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10-22-26 - Nuggets are back TONIGHT/Bo still working through ankle injury/Jonathon Cooper returns · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Cain on demand.
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  Speaker 2: Happy opening day for anyone who is looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: seeing and as curious as I am of what exactly
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  Speaker 2: this Nuggets team is going to be this year.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go!
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  Speaker 2: They have graduated years ago to a point in which
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  Speaker 2: championships are the prime standard. You have a roster of players,
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  Speaker 2: including an all-timer, that tell you no matter what happens,
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  Speaker 2: you should expect to be in.
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  Speaker 3: Championship contention at the end of each year. And if not,
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  Speaker 3: it's a wild disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's going to happen every season, but you
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  Speaker 2: need to be able to say, I'm confident in that.
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  Speaker 2: And I will tell you this, for the first time
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  Speaker 2: in years, this offseason, I don't know if I had them.
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  Speaker 2: I just, I saw a lot of you getting worse
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  Speaker 2: in many categories and not better. And that's been a
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  Speaker 2: slow sort of like Leaky faucet drip over.
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  Speaker 3: The last few years. Championship windows! Yeah, yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 2: It's just been a leaky faucet drip of, all right,
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  Speaker 2: you had KCP, now KCP's gone. Who's going to replace him? Well,
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  Speaker 2: Christian Brown does that in the starting lineup. Who replaces
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  Speaker 2: Christian Brown off the bench? Subsequent years after that, it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, especially last season, Tim Hardaway Jr. was like
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  Speaker 2: second all-time in single season threes for the Nuggets. He
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  Speaker 2: leaves in free agency. Who takes over that? Okay, DeMar DeRozan?
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  Speaker 2: I guess that fits. Different kind of player, but who
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  Speaker 2: now replaces Peyton Watson? All these different questions that you have,
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  Speaker 2: that I have certainly, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Just want to see how this is going to go.
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  Speaker 2: There's one thing I think I can say with certainty
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA is And I saw it at the
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  Speaker 2: end of last season. The best three teams left standing
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  Speaker 2: all had one thing in common. And it continues into
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  Speaker 2: this year when you look at the best teams across
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  Speaker 2: the league. The best teams in the league can and
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  Speaker 2: will go 10 deep off their bench.
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  Speaker 3: They'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: And they will do it without hesitation. They will do
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  Speaker 2: it in a playoff game. They will do it in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA finals. They will do it in a game
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  Speaker 2: seven of the NBA finals. That's my concern with where
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets are. I will tell you, as the summer
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  Speaker 2: league preseason training camp, whatever, that portion of the schedule continued,
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  Speaker 2: I felt better about them as it went along. I
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  Speaker 2: became a lot more curious about in Alpha Diallo or
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  Speaker 2: a Cam Whitmore or guys like that got my attention
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  Speaker 2: more and more as the offseason went along.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Trevin Brazil is certainly another one of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know. And that's kind of my issue.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know. Here's what I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: with certainty about the Nuggets. If the Nuggets starting five
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  Speaker 2: stays healthy, and we know when they have to stay healthy,
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  Speaker 2: it's in April, in May, in June. You have as
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  Speaker 2: good a starting five as anybody in the NBA, still
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  Speaker 2: to this day.
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  Speaker 3: You have it.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets top seven in their rotation is
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  Speaker 2: one I can ride or die with.
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  Speaker 3: You give me that starting.
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  Speaker 2: Five plus DeMar DeRozan and Spencer Jones coming off the bench,
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  Speaker 2: those are two guys that I would trust. And I
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  Speaker 2: would roll with them against most teams in the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: if not all. The big question for the Nuggets is
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  Speaker 2: very simple. How many other guys can be a thing?
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  Speaker 2: And I mean that very specifically. I need like three
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  Speaker 2: to four, but I'll take three. Three other of these
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  Speaker 2: guys to be a thing this year. And I categorize
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  Speaker 2: a thing as someone you can trust to give you.
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  Speaker 3: Minutes without hesitation.
