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The Space Shuttle Challenger Conspiracy · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Adam, host of this podcast. Don't
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  Speaker 1: skip this. It's not an ad just dropping in to
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  Speaker 1: let you know. This episode was initially recorded and released
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  Speaker 1: back in February twenty nineteen as a subscriber only episode.
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  Speaker 1: It is a wild episode about a wild conspiracy, specifically
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  Speaker 1: the conspiracy theory that claims the astronauts who died on
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  Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle Challenger didn't actually die. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's a wild one. Connor is my co host on
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  Speaker 1: this one, and it also features special guests Andy Sell
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  Speaker 1: and Connor's former and at the time Mean Boys podcast
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  Speaker 1: co host, Keith Carey, so you won't be shocked to
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  Speaker 1: learn that it's a wild episode in that way too.
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  Speaker 1: We're releasing it now because the Space Shuttle Challenger is
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  Speaker 1: back in the public consciousness on account of a new
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  Speaker 1: Netflix documentary about the tragedy and its possible causes rest
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  Speaker 1: a show, though the documentary does not touch on the
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  Speaker 1: crazy shit we're about to talk about here. If you're
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  Speaker 1: listening on Patreon or super cast, good news, you're also
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  Speaker 1: going to get some bonus twenty twenty updates dropped in
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  Speaker 1: here and there throughout the episode, but no matter where
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  Speaker 1: you're listening. We thank you kindly for doing so. Thanks,
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  Speaker 1: we love you. Let's get to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with your hosts Adam Todd
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  Speaker 2: Brown and Connor mispatn.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, what's up. I'm Connor.
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  Speaker 1: That's Connor mcspadden and we have a room full of
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  Speaker 1: goddamn guests today, Keith Carry from what podcast?
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  Speaker 2: That'd be mean boy? Oh that's right, right, right right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's weird seeing Connor over here with his secret family.
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  Speaker 2: I forget he does this show that is for sure
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  Speaker 2: more popular than ours.
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  Speaker 3: I brought my butter half today.
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  Speaker 2: But you're gonna be catching out some d side fat
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  Speaker 2: jokes you haven't done yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a whole new audience for Burns on
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  Speaker 1: each Other. Oh oh great, just revisit the classics.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I was reading the iTunes reviews for the
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  Speaker 3: show the other day and god damn, they're funny. Have
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  Speaker 3: you have you seen them, madam?
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some of them.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, uh, yeah, there's just one smart guy
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  Speaker 3: and then there's the other guy who just kind of
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  Speaker 3: interrupts him. To talk about pussy and I don't. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of am just here for the conspiracies. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of podcasts on this network.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I came for serious information. It was comedy
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  Speaker 2: formatic thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like a football game. I do like
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  Speaker 1: to play by play and then I need color commentary
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  Speaker 1: people to Yeah. Well, then we'll occasionally say something racist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the black out with cancer. That's my job,
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  Speaker 3: you know whatever. Whatever he was, he seemed cool.
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  Speaker 1: What's that?
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  Speaker 3: What you know, the black sports commentator with cancer that
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  Speaker 3: died rees He was like a beloved guy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah him, as was his name.
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  Speaker 2: I'm black is what Connor's saying? Super black, I can
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  Speaker 2: say it.
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  Speaker 3: He was the only color commentator I could think of,
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  Speaker 3: and it was not even a color in terms of
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  Speaker 3: he is a color. Oh just like he hadds like
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  Speaker 3: a colorful dialogue.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait to check the it iTunes reviews after this.
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  Speaker 1: That's Andy sell Hill, by the way, that.
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  Speaker 4: You went to black for Connor and not cancer?
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  Speaker 2: What well? He said? The I don't know black was funny.
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  Speaker 3: I just I had to narrow it. I figured, I
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  Speaker 3: guess I figured discussing NFL commentators him being black would
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  Speaker 3: narrow it down considerably. Sadly, I guess. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: I don't know guys who fucking never mind?
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  Speaker 1: How could anyone know?
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  Speaker 3: I'm really, really tired. I'm doing my best.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably because we're recording at ten o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, whose idea was that that?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Me? Was it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I have to leave. I got to go to Sacramento.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, which is what I always have to do
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  Speaker 3: in life.
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  Speaker 1: So Connor kind of set this up for everyone because
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  Speaker 1: once we scheduled this at ten, I was like, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just do the rest of them at ten this week.
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  Speaker 4: Going to Sacramento. Isn't that just a euphemism you tell
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  Speaker 4: a kid when their dog dies. Yeah, he went to Sacramento.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he went to Sacramento. He couldn't make it to Oakland.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a it's just a landfill of dead dreams,
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  Speaker 3: is what it is, really, held together by rivers and
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  Speaker 3: drug use.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, dead dreams are a good segue into what we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about today, Sure is, I would argue.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about the Space Shuttle Challenger, which.
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  Speaker 4: Such good time Nation's dead dream Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Did you watch this shit live.
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  Speaker 1: I did not, but only because I was in either
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  Speaker 1: fourth or fifth grade when it happened.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's right on the edge. Do you turn on
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  Speaker 3: the TV for the special news today kind of territory.
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  Speaker 1: They were going to have us all. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how this worked out, but they were gonna show us
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  Speaker 1: all the launch throughout the day. I think they were
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  Speaker 1: going to like record it and then replay.
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  Speaker 4: It, yeah, because it happened. That's the thing is that
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  Speaker 4: like a lot of people have this false memory of
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  Speaker 4: watching this live when they were in school, right and
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  Speaker 4: it and like most people are full of shit when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to that, like they think they saw it,
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  Speaker 4: but it's like one of those false memory things because
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  Speaker 4: it happened so early in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: The Mandela effect kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think remember when Sindbad blew up in that space shuttle, Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The space shuttle Kazam died on entry.
