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- 0:03Welcome to After Dark of the America Out Wild Talk Video Network.
- 0:07I am your host, Rob Harper.
- 0:09And my coast tonight is Heather Robinson, a contributor for the New York Post.
- 0:13Heather, how are you?
- 0:14Doing great, Rob.
- 0:15Thank you.
- 0:16How are you?
- 0:17Good, Heather.
- 0:18Uh, there's a lot we have to talk about, so we might as well just jump right into it.
- 0:22And I guess top of mind right now is uh what everyone is talking about is Trump's response to Bob Mueller's passing.
- 0:31I've been on Twitter and I've given my thoughts on it and actually made a video.
- 0:36And for the most part, I said that can you blame Trump?
- 0:41Uh this man tried to destroy his first term in office.
- 0:47He marred it with this fake investigation, and all he had to do is just to say that there's nothing there.
- 0:54Now, this does not take away from Bob Mueller being uh his his time that he served in the military, doesn't tick away from his distinguished career in politics.
- 1:06But this is a black eye on his record, and I'm sure that many of you saw him when he went to the heel to testify, and he was completely lost and not knowing anything for the most part about his investigation because he allowed Andrew Weissman to run the investigation.
- 1:28And if you also remember it was Bill Barr who came in after Trump picked him to be the attorney general, came in, and I think to this day, tried to give his friend because they're good friends a way out of this by looking at the facts and saying there is no there, let's move on.
- 1:50Democrats didn't like it, but I think being the person who Bill Barr is.
- 1:55Now, Bill Barr has his own issues, but I think he recognized it for what it was.
- 2:00It was a political hit job against Trump, and no one talks about it now, and they don't talk about it, Heather, because there was never ever any Russia collusion.
- 2:10This was a complete fabrication created by none other than Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, propted up by John Brennan and James Comey.
- 2:24What are your thoughts?
- 2:25Yeah, I mean, honestly, I didn't pay a lot of attention to the Mueller report or the Russia collusion hoax because I was skeptical of it.
- 2:35I I knew there was Trump derangement syndrome is real, and it was very tedious, and I didn't think that there was likely to be anything to it, and now I'm glad I didn't pay attention because there was absolutely nothing to it.
- 2:50All I remember is that Hillary Clinton's campaign fabricated a dossier claiming that Trump had all these mysterious and crooked dealings with Russians, including Russian prostitutes, and it turned out that that was a fabricated document, and they took it before a FISA court and got that court, which was something that was created in the wake of 9-11 to protect the homeland, like allowing warrantless wiretapping, right?
- 3:21In the case of true national security um threats, they they fabricated a document to get a judge to allow them to spy on the Trump campaign.
- 3:32Personally, you know, that's the part I I studied and I know about, and I think that's as bad as Watergate, and I can't get over that the Democrats, including Hillary Clinton got away with that.
- 3:43Um it just shows what a double standard there is.
- 3:47I mean, if you're gonna shist, don't be a conservative, you know.
- 3:53I mean, most people don't even know about that because the mainstream media essentially ignored that that part of the story, and and yes, I don't know what on earth they was wasted the taxpayers' money for for all those years, and what I guess it was just all BS.
- 4:09It's outrageous.
- 4:10And I mean, I I found myself to be the outlier in some conversations uh this past week because most people I know uh were appalled by our president's um candor, what what he said or what he wrote on Truth Social about that he's you know, someone asked him what he what's your reaction to the death of Robert Mueller, and I believe Trump said something about something like good, he can't bother any innocent people anymore.
- 4:37And one thing I will say about our president, you know, he doesn't pay any heed to the shibboleths and the um the the what's the word the mores and the sort of platitudes that you're supposed to espouse, he's very candid about what he feels, and I think there's something to be admired.
- 5:02I mean, I'm sorry for the man's family, and one of my friends who's a veteran who's very much a gentleman said, Oh, all our president really had to say was just well, I'm sorry for Mr.
- 5:12Mueller's family and left it at that.
- 5:15That would have been a more polite way to make the point.
- 5:18But I personally found it, God forgive me.
- 5:23I found it kind of refreshing that Trump just I mean, if he doesn't feel real sympathy, if he doesn't really feel empathy, you know, he's not gonna BS.
- 5:33And I'll tell you what, there are a couple people in this on this planet that if I found out they had died, I wouldn't be sad, and not only that, I would be relieved for the world.
- 5:44So I mean, I think that's how he felt, and that's what he said, and you know, there's something kind of, you know.
- 5:51I mean, I I don't think he was you know, I guess maybe good isn't the right word, but I mean, I is it better to fake?
- 6:00I don't know, maybe better to say nothing at all, but at least you know, this president is not a faker.
- 6:06Well, that's just standard.
- 6:07They say that if you don't have anything nice to say about a person, once the person dies, it's best not to say anything at all.
- 6:13And we've come on here and we've talked about this before, and a lot of people will try to draw parallels between Charlie Kirk and how the right was outraged that they came out and they said that they're glad that he's dead, and you know, and people said it was in poor taste.
- 6:27I get it, and I said the same thing.
- 6:29If they want to say this, that's fine, but the Apple the horse cart is gonna circle back around, and lo and behold, it did.
- 6:36No, someone even said that maybe what Trump should have said was to the Democrats, I'm sorry for your loss.
- 6:42And maybe that would have appeased them.
- 6:46But you know, we see this constantly with them wishing for Trump's death, wanting Trump to die.
- 6:53And now when Trump is truthful, they don't like it.
- 6:57Like, oh my god, no, no, no, they want to be the judges, they want to be the arbitrators of you know, this is what could have been said, but I you put yourself in this man's shoes, and I think it's hard for people to do it.
- 7:11He's still human.
