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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College. All Things
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- 0:11Speaker 1: at hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just google, Apple
- 0:14Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale Burning Glorietan in Grace in America, I'm
- 0:21Speaker 1: here do it. The reason that most of the country
- 0:24Speaker 1: takes Tomorrow off, the reason we sell off the fireworks
- 0:28Speaker 1: on Saturday and celebrate all day long, is that Saturday
- 0:32Speaker 1: marks the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this in
- 0:36Speaker 1: Congress July fourth, seventeen seventy six, the Unanimous Declaration of
- 0:41Speaker 1: the thirteen United States of America, When in the course
- 0:45Speaker 1: of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
- 0:49Speaker 1: dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,
- 0:52Speaker 1: and to assume among the powers of the earth the
- 0:54Speaker 1: separate and equal station to which the laws of nature
- 0:57Speaker 1: and Nature's God entitle them. A decent respect to the
- 1:00Speaker 1: opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes
- 1:04Speaker 1: which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths
- 1:08Speaker 1: to be self evident, that all men are created equal,
- 1:12Speaker 1: that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights,
- 1:16Speaker 1: that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
- 1:19Speaker 1: That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
- 1:23Speaker 1: deriving their powers from the consent of the government. That
- 1:26Speaker 1: whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends,
- 1:30Speaker 1: it is the right of the people to alter or
- 1:32Speaker 1: abolish it, And then the institute new government, laying its
- 1:36Speaker 1: foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such
- 1:40Speaker 1: forms that to them shall seem most likely to affect
- 1:43Speaker 1: their safety and happiness. Prudence indeed, will dictate the government's
- 1:47Speaker 1: long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.
- 1:52Speaker 1: And accordingly, all experiences shown that mankind are more disposed
- 1:56Speaker 1: of suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves
- 1:59Speaker 1: by a polishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
- 2:02Speaker 1: But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing
- 2:06Speaker 1: invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them
- 2:10Speaker 1: under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty,
- 2:14Speaker 1: to throw off such government, and to provide new guards
- 2:17Speaker 1: for their future security. Such has been the patient's sufferance
- 2:21Speaker 1: of these colonies, and such as now the necessity which
- 2:24Speaker 1: constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The
- 2:28Speaker 1: history of the present King of Britain is a history
- 2:31Speaker 1: of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object
- 2:35Speaker 1: the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To
- 2:39Speaker 1: prove this, let facts be summoned to a candid world.
- 2:44Speaker 1: He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome
- 2:47Speaker 1: and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his
- 2:50Speaker 1: governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless
- 2:54Speaker 1: suspended in their operation, to his assent should be obtained,
- 2:58Speaker 1: and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend
- 3:01Speaker 1: to them. He has refused to pass other laws for
- 3:04Speaker 1: the accommodation of large districts of people unless those people
- 3:08Speaker 1: would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a
- 3:11Speaker 1: right inessenable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He
- 3:16Speaker 1: has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and
- 3:21Speaker 1: distant from the depository of their public records, for the
- 3:24Speaker 1: sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
- 3:29Speaker 1: He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly for opposing, with manly
- 3:33Speaker 1: firmness his invasions of the rights of the people. He
- 3:36Speaker 1: has refused, for a long time, after such disillusions, to
- 3:39Speaker 1: cause others to be elected, whereby the legislative powers incapable
- 3:43Speaker 1: of annihilation have returned the people at large for their exercise.
- 3:48Speaker 1: The state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the
- 3:50Speaker 1: dangers of invasion from without and convulsions within, he has
- 3:55Speaker 1: endeavored to print the populations of these states for that purpose,
- 3:58Speaker 1: obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass
- 4:03Speaker 1: others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the condition
- 4:07Speaker 1: of new appropriations of lands. He has obstructed the administration
- 4:11Speaker 1: of justice by refusing his assent to the laws for
- 4:14Speaker 1: establishing judiciary powers. He has made judges dependent on his
- 4:19Speaker 1: will alone for the tenure of their offices and the
- 4:21Speaker 1: amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a
- 4:25Speaker 1: multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers
- 4:29Speaker 1: who harass our people eat out their substance. He is
- 4:33Speaker 1: kept among us in times of peace standing armies without
- 4:36Speaker 1: the consent of our legislatures. He is affected to render
- 4:40Speaker 1: military independent of and superior to, the civil power. He
- 4:44Speaker 1: is combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction
- 4:46Speaker 1: foreign to our constitution, unacknowledged by our laws, Giving his
- 4:51Speaker 1: assent to the acts of pretended legislation, for quartering large
- 4:55Speaker 1: bodies of armed troops among us, for protecting, by a
- 4:59Speaker 1: mock trial file from punishment for any murders for which
- 5:02Speaker 1: they commit on the inhabitants of these states, by cutting
- 5:06Speaker 1: off our trade with all parts of the world, by
- 5:08Speaker 1: imposing taxes on us without consent, for depriving us, in
- 5:12Speaker 1: many cases of the benefits of trial by jury, for
- 5:16Speaker 1: transporting us beyond the seas to be tried, for pretended offenses,
- 5:21Speaker 1: for abolishing the free system of English laws and a
- 5:23Speaker 1: neighboring province, establishing in their arbitrary government and enlarging its boundaries,
- 5:29Speaker 1: so as to render it at once an example and
- 5:31Speaker 1: fit instrument, for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies,
- 5:36Speaker 1: For taking away our charters, abolishing their most valuable laws,
- 5:40Speaker 1: altering fundamentally the forms of our government, For suspending our legislatures,
- 5:45Speaker 1: and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us
- 5:48Speaker 1: in all cases whatsoever, He has abdicated government here by
- 5:53Speaker 1: declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
- 5:57Speaker 1: He has plundered our sees, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns,
- 6:02Speaker 1: and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at
- 6:04Speaker 1: this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete
- 6:08Speaker 1: the works of death, desolation, and tyrannary tyranny already begun
- 6:13Speaker 1: with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the
- 6:17Speaker 1: most barbarous ages, totally unworthy of the head of a
- 6:22Speaker 1: civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow citizens, taken captive
- 6:26Speaker 1: on the high seas, to bear arms against their country,
- 6:29Speaker 1: to become ex executioners of their friends and brethren, or
- 6:33Speaker 1: to fall themselves by their hands. He has excited domestic
- 6:37Speaker 1: insurrections among us, and he's endeavored to bring on the
- 6:40Speaker 1: inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known
- 6:45Speaker 1: rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes,
- 6:49Speaker 1: and condition. In every stage of these oppressions, we have
- 6:52Speaker 1: petition for redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated
- 6:56Speaker 1: petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. Prince, whose
- 7:01Speaker 1: character is thus marked by every act which may define
- 7:03Speaker 1: a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of the
- 7:06Speaker 1: free people. Nor have we been wanting an attention to
- 7:10Speaker 1: our British brethren. We have warned them from time to
- 7:13Speaker 1: time of attempts by their legislatures to an extend and
- 7:15Speaker 1: unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them in the
- 7:19Speaker 1: circumstances of our emigration and settlement here we have appealed
- 7:23Speaker 1: to their native justice and magnanimy, And we have conjured
- 7:26Speaker 1: them by ties of our common kindred to disavow the
- 7:29Speaker 1: usurpations which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They
- 7:35Speaker 1: too have been death to the voice of justice and consanguity.
- 7:38Speaker 1: And consanguity, we must therefore acquiesce in the necessity which
- 7:43Speaker 1: denounces our separation, and hold them as we hold the
- 7:47Speaker 1: rest of mankind, enemies and war in peace. France. We, therefore,
- 7:53Speaker 1: the Representatives of the United States of America in General,
- 7:57Speaker 1: Congress Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World
- 8:00Speaker 1: for the rectitude of our intentions, due in the name
- 8:03Speaker 1: and by the authority of the good people of these
- 8:05Speaker 1: colonies solely publish and declare that these United Colonies are
- 8:09Speaker 1: and of right ought to be free in independent states,
- 8:13Speaker 1: that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown,
- 8:16Speaker 1: and that all political connection between them and the State
- 8:19Speaker 1: of Great Britain is not to be totally dissolved, and
- 8:22Speaker 1: that it's free and independent states. They have full power
- 8:25Speaker 1: to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and
- 8:31Speaker 1: do all their acts and things which independent states may
- 8:34Speaker 1: have right to. And for the support of this declaration,
- 8:38Speaker 1: with a firm alliance on the protection of divine providence,
- 8:42Speaker 1: we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes,
- 8:46Speaker 1: and our sacred honor. It goes on to list the
- 8:50Speaker 1: signers of the declaration. Now our friends that the Americans
- 8:53Speaker 1: for Prosperity FP, they begun the declaration project, and they've
- 8:59Speaker 1: asked me to encourage you to do what I just
- 9:01Speaker 1: did on July fourth, the actual day, Go to the
- 9:05Speaker 1: National Archives. Print it out. It took eight minutes to
- 9:11Speaker 1: read out loud, and maybe you can pronounce consanguinity better
- 9:16Speaker 1: than I can. Eight minutes to do that. AFP is
- 9:20Speaker 1: in fact asking you to head over to a two
- 9:23Speaker 1: fifty toolkit dot com slash hugh a two fifty toolkit
- 9:28Speaker 1: dot com slash hugh and sign there the pledge to
- 9:33Speaker 1: do that a two fifty toolkit dot com slash hue.
- 9:39Speaker 1: When you do that, I mean when you sit around
- 9:41Speaker 1: and you do it, actually talk about it with your
- 9:44Speaker 1: friends and family, see if anything sits particularly well with them.
- 9:49Speaker 1: I have long told my law students that my favorite
- 9:52Speaker 1: part of the Declaration is in the indictment of George,
- 9:56Speaker 1: when he has called the task for sending out swarms
- 10:02Speaker 1: of officials to read up our substance. He has erected
- 10:07Speaker 1: a multitude of new offices and sent hitherous forms of
- 10:10Speaker 1: officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
- 10:14Speaker 1: That reminds me of the administrative state today. That's why
- 10:17Speaker 1: it's my favorite part of the Declaration. But maybe you
- 10:19Speaker 1: have a different one. You might like the beginning of
- 10:21Speaker 1: the end, you like the middle, or one of the phrases.
- 10:24Speaker 1: You might be able to pronounce consanguinity. But I encourage
- 10:28Speaker 1: you to go to a two fifty tool kit dot
- 10:31Speaker 1: com slash u, sign on to the Declaration project, and
- 10:35Speaker 1: do that on Saturday with family and friends before the fireworks,
- 10:39Speaker 1: the hot dogs, and the hamburgers. And then I also
- 10:41Speaker 1: encourage you to come right back to today Thursday July,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I have the second qu view at show. Welcome back
- 10:51Speaker 1: to America and go do it. Please welcome an old friend,
- 10:55Speaker 1: Fred Ryan. Fred is the president of the Reagan Foundation.
- 10:58Speaker 1: In the on civility and Democracy, I hold in my
- 11:03Speaker 1: hand the book, the Civility Handbook that the Foundation has
- 11:06Speaker 1: put out. Fred. Welcome. I began the show today by
- 11:10Speaker 1: reading the Declaration of Independence, and I had a note
- 11:13Speaker 1: because I knew you'd be on today, that it includes
- 11:15Speaker 1: in its first paragraph, a decent respect to the opinion
- 11:19Speaker 1: of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which
- 11:23Speaker 1: impel them to separate. A decent respect for the opinion
- 11:26Speaker 1: of mankind kind of the whole theme of the Civility Handbook,
- 11:29Speaker 1: Isn't it.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Exactly right?
- 11:32Speaker 1: Hugh?
- 11:32Speaker 2: And thanks, it's great to be back on your show.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
- 11:35Speaker 3: But we time that Civility Handbook to coincide with the
- 11:39Speaker 3: two fiftieth because it's a time for people to look
- 11:42Speaker 3: back and see how does our model of democracy work,
- 11:45Speaker 3: what does it require, and how can we keep it
- 11:48Speaker 3: perfecting it?
- 11:48Speaker 4: Going forward.
- 11:49Speaker 2: So we we put together a lot of things, as
- 11:51Speaker 2: you know you've seen it, and we have everything.
- 11:54Speaker 3: From quotes from Sandrade O'Connor to Snoop Dogg on ways
- 11:59Speaker 3: that we can age more civilly and respectfully with our
- 12:02Speaker 3: fellow Americans.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Let's run through some of the chapters. First of all, sure,
- 12:07Speaker 1: you call civility the cornerstone of democracy. That's because democracy
- 12:11Speaker 1: actually depends upon the free exchange of ideas. Why else
- 12:15Speaker 1: is it the cornerstone?
- 12:18Speaker 2: Well, it's just as you said.