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  Speaker 4: And I had one of those full I feel like
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  Speaker 4: they wheeled in a TV in one of those you know,
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  Speaker 4: rolling av rax and we watched it.
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  Speaker 3: But I also think t mcuh, you know, do a
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  Speaker 3: play by play of the death of a bunch of scientists.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I remember for sure that I was in class
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  Speaker 1: when it happened, and they the principal mister Haney's bitch ass,
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  Speaker 1: mister Haney's mister, no.
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  Speaker 2: Please, mister Hanney's bitch ass is my father got.
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  Speaker 3: Mister Haney that greg His name doesn't command any respect
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  Speaker 3: or strike fear.
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  Speaker 1: No, mister Haney, you bitch. Wait.
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  Speaker 4: Third string quarterback Caleb Haney was your teacher, Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to. He would do this thing constantly.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a weird tick he had where he
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  Speaker 1: would like bend at the knees to like a justice underwear.
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  Speaker 2: Was he a cartoon character from the nineteen twenties.
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  Speaker 3: I think, But he did it constantly, like he's on
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  Speaker 3: one of those push him up and down the lever
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  Speaker 3: rail cars kind of. That's what if you're a teacher.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a teacher, you can't get in there and
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  Speaker 2: root around or you just you know, he might a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of kids might as well have been though, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I was in class and mister Haney just
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  Speaker 1: came on the loud speaker and was like, uh, hey,
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  Speaker 1: motherfucker's the space Shuttle blew up and go like that?
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like they were planning to show it
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  Speaker 1: to us in some way, like maybe they were going
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  Speaker 1: to record it. This was like Don of the DCR era.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe our school had that kind of budget. Probably not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I definitely didn't see it live.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I for some reason feel like I did, but
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  Speaker 4: I also don't think I did. I remember like it
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  Speaker 4: being really inappropriate that like every kid in my class
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  Speaker 4: when the news came out was like, fuck, yeah, teacher died.
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  Speaker 3: No similar now, similar to nine to eleven? What was
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  Speaker 3: the show that you were mad about? This preempting one.
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  Speaker 3: This happened because when I got home from school and
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  Speaker 3: I turned on fucking Channel five, I was already for
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  Speaker 3: yu gi oh, and uh guess what it wasn't happening.
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  Speaker 3: Uh fucking it was all people and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's I can't contextualize this. Just let
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  Speaker 3: me learn morals from card games, you know. And that
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  Speaker 3: was like three days and then they didn't even go
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  Speaker 3: back to the episode of Yu gi Oh in the
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  Speaker 3: City I was supposed to follow the one I'd seen
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  Speaker 3: on you know, Monday. After the Tuesday it was like two,
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  Speaker 3: two whole ones I didn't get to see, so I know, idea,
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  Speaker 3: what the fuck was going on?
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  Speaker 2: Donor Mrick'spadden the one true victim of that.
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  Speaker 3: And I would say, if I would say one of
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  Speaker 3: the unsung victims, I didn't get any kind of settlement
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  Speaker 3: for my.
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  Speaker 4: If we rupt the continuity of Yu gi Oh than
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  Speaker 4: the terrorists of truly one.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, there wasn't a show like that for me
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  Speaker 1: because I was so young. If it was Thunderbirds, I
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  Speaker 1: was just way into this shuttle launch happening, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: when it blew up, I was just like, well that
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  Speaker 1: was a weird ending, but I'm still gonna watch.
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  Speaker 4: I do remember, like like a lot of things that
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  Speaker 4: were affected by Columbine A nine to eleven that were like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, sort of coincidental cultural items. There was that
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  Speaker 4: episode of Family Matters where no, this would have been
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  Speaker 4: pre Family was sorry. That episode of Webster Better where
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  Speaker 4: Webster crashes a space shuttle and feels bad about it.
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  Speaker 1: Right into a building. Yeah they had They were like whoops,
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, that would never happen. You'd avoid that building.
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  Speaker 3: What about a black incest porn site called family Mattress,
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  Speaker 3: you know where they all just share a bed.
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  Speaker 2: To Did I do her?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? You got it.
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  Speaker 2: The delayed airhorn that's the worst feeling in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Always the best, always blow like that.
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  Speaker 3: You like that iTunes that's scratching the itch there.
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  Speaker 1: Let's listen to the Space Shuttle Challenger Jesus Christ footage.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I mean, why wouldn't we have it muted?
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  Speaker 3: Normally?
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  Speaker 5: Three good fuel bills, three good abu.
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  Speaker 1: Oh get it over with alright? What is this a movie?
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  Speaker 1: There are several movies about the Space shuk challenging, but
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  Speaker 1: the government buries him.
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  Speaker 3: Is now on the way after more delays than NASA
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  Speaker 3: cares to count. Tom Mintier, I like that he's bitching
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  Speaker 3: about how many delays are were when you're about to
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  Speaker 3: see why there should have been a few more gasket
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  Speaker 3: related delays.
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  Speaker 1: I like that he jinxed it, like like when in
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  Speaker 1: an NFL announcer is like, this guy hasn't missed a
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  Speaker 1: field goal in thirty tries.
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  Speaker 2: It straight up looks like Wiley coyote just fucked up.
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  Speaker 3: It does. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, that initial explosion and then the path of the smokers,
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  Speaker 4: it looks like a diagram of a uterism philopiums.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, so women, women, nice, nice little
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  Speaker 3: observation there, mister woke sweater guy.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe those astronauts should have just had some craft macer And.
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  Speaker 1: That's a reference to heart Shape Podvana Ravana fan podcast
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  Speaker 1: that I uh I do with Andy. Yeah, the the
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  Speaker 1: Space Shuttle Challenger. What I think the saddest fact about
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  Speaker 1: that is.
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  Speaker 4: That it broke apart seventy three seconds and not sixty
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  Speaker 4: nine seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's I mean, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: So close, yeah, so close.
