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Saga Book Club #6: Volume 6 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:01
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to the Saga Book Club on…
• 0:08
  Tad Eggleston: 22 panels. Lee's… Lee's throwing a fist in the air, and not in the bad way. It was a pumped fist, not a… not a…
• 0:18
  Larry Woods: I'm excited, Fist, I'm super excited.
• 0:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it wasn't a Josh Hawley before running through the… the hallways fist, it was a…
• 0:29
  Tad Eggleston: It was a rah-rah fist.
• 0:33
  Tad Eggleston: But, yeah, Volume 6. Volume 6… might be…
• 0:47
  Tad Eggleston: Of the first 9, it's my favorite volume. It's not necessarily the best volume, but it's, like, it's the happiest volume, so it's my favorite volume, if that makes sense.
• 0:59
  Tad Eggleston: No, I mean, it's the one where…
• 1:05
  Tad Eggleston: Like, the hardest stuff is at the beginning, and the best stuff is at the end, so… so… so you get to…
• 1:12
  Tad Eggleston: A, you can feel that you're building towards happy, so even the hard stuff isn't as bad as it could be, because you can feel that momentum.
• 1:23
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, it also ends with, like…
• 1:28
  Matt: at least in saga terms, the super hap… I mean, you remember Wayne's World, and let's go with the super happy ending! Right.
• 1:37
  Tad Eggleston: That's what it feels like.
• 1:41
  belle price: Yeah, I think… I think I mentioned this earlier in the podcast, like, on earlier episodes, but for, like, the first three volumes, I remember saying, like, after the third volume, I was like, they're tying off all the stuff from the first volume. So since this is six, this is, like, the second time they're doing that. They're taking 4, 5, 6, tying off 4, 5, 6.
• 1:58
  Tad Eggleston: I don't.
• 1:59
  belle price: Feeling so happy, because there's so much conflict that's been building.
• 2:02
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I think also, you know, this shows us how aware…
• 2:12
  Tad Eggleston: Brian and Fiona are of the different ways in which
• 2:18
  Tad Eggleston: the comic is released, because every issue works as a single issue. I mean, if we'd wanted to, we could have gone…
• 2:27
  Tad Eggleston: Issue by issue, and we would have filled up the time. Easy. Right. Easy. No problem.
• 2:33
  Tad Eggleston: So, each, each comic works?
• 2:39
  Tad Eggleston: As a standalone story.
• 2:41
  Matt: each…
• 2:51
  Tad Eggleston: Trade paperback works as a standalone story.
• 2:54
  Tad Eggleston: each… Hardcover, which is 3 volumes, so 18 issues. This is the end of the second hardcover. Works as…
• 3:06
  Tad Eggleston: A pretty good standalone story.
• 3:09
  Tad Eggleston: And… and for that matter,
• 3:15
  Tad Eggleston: Each omnibus is gonna wind up working pretty well as a standalone story, because the first one already does, and there's only gonna be one more, so unless they completely fail at the end, which I just don't see happening.
• 3:30
  Tad Eggleston: Like, I have no doubt that they're sticking this landing, right?
• 3:35
  Tad Eggleston: Each 54-issue omnibus is gonna work well as a standalone story.
• 3:43
  Tad Eggleston: There's something really special about that, to manage to…
• 3:48
  Tad Eggleston: To package something so that it can be… Great in different ways.
• 4:00
  Tad Eggleston: sizes.
• 4:02
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, is the word I'm looking for.
• 4:05
  Tad Eggleston: But, yeah, this is… this is the… the overwhelmingly happy one.
• 4:11
  Tad Eggleston: Which is what makes it… Amazing.
• 4:17
  Tad Eggleston: Those are my initial thoughts. Anybody else have initial thoughts before we really… Start… digging in.
• 4:26
  Matt: No, that… I think you summed it up, dude.
• 4:30
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, we're done.
• 4:31
  Larry Woods: Oh, no.
• 4:34
  Larry Woods: I would definitely agree that, especially the readability, and this is not something that I really considered when I first read Saga.
• 4:41
  Larry Woods: is just how… Well it read as a trade paperback.
• 4:46
  Larry Woods: Cause that's when I got into it. It was… I think I remember it was, like, 2 or 3 years after they already had started, so…
• 4:54
  Larry Woods: I had already… I picked up Volume 1, and then literally finished it one night, and then the next day, went and bought every volume that they had available.
• 5:04
  Larry Woods: which I think it got up to, like, 5 or 6, I believe.
• 5:08
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 5:09
  Larry Woods: And then from there, I just collected the floppies. So…
• 5:13
  Larry Woods: It definitely, Tad, to your point of…
• 5:17
  Larry Woods: Reading the trade, those 4, 5, 6 issues, whichever volume is appropriate there, and even just individual
• 5:25
  Larry Woods: comics. It reads so well, like…
• 5:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 5:31
  Larry Woods: Whether it be a sad ending, a happy ending, an in-between ending, a cliffhanger, whatever the case, there's always something that's like, okay, but what's gonna happen next?
• 5:40
  Larry Woods: Like, still that drive to read that next issue.
• 5:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 5:45
  belle price: I totally agree with that, actually. That's why I binged it when I first read it. I read it online, on my iPad. Yeah.
• 5:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 5:53
  belle price: high school, and I didn't stop until I was done, and every so often, I would come to the landing, and yell down to my dad in his office, and be like, Dad! Can you believe they did da-da-da? And he's like, keep reading! Every time. Keep reading.
• 6:07
  belle price: reading, and then the last issue happened, and then I went.
• 6:10
  belle price: What?
• 6:11
  belle price: So, it was just a rollercoaster.
• 6:15
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and this, this also has one of my favorite, and it's not an opening splash quite, but the opening forepanel of this is just fucking nuts, with.
• 6:28
  Matt: With the farts. The farting.
• 6:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 6:31
  Tad Eggleston: This is… this is 2D Stinkfoot.
• 6:33
  belle price: This is so much.
• 6:34
  Tad Eggleston: foot, foot man who has very bad gas.
• 6:39
  belle price: Poppers.
• 6:41
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I, I occasionally think about
• 6:45
  Tad Eggleston: Asking my wife to make me a 2D stinkfoot.
• 6:49
  Tad Eggleston: T-shirt, but I think for it to really work, I'd have to convince her to do it in…
• 6:56
  Tad Eggleston: 4 colors.
• 7:01
  Larry Woods: Blessings.
• 7:02
  Tad Eggleston: As little red, green, and… puke yellow, as there is.
• 7:12
  belle price: I mean, the far…
• 7:13
  Tad Eggleston: Diarrhea yellow as there is, like, it's all totally essential. If you didn't do it at full color, it wouldn't work.
• 7:25
  Tad Eggleston: No, actually, I think one of the craziest things I've ever seen, I want to say, in a letters page, they had… because they have their cosplay editions.
• 7:37
  Tad Eggleston: you know, their annual cosplay contest, and I'm 99% certain that they had… I think it was in their letters page, I might have seen it somewhere else, but somebody cosplaying as the.
• 7:49
  Matt: 2D stink foot.
• 7:51
  belle price: That's…
• 7:53
  Tad Eggleston: I mean… I mean, it's also just… it's, it's total…
• 7:59
  Tad Eggleston: total, testament to, like, the depth of this book, that, you know, you have people cosplaying as a drawing by Hazel.
• 8:10
  belle price: Like, there for one panel.
• 8:12
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 8:15
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, there's a discussion of it on the next page. I mean, I love how it, like, continues that, that, like…
• 8:24
  belle price: It disrupts the whole glass.
• 8:26
  Matt: They should do a mini…
• 8:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but they're all laughing, and she's like, Hazel, I'm glad your vocabulary choices are slightly less inappropriate, which is the first great line there.
• 8:40
  Matt: Yes. I was like, oh, I can relate to that.
• 8:42
  belle price: But…
• 8:43
  Tad Eggleston: The assignment was to draw something that makes you feel sad. I know, Noreen, but nothing makes me sadder than how bad Tootie's toots smell.
• 8:55
  Matt: That's brilliant.
• 8:59
  Tad Eggleston: Which, I mean, it's… yes, it's brilliant, but it's not even the funniest hazel panel of this issue.
• 9:08
  belle price: Nope.
• 9:09
  Tad Eggleston: Because later in the issue is when she shows Noreen her wings.
• 9:15
  belle price: Nope.
• 9:18
  Tad Eggleston: I guess it's the next issue.
• 9:20
  Tad Eggleston: that we've got the crazy… the funnier line from her, because when Noreen… because Noreen passes out at the end of this issue.
• 9:31
  Matt: Yep.
• 9:32
  Tad Eggleston: Is it actually… no, wow, no, we don't them for…
• 9:36
  Tad Eggleston: Is it… is it 3 issues later?
• 9:38
  Matt: I think so. It's 3… yes.
• 9:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I completely forgot that this volume…
• 9:46
  Tad Eggleston: Has way more stories that… er, way more issues that stay in one place.
• 9:54
  Tad Eggleston: Rather than, like, 2 pages here, 3 pages there. But when she wakes up and, and, and…
• 10:00
  Tad Eggleston: And she's asked how…
• 10:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, where is that line? Oh, yes. Well, my mommy is from this planet, and my daddy is from the moon, and he loved her so much that he put his penis inside her, and then I got in my mom's tummy, which made her happy, except now she can't go in bounce houses because they make her go pee a little bit.
• 10:23
  Matt: Yeah.
• 10:26
  Tad Eggleston: I'm sitting there going, this is so crazy, particularly considering, like, she hasn't seen her mom since she was barely walking.
• 10:36
  Tad Eggleston: So, this is a mixture of things she's picked up from grandma and things she remembers from being a toddler.
• 10:44
  Matt: Yipper!
• 10:48
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, well, grandma or, or… Or,
• 10:52
  Tad Eggleston: Isabelle, it's so nice to have Isabelle back.
• 10:56
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah.
• 10:58
  belle price: My name's Lynn, I love her.
• 11:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. This is… this is… this is the… this is the volume where… where Hazel starts to… I mean, we've always had a little bit of Hazel's character, because she's the narrator, but, like, she really starts to flesh out in this volume.
• 11:13
  Matt: Yes, yes.
