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Damien O'Brien’s BGT Moments & TV-Magic Secrets #243 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys they do magic they are the magic guys.
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Eric Stevens is not in the house. So we have Mr. Bunny today.
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We, we hope to have Eric back again at some point, but it's great to bring your hair to the episode.
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Yeah. right guys and as
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trying to get yeah so guys we
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we're so fortunate when we have um guests from other
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parts of the world especially when they're willing
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to stay up late for us which is a real honor and this
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gentleman coming up we i personally i've
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been watching him since i think it was like one of the first seasons
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of penn and tella fool us and i
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remember watching this guy perform and i was like damn it
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he's so calm cool and collected doing epic
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magic with like this street magic-esque feel
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in a in a show where everyone's coming on in their suits and trying
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to be you know this prolific performer he
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just came on with his cap which i i really uh
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related to and just like smashed it and ever
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since then i've been following his journey and he's just
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been going up and up you know he recently a finalist on britain's got talent
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he now has this wonderful show we're going to talk about that's um slowly taking
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over the world and and and you guys and we're going to talk about a few other
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things he's he's releasing soon or appearing in soon.
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But gentlemen and ladies and wizards, please help me in welcoming.
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Once I get the cue right, Mr. Damien O'Brien.
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That was an entrance that was an entrance that's right damien o'brien welcome
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to the magic guys podcast please tell our friends who are you and what do you do.
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Obviously my name is damien o'brien as you just announced and i'm a magician
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and and also a gamer as well a gamer man how do you have time to enjoy gaming
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first of all that's got to be a,
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you you've got to make time it's like anything you find real passion for you
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you make time right so So I try and give myself two to three hours a day of
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gaming at some point for it all.
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Usually in the chilled hours when I'm like, right, this is when I can switch off for a bit.
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And I find that's just like my little escape from reality and I can just switch off.
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What are you playing specifically? You're doing like role-playing stuff,
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your online Fortnite sort of combat things.
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What's the vibe? so fort fortnight is a big
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one especially with the simpsons seasoning at the moment i'm
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loving that battlefield 6 i'm a huge battlefield
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6 fan so i've been playing that but i do like to
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play a lot of everything um if i'm on my switch i'll be
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playing like donkey kong or mario kart to you
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know i'm always open but i do love story based games as well
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so things like spider-man 2 or the last of us
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and things like that which really just you know like immerse you
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into it they're great games yeah what about asteroids i'll play that i'll go
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into the arcade and play that that's fine that's fine what about my money has
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to go a 12 year old dougie would go dump his allowance into the arcade ah yes.
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That's crazy i appreciate the gaming i'm a
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gamer too digital collectible card games currently but
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real-time strategy and i'm an og unreal
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tournament player so i go back a couple of 30
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years for first-person shooters that's right
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that's right building one game
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at a time we've got a big resurgence now like i got my my
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buddy's son he was like he plays it for like 12 hours like
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straight it's massive those people
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could do that it's crazy the people who can play for like
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12 hours straight but i've got friends who
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stream for like they will do sometimes like marathons where
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they go for like two days like two full days without
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sleep and i'm like oh my how i get
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too hot with all the lights on the heat coming from the
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pc i'm like done i gotta
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take a break like after a while so they're like with fortnight there's a big
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resurgence with it happening with the simpsons and i was at my residency the
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other day where we have like a various types of golf like themed golf course
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sort of thing for the mini golf and one of which is the simpsons couch.
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And we were trying to round up all the kids take a photograph and we go all
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right on the simpsons couch and the mom turns to me and she goes you know these
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kids don't even know what simpsons is,
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and i just said then you were failing them as a parent like
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i didn't even think once and i realized how helpful that
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sound and she was like i go like this simpson should be taught at university
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like i think it's one of the most important things in pop culture great yes
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i agree but she said she goes it's not that it's just that like when you're
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five and six and it's not playing at 6 p.m every day after school or before dinner time,
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It's like, when are they going to watch it? And you're like,
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it's so true that to think there's a generation of people not watching that.
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I wonder if people felt the same way about like, oh, there's people out there
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not watching the Flintstones. I wonder.
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Well, it's all streaming now, right? So like, you've got to go on to that,
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you know, Disney plus stream Simpsons and stuff.
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So I know it's still on certain channels in the UK, but you know,
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everyone's going to stream it now.
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And it's like, oh, when did I find time between this series I'm watching or
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that series or I want to watch this movie.
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And so it's like, what takes priority in these things now?
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So, but yeah, I grew up in the Simpsons. I remember my, my sixth year,
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my sixth birthday, my sixth birthday, I had a Bart Simpson cake.
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Like, you know, that's 34 years ago.
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So like, I had all the Bart toys and everything. I loved Simpsons, man.
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You know, Simpsons for life. We have a question.
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With I was about to say I was going to say like with the amount of pop culture
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that you're sort of consuming I kind of feel it's really good and especially
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in like a mentalist realm to be aware of like what's happening in pop culture
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whatever else is there anything with regards to pop culture that you feel influences your magic,
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um oh maybe like
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you know especially when you do stuff with older crowds
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and you're doing sort of something where you're saying i'll think
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of uh whether it's like like a a film something
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what stands out to you maybe it's a quote or a line and you know all these different
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things whether it's like from an indiana jones movie a star wars movie uh stuff
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like that like then like all gremlins like crazy little things like they all
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jump out so like and i loved all those movies and I watch all of those stuff.
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So yeah, like you can always use that for your advantage, especially it's like
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whether it's doing a prediction sort of reveal whenever I think,
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you know, using techniques, what we do is, and it makes me go, oh yeah, cool.
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I wouldn't have thought that. Oh my God. Yeah, I remember that.
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And then it actually like refreshes people to start thinking about it then strangely
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they're like, ah man, I haven't seen that in ages.
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Let me go watch that. If you're going to do like a deja vu type effect,
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you couldn't reference the movie Groundhog Day and expect a younger generation
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of people to understand what that is. And I'll put it in the group right now in the chat.
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Like, if you know what Groundhog Day isn't, because I hope that's a shorter
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list, be like, never heard of it.
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But like, how many people don't know that? And like I see Doug just going like,
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that's sacrilege that people don't know what that movie is.
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Doug's still just pissed people don't know what the Flintstones is. That's what's going on.
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Someone is asking, can we get your Twitch handle?
