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- 0:00welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:07Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:13Things nerdy good morning gentlemen how are we
- 0:19today good morning quite well quite well it's early I say morning because it is
- 0:24morning for you Matt that's right it is happy happy New Year Dan yeah look I'm
- 0:30fine it's not it's not morning but uh you know you can still wish me a good
- 0:34morning it is Luna New Year uh it certainly is year of the Rat starting today
- 0:39so all the mes rat you want to say that the same thing in China sneaky sneaky
- 0:45devious year is it um I think we're all going to get the plague I think that's
- 0:51oh does seem to be going that way yeah so far does it so far all signs point to
- 0:55the plague Jesus yeah you heard of Corona virus oh yeah yeah yeah they shut
- 1:02down Shanghai Disney they shut down [ __ ] that's Luke's Gage for when
- 1:08disease is bad but they shut down they shut down Hong Kong Disney yesterday too
- 1:14[ __ ] hell oh God yeah they did I mean the virus uh apparently has made it to
- 1:19the US and I was just in Texas uh where it is so um I think four people in
- 1:26Sydney have been diagnosed I think we have four in Singapore po as well jeez
- 1:31it's not competition guys no comp definely out there it's the worst beer
- 1:35and not a very good virus I don't think it's the worst beer
- 1:41but but I'll give you that I'll give you that joke you're right you're right but
- 1:44I have literally no interest in drinking
- 1:49it I finally worked out what type of beer I like okay oh yeah I like ler knew
- 1:54knew yeah yeah yeah so finally worked it out so do I yeah yeah like lger as well
- 2:00all your ipas and stuff you can you can keep just give me a lger a Pilsner yeah
- 2:06everyone's drinking sour sour a lot of The Craft bees are all
- 2:11ipas and pale ALS and stuff and that's why I don't like craft bees that's why I
- 2:15don't go in for it too for sure but I have to have some delicious craft
- 2:19loggers oh man yeah what I found out is normally the logger all the countries there's like
- 2:25the working man's lger like Australia's Got VB yeah yeah um there's tiger
- 2:32there's yeah there's beer I like I'm a man of the people I got tiger my now
- 2:37that's my that's my go-to Sam Adams Bost ler delicious it's delicious it is and I
- 2:43if you're ever over there I recommend going on the tour oh
- 2:47yeah two bucks never done it I got to do it two two bucks it's two bucks and you
- 2:53get they take you around you get a taste of beer you get a glass it's really it's
- 2:57so worth it wow wellow I mean if you know a be is n bucks so you
- 3:04know he brought out jugs of the stuff not here it's not nine bucks so yeah
- 3:10well Fair Sam Adams is about probably about five okay mate I remember when
- 3:15beer used to be like $2 to $3 When We Were Young those were the days yeah but
- 3:20no remember what it worked out about the same price though you take into account
- 3:25price our dollar sucks at the moment just throwing that out there does suck
- 3:30so does that mean I should take all my Australian money and change it to
- 3:34Singapore money or the other way I never understand how this shits oh that's a
- 3:38good question um I don't know cuz if the Australian dollar is lower question that
- 3:43this is not the forum for no no not that type of podcast for all you people out
- 3:48there who are saying isn't the answer obvious it's not obvious no was I can
- 3:53buy more Australian dollars now than I normally can so should I just buy heaps
- 3:57of Australian dollars and wait for it to inflate or is it buying a currency that
- 4:01isn't very good I think it depends on how much you actually have cuz don't
- 4:07forget there a conversion you have to pay to convert it do you remember the
- 4:12the Dan the first time we came to America M I think we were dollar for
- 4:17dollar with the US when I went with we were a dollar four oh we lived like
- 4:22kings it's great yeah cuz it was like everything here is like if you just look
- 4:29at the price everything here is cheaper than it is in Australia and so for a
- 4:35dollar to be worth the same it was like [ __ ] hell like I remember we went we
- 4:40went to a bar in New York to play board games we were there
- 4:44like a long time we never didn't have a drink in our hand we had lunch and for
- 4:50the tour of us was like I think 50 bucks or something oh yeah I mean I guess it
- 4:54still would be it's just that I don't that's just how much things cost so I'm
- 4:58used to it well not was $50 AUST stray oh sure sure sure I know I see what you
- 5:02you're saying yeah like I was yeah talking about how good yeah it's still I
- 5:07don't prices over there still they just need to have tax on them have you gotten
- 5:12used to that yet no no still shits me off so you still have the the he's it's
- 5:17$1 1999 you hand over 20 yeah I bought something the other day it was uh it was
- 5:22supposed to be 10 bucks and I got up and then it was you know 11 something I was
- 5:26like oh [ __ ] that's right you need to know how much the government's taking off
- 5:32you yeah look guys um the last couple of weeks um we've we've opened the show
- 5:38with a bit of Dick news so I had I had some dick news a couple of weeks ago uh
- 5:43Luke had some dick news last week and um Matt we've discussed it and we think
- 5:48it's your turn to um to give us some dick news so just go ahead you got for
- 5:52us go ahead and play the dick news [Music]
- 5:56jingle dick it's dick news
- 6:00okay what do you got dick news I mean you've been on the holidays right you
- 6:05didn't use your dick while you were on holidays I mean there's nothing wrong
- 6:10with it as far as I can tell uh you say there's something wrong with my dick I
- 6:14wellow I mean no I'm not the one getting a camera you know inserted into mine
- 6:20there will be something wrong with it after they do that yeah exactly I mean
- 6:23I've had no complaints about it bruised from the inside do you normally get
- 6:27complaints about it oh I've had complaints in the past yeah you know but
- 6:32uh [ __ ] TN me in half I I just for them onto the relevant department and uh
- 6:39yeah and go about my business but dick news let's see uh I mean I mean it could
- 6:45be vagina news M I don't want to you know I don't want to want to put words
- 6:49in your mouth I've got to say you've put me on the spot here guys
- 6:54uh although I should have predicted this I suppose given the given the last two
- 6:58episodes I will have more dick news in two weeks time after I go through the
- 7:03procedure but gives us a free week next week so listeners if you've got dick
- 7:07news and you'd like us to share your dick news uh with the rest of the
- 7:11listeners right in we're podcast at multipl nerdgasm Doom they know do com
- 7:16everything's do I it's never
- 7:20not. yeah we might beorg oh actually yeah he's got us there it is oh yeah
- 7:26we're an organization they do have uh yeah we're
- 7:31yeah education definitely nonprofit but not for the normal usage of that term
- 7:38definitely not for profit no spend a lot of money on this something that we've
- 7:43discussed a long time ago and actually I think I think I wrote an article about
- 7:48this back when we used to write articles on the website for listeners wow that's
- 7:53a long time ago yeah for listeners who don't know uh before there was a podcast
- 7:57there was just multipl nerdgasm tocom and it was a WordPress blog where we
- 8:02wrote a bunch of [ __ ] uh and some of those
- 8:08articles some of those articles might still be on there I don't think so
