and we're like,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: who is that guy? Why would you do that? We
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: were like calling him out, being like that's stupid. You
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: should draft Bush, you should draft Vince Young or whatever. Yeah, well,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: it was just the way his mind was. He was like, well,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Kubiak explained it to us, when you're playing Peyton Manning
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: twice a year, you need someone that's going to get
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: in his face and disrupt him from destroying your team.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And you're like, okay, So now when people make draft decisions,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, they clearly know something. They're clear they're
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: not just doing it to be like this will piss
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the fan base off. They're like drafting for a reason.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: But I remember him telling us that that was like
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the first moment of us learning from him of like, oh, okay,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you like, you guys know way more than we did.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And he was like, you just want to keep it
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to that. And that's always how it's been where it's like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that's not my business. But man, I love I love
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: hearing him talk about it, and whenever I see him,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you know, during the season or offseason, it's always interesting
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to hear him talk his business.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And I think you're I think you deserve a fair
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: amount of credit for the amount of chill with which
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you've handled yourself because I've seen pictures and I would
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: have known if somebody, like if something had gone awry,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and like, let me tell you this. My best friend
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: from childhood runs a restaurant inside a hotel that you've
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: never heard of, and whenever I go there, I act
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: unruly like I He's like this, sigh, you can't come
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to my job. He's like, you can't just walk in
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the kitchen. The fact that you have maintained your composure
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: on the field, like I've seen you on the field
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of the sideline of Dolphins games before the game and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you have it together, and I believe you deserve a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: lot of credit for that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I'm it genuinely is one of
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: those things where no matter what happens, it's it's still
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: surreal to this day. And the best part is he's
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: just warming up. Like the best part is he's.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Just like, that's what I was gonna get at is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and we'll get back to let's get back to Niners
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I got but we also have to talk about I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: believe you were at the Broncos game, weren't you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was at seventy I was at seventy
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to twenty.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna discuss that, and that's a part of
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: this question here. Like it's hard to even put it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: into words, but he's this culmination of everything that's been
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: happening in the league, like the the modern offenses and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the way with which these young head coaches are changing
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the game. It's like he came around and I'm trying
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to explain, like you explain it in a in a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: stand up way. Right, you have a bunch of people
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: doing a certain thing, and all of a sudden, one
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: guy You're like, oh, none of us could do it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It's he's the like, yeah, it's Jimmy Parto's crowd work, right, Yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it's He's He's just doing this thing that I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: five years from now, ten years from now, you're gonna
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: be like, this dude changed the entire league. Like he's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: running plays his old boss is running the next week,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he's like pulling schemes out and then the best coaches
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in the league are like, what's up, Okay, we'll do that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: He actually showed me that. He actually showed me that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I went down to the to the Dolphins Broncos game.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Katie and I went down there a little early because
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Katie was doing Levatard and then we were gonna hang out.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: But we got in Thursday and McDaniel's you know, wife,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Katie was She was like, well, why don't you guys
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: come over and watch the game? It was forty nine
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Ers Giants, and so I wore my Niner stuff over there,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and it was it was like, you know, McDaniel was like, oh,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: cool shirt, and you're like, yeah, I still love him.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, I know you, but you left. Katie
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: even said that, she goes, he's the one that left.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: You should you shouldn't feel bad. But what was interesting
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: was like seeing kind of him watch his old team
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and assess certain things that maybe that me or you
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: would never pick up on on a team. But what
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I really realized was is that, like he's a culmination
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: of your You absolutely nailed it where the NFL is going.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But I think a lot of credit has to go
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: not only to Kyle Shanahan, but to Mike Shanahan. Yes,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I think Mike Shanahan coached in a way where he
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: let his assistance, He let his coordinators have their own personality,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: be themselves. They didn't have to be this like exact
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: replica of what a coach should be. And I think
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that paid off of because when you look back to
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: those those Washington coaches, that Washington coaching.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Still that that staff is dominating the league.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It's insane. You got Kyle, you have Mike, you have
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Matt lafleur, you have.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Our guy, Kevin O'Connell.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell McVeigh. There's like guys where you're just like, oh, well,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that clearly all that's like when you know, and this
