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Will You Sing A Song For Criston Cole?!??! (HOTD Season 3 Episode 6 Review Featuring Tahoe TV) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: Right, neer is desperate, fam, so.
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  Speaker 2: You're just gonna have some random drunk on a dragon.
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  Speaker 1: And what's up y'all? Welcome to another episode of Castle Black.
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  Speaker 1: It's your boy, Ben Hove the Means aka the bush Knight,
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  Speaker 1: Sir Christian cold as Ice, the Grand Master of Munch,
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  Speaker 1: a man has no shame, Biggie small Folk, little orphan.
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  Speaker 1: Allen here Castle Black, and as always I'm joined by
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  Speaker 1: a one and only master.
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's Portia aka Measter p aka Keeper of the Ice
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  Speaker 4: and Fire Teas aka Lady Mary j Am of High Garden.
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  Speaker 1: And returning jumping off the top rope, probably again the
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  Speaker 1: one and only host of So Shameless and Hard or
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  Speaker 1: soft Pow. Please reintroduce yourself.
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  Speaker 5: No, y'ave got too many at names like seventy years old.
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  Speaker 6: I'm fucking king the serious of this show, like I barely.
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  Speaker 3: Crawled to my seat just now.
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  Speaker 1: That's to legitimize the pot Well you do legitimized.
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  Speaker 5: Nah, I love the show. This is tie Ho the
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  Speaker 5: pause hammer I got.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 6: I know we don't pause these days, but you can't
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  Speaker 6: be going around calling yourself the hammer guy.
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  Speaker 1: Also huge hammer like huge hammers right there yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: right there.
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  Speaker 5: I'm waiting to see what y'all got.
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  Speaker 1: From the intro, you know, cold as ice intro and
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  Speaker 1: you know, rest in power, you know, to your man's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you want to say, you know, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yo, you got it?
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  Speaker 6: How you have seen delusion, I've seen I've never seen
• 2:03
  Speaker 6: Kristen Cole delusional. Daniver really thought he was gonna get
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  Speaker 6: some honorable death and it goes out of the way,
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  Speaker 6: just the same way Jason went by the way, same
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  Speaker 6: exact way. Didn't Jays catch three too?
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  Speaker 1: He called more, he cut three at first, just kept.
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  Speaker 6: Kristen Cole pulls out Allison's handkerchief. He's been looking at
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  Speaker 6: this handkerchief. He's doing this speech like, oh, they're gonna
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  Speaker 6: sing songs about it. And Queen Allison, I haven't heard
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  Speaker 6: her think about this man once since he left. She
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  Speaker 6: has just said a word about this man once since
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  Speaker 6: he left. Now on, Oh, they're gonna sing songs about.
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  Speaker 2: That's your belt from that's it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 2: Was it.
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  Speaker 6: It's embarrassing. His entire existence, to be honest, was embarrassing. Seriously, Like,
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  Speaker 6: and why I love this show. The other series, the
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  Speaker 6: night series, Ben you made short that I watched that one.
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  Speaker 6: He's the most embarrassing character out of all of these shows.
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  Speaker 1: To me, I'm just trying to think if somebody was
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  Speaker 1: more embarrassing than who had a more embarrassing existence.
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  Speaker 4: There are people who are more like disgraceful and like
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  Speaker 4: like like seriously scummy, like seriously just like oh they're
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  Speaker 4: playing martyr.
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  Speaker 3: Oh they're playing victim, Like oh, they're like there's those
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  Speaker 3: kind of characters.
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  Speaker 4: Christian Cole is a different I feel like he's a
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  Speaker 4: different level. The way he went out, I think for me,
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  Speaker 4: the funniest thing was that, like it's all been kind
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  Speaker 4: of foreshadowed, like his fate has always been in the
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  Speaker 4: hands of a woman, and it's always been non negotiable.
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  Speaker 4: He's never been able to have a say and what
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  Speaker 4: his fate was gonna be. He every time he thinks
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna have the upperhand and like, oh well maybe
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  Speaker 4: I can do this, nah Son, we ain't doing that.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just been L after L after L and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like I said before, in previous episode, he goes down
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  Speaker 4: in history is one of the best fighters that ever
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  Speaker 4: lived in the West Row's Here's history.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, interesting how that happens.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was really dope that we do get
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  Speaker 1: to see him be one of the best fighters in
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  Speaker 1: west Row's history, like my man, you know, solos everyone
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  Speaker 1: in that fight. And then, like you said, it's a
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  Speaker 1: woman with arrows that he has no control over. And
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  Speaker 1: I was reading that they took a line out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure who says it to Cole, but in the
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  Speaker 1: book someone tells him there will be no songs about you,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought that was you know, it didn't really
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  Speaker 1: need to be here because we all get the point
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  Speaker 1: that there will be no songs about him. And does
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  Speaker 1: he really go out as the greatest fighter in west
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  Speaker 1: Rows because it's like, you got shot up with arrows, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: nobody should be talking about you five minutes later.
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  Speaker 2: That's it going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he goes out as any other
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  Speaker 1: than the new who got laced in the In.
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  Speaker 4: The song about Icing Fire Universe, they whenever they talk
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  Speaker 4: about the greatest fire fighteries of all time is considered
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  Speaker 4: one of the greatest fighters of.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, well, yo, bro, he was going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yo he went hand.
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  Speaker 5: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: That was an incredible fight, super well directed.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like he damned the single handedly won that
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  Speaker 5: first one.
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  Speaker 1: He definitely did you know what I'm saying, Like.
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  Speaker 5: He made sure that the odds was you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: And it's funny because when they first walked in there,
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  Speaker 6: I was like, them people bodies ain't cold. I can
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  Speaker 6: see that through my screen. These people bodies are not great,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So he's like, oh, these
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  Speaker 6: people weren't killed here, but I'm looking like that.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think a lot.
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  Speaker 1: He just got.
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  Speaker 6: The irony that after everything with Raynarra and Alison him basically,
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  Speaker 6: like Portia said, his living for them or living in
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  Speaker 6: their storyline, and then to be by a woman at
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  Speaker 6: the end.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like, you know, he's just just doesn't.
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  Speaker 6: Have good luck with women at all. Who really does
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  Speaker 6: not have good luck?
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  Speaker 4: I can say, possibly the worst luck with women. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if we've seen anybody go out worse.
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  Speaker 6: I mean me, but I got five kids. So but
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna lay back for y'all. Don't worry about don't
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  Speaker 6: about it. Let's just move that.
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  Speaker 5: Just moved.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what did y'all think about Young?
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  Speaker 4: The young totly like Oscar totally and Dark being the
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  Speaker 4: ones that were like denying him his like thing, because like,
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  Speaker 4: did he seem kind of like Stark was like he's
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  Speaker 4: kind of whenever the arrows went in, he was just
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  Speaker 4: kind of like yeah whatever. But it's kind of seem
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  Speaker 4: like Oscar was like for a second kind of like
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  Speaker 4: taking a back.
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  Speaker 1: Like oh oh yeah, no. Oscar was definitely like damn,
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  Speaker 1: we really just shot my man, like that, did we?
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, yeah, moving on. It was kind
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: of like you know that great meme where the dude's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh oh well, you know, or alonga morning, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like that sucks.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like who was who was the one that
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  Speaker 5: gave a speech?
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  Speaker 3: It's Oscar Ty.
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  Speaker 5: That was Oscar Telly. I kind of wanted him to die.
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  Speaker 1: Why.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't like he was too cocky to be
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  Speaker 6: that little bro Like niggas out here dead swinging swords
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  Speaker 6: through the air, killing each other.
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  Speaker 5: This niggas hit.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody mad people with a mace with a spiked money, Like, yo, bro,
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  Speaker 6: you talking crazy, like it don't take much for me
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  Speaker 6: to take an arrow or take a knife or dagger
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  Speaker 6: and just toss that shit at you and just kill you.
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  Speaker 5: What makes you think you could talk to me like that?
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  Speaker 1: I got a thousand niggas behind me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna die anyway.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're gonna run if I run at you
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  Speaker 6: right now, You're gonna have to run.
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  Speaker 4: Why would I sit here like a sitting duck for
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  Speaker 4: you to come running me.
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  Speaker 1: He knows he got the shorty with the arrows in
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  Speaker 1: the bush, like he knew. This was all planned out,
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  Speaker 1: I mean well planned out also, because that's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: like it gets it does to get a little ludicrous.
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  Speaker 1: How the hell did they hide that army over the hill?
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  Speaker 5: That was like.
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  Speaker 1: They went surrounded them somehow, quietly, all these horses, all
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  Speaker 1: this armor, all these dudes.
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  Speaker 6: I guess, like nobody cocky in these shows, Bro, anything
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  Speaker 6: can happen in these shows.
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  Speaker 5: Stop acting like anybody can get it.
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  Speaker 4: Po were cocky because they don't know the whole story, right,
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  Speaker 4: we know the viewers, we know the whole story. But
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  Speaker 4: they get to be cocky because it's there there, there
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  Speaker 4: are the characters.
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  Speaker 3: They get to be like, oh this is what I
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  Speaker 3: got up my sleeve. Ha ha ha.
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  Speaker 5: Oops, that little nigga is not going to grow hair
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  Speaker 5: on his face.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to be dead. Oh yeah, time hair starts
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  Speaker 6: coming out his nose. It's over, bro, Like, don't even
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  Speaker 6: stop bragging like you that nigga?
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  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: Stop? Also, who volunteered for that mission?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, go lay dead while we stand back with thousands
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  Speaker 1: of people? Like what was it was like jokes kind
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  Speaker 1: of you know, it was like.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like I don't know what about this? Like
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  Speaker 5: they know they was going to be the ones to die.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, That's what that was. My question. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: did they volunteer to be Red Shirts? Like did they
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  Speaker 3: know that? Like they were like yeah, And so my.
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  Speaker 4: Question, I guess is like because it's over arching, because
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  Speaker 4: we see it a couple different times in this episode
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  Speaker 4: and a little bit before, but generally because we know
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  Speaker 4: this for in real life too, like with how the
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  Speaker 4: Army recruits and like across the world, how like they
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  Speaker 4: do they kind of go for disaffected men who are
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  Speaker 4: like ready to die or ready to like put themselves
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  Speaker 4: up for whatever. So how much of that do you
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  Speaker 4: think is like their general strategy is like we're recruiting
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  Speaker 4: men who already feel like they won't be missed and
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  Speaker 4: they're like they're just open to like this is what
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  Speaker 4: they put them on missions for, Like we're gonna put
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  Speaker 4: you in the in the center of like just death basically,
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  Speaker 4: and like with that bigger army surrounding, it's like it's
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  Speaker 4: a win for them to like know, they took out
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  Speaker 4: Christian calls force, so like it gives morale else the
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  Speaker 4: bigger group. But you got to sacrifice this like red
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  Speaker 4: Shirt team in order to give the bigger moralen to
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  Speaker 4: the bigger army.
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  Speaker 6: Can I ask a question that the old guy start,
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  Speaker 6: Isn't he part of a group of men that yearn
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  Speaker 6: to die in battle?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: The what if they were all just part of them? Like, yo,
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  Speaker 6: we get to go die. Yo, whoever goes out there,
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  Speaker 6: y'all going to die, trust me. And it's like honorable
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  Speaker 6: for them to actually to take that, you know, position,
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  Speaker 6: because they actually get to realize they're.
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  Speaker 5: You know, what they want to realize out of this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well he said that there's no greater honor than
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  Speaker 1: to die with metal in your hand. And the Starks
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, uh kind of represent like the norsemen,
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  Speaker 1: like the Valhalla going people. So it's just like you know,
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  Speaker 1: the people who worship forward the Norse guys, they all think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, dying in battle is the only way to go.