- 8:13though I think maybe I archived them what that would be what 7 years ago that
- 8:18would be 2011 no before 2011 because we started the podcast when we got back from
- 8:25America in 2011 so I reckon 2010 believe in 2009 we started the
- 8:31website it's 2020 now yeah so maybe over
- 8:36I mean I'd say about 10 years oh God doing this we've been doing this [ __ ] in
- 8:41some form yeah but what I'm talking about is the old debate about physical
- 8:48copies of [ __ ] that you own versus digital copies of [ __ ] that you don't
- 8:53own uh and I in the in the years since I wrote that article have pretty heavily
- 8:58embraced the the digital uh side of things I don't buy a lot of physical
- 9:04media of any kind I went digital a few years ago myself yeah but
- 9:10recently some stuff has come up uh for me and also you know for other people on
- 9:16the internet I mean I'm affected by one of these examples I'm about to give from
- 9:19this article and also I got an example of my own where it's just really
- 9:24apparent that you don't own this [ __ ] like these digital copies of of games
- 9:28you don't own them like they can take they can take them away from you at any
- 9:32time and they will the tetris company who make Tetris obviously uh have signed
- 9:38a multi-year agreement with a developer and so if you
- 9:43own the Tetris game on iOS that you know that that's been out since 2011 and I
- 9:50purchased it cuz I like Tetris they're going to be removing that
- 9:54from your phone what because the agreement with Electronic Arts uh has is
- 10:00no longer valid and so they're taking the game away you can't have it
- 10:05anymore so it's not like cuz I know sometimes they'll do the thing where
- 10:09they'll take you can't buy it anymore but you could still go into your history
- 10:13and download it no this says even if you've purchased it before it's going
- 10:18away and this is also I mean this happens this is a little different but
- 10:24you know when they upgrade like iOS and everything like that and if if a
- 10:28developers abandoned the game it just won't work anymore that happens quite a
- 10:32lot that pisses me off but it disappearing off your system is I mean
- 10:36that's the equivalent of you having Tetris on the Game Boy and them sending
- 10:40some goons around to your house yes take the cart away the cartridge yeah and
- 10:45then the other the other example I had recently this is is a more convoluted
- 10:49weird one right right so uh and stop me if I talked about this already but uh
- 10:54Google right I have I've had I'm familiar with Google I've had a Google
- 10:58account for quite a long time actually I have I have already told you guys about
- 11:02this off air a little bit mhm so uh all our multiple nerd GM email and
- 11:09stuff is on Google uh Gite and I so
- 11:16sweet they were sweet my Google account
- 11:20is is Australian or you know I've been using it I used it in Australia that's
- 11:25where I created it I'm Google there you going and I've been trying to for a
- 11:31little while figure out how the [ __ ] to change it to be a us one CU I can't buy
- 11:35stuff anymore uh because it gives me the US store but I can't buy anything on
- 11:40there because all my payment stuff's Australian and none of that stuff's
- 11:43valid anymore so anyway I went through this whole stupid
- 11:46procedure with them like on on phone support and and trying to get them to
- 11:51help me out apparently you're supposed to be able to change the country I just
- 11:54did not have that option and it came down to just the other week this uh this
- 11:58lady from from Google support telling me you've got to delete I had to delete my
- 12:02payment profile my Australian one and then it would allow me to create a us
- 12:07one but when I did that all my stuff disappears and it's gone
- 12:12forever and it was going to be gone forever and I was like oh wait there has
- 12:17to be a better option no but she told me this so nonchalantly she's like all
- 12:20right just delete the payment profile and and it popped up and it said you
- 12:22will lose your Google Drive you lose your Google like Play movie and game
- 12:27Android app purchases all this I've spent quite a lot of money on there over
- 12:30the years yeah it's all going to go away and I said oh say is going to go and she
- 12:34goes oh yeah it will I'm like you didn't think to mention that what if I without
- 12:37reading it but when I sign it Up Get Right Out of This call no she said if
- 12:43you read the terms and conditions that's how it works if you change country it
- 12:47goes away and I was like and I said to her I'm like I want to complain about it
- 12:50but I guess there's no point is there and she was like no not really
- 12:55okay but then get this right I I was like well well [ __ ] it I don't have a
- 13:00choice do I if I'm if I'm ever going to use it I have to change it and it's
- 13:04better to do it now than than just sit on it and make it even more painful in a
- 13:08few years so I was like all right so I just did it and then it just moved all
- 13:13my stuff over to a US account now so after all that drama so it did actually
- 13:17work that's what I'm saying but but it just are you sure you got everything cuz
- 13:22there might because it also I got an email that says oh it'll be deleted
- 13:25permanently in 30 days so I kind of I guess I'm kind of in limbo now but it
- 13:27just made me think [ __ ] [ __ ] all this digital stuff this is this is [ __ ]
- 13:33yeah just get we we have and we haven't had it yet but there will be a day one
- 13:38of these big digital stores is going to go out of business and yeah everything's
- 13:44just going to go well actually it's scary isn't Microsoft shutting down some
- 13:49movie thing I read that the other day all some some Microsoft movie things
- 13:54going away and what mean I just paid something today for it I don't know if
- 13:57it's the Xbox one but this I don't know I mean this is happening all the time
- 14:00now it just makes me think I need to stop buying digital stuff I need to buy
- 14:03a physical copy no man you you got to you got it wrong don't stop you no you
- 14:10do stop buying the digital stuff and you don't buy physical copies you just get
- 14:15everything from The Pirate Bay all right that's I'm immune to all of this [ __ ]
- 14:22guys but no what really needs to happen is I don't know there needs to be a way
- 14:27that you you buy you can buy a license from a different thing but then you have
- 14:32that license to use anywhere if that makes sense yeah yeah that's never going
- 14:37to happen yeah everyone needs to work together and needs to be a whole world
- 14:41happy and I can buy Google will sell me the license and that'll go to this
- 14:44person that person that person but I can use that anywhere well you can do that
- 14:48with here with movies anywhere to be fair if I buy a movie and not all
- 14:53Studios allow this but if I buy say I buy Guardians of the Galaxy on Google or
- 14:59iTunes it'll sync through this Movies Anywhere thing which I'm pretty sure is
- 15:03owned by Disney uh and I I have that movie I mean chances
- 15:09are yeah statistically odds are pretty good I mean I know nothing about it but
- 15:13chances are at some level it's owned by Disney uh it will I I I will own that
- 15:19movie on most platforms like Amazon uh no not Microsoft anymore Microsoft
- 15:25aren't part of it but Google iTunes but that's how it should work yeah yeah it's
- 15:30convoluted but it works but it's pretty convoluted or if you buy a a Blu-ray
- 15:35here sometimes you can get one that comes with like a digital copy as