- 12:20Speaker 3: I mean, it's not about democracy doesn't work if we
- 12:24Speaker 3: can't have disagreement. In fact, I think a disagreement is
- 12:27Speaker 3: an essential element democracy. But we find ourselves today too
- 12:31Speaker 3: often in a situation where if we disagree with someone
- 12:35Speaker 3: or if they have a bad idea, then they're a
- 12:37Speaker 3: bad person and we don't deal with them any longer,
- 12:39Speaker 3: and it precludes the opportunity for finding common grounds. So
- 12:45Speaker 3: what we've tried to say in the book, and just
- 12:46Speaker 3: back to your reference to the reading the Doctorates of Independence,
- 12:50Speaker 3: it wasn't just there, but our early our founding fathers
- 12:54Speaker 3: were worried about this. George Washington and his farewell address
- 12:58Speaker 3: talked about his fear that we would develop into factions
- 13:01Speaker 3: that were competing, factions that put their own interests ahead
- 13:05Speaker 3: of the of the country, and even that they would
- 13:08Speaker 3: try to exact revenge on other factions.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And I think we're seeing a little bit of that now.
- 13:13Speaker 1: So chapter two I love this one as well. The
- 13:16Speaker 1: power of humility and crucially curiosity, because yeah, you got
- 13:21Speaker 1: to be humble about yourself. I think that's that that
- 13:24Speaker 1: ought to be a given for any human being that
- 13:27Speaker 1: realizes not knowing what you don't not knowing what you
- 13:30Speaker 1: know don't know, knowing what you don't know is crucial,
- 13:33Speaker 1: but curiosity about what other people do know is essential.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's it's it's part of the having a
- 13:42Speaker 2: good conversation.
- 13:43Speaker 3: If you start off by saying I know everything here,
- 13:47Speaker 3: I don't care to hear what you have to say. Uh,
- 13:50Speaker 3: and and you're and you're not you don't have enough humility,
- 13:53Speaker 3: you're not humble enough to actually listen. I think you're
- 13:56Speaker 3: you're not moving our collective interests forward, and you're probably
- 14:00Speaker 3: not serving yourself well because you figure you've already figured
- 14:04Speaker 3: it out and there's nothing more that you can hear
- 14:06Speaker 3: from anybody else.
- 14:07Speaker 2: But every one of us.
- 14:07Speaker 3: I know, we can all tend to find ourselves feeling
- 14:11Speaker 3: that we are the experts on this or that, or
- 14:13Speaker 3: we know better than others.
- 14:14Speaker 2: But just a little dose of humility helps Fred.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Just earlier this week we had the birthright citizenship decision.
- 14:22Speaker 1: I've been through all six opinions twice. Now I must
- 14:25Speaker 1: say Justice Kavana has me rethinking a little bit. But
- 14:29Speaker 1: I agree with the Chief Justice and his decision because
- 14:32Speaker 1: I think it's persuasive. But I found good arguments in
- 14:35Speaker 1: Justice Thomas's that proceed from his view of the fourteenth Amendment.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Justice Alito is concerned very much about the future. Everyone's
- 14:41Speaker 1: got something to offer, but you got to read it.
- 14:43Speaker 1: You gotta be curious about what their arguments are that
- 14:45Speaker 1: they would vote that way. And that applies to basically
- 14:48Speaker 1: every argument in America, right you.
- 14:52Speaker 3: I mean, how can we grow in our own opinions,
- 14:56Speaker 3: how can we improve our opinions, and how can we
- 14:58Speaker 3: find ways where despite our differferences, we.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Find common ground.
- 15:03Speaker 3: If we can't have the humility to listen to a
- 15:06Speaker 3: fellow American when they're sharing.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Their point of view about what's best for the country, well,
- 15:11Speaker 1: I first heard about the Civility Handbook. I was on
- 15:14Speaker 1: the panel the night you were on with Brett Baer
- 15:16Speaker 1: on his common ground segment and your chapter six in
- 15:20Speaker 1: this is fine common ground that's often easier said than done.
- 15:24Speaker 1: What's the recommendation on how to find common ground?
- 15:28Speaker 3: You know, and you and I have talked about this,
- 15:30Speaker 3: and going back to our years of friendship and your
- 15:33Speaker 3: role is commenting on the political landscape, is there were
- 15:37Speaker 3: times where this could be done.
- 15:39Speaker 2: And one example I know we've talked about is Ronald
- 15:41Speaker 2: Reagan and Tip O'Neil.
- 15:43Speaker 3: You had a conservative Republican governor from the West and
- 15:47Speaker 3: a liberal Eastern Democrat Speaker of the House. Politically they
- 15:51Speaker 3: were pretty opposite, but they could find that there were
- 15:54Speaker 3: areas where they could find common ground and they.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Could move things forward for the benefit of the country.
- 15:59Speaker 3: And the other lesson was I think they, despite feeling
- 16:02Speaker 3: that the other had bad ideas, they never said they're
- 16:06Speaker 3: a bad person, and I don't want to.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Deal with them.
- 16:09Speaker 1: I also want to hold up as an example of this,
- 16:12Speaker 1: a man you work with for a long time, very closely,
- 16:14Speaker 1: when you were publisher of the Washington Post and who
- 16:16Speaker 1: hired me at the Post Fred Hyatt. Now, Fred and
- 16:18Speaker 1: I probably agreed only about twenty five percent of the time,
- 16:22Speaker 1: but he was the most civil individual I think I've met,
- 16:25Speaker 1: at least the equal of any civil individual in Washington, DC.
- 16:29Speaker 1: It's a tragedy when he died young, but boy did
- 16:32Speaker 1: he try and make the pages balance, fair, equitable, and curious,
- 16:37Speaker 1: intelligible to all. He really is the personification from the
- 16:41Speaker 1: media world of the Civility Handbook. I agree with that
- 16:44Speaker 1: Fred was.
- 16:45Speaker 3: He was, for all the reasons you mentioned, a wonderful person,
- 16:48Speaker 3: and I was one of the things I was happy
- 16:50Speaker 3: was he was able to recruit you to be on
- 16:52Speaker 3: the team there.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one lesson that I learned from
- 16:55Speaker 2: Fred Hyatt.
- 16:56Speaker 3: I try to apply and I think we could probably
- 16:58Speaker 3: in the next edition of the Civil Handbook we could
- 17:01Speaker 3: add this. He said, when you're critiquing somebody, and you're
- 17:04Speaker 3: debating somebody and you're criticizing them, criticize their strongest argument.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Don't find the weakest point and go after that because
- 17:13Speaker 3: that's easy. But pick the strongest one and critique that
- 17:17Speaker 3: and base your opinion on that. And I think that's
- 17:19Speaker 3: you know, I think a lot of us could learn
- 17:21Speaker 3: from that, you look at a lot of some of
- 17:23Speaker 3: the extreme patific sites on the platforms and even some
- 17:27Speaker 3: of the very opinionated cable channels, and you hear them
- 17:30Speaker 3: taking on criticizing an opponent, but they're picking the weakest,
- 17:35Speaker 3: lightest part of their argument, when I think all of
- 17:38Speaker 3: us will be more persuaded if they took on the
- 17:40Speaker 3: strongest part.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Of their argument, mowing down strong man, I call that.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Before I go back to the specific, how do people
- 17:46Speaker 1: get the Cibility Handbook, Fred, I want to make sure
- 17:48Speaker 1: people know they can get it.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Well you, thank you. It's available. It's free.
- 17:54Speaker 3: We made available through Civilityhandbook dot Com. We've had in
- 17:58Speaker 3: the last week, we've had over ten thousand requests for it.
- 18:02Speaker 3: They told me if it was a commercial book, it
- 18:04Speaker 3: would be a New York Times bestseller, but it's if
- 18:07Speaker 3: people go to Civilityhandbook dot Com, we will send it
- 18:10Speaker 3: to them. And we've had teachers reach out to us
- 18:12Speaker 3: asking for fifty copies for the students in their classrooms.
- 18:15Speaker 3: We've had universities asking for it. So that's the way
- 18:18Speaker 3: they get it Civilityhandbook dot Com. And they can also
- 18:21Speaker 3: get the digital version. So we will mail them this
- 18:24Speaker 3: a hard copy, but they can also get a digital
- 18:26Speaker 3: footbook they can see online.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Maybe even do it over the fourth of July weekend.
- 18:31Speaker 1: It would be great to have it in your desk
- 18:32Speaker 1: at school and pill pull it out and just go
- 18:35Speaker 1: to chapter seven Distinguish Facts from Opinion, and then chapter
- 18:39Speaker 1: thirteen social Media. So let's talk about distinguishing facts from opinion,
- 18:43Speaker 1: especially on social media. Fred, we got one minute left
- 18:46Speaker 1: to talk about the Civility Handbook.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Well, I mean you've nailed it there, you. I mean
- 18:51Speaker 2: social media.
- 18:52Speaker 3: More than half Americans say they get some of their
- 18:55Speaker 3: news from social media. And if you think about it,
- 18:57Speaker 3: social media has no journalists, they have no newsroom, they
- 19:00Speaker 3: have no editors, no fact checkers, and people are getting
- 19:02Speaker 3: their news they're forming opinions based on that. So it's
- 19:05Speaker 3: important to go to trusted sources, people like you, who
- 19:08Speaker 3: they know, do their homework and do their research, and
- 19:10Speaker 3: they can get the information firsthand and not rely on
- 19:14Speaker 3: social media where there's so much disinformation.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Fred, congratulations you and the Center on Civility and Democracy
- 19:20Speaker 1: at the Reagan Foundation. Remember Stabilityhandbook dot com. Get it
- 19:25Speaker 1: for yourself, get it for your clous welcome back to
- 19:28Speaker 1: America and to do it. Jonathan Williams is with us
- 19:31Speaker 1: from our sponsor, the American Legislative Exchange Council ALEC dot org. Jonathan,
- 19:37Speaker 1: I want to get the jobs numbers. I want to
- 19:39Speaker 1: get to South Carolina, but I want to start with
- 19:41Speaker 1: the fact that ALEC is celebrating our two hundred and
- 19:43Speaker 1: fiftieth in a special way because you put together a
- 19:47Speaker 1: curriculum for the states on American civics. Has anyone picked
- 19:51Speaker 1: it up yet, Well, they certainly have it.
- 19:55Speaker 5: They get started in West Virginia with our great friend
- 19:57Speaker 5: Senator Patricia Rucker, who's been on the show many times
- 20:00Speaker 5: with you, Hugh, and our whole ALEX State's fifty ALEX
- 20:04Speaker 5: two fifty initiative. This year has just been an incredible
- 20:07Speaker 5: opportunity to just remind everybody of an incredible opportunity we
- 20:11Speaker 5: have this year to go back and even read the
- 20:14Speaker 5: founding documents.
- 20:15Speaker 6: Hugh.
- 20:15Speaker 5: This is something that we've talked about everywhere we've gone,
- 20:18Speaker 5: is if you haven't spent the number of minutes that
- 20:20Speaker 5: it takes to go and reread the Declaration of Independence
- 20:23Speaker 5: and get inside what the founders were thinking.
- 20:26Speaker 1: If we can't do it now?
- 20:27Speaker 5: When are we going to do it? Hugh right, and so,
- 20:29Speaker 5: whether it's the Civics education piece where we're having our
- 20:32Speaker 5: legislators go and make sure that that is being taught
- 20:35Speaker 5: properly with the original documents in public education. We have
- 20:38Speaker 5: a great Alec model resolution that states are introducing to
- 20:42Speaker 5: commemorate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary as a country.
- 20:45Speaker 5: But it's at the end of the day, this comes
- 20:47Speaker 5: down to families and parents prioritizing us to say freedom
- 20:52Speaker 5: is never more than one generation away from extinction. As
- 20:55Speaker 5: Reagan reminded us, it has to be fought for us,
- 20:57Speaker 5: not passed down into bloodline. So this is what an
- 20:59Speaker 5: opportunity we have this week at America two fifty.
- 21:03Speaker 1: I began the show today with the declaration, Jonathan, but
- 21:05Speaker 1: I can't pronounce consan winning a team very well, so
- 21:08Speaker 1: I hope people practice that before they read the declaration.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Let's go to the job numbers today. Fifty thousand jobs
- 21:16Speaker 1: created in June. April job numbers were advised up two
- 21:20Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven. March job numbers were up to
- 21:22Speaker 1: two hundred and two thousand. Wages are up three point
- 21:26Speaker 1: four percent. Year over year unemployment still low at four
- 21:29Speaker 1: point three. Do we expect the number to be revised
- 21:32Speaker 1: upward again like the last two months.
- 21:35Speaker 5: You know, that's a little bit of an aberration, as
- 21:37Speaker 5: you know, Hugh. I mean, we spent several years during
- 21:40Speaker 5: the Biden years seeing these major numbers on the headline
- 21:44Speaker 5: and then downward revisions every single time. So this is
- 21:47Speaker 5: a great, great change of pace when it comes to
- 21:50Speaker 5: upward revisions. I think it just you rattled off all
- 21:53Speaker 5: of those great statistics. I mean, obviously the piece on
- 21:56Speaker 5: gas prices in inflation higher than people would like, even
- 22:00Speaker 5: though they're starting to come down, especially here in Northern
- 22:02Speaker 5: Virginia in recent weeks. But I'll tell you this economy
- 22:06Speaker 5: is resilient and a lot of those fundamentals are strong.
