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#239 - For Azeroth!: “Launch Interview Round Up” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Tehran for the Kirin Tor and REO for calendar, organists our
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  cars, not die for the sin Dora for the alliance for Azeroth.
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  Greetings and welcome to another episode of for Azeroth.
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  I am one of your host, Olivia Spell.
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  Slinger sling spells and joining me, as always is the villain of
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  the hour Manny Manny. How's the world of work have
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  been treating you this week. Uh, yeah, I finally got to like,
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  dig in and play the second phase.
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  I have been a while, you know previously.
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  I said I was channeling my inner EJ.
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  My aunt, my inner Girls Gone. Wild this time.
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  I decided to take a page out of your book and I have created a
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  cult Army. So, at this point, I have every
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  class At least one of every class up to level 60, excluding
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  Palin's, Rogues Palin, Rogue Mage and Hunter.
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  I have a Mage and I have a well, sorry, I apologize DK as well.
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  I have a major, I have a rogue but they're not at cap.
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  They're in their 20s right now. I believe once 25 once 26, the
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  death knight. Is at 59, and like a half bar,
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  because there is currently a bug going around rather in the game
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  that you cannot turn off experience gains.
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  So, I have no wish to have that character.
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  Suddenly trip to level 60, and Fallout of cromie time, that
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  character is around specifically to hunt down rares that I want
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  to. That I want to get.
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  So yeah, that's about that's about mounting as for the
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  invoker, the invoker. I actually have four separate of
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  ochres all at level 60 because once they get out of the
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  starting point that level 60, yeah, three of them are horde.
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  One is Alliance to them are the preservation to them our
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  destruction, they I have all joined because I'm going to be
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  doing professions. I'm going to be doing Mount
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  hunting because our dear friend, of me shoe boots, has decided to
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  throw down the gauntlet and say, oh okay, I'm going to actually
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  compete in this Mount hunt. So as of this recording, I am
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  merely one mount in the lead. Oh wow, he caught up fast.
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  He was in the lead for a little bit.
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  He was oh he had a one Mount lead for a little while and then
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  I made up the difference and then suddenly he jumped ahead
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  and then I've made up the difference and now taking the
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  lead. So the race is on and there
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  could be a BlizzCon called at any moment and that is the
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  official end of this competition that has been going on for
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  years. And I have not driven strived
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  this hard for boots to win this thing.
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  So, no, no. It's, it's time that I pull out
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  all the stops time that I don't mess around anymore time to
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  throw down and gotten rid of your own.
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  Yeah and I don't want to go too much into it just in case our
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  friend boots decides to listen to this episode but I have
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  Energy's, strategies. I have suffered your strategy
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  secrets are safe with me. Manny, no man.
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  You worked with Foods. You might be a double agent.
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  I trust no one now. So that is the the start of it.
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  But going through and leveling all of these various characters
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  has given me a lot of time with the new Talent system leveling
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  it through. To actually learn all these
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  poor, these talents, and how they interact with each other.
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  Giving me a much better understanding of class or other
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  some specs that I had no understanding about before.
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  And also just really developed an appreciation for some of
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  these specs in classes, like I love Affliction, I've been
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  saying that for a while but I really love Affliction.
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  My Unholy DK is a Lee fun rotation with its little
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  minigame pop up those festering wounds.
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  Love it. Just simple perspective.
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  Oh yeah, it's just fun. It's just generally fun and the
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  I'm struggling with the fire Mage, I may switch over to a
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  different spec I or it might be that.
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  I just need to get a little bit higher in level to truly enjoy
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  that one. Yeah, fire Mage, fire Mages when
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  there's very Crittenden. So if your gear isn't yielding
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  that crit that you that you want to dominate the Senate create
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  like, I was looking at it, yeah, years do.
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  It was like there was, there was like, the I hit the crit and
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  then I, I would then, Do the force crit move which I can't
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  even remember any combustion name of combustion?
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  Yeah, I would do the combustion to get my, get my hot streak,
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  but then I would get annoyed if I'd get a crit right after.
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  And like, I think they call it like Creek munching or something
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  like that. I was like, there was a couple
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  of things where I just, I feel like I need to have like a
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  little bit more reliability in there.
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  So I I think it'll be great when I can like get streaks.
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  Of creates and be like, ha ha. Look at me go nuts.
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  Yeah, no. Yeah, when Fair image comes
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  online, it comes online, super hard.
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  But yeah. Until you get until you get to
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  that crit threshold. You might, as you might, you may
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  as well just like switch to either Frost where I can't,
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  which both of those specs play fantastically because Mage, as
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  we all know is one of my, one of my many pet classes, not only
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  not by not I don't mean pet as in, like actual pet class, but
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  like peppers in. It is, it is one of my babies.
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  Oh yeah, it is, it is one of the classes that I definitely look
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  forward to. I will never force you to choose
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  between your 13, babies. Yes, is 14.
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  Now, all 13 is 13. No, it's 1312.
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  Now, it's 30 degrees. Okay, you're 13 babies.
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  Yeah, poker, I'm enjoying obviously to traveling through
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  four times. I can I have like it's not four
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  times, it is four times on live. I've done that starting zone so
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  I have it down. RIT it's that's the only reason
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  that there isn't like more is because of the restriction and I
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  stupidly did it, make my first of ochre on a realm that I
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  didn't have a characters on that were at the correct level.
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  So that's just the way the cookie crumbles right now,
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  unless I want to like dust off my original Shaman, I still Have
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  my vanilla Shaman that I never leveled past vanilla.
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  Mmm. Sitting on it server, just log
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  into it. Every so often to be like, oh
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  yeah, that's the way I was and vanilla.
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  And it's like, clown gear and everything and just like a few
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  pieces of rain gear that I worked so hard for.
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  And every so often, they like squish the level and or like
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  squished together and I'll look at it and be like, Oh, used to
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  be little 60 now your level like 25.
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  Hmm. And yeah.
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  So I know it's something. That I will consider.
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  But my game time is going to be cut short this week because it
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  is Thanksgiving weekend. And after I finish recording
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  this show, I'm going to do a mad scramble to get that all
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  produced and get that out to you fine, folks.
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  Because the rest of the week I'm gone, I'll be back Monday in
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  time for the launch as well. I be gone the entire rest of the
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  week but I'll like luckily I don't have to Apple too far for
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  for Thanksgiving this year. So I will have lots of lots of
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  game time. Lots of time to do the last
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  couple of things that I want to do before launch week, which
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  included in that is my quest to get the rest of my classes up to
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  level 60 before the before the actual expansion starts but I
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  don't think I'm going to make it.
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  Don't think I'm going to make it.
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  Because I do have like three of the classes that I that I need
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  to level to get all 13 at max level are Hunter Druid and Monk
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  and all three of those classes. I am just I'm struggling to find
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  the joy in playing them. So it feels very true or like
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  and I don't like doing chores in my video games.
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  If I wanted to do chores, I would go do the dishes.
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  I mean, I quite Enjoy the monk. I think of the classes that I
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  that I love old. But yeah, the the hunter I
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  didn't even try it just the matically.
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  I just I don't like pet classes and Hunters are so much about
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  pets. Like yeah unless unless you go
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  Lone Wolf Marksman you have to have a pet out in that kind of
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  bugs me. Yeah, don't mind the Warlock
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  pets. I literally just have the
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  impact. I just considered a DOT or a
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  little turret. That sits beside me and doesn't
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  do anything and I will not have any interaction with it.
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  I don't I don't feel the need to go Grim or sacrifice.
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  I don't think that it has fallen off or got in like, destroyed so
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  badly that I, that I feel like Hamstrung by it because they're
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  re-summon your pets, it hurts it hurts.
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  You get like one cool down to be like, do it quickly and then
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  long cast. I'm so not a fan but I am liking
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  the world walk so much that it is currently a contender.
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  For what I am going to Maine in dragonflight it is down to the
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  wire. I'm going to be making this.
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  Decision as we head into raid it because I'm going to Des level
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  up the shaman. Get that all set up with
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  elemental and I'm going to level up the Warlock.
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  The reason being that yeah a lot of a volkers out there folks
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  including on my great team, people want to play of ochre,
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  making a lot of people trying to fight over both mail drops, and
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  we want to diversify the drops that are out there.
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  Hmm. What about you have?
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  You found a red team. Yet kind of kind of, I haven't,
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  I haven't decided exactly what I'm going to be doing because
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  raid schedules between multiple games.
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  And this is something that I've talked about Ad nauseam before,
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  but playing multiple multiple games, at the same time that you
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  have rating like this, where you have like 20 plus people that
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  are depending on you. To show up week after week.
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  Like you have to make sure that schedules line up properly and
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  there is there's Tuesday's a popular day for rating is is
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  what I'll say. So deciding deciding whether I'm
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  going to main track classic rating or if I'm going to main
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  track dragonflight rating is or modern.
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  Wow rating. I should say is Vision that I
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  have yet to make yet but I do intend on rating in both
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  environments. It's just going to be deciding
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  deciding which one I defer to like a casual weekend kind of
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  raid situation which I think It could go, it could go either
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  way. At this point.
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  Still honestly I'm not going to commit to anything live on air
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  where it can be held beholding to the words that I say.
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  So instead I will say I'm torn. I'm torn between, which version
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  of this game that I want to be want to be like, which version,
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  which version of the game. I went to Maine.
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  Like, let alone, which class I went to Maine in decide in
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  decided are undecided about which version of the game.
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  I went to Maine still, like I will, I will be spending
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  entirely much more. Time in dragonflight whenever
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  the expansion launches, most of my attention is going to be
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  diverted to that, because, of course, we'll get.
