Latest / The Bad Moon's Orbit / Episode 18: Idoneth Deepkin

Transcript

Episode 18: Idoneth Deepkin · The Bad Moon's Orbit

• 0:34
  Welcome back everybody, to another episode of The Bad
• 0:37
  Moon's Orbit. I am, as always, your idol on of
• 0:41
  math plan Dalton Montgomery. And I'm Darian of Green Gables.
• 0:45
  Hell yeah. And we are back again.
• 0:48
  Today we're going to be talking more factions of the Grand
• 0:52
  Alliance of Order. We have talked about the
• 0:56
  Stormcast Eternals, arguably the leaders of the Grand Alliance of
• 0:59
  Order. Very cool, Yes, how we have
• 1:01
  talked about the daughters of Cain, who despite everything,
• 1:06
  are equally cool. Yep, equally cool and equally
• 1:09
  part of the Grand Alliance of Order.
• 1:11
  Incredibly so. Yep, we contain multitudes.
• 1:15
  We contain multitudes. Listen, Church of Murder is many
• 1:18
  things, but certainly not not ordered.
• 1:24
  Certainly doesn't want to see everything fall to chaos.
• 1:26
  Yep, and today we are spending a little bit more time with elves.
• 1:31
  We are going to be talking about the Idaneth Deepkin.
• 1:35
  Fish elves. Fish elves, we talked about them
• 1:38
  a little bit when we were talking about Hish, when we were
• 1:40
  talking about Techless and the souls rescued from Slanesh
• 1:45
  right? The Idaneth were the first batch
• 1:47
  of souls pulled from Slanesh. They were the most damaged by
• 1:50
  the time they had spent in Slanesh, and while the 1st, the
• 1:55
  first like Idaneth created, the ones created from those like
• 2:00
  original souls were fine, their children had a high chance of
• 2:06
  coming out with damaged souls. Crazy the implication.
• 2:12
  That was the thing that made them fear Tekla's retribution.
• 2:17
  Not even retribution. Like that's too strong of a word
• 2:20
  for what Tekla's felt towards them.
• 2:22
  Because they were not a thing that he was mad at.
• 2:27
  They were a thing he was disappointed in in the same way
• 2:30
  you might be disappointed at Clay on a Potter's wheel.
• 2:34
  And yeah, yeah. And so that is the circumstance
• 2:39
  that saw the idol, the idol, the idol on the Idanath retreat from
• 2:45
  Hish. They they crossed the realm
• 2:48
  gates into Olgu and hid in the dark places of the world and
• 2:51
  Olgu beneath the ocean waves, using there mastery of magic
• 2:56
  taught to them by Techless to close the waves off around
• 2:59
  themselves and survive out in the.
• 3:02
  Reverse Red Sea. Yep, the most hidden places of
• 3:05
  the world. You gotta hey the ocean.
• 3:08
  Scary as fuck. Scary as fuck.
• 3:10
  Scary Mariana Trench? No, thank you.
• 3:11
  Yep, thalassophobia is the fear of large bodies of water.
• 3:16
  Probably a warning for that for this episode.
• 3:19
  Now what do you call it when you're in a hotel pool and
• 3:23
  suddenly you think of the fact that the giant squid exists and
• 3:27
  you're just like, big Yikes, I'm in a hotel pool, but also some
• 3:32
  ancient part of my little reptile brain is like, you're in
• 3:36
  water, anything could happen. It's probably falls under
• 3:39
  philosophobia for being real. Glass shark is the most joke I
• 3:45
  know. When I heard that I'm like oh
• 3:48
  wow, I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only person that has
• 3:52
  felt the fear of the creature in the pool.
• 3:56
  Yep, again, hotel pool. Yep, not even the ocean.
• 4:00
  Hotel pools are also just their own.
• 4:04
  They are weird, right? Right.
• 4:07
  Yeah, yeah, they just have a a unique.
• 4:12
  Everything about them is wrong. To them, yeah, yeah, I want to
• 4:15
  use the word liminal, but I don't know if I'd be using it
• 4:17
  right. Here's the thing, I think
• 4:20
  liminal has become more of a vibe description that departs
• 4:24
  separate from its original or true definition.
• 4:28
  Right, that that feels right. But before we talk too much more
• 4:34
  about fish elves, let's have our segment on game mechanics.
• 4:39
  Yeah, we're back. Yeah, we're back.
• 4:42
  Darian, do you have 1 you would like to start us off with?
• 4:47
  Got another Loracana pack? Hell yeah.
• 4:48
  It's not a game mechanic thing, it's just the only thing I have
• 4:51
  to present. It's a game.
• 4:52
  As a right C new booster pack. Booster set just launched.
• 4:57
  Busted open one. I got not one, not 2, not 3, but
• 5:00
  four big Hero 6 cards. Hell yeah, I love Big Hero 6.
• 5:04
  Also John Silver as the ship's cook from treasure.
• 5:09
  Planet. Hell yeah.
• 5:10
  Pretty, pretty, pretty. Placed I'll I'll be pretentious
• 5:13
  and say opening packs is a mechanic of like trading card
• 5:16
  games like. Yeah, my brother Jared recently
• 5:20
  gifted me 120 individual cards because he kept buying the box
• 5:28
  sets that come with eight booster packs just so he could
• 5:32
  enjoy opening them, because he just really likes to open the
• 5:36
  cards, and he enjoys that and then seeing what's in there.
• 5:39
  But he doesn't want the cards. He doesn't collect Loracana
• 5:41
  cards. He's not interested in that.
• 5:44
  He just likes the experience of opening a pack so that's great
• 5:48
  because it literally tripled the size of my collection.
• 5:50
  Made me feel legit about this hobby.
• 5:52
  I literally bought a pack that I'm going to give to him to
• 5:56
  Christmas. The gift is him getting to open
• 5:59
  it. The cards are mine.
• 6:01
  The gift is him opening. What a gift.
• 6:02
  Yeah, it's what he wants. Hell yeah.
• 6:05
  It's so he's so jazzed that I collect these now so when he
• 6:08
  needs a dopamine hit he can justify buying a back to open
• 6:10
  because it's a gift for me. Perfect.
• 6:13
  We all win. We all win.
• 6:15
  Everybody wins. Hell yeah.
• 6:17
  What about, OK, another mechanic of a thing is when you're going
• 6:19
  to buy a booster pack and the set has different covers.
• 6:26
  It's all the same set, but one has Ezma on it who's pretty
• 6:30
  good, but the other one has Baymax on a boat with a floaty
• 6:35
  and you're like, I think I want the Baymax.
• 6:38
  We also say that as a mechanic. Hell yeah, absolutely,
• 6:42
  absolutely. You see, all the time.
• 6:44
  Like the, the YouTube algorithm knows that we're friends and
• 6:48
  that I play Magic the Gathering. And so I get a lot of
• 6:51
  recommendations for like short form content of people opening
• 6:54
  like booster packs. And that is a dedicated.
• 6:56
  Like there's at least one guy I've seen pretty frequently who
• 6:59
  will like go to conventions where they have like old sealed
• 7:02
  booster packs that are yeah. And they'll show, they'll like
• 7:05
  lay them out and he'll be like, OK, yeah, I got to pick the one
• 7:07
  with the, like, Raichu on it because that's my guy.
• 7:09
  And it's. My.
• 7:10
  Guy, that's absolutely, yeah. This household spent a lot of
• 7:14
  time watching booster pack opening videos.
• 7:16
  Pandemic that just. I just remembered that like 3
• 7:18
  years ago the YouTube algorithm was a lot of people opening.
• 7:21
  Pokémon Yeah, yeah, Crofit was a weird time for everybody.
• 7:26
  A weird. Time for everybody.
• 7:28
  Dalton, what about you? Yeah.
• 7:30
  I it's kind of a more broad thing, but I have been not to
• 7:34
  date this episode playing latest released Marvel game yeah Marvel
• 7:40
  he. Just been playing with it.
• 7:42
  Playing it. Hey, Jeff the shark.
• 7:44
  Right, that's. My guy, he was from the run of
• 7:46
  West Coast Avengers. Yeah that I love that got
• 7:49
  unjustly cancelled after like 6 issues.
• 7:53
  Fuck you, Marvel. The Essential Comic experience
• 7:57
  Good, good series get cancelled after six issues.
• 8:00
  And yeah, we still get. Yeah, America Chavez in it and
• 8:03
  Gwenpool was in it. Just a real are real
• 8:08
  unspotlighted faves need more attention.
• 8:11
  But I really like how Marvel rivals like as a game mechanic.
• 8:16
  I always love seeing game designers able to take existing
• 8:21
  thing about a character, like their lore and their personality
• 8:25
  and reflect that meaningfully in game mechanics.
• 8:28
  It's a big part of why I like Magic the Gathering, because
• 8:30
  they can put like rules text on a card that reflects who a
• 8:34
  person is. And I think Marvel Rivals has
• 8:36
  done a really good job of that as well.
• 8:37
  Just little stuff from like Loki, all his mechanics
• 8:43
  centering around him, creating illusions of himself and him,
• 8:48
  his ultimate ability letting him turn into someone else on the
• 8:52
  enemy team because very good. Real tight, yes.
• 8:57
  Really digging the. Design.
• 8:58
  There's a couple of designs I don't like, but it's just like
• 9:02
  there's you're never going to get a full set.
• 9:03
  Yeah, like I don't particularly like Wolverine's design in it.
• 9:06
  He is very he's. Very wide, yeah, and that's fine
• 9:10
  because he is supposed to be strong.
• 9:12
  But the the main reason I don't like it is OK, tiny, like I
• 9:16
  said, a mechanic I like, which is that they brought a lot of
• 9:18
  these characters to life in a way that makes sense for them.
• 9:21
  I love that Like Magneto's alt is Meteor M and he just like
• 9:25
  makes a big bundle of metal above himself and then throws it
• 9:27
  at a guy. But while he's doing that,
• 9:29
  anyone who shoots their bullets get pulled into it because.
• 9:33
  Magneto. He's Magneto?
• 9:35
  Yeah, his name. Yeah, Wanda's has to charge up
• 9:40
  for a long time. When it goes off, anyone near
• 9:42
  her just fucking dies which is extremely funny.
• 9:45
  So good. Right, I understand.
• 9:48
  Just the shark can just take out anyone on the field, including
• 9:52
  your own teammates. Fuck you.
• 9:53
  Also interrupts other people's alts.
• 9:54
  Yes, very. Good.
• 9:56
  He's just got a great control alt.
• 9:58
  What are the other fun? All of the heroes have team UPS,
• 10:00
  which I think is wonderful because some of them are lower
• 10:02
  things and some of them are just like, yeah, if these people
• 10:04
  weren't A-Team, this probably would work out.
• 10:06
  That's so good. Jeff and Rocket can both ride on
• 10:10
  Groot's shoulders. There's a couple of like, kind
• 10:14
  of weird ones where it's just like, OK, we're just trying to
• 10:16
  get somebody like this person to team up.
• 10:18
  Like the Punisher team up is with Rocket and Bucky, and it's
• 10:24
  just because they all like guns and like, OK, yeah, that's fine.
• 10:28
  You could have given Bucky A-Team up with, you know, Cap,
• 10:31
  but. Whatever, Bucky doesn't have a
• 10:32
  team up with Cap. Wait, that's crazy.
• 10:35
  Why would you do that? It's very all the characters
• 10:40
  only have. No, that's not even true.
• 10:41
  I was going to say all the characters only have one team
• 10:43
  up, but Hulk has 2, so that's not even true.
• 10:45
  Yeah, they're. Just saving it.
• 10:46
  They're going to roll out more. I'm sure, I'm sure they're going
• 10:48
  to change because all of them are called like season 0 team
• 10:51
  ups. And so I'm sure that's like
• 10:53
  testing ground. And then we'll have the like.
• 10:55
  Some of them will probably stay because like Hulk and
• 10:59
  Wolverine's team up is the fastball special where?
• 11:02
  Hulk can just pick up. Wolverine and throw him because
• 11:04
  yeah, like, obviously, yeah. I also love because welcome to
• 11:10
  our Marvel. I also love because every game
• 11:16
  that features the Hulk is a coward and they just have you
• 11:18
  play as the Hulk. I love the Marvel rivals.
• 11:21
  You always start the match as Banner.
• 11:23
  Like, you're running around as Bruce Banner and he's just got
• 11:28
  like a gun that shoots gamma radiation, OK?
• 11:32
  And your goal as Banner is just to do enough damage to get your
• 11:35
  alt to turn into the Hulk. That's very good.
• 11:39
  That's very good, yeah. Like every game where you can
• 11:43
  play as the Hulk should let you play as Banner so you get the
• 11:45
  contrast because. That's the thing of the.
• 11:47
  Character. Yeah, that's the whole thing,
• 11:50
  the. Whole as the.
• 11:51
  Whole thing, the one thing I'm going to criticize Marvel rivals
• 11:54
  for, and I think it's a valid criticism, is part of the reason
• 11:57
  I don't like Wolverine's design and I don't like Magneto's
• 12:00
  design is because neither is there like classic design, which
• 12:05
  is fine. Like I'm OK with the character
• 12:07
  not being there like classic design.
• 12:09
  I think it's really interesting actually when characters have
• 12:12
  like twist to and like plays off of like what they're normally
• 12:17
  look like. I think that's a really
• 12:18
  interesting thing to communicate something about a different
• 12:20
  version of a character. And I would be more chill with
• 12:23
  Wolverine and Magneto's designs in this game if you couldn't buy
• 12:27
  their original looks in the end game store for like $16.
• 12:31
  No. That's what it is.
• 12:32
  That's that's why it's like, OK, I do actually kind of like like
• 12:38
  bomber jacket Wolverine, like that's an interesting look.
• 12:43
  But you've made like the cowl and the yellow and black suit a
• 12:47
  like Deadpool and Wolverine tie in and I have to pay money for
• 12:51
  it if I wanted to look like comic Wolverine.