• 11:14
  Tad Eggleston: I love it.
• 11:16
  Matt: Hazel becoming the pig doctor was, like, one of my favorite Little segments.
• 11:22
  Tad Eggleston: Isabelle is the pig doctor, yeah.
• 11:24
  Matt: Yeah, I love that. It was so great.
• 11:28
  Larry Woods: Like I said.
• 11:29
  Larry Woods: I think we could swear on this, right?
• 11:34
  Tad Eggleston: I think I already have. I mean, I said penis.
• 11:38
  Matt: This isn't a swear word.
• 11:41
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, but…
• 11:43
  belle price: That's more scientific than anything.
• 11:45
  Larry Woods: Well, I'll give you that, you know. Yeah, there we go.
• 11:51
  Tad Eggleston: I love that… I've always loved that Saga is very trans-positive.
• 11:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yup.
• 11:58
  belle price: It's everything positive.
• 12:00
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yes, that too.
• 12:01
  belle price: Saga's just, like, such a… I don't know. It's the… what's the one comic I actually recommend to, like, all my friends? Like, anyone who reads… anyone who knows how to read, so literally everyone, I'm like, this… there's a space opera that you should read.
• 12:13
  belle price: Yeah.
• 12:14
  Matt: The only other comic that I know that's this trans-friendly is Grim Jack.
• 12:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 12:21
  Matt: I have not read anything else, and that might be my small, limited, what I've read.
• 12:27
  Matt: There's, there's…
• 12:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, there's, there's definitely, definitely other ones, but… but what I was gonna say, in terms of recommendations, is, like…
• 12:38
  Tad Eggleston: to me, there are exactly two comics that I'll recommend to almost everybody.
• 12:45
  Tad Eggleston: And really, one comic that I will recommend to everybody, and one comic that I will recommend to absolutely anybody over the age of 18, and most people over the age of 12.
• 12:57
  Tad Eggleston: So, Saga is the anybody over 18 and most people over the age of 12, and Bone is the absolutely anybody.
• 13:06
  belle price: Yup.
• 13:07
  belle price: And those are the.
• 13:08
  Tad Eggleston: Those are my two favorite books in the world. Those are the only two I have omnibuses for, they're the only two that are at college with me, like, those are good books.
• 13:15
  belle price: They're the books. With good reason. Yup. With good reason. Yup.
• 13:19
  belle price: Oh.
• 13:20
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you know, I can't believe, actually, that I haven't even thought about doing a Bone book club, so maybe when we get caught up on Saga, we should do Bone. Yeah, you have to.
• 13:30
  Tad Eggleston: Lee, have you read Bone?
• 13:32
  Larry Woods: I have not yet, unfortunately.
• 13:33
  belle price: Oh my god.
• 13:35
  belle price: Red Bone.
• 13:36
  Matt: I'm in if you do that. Yeah.
• 13:40
  Tad Eggleston: Bone is amazing as well.
• 13:42
  belle price: It's so good.
• 13:44
  Tad Eggleston: Similar length.
• 13:47
  Matt: Yeah, or at least…
• 13:49
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, no, it was 50 issues, so it's similar length to what we have from Saga now.
• 13:53
  Matt: Bone was only 50 issues?
• 13:55
  Tad Eggleston: No, it was 50 issues, exactly.
• 13:56
  belle price: It's like a one saga omnibus show.
• 14:00
  Tad Eggleston: It was 50 issues exactly, and then there were, I think, 3 one-shot, like, stupid, stupid rat tails.
• 14:08
  Tad Eggleston: And then the, the… Rose. The Rose…
• 14:11
  belle price: Yeah, there's rows, there's also a couple of, like.
• 14:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the Rose miniseries.
• 14:16
  belle price: I have those in my room upstairs.
• 14:18
  belle price: home, but I've got, like, a bunch of the offshoot books, too.
• 14:21
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 14:22
  Tad Eggleston: But, but those are… those are… I mean, none of them are… I mean, again, you got the stupid, stupid rat creatures is like…
• 14:30
  Tad Eggleston: A collection of shorts, and it's like…
• 14:33
  Tad Eggleston: It's essentially the equivalent of a four-issue collection.
• 14:38
  Tad Eggleston: Rose is probably the… equivalent of a… well, I think Rose was 5 issues.
• 14:46
  Tad Eggleston: Cause it did come out as single issues.
• 14:49
  Tad Eggleston: And then he, he did CODA… What, 10 years later?
• 14:57
  Tad Eggleston: And he did a couple of, of novels with pictures?
• 15:04
  Tad Eggleston: I want to say…
• 15:05
  belle price: I have my own handbook, too, and I own.
• 15:07
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, he… Yeah, he did a handbook.
• 15:09
  belle price: Okay, because that's the other part I was thinking of.
• 15:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:12
  belle price: Stupid Rat Creatures, I have rows, and I have one more, and I think it's the handbook. I think that's the third one I was thinking of.
• 15:16
  Tad Eggleston: He did, like, a kid's book…
• 15:20
  Tad Eggleston: centered on Smiley and a dream?
• 15:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, so there's a little bit more in the universe than just those 50 issues, but the main story is 50 issues. There's the 5-issue Rose prequel.
• 15:40
  Matt: that Charles Vest illustrated.
• 15:41
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 15:42
  Tad Eggleston: the, the, the stupid rat creatures is kind of, In-universe… shorts aside…
• 15:52
  Tad Eggleston: And then everything else is… is, like… A little bit different.
• 16:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's the best way to put it. I'd have to pull it all out to know… to get into deeper, and this is the Saga Book Club.
• 16:08
  belle price: Well, I have one more thing. Can I share one more thing about bowling?
• 16:10
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, absolutely.
• 16:10
  Larry Woods: Absolutely.
• 16:12
  belle price: Because you know what? It's my favorite comic ever, and it's always gonna be number one, only because it's his childhood character. I think it's so.
• 16:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah.
• 16:20
  belle price: Jeff Smith went and wrote a whole freakin' 50-issue omnibus.
• 16:23
  Tad Eggleston: well.
• 16:24
  belle price: Greatest comics ever.
• 16:25
  Tad Eggleston: This is a childhood character, and he's like… I mean, I sure…
• 16:27
  belle price: since he was.
• 16:28
  Tad Eggleston: I showed you, when you were here, the… the… the…
• 16:32
  belle price: My favorite.
• 16:34
  Tad Eggleston: I showed you my copy of… he released a collection, it's…
• 16:40
  Tad Eggleston: It started in publication as a comic strip in the Lantern at Ohio State. I showed you that while.
• 16:47
  belle price: Yeah, I've also read about those on the Bone Fandom. Well, but what I… but what…
• 16:53
  Tad Eggleston: But what I really mean is what I really showed you when you were here, like, in the Kickstarter edition, he included 3 mini-comics. Yeah. It included the Bone characters, the earliest of which he made when he was 8.
• 17:11
  belle price: He's like, what, 7, 8? Yeah.
• 17:14
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, they felt fully formed.
• 17:19
  belle price: So crazy to me.
• 17:21
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 17:23
  belle price: I had a character when I was little, I would draw Super Bell, and I would make my dad Superbell comics, and I bet you he still has them right in front of his spider… that one Spider-Man box down in the basement.
• 17:31
  Matt: I do.
• 17:32
  belle price: as a kid, that really resonated with me, that he took… because I think I found out.
• 17:36
  Tad Eggleston: So you're gonna become a chemist, a Nobel Prize-winning chemist, and a super bell cartoonist, is that what you're going for here?
• 17:44
  belle price: Oh, if I could be a cartoonist, that would be the coolest thing.
• 17:47
  Tad Eggleston: You're gonna take… you're gonna take Big Bang Level… Big Bang Theory to the next level?
• 17:56
  belle price: If anything, I'd write, and I'd have my dad draw, to be honest with you.
• 17:59
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, God.
• 18:01
  belle price: You kidding?
• 18:03
  Tad Eggleston: So… .
• 18:06
  Larry Woods: And if you catch me quiet, I'm literally looking up bone right now to By the way.
• 18:13
  Tad Eggleston: Lee's down the rabbit hole, going, what's this bone thing that I missed? They said it's all ages, so it can't be the bone I was initially thinking.
• 18:23
  Larry Woods: Nope, absolutely not.
• 18:27
  Larry Woods: Yep.
• 18:29
  Larry Woods: But it's actually funny, because I…
• 18:32
  Larry Woods: as it does relate to a bone of sorts, but I thought one thing that was, like, pretty endearing was interaction between
• 18:41
  Larry Woods: I don't know, I'm gonna butcher her name. Petriacor?
• 18:47
  Tad Eggleston: Patrick Horr.
• 18:47
  Larry Woods: the, the grandmother…
• 18:50
  Larry Woods: With Hazel in the prison, when it was, like, the sort of parts, as it were. So…
• 18:57
  Larry Woods: what was endearing to me was, even though it's an uncomfortable sort of situation, clearly Petracor didn't really care,
• 19:06
  Larry Woods: Maybe because she was so callous, but she still… Is that childlike curiosity?
• 19:12
  Larry Woods: It's like, well, but you have this, right? Going back to the whole idea of, like, mom can't go into a bouncy castle, because she has to pee, right?
• 19:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right? It's…
• 19:22
  Larry Woods: That childlike curiosity is sort of still being…
• 19:27
  Larry Woods: There, and even the hardened grandmother.
• 19:31
  Larry Woods: Excuse my language, but at least the way she's presented thus far, just being a complete Bitch.
• 19:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Larry Woods: very… just seems so soft, in a way. At least that's the way I read it.
• 19:42
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, the first… In a comic that's full of…
• 19:50
  Tad Eggleston: twists and turns and surprises. The first thing that really, really shocked me when I was reading this…
• 19:59
  Tad Eggleston: And, and like, even knowing it's coming still gets me every time, is at the end of this, this volume, where the only…
• 20:11
  Tad Eggleston: Wrinkle in the super happy ending, is…
• 20:17
  Tad Eggleston: Marco's mother saying, no, I'm staying.
• 20:21
  Tad Eggleston: Let me stay in prison and thrive.
• 20:26
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, Petrichor going, okay, I'll take your spot.
