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VIDEO: DEADBEAT DAD CARRIES LIMP BODY AFTER FORCING SON, 6, TO RUN TREADMILL, BOY DIES · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace caught on video the Sick Moment.
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  Speaker 1: A deadbeat dad is caught carrying the limp body of
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  Speaker 1: his son, Cory, just six, into urgent care. This after
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  Speaker 1: physically forcing Corey to run full speed on a treadmill
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  Speaker 1: because the boy was quote too fat.
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  Speaker 2: Six year old Corey is now dead tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Why did daddy go on the run and hide out
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  Speaker 1: in a Tennessee motel while his defense lawyer claims Daddy
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Corey's death from chronic abuse
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  Speaker 1: and bruising to the heart. We want justice. Good evening,
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  Speaker 1: a Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Cory was in Chris's arms. His arms were over Chris's shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: His legs were dangling. His arms did not looked like
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  Speaker 3: they had much movement to them. His legs did not
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  Speaker 3: look like they had much moving to him. His head
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  Speaker 3: was rested on Chris's shoulder. His head was difficult, his
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  Speaker 3: face was difficult to visualize. So when I first approached them,
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  Speaker 3: I knew that something was concerning, but I couldn't see
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  Speaker 3: everything I needed to see, so I was depending on
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  Speaker 3: Chris to convey a sense of urgency or unwellness that
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  Speaker 3: I did not get from him at first. It was
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  Speaker 3: more of a clinical description.
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  Speaker 1: You are hearing William Doyle, a nurse practitioner at Southern
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  Speaker 1: Ocean Urgent Care, and when you hear a professional space
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  Speaker 1: the way, it just doesn't even make sense. He says,
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  Speaker 1: his face was difficult to visualize. I think what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say is the little boy was near death
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  Speaker 1: and he couldn't even hold his head up. That's why
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  Speaker 1: his face is difficult to visualize.
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  Speaker 2: And as a nurse.
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  Speaker 1: Practitioner, says Chris, I believe he is referring to the
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  Speaker 1: bio dad Christopher gregor the deadbeat dad that didn't seem
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  Speaker 1: upset and wouldn't really articulate what had happened.
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  Speaker 2: Gee, I wonder.
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  Speaker 1: Why in the last hours in court the chilling texts
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  Speaker 1: are revealed and this tastes like dirt in my mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Where the father writes, quote, he needs to toughen up
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  Speaker 1: talking about the six year old little boy. He says
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  Speaker 1: this after making his son Corey run the treadmill he dies.
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  Speaker 1: He quote needs to toughen up again. Thank you everyone
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. I know evidence is sometimes very hard
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  Speaker 1: to look at, but a jury is being asked to
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  Speaker 1: render a true verdict. Guys take a listen to Sidney
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  Speaker 1: Sumner crime Online.
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  Speaker 4: Brianna Mitchello is supposed to drop Corey off to his father.
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  Speaker 4: Gregor asks her to bring Corey to the fitness center
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  Speaker 4: of his apartment complex. Surveillance video inside the gym shows
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  Speaker 4: Corey running on a treadmill while Gregor turns up the
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  Speaker 4: speed and incline of the machine until the six year
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  Speaker 4: old can't keep up and falls off. Gregor lifts the
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  Speaker 4: boy off the ground by his shirt, holding Corey over
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  Speaker 4: the running treadmill. Corey's feet slid out from under him
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  Speaker 4: several times as he tries to get his footing, and
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  Speaker 4: Gregor appears to bite Corey on the back of the head.
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  Speaker 4: Corey eventually starts running again and falls from the treadmill
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  Speaker 4: five more times. Through tears, Corey tells the doctor about
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  Speaker 4: the treadmill incident and says Gregor forced him to because
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  Speaker 4: he was too fat. The doctor notes fourteen bruises or
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  Speaker 4: scrapes on Corey's body, but the rest of his tests
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  Speaker 4: come back normal. Mitchello's request for emergency custody is denied,
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  Speaker 4: and she returns Corey to Gregor.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, when I hear the reporter describing all
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  Speaker 1: the bruises on Corey's little body, and I watched Corey
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  Speaker 1: so valiantly trying to keep running every time his father
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  Speaker 1: throws him back on the treadmill, even holding him down,
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  Speaker 1: and you can see him forcefully biting him. But this
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  Speaker 1: is what the defense attorney has to say.
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  Speaker 2: You got to hear this. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to see Christener.
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  Speaker 6: Go over in that Treville and speed it up, and
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  Speaker 6: you're going to see Corey.
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  Speaker 5: Fall, and you're going to see him pick that boy
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  Speaker 5: up six times, and six times put him back on
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  Speaker 5: the treadmill.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm gonna tell you right now, you're not gonna
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  Speaker 7: like him, And I don't care if you like him.