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  Speaker 1: So you end up in Valhalla. Otherwise you go to Hell, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they're definitely like that. So them dudes who are
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: out there are probably like the top, not them. And
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  Speaker 1: to answer your question, Porsch, it's just like in real life,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, the Army, Navy, etcetera. Armed forces recruit
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  Speaker 1: from people who are desperate, and you know, many cases
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  Speaker 1: have no other options, so going to war is their
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  Speaker 1: only option because they just need food over their heads sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: so make food and shelter, et cetera. So you know
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  Speaker 1: that's how it is. So yeah, these people are probably
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: the most desperate in them all, and it's one of
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: them situation with like either you know, you go out
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  Speaker 1: in there and lay down or we kill you. You know,
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  Speaker 1: probably it was one of those things, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like it's like the overarching like strategy
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  Speaker 4: for all of the like high lords and stuff. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's what we see with the City Watch too, right,
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  Speaker 4: It's that like Daemon was counting on them to be
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  Speaker 4: desperate enough to just want to maintain without being paid,
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  Speaker 4: and then we see that that's like that he's not
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  Speaker 4: taken in. The nobles are generally aren't taken in that
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  Speaker 4: like everyone is loyal to their own families, just like
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: the nobles are loyal to like Targetarians are loyal to targarians,
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  Speaker 4: like common folks are going to be loyal to their
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  Speaker 4: own families, but they don't count that in whenever they're
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: making these decisions.
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  Speaker 1: And Daemon was trying, I didn't get them paid, BUTSA
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  Speaker 1: they word you not?
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  Speaker 3: There is no try right, Like.
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  Speaker 5: We're not working, bro, what y'all think this is?
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  Speaker 6: Listen, my family at home, I moms will just go
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  Speaker 6: have sex with my wife.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all got me over here.
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  Speaker 6: Niggas dying over here, so nothing y'all not paying us,
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  Speaker 6: y'all not taking care of none of us, our kids
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  Speaker 6: is starving. I might as well just go home, bro
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  Speaker 6: and wait to die over there. I'm not gonna be
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  Speaker 6: in y'all not even protecting us.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to mention about that was the
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  Speaker 1: cut was it's really dope cuts this episode like one
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  Speaker 1: when Cole dies and we cut the Allison and like
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: you said, Ty has no knowledge of it. This whole
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: episode does not find out the coal is even dead,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: and probably you know, will care less when it does happen.
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  Speaker 5: Has she mentioned him since he left since he drove
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  Speaker 5: off on the horse she has.
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  Speaker 1: She mentioned him, baby, baby.
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  Speaker 4: The segue to her is her looking out and thinking
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  Speaker 4: about him, and that was that one second and that's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the longer she thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: She was thinking about it when she's sitting in the
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  Speaker 1: hall in the cold, all dark.
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  Speaker 3: I don't make it.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she was sitting there like, man, I could if
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  Speaker 4: I could be anywhere right now, maybe i'd be I'd
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: be sucking him right now. And then she was like,
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: you know what, back to being the like the last quean.
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  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of lines on morning this episode.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of like yeah, well yeah, but that
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  Speaker 1: was a really dope cut. And then the cut when
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: they leave Damon and he's standing there in front of
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  Speaker 1: the feasts for traders signed because it's like mm hmm,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's the feast for you. And so people
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: say I don't criticize Damon enough. I just thought a
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: lot of his moves this episode were just like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking Big L's left and right cause he just
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: and he walks into them, like you said, Tyler, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you could have found a way
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: to get them dudes paid. But I feel like you
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: could have found a way to get them dudes paid.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: There had to be something, and you can't go in
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  Speaker 1: there with that weak ass speech talking about, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get all revenge, Like, man, your top dog got
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: murdered along with I don't those seven eight other cats
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  Speaker 1: like you don't have anybody who believes in that speech anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So it was, you know, sloppy work by him.
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  Speaker 5: And.
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  Speaker 6: I just bro I just watched all the seasons recently,
• 14:17
  Speaker 6: Man and Damon. Although I understand bloodthirsty, I understand, you know,
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  Speaker 6: he just does. Isn't a person that inspires people like
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  Speaker 6: it's never been a person that should be in a
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: royal court. It's always been his weakness, the you know,
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  Speaker 6: the business of being uh you know, in the king court.
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  Speaker 6: It's always it's never been a good look for him.
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  Speaker 6: He'd always wind up in the whorehouse or you know,
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: drunk or you know, almost strung out on whatever the
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: fuck he's He's just never been good at that. So
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  Speaker 6: for him to be looked at as a person to
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  Speaker 6: inspire men to fight hungry fi only starving. We're losing
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: our uh you know, our numbers in the street and
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  Speaker 6: you don't have no answers.
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  Speaker 5: Damon, just ain't that guy for that.
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  Speaker 6: He's definitely not the guy to sit around a small
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: council and be able to to plan. He's always thinking
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: with either his dick or his blood rushing.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: That's just and it's the same thing. It's still phallic, it's.
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: Still that's what he's good, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: So just again, when we're talking about leadership, Damon, once
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: you see the gold cloaks falling like that, maybe higher up,
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  Speaker 6: maybe Raynier should have assigned somebody else over there to
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  Speaker 6: help him, because he's not the one to be able
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: to pull us together.
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  Speaker 5: He's just Hurn, a fighter and a good fucker, apparently,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He turns down the help. I mean definitely must be
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: both of them.
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  Speaker 2: Because it shouldn't be his choice.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah I know, but he turns it down when Alan,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: when Alan tries to give him help, he turns that
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  Speaker 1: shit down.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Like it's not it's not his place though, because like
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Raynier does tell him, like no, the Valarians are to
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: come help you, so do it, do whatever, But the.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Valayians are coming, like that's what we're gonna do.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: So like it's it doesn't it like Damon's not the
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: last word on the matter. It's just that he's That's
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: what his reaction is to that. And I feel like
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: he is the city Watch because that's where his brother
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: put him and he did shot up those men. Like
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: he's good to get them to fight. And when things
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: are the tides are good. But see the problem was is.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Now that the tides are not good, the money's not there.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: But that's the problem with the nobility as well, because
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: it's like be creative about your resolutions, like, okay, you
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: can't give them gold. What is what's the use of
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: gold right now?
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Anyway? And this like economy where like.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: People are just looking for food, like okay, give them
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: access to food, give them something so that their families like.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: So they're still galvanized to do that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: But because of him, again being a noble and not
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: thinking like what can I get a common person? Where
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: can I He's just like, oh, my words will do it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Your words can again. You can do a morale, you
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: can need people jump in and get moving, do something
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: in the moment, but in a long term, that's not
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: going to keep them going.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: So I think that's where everything falls apart.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I do want to note that, like his words are
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: very good, like his education whatever, like the way he speaks,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: like he the way that he's calling them like craven burmin,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Like he's like he's very bitingly good whatever. He's like
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: trying to boost you up. His words are really good
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: at like doing that whenever he wants to cut you down.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: He's also really good at using cut like them both.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So I get why he.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Thinks he's powerful because he knows that he has like
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: the a level of I don't know of, like all
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the power that he needs behind his words, but he
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: doesn't recognize that, like his words only have so much weight,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: And like, yeah, it might be true that they're like
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: craven or whatever for leaving.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Irony that, like they're leaving with the sign of the
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Trader behind them, Like that was also very notable.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: So like now he feels like they've betrayed him, But
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: at the same time, it's like, okay, there, you've betrayed
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: them by not actually giving them what they need to
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: continue to be part loyalty your cause.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: So it's betrayers all around.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Basically, and it's like you're just saying, like he's great
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: with words, but like Taha was saying, he's terrible at
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: politics because when he's on a small council, he you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: this man has a battle with indigestion as bars at
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the night. But at the same time, this is the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: dude you need right now, Like this is the guy
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: with some money, you know, and you over here throwing
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: pots and pans at him. So it's just not like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to politics. He knows how to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you know, cut people down or you know, boost people
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: up by cutting someone else down. But that's about all
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: he got. And then you know, cutting people down, like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you're good at cutting people down no matter what.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Right, what would you do? Though?
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: Seriously, this problem with the gold clothes, like I don't
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: even really know if I was in that situation what
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I would be able to do. Like this reminds me
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: of Gnari's and was it Esos where these guys had
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: the masks and they would just.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Come out.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Remember that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: And all of that, and they're coming from everywhere, you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: not a real faction. These are just people that wind
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: up I don't know. And so when you have that
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: type of force against you, movement against you. I really
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: don't know what would y'all do to change that?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And I know you had that question, Like we can
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: even ask that, you know, the listeners and chat and everybody,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: what would you do if you were Ray Ray's hand
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: right now, if you were in Damon's position.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Well, course is her hand.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: But okay, well all right, well let's in cordless position. Well,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I mean other than get choked.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Out, I'm burning the old town to the ground. No
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: old town with the high towers of room.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Oh you're going to You're going.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: To go to stending dragons over there to burn that
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: whole ship to the ground.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Oman you ain't got nowhere to go.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Not a bad plan.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I'm burning that ship. I'm destroyed all of them.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: More role in Tumbleton, just from the fact that y'r
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: all their families is going.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: I'm fucking that hotown, fucking.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: All the money there, centuries of like it's not because
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: like the citadel in the sept holds a lot of
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: like high houses, like their folks are there, like they're
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: they send some of their kids there.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Part killing everybody in the Sept, all the faith I'm
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: killing them all.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: This is I'm killing the whole faith. I'm killing the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: whole faith.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Because y'all are tried, y'all are literally working before for
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: whatever cause you have to illegitimize me.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: I'm killing all of y'all, and I'm killing everybody in
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Old Town.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna become like almost like the mad King.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: She got to put some work.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: In, yeah, Tamas said when they heard the crew was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: not coming fast enough for him.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Boy, she got to put some work in. The kill people,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: mad people. It lists amounts of people. Let the blood run.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: You're saying, you got a dragon, use it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: You got more dragons.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I want to see a movie.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: I want to see a movie mad dragonfire through Old Town.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but it's like everyone is in Old Town, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Kill them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Because guess what.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: They will never swear fealty to you, because of the
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: old eggon all that. They will never it's not gonna happen,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: and they will continuously.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Plot against you. They already have. This is all them,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: this is all the high towers.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Kill everybody, and now y'all out here by yourself, wherever
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: you at.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Hide.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: They not playing, They moving, bro, they moving crazy. You
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: can't act for peace with people who want war with you, bro,
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: you cannot. So all right, y'all want war, let's do
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: it for real now. Now you live in Tumbleton now
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: because you ain't got nowhere else to go.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: You lived there, know, I don't. I don't think that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: gonna stop the people in the streets from coming at you.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I think that might reinvigorate everyone who lives in King's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Landing who does not you know, who has family in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: an old town.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I can't well, I will say that what you're saying
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: has historic precedent within the Game of Thrones universe, Like
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: when Aggon the conquer came in, that's what happened to
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Hairn Hall. He's just like, so, y'all are gonna keep
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: fighting me, No, you won't. And then he's like burned
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: everything down. He's like, okay, y'all did like that whole
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: family line whatever used to be.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: There, it ain't there no more.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And that's what made all the other houses get in line,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: because some of them, like the Starts, They're like, I
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: ain't got time to do all that, like here you
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: go whatever, But some of the other ones were like, oh,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: not be gonna go up until whatever, it's whatever.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And then hare in halls whatever.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: They were like, oh so you're so you did burn
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: a couple of things before, but now you're just gonna
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: burn a whole family. Like that's fine, I'm ald just
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: you got it, dow down, you got it, got it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: That's what Aronythone has all these swords like it's because
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: everybody was like, go on and take them. It's good,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: take the swords.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: So yeah, you're right, Like that's that is a way.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: That is the way the conqueror did it is to
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: just take out who your biggest enemies are, and like
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: it is what it is. I feel like there's there
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: are there is some like the issue is that the
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Targarians over time have like tried to they're at they're
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: like playing both sides. They're one put in the door,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: one put out. When it comes to where Targarians where
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: dragon writers can't nobody tell us nothing like the Western restaurant. See,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: like they're behind. They have their own faith and like
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: we're of a different milk. You can't mess they can't
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: mess with us. But then they're also trying. They don't
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: always have the means and the money, so that the
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: politic to get to the means and the money that
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: all the other houses have. So at this point within
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Rainiera's timeline, I don't know how oh useful strategy it
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: could work, but like to what ends basically, and she
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: has no bread, she doesn't have anything.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so burning up, you know. I mean, I know
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they're against her right now, but it's also a bit
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: source of bread. I think I see both sides of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: that window, Tyler, because I feel like, you know, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that's what Damon is also saying, and that's what he's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: been saying, be the conqueror, be who we think we are.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But that only goes so far. Like it only went
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: so far for Agone, and it's only gonna go probably
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: less for you because you're not Agne. So I don't know.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the thing.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Gold.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: It takes a lot of heat to burn gold. So
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: to older people, you can still go get the gold. Yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: this is true Otter too. They're never gonna support you.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: That's something that we need to understand.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Three.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: They are the host All of these little factions are
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: because of Old Town.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Take them out.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: They have no home no more.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: They have all of the people that's pulling the string
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: is coming from over there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Take them off the board.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: Now you get to localize your little threats over here
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: and Tumbleton or the ones wherever you got. You get
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: to just take you know, surround them and just wash
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: them out. There's too much politics being played. You need
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: to bring out the big guns. Fifty cow dragon fire.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, but okay, like what I said, I when I
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: say everyone is in old Town, I'm saying like there's
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Birathians in old Town.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: There's totally's in old Town. They're praising.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: So now you're now you're taking your snuffing, your nose
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: for your fiding, your nose for your face. Like now
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: you're taking out people that are already on your side,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: and then you're galvanizing them to become their own factions
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: now because you say also taking out the faith.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And so it's one thing to play around.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: With people's money maybe, but to play around with the
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: faith emotions, you're taking out like a lot of people's
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: loyalty to the faith. Like so many people who have
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: more power, more money, more main power. Then it's like
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the Targarian the blacks manpower is coming from the Barathians,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: It's coming from this holies it's coming from them. So
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: if you make them your enemies, then who is your base?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: All of them was in old.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Ten Yeah, oh yeah, everybody there and then like you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: half of your counsel is leaping the moment you do that,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: like what council? I mean true, but you know, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: little bit of counsel you have is out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: This is the first time I've seen her council actually counsel.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I want to say that this is like the best
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I've ever seen r near the Blacks ever have counseling.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And that was I mean that might not mean a lot,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: but it was.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: It's a lot for It's a win for the Blacks
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: to have an actual counsel sitting there and making decision means.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It was so dope. When Alan started speaking and then
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they cut to him, that was another great shot because
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you hear his booming voice and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: somebody actually disagreeing with Damon and then there's Alan sitting there.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: That was dope.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Do y'all have.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Something that you would do if you was the hen.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Besides burn everything down?