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Twitch i i'm gonna be honest i don't stream on
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twitch anymore just tiktok so but if if
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you want the twitch handle it's damien magician
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it's still the same all my social handles
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are the same damien magician okay you're streaming
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magic on the tiktoks um i
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stream gaming i stream gaming so i can't
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like my thing is like i i got a lot of time
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for those guys who love streaming magic on tiktok if
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they're doing it to people and stuff like but there's a
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lot of it i just find that's so draining dudes i want
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to film for people next to me i want to you know
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that's how i started magic was performing to real
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people i do social media content for
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the fact that you know we kind of got you right to sort
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of build these things and keep it going but like i love that
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if i knew people are going to be dead the whole time of gaming is so much
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easier to because you're just immersed in the
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game people come in they want to follow the story with you or
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they played it and they want to talk to you about the story too yeah you
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get i find people who come and go oh can i join your game and
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they start chatting to you and they're following your stream at the same time while
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they're gaming with you and it's so much easier yeah it's
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way more relatable especially if they play the game as well and they're watching
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you passively do something it's like they're hanging out with a mate rather
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than like yeah watching a watching a trick through a screen and your job is
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to directly perform to them that's interesting that's interesting.
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Okay, so back in the day, it sounds, it's so funny to say back in the day,
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but it feels like yesterday when I first watched your clip on Fool Us.
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That would have been, was that the first season?
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I feel like it was like one of the earliest memories of watching it.
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It was Ben Earle and Damien O'Brien.
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It was the original season. So what actually happened was there was a pilot episode before that,
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which originally had ben l john
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archer i can't remember everyone on
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it and that was so michael vincent it was a few people
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and um i was originally on the pilot episode
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and a trick i'd done i'll
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be sure i'm honest it was garbage and we
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was like okay look we're not going to use that broadcast i wasn't
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happy with what i'd done either and it
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was fine but whereas i at that point they kind of knew
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that it was going to go for a season after and there's like
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we want you to come back and do the season so then
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season one officially kicks off right now i
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go back in with something a bit better like a bit more screwed up
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as well understand what the situation is about
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and i remember like because obviously everyone auditions first with to make
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sure you know it's you're not going to perform so awful on there or what's someone
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else is already doing and i remember doing this thing for Angelo Carbone and
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he was like one of the consultants at the time.
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He's it was just like it just fooled him straight away and he was like yeah
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that's for like remember Mark Oberon in the background like that's fooled me
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and then yeah so it gets there but like when I look back at our performance
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I'm like I still can actually see very how inexperienced I was for TV,
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you know like i don't feel like when i look at that i'm like man
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i look so awkward like i feel like i was over projecting my voice to
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being i don't know like not as maybe more myself more relaxed out like how i
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am now like you know obviously we grow as performers and that was you know maybe
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16 years ago nearly now so yeah was that the first time that you had done television.
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Magic no i i had done
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like this very short thing but again
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it was a series on bbc northern ireland
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and it was loads of really great musicians myself
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dynamo there was pete laura london samuel hurst
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and the idea was it was called magic house party where
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we would go into these pupils house and we'll help create a party
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around them with a famous uh irish dj
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and we did magic with their things around their
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house right but that was fine because
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it was i was doing close up and i'm just in my
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element it didn't bother me a camera being there while i'm doing a
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close-up trick or even some like illusions sort
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of with stuff because i'm like this is fine this is normal but
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going on to pen and tell it was a different beast you knew
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half the magician sorry half the audience was going
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to be magicians watching this like coming into
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you've got two of the best magicians judging
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you and i was like oh my god
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like this is like you also don't know where camera
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angles are going to be like properly like you you forget a lot of stuff and
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it was like it was a real big one you know because it's went on our main one
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of our main channels in the uk itv so that was a big thing as well knowing that
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this is going out on prime time with millions watching in and out of ZSA.
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That's a great point. And for you, what was the after effect of being on such a watch show?
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In the uk i think the one of the greatest
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things was was learning like watching the pros
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like you know i i got to watch teller performed
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silverfish from like literally feet away
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and like the preparations i got to see a bit of stage and stuff was going into
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this and it was like it's just so inspiring and all that made me want to do
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was get better i think every experience you learn from right you take it in
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and you get better and better each time so for me obviously it was my,
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foot in the door for next projects and
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to use again then for when I'm pushing
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myself to brands and advertisements so I'd already had a couple of brand deals
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at that point with new era caps and Nike at the time so it was then okay cool
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I've just been on the show here from this I've obviously I've worn their brands.
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So now I can pitch that to the next brand.
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Look, on TV. We don't know when I'm going to be on TV again next week.
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Whatever that's going to be. I was like, why don't you hook me up here?
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I've got a few more eyes on me now.
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Let's do this and let's do that. And then I was very lucky that I was performing
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at a lot of events where celebrities were and stuff like that and media opportunities.
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And yeah, but it was a break to get a lot more eyes of people who was working in TV magic to come,
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and notice me you know working on
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projects you worked on you know shows like killer magic
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we had to create a lot of tricks yeah what is
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that experience like like what sort of constraints and
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time restraints do you have like how
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does it's there's so many questions for me surrounding that can we talk about
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that for a bit yeah 100 dude so killer magic that was that was one of the most
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fun projects i've ever done in my life i loved every bit of it you know we were
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we started down in London and we was on this project for about.
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Six seven months and we
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was very very fortunate our first episode which
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is should we call it the pilot episode or it came we
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had some great people who's in as our writers and our
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team we had steven lung and ian sharkey who are writers for derren brow and
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like consultants and creators you know so we've got the best and we had andy
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nyman come in and help we had our producing director was Anthony Owen who produced
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all of Darren Brown's stuff, Objective Productions.
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So it's like everyone you needed was there and they saw magic in such a special way.
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And then we took it up from the pilot from London up to Glasgow,
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which was their base for nearly five months there.
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And we would be in the office. So we was always working on five days a week.
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We'd be in the office from 9am on Monday morning and we'd
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be sitting there creating content with do mood board
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software being like right okay what things can we create and
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we'll be right down like let's think about money gaming
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or you know whether it's something to do shopping or anything
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and we're like thinking what can we do and so like you've
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got a bunch of magicians in the room now like you
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know ben hart is insane creative like
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and he's uh we're just bouncing ideas the christopher
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chris cox jazz we're all just coming up with these
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crazy outrageous ideas and then at that
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point that's when we also had our magic consultants come in with no
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core who's an incredible magic consultant himself
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and creator so we had so many things and it was just so cool watching this stuff
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come from a text to life you know like watching the art department lot build
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these props for us and then like we'd be like right okay the specs need to be
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like this we need to change this or building custom props.