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  We'll get new shiny things and there's not a whole lot new
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  happening for a while in Wrath classic.
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  So, obviously, I'm going to be spending a lot of time there in
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  dragon flame. It is But I do have I do have
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  like projects that I want to work on in both in both versions
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  of the game. So it's going to be a very
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  careful Balancing Act of making sure that I have enough time to
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  do the things that I want to do in both versions of the game.
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  So we'll see. We'll see.
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  Okay, so today we're going to catch you up on all of the
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  interviews that have been happening all over the wow
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  community in terms of dragon flight, the first interview is
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  going to be the one that Soul. So Breezy had with Eric Holmberg
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  wielder and this was an interview specifically about the
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  profession system as it's coming in Dragon flight.
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  So he started off by By speaking about things that weren't
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  currently in the game and seeing, if you could get any
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  kind of idea on, if they would be coming in and what form?
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  First thing was looking at something cool for archaeology's
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  future and why it wasn't there. So the main reason that
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  archeology wasn't there on launch, was honestly, they
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  wanted to focus on the primary professions to make sure that
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  those were solid and give those the refresh.
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  And so the secondary profession Is archaeology fishing that
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  those fell by the wayside unfortunately, but he did point
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  to some world events that are there for cooking for fishing
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  that are this little awesome things.
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  One of the things that we've seen on beta is this group
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  cooking where you bring in a bunch of ingredients, throw it
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  into a big pot, defend the pot against Raiders.
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  It's just a fun. Cool event that happens and you
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  can get points towards your cooking.
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  Specialization, the team has yet to make any specific plans for
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  glyphs you know on this show or consulate talking about oh I'd
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  love to have a glyph. That makes this look like that
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  or or changes this in our conversation that we had with,
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  in Berserker even mentioned that he'd love to have a Pummel
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  glyph. Where instead of doing the
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  normal Pummel animation, your Warrior literally headbutts the
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  enemy to do the interrupt fun things like that are amazing.
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  They do understand that the goal is to make spell animations.
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  Well, recognized especially in PvP when you see a, a Demon
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  Hunter and he turns into to Demon.
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  You can tell if he's Havoc or if he's Vengeance based on the type
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  of demon that they turn into. If there is a bunch of different
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  glyphs that confuse that it becomes much harder to read that
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  sort of thing. And they're being careful about
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  that which is understandable but I think that they it in some
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  ways it is under estimating the player base a bit especially in
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  things where what you're reading doesn't matter that much.
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  We have how many different totems based on on different
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  races, they can change that a Elemental whether it's Pandaren
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  style. These new ones in dragonflight
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  stuff from drone or a fire Elemental is as fire Elemental
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  as a fire Elemental and You don't really have an issue
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  reading that as well. So I think there is room there,
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  but I understand the PVP confusion in some areas and so,
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  yeah, they definitely say that they want to have more rare
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  cosmetic crafting recipes in the future things that I think,
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  would last past the tier where the item level is good people
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  still do Island Expedition Ins and sell those on the auction
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  house for great money. This is pretty much the same
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  thing where it's like, oh, that's a rare unique.
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  Look, that comes from crafting and people would want that
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  people would go back to that expansion after the expansion to
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  learn that recipe to make gold off of that.
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  I think the, those would be cool.
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  They then went to speak about the idea that with dragonflight,
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  but it is to have professions be major sources of gear without
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  forcing players to pick us specific, profession, crafting
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  orders. And the fact that you can Use
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  your own be OES and the crafter can make it with the bo.
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  He's from the person, doing the order is specifically for that
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  reason and there's been discussion in our Discord that
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  is restrictive that it doesn't allow people.
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  If you don't do that content to get that sort of gear and yes
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  and no I think that. Yes when its current it's it is
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  restrictive because the item level is still there.
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  It's still valuable But there are different ways of getting
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  these things at the end of renown, you can get stuff that
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  is equivalent to heroic level gear.
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  At the end of various quests, there are ways to get some stuff
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  that will get you similar to normal level gear.
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  And when we move into the next season, it becomes that much
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  easier to go back and do that sort of stuff.
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  But on top of that, this isn't a new restriction.
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  They haven't added add restrictions to this.
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  That you didn't have before in order for me to get Mythic
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  quality raid gear out of SFO, even with season for making it
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  easier. It still requires a raid team
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  and effort, it isn't until many expansions later that I can solo
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  this sort of stuff, I can run through Legion, rage, and
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  demolish, the most of the boss. Bosses without a without a team
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  and the same would be true for this.
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  I don't think that there is going to be an answer that suits
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  everybody, because the restrictions are really
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  balancing against players that are after different things.
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  What do you think? Yeah.
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  The. the argument seems to be centered around the idea that
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  that everyone be able to get the highest item level gear
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  available or at least that's the way that I'm perceiving it and I
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  may be completely wrong than that, but the the idea is just
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  that you you get the or you have access to the most powerful gear
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  available Able to the content that you're doing.
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  And I think that they're they've done a good job over the years
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  kind of fine-tuning, the difficulty of the world content,
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  like the open-world, content, scaling with the gear that
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  you're able to get out of it to a point where once you, once you
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  get to that, that item level, that that is like, kind of like,
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  capped out like in xerath. Mortise, for example, I think
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  the the Level cap. There was, like, 233 if I'm
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  remembering correctly from what you could get from, like,
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  traveling up to 250 to was it. No, like actually upgraded.
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  Once you got everything unlocked in the in the creation.
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  But either way, once you've got once you've got the gear kind of
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  going in that it made the Zone, much easier to kind of go
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  through and and make farming out all the materials and everything
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  that you wanted to form out of that zone much easier.
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  And of Of course that that got easier and easier if you were
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  also doing rating and Mythic plus and even PDP to some
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  extent. So but for for me the the
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  open-world content in the ease of completing that content of
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  participating in rare bosses and the world boss and everything
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  that's available with each new punt content cycle. and I feel
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  like the The difficulty of that is, is very quickly met by the
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  gear. That's a, it's available from
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  that open-world content. So, if you're not, if you're not
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  needing the gear to go into the, The Raid situation and into the
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  raid setting into the Mythic, plus, if that's not content that
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  you're looking looking at pursuing yourself, then the gear
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  that is available through the The open-world content is in my
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  opinion enough to be able to be efficient at doing that content,
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  but that's just my opinion. And I know that there are many
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  people that don't feel that that is the case.
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  So there there's always going to be more work to be done on that
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  front. I feel like Yeah.
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  And and to confirm it is 252 once you have completely gone
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  through it all through it, all it'll drop 252 gear.
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  There was a need to go into at least LFR to make those Quest.
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  Suddenly start dropping weapons so that you get to 52 weapons
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  out of their butt. I think that is a very good item
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  level that you can get out of out of just World content will
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  and if you do the world boss, which doesn't require a lot of
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  coordination. If much at all, doesn't require
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  you to really dive into that social pressure like a raid.
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  Or a dungeon would do you can get even higher gear from that
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  as well, especially Ali with season for going and allowing
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  that. But in terms of the other part
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  of this, where it is talking about how Crafting isn't
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  supposed to force you to be a specific spec or not spec rather
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  specific profession. That's where because they're Boe
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  components and work orders. You can be a Alchemist and not
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  miss out on gear, that's particular for your armor type.
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  That's why you can be an engineer and make those toys and
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  not feel that you like leaving player power on the on the
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  table. And yeah there are some
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  profession bonuses that are Are in there like Skinner's can do
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  some more damage to dragons then characters who aren't scanners
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  but I suspect that's going to be so nominal as to not
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  particularly matter especially since we're trying to help the
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  dragons and not not kill the massacres like evil dragons all
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  over his place so that's correct.
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  There are, you know we're helping one.
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  Type of dragon, we're putting other types of dragons in the
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  dirt and you know if you know your way around a knife you're
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  just a little bit better at that.
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  Yeah moving on the engine of innovation was another part,
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  they said that the engine of innovation could be used to
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  create Sparks of Ingenuity, which were used for crafting
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  gear, you get more quests that you unlock these.
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  He's Sparks as you get further along in the season.
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  I did not see any conversation about catch up.
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  So if you show up late to to this, And I do not know if the
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  Sparks are something that. Yeah, if you're, if you're not
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  there right away, you're going to fall behind or lose out on
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  opportunity that other Crafters will do.
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  So, it might be a race to that acquiring items can fuel the
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  engine to feel. The engine will function in a
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  similar way. Way to obtaining Legion
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  legendaries. So remember you would do these
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  sort of things. A you would kill a dungeon boss.
• 28:20
  You kill a raid boss or you would get an emissary chest and
• 28:25
  there was a chance that one you did that legendary which was
• 28:29
  this this cool sort of way of making you do extra things but
• 28:33
  they've avoided the Trap that you know shark.
• 28:37
  Ooh, wherever he is rest rest his soul but I'm sure he's very
• 28:41
  much alive. Very much with us.
• 28:44
  Yeah, you know, he's alive, he's very social, but this won't give
• 28:49
  shark. You were an aneurysm because you
• 28:51
  can't get the wrong thing. It is only this kind of currency
• 28:57
  that you used to feel the engine.
• 29:00
  And so getting getting, it will be great.
• 29:04
  I suspect, I highly suspect that there is a kind of Amortization.
• 29:14
  Like they they said that there is going to be bad luck
• 29:18
  protection. So you can't go on a drought of
• 29:23
  gone all week and I've done everything, I didn't get one
• 29:26
  well no the more stuff you do eventually just like with these
• 29:30
  legendaries it'll be like hey you've reached the has the bad
• 29:35
  luck protection thing. Here you go but in the same way
• 29:39
  I'm wondering if there is something that says hey Hey,
• 29:43
  you've gotten five this week, you're not gonna get any more.