• 12:54
  And same thing with Magneto where his like the the helmet
• 12:58
  and the purple color scheme cost real money in the store.
• 13:02
  I'm looking, I've seen The Wolverine one, but I'm looking
• 13:05
  up Magneto Marvel. It's a cool design like I don't
• 13:09
  dislike. Well, this is.
• 13:11
  Kind of like a full metal Magneto thing.
• 13:13
  Yeah, but it's not how he. Yeah.
• 13:16
  And like I said, I wouldn't mind as much if you couldn't buy the
• 13:19
  original suit for Muddy. Can you do that with everybody
• 13:22
  or just these two? It's just this because a lot of
• 13:24
  people, I was gonna say, there's others who are like more or less
• 13:27
  similar, but their base design is more, yeah, close to their
• 13:32
  original design. Yeah, because like, you can also
• 13:35
  buy the Tom Holland suit for Spider Man.
• 13:38
  Charming, but spider man suit. But the original Spider Man suit
• 13:40
  is still just Spider Man. Yeah, he just looks like I've
• 13:43
  seen Spider Man, I've seen Venom, Yeah.
• 13:45
  I was going to say Venom looks exactly like Venom because he's
• 13:48
  Venom, but because he's. Venom.
• 13:51
  Hulk looks a little bit like Amadeus Cho.
• 13:53
  I think just because they're trying to give, because this
• 13:57
  universes Hulk is in tune with himself.
• 13:59
  He's not the big guy. He's like almost professor
• 14:03
  adjacent. So they tried to make him look a
• 14:05
  little bit less like Brute monstrous and a little bit more,
• 14:08
  which just makes him kind of look like Amadeus chose I.
• 14:11
  Didn't notice I saw the. Totally awesome characters.
• 14:13
  Like interacting and stuff, yeah.
• 14:15
  And and it's not Amadeus, but it it just kind.
• 14:17
  Of looks like his I love I love Penny Parker's design.
• 14:20
  Penny is great. She's super cute.
• 14:22
  Penny is my main currently because yeah, yeah, she's a
• 14:25
  defense hero. She sets like web traps and
• 14:27
  stuff and that's totally my playstyle.
• 14:29
  Yeah, it is absolutely unhinged to have two designs that are so
• 14:35
  distinctly unlike the original 1 and then offer you money.
• 14:38
  It's like you knew, and that sucks.
• 14:40
  Don't do that. Because like I said, a lot of
• 14:43
  other characters have like their tie in.
• 14:45
  Or do it for everybody. Yeah, I was going to say a lot
• 14:47
  of the characters have their like their other like viable
• 14:50
  skins are like specific versions of their costume from like the
• 14:53
  MCU, like Wanda's like costume that you can buy for her.
• 14:58
  Right out the gate is Multiverse of Madness Wanda.
• 15:02
  You know, as much as I hate that movie, it's a good gas outfit.
• 15:05
  It's a good costume. Hate that got that movie, but
• 15:07
  Bass Wanda looks like she does in the comics.
• 15:10
  And so it's like, yeah, it's not a huge jump.
• 15:12
  It's just like, oh, cool stylistic choice.
• 15:14
  Because I also like, yeah, like how she looks.
• 15:17
  In this movie, yeah, I like her design in Yeah, especially in
• 15:21
  Wanda Vision, yes, I really like that's what it is in Multiverse,
• 15:24
  really, yeah. Anyways.
• 15:28
  Are you doing that? Making a final.
• 15:30
  Cut. Probably some of it.
• 15:31
  Hey, The last couple episodes included most of our rants.
• 15:34
  You can take out my entire craziest tirade that really
• 15:37
  shaped the energy. How far are we in this episode?
• 15:39
  Oh. Damn.
• 15:40
  What are fish shelves to talk about?
• 15:42
  Fish shelves to talk about. So let's talk about fish
• 15:45
  shelves. Let's talk.
• 15:47
  About so at the top, I would like to say my opinion on fish
• 15:50
  shelves largely sympathetic. I feel bad for these poor
• 15:54
  fishies. Now, Dalton has indicated that
• 15:56
  my opinion is very likely to change dramatically over the
• 15:59
  course of this episode, which is why I wanted to state it out the
• 16:01
  front so you, dear listener, can enjoy this character arc with
• 16:04
  me. I think it's going to be more
• 16:07
  complicated than just a like, fall from grace in your eyes, I
• 16:11
  think. Is it going to be I will live in
• 16:13
  the place where the trees would eat you to I see the tree and
• 16:17
  say never mind I will never live there.
• 16:19
  I would rather live in the place where the trees will eat you and
• 16:21
  then the ark is Nope I saw what they look like.
• 16:25
  Maybe we're going to yeah, we're going to take a little journey
• 16:29
  down where it's wetter down by the sea.
• 16:36
  We had to we had to. So despite their attempting to
• 16:40
  like isolate themselves from techless, the Idanath don't stay
• 16:45
  like holy and shayish or not shayish Ulgu for long, they
• 16:50
  quickly gain like a mastery of ocean magics.
• 16:54
  They say what you will about the Idonet, they are still like
• 16:58
  nominally the children of techless.
• 17:01
  They are very skilled at magic. They're very good at organizing
• 17:05
  and kind of the like structural stuff that it takes to make like
• 17:09
  a functioning society. They're just living on the
• 17:12
  fringes of it and they have unique needs that they have to
• 17:17
  like fulfill to keep existing. Is the big one that there's a
• 17:22
  running thing that we're going to see with Idonet where we
• 17:26
  talked a little bit about Luminous and like how Luminous
• 17:29
  caused the Spire fall and drew like some ashy demons in through
• 17:32
  their like ambition and whatnot. We're going to see a running
• 17:34
  theme with the Idaneth, where the big difference between the
• 17:38
  Idneth and the Lumineth, both are even in like lore, both
• 17:42
  sometimes get called the children of techless.
• 17:45
  But where Lumineths were given every advantage in the world and
• 17:48
  it LED them to ruin, the Idneth have like nothing.
• 17:52
  They are starting from zero and but they are still approaching
• 17:57
  the world in a similar fashion. Interesting.
• 18:00
  Yeah. OK, so I'd quickly like I said,
• 18:05
  quickly spread out into the other realms that will sneak up
• 18:09
  from the ocean or find realm gates in the ocean that allow
• 18:13
  them to move between the different realms from OLGU.
• 18:15
  That's. Crazy.
• 18:17
  Just hang. Out on a beach on on somewhere
• 18:20
  else and then oh God, fish Elms. That's some crypted shit.
• 18:25
  Yeah. Yeah, like that's some Loch Ness
• 18:27
  Monster ass legends. There are just small beachside
• 18:32
  towns in. Where would there actually be a
• 18:35
  beachside town maybe? Go round.
• 18:38
  Guy Round. Right round my life, yeah.
• 18:40
  Absolutely. I was like thinking like, it's
• 18:44
  fine, it's fine now, everything is fine now we fix that.
• 18:46
  And then just sometimes got to watch.
• 18:48
  There's this old man with like an eye patch and a scraggly
• 18:51
  voice who just warns the local children of health officials.
• 18:54
  Don't go near the water. Thank you.
• 18:58
  A lot of Idaneth actually do end up in Guy Ran.
• 19:02
  Yeah that's why it's tough of my friend guy Ran being the realm
• 19:06
  of life helps to soothe like they're aching like damaged
• 19:10
  souls and so it comes to be seen as kind of like it's not their
• 19:16
  main realm. Most Idonet still identify with
• 19:18
  Olgu as kind of like their home plane.
• 19:21
  But a lot of Idonet houses like the two kind of biggest like
• 19:26
  clans of Idonet because it lets them operate a little bit more
• 19:30
  freely with that life magic flowing into them.
• 19:33
  OK. Yeah, enclave is what you call a
• 19:37
  like a group of idaneths. They're an idaneth.
• 19:39
  It's called not a school. Nope.
• 19:41
  Yeah, right. Or a pod.
• 19:43
  They have schools, but they a group of them is called an
• 19:47
  enclave. You'd.
• 19:48
  Find an enclave of Idaneth children in the school.
• 19:51
  Yes, before the Idaneth split, before they ran off, Techless
• 19:57
  was. Yeah, Techless was trying to.
• 20:00
  It's the same thing they did to the Luminous.
• 20:02
  Techless was basically trying to mold them into the elves of old.
• 20:05
  Techless just wanted his like own civilization back, Yes.
• 20:10
  Bad parenting. Yep.
• 20:12
  Yep, real bad parenting. Yep, I'm just going to make you
• 20:14
  me faces. Yeah, I want.
• 20:16
  I have this idea for what my family and my children are going
• 20:19
  to be. And you will be that way, yes.
• 20:22
  Teclis is a bad father. Teclis does not have like
• 20:25
  biological children, but the I nothing Lumina have not
• 20:28
  benefited greatly from Teclis. It's like people that do IVF for
• 20:34
  bad reasons, Yes, you're like, well, because I want to pick the
• 20:37
  gender and their IQ and all these things, and it's like a
• 20:40
  big yeah. You're right, right?
• 20:42
  We're tiptoeing a little bit around eugenics.
• 20:45
  Yeah. So.
• 20:49
  Techless would though. Techless does.
• 20:51
  Explicitly did, yeah. Yeah.
• 20:56
  So part of one of the things that the Ines learned from
• 20:58
  Techless that was just like a tidbit at the time, but that
• 21:01
  they like more embraced with their new life under the ocean,
• 21:05
  is Techless taught them of all of the old elven gods.
• 21:10
  OK, they're dead, but sure. Yeah, they're dead, but techless
• 21:13
  you. Are the elfing gods.
• 21:15
  Techless and Tyrion. Techless and Tyrion are
• 21:17
  definitely like the like Hishian elephant gods.
• 21:21
  We've also got Mullerian, but we don't know what he's doing.
• 21:24
  And now we have Marathi and we. Have.
• 21:26
  Marathi. We now have Marathi and kind of
• 21:30
  Valario, but she doesn't really think of herself as an elf
• 21:32
  anymore. But.
• 21:34
  Yeah, I also don't even encounter when I think of like
• 21:37
  of God, I do not think of Valario.
• 21:39
  Yeah, she didn't help with the retrieval of sonal souls from
• 21:42
  Slanesh specifically. That also might be.
• 21:44
  The reason she. Was not involved in that
• 21:46
  shenanigan. Well, she specifically sees the
• 21:51
  elves as a past season. She was like, this is not a
• 21:53
  thing that we should trench back up.
• 21:56
  Like this is the thing that was. I'm going to make my own.
• 21:58
  Yeah, she is literally the cycle of nature is always going
• 22:01
  forward. I I joke about like them texting
• 22:04
  each other and how can't answer this God damn phone, but like
• 22:08
  when Techlist was like, get in the band, like we're going to go
• 22:11
  capture Slanesh and get the elves back and the souls back.
• 22:15
  Just like she sees her phone and like text pops up from Techlist
• 22:18
  and she's like block, yeah, doesn't even read it.
• 22:20
  Was invited to that party. Did decline.
• 22:23
  Ilario was in the Elven God group group chat but she's had
• 22:26
  it muted for the last like 3 ages.
• 22:28
  Yeah, and. She was added, it never
• 22:30
  responded. There's literally scroll back
• 22:33
  where it's like Ariel was added by Techlist and it's like
• 22:36
  Techlist is like welcome to the chat and all the responses.
• 22:38
  She just didn't ever her little bubble of the last thing she
• 22:41
  saw. I still at the top of the chat
• 22:44
  like she saw the fact that she was at it and muted it.
• 22:49
  Mullerian keeps changing the name of the group chat, yes.
• 22:53
  Then Techlist keeps getting mad at him.
• 22:58
  Like, don't you have anything better to do?
• 22:59
  And the answer is no apparent I don't.
• 23:01
  Think so? Probably not.
• 23:03
  Floor wise, no, I have. No idea, but so one of the so
• 23:07
  the idaneth before they split off.
• 23:09
  They learn of all the old elven gods.
• 23:10
  They learn of Kane old God of murder.
• 23:14
  They learn of Daith, the elven God of craft works.
• 23:18
  They learn of the only two elven gods that come to the top of my
• 23:24
  brain are. The only ones, the only two that
• 23:26
  are relevant to this episode. They're not irrelevant to this.
• 23:28
  Episode. Oh damn.
• 23:29
  OK, the one that's relevant to this episode is they learn of
• 23:32
  Mathlon, who is the elven God of the sea.
• 23:35
  Yeah, yeah. Very relevant to this episode.
• 23:38
  He's almost like a footnote when Techlist is talking about him.
• 23:41
  Because like, the Hyos worshipped Mathlon, just as like
• 23:44
  a trade deity. Almost.
• 23:46
  Because like, the doughnuts are the doughnuts.
• 23:48
  The elves lived on a doughnut. That's not any less crazy.
• 23:54
  Actually, now that I say that, I was.
• 23:57
  So fascinated about how that swap could have happened.
• 24:01
  And you're right, it's no less crazy with your correction.
• 24:05
  Otha 1. The elven homeland is largely
• 24:07
  based on it's supposed to be both.
• 24:11
  What if England was huge and like synchronized with Atlantis
• 24:17
  is supposed to be kind of like the elven homeland?
• 24:19
  Otha 1 And so it is a big like ring of like mountains and plain
• 24:24
  lands in what would be our Atlantic Ocean.
• 24:27
  Yeah, but everyone calls it the donut.
• 24:29
  Yeah, you would. It's a doughnut.
• 24:31
  Yeah, it's a doughnut. You called the bagel and that's
• 24:34
  not better. No.
• 24:35
  So the doughnut it is. Yeah.
• 24:37
  So the Hyles worship to Mathlon as.
• 24:39
  Yeah, like they might pray to them to avoid storms, but they
• 24:42
  would pray to them for their ships to get where they need
• 24:44
  them to go. Because the elves mostly traded
• 24:46
  with the outside world. Yeah, like the elves have
• 24:50
  100,000 elves who can all make the perfect, like, tea or
• 24:54
  whatever because perfection's the high part of elven culture.
