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#2225 Perv Glasses and Glassholes - Patrick Bonello · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: Do you reckon we can start the show? We're already starting.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: I'll just leave this in. Hi, everyone.
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: Patrick and I are comparing T-shirts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wearing Star Wars and he's wearing a NASA shirt
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: and he selfishly is wearing a fucking black musclehead bogan singlet.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: Like the musclehead bogan that she is.
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  Speaker 3: I was a bit worried because we just ripped our
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  Speaker 3: tops apart and showed our logos and I thought for
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  Speaker 3: a second that she was going to– yeah, anyway, let's
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  Speaker 3: not go there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any logos to show.
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  Speaker 5: No. Oh, so many things.
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  Speaker 1: You opened the door, Patrick, and that is like we're
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: 12 seconds in. Can we just– can we not– what
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  Speaker 1: about you two before we pressed go? Tiff was– Tiff,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you tell everybody what you said?
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to tell anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It had to do with the placement of our
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  Speaker 3: Zoom screens, and let me put it this way, Craig's
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  Speaker 3: on the bottom.
• 1:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No. And can I say, I didn't, I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: get into the conversation. It was just Patrick and Tiff giggling.
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  Speaker 2: Like fucking small children. Anyway. Hi everyone.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: It's the You Project. It's Jumbo and it's Patrick and
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  Speaker 1: it's Tiffany Ann. And we're just here to talk about
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  Speaker 1: who the fuck knows what I'm going to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what allegedly something to do with technology. Um, but,
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a very loosey-goosey kind of conversation, I'll
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  Speaker 1: say that. Patrick, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: I've got my schnauzer next to me.
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  Speaker 5: He's cuddled up. I can pat him while we're chatting,
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  Speaker 5: which always makes me relaxed, more relaxed.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. I love you stroking your schnauzer while we talk.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a visual nobody needs.
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  Speaker 5: You're just jealous because you don't have one to stroke.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking hell, that's the hairiest schnauzer I've seen.
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  Speaker 1: Tiff, how are you over there, schnauzer-less?
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  Speaker 4: Apart from being schnauzer-less, I'm fabulous, yes.
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  Speaker 5: She can whip it out though.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're, well, she does have another animal,
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  Speaker 1: but you didn't mention that.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been funnier. Yeah, and you waved that
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  Speaker 2: one off, didn't you? Yeah, I did. You kind of.
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  Speaker 5: In my head.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you cognitively walked up, you opened the door
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  Speaker 1: a bit and you went, fuck it, I can't say
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  Speaker 1: anything about her feline, so I will go to the
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  Speaker 1: next door, I will go to the next door and.
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  Speaker 2: Come up with whip it out. But not bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all in under three seconds, like.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good. What do you reckon, this is just off
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  Speaker 1: the back of that, what do you reckon your, this
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  Speaker 1: is an impossible question slash answer, but just your vibe,
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  Speaker 1: compared to when you were 20 years old, what do
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  Speaker 1: you reckon your data processing speed, in other words, how
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  Speaker 1: quick your brain works or slow, what do you reckon
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  Speaker 1: it is to, let's say mid-20s when you're probably at
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  Speaker 1: your peak, what do you reckon your data processing or
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  Speaker 1: meant to be at your peak is?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think, Patrick?
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  Speaker 5: I know that sometimes I miss words.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a very extensive vocabulary and I just throw
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  Speaker 3: other words in.
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  Speaker 5: How's the data processing?
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  Speaker 3: I think I have so much more information in there,
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  Speaker 3: so there's lots more to draw on.
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  Speaker 5: So potentially, you've got this recall.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to ascertain because I'm drawing from so many
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  Speaker 3: different experiences that I can just cherry-pick. Is there a
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  Speaker 3: biological kind of answer to that question that you can
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  Speaker 3: give us, Craig, from your study?
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  Speaker 1: Not really. I mean, because it's neurology, it's your brain,
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  Speaker 1: it's chemistry, it's kind of the intersection of psychology, physiology, neurobiology,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a subjective assessment. There are definitely tests that
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  Speaker 1: you can do, but what I'm talking about more, I guess...
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't specify, but like in the moment in
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  Speaker 1: the conversation, your data processing speed, Patrick, seems about 1.5
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  Speaker 1: to the average person. It's like, you know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: in real time, I think my data processing speed, just
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  Speaker 1: because I do this all the time is talk to people.
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  Speaker 1: And Tiff, I know that when you listen to podcasts,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, fuck that. You listen on two, don't you? 2.0.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I really care about what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: but say it fucking faster. Come on. You know, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know where we're going. Just get it out though
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  Speaker 1: so I can, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: How does 0.5 rate on the scale? What was yours?
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  Speaker 1: What would your processing speed be? This is like, this
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  Speaker 1: is bro science. But the truth in what we're, well,
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  Speaker 1: what I mean is we do all process data as
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  Speaker 1: in inbound stimuli, things that are happening around us, whether
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  Speaker 1: that's words coming from someone's face, whether it's an accident
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  Speaker 1: unfolding in front of you, a situation that perhaps you
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  Speaker 1: should intervene or not. Just the way that your brain
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  Speaker 1: interprets the world around you and responds to the world
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  Speaker 1: around you and the speed at which you do that
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  Speaker 1: is what we could call data processing speed or cognitive speed.
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  Speaker 1: And again, this is loosey-goosey science, but it is what happens.
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  Speaker 1: But I think.
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  Speaker 1: Like I've been more scared about my brain going shit
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  Speaker 1: than my general body going shit because like my brain
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  Speaker 1: is my tool. That's the only resource I have in
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  Speaker 1: my kit bag. So one of the reasons also I
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  Speaker 1: did my PhD is like just I knew that I
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  Speaker 1: would have to have heavy cognitive load for quite a
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  Speaker 1: long time. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I know he's looking up something.
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  Speaker 1: Tiff, what do you think?
