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Wired To Hunt Podcast #120: Early Season Hunting Plans & 2016 Goals · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number one and
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Speaker 1: twenty tay in the show, Dan and I are sharing
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Speaker 1: quick updates on my idaho elk hunt, our most recent
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Speaker 1: offseason scouting results, are plans for the early season and
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Speaker 1: our goals for two thousand sixteen. Okay, welcome to the
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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by six Gear. Today,
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Speaker 1: we're just going to do an episode with me and
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Speaker 1: my trusty co host Dan. It's gonna be kind of
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Speaker 1: short and sweet, but we wanted to get an episode
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Speaker 1: in here before the hunting season really kicked off, at
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Speaker 1: least for me and Dan, where we can talk about
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Speaker 1: kind of our final preparations before the season, our goals
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Speaker 1: and hopes and dreams for the two thousand and sixteen
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Speaker 1: white Tail season. I don't know a bunch of crap
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Speaker 1: like that, Dan, So does that sound okay to you?
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Speaker 1: It sounds great. I need this. I need this. Good
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Speaker 1: me too. We we haven't well what we've done. Last
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Speaker 1: time we chatted was just after I killed by Montana
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Speaker 1: Buck and that was I don't know, that was almost
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Speaker 1: two weeks. That was probably two weeks ago. Now, um
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Speaker 1: for the past. Like, I don't even know six podcasts
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Speaker 1: you've put out, I don't know if I've we've been
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Speaker 1: able to connect on many of those. I know there's
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Speaker 1: been a bunch of scheduling issues and stuff. So we
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Speaker 1: were on the Montana one together and then shoot, there's
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Speaker 1: one in between where we weren't there together. But I
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Speaker 1: don't know, A long story short, we we need to
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Speaker 1: catch up, right, We do need to catch up. And
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut you off right there, okay please, And
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Speaker 1: like you know, I consider you a really good friend, Mark,
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Speaker 1: but I get extremely jealous when I see you on
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Speaker 1: your Instagram and you're up on top of a mountain
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Speaker 1: where I was one year ago. But instead of being
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Speaker 1: on that mountain with you, I'm in a I'm in
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Speaker 1: a cubicle. I'm sorry, Dan, It's all right. I'm a
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Speaker 1: big boy. I can handle it. I know that feeling though,
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Speaker 1: that's a shitty it's a crappy feeling. Usually you're the
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Speaker 1: one who goes PG thirteen damn. Oh, And I might
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Speaker 1: get there. I don't blame you. I uh, I gotta
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Speaker 1: tell you though, you know, you texted me like after
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Speaker 1: the first day of the hunt and said something like,
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Speaker 1: let me let me guess it's going bananas, like you
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Speaker 1: were pissed and your figures would be awesome, And that
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Speaker 1: first day it was kind of great. So I was like, oh, man,
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Speaker 1: Dan's gonna be pretty upset. But after that day, you haven't.
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Speaker 1: You didn't miss out. It was kind of more of
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Speaker 1: the same that you and me had last year, right. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: are we talking a lot of rain? We had three
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Speaker 1: days of rain Jesus, So it was not quite to
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Speaker 1: the level that you and me had, at least from
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Speaker 1: like a length like you know, with you and me,
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Speaker 1: it was the entire day for like three of those
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Speaker 1: days or four of those days. We had three days,
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Speaker 1: but on every one of those days we at least
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Speaker 1: got some portion of the day where it stopped. So
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Speaker 1: I think the first day was just that we got
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Speaker 1: drenched in the morning, but the afternoon was fine. The
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Speaker 1: second day we got wet morning. Well, we got both times,
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Speaker 1: but there's little breaks or at least we can get
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Speaker 1: out of the tent and we still hunted morning and
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Speaker 1: evening and then the third day was just the morning again. Um,
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Speaker 1: but you know how that is. It's just it's just tough.
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Speaker 1: Everything is wet. Um. There were no tent failures on
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Speaker 1: this trip, so that was a plus. That's good. That's good.
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Speaker 1: Although I gotta admit da And there was lots of
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Speaker 1: fun made at your expense. Okay, you guys talked it
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Speaker 1: behind my back all you want, I'm okay with it.
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Speaker 1: It was like like we went to bed and it
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Speaker 1: was raining and soone yelled, Hey, Mark, gonna have to
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Speaker 1: come to the tent with you. Oh goodies. Um. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, we we thought that we
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Speaker 1: might be able getting the elk this time, but maybe
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Speaker 1: we were too earlier. Maybe it was just hunting pressure,
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Speaker 1: but they just weren't bugling. Again. The elk that we
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Speaker 1: did end up finding, we're super super high and really
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Speaker 1: far back. They're kind of like we had last year. Um.
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Speaker 1: We you know, we did. My buddy Andy killed the
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Speaker 1: cow on the first day, which was awesome, and you
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Speaker 1: know after that, there was like four days later we
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Speaker 1: saw a cow and a calf way up on a mountain,
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Speaker 1: and then the next day or two days later we
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Speaker 1: ended up seeing a herd of like seven or eight cows,
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Speaker 1: and then a giant bowl. We did see one big
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Speaker 1: bowl um way above us on this mountain and we
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Speaker 1: just took off, I don't know how far, end up
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Speaker 1: being a couple of miles or something, and it was
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Speaker 1: all straight uphill um. We chased him and just never
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Speaker 1: catch up. And that was kind of the extent of
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Speaker 1: the elk hunting excitement. But we did see two really
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Speaker 1: big bears, which is kind of nice, and a bull
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Speaker 1: moose really yeah, And then on the drive home we
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Speaker 1: saw a wolf and a grizzly bear, like forty yards
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Speaker 1: off the road. Oh my god, that's that's awesome. You
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Speaker 1: know how excited I was driving through Wyoming and I
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Speaker 1: was just like, hey, look an antelope. Hey look an antelope.