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  Speaker 3: If it had just been a little bit colder for
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  Speaker 3: those guys, if it was just three degrees Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that, I mean, if it happened at all,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll get into, yeah, but the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: crew was mostly alive for the explosion, yeah, and were
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  Speaker 1: likely killed by the impact when they hit the water.
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  Speaker 2: Which is insane watching that video. Could that le Hella exploded?
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  Speaker 1: And if you watch there is video out there of
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  Speaker 1: the crew cabin falling and it is excruciatingly long.
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  Speaker 4: Is it like uh when the in the Avengers?
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  Speaker 1: When like Cloverfield?
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  Speaker 3: Do you guys think about what you do in such
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  Speaker 3: a scenario often, because I I think about it almost
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  Speaker 3: every night before I go to bed all the time.
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  Speaker 3: My plan is usually I'm like, well, I guess I
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  Speaker 3: take out the iPhone notes, I try to tap out
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  Speaker 3: something to my mother, and then I sort of try
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  Speaker 3: to put it in the safest place I can find
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  Speaker 3: so she could get to it. I guess your ass
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  Speaker 3: My ass is probably if I can get my phone
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  Speaker 3: in my ass so probably satly wouldn't be the best
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  Speaker 3: chance I have. That's a good addition to the plan.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna be going to bed, going okay, So
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  Speaker 3: I should start practicing my phone ass that because it's.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna be harder to get it up there. And then
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  Speaker 2: you think, so you're gonna die.
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  Speaker 5: I'm imagine half way up here, I'm imagining it'll be
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  Speaker 5: pretty I wasn't picturing a walk getting a hard rectangle
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  Speaker 5: in my ass. I wasn't like, oh boy, cake, you're
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  Speaker 5: gonna die with it like halfway out?
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  Speaker 2: Well you, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It's good tail when when they get it from the morgue,
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  Speaker 3: someone's gonna jump on my stomach and just pop it out.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you need to get an Apple Watch. Oh well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, send it to your Apple Watch, roll it up,
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  Speaker 4: shove it up.
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  Speaker 3: Do a millennial Christopher walking. I can't fix you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want. I want to make sure my mom
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  Speaker 2: knows I loved you before I die. I'll make her
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  Speaker 2: root around my dead anus.
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  Speaker 4: Well she's not gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're gonna make her put a glove in and
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  Speaker 2: find It's what Connor would have wont Keith, your.
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  Speaker 3: Son, Keith is always a salty about my mom privilege.
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  Speaker 3: So you're always bitter this over there.
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  Speaker 2: Like my mom's never rooted around in a buttle.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, you gotta find those truffles somewhere. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: your mother's My mother's a treuffle sniffing hog.
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  Speaker 1: He just threw paper.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly think that a really funny, mature move for
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  Speaker 3: an audio podcast in the eye.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, not Keith's mother fisting him. I'd say my asshole
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  Speaker 4: every time, every time I want to talk about a challenger,
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  Speaker 4: know there, I think about that every time. If it
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  Speaker 4: starts going down, what if this's just false? I feel
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  Speaker 4: like I would do I wouldn't do anything, because I
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  Speaker 4: feel like that message is just going to be more
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  Speaker 4: sad than anything, and they're just going to keep it
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  Speaker 4: on their phone forever.
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  Speaker 3: But wouldn't you want that if you know, like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, you're someone you like to diet or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: like I love you, Adam or whatever, you know, some
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  Speaker 3: lame shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose I got to get my phone out and
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  Speaker 1: it's probably in the overhead, and you put your phone
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  Speaker 1: in the overhead sometimes, why what kind of en shit
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  Speaker 1: is that for?
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  Speaker 3: What are you trying to be in the moment on
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  Speaker 3: the plane, you fucking freak? No, I bring like that
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  Speaker 3: ship out, Wait until you go into a low altitude zone,
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  Speaker 3: send a couple of texts like.
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  Speaker 1: Me and then uh yeah, you know, no, I bring
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  Speaker 1: a tablet and watch movies and ship.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh yeah, I don't know what I would do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if I was on the Space Shuttle, I'd
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  Speaker 1: just be like, this sucks because it was eighty six.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they fucked in there?
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  Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah, I mean these were there were at least
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  Speaker 1: some sexual assaults.
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  Speaker 3: We got to go over the background information.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to.
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  Speaker 4: Think that these are these astronauts, they're the best and
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  Speaker 4: brightest that we have to offer.
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  Speaker 2: And there's so smart. How come that thing would expect
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  Speaker 2: they didn't build it? Yeah, well they didn't not blow
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  Speaker 2: it up either, So I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're the you know, they're they're ethical people, astronauts.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't feel I feel like it was not assaults,
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  Speaker 4: but a lot of just well mutual masters.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was too it was too late to
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  Speaker 3: moisten the most important gasket. But I mean, we've still
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  Speaker 3: got time for number two talking about the ass gas.
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  Speaker 2: That's the number two gaskets.
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  Speaker 1: That's the that's the ass gasket. So this conspiracy theory
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  Speaker 1: just started circulating in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: Which a new one.
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  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's that's a long time for it.
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  Speaker 3: That's usually there's at least one bed nineteen eighty nine
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  Speaker 3: paperback book about it, you know, right, and there relatively.
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  Speaker 1: There are books about Space Shuttle Challenger conspiracies, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about one at the end, but they're not as
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  Speaker 1: crazy as this one.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're far more plausible.