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: is this will link back to comedy, when you see
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a group. We always talk about the Boston group that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: came up to New York in the nineties. That was
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Bill Bird, Dane Cook, Patrise O'Neill, Bobby Kelly, Al del
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Benny and all those guys, and you're like, oh, well,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that made sense because they come in these like groups.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I think it happens in groups, and I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: people have been talking about it for years now, especially
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: with McVeagh and Shanahan and the success they've had, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: then Lafleur in the success he was having in Green Bay.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And it was interesting because I was kind of sitting
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: back being like McDaniel's coming. You can give of all
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the credit you want, but I know, the second McDaniel
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: gets a shot, he's coming. That guy has been ready
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: for this, that guy has helped out so much, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in San Francisco, which I obviously loved, but it just
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: was a matter of time. It was a matter of
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: time before he got his chance. And to see him
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: last year do well and kind of turn around to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and make Miami, you know, a threat in the AFC East.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And then when I got to go down there in
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the off season when I was at the Daniel Beach
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: improv and they were in training camp and I went.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I got to see him before practice and talk to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: him after practice, and I asked him. I was just like,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: how you feeling. He's like, I'm comfortable, And I was like,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that's going to mean that's going to mean so much
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: because McDaniel, you know, like a good comic, McDaniel knows
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: where do, what he needs to improve and how to
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: improve it. And I think when they went and got
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Vic Fangio, a former forty nine er decordinator, former Bronco
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: head coach, to kind of control the defense, I think
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it has kind of made McDaniel go into sicico mode
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: where he's like, now I can run all these crazy
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: plays and I can put all these people in and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you know he's also Italian. The thing that's overlooked about
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: McDaniel that no one talks about is how insane of
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a talent evaluator he is. Because now everyone's talking about
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a chain and you're like, yeah, he's been doing that
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: for years. He did it in Washington, he did it
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta, he did it in San Francisco, and now
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: he's doing it in Miami where he knows kind of
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: what he needs out of a play or Raheem Moster
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: killing It is one of my favorite things because after
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game in twenty nineteen at McDaniel, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: went which I got to go do and got to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: go on the field with him after they beat the Packers.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. We were at his house and I
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: was asking him about Raheem Moster because I saw him
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: have a moment with Mostert down on the field, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, what did you tell him? And he
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: was like, I just told him. I always knew this
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: is who he was. I always knew this is what
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: he was capable of, and I just wanted to give
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: him credit for how hard he worked knowing that he
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: knew that and saw it out, because there was just
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: this really emotional moment and you were like, that is insane.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: But then McDaniel tells me, He's like, I've wanted Mostert
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: since he was an undrafted free agent and when I
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: was in Atlanta. He's like, I've been trying to get
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Mostert on my squad since the Falcons, and then now
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: he here, he is in Miami, and you know, you kind.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Of have got eleven touchdowns.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got Moster, you got a chan and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Jeff Wilson Junior, another guy that McDaniel saw in San Francisco.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: If McDaniel and I aren't friends, there'd probably be a
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: part of me that's a little upset because when he
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: left San Francisco, he knew who to take. Yeah, he
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: knew who to bring with him to build up this team,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: and it was like so cool to see it. I'm
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: so proud of the guy, and I'm very excited for
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the Sunday night football game against the Eagles because after
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: they broke brock Perty's elbow, I've just wanted revenge on
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the Eagles by any means.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Necessary, even if it comes via your friend coaching the Dolphins.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, dude, sometimes you got to have a friend beat
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: up your bully.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: If you can't, you got to get it where you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: can get it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: And you know what, December third is a while away,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but I'm excited for December third, Niners at Eagles.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I think he's the king of maximizing what's available. Like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it's like he looks at what's available to him, the resources.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: It's like all that crazy shit he did with Trent
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Williams pulling Trent Williams out, and people don't realize that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: was him. That was him. And so watching what he's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: doing down there with the guys he has, it's just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it's just incredible.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the example of the playoff game last
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: year Dolphins at Bills. He had Skyler Thompson and we
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: stayed Chad and I stayed at the hotel connected to him,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: you know, And he came in and messed with us