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Speaker 1: Hey look, and you know, like and you're like, okay, Dan,
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Speaker 1: we get it. There's a thousand antelopes on this road. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So what I want to know is do you remember
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Speaker 1: that day? It was kind of missing out. The morning
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Speaker 1: was a really good, beautiful morning, and we climbed to
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Speaker 1: the top. You had some pictures taken there on your
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Speaker 1: Instagram that I saw. Um. Then that day we saw
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Speaker 1: those all those elk basically the next mountain over. So
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Speaker 1: we went straight down and then we went straight and
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Speaker 1: went straight down to the bottom. We ran into two
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Speaker 1: moose and we went straight up to the top up
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Speaker 1: again to try to get on those the the elk
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Speaker 1: that we saw, were they in that area? So interestingly,
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Speaker 1: that whole area there to the west, they well, there
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Speaker 1: may have been elk in there, but we started we
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Speaker 1: started hunting there, like day two check. We decided to
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Speaker 1: scolpe that area out, and we did see a cow
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Speaker 1: and a calf up there, and on one point we
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Speaker 1: heard like two bugles in that direction. But two different
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Speaker 1: guys with a bunch of horses and like outfitting camps
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Speaker 1: came riding by a cent and they're gonna set up
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Speaker 1: camp over there. It's like these are then they weren't together,
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Speaker 1: so there's two separate camps coming in over there. So
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Speaker 1: we decided to bail on that side and we moved
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Speaker 1: all the way east. So we spent most of the
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Speaker 1: rest of our time over to the east. And I
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Speaker 1: gotta tell you this, Dan, you might not believe it,
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Speaker 1: because we we we felt like we worked pretty hard,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you and we were there, But we
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Speaker 1: probably did like three times or more the amount of
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Speaker 1: hiking and going up mountains. This time, it was like
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Speaker 1: last year's trip was the most brutal from like just
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Speaker 1: dealing with the elements and like that kind of challenge.
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Speaker 1: This year was definitely my most physically challenging hunt. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we just I think, you know, it was partly because
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Speaker 1: of where the elk were, and then it was partly
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Speaker 1: because I think, you know, last year, because it was
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Speaker 1: so wet NonStop, it was just tough to hike. This time,
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Speaker 1: we had enough gaps in the rain that the ground
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Speaker 1: wasn't all Greece so we could hike. So we just
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Speaker 1: hiked and hiked and hiked and hike and went higher
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Speaker 1: and higher and higher. And I think also because last year,
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Speaker 1: because of the challenges we had finding elk, I kind
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Speaker 1: of wanted to keep pushing farther and higher to try
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Speaker 1: to eventually find him. And we tried. Um, we never
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Speaker 1: really did get into too many of them, but I
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Speaker 1: kind of have an area of where I think they are.
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Speaker 1: It's just like freaking seven eight miles off the road
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Speaker 1: in the deepest, nastiest hell hole you ever you ever
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Speaker 1: could find, and it's uh man, I don't know. We
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Speaker 1: when we're up there, we're like, okay, this is great,
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Speaker 1: but if we shoot a bullet's gonna take us like
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Speaker 1: three days to get out of here and we might die,
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Speaker 1: so right, And that's that's what's so crazy about. You know,
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Speaker 1: you look at some of these guys who you know
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Speaker 1: are using outfitters or you know they're on um, you know,
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Speaker 1: private property. For these elk hunts and those guys, you
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Speaker 1: really have to have respect for those d i y
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Speaker 1: guys who go in deep and basically just bust their
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Speaker 1: ass on public ground and always come out with a
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Speaker 1: bull and it's it's never easy and it's always hard
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Speaker 1: for me. I have a lot of respect for those
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Speaker 1: guys because my one year of experience with elk hunting
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Speaker 1: and the amount that we had to walk. And then
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Speaker 1: now you say, because you had better conditions, you saw
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Speaker 1: elk and you had to walk twice three times as
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Speaker 1: much as we did. Oh shit, I mean those guys
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Speaker 1: are doing it every year. Yeah, the guys can get
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Speaker 1: it done on public land on their own. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that is it is the most with no horses, that's
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Speaker 1: one of the absolute most challenging things out there. It's
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Speaker 1: like in the world that I know, right, so right,
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Speaker 1: and the guys doing sheep hunts, you know, even higher
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Speaker 1: and further. Wow. Yeah, I dream of doing those sheep
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Speaker 1: hunts some day. But then I find myself like almost
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Speaker 1: killing myself on an elk hunt, and like, how in
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Speaker 1: the world can I handle sheep country? But now you know,
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Speaker 1: you know me and you Okay, so we've been on
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Speaker 1: an elk hunt together. Now do you remember that that
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Speaker 1: mule deer hunt that we wanted to go on before
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Speaker 1: we decided to go on the elk hunt, And how
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Speaker 1: brutal that that was gonna be. Oh my gosh. I
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Speaker 1: keep on thinking of that, and like we would have
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Speaker 1: it would have been so tough, right, I still want
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Speaker 1: to do that. We gotta whip ourselves in the shape.
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Speaker 1: Dan I know I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a badass by the time September comes
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Speaker 1: next year when I go, I bet you will. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tryst. But there's a lot to there's a lot
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Speaker 1: to do in between now and then two dan Um
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Speaker 1: that we get to cash in on hopefully here pretty soon.
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Speaker 1: So I want to know, I want to know what's
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Speaker 1: new with you in the white Tail world, because today,
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Speaker 1: you know, I want to get caught up on like
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Speaker 1: our white tail stuff because we haven't got to do
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Speaker 1: as much. Um so I've got I've got some very
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Speaker 1: excited news that I have not shared anywhere yet. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I want you to tell it. But do you want
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Speaker 1: to share? Do you want me to go first? Do
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Speaker 1: you want to go first? It sounds like your your
10:05
Speaker 1: stuff is more important and cooler than what my stuff is. Okay,
10:09
Speaker 1: And I want to also do a little fort not
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Speaker 1: four play. I want to foreshadowing. Hey, Mark, I'm a
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Speaker 1: married man. Come on now, I almost said that I
10:19
Speaker 1: want to foreshadow things a little bit. And I just
10:20
Speaker 1: want you to be thinking about the fact that I
10:23
Speaker 1: want you to level with us by the end of
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Speaker 1: the show on your final like goals and shoot or
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Speaker 1: not shoot decision because like earlier summer, you know, we
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Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit and you are all
10:34
Speaker 1: in your head not sure what you want to do.
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Speaker 1: So I'll get at least want an update on that.