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  Speaker 1: But the theory here is that at least six of
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  Speaker 1: the seven people who are aboard the Space Shuttle Challenger
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  Speaker 1: are still alive.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Bump.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: And if you're listening to this, which you obviously are,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: if you just heard me say that, we'll have to
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: we'll have to put these pictures up somewhere that people
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: listening can follow along. We'll put them up on the
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: website on pops dot com. Just check the homepage. They'll
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: be there. And there are people who look a lot
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: like the Space Shuttle Challenger crew out there in the world.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: It's pretty goddamn close. It is fun.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just close enough that I can't think it's
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: completely stupid. But it's pretty stupid.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Andy, I know, is skeptical because he inherently trusts
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the government and everything they do, just like.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: You love the government so much.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I'm the government.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I saw your doppel gang or the other day, like it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: It's people look the same.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Nobody thinks about you. This never happen. But the one
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: who's ever said.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: People the amount of people who looked at me and like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you remind me of insert fact you meet, Kevin James,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: John Favreau. I had it back.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: But this is doppelgangers all doing the exact same work
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: in life.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: That's the strange part is that they're all have the
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: same kind of like hobbies and pursuit.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is sort of they've all sort of taken
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the same career path.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: And I's still I don't know. I had a guy
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: come up to me once and start talking to me
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: about a thing that I had no idea what he
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: was talking about. And we got a full five minutes
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: into a conversation before he was like, oh shit, you're
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: not who I thought you were. Like, I was like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about, man, I don't
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: know who you are. I've never seen you before. My
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: WoT you're on the space Challenge? Yeah, And he was
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: just like, why are you an astronaut?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just the one.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: You guys working with each other's science asks a quick question.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Quick fucking with me, man, float and space.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it's people, I don't know. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: never got to go I exploded on the way, really
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: tired of asking that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Man. That's the lamest part of the following is they
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: spend their whole life being like I'm gonna go to space.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: They just have to fall.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Well in a roundabout way.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Heavens really are I mean, that's that's why figure skating
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: is my favorite Olympic sport, because people work their entire
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: lives for that moment and then your ankle just buckles
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit and you fucking wasted everything. I love
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that so much.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I love watching people's lives be real.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, that's why I like it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is Uh, that is powerful.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And the idea of having to watch your whole life
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: end in front of your eyes while also wearing a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: sparkly tutor.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Right, that's a real and you have to rid up
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and still be happy.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: It's a real booyon cube of sadness that you enjoy
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: there with it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I love it. The agony of defeat. So Richard well, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Richard Scobie. He was the commander of the Space Shuttle Challenger. Uh.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: He was a pilot during Vietnam. Awarded the Flying Cross
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: for heroism during war.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: They'll just give that to anybody that's what the.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Right the flying cross?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And you can go out to his LinkedIn
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: page if you ow come on LinkedIn.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: What if there was a wrestler named the Flying Shit
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: whose finishing move was the iron cross.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be problematic, I think my He's like, all right,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: so now my finishing move, I have to have the
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Catholic Center Party authorize a enabling act and then I
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: can annex your balls, take the championship.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Belt and have the Swiss hide it in the vault somewhere.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy works for it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: He's the CEO of a company called something like Cows
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in the Cloud.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It's called like for when when Cows Fly advertising. It's
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: one of these like lame ass nineteen ninety ass firm
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: sort of names.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't get out.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: And space shuttles are are black and white and cows
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: are black and white. Well, and some of the people
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: and there in the cloud there you go.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be funny to do a cover of one
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: dovescribe as when cow Flying about the challenge.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You know you can there is a is it in
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: this article? There is a really funny picture this guy's company.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: One of their logos or one of the images on
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: their website. Now it's not here, where the fuck is it?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Is the Challenger exploding.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: No, it's a picture of a cow flying through the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: sky and there's a plume of smoke coming from behind
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: it that shaped like a six. And that happened with
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the space Shuttle Challenge.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Oh fuck, man. That's the thing about you. There's always
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: some bet like with the pizza gate. Shit too, there's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: always some sort of accident that's also a symbol for
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: like the devil in sixteenth century England. Yeah, you know that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Somehow we had in a movie theater I worked out
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: we had one of those toy grabber claw game machines
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: called the Challenger, and the top sign panel for it
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: was a space shuttle with a big claw coming out
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: of it. Oh shit, and I when they came to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I really wish i'd I wanted to steal that sign
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: before they got rid of.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: The machine, and I didn't. No, yeah, that's pretty fun.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: But anyway.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a uh yeah, we had an air
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: hockey table called the Amistad. I don't know why they
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: thought that was a good idea, but it was there
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: for like fifteen years in Ontario.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: This is the image that is on this company's website,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Cows and Trees. It's called and this guy still works there.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You can pull up his LinkedIn page. His name's Richard Scobe.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: What like, No, who designed that?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: See? Yeah, you know what?
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: No, fucking I believe in it exactly whole thing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is a weird. What is it about?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Like cheating everybody where? You just have to plant clues?