- 15:41well but I don't know this just this [ __ ] just annoys me yeah because I'm too
- 15:45lazy to put a disc in these days I've got all these old say like DS and Game
- 15:50Boy games that you know like the next couple of generations of consoles would
- 15:54continue to play them whereas now I'm like what's going to happen with these
- 15:57switch games if like you know on or even my
- 16:02XBox if you know the new Xbox I know they've said it's going to be backwards
- 16:06compatible but what if what if they decide not to make it backwards
- 16:08compatible at some point just all my games go away yeah but how often do you
- 16:13go back to games from a previous console anyway well I'm actually doing that at
- 16:17the moment I'm actually going out and I'm tracking down old copies of PC games
- 16:22with games for Window Live yeah so like
- 16:27Fable dirt two so trying to track down all these old games so I can try and get
- 16:31achievements on them um some of them I've gotten to work others I have not
- 16:37because the Xbox Live the games of Windows Live service that stopped in
- 16:432013 so it actually depends on it during the install and in load up process when
- 16:49it tries to contact the server all right so I've got some that don't try and
- 16:55contact it at all some but one tries to contact to verify before it even
- 17:01launches the game and so because it can't reach it just goes n not turning
- 17:06on cop protection that uh wasn't there an Assassin's Creed game that had some
- 17:10copy protection and then the servers they shut him down and then the game
- 17:14just stopped working I so like I own a copy of it I'm talking like I got a copy
- 17:19of Dead Rising 2 brand new sealed and I cannot play it that's the
- 17:24thing though right I don't think you do own it I think and even you know what
- 17:28maybe owning a physical copy of this stuff isn't going to help cuz yeah you
- 17:32don't own those will come to your house man well even when you were buying
- 17:36physical copies you're still just buying the license yeah you can just they can
- 17:41just brick your machine if they if they like no you got to buy it again [ __ ]
- 17:46come and Breck my VHS player from the 80s I did yeah
- 17:50exactly it's so funny too I know we've talked about this before as well but
- 17:53they talk about how like oh it's because of piracy and stuff that they make all
- 17:57these convoluted system systems but like
- 18:01take films for example before DVD you didn't have that Revenue source so
- 18:08you're not losing anything like you you you've gained this massive source of
- 18:12Revenue and then and then like you're like oh we got to Pirates are stealing
- 18:15it all but you didn't even have it before so I don't know it's just such a
- 18:18weird stupid argument like people weren't buying VHS tapes Left Right
- 18:22Center like they are DVDs or Blu-ray or digital now so I just
- 18:29remember when like in Australia they go on about how we're the worst pirat is
- 18:32and all this and then they finally just released streaming services and we all
- 18:36and we could all stopped well except for Game of Thrones
- 18:40stopped everyone was pting Game of Thrones cuz that wasn't available yeah
- 18:45the second you make everything available in a sensible price people would just do
- 18:49that you make it expensive and difficult yeah life finds a
- 18:57way yeah well anyway so now I've just this this past week I've gotten pissed off
- 19:04about this whole digital thing again and uh I don't know I'm probably just going
- 19:09to keep going on as usual it just made me think about it again yeah I what the
- 19:14Google thing and then the and then this article think about it but then you
- 19:17remember how terrible it is to have to get up and change the disc every time
- 19:20you want to do something I've got one switch game that's on a cartridge and
- 19:23that's breath of the wild and that just lives in the switch and then I buy the
- 19:27rest digital and if I ever bought another switch game that with needed a cartridge
- 19:31I would know i' be [ __ ] I know I got to carry another cartridge with me as well
- 19:35well you can't buy you can't buy Xbox games here in Singapore everyone just
- 19:40uses the digital store so oh really I've had no choice but to just completely
- 19:45completely switch over I mean I haven't bought honest I haven't bought a
- 19:49physical Xbox game in years yeah and I've got a bunch of them still in the
- 19:52draw here and I'm kind of almost annoyed that I do you know what I mean i' I'd
- 19:57rather everything just be digital or none of it yeah the convenience factor
- 20:01has certainly so we really rolled over my previous uh the last time I got
- 20:06worried about this stuff convenience basically just wiped it out and I well
- 20:10do you remember when we when this first came out it wasn't even games it was
- 20:13[ __ ] music and we were like there's no way I'm going to not buy CD albums
- 20:16anymore like [ __ ] that man I want a bunch of CDs in my house now I just have
- 20:21Spotify and I'm like [ __ ] whatever yeah and that's very rare you actually
- 20:26listen to an album anymore m I still do listen to albums but I mean they're
- 20:32essentially free you're subscriber to Spotify
- 20:37yeah yeah now the money made by the people making the music is in the toilet
- 20:43so yeah yeah yeah wonderful has lowered the bar for entry though in a in a in a
- 20:50kind of neat way so both good and bad
- 20:53but you know mhm the good stuff a lot of
- 20:57good Stu Dem isn't it yeah yeah good stuff still floats to the Top If if it's
- 21:02given a chance which yeah well I mean you've got the choice anyway right I
- 21:07mean Spotify knows me pretty well I rarely have it play me a song that I don't like
- 21:13yeah sometimes sometimes I get a weird recommendation I'm like what are you
- 21:19doing chance the one that pisses me actually Jenny gets more pissed off
- 21:23about this I she gets really pissed off is when uh cuz we have uh I'm going to
- 21:28say the name and it's going to do something we have Alexa
- 21:33uh she woke up even on that wow yeah um she probably knows when you're thinking
- 21:40about her it's not even you don't even have to say it sorry it it let's not
- 21:44call it yeah but you'll ask it to play a
- 21:48song like a specific song and it and it'll go can't find that one and I'm
- 21:53like [ __ ] off you were just playing it and then even we did an experiment where
- 21:57you manually put us on and then you just say hey play this song the one that's
- 22:02already playing and it's like ah it's not familiar with that song sorry it's like [ __ ]
- 22:08you maybe she just doesn't like that one like she exactly the song like the the
- 22:15artist and the song name oh that doesn't exist mate just doesn't exist you're
- 22:19playing it right now you silly [ __ ] have you asked her what the song is
- 22:24playing yeah and she'll say yeah it's exactly what you just said and what I
- 22:28just rep it back to you but uh there's just some disconnect there don't know I
- 22:32do find that with things that are voice activated and I don't have a smart home
- 22:35but I do have you know a TV that I can use voice commands on but I have to put
- 22:39on an American accent if I want anything to actually happen they are getting
- 22:44better but man they really used to hate my accent yeah Alexa can you understand
- 22:50my accent I do my best to understand everything I can I'm always learning
- 22:57always listening as well H is that what she said no no she said
- 23:04oh did you could you not hear her no no no she said Matthew I am always