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  Speaker 7: When you see that video, you're gonna be horrified. You're
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  Speaker 7: gonna be mortified. But I'm telling you right now.
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  Speaker 6: That the evidence you're going to see of Coury's death
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  Speaker 6: had absolutely nothing to do with that treadmill.
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  Speaker 1: With me, it all start paneling, including Jim Murdott from
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  Speaker 1: News twelve New Jersey Reporter, and if you want more
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  Speaker 1: on the trial, go to News twelve New Jersey News
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  Speaker 1: twelve in New York.
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  Speaker 2: Jim hold on, just a moment, doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, you gotta get my head straight, Doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: round psycho analyst joining us at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, did you hear what the defense attorney just said?
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  Speaker 2: What am I supposed to believe him? Or my lion eyes?
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  Speaker 2: How the hey is he's saying?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, look over here, not over here at the video,
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  Speaker 1: don't look at the autopsy report.
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  Speaker 2: Look at me what I'm saying in court? What does
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  Speaker 2: he think they just fell off the turnip truck? That
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  Speaker 2: the jury is stupid? Nancy.
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  Speaker 8: He's manipulating the jurors. Also, now we have two men
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  Speaker 8: abusing power. Deadbeat Dad abused power by using his child
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  Speaker 8: as a punching bag. Never mind he was also only
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  Speaker 8: involved with the child in the last year of his life,
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  Speaker 8: wanting to gain control over the child in order to
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  Speaker 8: abuse him. Isn't it interesting that he has sought an
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  Speaker 8: attorney who does the same. In some ways, I think
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  Speaker 8: the attorney is like dead beat dad, trying to control
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  Speaker 8: the jurors, trying to have power over them. It's to me,
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  Speaker 8: it's like male power on parade, and it's just very sickening.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of male power on the parade, I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: welcome everyone on our paneling, including a lot of mails.
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  Speaker 2: Dr Beth and as you want to maybe back.
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  Speaker 1: Off on the mailpower on pay thing until the very
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  Speaker 1: end when they can't leave.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Marda joining me and he's twelve investigative reporter out
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  Speaker 1: of New Jersey. Jim, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: What is happening in the courtroom? How is the jury reacting?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how can the defense attorney with a straight
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  Speaker 1: face say the dad had nothing to do with it?
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  Speaker 5: So thanks for having me on, Nancy.
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  Speaker 9: I think one of the important factors here before they
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  Speaker 9: showed that treadmill video in court.
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  Speaker 5: They played the.
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  Speaker 9: Video before the dad kept putting him up and down,
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  Speaker 9: up and down.
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  Speaker 5: On the treadmill.
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  Speaker 9: So in that courtroom a video played for twelve minutes
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  Speaker 9: showing that little boy running at full speed while the
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  Speaker 9: dad in the background was lifting weights and once in
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  Speaker 9: a while periodically checking in on him. So I think
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  Speaker 9: this has been missed in a lot of the reports
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  Speaker 9: we've seen online. But that child had been running for
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  Speaker 9: twelve full minutes before the dad sped it up and
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  Speaker 9: the video looked like he was running at full speed
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  Speaker 9: for a child of six years old. So you go
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  Speaker 9: in the courtroom. We're sitting there in the front row
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  Speaker 9: and we're watching in complete silence along with the At
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  Speaker 9: that time, there were sixteen jurors seated for twelve minutes,
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  Speaker 9: and then the video played showing the dad what you're
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  Speaker 9: showing right now.
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  Speaker 5: So you have to go.
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  Speaker 9: Back twelve minutes. This child had been running at full
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  Speaker 9: speed before the speed and the incline were increased.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy, Jim Murdot, Guys, joining, he's been the story from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, and again, let me correct myself. This is
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  Speaker 1: not a story.
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  Speaker 2: This is a real case. People are suffering.
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  Speaker 1: And every time I look at that little boy Corey
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  Speaker 1: running and following, face playing and falling, thrown literally thrown
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  Speaker 1: back on there, Jim Murdock, I think of my little
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  Speaker 1: boy John David and my little girl Lucy, and I
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  Speaker 1: imagine their head on that little body running and running
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  Speaker 1: and falling, and I can hardly stand it. But I
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  Speaker 1: got to ask you about something, Jim Murdock. Are you
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  Speaker 1: telling me that in court there was twelve minute there
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  Speaker 1: were twelve minutes of silence.
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  Speaker 9: Of silence while we were watching that little boy run
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  Speaker 9: before the dad sped up the treadmill. Twelve minutes of
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  Speaker 9: silence broken up when they'd switched to that video, and
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  Speaker 9: then there were audible gasps from quite a few people
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  Speaker 9: in that courtroom. But twelve minutes of silence watching that
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  Speaker 9: boy run.