- 7:13And when you look at how they weaponized the government, the justice system to try and throw him in jail, take away his fortune, to steal his fortune after saying, Now, remember people.
- 7:27When he was running, they were saying that he wasn't a millionaire.
- 7:31And then all at once, he's a millionaire, and we want to take his money.
- 7:36Which one is it?
- 7:38And I don't think they were saying he's not a billionaire.
- 7:41Uh but it doesn't matter.
- 7:43They still say he had no money.
- 7:45Remember Rachel Matto and the tax returns.
- 7:48So which one, but which one is it?
- 7:51Billionaire millionaire, which one is it?
- 7:53Either he has money or he doesn't.
- 7:56Well, and then they tried to steal the money.
- 7:58You had Letitia James had him in court wanting him to pay all these excessive fines.
- 8:03You had judges knowing that this was wrong, but no one wanted to stand up and say, wait a minute, this is not how our justice system works.
- 8:11You just can't go in and just take all the person's money and then just random them a penniless.
- 8:17It doesn't work that way.
- 8:19But a lot of people, not understanding our justice system, were completely unaware of it.
- 8:24Well, first of all, it was wrong to do it.
- 8:27The charges were completely made up, trumped up charges.
- 8:31It has never been done before.
- 8:33And then for a judge to assess a value on a property that he knows nothing about, not even going to realtors to say what is the value of this.
- 8:43And we're just and we sat there and we watched this train wreck take place, and now all at once, Trump is supposed to get in the into the uh the marble uh ban and make nice and say, oh wow, yeah, this man tried to take me down, and I'm so sorry for his passing.
- 8:58It doesn't work, it doesn't work that way.
- 9:00Well, it does usually, but not with Trump.
- 9:03He does not play the game.
- 9:05He doesn't, you know, my my late father used to say, no matter how mean and nasty people were to each other in life, they all sit and cry at the funeral.
- 9:14And you know, sometimes there's something hypocritical and fake about it, and Trump doesn't do that.
- 9:21Well, one of the things that I pointed out, Heather, is generally what happens is that once a person dies, they'll give about a week or two, and they'll give them all these alkylades.
- 9:30But then after that, they'll start saying, But did you know this person did this?
- 9:33The same thing with Nixon.
- 9:35Once Nixon died, when Nixon died, before he died, he was evil.
- 9:39Once he died, oh, he he he he tried to do what was best for his country.
- 9:45Well, he really did, by the way.
- 9:46Well, he did totally demonized for his mistakes, but there were a lot of good things he did, absolutely.
- 9:52He was a week later president, yes.
- 9:55The media came out and they attacked him and say, Well, this is what he did, and he's a bad person.
- 10:00Whereas with Trump, Trump is just saying it right up front.
- 10:03Yeah.
- 10:04He's just going right at it.
- 10:05Now, I I want to say this to uh going to the making this a little religious here to my fellow Christians and to uh my Jewish brothers and sisters looking at the Bible at Proverbs, Proverbs 11 and 10 says when it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoice it.
- 10:25And when the wicked perish, there is shouting.
- 10:29Oh, that's that's powerful.
- 10:32That when the wicked perishes, you know, it's almost as if they're saying that people are exceedingly glad that the the evil is gone.
- 10:40And then there's another scripture and the Bible.
- 10:43I'm sure this is probably in the Torah as well, Proverbs 28 28, and it says.
- 10:54The old testament, when the wicked rise, men hide themselves.
- 10:58But when they perish, the righteous increase.
- 11:07Take it it, take it for what it is.
- 11:10This man could have easily stepped aside, but he decided to be political because the Democrats wanted him to.
- 11:19He carried their water trying to take Trump out.
- 11:25I mean, Hillary and you know, with the faking the dossier and the spying and the lying.
- 11:32I mean, he may not have been, he wasn't the architect of it.
- 11:35That's the only thing.
- 11:36I mean, I think he was stuck to be right.
- 11:38Yeah, but I mean, it's kind of like he made he was to my way of thinking, he was more the foot soldier, you know, as opposed to the architect of evil.
- 11:47I mean, he whoever came up with it was and continues to be spreading hate, and um, I think it's sick.
- 11:56You know, we've talked about this many times.
- 11:58I mean, yes, not everybody has to like Donald Trump, and they don't have to like his policies, but you know, or his personality, but this obsession with vilifying him.
- 12:09I mean, to me, it seems sick.
- 12:11It seems like it's getting in the way of constructive dialogue or any kind of focus on the issues and the complexities of got, you know, what we can do as citizens to help the country and help our fellow Americans.
- 12:27Um I just I mean, I listen, I hear myself, and I don't want to sound like I'm some sycophant and I worship everything Trump does.
- 12:35I mean, I I am a big supporter, but I mean, I recognize in myself that listen, I'm not perfect, and I, you know, I get fed up with the left and I demonize them a little bit.
- 12:48You know, but it's it's tough not to when you know when they're demonizing not only Trump, but everybody who supports him, and they've been doing that for so many years, as you know, in general, as a as a not saying everybody, but um I mean they want us to be, they they want us to be when they're out attacking us, we're supposed to smile.
- 13:11You look at what happened to the governor of Arkansas just recently, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she went to a restaurant, and you have the staff saying that you know, she's Don, we want you out of here.
- 13:20And we saw that throughout Trump's first term in office.
- 13:23People would go to restaurants where conservatives were eating, and they would they were extremely rude to them.
- 13:29Even had Maxine Warders to say that if you see someone, you surround them and you tell them that you're not welcome.
- 13:35Chuck Schumer said something similar.
- 13:38So they say all these bad things, and we're supposed to just sit back and take it, take the high ground while they're acting out.
- 13:46You look at what they're doing to us.