• 29:49
  That's something that they could program in without saying they
• 29:53
  could do that. And I would hope, I would hope
• 29:57
  that they do something like once you get once you get, like, two
• 30:02
  or three or like, whatever, whatever, like, a reasonable
• 30:05
  amount would be given the content.
• 30:07
  Like, like, if you if this thing is like defeat, I've raid bosses
• 30:13
  and you get one as like an equivalent like expected rate
• 30:20
  and you like, do all the like, do all the raid bosses and you
• 30:24
  go and do some Mythic plus, then you can, you can expect that
• 30:28
  you're going to get two or three or four and not get much out of
• 30:33
  that because like, one thing that, that I kind of fear with
• 30:37
  this. And I think the the ire that the
• 30:42
  The legendary system of Legion brought on is because it kind of
• 30:49
  over incentivized maximizing and doing everything you possibly
• 30:54
  can. So if there is something to be
• 30:57
  gained in player, power having having a kind of soft cap on the
• 31:03
  thing that you're supposed to be chasing after in the content
• 31:06
  that you're doing. I think is a good thing.
• 31:10
  If not altogether, a hard cap, To say, okay, you can only get a
• 31:15
  maximum of three of these things because no matter what, if they
• 31:19
  do set a hard cap that like it's kind of a catch-22 because they
• 31:22
  set the hard cap, then, that is an indicator.
• 31:25
  Okay, everyone your intended to get three every week and if you
• 31:29
  don't get your three that week then you feel like you falling
• 31:32
  behind. So I feel like I feel like
• 31:34
  there's, there's a lot of like, Careful stepping that needs to
• 31:39
  be done in this in the system and how it actually rolls out
• 31:42
  because it can lead to situations, where people feel
• 31:46
  pressured to do things above and beyond what they normally would
• 31:50
  in order to quote, unquote maximize the their time in the
• 31:54
  game, which, well, it is enjoy that.
• 31:57
  But a lot of people don't. Yeah, it is in a subset of the
• 32:02
  game of crafting. So some people just will ignore
• 32:05
  crafting in general. It is Also fuel for the engine
• 32:11
  of innovation. And we know that a lot of the
• 32:14
  best recipes have particular, reagents that can't be farmed in
• 32:23
  real excess. Like you can do only so many
• 32:26
  raid bosses women within a given lockout, right?
• 32:30
  And in that way. My thought is that even if this
• 32:35
  one is something that, yeah, you can get a ton of you're still
• 32:38
  limited by other things, which would mean that like okay, you
• 32:41
  have 20 of these but you only have three of the other things
• 32:44
  and that means that you can only make three no matter if you had
• 32:47
  20 of them or six of them. So yeah.
• 32:49
  So you can you can effectively like over Farm out like over
• 32:54
  like three weeks to stockpile so that you can have that ready for
• 33:01
  when you do, get the Other materials, the more rare
• 33:04
  materials. So yeah I I feel like that's a
• 33:07
  good way to balance it out. Actually.
• 33:09
  Hmm. You are guaranteed.
• 33:14
  A crafting reagent from a raid or Mythic plus run.
• 33:19
  I'm not sure like obviously at the end of a Mythic plus,
• 33:23
  there's that one chest and great, you'll get that.
• 33:25
  I'm not sure how they do it with the raid boss other than like
• 33:28
  hey you first boss, you killed congratulations.
• 33:34
  They also said that to be able to craft a piece of higher item
• 33:39
  level gear. You need drops from the content
• 33:42
  that is equivalent again. This is reinforcing that in
• 33:47
  order to get something that is equivalent to To a Mythic raid,
• 33:50
  you have to go run a Mythic raid or a Mythic plus dungeon of
• 33:56
  commiserate level, or do PVP and get rating of a commiserate
• 34:00
  level. That's that's what they're
• 34:04
  talking about. There is again at the end of
• 34:07
  renowned tracks A item that you get that will get you something
• 34:12
  as high as heroic. So there is a little bit of give
• 34:15
  for people who are just doing pure solo.
• 34:17
  It's like hey you went through the entirety of this, renowned
• 34:20
  track here, that is a lofty amount of work here, something
• 34:27
  for that work. They then go on to say that
• 34:34
  crafted gear is not eligible for the Catalyst of inspiration.
• 34:38
  We talked about this last week, there they are putting that
• 34:42
  forward again. Players get one Primal infusion,
• 34:47
  crafting reagent for hitting Max renowned, that's what I was
• 34:52
  speaking about both their you get another one for killing
• 34:56
  razza gas for the first time. Again, that is agnostic of
• 35:02
  difficulty. So if you are somebody running
• 35:04
  through LFR or normal, hey, here's an extra high higher
• 35:10
  level piece, right? And through all of this, if you
• 35:16
  do all of these things. So like LFR to kill as a gift.
• 35:20
  The first time doing doing those renounce, all four of them that
• 35:27
  allows you to have fun. Five pieces of heroic item level
• 35:31
  gear. For relatively casual content
• 35:36
  over the course of season one, which I think is a phenomenal
• 35:40
  place to be. If you never really stepped into
• 35:43
  instant content except for one LFR, weighing when it became
• 35:50
  available. Yeah.
• 35:53
  And they say that the general idea is to keep upgrading
• 35:56
  profession gear into a new season, but they also will
• 36:01
  introduce new recipes as well. That keeps the older recipes
• 36:05
  relevant. The team is trying to figure out
• 36:08
  if they should add new Gathering reagents every season.
• 36:11
  That's not determined yet you will find That you can fill
• 36:18
  public crafting orders without digging into your daily limit.
• 36:22
  If the crafting order is within a certain time limit of expiring
• 36:28
  and to explain that when you are crafting, these orders, you have
• 36:33
  a limit of Right now, I believe the limit is 10.
• 36:40
  Or 20, I'm not sure. However, that limit is not hard
• 36:44
  because people on certain servers or saying it's to
• 36:46
  Littles people. On other servers are saying,
• 36:49
  it's too much. It allow people to dominate my
• 36:51
  small population server and I won't get a get a piece but
• 36:56
  they're able to put it down low and then people can go beyond
• 37:01
  that limit by sniping these near expiring auctions and then
• 37:07
  getting the crafting point for filling out the This work order
• 37:12
  without going beyond their cap. And that means that if you want
• 37:20
  to take advantage of this, you could put up a work order with a
• 37:24
  very short duration, offer a nominal incentive not, not as
• 37:32
  much as what people would be fighting over for that
• 37:34
  commission, but people might pick it up anyways because their
• 37:38
  reward is getting the skills. Philip from doing doing your
• 37:42
  work order. It'll be much more lucrative in
• 37:45
  the early phases than it will be in the later phases when people
• 37:48
  have perhaps gotten much closer to Kapoor are capping, but I
• 37:54
  think because professions, take a long time to get to cap.
• 37:58
  This will actually be a economic trend for a long time into
• 38:05
  season one and probably again in season 2 and 3 as we We reset
• 38:10
  and new recipes and new. Ways of crafting come out?
• 38:18
  Yeah. Then and and if new materials
• 38:21
  get introduced as well, that also Yeah.
• 38:25
  The fact I think it'll become less less of a push if it is
• 38:32
  only a matter of maxing out that particular recipe because the
• 38:38
  general specialization points will eventually run out, you're
• 38:43
  supposed to get to the point where you have all the
• 38:45
  specializations but the first little bit where people are
• 38:50
  trying to build out their first specialization or, and they're
• 38:53
  second in. Then finally round out stuff.
• 38:55
  People are going to just jump on these expiring work orders and
• 39:00
  then public orders are not region-wide.
• 39:04
  This again, goes back to that conversation.
• 39:05
  We just said we're on some servers.
• 39:08
  It's going to be a different ball game than on other servers
• 39:11
  because of population and because public orders are not
• 39:14
  region-wide. They say that they want to see
• 39:19
  how they'd work out on life, the servers, and that they can
• 39:24
  broadcast. Things later, but they can't
• 39:25
  really you can't really put the genie back in the bottle once
• 39:28
  you've done that. So there are once again being
• 39:31
  conservative and that was the sole Breezy interview that took
• 39:36
  us 40 minutes. Let's move on to the Wowhead
• 39:40
  interview. Go ahead.
• 39:41
  Hopefully, hopefully this will be a little bit quicker to get
• 39:43
  through, but Wowhead did an interview with Morgan day.
• 39:48
  This one talking about some nuts and bolts aspects to the
• 39:52
  development of of dragonflies. Right?
• 39:56
  They talked a little bit about talent trees and a about how
• 40:01
  talent trees are always kind of a work in progress, but they
• 40:04
  felt that the major adjustments to talent trees would be best
• 40:08
  saved for for new season. So, whenever whenever a new
• 40:12
  season is coming out, they're going to be taking a look at
• 40:15
  talent trees and see if there are any major adjustments that
• 40:19
  they would like to make. Or if there are any adjustments
• 40:21
  that need to be made but that's talking About like the structure
• 40:25
  of the trees and the abilities that are on offer in the talent
• 40:28
  trees themselves. Not talking about balance, which
• 40:32
  I think are two, two completely separate overlapping and in some
• 40:37
  places but separate conversations that are, that are
• 40:40
  to be had. As we have had, we have had
• 40:43
  multiple interviews now about about the new talent trees and
• 40:48
  everything, where they have discussed that they're going to
• 40:50
  be they're going to be You know, looking at balance and aren't
• 40:58
  going to be holding off for major content patches to do
• 41:02
  balancing passes. But that doesn't that doesn't
• 41:05
  equate to the talent trees themselves being changed.