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  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: Jared Farantino joining me, homicide prosecutor Jared, I remember, on
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  Speaker 1: several occasions, I would use the time it took, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: to asphyxiate someone, maybe two or three minutes. I'll have
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  Speaker 1: to go to doctor Erry Easton on that. In court,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, hold the pillow down in front of a
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  Speaker 1: jury and push it down and have complete silence for
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  Speaker 1: three minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It's so powerful because the.
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  Speaker 1: Jury then understands how long the father had to have
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  Speaker 1: saved his son all of this suffering, or how long
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  Speaker 1: the defendant took to form the act. What Jim Murlock
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  Speaker 1: just told us is, I mean, drop the mic right there, Farantino.
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  Speaker 10: It's so there's something about this video, Nancy that gets
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  Speaker 10: harder to watch every time you watch it, because you
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  Speaker 10: watch this little boy trying to get up he's trying
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  Speaker 10: to please his father's what he's trying to do and
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  Speaker 10: to probably stop the abuse that he's getting. But like
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  Speaker 10: you said, the length of time is so telling. Every
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  Speaker 10: second of those twelve minutes his father could have stopped this,
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  Speaker 10: and in my opinion, he's charged with first degree murder
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  Speaker 10: right now. Every second he didn't stop it was another
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  Speaker 10: second that shows. This is the attitude that this father
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  Speaker 10: has toward his son, reckless disregard, in fact an intentional
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  Speaker 10: act to commit murder.
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  Speaker 1: And guys, why do you see the text exchanges between
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  Speaker 1: the mom, the bio mom, and the biodead. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to start calling him the deadbeat dad because he
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to.
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  Speaker 2: Do with his son for years. How to have a
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  Speaker 2: paternity sin, I mean, really can't.
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  Speaker 1: The dad to say, Okay, yeah, I had sex with her.
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  Speaker 1: It's possible he would not pay any money for this
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  Speaker 1: child because he swore he wasn't the dad. And then
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  Speaker 1: he finally gets to see the child and then the
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  Speaker 1: child is abused. But I want you to hear about
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  Speaker 1: what happened when he takes the baby to the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 11: The day after Corey's examination by a pediatrician, Christopher Gregor
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  Speaker 11: tells Brianna Mitchello that Corey is feeling bad. The six
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  Speaker 11: year old is sleepy and nauseous. Gregor puts Corey down
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  Speaker 11: for a nap, and when he wakes up, Corey is stumbling,
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  Speaker 11: slurring his words, and is having trouble breathing. Gregor takes
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  Speaker 11: the boy to Southern Ocean Medical Center, where he's quickly
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  Speaker 11: admitted and intubated. Doctors take Corey for a CT scan.
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  Speaker 11: During the scan, Corey starts seizing and losing his pulse.
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  Speaker 11: Medical staff administer life saving efforts but cannot revive Corey.
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  Speaker 4: The initial autopsy reveals that Corey died as a result
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  Speaker 4: of blunt force injuries with cardiac and liver contusions, along
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  Speaker 4: with inflammation and sepsis. The Ocean County Medical Examiner lists
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  Speaker 4: the manner of death as undetermined. A forensic pathologist performs
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  Speaker 4: a second tops, he confirming the blunt force trauma and
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  Speaker 4: injuries to Corey's liver and heart. Corey was chronically abused
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  Speaker 4: and suffered an acute traumatic injury to his heart four
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  Speaker 4: to twelve hours before his death. Corey's death is reclassified
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  Speaker 4: as a homicide.
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  Speaker 2: So let me.
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  Speaker 1: Understand, Jim Murdoch, the defense attorney. Even in light of
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  Speaker 1: the medical examiner stating the boy died of chronic abuse
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  Speaker 1: and had essentially contusions bruises to the heart and other
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  Speaker 1: internal organs, they're trying to say, oh, yeah, no, that's
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  Speaker 1: not why did he died from sepsis from pneumonia? What
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  Speaker 1: is the jury doing while the defense attorney is arguing
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  Speaker 1: something completely contradictory to what the medical examiner said.
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  Speaker 9: Well, from what I've seen, the jury is paying very
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  Speaker 9: close attention to the medical ExM.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I hate it when somebody says, I say,
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  Speaker 1: what's the jury doing and the person says, oh, they're
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  Speaker 1: paying attention.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All that means to me is their eyes are open.
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  Speaker 1: Are they making faces? Do they turn away from the video?
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  Speaker 1: Do they glare at the defendant? What are they doing?
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  Speaker 1: Do they shake their head nowhere?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Anybody anything? Anybody crying anything, any reaction.
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  Speaker 5: Not a lot of crying.
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  Speaker 9: Again, the biggest outburst were the gasps when that twelve
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  Speaker 9: minutes of running transitioned into two and a half three
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  Speaker 9: minutes of falling over and over again.
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  Speaker 5: But I can tell you.