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  Speaker 6: I think he's just doing a quick crossword to keep
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  Speaker 6: himself sharp actually.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually looking for an issue of National Geographic
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  Speaker 3: that I recently purchased specifically about the brain. It came
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  Speaker 3: out about two months ago, and it's a whole issue,
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  Speaker 3: just about 100.
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  Speaker 5: Things about your brain. It was amazing to read through.
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  Speaker 3: But one of the most interesting things about it was
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  Speaker 3: your processing of your brain.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to recall.
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  Speaker 3: The exact phrase, but effectively you– start saying it before
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  Speaker 3: you think it almost. Basically, your thought process has already
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  Speaker 3: delivered the chemicals to your mouth to start the lips
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  Speaker 3: moving almost before you've had the conscious thought. It's a
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  Speaker 3: staggeringly interesting thing, and it makes us realize how phenomenal
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  Speaker 3: the supercomputer we've got sitting on our shoulders is.
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  Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is, with all the study and research
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  Speaker 1: and years of exploration into the brain, nobody knows how
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  Speaker 1: much we don't know, but I'm guessing it's about 98%.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The actual edition was called Your Brain, A User's Guide
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  Speaker 3: to 100 Things You Never Knew.
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  Speaker 5: And it's really good. I'm loving it. I've read it.
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  Speaker 5: I've been through it cover to cover and was totally absorbed.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Tiff, your communication and your presence and your
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  Speaker 1: ability to focus is and hold a high-level conversation compared
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  Speaker 1: to five years ago, it's like you're 20 years younger.
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  Speaker 1: Like your brain seems to, in this capacity anyway, but again,
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  Speaker 1: this thing is context and activity and task dependent sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: If Melissa starts talking to me about tech and, as
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  Speaker 1: in explaining to me what we're doing behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: with fucking building AI bots and agents. I'm just thinking
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  Speaker 1: about a pie. I'm like, I want a pie. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: does that make sense? I'm like, yep. I'm like, nah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not interested. So I think you've got to be interested.
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  Speaker 5: How technology works. Give me a pie chart and then
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  Speaker 5: section everything.
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  Speaker 2: See, you came up with that quick.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's do some actual what we're here for,
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  Speaker 1: which is exploring the world of tech and a bit
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  Speaker 1: of science and a bit of tech regulation and wellness
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  Speaker 1: and health and the whole fucking shooting match we do
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  Speaker 1: here at no extra cost. We chuck in all the
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  Speaker 1: non-tech stuff, which also equals no extra cost.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like haven't we flogged smart glasses, Patrick? I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we've spoken about them 20 times.
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  Speaker 2: Is there something new?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Countries are trying to ban them. Legislation's going in. Meta
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  Speaker 3: claims it's going to be able to brick smart glasses
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  Speaker 3: where people try to obscure the little light that indicates
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  Speaker 3: whether they're recording or not.
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  Speaker 5: So if you try to cover over the light.
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  Speaker 3: Sensor, so if I'm wearing some smart glasses, we're in
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  Speaker 3: a room together and I surreptitiously try recording, a little
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  Speaker 3: light should come on next to the camera. But of course,
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  Speaker 3: people have got around that by texturing over it or
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  Speaker 3: covering it with a sticker so they can't see when
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  Speaker 3: you're recording.
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  Speaker 5: See, I'm in two minds about this whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: My biggest challenge is how many people, they're calling them
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  Speaker 3: perv glasses, glass holes of people.
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  Speaker 5: Who use them. But the reality of it is, for
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  Speaker 5: some people, smart.
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  Speaker 3: Glasses are going to be a life changer for them
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  Speaker 3: to communicate in other languages, real-time translation. for people who
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  Speaker 3: may have dementia to be able to navigate the world,
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  Speaker 3: get reminders, for people who are vision impaired. The question
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  Speaker 3: that I want to put forward is, How many people
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  Speaker 3: are actually perverts who are using them to record surreptitiously?
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  Speaker 3: And if they didn't have the glasses, they've got a
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  Speaker 3: bloody phone on them that has a much higher resolution
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  Speaker 3: and probably a better zoom and they could do the
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  Speaker 3: same thing. The reality of it is we're talking about legislation,
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  Speaker 3: countries blocking the sale of them all over the world
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  Speaker 3: because of such a tiny little bit of the population.
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  Speaker 5: Now, don't get me wrong. I want to protect people.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody should be recorded without their consent.
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  Speaker 3: But technically, in a public place, if you are walking
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  Speaker 3: down the street, Craig can take a photo of you
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  Speaker 3: or record a video of you.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing- Don't put me in the conversation. It just
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  Speaker 1: sounds to me like you are a perv glass owner
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  Speaker 1: who's fucking defending his perviness. I don't even have smart glasses.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have them. I don't own smart glasses.
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  Speaker 1: And not to segue into impervious, but- What a good word. No.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I 100% agree with you because you think
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  Speaker 1: about there are so many things that we do have
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  Speaker 1: that are legal that can be used for good, not bad,
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  Speaker 1: not good. You know, I mean, yeah. So is it
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  Speaker 1: going to happen in Australia? Do we think?
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  Speaker 5: Well, who knows?
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  Speaker 3: I think the Greens were moving to try to legislate
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  Speaker 3: for a ban, a temporary ban on smart glasses.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is that they're still flooding into the market.
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  Speaker 3: We can't even stop illegal cigarettes, let alone smart glasses
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  Speaker 3: and technology. So the answer to your question is probably not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my.
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  Speaker 5: builder.
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  Speaker 3: I was doing a job on site, flying my drone,
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  Speaker 3: doing some video recording for a builder that's.
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  Speaker 5: A client of mine.
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  Speaker 3: And he had a small, it looked like a, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, just a little small box, maybe the size
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  Speaker 3: of a matchbox. And he said, oh, this is my
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  Speaker 3: AI companion that I can use to record all my conversations.