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And even the film days, there was a couple of mine.
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Did not work at all when we're in rehearsals and we're
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like building the props we're like this is just gonna bomb
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this is terrible and on the
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day one of them is like i'll tell you which one it was uh one
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with the fruit machine where it was like it lands on the
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three oranges and then three oranges come out of a fruit machine instead of
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money right and we was
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like every time we rehearsed this it did
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not work like it was on the wrong dials it
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was like completely wrong we're right so the
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idea and i was not right the idea is if that happens just making
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it like you get angry you shake the slot machine and
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uh we've been like give me my money back and then the oranges will
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drop out and it worked it hit
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perfect the oranges came out and we
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could i could see everyone in back behind the camera
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it's going yes and like so when i'm
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dreaming going yes we won for it my reaction was genuine like it was genuine
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like i'm so freaking excited because this has worked so there was some great
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moments like that at the right time yeah it's always the way what was the overall
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concept of this show killer magic.
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So killer magic was each week you had five magicians competing against each
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other and you had to do a trick based on a theme, whether it was money or toys
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or, you know, food, stuff like that.
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And we would score each other out of 10 and whoever had the lowest score had
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to recreate a trick that either injured or killed magicians in the past.
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So we did things like bullet catch.
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We done Russian roulettes, buzz saws and all kinds of stuff like that.
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And it was actually like i used to say to the
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people like if they was lizards like gotta look at it in a good
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way you get to one you get more airtime you
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also get to create a pretty awesome illusion
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or trick and that's part of your show rule now the
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life that you're doing that so that's a cool thing like
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because one of them was got the other's like why do i
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keep losing why do i keep and i'm like don't worry
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like it's good it's just so yeah all right the trick didn't
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come off as great as you wanted because sometimes you know our reactions
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are like through the roof like and
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then other times they're like okay cool that was great
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yeah oh wow like it's like it's nice they're sort of happy but they're
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not like it's static screaming running away the
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magicians judged each other correct yeah yep
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we judged each other so our scores counted no one the producers was not involved
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to say like you have to give them this score that score no it was whatever we
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wanted to gifted so we we all got i think all of us got a bit of the up once
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was someone got a 10 was like.
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Really it was like because we we all felt like this would have to be like so so so special.
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To be a 10 of like this would have to be like it fooled every single magician
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none of us know what this is what have you done and also like the reactions
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had to be wild through the roof to get.
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And it was it was like it's like we all know how this is done like and all you
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think is the other the other three magicians who scored because like you know
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it's four scoring total right and we all gave it like similar things like it
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was a good trick we're like cool that's an eight like and there was a nine and
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there was another eight and it was like ten and it was like.
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Did they just say and we're like wow it was
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like some remember there was a really tough one with bending like a
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basically like an ice bar and he
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was in his boxers this crazy sleight of
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hand with an egg and like you know he's like
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this it's everyone else is like in those big jackets to
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stay warm and so the things he
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was pulling off that was mind-boggling i
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mean you guys know how hard it is to do magic in the cold horrible horrible
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we've got a viewer asking is that still available
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to stream anywhere to watch killer magic i
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would say try and hit up on youtube because it used to be on bbc iplayer in
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the uk but i think they took it down not long ago actually so uh hit up killer
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magic episodes i think i know i've got a full episode on one of my youtube channels yeah.
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Guys was there any near death experiences there
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did anyone almost die from doing killer magic
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so not one
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of the magicians but one of
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the people behind the scenes a little
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bit hurt from one of the illusions but one of our illusions as well was like
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it was the buzzsaw one i'm surprised that didn't kill anyone because like the
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barb was holding the buzzsaw was like bowing and like this thing was swinging
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right like that and there was no kill switch on this or anything oh no,
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we were like where so when we got this we're like this is not good we're just
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like we're terrified now yeah we were like very very very nervous that must
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have been the episode where you all got tens Scores.
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Yeah. I do not want to be under this thing. Yeah. Oh, my God.
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That was terrified, Cedar.
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There's got to be a weird idea trying to fool...
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Magicians because if if the goal is to fool magicians it's
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not necessarily a good trick like there's was
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it to fool them or was it just to present
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great i think it's it's too i feel
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like it was to present a great routine with
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something that you're not used to doing right so
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for like the food one i i made someone's sign
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card end up inside a battered piece
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of cod inside their box of fish and chips and you
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know so a classic trick of where usually a sign card
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ends up in a wallet or pocket or something like that but this
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is taking it to another level and reactions
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were like through the roof like the guy's screaming
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he like you know he literally lost his
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mind he was like yeah we could have
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made a show just from his reactions like he was
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going off about 25 minutes after the camera's cut like he's
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cooked so so i
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felt like it was that like if they're entertained as well and they're laughing
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they've enjoyed it i've done a good performance felt like that should always
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add to the points that we're at the end of the day you've got to treat us almost
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a bit like the people you're performing to as well like your spectators that
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we want to be just as entertained.
25:18
Were there any ideas that were left in the cutting room floor or that probably
25:21
didn't make it to even conception phase that you had like a great idea you really
25:26
wanted to do, but they went, no, that you're willing to share on the pod?
25:30
There was, there was a fair few, to be fair, because we was,
25:33
as I said, we was always in mobile.
25:35
So we're creating, there was like themes, which never happened, of course.
25:38
And one of the ones I remember
25:41
thinking about I would really have loved to have brought to light was this idea
25:45
that we was in a bar and someone pours a pint and beer's there and you talk
25:52
about the tap where it's like we see beer taps and they're frozen up right and
25:57
it's like the extra cold beer,
26:00
basically was going to touch the glass and the whole glass was going to freeze
26:04
and the entire beer was going to be like a solid block of ice like it could come out,
26:09
and another idea was to make the
26:12
beer just suddenly an empty glass so you see this beer completely
26:15
fill up like this glass and we figured out a method to do it so it was proper
26:20
so it came up properly with the head and everything like that it would have
26:24
cost an absolute fortune to make it work and so there was a lot where it was
26:29
like you know we were working with a tight enough budget as it was and i was just like.