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  Speaker 9: That the jury is focused dead on with the people
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  Speaker 9: testifying on the stand. Once in a while will glance
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  Speaker 9: over to Christopher Gregor is sitting down.
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  Speaker 5: But there's just a lot of intense.
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  Speaker 1: Look at Jim. In your line of business, you know
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  Speaker 1: what it means to bury the lead, right, because you
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  Speaker 1: are a veteran investigative reporter. I know all about you.
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  Speaker 2: You ever heard bury the lead? You ever heard that phrase?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the lead is the jury gasps when they
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  Speaker 1: see what's happening. You know what that tells me, Jim Murdoch.
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  Speaker 1: It tells me the jury is having the same reaction
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  Speaker 1: having every time I look at that video. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: I've got chills on my right arm right now because
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  Speaker 1: I keep thinking of my baby girl Lucy, or my
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  Speaker 1: son John David up on that video falling over and
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  Speaker 1: over and over.
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  Speaker 2: How in the h E double L did this boy get.
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  Speaker 1: Bruising on the heart, bruising on other internal organs.
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  Speaker 9: That was the only time so far in the three
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  Speaker 9: days there were any visible noises reactions from the jeury
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  Speaker 9: when that little boy fell over and over. And besides that,
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  Speaker 9: it's been constant focus.
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  Speaker 5: But you're right, the jewelry and.
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  Speaker 9: Other people in the courtroom gasped watching this very video.
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  Speaker 4: Christopher Gregor called Brianna Mitchello to teller he took their
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  Speaker 4: son to the hospital, but did not tell her where.
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  Speaker 4: Mitchello called several hospitals and could not locate Corey, so
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  Speaker 4: she filed a missing person's report. At five point thirty PM,
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  Speaker 4: cops tell Mitchello that her son has died, just a
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  Speaker 4: month before his seventh birthday. After hearing the news of
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  Speaker 4: his son's death at the hospital, Christopher Gregor packs a
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  Speaker 4: bag and leaves for Tennessee. Gregor refuses to speak with authorities,
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  Speaker 4: requesting an attorney.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us an All Star panel straight out to doctor
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  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany, you mentioned the defense attorney's intimate
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  Speaker 1: involvement in this case or maybe identifying with this case.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you make of what you just heard
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  Speaker 1: that in another power play the husband received, well, excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: the biodad they're not married, refuses to tell the mom
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  Speaker 1: which hospital Corey is in.
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  Speaker 8: You know, Nanthey, I think there are two possibilities. One
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  Speaker 8: is that he's trying to abuse the child's mother, just
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  Speaker 8: like he's abusing the child. So when you think of
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  Speaker 8: the twelve minutes, that's not just abused as actually torture
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  Speaker 8: because it's so prolonged. So in some ways he kept
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  Speaker 8: his the bio mom in a tortured state as well.
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  Speaker 8: This guy relates on the base of power to everyone
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  Speaker 8: around him. And you know, when I think of child abuse,
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  Speaker 8: there's sort of two types in terms of the profile
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  Speaker 8: of the abuser. One is the parent who's overwhelmed, who
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  Speaker 8: thinks the child is bad, who doesn't know where the
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  Speaker 8: child is developmentally, so they explode, they hurt the child,
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  Speaker 8: but then they're remorseful afterwards. This is a very very
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  Speaker 8: different animal, Nancy. This is a man who is a sadist,
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  Speaker 8: who's mean. He gained control of the child in the
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  Speaker 8: child's fifth year. He wasn't even bonded with the child
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  Speaker 8: up until that point.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't even.
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  Speaker 8: Care about the child, so he got the child from
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  Speaker 8: the mother so he could control, dominate, and abuse. This
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  Speaker 8: is the kind of abuser who pumps himself up by
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  Speaker 8: finding something small around him so that he can just
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  Speaker 8: use that small little thing as a punching bake. And
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  Speaker 8: you know, these jurors are traumatized. That's why they gasped
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  Speaker 8: and then they were silent. When you read the definition
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  Speaker 8: of PTSD. It's not just being abused, it's watching abuse.
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  Speaker 1: To Jim Murdoch, I'm always shocked when deadbeat dads suddenly
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  Speaker 1: have a newfound interest in being with their child.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that what happened here?
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  Speaker 9: It certainly seems that way, with the paternity test coming
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  Speaker 9: in and then Christopher comes into his life when he's
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  Speaker 9: four years old, automatically gets full custody with visitation granted
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  Speaker 9: to Brian Mitchello on this case, and that was talked
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  Speaker 9: about at length in the first day of testimony, the
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  Speaker 9: events going back and forth with that. I also want
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  Speaker 9: to get back to some of the emotions that we saw.
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  Speaker 9: We talk about Chris sitting in that courtroom at the
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  Speaker 9: very beginning when the prosecution began to lay out their
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  Speaker 9: opening statement, showed emotion. He cried and then he did not.