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Is that what I said?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean pretty much. Yeah, I would have tried
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to do something more and like she was doing it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: when she was out there feeding the people. But I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: think that's one of her you know, failures, is that
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it was such a quick, stop gap thing and she's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: not She's not Mam Donnia enough.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It's how you got a choice. You can either be
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Mam Donnie or you can be that dude in office.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You know, you can either and that dude in office
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: burn everything to the ground, you know what I mean.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: So you got two choices. And I feel like she's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: not nearly Mom Donnie enough, Like it's just straight up
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: she's more like I said before, she's more Obama where
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the bombings will continue, but I'll put on
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: a good face. So that's not good enough for these
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: people right now, because these people need change and they
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: need people, someone who's there for them, and you know
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: they're not being there for them, but they're also not
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: being complete you know monsters, So you gotta make that choice.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: I also said that as well, that maybe she needs
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: a small counselor for commoners because that sitting in front
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: of the damn thrown standing in the front of the
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: throne with mad people yelling at you and hearing you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: your resolution for one person, the next person here is
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: that so they have expectation now the situation.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Right, that's just not practical right now, also not a
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: good place to communicate with the entire town. She needs
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: to actually feel Mom, Donnie is to create some things
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: to make it feel like we actually.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Care about y'all. You know what I'm saying. That was
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: one of the things that I said.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, because she's like, go holler, dude about something.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But why is the dude just right there right?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: What I would do is also aligned with that. But
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: it's like the fact that I think the reason why
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: they never really have a counsel for the commoners, besides
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: them not really trying to give things to the commoners,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: of power to commoners, is they have like this like
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: fear of funneling power to someone and them taking it
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: over and using it. As we hear Ormond talk about
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: later about how like the difference between commoners and nobility
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: when it comes to them like scripping for power. There's
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: reasons behind that. But I do think what she could
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: and should do is figure out how to use having
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Alison in her grafts to her favor. Because Alison and
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: the high towers are part of that faction of their reach,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: the reaches where all the food is coming from, like
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: a good portion of the restaur Rosi.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Food is coming from.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: So if she could utilize that, like she could divvy
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: up what's going there, like Ormond controls a decent amount
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: of high tower power. But if it's like, Okay, we
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: don't know who we're serving, Alison or Ormond, because Alison's
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: coming over here, she's telling us that we need food
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: for kings Landing, She's coming back with it to King's Landing,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: then that displaces the high towers even more. They can't
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: shore up behind one or the other. They're kind of
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna divide. I don't know how they would
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: do that, because Alison is if you have have her
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: out with her folks, there's only a matter of time
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: before that can go awry. I don't and Damon is
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: not a good tactic like diplomat for him to be
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: part of that either. So I think the main thing,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: to be honest, would have started back whenever Rainiera was
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: younger and her actually haven't made allegiances outside of in
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: kings Landing like she should have been becoming friends with
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Jane Arn or whatever. She should have been making friends
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: with other high house people because then she would have
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: those relationships to pull on when she needs stuff.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But the main thing she needs is food and supplies.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: And I think like that's why the reach in high
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Garden is so important, because that's where that comes from.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And they've been relying on the high towers to be
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: the people to create that for them, and they need
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: multiple different voices to pull that in. So I don't know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: it kind of feels like it's too late, but I
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: think that's the thing, like to get the people going,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Like sure, faith is there whenever things are bad or whatever,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: but whenever they have what they need, they're not gonna
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: be They're gonna be more likely to kind of be
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: on her side than to be on the side of
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: whoever else pops up.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Give them what they need and not what they want.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: See what happens.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I don't really like cal answers.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Because y'all are moving like vicerus. Y'all are talking like
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: this is not a wartime.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: This is wartime.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, you gotta worry about the commoners, but they with.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: The with the level of problems that you have right now,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: they're kind of your smallest problem with And I know
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: that sounds fucked up because we come from lower class shit,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: But you've got mom, you're they just killed your kids.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: They just killed your fucking kids. They're over here claiming
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: other towns, like they literally they're literally building a ship
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: where they're gonna fence you in.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: You don't got time to be worried about this right now.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Maybe you all right, send them a couple bags of grain,
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: but you got bigger fucking problems.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the like take care of Like what
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I'm saying is centralize the supply, because everyone in the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: kingdom's food for the most part, like they're like it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: The North has their own everyone has their own stuff.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: But the major source of it is is the reach.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: That is the primary place. If you control where that's
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: going to, if you have that power, then you're like
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: all those high houses that came to the table and
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: we're eating rats were served rats, right, Like you're changing
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: up the dynamic of like who's buttering gear bread, who's
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: doing like change up for that?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Do you gotta?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: They've been using their towers the whole time we we
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: gotta find someone else, especially needs someone else outside of Alison,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, it may be too late for that,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: but there has to be a way to figure that out.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it could have been cordless if you
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: or anyone you know. But it's also the fact, like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you said, Ray wasn't really raised enough. And then I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: also don't want to blame her being raised because it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: also like who is going to become friends with Jane Aaron?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Like Jane Aaron is a nutcase. This woman said it's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: never stopped being fascinated and watched the she.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Was young, like whatever, she is young, like because House Iron,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I'll say this. They like they've been showing us the
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: whatever side of them whatever, But they're very practical people,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: like they their whole thing is they basically can't be reached.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: But beside dragon, you can't fight them.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they can, like you can.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: They kind of like our dreams.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: They can infight because it's easier for them to infight
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: from all this stuff. But like when it comes to
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: actually being trying to an external force trying to come
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: for them, like nobody can. So I think like the Irons,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: like Jane, they know like whenever ring uh Raina is
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: over there the first time, it is like she's always
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: wanted a dragon. So that's how egg On the Conqueror's
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: sister wife, she conquered the veil splash word Jane Ron
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: and we're from by bringing a dragon over there.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: That's what they like. They want to they want to
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: be felt like they're part of the dragon thing.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: So like they are people you can get with, like
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: they don't be at court a lot, but like they're powerful,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: so you want to make them your ally because they
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: that's what Brathian did, like he was trained by the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Orange or whatever.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: So you can. It's just that Jane is like at
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: this point in.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: The timeline, she is a woman who knows what she
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: wants and that's how she's moving. But if she didn't
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: bring me Arab were cool before, now, who knows what
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: could have happened.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I get that now we do need to discuss Ray
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: getting cut by the throne that sucked.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: I was like, dang, because was that throne the source
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: of the service's illnesses?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure of that pretty much? We're sure of that?
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Are we sure of that?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: We're not one hundred percent sure of that. We just
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: know that. It's like, it didn't help.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: It didn't really that in the post when they were
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: talking after the show, they said that was the cause
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: of it and this was this is a major turning
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: point for rain Era.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: But did they talk about the cycle component of it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, there's also the idea that the Throne is
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: rejecting her.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the saying that everyone says.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: They said, like, if the Iron Throne rejects you, it
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: cuts you. Like if that's how you know you're not
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: a good fit for it. Yeah, And different people have
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: gone different ways to try to resolve whether or not
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: they're good, like to make themselves a good fit once
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: they've seen that the Throne rejects them. I mentioned it
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: whenever she first showed up. I guess the episode two
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: or whatever, when she first showed up and sat on
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: the throne, and.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Well before she would sit on there, she was just
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: looking at it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: She wouldn't go sit up on there, and David was
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: like ghosted on it, and she was like, no, I
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: need to go find Eggon and make sure that Egon's gone.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Right. That's the thing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: It's like, if you know that there's still people who
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: have a better clingim to the throne ahead of you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Are you more lucky to believe that's the reason why
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: the throne's rejecting you, or because something that you did?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Probably both a little bit of both. At this point.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: For her, I think she believes everything is, you know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: because she is constantly talking about the gods, the gods that,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and you know how this ain't going right for her
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and that ain't going right for her. So I feel
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: like she just has mad imposter syndrome and it's hitting
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: her from Mary Angel right now.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: You have a throne made of swords, and you're scared
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: to wield. You're scared to go to war. Of course,
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: the throne made of swords is gonna be like this.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: You di been six months.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: You ain't killed nobody yet the front.
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: There's all these swords for he cooked the town yet? Yeah, yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: you ever cooked the exactly. I'm sorry, I know I
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: sound like I'm just ignorant, but you're on a throne
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: made of swords.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: The other kid, the little kid said, Joe, I got
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: some ship.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I gotta make full of bones.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I ain't got enough bones yet.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: He said, accept of the trader's bones. He said, I'm
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: gonna make a temple of traders. Bones. I ain't got
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: no bones, straight up. It's all y'all got to Donna. Great,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: damn the damn rosary thing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: But I said, like, well, I will say because we've
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: talked out and previous episode, like how are there better Targetarians?
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Basically that ring or whatever, and Visarius's father, Jaharis, he was,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: that's the old king that I keep talking about.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: He was the one we see.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Him for like the first scene of the first episode
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: of this series. He probably goes down as probably the
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: best king in restaurant's history, and he never knew a
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: wartime and he got to sit the throne for a.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Long time without it cutting in Mom Donnie, all right,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Just kind of good at like negotiating and being diplomatic.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Would not survive in the House of Dragons.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Now he dead dead up immediately. He way too honorable.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Somebody chopping his head right off?