• 20:34
  Tad Eggleston: And then, obviously, leading to… to another… another scene of great confusion, because…
• 20:43
  Tad Eggleston: Hazel had allowed Petrichor to believe that it was her… her mother that was a horn, and her father
• 20:51
  Tad Eggleston: where…
• 20:52
  Matt: when…
• 20:53
  Tad Eggleston: And, and, and… Yeah.
• 20:58
  Tad Eggleston: But,
• 21:01
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, I was totally blown away, and every time, totally. And I don't think we're done with Grandma.
• 21:11
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we haven't seen her since this moment.
• 21:14
  Matt: I don't think.
• 21:16
  belle price: I'm excited.
• 21:16
  Tad Eggleston: I don't… but I don't.
• 21:18
  Matt: Not that I'm aware of.
• 21:18
  Tad Eggleston: her.
• 21:20
  belle price: I'm excited if she comes back. I liked Grandma.
• 21:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 21:25
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 21:26
  Tad Eggleston: And the will had better watch out.
• 21:31
  Tad Eggleston: Spoiler alert.
• 21:33
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Larry Woods: Just… yeah.
• 21:36
  Larry Woods: I still, like, fuck that guy. I'm sorry, he's…
• 21:40
  Tad Eggleston: Cuz, cuz, cuz, like…
• 21:42
  belle price: He gets his Fat Thor era here. I mean, we see him at his worst.
• 21:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. But, but, but grandma has taken no… no vows of nonviolence.
• 21:54
  belle price: Why would she do that?
• 21:55
  Tad Eggleston: That's my point.
• 21:58
  Tad Eggleston: No, I mean, she is reading Heist to, to, to prisoners, so, I mean…
• 22:05
  belle price: I mean, but that's just… her heart's in the right place. I mean, it's like… it's like… it's like Peacemaker, or like Deadpool, you know what I mean? His heart's in the right place. You know what I mean?
• 22:15
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes.
• 22:16
  Larry Woods: He just always fucks it up.
• 22:17
  belle price: When he has a heart.
• 22:20
  Tad Eggleston: When he has a heart, it seems to be in the right place.
• 22:25
  Larry Woods: When it regenerates, yeah.
• 22:27
  Tad Eggleston: Actually…
• 22:28
  belle price: I'm talking about the movie Deadpool, by the way, here, because that is, like, my comfort movie, that's my ultimate movie, and that is a love story, he says it right there, so…
• 22:36
  Tad Eggleston: See, my favorite of the Deadpools is Once Upon a Deadpool.
• 22:44
  Larry Woods: PG-131.
• 22:46
  Tad Eggleston: the PG-13 cut of Deadpool 2.
• 22:50
  Tad Eggleston: Where he kidnaps Fred Savage and puts him in the Princess Bride room.
• 22:57
  Matt: You haven't seen that.
• 22:58
  Tad Eggleston: It's… it's fucking hilarious.
• 23:01
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, somehow, in making the movie PG-13, they also made it so much… more wrong.
• 23:12
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, honestly, I gotta wonder about the parents that would allow their kid to see that version of the movie, but not the other.
• 23:23
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, I'm… I'm okay with him…
• 23:27
  Tad Eggleston: Violently kidnapping a… a celebrity to…
• 23:34
  Tad Eggleston: Reenact a movie from… or a scene from a 30-year-old movie to tell the story that's just as violent, but doesn't have as many sex jokes.
• 23:50
  Matt: Americans are okay with violence, they're not okay with sex, I don't know why.
• 23:54
  Tad Eggleston: I don't either.
• 23:55
  belle price: We can actually see that a lot in the way that anime and Japanese animation developed instead of American, but that's a conversation for another day. That's a really cool topic, though, to dive into.
• 24:05
  Tad Eggleston: It is.
• 24:06
  Tad Eggleston: I also loved… the, the… the teacher?
• 24:16
  Tad Eggleston: With, anyone who thinks… one.
• 24:20
  belle price: He's one of my favorites.
• 24:21
  Matt: That's what… that is my favorite quote from the series so far.
• 24:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Tad Eggleston: Anyone who thinks one book has all the answers hasn't read enough books.
• 24:32
  Matt: Yep.
• 24:36
  belle price: But yeah, I love her. She reminds me of my preschool teacher. I was not the most well-behaved kid in preschool either, and I had a lot of things going on, too, and…
• 24:43
  Tad Eggleston: Well-behaved kids in preschool?
• 24:46
  Tad Eggleston: You show me a well-behaved…
• 24:48
  belle price: I would agree.
• 24:48
  Tad Eggleston: preschool, and I'll tell you, a kid whose parents borderline abused them.
• 24:52
  Matt: I was evil.
• 24:53
  belle price: I was told I was… I was demon child. However, my preschool teacher
• 24:58
  belle price: And I had a similar relationship to, like, how Hazel and her teacher get along, and that is always so endearing to me to read. Like, warms my heart that, like, she had someone when she was that little that she could rely on, and, like, that knew what was going on, and, like, it just… it makes me feel, like, hope in my heart that there are good teachers and good people out there.
• 25:14
  belle price: Because I've also…
• 25:14
  Tad Eggleston: I hope so. I try to be one of them.
• 25:16
  belle price: Yeah.
• 25:17
  Tad Eggleston: It's hard sometimes.
• 25:18
  belle price: I don't doubt you are one, my mom's one.
• 25:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 25:24
  Tad Eggleston: You got two puppies in the room with you.
• 25:28
  Matt: Yes, I do. And they're finally quiet. They drive me crazy.
• 25:31
  belle price: Don't say that, don't say it too fast, knock on wood real quick. Yeah, for sure. You're gonna jinx yourself.
• 25:39
  belle price: Those dogs don't stay quiet for long.
• 25:41
  belle price: Let me tell you.
• 25:42
  Larry Woods: This is the part where I just want to go back to shitting on Will.
• 25:46
  Matt: Yeah, we can do that.
• 25:47
  Tad Eggleston: Shit on the wheel.
• 25:48
  Larry Woods: And mostly because…
• 25:50
  Tad Eggleston: You have to call him the Will.
• 25:52
  Larry Woods: The will, right, there's a… The will.
• 25:54
  belle price: I kind of like the disrespect of just going with people.
• 25:58
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, no, no, because there is a… there is a period in the book where he is just Will, but this part is… well, he's the Will.
• 26:08
  Tad Eggleston: He hasn't been stripped of it yet.
• 26:10
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, so I guess you're kind of shitting on him, but then… but then you don't get to… then you don't get to glory in when the universe shits on him.
• 26:19
  belle price: Yeah, well…
• 26:20
  Larry Woods: I mean… We're getting there.
• 26:22
  belle price: What's more shit?
• 26:24
  Larry Woods: But the reason why is because I think this is where Goose, like, is quickly becoming my second favorite character.
• 26:33
  Larry Woods: Behind Isabelle.
• 26:35
  Larry Woods: It's just… God, this little guy that…
• 26:39
  Tad Eggleston: With his chopper.
• 26:41
  Larry Woods: But this… so much heart, and we talk about heart and Deadpool, like, this guy…
• 26:46
  Matt: Yo?
• 26:48
  Larry Woods: I, I… I've been, like, as I reread it, and I'm still looking through the panels now, it's like.
• 26:54
  Larry Woods: Maybe it's just that underdog mentality.
• 26:57
  Larry Woods: That, like, he's not gonna… He's not gonna mess up well.
• 27:02
  Tad Eggleston: Tiny.
• 27:03
  Tad Eggleston: Mr. Goose is not sure who you think you are, but Goose swears on the buried treasure of the House of Goose that…
• 27:12
  Tad Eggleston: Sniffed.
• 27:15
  Tad Eggleston: FRENDO!
• 27:17
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:18
  Matt: I just, yeah, this is so great!
• 27:22
  belle price: Funko Pops that I still need one of.
• 27:26
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Tad Eggleston: I, I haven't.
• 27:28
  Tad Eggleston: It's… he's in his pajamas.
• 27:29
  belle price: I need it.
• 27:31
  Tad Eggleston: He's in this.
• 27:32
  belle price: I need it right now. I have, I have the money, it's right here.
• 27:36
  belle price: I need it.
• 27:39
  Tad Eggleston: It was a… it was a hot… topic…
• 27:43
  Tad Eggleston: exclusive, so I actually had to go…
• 27:49
  Tad Eggleston: to a hot topic, in order…
• 27:51
  belle price: That's shaky.
• 27:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yay.
• 27:53
  Tad Eggleston: But,
• 27:55
  Tad Eggleston: the… the Bad River site, they call it a 2018 Summer Convention exclusive, so maybe, maybe it was also at conventions. They have it…
• 28:07
  Tad Eggleston: For only 20 bucks.
• 28:09
  Larry Woods: What? Not bad.
• 28:11
  Tad Eggleston: Hell yeah.
• 28:12
  belle price: Hey, Christmas money!
• 28:15
  Tad Eggleston: Here, I'll show ya.
• 28:19
  Tad Eggleston: I just pulled it up.
• 28:21
  belle price: It's gonna be a Goose Funko Pop in a concert. That's Christmas money.
• 28:26
  Tad Eggleston: There you go.
• 28:29
  Tad Eggleston: In his pajamas.
• 28:31
  belle price: Oh my gosh! I…
• 28:35
  Larry Woods: Even in the box, he said to me.
• 28:37
  Tad Eggleston: I guess I did, I didn't send you…
• 28:39
  Tad Eggleston: I showed you, I showed you my, my, my Saga stuffed animals, but I didn't take you downstairs to see my Saga action figures.
• 28:47
  belle price: I didn't go downstairs at all.
• 28:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, cuz, cuz…
• 28:51
  belle price: Don't worry, I'm gonna… Toggle, I'll be back.
• 28:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I have all of the Saga Pops.
• 28:56
  Tad Eggleston: And I have all of the… there were 3 2-packs of action figures. There was a… a Will and Lion Cat, a Marco, and a Lana, and a…
• 29:07
  Tad Eggleston: Hazel and Isabelle.
• 29:09
  belle price: My dad has those.
• 29:10
  Tad Eggleston: So, I have all of those, too.
• 29:13
  belle price: But his are not unboxed, and they probably never.