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  Speaker 9: And I've been watching the way he handles everything. He's
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  Speaker 9: just sitting there, once in a while leaning over to
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  Speaker 9: his attorney Mario to.
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  Speaker 5: Speak with them.
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  Speaker 9: But when the jury's gasping, when we're watching that twelve minute.
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  Speaker 5: Silent video before he falls, Christopher is just sitting there
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  Speaker 5: in the courtroom and really not showing.
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  Speaker 9: A lot of emotion outside of what we saw when
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  Speaker 9: the prosecutors laid out the first minutes of their opening statements.
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  Speaker 9: It's fascinating to watch, you know. And then when when
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  Speaker 9: Brie Mitchello took the stand on the opening day, immediately
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  Speaker 9: her emotions, you know, quite a few times got the
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  Speaker 9: best of her, so very different emotional responses watching the
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  Speaker 9: defendant in the court and Brie Corey's mother in there,
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  Speaker 9: and that those are very notable that I picked up
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  Speaker 9: watching from the opening a few hours of this case.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It's not just this day that Corey was forced to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: run on the treadmill, sustaining blows to his heart and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: other internal organs. Damning text chains have emerged in courts.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: Brianna Mitchello posted text exchange two weeks before Corey dies.
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: Mitchello writes, Corey came upstairs upset and almost crying because
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: he was trying to ask you about playing football in
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: high school, and you smacked the ball out of his
• 20:29
  Speaker 12: hands and walked out. Gregor replies that I smacked the
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: ball out of his hands and he didn't say a
• 20:35
  Speaker 12: word to me. Gregor then texts that if hitting the
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: ball out of the six year old's hands makes him
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: cry that maybe he needs to be a little tougher
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: because that's soft tissue. After Gregor makes another comment about
• 20:48
  Speaker 12: Corey being over emotional, Briannon Mitchello responds, He's not over emotional.
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: You hurt his feelings. He got upset. He's six years old.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Why abusers blame every body else when they behave badly
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and criminally, they claim other people are over emotional. In fact,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall joining US high profile psychoanalyst out of
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: LA the mom, the bio mom, was made to look
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: crazy because she had made one hundred complaints to Defects
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Department Family Children's Services over twenty months to make her
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: look crazy and also, in addition to the text chaining
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: just heard, and I'm going to go to Jim Murdock
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in just a second on this from News twelve And
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: if you want more coverage in depth by the hour
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in trial, go to News twelve, New Jersey, Newswelf New
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: York Dtor Bethany. In addition to what you just heard,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I understand that earlier that the dad, the bio dad,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the defendant, the killer dad, suspect, deadbeat dad claimed that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Corey's face wait for it. I hope you're sitting down.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You may need to lay down, Bethany. That Corey's face
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: got in a way of a football that dad through
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and it made his nose blade and his blade.
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: Nancy, this killer dad is so crazy, you know. Abuse
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: Nancy always starts with rationalizations. His face gone in the way,
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: he's too fat, he needs to tough enough. Whenever I
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: have abusers come into my office, they make the abuse
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: sound so reasonable.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: One guy once said to me, you know, I pulled
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: my child out of school and I made him walk
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: home to make his bed because he needs to be
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: taught a lesson. So whenever you hear adults talking about
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: children in these demeaning ways, you have to consider abuse.
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: You have to consider reporting in terms of the mother.
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: I'm looking crazy.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: We have a phrase in my field. It's called crazy
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: making behavior. That's when somebody treats you in such a
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: way that you begin to fall apart and you look
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: like the crazy one. And he made her look so
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: crazy that even defacts didn't believe her. Not that I
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: want to let them off the hook, but I think
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: that's what happened. And this poor mother is just desperate
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: to help her child, so much so that she has
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: to document the abuse on a Facebook group. Nobody else
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: would listen to her, and just one offul thought Nancy
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: his demeanor in court. My first thought was, this is
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: probably the first time in deadbeat killer Dad's life where
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: he has not had the upper hand. He's not been
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: in charge, and he's not been in a position of power.
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: He probably doesn't even know how to be, what to do,
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: how you know how to be in this courtroom other
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: than let's watch. Pretty soon he's going to start glaring
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: at the jurors because.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: He's going to try to have power all over again.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Dude, Jim Murnau joining us needs to have new jersey.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I want to hear from your perspective of seeing it
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: unfold in court, how did the jerry respond to those
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: chilling texts messages Dad says after forcing his son to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: run in on the treadmill quote he needs to toughen up,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and the other evidence about his son six years old
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: face getting in the way of his football throne at
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: full force. I think you threw it at the little
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: boy and hit a bam right in the face.
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: The two words in those text messages that caught my
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: eye and seemed to catch some of the jurors were
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: the expression soft tissue. You're describing your son as having
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: soft tissue, and it's an expression you just are kind
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: of surprised to hear a dad talking about a bruise
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: but using that term.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: And I think that you.