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  Speaker 2: Not a guy who's sometimes good and sometimes bad or
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  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of potential. Maybe two years down.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to wait two years. I need things now.
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  Speaker 2: You were on the brink, and I mean this. This
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  Speaker 2: year feels like a serious Nuggets blueprint year. And the
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  Speaker 2: blueprint is this. Vic gave you a number. Do you
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  Speaker 2: remember what it was, Nellie? Was it only 28 players
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  Speaker 2: from the 2020 and 2021 season still remain with their teams?
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  Speaker 2: And the Nuggets have four of them at the moment?
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  Speaker 2: It's Jokic, Murray, and Gordon in Zeke Nagy. If you
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  Speaker 2: have a first-round exit this year, if you have a
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  Speaker 2: second-round exit this year, there is a really decent chance
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  Speaker 2: that Jokic is like the last man standing. Like, maybe
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  Speaker 2: you break up Jokic and Jamal. Maybe you finally pull
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  Speaker 2: the trigger on Aaron Gordon and look for something new.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know. But you can feel it. Michael
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  Speaker 3: Porter Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Has been on a podcast saying, I felt it. When
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  Speaker 2: we lost in the playoffs and I couldn't lift my
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  Speaker 2: arm above my shoulder and A.G. had the hamstring and
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  Speaker 2: all that and we took OKC to seven games, we
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  Speaker 2: felt somebody was going to have to pay the piper
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  Speaker 2: for it. And he goes, I knew it was me.
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  Speaker 2: To me, this feels like another season where that.
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  Speaker 1: Is.
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  Speaker 2: Not only possible, I think it's likely, unless you make
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  Speaker 2: a deep run in the playoffs. And then you run
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  Speaker 2: into some bigger trouble, which is you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: get Milwaukee'd. And I don't mean Milwaukee'd in a sense
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  Speaker 2: that your superstar leaves and goes somewhere else, because Jokic
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  Speaker 2: would not do that.
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  Speaker 3: He's already said it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, before the season started, he got to the
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  Speaker 2: mic and he says, I will sign the contract extension
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  Speaker 2: this upcoming offseason, assuming they want me. And I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure the Nuggets do. But you aren't in trouble of
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  Speaker 2: your superstar leaving. You're in trouble of your entire blueprint
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  Speaker 2: being broken up and then hoping and praying and crossing
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  Speaker 2: your fingers that you can find that magic again. which,
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  Speaker 2: look around the league, eight different champions, eight different years.
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  Speaker 2: Not very likely at the moment. But can you get
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  Speaker 2: a Trevin Brazil to be a thing? Can you get
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  Speaker 2: a Diallo to be a thing? Can you get a
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  Speaker 2: Whitmore to be a thing? Once he gets healthy, Julian Strother,
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  Speaker 2: can he be a thing? Marvin Bagley, Dron Holmes, somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Can you find three of those dudes that you're comfortable
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  Speaker 2: putting in a rotation and being like, this is cool
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  Speaker 2: with me? Because here's what you got. You have a
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  Speaker 2: conference and more specifically, a division that is full of
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of ass kickers. Like, you got the Thunder.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 2: the T-Wolves and the Spurs and all these different teams.
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  Speaker 3: That you know are going to be good at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the year. You just know it.
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  Speaker 2: You need to find a way to play with them
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  Speaker 2: in the style of depth mattering, depth contributing, and depth
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  Speaker 2: being able to step up in absence of injury. Like,
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  Speaker 2: Here would be my standard for this discussion on what
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets need coming off their bench. You need to
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  Speaker 2: have players on your bench that are good enough that
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  Speaker 2: if Christian Brown is so hindered by an ankle injury
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs that he can barely lift enough to dunk,
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  Speaker 2: you feel comfortable saying, Christian, we can't play you because
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  Speaker 2: we're going to play this guy instead.