• 24:57
  But they know humans will pay through the nose for that shit.
• 25:00
  So that's. Yeah.
• 25:03
  But the Techlist teaches the elves about Mathlon, and for a
• 25:06
  long time, that's not really anything until the IMF are
• 25:10
  forced to flee into the ocean. And that kind of gets them like,
• 25:15
  into that position where they're like, well, we can't really pray
• 25:19
  to Techlist anymore, and this other guy's dead.
• 25:23
  But I don't know. There's something like there.
• 25:26
  Yeah, there's something there about like, we feel kind of
• 25:31
  abandoned. We feel kind of victims of the
• 25:33
  fate of like, what Slanesh did to the previous world.
• 25:36
  Yeah, there's something there with, like, worshipping a God
• 25:39
  who also suffered that fate. Yeah, right.
• 25:42
  Like hey, did he else know about the soul slanesh thing?
• 25:48
  It depends. Interesting.
• 25:49
  Not what this episode is about, but it occurred to me that I
• 25:51
  didn't know that. Yeah, continue.
• 25:53
  Yeah, it depends on the elf. Basically. high-ranking elves
• 25:57
  kind of eventually learn it. Anyone who knows about the
• 26:00
  Eideneth knows it from like the outside basically because they
• 26:03
  can kind of put two and two together and the Eideneth and
• 26:06
  the Eideneth know because it is like their condition basically
• 26:10
  that they have to deal with. I was just wondering if Teklas
• 26:12
  had like made-up some sort of cover story.
• 26:14
  No, he wanted them to be perfect.
• 26:19
  Ideneth in the album language means the secluded people.
• 26:23
  It's self-imposed title. They literally are just hiding.
• 26:28
  Like they're distant from the other elves and they're hiding a
• 26:32
  like consequence of the hand of Techlist that seemingly he is
• 26:37
  not interested in pursuing anymore.
• 26:38
  But that is a hard thing to, you know, It's a hard thing to
• 26:42
  trust. Yeah, but he could change his
• 26:44
  mind at any time, correct? He could suddenly decide he
• 26:46
  wants a new hobby. At any time correct?
• 26:49
  Something I thought was really interesting when I was reading
• 26:51
  up on the Ideneth and kind of their like societal layout and
• 26:55
  stuff. In addition to Mathlon, a lot of
• 26:57
  Idina still worship Techless as their God crazy.
• 27:00
  Like they're hiding from him. They like fear his kind of
• 27:04
  retribution. But a lot of Idina still see him
• 27:06
  as like their chief divinity. Like he brought them in the
• 27:10
  world, He gave them life. He taught them.
• 27:12
  Yeah, he checks all the boxes of being the gods.
• 27:15
  Yeah, he's quote UN quote wrathful, even though that's not
• 27:17
  really the like emotion he's approaching it from.
• 27:20
  Yeah, you. Can't even credit him with
• 27:22
  wrathful. Right, right.
• 27:24
  That would be a compliment at least care about something.
• 27:26
  There's definitely we're going to see a lot of I don't want to
• 27:30
  call it self loathing because I feel too strong, but like, yeah,
• 27:34
  like there's a mentality among some eyed Ness that like, yeah,
• 27:38
  they are imperfect and that's not a thing that they should shy
• 27:42
  away from. And the fact that Techlessod in
• 27:47
  them was not a fault of Techless and that they can try and do
• 27:50
  better. It's not a healthy mindset, mind
• 27:53
  you, but it is an easy one maybe to fall into when you are in the
• 27:58
  position that the Idneth are. Yeah, Idneth are very deeply
• 28:02
  tragic. I think it's the main, the main
• 28:05
  thing we're going to find in this episode.
• 28:08
  The next bullet point on my list, though, And we we've
• 28:10
  already talked about this a little bit with Marathi, but
• 28:12
  we're going to hammer it home again here with the Idenath.
• 28:16
  Idenath are also part of grand Alliance order.
• 28:18
  They like they don't want chaos to win any more than anyone
• 28:22
  does. Their society requires like
• 28:23
  structure. Those are kind of the two big.
• 28:26
  They don't directly work with like Storm cast and stuff
• 28:29
  basically ever, but they could because they're broadly on the
• 28:33
  same side. Yeah.
• 28:34
  Order does not mean good. No, it just means order.
• 28:38
  Yeah. And Idneth are gonna show us a
• 28:41
  little bit of that. Like so the Idneth are tragic
• 28:43
  but they definitely do bad shit. It's tragic not, but
• 28:48
  inexcusable. Yes, yeah.
• 28:51
  So in its ideal, right order is the structures that are required
• 28:56
  to create like a better quality of life, right?
• 28:58
  That's the idea behind like the storm cast and stuff.
• 29:00
  They're not showing up and implementing tyrannies.
• 29:03
  They're just trying to lay groundwork for society to like
• 29:05
  flourish. So the idaneth aren't on that
• 29:09
  end of the spectrum where it's like, OK, we are just trying to
• 29:13
  like implement some some ground rules for everyone to live
• 29:16
  peacefully. Idneth live in an extremely
• 29:19
  regimented strict society. It is kind of a consequence of
• 29:24
  survival is where we come at it from.
• 29:27
  Because Idneth, the vast majority of idneth somewhere
• 29:31
  approaching like 85% are born with damaged souls.
• 29:35
  Wait. What?
• 29:36
  Not all of them. Though not all of them.
• 29:38
  Some, yeah. Some are still born with their
• 29:40
  souls intact even in later generations.
• 29:43
  The concept of souls in regards to the INET and then all of AOS
• 29:51
  is just really getting close to the concept of hearts in.
• 29:55
  Key hearts where? It feels like it can mean
• 29:58
  whatever we need it to mean right now.
• 30:01
  Souls. It means a thing, but also it
• 30:06
  can kind of fluctuate. All the all the mechanics of how
• 30:11
  souls work aren't super well understood in like AOS as I
• 30:14
  said, but the hearts and. Kingdom.
• 30:16
  Hearts. Yep.
• 30:16
  But the thing we know is that like every person has a soul,
• 30:21
  when you die, your soul goes to Shayish and after residing in
• 30:25
  Shayish for an indeterminate amount of time, that could be
• 30:29
  millennia. It just kind of depends on the
• 30:31
  individual and depends on where they are.
• 30:33
  And your soul like deteriorates into base components and those
• 30:38
  base components rejoin like the firmament and are the base
• 30:43
  components for new souls to be created.
• 30:46
  So it's not reincarnation but when like two people have a kid,
• 30:52
  that kids soul is made from those raw materials of like
• 30:57
  older deteriorated souls, Yes. This is existential.
• 31:02
  I need. We need to.
• 31:02
  Move on. Yeah, I can't.
• 31:05
  I. Can't dwell on that for too
• 31:06
  long. Something about idaneth means
• 31:08
  that that process goes wrong more often than it goes right.
• 31:11
  That's the yes, that's the issue.
• 31:14
  So about 85% of all idaneth who are born are born with those
• 31:19
  damaged souls. And they need like when they are
• 31:23
  born, other souls like infuse into them for them to survive.
• 31:29
  Yep. And that has to happen
• 31:30
  immediately. Like that is you are born.
• 31:33
  And we have thankfully the IMF with damaged souls can have that
• 31:36
  need fulfilled by like lesser souls.
• 31:39
  So that is you are born and we are going to like sacrifice a
• 31:43
  big fish right now to keep you alive.
• 31:46
  Yeah, yeah. Or we're going to yeah sacrifice
• 31:50
  this like bore we've been keeping alive with water magic
• 31:55
  specifically for this purpose like we knew a big yeah like
• 31:59
  birthing was going to happen soon.
• 32:01
  Any Ideneth born with a damaged soul are called Namarty and
• 32:06
  Ideneth exists in a strict caste system to keep like function
• 32:13
  happening is at least how they justified to themselves.
• 32:16
  Namarty are the bottom of the cast.
• 32:17
  That's. Rude.
• 32:18
  Yeah, it's kind of the consequence of being born with a
• 32:22
  partial soul. Not directly, but that's how.
• 32:28
  Society is like built on the fact that this is a reality that
• 32:30
  sucks. Right.
• 32:32
  That you put these people at the bottom.
• 32:34
  Right Namardi are at the bottom. They're also the vast majority
• 32:37
  of. Course, that's why they're at
• 32:39
  the bottom. That's why they're at the
• 32:40
  bottom. If they were very rare, they
• 32:41
  probably end up getting to be revered as like some sort of
• 32:44
  like figurehead or like priesthood.
• 32:48
  But because they're the most, we have to put them at the bottom
• 32:52
  because we can't let the majority be in good condition.
• 32:55
  Otherwise the people at the top don't get to be comfortable.
• 32:59
  Namardi require souls to live. That's also the other thing,
• 33:03
  Nemardy require souls to live and they require lesser souls at
• 33:06
  birth, but they are the INF that need the souls that are gathered
• 33:10
  from raids like an adult. Nemardy needs souls from like
• 33:14
  greater beings right? Without like a somewhat steady
• 33:21
  supply of souls them already die, their soul just wastes
• 33:24
  their body away and that's why the have to raid basically.
• 33:30
  Where we at on this being an allegory for birth defects?
• 33:35
  Actually kind of far away. Yes, yeah.
• 33:38
  But not like an intentional, like not like that, but like, I
• 33:42
  don't know, it's a genetic component in here in the society
• 33:46
  that leaves individuals constantly needing some sort of
• 33:49
  external thing to allow them to just maintain survival.
• 33:54
  And then what is the cost of that survival?
• 33:59
  I think that is actually a like. It obviously gets hazy when the
• 34:02
  thing that, like, no, Marty need to live is like the deaths of
• 34:05
  other people. But yeah, there's definitely a
• 34:08
  component there too. You can make a compelling
• 34:10
  argument for it being allegorical for not even just
• 34:13
  like, birth defects, but like, like genetic disease or like
• 34:18
  being born with like, type 1 diabetes, right?
• 34:21
  Like needing insulin constantly to stay alive.
• 34:23
  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I was going to say I I my
• 34:27
  initial reaction about it, but not being a birth defect thing
• 34:30
  is that one of the weird quirks of Nemardy is that they are
• 34:34
  quote born physically perfect. Yeah, Marty have no yeah, Marty
• 34:43
  are like Steve Rogers post super solar soldier serum, like peak
• 34:48
  elf, which is wild, right? I don't know what part of having
• 34:52
  half a soul makes you your body more.
• 34:55
  Maybe that's it. Maybe their body just like
• 34:58
  develops better because they don't have soul weighing it down
• 35:01
  like I'm not sure. Dear listener, isn't that mean?
• 35:08
  That weird white creature with the fur that just.
• 35:13
  Yeah, just think of that. Physically perfect has one
• 35:20
  caveat, though, and it's because Namarty have because the gap in
• 35:28
  a Namarty soul, especially when they are born like beneath the
• 35:32
  waves and they're like societies propped up by tidal magic.
• 35:36
  Namardi are born with that empty part of their soul filled with
• 35:39
  tidal magic. What does that mean, Namardi?
• 35:43
  You. Have to explain but what it?
• 35:45
  Is Namardi are ocean creatures? Specifically, they are creatures
• 35:48
  of the deep ocean. All Namardi are.
• 35:51
  Yes. All Namardi are born physically
• 35:53
  perfect and completely blind because they don't need eyes in
• 35:58
  the dark places and the deep dark places.
• 36:00
  Of the world, so it's not a but physically perfect except for it
• 36:05
  is. They are physically perfect for
• 36:06
  the environment that they are surviving in.
• 36:08
  That is exactly what they need to.
• 36:09
  Be Yep, Namarty cannot see like the visible light spectrum, but
• 36:14
  Namarty can see souls. Spooky as fuck.
• 36:23
  Yeah Novarti operate in society by like navigating the world by
• 36:28
  their like ability to perceive souls around them.
• 36:31
  Both of like sentient creatures, like knowing who an individual
• 36:35
  is by being able to recognize their soul animals and sea
• 36:38
  creatures and stuff. And also the funniest
• 36:41
  implication in nature's Sigmar. There are multiple places that
• 36:45
  specify that, like physical structures constructed for
• 36:51
  Namardi to like operate independently, like without the
• 36:54
  help of like full sold INF are constructed explicitly out of
• 36:59
  coral so they can see it because it's alive, which does like I
• 37:03
  love the implication that coral has souls and they're alive.
• 37:08
  Yeah, like I just like that like convert.
• 37:12
  Like it's kind of a funny yeah, yeah.
• 37:15
  Like and so like Namardi, like housing swing.
• 37:19
  On this wild of being like, so upset and then truly delighted.
• 37:25
  That's kind of the Idon F experience, yeah.
• 37:29
  So like the Marty, like housing and stuff like that is always
• 37:32
  constructed out of coral so that they can meaningfully navigate
• 37:36
  it because they can see it. It's designed for.
• 37:38
  Them yeah, which is cool like it's an interesting adaption
• 37:42
  like this is one of the things I think is again it's interesting
• 37:46
  with the idon F where obviously caste system bad like rigid
• 37:53
  rigid structures of power that place you at the bottom of a
• 37:56
  power hierarchy based on how you were born bad.
• 37:59
  But the fact that the like full sold ID and F nevertheless have
• 38:06
  like gone to great lengths to because there's nothing stopping
• 38:11
  the full sold ID and F from just like leaving and just like doing
• 38:14
  their own society, letting the Namardi die at birth and just
• 38:17
  being like a small group. But.
• 38:20
  That's a yeah. They could just be like, now
• 38:23
  we're not going to put in the effort to sacrifice this big
• 38:25
  fish. Yeah, and like all the raids we
• 38:28
  have to do to like sustain, like the Namardian stuff.
• 38:32
  But they are. And like, it's interesting it,
• 38:35
  it speaks to a weird, I I think compulsion.
• 38:39
  What are they getting out of it if they have a caste system that
• 38:43
  automatically puts these individuals at the bottom as if
• 38:46
  they are less valuable? This is what a caste system is.