10:39
Speaker 1: But before we dive into all that, we need to
10:41
Speaker 1: pause briefly to think our partners at sick Gear for
10:44
Speaker 1: the support of this podcast, and today we have another
10:47
Speaker 1: sick story, and this one comes from Sick of Gear
10:50
Speaker 1: employee Kelly Thornton, who came to hunting late in life
10:53
Speaker 1: and recently she shared with us the experience of killing
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Speaker 1: her first dear. But that first experience, it, uh, it
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Speaker 1: was life changing for me, especially being a woman and
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Speaker 1: especially being older. Uh it was, but it was positive,
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Speaker 1: you know, I, like so many of us, you know,
11:15
Speaker 1: just you get the buck fever when you see it
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Speaker 1: and you shake and everything just goes to heck in
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Speaker 1: a handbasket. You know, nothing connects and it's just crazy. Um,
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Speaker 1: But I did. I took one shot. I ended up
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Speaker 1: shooting the deer. Was a gut shot, you know, probably
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Speaker 1: not the most pleasant, but it was real and I
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Speaker 1: had to learn, you know what that meant. And my husband, uh,
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Speaker 1: he taught me about field dressing, so I actually feel
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Speaker 1: dressed to my own dear. H. It was. It was
11:46
Speaker 1: a neat experience and I had an appreciation for it,
11:48
Speaker 1: and I was very thankful and blessed that God had
11:52
Speaker 1: provided that animal for me to be able to provide
11:55
Speaker 1: to our family. I felt very proud that I had
11:59
Speaker 1: gone out, that I had I had taken an animal
12:04
Speaker 1: that needed to have been taken, and I did it ethically,
12:10
Speaker 1: I you know, respected that animal completely. Um. And I
12:17
Speaker 1: started what I finished, or I finished what I started. Um,
12:22
Speaker 1: you know, from the moment you placed the shot until
12:26
Speaker 1: you know, hiking out with that animal. And so I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: for that, it was very it was very heartwarming. It
12:35
Speaker 1: was very spiritual too. I think hunting is a lot
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Speaker 1: about you know, coming to terms with your spirit spirit spirituality,
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Speaker 1: and uh so, yeah, it was a very spiritual time
12:47
Speaker 1: too for my husband and I. Well, I can certainly
12:51
Speaker 1: relate to those kinds of feelings, and I bet many
12:53
Speaker 1: of you can too. So this was a sick story.
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Speaker 1: My interesting update. Right, all right, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you probably remember, I don't know if you do, but
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Speaker 1: you might remember this buck I've been talking about that
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Speaker 1: I called holy Field. Do you remember that? Dear? Remember him? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so Michigan, this is the deer that um, excuse me,
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Speaker 1: I've got the coffee burps over here. Um. Last year
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Speaker 1: I saw him many times, at least several times. I
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Speaker 1: got tons of tons of daily trail camera pictures of him.
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Speaker 1: I passed him in mid October. He was a really
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Speaker 1: nice three year old eight pointer last year. But since
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Speaker 1: I already killed that buck on opening night here in Michigan,
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Speaker 1: I said, this is a deer I really want to
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Speaker 1: get to next year because he'll be awesome Michigan buck
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Speaker 1: for So the last time I got pictures of him,
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Speaker 1: her saw him was Christmas Day last year. Now, as
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Speaker 1: you know, we've talked a couple of times about this
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Speaker 1: year about how excited I was hoping he'd come back.
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Speaker 1: But you know, last year, he didn't show up in
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Speaker 1: my farm until September. So I've been biding my time
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Speaker 1: checking cameras. He had not shown up over the summer,
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Speaker 1: so I was just hoping, well, one September hits, hopefully
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Speaker 1: he'll be here. Well, I got back from my western
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Speaker 1: trip and two nights ago, I think it was, I
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Speaker 1: was doing some long range scouting and I look out
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Speaker 1: in this field. Well, i've got this food plot, you know,
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Speaker 1: the disaster food plot that I had this summer that
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Speaker 1: got all grown up. Well, I managed to get that
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Speaker 1: half of that planet. But right next to that is
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Speaker 1: this thick bedding cover. And who do I see pop
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Speaker 1: out of that thick bedding cover and stand there but
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Speaker 1: Holy Field himself back for another year. Awesome. So before
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Speaker 1: you go any further, describe what he looks like to
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Speaker 1: the listeners. Yeah, so if you live in Iowa or
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Speaker 1: Kansas or Illinois, you won't be that impressed. But if
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Speaker 1: you're like me and live in Michigan or Pennsylvania or
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Speaker 1: somewhere like that, you would be. He's he's an awesome
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Speaker 1: dear for me. He is a four year old Michigan buck,
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Speaker 1: which is really pretty hitless buck for sure, for just
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Speaker 1: about anyone the state. Um, he's a shooter for pretty
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Speaker 1: much any of the state, almost guaranteed. He's still an
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Speaker 1: eight pointer, but he's just a big, heavy eight pointer.
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Speaker 1: He might be maybe one five, maybe up to one thirty,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, somewhere around there. That's an awesome eight
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Speaker 1: point in my book, and a big body on him
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Speaker 1: looks like and just like a perfect clean, wide and
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Speaker 1: tall eight point rack and just a super cool dear.
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Speaker 1: So I'm pumped about that. And I'm especially excited because
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Speaker 1: you know here in these Michigan properties, it's tough to
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Speaker 1: get a buck through for multiple years. Like there's so
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Speaker 1: many deer that I see his three year olds, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you know, or even two year olds. Man, if he
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Speaker 1: gets to next year, be so cool to have a
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Speaker 1: buck for another year. Um. But it just does not
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Speaker 1: happen that much. You know. I had six Shooter a
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Speaker 1: few years ago that stuck around for a few years.
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Speaker 1: I had another buck called Leaner that made it a
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Speaker 1: few years. But other than that, like every time I
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Speaker 1: have a nice buck, he's dead before the next year.
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Speaker 1: So this is now, this next opportunity I've had, like
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Speaker 1: the last five six years here in Michigan to finally
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Speaker 1: be after a buck for multiple years. And I think
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Speaker 1: this deer is really killable. Um he where Donna say something? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So remind us how much how many acres you're dealing with?
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Speaker 1: How many acres do you have control of? So this
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Speaker 1: is a nine d acre property, of which fort is
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Speaker 1: open crap field, and then forty five is like a
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Speaker 1: square of timbery swamp and then kind of kind of
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Speaker 1: think like a hockey stick. This property looks like a
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Speaker 1: hockey stick. Um. So the long arm of the hockey
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Speaker 1: stick is a little finger of timber, and then on
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Speaker 1: the end of that is a food plot and a
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Speaker 1: bunch of tall grassy brushy bedding cover and stuff. And
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Speaker 1: then on the fat part, like the bottom of the
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Speaker 1: hockey stick, that's kind of it's bigger than a hockey stick,
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Speaker 1: but that becomes a big, fat, kind of rectangle of swamp.
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Speaker 1: And then on the inside corner of that hockey stick,
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Speaker 1: and then the whole outside the other side of it,
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Speaker 1: that's all these big fields. So and then surrounding it
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Speaker 1: is a bunch of properties that all get hunted by
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Speaker 1: a bunch of different people. Um. Neighbors on one side
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Speaker 1: shoot it's like anything. I talked to them once and
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Speaker 1: thought they were going to get on board with not
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Speaker 1: shooting anything under two two years old at least, but
17:05
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're doing that anymore. Um. I've
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Speaker 1: got one neighbor that I stay in touch with, a
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Speaker 1: really nice guy, and he usually doesn't shoot young deer um.