• 41:09
  So that's that's a good thing. And I Definitely am happy that
• 41:14
  they're that they're looking at adjusting talent trees from
• 41:18
  season to season. But but yeah then the next
• 41:24
  question was talking or was asking about the the 40% health
• 41:30
  and creature damage. Increase that happened a couple
• 41:32
  of weeks back in the beta which caused quite the stir in the
• 41:37
  Healer Community whenever it initially happened but Morgan
• 41:43
  day. You did go on to further explain
• 41:45
  which this has already been explained before, but but Morgan
• 41:49
  day wanted to wanted to, you know, Continue to get out ahead
• 41:55
  of everything and assure everyone in what they were doing
• 42:00
  which it's it Sound Logic. What they did which I think
• 42:05
  we've talked about on the show before but didn't know basically
• 42:09
  what they did. What they noticed is that health
• 42:12
  bars are very rare Bandy. They were going all over the
• 42:15
  place like basically from 102 to like 10% with with certain
• 42:21
  mechanics that were That were being thrown out in like up or
• 42:25
  difficulty content. And they with with the with the
• 42:34
  way that Healers Were and are going to be.
• 42:41
  They were noticing that they were able to get everyone capped
• 42:46
  off from very low Health in like one or two castes basically.
• 42:53
  And so the effect was that the health bars everywhere were just
• 42:59
  yo-yoing all the time and they didn't really didn't really
• 43:05
  have. Like they basically had two
• 43:08
  options of either Nerf healers, or do the changes that they did,
• 43:14
  which was to increase the health poll by 40% of everyone, and
• 43:17
  then increase the creature damage to compensate for that
• 43:21
  Health increase. So the the relative damage is
• 43:26
  still there. You're just not going to see
• 43:29
  healers be able to bring everyone up from Near Death to
• 43:34
  100% as as easily. Oh, and also Mana conservation
• 43:41
  is now back on the table because we're not going to be the
• 43:47
  healers are going to be have to be a little bit more mindful
• 43:49
  about when they're using their heels.
• 43:51
  And when the effectiveness of their heels are going to be
• 43:55
  necessary, they went on to say that the developers prefer that
• 44:07
  the healers spend the majority of their time healing.
• 44:12
  They they want to keep an eye on healer damage but focus on how
• 44:17
  much they're bringing two groups total contribution.
• 44:20
  So they want they want healers to to not be mostly dpsing,
• 44:25
  which is for discipline, priest and holy Paladin's and Miss
• 44:31
  Weaver. Thanks, I feel.
• 44:33
  I feel like there's a lot of those players that are just
• 44:36
  like, you know, let me do damage make me make me a soft DPS, but
• 44:41
  but they have kind of solidified with this that they want healers
• 44:45
  to spend the majority of their time healing.
• 44:49
  But they're going to be still keeping an eye on damage that he
• 44:53
  lives are able to do because ultimately that group DPS is
• 44:58
  something that you kind of have to consider when looking at at
• 45:01
  these at these fights and how these encounters are designed
• 45:05
  and healers being able to focus more of their time in putting
• 45:11
  damage into the boss because they're not having to focus so
• 45:15
  much on keeping health bars in healthy spot.
• 45:18
  Means that the fighters the fights are going to be shorter
• 45:23
  than initially intended to be whenever they were going through
• 45:27
  and designing these in the first place.
• 45:29
  So they're they're kind of Taking taking it back to to
• 45:34
  making sure that healers are more focused on healing.
• 45:37
  They are DPS added a lot of class class Buffs back in dragon
• 45:47
  dragon flight and kind of walked it back.
• 45:50
  They feel like they Morgan feels like they're happy where they
• 45:54
  landed but are open to feedback. I my feedback is more more
• 45:59
  individual Buffs. I feel like Is is something that
• 46:03
  that they can, they can. always like incrementally, turn the
• 46:08
  knob back on, but if you get to a certain point of saturation,
• 46:13
  like, what we saw with rattle, which King Classic definitely,
• 46:19
  definitely, is something that I would say is a little bit too
• 46:24
  heavy on the individual class Buffs that are available, but I
• 46:28
  feel like, I feel like where they're at now with dragonflight
• 46:32
  is Is an OK spot. It can change.
• 46:38
  Of course, like we haven't seen what the impact on.
• 46:41
  Like the rating situation is going to be with with paladins.
• 46:45
  Now, having a beer as I'm sure, I'm sure that there will be more
• 46:50
  spots for Paladin's or people willing to bring Paladin's
• 46:54
  outside of there. Outside of what they normally
• 46:58
  would be brought for because of that, I was Battle, Reza's are
• 47:03
  an important part of the red team toolkit, but we'll see.
• 47:07
  We'll see how things ended up shaking out while we forget into
• 47:10
  the actual raid. So they wanted class Buffs to be
• 47:17
  class specific and not unique to to a certain spec which I feel
• 47:25
  like. I feel like is a good place to
• 47:26
  Abby is like, again, making the comparison back to wrath Lich
• 47:30
  King because it's the thing that's constantly on my mind.
• 47:36
  The, the example that I would would pull for this is shamans
• 47:43
  for, for the example, of a class that has a multitude of clasps
• 47:51
  that it can bring, but has stronger class.
• 47:53
  Post depending, on which back you are, the Differences being
• 47:57
  between elemental shaman and Enhancement Shaman, both of
• 48:02
  which have Buffs. They basically only have one
• 48:07
  buff that is unique to the shaman class, and everything
• 48:10
  else is kind of can be covered by by other things.
• 48:15
  So, we went from a situation and burning Crusade were, we had at
• 48:19
  least five shamans in every raid team at minimum 5 shamans to
• 48:25
  now, only needing one. So it's kind of kind of been a
• 48:29
  yo-yo of like we're class-specific Buffs have been
• 48:34
  needed, wear specs, specific bus have been needed as well because
• 48:37
  you also consider like boomkin and Shadow priest and, and
• 48:42
  Paladin's and how their bus kind of effect.
• 48:45
  Raid composition has changed radically over time.
• 48:51
  And the last note on on Buffs being bloodlust being added to a
• 48:59
  voters, they felt like the ratio of classes that brought
• 49:04
  bloodlust kind of diminished over time.
• 49:07
  So they wanted to inject new blood into it.
• 49:09
  Because before that we had, we had shamans and mages, they
• 49:15
  could bring it. And then Hunters got the
• 49:18
  ability. In visiting cataclysm I think it
• 49:22
  was in cataclysm that they got the ability to have.
• 49:25
  I think it was like ancestral or ancient power or something,
• 49:30
  something like that engine hysteria.
• 49:32
  Yes, thank you. So we had we had those three
• 49:38
  classes that could bring it and I think didn't at one point they
• 49:42
  took it away from Hunters. No, they took away Hunters.
• 49:48
  Having the be raised on there. That's right.
• 49:51
  That's right. I couldn't remember if it was
• 49:53
  the if it was about a residue of the SS, but either way.
• 49:58
  So we only had those two classes they could they could bring
• 50:01
  blood lust. So, having now that we have,
• 50:04
  Thirteen classes in the game, having more classes available
• 50:09
  that have bloodlust is always a good thing especially because
• 50:16
  the main reason that you want those is for the smaller group
• 50:19
  content because in a raid setting like the likelihood of
• 50:22
  you getting one of the classes that has the buff that you're
• 50:25
  looking for the cool down that you're looking for is relatively
• 50:29
  high but in the small group content you don't want.
• 50:32
  You don't want a situation where every Has to have a pest, have a
• 50:36
  shaman, every group, has to have a mage.
• 50:38
  You want, you want the ability for for diverse group, cops to
• 50:44
  be, to be able to to flourish in that situation without because
• 50:52
  like you're obviously you're going to be missing something in
• 50:56
  a five-person setting, but if they can lower the number of
• 51:02
  things that you are potentially missing, And that makes things
• 51:07
  better for for everybody. then there were, there were a couple
• 51:16
  of things, a couple of things that they were asked that they
• 51:21
  don't really have immediate plans for but are thinking about
• 51:28
  those things mainly being abilities, still having half a
• 51:35
  global cooldown I'm trying to think trying to think which
• 51:41
  abilities totems don't have half a g, c d.
• 51:47
  Some of them, they've made improvements to where they have
• 51:50
  up, more upfront value. And then over there duration,
• 51:54
  they'll do some stuff. They've also changed, like, I'm
• 51:58
  going to talk a lot of Shaman here because this is one of
• 52:00
  those nitty-gritty things that if you don't know the class, you
• 52:02
  don't know what's been affected but also things that Do have a
• 52:10
  gcd but didn't have an immediate effect.
• 52:12
  Those a lot of things that they have been adjusting with.
• 52:17
  Remember at the beginning of shadowlands, they added in
• 52:22
  effects to ascendance so that when you did it, there were
• 52:26
  things that happens. Particularly originally, it was
• 52:30
  only Resto that had the healing Burst when they when they use
• 52:35
  descendants. But then they added in The lava
• 52:41
  lava burst on anything that has your flame shock when you go
• 52:44
  with elemental or the AOE damage for the enhancement.
• 52:51
  Those are the sort of things that they're adjusting their the
• 52:54
  half tcd thing is sort of a sorry half measure because there
• 53:00
  are some things that they did that aren't super impactful but
• 53:06
  they don't they don't want you to drop a Poison cleansing totem
• 53:09
  to remove one poison and then one poison and then one poison.
• 53:13
  So now it it hits multiple people at first so you feel like
• 53:17
  hey I put that Talon point in there.
• 53:18
  I'm using that gcd and there which is directly.
• 53:21
  Removing damaged you could be doing and it's good.
• 53:26
  There are other ones that aren't quite like that.