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: Know that the phrasing, the perhaps the word choice made
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: that phrase stand out, particularly to the people in that courtroom.
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: Soft and you're showing the pictures now the dad described
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: the boy soft tissue.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: It's it's rough, it's rough to hear, it's rough to hear.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Briona Mitchello files an order to show cause seeking custody
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: of her son Corey, while DCPP investigates claims of abuse
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: the next day. In his decision, Judge Patrick Bradshaw says
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: that the order fails to demonstrate that the minor child
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: is in danger of imminent or irreparable harm, even after
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: reading a report about the treadmill video. Judge Bradshaw writes
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: that the court does not find a temporary modification of
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: the party's custody and parenting time arrangement appropriate at this time.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So now I'm finally getting the name of the judge
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that would it take the boy away from his father.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: That little boy, Corey is now dead.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Jim Marnott joining me in these twelve Doctor Eric Aeson
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and Bill Day.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I'm on the way, Jim Murdock.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: The judge, Judge Patrick Bradshaw, Is that correct? Because we
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: had to scour all of the news reports, all of
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the evidence that we had to get the name of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the judge that wouldn't take the boy away from the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: bio dad? Is that correct, Judge Patrick Bradshaw?
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: You know, I think you have more information than I
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: do on that judge. All I know is that when
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: Bree took the stand and said how the judge, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: one day before that child died, she was denied full custody.
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: You could see the helplessness she was reliving that all
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: over again on the stand. And I think that's so
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: important to highlight and emphasize now again. The defense they
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: tried to pull into Bree's past drug usage, saying she
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: wasn't a fit mom to take care.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Of that, and that was the defense's argument.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Hold on, Jim murder, you got me drinking out of
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the fire hydrant here. That's a lot of information and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to digest it all.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So typical victim.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Blaming the mom is a crime victim too, Her son's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: been murdered, according to prosecutors.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So hey, what can we do.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Er, Let's blame her, Let's find something wrong with her.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: You know what, if you've strung up everybody in this
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: country that's ever had a drug or alcohol problem, there'd
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: be nobody to go to work.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Everybody would be strung up. Hold on, just.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: One moment, I want you to hear the actual cood
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and what happened when Corey was taken to the hospital. Listen.
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: The day after Corey's examination by a pediatrician, Christopher Gregor
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: tells Brianna Mitchello that Corey is feeling bad. The six
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: year old is sleepy and nauseous. Gregor puts Corey down
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: for a nap, and when he wakes up, Corey is stumbling,
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: slurring his words, having trouble breathing. Gregor takes the boy
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: to Southern Ocean Medical Center, where he's quickly admitted and intubated.
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: Doctors take Corey for a CT scan. During the scan,
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: Corey starts seizing and losing his pulse. Medical staff administer
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: life saving efforts but cannot revive Corey.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: The initial autopsy reveals that Corey died as a result
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: of blunt force injuries with cardiac and liver contusions, along
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: with inflammation and sepsis. The Ocean County Medical Examiner lists
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: the manner of death as undetermined. A forensic pathologist performs
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: a second autopsy, confirming the blunt force trauma.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Doctor Ayson, thank you for
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: being with us. Could you and regular vernacular I ate
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: dummy down?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Doctor? Okay, we're not all mds like you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Could you explain what we just heard in regular people talk.
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: The autopsy report, so it described contusions, which are bruises.
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: You normally see bruises on the outside of the body,
• 29:11
  Speaker 13: but you can also see them internally. They were found
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: on the heart and on the liver, and so what
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: it indicates to me is that there was some type
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: of blunt force trauma. So solid object struck the chest,
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: also struck the adamin causing those bruises. And then the
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: trauma was so rough that not only did it cause
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: a bruise in the heart, but it also split a
• 29:34
  Speaker 13: hole into the heart as well.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So that's what we have here, doctor aery Ason. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: didn't get that from the testimony. Maybe it was buried
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in there because when doctor start testifying no offense of course,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and they are speaking in technical hospital jargon. Did you
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: say he had a hole in his heart? A hole
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: was torn in his heart?
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: Laceration, Yes, a tear.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: A laceration. His heart was lacerated. It wasn't just a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: bruising of the heart. The heart was actually lacerated. Are
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you sure that's right?
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: That's what I got from the articles that we read.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So, Jim Murdock, is this true?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Was Corey's heart actually lacerated or torn?
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: The injuries described for what twelve fourteen different bruises, including
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: different bruises as seen by the first grade teacher can Peace,
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: I believe her name was, saw different bruises over that
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: time between the treadmill and keep in mind, folks, the
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: treadmill incident happened March twentieth, April second Corey.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Was dead, So what we don't know what happened.