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, all right, so master P,
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: do you think I'm wrong? I need to know, right
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: because I since I've watched this episode and the last
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: episode with all of the guts hanging out and all that,
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: I'm like, they just need to start chopping people call this.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: I told you that two episodes ago. Call is still
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: on his bullshit. He's he wouldn't supposed to get to
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: this episode. We ain't gon talk about calling yet, I know.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: But do y'all think am I wrong for thinking that
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: more people need to.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Be getting killed?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: No?
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: No, I mean it's a war. People are gonna die.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: But who she missed a mark on over there?
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah? When has she not acted where she should have acted?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I can't say killing Corlis was the right move, even
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: though he you know, wild it out to the stream
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: where he needed to. I mean he deserved that. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: can't say deserve, but by the rules, by the rules,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: he should be dead. But she needs him desperately. So yeah, no, Uh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like I said, it's probably somewhere far back where where
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: she really you know, made a mistake. I mean. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the funny thing is to I remember saying, I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: we were saying this at the end of season one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, season two should open with her
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: cooking everything, and it didn't, And we still haven't got
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: to that point yet. So I think the.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Best position she ever could have been in is that
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: she were Raynys to be honest, like when Rainie whenever
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: the Greens were about to take over and Rainie popped
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: up out of there and she could have taken out
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: all of them. That was the best person in position
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: to get to stop this whole thing this whole time.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: If she would have just wanted to like boom yeah
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: and then left, maybe we would not be in where
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: we are right now.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: So I don't know that we've not been handed a
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: situation like that since that happened.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Ray Nearer herself, I don't know that she's ever really been.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: In a position where there's been.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: An opportunity like a silver bullet, where she's like, oh,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: if I just like take out these two people, we'll
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: be straight, because like money can always be a problem,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: even if she's taken out auto earlier.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I don't that's you know what, Maybe that's what it is.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: If rayniera As was more ruthless as a teenager and
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: had had auto poison, maybe we would not be here today.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: M And then it's all sort of thing like you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: maybe it's not I can only take out two people,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing like people like certain you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: people always look at Cercy and side, why does something
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: she move more like thirty Cercy would blow up the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: stepth you know what I mean, she would kill everyone
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and Randos who had nothing to do with it. So
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Rainier hasn't been ready to do that, and that's probably
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you know, her fault because.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Circey wasn't moving right anyway. But did that serve Sercey
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: to move that way?
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: No?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it saved her for the moment.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: And it did nothing for her.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Her kids died, everyone dead, she died, her brother died, like.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, she she lived longer. She would have been
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: dead then.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So she just lived to be tortured in her life longer, yay.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: But she didn't feel tortured.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: She was sipping.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Why would she blew the people up? That's the thing,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, in a minute she found out
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: her son jumped, and then it sucked. But for the moment,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: she was feeling great.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing, like, this is not a you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: show a life where things are going to end well,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody's don't chop your head off eventually or something.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But it's like, how long do you know, avoid that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: block because certainly was going to get you know, killed
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: that day, and she avoided it. For I don't know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a few more months whatever, until you know Daniars came through.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: You got to realize that I'm talking.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I talked about Harris because like he's that's who everyone
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: is working walking then example of that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but see where like that too. But Tyle said,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: we're in wartime right now. So it's like, how does
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: she get out of this situation? You know? And I say,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you know, feed the people, And I think that would
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: like if she really was working with the people right now,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I think that would help her position even you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: where they would where they wouldn't be like, yo, we'll
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: never support you. You know, we'll keep killing until you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: know you got to kill all of us, you know.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I think there is a way to get to the people.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she has enough time though, you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it's like the pressure is already on and I think
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: this should have happened fifteen years ago or you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: she didn't even at all five years ago. But yeah,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think she got on the top for that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I feel like the main thing to me is, okay,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: where I see Raniera's biggest MISSEDTEP this season even is
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: her taking the throne and come in the King's Landing
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: before she actually made the whole little situation work out
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: in her favorite like why are you sitting on a throne?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Before?
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Like she's showing up to the deficit that her brother's
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: and all everybody else made. She's like she's mom, Donny,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: and like she's coming in. All the budget's gone, all,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: like what's going on? There's we're trillion in debt, like
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. Why do any of that before you
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: can come in as a conquering hero. I feel like
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Ormond would have played that game. I feel like that's
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: the one thing I can say that Ormond has that
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Rainiera doesn't, is that he's he's looking at like the
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: storyline that's happening along with and using that to his
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: favor because and we'll talk about Damon and him taking
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: out the one guy or whatever later, but he's able
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: to play.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: He knows that no one knows who Darren is. He
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: knows that, like.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: He's all he's really doing is building off of the
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: disfavor people have for having either a woman on the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: throne or not having their needs met right now. And
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: he's not offering a real solution. He's telling them the
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: solution is Darren the daring but it's not actually what.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: He's just playing the stories for them to get behind,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: like they use all their ainks and ironed for his favor.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Raynier could have done the same thing.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: She could have let King's Landing being disarrayed because anyone's gone,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: A gone's gone. She's while she's building her treasury, while
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: she's doing what she needs to do. So whenever she's
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: finally ready to come up to King's Landing, she's like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: oh did the high towers that's up?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Did they mess up everything?
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Teen Green left y'all sitting here with no money, only
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: eating rats. Welcome to the very near a black side.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: We have all these things. She could have played that game,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: but she did it because she was such a rush
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: to just get back to King's Landing, and like that's
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: what she messed up the most.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about Rainer being out here in the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeasy season? Because I like that outfit, Like, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I was pretty fly for her being a dirt bad
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: like she is. I mean, like they say it looks
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: like she's smoking crack with what's his name?
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I know for a fact she don't with alumin a minum.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: You says she rocking nothing but thumb rings like ship
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: in that kid, nothing but thumb rings and belly chains.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Listen, man I said that Christian Cole was the biggest embarrassment.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what to say about this girl.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I know, first of all, you let a white woman.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Slap you, and you're a princess.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: I turned over in my bed. I almost went to
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: bed after that. All right, now, I almost went to
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: bed after that.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: This is something we got a dressed though, and I'm
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: glad you brought it up right there.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: What the fuck?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: They're not black? I know they're played by black athletes.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: I don't get ship. It's twenty twenty six.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: My thing is, I don't care. She's a princess.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, random is a princess.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: You got an old dragon outside.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm a dragon. You're How the how did those men, those.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Random men they're not even like lords or anything. How
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: those random men touch you because you ain't touching me.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I'm a princess because she was on crack.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: You really don't like what the fuck like?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: She Stiller doesn't care about blowing up anything.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: You would have been dead before you came up to me,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: so as I saw some men come up to me
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: boom gone.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: No, but this thing she walked up, That's what happened.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: She didn't, you know, they didn't go looking for her.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: She walked up like hey, hey please, I'm on crack.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I need help. And they're like, oh my god, here
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: comes you know, like here comes Jane again.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Whenever they bring her in, they're like, as you wanted
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: your like lady or whatever to lady to Jane Ron.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she also says she revealed herself to the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: town and then probably after that, walked up like hey,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I need help. You know, it wasn't like the you
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: know they winning.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: She was following her sister.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Yep, she like was what did she interact with that
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: she was following her sister through the town or whatever.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: She didn't say like she was like, oh, I'm like
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I was just hanging out in town. She was like
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: literally just like at a distance watching her sister or
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: whatever do whatever. So like, no, she let those then
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: capture They had her by her arms. She let them
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: capture her.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: I figured, yeah, and I'm sorry to take a quick detour,
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: but you were talking about the cuts they made earlier.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Yes, this is kind of where it was.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: Confusing in this episode because even with them Allison and
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Helena getting caught, we saw at the end of the
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: last episode the light goes out. We don't know what
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: happened next thing, you know, like none of that is there.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: They're just in the room and she's like, yeah, you're
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: trying to escape.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck caught them?
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: What happened in the hallway?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: No, they showed that. They showed that begin when Cole dies.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: The dudes come in there and they're sitting there and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: they come in there like, oo, here they are, So
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: they found them. The guys coming with the door.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: What about this?
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: She sees the dragons and the next she's getting dragged in.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're not letting up because they don't have
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: enough budget to show.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, basically they don't have a budget to half her fly, Like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: we'll give.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Us a dragon battle, but they don't give us a
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: dragon ride to go follow her sister.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: You won't give us that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So my my timeline is like this. She follows
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: her sister for a while, comes back to her cave,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: realizes how fucked up she is, and then walks up
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to the hill. It's like, hey, you know and then
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: they're like, we told you not to come around here
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and grab her ass up. That's how I thought it went,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: because yes, she's not gonna just go you know, the
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: dragon ain't gonna let them drag her ass out there.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: She had to leave him behind and then go see them.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But that being said, yeah, she gets slapped up, she's
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: crapped out. But I did like her fit. Her fit was,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you know, for a crack ad pretty fire this episode.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Look it was bruh. She had the little hood you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: know she had. It was nice. You know, it looked
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: like easy season up in there.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: All the easy stuff looks like trash.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, well there we go short he is wearing
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: cheery trash. Yeah, so I mean she fits right in.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: She should walk that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: The You know, I'm with Porsche on this. I'm with
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: Master p You are a queen, you are a princess.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: This woman is what a lord a lady? A lady
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: like you just slapped me and talk mad shit to
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: me Like my yo, I will come in here and
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: knock the top off this whole ship and heat this
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: whole rum up.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: Because Okay, I just really feel like this. You know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: you calling her on crack. But there's a couple of
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: screws missing.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's I mean, what happened when you go
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: to crack usually you know it's.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like this, there's definitely a couple of screws missing
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: this little girl because.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: It's like she has the illness. What's it called identity crisis?
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna call what you're calling crack basically her
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: self esteem.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: She her whole like understanding of herself.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Like and I love that we get it with Baylor
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: later that she because whenever she and Alan are talking
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: about there, I mean, we'll get into that. But when
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I talk about their father, she does say that like
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: they are running from ghost and like Bayla's like, you know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: they're both sitting in Alan and Baylor was sitting in
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: a place where they're like they had hoped that their
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: fathers would see them at some point, but they're so
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: busy chasing ghosts that they don't see their own kids.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And that's what's happening with Reina.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Like her mother's dead, yes, and her father don't see her.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Her father's too busy trying to conquer something, doesn't matter
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: what it is. He's to try to conquer something, and
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: so she's never built up who she is in her
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: life besides the fact that she she should be a
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: dragon writer, but she's not that she Like she said
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: in the discussion with Lady Jane, I finally got a dragon,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: but then I lost everything that I had before. So
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: then she's then who is she? If she doesn't have
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: what she had before? She has a dragon, but that
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: dragon don't listen to her, then who is she? And
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: so that's why it's okay for her to get slapt.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Because like who is she?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I don't like I say, she's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: on crap, not being and she's actually smoking crash. She
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: looks like she's smoking crack. But it's more the fact that,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the crack is the dragon. Like she would
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: do anything to get that dragon, and she threw her
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: whole life away to get that dragon. And now it's
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: like I got the dragon, but my life is gone,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you know, And it goes back once again to the wire.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: It's like you wanted to be in the game, now
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you're in the game, and this is part of it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that she has it in her
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: right now to come back and torch this whole town. Like,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think She's like, I deserve to
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: be slapped at this point. You know, she has no
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: self image, no strength of her own, so that's why
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: she don't just put this whole place and portially. I
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to get too much spoilers, but I know
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that in the book this is a completely different character.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: H Nettles, right, it is the name of the character. Yeah,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and how like this feels kind of like where George
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Harr was complaining a lot, like I'm not sure there
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: this storyline is worked for me.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: It's not working for me either. I've been complaining about it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Since Yeah, no, it's season.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I was like that.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, if they're going to do the Dragon writers
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: with all like.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Like you the Hammer and all of them, then Nettles
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: should be popping up to They gave us this instead,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: And I was like, no, Ne's supposed to.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Be over there.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: This makes her character dumb, idiotic. It just it does like,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you know, what is happening? What do you mean?
