Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #161 The Presence Centered Life (13 - Abiding in God's Presence)
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- 0:01That's why we are as Christians. We experience the presence of God.
- 0:05We find every single thing that we need there. It's so precious. It's so wonderful.
- 0:10Music.
- 0:11And then we see something, a little door opens into the world and the flesh
- 0:15and the devil, we get distracted and we just bolt.
- 0:19And for a day, for a week, for a month, for a year, we miss the presence of
- 0:27God and everything flows from the presence of the Lord.
- 0:34Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:39The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
- 0:49Well, welcome to the One Cry Podcast. I'm Kyle Reno. This is Bill Eliff.
- 0:54Bill, Bill, how are you doing today, buddy?
- 0:56Man, I'm doing good. I got my Bible.
- 0:59Yeah. I got my coffee.
- 1:01I got my little iPad, which is the source of everything that is in my brain.
- 1:10And I got a good friend. I got my good buddy right here beside me and all these
- 1:15wonderful listeners that are just sitting here saying, Hey, what you got for us today?
- 1:20Yeah. You ready to roll? I'm ready, man. Ready to roll.
- 1:24Well, you have, man, been a great guide on an awesome spiritual journey about
- 1:31the present centered life.
- 1:32And today, man, we are in one way sort of full circle, bringing it back to a
- 1:39truth about abiding, which made me think, listen, you know this,
- 1:43and we'll share this with our listeners.
- 1:45I'm married way out of my league, right? All my stars.
- 1:49More than most men. Thank you. I'm totally.
- 1:53I mean, most people are kind of like this. Yeah, yeah. And when you guys,
- 1:57it's like, you know. Yeah, yeah. You have always made it a point to make that point.
- 2:02Well, and it's not, you don't need to feel worse about yourself.
- 2:05It's just how incredible Katie is. I just want to say that in light of our friendship,
- 2:11though, you have always made that abundantly clear.
- 2:14But one of the things that still blows me away is every day,
- 2:20every day, how Katie and I, we've had this practice in our marriage, and it's because of her,
- 2:26that she wants face-to-face relationships.
- 2:32You know, and so it don't matter what my day's been like, what season we're in.
- 2:36It don't matter if we got five kids like and because of early days before there
- 2:41was kids, we adopted a practice of just learning how to be with one another
- 2:48and converse and engage.
- 2:51And it cultivated our relationship. So one of the I'd say one of the things
- 2:56that's been best for our marriage is learning how to be with one another and give priority to it.
- 3:02And that's because she won't like, you know, crazy. She wanted that relationship
- 3:05with me, which I don't completely understand.
- 3:08But I know that today, man, you're going to talk about the reality of that abiding
- 3:14relationship. So walk us into that truth.
- 3:16Right. And, you know, with our wives, with our mates, we we go to work.
- 3:22We do this, we run on air, but you look across the course of your life and you're staying put.
- 3:30We remain together. We're going to be together. And that's what God desires.
- 3:36Now, we've seen this foundational truth that God really wants this unbroken
- 3:44daily relationship with us.
- 3:49But we've got to cooperate with him. There are things we have to do in that.
- 3:54But his presence is what we most desperately need.
- 3:57And surprisingly, our presence with him is what he most desires.
- 4:03It delights him. He intends for this to be, right, this ongoing relationship in his presence.
- 4:12We've seen over the last weeks how God has pursued us. and then we begin to
- 4:17see how we must pursue him every single day.
- 4:22And Kyle, we've looked at these ways, if you could call it that.
- 4:28God has his ways, but the ways of a presence-centered man or woman,
- 4:34they're established and developed over time. We know how to draw near.
- 4:38We know how to stay in communication, to talk through the word and prayer.
- 4:43We know how to deal with sin through cleansing and clearing our conscience.
- 4:50We know that we need to be filled and controlled by the Holy Spirit,
- 4:53that we don't have enough to join him in his task and his work just on our own strength.
- 5:00And then as we saw last time, a present sinner man knows that this is all about joining God in his work.
- 5:09It's about seeing every day, just having your eyes open and your ear open because
- 5:14you're in the presence of God and you're praying without ceasing.
- 5:16You're listening and your heart is pliable.
- 5:20So when the spirit says, like he did to Philip, get up and go join that chariot.
- 5:25Or like he said, go talk to that waitress right there. Ask her how you could pray for her.
- 5:32Or put your arm around a colleague and say, are you doing okay?
- 5:37And just intervene. Just letting God move through you to do what he wants to
- 5:46do. And that's how God gets his work done.
- 5:48But there's one final truth we just must see.