• 53:30
  Again, looking at totems. The Mana spring totem, where you
• 53:35
  drop it. And in one form earlier on in in
• 53:39
  the testing you dropped it and it slowly gave Mana back to it
• 53:43
  to everybody that felt incredibly bad because it was a
• 53:48
  maintenance thing that you would if you really wanted to have any
• 53:51
  impact whatsoever, you would be dropping it on cool down to give
• 53:57
  your, give your healers man over time.
• 54:01
  But They've changed it so that it does damage based on you
• 54:05
  pressing and active button in your rotation and trying to
• 54:10
  trying to do that but like I still think it's short.
• 54:12
  Anyways moving on to our next Point.
• 54:15
  Yeah. And the other two things they
• 54:17
  don't have plans currently to implement, but Definitely have
• 54:24
  on the mind is adding more armor pieces to the Evoque is Dragon
• 54:28
  form. And then also unique tier tents
• 54:31
  for Mythic plus, which is something that I haven't seen
• 54:35
  personally be called for, but I can't imagine it not being
• 54:39
  called for just because there are so many people that make
• 54:43
  Mythic plus like their primary mode of experiencing the in-game
• 54:47
  naturally. I think it would make sense for
• 54:49
  these. These players that are like
• 54:51
  pushing 25 is of 30s, That you know, they want something that
• 54:55
  is a little bit unique to what they're doing and to be able to
• 54:58
  show off what they're doing in much the same way that a myth, a
• 55:02
  greater has something unique to show off and a high-level PVP
• 55:07
  player, there's always these unique PVP tents for four sets
• 55:12
  so it makes sense just because if they plus has become its own
• 55:16
  Standalone and game and I think that's great.
• 55:19
  Yeah and while head wasn't the only interview that And a had.
• 55:24
  He also had an interview with liquid Max Mana.
• 55:26
  Do you want to talk about that interview?
• 55:28
  Sure. So again this was Morgan day and
• 55:34
  the first question that we have here is that or rather the first
• 55:38
  answer that was given was talking about the team and their
• 55:41
  approach to the Alpha and the beta.
• 55:44
  How in this round of of Alpha. It wasn't like previous alphas
• 55:50
  and wasn't like previous betas. There was a very much a focus.
• 55:53
  Jean. They're testing.
• 55:54
  That's what we saw with. Mythic + only being opened on
• 55:57
  the weekends and then shutting down.
• 55:59
  That's what we saw with one's own being active, shutting that
• 56:02
  down and putting the next Zone into testing and the dungeons
• 56:06
  that became available. So that people were focused on
• 56:09
  what they were testing, they got the data that they needed and
• 56:12
  then they shut it down. So that people weren't trying to
• 56:15
  create the perfect Mythic plus pull pull route before the game
• 56:20
  dungeon even went live, which really is something you.
• 56:23
  Should be doing in live in the community Tire Community should
• 56:26
  be involved in, not just the people who were lucky enough to
• 56:29
  get into the Beta working, then says that adding too much
• 56:35
  incentive into the great Vault. Such as ways to add tertiary
• 56:39
  stats with tokens would make players feel that they have to
• 56:44
  maximize their vault. This is very true if We already
• 56:50
  have people that will remain nameless that hate Mythic plus,
• 56:54
  just because it gives too much gear, people would hate having
• 56:58
  to do all all of those things, including PVP and Mythic plus,
• 57:04
  just to get enough options in their vault that they could skip
• 57:09
  all of those options to then be able to put in the perfect
• 57:12
  tertiary like Lich to make their, to make their gear that
• 57:18
  they have the best. Best, and the great vault is.
• 57:26
  Very contentious or ready? People say oh I keep on getting
• 57:31
  the same piece loot over and over again, the great the great
• 57:35
  Vault of disappointment and such things and it's supposed to be
• 57:41
  this sort of bonus reward, but people are expecting that every
• 57:44
  time they open up the great Vault, it has to give them
• 57:47
  something amazing. And the problem is that if that
• 57:52
  becomes the case, then the great vault, Becomes mandatory, people
• 57:59
  will feel that they have to do an extra half hour of rating to
• 58:04
  get that extra slot in the vault and it'll lead to some very
• 58:07
  degenerate Behavior. Um, they then say that building
• 58:13
  on this, he offers the suggestion that maybe adding
• 58:17
  ketchup mechanics to the Vault would be the way such as being
• 58:21
  able to loot multiple items from your Vault.
• 58:24
  If you're behind, I, we have heard this before.
• 58:29
  I wish they had implemented something at this point, but I
• 58:34
  guess not the one that I would put out which was really
• 58:37
  amazing. Is that even if you are, On
• 58:44
  schedule with your great Vault and you open up your great
• 58:47
  fault. And there's two amazing things
• 58:50
  in there, you can freeze one of the options and say give that to
• 58:56
  me next week. I think that that would also
• 59:01
  also help even out some of the luck because sometimes it's just
• 59:03
  like, oh, right at the beginning of the Season.
• 59:05
  You like, oh man, there's like two three, good options and
• 59:09
  being able to freeze one of those options.
• 59:12
  Maybe you have a bad week. Eek and that gives you a token
• 59:14
  to allow you to freeze. One of the options would be it
• 59:17
  would be good. I'm not sure there's multiple
• 59:19
  things that they're thinking about most things that have been
• 59:21
  going flying around the community.
• 59:23
  But yeah, I think that Ketchup is good over incentivizing his
• 59:29
  bad it's a very hard rubber band.
• 59:31
  A very hard Balancing Act to get the balance of the great Vault,
• 59:36
  right? Many things.
• 59:39
  Yeah, further designs for Mythic + V.
• 59:45
  Progression need to be in line with raid Vault progression and
• 59:50
  but not as much with PVP, PVP is kind of its own Beast.
• 59:56
  The team still wants to have rating be the main method for
• 1:00:03
  you to get your tier sets early in the season.
• 1:00:07
  This is very much hammered home by the fact that the way to
• 1:00:11
  convert Pieces in to enter into raid tear.
• 1:00:16
  The catalyst is not available until six weeks into the raid
• 1:00:21
  which means that it will not affect the race to world first
• 1:00:24
  whatsoever. And the catalyst is purely there
• 1:00:27
  as a catch-up in order for you to complete your tear pieces,
• 1:00:31
  not have Ali Fortier pieces within a month of the raid
• 1:00:34
  opening up. Reading competition is generally
• 1:00:42
  at the front of the Season which is again, very true for for the
• 1:00:47
  racing world. First, we're Mythic plus and PVP
• 1:00:50
  it can be pushed further into the season.
• 1:00:52
  You see a lot of it people building up to finally getting
• 1:00:57
  to their 15s and previous Seasons or 20s in dragon fight.
• 1:01:02
  Isn't something that happens immediately at least two at the
• 1:01:07
  very Quickest. We saw in season 4 which was
• 1:01:12
  pretty much an accelerated joke of a season.
• 1:01:15
  People were doing it in two weeks and that was unnatural and
• 1:01:18
  oh my goodness. I can't believe that happened.
• 1:01:20
  Usually you don't see that from such a large portion of the
• 1:01:25
  audience, I say such a large portion because, of course,
• 1:01:27
  there are people who are going to message in and say, you
• 1:01:30
  should proofread your your script.
• 1:01:33
  Clearly people can do it in the first week if they pushed to
• 1:01:36
  this level? Yes, of course, there are
• 1:01:38
  exceptions but we will We're talking about the general trends
• 1:01:41
  of players. The team will definitely iterate
• 1:01:49
  a lot on talents. We talked about this with the
• 1:01:51
  previous one throughout the expansion.
• 1:01:53
  I think this is great. What we had going between season
• 1:01:56
  2 and season 3? A lot of adjustments happened
• 1:01:58
  and suddenly we had new bills that were viable.
• 1:02:01
  I hope that continues into Dragon flight.
• 1:02:04
  So if something is completely left by the wayside in a
• 1:02:08
  particular selection Choice node, or if nobody ever expects
• 1:02:14
  down into one, Part of the tree because it's all like, just
• 1:02:17
  absolute poop. I hope that they do address
• 1:02:20
  those talents. So that people are like, oh
• 1:02:22
  yeah, I can play with this, and this is great and I don't feel
• 1:02:25
  like I'm handicapping myself by going, like dual wield Frost,
• 1:02:29
  right? Let people play their
• 1:02:31
  obliterate, build and enjoy it. Then shouldn't it be the other
• 1:02:36
  way around? I'm sorry two-handed Frost, I
• 1:02:41
  apologize, but it still obliterate not a not pillar
• 1:02:43
  Frost, right? Very rare.
• 1:02:45
  Right, right. Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Anyways. Choosing between important
• 1:02:54
  utility or damage, such as solar Beam on balance.
• 1:02:57
  Ered, is something the team will look into an address.
• 1:03:02
  I know that this one is a sticking point for balance
• 1:03:07
  through it as a very specific example.
• 1:03:13
  And I know it does suck when you have to give up like your
• 1:03:17
  throughput, what you're trying to do, what you're trying to
• 1:03:19
  like. Contribute to the team as damage
• 1:03:24
  to do utility but sort of an aside to this.
• 1:03:31
  I honestly think that generally when people go into do rating,
• 1:03:38
  there's two games that they're playing, there is the game where
• 1:03:42
  they raid with their team and they beat the boss.
• 1:03:44
  And hey, yeah. And there are that sub game that
• 1:03:49
  exists on Raider. I, oh, Warcraft logs.
• 1:03:53
  I got the 99th percentile parse and it's like yeah.