26:34
Can't do this can't get that in and it's like okay it was like even if you look
26:40
at the slot machine i use it's it's a very old like it wasn't very like fresh
26:47
and new looking where it's like.
26:49
Today's like this looks like it's been in the pub since the
26:52
80s it was kind of that like look but
26:55
we made it look right and i think that's
26:58
the thing how you dress a lot of tricks up as well you know what let's do
27:01
a thought experiment for like the next three to five minutes
27:04
okay making magic the theme is using
27:07
the men's room go okay cool changing
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the sign where it says men changing it
27:14
into the same way it would be a joke and it'd say dinosaurs so the voice is
27:17
when you go yeah i would do no like tear no tear toilet paper where like you
27:25
wait for someone to get to the toilet next to you and you're in the other one
27:27
and you go like sorry man there's no toilet paper can you just tear me off some,
27:30
and he's trying to take it, but he can't tear it.
27:32
And then it's like, I can't tear it. And you're like, oh, okay, keep going.
27:36
And it's like, no, pull, pull. And then he always stopped for a sec and then
27:39
go, just when you think in your mind, tear. And then it tears.
27:42
Nice you know what i mean and so like you make
27:45
this gimmicked tear no tear sort of toilet paper i think
27:47
that would be a pretty fun idea i got one you
27:50
do professor cheers comedy rope trick with
27:53
toilet paper so you're walking out of the bathroom piece of toilet paper hanging
27:58
out of your leg you start pulling it it comes all the way out it hangs up on
28:01
the arm it comes out of the arm then it's on the other arm and then the boxers
28:06
come out toilet paper instead of rope what about like
28:12
a levitation where everyone, your back is to the guys in the toilet,
28:17
but you're standing up at the trough.
28:20
You're peeing and then you start meditating off the ground while you're peeing. That's a banger.
28:26
Oh, man. I'll give some looks.
28:30
Okay, so you go to the men's room and there's a line and then a guy dressed
28:34
like Jesus walks in and he's like, oh, is it busy?
28:38
And he's like, oh. And then he
28:39
sees an empty wine glass. So he just cowers over. He's moving to a wine.
28:44
Oh, no.
28:47
Jesus.
28:49
Oh, that would be great. That would be great.
28:53
I love all these funny ideas, but I'm curious of what's actually happened at
28:59
some of our events. So I think, Nick, I think we should roll into...
29:03
A little gig story segment let's do it so gig
29:07
stories is a section of the show we talk about little magic moments either
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while working being on telly or perhaps our day-to-day lives
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and we'll share our stories starting with our very fine
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guest mr damien okay so you're
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like you want the dirt right okay yeah um we
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want it so i currently work
29:27
at like do we have a show in london called the
29:30
magician's table it's an immersive magic experience
29:33
right so people come in they have a few drinks down
29:37
at the bar first and see some magic downstairs before the
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show begins then they come up we have like 10
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tables which seat 10 people or 12 people
29:45
i can't remember and it's basically supposed to be a
29:48
memorial for a famous magician called dita rotterberg who has passed away and
29:53
it's hosted by his wife who's a widow right and uh so the show goes on and we're
29:58
performing in memory of detail and so each table will see five magicians throughout the night okay and,
30:06
every now and then of course we're going to get magicians in our audience who'd
30:10
love to be there they come watch sometimes they do that typical magician thing
30:14
where like instead of like you know having fun they just sit there like this
30:19
and uh are very awkward for the table and stuff,
30:23
this particular guy he was just doing this after every trick it was to his partner.
30:29
So he was like okay and the first magician who went to the table said.
30:34
If you want to wait till I'm gone to explain the tricks that'd be great so he
30:38
just sort of told him like in a friendly way,
30:40
then i i've gone over to their table next similar thing
30:44
i feel like i sort of tucked him up with one of the things
30:47
i've done like near the end i was like yeah you didn't catch that and
30:50
then i've got backstage and the curtains between
30:53
the backstage and their table you could hear everything and
30:56
then suddenly he's explaining stuff to the table i'm like really you
30:59
dirtbag and during the show there's
31:02
a bit where it's almost like a break where they have to read a
31:05
letter that's on their table every table has it and that's
31:08
one of the magicians of our team has walked out he's suddenly
31:12
performing the vanishing bird cadence cage illusion
31:15
well what but he brought
31:19
it with him he brought in a vanishing bird cage illusion right we're like this
31:25
is not like some simple setup like you know your magician you know how extremely
31:31
complex that is and it's like why would you just perform that Another magician's show.
31:37
That's like any one of us turning up to David Blaine's thing and suddenly performing
31:43
in the middle of the theater, right?
31:45
We're like, really? And he didn't do it once. He'd done it four times.
31:52
And we're like, well, and I couldn't hold it in.
31:55
And at the end of the show, I went up to the table and I was like,
31:58
so did you enjoy the magic, what you got to see at the tables,
32:02
or did you enjoy the exposure?
32:04
And like one of the guys who's so polite he was
32:07
like oh no we preferred the magic you know that was a lot
32:10
better and we just couldn't get over this guy because
32:13
like we told him sort of at first i i seated the
32:16
guy and i was like oh you're going to play in card pin badge you know and i'm
32:21
like okay straight magician could tell it a mile away and i was like oh nice
32:24
to meet you man we hope you enjoy the show now most magicians are great when
32:28
they come to the show they're just like they cheer they support like you know
32:32
and it's like you know this ain't the way to.
32:36
Get good reputation in the industry right it's
32:39
like this is the worst like and
32:42
we thought what did he think he was doing did you think he
32:45
was going to come down and audition and be like we're going to go that vanishing
32:48
bird case trick man yeah you've got to be part of our show okay yeah
32:52
like what was going on in his head like by him
32:55
explaining how the tricks worked did he
32:59
think that that meant people thought oh he's so smart and he's he's above this
33:05
show could you describe him was he an elderly man was he senile no dude he was
33:12
young as i would say he was mid to late 20s,
33:16
like so it's not like the sort
33:19
of thing what he done is what you expect a 12 year
33:22
kid to do at a party come running up because they've learned
33:25
a trick right and they're just super excited to like show it off and well we
33:31
just couldn't believe it from now on jack rhodes you are banned from all magicians
33:36
tables jack rose is fine we like jack rose we love jack rose.