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Speaker 1: But other than that, it's kind of open, open game
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Speaker 1: on anything. And there's also public land um adjacent to
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Speaker 1: it as well that just gets shot up like crazy. Um.
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Speaker 1: So just it's a it's a good spot and then
17:26
Speaker 1: it's also a tough spot in certain ways. So so
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Speaker 1: you're having a four year old buck gets me really
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Speaker 1: excited here and um, so here's this, here's the story
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Speaker 1: and him and I don't know how interested you are
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Speaker 1: in the stand, but hopefully this is interesting. I'm interested.
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Speaker 1: I'm interested. So okay, so holy Field. Last year, do
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Speaker 1: you remember the just before the opening of last year
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Speaker 1: I had this time I came with the podcast I
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Speaker 1: told you about how this night I was scouting the
17:52
Speaker 1: same area and I saw like three shooters come into
17:54
Speaker 1: this one food plot like three days before opening day,
17:58
Speaker 1: and like I analyzed, is that situation and one of
18:01
Speaker 1: those bucks was the buck we called turd ferguson um.
18:04
Speaker 1: And then three days later I shot him in that
18:06
Speaker 1: same field. Well, one of the other bucks in that
18:10
Speaker 1: field was this buck holy Field. Um. So he's doing
18:15
Speaker 1: very similar to the same things he did last year,
18:17
Speaker 1: at least based on this one encounter. But last year
18:19
Speaker 1: I saw him bedded in the same little spot right
18:22
Speaker 1: in between the road and this food plot. It's just
18:24
Speaker 1: like tall brushy grass and a few brushy trees. But
18:29
Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen bucks about out there before.
18:31
Speaker 1: But he seems to take an hanker into it because
18:33
Speaker 1: I saw him come out of there several different times
18:36
Speaker 1: last year, and now here he was again this year. Um.
18:39
Speaker 1: And he feeds in this front food plot a lot,
18:41
Speaker 1: at least he did last year. I got I think
18:43
Speaker 1: eight or nine different daylight trail cara pictures of him
18:46
Speaker 1: out there, and many other after dark pictures. And then
18:50
Speaker 1: I watched him personally three different times out there in person. Um. So,
18:56
Speaker 1: of all the bucks I think I've ever had on
18:58
Speaker 1: this farm Michigan, I think he's probably the most daylight active. Um.
19:02
Speaker 1: So that's a really good thing. And he's in a
19:05
Speaker 1: very hontable spot. Now, this isn't the buck that you
19:09
Speaker 1: shot low one last year, right, correct? This is not okay?
19:13
Speaker 1: This is um that buck? He didn't that buck I
19:17
Speaker 1: think is dead because he disappeared off my cameras at
19:19
Speaker 1: the end of October. This deer did not show up
19:22
Speaker 1: the night that I shot turn um. But he showed
19:25
Speaker 1: up like two weeks later one night I was hunting
19:26
Speaker 1: that same stand and walked underneath me and I watched
19:29
Speaker 1: him bump, does around and stuff. Um. And then and
19:33
Speaker 1: then from there it was just you know, a few
19:34
Speaker 1: late season encounters. I watched him from a long distance
19:37
Speaker 1: a couple of times, lots of pictures. Um. But did
19:41
Speaker 1: I tell you about the trail camera analysis I did
19:43
Speaker 1: of him this summer? Did we talk about that? Uh?
19:47
Speaker 1: Was it when you were using the dear Lab? Yes?
19:52
Speaker 1: I think I think maybe I think I talked about
19:54
Speaker 1: that in one of the podcast ads for deer Lab,
19:56
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure we actually talked about it in person,
19:58
Speaker 1: do we? I don't think, I don't. I don't think.
20:01
Speaker 1: To me, you mentioned that you you were entering those
20:04
Speaker 1: pictures in and you noticed, you know, you were doing
20:07
Speaker 1: analysis on his movement. Yeah. Yeah, So so long story
20:11
Speaker 1: short in that, right, You know, I upload all the
20:13
Speaker 1: pictures I have of of him onto deer Lab, which is, uh,
20:17
Speaker 1: you know, an online tool that allows you to upload
20:19
Speaker 1: your traildcare and pictures and it does a number of
20:21
Speaker 1: different analyzes from that. UM, and started using it. It's
20:26
Speaker 1: a it's a neat tool. It's awesome. Yeah, I think, Um,
20:29
Speaker 1: you know, deer Lab is a great option. There's several others,
20:31
Speaker 1: I think, any you know, anyway you're going about trying
20:33
Speaker 1: to get more details out of the data, you know,
20:38
Speaker 1: it's one thing to just get a picture and say, oh,
20:39
Speaker 1: cool buck. But I think once you start asking why
20:43
Speaker 1: and looking at all the other factors that line up
20:45
Speaker 1: with these sightings or pictures, that's when you really started
20:48
Speaker 1: covering things. And deer lab is a really great tool
20:51
Speaker 1: do that. Um, so I'm interested to hear how things
20:55
Speaker 1: maybe you found out by using that too. But um,
20:58
Speaker 1: long story short, I threw all these pictures in there,
21:00
Speaker 1: and I started looking at the data that it started
21:02
Speaker 1: kind of aggregating for me, And like the big eye
21:04
Speaker 1: opener for me was that he was almost exclusively showing
21:09
Speaker 1: up on this food plot during daylight when there was
21:13
Speaker 1: south or southwest winds And I never hunt that spot
21:17
Speaker 1: with south or southwest winds because it blows right into
21:19
Speaker 1: this betting area. So I was like, wow, if that's
21:22
Speaker 1: the only time I could get a shot at him
21:24
Speaker 1: during daylight, well I'm never going to be there on
21:26
Speaker 1: those days. So what I did is it opens your
21:32
Speaker 1: eyes to a lot of things, really makes you think about.
21:33
Speaker 1: And then it also it's like, well, no, wonder that's
21:35
Speaker 1: why he doesn't come out. He knows that he's got
21:38
Speaker 1: the wind in his favor, and so that's when he
21:40
Speaker 1: comes out during daylight. Um, and I think he's got
21:43
Speaker 1: two spots. He's better because I saw him, you know,
21:46
Speaker 1: two or three nights ago with a northwest wind, but
21:50
Speaker 1: he was better in this other location. So I think
21:53
Speaker 1: when he's got a north or northwest wind, he beds
21:55
Speaker 1: on this spot, like right next to the food plot,
21:57
Speaker 1: between the road and the food plot. And if ever,
22:00
Speaker 1: every time I traditionally would go to the stand, I
22:02
Speaker 1: would walk right past this little area. So he probably
22:04
Speaker 1: sits in there and watches the a TV trail that
22:06
Speaker 1: I walk in on, sees me when I go walking
22:09
Speaker 1: in and never comes out. I was betting are until
22:11
Speaker 1: after dark? Yeah, Or he beds with a south southwest
22:15
Speaker 1: wind on the neighbor's property in this brushy area, and
22:17
Speaker 1: those are the days that I've never hunted there, and
22:20
Speaker 1: so that he comes in and I'm not there. So
22:22
Speaker 1: I did two things. Number One, if I've got a
22:26
Speaker 1: north northwest wind, I might still try to hunt it.
22:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to do some long range scouting before
22:30
Speaker 1: the season and see if he does come out maybe
22:33
Speaker 1: now this year with that wind, but beds in the
22:35
Speaker 1: front area. If he does, then what I'll do is
22:37
Speaker 1: I'll take a really long circular route to get out
22:40
Speaker 1: and around um past that bedding year and then in
22:43
Speaker 1: the stand, and then if not, I'll focus on just
22:46
Speaker 1: the south southwest winds. And what I did. I put
22:48
Speaker 1: in a ground blind brushed into this like screen of
22:52
Speaker 1: sorghum and Egyptian wit that I planned around this food
22:54
Speaker 1: plot that allows me to actually walk a creek to
22:57
Speaker 1: the back side of this brushy strip, pop out of
23:00
Speaker 1: the creek right into the back of this ground blend
23:02
Speaker 1: I rushed in there that's now on the it's on
23:05
Speaker 1: the north side of this food plot, so that south
23:06
Speaker 1: wind would blow it out over this what will be
23:08
Speaker 1: a cut bean field and there won't be anything very
23:10
Speaker 1: often out there um, so it's gonna be a good setup.
23:13
Speaker 1: I put one of those scrape trees out in the
23:15
Speaker 1: food plot that's exactly thirty yards between the tree stand
23:18
Speaker 1: that i'd use on a north wind or the ground
23:20
Speaker 1: blend that I used in the south wind. Um. And
23:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if if conditions are right on opening
23:26
Speaker 1: night or the second night of the season or something,
23:28
Speaker 1: I think it could be a really good chance. Man.
23:31
Speaker 1: I'm pulling for you. Thank you. I'm pumped. I don't know,
23:37
Speaker 1: I get aroused with the chess match just as much
23:40
Speaker 1: as you know we're going into a random set and
23:43
Speaker 1: seeing a random deer. It's like I just beat your ass,
23:46
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That is that to me
23:48
Speaker 1: is awesome. O. The chess matches everything for me. That's
23:51
Speaker 1: that's what. Just absolutely love it. This is my favorite
23:55
Speaker 1: part of deer hunting, is like putting all the strategy
23:59
Speaker 1: pieces together, or sitting here and talking to you about it,
24:01
Speaker 1: or having coffee with a friend and looking at maps
24:03
Speaker 1: and saying, well, what do you think about this versus
24:05
Speaker 1: that versus this? Um or you know. I was talking
24:09
Speaker 1: to Tony Peterson a little bit earlier today, remember him.
24:12
Speaker 1: He was on our podcast a while ago talking about
24:14
Speaker 1: public land stuff, um, and we were talking about my
24:16
Speaker 1: Montana hunt and just like how much fun it is
24:19
Speaker 1: to go into a completely new area like that, and
24:22
Speaker 1: just like you're starting from ground zero and you get
24:25
Speaker 1: peace number A on night number one, and the night
24:27
Speaker 1: number two you get another piece, and then next day
24:29
Speaker 1: and you slowly put pieces together and adjust and make
24:32
Speaker 1: a move and a move and a move, and then um,
24:35
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you get lucky and you get checkmate
24:37
Speaker 1: and it's pretty awesome. It's like, yeah, it's like chess
24:39
Speaker 1: like war, you know, it's uh it is. It is awesome.
24:43
Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I'm super stoked for the Michigan season
24:46
Speaker 1: open here in two weeks, and the Ohio season opens
24:48
Speaker 1: this weekend. And I don't know, man, it's that time
24:53
Speaker 1: of year. But I want to talk about your stuff
24:54
Speaker 1: before we run out of time, because we're gonna do
24:56
Speaker 1: a little shorter episode today, like you know, um, so
24:59
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we talk about what's going
25:01
Speaker 1: on with your left too, Dan, what's doing the white
25:03
Speaker 1: tail from oh Man? Uh? Well about my main farm
25:07
Speaker 1: down south? So real quick, um put in. You know,
25:12
Speaker 1: I started using Deer Lab right, so they have this
25:15
Speaker 1: feature where, uh, you got the heat map right for
25:19
Speaker 1: the profiles of the different deer and then you can
25:22
Speaker 1: like break that down. Well, so my buddy, my buddy
25:27
Speaker 1: me and Ryan, you know, I don't know, it's like
25:30
Speaker 1: two fourteen when um I gave up my season to
25:33
Speaker 1: film the guy who filmed me for like five years,
25:36
Speaker 1: my buddy Ryan, right, and he we were chasing that
25:39
Speaker 1: giant called No Show Jones, and he had an encounter
25:43
Speaker 1: with him and he ended up missing the ended up
25:46
Speaker 1: missing the buck, you know, hit his auntler and didn't
25:49
Speaker 1: get didn't get an opportunity to kill him, but a deer. Yeah,
25:55
Speaker 1: So we're going into this one area and we're looking
25:58
Speaker 1: at show camera pictures and we're just like boom southeast wind,
26:02
Speaker 1: south wind, southwest wind, southeast wind, bingo southeast wind. So
26:07
Speaker 1: this one day we go in there, southeast wind. There
26:10
Speaker 1: he is, big buck and the deer are cruising this
26:13
Speaker 1: marsh all day long. So so now I know that, right,
26:16
Speaker 1: So I start entering in all these pictures into deer
26:19
Speaker 1: lab and I'm I'm seeing this this movement along this
26:24
Speaker 1: fence line, uh in this marsh for throughout different periods
26:29
Speaker 1: of the day, and I'm noticing a trend, right, I'm
26:32
Speaker 1: noticing that on south wind southeast winds they're coming up
26:36
Speaker 1: this draw where the southeast wind is blowing right up
26:40
Speaker 1: this draw. And I and that's when I realized that, Okay,
26:45
Speaker 1: if I'm just a little bit east of that and
26:47
Speaker 1: my wind is blowing parallel to that draw but not
26:50
Speaker 1: going down into it, all these deer are going to
26:53
Speaker 1: funnel through there, and that they did exactly that, And
26:56
Speaker 1: so now I have tree stands closer to this area
27:01
Speaker 1: where I'm where this main this main finger timber is
27:04
Speaker 1: button up against this draw, and I cannot wait to
27:07
Speaker 1: hunt it on the first north northeast wind. Now, what's
27:10
Speaker 1: your game plan? Are you gonna hunt that what time
27:13
Speaker 1: of season first time you get that wind? Or are
27:15
Speaker 1: you waiting? Nope, I'm gonna wait until um because the
27:19
Speaker 1: other cool thing about deer lab is that it gives
27:22
Speaker 1: you you know it. It has all the dates there
27:24
Speaker 1: for you as well. So I'm guessing somewhere all the
27:27
Speaker 1: daylight pictures for this particular fence crossing happened about oh
27:35
Speaker 1: the through October. That's when they start getting morning daylight pictures.
