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- 0:00Foreigning us now for five insightful minutes is Kevin Billings, Vice president of sales and Business development at sifter.
- 0:13Kevin is here to share the latest on significant proposed changes to the US SNAP program.
- 0:19But first, Kevin, listeners will become increasingly familiar with the Sifter name for your sponsorship of Grocer Talk.
- 0:25So can you start by just sharing a little bit about how you support grocers with their personalization?
- 0:31Thanks for having me, Ben.
- 0:33Really excited about our sponsorship with Grocer Talk.
- 0:37Yes.
- 0:37So a little bit of history if you don't know much about Sifter.
- 0:41We are a food is medicine food intelligence technology solution.
- 0:47We've been around for five plus years now, but we've got a a really deep grocery retail background.
- 0:55Our founders, Andrew and Thomas Parkinson, along with Judy Sebold, our third founder.
- 1:02Andrew and Thomas are the founders of Peapod.
- 1:05So the first online grocery store back in the day.
- 1:08So have been innovators forever and ever.
- 1:12But after they sold it to I hold Delhaize, they've always had a desire to make healthy eating easy for everyone.
- 1:19So that was the kind of brainchild behind Sifter.
- 1:22Chris, create a technology that would help retailers do that.
- 1:25So currently we're engaging with retailers to help them with better personalization, any food is medicine strategies that they have.
- 1:35And so we've been helping them for the last four or five years and doing all of those things.
- 1:41Okay Kevin, let's talk about SNAP waivers because they've been a really hot topic in our industry recently.
- 1:47So look scene setting for anyone outside the US SNAP is the US Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, a federal government initiative that provides food purchasing assistance to low income households.
- 2:01You know, think of them as modern day food stamps.
- 2:03So Kevin, can you describe for us what are the so called SNAP waivers and what's the latest on their state level implementation?
- 2:12A year and a half or so ago there was a movement from states to ask for waivers from the USDA to not allow SNAP subsidies to be spent on foods and beverages that we know are causing chronic disease.
- 2:31So think about sodas and candies, high fructose corn syrup as the first ingredient items.
- 2:38And over the last year or so there are now 23 states that have active waivers.
- 2:47Some of them have been put on delay because of the USDA's desire to maybe have some open comment periods just to make sure that they're aligning on doing the right things.
- 2:59But at the end of the day we feel like even those delays are going to be diluted soon and most states will have a waiver but philosophically, the goal behind the waivers are to try to not have SNAP
- 3:15subsidies paid for things that we know are causing chronic disease.
- 3:20So what do you see, Kevin, from your position as the potential impact for both grocers and CPGs of the waivers?
- 3:26And what do retailers need to make sure they're doing to maintain their SNAP license?
- 3:31I mean, the USDA said, hey, if you're not compliant, you might lose your SNAP license.
- 3:38That's not a good thing for many retailers.
- 3:41You know, up to 30 to 40% of their revenue is coming from SNAP dollars.
- 3:45So they definitely don't want that to happen.
- 3:48So it's a big thing.
- 3:50And of course CPGs are impacted because if they happen to have products that are ineligible now, then they're obviously losing revenue.
- 3:58So a lot of revenue at play here.
- 4:01But interestingly enough, what we're hearing from retailers is as much as they were concerned about this movement at first, some retailers are telling us that because their margins are so low on some of their direct store delivery items
- 4:19that include the soda and candy, that now that Sifter is working with them to serve up alternative products that are eligible in these SNAP affected categories, their margins are actually higher on those products.
- 4:33So less of a revenue strain for them at this point.
- 4:37But all in all, you know, the, the retailers has have asked for two things.
- 4:42One, accurate restricted product lists to integrate into their POS so that they're in compliance, but also tools for their shoppers for nutrition education, better guidance, and opportunities for their shoppers to scan products in store to determine eligibility well
- 5:01before they get to checkout.
- 5:02So I really want to get into a practical example of this.
- 5:04And you know, we've been talking about SIFTA having recently announced a contract with the state of Arkansas for a SNAP waiver compliance service.
- 5:13So can you tell me more about that and the impact that it's having on both retailers and SNAP shoppers in the state?
- 5:20Earlier this year, the governor, Governor Huckabee Sanders made a strategic decision and a conscious choice to pay for services that retailers of Arkansas could take advantage of, but also develop a SNAP app for all of the Arkansas SNAP
- 5:39shoppers to use in store to scan products for eligibility.
- 5:45So we worked hard to win that contract and that's what we've created for the state, a data exchange for retailers to submit their assortment for us to do our analysis.
- 5:56And we're delivering the accurate restricted product list back to them based on their assortment.
- 6:01And then the Arkansas Snap companion app is really being highly adopted by Snap shoppers across the state so that they can scan products to determine eligibility well before they get to checkout.
- 6:15This is part of a large, healthy initiative for the state of Arkansas, but it's working really well.
- 6:23And our hope is that other states will adopt this same model in order to be able to serve the SNAP shoppers of their state well, along with the retailers of their state really well.
- 6:34So, Kevin, just describe to us how the SIFTA solution, which you designed to help shoppers make kind of active, healthy lifestyle choices.
- 6:42How does it help retailers and CPG brands navigate this SNAP landscape?
- 6:47Because of our food is medicine background and because of the way that we built our, our, our technology, our APIs, our processes, methodologies and algorithms around, you know, truly understanding the ingredients and nutritional makeup of all food and
- 7:11beverage products in it set us up well for this.
- 7:16Now, I will say the complications around the SNAP waivers is that every state is different.
- 7:22So, you know, some states are very straightforward.
- 7:27It's like, hey, no more soda, no more candy.
- 7:29Some are way more granular.
- 7:32Arkansas is an example.
- 7:35A juice that is less than 50% real juice is ineligible for SNAP, but if it's more than 50% real juice, it's eligible.
- 7:43So, you know, some states are digging in a little bit deeper on their definition of a restriction.
- 7:49So sifter's in a unique position because again, we understand the nutritional makeup of all food and beverage products to be able to align the restrictions through our analysis to be able to accurately determine what UPCs are eligible or
- 8:06not.
- 8:07So, you know, we feel that, you know, states should have the ability to make those determinations on their own.
- 8:15But we also feel that Sifter is the perfect partner to help them make sure that they're implementing accurately because of our unique abilities, as I defined just a few months ago.
- 8:26Great.
- 8:26So, Kevin, if people want to hear more, if they want to discuss this further, how can they contact you?
- 8:31Kevin.billingsiftersolutions.com or you can go to our website, siftersolutions.com and track down to our SNAP page with more detail.
- 8:43Appreciate you joining us.
- 8:44Thank you, Kevin.
- 8:45Thank you so much.