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: Before March twentieth, what shape was the boy in prior
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: to that treadmill, and what injuries were sustained during that
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: treadmill and then following that Treadmill ins and up until
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: April second. It is the defense's argument, from what they
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: said in opening statements, that the boy died of pneumonia
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: and sepsis. But we've heard doctors say sepsis can happen
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: from internally bruised confused organs can also cause sepsis. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: think that's going to be a major part of the
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: second half of this trial, once the defense has things
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: in their court, and you're going to hear a lot.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Of doctor jargon.
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: One of the things we heard in the opening statements,
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: two pathologists, two very different conclusions here.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Jim Erlock, I didn't I couldn't hear you you got
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: cut off. Did you tell me there is or is
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: not a laceration to the heart.
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: They did mention heart bruising or internal organ bruising in
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: the opening statements.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Straight back out to Jim Murdock joining us from Used
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: twelve New Jersey, News twelve New York where you.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Can see this hour by hour what's happening in the courtroom.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Jim, I believe you're correct because you are referring to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the first autopsy. I'm talking about doctor Andrews that then
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: did another took another pass atit. Did he find the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: laceration to the heart? Jim?
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: That is where I believe it was put in documentation
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: that a heart laceration sound, So what does that mean?
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: So if the boy died of sepsis, can a heart
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: laceration cause that sort of Jim?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: As much as I respect you, I don't think you've
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: got an MD.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Neither do on No, it is doctor Anson, dummy down again.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: What's a heart laceration? How do you get a heart
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: laceration from a severe beating?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Possibly?
• 32:57
  Speaker 13: Yes, it's a blend. It's an evidence to b one
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: enforced trauma. All lacerations are due to black trauma, whether
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: they happen on the skin or internally. And so the
• 33:05
  Speaker 13: kid was struck in the chest with a lot of force.
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: That's what's going to cause a tear in the heart.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Bill Daly is joining me special guest, former FBI investigator
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and now specialist in forensic photography and security expert. Bill,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Bill.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed when you bring in a suspect
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and you kind of got them red handed, they started saying,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: look here, look there, it's their fault. It's their fault,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: not me. Sod some other, dude, did it? Have you
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: ever noticed that before?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Absolutely?
• 33:37
  Speaker 14: In fact, there are prisons filled with people who say
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: the same thing. That's exactly what the mo is of
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: individuals who are responsible for committing crimes and other Heno's acts.
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: You know, Nancy, if we look at this case, and
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: I am kind of a fact based person over my years,
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: and just the facts, just the facts, as Joe Friday
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: once said, if you look at this kind of timeline
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: and litany of the images we've seen, we've seen images
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: matches the videos, which is surely compelling and emotional, but
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: also tell the story when Gregor is as his son
• 34:06
  Speaker 14: on the treadmill and brings him into the hospital. We
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: have pictures the mother had taken of the injuries of
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: her son, Corey. But with two things stand out to me.
• 34:14
  Speaker 14: It's one, we're not seeing all the other things that
• 34:16
  Speaker 14: could have happened behind the scenes with not on video
• 34:19
  Speaker 14: when pictures are not taken, you know, And I also say,
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: what happened? What happened to the system here?
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Where all the stuff we're.
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: So compelling, at least compelling to us as we watch it,
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: that a judge did in order for some protective custoding
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: to take place prior to the child dying, you know.
• 34:36
  Speaker 14: And you know, finally I'd like to kind of put
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: on top of this, Nancy, is the fact that, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: my brothers in law enforcement, the people in the Ocean
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: County Prosecutor's office and investigators from the Ocean County law
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: enforcement agencies have now stated they've come out and said
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: that Corey suffered life damaging, life ending injuries as a
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: result of his time with his father, and that his father, Gregor,
• 35:02
  Speaker 14: is responsible for his death.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You know another thing, Bill Day and correct me if
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Jim Murdock, the initial judge, said this video
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: is not enough for an emergency order taking the boy
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: away from dad.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: It's not enough.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: But then that same video was used to deny greg
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Or the bio Dad Bill. So for one judge, no
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: way for another judge. Hgl Yes. So I guess it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder. So one judge saw
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: this and saw the report of contusions and all of.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: That and refused to take the boy away.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Then the boy dies, and now that same video is
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: used to justify no bail.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: That's bass Ackwards.
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: You know what, Nancy, I think these images here. Why
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: and the question is why would someone see it differently
• 35:58
  Speaker 14: than another. It's difficult to say. I think we all
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: are seeing for what it is, and I think you
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: know these images. We'd like to almost have many cases
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: that we work on over the years have such compelling
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: images as we've seen here, as tragedy as they are,
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: because it tells the story, and why someone would interprete
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: it one with the other I don't understand. And unfortunately,
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: as we know is that was part of the system
• 36:21
  Speaker 14: here that failed poor the poor child and led to
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: his ultimately death.