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  Speaker 3: That's where it's got to be.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, they admitted by what we witnessed on who
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  Speaker 2: was on the floor and who wasn't, we don't have that. Well,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully they can find it this year. There are guys
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  Speaker 2: I am hopeful about. There are guys in this roster
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  Speaker 2: that I think have the potential to be something. But
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  Speaker 2: potential gets you beat. And potential takes a long time
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  Speaker 2: to hone. So it all gets started tonight. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: not only do the Nuggets play the last game, or
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  Speaker 2: they are the last team to play their first game
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  Speaker 2: of the season, they do it with like the last
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  Speaker 2: game of the night, as this thing's going to tip
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  Speaker 2: off around, what, 745-ish, I would assume, on ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: So, it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think a very exciting, curious, and terrifying season for
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets all at the same time. I really feel
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  Speaker 2: like this can push or pull you in about 100
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  Speaker 2: different directions depending on where your expectations are starting.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe that's where we can start this morning. Let's
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  Speaker 3: do one of these. Straw pull.
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  Speaker 2: Where are your expectations today? Where do you think the
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets go? Where does their season end today?
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  Speaker 3: Is it championship? Is it missing the playoffs entirely?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a first round, second round, third round exit?
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  Speaker 2: If you had to guess right now, where do you
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  Speaker 2: think their season ends? Because I'm kind of at the
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  Speaker 2: second round portion of this now. And look, all of
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  Speaker 2: this is subject to change once we see this team
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  Speaker 2: actually come together and play. Maybe some of these guys
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  Speaker 2: look way better than we thought. And you can radically
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  Speaker 2: change those expectations. But it feels sort of like second
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  Speaker 2: round to me this year.
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  Speaker 3: As of right now.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, I thought it was championship. Like, I thought
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  Speaker 2: they had their best roster ever. And it just turned
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  Speaker 2: out through health and a few other things... Some guy's
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  Speaker 2: not panning out.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the case.
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  Speaker 2: But 303-504-0925, tell me where you think, as of today,
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  Speaker 2: when is the last Nuggets game played? Also today, it
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  Speaker 2: is a Nuggets ticket Thursday. We're giving away lower-level tickets
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  Speaker 2: to the Nuggets home opener with keywords on the 20s
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  Speaker 2: every hour.
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  Speaker 3: Plus....
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  Speaker 2: The best tickets we've ever given away. So we have
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  Speaker 2: lower-level tickets that every show gives away and one pair
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  Speaker 2: of tickets that we've never done ever before. So stay
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  Speaker 2: tuned for that in five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Stick around.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we have a loaded day today. Jared Bednar's
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  Speaker 2: at 8. Jeff Legwald's at 9. Kaz is going to
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  Speaker 2: join us at 9.30, leading up to the first Nuggets
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  Speaker 2: game of the year. And with that, it's a very
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  Speaker 2: special Nuggets ticket Thursday. Your first keyword for lower-level tickets
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  Speaker 2: to the home opener is BEADS.
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  Speaker 2: So text that in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 2: 104 Row AA tickets. You will be right behind the
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  Speaker 2: Pelicans bench. You will be able to smell Zion. That's
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  Speaker 2: where these seats are. And we'll call out names tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: on the 20s starting at 820.
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  Speaker 3: So not only do these keywords get you in.
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  Speaker 2: The running for the lower level tickets that every show
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  Speaker 2: is giving away today, it gets you in the running
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  Speaker 2: for the Section 104 row AA tickets tomorrow. Again, this
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  Speaker 2: is right behind the visiting team's bench.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Your feet are essentially on the floor. You aren't courtside
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  Speaker 2: courtside like where Chalamet sits.
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  Speaker 3: You're right behind that.
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  Speaker 2: Food options you get at the hot dogs, nachos, sliders,
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  Speaker 2: chicken sandwiches. Drinks include beer and canned wine and canned cocktails.
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  Speaker 2: You have in-seat food and beverage service. So you never
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  Speaker 2: have to leave.
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  Speaker 3: It's beautiful. So again, text in beads in your first
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  Speaker 3: and last name to 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 4: And the keyword theme for today should be pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 4: They're playing the New Orleans Pelicans today. First keyword is beads.