27:43
Speaker 1: So the first time I get a south southeast wind
27:49
Speaker 1: on October, I'm going to be in that stand nice
27:53
Speaker 1: I want to I want to make a public service
27:54
Speaker 1: announcement right here that both what you and I have
27:58
Speaker 1: just done here is we've taken gonna look at past
28:00
Speaker 1: year's trail camera pictures, annual patterns, and looking at those
28:04
Speaker 1: annual patterns and applying them to our plan for this year.
28:07
Speaker 1: And I think that's one I think for both of us.
28:09
Speaker 1: It sounds like this has been one of the big
28:11
Speaker 1: lessons we've been learning over the recent years, learning from
28:13
Speaker 1: some of these other guys we talked to. UM. So
28:16
Speaker 1: if you're listening right now and you're not thinking about
28:18
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, if your season had start yet,
28:20
Speaker 1: this is that time. Go back, look at those old pictures.
28:23
Speaker 1: Try to see some of these trends. Whether you just
28:25
Speaker 1: look at the pictures yourself, or put them into a
28:27
Speaker 1: tool like we've been doing UM, or map it out
28:30
Speaker 1: an Excel doc or something, look for those trends and
28:33
Speaker 1: figure out you know, because these dear do things for
28:36
Speaker 1: a reason, and many times that happens year after year. UM.
28:40
Speaker 1: Not always, it's not a rule, but UM, I think
28:43
Speaker 1: the more I look at it and pay attention to
28:45
Speaker 1: it and study it, the more I see these same
28:47
Speaker 1: similar types of patterns emerge. So so yeah, man, I
28:51
Speaker 1: think I think you're onto something there. Uh And and
28:55
Speaker 1: that's the same same thing with another piece of the property.
28:59
Speaker 1: I got, so long story short, I got my trail
29:02
Speaker 1: cameras kind of half of them situated to pinch points,
29:08
Speaker 1: finch crossings, more of a travel corridor where I'm gonna
29:11
Speaker 1: pick up not necessarily a ton of pictures, but the
29:15
Speaker 1: most important pictures So when a shooter is moving through
29:18
Speaker 1: this area at what time of year, that's the most important.
29:21
Speaker 1: Not when it's over a mineral site, not when it's
29:24
Speaker 1: over like a bait pile, because that really doesn't help
29:27
Speaker 1: me because I can't hunt over those anyway, right, So,
29:31
Speaker 1: so that that information doesn't doesn't mean anything to me.
29:35
Speaker 1: It's the finch crossings, it's the pinch points. It's getting
29:37
Speaker 1: them anywhere from October one to um right before a
29:41
Speaker 1: shotgun season, that period of time and those trail camera
29:44
Speaker 1: pictures are the most important pieces of data for me now.
29:49
Speaker 1: So I've I've made the transition from mineral stations to
29:53
Speaker 1: to those pinch points, fence crossings, travel corridors, blah blah
29:56
Speaker 1: blah um. Another thing that I did was so last
30:01
Speaker 1: at the beginning of last year, late last summer, I
30:03
Speaker 1: had access to I gained access to a new farm,
30:09
Speaker 1: um and I didn't put any trail camera pictures on
30:11
Speaker 1: it because it was late, So I just went out
30:13
Speaker 1: and hunted him. So I kind of for and this
30:16
Speaker 1: was a piece of property that was closer to where
30:19
Speaker 1: I live, like ten fifty minute drive now my buddies farm.
30:24
Speaker 1: I told you two shooters, right, to him to deer
30:27
Speaker 1: that were close to booner. I ended up missing. I
30:29
Speaker 1: ended up missing one. We have to have. I need
30:31
Speaker 1: a name for that one. His name is the Bam Bam. Well, okay,
30:34
Speaker 1: I meant the farm, but the booner is the Bam Bam,
30:38
Speaker 1: the booner that I missed. His name's Bam Bam and
30:40
Speaker 1: that was the name give him to him by the
30:41
Speaker 1: landowner because he runs trail cameras too. He doesn't hunt,
30:44
Speaker 1: He just likes run trail cameras. Right, So I'm up
30:48
Speaker 1: there one day, right, he comes through, he comes up
30:51
Speaker 1: this draw. I called my buddy, and he's in the
30:54
Speaker 1: house and he looks out his window. He sees him,
30:57
Speaker 1: and then I said, I'm While I'm on the phone
30:59
Speaker 1: with him, I say, clap your hands. So he claps
31:02
Speaker 1: his hands. Did you look up? They don't run because
31:05
Speaker 1: they're used to people up there, so they slowly start
31:07
Speaker 1: making their way back down. He's following the dough and
31:11
Speaker 1: I'm and I draw back. Long story short, miss him high. Well.
31:15
Speaker 1: I continue to get pictures of him until about the
31:18
Speaker 1: shotgun season, and then I lose him. Right, no more
31:22
Speaker 1: pictures of this buck at all after that then two
31:28
Speaker 1: or earlier this week, I go out sometime last week
31:33
Speaker 1: or if I don't even know, I can't even keep
31:35
Speaker 1: track of my own asks. I feel like I'm about
31:37
Speaker 1: to hear some great news right now. Right, guess who
31:40
Speaker 1: shows up on trail camera one, like one mile northwest
31:45
Speaker 1: up the same Crieck system on this farm that I
31:47
Speaker 1: have access to. Bam bam, bam bam on the different farm,
31:52
Speaker 1: the other farm. But it's the same Crieck system, right,
31:56
Speaker 1: It's crazy. So these deer are running there, running this
31:59
Speaker 1: the same aim exact cricks creeck system, right, and it's
32:03
Speaker 1: kind of all downhill. It's a giant pinch point right now,
32:08
Speaker 1: it's all it's all you know, it's all downhill. They
32:13
Speaker 1: run this, this Crieck system. My buddy's property is like
32:16
Speaker 1: the mecca of pinch points, right right down at the
32:18
Speaker 1: bottom of where he lives. Now, this other property where
32:23
Speaker 1: I got pictures of him, I also pulled out one, two,
32:29
Speaker 1: three other shooters and and and that's shooters based off
32:33
Speaker 1: age class right, So so bam bam, I got a
32:37
Speaker 1: couple of pictures of him, so I know he's alive.