33:45
Just kidding but that's yeah that's wild you know
33:47
what because i i bet this was there also a point where you
33:51
were like should i just go out there and tell them how the
33:54
bird the vanishing cage works just so he feels that feeling or no I just to
33:59
me it's like you know then you'll see you're no good as him right and I'm just
34:03
like you know because it's a beautiful illusion but I'm like at what point does
34:08
like the table suddenly think he wasn't sitting there in a bird cage with you before,
34:12
And why you got a birdcage on you for the first year in one,
34:17
like who walks around with an empty birdcage?
34:20
Like it makes no sense.
34:23
Yeah. It's just like, there's nothing there. It's not an impromptu effect. It's not a walk around.
34:29
And also it's not justified for people to just see you walking around with a birdcage.
34:36
Yeah. And what was funny after the show, I've come out, I've gone out,
34:41
I've left building quickly.
34:42
And there's just like a shot opposite and i was like right let me grab myself
34:45
some water and uh and bits to head backstage because we do like a double show
34:50
each time so we have two shows,
34:53
and i've walked past and i've seen him and i was about to
34:56
approach and be like hey look man i'm gonna give you a little bit of just friendly
35:00
advice because it's and he was doing it so somewhat like another big group out
35:05
there who just came in watch the show another do you know like he's a lost cause
35:08
I ain't offering I'm just like I'm walking off I'm like I can't do it but it's wild,
35:14
sometimes you gotta put those ones behind you man that happens yeah we yeah.
35:19
My residency happened the same sort of thing this guy rocked up and I remember
35:23
because he was I was performing it's like oh you got another magician working
35:26
on the other side of the venue and I was like,
35:29
who like i know everyone in this and i see
35:31
this cat i don't know this guy right and i
35:34
know everyone in this town like straight up because they typically
35:37
work for me and so i'm looking i'm like that's just some cat like doing his
35:41
thing and he was he went out that day he was like i'm doing magic today and
35:49
he was like i'm gonna wear my my fedora hat it's gonna have the cards in it
35:54
i'm going to wear my full suit,
35:56
even though it's 42 degrees outside,
35:59
probably like 98 Fahrenheit.
36:01
He's like, I'm doing it. And like, he was just, he's doing his magic.
36:05
He's showing people stuff.
36:06
He's sweating. He's there with his kid and his partner. And it's like,
36:10
just all hyper autistic behavior.
36:13
And I was like, I'm going to let him, let him be and just do a thing.
36:18
And then I go over to the table and I say, hello.
36:19
And he was like, and I started doing my stuff because I'm not a magician.
36:23
And I go, yeah, I know you're not.
36:25
And he was like yeah i'm not and i go i know you're not well you know if you if you were,
36:31
one you would know who i am two you would
36:34
know better than to be performing in another man's realm
36:36
but he's paid to be here so i'm
36:40
totally aware you're not a magician and it was
36:43
a nice interaction well very polite but then his son fired up
36:46
with his like crazy level of
36:49
tism and to the point where like everything was grabbing
36:52
me and like his wife's trying to literally hold this eight-year-old back
36:55
and i'm like let him he was one of my cards i want
36:58
them because mine were blue and his dads were red and i'm like take him take
37:01
him take him just calm the kid down like there's people here eating and stuff
37:04
so it's gonna happen and you try to accommodate and make sure they have more
37:08
time without making them feel ostracized because they are a guest in your venue
37:11
at the end of the day but like in the same breath have some freaking decorum people.
37:17
I agree i agree yes yeah
37:22
crazy my only um notable gig story from last week was performing on a on a yacht
37:28
like a yacht party and uh it's always an interesting thing and i'm curious of
37:34
your thoughts damien when you
37:35
get booked for a gig that only has say 40 people but you're on a yacht so,
37:41
you're stuck on there for four hours you know there aren't actually any hidden
37:46
spaces really to to not be seen so you're kind of the magician the whole time
37:52
with nowhere to kind of hide.
37:54
But what I will say is this audience was very fun they like they all enjoyed
38:00
their own partying so there was like a mini dance floor on the main deck that
38:04
they would mainly be at and I would just sort of,
38:08
come in and out between the top deck and the bottom deck and but i
38:10
definitely in advance took like all the
38:13
things i would enjoy performing that can't blow away and i
38:17
would just like pick one prop like spend
38:20
that that 30 minutes showing everyone that
38:23
prop if they wanted to see it like a ruby skew for example then i
38:26
put it away then i bring out like my blank double blank
38:29
cards and i do like some ambitious with signing the card
38:32
and stuff just that and then i'd come back
38:35
and now it's like rubber band time and it was like a very
38:38
unusual way to perform yeah
38:42
um but it was a fun exercise but how long how long was the trip it was four
38:48
hours four hours but surprisingly the time did go quick and the first you know
38:54
15 minutes in the last 15 minutes is like them leaving the dock or just getting
38:58
to the dock so you're not doing anything,
39:00
but but it certainly was a thing where i had i couldn't just do like my normal
39:04
three sets right to everyone i was like this is gonna require some more thoughts on performing but also.
39:13
I'm limited a little bit because i'm on an unsteady vessel and lots of wind and you know,
39:20
i'm just rocking a a a vest because i can't
39:23
really wear a jacket on this yacht where it's going to be stinking
39:26
hot otherwise but um yeah
39:30
is that a situation you had to
39:32
be put in before do they do you guys have yacht parties in
39:35
the uk or strangely we have like obviously we have
39:38
these things we have river boats which go up and down the thames and
39:41
they're huge and people rent them out all
39:44
the time for parties and i think we actually
39:47
have uber boats as well now in the uk we'll
39:50
go up and down to thames yes and but like
39:53
these um like fancy boats which people host their
39:56
parties on similar situation right i'll be booked for
39:59
two hour gig but you're stuck there
40:02
for four hours because i sometimes be
40:05
longer because it's like all right we're docking at midnight and it's
40:07
like and they want you on there at like quarter
40:10
to seven okay five hours and
40:14
these stairs sometimes it's like a lower little escape bit you can go and hide
40:18
you can have some food you can rest for a bit come back up but it's agreed it's
40:23
like once you've gone around this boat you've done magic for everyone you're
40:26
like don't want to make it feel like overkill where it's like this is too much,
40:32
and and one of the things that i've started doing when i do this now i just
40:36
sort of go up to where the captain is to a bit of magic for them and i chill
40:40
and chat with the captain and the crew.