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  Speaker 4: We got some Mardi Gras going on here. When you
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  Speaker 4: said beads on a bracelet, I said, all right, Taylor Swift,
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  Speaker 4: you got to aim a little bit higher than that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't look at the other ones.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 4: No, if you want to earn some beads, you can
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  Speaker 4: earn them the old-fashioned way. I'll tell you how.
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  Speaker 3: You want to get a double entry in the keyword?
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  Speaker 3: Come on down to the station. All right, not that.
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  Speaker 3: We said the beads. The beads thing. Beads? Beads.
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  Speaker 2: Um.
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  Speaker 3: That would be funny.
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  Speaker 2: If there was just a line out the front door
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  Speaker 2: and like, I'm here for my beads and the chance
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  Speaker 2: to have a double shot at this, uh, front row
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  Speaker 2: ticket thing.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, I'll greet you at the front door wearing a
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  Speaker 4: paper mache head, a big paper mache head, a Louis Armstrong.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even saying this, not just for women. If dudes,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to do it too, then fine.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: I want that line around the door. I thought this
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  Speaker 3: was America.
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  Speaker 1: Anywho.
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  Speaker 2: Um, So we're going to have keywords on the 20s
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  Speaker 2: every hour. Jared Bednar at 8 o'clock. Leggy at 9.
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  Speaker 2: Kaz at 9.30.
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  Speaker 3: Now listen. Heard some of the audio yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, Bo Nix speaking to the media. Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 2: who's been very honest, and it's amazing how struggles bring
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  Speaker 2: forth honesty. And I think that Bo Nix, in most cases,
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  Speaker 2: you would assume, would be someone. He's been very defiant
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  Speaker 2: behind a microphone. If things are questioned about him, he
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  Speaker 2: gives you sort of a snarky answer.
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  Speaker 3: For example, Nelly, have the.
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  Speaker 2: Interception one queued up where somebody says, hey, Bo, what
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  Speaker 2: happened on the interception in the second quarter?
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  Speaker 3: Chop back, do it to the other team. That's the
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  Speaker 3: kind of answers you've gotten from Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 4: And it wasn't someone who asked him that question. Altitude's
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  Speaker 4: very own Darren McKee asked him what happened on that
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  Speaker 4: interception in the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 6: Chop back, do it to the other team.
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  Speaker 3: Do I necessarily like an answer like that?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the question here, and he knows what it is,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, what did you see? Or what did you
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  Speaker 2: think you saw as opposed to what actually happened? But
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  Speaker 2: he can have a little bit of that sharp tongue
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  Speaker 2: where he's like, There's this air of, don't question me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good at this.
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  Speaker 2: This year, especially over the last couple of weeks, has
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  Speaker 2: been very different.
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  Speaker 3: And that screams to me somebody who knows he's in
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  Speaker 3: one right now.
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  Speaker 6: Who cares?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows that his level of play is not only
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  Speaker 2: not to his standard or his team's standard, but.
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  Speaker 3: Also not the fans' standard.
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  Speaker 2: And you can brush fans and their opinions off to
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  Speaker 2: the side and say, well, they don't know anything.
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  Speaker 3: They aren't in the room with us. And that's true.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, the fans are the one that
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  Speaker 2: get you big paychecks. And so I've heard him give
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  Speaker 2: a few answers lately where I'm like, huh, this seems
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  Speaker 2: like someone who is very aware of the struggles that
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  Speaker 2: are happening right now and is kind of lost for
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  Speaker 2: the moment on how to fix it. So the big
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  Speaker 2: question to me, as I've asked over and over again,
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  Speaker 2: and I know people have wondered, there's a stat that
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  Speaker 2: I think sticks out more than any of the others
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  Speaker 2: regarding Bo Nix that shows you what's happening here.
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  Speaker 3: At least gives you a glimpse on a part of
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  Speaker 3: the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix, through six games of the NFL season, has
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  Speaker 2: 37 rushing yards.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty-seven.
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  Speaker 2: And just out of curiosity, you take some of the
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  Speaker 2: most immobile running backs in the league and wonder how
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  Speaker 2: many yards they have. And just off the top of
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  Speaker 2: my head, if I had to pick maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the most immobile guys.