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, Like what is this for?
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I don't get it because it's
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: like we get Damon, it's a terrible fault. We already
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: knew that, and it makes her so like ignorant and
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: oblivious of which you know, the damage she's prausing.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: And also like who the fuck she is like targarian princess.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: She has a just a strong, big dragon.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Her dragon is bigger than a ring near A's dragon,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: and you're it's just it's befuddling. And I want to
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: say as well that what happens with Nettles and storyline
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: is that a Damon spends time with Nettles. Ye, so
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: I was hoping whenever we saw Damon pop up at
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: the cave and speak to her that what we're going
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: to see is Damon like go back to kings Landing
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: enough to just kind of like put Rainier off. They
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: come back, yeah, and spend time with Raina for the
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: first time in her life, and then like them figure
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: out this dragon thing together.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: This being left off to like now, Jane, this is
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: just I don't know what to do with this at all.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like it all said, like even though I
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: understand why she got slapped, I don't like it, you know.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's it's like the writers have written her
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: into this character who gets slapped and even though like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: she didn't make the right choice, she abandoned kids, you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to do what she gotta do. So it's like, now
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit around and get slapped by this woman.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Nah man, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: I wish i'd know what Nettles was. I wish that
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: I understood, I was able to compare the two. Maybe
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: I'd be able to see more. But as a person
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: who just watches the show, I'm just like, Okay, so
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: when is the coming of age of this?
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: When is does she redeem herself? Like what is this?
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Where is it going?
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: How low is she gonna go?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: But aimoned at least whenever he got his dragon or whatever,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: like it was like he we see what aiman trajectory was.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: He goes, he goes harder whenever he's like fighting or
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: whatever is the commander or whatever. But like with her,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: it's just like she gets her dragon and then it's
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: just like and this is what happened. When a little
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: girl gets power her dragon, she just declines on down to.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Like be slacked by somebody under her rank.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And that's where we are. That's a big problem with
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: this show and with how Demon Thrones in general is
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: how it treats women who get power is like it's
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: always like big hand, handle it, you know, burn everything.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So do we want to talk about her sister?
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Poor?
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Sorry, sorry I didn't even do that, but it just
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: it came out. But if you fuck it with two brothers,
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: you know, I had high hopes.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: In a time of war. Once again, these writers, y'all,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like they are disspect them Baylor and and
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: do it like that. Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: They I didn't even realize her name was Baylor. I've
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: always looked at her as babes. Hey, now you funk
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: with the one you got the white boyfriend cool? No
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: problem saying they ain't did nothing to me. If he cool,
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: if you're on outside, you're on outside.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I don't know. If he
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: invites to cookout, No, Jace wasn't invited.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: No, Jason's locking his mom.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: He was chill.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: But when white boys listen to this guy over the
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: cook when white kids don't listen to their parents, know no,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: that that's the initial See this is the problem. Look,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I grew up with white kids. When they don't listen
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: to their parents, it is it's on the road to Columbine. No, no,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: next thing, you know, I can't. He's cute.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: So he passes right, and she's struck trying to save him.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: She saved the one.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: She was trying to save him again, couldn't do it.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: He passes.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: What does she do?
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: Did she have like an intimate scene with him of
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: some sort where we like, very flirtatious.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: It was flirtatious intimate.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: He was in my DMS, that's what they say. It's
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: the same thing he was in my DMS. He tried
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: to talk to.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: The same as kissing a man.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: If you're going back and forth in the DMS, come on,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that's when it becomes.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Back and forth in dms' equivalent to kissing.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not talking to her. I was
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: talking to her now. I'm just saying that I'm stopping
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: at she was flirting with at him heavy.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: It sounds territorials, but it's sounding.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, I'm saying that. No, I see, I'm
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: not calling her a lady. I'm saying my girl chose up?
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: She said, why not both? It's wartime. I'm trying to
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: get over this grievances. I ain't got time to choose.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Let me see if one of y'all makes it through this,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. In the meantime, I'm having fun.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I'm young, I'm beautiful, I'm out here, I got a dragon.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: There.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: There are brothers where this isn't a big deal.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: If these two brothers are the type where this isn't
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: a big deal, I'm not sure. But I also when
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: we get to the end of this episode, I want
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: to say something. It's about what they show us. I
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: don't like when when shows movies show us things right
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: because there's a reason you're seeing it, you know what
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: I mean. So why did they show her flirting with
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: the other one if they was gonna come and have
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: and do and men do crazy shit behind women.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Oh no, this is going this is like this is
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a Leah jay Z and Dame Dash. This is not
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: going to end well, Okay, I just I.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Do want to say I asked one question though, because yes,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: she is like cooy or whatever with Adams says what
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: he says. But Adam's the one who makes the overture.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Like it's the difference because what I'm saying is who
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: she attracted to versus like who was she entertaining, because
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: she was like entertaining Adam whenever he was like I'll come,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: She's like telling him her like her struggle her, like
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I know who I am.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: I'm a lady of the court.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Rainiera's going to marry me off with some other man,
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to have to go along with it
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: because I do have a dragon. I am a targarian,
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: and that's gonna be my fate. Like that, I'm going
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: to be enough value for me to go to.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I get it. I understand why she would do it.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: She was not her talking to Adam about it was
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: what it was.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: She knows who Adam is. That's her her uncle that
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: she just.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Got to become acquainted with, so like she knows that
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: he's not as like into the like nobility life as
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: she is or whatever. So it's kind of like she's
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: running something off of like someone else who's like has
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with whatever is going on with the
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: power struggles. He's never going to be again because he's
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: not even a legitimized yet. He wouldn't be When to
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: throw his hat in a ring for her hand or whatever,
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: she's just kind of like throwing it in so I
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: understand that it's like a kind of mutual attraction or
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: something happening. But she stood up and as soon as
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: she saw Alan like kind of like be like attracted her,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: she started getting closer to him, like she was walking
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: up to Alan, she was.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Initiating that kiss.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: So I feel like what we're seeing is that she
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: has more interest in one brother than the other.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Where is that going?
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like if uh Alan gets killed in this episode,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: she right back in Adam's arms, but she.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Wasn't in Adam's arms. And from the.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Beginning, okay, true opportunity didn't happen yet. You know, it
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: was dark, it was quiet down.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: There, dragging right in together this whole time.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: That's the first time we see them alone together talking
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: is like that's what they interact, like, like, come on, I'm.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Girl into a ping pumble.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: I don't like it. I don't like it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: You don't like their brothers, And this is happening, Like
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: if she was talking to I don't mind, how would
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: you feel?
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: I just you know, it's more for one. I get
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: you what you said with the territorial, Maybe I'm territorial.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: I'm the only child.
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: I don't like to share, right, but when I think,
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: you know, I always think about Game of Thrones, and
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: you know that first season Ned's head rolling. That shit
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: traumatized me. So now I'll always pay attention to what
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: they're doing. And you know, they like climactic moments. They
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: love that, they loved some climacic shit, and them doing
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: that with I think it's way bigger than the Adam
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: Allen thing with her.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: More than with each other, you know what I mean.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: I'm just wondering what that looks like when one gets
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: jealous that she's with the other one and he was
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: feeling her first, and he has a dragon, and the
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: other one is to fake hand like he is, like,
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: you know, is the power thing of one was the
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: first mate on the ship while the other one was
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: kind of still in the house.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: He didn't have much. So now he came up, you know,
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: and his brother's.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: Not a hand like, oh and you got the girl
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: and you the head, Well I got this dragon, and
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: so I wonder what that looks like. You know what
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, I'm just thinking about what they trying to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: show us. You know, they're trying to walk us down.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't think it's gonna end well, basically yeah,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: and it.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: Never does with women. I'm sorry, master P. When when
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: men in the room with women.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: She always they always fight, Bro, there's always this this.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Sword fight over the women.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: And she now that they're showing us this connection between
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: both of them.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: To me, that's saying.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: Something I don't know. And there's two episodes left, so
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: I think about that too.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: One of the may making it out of this season.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't. I don't
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: one of the three.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: It's two episodes left, like maybe you don't knowe like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: a left triangle that goes on into the next season.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: There's only one more season, so you know, maybe yeah,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and maybe one of them dies in the first two
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: episodes in next season. But either way, they are not
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: long for this, you know show or West Throws, whatever
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: you want to call it. They are out of here,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't mind it, like like I cannot
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: stand what they're doing with her sister. There's something more
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: like you know, Shorty's got trauma, you know, she lost
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Jay's things is rough out here. I don't know if
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna live to see tomorrow. Like she said, I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: want to do something for myself right now, they gonna
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: try and marry me off Fitt. You know, got hot
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: brothers right here. Let's have some fun.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: That's what they do in the military.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean, that's how I go.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: So I was, I'm not mad at it. And at
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: least she living it up, you know what I mean,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: like rain over here struggle at least Baylor, you know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: like I say, got two hot brothers, like, oh for
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it girl, literally her uncles. Okay, I mean, look, we
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: are not we are obviously past that in West Throws.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: You know this ain't no. Somebody explained it to me though.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Look they're like, as long as it's not brother and sister,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: it's not incess in West Groks.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: Helena all right, but that is.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Can we talk about Helene now what she says to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Allison at the end, because Helena said.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Why why am I here? Why am I Why didn't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: you wasn't there some high law or they have wanted me?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Why did you marry me to my brother?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm incest, Yeah, straight up, that's the married me
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: to my brother. Yeah. I was just trying to see
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: what would happen.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: And Allison was like, oh, I just didn't want you
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: to go anywhere?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Like how many kids have had that be this their
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: story where they're like their parent did not want them
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: to go anywhere, so their parents put them in a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: worse situation than them actually going out and doing their own.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: Things that they're laying are not working, bro, Like, what
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: are we doing?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: We got to talk about Ormond and GWayne, and I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: have to say, I suggested this last week. I feel
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: like Wayne should be a lot more hurt when he
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: finds out about Cole and Allison was and yeah, and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little bit more romantic than
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: we And then I, you know, well I said this
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: last week. I feel like Wwayne is you know, I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: don't know, in love with cold, but I feel like GWayne,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: like Ormand makes a straight line about He says, I'm
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: sure you found you know, loving the company and men
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: or hope in the company and men whatever it was like,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: he calls them gay.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have been gay multiple times.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've going to the bath, keep your back up
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: against the wall, like yeah, that's multiple things.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's straight, it's straight homophobe. And he's calling
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: GWayne gay And I've been said that. I feel like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Wayne might be gay and might.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Have been specifically for Coal like.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: That was well, I just don't I thought in general,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: and Cole was his you know, this was the I mean,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: like they're both dope fighters all that ship. You know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: he saw a kindred spirit and Cole you know, so
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be devastated. But I love seeing
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: GWayne whoop that as this episode boy, because man, that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: was that was like firefights for both of them. Scenes
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: and Wayne put in work.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: I loved how much it revealed about Ormond this episode.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, what a bitch I swear.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, there's I was waiting for us to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: see what because like the they gave us that tidbit
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: early about him being not able to take in spell
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: it's like bad smells.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, how are they going to play this out?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: Because I knowing what I know about what's going to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: happen in this universe, I know that plays a part somewhere,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: like a couple of different things. I did not know how,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like, but they gave it to its so early.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Where are we going to see that going forward? So
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I love that that came out here where it's like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have the stomach, Like he plays the war
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: game really well. He talks and stuff all the time,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: but when it comes to actually having the stomach to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: take somebody out.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: He don't got it right.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: No, And it was like, how you disrespect the GWayne
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: And like Gwyn said, I've been out there slaughtering folks