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: before he went to the stadium, and I was like,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: how you feeling, and he goes, I'm gonna be honest.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: The first half of the week, I was like a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: little filled with anxiety and panic because I have my
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: third string quarterback against arguably the best team in the AFC,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and then it just clicked, Oh man, this is fun,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: this is fun. And then they go down seventeen, they
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: come back, they almost beat the Bills in Buffalo with
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a third string quarterback, and it was like watching him
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and his attitude has helped me with comedy, just be like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: oh yeah. Sometimes you got to realize, like this is
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: all fun. We're all playing with house money, and sometimes
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: you forget that if you have a job you love,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: sometimes you get so down and out about tiny things
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that you forget the big picture and you're like, oh,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: this is great, this is unbelievable.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely because you I find that all the time.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, the flight or the show,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: like whatever it is, dog or dog.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Shit in Rochester, that's where I'm going this weekend, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no one's gonna show up. And then you
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: go You're like, oh, this this is the best job.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: In the world. I get to go, I get to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: go have fun.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I get to go be a silly boy for five
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: shows and pay rent. Like that's fine, I'm fine with.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: That this weekend. Here's here's the problem this. I warned
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: everybody there was a reason I put a warning on
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the front of this show is because I knew what
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: we were capable of. So let's talk. Let's talk Niners Vikings.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about your current team,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: but the one moment I have to ask you about, Yeah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: because in those dark years, you know, in the Abyss,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: when you were right. I think it was right before.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people I know Huntsberger
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and other people are like, they talk about the Singletary
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: years as though they were years they spent a lot
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: on a mountain.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Can't win with them, can't win with them? I love it, dude, Singletary.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Singletary does not get enough credit for his talent evaluation.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for building the roster that Harbaugh ran.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: With him and Mike Nolan mm hmm. Not my future
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: father in law, but the former head coach of the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers went out and got pieces that Harball
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: was able to come in and kind of with Vic Fangio,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: put in a pile and go like Oh Navarro, Bowman,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Patrick Willis, Dante Whitner, all these guys that could go.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Justin Smith getting him from the Bengals, drafting a young
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Alden Smith, getting all these guys that you were like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god, we're winning. Like it
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: wasn't like like Kyle Shanahan, it was zero to eight.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: First season, you put in Jimmy G. He rips five. Okay,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Jimmy G's the real deal. Let's give him a huge contract,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and that kind of built that was able to carry them.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Moment with Harbaugh, it was literally he came in and
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: we started winning and no one expected it. Yeah, all
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, Frank Gore is running well with under
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Greg Roman's offense and Alex Smith is a game manager
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and he's doing really well, but this defense is just
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: killing people and just shutting people down. That was like,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: oh my god, we're oh my god, oh my god,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: we're back. Week one. The first game Harbaugh one was
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: against the Seahawks, who had just kind of had us
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: for like since since the divisions had been realigned. It
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: was just like the Seahawks had had our number. And
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: then you just come in and you beat Pete Carroll
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: for the first and you're like, all right, let's go.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And it was just that kind of thing. It must
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: have felt the same way you guys did when you
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: got Farv.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And so now let's bring all worlds together. Yeah, because
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: right before you guys went on that run and built
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: we had it is what we felt like because we
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: had Adrian Peterson. We had we had gotten Steve Hutchison,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: probably the most underrated sign in maybe the last three
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: forty years in the NFL. We put a Hall of
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Famer at left guard. You have this unbelievable defense that
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't allow anyone to get a hundred years.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, you guys took him from Seattle.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we helped you out of the.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Reason Sean Alexander fell off.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, and so and then you stacked Farv
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: on top of it. But everybody kind of forgets that.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: The first couple games of the far season we won,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: we were playing okay, but it just didn't look right.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And no matter how many people want to deny it,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: there were people that were like, is this the right decision?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And then you came to Minnesota.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I got I remember that game and it was a
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: it was a fight, and it was like, okay, we're
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: in it. I remember it because it was before Sunday ticket.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I was at a bar and I was still drinking
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and Farve hit your tight end in the back of
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the end zone.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even a tight end. It was it was
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Greg greg Lewis. No, it was a guy that we'd