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I know, like, what is this a football spike? And clue?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Like if I got if I was dB Cooper, I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be doing a showing up in dB Cooper lookalike
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: contests and making my own hot sauce and all this
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: shit that these people do.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I think this guy definitely isn't from the Challenger, but
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he started the conspiracy just to drive traffic to his dumb,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: shitty LinkedIn page.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: That could be Oh that'd be a good move.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they do look alike.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: The Richard Scoby who was on the Challenger and this
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Richard Scoby.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: They both have weird like sleepy Steve Beemi.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna love it with you listeners. They both
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: look exactly the same.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I don't the nose come on there's there's a lot
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: of you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Your ears are the two parts of your body that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: never stopped.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Growing, Yeah, the interests of growing, and they're also the
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: easiest to change with plastics.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Obviously you haven't heard about my dick. I don't know
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: why I have tell me about.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear about it about.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that joke didn't really go with your sweater there, And.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Look, I'm trying a lot of new things.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: New year, knew me, new dick.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: It's not impressive. That's really no one thought it was.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no one even was thinking about it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I assume solid five.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: There are pictures of this guy on the website where
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: he doesn't look the same, But you have to keep
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in mind everyone throughout history has seen one or two
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: pictures of the astronaut Richard Scobi.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: She looks like Anthony Hopkins.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: He does look like Anthony Hopkins then a little bit.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, he can go out and look at
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: his LinkedIn page. We'll put links up on the website
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so you can see all this shit. The next person
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: living with adoppel Ganger out there Michael J. Smith. He
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was a pilot, also a pilot in Vietnam, logged four
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven thousand flight hours before joining NASA.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That's fucking Michael Smith.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see this again, I.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Don't see it. The eyes look different.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Well, no, they don't.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: They look exactly the same.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: They look like he's even got the same way.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: He looks like he's got the victumb nose, he's got
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: the bad big teeth.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: He looks like Pete Carroll, he does.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Well, no, man, he looks like an older version of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: this guy.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Well, he looks like he's about to chase his fat
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: husband around with a rolling pit, right, But he looks
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: exactly like the fucking quote unquote dead dude on the left.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Man, the guy, the version of him on the right
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: line like the pastor of every megachurch who's had to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: have like a whoops, I'm gay.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So is this guy except in the seventies, Yeah, it
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was whoops I touched kids.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whoops, I you know, blew up, honey, I blew
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: up the me Honey, I shrunk the number of parents
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the kids have.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Right. One of the other interesting things about these two,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the real Michael Smith is now a professor emeritus of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Engineering at UW Wisconsin. The Michael Smith who was on
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle Challenger, had a master's degree in engineering
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and was involved in all of the same fields. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: both were born in nineteen forty five, and they both
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have the exact same names, and they were both on
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle Challenger.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're both the same guy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sheep, what is so what is the idea behind
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: this theory? Exactly? Like why did they.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: That's one of the problems with this theory is no
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: one can explain that part was up to something.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's like I just feel like, if your
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: thing exploded, why keep them alive? But secretly, Like why
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: not be like we saved the astron a secret.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: If they don't change their goddamn names.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of them do.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, their first names.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: The translation we googled everybody with the name and.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: You're still the same. So, like, I just don't understand.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Like, why did Elvis Pick died on the toilet for
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: his fake death story? We'll never know, Andy, Yeah, some
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: questions just can't be answered.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Because the king had to humble himself to live forever.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Elvis died on the challenge, but at least the toilet.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Elvis didn't then go to like a music open mic
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: and say, I'm Elvis Presley, not the Elvis Presley.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Story of r kind of doing that in Argentina at
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: one point.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah mostly wait wait, Elvis.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Went to South America with like Mangola.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Karate trapped drug lords for the rest of his life.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: And that's where they hight Nazi war criminals. It's safe
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: to go down there and use the same name.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Well, the government uses it as a place to send people.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: That's like the that's like America's crawls.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Why because Argentina ever you knowuchos?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but are you a gaucho. You're the kind of
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: bloggery type that would be all up in arms about
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: this sort of thing. And if you're not really considering
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Argentina all day, it seems like a pretty good place
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: to put your Nazis to this podcast host, and can
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: we move on, Andy, I'm trying to prove that this
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: guy is also this guy.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Oh man, this one I don't see. This one is
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: just you don't see.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're I feel like you're being a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: little too.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: This is the sinbad fucking.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: This is an African American cheat and these are this
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: is the stickier one to discuss.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: First of all, the guy on the right looks like
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: a thick necked Lando cow. Just accept that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a little bit.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: But the guy on the left has a collar on,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: so you can't.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: See it's a little like Harrison Page from Sledgehammer.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Well, and and what's funny about you saying I don't
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: see the resemblance here? The explanation for this one that's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: his twin brother, so they probably look a little like wit.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Is that actually his twin brother?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: That's that's what when it comes to this guy who
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: which is Ronald McNair mission specialist and Ellison Onezuka also
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a Michelin mission micheline chef. Yeah, he's got a Michelin star.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: They the argument here is that, well, this is Carl McNair,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: which is Ronald McNair's twin brother, So they do look alike.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Andy, I don't I don't see that on these Wait,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: but so the twin brother thing is is re No,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: there's no, there's no proof of it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: So basically they just put two pictures of black guys
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: next to each other. Blow your mind. Well, well that's
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I like the idea that this theory started with him
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: not being able to tell these two Asian guys apart.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Then he's like, well, I do everybody it's not racist.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he just.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Got in trouble one time at a cocktail party. And
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: now he's like, no, I mean, I've got thousands of.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: People believe it's like some side felt the in thing
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: where two prove he's not a racist. He has to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: start believing the challenger was an inside job.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, and he walked with a cane for six months
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: at his job because he lied.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: So you, Andy, don't believe these two have twin brothers.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, okay, these these two guys, actually I can see.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Because this guy, well, okay, like the crows feeder, Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: because that's still acceptable.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: What Nope, go back to their goddamn picture. I'm not
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: just being performatively woke.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: That's great, great hearing your voice crack through this entire explanation.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Look at his teeth and his mouth, very different.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Nobody's teeth changed. I always have ever looked any different
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: over time. Shane McGowan's teeth, it's still exactly the same
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: as you were in nineteen seventy.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: You guys, we're literally studying the skull shape and bright. Dude,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: right now we are half a step from full on
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: e jenks. You're gonna get the fuck out of here.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the argument in both of these cases is
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that these are these men's twin brothers. Carl McNair, who