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  Speaker 2: In the NFL, I'm thinking maybe a 38-year-old Matthew Stafford
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  Speaker 2: who has run for 21 yards this year. or a
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  Speaker 2: not-very-fleet-of-foot Jared Goff, who's run for 16. These guys are
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  Speaker 2: in the same category as Bo Nix for rushing yards
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  Speaker 2: this season. The difference is, Bo Nix is a runner.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of his game. It's what he does.
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  Speaker 3: And so I thought about that, like, man, 30... 37 rushing.
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  Speaker 4: Yards?
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  Speaker 2: Through six weeks of the season. He was averaging like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, 25 to 30 rushing yards a game
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  Speaker 2: last year. So the question is why? And I think
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  Speaker 2: we all know why.
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  Speaker 3: It's obvious.
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  Speaker 2: He does not trust his ankle still. It might be
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  Speaker 2: healthy and it might be fully cleared.
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  Speaker 3: But it ain't cleared upstairs. And he talked about that.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Bo Nix yesterday. Are you confident?
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  Speaker 2: Or do you think there's any problems still with your
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  Speaker 2: ankle that's bothering you?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'd be lying if I said no. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think, I think that's just what happens.
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  Speaker 6: I think you come back and you're like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: every day is a progression. It's like you're doing treatment
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  Speaker 6: for the whole entire year. And I'm not necessarily doing
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  Speaker 6: physical therapy treatment, but I'm out there on the practice
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  Speaker 6: field getting rep after rep, trying to get back in
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  Speaker 6: super great shape, you know, so my carries can go up.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm ready when my, my numbers called and when
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  Speaker 6: I can run, but I'm not scared. I'm not physically
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  Speaker 6: like worried. I just think there's something to, um, the sport.
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  Speaker 6: I think all guys, when they come back from an injury,
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  Speaker 6: it's like just doing it one day at a time. And, um,
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  Speaker 6: so I think that's just part of the game. That's
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  Speaker 6: part of the process. And, you know, I had surgery probably,
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  Speaker 6: I think six months ago, you know, it takes, it
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  Speaker 6: takes a while for things to fully re-engage and re-come
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: back and, You know, I'm confident myself. I know I'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: going to get back and be exactly what I was,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: if not better, because as I get older, that's how
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: it's been.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: The other problem is that's the plant leg. That's the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: one you get your power from. That's the one you
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: push off with. I mean, you look at MLB pitchers,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: what makes them have a strong arm? It's what kind
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: of push can you get off the rubber? And if
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you're a right-handed pitcher, that back right leg where you
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: put all of that, I think it's potential energy.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I was really bad at science.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: But when they get up into their windup and they're
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: on one leg, they have all this potential energy that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: stuck in that back leg that they convert into, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: believe it's called kinetic, kinetic energy. But the more that
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: you have push off that back leg, the more that
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you have zip on the ball.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Ooh la la, someone's going to get laid in college.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Dropping some potential and kinetic energy on us. Check out
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: the big brain on Brad.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's the right way. It
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: felt right in my head when I said it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: No, you got it. You got it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: The thing about that, though, with Knicks is that back
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: foot makes every decision on a drop back.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: It makes the decision whether to push up in the pocket.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: It makes the decision whether to put all of that
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: energy on that back leg and let one rip downfield.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It makes every decision on whether I bail from the pocket.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And it makes the decision on whether I take off
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and run. It all has to do with that back
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: leg and that back ankle. And if you're not confident
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in that, you can see why it's been a struggle.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: And I think that Kreckman asked a really interesting question yesterday.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It was their crossover between them and PhD. And Kreckman
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: asked this question. What is the point of the Broncos offense?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Is it to score touchdowns? Or is it to not
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: put the defense in bad positions? And I think that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: is a legitimate question that I've seen the Broncos make
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: decisions towards the latter. I'll give you an example.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: If you were a team that's.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Goal as an offense was to go out and score touchdowns,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and I know on the surface it's everybody's goal, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you know what we're asking here.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Are you willing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: To put your defense. Potentially in a bad spot. To