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: we had signed I think that week Greg Lewis. It
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: was far Greg Lewis, and it was it was You're right,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: it was back of the end zone. It was toe touch.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I remember being in the bar being like, that wasn't
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a catch. I remember screaming that at the TV, being like,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: that's not No.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: One thought it was a catch. No, Like we all
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: got excited, but we're like, well, here comes the replay
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to ruin it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I remember that run and then I
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: think you guys were the favorite against the Saints, right.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Don't want to do it. I'd like to move on.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about the happiness that was
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that moment.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: It was one of the greatest MC Championship games of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: all time. I'm sorry, it just was. It was like
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: no dog in the fight. I watched that game at
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a bar with Joe List and Nate Bargetzi and we
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: sat there watching it and Nate this is how it
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: always worked back in the day, when we were all
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: out drinking. I would sit in the middle, and inevitably
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Nate would find a point and Joe would find a
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: point and they would argue about it and I would
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: have to sit there like a referee and break it up.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: But I remember, I think it was I think it
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: was Nate that was like, this is the greatest NYC
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Championship game of all time. And then it just started
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: a conversation where you know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: We never feel that way here because of the pain
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: associated with it, But if you're able to step away
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: from it and you go all these turnovers, all this
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: crazy back and forth, they drive, they drive down. I've
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: said this on the show before. When Farv through that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that pass to Sidney Rice on the last drive and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: he took it off the field, I made you're not
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: gonna understand this with your lineage. But I had this
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: moment where I literally in my head, I didn't verbalize it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, we're going to the super Bowl, yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and and then to get to twelve minute.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I just I'm gonna tell you right now. I had
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: that same exact feeling when my beautiful fiance got me
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: tickets to the twenty nineteen Super Bowl forty nine Ers
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Chiefs Oh we were up by ten. I really was, like,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I think McDaniel's about to win a super Bowl. By
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the way, just for future reference, I will never in
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: my life say McDaniel's gonna win a Super Bowl until
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: there is zero on the clock and they are lifting
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: him up because twice now sigh, twice Falcons versus the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Patriots in the first half. At the halftime, I go, cool,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: McDaniel's gonna get a ring. Patriots came back, Chiefs Niners.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying. So You're never hearing that out of
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: me until it happens, and until I know the game
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: is over and the confetti is until he is in
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: a shower of confetti, will I that's the next time
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I will say that.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: That's welcome to the psyche of a Vikings fan. Oh
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: my god, that is That is how we live all
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the time and forever.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, especially with ninety eight and then yeah, the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: nine NFC Championship game.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't, I don't. We can talk about well,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: we'll just keep moving. Let's talk about we were at
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Montreal together.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eleven.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about if we're at Montreal together. And I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I like you said to me, like someday I'm gonna
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: be the voice of the NFL Network's top one hundred
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: players that have been like, hey, guys, you know Dan
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: is insane.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out of my mind.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I owed all to former NFL Films
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: producer Paul Manusky. I probably butchered his last name, but
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I just know him as Paul he is. He no
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: longer works in NFL films, which is a crime. It
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: truly is a crime, because he was one of the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: best producers I've ever worked with on anything. And he
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: was a fan of the Bonfire on Sirius XM, which
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: is still Monday through Thursday five to seven pm with
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Big Jafferson and Robert Kelly. I'll still plug the show.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Serious Serious XM Faction Talk one oh three. He was like, hey, Man,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: would you have any interest in doing some like voiceover
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: for NFL films? And I was like, that's all I've
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: ever wanted to do. I would love to do that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Besides comedy, all I've ever wanted to do was those
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: recap videos where you're like and the forty nine ers
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: knew that that they would be different from the rest,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and he said, listen, we're doing NF Top one hundred
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: for NFL Films. It's gonna be on NFL network, which
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you want to do it? And I was like, yeah, dude,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: that sounds so good. He's like, well, we got Wendell
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Pierce from the Wire doing like the longer stuff, but
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: we need someone that's like intermitted, like in between those.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: We need you. And I was like, sign me up.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And I've been doing it for seven seasons now. Yeah.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: What's crazy is now I find out the list and
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I tell McDaniel how many dolphins got on it. Now