- 22:08Speaker 5: And one of the reasons why I think that is
- 22:10Speaker 5: and I think you do too, is here we are
- 22:13Speaker 5: one year later after the one big beautiful bill, the
- 22:16Speaker 5: Working Families Tax Cut Act, was signed into law and
- 22:20Speaker 5: just the permanency of the tax for the first time
- 22:23Speaker 5: in recent memory, those expensing provisions for businesses, the lower
- 22:28Speaker 5: burdens and the lower ability of individuals how to have
- 22:31Speaker 5: more take home pay after the lower burdens, that all
- 22:35Speaker 5: is coming back to roost when it comes to these
- 22:37Speaker 5: strong economic numbers, even with everything else going on around
- 22:40Speaker 5: the world.
- 22:40Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Just all of those things you just talked about.
- 22:44Speaker 1: And oiled down to sixty eight dollars and forty five
- 22:46Speaker 1: cents a barrel as we speak. One big beautiful tax
- 22:50Speaker 1: built did in fact pass one year ago today, the
- 22:53Speaker 1: average tax saving for American thirty eight hundred dollars, more
- 22:56Speaker 1: than thirty eight hundred dollars. That's an increased standard induction
- 23:00Speaker 1: or for Bill. So I think a lot's going to
- 23:02Speaker 1: come together, John, including deregulation. That's not on our agenda
- 23:06Speaker 1: for today, but I have to think that the myriad
- 23:09Speaker 1: number of regulations that have been cut a resulting tens
- 23:12Speaker 1: of thousands of Americans doing things they otherwise would not
- 23:15Speaker 1: have been able to do. This year. Then when Donald
- 23:19Speaker 1: Trump returned to office and that's freeing up the economy,
- 23:23Speaker 1: well there's no doubt.
- 23:24Speaker 5: And you add what was being done at oirad Omb
- 23:27Speaker 5: right now. I'm just they've taken the first Trump administration's
- 23:31Speaker 5: efforts on deregulation and they've supercharged them in Trump two here,
- 23:35Speaker 5: and that's just been incredible. But I mean the other
- 23:37Speaker 5: things that people forget about often of the one big
- 23:39Speaker 5: beautiful bill is the massive amount of education choice that
- 23:43Speaker 5: was included in it with the federal education tax credit, scholarship,
- 23:47Speaker 5: the expansion of those popular five two nine plans, just
- 23:50Speaker 5: all kinds of benefits that fly under the radar of
- 23:53Speaker 5: the mainstream media as always.
- 23:55Speaker 1: Now, I had the bank Ramaswami on yesterday. He was
- 23:58Speaker 1: telling me his platform for a while. I think he's
- 24:00Speaker 1: going to win. He wants to become Texas Tennessee, in
- 24:03Speaker 1: Florida North. He didn't add South Carolina. Should he be
- 24:07Speaker 1: adding South Carolina to his objective for modeling. They got
- 24:10Speaker 1: down to a two point five percent flat tax. He
- 24:12Speaker 1: was the first guy to say that. But they got
- 24:14Speaker 1: a way to go. One minute. What's so great about
- 24:16Speaker 1: South Carolina?
- 24:18Speaker 5: Well, I was with them at the White House this
- 24:20Speaker 5: week you and it just happened that Governor McMasters signed
- 24:23Speaker 5: into law their massive red tape production and deregulation bill
- 24:28Speaker 5: that our great friends there, Speaker Smith and others have
- 24:30Speaker 5: been working on. It includes rains as Ax style reform,
- 24:35Speaker 5: Chevron deference, and of course add that to the tax
- 24:38Speaker 5: cuts I'm moving towards a one point nine to nine
- 24:41Speaker 5: percent flat tax, as well as a total elimination of
- 24:44Speaker 5: the personal income.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Tax that was already passed. And you add that to
- 24:48Speaker 1: just the amazing in migration.
- 24:49Speaker 5: That South Carolina has seen, even beating Florida in raw
- 24:52Speaker 5: numbers in this last year. I'm very bullish on the
- 24:55Speaker 5: future of South Carolina, especially if they keep down this trajectory.
- 24:59Speaker 1: I think Allan Wilson, we'll do that. But we got
- 25:01Speaker 1: to watch the Ohio South Carolina competition in New Year ahead, Jonathan,
- 25:05Speaker 1: I think the Buckeye State will win. Have a great
- 25:08Speaker 1: turn and fiftieth fourth, Jonathan, It's always a pleasure working
- 25:11Speaker 1: with you and all my friend at ALEX, the American
- 25:14Speaker 1: Legislative Exchange Council. Go to ALEC dot org and come
- 25:17Speaker 1: see us in Florida. In Orlando July twenty seconds to
- 25:21Speaker 1: twenty fourth, I'll be broadcasting live are station Quarterback of America.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by the editor in chief
- 25:35Speaker 1: of the Washington Free Beacon. Usual participant in the commentary
- 25:39Speaker 1: podcast Eleanna Johnson follow on Exit Eleana Y Johnson listened
- 25:43Speaker 1: to on the commentary podcast Eleana Happy turning fiftieth to
- 25:47Speaker 1: you and yours. Before we get there, let me read
- 25:49Speaker 1: you six names. Daria Lisa Ela Chevalier, New York, Adam Hamawi,
- 25:56Speaker 1: New Jersey, melt Tiros, Colorado, Land. You're in New York,
- 26:01Speaker 1: Clara val Daz, New York. Scott Wiener, California. Those are
- 26:05Speaker 1: six new Marxists. There are other fifteen Marxists already, or
- 26:09Speaker 1: nine other Marxists in Congress. What happens if we have
- 26:12Speaker 1: fifteen Marxists in the Democratic Congress and they're in the majority, Well.
- 26:19Speaker 7: Hugh, I think we've already seen the squad have an
- 26:21Speaker 7: outsize impact. You know, we saw must be in twenty eighteen,
- 26:27Speaker 7: twenty nineteen, the House would not pass the resolution to
- 26:31Speaker 7: condemn anti Semitism because of Ilhan Omar's protest.
- 26:35Speaker 8: Now we have a new squad that we can call
- 26:38Speaker 8: the cell.
- 26:40Speaker 7: These are al Qaeda friendly, to say the least, folks
- 26:46Speaker 7: on their way in and they're going to be an
- 26:48Speaker 7: enormous headache for Hakeem Jeffries when if the Democrats take
- 26:52Speaker 7: the House, and even if they don't, they are expanding
- 26:55Speaker 7: their footprint and certainly socialists and Marxists, our ascendant in
- 27:00Speaker 7: the Democratic Party. They have proven this is where the
- 27:03Speaker 7: energy is in the Democratic base.
- 27:05Speaker 8: They can win in blue districts.
- 27:08Speaker 7: I think the question that remains, Hugh, is in statewide
- 27:12Speaker 7: elections in Maine where Graham Platner is running with the
- 27:16Speaker 7: ESA backing, in Michigan where Abdul l Sayed is running
- 27:20Speaker 7: with the ESA backing, and these far left wing candidates
- 27:23Speaker 7: are trying to win in swing states.
- 27:25Speaker 8: Can they take this revolution statewide?
- 27:28Speaker 1: So Ellie, if you're Mike Johnson or the National Republican
- 27:31Speaker 1: Congressional Committee, or you're Johnthone and the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
- 27:36Speaker 1: do you try and nationalize this election around the Democratic
- 27:40Speaker 1: Marxists because that's what they are. Tom Cotton made that
- 27:43Speaker 1: point yesterday. Democrats are being taken over by Marxists. We've
- 27:46Speaker 1: never seen this in America before we actually turned fifty years,
- 27:50Speaker 1: We've never had a Marxist party that was serious.
- 27:52Speaker 7: Now we do, right Well, you know, Hugh, every Republican
- 27:58Speaker 7: was asked to account for every last thing Donald Trump said,
- 28:01Speaker 7: and I think something similar should be asked of these
- 28:04Speaker 7: Democrats in terms of what their star.
- 28:07Speaker 8: Candidates are saying.
- 28:09Speaker 7: And one thing that's striking is we haven't seen Democratic
- 28:13Speaker 7: leaders disavow the most controversial anti American things that these
- 28:19Speaker 7: candidates have said.
- 28:20Speaker 8: In fact, we've seen the opposite.
- 28:21Speaker 7: We've seen Hakeem Jeffries come out and congratulate these candidates
- 28:25Speaker 7: on their victories. And we've seen Chuck Schumer come out
- 28:28Speaker 7: and say the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee is happy to
- 28:32Speaker 7: support Graham Plattner and presumably whoever wins the Michigan primary
- 28:37Speaker 7: in their races. So we've gotten silence from Democratic leadership
- 28:42Speaker 7: who are afraid of.
- 28:43Speaker 8: These people and presumably preparing to be steamrolled by them
- 28:47Speaker 8: if they win.
- 28:49Speaker 1: I do want to say a good word for Adam Smith.
- 28:51Speaker 1: He's a Democrat from Washington state chairman, actually ranking minority
- 28:54Speaker 1: member of House Armed Services. He's very upset about the
- 28:58Speaker 1: march of the Marxist and he talks bluntly about it.
- 29:01Speaker 1: John Fetterman talks bluntly about it. But that's not enough.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Do you think it's a winning strategy for Republicans to
- 29:08Speaker 1: just say these are Marxists, they will destroy our economy,
- 29:11Speaker 1: in our way of life, and your civil liberties.
- 29:16Speaker 8: Well, I think it's a winning strategy.
- 29:18Speaker 7: Strategy to make clear what these people believe in which
- 29:21Speaker 7: I don't think are views that are popular with the
- 29:24Speaker 7: broad middle of the electorate, which are no borders, no police,
- 29:29Speaker 7: and vile hatred for America. We're about to celebrate our
- 29:33Speaker 7: great inheritance, the country's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and
- 29:37Speaker 7: these are people who openly sneer at our inheritance and
- 29:43Speaker 7: hate this country.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Only in your home state, Peggy Flanning in as he
- 29:48Speaker 1: head lieutenant governor, She's probably going to be the nominee
- 29:52Speaker 1: along with Lsaiad. Those are August primaries in Michigan and Minnesota, respectively.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Are people talking about First Principles in Minnesota? I mean,
- 30:00Speaker 1: are they really Peggy Flanagan as a Marxist? Do people
- 30:02Speaker 1: talk about that? Oh?
- 30:06Speaker 7: Hugh, I have to say Minnesota has long been a
- 30:09Speaker 7: lost cause. As we've seen Republicans win in Wisconsin, in Iowa,
- 30:15Speaker 7: in Michigan, all of the surrounding states.
- 30:18Speaker 8: Minnesota, with its long history of a DFL.
- 30:21Speaker 7: Party, is one of the only states where the Democrats
- 30:25Speaker 7: have continued to hang on. We'll see if twenty twenty
- 30:29Speaker 7: six is the year that changes.
- 30:31Speaker 1: All right, this would never fly with my generation or
- 30:34Speaker 1: your father's generation. What about your generator? Are they the
- 30:37Speaker 1: youngs are droving Kiros in Denver? The people are under thirty.
- 30:41Speaker 1: What about your generation, which are ten to fifteen years
- 30:44Speaker 1: older than them, Are they rejecting Marxism? Is it just
- 30:47Speaker 1: the thirty and under?
- 30:50Speaker 7: I think where we really see this is kind of
- 30:52Speaker 7: the eighteen to thirty four generation in both parties. Frankly,
- 30:57Speaker 7: you know there's a meeting of the minds on the
- 30:58Speaker 7: far left and the far right. And I have to
- 31:00Speaker 7: say you, I think the kids under eighteen who experienced
- 31:04Speaker 7: the long reach of government during COVID have better heads
- 31:08Speaker 7: on their shoulders than do the generation just above them,
- 31:11Speaker 7: the Darya Liza Chevalier generation who have been in college
- 31:16Speaker 7: in grad school for fifteen years or whatever she has been.
- 31:20Speaker 7: But I have a sense that the generation coming up
- 31:23Speaker 7: out of college right now or in high school right
- 31:26Speaker 7: now have a better view on the world and more
- 31:30Speaker 7: since than our current crop of political candidates twenty somethings
- 31:34Speaker 7: and early thirty somethings, the Zoron Mom Donnie generation.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Last question, a Leana, I know you're busy and you've
- 31:41Speaker 1: got a lot of reporters to send to a lot
- 31:43Speaker 1: of places. Has anyone figured out what Daria Liza the
- 31:46Speaker 1: Ila Chevalier has been doing for fifteen years. I mean
- 31:49Speaker 1: I've known some PhD students who took seven even eight
- 31:52Speaker 1: years they were grad students. They lived in three people apartments.