• 38:51
  Then putting this time, energy and resource into them would
• 38:55
  only be because folks in the higher caste get something
• 38:59
  directly from the Namari Namardi Namari existing.
• 39:05
  It's. Not to be cynical, no, you're
• 39:07
  great. What shitty thing are they
• 39:08
  getting out of this? There is definitely an like, I'm
• 39:12
  not going to pretend like there's not an element of power.
• 39:14
  Like obviously the Normardi being the bottom of a cast means
• 39:16
  that everybody else is above them in the cast.
• 39:19
  But I think a lot of it is genuinely ideological.
• 39:22
  Like, I think there is genuinely just a pervasive ideological
• 39:27
  bent amongst the IMF as a whole that the Normardi are still
• 39:30
  their people and it's important to like, help and protect and
• 39:36
  care for them as they would anyone else.
• 39:39
  And that's like, kind of hard to square right with, like the cast
• 39:43
  thing. Yeah.
• 39:44
  Yeah. Because don't have that element,
• 39:46
  and everything else is like, all right, yeah, that's where the
• 39:48
  society is structured. Right.
• 39:50
  It's interesting and like I said, it speaks to who put it.
• 39:53
  In the cast system they get it from checklist.
• 39:56
  A little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they kind of styled
• 39:59
  themselves off of like traditional high elephant
• 40:01
  structures, which didn't have a cast system, but it did have,
• 40:05
  well, it kind of had a light cast system because it had a
• 40:06
  cast. System.
• 40:07
  It's diet. It had a nobility system, which
• 40:10
  is just a cast system in nicer clothes.
• 40:12
  Yes, yeah, yeah. It's a cast system at a costume
• 40:15
  party. Yeah, yeah.
• 40:19
  So we've talked a little bit about the Namardi and we're
• 40:20
  going to talk more about the Namardi, but just laying out our
• 40:23
  cast here real quick. There are two other levels to
• 40:28
  the cast. There are just above the, well,
• 40:31
  way of the Playbill and see the cast.
• 40:33
  Yeah, yeah. Way above the Namardi, but not
• 40:36
  at the top of the cast are the Isharan, Isharan.
• 40:40
  Isharan is. That's spelled bad, too.
• 40:43
  Is that too bad? ISHARANN Isharin.
• 40:48
  All right, that does that does spell like it sounds.
• 40:52
  Yeah, OK, Isharin are born with full souls.
• 40:55
  OK, so they're not in the Marty, but they're still.
• 40:58
  Are they pre super soldier serum Steve Rogers?
• 41:01
  Yeah, they're basically normal elves.
• 41:03
  They're normal by the standards of elves.
• 41:05
  Standard ELF. Yeah, the thing.
• 41:08
  Is normal souls standard elf aesthetic?
• 41:10
  This is your basic model ELF. Yeah, they're still I'd enough.
• 41:13
  So like they can breathe underwater and they can swim
• 41:16
  very well just as a like consequence of being Idoneth
• 41:19
  they have. Like web?
• 41:20
  How fishy are the idoneth? A little fishy.
• 41:22
  They have webbed fingers and toes.
• 41:26
  Almost all Idoneth models aren't wearing shoes for that reason.
• 41:28
  Because you can't swim in shoes. No, you can't swim in shoes.
• 41:31
  Crazy. What's what kind of monster?
• 41:34
  Full sole Idoneth are less fishy than the Marty because there's
• 41:38
  not a gap in their soul for Tide magic to get into.
• 41:41
  Yeah, that's the that's the kicker.
• 41:44
  So Isharan, the thing that sets a Sharon apart?
• 41:47
  They're born with full souls, and at birth or slightly
• 41:52
  thereafter, they have some affinity for magic.
• 41:55
  Magical affinity is something that anyone can be born with.
• 41:58
  It seems to be like a part of your soul on some level.
• 42:00
  Anyone can learn magic, but some people are just going to be
• 42:04
  better at it. Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:07
  It's basically just like natural talent.
• 42:10
  And they said people just like weirdly good at the piano right
• 42:13
  from the. Jump.
• 42:15
  But anyone can learn how to be like excellent at it with time
• 42:19
  and effort. Correct, the iden F are living
• 42:22
  under like a clock though and they're living of like needing
• 42:26
  to collect souls and stuff and they're living under harsh
• 42:28
  conditions so they don't have time for anyone can like work
• 42:32
  hard to become a wizard if they want to.
• 42:34
  It's if you are bored with innate talent for it.
• 42:36
  Congratulations, you are a Sharon now.
• 42:39
  You don't get a say in the match.
• 42:40
  This is the cashier. Yes, Isharan are born with an
• 42:43
  innate talent for magic. They are trained as Wizards.
• 42:47
  Basically from birth they are to shift off to their own,
• 42:50
  basically boarding schools. And it's fish wizard school and
• 42:54
  inside the classroom in the school you will find enclave of
• 42:57
  fish Wizards. Yep, Isharan again.
• 43:01
  We see like a weird consequence of the caste system here because
• 43:03
  ash isharan are not the highest rung of the caste system but
• 43:09
  they are de facto the most important people for idness
• 43:14
  society to work because ishar and are trained in two schools
• 43:19
  of magic. They are trained in tidal magic,
• 43:21
  which is everything to do with it's both.
• 43:25
  Tidal magic as like a word. Right.
• 43:27
  It's very good. It's very good, says.
• 43:29
  Exactly what it's about. Right.
• 43:31
  That's everything from like keeping strong currents from
• 43:33
  like destroying buildings or like just making other parts of
• 43:37
  the sea like calmer so that people can move through it to
• 43:40
  like constructing buildings with tidal magic.
• 43:44
  And the really important one Samisharan are trained in soul
• 43:48
  magic. There it is.
• 43:49
  Because, yeah, that's, that's the ball game.
• 43:55
  Yeah, that's the whole ball game, fam.
• 43:58
  Like, And so the Asharan are essential for both like a daily
• 44:04
  living and those like, raids, like the Asharan are the ones
• 44:09
  who scout out or like big population centers to raid for
• 44:12
  souls. They're the ones who do the
• 44:13
  actual extracting of souls in combat, but they're not the top
• 44:18
  of the cast. No, tell me who?
• 44:20
  Tell me what useless sea slug is at the top of the cast.
• 44:24
  Not to insult sea slugs, they are usually stunning.
• 44:29
  These guys win the My award for most on the Nose name in Age of
• 44:34
  Sigmar by the way, because the top of the cast are the
• 44:38
  Achelians, which is one pronunciation off from being the
• 44:44
  Achelian fish. OK.
• 44:48
  I know there's a whole have kind of a vaguely Greek aesthetic.
• 44:51
  I can see that. Yeah, they got kind of the
• 44:54
  helmets. And like I said, they're led by
• 44:55
  the Achillians. So to their credit the
• 45:00
  Achillians are Achillians basically land almost on a like
• 45:05
  historical Spartan like area where it is expected that
• 45:10
  Achillians are the raid leaders where Sharon are removed and top
• 45:16
  magic very early. Achelians start their military
• 45:19
  training basically immediately. All Achelians are drafted into
• 45:24
  the Ida death military immediately.
• 45:26
  Not the elves that are essentially super soldier
• 45:29
  perfect. A lot of Namardi also serve in
• 45:32
  the military, but you don't have to as a Namardi.
• 45:34
  That's the difference. OK, Yeah.
• 45:37
  Achalians have to serve in the military.
• 45:38
  And what makes one an Achalian? You're born with a full soul.
• 45:42
  You're born with a full soul and no affinity for magic.
• 45:44
  What? Yeah.
• 45:46
  OK, OK, I didn't realize that. I thought all of them a full
• 45:50
  soul of video. Yep, Achalians are just standard
• 45:55
  elves. They're Idineath, so they're
• 45:57
  still like they can breathe underwater, they can swim well,
• 45:59
  but they are just baseline elves.
• 46:03
  And are there the fewest of them?
• 46:05
  Yes, so. Well sorry is Sharon or the
• 46:08
  smallest cast because it's just a Kellians who are also good at
• 46:12
  magic. OK, that's what.
• 46:13
  OK. Yeah, but a Kellians are the
• 46:15
  second smallest cash cast. It's probably like A5 percenter
• 46:19
  A Sharon 10 percenter a Kellians 85 percenter.
• 46:22
  No, Marty. This is stupid.
• 46:24
  Not as a story Lord thing. This is very fun and interesting
• 46:30
  and I'm having a good their society.
• 46:34
  They live in a society. They do.
• 46:36
  They certainly do. It's vanished beneath the waves
• 46:42
  and perhaps should stay there. A Kellian R nobility.
• 46:48
  They are trained in military affairs, but they are not
• 46:51
  trained in like the like here's how you hold the sword.
• 46:55
  Here's how you shoot a bow. They are trained in here's
• 46:59
  tactics. Here's how you do a pincer
• 47:01
  maneuver. Here's how you ride properly.
• 47:04
  Because I literally the English word knight is a derivation of
• 47:08
  the French word for man on horse, right?
• 47:11
  Like, that is the defining feature of like, nobility is
• 47:15
  like being able to ride a Kelly and exclusively reserve the
• 47:19
  right to ride sea creatures into battle, for example.
• 47:22
  That's cool. Yeah, that's pretty.
• 47:25
  Cool, what a mood. Yeah.
• 47:26
  The reason the Killians are like, forced, drafted into the
• 47:29
  military is because they are its leaders.
• 47:32
  A Killians are taught tactics. A Killians are taught to be
• 47:34
  excellent generals. And when their time in the
• 47:35
  military is done, a Killians retire into statecraft, into
• 47:39
  being council members and leaders and kings, depending on.
• 47:43
  It's very Roman. Yeah.
• 47:44
  It's very Roman. It's very Greek.
• 47:46
  Yeah. Very.
• 47:47
  Yeah, like I said, that's kind of the Spartan mold that they're
• 47:49
  fitting into as well, right? Every Spartan man was in the
• 47:53
  military until they were 35 and then they could retire into
• 47:56
  being a council member or whatever.
• 47:58
  Crazy. I mean, great.
• 47:59
  Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Wild.
• 48:01
  Yep. Oh my God that dude is riding on
• 48:05
  a sea Unicorn. So yeah, our first image that is
• 48:10
  an Akelian, he is riding on AI, don't remember what it's called.
• 48:15
  No, that's the one thing I want to know about.
• 48:17
  It's a. Big horned seahorse.
• 48:19
  I can find it. I can find it super fast.
• 48:22
  It's got claws. Deep mare.
• 48:27
  Nice. It's called the deep mare.
• 48:28
  Yep, you can see one Yeah writing upon Deepmare.
• 48:31
  Deepmare specifically are the steeds of nobility.
• 48:34
  Like the highest ranking nobility.
• 48:36
  So that person is an Achillian King or Achillian Queen.
• 48:39
  Looks pretty noble, you can see it.
• 48:41
  The next picture in our slideshow is just like a group
• 48:45
  of Achillian Knights riding riding their eels into battle.
• 48:52
  More scar eels are what those are called.
• 48:55
  Those ones, I know they are electric.
• 48:58
  Yeah, they. Are of course, they are the
• 49:01
  next. It'd be a bummer if they
• 49:02
  weren't. Electric, right?
• 49:04
  The next one is our Isharan cast.
• 49:07
  Yep. So the Isharan cast has a bunch
• 49:10
  of different like sub specializations of magic in it,
• 49:13
  even amongst like tide and souls.
• 49:16
  So you have your the guy in front there with like a little
• 49:20
  Lantern hanging off of his helmet.
• 49:23
  Stupid helmet, go on. That is an Achelian soul render.
• 49:27
  Or he is an Isharan soul render. He is on the front line of
• 49:31
  battles, snatching the souls of dead enemy combatants.
• 49:35
  Yep, and also snatching the souls of Idaneth who die and
• 49:41
  putting them back. Oh my God, just no.
• 49:45
  It doesn't always work, but yeah, there's a pretty good
• 49:47
  chance if you take a lethal wound in a fight as a knight in
• 49:50
  death a a Killian Soul render might just grab it and shove it
• 49:55
  back into your body to keep you going.
• 49:56
  Yeah, not yet. What do we say to the God of
• 49:59
  God? Yeah, Yep, the gal on the left
• 50:03
  there also wearing a stupid helmet.
• 50:05
  Yes, she's an elf. She has to as an achillion
• 50:12
  tidecaster so specialized in tide magics.
• 50:15
  When Ideneth raid on the land, tidecasters come with them to
• 50:20
  project the Aether C, which is come again the Aether C
• 50:26
  Fantastic. Yep, Ideneth have discovered a
• 50:31
  type of magic. It this is like notable.
• 50:37
  Yes, I know they're notable in that they're one of the few like
• 50:41
  groups who are doing kind of like active magical research,
• 50:44
  like a lot of other groups just kind of fall back into magics
• 50:48
  that they knew in the like beforehand.
• 50:50
  But basically all of this like tidal magic and stuff is things
• 50:53
  that the invented to like facilitate their way of life,
• 50:57
  right. It's very, it's really
• 50:59
  interesting, but the aether C is a thing that tide casters just
• 51:03
  like project around themselves that lets idaneth function on
• 51:08
  land as if they were still underwater.
• 51:10
  That's pretty cool. Yeah, right.
• 51:12
  Idaneth don't charge you, they swim directly at you through the
• 51:15
  air like in. A cool.
• 51:18
  Way yeah, the guy with the brassiere on the right is a
• 51:26
  Isharan soul guide, so he's he. Looks like a vampire.
• 51:31
  A little bit, yeah. He's mapping out where souls can
• 51:34
  be found, like where the biggest groups are guiding people
• 51:38
  towards them. He's like the ship.
• 51:39
  He's like the navigator when raids go out.
• 51:42
  And then the guy in the back we're going to talk about later.
• 51:45
  That's actually a like famous face the.
• 51:48
  Dude with the octopus. I think his name is Low Turn.
• 51:51
  I've got in my notes here Low Tan.