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you can also go to his concy. Well, that's the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist side there is that. No, they're not, that's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just that's just actually them and they're lying about the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: fact that they have twins.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Oh so it actually is the.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It's the theory and this person, Carl McNair exists.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: This guy's brother.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Goes around the country giving lectures about his brother's experience space.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, well yeah, so it's actually is a twin identical
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: twin brother, right all right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I still don't see it. I think the conspiracy.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Stand out rules.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Lying about that guy being his twin brother to cover
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: up something else.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Hell, they're white children, you don't know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: There's an aquaman virtue signaling.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I honestly don't see that. Rules so hard.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. And you kind of got owned here.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: It's just haens everybody.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Ah man, the bird is spoken.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: It's owned bird flying through the sky.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Uh, there is a website. We'll link to it along
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: with all of these pictures.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: The name of it is upsetting given that it's under
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the Asian guy.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: It's called big I dot com. And someone on in this.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Is actually just a Monsters Inc. Fan page. Weird.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They claim to have checked genealogy websites for proof of
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: either of these twin brothers and could not find any.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: So see, well, then that just means they're still alive. Yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that's all.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how did genealogy websites work.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: They're probably all full of misinformation.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I want to skip around a little bit. We'll talk
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: about Judith Resnik last because she's the most interesting. The
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: two that people have the most trouble with when trying
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to present this theory. One is Greg Jarvis. There's no
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: one out there looking like Greg Jarvis right now. No
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: one can find a doppelganger. Greg Jarvis just died, So
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: of course the conspiracy theory there is well, he was
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: actually on there and he was like disposable.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always an answer.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Because he's got the weakest background among everyone, like all
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: these other people had really like went to really prestigious colleges,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and he went to like he went to like ICC,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: which was Illinois Central College where I went for a semester.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: The first Divride graduate to go into space exactly.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: And yeah, where they need where that they needed a
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: licensed massage therapist on the challenge.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Hey, these Martians need someone to do their medical coding
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: and billing.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy, he has a vape repair certificate. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: guess it is good for the exhaust I.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Mean, I need twelve more hours of my apprenticeship before
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I can go pro.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, uh, but can you initial this form?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: There's there's nothing really out there that would indicate that
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Greg Jarvis is still alive. So NASA killed him. And
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: kind of the same thing with Christa mccauliffe, who is
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the most famous member the teacher. Yeah, she was the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: one who got everyone excited about this. Yeah, and she'll
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: come we'll talk a little bit about the Reagan theory
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in a second. And she comes up in that. But uh,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the picture of her that doesn't look like her at all,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: does go ahead and say it looks just.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Like it could I mean, it's not that close.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Those look like two different dudes. The one on the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: left looks like somebody from Winger, Like it's a rough look.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and those eyes are so different.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if Shark could.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Get a perm why did they let a plot device
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: from TJ. Hooker on The Space Show.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The one on the right is aggressively a different person. Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: The one on the right is Sharon mccauliffe, who is a.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: She looks like a Republican senator.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, well she's a professor from Syracuse, which
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is upstate New York, so almost certainly Republican. But uh,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: she I don't think looks like Christa mccauliffe. The one
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of the arguments here is that Christa mccauliff's actual birth
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: name was Sharon, So people okay, use that, And people
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: also argue, well, she was the second least valuable person
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: on that mission, so if anyone was gonna be in
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the actually in there to blow up.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I'd be willing to entertain this theory, if there was
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: a theory.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: But it's really there's no right, there's no.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I do like the idea of those two getting on
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and then the door just shuts behind them and they're
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: like what the fuck, and.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Then just everybody else on the crew just beating a
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: pipe against it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They're gonna kill the warriors.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Mile A monitor comes on at the control panel.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: They're all on their phones. Bricycle, they're all on their phones,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: which they had because they're in NASA.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I may have cracked this wide open. You know who
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: had a pretty big vested interest in the Challenger exploding.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: The memorial coin industry.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: That's a big coin again.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: They're all they're making all these uh, you know, commemorative proofs.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: So you gotta make it. You can't just commemorate a
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: proof of anything. You gotta have an explosion or some sort.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Of is just the tip of the iceberg. Those folks
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: have their tentacles and everything. There's the little pewter bells.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: There's the ceramic plates exactly.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: And since we there's everyone the world is too nuclearized
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: for for invasions and coups. Is like the good old days.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: We got to blow up like science ship now right,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: to keep the to keep the plates oven, to keep
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: the stamps flowing.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Those the little like house things like remember those?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember I had the whole set of
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: dead Challenger crew member being babes, and I knew they
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: were gonna be worth something. But my fucking mom threw
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: them away.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: You gotta buy each one because it comes with the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: piece of the challenger. Then you put them all together like.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Like like an inspector gadget toy from McDonald's.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I like the lego set didn't fit together.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, uh.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Something on the right there looks like Alan.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Judith Resnik, though. I think she is
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: among at least among the the simil larities. I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: hers is the craziest.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of little parallels.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: She worked at RCA as a design engineer and contracted
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: with NASA on several projects before joining the Space Shuttle mission.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And you can find her today as a professor at
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yale University, the Arthur Lyman Professor of Law.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: That looks like both white striper.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: She looks like Stephen Tyler.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Johnny Depp in Transparent Too.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: She looks like a ghost and a conjuring sequel.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Assistant Principal Sweeney Todds.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say his hair is awesome.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Do you think she ever calls up the guy that's
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: a professor at Wisconsin and is just like they put
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: me at Yale. We did it, buddy, Probably Blizzard people
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: got me into Yale didn't even make a.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Change my name.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I wonder if they're ever going to.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Like a big ten doing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Do they ever go to a conference together and like
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: you want a carpool and say, actually, maybe we should
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: in the carpool. Maybe of all the people to carpool
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: specifically could be bad.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe the two of us should never get into a
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: vehicle together.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Last time we tried something like that, we had the
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: lay low for twenty years.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So the side by side pictures of her, I think
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: are really interesting, especially this one where her mouth curls
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: up the exact same way as.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Do you have the video where she blinks her second
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: set of eyelids.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, these two white people look alike and.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Okay in some of the pictures I see it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: In this one she's holding the pen in one picture,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the other picture no pen. How do you explain that?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: The last one with the mouth curled, it's very and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the way her mouth is open in this picture.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: This one is dramatically different lighting, so she's gonna look
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: not exactly the same because the light's gonna be hitting
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: her face. She's in a really bright courtroom.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Just she actually never allows anyone to take photos of
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: her from that same angle anymore. Like she has a