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  Speaker 3: And then it summarizes everything that I've spoken about. And
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, have you been recording us? And he said, no,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. He said, but if I'm talking to a customer,
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, isn't there disclosure first? Do you tell them?
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  Speaker 3: that you're going to record that conversation because he could
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  Speaker 3: put it in his pocket and you wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Same with your phone. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You can hit record, put it in your– I mean–
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  Speaker 1: Do you do that– No, I can't be bothered.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: No, I remember everything, Patrick.
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  Speaker 5: But think about the benefit of being in a meeting.
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  Speaker 3: You know, once upon a time, the secretary of every
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  Speaker 3: organisation I've ever been on does the hardest job. You've
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  Speaker 3: got to take the notes, take the minutes. But sit
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  Speaker 3: a device there, summarise the meeting. Tiff said this, Craig
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  Speaker 3: seconded it, Patrick said, yeah, no problem, and it was passed.
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  Speaker 3: You know, all that sort of stuff, the laborious part
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  Speaker 3: of being the secretary.
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  Speaker 5: I've taken notes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, see, Tiff's got one.
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  Speaker 5: In front of her. Look at that. She's frantic.
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  Speaker 4: She arrived yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, did I?
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  Speaker 5: I mean the little box you've got. Can you tell
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  Speaker 5: us what it is?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, look at you.
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  Speaker 2: Look at you.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: You just cannot stop from opening the innuendo door. I'm
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: going to call you Patrick Innuendo.
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  Speaker 2: You don't mind getting innuendo, do you?
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  Speaker 5: Innuendo? I thought I didn't say it, but you had
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  Speaker 5: to say it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that just, I mean, that was just like a
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  Speaker 1: fish on the end of the line that I needed
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  Speaker 1: to grab.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you need to reel that one in. Tell us, Tiff,
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  Speaker 5: about your new gadget.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad you brought this up because I was
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  Speaker 6: going to bring it up today because I think the
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  Speaker 6: same thing.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I've got this.
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  Speaker 6: It was recommended to me by one of my friends
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  Speaker 6: who does a lot of coaching as well, and when
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  Speaker 6: he gets coached himself, records the sessions, and he said
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  Speaker 6: that you just get such a great summary. And I
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: was like, well, I'm getting mentoring sessions every week and
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  Speaker 6: one of my frustrations is they aren't always great at
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  Speaker 6: giving me the notes that I want and the to-do
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  Speaker 6: from it.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought, well, I'm going to try this out. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like what are the rules?
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  Speaker 6: You can just whack it on your phone and record
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  Speaker 6: every conversation and there's no– unless you're ethical, there's really no.
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  Speaker 2: But you just make people aware.
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  Speaker 1: With my coaching, like I started, as you know, with
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  Speaker 1: seven new coaching clients two times a week last week.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: So 14 new sessions a week, only for 28 days,
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  Speaker 1: thank God. But they're all awesome, by the way, if
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: you're listening, you're all fucking awesome. But not all of them,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: but some of them because it was a little bit more,
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  Speaker 1: I felt the work was going to be a bit
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  Speaker 1: deeper and more complicated. I said, are you okay if
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  Speaker 1: I record this? Because it's on Zoom. And they're like,
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  Speaker 1: of course. I go, nobody ever in the world except
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  Speaker 1: me and you is going to hear it. And I
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: don't even listen to it. I just download that and
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: then turn that into a synopsis, like a dot point
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  Speaker 1: of what we spoke about. And then I just go
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: session three with TIFF. Here's the dot points of what
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  Speaker 1: we spoke about. So when I get session four, I
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: go look at the dot points and I'm back in
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: the game. I think stuff like that, when people are
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: aware and there's a productive, positive use for it, it's
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  Speaker 1: an amazingly good tool. But I think to both of
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  Speaker 1: your points, like people need to be aware that they're
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  Speaker 1: being recording. Otherwise, it's a completely different thing being recorded,
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  Speaker 1: I should say.
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  Speaker 3: Tiff, could I just ask, can you just tell us
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  Speaker 3: the name of the brand of the little recorder that
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: you've got, what it's about, how much it costs you?
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  Speaker 4: This one, it was interesting.
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  Speaker 6: There was two that looked exactly the same. I can't
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  Speaker 6: even remember the other one's brand, but this one was
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: Hay Pocket. It was $ 200 and you can have a
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: free version of the subscription or a paid. I'm trialling
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: the paid and then I'll do the free and I'll
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: see what the difference is. And that is just your
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: summarising and the app features. The other one I believe
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  Speaker 6: was less expensive to purchase outright at about $ 300- ish, $ 300
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  Speaker 6: or $ 400 a year subscription. That's the one my friend uses.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, one of the other things I was interested
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  Speaker 6: in is, like Craig, when I'm coaching people, often I'd
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  Speaker 6: like to call them when I'm out walking the dog.
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  Speaker 6: But I think, well, if I've got to write notes,
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to be out missing that and getting
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  Speaker 6: home and forgetting. So I was like, well, they're on
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: those calls. How many calls can I make when I go, hey,
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  Speaker 6: I'm just going to record this for some notes and
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: then I can be out and about in the sunshine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Can you just tell people how big that is because
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: people are trying to picture it maybe and I'm thinking
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: that is very small and slim, like it's a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: It is slim.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably five millimetres thick.
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  Speaker 3: It stands.
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  Speaker 6: Sticks like a magnet on the back of your phone.
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  Speaker 6: So it's got a tiny little magnet ring that sticks
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  Speaker 6: on the back of your phone. It's just over 55
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: centimetres wide. So it's about the size of a business card,
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  Speaker 6: 55 by 90.