- 5:54And it's the ways of a presence-centered man. we have to learn to abide.
- 6:04Now, Jesus in his final kind of, I call it the locker room talk of John 14 through 16,
- 6:14the disciples were afraid Jesus was leaving and he pulls them all together and
- 6:19says, hey guys, it's okay. Don't be afraid.
- 6:23Let me tell you where I'm going and I'm going to to get a place ready for you.
- 6:28And also, I'm going to send the Holy Spirit who's going to be with you even
- 6:37more than I could, 24-7, because he's going to be with you and in you.
- 6:42And he's going to give you the power to do everything that I ask you to do.
- 6:45So that's why I can say, as I give you the commission, I'm with you always,
- 6:50because my spirit is going to be literally inside of you. And then he comes in John 15.
- 7:00And he has this great discourse on this important principle of abiding.
- 7:08And let me just read a couple of verses. He says in verse four, abide in me and I in you.
- 7:16As the branch cannot bear fruit unless it abides in the vine,
- 7:20so neither can you unless you abide in me.
- 7:22I am the vine and you are the branches. which is he who abides in me and I in
- 7:29him, he bears much fruit for apart from me. Very important statement.
- 7:34You can do nothing, nothing, nothing that matters, nothing that lasts.
- 7:39And then he says in verse seven, if you abide in me and my words abide in you.
- 7:46That's communing, then ask whatever you wish and it will be done for you.
- 7:50Because you see, my will is becoming your will. and you're thinking what I'm
- 7:55thinking and you're doing what I'm initiating.
- 7:59So if you abide in me and my words are now abiding in you, you can ask whatever
- 8:05you wish and it will be done for you.
- 8:07And my father is glorified.
- 8:11He's magnified in this that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples.
- 8:17Now, the word abide means to remain in a stable or fixed position.
- 8:28Don't leave. Don't go away.
- 8:32Don't wander. Just to stay.
- 8:36I've got a little dog that I love, Rosie, the Wonder Dog, but I'm not going to,
- 8:43she doesn't abide real well. She has this terrible habit.
- 8:47Every time the front door is opened, she just takes off.
- 8:53And, you know, if I had done what I should have done, I would have trained her.
- 8:59And if I had trained her, I could say, stay, and she would just stay.
- 9:05But I watch people with their dogs say, stay, stay, stay, stay.
- 9:10And that dog is just fidgeting and running around. That's why we are as Christians.
- 9:14We experience the presence of God. We find every single thing that we need there.
- 9:19It's so precious. It's so wonderful.
- 9:21And then we see something, a little door opens into the world and the flesh
- 9:26and the devil, we get distracted and we just bolt.
- 9:30And for a day, for a week, for a month, for a year, we miss the presence of
- 9:38God and everything flows from the presence of the Lord.
- 9:43That's why in this passage in John 15, it's fascinating.
- 9:48Jesus uses the word abide 11 times in 10 verses.
- 9:55It's like the disciples were thinking, well, Lord, what about abide?
- 10:01Well, but he said abide. Well, what if it gets too hard?
- 10:05Abide. But what if problems come? Abide. But what if there's a better offer?
- 10:10Abide, abide, abide, abide.
- 10:12I just, the secret of a presence-centered life is a man who's learned to live
- 10:22in the presence of the Lord and to stay there.
- 10:27Now, why does Jesus have to remind us of this?
- 10:35Why does he have to say this 11 times in 10 verses to his disciples?
- 10:40Well, two things really pull us away. Number one, distractions. Distractions.
- 10:48We have these enemies and they're after us all the time.
- 10:53And the Bible describes them as the world, all its philosophies and ideas and
- 10:58baubles and attractions and temptations, the world, and then the flesh.
- 11:04He means by that our mere humanity, the weakness of our flesh.
- 11:10Those areas where we still have an unrenewed mind and untamed emotion and and
- 11:15unbroken will, and we just yield to our flesh.
- 11:19We give over to the cravings of the flesh, and it just pulls us away from the
- 11:24simplicity and purity of devotion to the Lord Jesus Christ.
- 11:28It pulls us away from the Lord's presence. And then the devil.
- 11:32And Paul was very clear about this. He said, your battle is not against flesh and blood.
- 11:36It's against principalities and powers and world forces of this present darkness
- 11:42and spiritual wickedness and heavenly places. He says, you've got to battle,
- 11:46and you've got to put on the armor against this, and you've got to pray at all times.
- 11:51You've got to remain in the presence of God at all times, commuting with him and talking to him.