- 13:48Not only that, you look at what they're doing with the the save act, not wanting to pass the save act, and they keep saying that is going to impact blacks and women.
- 14:01And here's my response to that.
- 14:02First of all, it's like a low expectation of blacks that blacks can't go out, black and brown people can't go out and get their birth certificate.
- 14:09They can't go out and get ID.
- 14:11And if it is cumbersome on them, we've been talking about this for how long.
- 14:17We have an election that's coming up in November.
- 14:19What is it gonna hurt for you to start the process now?
- 14:23Right.
- 14:23Getting your documentation together.
- 14:25It's just excuse after excuse.
- 14:27And then they want to say, well, it's gonna impact women.
- 14:30Well, why are they bringing in the women?
- 14:31Because that's one of their largest voter blocks.
- 14:33You have the blacks, and then you have women.
- 14:36Well, they can't, well, why can't women get uh an ID?
- 14:38Well, because they change their names.
- 14:40Well, you have a large portion of women when they marry the ones that are marrying, because now liberal women are saying we're not gonna marry, we're not gonna have children.
- 14:49But the ones who do marry, many of them don't even take their husband's last name.
- 14:56It's like they keep their mate name.
- 14:58So what is the issue here?
- 15:01And this is what I wish Republicans would just break it down, just like for one.
- 15:06You know that we're voting in November.
- 15:07And if you're saying it's gonna be a hardship on you, why don't you start the process now?
- 15:11You could have started the process a year ago, getting your documents together to get an ID.
- 15:17Black people have to ride a plane, black people, black people, those who get government assistance, you have to have ID.
- 15:24You have to have an ID just about for everything.
- 15:27So what do you mean they can't get an ID?
- 15:29What do you mean that women are gonna find it difficult because they're changing their names?
- 15:33As I mentioned, many of them are getting married and they're not changing their names.
- 15:37So why all of these excuses?
- 15:39You have 89% of the population voters who say that we need voter ID.
- 15:46So why is it so cumbersome?
- 15:47Well, just to go out and get an idea.
- 15:49They just want they want people to have an easier time, shisting and voting twice, as well as the illegal aliens to vote.
- 15:57But I will say it can be a little cumbersome to, I mean, I know myself, I consider myself a person of somewhat above average intelligence, and I'm having a difficult time getting a real ID.
- 16:10I mean, but I think if, you know, I don't I agree with you.
- 16:12I don't think that's really their concern.
- 16:14Is I mean, how much government bureaucracy do they preside over and love, and I mean, that's you know, Democrats never met a government bureaucracy they didn't like.
- 16:24But I mean, I you know, I'm all for trying why I mean they're big on social programs.
- 16:29Why don't they you and I have said this before, why don't they create a social program to make it easier to help get the ID?
- 16:36Yeah, if you're really an American to help you, you know, so that it isn't so cumbersome to get your birth certificate, and it isn't, you know.
- 16:44I mean, I know myself, it was a real hassle to get my passport.
- 16:48I managed it not long ago, but it's like yeah, a several step process, and you have to wait.
- 16:55And I mean, they could we could stand to make this process streamlined and uh less horribly bureaucratic.
- 17:04So why don't they?
- 17:05That's that's a good point.
- 17:06Right, work on that.
- 17:07Say we're gonna do it and we're gonna work on making the process less cumbersome so that you can get the ID.
- 17:13I have my driver's license, I have my New York State ID, I also have my passport.
- 17:18I had all the supporting documents to get it.
- 17:20And I think it's you get the real ID.
- 17:23I got the real ID unbeknownst to me because when I when I first rolled it out, they said, hey, so I got it.
- 17:28So it wasn't.
- 17:30My driver's license.
- 17:31So it wasn't an issue.
- 17:34Because I guess with the time I was getting my last driver's license update, I don't think it is a real ID.
- 17:40So I have to go through this additional process and get I think a social security card or a birth certificate.
- 17:47I mean, it it is a little bit of a hassle.
- 17:50So well, but but but think about it.
- 17:51If you really anything worth having is worth working for, I have my social security card.
- 17:57I used to work for Social Security Administration years ago, so I knew the steps to take to get my social security card.
- 18:03Now online, you can get your social security card, you can get your birth certificate.
- 18:07Democrats just want to constantly have a an oppressed group that they want to say they can't get it.
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- 20:09We're back to the second half of the show that we're just talking about voter ID and why people should be able to get it.
- 20:16Well, Democrats are saying that they can't get it.
- 20:18I mean, they're always giving all these reasons why you can't get what you need to get.
- 20:25And then they'd like to create this bureaucracy.
- 20:27And as Heather mentioned, why don't they just create a process to streamline getting your ID?
- 20:33I mean, at one point it was very difficult to get your birth certificate.
- 20:37But you can go on to the Bureau of Bottle Statistics now, and you can get it within, I would say, within a day's time, your birth certificate, if you have the information, you know, when you were born, where, etc.
- 20:47etc.
- 20:48And because they're linking all these systems.
- 20:50Democrats just don't want to do it because they want to be able to allow dead people and people who don't belong here to vote.
- 20:59Even Chuck Schumer.
- 21:00Chuck Schumer and Senator Representative Warner from Florida got on the house floor and they even said it.
- 21:07Chuck Schumer said, Well, yeah, we do have some people who are voting that shouldn't be voting, but it's only a small amount.
- 21:13So the Warner said the exact same thing.
- 21:16But these are the same individuals who say that illegals aren't voting, people who aren't voting who aren't supposed to be voting, but then they let the cat out of the bag, and no one caught it.
- 21:26They just danced right over it.