• 51:54
  He's Warden of the Soul Ledgers, which is a good title.
• 51:58
  And then the next picture is our Nemardy, yeah.
• 52:06
  Yeah, they are extra spooky. Yep.
• 52:10
  Just like they have eyes where eyes would be, but there'd be no
• 52:15
  eyes. Yeah, not even empty socket.
• 52:17
  I was gonna say they have the skin.
• 52:20
  Over where I would be. They got the brow brow bones.
• 52:23
  It is my cat, she has but one eye.
• 52:27
  You can see so unlike Wow, the quote UN quote like noble forms
• 52:33
  of war are reserved for Italians.
• 52:35
  Italians are trained in like mounted combat and kind of like
• 52:40
  a larger scale tactics. Namardi are plentiful and they
• 52:44
  are skilled enough that they don't like they don't receive
• 52:48
  the same kind of specialized training.
• 52:50
  So they are derisively it's referred to their derisively
• 52:55
  trained in quote UN quote peasant warfare.
• 52:58
  Just you are strong from being who you are.
• 53:02
  We're going to give you like a glave or a spear, a weapon that
• 53:06
  you don't need a ton of training to use, and we're going to send
• 53:09
  your mass numbers at the enemy. God it.
• 53:11
  Seems like a waste for something that is baseline really built to
• 53:15
  be a warrior. Like he's stronger, tougher,
• 53:22
  more athletic. Again, I'm just assuming basing
• 53:24
  off of the Steve Rogers super Soldier server comparison.
• 53:29
  You train these fools up like I guess why are we already doing a
• 53:34
  bunch of resources? Like yeah they're boy, but they
• 53:35
  can see the other souls so they can definitely like target the
• 53:40
  enemy. This seems like someone just
• 53:41
  doesn't want to try. It's kind of like I said, we see
• 53:45
  an weird intersection of like we don't want to train Marty
• 53:50
  because like they might die from not getting like access to
• 53:53
  souls. They don't have that normal
• 53:55
  Alvin longevity because of their damaged souls.
• 53:57
  So you yeah, that's kind of the and you can see.
• 54:02
  That. Cast thing only.
• 54:05
  To continue to use you in warfare.
• 54:08
  Congratulations, you found the thing right?
• 54:11
  Trying to find this thing I'm. Like where is the thing?
• 54:14
  This is a system that self perpetuates under the guise of
• 54:19
  like we are preserving and continuing our like society.
• 54:25
  Like you could try and do something else, but you're
• 54:29
  already doing this. The only reason they build the
• 54:32
  Coral houses is so they don't have to continue to invest
• 54:36
  energy and resources into caring for the Marty when they are not
• 54:40
  actively on the battlefield. You got it.
• 54:45
  I was very. You could kill them.
• 54:47
  I was very specific in saying the Namardi houses are built out
• 54:52
  of coral. Yeah.
• 54:53
  Yeah, The Asharan houses aren't, of course, so that it's harder
• 54:58
  for Namardi to navigate them. Because they know they wouldn't
• 55:02
  stand a fucking chance. We team up the Namardi.
• 55:05
  We team up the Magic losers. Because why do these fucking
• 55:08
  fools going to be in charge? No, the Wizards and the scary
• 55:12
  deep sea fish elves. It's like this line from Thud by
• 55:19
  Terry Pratchett where Commander Samuel, Yeah, Commander Samuel
• 55:23
  Vines is like, I don't really like chess.
• 55:26
  I don't get why if the pawns from both sides just worked
• 55:30
  together, they could overthrow the king.
• 55:32
  In like this whole board could be a democracy and this.
• 55:35
  Whole board could be democracy. Yeah, well, like I said, it's
• 55:39
  kind of the unfortunate thing of like suppressed classes
• 55:42
  throughout history is like, yeah, you're right.
• 55:44
  The Namarty, like even with all of the little like institutional
• 55:49
  things that the Isharan and the Akalian's have put in place, the
• 55:53
  Namarty probably could rise up and successfully overthrow them.
• 55:56
  And then who's going to organize the next soul raid?
• 55:59
  They will. That's why you keep the Wizards.
• 56:02
  They can't see. They can see souls, but they
• 56:06
  can't see maps. They can't see materials to
• 56:09
  forge weapons. You're getting there.
• 56:12
  No, OK. We in humanity, folks who have,
• 56:17
  do do not have visual sight, are able to navigate The world is
• 56:21
  not built for them, but they are able to.
• 56:23
  They have just been told you would be lost without us.
• 56:26
  They're perfectly capable of creating their own ways around
• 56:30
  it. They know this, they don't know
• 56:34
  this. They've been that's also we are
• 56:36
  imperfect and deserve to suffer because techless was the right
• 56:39
  thing comes from. I was going to say then the
• 56:41
  Marty feel that intensely, but the rest of the item that do and
• 56:44
  feel that as well. It's like I said, it is a self
• 56:48
  perpetuating negative system that exists basically just to
• 56:52
  keep itself existing. And that is the tragic thing of
• 56:56
  the Idanath is that because there are almost certainly
• 57:00
  Achillians and like Isharn, who thinks that this also is the
• 57:04
  best possible system, who do genuinely feel for the Nemardy
• 57:08
  and are just trying to help them and can't see past like trying
• 57:12
  to build something better. Yeah, because it's very
• 57:15
  apparently like circling back to like the yes, these individuals
• 57:20
  have like, essentially a chronic illness where they need this
• 57:22
  other thing to survive. And in order to do that, we got
• 57:25
  to go raid some coastal towns. Yeah, OK.
• 57:30
  But you've built a system where that will always be the case.
• 57:33
  Yes, that's that's it, right. Like they've it's almost kind of
• 57:36
  a because like that's how the INS sustain themselves.
• 57:38
  Like very early on is that they just had to raid because they
• 57:42
  didn't have any structures. It was just a like when the
• 57:45
  Nemari start to look sick, we go and raid and now it's built into
• 57:49
  this huge system that certainly like certainly like basically no
• 57:54
  Nemari ever feel that like drain of needing souls.
• 57:58
  But that's all in service of being the lowest rung on the
• 58:01
  ladder, right? And it's like it's they're going
• 58:05
  up there to get souls, but there are other things you get when
• 58:09
  you go to war and win that the other classes that don't need
• 58:13
  souls must be benefiting. From yes yeah, they don't just
• 58:16
  take souls, they take treasure, they take resources and a lot of
• 58:20
  those resources go back into funding the war.
• 58:22
  Reference weapons don't come from nowhere, but.
• 58:25
  You have. To yeah, but it's like I said,
• 58:27
  it's all cyclical. It's all and it's part of it's
• 58:30
  also rooted in their like inability to trust like the I
• 58:34
  think. It's seeing I dolphins, yeah.
• 58:37
  Actually. The Dolphins, I bet.
• 58:39
  Actually I have bad news. So we were we were talking about
• 58:44
  like the Asharin and their different like schools of magic
• 58:47
  and stuff. One of the Asharin like groups
• 58:51
  like schools of magic is the taming of sea creatures.
• 58:56
  So sea creatures don't have mammal brains.
• 59:02
  You cannot meaningfully tame like a fish.
• 59:05
  I didn't. Say fish, I said.
• 59:07
  Dolphin. I know, I know.
• 59:09
  But we're getting there. You can't meaningfully tame like
• 59:12
  an ocean animal just because that's not how their brain
• 59:16
  works. You can instill habits in them,
• 59:19
  but you're you're never going to get the loyalty of like a dog
• 59:22
  from Yeah, from like an. Ocean for that right?
• 59:26
  Like and so the all of the animals that the I'd nephews in
• 59:32
  warfare and in domestic practice and stuff are not tamed, they
• 59:37
  are mind controlled. Also, we're just and that's
• 59:40
  another problem. We just use a shortcut rather
• 59:42
  than doing the hard effort of like domesticating these
• 59:45
  creatures. And for whatever reason my head
• 59:49
  can is because it's like the title magic it's rooting
• 59:53
  through. Like the same reason that Marty
• 59:55
  don't have souls for whatever reason.
• 59:58
  The only way you can make. That like mind control magic
• 1:00:02
  stick so it is a spell you cast once and that animal is
• 1:00:05
  permanently like under your control is by blinding them.
• 1:00:10
  See, it's the problem is you can't break out of the cyclical
• 1:00:12
  cycle, right? They're just using mind control
• 1:00:15
  and the creatures forever and you can't use them as a seeing
• 1:00:17
  eye dolphin. But if you weren't mind
• 1:00:20
  controlling the creature and just actually working to
• 1:00:23
  domesticate, you spend all this time inventing fucking tidal
• 1:00:26
  magic, you couldn't invent a goddamn seeing eye octopus.
• 1:00:30
  Truly no. I see a guy an octopus as a
• 1:00:33
  service animal would be. So useful.
• 1:00:37
  We, we just referenced Lotan. That's explicitly what his
• 1:00:39
  octopus is for. Like it's to help him like
• 1:00:42
  organize stuff and like keep like because he's the, he's a
• 1:00:45
  warden, he's a, he's a keeper of the sole Ledger.
• 1:00:48
  So he's literally working with paperwork all the time and the
• 1:00:50
  octopus is literally there to help him, like organize and
• 1:00:52
  stuff. But yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Octopuses are stupid smart. You could.
• 1:00:56
  Spend a few generations of octopi training and breeding
• 1:01:00
  them and you would have everybody gets an octopus.
• 1:01:04
  Truly, the ideneth of the children of Tectilus, Like I
• 1:01:10
  said, like I said at the top of the episode, the ideneth are the
• 1:01:14
  lumineth, but starting at the bottom of the ladder, right.
• 1:01:17
  Like that's fundamentally the issue.
• 1:01:20
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  No, but if you just didn't do it.
• 1:01:24
  This. Way it would be so much better
• 1:01:27
  for everybody and then and then you could have a different kind
• 1:01:32
  of economy where you are providing trained sea creatures
• 1:01:35
  as pets and companions to the other people.
• 1:01:39
  I'm sure I'd rather love to have friendly dolphin companions or
• 1:01:43
  trained octopi like what are you doing?
• 1:01:46
  This is the one we could dream in.
• 1:01:48
  We could prevent the entire economy based on it's being like
• 1:01:54
  pedigree dogs, not puppy mills. That's not what I'm saying, No.
• 1:01:58
  Yeah, you rescue a pageant baby octopus.
• 1:02:00
  Pedigree fish, pedigree fish. So mad.
• 1:02:10
  This is this is the tragedy of the I'm always.
• 1:02:12
  Mad about it always boils down to fucking techless.
• 1:02:19
  Let's talk a little bit about like Iness society, a little
• 1:02:21
  large. So we have our no, no, no, yeah,
• 1:02:25
  we have our caste system. I want to talk a little bit
• 1:02:26
  about like the political structures of Iness society.
• 1:02:29
  So generally an enclave, which is like the largest like
• 1:02:32
  organizational thing, we say enclave in the same way we might
• 1:02:35
  say it like a nation of Idaneth. Enclaves generally are led by
• 1:02:39
  councils. It it depends on the enclave.
• 1:02:41
  Some do have like single monarchical rulers.
• 1:02:43
  But even when an enclave is led by a council, every person on
• 1:02:47
  that council is a king or queen. They're very like set on like
• 1:02:52
  all of us are equals at this like table, which is ironic
• 1:02:56
  given that everyone at the table is an Italian.
• 1:02:58
  Yeah, of course. You're all equal at the table.
• 1:03:01
  You're all the top caste system that you invented.
• 1:03:03
  Right. Generally just be for like
• 1:03:06
  resource distribution, all the members of an enclave won't live
• 1:03:09
  in the same physical location. They'll be spread out so that
• 1:03:12
  they have different rating grounds largely, but they will
• 1:03:15
  meet for like council meetings and whatnot.
• 1:03:18
  This is the thing that's going to blow the whole it off of
• 1:03:21
  everything that we've been talking about in like the most
• 1:03:24
  interesting way. I think despite their title, a
• 1:03:29
  Kellian kings and Queens aren't hereditary positions.
• 1:03:33
  And there's a good reason for that.
• 1:03:34
  It's because. It can't reproduce.
• 1:03:36
  It's because a Kellians have no guarantee that their children
• 1:03:41
  will also be a Kellians. I was wanting to know this.
• 1:03:44
  This is what I was wanting to know is like what are the roll
• 1:03:47
  the dice odds on? Here, here's the other thing.
• 1:03:51
  A Kelians can have Nemardy children and Nemardy can have a
• 1:03:55
  Kelian children. That's what I was.
• 1:03:57
  Waiting for. I was like.
• 1:03:58
  Wanting to know, I'm like, OK, OK, you are born into this class
• 1:04:02
  system, but your children may not be born into that caste
• 1:04:05
  system, correct? Because it is.
• 1:04:09
  That's also interesting. I was like wondering, I'm like,
• 1:04:11
  what is the genetic? It's not there.
• 1:04:13
  It's not a genetic component. It's not genetic, but.
• 1:04:16
  It is because it's the idonet. It's not going to happen to the
• 1:04:18
  Luminae, correct? It's not going to happen to
• 1:04:20
  anyone else. You're not going to have this
• 1:04:21
  suddenly happening just like some other ways of like dwarves
• 1:04:24
  or humans or somewhere else. Like it's never going to happen
• 1:04:26
  anywhere else. It's just.
• 1:04:27
  It's just population. No matter how many generations
• 1:04:30
  go down the line. And we do know it's dominant
• 1:04:32
  because we know that because it's the most well.
• 1:04:35
  Like if an IDNF has a child with a like Lumineth elf, their child
• 1:04:40
  can inherit the soul curse. Fucking crazy can and most
• 1:04:44
  likely will. Yes, I was gonna say they they
• 1:04:47
  definitely do get it. They just still might be born at
• 1:04:50
  Kelly and. Right.