• 1:03:58
  But like you ignored every mechanic and poor live had to
• 1:04:01
  run around to dealing with everything and they're like it's
• 1:04:07
  always going to be where that's why we have this entire thing of
• 1:04:11
  like six priests dumping power infusion to cheese a log and all
• 1:04:16
  those sort of weird things that happen because people are
• 1:04:19
  playing two separate games that At certain point and it does
• 1:04:22
  suck to give up some throughput for utility.
• 1:04:29
  But at some point players need to figure out what game actually
• 1:04:33
  matters to them. And I feel that there's always
• 1:04:37
  going to be some weird tension between utility and damage.
• 1:04:42
  Even if it is the usage of a gcd in order to activate that
• 1:04:46
  utility Next right now. On the talent selection, you can
• 1:04:54
  have up to 10 Talent loadouts. They could introduce more over
• 1:04:59
  time. But that's where they have right
• 1:05:01
  now. I know there are some people who
• 1:05:03
  already have their 10 loadouts plus a little sheet that they
• 1:05:06
  have on their desktop for the additional ones because they
• 1:05:08
  can't fit it in. I have not reached that point
• 1:05:12
  yet because we're at level 60 and I would not even start doing
• 1:05:17
  the multiple loadout. Until I'm getting into a rating
• 1:05:20
  Mythic plus setting at content that I care about and chat lines
• 1:05:25
  content is not what I hear about.
• 1:05:27
  That said I can understand them and tality of people who want to
• 1:05:30
  have all those loadouts. It's just not there yet.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah. Do you.
• 1:05:37
  How many loaves do you have for your characters?
• 1:05:39
  Sorry. How many laps you have for your
• 1:05:41
  main character, right now? Which would be different than a
• 1:05:45
  than adult, which some all right.
• 1:05:48
  Even for me some ulcer on starter build and I don't want
• 1:05:50
  to hear about it. So on all of the characters that
• 1:05:55
  I have at level 60 right now I have two builds one primarily
• 1:06:02
  focused on a lie and the other primarily focused on single
• 1:06:06
  Target. And so that's that's where I'm
• 1:06:09
  sitting in all of those and that's likely going to be the
• 1:06:13
  trend except, for whatever character that I have to be my
• 1:06:17
  main that I'm going in and rating.
• 1:06:19
  With will likely have probably probably up to like three or
• 1:06:24
  four like an AOE, a single Target, a cleave and like a
• 1:06:32
  weird like utility build that that is used for.
• 1:06:36
  Like, A specific purposes. So I don't I'm not gonna go like
• 1:06:40
  super hardcore crazy with like, concocting, like, perfect,
• 1:06:44
  perfect builds for each individual fight in a raid, tier
• 1:06:49
  like, like, some people will, but I'm definitely definitely
• 1:06:53
  going to be like, making sure that I have diverse profiles
• 1:06:58
  that I'm able to like key and do for your like broader Niche
• 1:07:03
  situations, if that makes sense. Okay, um, the team has been
• 1:07:14
  looking at what they look for in the Mythic plus seasonal affixes
• 1:07:22
  and what they landed on. Is that the seasonal affixes
• 1:07:26
  will add more group coordination.
• 1:07:29
  This is very true for the current effects that we're going
• 1:07:33
  to be getting in season one. The need to Dispel the debuff
• 1:07:41
  with somebody with the opposite debuff but also hold on to it
• 1:07:47
  till just the last second so you can get the additional
• 1:07:51
  throughput is very much a coordination thing in a pug
• 1:07:55
  setting. You could have somebody just run
• 1:07:58
  off and Screw the group, you could have somebody who just
• 1:08:04
  runs right into you because it's like, oh, I don't know what to
• 1:08:05
  do with. I don't want to, I don't want to
• 1:08:07
  lose this. You could have two people who
• 1:08:09
  get greedy and try and get off that last cast thinking the
• 1:08:12
  other person's going to do it. So it is very much a group,
• 1:08:15
  coordination effort and I want to see how this one lands.
• 1:08:21
  I haven't had much any testing with the seasonal, affix, I was
• 1:08:27
  not testing dungeon, Is on the beta, then a big.
• 1:08:34
  Yeah, duh moment was that the team recognizes that the patch
• 1:08:40
  Cadence of shadowlands left a lot to be desired.
• 1:08:44
  Yes, duh. But their plans for future patch
• 1:08:48
  content have evolved quite a bit based on this feedback.
• 1:08:55
  I will point to the to what Ian has a Costa said in the
• 1:09:00
  interview that we had with radar I/O and with Unshackled Fury,
• 1:09:06
  the proof is going to be an action.
• 1:09:09
  I am really looking forward to come January, the team, gets
• 1:09:14
  back in and we start hearing about not next season, but stuff
• 1:09:19
  in between the seasons, Let the Season go.
• 1:09:22
  The Pickle five, six months that they that they're aiming for
• 1:09:26
  that's great. But I'd love to see in the
• 1:09:29
  middle of the Season. We got a Brawler's Guild in the
• 1:09:30
  middle of a season, we get new story content in the middle of
• 1:09:33
  the Season. We get things that are going to
• 1:09:35
  disrupt the power structure but are going to keep the game fresh
• 1:09:39
  and in and inviting, I think that's going to be great for me.
• 1:09:44
  Who solos, rather, who like loves one MMO, I think it's
• 1:09:50
  going to be hell for people who are trying to catch up and are
• 1:09:53
  Bouncing between multiple games. If you are somebody who's been
• 1:09:56
  playing Pokemon go and be like, oh man, this is great.
• 1:09:59
  If you're somebody who has been diving into the latest god of
• 1:10:05
  war and that's weed eating up your time, imagine that plus all
• 1:10:09
  the the content coming out in Warcraft and Warcraft, classic,
• 1:10:13
  it's going to destroy your social life or your ability to
• 1:10:16
  keep up with any of them. And it's going to be great for
• 1:10:19
  me, but I am really worried for people who Are, you know, the
• 1:10:23
  variety Gamers? Yeah.
• 1:10:27
  The next part is going to be the team has been experimenting with
• 1:10:34
  making cooldown Buffs worth triggering a global cooldown.
• 1:10:38
  Hey, did we read this before? Yes, we did.
• 1:10:41
  We already made our thoughts. Clear on this.
• 1:10:45
  And then the team doesn't buff this particular or other doesn't
• 1:10:50
  balance particular cooldowns from Um, one Speck against
• 1:10:54
  another, the example that they used is ice block versus Divine
• 1:10:58
  protection, right? But another one that was talked
• 1:11:03
  about much earlier and beta cycle was a cool down from a
• 1:11:08
  hunter versus that of a fire Mage, right?
• 1:11:12
  Cool down. Cool Downs.
• 1:11:14
  In the fire Mage, huge Spike cooldowns with the same, 2
• 1:11:19
  minute cooldown for the Hunter. Nowhere near a strong.
• 1:11:24
  And they and the answer was simple outside of the cooldown.
• 1:11:29
  It's problematic for the fire Mage.
• 1:11:33
  They're doing relatively low to low damage hoping for hot
• 1:11:38
  streaks fishing for for that particular thing.
• 1:11:42
  But Hunters are doing fairly good damage all the way, get a
• 1:11:46
  little bit of buff and then go back to fairly good in order for
• 1:11:50
  the buff to be worth more. Your valleys need to be deeper
• 1:11:55
  for your Peaks, to be higher. Your valleys need to be deeper
• 1:11:58
  and that's a Completely different play style.
• 1:12:01
  I love having now played so many of these different aspects that
• 1:12:04
  they do. Play different, that there is a
• 1:12:07
  different little mini game, and Cadence to my rotation, and way
• 1:12:13
  that I approach the same fight on different specs.
• 1:12:18
  And for people who perhaps don't like the way one Speck plays, it
• 1:12:22
  would be hell. If all of the specs played the
• 1:12:25
  same way and that's why we keep fighting against homogenisation.
• 1:12:29
  We don't want it so no they're not going to balance one cool
• 1:12:33
  down from one Speck against another cool down from another
• 1:12:36
  Speck. Before we move into the next
• 1:12:38
  interview, I'd like to take the time to thank our people who
• 1:12:45
  listen to this show and give us five star reviews.
• 1:12:49
  So this week I would like to thank I do and I do left us a
• 1:12:54
  five star review over on the bonus role production.
• 1:12:59
  Cast directory. Thank you guys for leaving those
• 1:13:02
  reviews. They are the best way to support
• 1:13:04
  the show in a non-monetary fashion and lead people and new
• 1:13:09
  heirs to our show. Now, the next one that I want to
• 1:13:15
  cover is actually the novel review with Steve, the new sir,
• 1:13:21
  because this one was, again, I loved when Steve takes the
• 1:13:26
  spotlight, he talked a lot about the lore and I'd like to, like,
• 1:13:29
  take a little bit of a break from the nitty-gritty and then
• 1:13:32
  we'll end with a little bit of a vocre.
• 1:13:33
  Talk sad. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:35
  Sounds fantastic. Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  So novel prolific lure person on.
• 1:13:44
  YouTube's and in the community at large, got to sit down with
• 1:13:48
  students. I think this is his first
• 1:13:49
  interview with Steve denoiser that it got and it was, it was
• 1:13:55
  fantastic. It was it was utterly fantastic.
• 1:13:58
  I think at one point novel blurted out, I wish I could
• 1:14:04
  talk. Just like, have you sit down
• 1:14:06
  with me for like six hours. I have so many more questions,
• 1:14:10
  but yeah, it was a fantastic interview.