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  Speaker 1: Half the size of your phone, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Can I say something?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Patrick.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: When you stick that to your phone, that records from
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the phone. So there's no– oh, wow, look at that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: So there's no– We probably should make that into a
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: reel and then people could know exactly what we're talking about.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: So you don't have to plug anything. It just records.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: It just records.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: It's got two modes.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: It's got conversation mode and then it's got call mode
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: and the call mode uses a contact mic, a little
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: bit like, I guess, your Aftershocks or your Shox headphones
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: that kind of a bone conductor, whatever.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And the thing with this too, Craig, is disclosure, it
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: makes life so much easier for clients you're dealing with.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: And it made me recall a moment when I went
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: with a very dear friend of mine who's since passed away.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: He was going through a cancer journey and he was
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: going to a specialist who was diagnosing his second cancer.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And he said, oh, I've got so much going on
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: in my head. Can you come with me so you
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: can remember what the specialist said? Now, people going to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: medical appointments, if you're a single person and you don't
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: have a spouse or you go in and suddenly the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: doctor says this, this, this, this, this, your emotions are
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: running high to be able to have that recall and say, okay,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: this is what I need to do for the treatment
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: or this is where I need to go next. I've
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: got to go to Peter McCallum and I've got to
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: do whatever it happens to be. But that's where- Again,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the use of this technology, whether it's smart glasses, because
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: one of the other things, there's a lovely story that
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I saw from the UK in The Guardian about a
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: guy who is visually impaired and his smart glasses have
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: changed his world for him. He can now use the
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: smart glasses to describe what is going on around him,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: the direction that he's moving in to navigate. He just
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: gave this beautiful story about about how his whole world
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: has changed, being totally blind and now using these smart glasses. So,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: you know, it's again, I really feel frustrated. You know
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: what it's like, Tiff? It's like the dog walker who
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: doesn't clean up his dog's poo. I clean up after
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: my dog. There's one person in Belan who I swear
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: never cleans up after their dog.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: What are their names?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: What's his name? I haven't found the mysterious Pua.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But what it does is it makes all us other
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: dog walkers, all us other dog owners look bad because
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: of one person who doesn't clean up after their dog.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: And that's what it's like with Perv Glasses.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: So you walk past that poo, you don't clean it up.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not cleaning up some other dog's poo. It's like
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: changing someone else's kid's nappy. Like this is, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: personal stuff.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: It's okay. Little Fritzy's okay.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: And there's something about, you know, when you pick up
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: your dog poo and then you get the second bit
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: and it's cold and you go, oh, that wasn't my dog's.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, can you two stop? Do you want no listeners?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Half of our listeners are just chomping into their fucking
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: breakfast and spewing a bit in their own mouth. What
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is wrong with you? Do you not have any social awareness? Oh,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: let's talk about– and when you pick up and there's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a warm bit of poo and then there's a cold
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: bit of poo, no one wants to hear that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Tiff.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Edit that shit out. On a really cold day, do
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you just hold– Oh, shut up.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It's so warm.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just going to wait till the next bin.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, because it keeps your hand warm?
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's like poo gloves. It's like thermal poo warming.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You could do a whole thesis on that, Tiff.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Fucking hell.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Sorry, everyone, if you're eating your breakfast or lunch.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Patrick, I love this story.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Sydney abuser jailed after remotely controlling.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, not necessarily controlling the Tesla, but basically.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what you wrote. So I just read out
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: what you wrote.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Like, don't give me a sentence and then tell me
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I got it wrong when I read out your own
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: fucking words.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: That's the ultimate in bullshit.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, isn't it? It's called clickbait, you know? Clickbait.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you'd tell me off for reading what
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you wrote.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: You were baited.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Correct me.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, so the court findings revealed that what this guy
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: tried to do to his partner was activate... Well, he
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: did try to take over the car using valet mode.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: So while she was driving... So it basically throttled the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: car to a maximum speed of 40K on a really
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: fast road. So, yeah, effectively, he took over control of
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the car by trying to throttle it down into that
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: valet mode. If you can take over that remote, I mean,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: it's a frightening thought that somebody could do that to
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: get into your vehicle while you're driving it effectively. I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: he's been given, he was penalized initially $ 450, 000 in 2017.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: For mistreating other workers. So this guy is not a
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: nice bloke.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: And so he's got a, you know, his profile has been,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I guess, you know, really clearly put down in black
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and white.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: He's not a nice bloke.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: And now it's been revealed that, you know, this guy
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: has claimed that he did these awful things to his
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: former partner to try to track her, to harass her
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and effectively even try to endanger her by throttling the car.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: It seems to.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Me a very likely and very logical progression, not a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: good progression. Maybe it's a regression of sorts that because,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you know, cars are becoming more and more computer and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: less car, so to speak that, I mean, if you
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: can get into other people's accounts and hack people's stuff, then,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you know, it's, it's only a matter of time before
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: people start and they, I mean, it's been suggested that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: some high-profile people who knew things that some governments didn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: want them to know, this is exactly what happened to them.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Like, that's the theory.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: People with no depression or know anything driving off the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: road and into trees or into rivers.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, how do we stop that?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: If a car is becoming more and more tech-dependent, how
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: do we stop it from being hacked? I know there's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: no answer right now to that, but it's an interesting thought.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it is, yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: As more autonomous control is brought in and less driver control,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: there's that possibility that it could be taken over. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: don't know what the answer is. Go and buy a
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: secondhand car.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Get yourself a bloody.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: What's that thing you've got sitting out? So Nissan, what
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I sold it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I sold it two weeks ago. My little Nissan NXR coupe.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I had it for 31 years.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I drove it 500,000 kilometers. And I made the decision
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: to let it go.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: And I basically gave it away.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Just to push it out of the automotive nest and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: let it fly one more time.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, though.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I was pretty excited because I've only driven it once
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: since COVID and charged it up and.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: It purred like a little kitten. It was beautiful. Wow.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And who did you sell it to?