• 1:04:51
  Yes. So their their soul is still
• 1:04:52
  intact and you won't know till maybe in like 2 generations
• 1:04:55
  they. Have Yeah, they they still carry
• 1:04:57
  the. Genius yes yeah or the soul
• 1:05:00
  cursed soul curse and so that's also what makes it complicated I
• 1:05:04
  I kind of I kind of buried little bit here I love how you
• 1:05:08
  should and it. Allows me to be completely
• 1:05:10
  unhinged. I buried the lead a little bit
• 1:05:12
  here because I said earlier that if they wanted to, the Akalians
• 1:05:16
  and the Asharan could leave the Nemardy behind and just go off
• 1:05:19
  and have their own little full Soul Society.
• 1:05:22
  But they can't because there's no guarantee that our tiny 15%
• 1:05:26
  slice of the population wouldn't have a whole generation of
• 1:05:29
  Nemardy kids. And then you're done.
• 1:05:31
  Yeah, then your generation's over and then your population is
• 1:05:34
  done because yes. So that's the real secret to it,
• 1:05:38
  right? Not even secret.
• 1:05:40
  Like for every a Kelly, Yes. For every a Kellyan who
• 1:05:44
  genuinely believes that this is the best way to structure
• 1:05:47
  society, that they are the caretakers of the Namardi who
• 1:05:52
  rely upon them, there is all the other Akellians who know that
• 1:05:56
  they keep the Namardi around because they're going to need
• 1:05:58
  more Akellians, and they are the biggest chunk of the population.
• 1:06:03
  So they're more likely to produce an Achelian than the
• 1:06:06
  Achelians are? Yes, by numbers game.
• 1:06:10
  And that Achelian can be uplifted into the Leadership
• 1:06:14
  Council of Achelians and can be taught the way I didn't do
• 1:06:17
  things and can keep perpetuating this cycle that we all live
• 1:06:21
  inside. Is there a degree of shame if
• 1:06:26
  and slash? Probably when an Achelian has a
• 1:06:28
  Namardi child. Surprisingly not that I've seen.
• 1:06:32
  Interesting. Like they all kind of
• 1:06:33
  understand. Well, sorry, there's not.
• 1:06:36
  Shame on the Achelian, but they don't raise that.
• 1:06:40
  Child. Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  That was. Immediately gets shipped off to
• 1:06:44
  Namardi boarding school. Yep, Yep, you just.
• 1:06:47
  To the Namardi Orphanage. The Namardi like coral, like the
• 1:06:53
  houses that the the Namardi live in.
• 1:06:56
  Similarly, Namardi rarely do like what we think of as a
• 1:06:59
  traditional familiar relationship.
• 1:07:01
  Like the Namardi's kids are just the rest of the Namardi.
• 1:07:05
  It's not like this is mom and dad.
• 1:07:06
  It's like, oh, these are the elders of the Namardi and these
• 1:07:09
  are the newborns of the Namardi and.
• 1:07:10
  We're all they're raised in. Community takes a village
• 1:07:12
  that's. What I was trying to.
• 1:07:14
  And a lot of our Nemardy kids aren't born to anyone here down
• 1:07:16
  in the Nemardy, and we take them in because that's where they're
• 1:07:19
  in the Marty. Yeah, and similarly.
• 1:07:21
  Statistically, our kids will likely be taken.
• 1:07:23
  Away, I was going to say. And similarly, Nevardy don't get
• 1:07:27
  attached to their own children because, oops, this one's an
• 1:07:29
  Akelian, and the scar and guard are here to like, take them up
• 1:07:34
  to the Akelian Council, where at a high-ranking Akelian noble
• 1:07:39
  will adopt to them. Air quote.
• 1:07:41
  Air quote, Yeah. Take them as they're like air
• 1:07:46
  basically. Interesting.
• 1:07:47
  OK. Got to perpetuate that cycle we.
• 1:07:50
  Have like a couple being like we always wanted a child and was
• 1:07:54
  there a list? Is there like a waiting list of
• 1:07:57
  like wanting to get an air? Not really, it's just whoever
• 1:08:00
  doesn't have one yet takes one. Sometimes they'll take multiple.
• 1:08:05
  Sometimes it's a matter of court drama or fight infighting like
• 1:08:09
  that's. Crazy.
• 1:08:11
  And also. Hey, my IVF reference earlier is
• 1:08:16
  starting to feel very somatic actually.
• 1:08:18
  You know the Achillian would if they could.
• 1:08:23
  Generally Achillians will, like I said, they just adopt like a
• 1:08:27
  promising Achillian child, usually from the Namardi cast,
• 1:08:30
  and just try and raise them as they're given air.
• 1:08:33
  That's not always guaranteed just cause like sometimes people
• 1:08:36
  aren't fit for leadership. Generally a Kellian's on the
• 1:08:40
  like leadership councils are safe on that council in their
• 1:08:43
  own time so to speak. Like we rarely have secession
• 1:08:47
  crises in idon S society just because everyone's starkly aware
• 1:08:51
  that a breakdown in leadership could destroy the enclave right
• 1:08:56
  if the next raid goes bad because we're in fighting.
• 1:09:00
  But in between leaders there are often challenges for that role.
• 1:09:07
  I'm a reference the only Eideneth book I read for this
• 1:09:10
  episode, The Hollow King. I've already forgotten that.
• 1:09:15
  No, that's the other guy court of the blind king.
• 1:09:19
  That's yeah, that's the inciting incident of that book is our
• 1:09:23
  protagonist is a a Kellian raised from birth to secede his
• 1:09:30
  quote UN quote mother who is a a Kellian queen on the council.
• 1:09:34
  But he kind of sucks and he never took his responsibilities
• 1:09:37
  of leadership like with the proper like respect and he was
• 1:09:42
  just very prideful of his like martial combat and like didn't
• 1:09:46
  learn his statecraft very well. That's no good.
• 1:09:48
  Yeah. And so he gets challenged by his
• 1:09:51
  mom's, like, lover, basically not even husband for like,
• 1:09:56
  position on the Kellyanne Council, and that guy takes it
• 1:10:00
  from him. Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  As he should. And then the rest of the plot of
• 1:10:04
  that book is The Emperor's New Groove, which is extremely
• 1:10:07
  funny. He like gets locked up down in
• 1:10:11
  the like Namarty, like chambers as a like, we don't want to kill
• 1:10:16
  you because you're a Kelly. And but we're not going to let
• 1:10:19
  you anywhere near the halls of power ever again.
• 1:10:22
  And Namarty lets him out under the understanding of like, I'm
• 1:10:27
  going to like help you right now and basically save your life.
• 1:10:30
  And you are going to like elevate me and like some other
• 1:10:35
  nomarty to like positions of power, basically.
• 1:10:38
  And he's like, I can't you're not a Kellyan's.
• 1:10:40
  And she's like, I guess I should just close this fucking cage
• 1:10:43
  door again. But how interesting that the.
• 1:10:46
  Cage doesn't open. Wrong fucking answer, idiot.
• 1:10:51
  If you want on their visual reference, he's on the he's on
• 1:10:54
  the next slide. He sucks.
• 1:11:00
  Look at how he's wow. Hands.
• 1:11:03
  On the knee. Just.
• 1:11:04
  Wow, lounging. You are underwater, my dude.
• 1:11:08
  You do not need to pose like that.
• 1:11:10
  He's got his eel in the background.
• 1:11:13
  That's pretty good, right? It's a pretty.
• 1:11:14
  Good eel. Though, right.
• 1:11:15
  And then the same, the other picture on that slide is just
• 1:11:18
  like like an Achelian court it's.
• 1:11:22
  Just a fucking red carpet party. Goddamn Premiere of Wicked is
• 1:11:29
  what it is. We talked about the Italians,
• 1:11:33
  like I said, we talked about the Ishar and how they're like
• 1:11:35
  critical to both like wartime activities and like magic back
• 1:11:41
  at home. The Ishar and cast are the ones
• 1:11:44
  who actually build those, like Nemardi housing and stuff.
• 1:11:46
  Again, it's not really a benevolent act, it's a Control
• 1:11:49
  Act, but it is the while tide casters generally build like all
• 1:11:55
  the other structures because they're moving waves, it is the
• 1:11:57
  like soul magic cast that builds the the coral.
• 1:12:03
  Yeah, because they they tell the coral soul how to grow, which is
• 1:12:07
  very weird, but I like it a lot. Oh, I did want to mention this
• 1:12:12
  aspect of like I didn't have the military.
• 1:12:15
  So idaneth go to a place to raid tidecasters conjure the aether
• 1:12:19
  sea so that all they're like sea creatures can move above land.
• 1:12:24
  Let's sea. Creatures move on land you can
• 1:12:26
  invent seal. I octopus I see.
• 1:12:30
  Well, that's the other because remember, only the Achelian cast
• 1:12:34
  gets the privilege of riding sea creature you.
• 1:12:38
  Have to ride the octopus? It could be a little octopus.
• 1:12:41
  Maybe the octopus aren't that big, but it'd be so handy to
• 1:12:44
  have around if you needed visual like aid assistant.
• 1:12:48
  It's all, it's all structure. Order does not mean good, right?
• 1:12:51
  Like this is. How how it has always been put
• 1:12:55
  that on sticker. But one thing I do really like
• 1:12:59
  is that some of the like soul Wizards have so they're they
• 1:13:04
  conjure the other sea. They have the like fish and the
• 1:13:06
  other eye net like swimming through the other sea to attack
• 1:13:09
  their opponents. The other big thing that INET do
• 1:13:11
  as part of their raids is they use soul magic to like disorient
• 1:13:16
  and like strike fear into their opponents and then also leave
• 1:13:21
  them with amnesia when they go. That's so.
• 1:13:25
  What did I say about the cryptids?
• 1:13:27
  So spooky. From the perspective of that
• 1:13:31
  small coastal village, one day couple people just disappeared.
• 1:13:35
  Don't. Don't look at the ocean.
• 1:13:38
  Don't. Go in the ocean.
• 1:13:40
  And so that, and that's also like, and that's just good
• 1:13:43
  hunting practice, right? You you don't want to attack a
• 1:13:46
  village and then have the village pack up and leave.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, just maybe. Forget you are here.
• 1:13:49
  Yeah, specifically how iden F like soul Wizards 'cause like
• 1:13:57
  panic and like hysteria and stuff in their opponents is they
• 1:14:02
  find that like self detrimental, like self loathing part of
• 1:14:07
  themselves and they tap into it. Like they tap into that part of
• 1:14:12
  their own soul and then they just project it.
• 1:14:15
  Yeah, I, I wanted to mention it because when I was reading that,
• 1:14:20
  I just had the thought of a wizard going like, and now you
• 1:14:24
  have my depression because that's really what it is.
• 1:14:31
  There's depression home answers, which is wild, but it's such a
• 1:14:36
  good, like I said that that that magic doesn't come from nowhere.
• 1:14:40
  They aren't fear Wizards, they're soul Wizards.
• 1:14:42
  And so they're just pulling from their own like anxieties and
• 1:14:46
  like fears and like depression about what they are and what
• 1:14:52
  they're doing. Like a lot of they even got.
• 1:14:55
  Good therapy that would just be useless.
• 1:14:58
  They would not be able to do that.
• 1:14:59
  Not be able to be Wizards anymore.
• 1:15:02
  I kind of glossed over it, but most I'd not hate the fact that
• 1:15:06
  they have to rid. I'm sure it seems like a bummer.
• 1:15:10
  Sucks. They aren't like, they don't
• 1:15:13
  like that this is just what they have to do to survive,
• 1:15:16
  basically. Which like, yeah, like.
• 1:15:21
  And that's and that's also depressing.
• 1:15:23
  It's like, Dad, just if you're gonna do it, at least like revel
• 1:15:25
  in it. Let's do some sort of like.
• 1:15:27
  Some. Nordic Raider type like this is
• 1:15:30
  our. To be fair, some enclaves do
• 1:15:33
  like Iness. Society is multifaceted.
• 1:15:35
  I'm just gonna make it better. I'm just saying like this how
• 1:15:37
  you gotta be like you ought to be bummer about it.
• 1:15:40
  They're gonna be sad. I don't know their name, but
• 1:15:42
  there's like an enclave that has fully embraced the like, yeah,
• 1:15:47
  we have to raid for souls. But if we it was so easy for us
• 1:15:50
  to take them from you, you weren't really doing anything
• 1:15:52
  important with it, were you? Like, we're the biggest, we're
• 1:15:55
  the biggest fish now, huh? Yeah, there's always a bigger
• 1:15:58
  fish. And it's me.
• 1:16:00
  Yeah. So it's definitely the enclaves
• 1:16:03
  definitely have like very different like approaches.
• 1:16:07
  The quote supposedly quote UN quote first enclave is like real
• 1:16:11
  big into like Ida nation like they're they don't see it has
• 1:16:17
  disparate enclaves. They're constantly trying to
• 1:16:19
  like, keep communication, like diplomacy open across all the
• 1:16:22
  enclaves because they're like, no, like the way forward for our
• 1:16:25
  species is if we're all working together, we can't like
• 1:16:28
  fractionalize like this or just going to end up like the fucking
• 1:16:32
  dwarfs. And like the fucking.
• 1:16:35
  Dwarfs. I like how varied like all the
• 1:16:39
  various enclaves and stuff are because it feels very real.
• 1:16:41
  Those are the only two like big ones that I know a ton about,
• 1:16:43
  because a lot of them are just kind of written to be like yes,
• 1:16:47
  they're Iden Athon actually, here's what they're like.
• 1:16:50
  But those two, I think the like bigger fish ones are on ger,
• 1:16:54
  which makes sense because it's the realm of beasts.
• 1:16:57
  Like sorry, I have all the fittest type thing, and then the
• 1:17:00
  the original I supposedly original enclave.
• 1:17:03
  No one knows for sure is on guy ran because, yeah, soothe souls.
• 1:17:08
  You can devote more of your energy to the last thing I want
• 1:17:13
  to talk about for like before we get into our our famous faces,
• 1:17:18
  our like named idaneth characters.
• 1:17:21
  Yeah, segment is called. I think so.