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: take a gamble. To score a touchdown. If it hurts
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: your defense. And I think the Broncos answer to that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Has been defiantly no. They will take field goals. Instead
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: of going forward on fourth down.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: When it's fourth. And one. From the one yard line.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: They will opt.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: For a 19-yard field goal before going for it on
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: fourth and one at the one-yard line? And all of
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: these reasons and all the decisions that they make because
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: of this are centered around, I am not going to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: put our very, very, very good defense in a bad
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: position for an offense that is not good right now.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And maybe that stuff changes as the year goes along.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But I asked this question before. Do you know who'd
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: love to have Bo Nix as his quarterback?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: It's Vic Fangio.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Vic Fangio's entire MO as the Broncos head coach here
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: with the great defense that he had and the great
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: defensive play caller that he is.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: He had Drew Locke. They went out and got Teddy Bridgewater. Why?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Was Teddy Miles better than Drew Locke as a quarterback?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke had more raw talent. We've seen that in
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the time that he stepped in for Sam Donald in Seattle. Like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: maybe those couple of games that he played might give
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: him an opportunity to earn a starting job somewhere next year.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: But Vic Fangio wanted Teddy Bridgewater because his entire thing was, hey,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: if we don't turn the ball over... and we play
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the field position game, I think my defense is going
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: to win. And that feels a lot like what the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Broncos are doing right now. And the texture says, they
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: put the defense in bad spots all the time, 15-second
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: three and outs. True, three and outs aren't great, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you know what a three and out results in?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: A 50-yard punt.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: The Broncos have won a bunch of football games this
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: year because the opposing team couldn't punt because they turned
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the ball over. And when you turn the ball over
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and the drive starts at the 40 instead of the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: opposite 20, it's way easier to put points on the board.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Think about the games that you've won just because of turnovers.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Or I guess more specifically, takeaways. You go to kind
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: of each one of these games, you can point out
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a killer turnover that occurred that cost the opposing team
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the game. Jacksonville is up 13-6. They throw a pick.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: That drive starts at like the 40-yard line, the Broncos 40,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: results in a touchdown. Then they miss a field goal.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Broncos score again, a touchdown. Then it's a 20-13 game,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: game over. The next week, The Rams, they're up 16-0
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in the second half. Broncos score a touchdown and get
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a two-point conversion. They make it 16-8. Broncos score again,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: get a two-point conversion. Now it's 16-16. But the Rams
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: are up 19-16 late in that game, and what happens?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford throws a pick six, and now the Broncos
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: are up 23-19. Chargers game. It's fourth and one at
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: their own 40. They're playing a team that can't move
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the football. Chargers go forward on fourth down. They get stuffed.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Broncos score. Broncos win. And the Seahawks game, all Sam
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Darnold has to do is not throw a pick. He
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: throws multiple picks. And the game's over. The pick in
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: overtime sets the Broncos up at the 40. for a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: game-winning field goal try. The Broncos didn't move the football
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: at all, didn't matter. Like, this is what I'm talking about.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They're seeing the way that they're winning, and they're seeing
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the level of play of Bo Nix right now, which
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: is terrible. And they're saying, well, you know what? As
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: long as we don't make the gigantic mistake, you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I've used this analogy before. If you've played ping pong,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not a very good ping pong player, but I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: can keep the ball on the table. And sometimes my
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: strategy is, if I'm playing against somebody else who's not
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: very good, I'm just going to keep it on the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: table until they make a mistake. And that's what the
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Broncos are doing. Colin Cowherd had a quote where he said,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the Broncos are taking pitching wedges off of, or on
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: par fives. Like, that's not going to get you a birdie.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But it might get you a par. It might get
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you a bogey. And if you're playing against somebody who's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: banging the ball around everywhere, you're probably going to win
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the hole. That's the strategy that they've taken with how
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: good their defense is. But I hope that Bo Nix
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: finds confidence in his ankle in a hurry because I...