- 21:29And these are the issues that we have, and that's the reason why it's something else, Heather, just from looking at the say back the bill that I wish Republicans would do, is that just streamline the bill, take out everything else, because embedded in that bill is them outlawing trans hospitals giving performing uh surgery on minors that's in the bill.
- 21:57So I'm like, take all that out.
- 21:58And there's a lot of other stuff.
- 21:59If you read the bill, you'll see what I'm talking about.
- 22:01Take all that out and just keep it simple.
- 22:05The safe act for voting.
- 22:07You have to have an ID.
- 22:10That's it.
- 22:10And then allow those who don't want it to stand on the house floor and debate or the Senate floor and tell the American people why they don't want it.
- 22:20Give the reasons because a lot of times when we put these bills up there, the average person is completely unaware that it's not just that.
- 22:27Now, that's the name of the bill, the safe act, but embedded in it are so many other things.
- 22:33And this is what people aren't aware of.
- 22:35They're thinking, oh no, it's just one thing.
- 22:37No, there are more things tacked on to that bill.
- 22:40And I think it was done by design, so that people would say, I don't know about this.
- 22:46So there are some Republicans, I mean some Democrats who are in favor of it, but then they're looking at the trans issue and they're saying, Nope, not gonna vote for it because of this.
- 22:55But that doesn't come out.
- 22:58And I think that they should just make this a clean bill, get this bill passed, and then as far as the other trans stuff, which is equally important, do not get me wrong.
- 23:08It's very important.
- 23:10Because we are pushing this trans ideology on our children, and it's dangerous.
- 23:18Kids who are 13 years old who are cutting off healthy body parts, and we read about the stories every day, or at least I do.
- 23:28But the mainstream media has chosen not to cover it.
- 23:33Why are they doing this?
- 23:34Why are they trying to deceive the American people?
- 23:38We've had on our show guests who have said this is extremely dangerous, that this might be a phase that these kids are going through.
- 23:47But once it's over, they will be okay.
- 23:50Why aren't we getting them the help that they need?
- 23:53Why don't Democrats say, well, let's get them the help?
- 23:56Once you become, if you're when you become 18 years old, if you still feel that way, that's fine.
- 24:00But you know what else?
- 24:02We shouldn't have to pay for it.
- 24:03The government shouldn't pay for it.
- 24:05And insurance companies shouldn't be forced to pay for it.
- 24:07It should be considered an elective surgery, just like plastic surgery.
- 24:12If we're going to allow force insurance companies to perform these surgeries, then they should be forced to perform plastic surgeries on individuals who say, Oh, I don't like my nose.
- 24:22Oh, I want to get rid of all the wrinkles.
- 24:24Oh, I want this.
- 24:25Otherwise, it's not there.
- 24:29But no one is stepping aside and sitting down and having the conversation, Heather, to look at, wait a minute, does this actually make sense?
- 24:39What is the difference between a gender surgery cutting up healthy body parts and me wanting to, let's say, have a BBL, a Brazilian butt lift, or breast augmentation.
- 24:50What is the difference?
- 24:54Well, I'll tell you, Rob, I mean, I myself recently, not too long ago, had a bad experience with something called Juvederm Ultra uh injections into my face.
- 25:06Um I can't prove this, but I believe it caused inflammation throughout my body.
- 25:13I had a series of these injections.
- 25:14These are the injections that give you bigger, you know, cheekbones, because that's one thing I always wanted to change.
- 25:21I have paid such a steep price for this.
- 25:24I was I had pain in my arms and hands.
- 25:27I had um uh all kinds of weird feelings of inflammation, um, pulsating in my body.
- 25:36This went on for quite a long time.
- 25:39My point is just as an adult, I did this, I made this foolish decision.
- 25:43Apparently, a tiny portion of people can have a reaction like this to this, excuse me, crap injecting in the face, okay.
- 25:53And you know, I I'm gonna say right here that this is what I believe happened.
- 25:57I had a neurologist tell me that's what happened, but I can't prove it.
- 26:01Okay, so this can fall under the realm of opinion.
- 26:05But my point is just this brought home to me in such a stark way, how precious our health is.
- 26:14And if you are so blessed as to have good health, I don't care who you are.
- 26:19I mean, to me, any unnecessary surgery for something like vanity, or even because you have a psychological feeling.
- 26:30I mean, I to me, I'm just saying to me, I think is absolutely nuts.
- 26:36And I would shudder to think of any child, anyone you know who's underage going through what I went through with this.
- 26:43I don't think cosmetic beauty procedures should be performed on underage people.
- 26:48I don't think this radical surgery that, as you said, amputates and augments and you know, going under putting healthy body parts under the knife is something to do to a child or a minor.
- 27:03I think it's it's unconscionable, and I think it's a bad mistake.
- 27:08I really do.
- 27:10Um, and I don't know what's happening.
- 27:12I mean, I think our country has succumbed to a kind of a madness over this.
- 27:17And I admit I'm not an expert on the subject, and maybe there is such a thing.
- 27:23As we've discussed, as you know, uh just gender dysphoria.
- 27:26Um, there's all kinds of things under the sun, and I'm not qualified to pronounce that such a thing doesn't exist, or that there has to be one way of handling it.
- 27:38I all I know though is that gone is gone, you know, whether you're talking about death or removing a body part.
- 27:46You know, these aren't things that are um revocable, these are irrevocable, and there's a reason that we don't encourage people to turn off the machine when things look uh bleak, but we're not sure that there's no hope, or um to cut off that body part because you don't like it, or you know, drastically, you know, you know, I mean, the point is that a lot of things heal and a lot of things change, and especially with young people.
- 28:23Young people recover and they gain confidence and a lot of the body is quite remarkable and the mind too.