- 31:58Speaker 1: What has she been doing for fourteen years? How do
- 32:01Speaker 1: you live for fourteen years as a grad student?
- 32:05Speaker 8: Well, the Free Beacons.
- 32:06Speaker 7: I think she's been eight or nine years in grad
- 32:08Speaker 7: school after of course doing her undergraduate studies at Columbia
- 32:12Speaker 7: and spending some time to date the al Qaeda lawyer
- 32:15Speaker 7: who's working for Zorn mom Donnie went right into the
- 32:18Speaker 7: mom Donnie administration, both of them Columbia graduates.
- 32:21Speaker 8: But the Free Beacons.
- 32:23Speaker 7: John Levine did a wonderful story on the classes that
- 32:26Speaker 7: she's teaching at CuNi.
- 32:27Speaker 8: Where she is a graduate student, on you.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Know, intersectionality of intersectionality.
- 32:34Speaker 7: Intersectionality words you can't pronounce. So I think that's how
- 32:37Speaker 7: she's been spending most of her time, as well as
- 32:40Speaker 7: attending rallies on October eighth, twenty twenty three, where she's
- 32:43Speaker 7: cheering on the Hamas invasion of Israel.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Boy, are the Democrats in for a root awakening? When
- 32:50Speaker 1: these people a right, they'll win. They're in deep blue
- 32:52Speaker 1: Democratic giftrict. They won the nomination with less than twenty
- 32:55Speaker 1: percent of registered Democrats, but they're going to congression. Wow,
- 33:00Speaker 1: Eleana Johnson, you have a terrific Jordan and fiftieth for
- 33:04Speaker 1: Eleana Y. Johnson on Xtreebeacon dot com and the commentary
- 33:09Speaker 1: podcast I'm Here Hewett joined by Ben Domini. She is
- 33:12Speaker 1: the opinion editor at The Daily Wire, Fox News contributor,
- 33:16Speaker 1: host of the Big Ben podcast, and friend of the
- 33:18Speaker 1: program Ben. I got a lot to cover with you,
- 33:21Speaker 1: but I want to start with the red Card. Last night,
- 33:24Speaker 1: I did not watch it live. I was watching it
- 33:27Speaker 1: online because there were twenty people in my basement and
- 33:30Speaker 1: I can't stand that much noise. So tell me what
- 33:34Speaker 1: you thought when it happened.
- 33:37Speaker 9: So, Hugh, I was watching it live, and I was
- 33:41Speaker 9: watching it home by myself, and I yelled loudly enough.
- 33:46Speaker 9: My wife said client.
- 33:49Speaker 1: And she'd like me upstairs hearing the mob.
- 33:53Speaker 9: As you might expect, what I yelled is not appropriate
- 33:57Speaker 9: for your airways, so immediately my phone blew up with
- 34:02Speaker 9: I actually have a number of friends, including one of
- 34:06Speaker 9: my best friends, Vanessa Santos, who is within the DC sphere,
- 34:12Speaker 9: who is a former soccer, quite accomplished soccer player herself,
- 34:16Speaker 9: and the text chains immediately fired up of this is obscene,
- 34:21Speaker 9: this is ridiculous. Everybody's learning now how corrupt FIFA is,
- 34:26Speaker 9: you know, and that kind of thing. I've never that.
- 34:30Speaker 9: It's such a blatant non call. It is so bad.
- 34:34Speaker 1: And the fact that they.
- 34:35Speaker 9: Made it is going to make this next game, this
- 34:38Speaker 9: next match, So it's going to be difficult. But let's
- 34:42Speaker 9: hope that they play with even even more spirit. But
- 34:46Speaker 9: it was great to see them perform a man down
- 34:48Speaker 9: and look, you know, we know from Henry that's bet
- 34:51Speaker 9: the fewer men in the greater share of honor.
- 34:53Speaker 1: So why I saw you post that? But now my
- 34:55Speaker 1: Division three playing daughter in law tells me soccer reps
- 35:00Speaker 1: are not like football reppers. They don't make good. They
- 35:04Speaker 1: don't know when they blow one in an NFL game
- 35:07Speaker 1: you can normally count on to make good. Do you
- 35:09Speaker 1: take that what carry over into the FIFA world?
- 35:13Speaker 9: I do not think it will And d crecch She's
- 35:17Speaker 9: completely correct, they do not do that. And and frankly,
- 35:21Speaker 9: I actually appreciate that a little bit about the NFL
- 35:23Speaker 9: because at least in the days before we had the
- 35:26Speaker 9: kind of review that was possible from the NFL headquarters.
- 35:30Speaker 3: Uh.
- 35:30Speaker 9: You know, I think that there's so many calls over
- 35:32Speaker 9: the years where they were just like, ah, we screwed
- 35:34Speaker 9: that one up, and then you know you might get
- 35:36Speaker 9: one later on or at least argue one that was
- 35:39Speaker 9: that was iffy in this situation, I don't I think
- 35:43Speaker 9: that this. Look, the one thing that FIFA needs to
- 35:45Speaker 9: understand is this is the kind of thing that can
- 35:49Speaker 9: determine whether an enormous number of American potential fans become
- 35:53Speaker 9: invested in your sport or not. One of the things
- 35:56Speaker 9: that I mean, we still remember some of those calls
- 35:59Speaker 9: you know that.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Had been made nineteen seventy two Olympic Basketball.
- 36:02Speaker 9: Game, Yes, and that you know, absolution refs that the
- 36:06Speaker 9: complaints from the Cowboys and the complaints from the Seahawks
- 36:11Speaker 9: in that Packers game, that the whole like, we remember
- 36:14Speaker 9: these calls and the NFL works to fix them. In CIFA,
- 36:18Speaker 9: nothing like that really happens.
- 36:20Speaker 1: You know what the analogy is, Ben, It's what's happening
- 36:23Speaker 1: to Caitlin Clark. The w NBA is going to destroy
- 36:26Speaker 1: itself if they don't stop that, and faith is going
- 36:30Speaker 1: to blow up a chance.
- 36:31Speaker 9: I have to say something too, who knew the w
- 36:34Speaker 9: NBA had a potential? It caused a massive race war there? Yeah,
- 36:38Speaker 9: where did that come from? Who did that on their
- 36:40Speaker 9: big o card? I just I mean, you know, the
- 36:42Speaker 9: colcling market on that had to be low. The thing,
- 36:45Speaker 9: the stuff with Caitlyn Clark is absolutely ridiculous and it's
- 36:48Speaker 9: and it's offensive. And what's more, I think this is
- 36:53Speaker 9: really a scenario where they have a star who is
- 36:56Speaker 9: so big that if she wanted to leave that league
- 36:59Speaker 9: there would there would be massive repercussions for them, and
- 37:02Speaker 9: they need to I think they're planning with more fire
- 37:05Speaker 9: than they actually I.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Think she had assignment that Cavaliers could use her in
- 37:09Speaker 1: third point range. Man second story on my not yet
- 37:13Speaker 1: important story, Lebron back to clevelanders are going to be
- 37:16Speaker 1: a Warrior, which would disappoint all of Ohio forever.
- 37:21Speaker 9: If he decides to go to the Warriors, it would
- 37:23Speaker 9: be not just a disappointing thing for Ohio, I think
- 37:25Speaker 9: it would be a disappointing thing for all of us
- 37:27Speaker 9: who are fans of sport. Like I mean, this is
- 37:30Speaker 9: not that type of decision, is it is Craven and
- 37:36Speaker 9: it is you know, it is at odds with the
- 37:39Speaker 9: kind of narrative that he should want at this point
- 37:42Speaker 9: in his career about himself. And I think that if
- 37:46Speaker 9: he decides to do that, I think he will be
- 37:48Speaker 9: judged for it and it will be thought of as
- 37:50Speaker 9: a major, major mistake at the end of his career.
- 37:54Speaker 9: He needs to go back to Cleveland. That is, That
- 37:56Speaker 9: is the story that makes sense. It's the arc that
- 37:59Speaker 9: makes sense. And for a guy who's concerned about his image,
- 38:01Speaker 9: it shouldn't even be a question.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Yeah, Cleveland is blessed with Jose Ramirez is the classiest
- 38:06Speaker 1: guy in American baseball. Doesn't speak English very well, doesn't
- 38:10Speaker 1: answer in English, but he committed to Cleveland. He stays
- 38:12Speaker 1: in Cleveland, takes half the money to stay in Cleveland.
- 38:15Speaker 1: I wish professional athletes and understand when you commit to
- 38:18Speaker 1: a city, they commit to you in ways that you'll
- 38:20Speaker 1: never underappreciate. You'll always be appreciated.
- 38:24Speaker 9: Especially stars, especially stars who you know, in this day
- 38:27Speaker 9: and age, are going to make more money when they're
- 38:30Speaker 9: not playing than they do when they're actually playing. They're
- 38:33Speaker 9: going to make more money from endorsements, from from everything
- 38:36Speaker 9: that comes after from everything that's going on simultaneously. And
- 38:39Speaker 9: that's and that's just the honest, god truth. Now, I
- 38:42Speaker 9: think in Lebron's case, he's made all the money, he's
- 38:44Speaker 9: got the rings, he's got everything. Finish the story, right,
- 38:48Speaker 9: don't do don't make the mistakes that you know, time
- 38:50Speaker 9: and again we've seen old quarterbacks make or something like that,
- 38:53Speaker 9: going to a franchise that makes no sense, you know,
- 38:56Speaker 9: just you know, seeking another payday, as so many NBA
- 38:59Speaker 9: players have done over the years. Look, he's got to
- 39:02Speaker 9: go back. And I think that it's important enough, you know,
- 39:05Speaker 9: as you know my conspiracy theories about the NBA. I
- 39:08Speaker 9: think it's important enough that the NBA needs to need
- 39:11Speaker 9: to whatever they can to make sure.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you the basketball problem. And Terry
- 39:16Speaker 1: Pluto is the finest sports writer in Ohio, and he
- 39:18Speaker 1: was doing this podcast on this he said, Okay, it's
- 39:21Speaker 1: the end of the game. You've got three Hall of
- 39:23Speaker 1: famers Donovan Mitchell, James Harden, and Lebron James. They all
- 39:26Speaker 1: think they had to take over the game. Meanwhile, Jarrett
- 39:29Speaker 1: Alan and Evin Membley don't think they're a slouch either.
- 39:32Speaker 1: How do you manage the minutes and the end of
- 39:34Speaker 1: the game, even if Lebron is self sacrificing, can you
- 39:37Speaker 1: really run a team with three Hall of Famers.
- 39:40Speaker 9: I think that's going to be the test. But I
- 39:42Speaker 9: think that you got to try. And I mean, you know,
- 39:43Speaker 9: if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. But
- 39:46Speaker 9: you know, again, look, I know the Warriors and then Windhorse,
- 39:50Speaker 9: you know over at ESPN, you know it was on this.
- 39:52Speaker 9: You know from the get go. The Warriors moved, you know,
- 39:55Speaker 9: you know, in terms of their in their own cap
- 39:57Speaker 9: situation to make some room for this. So clearly they
- 40:01Speaker 9: think they have an opportunity. Clearly they wanted those jersey sales.
- 40:05Speaker 9: But we can't let this happen. It's not I mean,
- 40:08Speaker 9: it's bad. It's bad for the NBA, it's bad for
- 40:11Speaker 9: fandom to see someone like that have the ability to
- 40:14Speaker 9: go back to his hometown, be on a competitive team,
- 40:17Speaker 9: you know, write a great end to his story, and
- 40:19Speaker 9: instead choose now, I'm going to go to somebody, you know,
- 40:22Speaker 9: go to a team that is Steph Curry's team, that
- 40:25Speaker 9: is absolutely Stefph Curry's team, and we'll be remembered as such.
- 40:28Speaker 9: That's not the way you should go out, though, I
- 40:30Speaker 9: will say credit Lebron Dad of the Year for waiting
- 40:34Speaker 9: until his son's yes contracted to announce this.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Next question fiftieth. I began the show by reading the declaration.
- 40:45Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not in DC for the summer. I
- 40:48Speaker 1: go to both coach because I can't stand it. So
- 40:50Speaker 1: I am been to the Great American State Fair.
- 40:52Speaker 9: For you been down there seven degrees here today?
- 40:54Speaker 1: Oh gosh that people ask me why I've got asthma,
- 40:59Speaker 1: and I just I'm I'm too old to deal with that.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Have you been down to the Great American State Fair?
- 41:03Speaker 1: Is it fun?
- 41:05Speaker 7: So?
- 41:05Speaker 9: I have been down there multiple times. I've done some
- 41:07Speaker 9: Fox hits from there, and I've walked around a bit.