- 23:07listening to you always learning is what she said but I know what she meant I
- 23:10know what she meant yeah yeah constantly learning she in a robot voice but it is
- 23:17just a woman in uh in Ohio working for
- 23:23Amazon uh so I mean speaking of streaming services and whatnot uh we've
- 23:29some news this week about uh about the creators or creators the the showrunners
- 23:35of Game of Thrones is that that's that's these guys yeah so I mean we we
- 23:41discussed Benny off and Weiss a few weeks ago because they had a Star Wars
- 23:46Trilogy that they no longer have and you know we all suspected that the reason
- 23:51was because you know they made a [ __ ] final season of Game of Thrones and so
- 23:55they got fired and apparently that's the case but the I story was that they left
- 24:01the Star Wars project because they were going to focus on their Netflix project
- 24:06um but that's gone now so so now they're going to go back to Star Wars cuz that's
- 24:10the only reason they quit sucks to be them man you can be on top can't you in
- 24:16Hollywood and then just on the bottom
- 24:19yeah I will say given the the the I guess controversy about the last season
- 24:26of Game of Thrones and then if you read the synopsis for this show that they
- 24:30were going to make you mean the show about wouldn't it be great if uh the
- 24:35South had won the Civil War and we could still have slaves today you mean that
- 24:39that premise I'm like I'm like well yeah I guess I'm I'm almost morbidly
- 24:44interested to see what that would end up like What actors of color would agree to
- 24:49be in this but isn't this just sort of like another version like man in the
- 24:53High Castle maybe well yes it was sort of I suppose yeah just another alternate
- 25:00history type of thing yeah but in man in the High Castle it's also kind of
- 25:05Science Fiction and they know it's not they're not in the real world and
- 25:09they're trying to get back to the real world whereas in this it's just like you
- 25:13know it would be great we all still had slaves I don't know maybe maybe there
- 25:19was more to it than that also I I think this the I mean this whole it's called
- 25:23supposed to be called Confederate and and this whole thing is much well I
- 25:28guess Nazis are a hot button issue too but this this is here in the US yeah
- 25:33here in the US this is a very touch put up a poster for it it's too close to
- 25:38home I think yeah for well you're not going to get it so no no like it's not
- 25:45happening they're not going to make it so there you go I mean I I like we
- 25:49somewhat distanced as Australians from this but it's a very big you know it's
- 25:53still a raw nerve here obviously for obvious reasons so well as it should be
- 25:59in a way yeah I mean yeah but uh yeah I guess we guess we won't get to see what
- 26:04this Fant IDE is going to no you won't you know what else we might not get to
- 26:09see though is we might not get the Obi-Wan series that they constantly
- 26:13promise US is coming well yeah evidently with this they were getting ready to
- 26:18start filming and then just sent everyone home yeah well everyone said
- 26:22that his hair was getting much more Obi-Wan like beard going in nicely they said
- 26:29indefinitely as well although I did see someone asked Yan McGregor about it and
- 26:33he said at first he said no no no there's nothing nothing no problems they
- 26:37just uh just want to spend a bit more time on it and then he followed up and
- 26:41and said I think what he I'm paraphrasing was that they just they
- 26:45they looked at the scripts and they were like H let's spend a bit more time on it uh and I
- 26:51think it's probably just because of you know rise of Skywalker there cuz you know there's
- 26:58been some um there's been some negative feedback just on the whole sequel
- 27:02Trilogy I think so they're probably just trying to be a bit careful are they are
- 27:05they doing it that way or are they careful about like how it was very
- 27:09different to the Mandalorian they want to make it more like that or well I
- 27:13guess we don't really know that's the thing with this none of this Disney
- 27:17stuff you don't you don't really know no like I the example I always give is we
- 27:23didn't know someone else directed half of Rogue one until until that director
- 27:28came out a few years later and said oh yeah I reshot most of that
- 27:31movie and then everyone's like the [ __ ] I still just think this Obi-Wan I think
- 27:38there are so many people who want it I just I I don't think it's going to go
- 27:43well I think it's one of these things that everyone wants but they will just
- 27:46[ __ ] and complain about and put down and say it's crap I don't think want it
- 27:53really if you came to me and said here out of all the Star Wars content could
- 27:58have do you want an Obi-Wan series I would say no I do not want an Obi-Wan
- 28:02series I can think of I can think of 10 things I would want more than that off
- 28:07the top of my head right now let's just get away from those characters we don't need them
- 28:14anymore one thing I am interested in play around in the universe
- 28:18yeah and there's been talk of of doing more varied things one thing I'm
- 28:24interested in uh and it seems like they're doing something
- 28:29is the nights of the Old Republic yes I think that was an interesting world
- 28:34again that's a pre-existing thing so that's sort of still cheating in a way
- 28:38like come up with some new [ __ ] but well weren't they looking to do sort of a
- 28:42different time like not like the game era they doing well there's an article
- 28:47this week because there's been some Buzz about their uh there's been rumors that
- 28:52they're doing a reboot or remake of Knights of the Old Republic and which I
- 28:58would love to see because that game while great has not aged well I got it
- 29:04on my iPad actually it's it's still a lot of fun it's a great game uh the
- 29:08second one actually I liked even more but uh There Was You Know It uh it got
- 29:14rushed there some stuff about it that wasn't great but they're talking about
- 29:18this as the rumor is that this is not a remake as such this is a reimagining and
- 29:23it's a combination of kns of the Old Republic and kns of the Old Republic 2
- 29:27it's going to SM push them together into a new game that brings some Knights of
- 29:33the Old Republic stuff into the current Star Wars cannon which I'm like why do they want
- 29:38do that of the Old Republic was still considered Canon no no well I mean you
- 29:45kind of just anything that didn't exist before Disney you have to assume is not
- 29:51I mean no no but like no I think they just drew a line they said it's just just the
- 29:58movies right now and anything just the movies and the cartoon and cartoon
- 30:03series but not even the Clone Wars I don't think Clone Wars is not no Clone
- 30:06Wars is Cannon just released a new season I believe Clone Wars everything
- 30:10that happened in Clone Wars you should consider Canon all right yep that that's
- 30:14Cannon and also I mean this nights Republic stuff it's all rumors but I
- 30:18just I thought that was interesting you know like if they were gonna do nights to
- 30:24Republic that's an interesting way to do it release a new game
- 30:29I mean you could still do something original if you wanted to I guess but
- 30:33smooshing together two good games might work I don't know it could work look I
- 30:38never played this the first time around so I'd actually be interested oh you
- 30:43they were really good games I feel like I I would say go back and play them now