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: A guy who owns a pizza shop. Does a bit
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: of gardening as well.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I'd met him through a friend and he saw the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: car and thought, man, that's awesome. Offered me a ridiculously
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: small amount for it. And I thought, that's just rude.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And then I thought about it a bit more and
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: added an extra 500 bucks to it and said, you
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: know what? Yeah, just take it. I think I was
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: happy for it to go to a good home. 31
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: years is a long time. It was my second car,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: but it was a great little car, little T-top. So
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the roof sections came off.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good car.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But you're also paying rego and insurance on it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Well, no, this year I decided to drop. I had
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: on club.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Plates, so reduced registration, which was really good. I was
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: a member of the Nissan Car Club, but decided to
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: let it lapse. And I thought I'm paying insurance on
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: a car I'm not driving. So that's why I made
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the decision to.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Let it go. But yeah. But you're right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: You could buy a secondhand car that doesn't have all
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the bells and whistles. But, you know, I think about
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the safety features in cars too. Lane assist and adaptive
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: cruise control that I love. Heads-up display, HUD.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Remember that, Craigo?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: HUD.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure do. Sure do.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love my heads-up display. I couldn't drive a
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: car without HUD.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got rid of my fancy car that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: basically did everything for you because I felt like I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: was a passenger in my own car.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And now I'm back in my.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: High-performance, super-duper Suzuki Swift 2019 chick magnet. I mean, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: tell you what, when I drive up Hampton Street, what
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I would like to say now is so funny, but
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I can't. I can't.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: No, I can't. No, no, I would definitely get in trouble,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but you two would do a wee in your pants.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Made a note to check in after the show.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I know you did.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this means, which is why I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: want to ask you about it because it seems interesting.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Alex Gibney's four-hour documentary shakes Elon Musk at Venice. Could
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you explain what that sentence means?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Well, Alex Gibney is a documentary producer, and he followed
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Musk for a long time in terms of just documenting,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: looking at lots of footage of things that he's said
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: over the years, interviewed particularly one of Musk's I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you'd call ex-wives. And he's doing this expose that was
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: launched at the Venice Film Festival.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: And it's evidently Musk is kind of really ropeable about this.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: But wait for this.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: He offered Ashley Sinclair, he does this big expose in
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the interview, and he offered her something like $ 60 million
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: to not talk to him. massive about 40 million US
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: dollars so about 60 million Australian dollars he offered her
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: to do an NDA and not to speak and that's
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: how rattled he was about his life story or elements
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: of him coming out in this documentary so that's that's
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the reported information it was um an article in a
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: publication called Futurism. But, you know, this guy, Alex Gibney,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: he's done a four-hour documentary. I don't know that I
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: could sit and watch anything for four hours about it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Also, I mean, like, it might be true, it might
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: be bullshit, it might be a bit of both, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: even let's assume it's all true. like if it wasn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk, nobody would want, like he's riding on his
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: fame and notoriety. He's probably the most well-known person on
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the planet, almost. Like there ain't many people in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: world who don't know who he is. And he's using
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that as leverage to get his documentary scene. And I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's like, okay, why do we all need
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to know what, he did or didn't do.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Well, one of the things is, I guess the thing
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: is he's out there. He's the richest person on the
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: planet and he influences so much of our society.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's done good or bad at all.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's cool, but that's all the public
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: stuff influences them. So now we're going to dig up
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: all these secrets and make that public. Well, that's not
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: his choice.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: No, but people love that. Exactly. Yeah, that's why reality
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: TV is so popular. That's why people listen to your podcast.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Well, this is not reality TV.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's not far off.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: This is like fucking food for your brain.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Is it?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: This is like, oh, yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Do you know how smart our listeners are now?
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Well, they got smarter after listening to you.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Of course they did. They're all fucking dummies at the start.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Now they're all professors.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to take myself out of this conversation
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: because I don't think that way.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Cause, cause you want to fucking, they know that I'm joking.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: That's the difference. That's called fuck. This is the thing
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: in 2026.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You've got, you say something funny, then you've got to
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: go put an asterisk and go, by the way, everybody,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't actually mean that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: That's called humor.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Here's the disclaimer. Here's the human disclaimer. It's like, fuck,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: that's where we're at now. Well, the fact that you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: can swear, that's good.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, good for you. I mean, you like yourself.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, if people were bothered by swearing,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: they would have stopped listening 2,000 episodes ago. Yeah. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it's funny because I get newbies, people who have obviously
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just jumped on and then subsequently probably jumped out, who
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: still send me emails saying, saying something like, oh, for
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a person who's allegedly got some intelligence, you don't speak
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: like an intelligent person. I'm like, thanks, Dave.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: All the best.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And fuck you, Dave. You don't like swearing? Don't swear.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking great at it. I excel at it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you just need to drop the F-bomb because it
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: just seems like the right word to use at the time.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, I've heard a few people drop
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the F-bomb that you would never pick because they never
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: would publicly, but behind the public door.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Do you reckon the Queen did?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: No. No.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: On behalf of my husband and I, fuck.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I knew you were setting yourself up to do a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: bloody impression then. Because I've heard the Queen four times.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'll go, here we go. The Queen's coming. But I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: will say I'm not mad at it. So anytime you
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: want to drop the Queen in, I think it's good.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's sister denounces inundation of posthumous AI tributes. There
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: have been a lot of. There have been a lot
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of Dolly tributes, I will say, even though that shouldn't
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: fall in my algorithm, whatever that means, Patrick. They've been
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: popping up all over. Yes, it appears that Dolly Parton.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Has now been the subject of many, many tributes and
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: not all of them have been authentic.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: That sounds better than your real voice.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You should do that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I get this.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It would be very upsetting for the family to suddenly
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: have people doing video selfies of Dolly Parton.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: That don't exist.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Ah, I didn't.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's what she means.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: That's what she means.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: So she's calling it fake AI garbage.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And look, some of them might just be different scenarios
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: involving Dolly Parton, but if they're not authentic, they're not her.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing that she's struggling with.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: They're grieving. The family's grieving.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And how would you be if on your Insta, you
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: keep getting these videos that that were not real of
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: your sister who's just died so i can understand my
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: family is is you know pretty upset about it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's somewhat insensitive and self-indulgent negatistical when you're pretending
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that you got a photo taken with uh dolly australia
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: proposes opt out with 10 with 109.2 million in fines
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: what does that mean proposes algorithm opt out it's This.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Has caused a massive, massive rebuttal from the Trump administration.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: This is an interesting one. It's causing a lot of
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: heat at the moment. At the moment, do you remember