32:40
Speaker 1: So I know that mid to late October, I'm not
32:43
Speaker 1: going to touch my buddy's property and probably until mid
32:45
Speaker 1: to late October. Guess what. Guess who has a food
32:48
Speaker 1: plot at my buddies property. This guy. So now after
32:53
Speaker 1: the first frost and as the deer start maybe hitting
32:57
Speaker 1: that property, I'm gonna run trail cameras until i see
33:01
Speaker 1: any type of buck activity on that property. Meanwhile, I'm
33:06
Speaker 1: going to be hunting and putting pressure on the property
33:10
Speaker 1: to the north of there. So if I do push
33:14
Speaker 1: the deer somewhere that there, it's gonna push him south
33:17
Speaker 1: down that drainage into my buddy's property. That's nice to
33:21
Speaker 1: have those two spots like that where you can, you know,
33:23
Speaker 1: you can be in his wheelhouse maybe on property number
33:25
Speaker 1: one without being too word because you know, worst case scenario,
33:29
Speaker 1: if you happen to bump some deer, they very well
33:32
Speaker 1: might move down towards your honey hole. Right, And that's
33:35
Speaker 1: the thing, like I'm gonna do early season hunting in
33:39
Speaker 1: observation stands over top of this being over top of
33:43
Speaker 1: this bean field, and to be I'm gonna be honest
33:45
Speaker 1: with you, I might go in there on wrong winds
33:49
Speaker 1: just just to bump him south because if I if
33:54
Speaker 1: I know, if I know that he is in this
33:57
Speaker 1: area early October, guess where I know he's gonna be
34:01
Speaker 1: in mid October till late October, early November. He's gonna
34:06
Speaker 1: be running around, running that same pinch point between all
34:09
Speaker 1: these properties on my buddies, on my buddies farm. So pushing,
34:13
Speaker 1: you know, putting pressure in one specific area and maybe observing, observing.
34:17
Speaker 1: Oh hey, I saw him at three yards. Okay, um,
34:21
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna move in to try to kill him. Okay,
34:25
Speaker 1: I didn't kill him, I spooked him. Guess where he's going,
34:29
Speaker 1: hopefully right down there to where you'll be. Yep, that's
34:32
Speaker 1: that's that's my that's that's a really aggressive tactic. Um.
34:36
Speaker 1: So the good thing is is I have shooters up north,
34:42
Speaker 1: and I have shooters down on my main farm. Although
34:44
Speaker 1: I would like to kill, you know, if if I
34:46
Speaker 1: had my choice, I would want to kill a buck
34:48
Speaker 1: that I had some kind of history with, like Tupac,
34:51
Speaker 1: that that big ten I have that's running around. But
34:55
Speaker 1: a shooter is a shooter is a shooter, you know
34:56
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's the question that we have
34:58
Speaker 1: that I want to get to hear. So you've got
35:00
Speaker 1: you've got Bam Bam, You've got Tupac who you have
35:03
Speaker 1: like forever years of history with. You've got Gordon Bombay
35:07
Speaker 1: back this year, right. Uh? And god knows how many
35:10
Speaker 1: other great bucks on trail cameras. I can't even keep
35:13
Speaker 1: straight in my head. All these great bucks are out there, Dan,
35:17
Speaker 1: But you haven't got an arrow in one for a
35:20
Speaker 1: number of years. And you've talked about how you're feeling
35:22
Speaker 1: some pressure. So the season opens up in ten days.
35:26
Speaker 1: What's your decision right now? Where are you at on
35:28
Speaker 1: the shooter not shoot decisions scale for two thousand and
35:32
Speaker 1: sixteen four year old Again, it's a four year old.
35:35
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a four year old. Um. I
35:38
Speaker 1: got one like seven different seven eight different deer that
35:44
Speaker 1: I have put on a hit list that are at
35:47
Speaker 1: the age class of four year old or older, and
35:51
Speaker 1: I will pull the bow back on the first four
35:54
Speaker 1: year old that walks in front of me. I think
35:57
Speaker 1: that sounds like a good plan. Yeah, and Act says
36:00
Speaker 1: I'm taking risks this year. I'm walking creect systems, I'm
36:03
Speaker 1: buying hip waiters, I'm I'm knocking on different doors to
36:07
Speaker 1: try to gain access through. You know, hey, can I
36:09
Speaker 1: can I just park my car here, my truck here
36:12
Speaker 1: so I can walk the correct into the place that
36:14
Speaker 1: I hunt, you know, if I have to get wet,
36:17
Speaker 1: if you know, I'm to the point now where I
36:19
Speaker 1: figured this farm out enough to where I know that
36:22
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fffing things up driving through the farm on
36:26
Speaker 1: a morning hunt, I'm pushing everything away from me driving
36:31
Speaker 1: my truck back there. To get down there, I have
36:33
Speaker 1: to come in through an opposite direction. So then I'm
36:36
Speaker 1: relying on the other hunters doing what I'm doing. But
36:41
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm in between where they're coming in from
36:45
Speaker 1: and where they need to go. So you're just waiting
36:48
Speaker 1: an ambush, right if like, hopefully that works right? Knock
36:54
Speaker 1: on what you know? You can only ever figure so
36:58
Speaker 1: much and then you have to kind of leave it
37:00
Speaker 1: into fate's hands and hope it all works out that
37:02
Speaker 1: way we wanted to. But man, sounds like plans are
37:04
Speaker 1: coming together. Well, I don't want to. I'm not gonna
37:06
Speaker 1: say it, Dan, Well, I'm not. Well, I don't say
37:12
Speaker 1: it because last year you said this is your year,
37:15
Speaker 1: and you know you can be you can part of
37:20
Speaker 1: being a good hunter is sealing the deal when the
37:23
Speaker 1: opportunity meets the hard work, right. So when the you know,
37:31
Speaker 1: that is the part that I have to finish. I
37:33
Speaker 1: have to put the period at the end of the
37:34
Speaker 1: sense I can get in position. And I've been doing
37:36
Speaker 1: that for a number of years. But it's you know,
37:40
Speaker 1: bad shots. Tupac should have been dead in two thousand
37:43
Speaker 1: and thirteen as a four year old. Right now he's
37:46
Speaker 1: uh whatever, he's a years old or something. So you know,
37:52
Speaker 1: if I can get him now, that would be awesome,
37:54
Speaker 1: good story. If I can get any four year old,
37:58
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I don't care. If it's a
38:00
Speaker 1: hund four year old, it's getting an arrow at it.