• 29:15
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 29:15
  Tad Eggleston: Mine are totally unboxed. I kept the boxes. The boxes are on the shelf behind them.
• 29:23
  Tad Eggleston: But they are totally unboxed, because they're toys, and you need to be able to play with them. In fact, I can say…
• 29:32
  Tad Eggleston: that Marco and Alana have both piloted the Millennium Falcon.
• 29:38
  belle price: Worthy pilots.
• 29:40
  Tad Eggleston: This is what I'm saying.
• 29:42
  Larry Woods: That was not a phrase.
• 29:43
  belle price: I thought it was…
• 29:44
  Larry Woods: Right.
• 29:45
  belle price: This is the first time that's ever been uttered in the history of humanity.
• 29:49
  Tad Eggleston: No, because I've said it before.
• 29:51
  Tad Eggleston: See, see, the reason why I love… I mean, I sometimes get figures of different sizes, but the reason I love the 3.75
• 30:00
  Tad Eggleston: 4-inch series is from… for whatever, is that's the traditional Star Wars size, which means that that's the size that fits in my Millennium Falcon.
• 30:11
  belle price: Oh my gosh.
• 30:12
  Tad Eggleston: And that means that I can mix and match.
• 30:15
  belle price: That's awesome.
• 30:17
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 30:19
  Larry Woods: Can't argue with that logic.
• 30:21
  Tad Eggleston: Exactly.
• 30:22
  belle price: Particularly because, yep.
• 30:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 30:25
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly because I have the, the… the… and they're… they're a little on the big side for the Luminium Falcon. I mean, in terms of… in terms of piloting it well…
• 30:36
  belle price: Hazel's actually the best.
• 30:38
  Tad Eggleston: She fits perfectly.
• 30:42
  Tad Eggleston: -
• 30:43
  Tad Eggleston: But, yeah, no, I love that. That's one of the reasons I had to keep the boxes.
• 30:54
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, I will occasionally pull out the Millennium Falcon and random figures and set up scenes and just send silly pictures to people.
• 31:03
  Tad Eggleston: you know, particularly… particularly, like, a certain group of friends that I know will make them smile, that, like, if I know one of them's having a bad day, it's like, okay, here's your Captain America flying the Falcon.
• 31:15
  Tad Eggleston: Or…
• 31:20
  Tad Eggleston: That sort of thing, because, you know, I mean…
• 31:26
  Larry Woods: The whole thing.
• 31:27
  Tad Eggleston: I gotta have some excuse to have all of this money sunk into toys that I completely tore all of the value away from because I wanted to play with them.
• 31:39
  belle price: What's… what's the fun in that? It's life.
• 31:41
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you can find unopened toys in my house.
• 31:46
  Tad Eggleston: But that's mostly because a lot of the time, I'll, like, come across, like, a sale, and I'll buy, like, 5, and I'll only open up one right away, and the other 4 will kick around for when, I really want to open a toy today, and, oh, let's go… I'm gonna open this one!
• 32:05
  Tad Eggleston: just like I have lots of unopened packs of baseball cards in the house, because the joy is partially in opening them. So rather than, like, doing it all at once.
• 32:16
  Tad Eggleston: You buy the box of packs, you stick it on the shelf, when you need to open a pack.
• 32:22
  Tad Eggleston: You go open a pack.
• 32:24
  belle price: That's smart. We need to shit on the Will more, though, because he's in his Fat Thor era, and we really haven't.
• 32:28
  Tad Eggleston: He is. He is.
• 32:29
  Matt: Isn't this bad boy off.
• 32:31
  belle price: It's honestly kind of nice to see.
• 32:32
  Tad Eggleston: drugged out era.
• 32:34
  belle price: Yeah, it's literally his Fat Thor era, like, he's hung up on this girl, hung up on this chick.
• 32:39
  Tad Eggleston: Well, until he switches into… I mean, since it's supposed to be your first love that you see on heroin.
• 32:48
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, who?
• 32:50
  Tad Eggleston: How weird is it when it shifts from imagining his… his…
• 32:58
  Tad Eggleston: His, fling with the stock to talking to his sister.
• 33:07
  Matt: It's almost like him on heroin
• 33:11
  Matt: His heroine illusions, or hallucinations, are a better conscience to him than his own conscience would be.
• 33:21
  Tad Eggleston: Little bit of that, too.
• 33:23
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:30
  Tad Eggleston: And… and… The one chick who calls you on your bullshit.
• 33:35
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, here's my question.
• 33:40
  Tad Eggleston: Who… who's she talking about?
• 33:47
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I know who he winds up acting like she's talking about, and it's the more appropriate person for him to act like he's talking about, particularly given the romantic nature of the last few pages.
• 34:03
  Tad Eggleston: But I think she's actually talking about somebody else that just happens to be in the same place right now.
• 34:12
  belle price: I'm not following.
• 34:13
  Tad Eggleston: Well, when…
• 34:16
  Tad Eggleston: the hallucination of his sister tells him to go off and find the one chick who calls you on your… your bullshit. I think she's telling him to go back to Gwendolyn.
• 34:26
  Tad Eggleston: Or at least, that's what he winds up doing, but I think she's really talking about little Sophie.
• 34:33
  Matt: Oh… I think you're right!
• 34:37
  Matt: I didn't even cons… I didn't even connect that when I read this.
• 34:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah… You know, the one that really calls him on his bullshit…
• 34:51
  Tad Eggleston: is little Sophie.
• 34:53
  Tad Eggleston: Because among other things, I hate Gwendolyn as much as I hate the Will.
• 34:59
  Larry Woods: And they're so rife for each other.
• 35:01
  Matt: They really are.
• 35:03
  Tad Eggleston: Lee, you're up to date, right? You came back after the… okay, so you know why I hate Gwendolyn.
• 35:10
  Larry Woods: Oh, yeah.
• 35:12
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 35:13
  belle price: up to date.
• 35:14
  Matt: Boiler money.
• 35:15
  Tad Eggleston: I won't. Ugh.
• 35:17
  belle price: I have… I have not read it. I'll cry.
• 35:19
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 35:20
  belle price: I'll cry right now in my house.
• 35:22
  Tad Eggleston: When we get to Volume 10…
• 35:24
  Larry Woods: I didn't tell you about what…
• 35:26
  belle price: We're gonna go through… we're gonna go…
• 35:29
  Tad Eggleston: We're gonna go through some shit.
• 35:32
  belle price: I'm not ready! I'm not ready.
• 35:34
  Tad Eggleston: Gonna be going through some shit in Volume 7, and Volume 9, and a little less in Volume 8 that you already know about, but Volume 10, we're gonna go through some shit. But then…
• 35:47
  Larry Woods: Hazel becomes a rocker.
• 35:50
  Larry Woods: Huh.
• 35:51
  belle price: Don't spoil.
• 35:51
  Tad Eggleston: We'll spoil that.
• 35:52
  belle price: No!
• 35:53
  Matt: I've read that, so that's okay.
• 35:55
  belle price: I haven't.
• 35:57
  Larry Woods: So what chapter are you at right now, Bell?
• 36:01
  belle price: I don't remember. I remember reading a couple
• 36:05
  belle price: I think I remember… the last thing I remember is Squire…
• 36:09
  belle price: And that's it. And I'm not gonna say anything else, because my dad, I don't know if he's read it, but that was the last one I read.
• 36:14
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, if you've gone beyond 54, it was in issue 55 that the thing happened that made me absolutely hate Gwendolyn.
• 36:22
  Matt: So I don't remember what that was, but I have read it.
• 36:25
  belle price: Yeah, me too.
• 36:28
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we'll wait… we'll wait to get there, because…
• 36:31
  Tad Eggleston: I don't feel like pulling up the picture right now.
• 36:35
  Tad Eggleston: But when we get there, we're…
• 36:38
  Larry Woods: And you know you'll know.
• 36:40
  Tad Eggleston: Mmm.
• 36:41
  Larry Woods: Then it becomes… Is that when we start doing the single-issue podcast?
• 36:49
  belle price: Honestly!
• 36:53
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think we have to at least catch up before we do single issues, though at the pace we're going, we might be catching up about the time that they come back to single issues.
• 37:03
  Matt: I was tracking that, actually, and I'm like, that's kind of cool.
• 37:07
  Tad Eggleston: So, we might finish up as a single issue. That's cool.
• 37:11
  Matt: All the better to invite Fiona and Brian to.
• 37:16
  belle price: Yes.
• 37:17
  Tad Eggleston: I gotta, I gotta pull out my typewriter and properly write them a letter.
• 37:23
  belle price: Yeah.
• 37:24
  belle price: Can I draw them a picture for you to include?
• 37:27
  Tad Eggleston: We could all send separate letters inviting them, and see which of us they.
• 37:33
  belle price: I like that idea. That's a great idea.
• 37:36
  Matt: And we'll call it the 22 panels… 22 letters! Fiona or Brian to join us contest. We could do 22.
• 37:43
  Tad Eggleston: 2 candles, 22 letters, and we could each send letters. We'd have to find more people.
• 37:48
  belle price: It'd be…
• 37:48
  Tad Eggleston: To do that, we gotta find 22 people to send them.
• 37:51
  belle price: I turned 22 this year, do you have 22 friends?
• 37:55
  Matt: 21 times, you count.
• 37:57
  belle price: I count.
• 37:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 38:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, technically, how many people are on… on, like, this invite? I mean, we haven't had all of them join us, but this is… this is, I think, second to…
• 38:14
  Tad Eggleston: second to the Joy, Resistance, Hope, and Survival Book Club.
• 38:18
  Tad Eggleston: For the most people on the invite.
• 38:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, there's 16 people on this invite.
• 38:25
  Larry Woods: And admittedly, one of them is just the 22 panels address.
• 38:30
  Tad Eggleston: But that means 15 other people.
• 38:34
  Tad Eggleston: on this invite.
• 38:35
  belle price: Alright, 7 more.
• 38:38
  belle price: distance.
• 38:39
  Larry Woods: So that's an interesting question then, right? Not just the letters, because I'll share this. I don't get starstruck that easy.
• 38:48
  Larry Woods: But… And Ted can attest to this, one of the few times I've ever been starstruck
• 38:54
  Larry Woods: And I can count it, 2 people.