- 30:47but they really haven't aged well and I
- 30:51don't think see I say factor I feel like you could I feel like maybe but then
- 30:57maybe I'm just I have you know could you got that I've got so many new games that
- 31:02I don't have time to play stop putting stuff on yeah fair enough I did you
- 31:07finish Blade Runner no not yet no okay no cuz I was away and then yeah
- 31:14been busy since I got back but too busy generating dick [Laughter]
- 31:21news dick news I can't even talk about
- 31:26yeah I I haven't played many games this week to be honest it's been a busy week
- 31:30I did Pop um Far Cry 5 on again the other day and I I thought [ __ ] it and I
- 31:35bought the season pass as well so a veritable [ __ ] ton of additional
- 31:42material it's got the um the Mars DLC and all that [ __ ] the Mars one looks
- 31:46really good but the one that I'm most excited about playing is the Vietnam
- 31:51one I think I probably have that I just haven't played it I should check that
- 31:54out too yeah it looks uh it looks pretty cool yeah the MS one gets pretty
- 31:58silly yeah I I started it and then I finished um well just the tone is so
- 32:04different I finished five and then I started the Mars DLC and I was like oh
- 32:07this is very different right yeah so I I I left it for a bit but did you play the
- 32:14sequel Matt uh you mean uh New Dawn is that the one you mean yeah I play yeah I started
- 32:20it and and I liked it yeah it's good as well that was a really good game I
- 32:26didn't play through it I got I start I played a bit of it and I enjoyed it so I
- 32:30should go back to that and then you got distracted yeah too many games well I
- 32:34actually I I did finish a game I just remembered uh I CU we had a bunch of
- 32:40flights to uh to to Austin and back I had my 3DS with me cuz I I was like you
- 32:46know what I'm bringing that and I passes
- 32:49I finally finished uh Phoenix Right duel Destinies
- 32:56objection which is those games are so good I can't I just
- 33:01can't like as in I I got addicted to it again almost instantly I started playing
- 33:06it I was like a [ __ ] forgot how good these are soic I need to go back cuz I
- 33:10never cuz it came out on the Xbox last year I haven't finished playing it but
- 33:13God it's ridiculous really you sit there on your couch playing that on your Xbox
- 33:18no but there so much fun Dan it's like it's so ridiculous but yeah duel
- 33:23Destiny's uh the plot is just so [ __ ] stupid that I can't I can't even explain
- 33:29it but this it's just so much fun and just the way that I mean I just assume
- 33:32that's how law Works in Japan which is
- 33:37terrifying you can't prove him innocent judge knows they're Inn the
- 33:42judge is like well I think you you certainly proven that uh that this
- 33:45gentleman didn't commit the crime but unless you can find out who did I am
- 33:47going to have to find him guilty anyway so I mean that kind of how the law Works anyway in
- 33:54America I watched uh I watched the documentary series on this week called
- 33:58the innocent man and that was pretty much the premise too yeah I've seen that
- 34:03yeah yeah well in this in in jel Destiny's the the uh the prosecutor that
- 34:08you mainly um go up against is a convicted murderer uh who they who who
- 34:14they've allowed to study law in prison and he he prosecutes criminals uh
- 34:18chained up to the to the bench no to to such a funny great what a great PL point
- 34:25that is they actually explained that there's a legal system in the game that it's
- 34:29like long trials so all trials have to be completed with like 3 days of the the
- 34:35murder and it's they call it the Dark Age of the
- 34:40law seriously is so fun I can't even I don't know how to explain why it's just
- 34:46so silly but and they can just present
- 34:50evidence at any time like and then like they'll be like Oh by the Way's the
- 34:55murder weapon halfway through the court the trial yeah they're like oh here's
- 34:58the murder weapon I oh [ __ ] they had the murder weapon the whole time those
- 35:06bastards hilarious look I haven't been uh I haven't been playing a lot of games
- 35:10but I've been doing a lot of reading uh recently yeah and um I've I've been
- 35:16reading a lot of an author that I really loved when I was younger and that's
- 35:19Edgar Rice Burrows right and um he I
- 35:23love his pros and his imagination is is exceptional um but it's really tough
- 35:29reading his books in 2020 because he's a little bit
- 35:35racist and um I'm guessing that comes out in his books yeah it does really
- 35:40does um I mean I don't only I only know his racism through his books you know what I mean
- 35:46like for all I know he was you never met him yeah but
- 35:51um so I mean the the two that I reread in the last year Tarzan of the Apes is
- 35:56you know one of his arguably most famous and the Princess of Mars right which I
- 36:00which I just read the first of the John Carter books right Tarzan is it's it's
- 36:06so racist in such an avert way because he he meets other people they're just
- 36:13black and he still considers himself never having met another person right oh
- 36:19sure until he meets white people and it's just it's just tough to read that
- 36:23when they when they're so a vert like that John Carter of Mars is about a guy
- 36:27who's a conf soldier who ends up on Mars and then basically so I think that's
- 36:33that's a detail I didn't know no I missed that when I was a kid gloss over
- 36:37that in the movie as well yeah probably did they don't gloss over it in the
- 36:41books that's for sure um right he doesn't specifically I mean he talks
- 36:46about fighting the North mostly he talks about fighting the Indians um right the
- 36:52the Savages I'm doing air quotes yeah um but then when he gets to Mars
- 36:58he basically starts talking like the Martians in the same hierarchical way
- 37:03that he describes the the Native Americans during the early parts of the books
- 37:09before he's left the Earth it's just
- 37:13it's just tough to read it's just yeah you know it's an allegory and it's like
- 37:19I stop trying to make me
- 37:23racist cuz I wonder uh people I've been talking a lot about I mean a lot of
- 37:30older authors have that issue at varying levels just because it
- 37:36was I mean it was normal I guess not I'm not saying it was good I'm saying it was
- 37:41just noral fortunately that was the normal for the time yeah that's right
- 37:44and in fact even to the point where it
- 37:47was the law yeah and like HP Lovecraft
- 37:52gets rightly questioned on on quite a number of things I mean I don't even
- 37:57notice uh people have pointed out things that I'm like oh right yeah I get it I
- 38:02mean there's some fairly blatant racial stuff in in HB Lovecraft but there are
- 38:06others where it's like I I guess cuz I've read I'm so used to them that I
- 38:12don't I never thought about it that way you know yeah yeah well that's right and
- 38:15the other thing about HP Lovecraft is that he is even more prolific in his
- 38:19correspondence than he ever was in his published works like he's just there is
- 38:23thousands and thousands of letters that he wrote that are still available uh to
- 38:27be read and he does not hold back
- 38:32right I I've restricted myself to his uh to his fiction I guess so although I I
- 38:38mean that that still that doesn't that doesn't entirely limit your access to
- 38:43well mean there's a black cat with with a name that I will not
- 38:47repeat I'm going to I'm going to read you a little a little seven line poem
- 38:52written by Mr Lovecraft and I'm going to over I'm going to omit the word uh what