40:43
And it sort of like gets you out of the way and you start talking to them about
40:46
normal things and it allows you to switch off for a little bit,
40:49
maybe like desensitize or whatever and then maybe go back down going,
40:52
you know what, let me try saying kills now. Now I've like got away from that,
40:56
party for a bit i can go back down and yeah
40:59
but like to me it's like if i'm sort of chilling thankfully i've
41:03
never been on a situation where it's just i'm the only performer there's always
41:06
been something like a caricature or maybe some
41:09
band members are playing as well and they
41:12
obviously take breaks and we kind of sort of try and
41:15
put our stuff into one little corner and we
41:18
will just chat there and we sort of hide there together people
41:21
usually are quite polite and they're like okay let them
41:24
do that or if they want to see one more they'll be like hey like my.
41:27
Friend didn't get to see something earlier because maybe there was that on
41:30
this end or there was upstairs it's like and yeah
41:33
i will do that but yes like you
41:36
i've dragged out some routines for so
41:39
long like and i'm like i will literally milk
41:43
it and then i will let them do ask all the questions so
41:46
how did you get into magic so what made you want to be a magician and
41:49
okay i'm like well let me tell you my life store on karen uh and
41:53
i i will uh milk it like that as
41:56
well it took it some of the time so i'm saying the
41:59
thing is luckily like you never know sometimes
42:01
that's like the person who's hired you as well so like you have
42:04
that full interaction where you're really giving them your time and like talking the
42:07
way to them they're like that's great i had a great conversation with the
42:10
magician of why it's imagine but look
42:13
people like that though it's part of the gig in my
42:16
opinion is to spend some time you know socializing with
42:19
the clients of course where there's also that thing
42:22
right as they say sometimes of there's the under charge and
42:25
over deliver so it's like you give them more of
42:28
yourself each time where they're gonna be like that was amazing value
42:32
for money let's get that guy again let's get
42:35
them in again because they're gonna be fantastic value
42:39
everyone loved them really friendly really good stayed
42:42
longer they weren't watching the clock thinking all right okay boom off like
42:45
soon as the dotcom like you're throwing like women and children over ball so
42:48
you can get off the phone first so you know that's i've been having flashbacks.
42:53
During this conversation on my worst gig ever i've told this story before but.
42:57
I was on a riverboat on christmas eve.
43:01
There are like a three-hour float up the Mississippi River.
43:06
They do bonfires to attract Santa Claus. It's lovely.
43:10
It's lovely until you go back to the dock where you left, and the boat is unable
43:15
to dock there where all of the cars are.
43:19
And it's 11 p.m. on Christmas Eve. And you've already done magic for the whole boat.
43:24
And they inform you it's going to be two to three hours before we get to the
43:28
next spot where buses will meet us.
43:32
Oh, so I very much was in that conversation mode for a couple of hours.
43:36
And I wish I had that captain's trick.
43:38
You just said back then I sure would have gone to hang out in the captain's room.
43:44
Oh, honestly, it like that works so well. Like when you realize there's actually
43:48
quite a few bits of career, they'd like.
43:50
Get it with them. And I was just like, oh, do you need this?
43:53
Jordan this? Jordan this? Oh, that'd be very nice. Thank you very much.
43:56
I'd like to complimentize about it. Want to drive the boat? Yes,
43:59
I do. That'd be fantastic.
44:01
Yeah yeah so it's it's really cool yeah
44:04
if i could share a couple of stories from from like that realm
44:07
as well like it's so we do like two laps
44:10
of the bay here in melbourne we call them
44:13
booze cruisers you get on a boat you get pissed so booze cruisers we have a
44:17
couple of different mobs to do it and yeah it's so they'll either do like one
44:21
lap and then it's like we're going to kick you off and then we're going to go
44:23
back out and do another lap and come back and that's pretty good that's like
44:25
a two-hour kind of experience but more times than not i get ready to say goodbye,
44:30
And they're like, do you want to stay?
44:32
And I go, I got to invoice you though. They're like, yeah, that's fine.
44:35
I go back and just tell the captain, I'm like, I'm staying on bro,
44:37
like to the bitter end. Let's just keep going.
44:39
And there's been other times where they can dock at another location because
44:43
sometimes they start at one spot, do a couple of laps, then stop at another
44:47
point, then go to that restaurant. So...
44:51
That can logistically be a bit of a pain in the butt. But thankfully,
44:55
I typically ride an electric skateboard to events like this,
44:58
especially if it's good weather.
44:59
So I just skate up to the gig on board, put my board in like with,
45:04
I was going to call it a cockpit, but that's called a wheelhouse. Yep.
45:08
Into there, do all my shtick. And then I just skate home along the river. Like it's so good.
45:14
Think about logistics when you're doing gigs like this, kids. It's a pain.
45:18
Yeah. Yeah, because what you just said there about the dock,
45:20
we'd have the same thing, like we'll leave one dock and sometimes it stops at
45:25
a completely different end.
45:26
So like of like the Thames, you're like, that is like nowhere near that.
45:30
But obviously, thankfully with London, we have the underground,
45:32
right? So it's like there's always a chief station like within,
45:35
you know, a five minute walk, thankfully.
45:38
But it is, you're 100% right. you have to take all that into consideration of
45:43
like suddenly like if that adds a lot more time on you getting home,
45:48
you've got to really read that fine print because they throw that at you like
45:52
last minute blow oh by the way we're docked down here,
45:56
what do you mean you're not going back to where like we started i planned my
46:00
journey i mean for real it's christmas eve and my car is over there,
46:07
it's already 11 and i've got three kids you know was they like krampus must have him.
46:18
We've only got a short time left with damien and we can't leave
46:21
without not touching on one of the big projects that
46:24
you've done which is britain's got talent britain i
46:28
can't even hang on i gotta do that better britain's got
46:33
talent yeah there we go you made
46:36
it to the finals that's like an insane accolade
46:39
so i guess so much to unpack there
46:42
but like what was your thoughts or like your idea
46:45
going into that show and well
46:49
thing is i i'd been headhunted for nearly five
46:52
years they've been trying to get me on there and i was like no no
46:55
nothing felt right didn't feel right okay that's interesting and a
46:59
year before i was supposed to do it no two years
47:02
ago before i did i was going to potentially do it i actually pulled out due
47:06
to mental health reasons i was like right not right i need to make sure i look
47:10
after me first did that and then i went back in and was like right i'm going
47:13
to prove to myself i'm going to do this and like worked as my ideas with Russ
47:18
Stevens and we come up with this idea,
47:21
which was, was the metal phone and it had never been seen by anyone before.