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to tell you who's on it
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: and where they're at so you can tell them because
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: so they'll know before. But my friend Chad Hard, who
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I brought up, was sitting at home watching it. This
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: is like twenty and sixteen, twenty seventeen, and there's a
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: clip where I talk about the Davonte Freeman and this
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: is when he was with the Falcons, and I go like,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: number thirty two's Davonte Freeman, whose ability to get away
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: from the and then it cuts to McDaniel coaching up
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Davonta Freeman on the Falcons and Chad sent me and mcdanie,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: you know the clip and he's like, it goes from
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: SODA's voice over to you coaching. He was like, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: was freaking out in my house and You're like, yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. That's like the coolest one.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: That's like, that's the pinnacle moment.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the moment where you're like, that's insane
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: that one of our buddies is at home and he
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: hears me do the voiceover into a clip of McDaniel coaching,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and you're like, come on, dude, come.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: On, let's talk. Let's and well, you got to get off.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I know you got to get off here, but let's
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: close with your lovely fiance. Yes, who I care about
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: A great deal.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I mean you guys, but you guys came through the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: mud together doing Snapchat sports. I know about your guys'
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: time and the suck at ESPN.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I always thought I was a hard worker, and I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: remember the first day at ESPN, I did the night show.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: She did the morning show, and I walked in from
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: essentially my shift, and she was sitting like show long
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: put out. Her show had gone out hours ago. She
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: was sitting on the floor of a mutual friend, the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: incredible Steve Bray band.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Steve Brayband and shout out Ashley Brayband
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and Ashley.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Both of them were Ashley, both of them incredibly skilled
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: at ESPN.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Ashley was ended up being Katie's producer on Always Late
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: and Steve is now with the WWE.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Which is, yeah, that's a big win for you. And
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: so the I remember she was sitting on the floor
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: like just ripping ideas, and I, you know, it was
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like when you walk into a green room and you
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: see like and I always knew she was talented and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I was a fan of hers, and I was excited
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to meet her. But you know when you walk into
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: a green room and you're like, oh, is Chappelle in
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: there just working on his bits before the show, and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you're like, god, damn it. You're like, I am gonna
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: have to work, dude. She's so good.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I opened for Ali Wong at the Paramount Theater in Austin, Texas,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: And this is right after Baby Cobra came out, and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I've known ally for a while and I opened for
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Ali and she rips it like absolutely destroys. And then
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: after the show, I'm like, oh, you want to hang out?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And she just goes and listens to the show and
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: tries to add tags to the bits because she was
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: doing a second show and I was like, yeah, I don't.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I don't work hard. I don't work hard at all.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And you know what's funny is Katie's That is absolutely
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Katie's personality. She is one of the hardest workers I know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Like she is like a She's got like the mindset
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: of a hunting dog where you're like, give her a
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: smell and she'll just she'll just go after it. Like
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: she's on Celebrity Jeopardy right now. She just advanced to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the semifinal.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: She is Rosie Perez. I know you, I know you,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I know you said that, But like anybody who's seen
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: herund there, You're like, what is happening? How is she
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: this good at it?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, if you're in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: semifinals of Celebrity Jeopardy, get ready because I watch her
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: study and I'm like, You're gonna body, everybody. She's just
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: like her. Katie's Jeopardy training montage is clubber Lang and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Rocky three, where like all the other celebrities are at like,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you know, like a golden gym, like barely they're like, oh,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I love this, and then Katy's like, em, she's just
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: doing pull ups just like nails. It's wild. I'm watching
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: your study. I'm like, she's gonna body everybody in this
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Celebrity Jeopardy semifinal coming up.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: It's a weird spot for you, because I know, the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: thing that is cool about my house is I'm the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: funniest guy in it, undisputedly.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: There's been moments where she says stuff where I go like,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: you know, that's like a full bit, right, and she's like, oh.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: It's wild. We did this thing where she like it
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: was we were doing fake brackets. Yeah, right, fake brackets
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: for March Madness, and you know, we walked in to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: start filming and it was one of those things where
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: everyone every response she had and everything she said, I
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: was like, should I be a comic? Is that what
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I should do with my life? Yeah, I'd probably be
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: a teacher from now on. She was so funny.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Oh she's hilarious, and it's it's like one of the
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: greatest things is finding someone like her to be in