38:03
Speaker 1: If it's inside you know my shooting range, well, I
38:06
Speaker 1: won't say it's your year. I'm just gonna say you're
38:09
Speaker 1: do and you deserve it. And I got my fingers
38:11
Speaker 1: crossed for you. Hey, take that back. Nobody here's and
38:16
Speaker 1: here's my opinion. Nobody deserves anything. You have to work
38:20
Speaker 1: for it. Nobody deserves You know, there's guys out there
38:22
Speaker 1: who have hunted hard, just like me, out in public, ground,
38:28
Speaker 1: out in you know, that are doing the same thing
38:30
Speaker 1: that me and you are doing, and they've struck out
38:32
Speaker 1: several years and they're getting frustrated and and there one
38:35
Speaker 1: you know they're going to do. It's your year, You're
38:37
Speaker 1: do You know you deserve it, You don't deserve it.
38:41
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta work. This is like we said,
38:43
Speaker 1: this is a chess match, man, this is this is
38:47
Speaker 1: you're trying to take an animal's life, and that life,
38:49
Speaker 1: that animal knows it, and he is trying to avoid you,
38:52
Speaker 1: and you have to beat him at his own game. Sorry,
38:55
Speaker 1: that's me. That's me like getting fired up. I won't
38:58
Speaker 1: argue with you on that. Sorry, I got really fired
39:02
Speaker 1: up there. All I will say is that I believe
39:06
Speaker 1: in you. That's all I'll say that. I believe in you.
39:10
Speaker 1: You put in the work, and I'm excited to see
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Speaker 1: how these coming weeks come, come out, steps out for you.
39:18
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm stoked about that. That's ten days away
39:21
Speaker 1: and four days from now, I go down to Ohio
39:23
Speaker 1: for opening weekend. And I don't have his high hopes
39:26
Speaker 1: for that. It's gonna be like high eighties, super hot.
39:29
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go down there for two quick days.
39:31
Speaker 1: Check cameras observation stands in the evening and um, and
39:36
Speaker 1: then we probably won't go back till like late October
39:39
Speaker 1: or November. We're gonna leave it alone. So this is
39:41
Speaker 1: just like kind of intel visit really fast and quick
39:45
Speaker 1: and then um, you know, like every year, I'll kind
39:48
Speaker 1: of watch the weather and see if something really gives
39:50
Speaker 1: me a reason to go down there. But this season
39:52
Speaker 1: is upon us. Man, um, all right, real quick before
39:55
Speaker 1: we go. It sounds like, for you a successful season,
39:59
Speaker 1: you know, I know we always talked about the success
40:02
Speaker 1: is different than killing a deer, etcetera, etcetera. But let's
40:05
Speaker 1: just focus on actually killing part of hunting. Sounds like,
40:09
Speaker 1: for you, kill a four year old buck and you
40:12
Speaker 1: are happy camper. Yeah. Amen, Alright, My goal for the
40:15
Speaker 1: season is to kill holy Field in Michigan and then
40:20
Speaker 1: a four year four year old in Ohio. If I
40:23
Speaker 1: can do one of those two things, I'd love to
40:25
Speaker 1: do both. But if either one of those come together,
40:28
Speaker 1: that's that's a super exciting, awesome season as far as
40:31
Speaker 1: I'm concerned. On top of the fact that I was
40:33
Speaker 1: able to pull off my goal in Montana, so what
40:36
Speaker 1: real quick, real quick, and I know we gotta go.
40:38
Speaker 1: I'll make this fast So my wife had a conversation
40:42
Speaker 1: with me the other day, and in this conversation, she
40:45
Speaker 1: expressed interest in me killing more does so we could
40:52
Speaker 1: have more meat to take to the processor for deer
40:55
Speaker 1: sticks and dear jerky that she likes. Heck, so now
41:00
Speaker 1: with her wanting these things, she's it's like, yeah, I
41:04
Speaker 1: don't care go out and hunt. I just want you to,
41:06
Speaker 1: you know, you know, take a deer of the processor
41:09
Speaker 1: and make some jerky because I really like it. So
41:11
Speaker 1: my wife is now a little bit like in tune
41:14
Speaker 1: with what I'm trying to get at, and that's the
41:17
Speaker 1: first for me. I'm really excited about it. So, like
41:20
Speaker 1: the first two three weeks of October, I have three
41:23
Speaker 1: dough tags in two different counties, and I am going
41:26
Speaker 1: to kill my goals to try to kill three does.
41:30
Speaker 1: And I don't give a shit if I have one
41:32
Speaker 1: pounds of deer sticks in my freezer. I'm gonna I'm
41:36
Speaker 1: getting deer sticks from my wife this year. That's awesome, dude,
41:39
Speaker 1: I love it. But I want to tell you one thing.
41:41
Speaker 1: You've got to stretch those dough tags over the whole
41:44
Speaker 1: season so that even in the middle of November you
41:46
Speaker 1: can be telling her, well, honey, I have to hunt
41:48
Speaker 1: all day for the next ten days because I get
41:49
Speaker 1: to get those deer sticks for you. So states She
41:54
Speaker 1: also says to me, so you know, I told her
41:57
Speaker 1: I got three dough tags, and she says, yeah, so
42:01
Speaker 1: you can, you know, so you can get some beer
42:02
Speaker 1: sticks this year. I'm like yeah, And she's like, I
42:04
Speaker 1: also want you to kill a big buck this year,
42:06
Speaker 1: and and I didn't even know what to say. I
42:10
Speaker 1: was just like, yes, yes, yes, I will. Did a tear?
42:13
Speaker 1: Did a tear come running out of your eye at
42:15
Speaker 1: that point? No, because I know that about four days
42:19
Speaker 1: into the November rut, she's gonna be want my ass back.
42:22
Speaker 1: Hold We'll enjoy the dream now, I guess right? Right? Amen?
42:28
Speaker 1: Alright dude, Well, with that, we're gonna to shut this
42:30
Speaker 1: one down a little bit early, but thank you all
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Speaker 1: for joining us. Stay for these quick updates, and stay
42:36
Speaker 1: tuned for a lot more in the coming days and weeks.
42:39
Speaker 1: We've got some great episodes lined up for you, both
42:41
Speaker 1: on this podcast and Wild Podcast, and I'm also publishing
42:46
Speaker 1: new journal entries on the blog after every hunt, so
42:48
Speaker 1: be sure to check those out. And we'll have video
42:50
Speaker 1: of my Montana Hunt up on YouTube here shortly too,
42:53
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42:56
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42:59
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43:13
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