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I would love to see what this team and this
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: defense specifically would look like, especially with Jonathan Cooper coming
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: back now. What that looks like with a more confident
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix under center. Never thought Bo Nix was elite.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: But what I have thought is he can be good
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: enough to win you a Super Bowl. Well, what we've
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: seen this year is not the case.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: That can't.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: If you find some confidence, maybe. Once again, a reminder
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to your keyword is beads. Like Mardi Gras beads. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: text that in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Your first keyword is for lower level tickets to the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: home opener. Every show has a pair of those to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: give away, but it also gets you in the running
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: for the best tickets we've ever given away. Section 104,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: row AA. You are in the seats directly behind the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Pelicans bench. So those names will call out tomorrow, but
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it all gets you qualified today. So text BEADS and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: your first and last name to 303-504-0925 back after this.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: All right, I got to get this out of the way.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: This is the periodic reminder now that all three teams
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: in this town are back playing at once. Texter says,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: nice to turn on my radio opening day of the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Nuggets and hear about the crappy Broncos.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: First of all, the Broncos aren't crappy. They're a very
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: good football team.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Second of all, this is your reminder that now that
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: all three teams are back in action again, I promise
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: we will talk about everybody.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: We will get there.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Just as, I'm sorry that you turned on your radio
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: at 6.35 this morning. If you did it at 6 o'clock,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: then you would have heard 20 minutes of Nuggets, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I will get back to that just shortly.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Broncos don't play till Sunday, so f *.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: * * that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: That is Mosher's approach to this, not mine. But if
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you aren't hearing the thing that you would like to
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: hear at the exact moment that you're trying to hear it,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I promise you, if you give it a few minutes,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: we will do it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I promise.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Like clockwork, every three to four months. You always give
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: some texture to the business for being like, oh, why
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: aren't you talking about insert team here?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: This I get, though, because now I want to make
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it clear to people at this point in the calendar,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: which is a wonderful time in the calendar, where basically
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: every night you turn on your TV and one of
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: your local teams is on.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Like, it's a great thing. We will get to everything.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: We will.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: And the best part of all that is you turn
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: on the TV and you're going to see, like you said,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: one of the three local teams playing. And you have
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: zero risk of accidentally turning on a Rockies game.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: It is perfect. That too.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: But do I get a little bit annoyed when people
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: are like, why aren't you talking about the thing I
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: want to talk about right now? And I was like, well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: if you were listening five minutes ago, you would.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Have gotten a lot of it. So everybody cheats.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I am not a jukebox, and I'm not a podcast.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: This eventually becomes a podcast. It eventually becomes a podcast.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's not a podcast now.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: So, um.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: With that in mind, we have those Nuggets tickets that
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: we're giving away all day today. So stay tuned on
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the 20s for all of those. I don't know what
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to do with this. It comes at a good time.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Cooper, though, showed up in the locker room yesterday.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: He is now off the commissioner's exempt list. I would
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: assume he's going to play. Now, I don't know what
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the rules have been, if he's been able to work
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: out and do all that stuff, but here's Jonathan Cooper
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: The situation that occurred.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: That's hard. I feel like, you know, relationships are difficult.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: No excuses on my end. And I do apologize for,
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: you know, anybody's feelings, truthfully, just because they have to
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: be associated with me. You know, I'm I'm a grown man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: I'm able to take things on the chin. And I
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: just want to say that I understand the concern. I
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: understand the level of awareness, how serious these matters are.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: But the legal matters will take care of themselves. And, yeah,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: things happen. You know, nobody's perfect. But there is also
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: there's no excuses. And I do hold myself accountable. And, yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: things are going to sort themselves out. I promise that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: So that's his statement in the locker room yesterday.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I do think that having him back can make a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: pretty huge difference, especially for a.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Guy like Nick Benito. He is someone that is.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Cooper's good. He is very, very good.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And especially with the loss of Jonah Ellis, who was
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: seen in a boot and on crutches after the last
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: game that he got carted off.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: He is going to help the Broncos defensively. But my
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: whole thing is, I'm not concerned about the Broncos defensively.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It is such a well-oiled machine that you can add
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: this piece and this piece and bring this guy back
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: in the lineup and Sertan practiced this week, but you