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: love with. That I'm just like, oh, you're the you.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Just every day she makes me laugh and away room
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the best. This just rules, this
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: is and also you'll enjoy this because you know her
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: one final McDaniel story. I knew he was leaving the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Niners right through him and his wife. I kind of
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: knew that they were going to explore him being a
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: head coach. And he was in the kitchen and Katie goes,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I go, I think McDaniel's leaving the Niners, and she goes, oh,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that's so awesome. Just don't end up in the AFC
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: East because she's a Pats fan. And I was like, yeah, yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: And then he got hired by the Dolphins and Katie goes,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: no Dolphins stuff, no Dolphin stuff in this house, and
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right. And so i've over the
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: past two seasons, I've able to begin in three items
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: of merch. I have a T shirt, a sweatshirt, and
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I just ordered a new sweatshirt because it's really cool.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: But at the we were talking about the Broncos Dolphins game.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: That felt so good to watch because I remember when
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: McDaniel knew he was going to leave the forty nine ers,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the Broncos wanted nothing to do with him, no interview,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: and he was a ball boy there. He was like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: it made the most sense for h him to go
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: back and turn that organization around, and they didn't. And
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: then he hung seventy seventy and then he took a knee.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: He still showed grace even though he had the knife
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: at their throat and he removed it. I love it.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I love it. I told my clup line after the game,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I wrote, Broncos, that's gonna be the best breakfast they've
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: ever had in their lives. Then they put the gun
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: to the to the liquor store guy said, I was like,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be the best breakfast. You just save them,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: you know, advanced Joseph, that's gonna be the best breakfast
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: of his life. But yeah, it's insane. It's like, but
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers Vikings, I know we got to go.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I love Kirk Cousins. I love him. I know how
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: good he is because of how much McDaniel and shanahan
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: have talked about him and his time in Washington and
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: how much they enjoyed coaching him, and how great he is.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Like there's always that rumor that Cousins that shanahan or
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: McDaniel are gonna go for cousins. I think that's a
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: sign that you got a keeper right there, when you're like, oh,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: this guy stays even killed. Even with your record right now,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I don't you guys are still a threat. You're still
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: a threat. I think there's a lot of parts of
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the Vikings team that's like have been building over years,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: and I think similar to the Lions, I think the
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Vikings are kind of that upnext mentality. I think the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Bears are in disarray. I think the Packers are. They
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: have to do that reset like they did after.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Cut them down, cut him down, and.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: It's like that Monday night football game is gonna It's
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see how the forty nine ers
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: respond after losing to the Browns and how comfortable the
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Vikings are just in general, playing a very good team,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: playing a very solid team.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: It's going to be It's always some fans want, you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: stack w's that's the point. Get the best, get the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: best you know place you can in the postseason, then
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  Speaker 1: see what happens. But I always love the moments when
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  Speaker 1: you get to see where your current version of your
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  Speaker 1: team team stacks up against the best team or one
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  Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league. It's one of
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  Speaker 1: those moments. So I think it's gonna be really fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I think this is like, this is the part
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  Speaker 2: of having a good team that should make you nervous,
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  Speaker 2: but it's also kind of a cool thing where you're like, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: they're coming for it every Vikings an Vikings are going
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  Speaker 2: to show up and really try to take the Niners
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  Speaker 2: out because the Niners, I mean, I saw what it
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  Speaker 2: did for the Browns. They've had a whole week of like,
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  Speaker 2: we beat the Niners, and you're like, so it meant
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  Speaker 2: it means a lot for teams to beat the forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers right now. So I'm just hoping that doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Happen last thing we do. I know you're gonna hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I need a score prediction.
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  Speaker 2: I love you, and I want you to know that
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  Speaker 2: before I say this, I love you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be thirty one fourteen forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting. I also love you, and I did think
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings defense would show up a little better than
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  Speaker 1: you're thinking, because I thought it would be Niners fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: Vikings one hundred and thirty eight. Dan, It's nice to
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  Speaker 1: have you, buddy, I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: It will be close. It will be close till the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter, and then the forty nine ers will find
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  Speaker 2: a way to pull away. That's that's what I think totally.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about that at all. It's my show.
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  Speaker 1: The show's over.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Buddy, Sigh, you rule, dude. I'll talk to soon,
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  Speaker 2: Letter Bud.
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