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: what it was like on social media in the good
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: old days where Mark Zuckerberg said, you can just connect
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: with your friends? And then when you went on Facebook,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I could see what Tiff was doing. I could see
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: what Craig was doing. And you didn't get all the
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: other crap coming up. that kind of tried to keep
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: you on board. So originally, social media was connecting socially
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: with people that you knew and your friends and that
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: sort of stuff.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: And that's all that came up in your feed.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: We now know that that's not the case, that the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: sinister algorithm is throwing all this crap out.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: But not only that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Sometimes the stuff that comes out that's being shown to
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: young people is inappropriate. There's a lot of fake content
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: on there. And so the federal government in Australia is
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: now trying to bring out what they call a digital
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: duty of care legislation to try to give you the
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: option as a person using social media to turn off
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the algorithm. So you have an option to switch the
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: algorithm off and not get all the stuff. Some people
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: may want to keep it on there. Some people may
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: like to see cat videos.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: But the reality of it is you can't turn off
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: the algorithm. You can't go past the crap. And this
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: is what– so basically it's called the MyFeedMyWay statutory framework. Now,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: this has been presented, and they're talking about two things.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: One is– getting the new technology in place, forcing Meta
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: and all those companies with social media to be able
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: to initiate this. And the second aspect is, if they
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: don't do it, to propose really big fines, fines of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: over $ 100 million if that can't be put in place.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So they're called civil penalties.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Now, this is.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: This has caused a major uproar in the US because
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the Trump administration has now come out and basically said, well,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: you can't do this. And you're actually, you know, extorting
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: through their social media finds. So Donald Trump's come out
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: and he's issued what they call like basically diplomatic and
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: economic challenges saying that, you know, she's trying to put
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Australian government under pressure and condemning the proposal. He's saying
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: that the The media fines are discriminatory. They're extorting the
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: American technology enterprises. So Trump is coming out and hitting
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: back at this. And he's saying that basically these idea
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: of fines are basically extortion.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Wowza.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Wowzer.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I wish I didn't ask.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: All right. I wish the listeners could have seen the
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: two enormous yawns that Hans did in the.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Middle of that. He's so fucking rude. See, that's rude.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That was my body. I was trying to stop.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: My body, but my face just went open and a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: yawn happened.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: My face just went open.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: No, but other than that, I was fucking captivated. That
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: was like a Disney movie times two. I love you.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Tiff, I have a question without notice. That's not true.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I just gave you notice. Here's the notice. Here's the question.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So last week or something, I think you quite terrifyingly
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: lifted up your arm at me like you were going
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to squirt something out of your armpit, like a fucking
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: some kind of weird spider but you were revealing that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you have a new blood glucose monitor on there it
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: is see.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Patrick that's exactly what she did.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Doesn't it now we all went through the traumas of
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the first and second one and how you thought you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: were dying and then we found out that the machine
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: itself was fucked and giving you faulty data what's the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: status with the new one.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Well, it has been a fascinating experiment and let me
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: just set it up with everybody for the reason that
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: I am trying it again is because two to three
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: months ago, tracking my food and learned that, are you
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: yawning again?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Fucking hell, Harps.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: This is riveting.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. You know what? Fritz yawned at the
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: same time that Craig yawned. That's a sympathetic yawn, isn't it?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was watching me, otherwise just
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a coincidence and I could be a schnauzer.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Tiff, that was unmorrented.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: It was totally justified with Patrick's fucking rant. But with you,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I apologise.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You go on.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Three months ago, tracking my food for the first time
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: like this realised grossly under eating carbs for my, especially
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: for my output and activity.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: So after changing that.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: I thought wouldn't it be an interesting experiment to see
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: if there is a change in the data that the
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: continuous glucose monitor gives me. And interestingly, I've had it
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: on four nights now, I'd only had one very brief,
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: very small dip, not even very low overnight.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Except for last night.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Last night I did have three dips, but every other
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: night I've stayed in range, which has been quite fascinating.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Can we ask, that is interesting, can we ask what
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: brand or what Well, so I could do this, but
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: why don't you do it? Tell people who maybe didn't
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: hear the first round of conversation. Obviously, I would say 70%
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of our listeners already know what this is, but for
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the 30% who are going, what does it do?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: What's that for? Why would we do that? Give us
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit of.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: The reasoning or a little bit of the science behind it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so continuous glucose monitors are essentially a tool that
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: is usually used by diabetics to monitor your glucose continuously.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: I've got a type 1 diabetic client. She's actually got
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: that and an insulin pump, so now that regulates her
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: blood sugars in real time rather than her needing to
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: do tests and get the data.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: How amazing is that? So it measures your blood glucose.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And if you are below where you should be, it
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: just gives you.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: A little bit of insulin.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, which is incredible. She had adult onset type 1 diabetes.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Well, above where you should be, I'm saying.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Yep, go on.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and she has quite a turbulent time with it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: And she first had the pump installed. Sorry, this is
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: a bit of a tangent you probably didn't ask for,
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: hence the big yawn again.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: She.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Had quite a turbulent time with it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: She had the first pump installed earlier this year, had
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of dramas with that, had the second installation,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: but the blood sugar.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: Monitoring and control is quite a high percentage.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I can't remember the numbers.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Quite a high percentage better than her doing it manually,
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: which for her longevity and for her health is huge.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: She can't believe it because she was like, they're a life-saving,
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: accurate device. They cannot fail. And I had, first I
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: tried the, I think it's called Freestyle Libra, I think
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: is the brand of the first one I used.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: And it recorded sometimes a completely overnight low, like down
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: to two point something. So you should be, I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: 3.9 is where you dip into.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Low blood sugar.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: And I had multiple dips and sometimes they stayed low
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: for much of the night, which was a bit concerning.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: You can get misreads when you sleep on the sensor.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: So if it's pressured and if you're a little bit leaner,
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: I think it can be a little bit more inaccurate
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: at times or more prone for those misreads if you're
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: leaning on it. And I then tried a Dexcom. Dexcom
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: One is the brand and that was doing a similar thing.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: This was a year ago.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: And this time I've got a Dexcom again. And, yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: it's been really interesting. So I'm not sure last night
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: if I did sleep on that side or what might
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: have caused that, but every other night has been really stable. Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, Patrick, with your hand up. Yes, Patrick, in the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: third row.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Green again. Yes, Your Majesty.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to do the voice again. Hey, Tiff,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: does it pierce the skin? Yes.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Is it constantly monitoring the blood flow and so it's
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: sampling your blood in real time?