- 41:10Speaker 9: I got to be honest with you, Hugh, I think
- 41:12Speaker 9: this could have been a lot better. And the reason
- 41:14Speaker 9: that I say that is I think that what happened
- 41:17Speaker 9: a little bit was this is it actually looks great
- 41:20Speaker 9: and there's a lot more people. People on the liberal
- 41:23Speaker 9: networks are like, oh, there aren't people that know. There's
- 41:25Speaker 9: actually tons of people around, and there's tons of tourists,
- 41:28Speaker 9: which is good, and a lot of tourists actually are
- 41:31Speaker 9: going to the rodeo which is an impressive scene, you know,
- 41:33Speaker 9: right there in front of the Jefferson Memorial. You know,
- 41:36Speaker 9: there's plenty of folks down there. The thing that I
- 41:39Speaker 9: think is kind of the major botch of this is
- 41:41Speaker 9: actually something that almost no one is talking about. The
- 41:44Speaker 9: food's bad. The food is not impressive, and I wish
- 41:49Speaker 9: that they had had like import whoever is at the
- 41:52Speaker 9: Iowa State Fair, the Texas State Fair, the food as
- 41:55Speaker 9: you know at state fairs, Oh, the.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Minnesota State Fair. I broadcast from a dozen times French
- 42:01Speaker 1: fried chocolate, chip, cookies, butter everything. It's fabulous.
- 42:06Speaker 9: Like you needed to have like a major investment in
- 42:09Speaker 9: that side. It's totally absent from that. And that is
- 42:12Speaker 9: a criticism from my perspective, because it would have been
- 42:14Speaker 9: an opportunity to kind of have a shmartest board of
- 42:16Speaker 9: like the most amazing, ridiculous, over the top fried snickers.
- 42:20Speaker 9: You know, whatever you want to get is kind of
- 42:21Speaker 9: thing that only exists at these state fairs. Show it off,
- 42:25Speaker 9: you know, have fun with that, and I think that
- 42:27Speaker 9: that's something that just was a miss. It has been
- 42:31Speaker 9: very hot, which they can't control. I suggested to the
- 42:33Speaker 9: Agricultural Secretary yesterday, who had ran into brook rawlins that
- 42:37Speaker 9: they really should have just put a tent over the
- 42:39Speaker 9: middle of that, over the green park, even if it
- 42:41Speaker 9: was visually less impressive, just because there's a lot of
- 42:44Speaker 9: moms pushing around babies and strollers in you know, ninety
- 42:49Speaker 9: seven degree hundred.
- 42:50Speaker 1: It's really one hundred and seven today, it's not really Yea.
- 42:53Speaker 3: It peaked.
- 42:54Speaker 9: It peaked at one hundred and seven today. It was
- 42:56Speaker 9: one hundred and two last time I checked. So the
- 42:58Speaker 9: thing that is that is very, very troublesome about it
- 43:02Speaker 9: is that, like there's a lot of families who are
- 43:05Speaker 9: here who quite frankly, are just not out there on
- 43:07Speaker 9: the field on the mall because they're going to the
- 43:10Speaker 9: museums because the museums have air conditions. It's also good,
- 43:13Speaker 9: Like that's good. You know, they're coming to DC and
- 43:15Speaker 9: they're seeing the stuff that they should be able to see,
- 43:17Speaker 9: and some of the stuff that's in there is incredibly impressive.
- 43:20Speaker 9: You know, there's collections that they brought together, the National
- 43:22Speaker 9: Gallery of Art, everything else like that. It's really good.
- 43:25Speaker 1: All right, I'm ben going to stick around for the
- 43:27Speaker 1: next two segments Off air, We're going to talk about
- 43:29Speaker 1: zoron Mondani and what he has unleashed. And then on
- 43:32Speaker 1: the other side, we're going to talk about the march
- 43:33Speaker 1: of the Marxist from East to West, and what's going
- 43:36Speaker 1: to happen to the Democrats and how later soon and
- 43:39Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson ought to organize the NRCC and the NRSC
- 43:44Speaker 1: to come back the March of Marxism and the Democrats.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'm back with Ben Dominic's during the break
- 43:50Speaker 1: and after the break, Ben, I'll run through the names
- 43:52Speaker 1: for the audience of the Marxists who are running in
- 43:54Speaker 1: the Senate and the House. They're going to have a
- 43:56Speaker 1: crazy problem on their hand. But I want to zero
- 43:59Speaker 1: in on Zoron. I'm Donni for a moment. Yesterday he
- 44:01Speaker 1: told New Yorkers to keep their thermostat at seventy eight.
- 44:04Speaker 1: That's so Stalinist. I mean, he didn't demand that the
- 44:07Speaker 1: secret place aren't coming it, but it's central control. What
- 44:10Speaker 1: is he going to be a disaster like they think
- 44:13Speaker 1: he's going to be. I think it's going to be
- 44:14Speaker 1: an utter fiasco.
- 44:16Speaker 9: Well, the thing with Donnie, of course, is that he's
- 44:19Speaker 9: already played this game with the deferred payments on pensions
- 44:23Speaker 9: to maintain that he's fixed the budget problem that he's
- 44:26Speaker 9: actually only made worse. I think that there's going to
- 44:28Speaker 9: be a lot of slight of hand here. But I
- 44:30Speaker 9: think that one of the things about that seventy eight
- 44:32Speaker 9: degree thing which is interesting is that the socialists, you know,
- 44:36Speaker 9: they're not sending the secret police yet, but they're using
- 44:39Speaker 9: public shaming. What does that feel like, you, Hugh to me,
- 44:43Speaker 9: it feels like this is a lesson they took from COVID.
- 44:47Speaker 9: This is a lesson that they took from the experience
- 44:50Speaker 9: of forcing people to wear masks and basically using the
- 44:54Speaker 9: power of individual Americans screaming at each other in order
- 44:59Speaker 9: to achieve a love of legal enforcement that they couldn't
- 45:02Speaker 9: do under the law. You know that they essentially created
- 45:05Speaker 9: a circumstance where, well, if you didn't set your thermostat
- 45:08Speaker 9: to seventy eight degrees, you know, you know, I visited
- 45:12Speaker 9: my friend the other day and his thermostat was at
- 45:14Speaker 9: sixty nine. He's a horrible person, now, you know that
- 45:17Speaker 9: kind of thing. And I think that what they're counting
- 45:19Speaker 9: on is this climate that existed during COVID, where you
- 45:24Speaker 9: know that was furthered quite frankly by a lot of
- 45:27Speaker 9: I believe villainous members of our media, you know, who
- 45:30Speaker 9: turned this into a you know, kind of a morality
- 45:34Speaker 9: play of if you aren't doing everything that we say
- 45:36Speaker 9: at this particular moment, you know, on the latest CNN update,
- 45:41Speaker 9: then you are killing grandma. And that's something that I
- 45:43Speaker 9: think these socialists looked at and learned from and are
- 45:46Speaker 9: now applying and I think are going to continue to apply.
- 45:49Speaker 9: Now that's that's something that I think has to be resisted.
- 45:52Speaker 9: I think it will be resisted. I think most New
- 45:54Speaker 9: Yorkers are not going to turn their thermit's status to
- 45:56Speaker 9: seventy eight degrees because that would be crazy. But look,
- 45:59Speaker 9: we are not. We have to push back against this
- 46:01Speaker 9: because they are serious about this, and you don't know
- 46:04Speaker 9: the point at which they try to make this, perhaps
- 46:06Speaker 9: not illegally enforceable, but to penalize people who break these
- 46:11Speaker 9: kinds of laws, or not laws, but these kinds of
- 46:15Speaker 9: victims handed down from on high by people like mom. Donnie.
- 46:18Speaker 1: You'll do alternative pricing. Then that's what they do in
- 46:21Speaker 1: California on water, they if you use above X water,
- 46:26Speaker 1: you get charged three x for the water that you use,
- 46:29Speaker 1: even if it's abundant. Even in places where water is
- 46:31Speaker 1: about it. Before we come back from break your click
- 46:33Speaker 1: taking the Supreme Court's exit, they had seven major decisions,
- 46:36Speaker 1: of course, capping it off with we got one minute?
- 46:39Speaker 1: Were you happy? Sadder?
- 46:40Speaker 4: In between?
- 46:42Speaker 9: Well, on all the between the one and so I
- 46:45Speaker 9: agree with you on the outcome of the birthright citizenship decision.
- 46:50Speaker 9: I disagreed with some parts of the opinion, but I
- 46:53Speaker 9: also thought that this was an inevitable consequence of deciding
- 46:57Speaker 9: to do what they did via an executive order and
- 47:01Speaker 9: not working to try to do something via Congress as
- 47:04Speaker 9: well that would help define this and a and you know, look,
- 47:07Speaker 9: we needed to have this defined. I personally am in
- 47:09Speaker 9: favorite birthright citizenship. I do not want a bunch of
- 47:12Speaker 9: stateless kids wandering around. But we have a completely different
- 47:15Speaker 9: and unprecedented situation that we've never had before, Hugh, in
- 47:17Speaker 9: terms of the level of organized birth tourism that's going
- 47:20Speaker 9: on in this country. That's a problem that needs to
- 47:22Speaker 9: be addressed.
- 47:23Speaker 1: And that's a visa problem. I agree with you, and
- 47:25Speaker 1: it's a pregnancy visitor problem. I come right back with
- 47:28Speaker 1: Ben Dominicic, don't go anywhere America. Welcome back America. I'm
- 47:34Speaker 1: huge here with Ben Dominis's time to get them the
- 47:36Speaker 1: serious uff. Ben, I'm going to read you a post
- 47:39Speaker 1: I put up on X earlier today. If Democrat House
- 47:42Speaker 1: nominees Daria Liza Vila Chevelle in New York, Adam Hamawi
- 47:47Speaker 1: in New Jersey, me lot Kiros in Colorado, Brad Lander
- 47:51Speaker 1: in New York, Clare Vale Does in New York, and
- 47:54Speaker 1: Scott Wiener in California joined the radicals already in Congress,
- 47:58Speaker 1: and I named the nine of them Dexter, Frost, Jaya,
- 48:02Speaker 1: Paul Omar. There a bunch of them. And if radicals
- 48:05Speaker 1: shared Brown and Ohio, I'll do Lsi Ed in Michigan.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota, Graham Platner in Maine, and James
- 48:11Speaker 1: tell Rico in Texas joined the radicals already in the Senate.
- 48:14Speaker 1: We know they are Kris Van Allen and Elizabeth Warren,
- 48:17Speaker 1: Sheldon White House, Bernie. The Democrats will be run by
- 48:20Speaker 1: Marxist I mean, they'll have the balance of power. How
- 48:23Speaker 1: alarming is this development, It's never happened in American politics before.
- 48:28Speaker 9: Well, well, Hugh, I'm glad that you're putting it that way, because,
- 48:31Speaker 9: if anything, I feel like I've been saying that this
- 48:34Speaker 9: is alarming until I'm blue in the face, in the
- 48:37Speaker 9: sense that the people that I think are running the
- 48:40Speaker 9: Republican Party have actually been kind of playing with it
- 48:43Speaker 9: at something that was funny or amusing or that you
- 48:46Speaker 9: could mock, or that would play to their political benefit.
- 48:49Speaker 9: I think that they're underestimating the fact that the energy,
- 48:52Speaker 9: the organizing energy, the activist class of the Democratic Party
- 48:55Speaker 9: is firmly behind this all of this, and that the
- 49:00Speaker 9: Democratic leadership is sclerotic, it's aging, it's not in control
- 49:04Speaker 9: of their own coalition anymore. Keem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer
- 49:09Speaker 9: do not run their party and the energy. If these
- 49:12Speaker 9: folks all get elected, and most of them will, I think,
- 49:15Speaker 9: you know, you will end up with a situation where
- 49:18Speaker 9: all of the energy, all of the focus, and the
- 49:20Speaker 9: priorities of one of the major parties in America is
- 49:23Speaker 9: going to be set by a bunch of people who
- 49:26Speaker 9: think that capitalism is evil, that it needs to be destroyed,
- 49:30Speaker 9: that toys with the idea that you know, billionaires, and
- 49:33Speaker 9: that just the executive class even generally needs to be
- 49:37Speaker 9: hauled out and you know, I mean killed at the
- 49:40Speaker 9: worst extent you know, you know, that's something that a
- 49:42Speaker 9: lot of Democrats excuse when you ask them in polling,
- 49:45Speaker 9: which is amazing. But it's one of these things where
- 49:47Speaker 9: the entire idea that we would enter a stage where
- 49:52Speaker 9: one of the two major parties would essentially reject any
- 49:56Speaker 9: kind of pro business, pro capitalist, pro and instead adopt
- 50:01Speaker 9: this type of Marxism in mass It's a very real possibility, Hugh,
- 50:06Speaker 9: and I think that Republicans and Conservatives have dramatically underrated it.
- 50:09Speaker 1: So here's the tough question. Mike Johnson. The Supreme Court
- 50:13Speaker 1: cleared away the way for the parties to actually collect money,
- 50:17Speaker 1: and anyone who's out there listening, you should send your
- 50:19Speaker 1: money to the RNC, the NRCC or the NRSC and
- 50:22Speaker 1: they can control it. John Thune can control the Senate
- 50:25Speaker 1: Fund along with Tim Scott. We've got Speaker Mike Johnson
- 50:28Speaker 1: and the NRCC chairman. It's not Tom m or anymore.