• 38:56
  Larry Woods: It was Joe Kelly on his podcast, And Garth Ennis.
• 39:02
  Larry Woods: Who I met.
• 39:03
  Tad Eggleston: I got to meet Garth Ennis.
• 39:04
  Larry Woods: I got to meet Garth Ennis at a local con, I think it was, like, Fan Expo, and he was just the nicest, most chill guy, and I blabbered like an idiot. I just… I could not… he's like, what do you like to read? I'm like, all your stuff. He's like, well, I have books here, like.
• 39:20
  Larry Woods: Yeah, what do you recommend?
• 39:21
  Tad Eggleston: That one? That one? That one.
• 39:23
  Matt: Yeah.
• 39:23
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I haven't read that one, let me buy it.
• 39:26
  Larry Woods: Well… But…
• 39:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I tend to be that way too, but I've had a couple… I… the first time I talked to Klaus Jansen, I really kinda…
• 39:38
  Tad Eggleston: got really… tongue-tied. Enough so… enough so that the second time I talked to him, I literally had… had…
• 39:48
  Tad Eggleston: A mutual friend of ours make… make the reintroduction.
• 39:55
  Tad Eggleston: I still haven't managed to get him on the show, so I don't know if I've managed to be untongue-tied enough.
• 40:05
  belle price: Would you be starstruck by Brian and Fiona, though? I would.
• 40:08
  Larry Woods: Oh, 100%, which is why I bring it up. So, like.
• 40:12
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe.
• 40:13
  Larry Woods: I 100% would. I would. For sure.
• 40:16
  belle price: Jeff Smith, too, same thing for me, personally.
• 40:18
  Tad Eggleston: Well, see, see, that's the reason why I'm not certain that I would be, because I really, really expected to be starstruck by Jeff Smith.
• 40:28
  Tad Eggleston: And…
• 40:30
  Tad Eggleston: it turned out that, like, between knowing his work so well, and the type of guy he is, which Brian and Fiona both seem to be that laid back to…
• 40:42
  Tad Eggleston: We fell into an easy rhythm immediately.
• 40:47
  Matt: That's awesome.
• 40:49
  Tad Eggleston: You know… .
• 40:51
  belle price: That's so cool.
• 40:52
  Tad Eggleston: That's part of the reason that I'm not as worried about it, like, it's become one of my questions. I ask people for their surreal comic experiences, because I have so many of them, headed by the fact that, like.
• 41:07
  Tad Eggleston: There are a number of people that I would have expected to be so starstruck around that I was never able to develop any sort of rapport with them.
• 41:17
  Tad Eggleston: that are, like… Friends.
• 41:22
  Tad Eggleston: Not just people I've talked to, but, like… people I text with.
• 41:28
  belle price: That's so cool.
• 41:28
  Tad Eggleston: Y-you know? So… I, I, I, I…
• 41:35
  Tad Eggleston: And what's awesome is, like, none of the shine has come off.
• 41:39
  Tad Eggleston: Like, I still adore them creatively as well.
• 41:43
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you saw me with Marcus last night.
• 41:47
  Tad Eggleston: Lee, you know, I mean, I have nothing but…
• 41:51
  Tad Eggleston: the highest respect for Marcus as an artist. You know, if anything, I like him more as an artist now than I did when I met him, and I had high… high opinion of him then.
• 42:07
  Tad Eggleston: But he's also one of my best friends.
• 42:11
  Tad Eggleston: Like, legit, just one of my best friends.
• 42:16
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 42:19
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not saying that we'd pull that off with Mark, er, with Brian and Fiona, and, like, if you're listening, Brian and Fiona, I'm not trying to say, hey, we need to sucker you into becoming our best friends, we'd be happy just to talk to you. We're not stalker crazy types.
• 42:34
  Larry Woods: Speak for yourself.
• 42:35
  belle price: Yet.
• 42:36
  Tad Eggleston: Says the psychologist.
• 42:39
  Matt: No, I…
• 42:41
  Larry Woods: So here's the… wait, actually, before I even ask my question, do we know for sure that BKV, Brian, and Fiona, like, listen? Do we know that?
• 42:51
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, God, no.
• 42:52
  Larry Woods: Oh, okay.
• 42:53
  Tad Eggleston: That's me messing around. That's me messing around.
• 42:56
  Larry Woods: Yeah, secondhand starstruck there.
• 43:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, there is always the possibility, particularly if we have a letter-writing campaign, that they could decide to go back and listen before, or at least pick, like, an episode.
• 43:12
  Tad Eggleston: You know, it wouldn't be the first time that one of the guests had decided to listen to an episode before coming on, and a handful of my guests have become
• 43:21
  Tad Eggleston: semi-regular listeners.
• 43:24
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 43:25
  Tad Eggleston: But… but no, I don't know… I've had no contact with BKV or FE… well, no, that's not true. I have had brief, brief contact with BKV, because he had some…
• 43:41
  Tad Eggleston: hardcovers… Of spectators available for people on his… Substack.
• 43:50
  Tad Eggleston: And he said, like, best comment, you know.
• 43:53
  Tad Eggleston: And I shout out to him, you know, don't necessarily consider me for a hardcover, because I already ordered mine from my LCS, so I've got one coming. But, I gotta tell you, you know, you've got…
• 44:08
  Tad Eggleston: you know, the dearly departed hamburger, and now milkshake, and my dog's potato. And he, he loved that my dog was potato.
• 44:18
  Tad Eggleston: So there… there are… there are two comic creators that love that my dog is Pictato. The other's Chip Zdarsky, but my… my dog's full name is Barbecue Baked Potato Chip Zdarsky. So, like.
• 44:33
  Matt: data for short. Yep.
• 44:35
  Larry Woods: Right. So, here's the.
• 44:36
  Matt: Remember when the vet calls, do they say there's an appointment for?
• 44:39
  Larry Woods: Potato.
• 44:40
  Matt: Potato?
• 44:41
  belle price: I'm busy now.
• 44:42
  Larry Woods: So, here's the question I have for the group, then, is…
• 44:46
  Larry Woods: if we just imagine for a moment that we are able to get Brian and Fiona on the podcast.
• 44:54
  Larry Woods: Is there a specific question that you would like to ask them?
• 44:58
  Larry Woods: Like, what would be the question that you would want to ask them?
• 45:00
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I know the first question I'd have to ask.
• 45:03
  Tad Eggleston: I would tell Fiona, what I imagine about how the hiatus come about…
• 45:10
  Tad Eggleston: Has always been that you drew issues
• 45:14
  Tad Eggleston: Right, I'd even preface it, like, in the back matter of the first book, when you talk about how an issue of saga comes about…
• 45:23
  Tad Eggleston: you know, it was revealed that Brian kind of knows the whole story, and you prefer to go issue by issue.
• 45:30
  Tad Eggleston: So the first time you're reading it is when you're prepping to draw it.
• 45:34
  Tad Eggleston: And given… the… content of issues 52, 53, and 54, where Brian kicked us in the stomach
• 45:48
  Tad Eggleston: knocked us down, and then smashed our heads in. I have always imagined that the way that the hiatus came about was you finished
• 46:01
  Tad Eggleston: drawing issue 54, sent it off to Brian, picked up the phone and called him and just said, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, I'm taking a break, and hung up on him.
• 46:14
  Matt: That sounds about right.
• 46:15
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, my question is, how far off of the truth am I?
• 46:24
  Larry Woods: That'd be a good one to have answered.
• 46:28
  belle price: I don't know, I think… Oh god, I'd have to ask about…
• 46:34
  belle price: where the inspirations came for specifically Marco, Alana, and Hazel. Like, what… like, who… like, as, like, a person, or, like, who in the real world, like, what characters inspired these characters, or what, like, people in your life inspired these characters?
• 46:50
  belle price: I don't know. That's kind of an interesting thing I'd like to know.
• 46:59
  Tad Eggleston: Matt's gonna ask about balls.
• 47:02
  Tad Eggleston: I can tell.
• 47:02
  Matt: Yeah. Giant scrotum sacks, yeah.
• 47:05
  Tad Eggleston: So, Fiona!
• 47:08
  Larry Woods: Thank you.
• 47:08
  Matt: Dude, like.
• 47:09
  belle price: Talk about FARD.
• 47:13
  Larry Woods: So, I think for me, it…
• 47:17
  Larry Woods: I think it's gonna be a little bit of both, probably more so towards Brian than Fiona, but still relevant to her, is…
• 47:27
  Larry Woods: Like…
• 47:30
  Larry Woods: for me, personally, whenever I dislike a character so much, I'm most drawn toward them, excuse me. So, like, obviously I love Hazel, I love Goose, I love Isabelle, like, by far some of my favorite characters. And we clearly know how I stand on the will, I guess.
• 47:51
  Larry Woods: Let's shoot on.
• 47:52
  Matt: him some more.
• 47:54
  Larry Woods: But… That, to me, also just screams to, like, the…
• 47:59
  Larry Woods: The portrayal of him, the writing of him.
• 48:02
  Larry Woods: So, like, to me is… I would want to know… What is it that…
• 48:08
  Larry Woods: Obviously, I'm gonna feel the way I feel about them, and I'm gonna perceive them the way I perceive them, but I wanna know, what is it that they're trying to portray
• 48:16
  Larry Woods: How are they trying to portray him to me?
• 48:19
  Larry Woods: Right. Because I want to ask, too, like, am I off? Should I like this guy? Like, and then…
• 48:26
  Larry Woods: I wanna know that.
• 48:28
  Larry Woods: It's like, what is it about these characters I don't like?
• 48:31
  Tad Eggleston: I do think there's that brief period where you're supposed to like him after he saves little Sophie.
• 48:38
  Tad Eggleston: And there's that brief period where you're supposed to like him while he's a tortured hostage
• 48:48
  Tad Eggleston: For the guy he killed while saving Sophie.
• 49:00
  Tad Eggleston: Which, frankly.
• 49:04
  Tad Eggleston: those are the two parts of the book that I am angriest to Brian about. I am more angry about
• 49:12
  Tad Eggleston: being tricked into briefly rethinking my feelings on the will. Not once, but twice.
• 49:22
  Matt: Valid.
• 49:25
  Tad Eggleston: than I am about what the will did that made me hate him forever.