- 28:31They we have these amazing machines that God gave us that uh, you know, the one thing we know is they're resilient and they change and minds change, but once you've made a change that's irrevocable, that's it.
- 28:47And I don't think that it does serve um the youth of this country well to have adults who don't have the guts to explain that to young people, and that doesn't not to patronize them and say, oh, you'll feel differently.
- 29:04Look, everyone has his or her own journey or their own journey, but life is long with luck, and you just shouldn't be doing things when you're underage that are going to change you in a way that you cannot um you can't then you can't you know you can never go back on.
- 29:28Right.
- 29:28Well, Heather, I appreciate you sharing that with us.
- 29:30Your story.
- 29:31I remember you telling us at one point that there were some issues that you were having.
- 29:35But I'm looking at you, and I'm sure some of our other listeners have seen you on our live show, and you look perfect, you don't need to change anything.
- 29:41You're looking well, a lot of a lot of times I feel that way.
- 29:45I'm like, look, you know what?
- 29:47I may not have cheekbones like um the girls on Fox News, but I'm I'm pretty enough.
- 29:54Um most of all I feel good, and that's what matters, that and being good, you know.
- 30:00Being uh having a life of purpose, having a conscience, having a heart, feeling hopefully good at least most of the time.
- 30:08I mean, those things I wouldn't trade for any cosmetic change, and I just would wish that the youth of our country um could learn that, you know, as young as possible, that to have health, to have you know, family, to have a sense of purpose in life, these are the kinds of blessings that that's what matters, that's what you'll take with you, you know, throughout your life, God willing, and into the next, and you know, you don't want to, you know, look at our our service members, our heroes, the warriors who had their limbs ripped off by the butcher Solomon, and you know, I mean, to me, that's to my way of thinking, that's just one of the hardest things.
- 30:51And I mean, to do that to yourself, um cut yourself up to conform to somebody else's idea, even your own idea about what you should be.
- 31:03That's just it's not wise.
- 31:05It's very foolish, and you know, and I wish we had more, like you said, people to talk through this with before they even consider it.
- 31:14But you have these parents who have been indoctrinated.
- 31:17Elon Musk has even talked about it, how when he went in with his son, and the doctors told him, would you rather have a dead son or a live son who's changing, you know, or trying to change his gender, and he failed for it only to do his own research.
- 31:31And that's the other thing.
- 31:32People aren't doing their research, they're going in and assuming that what these doctors are saying, it's true because they're the doctors, they're the experts, and they're supposed to do no harm, only to find out that a lot of this is like a money-making machine.
- 31:47And you look at the amount of money that has been made, and I'm sure that there are lobbyists who are on the hill who are lobbying for this, they're telling Democrats, oh no, no, we've got to do this, we've got to do this.
- 31:57And then those voices in the wilderness that are saying, stop.
- 32:00This is wrong.
- 32:02This is dangerous.
- 32:03I read uh, I think it was the other day that Elon Musk is helping this man, his wife wants to put their kid through this transgender surgery.
- 32:15And the the I mean, the kid is just like clueless to all this.
- 32:20And you have this wacky judge, you have a wacky judge.
- 32:24I'm just trying to remember the story from memory, who has removed the child from the dad's care and giving it to the mother.
- 32:30So he's okay with this.
- 32:31He wants the son to have the surgery.
- 32:33And so Elon Musk is stepping out, and he's gonna pay for the law, the lawyer fees and help this guy help to represent this guy.
- 32:40This is how evil this has become.
- 32:42This is the guy or the, I guess it doesn't matter which parent it is.
- 32:46Right, but the father, the father doesn't want it, and the mother, the judge gave the mother uh parental rights over the child.
- 32:53So the dad has nothing to say.
- 32:55And this is and and we see this happening quite often with the mother trying to foresee surgeries, and the father is saying no, no, no, and it's on these little boys.
- 33:06Not that it's not happening to girls, because it is.
- 33:08Yeah, it's actually more common with girls.
- 33:10I mean, more girls, let me get this right.
- 33:12More girls say they're boys, but I don't know if more girls are actually getting surgery.
- 33:17So the surgery.
- 33:18It's a bigger phenomenon that the girls want to be called boys than the other way around.
- 33:25But I don't think I could be wrong, but I I don't think most of those girls, I mean, it's turned into a huge epidemic among teenage girls, which doesn't surprise me for a couple different reasons, which I can get into, but that by the numbers, it's actually a lot more teenage girls are saying they're boys than boys who are saying they're girls.
- 33:46But in terms of who's actually taking hormones and getting the surgery, I I don't know.
- 33:51Um, I I think most of the girls who are saying this are just you know, kind of considering themselves boys or you know, asking to be it's almost like a social to me, a social contagion.
- 34:02Yeah, for sure and I think that if we allow this just to play out during those awkward years, those teenage years, they'll grow out of it.
- 34:10But what we're seeing happening is that parents are opting for this surgery as young as eight and nine.
- 34:18That's that's a which is extremely dangerous, right?
- 34:21It is abuse.
- 34:22And when you have judges who are on board with this, of course, your kid might say, Well, I think that I'm a little girl.
- 34:28You know, what if your kid comes and says I'm a cat?
- 34:31Uh, and you're gonna say, okay, we're gonna these this is bad parenting, and these parents need to be evaluated by a psychiatrist.
- 34:41And we need to have psychiatrists who aren't into politics who aren't pushing this because uh within the past decade or more, you've seen a lot of doctors who are in favor of this.
- 34:53And then when you look at their background, you'll see that they have a political slant.
- 34:58A lot of them have TDS.
- 35:01I was listening to a show on Fox, I think it was the Harris Faulkner show, and she had this psychologist, psychiatrist to come on, and he said that they had started identifying a symptom, TDS, that people actually have it.