- 38:58as it comes up including in the title on the creation of nword mhm you want to
- 39:04hear this uh all right I guess when long
- 39:09ago the gods created Earth in job's Fair image man would shaped at Birth the
- 39:14beasts of lesser parts were next designed yet they too were remote from
- 39:20humankind to fill the Gap and join the rest to man The Olympian host conceived
- 39:26a clever plan a beast they wrought in semi-human figure filled it with Vice
- 39:32and called that thing and I'll just Trail off there oh my
- 39:38God okay huh not familiar with that
- 39:43piece of work Jesus now that is one of his early Works he wrote that in 1912
- 39:50most of his most of his weird fiction and the cthulu misce came in the 20s and
- 39:54early 30s uh you know [ __ ] me but uh he
- 39:59wrote that poem one day he was inspired to write a poem about that I don't even
- 40:05know what to say to that now no
- 40:09you you have confronted me sir and even that yeah that's right fing hell yeah
- 40:15all right well I mean this is the age-old question does that mean his his other
- 40:21work that is not horribly racist is is bad also is at the mountains of Madness
- 40:27now bad cuz also he was a racist [ __ ] yeah mind you there's no racism in
- 40:33at the mountains of Madness I don't think there is but maybe there is I
- 40:36would that you're still allowed to read it but that you're also allowed to think
- 40:39he was a bit of a prick yeah yeah yeah well I certainly do now yeah it's like
- 40:46how I can watch Chinatown and think Roman plansky is really good yeah at
- 40:50making Chinatown but really bad at sodomizing underage girls yeah no well I
- 40:57think he's good at that too that's the problem I think he's bad for doing it
- 41:00sorry both yeah yeah I mean I didn't crize his performance Christ yeah
- 41:06Rosemary's Baby good around a baby not good
- 41:12oh MH speaking of
- 41:16babies how much do you think baby Yoda costs far too much and someone made have
- 41:23ripped them off [ __ ] you it came out that he's worth
- 41:29$5 million and I call [ __ ] he's worth $5 million I love
- 41:34that the way that he's he's not a muppet is he like he's a animatronic right yes
- 41:41yeah but where's the $5 million in it I love the way this came out too the way the
- 41:47way this this has been revealed is uh so there's spoilers for the final episode
- 41:52so minor spoils for the final episode of the Mandalorian there's a sequence where
- 41:56two Scout Troop Troopers have baby Yoda cuz they've grabbed him and they do
- 42:00something very bad who whoa whoa not Roman palansky bad but
- 42:05like they give him Quay ludes and then sise him in a swimming
- 42:10pool you just want to see what he looks like um so
- 42:16theying him in Jack n's pool and there's a sequence where one of them uh he says
- 42:22oh it hasn't moved in a while and he punches it and then so when they're
- 42:26shooting the scene he he punched baby Yoda uh and then they called cut and
- 42:31John favro who was like apparently up in his office came down from the office and
- 42:36said I just need to let you know that this is the hero baby Yoda and it costs
- 42:425 million so while I do want you to hit it I want you to know
- 42:48that so because he really did take a big swing at it yes so if if anyone's
- 42:54familiar with the Great and short-lived sitcom Happy Endings this is Max from
- 43:01that the gay guy I'm not familiar with it notar with it you should watch it
- 43:06it's got Damon Wayne's Jr in it
- 43:10okay I mean it is a sitcom right about like young people living in a loft and
- 43:16having relationships but as that genre of TV goes this is quite a good one well
- 43:21I did like his performance as scout trooper who punches baby Yoda so yes
- 43:26that's a good scene I still want I'm so how is it $5 million
- 43:31well have got a wiggle and stuff right yeah and his eyes move and he they don't
- 43:36they do CGI to it as well yes no well apparently not remember because Vera
- 43:41Herzog said you're [ __ ] cowards shows a puppet shows a puppet I thought it was
- 43:46a combination of both yeah I thought it was because they had the puppet and and
- 43:50they told him it was going to be better once you see it on screen because they
- 43:53were going to add stuff to it and he was like no I don't think they went [ __ ]
- 43:57we have to you told them they were cowards yeah I can't let I can't let
- 44:01Vera Herzog call me a coward yeah but yeah you're probably right I mean I mean
- 44:06everything's digitally touched with in in these things so yeah touched it with my
- 44:13digits but yeah I just even with the
- 44:16mechanical Parts it's someone saw Disney
- 44:20coming oh wait they' got a big
- 44:24checkbook get out of this yeah yeah they saw they saw [ __ ] Kathleen
- 44:29Kennedy and John farro walked in wearing Mouse is got getting out of a limousine
- 44:35and the guys like up the price yeah puppet who and who's this
- 44:40four right yeah we'll just add three extra zeros on I've got to say though
- 44:45whatever they make puppets out of now is massively better than what they used to
- 44:49make puppets out of like when I watched some of the movies from 30 years ago
- 44:53even ones that I love like the [ __ ] are
- 44:56they making them out of like latex skin just doesn't look like skin back in the
- 45:02day you know what I mean mhm and even like I watch a lot of horror movies
- 45:06right and like you'll you'll see someone like you'll see a severed head and it's literally
- 45:12papier-mâché yeah yeah some were better than others like they didn't have rubber back then
- 45:18they didn't have translucent rubber with subsurface scattering well if you listen
- 45:24to uh uh what's his name Rick Baker was
- 45:27on um Rogan and uh and that was fascinating haven't heard that one yeah
- 45:33oh it's really good he's such a such a sweet guy uh and it's just just very
- 45:38very humble guy and he just you know he did like the uh the American Werewolf in
- 45:42London yeah transformation which kind of put him on the map and just him talking
- 45:47about all that stuff there was like there was no as well yeah Thriller yeah
- 45:52yeah he actually talked about that quite a bit it's quite funny um cuz yeah they
- 45:57rushed him and so it was when he looked at it afterwards he was like oh he he
- 46:00looks at he goes oh God cuz it's not but but everyone else thinks it's great it's
- 46:06hideous but they had no there were no there were no schools for makeup effects
- 46:10there were no manuals there were no books or anything like that well not
- 46:14really like and so he they just made it all up him in um uh what's
- 46:19the da of the Dead uh Stan Winston no no Stan Winston as well yeah but no I'm
- 46:25thinking of um God what's his name he did all Dawn of the Dead Day of the Dead Tom SV yeah
- 46:31yeah yeah all those guys like they just made it up like yeah so so yeah now I
- 46:37guess it's Advanced to the point where you get bod method for it yeah yeah but
- 46:43I want to see so Luke you're you're calling [ __ ] on on the price how
- 46:47much you how much you reckon you could make a baby Yoda for give us a quote um
- 46:53did you want it to move you know what doesn't even have to move move
- 46:57move just got to look like baby Yoda just look like baby Yoda um look I do
- 47:03want to make a bit of profit this going to take a bit of my time I'll go yeah yeah
- 47:09so $10,000 $10,000 I mean to me that's still quite an expensive puppet yeah I'm
- 47:16still ripping you guys off yeah I mean I've not paid $10,000 for a puppet
- 47:20before but yeah I mean it is less than a less than a violin so no that's right