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yep.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah. It's funny because you put it on and it's
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: got a little kind of a plastic casing and you
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: click it in and it's not until you take it
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: out and you realise how big that little needle is
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: that's stuck in your arm, you don't feel it because
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: it's Cause you don't.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: See it go in. You've just stuck something on my
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: arm with sticky tape.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And the scary thing is there are a lot of
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: people in Australia who are pre-diabetic who already have probably
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: higher than they realize, uh, blood glucose and don't like,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: don't understand the consequences of that. So my dad had crazy,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: crazy blood sugar, uh, and obviously therefore diabetes, but, um, Yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think part of his decline because high blood sugar
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: is inflammatory. It creates inflammation in the body. All diseases
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: correlates with inflammation.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: All of it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: And also the more inflamed your body is, it affects
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: your brain significantly. So your cognitive function goes down. So
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: my dad with high blood sugar... Couldn't string four words together.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Low blood sugar. His brain worked much better. It was
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: quite observable. And there were times when his, I think
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I told you, his blood sugar got to 25.5 one day.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Which is basically inconsistent with life.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: When you go, oh, 10 is really high. 15 is crazy. Quick,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: do something.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 25 and a half.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Interestingly, there are a couple of conditions. And they're rare.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: But there is a condition.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: There's exercise-induced hypoglycemia, which I think could be related to
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: what I think might have been going on with me.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: There is nocturnal hypoglycemia.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: All that means, everyone, is low blood sugar.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: If you have been hypoglycemic for a while, then you
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: can get hypoglycemia unaware, which means you actually don't feel
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: the symptoms. So that's the tricky part for me was going, well,
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: if that's happening, it's kind of serious. But I'm not
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: waking at the times when these readings are measured, so
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: I can't do a test at the very same time.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: But this time around, the monitor and the fingerprint tests,
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: when I have done them, have aligned accurately.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: So it's really interesting.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Hey, Patrick, I like this. Can I just segue?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go on. Go.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I'm really excited about this, Tiff, and I understand where
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you're coming from about wanting to know what's happening to
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: your body at night when there could be influences that
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: can affect you. And, Craig, this is something that's kind
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: of close to you and I. I have white coat hypertension,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: which means I go to the doctor, my blood pressure
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: goes through the roof. And even when I test, one
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: of the things I know that I do is even
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: when I put the cuff on and I sit down
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: and it starts to expand, I can feel myself get
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: more stressed.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: I start to hyperventilate.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Now, Huawei, the phone manufacturer, has an on cuff built
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: into their latest smartwatch. They've had a few smartwatches that
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: do this, but their newest version, the D3, I'm pretty
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: excited about because it will subtly continually monitor your blood
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: pressure and And this is medical grade monitoring. This is
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about too, Tiff, the medical grade monitoring
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: that's accurate. And what they've done is they've worked out
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: a way. Look, it means the watch is a little
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: bit bigger than a standard watch, but it's got the
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: cuff built into the band. And what they say is
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: with this new model, it's more subtle when it takes
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: your blood pressure at night and it doesn't wake you.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: So you're not consciously aware of your blood pressure being taken.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: This to me is a bit of a holy grail.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: For those of us who have white coat hypertension, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: worry about it because high blood pressure is something that
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: can be extremely dangerous. And they call it the silent killer.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: And for me, because the dad has high blood pressure,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: but I've decided not to go on medication because I'm
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: on the cusp. But if I can get more accurate readings,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: that will definitely dictate whether or not I go on
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: to medication or not. And so this is a big
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: life changer for me.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: I know it's going to be probably expensive. I think
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: it's going to be about $ 800 or $ 900.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: But if I know I can get that reading, and
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: even if I use it for a few months and
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: go back to my GP and say, well, okay, these
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: are the readings that I'm getting, I feel I'm going
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: to get a much more accurate snapshot of my health.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, this is exciting for me. And Huawei,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: it's really interesting that the company's come up three times
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: this week in my feed, two for positive tech, Because
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: then the other thing that they've done is they've released
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: a trifold phone, so three screens, that also gives ECG
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: monitoring when you're holding it. So talk about medical tech
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: built into your phone and your devices. So you can
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: get an ECG monitoring and you can get a micropump
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: built into your phone for blood pressure tracking as well
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: coming through Huawei. But they're also under investigation in the
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: United States because it's claimed that that over the decades
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: they've been stealing American tech and then improving it, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: that's how they built their company. It's been claimed that
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: the whole foundation of Huawei was basically by copying other devices,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and now there's this big court case on in the
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: United States. But for us in Australia, you know, there's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: no limitations on the purchase of these products because I
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: think they're bloody amazing.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: You know what? A couple of things I want to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: say off that. First thing, okay, you and hypertension, right?