- 35:16They can't rest, they can't focus.
- 35:18If you show them a picture of Trump, they go ballistic, they just go they're losing it.
- 35:24So how it's like, how did we get here?
- 35:26How do we get to this level of sickness that if you say a person's name, you become so just like completely disjointed and you're like screaming.
- 35:37Well, you know, it's kind of to me, it's a little bit like the mirror image of the opposite of what people were like with Hitler in terms of the total worship and you know, unquestioning loyalty and acquiescence to the Fuhrer.
- 35:53This is like the opposite.
- 35:55It's like people are, you know, in a lather of hate.
- 35:59And of course, they would probably say, Well, we are sick in our worship of Trump.
- 36:04And I admit that I I do tend to really like him, and sometimes I have to sort of say, but see, I I have something in my personality where I tend to be that way about all presidents.
- 36:14Like I have an automatic respect for the presidency.
- 36:16Right, so it's different.
- 36:17We're right, because we're somewhat different, but I I but I also have the self-awareness to know that that has to do with, you know, it is a certain um something in my personality that I tend I don't worship, but I tend to have a kind of automatic love.
- 36:33I think it has a lot to do with having loved and idolized my father a lot.
- 36:37And anyway, not to get into my whole psychology here.
- 36:40But I think that um it it helps to be self-aware, and you know, to you know, I let's put it this way a lot of these people are not in any kind of real good therapy.
- 36:51I mean, they may go to a therapist, but probably somebody who just parrots back to them.
- 36:56Exactly.
- 36:57The way I look at it, they're in an echo chamber, they don't have the self-awareness to know that they're they're um you know, they're venting, they're they're scapegoating Trump and his supporters, and there's a sick quality to it.
- 37:10I'm not saying that they're to the point that they would put us in concentration camps, but they want to know it's having it.
- 37:17I mean, it is it's yeah, I think a lot of a lot of it is obsessive, and it's like you said, they can't change the subject when they get going, and they don't most of them have the self-awareness to know that this is probably not this is exaggerated, this is out of proportion.
- 37:33Um I think that if they were to just to stop and look at the reality of it and look at wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense.
- 37:40This man is not bad when you look at how all the people on others a mature person would analyze it, you know, on a chance.
- 37:50But you look at the people who respected him before he became president, and then all at once they realized that he was evil makes no sense.
- 37:58Folks, you listen to After Dark of the America Outlaw Talk Radio Network, and my co-host tonight is Heather Robinson, a contributor of the New York Post, will be back by the final half of the show after this commercial break.
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- 39:46And just to put a button on what we talked about this the save act and getting it passed, and also opening up the government uh and funding uh the Department of Homeland Security, and we see all the long lines that are at the
- 40:00Airport, we're in the height of the sp of spring break, people are traveling.
- 40:04And why Democrats are refusing to open up the government is just beyond.
- 40:13Well, I I know why.
- 40:14So I'm not going to say it's beyond my comprehension because I do comprehend what they're doing.
- 40:18They're thinking that they're winning.
- 40:20But they're putting America in danger.
- 40:26You're not paying people who should be paid for two weeks.
- 40:31Government employees are going to miss their paychecks.
- 40:33Meanwhile, the Democrats are getting paid.
- 40:37Go figure.
- 40:38They shouldn't get paid either.
- 40:39Whenever they shut the government down, they shouldn't get paid.
- 40:42And I agree with John Fetterman.
- 40:43John Fetterman Heather has just like completely surprised me with his position and his thought process and him making sense.
- 40:51Because if you remember earlier here on After Dark, we were against him.
- 40:56We were for Dr.
- 40:56Oz.
- 40:57But John Fetterman has made a complete turnaround.
- 41:00He is the Democrat that Democrats should be.
- 41:06He's looking at the issues and what makes sense.
- 41:09So hats off to John Fetterman.
- 41:11I know that he's a Democrat.
- 41:13I know that he could easily flip and do something around the corner.
- 41:16But right now, he's on target.
- 41:20And he's saying, open up the government.
- 41:24This is ridiculous.
- 41:26We need to fund the Department of Homeland Security.
- 41:29He supports Mark Wing Mullen to be the new secretary of Department of Homeland Security.
- 41:36While Rand Paul is being really pissy about it and taking everything personal.
- 41:40And gosh, I don't know if you guys heard the exchange between Mark Wing Mullen Rand Paul, but for the most part, uh Rand Paul came after him and say, Well, you know, you said that I was a snake in the grass.
- 41:51And how could you say that?
- 41:52And are you going to apologize because you said and Mark Mark McMullan said, you know, if I if I have something to say to you, I'll say it in your face.
- 41:58And he said, but to be honest, he said, I have been on this heel, and I go around trying to bridge bridges, trying to uh, you know, work with individuals.
- 42:08You, on the other hand, it seems as if though you're constantly trying to go against the president and what he wants.
- 42:14And I have to admit, Rand Paul does seem to be that kind of person.
- 42:19It's like there's nothing, nothing that the president puts up that he will support.
- 42:23It seems as though he's always against it.
- 42:25Go ahead, Hugo.
- 42:26Well, maybe.
- 42:27I mean, I haven't followed so closely recently.
- 42:29But one thing about Rand Paul, I mean, I do think he's an important voice.
- 42:33He's he's very much a um he's a contrarian often.
- 42:38Oh, yes, he is.
- 42:40He has that civil liberties perspective, and I do think that he feels those principles very sincerely.
- 42:47And I'm trying to think of examples, but I know that he's been quite consistent about that.
- 42:52And I do think it's you know, we have our two-party system, which it serves um a certain function.
- 42:59Um, it's an organizing principle.