- 50:31Speaker 1: Kim Marood? Is this right now? They can control the messaging.
- 50:35Speaker 1: What should the messaging be that they're Marxists, that they're
- 50:38Speaker 1: anti Semitic? How do you message? Can you nationalize this
- 50:42Speaker 1: race and turn it into whoever you are, wherever you
- 50:44Speaker 1: are vote Republican because they're insane.
- 50:47Speaker 9: Well, I think that that should be a part of
- 50:49Speaker 9: the Republican message, but it can't be the only part,
- 50:52Speaker 9: and I think unfortunately they've leaned on it a little
- 50:55Speaker 9: bit too heavily. One of the big things that I
- 50:57Speaker 9: think has to be done is to folks on their
- 51:01Speaker 9: law and order or lack thereof, I should say, agenda
- 51:04Speaker 9: when it comes to destroying the police, when it comes
- 51:07Speaker 9: to destroying the actual institutions of America. I think that
- 51:11Speaker 9: needs to be a bigger part of this talk, because
- 51:14Speaker 9: I think people hear socialism and they have been brainwashed
- 51:18Speaker 9: by our education system and our media unfortunately, to the
- 51:23Speaker 9: point where they think that means affordability.
- 51:25Speaker 1: They think it means Norway. They think it made Sweden.
- 51:28Speaker 1: It's not Norway.
- 51:30Speaker 9: It does not, it does not look you know. I
- 51:34Speaker 9: think that there is there is an element of this too,
- 51:38Speaker 9: Q And this has been something that I've kind of
- 51:40Speaker 9: beat the drum on over the years. This is this
- 51:44Speaker 9: is the true stage of America becoming a Latin America
- 51:49Speaker 9: politics adopting that entire approach where you see sort of
- 51:54Speaker 9: the strong man politician who comes in to clean things
- 51:58Speaker 9: up and make big changes and then people. But then
- 52:02Speaker 9: there's problems when it comes to oligarchs, and it comes
- 52:05Speaker 9: to corruption, and it comes to all these other things
- 52:08Speaker 9: that communists come along and demonize. Then the communists get
- 52:12Speaker 9: elected and they bring in crime, and they bring in,
- 52:14Speaker 9: you know, all sorts of upheaval and chaos and people.
- 52:19Speaker 9: They never deliver on their promises, and so people respond
- 52:22Speaker 9: in kind by electing another stronomy man. And that's the
- 52:24Speaker 9: kind of thing that you see time and again in
- 52:26Speaker 9: Latin American politics. I think. Unfortunately, you know, in America,
- 52:31Speaker 9: we are looking more and more like that on a
- 52:33Speaker 9: daily basis. And that's something that the communists think, and
- 52:37Speaker 9: they really are communists, they're not socially they think benefits
- 52:40Speaker 9: them and they're going to try to and run on
- 52:43Speaker 9: that agenda. Republicans need to understand that they have vulnerabilities
- 52:46Speaker 9: on this point, especially when it comes I think, to
- 52:48Speaker 9: the anti corruption language that they're going to use. They're
- 52:51Speaker 9: going to go after the president's family, they're going to
- 52:53Speaker 9: go after all the business deals, they're going to go
- 52:55Speaker 9: after all these different things, and they're going to paint
- 52:58Speaker 9: themselves as being crusader for the working man against a
- 53:02Speaker 9: group of rich people who are distant, who don't care
- 53:05Speaker 9: about them. They're going to play all the clips of
- 53:08Speaker 9: the president, you know, saying things that he doesn't care about,
- 53:11Speaker 9: or lower or saying that, you know, housing isn't a
- 53:13Speaker 9: priority right now, inflation, you know, et cetera. They're going
- 53:16Speaker 9: to use all of that, and they're going to use it.
- 53:18Speaker 9: I think the great effect if Republicans don't come up
- 53:20Speaker 9: with a response to it.
- 53:21Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what I'm most worried about. The consulting class.
- 53:26Speaker 1: They've never confronted this before. Yeah, the Republican consulting class.
- 53:31Speaker 1: And nobody admires Carl Road more than me. And Carl
- 53:34Speaker 1: gets it, but he's not in the game anymore. I
- 53:36Speaker 1: don't know that there's a generation. I mean, the ruthless guys.
- 53:39Speaker 1: They kind of know the language and the music. Does
- 53:42Speaker 1: anyone else though, that actually makes a living off of
- 53:45Speaker 1: this know how to sell the fact that Marxism is
- 53:49Speaker 1: a disaster and it never is not a disaster.
- 53:53Speaker 9: So I have not you know, Look, I talk to
- 53:56Speaker 9: a lot of consultants. I think there are some very
- 53:58Speaker 9: smart ones who are out there. I don't think they
- 54:01Speaker 9: have found the message that will actually tie that in
- 54:06Speaker 9: yet that will connect with people because of so many
- 54:09Speaker 9: decades of you know, indoctrination again by our education system
- 54:15Speaker 9: that said that all this stuff was harmless and that
- 54:17Speaker 9: these people just want you to have free healthcare and
- 54:20Speaker 9: free everything, et cetera, and does not actually deal with
- 54:24Speaker 9: the realities of what would be the consequences of their agenda.
- 54:28Speaker 9: That has to change, and Republicans need to understand generally
- 54:32Speaker 9: that they are facing a different animal here than they
- 54:34Speaker 9: have faced before, and it is far more extreme, far
- 54:37Speaker 9: more radical. And the difference is a lot of these
- 54:40Speaker 9: people who came before. We've said this before, a lot
- 54:42Speaker 9: of these people who came before were silly, They were
- 54:44Speaker 9: on the edge. They never were really going to exercise
- 54:47Speaker 9: any kind of power. These people are going to be powerful.
- 54:52Speaker 9: They have enough of them. If they form you know,
- 54:54Speaker 9: a consistent you know, caucus within the Democratic Conference in
- 54:59Speaker 9: the House, they will be able to affect policy to
- 55:01Speaker 9: a greater degree than ever before. The leader they will
- 55:07Speaker 9: control everything. And I think that people are underestimating the
- 55:11Speaker 9: fact that this Democratic leadership is the weakest it's ever
- 55:14Speaker 9: been in our lifetime. Nancy Pelosi is no longer in
- 55:16Speaker 9: control of this situation, you do not have people to
- 55:19Speaker 9: keep people in line. She knew how to keep the
- 55:21Speaker 9: squad in the box, even though she let them in,
- 55:24Speaker 9: and I think that that was, you know, something that
- 55:27Speaker 9: was a mistake to do, of course, but she kept
- 55:29Speaker 9: them in the box. She gave them things that they
- 55:31Speaker 9: could run and chase. She said, go off and make
- 55:33Speaker 9: your case for your green new deal. And by doing so,
- 55:36Speaker 9: she basically made them. Shek newtered their ability to actually,
- 55:39Speaker 9: you know, affects policy within the Democratic Conference to a
- 55:42Speaker 9: great degree. That's going to change, and that's going to
- 55:45Speaker 9: be a major difference than anything that we've seen, certainly
- 55:47Speaker 9: in my lifetime.
- 55:48Speaker 1: It certainly does make Susan Collins race and Maine and
- 55:52Speaker 1: Mike Rogers race in Michigan the most important races in
- 55:55Speaker 1: the United States. I mean, I want John Houston to
- 55:57Speaker 1: be old shared Brown is kind of Joe Biden but
- 56:01Speaker 1: getting bad faster than Joe Biden did. And I want
- 56:04Speaker 1: to beat awesome. But we really have to reelect Collins
- 56:07Speaker 1: and have Mike Rogers winning Michigan brand. Have a great
- 56:10Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth. Always a pleasure to spend time
- 56:13Speaker 1: with you fall him on exit be Dominich, listen to
- 56:15Speaker 1: the Big Ben podcast, and of course read the Daily
- 56:18Speaker 1: Wires opinion pages. In the Interview of the Week on
- 56:21Speaker 1: Saturday's Taking America, Welcome Back America, I'm kew Hewett. Josh
- 56:27Speaker 1: Crashawer joins me Joish editor in chief. Josh. We talked
- 56:31Speaker 1: a lot about the Democrat's hard left turn already this year,
- 56:35Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it through November. But this week
- 56:38Speaker 1: me lot Kiros and Colorado became the sixth radical Democrat
- 56:42Speaker 1: to join the ranks. Daria Lisa Elis LVA is nominated,
- 56:47Speaker 1: Adam Home a movie is nominated, Brad Lander, Claire VLDS
- 56:51Speaker 1: and Scott Wiener. Scott Wiener is not as anti Israel,
- 56:55Speaker 1: He's Jewish as the rest of them, but they're all very,
- 56:59Speaker 1: very radical. Have the people that you cover notice this
- 57:04Speaker 1: and like normy Democrats, notice what's happening in their party?
- 57:08Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean, look, it is something that was
- 57:12Speaker 10: a concern a year ago, got more deeply worrying six
- 57:17Speaker 10: months ago.
- 57:17Speaker 4: And now that these very.
- 57:20Speaker 10: Radical, openly you know, extremist candidates have actually been nominated
- 57:24Speaker 10: and are going to be headed to Congress.
- 57:26Speaker 4: You know, there are a lot of folks on the record.
- 57:27Speaker 10: There are a lot more that are quietly whispering about
- 57:30Speaker 10: how concerned they are about the direction of the party.
- 57:34Speaker 10: But look, the big tests are coming up in the
- 57:38Speaker 10: summer and then in the fall with with Abdulla l
- 57:40Speaker 10: sa Ed got the endorsement of Alexandria Casio Cortes today,
- 57:45Speaker 10: and that Michigan Senate race is a real proxy for
- 57:47Speaker 10: these same forces. But also the general we haven't really
- 57:51Speaker 10: seen how these extreme DSA line candidates or socialist candidates
- 57:56Speaker 10: are going to fare in a general election. And if
- 57:58Speaker 10: you have Graham Platner in Maine and Abdul lsay it,
- 58:00Speaker 10: if he gets the nomination in Michigan, I mean that
- 58:03Speaker 10: is going to be the ultimate test. And look, I
- 58:05Speaker 10: think that is the more important test ultimately, because if
- 58:08Speaker 10: Democrats lose the Senate majority and lose these very winnable
- 58:12Speaker 10: races because of that extremism, I think they will get
- 58:15Speaker 10: the message that they need to do something to confront
- 58:17Speaker 10: the anti Israel extremism and the anti Semitism and the radicalism.
- 58:21Speaker 10: If somehow even one of the two just to win,
- 58:24Speaker 10: that might send them a different message, and that that
- 58:26Speaker 10: would be a very disturbing message.
- 58:28Speaker 1: I do see polling showing Susan Collins has gone ahead
- 58:32Speaker 1: in one public poll of Graham Plattner. I think he's
- 58:35Speaker 1: falling like a rock. Domestic abuse is one of those
- 58:37Speaker 1: acid acting issues that destroy a candidacy even though people
- 58:44Speaker 1: don't say things about it. Elsa, Yeah, is just so
- 58:46Speaker 1: far out there. And Mike Rodgers is such a normy
- 58:49Speaker 1: that I think he'll win. But in the House, they've
- 58:52Speaker 1: already got nine radicals in the House Democrats, and I
- 58:54Speaker 1: could run through them, but you know, AOC and everybodies
- 58:57Speaker 1: they're nine radicals. If they get six more that fifteen,
- 59:01Speaker 1: there's no way. I think the Democrats come out of
- 59:03Speaker 1: these House elections with a majority of greater than ten
- 59:07Speaker 1: or twelve, so they're gonna be in charge of the House.
- 59:09Speaker 1: Do you think Hakeem Jeffries controls that.
- 59:13Speaker 4: Well, you nailed the Matthew.
- 59:15Speaker 10: The math that I'm going to be looking at come
- 59:17Speaker 10: November is whether the number of DSA affiliated Democrats is
- 59:21Speaker 10: a larger number than if Democrats do take the majority,
- 59:24Speaker 10: then is it larger than Hakeem Jeffries, You know, majority margin.
- 59:27Speaker 10: I think it's a good chance it will be. When
- 59:29Speaker 10: you look at the cook political report you look at,
- 59:31Speaker 10: you know, kind of an expected you bught like a
- 59:34Speaker 10: fifteen seed pickup that would that would put you know,
- 59:37Speaker 10: that number kind of in the same ballpark. So it's
- 59:40Speaker 10: going to be a hell of a time for Hakim
- 59:42Speaker 10: Jeffries to be speaker. It's going to be very much
- 59:45Speaker 10: like Kevin McCarthy faced in twenty twenty two. I've heard
- 59:49Speaker 10: from some Democrats they're going to kind of play the
- 59:51Speaker 10: card of how dare you oppose someone who would be
- 59:54Speaker 10: the first black speaker to Hakim Jeffries. And I think
- 59:58Speaker 10: it could get ugly if it really is a fight
- 1:00:00Speaker 10: for the speakership, But that's the card I think that
- 1:00:02Speaker 10: the establishment is going to play. But I don't think
- 1:00:05Speaker 10: that the very radical, very anti I mean these folks,
- 1:00:08Speaker 10: and we've talked about this que but you know, they
- 1:00:11Speaker 10: make sort of the type of extreme candidates who I've
- 1:00:14Speaker 10: talked about as exotic or unelectable in both parties in
- 1:00:17Speaker 10: the past. Chevalier is an out and out self declared communist.