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: On cross examination, Christopher Gregor's attorney, Mario Galucci, tries to
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: show a different side of Corey's grieving mother. Galucci asks
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: Brianna Mitchello if she and some friends vandalized the home
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: of Christopher Gregor's parents after the death of her son Corey.
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: When Galucci asks if she and her friends throw eggs
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: and dead goldfish at the house, Brianna Mitchello says she
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: doesn't think it was goldfish, but fish purchased from the supermarket.
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: Mitchello admits to throwing rocks, dead fish bones, and eggs
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: at the home of Gregor's parents.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: So we see an age old tactic being used in
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: court to Jim Ark joining us from News twelve New Jersey.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: This is after her son is killed and the mom
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: nobody would listen to her at all one hundred complaints. She,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: as doctor Bethany pointed out, the only thing she could do.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: She posted on Facebook basically, can somebody listen to me?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So she goes by and throws some dead fish. She
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: got the supermarket at their house. Now what, she's the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: bad person.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: You got to look at the timeline of this.
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: So for months and months after her son died, Christopher
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: was only charged with child endangerment until the murder charges,
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: until that second autopsy came out. So she forms a
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: Facebook group Justice for Corey, and this was brought up
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: on the second day of testimony as well, trying to
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: find posters in that privately on Facebook group signs of
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: aggression toward the Gregor family.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: It was brought up briefly and then.
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: Mario, the attorney for Christopher Gregor, brought up a dead
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: fish in court. It was objected, it was shut down,
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: but the point was in the court this was all
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: happening from a grieving mother's perspective.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Got it, you know? Before you run out of time.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I want to go to Jarrett Fiorentino and correct me
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: if my facts are wrong.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Jarrett Fiorentino and.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Bill Dilla, You've dealt with so many perps when they
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: go on the run. Flight is evidence of guilt. And
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: in this case, after Corey died, the dad is not
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: sticking around.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: He hauls booty and hides out in a motel. I
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: believe in Tennessee. How does that look to you, Jarrett.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Fiarantino, Because I say, well, you don't know a horse.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Look at his track record. Deadbeat dad covered in bruises
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: take so often takes off to Tennessee. It hides out.
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: It looks to me like consciousness of guilt, Nancy. And
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: it's a duck. So a jury can be instructed. It's
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: so critical in the law that when someone takes off
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: when they're in trouble, a jury is actually, as you know, instructed.
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: Flight or running away is consciousness of guilt, and a
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  Speaker 10: jury can consider that. Think about any time people ever
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: run away in their life, what are they running away
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: from trouble? He ran away because he knew he was
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: going to have to answer for the injuries that were
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: all over Corey and everything that happened to Corey at
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: that point. So it's flight, it's consciousness of guilt. It
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: will be the final nail in a lot of nails
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  Speaker 10: in what undoubtedly will be the coffin of mister Gregor.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: You know what, Jeron Farantino, I would like to agree
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: with you, But do I have to say A J. Simpson,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Robert Blake, Michael Jackson. I don't know what this jury's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: going to do.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Bill Bill Day for FBI flight.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Instead of sticking around, Daddy takes off, flees the jurisdiction
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and hies out in a Tennessee motel.
• 40:09
  Speaker 14: Night exactly, Nancy, And I mean, in addition to the
• 40:12
  Speaker 14: legal view of this, here's the emotional viewer saying, you know,
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: where was he when, you know, when when people around
• 40:18
  Speaker 14: him needed him, when when the grieving mother maybe needed him,
• 40:21
  Speaker 14: when he needed to be there to kind of you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 14: close this loop with his his dead son. You know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: where was he at that time? And I think you
• 40:29
  Speaker 14: know as much as they are talking about, you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: the mother and maybe some relatives throwing rocks and fish.
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: You know, at at Gregor's parents home. You know, this
• 40:37
  Speaker 14: goes far beyond that. In my view, is that he
• 40:40
  Speaker 14: wasn't there for anyone. He wasn't there for for you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 14: close that close that final chapter in his son's life.
• 40:47
  Speaker 14: By being there when his son is being being waked
• 40:50
  Speaker 14: or perhaps being buried, It just doesn't doesn't jive with me,
• 40:53
  Speaker 14: and it goes to that whole issue of flight and
• 40:57
  Speaker 14: his his sense of responsibility.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: This going on right now, we wait as justice unfolds,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: God willing for six year old Corey. Now we stop
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and remember American hero police officer Michael Hussack. Thirty seven.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Officer Hussack shot in the line of duty, leaving behind
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a grieving wife, Caitlin, and children Nicole, Gabriel and Samuel
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: sentenced to life without dad. American hero police Officer Michael Hussack.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our guests for being with us,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: but especially to you for being with us tonight and
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  Speaker 1: every night. Nancy Grace signing off good night for him.