- 43:02But one thing that I personally sometimes appreciate is someone who can step outside the um, you know, outside the sort of knee-jerk thinking of either side, and and have a you know, it's hard to be a real independent and get elected in this country.
- 43:19And I, even though I disagree with him some of the time, I do think it's good that there's someone who has that perspective that's um that's unique in you know, in Congress.
- 43:31And so for that, I do think Rand Paul is uh an important voice myself.
- 43:35But uh, you know, and similarly, Fetterman has shown that he can think independently.
- 43:41Maybe it connects, you know, with we I used to sort of think it was not so great, although I didn't really care.
- 43:47But I mean, I I thought it wasn't the most respectful thing that he ran around in a sweatshirt and shorts everywhere.
- 43:52But now I see that maybe that's part of his personality and his charm, and that he he die he has that in common with President Trump.
- 44:02He doesn't pay a lot of heed to convention for convention's sake.
- 44:08He's very authentically who he is, and you know, he doesn't, I don't think try to offend people, but he's not he doesn't devote a lot of energy to trying to be inoffensive.
- 44:20He's more about here's what I believe, here's what is important to me and what I prioritize.
- 44:27I'm not gonna change for you.
- 44:30Which let's face it, politicians are usually big pleasers, and they spend a lot of time trying to moderate their their views to get ahead to get elected.
- 44:42So when somebody and Fetterman claims, I know he's said that he's for instance, he stood by Israel through all this horror and this war and the sad reality that Israel has to fight back, and sometimes civilians on the other side get killed.
- 45:00And I believe with all my heart that that's the last thing Israelis want, you know, but but they're fighting they're fighting people who who don't build shelters for their children, who provoke a war and then hide among their children.
- 45:15I mean, this is the reality, and my point is that you know, Fetterman, I think sees the big picture and hasn't let himself be uh he has let himself be vilified for standing for the right thing, and I think that the strength of character to do that maybe goes along with being someone who marches to the beat of his own drum and doesn't look just like everyone and dress just like everyone and sound just like everyone.
- 45:42So I don't know.
- 45:43I guess my bottom line is whether it's Rand Paul or uh Fetterman, I think having it having independent voices is very, very important.
- 45:52Oh, yeah, I agree with you, but I just think sometimes Rand Paul likes to grandstand.
- 45:56Now, that on Federman, I understand that he's extremely popular with the Democrats and Pennsylvania, not Democrats, but Republicans now in Pennsylvania.
- 46:05So it that says a lot because at one point they didn't like it.
- 46:08No, you mentioned the war.
- 46:10What are your thoughts?
- 46:11I don't know if you read this in the paper or not, that Iran launched a long-range missile toward Diego Garcia Island, which is in the ocean next to uh the UK, and to me, them demonstrated that they have the capabilities now.
- 46:29It didn't hit his target, but the fact that they have the capabilities to launch a long-range missile that close to me is indicative of what they were trying to do and will try to do.
- 46:42So for all the naysayers who are saying, Oh, there was no imminent threat, to me, this is an indication that there was an imminent threat that had to be stopped.
- 46:52Because if they were able to launch a lone-range missile, which is I'm hearing, which sits roughly 4,000 kilometers from Iran.
- 47:02Right, not to mention wars going on.
- 47:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 47:07So I hope you I hope the UK, I hope they're waking up and they realize this.
- 47:12Because there was a threat.
- 47:14So all those individuals saying, oh no, we Israel dragged us into this and they did this.
- 47:18It's like you don't have you don't know what they're looking at.
- 47:23The security that they're looking at.
- 47:25And this in itself, they've shown their hands.
- 47:29So this is indisputable of what else Iran could do and could have done had we not intervened.
- 47:38What are your thoughts, Heather?
- 47:39Yeah, I mean, agreed.
- 47:41I just think that as I've you know, probably been wasting a lot of time saying on Twitter.
- 47:48I mean, the other sad thing is how many Americans, hundreds, actually thousands, you know, if you can count uh Iran and its proxies have been deliberately murdered, maimed, mutilated, kidnapped by this vicious regime since 1979.
- 48:06Um, I actually find it very offensive when people say they were not a threat.
- 48:11Iran was not a threat.
- 48:12I mean, it's one thing to be against the war and say, you know, but but you know what?
- 48:17Have some intellectual honesty.
- 48:19I mean, if you're a pacifist, say, yes, they were threatening our people, but I still don't believe that war was justified because better we should let more of our people die, you know, get pot shots taken at them, get abducted and you know, brutalized and killed in their sleep and you know, kidnapped at a few hundred over the course of the next few years, then that we should kill too many of them.
- 48:49In that's that's or that we should risk, you know, uh uh, you know, a bigger conflagration.
- 48:55That's people's position who are against this.
- 48:57But to pretend, you know, they don't have the honesty to acknowledge all the murder and and kidnapping and viciousness this regime has done to America and to pretty much every other country's citizens in the world, of course, to Israel.
- 49:11I mean, and Israelis, it's like they don't, you know, the people who are against this war, that would be like me saying, oh, okay, I'm denying that there are any unintentional civilian casualties in this war.
- 49:24There is no such thing, and I'm just not gonna even mention it and say this is a war of pure justice and necessity, and nobody who's innocent on the other side is gonna get hurt, and we should all be a thousand percent rah-rah for it.
- 49:38You know, I mean, that's not honest.
- 49:39The truth is war is horrible and it breaks my heart.
- 49:43And I know there were a lot of innocent children killed not long ago, the schoolgirls.
- 49:48Now I know that their school was located next to um an IRGC facility, and I know that the enemy purposely does that.
- 50:00That because it doesn't care about its children.
- 50:03I'm not saying none of their parents cared.
- 50:04I'm just saying that their government doesn't care.