- 1:00:21Speaker 10: You know, the candidate in Colorado, Kiros.
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: Who who just got nominated.
- 1:00:26Speaker 10: She would not declare the fire bombing that killed people
- 1:00:31Speaker 10: Jewish people trying to raise awareness of the hostages being
- 1:00:33Speaker 10: held by Hamas she wouldn't declare the terrorist attack.
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: As anti Semitic.
- 1:00:38Speaker 10: I mean, this is a whole new level of extremism,
- 1:00:41Speaker 10: and I think it's going to have some very serious
- 1:00:42Speaker 10: consequences in a negative way for the Democratic Party.
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: So, Josh Roshaw, you played center field and political journalism.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: I'm wondering the Republican National Republican Congressional Committee, National Republican
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: Senatorial Committee. Evidence to you yet any kind of coherent
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: strategy for going into the fall trying to nationalize the
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: race around the Democrats march to Mark Sisan.
- 1:01:06Speaker 10: Well, look, they we have Platinum Mattig Maine, and the
- 1:01:11Speaker 10: nomination of Plattner might might become a nationalized play given
- 1:01:15Speaker 10: just how prominent he has become and how problematic. Even
- 1:01:19Speaker 10: Democrats who are pretty progressive and they realize that this guy,
- 1:01:25Speaker 10: it may not be viable in the long term.
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:01:27Speaker 10: I think the Trio rights he that there was the
- 1:01:28Speaker 10: first poll, the Fox Pole came out this week showing
- 1:01:30Speaker 10: him down for the first time in a public poll,
- 1:01:33Speaker 10: and then the New York Times poll showed him only
- 1:01:35Speaker 10: up by two points. But if you talk to Democrats
- 1:01:37Speaker 10: who were looking under the hood of those numbers. Not
- 1:01:40Speaker 10: a lot of good trend lines for Platiner, a lot
- 1:01:42Speaker 10: of real, real red flags. So I still think that'll
- 1:01:44Speaker 10: be a competitive race. But Platiner does look like damaged goods.
- 1:01:47Speaker 10: I think the question is for else. I had to
- 1:01:49Speaker 10: starting to get negative hit attacks on his record starting now,
- 1:01:52Speaker 10: the air wars are already beginning, And I think the
- 1:01:55Speaker 10: question is, and I think you raised a good point
- 1:01:57Speaker 10: Hugh earlier, that it really was the sexual abuse abuse
- 1:02:01Speaker 10: allegations that's documented in the New York Times that really
- 1:02:03Speaker 10: sank Graham Plattner's campaign.
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: It actually wasn't the neo Nazi tattoo.
- 1:02:07Speaker 10: It wasn't the fact that he watched Hamas terrorists in
- 1:02:10Speaker 10: a in a video killing Israeli soldiers and praising the video.
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: It was it was the sexual abuse that really did
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: him in.
- 1:02:19Speaker 10: With with l Sayed, he's you know, made a number
- 1:02:21Speaker 10: of anti israel I would call anti Submitic comments in
- 1:02:25Speaker 10: recent in recent months. But is that enough in a
- 1:02:28Speaker 10: state like Michigan to creator his candidacy.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be the big political question this year.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: Well, the good news he's a Republican is Mike Rogers
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: is an army and Susan Collins is in army. They're
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: not running marginal candidates, which might make them vulnerable. I
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: do wonder though about the math, and you just ran
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: through it. King Jeffreys is cowering. He's not out there
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: trying to elect moderates. He's not AOC is out there endorsing.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: El sayed that that she's the leader of the party
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: in the House. Mam Donnie is the leader of the
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: National movement right now. I don't know. You know, Nancy
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: Pelosi held onto power for so long she did not
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: really allow Hakim Jeffrey to develop an independent stature, right
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: or wrong?
- 1:03:12Speaker 10: You got a minute, JAHI well, that is, you asked
- 1:03:16Speaker 10: me about what I'm hearing from a lot of more
- 1:03:18Speaker 10: moderate mainstream Democrats alarmed at the direction of where this
- 1:03:21Speaker 10: party is headed.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: And it is how quickly party leaders.
- 1:03:26Speaker 10: Accommodated uh these DSA aligned members of how Hakim Jeffries,
- 1:03:32Speaker 10: I know, has got to be just very concerned about
- 1:03:35Speaker 10: an on and out communist whinning in his backyard in
- 1:03:38Speaker 10: New York City and Austin a well respected incumbent in
- 1:03:41Speaker 10: the Spayat but a day later, or maybe two days
- 1:03:45Speaker 10: after the election, he praised that that candidate Chevalier and said.
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: You hope you can work with her and fighting right
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: wing extremism. So talk about Kutzba. That's a pretty good
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: example of that.
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: That's a good turn on the heel. Josh Croushower, I
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- 1:06:33Speaker 1: off for three days. We have a special programming tomorrow
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: on the eve of the fourth of July, having to
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: do with the Declaration of Independence. I begin this hour
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: with Jim Garretty, Jimny and Dispensable comments for The Washington Post,
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Senior writer for National Review, UH co host of the
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: editors along with Rich Lowry and his fellow colleagues over
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: at National Review and of course on the Three Martini
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Lunch podcast as well, Jim a happy Fourth of July
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: and advanced to you. I want to state my base
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: and get your reaction. If Democratic House nominees Daria Liza
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: of Ilischevay a New York, Adam Hallane in New Jersey,
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Malotte Keiros in Colorado, Brad Lander in New York, Clare
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: Vale Dez in New York, and Scott Wiener in California
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: join representative ballot Democrat from Vermont, AOC from New York,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Dexter from Oregon, Maxwell Frost from Florida, Roald dah I
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: can't say the name, Grahalabai I guess from Arizona, Jaipaul
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: from Washington, Ilan Omar from Minnesota to leave from Minnesota,
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: Michigan to meet Anaiah Presley from Massachusetts, and the radicals
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: running for Senate Shared Brown and Ohio, Abdulsa in Michigan,
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: Flanagan and Minnesota Grand Platner in Maine, Talla, Rico and
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: Texas join with Ed Markey, Merkley, Bernie Sanders, Chris van
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: hollend os Off, Elizabeth Ward, and Sheldon Whitehouse. Then the
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: Democratic Party will be controlled in both houses bi radical caucus,
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: the likes of which we've never seen before, and the
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: party will be captured in a way we'd never considered before.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: Am I overstating it?
- 1:08:09Speaker 11: You are not, Although I got to say, Hugh, for
- 1:08:11Speaker 11: a while, I thought this was Christmas Mass, where so
- 1:08:15Speaker 11: and so who begat so?
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: And so?
- 1:08:17Speaker 6: Who forgat so and so?
- 1:08:18Speaker 11: You were doing the lineage, you know, Bernie, who begat
- 1:08:23Speaker 11: AOC who begat Chevalier and.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: All of that stuff.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: Not like.
- 1:08:29Speaker 11: It very much feels like we are in this era
- 1:08:33Speaker 11: of a swinging pendulum, and each time the pendulum swings
- 1:08:37Speaker 11: a little bit further right. The Trump like Trump was
- 1:08:42Speaker 11: indoubtedly a response to the two terms of Obama, and
- 1:08:45Speaker 11: the entire MAGA movement was this sense of frustration with
- 1:08:49Speaker 11: quote unquote establishment, republicanism or whatever you want to call it.
- 1:08:53Speaker 11: Oh yeah, we get Trump. The Democrats like, oh my god,
- 1:08:56Speaker 11: he really means what he says. This is crazy, and
- 1:08:58Speaker 11: they go further to the left. Is the AOC era Democrats?
- 1:09:03Speaker 11: You know, the Democrats, particularly under Biden, are too far
- 1:09:06Speaker 11: to the left of the American public, and they swing
- 1:09:08Speaker 11: back to Trump. And now you're getting Trump unleashed. I
- 1:09:11Speaker 11: think you'd agree with me that second term Trump is
- 1:09:13Speaker 11: a different guy from first term Trump, and it.
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: Is first much into Article two powers.
- 1:09:17Speaker 11: Yes, right, so now you've got and this is now
- 1:09:21Speaker 11: twice the Democrats have lost to a guy who they
- 1:09:24Speaker 11: thought was absolutely unelectable the first time. And this is
- 1:09:28Speaker 11: now a crisis. This is now something that really can't
- 1:09:30Speaker 11: be done. So clearly it cannot be solved with someone
- 1:09:33Speaker 11: like Michael Bennett, the Colorado senator who just lost the
- 1:09:37Speaker 11: gubernatorial primary out there.
- 1:09:39Speaker 4: He's too milk toast.
- 1:09:40Speaker 11: Allegedly he's not a fighter because he hasn't punched anybody
- 1:09:44Speaker 11: out or something like that. Right, we need people who
- 1:09:46Speaker 11: are fighters, and that's why you're getting folks like Chevalier,
- 1:09:50Speaker 11: who's you know, very much believes that she's hoping in
- 1:09:52Speaker 11: the Senate she will turn America into a country in
- 1:09:56Speaker 11: which there are no murders. Now, I wish her every
- 1:09:59Speaker 11: success in that endeavor, but I don't think it's going
- 1:10:02Speaker 11: to happen, because there's never been a human society that
- 1:10:04Speaker 11: didn't do that.
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: And my sneaking.
- 1:10:06Speaker 11: Suspicion is that what separates us from that immanitized escaton,
- 1:10:11Speaker 11: to quote William of Bluckley, is not that we don't
- 1:10:13Speaker 11: have Chevalier in the House. I don't think she's going
- 1:10:15Speaker 11: to make that much of a difference when it comes
- 1:10:16Speaker 11: to the homicide rate in the United States, other than
- 1:10:19Speaker 11: probably making us want to kill somebody everyone every time
- 1:10:21Speaker 11: we have to listen to her as some hobby pinko
- 1:10:25Speaker 11: speech of the House of Representatives.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: But I'm going to go a little bit. I think
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: your announces what happened is correct because Democrats are shocked
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: by the esthetic Donald Trump, the intellectual approach of Donald Trump,
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: and the pragmatic steps that Trump takes, which can sometimes
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: be brutal like the border wall. However, to come up
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: with the dsa ors March, Chevalier, hano'mi, Kiros Ladner, Valdez,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: Wiener and all the other radicals out there, Grand Platinir
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: Flaning again especially and else, I had maybe the most
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: radical of them Michigan.
- 1:11:01Speaker 11: All there was a national socialist.
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: Not a communist, but he is a self described commedy
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: short nickname for that, yeah, himself described commun When they
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: nominate people like this, is it possible for the Republicans
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: to nationalize the race? About what power in that caucus?
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: Let's just call it the radical left caucus in the
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: both houses of Congress. Can the race be nationalized in
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: November around.
- 1:11:29Speaker 11: That, Yeah, I have a feeling that between now and
- 1:11:32Speaker 11: November enough Americans will be frustrated with Trump, enough Americans
- 1:11:36Speaker 11: will be frustrated with the state of the country in
- 1:11:38Speaker 11: the direction of things, and they'll say, we're gonna it's
- 1:11:40Speaker 11: time for a change. We're going to vote for Democrats.
- 1:11:42Speaker 11: Democrats are going to win the House. Don't know how
- 1:11:44Speaker 11: the Senate is going to shake out, It'll probably be
- 1:11:46Speaker 11: close either way. But what I do kind of think
- 1:11:47Speaker 11: would very well happen is that this is you know,
- 1:11:50Speaker 11: if it's not JD. Vans, if it's not Marco Rubio,
- 1:11:52Speaker 11: whoever the Republican nominee is, you are there is a
- 1:11:56Speaker 11: few people can change their opinions really fast. And in
- 1:11:59Speaker 11: twenty twenty two, the country did not actually give Republicans
- 1:12:02Speaker 11: the big red wave that people were expecting. They stuck
- 1:12:04Speaker 11: with Oba, with they stuck with Biden. There was other
- 1:12:07Speaker 11: than Florida. There was kind of the sense of Republicans underperformed,
- 1:12:10Speaker 11: and then as Biden accelerated into those last two years,
- 1:12:12Speaker 11: there's a real sense of, you know what, we did
- 1:12:15Speaker 11: not put the check on his power the way we wanted.
- 1:12:17Speaker 11: He's really getting older and swapping out Kamala Harris didn't.