• 1:17:23
  We said it in the Zinch episode and I remembered it when we when
• 1:17:26
  I was editing it. So now, yeah, that's what it's
• 1:17:28
  called. And the notes make sure we
• 1:17:29
  reference it every time. Yep, the last like type of
• 1:17:33
  idaneth I want to mention before we get to our famous faces, and
• 1:17:36
  they're not even really a type of idaneth.
• 1:17:39
  They are called idalons. If you remember, that's what I
• 1:17:42
  was when we started this episode.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, an Idalon is a last ditch magical weapon of mass
• 1:17:52
  destruction. It is a something is threatening
• 1:17:56
  the enclave or we are so behind on like gathering souls that we
• 1:18:02
  will die out if we don't do something.
• 1:18:06
  So I mentioned previously previously that previously the
• 1:18:12
  Asharin soul renders they they gather souls of enemies who die
• 1:18:15
  in battle. They will gather souls of
• 1:18:16
  ideneth who die and try and stick them back in them.
• 1:18:20
  Any ideneth who died that that doesn't work on or who, like,
• 1:18:22
  succumb to injuries, like at home, Basically any other
• 1:18:26
  ideneth that die also have their souls, like, harvested by the
• 1:18:31
  Asharin. But the Asharin treat idenessols
• 1:18:36
  with a reference that they don't give to, like, the people they
• 1:18:39
  raid. You can't.
• 1:18:41
  No. Yeah.
• 1:18:42
  They would never use an idenessol to, like, sustain
• 1:18:45
  another ideneth that's seen as, like, profane.
• 1:18:48
  Yeah. They keep them.
• 1:18:51
  They take them and they put them in, like, urns made of coral.
• 1:18:55
  And they are just kept in Ideneth like stretches of the
• 1:19:00
  ocean in these massive mausoleums that is just their
• 1:19:05
  equivalent of like a sacrificial burial.
• 1:19:07
  They're painfully aware that Shaish is not a safe place for
• 1:19:11
  souls with Nagash overseeing it. So instead you your soul gets to
• 1:19:15
  live in a jar and given. The choice.
• 1:19:20
  Yeah, and that is a privilege for both, like a Kellian and
• 1:19:25
  Namarty. For what it's worth, Novarti can
• 1:19:28
  also look forward to, like, having their soul safe from the
• 1:19:31
  grass of Trish, which, yeah, an idol on is when we have no other
• 1:19:39
  consequences. We're going to crack a bunch of
• 1:19:41
  jars open. There it is.
• 1:19:42
  I was. Waiting for it there.
• 1:19:44
  You go. I was like, huh, what an
• 1:19:45
  interesting time to mention. This.
• 1:19:46
  Yep, the Asharan caskets. Together they crack open a bunch
• 1:19:50
  of jars and they take the parts of those souls that believe
• 1:19:55
  strongly in Mathlon. They take the like faithful part
• 1:20:00
  of the soul basically, and magically coalesce them all
• 1:20:04
  together into an idolon of Mathlon.
• 1:20:07
  They manifest an avatar of their God.
• 1:20:10
  It's very cool. It is a notably giving them
• 1:20:18
  credit. It doesn't damage the souls to
• 1:20:20
  our knowledge. Yeah, it it sucks because it's
• 1:20:23
  desecrating a graveyard to like functionally right to like save
• 1:20:28
  the save the enclave, which is why they don't just do it all
• 1:20:31
  the time, but it doesn't seem to damage the souls.
• 1:20:33
  They just have to like get them back in the jars afterwards and.
• 1:20:37
  Sigmar can't even say that. Yeah, no, yeah, I was going to
• 1:20:40
  say Idelines and Mathlon are either summoned as aspects of
• 1:20:44
  the sea, which is sustaining and cyclical, and they'd show up and
• 1:20:49
  they, like, heal the idolon's like, yeah, idolon leader
• 1:20:54
  Idaneth. I'm going to keep doing that.
• 1:20:56
  They show up and heal the idaneth like who are fighting,
• 1:20:59
  or they help repair structures or they do these kind of
• 1:21:04
  restorative things, or they are summoned as an aspect of the
• 1:21:08
  storm which is not any of that destructive wrathful.
• 1:21:16
  You wouldn't want to summon an idol on of the storm for a raid
• 1:21:20
  because they're just going to obliterate stuff faster than you
• 1:21:23
  can like collect the souls. You summon them if you're
• 1:21:26
  beefing with like dwarfs or whatever and you just need their
• 1:21:29
  hold to not exist anymore. So at what time do the Idaneth
• 1:21:34
  participate in the Grand Alliance of Order and dealing
• 1:21:38
  with the chaos problem? They raid chaos and they will
• 1:21:45
  get called upon to. They're most likely to work
• 1:21:49
  favorably with the Daughters of Cain who will pay them in souls
• 1:21:54
  like that's a big part of it. The daughters of Kane are
• 1:21:57
  willing to like pay the idneth in souls that they need usually
• 1:22:00
  more than they would get from rating.
• 1:22:02
  They say cool, bring the eels to this chaos for it and you can
• 1:22:05
  have everyone inside and also we have all these captives you can
• 1:22:08
  have as well if you want them if.
• 1:22:09
  You want them. We don't need.
• 1:22:10
  Them they'll work with the Silvaneth because they don't
• 1:22:14
  like Silvaneth souls for whatever reason, and
• 1:22:17
  Sylvanessels are hard to harvest as well because Sylvaneth
• 1:22:20
  generally return to their like soul pods when they die.
• 1:22:23
  Yeah, it's not worth the effort. Yeah, just not worth the effort.
• 1:22:25
  So they'll work with Sylvaneth, and there's kind of an Elfie
• 1:22:27
  connection there as well. The ones who still Revere
• 1:22:31
  techless will work with the Luminef, yeah.
• 1:22:36
  The idea of the daughters of Cain working with the I don't
• 1:22:40
  have just really layers on the just some random farmer who's
• 1:22:44
  living their life and their crazy ass cousin is talking
• 1:22:47
  about the fish elves who will come and steal your stole from
• 1:22:51
  the sea. And they and they work with the
• 1:22:53
  daughters and say uh huh. Yeah, uh huh.
• 1:22:54
  All right, cousin Benny. Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  You saw them plotting with the dot.
• 1:22:58
  Yeah, you did like those. Neither of those exist, Benny.
• 1:23:02
  And there's just a third person off to the side is like, I don't
• 1:23:05
  believe any of it. And it's just very clearly
• 1:23:08
  daughters of Cain with like a fake beard.
• 1:23:12
  That sounds made-up to me. Who wants shots?
• 1:23:15
  Masters of spycraft. There's a now kind of old series
• 1:23:20
  of drawings by like someone in the Warhammer Fantasy community
• 1:23:23
  because the thing in the old world was like scave and don't
• 1:23:25
  exist like that's. Official.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah, that's the official policy of the Empire.
• 1:23:29
  So there's a bunch of famous kind of like old timey paintings
• 1:23:32
  by someone in the Warhammer Fantasy community of like scenes
• 1:23:35
  in the Empire, just like a big like group shot or whatever that
• 1:23:38
  they would always have just like super obviously Escaven but just
• 1:23:43
  in like area appropriate clothes, just also hanging out
• 1:23:47
  and I. In the right.
• 1:23:48
  Outfit yeah and I always think of dies a kid that way where
• 1:23:51
  it's just like you got like a rough and tumble bar and there's
• 1:23:54
  just like obviously like a thin murder lady who's just wearing
• 1:23:58
  the correct clothing. Like I don't think there's
• 1:24:01
  there's any threat of the daughters of Kate attacking this
• 1:24:03
  city. I think they exist yeah.
• 1:24:12
  Visual reference I'm going to point to the visual reference
• 1:24:14
  real quick before we get to our famous faces.
• 1:24:17
  I'm going to mention Achillian, not Alaplexis, because those are
• 1:24:21
  the sharks. Leviadon's.
• 1:24:24
  Leviadon. Which is a huge turtle.
• 1:24:27
  It's a big ass scary turtle. It's a.
• 1:24:29
  Huge scary turtle it's. A scary turtle.
• 1:24:33
  They're both used as a. Pirate ship on his back.
• 1:24:35
  Yeah, as you say, they're both used as siege weapons.
• 1:24:38
  Or you just have that turtle bashed down a wall.
• 1:24:40
  And also you can just mount, like, a full harpoon gun on him.
• 1:24:44
  Yep, That's wild. And then the next picture is an
• 1:24:48
  idol on a math line. Yeah, his cloak turns into
• 1:24:53
  waves, which kicks ass. Yeah, that's pretty tight.
• 1:24:57
  It's very good. Another stupid helmet.
• 1:24:59
  Yeah, always pretty tight. And then let's talk about our
• 1:25:03
  famous faces. Real.
• 1:25:03
  Quick, let's go. So we've got we've only got 2
• 1:25:07
  notable Eidneth characters so far.
• 1:25:10
  And they weren't the two we've already mentioned.
• 1:25:11
  One of them is low tan, but the other one we haven't talked
• 1:25:15
  about yet. I think they're kind of a newer
• 1:25:17
  faction in the grand scheme of like Warhammer.
• 1:25:20
  They're not like super new, but they they got there like initial
• 1:25:23
  release of models and they haven't gotten anything after
• 1:25:25
  that. And so that makes them new by
• 1:25:27
  like Warhammer standards. We just don't have like a ton of
• 1:25:30
  like because usually Steph's lore gets updated when it gets
• 1:25:32
  new models. Yeah.
• 1:25:35
  So we just don't have like a ton of lore about them.
• 1:25:37
  But so we don't have a lot of like named characters either, is
• 1:25:40
  like kind of how that goes because usually like a big
• 1:25:42
  important name character, they're going to get a model.
• 1:25:46
  The first one we have is Volturnos.
• 1:25:48
  He's on our next slide there. He's got an eye patch.
• 1:25:51
  Yep, Volturnos, According to him, and we're unsure if this is
• 1:25:57
  true. Yep, we're not sure if this is
• 1:25:58
  true. Some people believe, some people
• 1:26:00
  don't. According to Volturnos, he is
• 1:26:03
  part of that first making of ideness.
• 1:26:07
  He was in that original generation that techless
• 1:26:11
  handcrafted for the sole curse took root, Sir.
• 1:26:15
  I'm gonna need to see. Your ID Volturnos is the
• 1:26:19
  absolute top of the cast. Because of that he is a synthi
• 1:26:25
  which are the original like remade item F from Rossell which
• 1:26:29
  makes him the top and only person in the top like group of
• 1:26:33
  the cast. Volturnos is, if you believe
• 1:26:36
  him, the unchallenged High King of all Idaneth because he is
• 1:26:42
  Cynthia. Maybe I just automatically
• 1:26:47
  distrust authority. I think we should assassinate
• 1:26:50
  this man. Not allied enough, recognizes
• 1:26:53
  authority. Like a lot of the enclaves are
• 1:26:55
  just like, no, that's obviously a lie that you're telling to be
• 1:26:58
  put on top of the like. Already stupid.
• 1:27:01
  Classes. Yeah.
• 1:27:02
  His main claim to fame, if he is like.
• 1:27:06
  There's also the question of like, is this the original
• 1:27:08
  Volturnos? Because we know there was a
• 1:27:09
  Volturnos who was Sentai. Is this someone who was
• 1:27:12
  impersonating him? Is this the real Volturnos?
• 1:27:14
  It's all left pretty open and that's Yeah, that's the lore.
• 1:27:17
  If this is the same Volturnos, his main claim to fame is that
• 1:27:20
  he is the person who, like, overheard Teklas's plan to
• 1:27:24
  destroy the Idanath. And if he's not Volterdos, then
• 1:27:30
  he's our own. He's our main source for the
• 1:27:33
  fact that Teklas intended to destroy the Idanath.
• 1:27:36
  Yeah, yeah. Wait, OK, hold on.
• 1:27:43
  We get a little moral political complexity here.
• 1:27:46
  Yeah, are. You saying that might not be
• 1:27:49
  true? Yeah.
• 1:27:51
  That is a completely in universe possibility that Teklas did not
• 1:27:57
  intend to destroy the Eidneth and that that was a lie
• 1:28:01
  constructed by the Synthi to lead their people away from
• 1:28:04
  Teklas control and ultimately land them in this caste system
• 1:28:08
  where people like Vault Ternos are the absolute top.
• 1:28:14
  Like I said, I don't know. I'm so torn.
• 1:28:16
  I like both versions, yeah. Yeah, I like both versions.
• 1:28:19
  I'm what I'm torn about is that on one hand, I'm always prepared
• 1:28:24
  to believe that systems that are inherently based to suppress the
• 1:28:28
  classes and especially like caste systems are bad.
• 1:28:31
  And I'm instantly ready and prepared to be like, Yep,
• 1:28:35
  absolutely. I buy that 100%.
• 1:28:37
  This is just some dudes seeking power, wanting to be on top and
• 1:28:40
  important, and they're willing to lie and destroy and sabotage
• 1:28:43
  to get their way. The other hand, it would mean
• 1:28:45
  believing that Techless wasn't about to do something.
• 1:28:49
  Yeah, and that just seems more unlikely, right?
• 1:28:51
  To believe that Techless wasn't going to pick the most shitty
• 1:28:55
  option on the table. It's a really good potential
• 1:28:59
  twist because it being believable relies on us knowing
• 1:29:05
  who Techless is and the kind of stuff that he does all the
• 1:29:08
  goddamn time. And it's also.
• 1:29:10
  Uncle Techless, how are you? Yeah, it's also a good in
• 1:29:13
  universe justification for why the aneth would so readily
• 1:29:16
  believe like a claim like that. Right, Because they also know
• 1:29:19
  who techless is. Yeah, the fact that it's
• 1:29:23
  believable, even if it didn't happen, the fact that it is
• 1:29:26
  still so very believable. Hey, Techless.
• 1:29:28
  Yeah, big. Problem.
• 1:29:29
  My God. Yeah, not an up mark against
• 1:29:32
  Techless if it turns out to be a lie, right?