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: don't really know if he's going to go and Ufanga's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: still been.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Out of the lineup. And all these things, to me,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of like they'll figure it out. They'll
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: figure it out.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: The offense is the thing that if they got that going,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you are a next level team.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But it certainly comes at a good time for him
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: to return to the lineup because Jonah Ellis looks like
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: he's going to miss some time. And I've been a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: huge sort of supporter of what Q Robinson has done
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: in his snaps this year.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: But you need to have depth.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And you need to have the ability to turn guys
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: through at that edge spot. And when one guy leaves,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: another guy comes in, and I think it works out
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: really well.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Now, back to the Nuggets.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets who played tonight against the Thunder in what
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: will be, no doubt, a frustrating game.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: It always is.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets have a chance just tonight. If
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they get a win... and they get some performances from
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: some of the, quote, others on this roster, you have
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a chance to put some things at ease even after
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the first game. I think nobody would love anything more,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: or everybody would love, weird way to phrase it, everybody
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: would love going out and getting a win against the
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder. The team that has seen, like, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: don't know if they're the favorites in the Western Conference
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: because they lost to San Antonio last year.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I think they should be.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Even though San Antonio beat them, I still think that
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the Thunder is the best team in the league. Top
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to bottom, they can go 11 deep. They lost players
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: from last year, and it doesn't matter because they have
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: guys that they know can step in and play. If
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you can go out, and here's what I want to
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: see tonight. I want to see extended time for some
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: of these dudes off the bench. Not just like, hey, Joker,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you're going to sit to start the fourth quarter.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's now been a 8-0 run.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: All right, two minutes into the fourth quarter. Joker, get
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: back in there. I kind of want to see the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: team suffer a little bit. And suffer in this sense.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: You can't go back to the starters just to bail
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: you out. We've been on this train for, I don't know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: three or four years, whether it's Adleman or Michael Malone.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I think sometimes.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: They're so concerned with winning every single game on the schedule.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: It's a long season.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I think this year has to be one of those
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: where you let some of these guys like Whitmore or
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Diallo or Brazil or Hopkins or Bagley or Holmes or
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you pick. They have to be able to play through
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: their struggles. Even if that means you drop a couple
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: of games along the way in the regular season, you
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: can't have the quick hook on those guys because I
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: think they're going to be way too important once the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: postseason rolls around. I've talked about this mental rotation that
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Nuggets coaches have gone through with some of their younger
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: players or bench players. when the post season rolls around
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and it's like, why didn't so-and-so player didn't play? Cause
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I don't trust him. Well, why don't you trust him?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Cause he didn't play this year. Well, why didn't he play?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Cause I don't trust him. Why do you not trust him?
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Cause he didn't play.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And it just goes in that cycle and it's circular
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: and it never stops.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: And it never really.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Gives a guy an opportunity to show what he's worth.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: There are some guys that just play hard enough or
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: good enough where they just earn the.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Right almost immediately to get there. I think Spencer Jones
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: is one of those dudes.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Like Spencer Jones, when he got an opportunity, he made
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: it so you couldn't take him off the floor.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: But Spencer Jones is a high floor, low ceiling guy.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: When you think of like Trevin Brazil, he's got a
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: lot of potential. He might make some mistakes. You've got
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to let him play through it. I think of a
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: guy like Deron Holmes and Ivan. a big fear with Deron.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: You invested a lot to move up in the draft
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and take him in the first round, higher than what
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: your pick was. You gave away a lot of assets
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to do it, and then he had the Achilles, right?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Achilles or knee, I think it was Achilles. He had
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that injury his first summer league game, missed his entire
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: rookie season. Didn't really play last year. You need to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: see if that guy can play or not this year.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You have to give him a legitimate shot or else
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: you got yourself a giant Zeke Najee on the bench again.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: We're just going to be a guy that's there and
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you're like, well, is he going to play? And you're like, well,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: not really.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Can he play? I don't really know. Just a very
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: weird purgatory.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: You can't have him in that same spot too. give
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: these guys opportunities to fail and see if they can
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: find their way to make up for it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I think that's a really important aspect of this season.
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