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: and you over here, you know, living it up in
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: the house doing nothing.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: It's always like that.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: I don't think gayin't gonna care that much about Cold
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: Diane because of what Cole put him through on his
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: death walk, Like he already knew that's what was coming.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: He knew that's where he was going. It was a
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: conversation that was had. Somehow he got away. I don't
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: know why he wasn't in that battle.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: Do y'all know that?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Why was he left?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: Left?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: He left in the middle of the night. Him and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: three of his homies rolled out. They rolled out while
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Cole's given the speech. He's like, looks like, oh I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: saw them, that was him. That Yeah, that's him.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Was like, let's go okay, so that I didn't know
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: that was him?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: To me, that's their goodbye. Yeah, I don't really think
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean that he said too much
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: about that.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think Hole gets mentioned after this episode much
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: because I think that's like, you know how other than
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: like you said, the Masters do remember him. I don't know,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: but I don't think, you know, well, they gotta have
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: some reaction from Allison. They got to so like, she's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: not gonna have time for that. I mean, it's not
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: being quick like, oh well, it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Might be because I feel like I feel like one
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: thing they've done in the previous seasons generally is that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: whenever it brings it poor, so that she might be
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: hearing some bad news already about something else that's closer
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: to her and her kids, and then they oh, and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: of course Christiman Cole's dead too.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, like that's just had to cry about
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: that time.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think so, she's not gonna have time
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: for that.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: She's not gonna have time for that.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: So maybe Qwayne GWayne might get it quick, you know,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: like GWayne, I.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Think I too. Tito's point.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: I think his walk home, like his walk from where
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Christram Cole was to back to well, not home to Templeton,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: where would be home for him if like if Tahoe's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: plan for Old Town were to come from. He I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: feel like that walk home, like when he gets in
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: front of Ormond, like you see how like disaffected and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: just down. I think that's that was his briefing. Like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: he probably greathed the whole way there. I think he's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: probably done with breathing. By the time he hears about Cole.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: He'll probably be like, well, that's what he was doing
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: for I already I.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Already knew he was marching to his death anyway. I've
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: been grieving.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: I grieved it the whole way here. So yeah, of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: course this is just getting confirmation on him. But I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: already knew was gonna happen.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: But I think listen Darn's true feelings about Ormond. I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: think that was the real part bier in itself, where
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: you hear from I never really heard from Darron before.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: You heard him a little bit like maybe a little
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: one work creates quips or whatever.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: But he's actively talking about how much he hates this dude,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: how much he feels like.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: He knows he's gonna die.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: He knows he's never he's not the real king, He's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: never gonna be the real king.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: He wants helped get me out of here, protect me right.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: There's a whole dynamic there that's very important when it
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: comes to Darren, GWayne and Ormond. There's like a try
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: there's like a weird triangle relationship there that they that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: they address. I found that really interesting. I didn't know
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: that Darren like actually spoke.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: And had heart too, because you also get to see
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Darren fighting down your training and he's serving dudes. He's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: like three on one, it should be easy for y'all,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: and he still whoops the ass.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's getting busy, getting busy.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: So Darren is definitely gonna be a problem as his
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: dragon gets bigger and as he grows more into himself.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I love that whole shit, like I love GWayne. Dwayne
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite characters right now. So you
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: know his interaction with him when he's like, you know,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: if you just have to be king, you know you
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: can do all whatever you want, and he's like, I'm
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: never be king, Nigga and DNS, I need a nap,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Like he ain't got nothing for him. He's like, yeah,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: you're right, you ain't never gonna be king. I don't
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: know how we're gonna get about it is you. And
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: that's the and that's the sad part about it is
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: even through everything, Wwayne still goes back to Ormond, like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: what's the plan? You know, because he can't save him.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: He knows that, and the best he can do is
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: hang around and try and mitigate what happens to Darren.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: But you know he's also at the same time, he's
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: still going down with Ormond and yeah, what do you mean?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Wayne says, I want to go back to old town,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: like I don't want to be here.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I'm the second son or men can.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Go do whatever he wants to do.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back and take care of stuff back
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: home like I don't. I'm gonna be where it needs
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Yo.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Who the hell are these Celles Sords?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Though, that's the same Barrathians who come to meet her
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: earlier in the episode, and that's why she's like, give
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: me your belt.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: The same guys.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is, yep, that's why she says give me
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: your belts. He don't look like the top dog because
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: he had a big dog belt on, and she's like,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: give me your belt and then go over there looking
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: like you know, regular dudes get all dirty and ship
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: and it was very because that's one thing this I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: like the cuts, but then this episode also in the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: writing was very like straightforward. You know, She's sitting there like,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: who should I send over there as an assassin? Ma'am
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the Braffians are here. Oh perfect, I'll send them as
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: my assassin. You know. Yeah, it was that kind of thing. Okay,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, so she sends them over there and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: they all get slaughtered. She also says it to them.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: She's like, you know, when I sent my son to
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: your house, you know, he was supposed to be under
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: your protection, and what happened then? Mitch, sure, I got eight.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I thought that.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: But why they look so different when they got over
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: there and they was.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Dirty and stinking, and they did that on purpose.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: They showed Ormond's smell things.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Did you see how he he went up to go
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: read them and then he slowly started back dialing back
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: and then it became behind GWayne and Wayne the whole
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: time is like looking for a tell. He's like, nah,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: somes off. He's like watching them, but he's also noting
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: like Ormond. Like when you see Ormond come behind him,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, of course this guy's going back of
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: the air like like it was very like it was subtle,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: like the little things that they did, which you could tell
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: the dynamic between them as brothers.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: But then also how GWayne is the better fighter and more.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Like he's the one who's actually fought. I think Orman's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: ever been in a real fight in his life.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: No, no, probably never had to fight anybody that smelled
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: worst of armpits.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, and he's never definitely killed anyone, you know,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: he ain't done that.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: But also like shows you why he had Darren be
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: the one who stabbed.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Up because he couldn't do it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: He couldn't do it.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, you're right. And then are y'all making this up?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: No notice? Fact, No, it's all it's all. No, this
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: is it. And it's also his fears or whatever reluctance
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: and smells hatred of stink is what saved his life
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: because if he hadn't batted up, that dude would have
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: got him. But because he has to back up behind GWayne,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: GWayne has a chance to grab a knife and cut
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: his throat.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, all that was all there, like you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: everything is like you like portion said, that's why he
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: gave Darren the Sword because he couldn't do himself, because
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: he's never killed anyone. That's what this one show. He
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: has never been in a fight. When people die around him,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: he throws up immediately. He can't handle that.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: Well, I couldn't even I just say, they're all that
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: blood and guts.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Bro oh yeah yeah, I probably can be like.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: I'm putting like I'm you know, a coward.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, all them guts and bowels
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: just flying all over here.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: The same.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I can I can write a dragon all
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: day long because this just burn it.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: I can do that.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: But what up close? My man cut my man like
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: straight to the b He lift his head up with the.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: He's like, yo, look, you know.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: I was, oh my, oh god, I put my food
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: down like this is disgusting.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: That was disgusting.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: And again and he also noticed that he was more comely,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: you know, he's like more you know, now to do
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: was way hotter than this guy like.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: This.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: But but I think he said it as a as
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: a like in spite of Ormond being homophobic.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, yeah, they like you're.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Talking to me. It's so funny, my blah.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: But I actually noticed stuff that you don't notice because
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: you know what, but I do, so keep that yourself.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: No, he was definitely soning Ormond throughout.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Did you kill all five of them himself?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: What's his name?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Guard helped him.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Meet Joe Black? I don't know his name?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: Do it?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: The dark hair?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: And then I guess we do need to get to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: that ending.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Because he shows up with Corless.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well first we got to get to another point.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Alan and Corliss meeting up, and Alan straight up called
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: him a deadbeat. I told y'all, and again, okay, this
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: is I gotta address this real quick because this is
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: it's hilarious. The comments are like, people are all over
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: the place in our comments right now. Some people say
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: that we hate on Corlis because he's black. Some people
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: say that Corlis isn't black. I know Corli's isn't black.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Corlis is a Valari and he's never experienced any type
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: of racial angst in his life. He doesn't know about
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: toxic whiteness, none of that.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: His accurate?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: Are you are you fba right now?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying no, in general, I'm just saying
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: in general, No, I don't mess with the FBA's either. No,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I think that all these guys is nuts. I'm just
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: saying that, like like I said many a time before,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: he does not represent black people. I'm not judging him
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: because he's black. I don't see my father in Corliss
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and a lot of this other nonsense. Like I said
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: earlier in the episode, Damon's a deadbeat. There's a lot
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of deadbeats on this show. It just happens that Corlis
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: is one of the top deadbeat dads. As his own
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: son tells him how many years that it takes here
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: years years? And what's supporters do? Sit there and stun Signnce.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: He ain't got shipped to say, just like all you'all
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: comments need to be sitting there and stunts on us.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I know you're not going to be, and I'm ready
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: for it, so come on, bring it in.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Let me just say though, too, that his deadbeat dad
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: response is legit. Like the whole point, it's his own
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: words being thrown in his own space, and that's why
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: he can't He can't say anything because all Alan asked
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: him to initiate this is Oh how.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Long are you going to remain angry?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: And he says, well, how long blah blah you're gonna
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: take big legitimate yees.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah's taking you.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: We know everyone here knows, like we're you're bluffering, you're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: blustering around, you're doing all this, all this, we all
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: know the real reason why you're angry is because you're
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: angry at yourself. We know that's the real reason. So
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: like like make her, Oh she's asking for more, she's
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: never enough with her. We know the real reason why
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: you're mad, Like, stop playing.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: And I love that. Alan was just like.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: She the queen when she's not gonna ask for more,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: like she always don't need more. That's what a queen
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: does her hand. And people keep saying that, like they're like, oh,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: he should do this, he should do that. It's like, no, bro,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: he should do what he's supposed to do. Be the hand,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: serve the queen.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: If he wanted to not be the hands, he could
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: have rejected it.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: You know why he didn't reject it because he wants
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: his name in history books as the hand to the queen.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: You know what else Cordless does, like I just makes
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: me so annoyed. I was irritated by him.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: He like gets on my nurse because well, because the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: main thing that Allan is asking for here is him
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: to actually let him be legitimate, because he's asking for
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: confirmation from Corliss that he can as his replacement on
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: the court and also.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: As his son. Quote un because no legitimate an illegitimate son.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Do I have an power to write to the Valerians
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: and tell them to send us Valerian men, because that's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: what I want to do. But we we both know that,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: like they're gonna obey you because you're the actual lord.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: I'm just your illegitimate son. So what he's legit asking
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: Carlos is I'm legitimate. Right, If I'm so legitimate, can
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: I ask for the men? And what Cole says, it's like, yeah,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: go ahead and do it. But this is we're having
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: a discussion about legitimacy, and this is a thing that
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: he has to come and ask his father.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: If he were raised by his father, he wouldn't have
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: to ask, he would just do it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: And it's also like he's not just a dead beat there,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: he's a deadbeat granddad because like we even see you know,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Bayla talking about that, like that's people talk about oh,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: he went and offered her a place on the ship. Nigga,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: this woman rides dragons, Like, why would she ever give
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: that up to ride on the ship. And he should
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: have known that. Like she says, they don't see us,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: you know they don't and like you said, Porsche in
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: the place she's sitting in the dragon pit where she
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: feels like, Yo, this is where I finally should have
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: gotten recognized by all the people, my dad, by my granddad,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: by whoever, and nobody sees us because I'm surrounded by