47:25
It just hadn't even been released yet when I did it, which was fantastic.
47:29
And we added to it with the engraved number on it because I was like,
47:32
right, it's not just a metal phone. How do we layer this?
47:35
And at the end of the day, it was like, when you realize you do BGT or AGT or
47:39
any of those sort of things, really the show is about those four judges.
47:44
Make it about them, feed their ego. So that's why we made it that,
47:47
right, this is going to have Simon's day of birth.
47:49
The main guy, main character, he's going to get to keep this insane souvenir.
47:55
Like, you know, hopefully our thing was, our plan was to go,
48:00
by the way, this is a gift, you can keep this.
48:01
And so we've done that and go, Simon, this is for you.
48:05
Like a policymaker, when he comes after me, he's like, can I keep this?
48:08
I'm like, yeah, that's yours.
48:10
Like, there's nothing to hide there. that is just a piece of
48:13
metal with your date of birth engraved on it and he
48:15
generally kept it so but our plan was
48:18
to always make sure i was being my authentic self
48:21
being me russ was very very good helping me
48:24
create stuff that fit to my style my my approach
48:28
and he really gets
48:31
the show obviously he understands he has so many different magicians
48:35
on there and we decided
48:39
so once i was through to the semi-finals we
48:42
was like okay how do we top that audition
48:45
because that was nuts we had like you know a huge
48:49
sort of thing and now things are very different we've got no audience
48:52
we're virtual because it was in the pandemic so
48:56
we was like let's do what no one's done before let's pick
49:00
up exactly where we left off and we
49:03
continued the story with the metal phone so it's
49:06
like I brought it straight back out it was like six months ago when you saw
49:09
me here I did this and I've done this using things special moments so again
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we're going to play with this and then we brought different memories from people
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of different times and stuff what meant to them now we turn the phone back into a real phone.
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Let's say six months ago this is how i left my phone and now
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it's with the date of what one of the judges said amanda it's
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got the screensaver is a wallpaper of a country alicia
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the singer was thinking of there's a text message from a
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celebrity who david welliams has wanted and it's
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like it's got the message on what he's thinking like what the
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hell be like look and then we upped it again we layered
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it each time it was layered so it was like i look you're probably thinking maybe
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this is technology maybe this is something special here then we
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do obviously the ultimate prediction system so pull
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out the piece of paper we unfold it now it's all hammering it's
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like what the hell it's got everything and then
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the final bit there's just an easel there and we turn it over and that's
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got the word the last judge had been thinking of
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and it just frightened because it
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was each time and even then i was like oh that's
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not it and i was like and then i turned the easel and they're like what do
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you mean that's not it like because that's something with the phone as well
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didn't go i'd done that assignment when it was just their numbers they created
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was like but that's not it so the audience is like what and x everyone thinks
50:27
just done there and you just say bomb bomb bomb this and it's just that extra
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like whoa like sort of moment so.
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And even in the final even i didn't do anything with
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that particular phone i still referenced it i pulled out a box because i was
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talking about my memories my time on bgc and i pulled out i was like the metal
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phone you'll remember and I sort of put it back in the box and then we still
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done a trick with a phone so I was like I'm not going to change up now as Sully do I'm not going to,
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well i don't know we're like a big grand illusion or
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some sort of uh water tank escape it
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would make no sense for me and i
51:07
was very smart way i made sure i plugged my instagram on there as
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well because it was like we're in a pandemic let's plug
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my instagram to get some brand work because everyone's going to
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want to use that so i plug i
51:19
had to fight like a lot to get that
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in this world because i was like we don't really want to do this we don't like advertising
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different things and that's why like when you
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see it i say like you have social
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media open it up like i physically wasn't allowed
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to say the words instagram because the tv rights so
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so that's why it's like so the judges
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like they're they're prepared for that bit they get told it's like
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hey look he's gonna say do you have social media what you
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need is by his instagram we're not allowed he's not allowed to say it because of
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this so they get so they don't know nothing about the trick they just
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know he's gonna say that so my
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phone went mental from that
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moment when i was here i mentioned it and there's a piece of
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her card inside on the phone on my instagram grid
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from weeks ago and then obviously i changed her phone.
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Into a bunch of photographs and her phone
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ends up back in the box on top of the stage with anton deck inside
52:12
a hundred foot of rope and yeah it
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was again but what the best thing i can tell
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you one of the funniest things from bgt was every time
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i done my rehearsals where it was
52:24
auditions semi-final and final they all went horrible that i knew they couldn't
52:29
have gone any worse like really bad was like oh my god this looks terrible this
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ain't great this ain't great like my semi-final performance actually we the
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routine changed 24 hours before it,
52:43
before we performed it no kidding so this seems like a theme damien i'm i'm sensing a theme here.
52:50
Yeah i have terrible like i figured
52:53
rehearsals and then i smash it out of heart when it comes i think
52:55
maybe i need that adrenaline wow we
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had a question did did you freak when
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her phone dropped off the stage i'm guessing that is
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that something that happened that no one knew happened or what tell
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us that here's the thing i said i told them in rehearsals i was like tell us
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to put a hand over the glass like this and we'll pull it through with thread
53:20
the rope through the fingers right so that way with the phone hits it's just
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going to bounce up the hand and land back in the big glass,
53:27
it was like we don't like that because that's covering the
53:30
inside of the glass we really want to see that rope like unraveling the
53:33
phone i'm like it's a glass you can see
53:36
for it like like go to a side shot
53:39
and what happens the phone drops
53:42
out and i just had to play it cool and like yeah just pick it
53:44
up i was like i don't care if your phone screen smashed right now we've got
53:48
to play this cool and i went backstage panicking i was like please don't tell
53:52
me i broke one of the judge's phones i spoke to she's like oh it's fine i don't
53:56
care it's great like that was bloody mental how did you do that and i was like
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i can't tell you so my heart was like.
54:04
Yeah I mean at the end of the day I'm sure she's not worried about replacing a phone you know like,
54:12
that's probably like you know yeah new shoes today and a new phone also I'm
54:18
mad from what happened on that phone so obviously like everything what I touched
54:22
they had to touch they had to like sort of use sort of sanitizer right so it's like,
54:27
they sort of quickly sanitize their hand so when I've told her to rip the card I'll see you next time.