- 12:00So distractions, if we're not careful. So I just want you to envision in your
- 12:05mind a young believer who's just come to Christ,
- 12:09and the world is still real strong and the flesh is still real weak and the
- 12:15devil is just trying to get him off track early.
- 12:18And so he just keeps bolting out the door.
- 12:23He experiences the presence of
- 12:25God. He comes to a worship service and he's just there and it's so rich.
- 12:30He reads his Bible and he meets with the Lord so rich, but he just bolts quickly.
- 12:37Versus a matured Christian who has just learned there's no place like home.
- 12:48There's just no place like home. There's no other place I want to be.
- 12:55And he knows how to abide.
- 12:59He knows how to recognize the distractions when they come and deal with them
- 13:05so he won't grieve or quench the Holy Spirit and move out of the presence of God.
- 13:12But the other thing that distracts us in this life and that pulls us away are
- 13:18not only distractions, but what I would just call difficulties.
- 13:22And I'm just lumping a lot of things in there.
- 13:26Trouble, tragedy, problems, conflict, hardship, confusing things that happen.
- 13:38And you say, why did difficulties kind of pull us away from the presence of God? God.
- 13:45Well, we're like growing children and something happens that we don't understand
- 13:50or that we don't know how to handle.
- 13:53And we don't know why it's happening.
- 13:57We can do one of two things. We can run to the Lord and he's got everything
- 14:03that we need, or we run away.
- 14:06We listen to what the world says. We come up with our own ideas. is.
- 14:10We get mad and irritated. We respond in the wrong way.
- 14:16But I want to tell you something. You know, Tozer said this.
- 14:20He said, it's doubtful if God can ever use a man greatly until he's hurt him deeply.
- 14:27Now, if you're not a strong believer, that little phrase might disturb you.
- 14:35But if you've walked with the Lord and you're secure in understanding his love
- 14:41for you and his faithfulness and the beauty of it,
- 14:48not the harshness, the beauty of his sovereignty.
- 14:53And you know that God, as Spurgeon said, God's too good to be unkind,
- 14:58and he's too wise to be mistaken.
- 15:01And when you cannot trace his hand, you can always trust his heart.
- 15:06And so when difficulties come, you draw near.
- 15:10It pushes you further. And you know, in light of those difficulties,
- 15:16you're going to get the right perspective.
- 15:18You're going to understand what's going to happen, and you're going to see the
- 15:22amazing sufficiency of Christ.
- 15:26And you're going to experience what Paul talks about in his Corinthian letters
- 15:31when he says, God comforts us in all.
- 15:35That word means comes alongside and helps us. He comforts us in all of our afflictions
- 15:40so that we may comfort you with a comfort we've received from God.
- 15:47God trains us in those times of difficulty, doesn't he?
- 15:52And instead of pushing us away, the presence-centered man, listen carefully,
- 15:58has learned how to abide.
- 16:02He's learned how to remain. He's learned how to stay put.
- 16:09He's learned that there's no better place. There's no substitute than coming close to the Father.
- 16:20There's nothing better to being at home in the presence of God.
- 16:29Years ago, when I first began to realize and the Lord began to show me that
- 16:34he lived inside of me and that he could live through me. And it was just a thrilling time.
- 16:39It was in the early days of the Jesus movement. And I remember hearing cassette
- 16:44tapes we had back then, Kyle.
- 16:46And they were, you know, I just listened to so many great men.
- 16:53And one of those was a man named Major Ian Thomas. And he quoted a poem,
- 16:57and I've never forgotten it. He said this.
- 17:02It goes like this. When Jesus died for me on Calvary, he paid the penalty for
- 17:08all of my sin, and he suffered all the pain my sinful heart gained,
- 17:12and now his spirit witnesses with him.
- 17:16I'm just a suit of clothes that Jesus wears.
- 17:20My body is the house in which he lives, And my voice is his to talk and my feet are his to walk.
- 17:28I'm just a suit of clothes that Jesus wears.
- 17:31He rose again to bring abundant grace, to justify us before the Father's face.
- 17:40I live no more, but he lives out his life through me.
- 17:46And I'm just a vessel that's fashioned by his grace. And so,
- 17:50as life goes on, I care not come what may.
- 17:54He carries all my burdens and my cares.
- 17:58For me, the battle's done, for he's the victory one.
- 18:05I'm just a suit of clothes that Jesus wears.
- 18:10I'm telling you, just sitting in that truth right there, one,
- 18:13we need that quote and that pull of whatever you might call it in the show notes,
- 18:18because that is fantastic truth.
- 18:21And if you rightly believe it, you would live into that.