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: dead beats.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: Right when we talk about Coilers and we talk about
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: his anger towards Raynerra, I think it was just so ironic,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: bro that his own find, the one that you're mad for,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: is looking at you like you cannot be serious. One
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: of this season, his son was like, yo, yo, remember
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: episode one and I told you leave me the funk
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: alone about all that shit. I just want to be
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: first mate because I don't fuck with you like that,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: since you ain't fuck.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: With me and my brother and my mother like that.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: That was like five episodes ago. Now all the.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Seasons he that was this season five episodes ago.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: I just told you go fuck yourself respectfully, I just told.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: You that, and now you mad angry in the forest,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: bugging like where's the boats?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Why are you hanging people?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Where's the boats?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: You don't even got no boats, So you're just out
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: here doing whatever when you got a whole job that
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: now you got me doing and you doing it for me,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna come ask you.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Come do your.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Fucking job, my nigga.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: And if Corliss was there, think how those meetings would
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: have been going, because Corliss is the one who can
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: talk to Damon and tell him shut the fuck up.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: You know, he can also manage to talk to the Mandola. Reason, yes,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: but no, he's out here in the woods his head. Yep,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: it's okay.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: I gotta ask you because you brought this up a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: couple episodes ago, and I want to say, then you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: kind of like you gave it more heat because like
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: you called how you called Cole as being a scorpio,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: and then Ben said he was Drake, and Drake is
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: a scorpio, So I feel like that's a double Like yeah,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: like he solidly that scorpio behavior right there. But do
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: you if you were to say a zodiac signed for Corlis,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: who would you say it what it is Leo.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: I said, he's Leo.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: He's a Leo, and not do nothing to them.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: Bro, They going do this weird ship where they sold you. Right,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: you can't put a mirror in front of it and
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: you can't tell.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Do it they Yeah, Pisces like me would have been
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: pissed off at first, but I would have seen reason
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: in the day and come home.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let never coming on. You ain't never lying that way.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, No, that's how they act, right, they've been a Virgo,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: but virgo virgo since you know what, it could be
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: a Virgo too, because you can't talk ship to a
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: virgo taking it to hell and that whole your.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Sons are bastards.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Virgo, very bugloss, very virgo for.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Him to take it all the way to hell like
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: that immediately.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Virgos are the prime example of when a good girl's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: doing bad, they gone forever, boy, they're going forever.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he's like a Virgo. Maybe it's a virgo
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Mars or a virgo. Yeah, so Mars is like how
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: you say action, like how do you move? And I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: can see him be like a Leo son and like
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: a virgo Mars like he moves like a virgo.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, because no, definitely that Leo though,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: because that you can't tell that nigga shit. And he
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: he never learns the lesson. He's like, Okay, now it's
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: time to go home. Oh I get gaffled, you know,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: like now only I've drawn home, you know three weeks ago.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna watch back Home with his son?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, this episode. You had to chance this episode and
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: know so now you get gaffled?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: What is this gaffling?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: He's not dead. Your cordless is straight up like the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: reverse Kenny, like, you know, instead of getting killed every
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: episode like he you know you think he gets killed
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: every episode.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: They didn't kill Kenny.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's three fate death for this man now three,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Like this is ridiculous. He's he's out pace Magneto. Now
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: what what is it?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Who is it?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Ormond in them have him captive. I think that
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: he's you know, gonna come over to me, like, yo,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: get down with this, bro. Look how we living over here?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: They over there not legitimizing your son's I'll take the throne,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: my man, Darren, will make your man's legitimized, you will
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: have this, you'll have that. But da da dah, we
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: smell good. That's that's what I feel like the plan is.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: And Mason, does that sound right? Said, so you.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: Kid, I don't know, but I will like I like right,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: it's not in a book, so I can't. I don't know,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: but I will say, like conjecture, I think Ormond knows
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: a pretty good amount what's happening in the world. So
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: he has to know that that Corlis doesn't have the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: same like money and stuff that he had before the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: battle that they had in the first.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Episode before the gullet, before the gullet.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to say that he's going to try
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: to make him an offer that he can't refuse.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, straight up, I think that he's going to be
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: a prisoner. I don't think he's going to have any
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: like he's not going to be as free as like
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Alison and Helena are in a castle until he feels
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: like he gets what he wants. But I also don't
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: know is he's a prisoner because he There's not enough
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: going on with Ormond's side that makes it legitimately enough
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: for rain Nia to do something with the only thing
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: she did was stirred up by having Brathians go over there.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: So, now, so you saw that he send the message
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: back to Rainier. That was like you kick the dog,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: it's gonna bite you. He's this is inviting back. It's
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: his retaliation to having those assassin sent over there.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Yep. And for all she knows, he's dead because you know,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: they slaughtered everybody else in that camp. I'm sure.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: And again it's like who knows who, Like what the
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: message is going to be, Like what he's he gonna
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: say to Rainier? Is he going to just make it work?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: Courses off the table for a while, don't know why
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: know where he is?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. We do need to distress off
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Hugh Agon and whatever he's doing over there. But Hugh
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: a man showed up looking like an ice agent. Folks, Like,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: I was nuts. Yeah, that that was rough, Like that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: was one of the roughest seems for me, Like you know, short,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: He's saying, you know, do you know what happens to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: women on the road, like you know so, And I
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: feel like h and all are like two sides of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: the same coin of being, you know, due to I
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: think they deserve more than you know, I mean, not
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: more than what they deserve. You know, they're both dragon riders,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: but like you see of this episode, his hair is
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: all grown out, you know, he's really like, look at me,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a dragon rider, you know, you know, And it's
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: it's like the opposite of Off, who's you know, over
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: here getting kit them forced into the dirt. But it's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like, we're both dragon riders and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: we feel like we deserve more than what we're getting,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: and that's going to lead to some horrible shit.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: I just told y'all about what I would do as
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: the hend I would have chopped Off's head off two
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: episodes ago.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: He's not worthy of this dragon.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: He's paying attention to all though that could chop off
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: his head.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Damon then we could have definite chopped his head off.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about Damon and Off. I can
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: talking about you first. We're talking which one are we
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: talking about first? Let's go with you first, okay, So
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: for you, I just feel like something that is consistent
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: across this whole show is people questioning people's motives and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: like how much people are willing to say they're doing
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: it for someone else. And they're really doing it for
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: themselves and his wife but also Alison Helena also.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Like just so many.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: I aimened, like what are we doing this for? Right?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah we stout and yeah right right.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: So I just feel like his wife like saying I
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: needed you here. One thing that I keep confronting being
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: out here dating and stuff is like the understanding of
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: like men that like the provider, idea whatever, and like
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: being like, oh, I see the greater vision how we're
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: going to get there.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: I'm providing.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do the bigger thing and take care of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: the household by baking the bigger plays or whatever. And
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: I can't listen too much to like all the small
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: details because like that's not my rain.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: You do that. But sometimes the small stuff is bigger than.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: What is given, what's been implied with the tension or whatever.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: And I feel like that's kind of what's playing out
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: here is that he's like is he he's probably felt
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: all his life because he the hammer is kind of
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: more of a he knows how illegitimate, he how close
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: he is to his targarians because his mom was like
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: like one of the targetan.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: We talked about his like Orges story. A while back,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: like a couple of seasons ago.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: His mom basically was doing the most partying it up,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: party girls, sex parties, all that stuff. Her parents were like,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: we can't do nothing with their She's out here with everybody.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: They tried to betroth her to a couple of different
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: lords that didn't work out. She slipped off when Toesos
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: has like a whole like pleasure house thing that she's
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: doing over there. Hugh is one of her kids that
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: she never really cared about.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: He's in King's Landing.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: So he's always known that his mom is a Targarian,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: so he's always harbored in his heart.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: I should be able to be doing with the Targarians
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: are doing.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: At the same time, he's building a life of his own,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: has a wife, has a kid, the kids, dot dies
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: or whatever, and so it feels like the wait for
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: him to make up for his pride, for him to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: be the man of the house. In a way, it
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: is for him to go get the thing he's always
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: supposed to have, have a dragon, and now that he
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: has it, he's like, oh, I did this for both
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: of us. I did this for us, but it's like
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: you did it for yourself, Like if you were worried
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: about what was going on at home, you would have
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: been at home.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I get out of it, as I'll say,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: as a man, I've had to learn that lesson, like,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: you know, very hard, like in life, and it's definitely
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: cost me relationships and everything right to learn that. It's
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like nothing really matters as much as
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: taking care of home, you know, and making sure everything
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: right is at home, because it's like all the money
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: in the world ain't gonna bring you that happiness that
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: a happy home will and that a happy life will.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: So I disagree.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: I'm actually getting cursed out on my on my page
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: Of men and women are raised differently, yes, right, like men,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: you're not a man if you don't provide.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not a man.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: If you don't do certain things that get you to
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: be respected. Respect is a bit big deal, right you
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: act you'd rather be love or respecting.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of men say respect.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's a problem though, you.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: Understand and maybe right, But when you're socialized a certain
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: way and you're and he's looking at it, he's looking
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: at his mom Tigerian and he wants to be this man.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: To this family.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: His sense of worth is on a deeper level, right,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: So his identity, he has to establish something that says
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: I am and the targarian king line and the line
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: of king's husband, whatever it may be. He needed to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: find that for himself, bro, being being a person that
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: like he did the grain he did, the running out
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: into the street to get the food for the family
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: and trying to keep his daughter.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: He did all that already. It was never enough. It
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: wasn't enough.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: He had to suffer that, whereas where his wife, you know,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: may have dealt with the fact that they're doing it
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: that passed away and you know in her own way.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: He is gonna deal with it in a different way.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: And I think men and women exist on this planet differently.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's whew, that's how we come
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: out the you know, the condition or socialization, but I just.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: Think that we are bred differently.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: His tru his what his wife is asking is like,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: for go what makes you you, what made you feel whole?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: For Go whatever trauma that you went through that got
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: you to today. For Go all of that and live
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 6: for me. I don't think that's healthy, bro.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: But she's also saying, make a fucking choice, nigga, you
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: chose me.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: You didn't choose that targarian shit. If you wanted that
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: your whole life, then you should have gone after that
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: your whole life and never did have a pad.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a play for that.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: That ain't on me. Fam You gotta find out that play.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: If you want that, you gotta make it for yourself.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: You get married to somebody, you're still you, yeah, but
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: you gotta feel them.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: You gotta look together, but you still have your own shit. Yeah,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: and you gotta find someone who is like that, like
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: the DJ. It took me forever to find someone who understood, Yo,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: this man's trying to go out at night. He's done
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: to be in clubs. That's part of it. That was
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: one of the hardest things because no one gets that.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: They always think, oh, Sonny, he's a DJ and we're together.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Now you're trying to stop being in clubs. And that
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: was impossible. But see, he didn't do that. He was like, oh,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: here's a good woman. I'm a fucker life up.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: Well you was doing I was agreeing with you, so
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: I was agreeing with you the whole time. I was
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: sitting here shaking my head, and I have to think
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: about it, like, wait, what, No, that's not what he's.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Said, But go ahead, man, but that's what he did.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: I do feel bad for him. I definitely feel bad
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: for her. I feel horrid for her.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: Yes, his success is meant certain harm to her.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: Mm hm not because if you think about it, right
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: before he left, there were riots in the street.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally riots in.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: The street, and he left her in the midst of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: all of that. That's what I'm saying, Like, so I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: feel like that's what it's. I think the like the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: push pull of like you made their first commitment, like
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: you look, before he committed to being a targarian, has
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: been said, he committed to this woman, Yep, At what
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: point was he going to just make sure that she's
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: okay before he go?