• 49:29
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 49:30
  Tad Eggleston: Because I was always expecting him
• 49:35
  Tad Eggleston: To either do that or die trying.
• 49:38
  Tad Eggleston: It was in no way out of character. Except…
• 49:42
  Tad Eggleston: Twice! You really teased the idea!
• 49:46
  Tad Eggleston: That maybe he was gonna have some kind of personal growth.
• 49:52
  Matt: Redeemable quality.
• 49:57
  Larry Woods: And that's, like, for me, I think you even said this before, Tad, to sort of circle back to something you said on a previous episode, is that…
• 50:06
  Larry Woods: Brian Kvon does an excellent job of just coming out of nowhere and kicking you in the butt.
• 50:11
  Larry Woods: Fucking stomach on this, man. He takes the wind off.
• 50:13
  Tad Eggleston: false.
• 50:14
  Tad Eggleston: Makes you in the ball.
• 50:15
  Larry Woods: fault.
• 50:16
  Larry Woods: The balls, the metaphorical balls.
• 50:18
  Tad Eggleston: Or wherever it hurts.
• 50:19
  Larry Woods: most for Bell.
• 50:20
  belle price: figurative balls.
• 50:22
  Larry Woods: Figurative, literal.
• 50:24
  Tad Eggleston: There we go.
• 50:26
  Larry Woods: Don't hurt.
• 50:27
  belle price: But, again, it's like…
• 50:30
  Larry Woods: he does it so well with the will, because I have felt bad for him, and I don't want to focus too much on him, because…
• 50:37
  Larry Woods: at this point, I don't want to seem like I'm trashing the world, because I think he is such a fascinating character.
• 50:43
  Larry Woods: But I want to know, is that what Brian's trying to do to me? Right? Is he trying to get me to feel something for this guy in order just to fucking punch me in the gut? Again?
• 50:54
  Larry Woods: Right?
• 50:55
  Larry Woods: And I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna read it, and I'm gonna feel the things. And I'm gonna be mad, but I'm gonna keep reading. So, like, for me, that's a part of…
• 51:04
  Larry Woods: At least for me.
• 51:07
  Larry Woods: what is it that… what's his plan? Like, what does… what role does the will play
• 51:13
  Larry Woods: in the story, the saga that I'm reading.
• 51:17
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you know he can't answer that entirely until we get Oh, yeah.
• 51:22
  Larry Woods: Oh, oh, for sure.
• 51:24
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not even that chewing.
• 51:25
  belle price: Letters, though, toward the end, and see if they can come on…
• 51:29
  Tad Eggleston: He'll be like, ask me again in 3 years.
• 51:33
  Larry Woods: Like, come on, man. Yep.
• 51:37
  Larry Woods: But yeah, that would… that would probably be my question, for sure.
• 51:49
  Tad Eggleston: This has… this volume also has one of my…
• 51:53
  Tad Eggleston: One of, if not my favorite cover.
• 51:57
  Tad Eggleston: I love, love… love.
• 52:01
  Tad Eggleston: Have the t-shirt of… Chapter 34.
• 52:07
  Tad Eggleston: goose fishing off of Frendo.
• 52:12
  belle price: t-shirt.
• 52:16
  Larry Woods: I love goose so much.
• 52:18
  Tad Eggleston: this one.
• 52:19
  Tad Eggleston: It's just so beautiful.
• 52:23
  Larry Woods: Yep.
• 52:25
  Larry Woods: It's… serenity. It just feels like so much… So peaceful.
• 52:32
  Matt: Do you have a shirt like that, Chad?
• 52:34
  Tad Eggleston: I have 2 of them.
• 52:35
  Matt: Because I had…
• 52:36
  Tad Eggleston: I had Kelly make me one, where she did an iron-on on on a tie-dye, but then they made it available through their threadless shop, and I bought one.
• 52:47
  belle price: fire.
• 52:47
  Tad Eggleston: So that's the other thing that you should consider, Bell, and I know Lee… I told Lee I'd show him this, because he wound up
• 52:58
  Tad Eggleston: finding a couple at the store, and I'm like, dude, there are more and better ones.
• 53:04
  Larry Woods: Yep.
• 53:04
  Tad Eggleston: The… the… have you, have you gone to the Saga Threadless shop?
• 53:08
  belle price: No.
• 53:09
  Larry Woods: No, I haven't. I forgot about it.
• 53:11
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, let's share that screen really quick.
• 53:15
  Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, at least during the last run, they would, like…
• 53:19
  Tad Eggleston: Have one-month runs of every cover.
• 53:23
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't actually do any of them, but… but, I mean, so… so we've got our lion cat.
• 53:28
  Larry Woods: Hell yeah.
• 53:28
  Tad Eggleston: I love the Mistook. That's the… that's the band that, the… the… the girl…
• 53:37
  Tad Eggleston: The dance instructor had on her shirt.
• 53:40
  Tad Eggleston: You got the goose…
• 53:42
  Tad Eggleston: You got the goose on the island, you got the cover one. I actually love this one.
• 53:47
  Tad Eggleston: Landfall underneath.
• 53:49
  Tad Eggleston: On the Saga shirt.
• 53:51
  belle price: That's a cool shirt.
• 53:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I think this is, what, issue 8, with the bubblegum?
• 53:57
  belle price: These are all cool shares, they're like full prints of art. Okay, I have that Lion, Cat, and Will cover. I have that book on my wall.
• 54:03
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 54:05
  Tad Eggleston: I still need to get this one, 39.
• 54:07
  Tad Eggleston: She's in the next volume.
• 54:09
  Tad Eggleston: But with Petrichor.
• 54:11
  Tad Eggleston: I love the, the, the Isabel Hirosa shirt.
• 54:15
  Tad Eggleston: I have one, too. I actually have two of those, because I've got the black…
• 54:19
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I've got both the red one and the black one.
• 54:23
  Tad Eggleston: For that. So… Yeah.
• 54:27
  belle price: I think I need an Isabel Pyrosa shirt today.
• 54:30
  Larry Woods: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I was thinking the same thing.
• 54:34
  Tad Eggleston: Well, $22.95… For the fitted…
• 54:40
  Tad Eggleston: They actually regularly have sales, so if you decide to wait, you know, there's a good chance that you'll be able to get it for, like.
• 54:47
  Tad Eggleston: 12 or 14…
• 54:50
  Larry Woods: They look like the hoodies.
• 54:53
  belle price: Can I just say, though, real quick, before we… I don't know how long we have, but…
• 54:56
  belle price: I want to quickly mention back to Saga, because there's a lot of the, I did my iOS on my iPhone with Saga a long, long time ago. I still think I need to send it to you guys, but…
• 55:06
  belle price: my home screen, the page I look at the most, is dedicated to Alana, Hazel, and Marco, and, like, their family unit. And the… this full-page spread where Marco and,
• 55:18
  belle price: Hazel reunite, and she's just going, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy! And it says, she loved being home. That's, like, on my home screen, and I love that. I love that spread so much, even, like, I look at it every day. It's on my phone every day. I, like, wake up, I look at it.
• 55:32
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, I did not realize that there are… this is the version of the mistook shirt I have, the multicolor one.
• 55:40
  belle price: Coming across it.
• 55:42
  Tad Eggleston: But I did not realize that there are, there are, are, are baby sizes.
• 55:47
  Matt: Whaaat?
• 55:48
  Tad Eggleston: Baby and toddler sizes. I might… I don't have any babies in my life at the moment, but I do have…
• 55:55
  belle price: Do you have toddlers.
• 55:57
  Tad Eggleston: And, well, I guess they're not really toddlers. I have a 4- and a 6-year-old, they might need…
• 56:03
  Tad Eggleston: They might need Goose t-shirts at some point, or Pyrosis logo t-shirts.
• 56:12
  Larry Woods: Yeah, that's gonna happen.
• 56:13
  Tad Eggleston: Even if they don't know what they are yet.
• 56:18
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they've been playing with my stuffed goose since…
• 56:22
  Tad Eggleston: They were young, and sometimes with a lion cap, but they liked the goose better.
• 56:27
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 56:31
  Tad Eggleston: So, they haven't done a lot of Saga merchandise, but what Saga merchandise they've done…
• 56:36
  Larry Woods: Top notch.
• 56:38
  Tad Eggleston: Top notch, yeah. Yeah.
• 56:46
  Tad Eggleston: Do we have any other… I mean, I feel like we've managed to talk for, like, an hour without saying a lot other than.
• 56:54
  Tad Eggleston: Happy, cool.
• 56:56
  Tad Eggleston: Now with Saga, we don't get to say happy very often, so that's probably one of the reasons that…
• 57:04
  Tad Eggleston: That we've been like that for this episode, but is there anything in particular that people want to jump to?
• 57:13
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't see any tiles that would have caught Bell's attention this issue. I was looking for them.
• 57:19
  belle price: I already…
• 57:20
  Tad Eggleston: fruit.
• 57:20
  belle price: in my full-page spread that I was gonna talk about while you were doing…
• 57:24
  Tad Eggleston: Which one?
• 57:25
  belle price: So, the one where she's hugging Marco, and…
• 57:28
  Tad Eggleston: Whoa.
• 57:28
  belle price: Reunite. I already gave my last spiel.
• 57:31
  Tad Eggleston: The, the daddy, daddy, daddy.
• 57:33
  belle price: Yeah, it's just, it's adorable! I mean, like, she's so bad. She literally has not seen him in, like, years. Wow.
• 57:39
  Tad Eggleston: I…
• 57:40
  belle price: And it's like, yeah.
• 57:41
  Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, I mean, I love it from the dad's standpoint, because it's like, initially, he's like, he's been so…
• 57:49
  Tad Eggleston: Set on this for so long that he's got the doll, and he's like.
• 57:53
  Tad Eggleston: So, I've been carrying this around for you, and now I feel really dumb, because you look so different that I'm…
• 58:02
  Matt: How do you realize this?
• 58:03
  Tad Eggleston: You may or may not even remember this anymore.
• 58:08
  Tad Eggleston: Do you know who I… DADDY!
• 58:16
  Tad Eggleston: My only thought, is speaking of, like, looks.
• 58:21
  Larry Woods: Just Marco with a beard, man.