- 47:26yeah me my ancestors but there's no behind the scenes stuff available is
- 47:31there of the Mandalorian that features what baby yod looks like on set not yet
- 47:36I don't think there was one photo of George and baby Yoda yeah that was I
- 47:41like that photo that's I and I love that he ditched [ __ ] episode 9 completely
- 47:46but he's onet snuggling baby Yoda yeah I know yeah I there fake when I first saw
- 47:52it I must admit the photo yeah yeah there was an article the other day and a
- 47:57video that I didn't uh I didn't watch I saw it in the feed I meant I meant to go
- 48:01back to it you just reminded me about how on set for the Mandalorian they used
- 48:05a lot of that uh previs stuff on set
- 48:08like the um uh and actually in in the uh the director in the Jedi The Last Jedi
- 48:15documentary they showed that as well where they basically they can previs the
- 48:18whole scene uh all the all the special effects you know on the monitors when
- 48:23they're shooting and stuff which is pretty [ __ ] amazing oh wow so you can
- 48:27see like so I think this was showing on the tennis ball right so you can see the
- 48:33ship for example because they'll they'll just project it up onto a screen or
- 48:37something and so you kind of have more than you know that Terren stamp story
- 48:41about when he thought he was going to be working with Nelly Portman and it was
- 48:44just a Post-It note with a face drawn on it yeah it's a little different to that
- 48:50funnily enough that's uh that's also the sexual experience that luk has had with
- 48:54n with Nell Forman asked dur a date she
- 48:57said no so he took a Post-It note
- 49:02yeah listeners if you uh if you want to help us raise 10 grand so Luke can build
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- 50:5015,000 I'll make a puppet for us and a puppet for them a deal 15,000 for two
- 50:57sure okay buy one get one half
- 51:01price but Matt needs $14,000 for his oh
- 51:04the violin's violin as well and then let's just say let's just say I also get
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- 51:50than they do want generally speaking like less Star Wars stop talking about
- 51:54Star Wars it's not going to happen sorry sorry we've tried there was no
- 52:00Star Wars news this week and we still talked about Star
- 52:04Wars always Creeps in there look while we're talking about puppets and and
- 52:10stuff uh I've read this story about Steven Spielberg a few weeks ago that
- 52:14I've meant to bring up that I find quite hilarious right so there's an actor
- 52:19called Harry Hamlin you'd kind of maybe recognize his face I I can't he's one of
- 52:24those guys who's been in things but oh I in stuff since like the 70s up until the
- 52:30'90s or whatever but evidently he auditioned for
- 52:36a role or for the role in uh Raiders of the Lost Arc of Indiana Jones he was one
- 52:40of the ones who auditioned and it was you know it was hot property everyone
- 52:42was auditioning for it um but he went in for his audition and he got uh paired up
- 52:48with Stephanie Zimbalist who if you don't know who she is she's the girl from Remington
- 52:54steel the old TV show with Pierce brosman that helped him get
- 52:59bonded and then prevented him from doing it and made him get Timothy D instead
- 53:05but uh so they were they were sitting there in the waiting room waiting uh for
- 53:10Steven Spielberg to come out and give their audition and he was running late and then
- 53:16eventually a uh an orderly or an aid or someone came out and said Hey listen
- 53:21Steven is running a lot late right now he's running very late um I'm just going
- 53:25to pop you guys into the kitchen um what might be really fun is if you baked him
- 53:29a chocolate cake uh for when he got here and they were like what they were like
- 53:35okay all right so um so they went to the kitchen they begrudgingly started making
- 53:41a chocolate cake and while they were doing it this guy Harry Hamlin started
- 53:45mouthing off about Steven Spielberg he's never met him but he started saying uh
- 53:49you know I've got a friend called Amy she lives in New York and um this guy
- 53:52Spielberg is [ __ ] stalking her you just won't leave her alone now
- 53:57[ __ ] Amy Irving and St SP got married a couple of years later
- 54:02so um and at a certain point the the aid came in and said okay you can go you
- 54:08guys didn't get the part and apparently that was their audition and that they
- 54:11were being secretly filmed and recorded and watched by uh Spielberg and this is
- 54:16evidently how he conducted his auditions which was people not knowing they were
- 54:20in an audition and seeing if they had on screen chemistry with their potential
- 54:23co-stars which sounds silly but when you hear that part of it it kind of makes
- 54:28sense yeah yeah like how do these two go together mhm yeah and uh you know when
- 54:34making a cake I guess I guess Harrison Ford and Karen Allen made a great cake
- 54:39and were a great team or you know um yeah who was it
- 54:44going to be Tom celic and sha young you know they obviously made a pretty good
- 54:48cake as well I feel like if I went to audition for a film and they were like
- 54:53all right well just pop in here and make a cake be like well something's going on
- 54:58yeah this might be I might do my best at this yeah I'm going to do my best to
- 55:02make a good cake and I probably won't [ __ ] about [ __ ] Steven spelberg
- 55:05while I'm in here yeah yeah that's right yeah I feel like you should probably
- 55:10should have picked up on on something yeah yeah or that even if you weren't
- 55:14going to make a good cake just maybe don't [ __ ] about the director while
- 55:18you're just while it's a little suspicious the whole scenario is a
- 55:23little suspicious it might be good if you made a chocolate cake if you not in
- 55:27the kitchen why would you sit in the waiting room and [ __ ] about Steven
- 55:30Spiel yeah yeah yeah that's a weird thing to do needless to say Harry hlin
- 55:36has never starred in a Steven Spielberg movie I do know him I know him he he was
- 55:41uh pus in uh Clash of the Titans ah sure
- 55:46and he's also uh he's in Veronica Mars and I'm not going to say any more about
- 55:52that because if you haven't seen Veronica Mars it's a mystery and so if I say
- 55:57too much he's someone uh he's some one of the one of the parents in uh Veronica
- 56:02bars are we not giving spoilers for 20-year-old shows now oh fine he was the
- 56:06murderer in the first season I realized by by even refusing to
- 56:12say anything I'm I'm giving it yeah said it yeah yeah cuz indana Jones actually
- 56:18yeah no you can't me no no remember Harrison Ford said when he's gone that's
- 56:24it now dead he's dead yeah yeah like
- 56:29like he has control over it if I was Harrison Ford I would um I would just
- 56:34put a little bit of money aside and I would hire a crew for one week and I
- 56:39would film one scene from each of the movies I've been in where that character
- 56:45dies so you know he should put it should do a you know one scene from Indiana
- 56:50Jones where he goes to swing across a ledge and misses and falls to his death
- 56:55and then you know like you know regarding Henry where you know
- 57:01he gets shot again in another robbery but this time he doesn't
- 57:06survive yeah it' be awesome witness the barn falls on him Henry I'm sorry the
- 57:12bullet that you were shot with was infected with AIDS and God so even
- 57:16though you did recover you will slowly die oh my God I don't think Harrison
- 57:21Ford actually cares no like at I thought he didn't either and then I