• 1:29:35
  But that's mainly Volturnos. He operates as the hiking of the
• 1:29:38
  INF. He's got a bunch of stuff in
• 1:29:40
  game that makes INF like fight better because they're like
• 1:29:42
  operating under his, like royal authority.
• 1:29:45
  But that's mainly what we've gotten from him.
• 1:29:49
  The next character I think is more interesting and that's low
• 1:29:51
  tan. We're we're back to talking
• 1:29:52
  about low tan. It's.
• 1:29:53
  Octopus. Yeah.
• 1:29:55
  Love the octopus model. Yeah, look, it's so nimble,
• 1:29:57
  right? How would you make?
• 1:29:59
  That right? How would you paint that?
• 1:30:01
  Difficulty if. It doesn't for me.
• 1:30:04
  Yeah, how would one paint this? I have a friend who has a
• 1:30:07
  beautifully painted Idenith army Nice that I should get pictures
• 1:30:11
  of and send to you. Yes, Low Tan is Warden of the
• 1:30:14
  Soul ledgers. He is the highest ranking soul
• 1:30:17
  warden. The people whose job it is to
• 1:30:20
  they're like the non combat Isharan, the ones who just like
• 1:30:24
  they're the ones who put people's souls in jars and also
• 1:30:27
  like feed bore souls to like newborn Namarty to keep them
• 1:30:33
  alive. All of the like non combat soul
• 1:30:35
  magic is. There a German do they eat it?
• 1:30:41
  No, no, they, they like infuse them with souls, Yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Just people use that, Yeah. Feet is funnier knowing that
• 1:30:47
  it's a joke. Yeah, but that was just like
• 1:30:49
  hold on, hold on. Wait wait wait.
• 1:30:52
  Any clarification on this? Right.
• 1:30:53
  The fuck now? They can't really be matching on
• 1:30:57
  them. Right.
• 1:30:58
  I mean, except I want them to be matching on the soul when they
• 1:31:02
  be given a soul and they just go much rather than just absorb.
• 1:31:05
  But just now I want them to launch them now.
• 1:31:07
  Fucking Pringles. Soul Pringles Lotan to me is
• 1:31:15
  like the most interesting like named character we have in
• 1:31:20
  Idaneth. Out of the two.
• 1:31:21
  Yeah, and also the guy from the book are characters.
• 1:31:26
  From the book canonical to the game, yes.
• 1:31:30
  Yeah, and characters from the game are canonical to the, like,
• 1:31:32
  broader lore. Yeah, OK.
• 1:31:34
  Continue. Like what's his name from Court
• 1:31:37
  of the Blind King doesn't have a model, but he's supposedly
• 1:31:40
  somewhere. Else he's like legitimately like
• 1:31:42
  a guy that existed yeah like you could play a game where you have
• 1:31:45
  like a thing your your army. Yeah, okay.
• 1:31:52
  Your army is idaneth and they are somehow connected to that
• 1:31:57
  character and that would is would be considered like totally
• 1:32:00
  above board. Yeah, You could play it like an
• 1:32:02
  idaneth versus idaneth game where you are like that guy and
• 1:32:05
  the guy who usurped his place on the throne, right?
• 1:32:08
  Yeah, I love it. That's part of why I love this
• 1:32:11
  game. Low tan.
• 1:32:13
  So he's the highest ranking of the Isharian or Isharan soul
• 1:32:19
  wardens. He maintains the coral tombs
• 1:32:23
  that he travels, but he's not tied to anyone enclave.
• 1:32:25
  He travels between the enclaves, ensuring that they're like,
• 1:32:28
  coral tombs are up to enough, that the souls are being
• 1:32:30
  properly cared for, that nothing's going to like, break
• 1:32:33
  and like, let souls escape and. Head to it.
• 1:32:38
  Yeah, basically it's very like he's got a very strong kind of
• 1:32:42
  like administrative theming, Like he's got all those scrolls
• 1:32:44
  and stuff that the octopus is helping him arrange.
• 1:32:47
  He's connected to that octopus at, like, the soul mind level.
• 1:32:51
  So they, like, know what the other is doing, just like an
• 1:32:54
  extension of him. Yeah.
• 1:32:57
  And the thing I like about Latin is that he is de facto like the
• 1:33:02
  highest ranking Asharn. He is the person in charge of
• 1:33:05
  like how soul magic is conducted and like all of those things and
• 1:33:09
  like the teaching of the soul magic that allows raids to
• 1:33:13
  happen. Everything that makes like
• 1:33:16
  modern eye in this society what it is.
• 1:33:18
  And the reason he is the warden of the Soul ledgers is because
• 1:33:22
  he keeps an account of all the souls ever taken in Idaneth
• 1:33:26
  raids. That's very specifically
• 1:33:30
  detailed. That's a long ass list.
• 1:33:33
  Yep. Why?
• 1:33:34
  Because someday, when they cure the idaneth condition, he wants
• 1:33:40
  to repay the debts that they have taken from the world.
• 1:33:43
  What? Yeah, He fully intends to.
• 1:33:48
  Not in like a one to one, like he's not going to give the rest
• 1:33:51
  of the world souls, but he fully intends that someday the IDNF
• 1:33:55
  will repay all of the harm they've inflicted on the world
• 1:33:59
  to survive. Because he does not want the
• 1:34:02
  IDNF to get comfortable in inflicting violence for
• 1:34:05
  survival. He wants it to be a temporary
• 1:34:08
  solution. That's like super super
• 1:34:10
  admirable. Is he aware of the way the
• 1:34:13
  society is structured? He is, and he doesn't like it
• 1:34:16
  right. He is our these are counterpoint
• 1:34:19
  to Volturnos because Volturnos benefits from the system.
• 1:34:22
  Volturnos might have like orchestrated the system to exist
• 1:34:25
  to benefit him. And Lotan is like, I can't, I
• 1:34:29
  can't stop right now because if I do, a lot of people will die.
• 1:34:34
  But I'm not going to let myself get comfortable with that.
• 1:34:37
  I am going to keep that like close to my heart.
• 1:34:41
  So if there is ever an opportunity to break this cycle,
• 1:34:44
  I can take it and I can fix what we've done.
• 1:34:48
  I. Love that.
• 1:34:49
  What is he actively doing? Nothing.
• 1:34:54
  That's the issue. Yeah, well, we haven't.
• 1:34:56
  Keeping a list. That's.
• 1:34:59
  And he's checking it twice. And this episode's probably
• 1:35:02
  coming out in April or May. We're we're recording it around
• 1:35:07
  Christmas time now, you know, kind of our schedule.
• 1:35:09
  We're talking about Marvel riders.
• 1:35:11
  We are new. Yeah, we talked about the
• 1:35:12
  Superman trailer. Yeah.
• 1:35:15
  That's kind of the tragedy of Lotem is that he is more than
• 1:35:19
  anyone concerned with like breaking this cycle.
• 1:35:22
  This like an unjust system and he doesn't have the power to do
• 1:35:27
  it. Remember the Doctor from Not the
• 1:35:32
  NHRE? That's not what they're called
• 1:35:34
  The Storm cast. I did that to myself by
• 1:35:36
  anchoring those two on Muses. What is the Doctor called?
• 1:35:41
  What's his name? Gardas.
• 1:35:43
  Yeah. He's like, I'm doing this
• 1:35:45
  because it is the only way I believe that I will be able to
• 1:35:49
  get back to doing this thing that I loved, which was actually
• 1:35:51
  being a doctor and helping people.
• 1:35:53
  And so he has that really wonderful noble ambition of
• 1:35:57
  seeing a better version of what this could be, but is actively
• 1:36:02
  contributing to the solution that is presenting itself now.
• 1:36:07
  Yes, not just writing lists of potential medicines that he
• 1:36:11
  could maybe one day do. Yeah, it it's tough because you
• 1:36:15
  want to empathize. I want to empathize, empathize
• 1:36:18
  with low Tam. I I get yeah, I get the I get
• 1:36:21
  his compulsion. I get where he is.
• 1:36:23
  But that like it's hard for him what's impossible for him to
• 1:36:28
  like? Like the only thing he do is
• 1:36:30
  withhold his like knowledge and all that would lead to is a lot
• 1:36:33
  of dead in the Marty. Yeah, and it it that the the
• 1:36:36
  introduction that the Idneth could be cured from the soul.
• 1:36:41
  The soul curse blindsided me so hard because not a single
• 1:36:46
  element or aspect of the way the society is like structured
• 1:36:49
  suggested that that was a goal in any way.
• 1:36:53
  Unlike the storm cast who was like yeah our souls get
• 1:36:56
  deteriorated every time we are reforged and the only solution
• 1:37:00
  is to no longer need to be reforged.
• 1:37:02
  Therefore, we got to keep fighting and fight back chaos
• 1:37:05
  and end this. It's the difference between the
• 1:37:08
  two, I would say is that yeah, Idneth have grown complacent
• 1:37:13
  within their system. Not the Namardi who are the ones
• 1:37:16
  being harmed by it, obviously, but the Achelians keep it going
• 1:37:20
  for their own benefit. Like I like, I like Idneth
• 1:37:23
  because they kind of embody that weird.
• 1:37:27
  Like, I don't know, it's interest.
• 1:37:29
  It's I'm going to quote Arcane because it's the best animated
• 1:37:32
  series I've ever seen. Idneth need something to break
• 1:37:36
  them out of their like unjust, like peace.
• 1:37:41
  They. Need the best or they need the
• 1:37:44
  base violence necessary for change and they're not and
• 1:37:48
  they're not getting it and they might someday but right now
• 1:37:53
  yeah, is where we are I. Feel like this is right for a
• 1:38:00
  chaos demon to roll up and start tugging some things here and
• 1:38:04
  there and the need to rise up and break the system can so
• 1:38:08
  easily be manipulated by someone with nefarious intentions to be
• 1:38:15
  able to. What's that War One skull for
• 1:38:20
  the skull throne? Yeah.
• 1:38:22
  I feel like he could roll up, really do some inciting
• 1:38:26
  incidents here, and you've got the Nemari fighting for
• 1:38:30
  themselves and then just becoming the thing I said
• 1:38:33
  earlier about reveling in the just taking of the souls and
• 1:38:36
  then being a necessary evil to keep themselves alive.
• 1:38:40
  But becoming like, well, you have to do it anyway, so why not
• 1:38:42
  let it be fun? That the thing I said earlier,
• 1:38:44
  that bad thing I said earlier? Yeah, bummer.
• 1:38:47
  I just meant more thematic storytelling than you put it
• 1:38:50
  into practice. That's just, that's what the
• 1:38:52
  chaos demon said. Oops.
• 1:38:53
  This is how the chaos get in. Corn Slanesh treasures elven
• 1:38:57
  souls above all others. So corn would never be allowed
• 1:39:01
  to come in here and. Start Corn would love to but
• 1:39:04
  because Corn hates Slanesh more than the other chaos gods.
• 1:39:07
  I can totally see that would also be very compelling
• 1:39:10
  narrative. Why is corn rolling up and being
• 1:39:12
  able to sabotage item and this no longer being a faction for
• 1:39:19
  the Grand Alliance for Order? Because Born was able to take
• 1:39:23
  advantage of this suppressed population and be like, well you
• 1:39:27
  already have to kill these dudes and you're way better.
• 1:39:30
  Yeah, they're stronger, but what if I filled you with blood rage?
• 1:39:37
  Can. You see it?
• 1:39:39
  Maybe in some future we actually got some cool like rules
• 1:39:42
  recently. Normally in game Grand Alliance
• 1:39:45
  just kind of means like what factions you can work with
• 1:39:48
  together. But they've just recently
• 1:39:51
  started experimenting with some interesting like cross Grand
• 1:39:54
  Alliance like they're called regiments of renown, just like a
• 1:39:57
  fixed group of units that you can bring across Grand Alliance.
• 1:40:03
  And I could see like. Chaos sworn I'd like as them
• 1:40:07
  doing something like that. We have, I talked about him a
• 1:40:11
  little bit in the Zinch episode with our Ogroids, our big and
• 1:40:16
  he's got the flaming skull stuff.
• 1:40:18
  Ogroids used to be part of like the Grand Alliance of
• 1:40:22
  Destruction with the orcs and the goblins and the ogres and
• 1:40:24
  stuff. I mean, they swore to Chaos
• 1:40:26
  because they were more like they weren't as Destruction focus as
• 1:40:29
  the others and their society was threatened.
• 1:40:31
  The one they just did for them was you can bring some Ogroids
• 1:40:35
  in like Destruction factions now as Destruction loyalists who
• 1:40:39
  didn't swear themselves to Chaos.
• 1:40:41
  They stuck with Gorkum Orca. Yeah, which is super cool.
• 1:40:45
  Yeah. But yeah, that's I think what
• 1:40:51
  we've got for Idneth, where they're in a situation.
• 1:40:54
  Yeah, they're in a situation. It's not a good one.
• 1:40:57
  I'm hoping they get more lore soon because they're
• 1:41:00
  fascinating, they're all. So interesting, like every.
• 1:41:04
  Single there's. Not a single one where I was
• 1:41:06
  like forgettable. Yep.
• 1:41:08
  Bass. Mid.
• 1:41:10
  Right. No.
• 1:41:12
  Crazy love them. Wild love them, super good.
• 1:41:15
  I'm so dressed, can't believe you backed me into the corner
• 1:41:17
  and almost saying that maybe Techlist didn't do a shitty
• 1:41:19
  thing. Feel betrayed.
• 1:41:22
  Feel attacked. Valid.
• 1:41:23
  Yeah, that's where we're going to leave off on Idaneth.
• 1:41:26
  Dear listener, I hope you have enjoyed listening to this
• 1:41:29
  episode as much as I have. I have, as always been your
• 1:41:34
  Idalon of Mathland on Montgomery and.
• 1:41:36
  I'm Darian smart and I think I will not go to the seaside to
• 1:41:39
  help cure my consumption. Until the moon comes back around
• 1:41:44
  again. See you next time.