• 1:14:13
  You and it was since Steve is the narrative director for for
• 1:14:21
  Warcraft. This interview was primarily
• 1:14:24
  about the story that we're going to be going into and and talked
• 1:14:29
  a little bit about about where we're coming from in
• 1:14:35
  shadowlands. And some of the other things
• 1:14:37
  that are that have been set up for the lead in into into Dragon
• 1:14:43
  flight. So first thing right off the bat
• 1:14:48
  was Steve kind of reaffirming one of their previous stated
• 1:14:55
  goals to have less less story, reveals like major story beat
• 1:15:02
  reveals happen outside of the game.
• 1:15:05
  So in the novels and short stories and all of the extra
• 1:15:09
  curricular content that comes out around the story of
• 1:15:13
  Warcraft. A went less of that to be.
• 1:15:18
  Like required reading to understand what's happening in
• 1:15:21
  in the, the overall story of Warcraft.
• 1:15:24
  They want it to kind of reel it back into into having those
• 1:15:30
  stories be more about the, the character development of
• 1:15:36
  individuals, within the story rather than being pieces.
• 1:15:40
  That that carry a lot of the, The Narrative of what's
• 1:15:44
  happening. The events that are happening in
• 1:15:46
  just to give more Context of what's going on in these, in
• 1:15:51
  these characters Minds as the events are unfolding around
• 1:15:55
  them. The events from in the game, by
• 1:15:59
  the way. So I feel like it's very
• 1:16:01
  important. That's, that's been one of the
• 1:16:04
  major complaints about the story of Warcraft is that they've
• 1:16:08
  they've come out with some phenomenal books.
• 1:16:11
  In phenomenal, like the the audio dramas and the the the
• 1:16:17
  short stories that have come out have felt like required reading
• 1:16:22
  in order to understand the full context of everything that's
• 1:16:25
  happening. Like the the Audio Drama leading
• 1:16:29
  into Legion was probably the biggest one because that that
• 1:16:34
  like directly set up the events that we were going into and
• 1:16:38
  there was a pretty sizable Gap in in.
• 1:16:41
  Knowledge. If you would just played the
• 1:16:42
  game and didn't listen to the audio drama and it also like the
• 1:16:47
  more things that they that they have, that are in these
• 1:16:51
  off-the-beaten-path, places the the less Those those events are
• 1:16:59
  going to be able to be observed by people.
• 1:17:02
  Like, newer people coming into the game after the fact years
• 1:17:05
  later to be able to come in and absorb that that story is as
• 1:17:10
  well as they should be able to. And that's, that's something
• 1:17:16
  that they're they're working on fixing or working towards a
• 1:17:21
  solution to make sure that that newer players coming into the
• 1:17:25
  game for people that just want to To explore stories that
• 1:17:30
  happened in the game, prior to, to their, to their start of
• 1:17:35
  playing the game that they're able to get in and understand
• 1:17:38
  what's happening in the world and understand how the world
• 1:17:41
  changed over time. But the the middle section of
• 1:17:49
  this interview was talking more about more about the Jailer and
• 1:17:54
  about the shadow lands, and how it how it affected, things, and
• 1:17:59
  events, and how it shaped things.
• 1:18:02
  And the first ones on top of that.
• 1:18:05
  So the, the first thing was about the Jailer and about about
• 1:18:11
  how his story wasn't meant to rewrite the the stories that
• 1:18:16
  were there were told before, I'm so the story of arthas and the
• 1:18:19
  story of So vanes and all of these other characters and
• 1:18:28
  kel'thuzad, it wasn't meant to rewrite those stories.
• 1:18:32
  It was just to give additional context and meant to show that
• 1:18:36
  death is like as a cosmic Force. They that like has its own
• 1:18:43
  Ambitions and goals and the Jailer.
• 1:18:50
  The Jailer was just one of the one of the characters involved
• 1:18:56
  in death, that we're putting his own machinations into effect,
• 1:19:01
  and, and laying groundwork for goals that he had specifically
• 1:19:05
  that that were separate from what was being done with death,
• 1:19:15
  like capital D, death is something Steve said in the
• 1:19:17
  interview capital D death was you know, like it sits on 4
• 1:19:22
  Stone thing and the Jailer is separate but still involved in
• 1:19:26
  that that, you know, and you know, also bringing bringing to
• 1:19:32
  light, you're not bringing to light but reiterating the point
• 1:19:36
  that all of the cosmic forces are are all equally trying to
• 1:19:42
  trying to Vie for power of the cosmos and become the dominant
• 1:19:45
  force and the Jailer acting through death was was a was a
• 1:19:51
  way way for death, to, to have that power, and grab it for its
• 1:19:57
  own and then talk a little bit about the first ones and about
• 1:20:04
  about how there was Like a lot of discussion around, you know,
• 1:20:11
  the implications of the first ones in and how like the first
• 1:20:15
  ones are beings that predated the cosmos that ordered the
• 1:20:20
  cosmos as it as it was in a similar way to how the Titans
• 1:20:24
  order planets. The first one's kind of ordered
• 1:20:27
  the cosmos and they, they are beings that are above the beings
• 1:20:35
  that we're dealing with. Like, with, with the pantheon of
• 1:20:39
  Death with the Titan Pantheon, their kind of above them.
• 1:20:45
  But the interesting part that came about the discussion about
• 1:20:48
  the first ones was that. Our Fate are our characters,
• 1:20:54
  Fates wasn't predestined necessarily.
• 1:21:00
  There were, there's a lot of talk of prophecies.
• 1:21:02
  Like you going through the Shadowland story, there's a lot
• 1:21:05
  of talk of Prophecy and about how we're fulfilling a prophecy
• 1:21:08
  and there are a lot of like a lot of moments in the game where
• 1:21:14
  like going through the story where we're arriving at a
• 1:21:17
  precise time at a precise location, to be able to fulfill
• 1:21:20
  a certain thing in the and it's taken as we are fulfilling
• 1:21:26
  prophecies, but the way Steve put it and I think this is kind
• 1:21:31
  of brilliant is that What happened was that the first
• 1:21:37
  one's kind of predicted what was what could happen and the way
• 1:21:43
  that he described it best was was about how like the the way
• 1:21:50
  that the void and the light view the the possibilities of time.
• 1:21:58
  And in that the the void sees all possibilities for ever.
• 1:22:02
  They can see all the pathways that go.
• 1:22:04
  Through the future and then the light has the One path that they
• 1:22:09
  can see. And the way that he described,
• 1:22:13
  the first one's ability to see time is that it's kind of an
• 1:22:16
  accurate, melding of both ways to see the time so they can see
• 1:22:24
  all possibilities. But they can also see the good
• 1:22:29
  ways they can. They can discern.
• 1:22:34
  The the, the path that they, that they want to see and see
• 1:22:44
  which ways are the best ways, quote-unquote.
• 1:22:49
  So they, they are able to account for all of these
• 1:22:54
  different possibilities. While also being able to kind of
• 1:22:57
  procure procure, the the for lack of a better term.
• 1:23:03
  Biology the timeline that they want to come to fruition and
• 1:23:06
  they just happen to lay plans that they knew were going to be
• 1:23:12
  like our characters were going to be in the in the exact spot
• 1:23:15
  in the exact time of thing to be in order for these things to
• 1:23:18
  unfold the way that they unfolded.
• 1:23:21
  Which all the people that saw what, the first ones did, and
• 1:23:24
  had studied with the first ones did.
• 1:23:25
  And we're trying to uncover, the Mysteries left behind by the
• 1:23:29
  first ones took these as prophecies, but they weren't
• 1:23:33
  They weren't like explicit prophecies that were set out.
• 1:23:36
  They were just predictions that happen to be highly accurate.
• 1:23:44
  But these these denizens of the shadowlands kind of turn them
• 1:23:50
  into prophecies, But ultimately what Steve reiterated is that
• 1:24:00
  the thing that Mortals have over all of the rest of the denizens
• 1:24:04
  of the cosmos is Free Will. So they're their ability to
• 1:24:08
  choose whether or not to do something, is something that is
• 1:24:12
  is not Not solely unique to Mortals, but is something that
• 1:24:20
  that definitely sets them apart. Like they're their range of Free
• 1:24:26
  Will is something that sets them apart from from the rest of the
• 1:24:29
  denizens of the of the cosmos. But the rest of the interview
• 1:24:35
  novel just kind of fired off a couple of quick, quick fire
• 1:24:39
  questions. One about the effects of the
• 1:24:45
  cosmos and and all of these cosmological powers on the story
• 1:24:50
  and dragonflight which Steve said there's not going to be a
• 1:24:54
  focus on it but as with all things the cosmic powers or
• 1:25:00
  always, you know, pulling and poking and prodding doing what
• 1:25:04
  they're going to do and they are going to have some influence on
• 1:25:07
  the story but it's not going to be the focus.
• 1:25:10
  They're very much bringing it back to Strudel Azeroth like
• 1:25:14
  ground in storytelling and not have it.
• 1:25:16
  Be this grandiose thing. Like what we had with Shadow
• 1:25:21
  mentioned that the old gods are dead but that the void that
• 1:25:24
  still you know, very much in line with what what he said
• 1:25:28
  previously about the the cosmic Powers.
• 1:25:30
  The void is still present in Azeroth, the effects of the Void
• 1:25:35
  are still very much felt by the denizens of Azeroth, but the old
• 1:25:42
  Odds are for all intents and purposes dead.
• 1:25:45
  And then the last thing was about what the, the main focus
• 1:25:52
  of the story. Actually is going to be of
• 1:25:55
  dragon flight, which is alexstrasza, has plan to, to
• 1:25:59
  bring the power of the Dragon flights back, which is something
• 1:26:02
  that we have been talking about over the course, the last couple
• 1:26:06
  of weeks because, you know, they've been putting out the
• 1:26:10
  they've been putting out the the shorts that that have kind of
• 1:26:15
  been, you know, laying the groundwork for the story that
• 1:26:18
  were that were going into and with, you know, the phase 2
• 1:26:24
  beginning last week, we got to see, we get to see a little bit
• 1:26:30
  more of the motivations coming from these characters and Steve
• 1:26:35
  gave a little bit more context to this to the to the reasoning
• 1:26:38
  behind it. And that's that tier is dead.