- 57:28saw a picture of him wearing that t-shirt that says I'm Han Solo and
- 57:33Indiana Jones and Blade Runner and I was like too shame Mr Ford Harrison Ford I I
- 57:39I think we may have talked about this before but I've I think he doesn't get
- 57:43enough credit for being as as funny and MH people say that oh you know he's kind
- 57:50of prickly and I don't think he is I think he just likes [ __ ] with people
- 57:54because he's very funny well I'm sure it's draining being you know I mean
- 58:00boohoo celebrities but I'm sure it's like I wouldn't want to talk about the
- 58:05same [ __ ] for 50 years you know we've only been doing it for 10 years no but I
- 58:12mean if every day someone came up and asked you the same questions you'd be
- 58:16like ah [ __ ] sake you know what I mean like oh what was it like being Han Solo
- 58:22yeah it was great but I think it's also because you get the people who come up with those
- 58:28they don't see you as a person they see you as the character yeah as well
- 58:33although do you remember that uh did you watch the the captains that um docu the
- 58:39Star Trek documentary where uh William shaton is talking about how he [ __ ]
- 58:43hated Star Trek fans cuz they they just Disturbed him because they thought he
- 58:48was Captain Kirk and he didn't like it get he would feel awkward and
- 58:51embarrassed and and then that would come out in a way where people thought he was
- 58:55rude and so he just didn't like he just hated going to conventions cuz it was
- 58:58just too people aren't asking they're asking things about the show like you
- 59:04said this in this episode but then in this one you said this how does that
- 59:08work and yeah and he's just like F I don't know mate but then Patrick
- 59:12Stewart's talking to him and then he says Yeah but isn't it beautiful that
- 59:16you've created this thing that that people love so much and you can you can
- 59:19kind of connect with all these people and then he has this moment where he's
- 59:22like oh my God you're right and then he went on to embrace that stuff even more
- 59:26I just thought that was really cool speaking of Patrick SCH though I just
- 59:30watched the first episode of Picard I was going to ask if either of you guys
- 59:33had seen this no I really want to I haven't seen it either I'm liking it
- 59:38yeah okay that's good yeah it's did either of you watch Discovery no no not
- 59:44all the way well this is Discovery was also like there go down more that more
- 59:50serious path yeah so it's not the sort of Campus the Next Generation and the
- 59:55voyage and things like that I it's the only way I know how to describe
- 59:59generation but it's actually serious I've only watched the first episode and
- 1:00:03yeah it's off to a good start all right well so I don't know where you can
- 1:00:09watch it I watch it on Amazon Prime in Australia I think it might be on Prime
- 1:00:14here I'll have to check I did get see I did see a banner for it the other day when I
- 1:00:19was watching something so yeah I really want to check it out does he say make it
- 1:00:24show in the first epis not yet ah damn it I reckon something will happen in the
- 1:00:28last episode of the first series and he'll have to bust it out what do you
- 1:00:32mean he he once he gets B I re Mon's on a ship engage you'll say it
- 1:00:38yeah number two you get engaged
- 1:00:43engage to dat data I will think so he's
- 1:00:48in it right yes as well jonan is in it they're all in it yeah it's good for
- 1:00:54them it's sort of a bit weird watching um the lines of the conventions
- 1:00:58for him are going to be longer again it's good for him the guy who plays data
- 1:01:02what's his name I for someone spider Brent spinner Brent Spiner yeah he's a
- 1:01:07[ __ ] nice guy by the way he's a really nice guy but he's also playing an
- 1:01:11Android that has aged oh sure course yeah yeah yeah yeah and gotten a little
- 1:01:18chubbier a he's one of those I think all of those nextg guys are really nice actually
- 1:01:24they're the kind of the cons that like he he in particular he brings his chair
- 1:01:28around the front of the table and he like he spends time with everybody like
- 1:01:32they're really I like those guys yeah good people seems
- 1:01:37like so I'm glad they're getting some more work yeah cuz you they really see
- 1:01:42them in much yeah except for will weaton well even that you don't really
- 1:01:48see him in much no he's gone very quiet because of what he has gone very quiet
- 1:01:53yeah why has he gone quiet so he um he got caught up uh well he had a big legal
- 1:01:59dispute with geek and Sury which uh obviously has him disappeared from all
- 1:02:03their stuff uh apart from the older videos but yeah it was about one of the
- 1:02:07shows he was a producer on or something and about he was get cut from that or
- 1:02:11something like that something like that but he uh he got caught up in this whole
- 1:02:14thing and like I I mean I don't know what his intentions were with this but
- 1:02:17he uh you know on Twitter a lot of people use or the celebrities use this
- 1:02:21these blocklist things where so they can block trolls and he he was using one
- 1:02:27that apparently was uh like linked to some
- 1:02:34transphobic thing or something like that anyway he ended up blocking a bunch of
- 1:02:38trans people and uh so people got really annoyed with him about it and he I guess
- 1:02:45just being his personality didn't handle it very well basically said [ __ ] off
- 1:02:51like mind you're in business I didn't mean to it was an accident he just
- 1:02:53didn't deal with it very well and so he left Twitter and went to some uh
- 1:02:59private not private but uh some other platform that's like Twitter uh and then
- 1:03:05and then got into some argument with people there and then left that as well
- 1:03:09and so as far as I know he's just left the internet for now cuz oh because of
- 1:03:12the thing with hard argue with the internet people were harassing him about
- 1:03:15Chris Hardwick as well you know that whole thing happened with Hardwick and
- 1:03:18um uh CH digra and then people were asking him to comment on it and he just
- 1:03:23I don't I think he was just like you know what I'm out so he's kind of
- 1:03:27disappeared probably for the best well he needs a break I think his personality
- 1:03:33is uh doesn't do well when people are
- 1:03:37pushing him on stuff like that so yeah he's he he too quick to uh to react
- 1:03:44anyway I mean allegedly on all this stuff I don't want to get sued by will
- 1:03:47weaton uh this is just what I what I saw what you saw saw you're an
- 1:03:52eyewitness I saw it on Twitter is what I'm saying and I read articles that said
- 1:03:57will Wheaton's a prick and I was like is he and then I looked into it I'm like I
- 1:04:02don't know if he is I think he just didn't deal with the whole situation
- 1:04:04very well I'm going to edit that so it just SS me you going will Wheaton's a
- 1:04:09prick just Cho the whole thing down
- 1:04:17prick no I don't know if I like will ween I honestly I feel like I'd have to
- 1:04:23meet him cuz I see I know he's one of those people that I'm like I don't know
- 1:04:27man you might annoy me I'm not sure I I
- 1:04:31at first resisted and then I kind of bored into his charm a little bit you
- 1:04:37know I resisted will ween as best I could yeah but he held me down and he is
- 1:04:43very strong okay again before we get sued I'm not saying that will Wheaten committed
- 1:04:50sexual assault against me I'm not saying that that's all for this week thank you
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