- 50:07And that's that's what's sick and evil about that government and why they're exporting terror around the world for since 1979.
- 50:15And one of the reasons I believe that on balance, tragic as war is, this is probably the right decision because if they get nuclear capability, they have no regard for life.
- 50:26And it could be a nuclear war around the world.
- 50:31And better case, you know, worst case scenario, that happens.
- 50:35Better case scenario, they just don't get nukes right away, but they just keep tormenting Americans and Israelis and every other country's citizens.
- 50:44And you know, I mean, it's the point is there's no good decision, but I think we should at least have the intellectual and and moral spiritual honesty to talk about both sides of the balance sheet.
- 50:58And um, you know, I think a lot of the the opposition to this war, uh, you know, some of it anyway, I mean, is is not honest, it's not principled.
- 51:09They're not being honest about, you know, to say that this was just these people weren't a threat, this regime was not a threat, is ignoring the 30,000 innocent Iranians who were just massacred and tortured by their own government, ignoring all these people who are living under the iron boot of this dictatorship, ignoring the Americans taken hostage in 1979, ignoring the 241 U.S.
- 51:32Marines killed as they slept in 1983, Cobar Towers, USS Cole, um, the bombing of that synagogue in our Buenos Aires uh October 7th, which was funded by Iran and killed a lot of Israelis, but a lot of Americans and Thai people and people from around the world, and that's just you know, a few mansions.
- 51:56I mean, there have been many, many, many more incidents of terrorism funded by this regime.
- 52:01Oh, our service members, hundreds proven to be killed by IEDs placed by Iran and thousands more dismembered, burned, you know, in Afghanistan in Iraq.
- 52:13I mean, Iran, it's now known was the the um the nexus of all of that, which was exported and you know, to Afghanistan and and Iraq to target our our troops.
- 52:26So I mean to say they weren't a threat is dismissing the suffering and the you know the pain and the premature death of those thousands of our own citizens.
- 52:36So I really I'm actually offended, you know, when people say that it's like, okay, if you're against the war because of the you know, collateral damage to civilians on the Iranian side, or because you just are principled and you just would rather be killed and have your family be killed than kill someone else, even in self-defense.
- 52:54I mean, if that's your position, take that position.
- 52:58Don't tell me they weren't a threat.
- 53:01That's my opinion.
- 53:03Yep.
- 53:03I agree with you wholeheartedly that to say that is just individuals who don't care who aren't paying attention and who aren't in tune.
- 53:11And as Adam Carolla said, just keep your opinions to yourself.
- 53:15I mean, they can have the opinion.
- 53:17I just don't I think that it's a that's that's a real coward.
- 53:21I mean you they're not there to say there was no threat is just to play pretend.
- 53:27I mean, that's like that would be like me saying, oh, there's nobody but terrorists ever getting killed on the other side in a war.
- 53:35I mean, it's not true.
- 53:38So, I mean, they can say that, but they this regime proved itself to be a threat over and over and over and over and over again.
- 53:46So essentially what they're saying is they would rather have this regime continue to be a threat to certainly to Israelis and to probably to Americans and people around the world for however long that goes on, um, and just let them continue to do international terrorism and to fund it and either let them get nuclear weapons and destroy the world, or wait, kick the can down the road, let them do some more terrorism, you know, for the next few years or for however many years, and then wait until they're stronger and like right on the brink of attaining nukes and try to catch that moment to then do something.
- 54:27I mean, that's the only, those are the only two other possibilities.
- 54:31Like, so I mean, I guess you could say that's what you're for, and that's what certainly that's what, you know, that's what we know that uh the Bushes did and Clinton did, and Obama did, and Biden did.
- 54:43They basically let these people terrorize the world for the past 50 years, you know, a little bit here, a little bit there.
- 54:51Even the Great Reagan did it.
- 54:53I got news for everybody.
- 54:55When they killed those Marines, Reagan didn't put them out of business, which I know all our listeners revere him, and I think he was a good president in a lot of ways, but I don't agree with that.
- 55:07I think Trump finally finally is putting a stop to this monstrous little puny arrogant evil regime.
- 55:18And I think it's way overdue, and somebody finally had to do it.
- 55:22And I don't know how any American, honestly, Rob, can't feel some relief and satisfaction in that.
- 55:30Even if, you know, you have your doubts or you feel bad for the civilians.
- 55:34I get it.
- 55:34But I mean, to me, that's like saying Nazi Germany, I mean, or Imperial Japan really weren't a threat.
- 55:42But I mean, look, there are leftists who will tell you that Japan was on the brink of surrender when America dropped the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
- 55:51I mean, there are revisionist historians who will tell you that.
- 55:54And the truth is that was brutal.
- 55:57I mean, how many children died?
- 55:58How many innocent children, you know, it's it's it's horrible it's horrible.
- 56:02No, are you with what you're saying?
- 56:04No, the reality is to sit and say, oh, the Japanese weren't a threat to us and the Germans weren't a threat to us.
- 56:10To me, that saying Iran wasn't a threat to us is maybe not absurd, but it almost I mean, it's how many, you know, say death to America and kill and game and murder Americans till these people get their heads out of their asses and say, oh, yeah, they were a threat, you know.
- 56:29Excuse me.
- 56:31No, you you've said a lot, and we're up against the time, so we're gonna have to leave it there.
- 56:36I'm glad you all join us tonight, and we will continue to continue the discussion.
- 56:40And I hope you will continue to listen.
- 56:42Listen to After Dark and the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
- 56:46Like host tonight's been Heather Robinson and contributed the New York Post, as we always say, God bless America, God bless Israel, and hopefully this conflict will end soon.
- 56:54And we will be victorious.
- 56:56Good night and be safe.