• 1:26:42
  He's been dead for a very long time.
• 1:26:44
  And so since tear was the one that gave the the aspects their
• 1:26:49
  power, they have to find another way to get it and alexstrasza.
• 1:26:56
  Seems to have a plan and we're going to be going through the
• 1:27:01
  dragon Isles. Not only you know, fighting
• 1:27:06
  against the the Primal lists and razza Gareth and the rest of the
• 1:27:12
  the Primal dragons. But also are going to be going
• 1:27:16
  through exploring to try and bring the flights back to order
• 1:27:22
  and so that they Can see if that is effective in getting their
• 1:27:31
  powers restored back to us. So that that is, you know, what
• 1:27:37
  mainly what we have to look forward to in the story of
• 1:27:40
  dragon flight. At least at least in this
• 1:27:43
  beginning chunk of narrative that we're going to be getting
• 1:27:48
  next week. Yeah.
• 1:27:53
  Starting next week, we are diving into the dragon Isles and
• 1:27:57
  this past week like I was saying at the beginning, we got a
• 1:28:00
  volkers, I got to make many of ochres.
• 1:28:03
  You have also played invoker and the last interview we're going
• 1:28:06
  to cover this week is preheat, a vocre interview with senior game
• 1:28:13
  designer G burger. And so, this one was basically a
• 1:28:19
  rundown of the introduction of Smokers.
• 1:28:22
  And what makes them tick. Hover is the big thing about a
• 1:28:28
  volkers, it is part of their parcel.
• 1:28:31
  This is what allows them temporarily to cast.
• 1:28:33
  Non empowered spells on the move.
• 1:28:36
  He lets them quickly dash out when your first, casting it in.
• 1:28:42
  Highlights their Mobility. Their use of their wings to
• 1:28:45
  like, be that fast-moving Caster, unlike many cases we've
• 1:28:51
  seen since It's mist of Pandaria, where a lot of
• 1:28:54
  casters, just could cast on the move all together, Devastation
• 1:28:58
  Mastery comes from the idea that they need to be fighting large
• 1:29:04
  dragons again. Remember that they were built to
• 1:29:07
  fight against the primals these really nasty enemy dragons.
• 1:29:12
  We talked about that in our last episode, how that plays out in,
• 1:29:17
  in their gameplay. The consideration that a volkers
• 1:29:23
  need to maybe hold back a little bit of their damage to allow
• 1:29:27
  tanks, has to get threat before they fully.
• 1:29:31
  Unleash is part of playing a volkers.
• 1:29:35
  It's something that they're aware of, but not looking to
• 1:29:38
  change by suddenly boosting, tank threat to, let's say,
• 1:29:42
  legion levels, where tanks were doing like, 10 times the thread
• 1:29:47
  and nobody could ever pull off. Of them because threat is
• 1:29:52
  supposed to be part of the game, not supposed to be a huge part,
• 1:29:56
  but it still supposed to be a bit of a consideration.
• 1:30:00
  They are exploring this new mid-range Niche with a volkers.
• 1:30:04
  It is part of their unique role. They said that, if the it
• 1:30:08
  becomes too much of an issue, they might increase it.
• 1:30:12
  But part of the fantasy is part of our fantasy to be in the
• 1:30:16
  thick of the battle up be right up there as As military, they
• 1:30:20
  aren't as cautious or as safe as other casters.
• 1:30:29
  Then when talking about preservation, they talked about
• 1:30:32
  the strength of their burst healing, especially on the
• 1:30:35
  clumped up Allies again. This is something that we were
• 1:30:37
  talking about being similar to Restoration shamans in group
• 1:30:42
  healing and strong with that. They also have that higher
• 1:30:47
  Mobility again and preparation is key to mastering the class.
• 1:30:54
  And again, this goes right back to our conversation that we had
• 1:30:57
  last week where I said set up those Echoes think about what
• 1:31:00
  you're about to do and you can do some amazing things with
• 1:31:04
  that. So it clear, it's clear that as
• 1:31:07
  an advanced class, this is a thinking healer, this is a
• 1:31:10
  thinking DPS, you can't just press 123 and face roll and do
• 1:31:16
  the best damage. You'll get yourself into trouble
• 1:31:19
  or the best healing, you will fail.
• 1:31:23
  Miserably, so the team is happy where empowerment spells are,
• 1:31:29
  but they will fix any bugs, of course.
• 1:31:33
  Echo is designed to be used on a on a few targets.
• 1:31:37
  While Emerald Blossom is best used for met many targets again.
• 1:31:42
  I think this is about that preparation.
• 1:31:45
  You use that Echo, you set that up, you cast a spell.
• 1:31:49
  You can heal people. That would normally be outside
• 1:31:51
  your range. You can make sure that you are
• 1:31:56
  getting around really quickly with things like rescue with
• 1:31:59
  things like your hover. / then, looking forward, the designers
• 1:32:07
  will take the mid-range class into consideration with rage
• 1:32:11
  rate encounters. A voters are considered to be
• 1:32:14
  range for mechanics. I think this is something that
• 1:32:19
  yeah, you're going to have trouble if you were to go
• 1:32:21
  backwards and including into SFO, for fights likes kollek's
• 1:32:25
  of ochres, being ranged, could be problematic, but they are
• 1:32:30
  aware of his existence and in Vault and in future raids,
• 1:32:34
  they're not going to do something.
• 1:32:35
  We're older all the range need to be 40 yards away from each
• 1:32:39
  other or things along light those lines.
• 1:32:43
  The team want a volkers to do competitive damage as DPS, but
• 1:32:47
  Or a hybrid class and gain the necessarily utility because of
• 1:32:52
  it. I know all about that.
• 1:32:54
  Hybrid tax is a past Shaman player or well this is undecided
• 1:32:59
  Shaman player friend. Then there are no plans at the
• 1:33:04
  moment to add in a ton more customization for the track
• 1:33:08
  there but they love adding new customization to the races in
• 1:33:13
  general. And I think that's great.
• 1:33:14
  I think that the one thing that I would say should be a priority
• 1:33:17
  He of course, is that armor that we talked about before adding
• 1:33:20
  more armor to their Jack fear form.
• 1:33:27
  So, with that said, we have one last piece of news.
• 1:33:32
  Today, we had a number of tweets, go out by several
• 1:33:35
  actors. Two of the actors were on
• 1:33:38
  Twitter. Of course, that being David
• 1:33:41
  Harbor, who I know from stranger things.
• 1:33:45
  Yes, and then, Lana, Condor who I know from like playing Jubilee
• 1:33:53
  and X-Men back back away. Ways.
• 1:33:57
  But, she's done other things since and I'm just totally out
• 1:34:00
  of the loop. Off of Twitter, Pedro Pascal,
• 1:34:06
  the Mandalorian himself was also in one of these ads and they're
• 1:34:12
  just fun, I love them. So they got me back.
• 1:34:18
  It brought me back, I'm going to be honest.
• 1:34:20
  They those those commercials brought me back to like the old
• 1:34:24
  days of like, you saw the, the silly.
• 1:34:27
  Wow commercials pop up on TV like the, the Ozzy Osbourne.
• 1:34:31
  And, you know, they've had they've had other advertisement
• 1:34:34
  campaigns in the past. But like these, these are like
• 1:34:38
  similar in in style and feel to those initial ones and it mr.
• 1:34:44
  T to Mohawk. Yeah, makes me so happy makes me
• 1:34:47
  so happy. Especially the petrol Pascal
• 1:34:49
  like drops the bag, arms up for a big Hut, like, ah, ah, such a
• 1:34:54
  such a good commercial. I loved it.
• 1:34:56
  I loved it. Yeah, II, I really do like that.
• 1:35:01
  I think. It's good to smile with Warcraft
• 1:35:04
  again. After such a intense expansion,
• 1:35:10
  such a giant, our expansion, such a dark expansion.
• 1:35:13
  Oh my gosh. Yep, so it's great that they're
• 1:35:17
  they've got dragon flying. They can do these more,
• 1:35:19
  uplifting sort of experience and I it's great.
• 1:35:22
  I've put a link to the compiled one that has all 4 commercials
• 1:35:27
  put together, but do seek out again.
• 1:35:31
  David Harbor. / and Lana Condor on Twitter.
• 1:35:34
  They actually they themselves. Tweet it out there, they're B
• 1:35:39
  first and it was just amazing to see But if you go to the fat
• 1:35:46
  Discord, I've listed them all, they're all there for you to to
• 1:35:49
  see in our community resources or other community Spotlight
• 1:35:54
  section. But with that said, we are going
• 1:35:57
  to get out of here so that I can make my travels for turkey.
• 1:36:03
  I hope that you guys all have an amazing Thanksgiving but live
• 1:36:09
  when you are not celebrating American Thanksgiving, I cannot
• 1:36:12
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• 1:36:14
  When you Celebrating American Thanksgiving.
• 1:36:16
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• 1:36:34
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• 1:36:36
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• 1:36:39
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• 1:36:43
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• 1:36:47
  It's been mentioned multiple times this episode but it is, it
• 1:36:51
  is fantastic. And also in preparation for the
• 1:36:58
  for the launch of an expansion as is as is the usual servers
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• 1:37:08
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  excited conversation happening over there.
• 1:37:13
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• 1:37:20
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• 1:37:24
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• 1:37:27
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