- 18:24And I'm sitting here thinking, I mean, I studied years ago, Bill,
- 18:28John 15, where it talked about Jesus being the true vine, where the branches.
- 18:32And the reality is I studied how plants work.
- 18:38A branch doesn't pull resources or life from the vine.
- 18:43It merely avails itself for the vine to pour life into it.
- 18:47Its only responsibility is to stay open.
- 18:53And if the branch will stay open, the vine will always provide the life.
- 18:59And I'm just thinking about in light of the presence-centered life.
- 19:05God is not playing a game, and the Lord is looking to and fro across the face
- 19:10of the earth for those that might, through these things that you've taught these
- 19:13weeks, might position themselves for his presence.
- 19:19Man, so I just I wonder, Bill, in light of a sort of putting the exclamation
- 19:24point and I better probably to say the comma on this thought,
- 19:31would you just pray for our listeners and for ourselves and across our nation
- 19:36that that the Lord would awaken a presence centered people and and that we would
- 19:42take some tangible steps even coming out of this podcast today? day.
- 19:46Yeah. And, you know, I want to say to everybody, pray.
- 19:52We're wanting to put these truths in a book and maybe even a study,
- 19:57like a small group study.
- 20:00But more than that, I want to encourage you to recognize that these ways of
- 20:10a presence-centered man, man,
- 20:11if you're feeling off and you just feel like, man, something's not right in my spiritual life,
- 20:18evaluate yourself against these ways, right?
- 20:23Because this is not Bill's ways. These are just biblical ways right out of the scripture.
- 20:29And it may be you're not clean.
- 20:32It may be you're not communing. It may be that you're not being filled.
- 20:35It may be that you're not joining God, or it may be that you've been distracted
- 20:41or difficulties come and you're just not abiding.
- 20:44You know, so it becomes a great evaluative tool for you to keep going back and
- 20:50back to establish yourself.
- 20:54And so like the branch, you're just staying attached.
- 20:59And I thought as you were saying that, you know, for the Christian,
- 21:03it's not a it's not a pull technology.
- 21:07It's a push technology. It's not we have to pull it out of God.
- 21:12It's that God is pushing it through us as long as we're abiding,
- 21:17abide, abide, abide, remain in his presence.
- 21:22So, Father, we thank you for these rich truths.
- 21:29Lord, I just think about how just in my own life, how many men and women have
- 21:38poured these truths into me?
- 21:40How many years, Lord, of just you meeting us early in the morning and just adding
- 21:48one thing and another thing and another thing?
- 21:52And how many times have I sinned and you just showed me, Bill,
- 21:58when you walk away from my presence, it's always disastrous.
- 22:03How many times have you had to let me go to the end of myself till I turn in repentance?
- 22:10How many moments that I've stood up in my own strength when I needed to be filled
- 22:15with the Holy Spirit and you taught me a valuable lesson or times when I was
- 22:21filled with a spirit and you You moved in power.
- 22:25So, Father, we're just so grateful that you are molding us.
- 22:36Into the image of your son. You're more interested in doing that than we ever could be.
- 22:45And Lord, you'll just do it if we halfway cooperate with you.
- 22:51And I pray, Father, that all of us would aggressively cooperate with your activity,
- 22:59so that we could live and move in the presence of the Lord.
- 23:07Thank you for what you're teaching us. And we pray our lives will bear fruit.
- 23:13And just as Jesus told his disciples, hearing as my father glorified,
- 23:18that you bear much fruit and prove that you're one of his sons and daughters.
- 23:25And thank you in your precious name. Amen.
- 23:29Amen. Well, again, thank you to our listeners for giving us this time and going
- 23:34on the journey through this series on The Presence-Centered Life.
- 23:38I really want to encourage you, man, take time with these truths until you're transformed.
- 23:43I mean, because God is speaking to me. I got thoughts in my own,
- 23:46even in these last weeks, listening as Bill shared, it's called for great adjustments.
- 23:51And I feel, I would say to you, Bill, to encourage you, I told some people this,
- 23:56I feel closer in my friendship to God than I have in a while.
- 24:01I've been praying, been seeking the Lord by God's grace, been doing that,
- 24:04but I feel closer in just my friendship with God, just that He wants us to be with Him.
- 24:10So I encourage our listeners, man, make more time for Him.
- 24:13Share this. If you need additional resources, onecry.com is a great place to
- 24:18find resources in your journey toward personal revival and let somebody else
- 24:23know what God's doing in you and how He's using this podcast even in that story.
- 24:28So we look forward to being back here with you next week.
- 24:30Music.