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: This is not science or this is not truth.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: This is my opinion.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I 100% think you do not have high blood pressure.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: The reason being, if the only time you get a
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: score or a result is when a doctor's doing it,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: your blood pressure will always be elevated because of your condition, right?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: So what white coat hypertension means, listeners, is just that
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: it's It's a fear response, right? You go in and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: there's an underlying fear or nerves or whatever it is.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I used to have the same thing.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I seem to be over it but if same my
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: blood pressure would be healthy 120 over 80 or whatever
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: i'd go sit down and be 170 over 120 like
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: my blood pressure would temporarily go through the roof because
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: i was shitting myself so if you only get a
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: reading when you're in that state it's not representative right
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: so you walking around just doing life with fritz and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: hanging out and doing your stuff I would think your
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: blood pressure would be somewhere between almost low and healthy.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: So that's because your body, your physiology is altered. Like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: literally when you're fearful, blood pressure goes up, heart rate
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: goes up, respiration goes up. You start to produce in cortisol,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: which elevates blood pressure because you're sitting down and you're like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: What's it going to be?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: But I've also worn a 24-hour monitor on a few occasions.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: And the second that the beeping starts, the cuff starts
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: to inflate, I can feel my heart rate go up.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's a fear response.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: And it wakes you up. Have you ever worn one
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: of those to bed? You've got cables everywhere. You've got
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: tubes there.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: You're laying in bed and all of a sudden it
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: goes beep and then it starts to inflate.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Of course, you're going to wake up. So that's why
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I wanted to see what this will do. But yeah, anyway,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: it's a self-experiment. I like doing these sorts of things.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And Just like Tiff, I just want to really know
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: what my body's doing and have a more accurate idea
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: of what's going on.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tiff and Scott have lots of gizmos and gadgets
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that they use at night. None of them are particularly medical, but,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what they tell me on Fridays
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: when they rock up.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: So I don't know that it correlates to blood pressure.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: He's a paramedic. He told me they were professional tools.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, goodness.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Let's do one more, Patrick.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: You pick. I'll just give you a little time to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: pick the one you want. Are you coming to the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: gym tonight, Cook?
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: Cook? Yes.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Tell your boy that I'm going to bring back all
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: of those containers. Yes.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: Excellent, because he is very busy right now as we
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: speak cooking you shepherd's pie and something else.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. He cooks for you?
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: And I've got a bunch of quiches in my freezer.
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: I was like, what?
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: What are these?
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, they're for harps. Don't eat them.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, praise the Lord. Well, I train him. I train him,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: which is worth $ 9, 000 a session, and he brings me food.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: He's almost my perfect partner.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, who's in whose relationship at
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: the moment?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Tiff's just an add-on.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Does he do V and can I do something for him?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you could.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: What do you mean by does he do vegan though?
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: That's my question.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: Does he cook vegan? Not does he do vegan. Sorry.
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: Does he cook vegan?
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Nice, Blake. I know we all know that you're attracted
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to men, but are you an equal opportunity grinder person?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Do you kiss vegans and carnivores?
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: As long as they haven't eaten a steak, maybe.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: As long as they don't have steak juice on their chin.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: If I limited my potential dating options to gay.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: Vegans, particularly living in the country, I would be a nun.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: I'd be you.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: So while you're spooning them on the couch watching a rom-com,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: do you say... Part of me doesn't want to do
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: this because you eat cows, but fuck it, I've got
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: limited options. I've thought about this.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: I've really thought about this.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I reckon if I wanted to get back into another relationship,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have a relationship with somebody who wasn't at
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: least vegetarian.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so too.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: It'd be hard to have someone cooking a steak in
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: my kitchen and me watching that meat sizzle.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: But that'd be a test of love though.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I thought you would love sizzling meat, but anyway. All right, Patrick,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: we're done.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Wait, wait, there was one more story. You asked me
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: for a story.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, fucking hell, you sound like a 14-year-old soprano. Get
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: your testicles out again.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: I wanted to talk to Tiff. This is a specific
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: story I put in here for Tiff.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Because, right, we.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Had a failed attempt to help her clean her teeth
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: a few years ago, right?
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I convinced her to buy this ridiculous mouth guard type
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: toothbrush and she bought it on my suggestion and it was.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: A piece of crap.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: $ 60 something.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: I know. Well, I've got a better suggestion for you, right?
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Dyson is about to, or just releasing, not in Australia yet,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: but it's about to release a a new camera built
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: into a toothbrush that also squirts dental flossy stuff into
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: your mouth.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Now, this is really good.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: It's a camera jet AI optical flossing toothbrush.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, real?
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Now, only for the low price of $ 770 Australian dollars.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: It's so big.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: The handle is so big, but it uses AI to
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: look into your teeth while you're brushing, and it's... Like
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: cleaning stuff between your teeth to floss at the same time.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: It runs at 245 hertz per second, the cycles per second.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: So Dyson claims it removes 69% more dental plaque than
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: a standard electric toothbrush, right? And a 13-fold improvement in
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: gum health. This is an oral solution you've been looking for, Tiff.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, Dyson, if you want that trialled independently, just send
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: us one. Tiff will give it a run for a
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: week or a month and we'll do a completely unbiased report.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: It looks pretty big.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: It's probably the biggest thing you've had in your mouth before,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: I reckon, because it's quite a large toothbrush.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, there it is again. There it is again. We
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: don't need that.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Listeners, I apologise for the depths to which this show
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: has sunk. Sorry, Scott.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Patrick, tell people where they can find you.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: No one wants to find me after this.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Absolutely not, except if they're a sniper.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: You could go to websitesnow.com.au and you could make a
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: suggestion about things you don't want me to talk about
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: as opposed to messaging me to talk.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: About a particular topic. We have had a little bit
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: of feedback over the years.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I think if people are still listening, then they like
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: this bullshit.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Either that or they're a masochist. Like, why would you
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: keep listening?
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going the masochist route, I think, for those people.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: All right. Hi, thank you for listening.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Tiff, you can tell people also.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Tiffcook.com and all the places.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And you can find me at my mum's house tomorrow.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Thanks, everybody.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks, team. Bye.