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: team of security that follows her.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: That's smart.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: She's like Strii's ant you know, she has a good side.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: That's how you avoid up ending up on podcasts she is.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Did you guys know that? But streisand does that where
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: she's like when she does a late night show, she
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: makes him turn the whole set the other direction for
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: her good side to be.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: No, I just wouldn't book her.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel was like, she wanted to do that,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: and I said, well, yeah, I fucking talk about it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: And she says, you can't talk about it. He's like, well,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not booking you.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It gives that much of a shit about barbar Streis.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing Jimmy Kimmel's done that I respect
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: in years.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: What about when he exposed this government cover?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: What about when he died on the space shifle Challenger.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: We brought the juggies with us to find out if
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: these people are lying about dying.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Who is behind this theory? Like you say that this
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: theory was offered in twenty fifteen the Internet, baby, Okay,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: but is there like a central author.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I don't none that I've identified it just sort of
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: popped up.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Adam is saying all of this through a cartoon cloud
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: of pot smoke. The last eight words he said, each
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: one had a little bit more smoke come out, which
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: was great, and that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: The of like, I don't know, I didn't research it,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: like you don't want to show called conspiracy gig.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I put the video that the conspiracy comes from in
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the article. I don't like, I don't know the guy,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: but I'm assuming that's where the conspiracy I just probably
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I just looked.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: A him up, CEO of Cointech Enterprise.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, uh so yeah, that there's that part
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of the conspiracy, which I don't know. Some of those
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: people do look alike. Yeah, there's also a PolitiFact article
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: out there debunking this theory, but it mostly just bothers
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: me because it's one of those I bring this up
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: all the time. When there's a conspiracy theory that starts
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: circulating on the internet. We're always like, well, what's your source?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Who is that guy? What are his interests? But anyone
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: who debunks something will be like, see they debunked it,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter if it's like debunks at blogspot
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: dot com we're still like, no, this article proves it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: not true. And there's this PolitiFact article that's like, well, no,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: this is all lies, and all it's really doing is saying, well,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: all these people had different backgrounds and they couldn't have
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: been there at the same time. Well, that's all stuff
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you can fake, Like that's all like if.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure there's like family photos and stuff of
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: them being not on the Challenger.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Right, but that's not what But the federal government has
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: no ability to fudge the numbers and make a you know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it's the same shit. You pick up two cards and
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: you show one. It's a magic trick, you know, And.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It's not like they're doing that like I would. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: would be fine with citing this as evidence that this
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: theory has been debunked. If they went out and talked
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to the families and we're like, hey, do you have
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: like some sort of proof that your daughter wasn't also
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: on the Space Shuttle Challenger.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: That's not rude.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Likely your daughter widow. Your daughter looks like a dead astronaut.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: You're aim but you're aim there if you're aiming to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: debunk the theory, like you're helping.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I would say much less rude to ask the guy
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: that's teaching in Hawaii that's alive for his pictures than
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: the dead actual Yea, So if you're gonna bug somebody,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I would start, there.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Is your wife's still kaboomed? Okay, goodbye.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: But I just wanted to bring that up because that
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that comes up a lot on this podcast, where I'll
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: find articles where it's debunking it, and it's like.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you can just you can look for whatever the
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: thing you're trying to believe is. You can find someone
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: that'll help you get there. Yeah, and you can just choose.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I just acknowledge that if you want. I mean, it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: all out there.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I just think in this particular case, it's telling that
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: like they didn't change their names, and like just the
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: simple fact of like, you know, the logic idea that
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: like no one know four people can keep a fucking secret,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, and there's no this
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: theory doesn't have any motive behind it, there's no reason,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: there's no bigger picture, there's no scope to it. So
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: it's just like, what why you know? I all of
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: those things to other and make me go bullshit.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, just if anything, you think, like you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the ship crashes, the astronauts come out. If I'm NASA,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I'm making sure they are dead so they can't go
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: on the news and co.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, don't give them jobs in the same.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Thing like yeah, sure, it's like, oh we get we
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: give them good jobs and tell them to keep quiet.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: But no, you just sent somebody out there, and you
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: put one on each other.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: This was eighty six. We were killing Latin American societies left.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: So why why wouldn't we let a space shuttle explode?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Why would we let the astronauts?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm assuming the version of the
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: theories that the space Shuttle exploded because it was I mean,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: we're about to get to this, but it was poorly
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: built or whatever.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Right my my, uh, I guess I don't know. Less
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: fantastic theory of this would be maybe the government launched
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: the space Shuttle with no one in it and knew
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it was going to explode, but there's probably insurance money
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: or something to be.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: So what I'm seeing is that twenty eighteen was surprisingly
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: the biggest year yet for commemorative coin collecting.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Wow, so not even nothing happened though in eighteen thirty
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: two years after this, So yeah, there is a theory.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: And I find this one way more plausible that the
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Reagan administration, as part of its overall space mission, which
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: was like the Star Wars Defense Initiative and things like that,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: which actually wasn't a bad idea, but they basically.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: We wish to launch the before I, before I can
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: have a phone call without giggling and proving my paints.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: There was a Genesis video about it. Uh, there's an
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: entire book called Challenger Revealed, an insider's account of how
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the Reagan administration caused the greatest tragedy of the space.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: But that title needs more words.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: This isn't This isn't a yeah it's an Emo album,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: This isn't how I stopped learning not thinking about the bomb.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: This is just the way things are, right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But the government also lies about this, like they got
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: The government has not acknowledged that Reagan cost the fucking
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Challenger disaster.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they don't need to. I mean, the thing
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: is is that it's just like, this is how.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: The government works. So how do you decide when it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: just how the government works and when it's too insane
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to believe.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Because one is just it's just it's like causality is
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: just like ordinary causality that leads to terrible shit because
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: that's just life. And the other is.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Because we also know what we also did mk ultra
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and for what like if if we didn't find the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: documents about that, forever we would be like, Okay, if
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the if the CIA really did that, what were they
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: doing it for?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the only reason we found out is because
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: they misfiled a bunch of them. Yeah, and some like
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: fucking just dutiful paper pusher was like, Hey, I found
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: all this shit and that's right.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: That's the other thing. That shit happens all the time
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: where it's just like a bureaucratic mistake or a clerical error,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: and so stuff comes to light all the time.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But what happens way more is that they're just able
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to shred everything and if it fucking comes to light.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Because they almost got away with that with mk ultra.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: It was just one box of documents that got put
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in the wrong place. But how many other boxes of
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: documents have just all been shredded without being put in
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the wrong place?