• 58:24
  belle price: Yeah!
• 58:25
  Matt: Here's gotta go.
• 58:27
  Larry Woods: Didn't know I needed that. I was like, alright, bro, I see you.
• 58:31
  belle price: And then a lot of Gotta go.
• 58:34
  Tad Eggleston: as soon as they break their unspoken vow. Right. I love… I love how… I love how Isabelle, or, Hazel, talks about that, too. She's… she's like…
• 58:45
  Matt: My parents always did suck at vows.
• 58:48
  belle price: I'm really good at vows. It's like, aww.
• 58:51
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 58:53
  belle price: I like that they alluded when they were, like, as Marco and Alana were, like, trying to save Hazel together, like, it was kind of like a montage of them saving Hazel, right? You could tell it was a montage, but I like how they alluded to even more adventures that we didn't get to see when Prince William, and they're like, yeah, we borrowed this helmet, and it's like…
• 59:13
  Tad Eggleston: Robin?
• 59:13
  belle price: banks out on? Like, not seeing them do through this montage of, like, we're gonna rescue our daughter.
• 59:21
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 59:22
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and, I mean, you know that it's been years.
• 59:25
  belle price: And I love when they leave things for us to speculate on like that.
• 59:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 59:30
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, essentially, they pass through years in a handful of pages.
• 59:37
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 59:38
  belle price: It's so cool.
• 59:41
  Tad Eggleston: I also love getting Upshur and Doff back.
• 59:45
  belle price: Oh.
• 59:46
  Tad Eggleston: And this is when I started hating the will again.
• 59:48
  belle price: When, when, when, when he…
• 59:51
  Tad Eggleston: When he fucked with Upshur.
• 59:54
  Tad Eggleston: Er, I'm sorry, DOF. He fucked with Dolph.
• 59:59
  Tad Eggleston: Who has the coolest camera, because it has an eye. Though, did you notice that they also have a video camera with an eye?
• 1:00:09
  Tad Eggleston: on the…
• 1:00:11
  Larry Woods: Missed that one.
• 1:00:13
  Tad Eggleston: It's… it's like it… other than the fact that it actually has an eye for the lens, it looks like one of the old, big-ass VHS…
• 1:00:25
  Tad Eggleston: camcorders.
• 1:00:27
  Larry Woods: Hmm.
• 1:00:32
  Larry Woods: Damn.
• 1:00:32
  Tad Eggleston: They, they have on this ship.
• 1:00:35
  Tad Eggleston: Where was it that Alana was… Was messing with it…
• 1:00:42
  Tad Eggleston: And I don't even know why she was messing it, it was just, like, there.
• 1:00:51
  Tad Eggleston: Right before… Here I am flipping through pages… oh, there we go, yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Oh, no, it was they… they were getting ready to… to get him to…
• 1:01:05
  Tad Eggleston: it was when they were talking to Prince Robot about impersonating,
• 1:01:14
  Tad Eggleston: lower…
• 1:01:22
  Tad Eggleston: Count robot, 60.
• 1:01:29
  Tad Eggleston: And him getting all upset that…
• 1:01:32
  Tad Eggleston: Who would think that I was only a count? You think all robots look alike.
• 1:01:38
  belle price: You racist. Well, then he also gets upset when Goose keeps calling him Prince, too. He's like, I'm not Prince anymore. Like, it just… that's how the robot kingdom works, you kind of figure out, is like, it's this hierarchy, like, you know, it's like…
• 1:01:50
  belle price: Almost like a caste system they've got going.
• 1:01:53
  Tad Eggleston: Hmm. Here's… here's the other thing I like. Did you notice that… the… the, the, the, like…
• 1:02:05
  Tad Eggleston: shield person on landfall was sitting at her desk.
• 1:02:11
  Tad Eggleston: Coloring.
• 1:02:12
  Matt: ring.
• 1:02:14
  Larry Woods: No!
• 1:02:18
  Tad Eggleston: Look at that.
• 1:02:19
  Tad Eggleston: It's just got a coloring page.
• 1:02:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 1:02:24
  Matt: I saw that.
• 1:02:27
  Tad Eggleston: You can park anywhere but the red lane, over and out.
• 1:02:31
  Tad Eggleston: Fucking disgraceful.
• 1:02:35
  Larry Woods: Do what you gotta do, man.
• 1:02:40
  Tad Eggleston: She doesn't even look down.
• 1:02:42
  Larry Woods: Nope.
• 1:02:50
  Tad Eggleston: Just coloring away.
• 1:02:53
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, oh, Matt, did you catch… and you have the physical copy, so flip it over.
• 1:03:01
  Tad Eggleston: And look at the poll quotes on the back.
• 1:03:08
  Matt: Which one do you want? Alan Moore's?
• 1:03:10
  Tad Eggleston: Well, just look at… The top two pole coats and who they are.
• 1:03:15
  Tad Eggleston: Alan Moore and Lin-Manuel Miranda as your top two pull quotes.
• 1:03:21
  Tad Eggleston: And then Cosmopolitan, because this is the comic that gets featured in Cosmo.
• 1:03:33
  belle price: Every twi- What?
• 1:03:34
  belle price: Every 12?
• 1:03:35
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 1:03:35
  belle price: Should read it. I agree with this.
• 1:03:37
  Larry Woods: Right, but, but, like.
• 1:03:40
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 1:03:40
  Tad Eggleston: What anything gets a poll quote from Alan Moore, Lin-Manuel Miranda, and Cosmo?
• 1:03:49
  Matt: I'm gonna say Saga.
• 1:03:51
  belle price: Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Tad Eggleston: I think it's a Venn diagram where Saga is the only.
• 1:03:58
  belle price: Well, the answer…
• 1:04:00
  Matt: That's hilarious.
• 1:04:01
  belle price: Oh, that's so good!
• 1:04:04
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I imagine the crossover between Alan Moore and Cosmo is pretty small… You'd think? In and of itself. Probably slightly larger crossovers between Alan Moore and Lin-Manuel Miranda, or Lin-Mano Miranda and Cosmo.
• 1:04:21
  Matt: smell right.
• 1:04:22
  Tad Eggleston: But… but still, like, 3 tiny slivers…
• 1:04:28
  Tad Eggleston: Of things that even… even two of these three people would like. But you gotta believe that, like.
• 1:04:36
  Tad Eggleston: And I guess Cosmo's not even people, it's a whole entity, and I still think that you gotta believe that this is, like, the only thing.
• 1:04:46
  Tad Eggleston: they could get praise in all 3 of those places. Maybe, like… This and mashed potatoes.
• 1:04:56
  Tad Eggleston: I say because I love mashed potatoes. I mean, it's entirely possible that one of the three might not.
• 1:05:03
  Tad Eggleston: You know what's bad?
• 1:05:04
  belle price: one of your podcast… podcast goers right now doesn't like mashed potatoes. I've skipped them at Thanksgiving for the last, like.
• 1:05:09
  Tad Eggleston: Which just makes you terrible. Just makes you terrible.
• 1:05:13
  Tad Eggleston: But what I meant… what I really meant as I used the mashed potatoes example is the only thing that I think it's even remotely possible
• 1:05:23
  Tad Eggleston: That editorial at Cosmo, Lin Manuel Miranda, and Alan Moore might all have in common other than liking this, is liking a particular food, just because there are enough foods that don't…
• 1:05:38
  Tad Eggleston: Fall into a particular… Click.
• 1:05:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you've got, like, the wizard Click, the theater boy clique, and the Mean Girl clique.
• 1:05:52
  Tad Eggleston: represented here.
• 1:05:55
  Tad Eggleston: And not like the Harry Potter Fun Wizard clique.
• 1:06:00
  Larry Woods: No.
• 1:06:02
  belle price: is your click?
• 1:06:03
  Tad Eggleston: This is… this is the Gandalf Kick Your Ass Wizard Click.
• 1:06:07
  belle price: Nope.
• 1:06:09
  belle price: Nope.
• 1:06:14
  belle price: It's such a unique book. I seriously, like, none of my friends have read it yet, and I'm on them to read it all the time. The first one to read it, I'm gonna, like…
• 1:06:22
  Matt: I don't know, Val, it sounds like you gotta get better friends.
• 1:06:26
  Tad Eggleston: I… I mean, I have sold a few hundred copies of Saga Volume 1, but I've also probably given away 20 of them.
• 1:06:36
  Tad Eggleston: And… and actually, this is something that I've been meaning to talk to, Lee, you need to get the…
• 1:06:41
  Tad Eggleston: They… they are reprinting Saga…
• 1:06:44
  Tad Eggleston: in the Digest size editions. We need to get those into the store, because they're 10 bucks a piece, which, admittedly, Volume… Volume 1 is already 10 bucks.
• 1:06:55
  Larry Woods: But…
• 1:06:57
  Tad Eggleston: The digest size…
• 1:07:01
  Tad Eggleston: is easier to sell to the manga crowd, it's a little bit easier to sell to the non-comic crowd, period. You can always get them to go for the… the hardcover once you… once they love it, and you're like, well, you want to see the art big?
• 1:07:13
  Larry Woods: Come look at this.
• 1:07:15
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, yeah, we should carry the digest sizes, and for that matter, I keep meaning to buy it again.
• 1:07:25
  Tad Eggleston: Just to have the pocket-sized editions.
• 1:07:29
  Tad Eggleston: Because I… I haven't given Fiona and Brian enough of my money yet, apparently.
• 1:07:40
  Larry Woods: Sounds good. Yeah, I'll definitely… sorry, looking at… looking it up right now.
• 1:07:44
  Tad Eggleston: Right now!
• 1:07:46
  Larry Woods: Funny, I didn't.
• 1:07:47
  Matt: the same thing.
• 1:07:48
  belle price: I'm laying on the couch.
• 1:07:50
  Tad Eggleston: So, Belle, that's one of the things you can do, is Volume 1 in either digest size or regular size is only 10 bucks a piece. You can just start making it everybody's birthday present until they start reading it.
• 1:08:02
  belle price: Oh, you're so wise for that, actually.
• 1:08:05
  Tad Eggleston: That's part of what I did.
• 1:08:07
  belle price: wisdom. That's straight up wisdom. Tad just laid some serious wisdom on me right there. Give people saga for their birthday. Yum.