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Like at least the minimum of that, Like, yeah, if
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: you're if you're.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: Just, if you're honoring your commitments, why didn't you honor
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: the one with your wife first she thought he was dead.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell you to fucking walk along the road
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: to fucking.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Way, Okay, But what were like, I had no choice,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: let's get into it. He went off with all those guys,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: all the people who because multiple people who were like
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: who were possible bastards of the Targarians.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: He went up there with all of them all. She
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: never she has not heard it.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: From him since he got his dragon, So this she
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: knows what happened to most of those people who went
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: to the dragon pit.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: They mostly died. So she thought, this man is dead
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: the whole time, A.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: Far right down the block. So I don't know why
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: you could.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: And out of the tavern multiple times.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: I got a dragon. I'll be back, yeah, and for
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: it right now.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: He asked for a house and ship, but all you
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: have to do is go get her and put her
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: in a room, Like he didn't need none of that, Like,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: but did he really want to go get her as
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: the thing?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: And then when he.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: Shows up to get her his and she confronts him
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: with the fact, like do you know what has happened
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: to me for me to get here? Like he yokes
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: her up. She she just told you she was traumatized
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: by her time on the road, And you go like,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: that's your reaction. Did he really want her or did
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: he just like like the idea that's I don't like
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: that they did that to us.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: I don't like that bro that you know, knowing that
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: she he left her and then she apparently was assaulted
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: and whatever.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: Days like, damn, why did y'all can't why y'all so mean?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: It's the cold world and.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: She was assaulted by like her brother died because she
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: was assaulted.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just the season, Yeah.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: A couple of episodes ago.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: This is nasty.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got Off.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: I don't like Off. I've never liked Off. I don't
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: think Off is. They're building him to go against rain Erra.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: They the whole time. He's never been good money. Even
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: him finding the Dragon was like he just fell into
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: it and the dragon was like, all right, come on,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: let's ride that.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: He doesn't deserve this, bro.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: And I'm surprised that she's this desperate where she does
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: not see that this person or damon, damon, you can
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: see that this person is not.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: Good for you for this.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, So, here's the thing is, I I feel
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: like every time they're confronted with how bad a fit
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: OFLF is for knighthood or dragon writing, they're basically on, well,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: we just need another body, to be honest, we just
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: need the body.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: Can't you just have a body on a dragon. There's
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: a dragon under this body, the whole dragon, and that
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: dragon is huge.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Jump. Yeah, so you're just gonna have some random drunk
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: on a dragon.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: That's telling you, Yo, right there is desperate.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: I want to go get drunk, but because you don't
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: get you won't let me go get drunk. I just
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: want to let you know, yo, nobody don't fuck with
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: you like that anyway. Just want to let you know
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: if you ain't. No, nobody don't fuck with you. I
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: don't know if you see them in the comments, but
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: in the comments they curse you.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: The fuck out earlier and the shot said.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: I'm a hollow. It's all good.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with everything happening with the common folk, the way
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: it is, the way that Damon is identifiable under the
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: like the city guard armor. Yeah, and he puts his
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: boot on, like literally on oflf in front of a
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: whole crowd of people, is making everything worse that they're
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: already dealing with. And literally, what you're showing people is
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: that it doesn't matter how far you rise from being
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: a commoner to a dragon writer, you're still going to
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: be treated like whatever under the boot of the rich folk.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Like it's never gonna matter. So I think it just
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: makes everything worse.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: Like, and he was talking about right near and making
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: things worse, but he just made it worse.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: And on that note, Shorty sees all this, the little
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: shorty who's part of the conglomerate that is doing against
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: the stabbing people in the streets. So they're gonna recruit, Oh.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: They're gonna recruit.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yep.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: Damon is not good with interpersonal relationships, like, this is
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: what you're doing to the dude that's on top of
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: a big ass dragon. Do you not see the problem
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: in what you doing?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: It's the first time.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: Neither do it to him, but do it behind closed walls.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: What you got to You gotta have better politics. You
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: can't just be slapping around a dude rods of nuke.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: He's writing a nuke.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: You cannot just do that. You gotta have better politics here.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: That's when I talked about Damon being a good like
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: his speech being like good like speech like. He's like
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: very like he knows how to do biting all that stuff.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: He has been able to cultivate that because he's been
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: top dog his whole life, so he does not know.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: To be careful, because why would he ever have to
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: be careful.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: He's been reprimanded for it, He's been put in positions
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: that he didn't want initially because of it, but it's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: never really fully made him like look around and be like, oh,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: I like he beefed it with killing the wrong kid
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: or whatever whenever, but that he didn't do it.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: It was someone else that he paid for.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: He did it, okay, he messed up whenever he was
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: trying to go after Ray near it, but then like
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: backed off and then ended up like VI serious still
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: got rid of him anyway, made him leave the city.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: He messes up, but he never really learns his lesson,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: And I feel like that's what's happening with him now.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: It is just like another time of him. He keeps
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: messing up, but like why would he ever change?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: Like what's the point Because now you there's a lot
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: more at stake, and you're the guy that you always
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: wanted to be. You're right there next to the throne.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: You were never you were just the king's brother before.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: Now you're the guy right and this is how you
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: handle it. At some point you got to accept it's
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: always been you. People have seen you for what you are,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: and you're actualizing that you're now the biggest fuck up
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: because you're gonna turn a dragon against you. You're gonna
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: turn a dragon against you.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be crazy. This happened before.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, if Dragon ever switched sides.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: Besides the Ice Dragon, I.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: Still have beef with the Ice Dragon, but that's a
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: different story.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to forget that pain, all right. Before we
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: get out of here, we do gotta talk about Agon
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: real quick, who seems to be learning some humility this episode,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: and you know, does not go with the guy who
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: tries to butter his biscuit and is riding off the essos. Right,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: that's pretty much Agon's whole art this episode. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: all right, and then we have Amon where shit gets
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: weird again. I felt like that was going that way
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: with Alice, that you know, they were gonna have more
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: than just a mother's son relationship and get sexual with it,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: and it did uh think about it?
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was gross.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: I guess the men are disgusting, Yeah, disgusting.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: We have no standards, like.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: Not make her look like that or is that how
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 6: she really looks? I feel like they make her look
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I find Alice attractive. I just think she's
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: a witch. You know, you gotta you know, you gotta
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: know when I gotta you gotta know, crazy pussy.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: Attractive like like like like what I.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Think she's hot, beautiful woman.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 6: I guess she looks like a white tongue. You don't
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: have another tongue ever have white stuff on it. It's
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: like that's what she reminds you look like a white
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: She reminds me like the taste that you have in
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 6: your mouth when you have a white tongue. It's just tasty,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: Like you know that when you when you open your mouth.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: There's like a spit line between both part of me.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 6: But you know that, Like that's what she looks like.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: She's just very She looks like the white, creamy moss
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: that's sticking to the plastic between the zucchini and the plastic.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: Like that's what she looks like.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: I don't I'm sorry, And she got a fan of
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: me his own you find in the jacket.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you one question. Do those eggs have
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: any chance of hatching?
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: I think what it's hatching is a plot in the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: river lands and more bastards for us to be considered
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: concerned about in future seasons if they do them about
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: dragons inviting.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Because he said they were warm, but they look stone
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: cold to me.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: Like, I think even the eggs that Denaris gets that
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: are like centuries old by the time she gets them,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: they do hatch sometimes, but like it took them centuries
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: before they hash. So like the dragon eggs can be warm,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: it doesn't mean they like not necessarily are going to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: hash anytime soon.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: No, okay, but they're still viable eggs. Okay, so they
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: can go for centuries. That's not a thing.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I mean clearly with Denaris.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Like, but I always thought that was just the nearest
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: in her magic bringing him back, you know, because it
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: was like it.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: Took a big thing.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so maybe a big thing happens here.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: All right, Helena and Alison on their way over there,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: we didn't discuss.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: Can we do two seconds to that?
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: For one?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: Did y'all see Helena's picture or her emproitery? Yes, what
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: do you think that is?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: It's him looking like he's lying in a wound, basically
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: nude in hearing all.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: Right, right, but why why does she draw that? Because
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: over it if you really like, I took a screenshot
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: of it.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: She's there too.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 6: Alice is in that picture too, like so it's him
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: in her vagina and Alice is is like above them,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: like you could see it, like if you take it,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: if you go back and look at it, just take
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: a screenshot of that moment. They She's clearly shown like
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: hovering over him, and he's like, you know, in her
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: womb for whatever not can to a body, but he's
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 6: like in a volvan, you know what I mean. So,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: but I'm wondering what the hell is heinous? And by
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: the way, Helena she always looks like she want to
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: tell somebody when they want to die, Like.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: She's like she's she always looked at somebody like.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: She sees the counter top of her head.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: You see everything lay off.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: But I was waiting for her to tell Alison she's
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: not coming back. She's like, I'm gonna come back for you.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: And Helena's I don't know.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: About that ahead magic crystal balls. It's not like, yeah,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: what do you think? What do we see happening in this?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: I think it's very direct. I think it's exactly what
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: Alice is hoping for. She's a witch, which is tends
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: to get what they want, good or bad, depending on
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: what happens. She clearly is making a pitch to have
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: carried some children of some dragon writers, and she's seducing
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: and making that happen for her.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: And she's also I had this in my notes, lying
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: her ass off the air because she tells him that
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: she wants uh Targarians to run hair in Hall and
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: she just said, fuck any invaders who ever come to
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: hair and Hall, Haro and Hall should be mine and
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: the people who were here before.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: She's a liar, she's lying about what's going on with Bigars.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: She's lying, she's lying. She's she's doing whatever she wants
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: to get what she wants.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: So that's what I agree with you, Mas, that she
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 6: gives me she wants, because if that was the case,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 6: she would have got what she wanted to be Damon.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: Did she really make a play for Damon though.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: She wanted Damon.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 6: She wanted them to give her the castle, sure, and
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 6: they sent her her way.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: And but just who currently is running the castle right now?
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: Guess her?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: So that's after everybody else got killed.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: By Okay, but did she she got what she wanted?
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: She got what she wanted with Helena thing.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: I do want to know that Allison sharing that Helena
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: is a dreamer.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Oh that's not gonna work, I will is.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Significant.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And because I mentioned this before, Yes, Visaras has
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: always had a really big thing about dreamers and the
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: Targarian like legacy. Like the reason why the Targarians went
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: to West Ros in the first place is because one
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: of them had a dream that something was coming for
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: them and Valeria where they're from, and they're like, we
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: gotta go, and where the best place for us to
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: go is West Rows, and so that's where they go,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: so they Visaras has always like had a big thing
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: about that. He talked that to Rayniera, and Rayniera has
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: that same thing now and so as soon as Alison
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: it starts subscribing that stuff to her and you see
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: her kind of like perk up.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: She's like she's a treatment.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Mm hm no. And she's definitely gonna use that next episode,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: we gonna see that she's gonna be like dreams some
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: shit for me, tell me what's gonna happen. You know,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like she's not on my head, say.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not, Like she's not raving what you're just
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: gonna be like get your future vision or whatever. But like,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be interesting because as she now
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  Speaker 4: knows that Alison in them no more than they've been
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  Speaker 4: letting on, and Helena definitely knows way more than she's
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  Speaker 4: ever really understood that Helena has known. So I don't
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  Speaker 4: I wonder how savvy Helena is. She's been able to,
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  Speaker 4: like she's been used by her mom and her brothers
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  Speaker 4: so much, but she's also been in her own occupied,
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  Speaker 4: her own space. So how is she going to be
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  Speaker 4: able to maneuver around right near it?
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  Speaker 3: That's their sisters. I don't that's the whole thing too,
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see how that plays out.
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  Speaker 6: Alison going off to do this, I don't trust her,
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  Speaker 6: but you know, I looked at the flash forward to
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  Speaker 6: next week, it looks like her and Alice are going
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  Speaker 6: to be at having some type of issue.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because Alice is all trying to control
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  Speaker 1: her son.
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  Speaker 3: What real Mommy to Mommy placebo.
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  Speaker 1: There's a new movie coming out, like Fake Mommy or
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: something Second Mommy where it's like there's an evil version
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  Speaker 1: of the mom Yeah, so that's that right here? All right?
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  Speaker 1: We have been here for a good minute. This is
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  Speaker 1: definitely one of the longest episodes of Castle Black. It's
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  Speaker 1: all good man. I'm sure that people enjoyed every second
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  Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean. So Tahoe as always,
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  Speaker 6: On HBO Max Next week mine, Yeah, waiting to see
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  Speaker 6: how they're gonna fuck this up. I'm saying it because
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  Speaker 6: the last the end of the last season.
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  Speaker 2: I hated it.
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  Speaker 1: This is true. But next week is probably gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the most actioning path because that's how HBO usually does
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  Speaker 1: it in most shows do it now. It's like the
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  Speaker 1: pen ultimate episode is the most action path and then
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  Speaker 1: the last episode is for clean up and getting ready
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