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: Do any good.
- 1:12:21Speaker 11: So my sneaking suspicion is is that Democrats will still
- 1:12:24Speaker 11: have a good midterm and that once these folks are
- 1:12:27Speaker 11: no longer the outsiders with this very like every outsider,
- 1:12:31Speaker 11: every challenger, has the easiest message. Things stink, Elect me
- 1:12:34Speaker 11: and I'm going to make them better. But my sneaking
- 1:12:37Speaker 11: suspicion is in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, when
- 1:12:40Speaker 11: things don't feel dramatically better in the country with a
- 1:12:43Speaker 11: Democratic House and perhaps a Democratic Senate, probably the people
- 1:12:47Speaker 11: will be like, well, wait a second. You guys said
- 1:12:48Speaker 11: you were going to deliver, you know, the end of murder,
- 1:12:51Speaker 11: and everybody would be having socialists. You know, we're supposed
- 1:12:54Speaker 11: to have free grocery stores and free buses in New
- 1:12:57Speaker 11: York City.
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: Hew.
- 1:12:58Speaker 11: It turns out the warmth of collect activism is that
- 1:13:00Speaker 11: you can't set your thermostatule a seventy eight.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: I know, and that's something now, poor people in New York.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Before I get to the red card last night, because
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: I saw you were watching as I was the red
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: card controversy. Those fifteen radical members of the House. It's
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: the nine who are there and the six who are
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: coming in. They are communists. They might not call themselves communists,
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: they are communists. Is there any way to warn people
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: about what that means that's effective in the era of Trump,
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: because there is the title chart of American political history,
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: which is that goes out on the sixth year of
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: a presidency, whether it's Trump or Bush or Reagan, they
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: get slaughtered or Obama, they get slaughtered. But these fifteen
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: they're not going to pick up more than sixteen seats.
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: They're down six right now. They're not going to win
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: with redistricting thrown in, they're not going to win twenty
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: three Hawking Jeffreys is going to need those people. So
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: do we warn Can the NRSC in the NRCC nationalize
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: those races or at least the Senate races to protect
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: the country.
- 1:14:06Speaker 11: It will be challenging when the likes of CNN White
- 1:14:08Speaker 11: House correspondent Caitlin Collins keep insisting, well, Trump's calling them communists,
- 1:14:13Speaker 11: but they're really if you look at the Leninist Marxist history,
- 1:14:16Speaker 11: the Hugh this is there's two weird things about labels
- 1:14:21Speaker 11: in the in the midterms so far so Hugh. How
- 1:14:24Speaker 11: many times in your career do you think you've been
- 1:14:26Speaker 11: called a Nazi?
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: A lot?
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: Yeah, probably too many to.
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: Count, right, Yeah, well a but I normally bleed them out.
- 1:14:37Speaker 11: Anybody to the right of Lincoln Shafey has been called
- 1:14:39Speaker 11: a Nazi plenty of times in the course of their career,
- 1:14:41Speaker 11: you know, years of arguing about politics. The one person
- 1:14:44Speaker 11: who the left is absolutely certain is not a Nazi
- 1:14:48Speaker 11: is the guy who had the s S Totenkoff tattooed
- 1:14:50Speaker 11: onto his heart. He's the one guy they're absolutely certain
- 1:14:53Speaker 11: is not a Nazi.
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:14:54Speaker 11: Well, in this case, we have people who, by any
- 1:14:56Speaker 11: definition they're talking about seizing the means of production, or
- 1:14:59Speaker 11: they have past comments where they said that they were
- 1:15:02Speaker 11: a Nazi of Chevalier and Plattner, and you say, oh, no,
- 1:15:04Speaker 11: that was the ancient history, that was four or five
- 1:15:07Speaker 11: years ago. I'm a totally different person now. Right now,
- 1:15:10Speaker 11: think about all the times Trump gets called fascist. Kamala
- 1:15:13Speaker 11: Harris called Trump fascist. Right So there's this very odd
- 1:15:17Speaker 11: policing of political labels in which, oh, you can't call
- 1:15:20Speaker 11: this Democrat running for Congress a communist because they don't.
- 1:15:24Speaker 11: They only checked fourteen of the fifteen boxes and all
- 1:15:26Speaker 11: that stuff. And you know they aren't really calling for
- 1:15:29Speaker 11: gulags now, they're merely calling for work camps for you know,
- 1:15:32Speaker 11: all that stuff.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: Well, Cotton so by Sarah Cotton yesterday called them Marxist,
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: and I may, I may agree with him. That's the
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: best way that We've never had a Marxist majority in
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: Congress or a Marxist majority making caucus in Congress. So
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: what do we if you're Mike Johnson, and you're johnthone,
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: and you're in charge of the National Republican Congressional Committee,
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: the National Republican Senatorial Committee, what do you say about
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: these people in every district? Because John Podhortz yesterday he
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: said you can nationalize the Senate racis, but not the
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: House racist. What do you say in every house district
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: in America about the vote people are casting.
- 1:16:06Speaker 11: Yeah, it's tougher, But one of the things I would
- 1:16:08Speaker 11: say is, you know, when you would these people who say, oh,
- 1:16:10Speaker 11: I'm not a communist, I'm only a democratic socialist, what
- 1:16:13Speaker 11: part of communism do you not agree with? Is it
- 1:16:16Speaker 11: the sac is it? You know it was it the
- 1:16:19Speaker 11: uh uh, the forced famine in Ukraine. What part of
- 1:16:23Speaker 11: the Soviet Union do you look at that and say
- 1:16:25Speaker 11: I don't want that part? Because Chafalier genuinely believes she's
- 1:16:28Speaker 11: going to create in America where.
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: No one murders each other, right, so you know.
- 1:16:31Speaker 11: And then the next question is if you're a Democrat
- 1:16:33Speaker 11: who says, oh, I'm not DSA, where and how will
- 1:16:36Speaker 11: you fight your DSA colleagues?
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: My sister oh good questions that is the good that
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: that might be for the non crazy racist, which you're
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: going to win to get to the district. Where and
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: how will you fight your DSA Marxist colleague bad? That's
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: all we have. Garrity, that's what we call them, indispensable
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: kind of the name marvelous two hundred and fiftieth for it.
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- 1:17:29Speaker 1: in today's information is about Germany and its free armament
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: about which I was unaware. Philip, When did mister Murrs
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: finally begin to deliver on Germany's pledge?
- 1:17:41Speaker 6: You, first of all, happen forth? And secondly, the discount
- 1:17:45Speaker 6: is Hugh is Hugh h You're right?
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: Okay, yes, So I.
- 1:17:50Speaker 6: Just want to make sure that the listeners and viewers
- 1:17:53Speaker 6: get that right. So this is a really really interesting
- 1:17:58Speaker 6: story and an important one to you. So Germany is
- 1:18:02Speaker 6: re arming for the first time in eighty years since
- 1:18:06Speaker 6: the end of World War Two. The Chancellor has promised
- 1:18:11Speaker 6: that Germany will reach three point five percent of gross
- 1:18:15Speaker 6: domestic product or GDP going for defense spending by twenty
- 1:18:20Speaker 6: twenty nine. They're in the mid twes right now. I mean,
- 1:18:26Speaker 6: sho should we be worried about this? I think that's
- 1:18:29Speaker 6: the question that people might want to ask, and I
- 1:18:32Speaker 6: would say yes, but not because Germany has any evil intentions.
- 1:18:37Speaker 6: They don't. It's really about the introduction of more instability
- 1:18:44Speaker 6: into the world by all this arm spending. So why
- 1:18:47Speaker 6: is Germany doing it? If they're doing it for two reasons.
- 1:18:49Speaker 6: One the war in Ukraine. They're scared of Russia and
- 1:18:54Speaker 6: they really believe that Russia will eventually invade Europe, of
- 1:18:59Speaker 6: the main body of Europe. And then the other reason
- 1:19:01Speaker 6: is the Trump administrations pulled back from NATA, which as
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: all of the European countries, you know, scared because they've
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: been relying on us for eighty years and now they
- 1:19:12Speaker 6: realize that maybe they can't, and so they're all scrambling
- 1:19:17Speaker 6: to spend more.
- 1:19:19Speaker 7: So.
- 1:19:19Speaker 6: Germany is the large economy in Europe, most powerful country,
- 1:19:24Speaker 6: but it's been a past this nation. After the end
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: of the war, Germany just basically said no more, no
- 1:19:31Speaker 6: more fighting, no more killing, no more invading, and they
- 1:19:35Speaker 6: had very little military and they never sent their troops overseas.
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: Now Philip Murders, who's the chancellor, is a CDU Christian
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: Democratic Union and he's got a party to his right,
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: the AfD. Does the af D support this or does
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: he need the socialists to assist him in getting the
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: devent spending up.
- 1:19:55Speaker 6: They're on board. They're on board.
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: The left is on Boing. What about the AFT, oh.
- 1:20:05Speaker 6: The a FD, they support it also, maybe not as
- 1:20:09Speaker 6: much as Murs wants to spend, but they are supporting
- 1:20:14Speaker 6: the military spending, and I mean obviously different perspective.
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: They're sending troops to the Baltics.
- 1:20:23Speaker 6: They sent a combat brigade to Lithuania of about forty
- 1:20:29Speaker 6: five hundred troops, first time they've ever done that. Germany,
- 1:20:33Speaker 6: and so they're right there on the front line. I mean,
- 1:20:37Speaker 6: Germany is not the front line. Poland is the front
- 1:20:40Speaker 6: line of the Baltic states. Of course, Ukraine goes without
- 1:20:44Speaker 6: saying they are the front line, the real fighting front line.
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: So if Russia were to invade the Baltics, Lithuania, Lafia Estonia,
- 1:20:55Speaker 6: then the German brigade would be right there, and then
- 1:20:59Speaker 6: of course that would trigger all kinds of other things.
- 1:21:03Speaker 6: You know, God forbid that that would ever happen. But
- 1:21:06Speaker 6: I mean it's it's possible. I mean, you know, it's
- 1:21:08Speaker 6: really interesting here if you look at the great World
- 1:21:12Speaker 6: War two powers and where they are today in terms
- 1:21:15Speaker 6: of military spending. So Russia spends seven and a half
- 1:21:21Speaker 6: percent of their GDP even with the war. It's it's
- 1:21:26Speaker 6: not maybe as high as you would think. Ukraine is
- 1:21:29Speaker 6: forty percent. Forty percent of their economy is devoted to
- 1:21:34Speaker 6: military spending. The United States is three point one, the
- 1:21:41Speaker 6: UK is two point four, France is two, China's one
- 1:21:47Speaker 6: point seven. In Japan is at the very bottom and
- 1:21:50Speaker 6: the military spending at one point four percent. But Japan
- 1:21:55Speaker 6: the other access power, of the other major access power,
- 1:21:59Speaker 6: not counting Italy, they are in the process of beginning
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: rearmament as well under the new prime minister.
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: Do you happen to know what they're building, because right
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: now Ukraine has shown us you can go to forty percent.
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: Now bet half of that forty percent drones and manpower.
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: At least, what is Germany going to invest in. We
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: don't really need leopard tanks anymore.
- 1:22:24Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry to tell you that they are investing
- 1:22:27Speaker 6: in tanks, and maybe they're not leopards. I think there's
- 1:22:29Speaker 6: a new tank that is being built by a company
- 1:22:32Speaker 6: in the Netherlands. It's a kind of a joint effort
- 1:22:36Speaker 6: with France and maybe another country. But they are building tanks,
- 1:22:41Speaker 6: fighter jets and of course thrones, artillery shells, men and
- 1:22:47Speaker 6: women and uniforms and rifles and bullets, and I mean
- 1:22:51Speaker 6: everything that it takes, you know, radar systems, intelligence systems.
- 1:22:58Speaker 6: That's the other thing Germany is doing is they are
- 1:23:02Speaker 6: greatly increasing their intelligence capabilities because in all these years
- 1:23:06Speaker 6: since World War Two, they've completely relied on the US
- 1:23:10Speaker 6: for intelligence share. So we have all these phenomenal capabilities
- 1:23:14Speaker 6: from you know, eavesdropping to human intelligence CIA activities. We
- 1:23:21Speaker 6: give a lot of that to the Germans in the
- 1:23:23Speaker 6: French and our other allies.
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- 1:23:57Speaker 1: the Germans have the will to fight? I mean that's
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: a big ques question, but it's one thing to build
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: weapons that they have actually the appetite for it.
- 1:24:05Speaker 6: That's a great question. You know my answer would be
- 1:24:07Speaker 6: probably not. But I suppose if God forbid the we're
- 1:24:12Speaker 6: a Russian invasion or something, they will have to discover
- 1:24:15Speaker 6: that will all over again.
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- 1:24:17Speaker 6: I mean you could ask the same question if somebody
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- 1:24:23Speaker 6: you would. Would we be good at it right away? No?
- 1:24:25Speaker 6: Probably not? But would we yet good at it? Definitely?
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