• 1:08:13
  Matt: Paperback on Amazon is $7.20.
• 1:08:15
  belle price: That's wisdom.
• 1:08:17
  Tad Eggleston: Right, right. But, but, but yes, even if she's supporting her local comic shop, though…
• 1:08:23
  belle price: I don't have one!
• 1:08:24
  Tad Eggleston: 10 bucks.
• 1:08:24
  belle price: Know this!
• 1:08:25
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, that's right.
• 1:08:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I forgot, I forgot to look… look for you. How… how close is the… The closest comic shop.
• 1:08:35
  belle price: Let's just bump comic shop to bumfuck Nowhere. That's what you're googling right now.
• 1:08:40
  Matt: Kinda.
• 1:08:41
  Tad Eggleston: How do you spell that?
• 1:08:42
  Larry Woods: B-U-M…
• 1:08:45
  belle price: Right?
• 1:08:47
  belle price: Ugh, how do you spell that?
• 1:08:51
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, so… Oh!
• 1:08:54
  belle price: Kimberger, buffalo, or something.
• 1:08:58
  Matt: Of Jamestown.
• 1:08:58
  Tad Eggleston: Do you know… do you know the heart of the game?
• 1:09:01
  belle price: Oh yeah, it's a D&D store in town. They don't sell comic books, though, they just sell, like, D&D stuff, Boy Scout stuff.
• 1:09:06
  Tad Eggleston: So it's… okay.
• 1:09:07
  belle price: consoles.
• 1:09:10
  belle price: I've been there.
• 1:09:13
  Tad Eggleston: How about… Chautauqua Comics?
• 1:09:19
  Tad Eggleston: If it's not… In Jamestown?
• 1:09:20
  belle price: Yeah, I've never been to… no, my friend lives in Jamestown now, though I might go visit soon, so I could take her to a comic shop.
• 1:09:26
  Tad Eggleston: Gutter Pop Comics.
• 1:09:29
  Tad Eggleston: On Hurdle Avenue?
• 1:09:31
  belle price: In what town?
• 1:09:33
  Tad Eggleston: That's what I'm trying to figure out.
• 1:09:35
  Tad Eggleston: Because, Buffalo.
• 1:09:37
  belle price: Yup.
• 1:09:38
  belle price: There you go, we got one in Jamestown, 45 minutes south, one in Buffalo, 50 minutes north. So, those are…
• 1:09:43
  Matt: several in buffaloes.
• 1:09:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, there are a bunch of good ones in Buffalo.
• 1:09:47
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  belle price: difficult.
• 1:09:49
  belle price: for comics.
• 1:09:51
  Tad Eggleston: Depew?
• 1:09:53
  Matt: Lockport to Peel, yep.
• 1:09:57
  belle price: Yeah, it's just sad. Fredonia lost, like, GameStop was the closest we had to a comic book stop.
• 1:10:02
  Tad Eggleston: Niagara Falls.
• 1:10:02
  Matt: It was a comic shop.
• 1:10:04
  belle price: Huh?
• 1:10:05
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait a minute, I didn't realize… oh, oh, see, see.
• 1:10:08
  Tad Eggleston: now I'm gonna… I'm gonna… see, I hadn't bothered to map Fredonia yet, and now… now that I'm… I'm kind of figuring out where it is.
• 1:10:18
  Tad Eggleston: They're… I mean, first of all, do you have a passport?
• 1:10:21
  belle price: You want me to go to Canada? I got a signed Jeff Lemire book from Canada when I went to school.
• 1:10:26
  Tad Eggleston: That's my point.
• 1:10:27
  belle price: I literally pulled it off the shelf, and it was autographed, and I was like, it was like $13.
• 1:10:33
  Tad Eggleston: This is my point, there are a lot of good comic shops in Toronto.
• 1:10:38
  belle price: Yeah, I've been. That was one of my only things I wanted to do when I saw System of a Down there, dude. I was like, Mia, we're going to a comic shop. And she's like, cool, I want to try on vintage clothes. So, like, she went and let me pick out a book, and I let her try on skirts.
• 1:10:51
  belle price: It was cute.
• 1:10:56
  Tad Eggleston: But I gotta find out how far you are from the kazoo Factory.
• 1:11:03
  belle price: This is the first I'm hearing of a kazoo factory.
• 1:11:06
  Matt: Yeah, where's the kazoo Factory?
• 1:11:07
  Tad Eggleston: Eden.
• 1:11:09
  belle price: Eden Angola?
• 1:11:11
  Tad Eggleston: You eat in New York, so you're 33 minutes away from the Kazoo Factory.
• 1:11:15
  belle price: I got kazoos for days, but no local comic shop.
• 1:11:19
  belle price: What's up in sight.
• 1:11:20
  Matt: I mean, there's a whole factory producing kazoos.
• 1:11:23
  belle price: But nobody will sell me Saga within 20 minutes of my own home!
• 1:11:27
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, it's 30 minutes to get to the…
• 1:11:32
  Tad Eggleston: Well, actually, there is a store… oh, no, that's an antique store. So if they have comics, it's…
• 1:11:40
  Larry Woods: Actually, there might be some comics there. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:11:42
  belle price: Yeah, there's lots of old stuff out here, and honestly, enough garage sales with people selling comic books or comic-adjacent things that it, like… I can get behind it a little, but there's no one that sells me Saga, so it's like…
• 1:11:55
  Tad Eggleston: Ba-buh-buh…
• 1:11:58
  belle price: It's just… it's tough, it's tough out here. Hopefully Chicago will have more comic book stores! Oh, definitely, definitely.
• 1:12:03
  Tad Eggleston: So, is UC looking even more likely at this point?
• 1:12:08
  belle price: Listen, I'm not gonna say anything in either direction or the other. I had a good interaction with the professor I want to be with when I was seeing him in GSA, and, like, he gave my poster, and I had a good interaction with his student when I saw her on the phone, and…
• 1:12:22
  belle price: I think I have a good shot, but I also think there's probably other students that are like me that also have a good shot, so I think it's 50-50. Like, I could or I couldn't. I can't be upset either way. It is my top school, and it is something I worked really hard to get, like, my application in for, but at the end of the day.
• 1:12:39
  belle price: You know, life's gonna be what life is.
• 1:12:41
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  belle price: Grad school's like that, man. It's like, it's gonna make or break wherever I go for my future, and it's like, I can't actually put that much weight on it, or it'll make me go insane.
• 1:12:53
  Tad Eggleston: Fair.
• 1:12:54
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, closing thoughts, cause… cause we should wrap.
• 1:12:59
  Larry Woods: Let's get on those letters. 22 letters. I think that's great.
• 1:13:03
  Tad Eggleston: Anybody, anybody who sends a letter requesting Brian and Fiona to come on 22 Panels, actually.
• 1:13:12
  Tad Eggleston: Let's, let's go, let's go all in here.
• 1:13:17
  Larry Woods: I know, I… cause…
• 1:13:20
  Tad Eggleston: I buy Saga every way, so I can, I can quickly…
• 1:13:24
  Tad Eggleston: quickly, pull up a digital single issue, too, so that I can, I can put out the address here.
• 1:13:34
  Tad Eggleston: For our letter-writing campaign. Hi, Mom, hi Adam, hi Britt.
• 1:13:40
  Tad Eggleston: If, hi, John.
• 1:13:44
  Tad Eggleston: Is there anybody else who's likely listening?
• 1:13:47
  Tad Eggleston: I can't think of anybody else at the moment. There are a handful of people, I'm certain. Probably Marisol, when she remembers that she didn't show up.
• 1:13:56
  Tad Eggleston: But, so… let's see… Saga…
• 1:14:06
  Tad Eggleston: And I… again, like, I decided a long time ago that when I wrote my saga letter, I had to…
• 1:14:17
  Tad Eggleston: I had to pull out my typewriter and use the typewriter.
• 1:14:20
  Tad Eggleston: And that's slowed me down, but it'll still also mean a cooler letter when I send it, so…
• 1:14:28
  Tad Eggleston: I need to make a point of that, particularly because here I am promising on there. You're my accountability partners. In 4 weeks, you have to ask if the letter's written.
• 1:14:37
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:14:38
  belle price: I like this, yes, accountability partners, yes.
• 1:14:41
  Larry Woods: If only we had a written record of… this conversation.
• 1:14:45
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, so, letter, letters are to be sent to, to be continued, 4335 Van Nuys Boulevard, Suite 332, Sherman Oaks, California, 91403. They can be
• 1:15:02
  Tad Eggleston: addressed to Brian, or Fiona, or Milkshake.
• 1:15:08
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 1:15:09
  Larry Woods: One, one free.
• 1:15:10
  Tad Eggleston: bet.
• 1:15:11
  Tad Eggleston: There we go.
• 1:15:14
  Matt: I'm setting mine to Tootsie.
• 1:15:16
  belle price: I'm sending mine to, LionCat. I'm gonna ask her how many lies she's heard.
• 1:15:23
  belle price: Allie?
• 1:15:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah. That's the only word you can say, I mean… You get, you guys are my accountability partners.
• 1:15:35
  Tad Eggleston: And, I have to finally actually… Actually write the letter.
• 1:15:43
  Tad Eggleston: To… to… To say, we, we love, love your work.
• 1:15:51
  Tad Eggleston: And, we'd very much like to talk to you.
• 1:15:54
  Tad Eggleston: I know you don't do a lot of podcasts, but please, please come join us sometime.
• 1:15:58
  Tad Eggleston: Cuz… Would be nice.
• 1:16:01
  Tad Eggleston: We won't get too angry at you about the massively bad actions of the will.
• 1:16:07
  Matt: Well, yeah.
• 1:16:09
  Tad Eggleston: And… and Fiona, just for the record, we blame Brian exclusively for that.
• 1:16:20
  Tad Eggleston: We know you would have saved him if you could.
• 1:16:23
  belle price: All the bad eras, man. Listen, I… it's good to watch his downfall.
• 1:16:30
  belle price: Honestly, kind of cathartic.
• 1:16:32
  Tad Eggleston: So, alright. For the Saga Book Club on 22 Panels, Matt, take us out.
• 1:16:44
  Matt: We'll continue after the next page.