54:32
She sprayed the corn of the card with sanitizer before she handed it at me.
54:36
And I'm putting this corn in my mouth. That wasn't part of it.
54:38
And I was like, oh, this is going to be gross.
54:40
And so I'm now putting this corn of the card in my mouth. And I'm like, this is gross.
54:45
You know, it ain't fun like when you do your routines, right?
54:48
Where you chew a piece of card. Anyway, it tastes awful.
54:52
Add some like pure 100% alcohol sanitizer on that.
54:57
Oh, yeah, it tastes good. That's not good. So people are going to have a chance
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to potentially learn from you coming up soon, Damien, right?
55:07
Is that something you can tease?
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Yeah, so I'm doing my first ever lecture at the biggest magic convention in
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the world, which is Blackpool Magic Convention 2026.
55:19
I'll be doing two lectures throughout the four days.
55:23
And I'll also be performing in the international close-up gala show.
55:28
Which I'm very excited about.
55:30
We're working on the routine really hard at the moment i've got
55:33
something very fun my idea was not getting very similar
55:36
to like kilometer i'm not going in there to fool the world i'm
55:39
going in there to make sure everyone has fun and enjoys
55:42
it but the lecture i think so i have three
55:45
brand new routines which one i think will sell out immediately oh let's go it's
55:55
insane real insane and off stream I'll show you guys you can have a preview but with I.
56:05
The lecture as well i'll also be talking to people how
56:08
to get those brand deals how how i
56:11
went about getting collaborations with nike new
56:14
era to apple and all different
56:17
kinds of brands coca-cola i've worked with what what's the
56:20
way how do you approach that what's going on and also a bit of
56:23
insight into tv magic and how would you
56:25
prepare for that and what are you going to do so that's like
56:29
all the gold stuff that that yeah no one's taught anywhere
56:32
right and yeah we just had sonya
56:35
benito on a few weeks back and it seems like my bestie
56:39
yeah i mean it makes sense like you're
56:42
both repping all the brand deals you know like if you
56:44
like a brand you found a way to work with them and so that's sure
56:48
and it's obviously no accident that you both do that if you both spend time
56:52
together and share these these ideas that that's amazing yeah she's honestly
56:56
one of the most creative magicians i've ever met in my life she's ridiculous
57:01
like honestly like what some people have seen like.
57:06
Is nothing like as she shows
57:09
me some bits and i'm like what i know is that she ain't even really scratched
57:13
the surface with that and i'm like this is wild like she's so crazy good and
57:19
i'm like so i go to her a lot when i'm like working on projects i'm like want
57:24
you to help me do this want you to be my consultant on this i want you to do that she's great
57:28
clip it that just the the 2026 sonia promo reels yeah i know right.
57:36
That's amazing and and last but not least the magician's table we talked about
57:40
it a little bit but that's where people can come and see you at the moment that's
57:45
where you're yeah and this is where i'm regularly performing and it's what i
57:49
love about this it was for so long
57:52
people could only really see me if they booked me for a private event,
57:55
whether it was a pro wedding or something like that. Right.
58:00
And because most of the time it was like.
58:02
There wasn't anything like that it's like i wasn't really doing stage
58:05
routines where i was renting out venues and i was going okay
58:08
cool come check me out here at maybe
58:11
a fringe festival or something like
58:14
that i wasn't doing that so then for me to suddenly
58:17
go get this opportunity with the magician's table
58:20
it's like oh you can come down we're
58:23
gonna be here a long time come check us out like you can see me at the fraction
58:28
of a cost of whatever it would be if you booked me you get a great night out
58:32
you get to see five different magicians amazing cocktails and it's an amazing
58:38
amazing venue as well it's so so like,
58:43
insanely cool like you walk in there you're like this is nuts like it just feels
58:49
it's cheesy to say but it feels magical right you walk in there you're like
58:52
this is really cool right for those listening so that to go check that out if
58:58
you're in the uk and maybe all spread around the world.
59:02
Also in america now we launched in charlotte this
59:06
weekend so magicianstablelive.com is
59:11
currently what's uh showing up magicians table live.com you
59:15
can see damien on the lineup of great lineup
59:18
of performers here this is this is it yeah we
59:21
have we have some amazing amazing performers sonja's
59:25
also on that lineup a couple of others like yolin who's like you know one of
59:31
the best carbon players going like that dude is like i love yolin he's such
59:37
a nice person as well dan ho So Nick Stein is insane.
59:42
Like his character, the crooked crew here is brilliant.
59:47
And of course we have Ian Sharkey, the guy who wrote it all.
59:50
And he is the mastermind again behind a lot of the Darren Brown stuff.
59:56
But we've had Darren Brown down as well. He loved it. Darren loved the show.
59:59
So yeah, we've had people like that down, which is to us is such a great,
1:00:04
you know, to have someone like that give their self-approval.
1:00:07
It's very high praise. Very high praise. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:10
It's nice when you've got that. It sounds like you're in great company over
1:00:14
there. Like, you're the right people and you just...
1:00:18
Doing what you love getting these brand deals and you have time
1:00:21
for gaming i mean this is incredible stuff this
1:00:24
is groundbreaking stuff damien this time has flown by
1:00:27
so please please come on again because i feel like we've we've only really scratched
1:00:32
the like you know the big things people have seen you do but i know there's
1:00:35
so much under there that we can break down and advice and but go see go see
1:00:40
and perform at the magician's table go watch his lecture for our for our uk
1:00:45
audience listening that are going to be heading to Blackpool.
1:00:47
But look, we're going to end our episode in the way that we always do,
1:00:51
which is by giving our guest the final word.
1:00:55
Watching. The final word for me will be just to always, always pursue your dreams. Go for it.
1:01:04
Don't let anyone tell you you can't do something. If you're passionate about something, go for it.
1:01:09
Practice, practice, practice. If something goes wrong, learn
1:01:12
from those mistakes and it will help you
1:01:15
become a better performer do not let it deter you and uh
1:01:19
yeah i really appreciate if any of you ever need any help
1:01:21
ever like just some advice or anything you can
1:01:24
always just drop me a message on instagram at damian magician
1:01:27
or facebook any of those places and i'll do everything i can to help you peace
1:01:33
thanks for listening it's time for us to disappear now disappear now but we'll
1:01:42
see you again on the next episode of the magic guys.