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: You know, like king touch to him, isn't like he's
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: not the biggest fear of the most important guys. Just
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: the one they found that's the most well preserved. You know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I think if it's kind of the same thing, I's like,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: if that's the shit we found, yeah, you know, when
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: it's that insane, you got a figure. There's so. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: bet they've done some truly ridiculous shit, just didn't find
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: the worst one, completely unnecessary thing where I'm sure this
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: was part of some like hair brained, fucking square top
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: thought up plan or a bunch of fucking fifty year
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: old idiots got together and you know, ate pork and
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: decided that should kill some people so they could do
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: X and Y. Fucking communist countries. I don't know, maybe
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: fucking I'm not gonna spend a lot of time thinking
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: about it. They should do look similar though.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: It was a Cold War.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe most of them do.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I just it's most communists.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, But yeah, that one is a little
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: more belief.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Several movies about wrong about the Twins, so I'm probably
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: wrong about the whole thing.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's although if.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I'm wrong about the Twins, I'm also right about the
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: twins because they're just the same guy.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Wow, Sorry, you really brought this to a halt. Look
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: all twins look alike to you, now, Andy, what.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Look, let's put this behind us, so we'll throw on
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: something fun, maybe an Arnold Schwartzeneger movie, and think about
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: other things.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: So that's pretty much the conspiracy. When it comes to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the Challenger, it's that they're all still alive, and we'll
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: put the pictures up. People can go look, we'll put
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: video of the disaster up if you want to relive that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't really see. Why was there a reason that
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Reagan push it up to be? Was it to be
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: like politically advantageous? Dude?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: He wanted to He wanted the Teachers in Space program
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: to be already happening by the time his State of
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the Union address happened.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Oh gotcha, get of this, bitch.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I put in the space.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: We put a woman in space. They put two actually
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: yeah there were two, yeah, Judith, and they fucking left
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: them there and the Space Shuttle exploded, one for cooking,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: one for cleaning.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, twich, it's me Ronald Regan, It's me the freaking
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: present to the boy. I got that for you.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: We made the space suit with an apron on it.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: It's got your name embroidered right there. Now, buckle up,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: shut your mouth and die. We've already got a clone
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: ready to teach people about economics thirty years later.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: No one can hear you clean.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's a whole three dimensional plane. Nobody's gonna see it coming.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: You got a vacuum in the vacuum.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: You know was Now that I think about it, this
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: is Reagan, so there didn't have to be a reason, right, Yeah, it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Could just be for fun.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: God has told him this happened because I ate too
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: many JA beams this morning and go to sugar High.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Did you know Reagan legitimately believed we would survive a
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: nuclear war with Russia.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, he thought.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: He thought it was his mission from God to cause
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a nuclear conflict with Russia, and that because God was
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: on our side, we as a country would survive.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: That's the scariest thing I've ever heard.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And then well you don't believe that. And
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: then George Bush just kind of carried that same thing
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: on except with Isis. My favorite thing about Isis and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Us is that we both think Jesus is coming back
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: for our side, which makes me really want to see
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that final battle because if Jesus doesn't come back for us,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be fucking great.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I down the Eskimos and nobody else.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I'm really so to watch everybody get ghosted by Christ
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: as soon as the sea levels start to rise, and
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh no, we were counting on this, were we okay?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Awesome? Because there is that thing where they always talk
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: about aliens making contact with the Nazis, and it's like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: why were they contacting the Nazis.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: If you were if you were an alien they had,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: it'd be like they seem like they know what they're doing,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: like that if you didn't know the context being an
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: alien at all.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: But you have to know the context. You're an alien,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you know everything.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, smart enough to fly through the you're smart enough
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: to you can create enough energy to warp space time,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: which is to our understanding is that you know, the
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: limited primate life is it would take more energy than
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: there is in the universe to create an ol Kubia
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: drive system that could move you along faster than the
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: speed of light. So you're smart enough to do that.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I imagine you could you know, have systems available that would
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: analyze the the linguistic patterns and behaviors of people to
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: the point that you could determine the Nazis had some
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: bad ideas. Yeah, but what who says aliens?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Aliens don't necessarily love Jews. We don't know that.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of different approaches. Yes, Aliens might be
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: anti Semitic. They might be like, well, we used to
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: have Jews on our planet.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: And then we set them to you.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: We're anti gravity Semitic.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Uh. But or like it could be another clerical error,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: bureaucracy thing where it's like somebody mistranslated one word of
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: the of you know, German to the alien language.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: We spilled a slurm can on this. They misfiled we
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: UFOs for the wrong guys.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: It can also be that they know what's up, but
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: there's like, hey, this ship's between y'all, Like you know
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Who knows? Damn you aliens.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I believe Aliens would buide by the prime directive, but
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: you know, it's.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Probably all right, let's get the funk out of here.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Andy say goodbye later, Keith say goodbye bye, Connor sagabye, goodbye, everybody.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: We love you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: People.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: They de