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What Are the Best Choices in Altered TCG and Why is it STILL Waru · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Well, I just get fire. It fights what everybody? So
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  Speaker 1: it's Zee, my wife, my kid, like Gary Oder Bookie.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to fight like I'll fight and fight anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go. No.
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  Speaker 2: I like our current working relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Well we can make that go downhill real quick.
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  Speaker 3: So all right, well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I love you all, thank you?
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  Speaker 4: All right? What's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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  Speaker 4: the only, the w oh okay, I e joined here
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  Speaker 4: by the normal cast of misfits. We have the boxing champ,
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  Speaker 4: the noble one, Zach.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, I'll bring every bring anybody out.
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  Speaker 4: I'll fight him. And in the Blue Corner we got big.
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  Speaker 3: Z that's right, he has no chance.
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  Speaker 4: And then we got me and Oger here too, Hi, Ogre, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why everybody woke up and chose violence.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you would have got caught in the crossfire.
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  Speaker 4: And we just don't know what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Here chilling in the corner, trying not to get walloped.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed, But we're gonna do this little thing we call
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  Speaker 4: a podcast. We do it every Friday. You should come
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  Speaker 4: in to the Altered Corner Discord and listen to it
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  Speaker 4: every Friday at nine pm. If you're not out doing
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  Speaker 4: other things on your Friday. We talk about altered here.
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  Speaker 3: Even if you are just like put it in the
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  Speaker 3: background middle of the restaurant, blare it out sounds.
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  Speaker 4: Grandma and Grandpa behind you won't care.
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  Speaker 3: I used to play cards back in my day too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just they're still they're still playing rummy. But
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  Speaker 4: we got first off, we got the unique of the
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  Speaker 4: week with big Z. Is this one of yours too
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  Speaker 4: that you recently pulled?
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  Speaker 3: Is not mine? I wish or at least one of us,
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  Speaker 3: which is so unique of the week. I'm a little
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  Speaker 3: flopping around with who's doing what? So Robin is dead,
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  Speaker 3: so there's a big thing of like what's decks, what's
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  Speaker 3: out there? I mean, we're gonna talk a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about that moving from the metal line. But one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that has kind of been like a boogeyman
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  Speaker 3: for me is specifically out of Ortis they can they
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  Speaker 3: can pop out of Waru or Siggy. Is there a
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  Speaker 3: specific line that happens in Ortis Cards that I think
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  Speaker 3: deserves its own Like the actual condition is basically the
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  Speaker 3: unique of the week. I literally there are way better
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  Speaker 3: versions of this card. I just literally grabbed a random
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  Speaker 3: one to highlight. It doesn't matter which one I found.
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  Speaker 3: As soon as I found when it was going to
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  Speaker 3: be great, and that was true in this case. So
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  Speaker 3: we have a thought here from ortis a thought is
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  Speaker 3: a bureaucrat. This one costs four to three. It costs
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  Speaker 3: Its stats are three to two three, so not bad
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  Speaker 3: for stat wise as far as your bureaucrat line. It's
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  Speaker 3: got the normal. When it fails in this case, it
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  Speaker 3: creates two recruits in its own expedition. So that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's not why we're here. Why we're here is this
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  Speaker 3: specific condition, which is actually great in Siggy and if
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  Speaker 3: it happens to be burecrat, great in Warup. In this case,
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  Speaker 3: it is a bureaucrat. This one is when another non
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  Speaker 3: a token character joins your expeditions. If you control three
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  Speaker 3: or more characters, including this one, create an orders recruit
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  Speaker 3: one one one in your other expedition. So before I
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  Speaker 3: go on, like, that's so this is always ben create one.
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  Speaker 3: On the other side, you do have to have three.
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  Speaker 3: This specific condition does not have to be this limited.
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  Speaker 3: There are cars that just say when another non token
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  Speaker 3: character joins your expedition, create an orders recruit in any
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  Speaker 3: expedition you choose. There are lots of these things out there,
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  Speaker 3: and you see them coming at you from Siggy, you
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  Speaker 3: see them coming at you from Warrow. Siggy prefers the
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  Speaker 3: ones that are just super cheap. Their handcoffs are two
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  Speaker 3: or one. They don't care what the attributes are. Warrow
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  Speaker 3: has a more broad array of which ones that they
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  Speaker 3: can throw at you, because ideally they want them to
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  Speaker 3: be bureaucrats. But the super cheap ones work for them
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  Speaker 3: great too, because they tend to have lots of cards. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: this the decks that are coming at me that have
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  Speaker 3: two and I even saw one that had three of
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  Speaker 3: these types of cards are creating a like It's like
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  Speaker 3: it's not like a man a curve thing going on.
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  Speaker 3: It's creating like this spam differential in the amount of
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  Speaker 3: power that's hitting the board. That has really really been
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  Speaker 3: hard for me to keep up with when I see
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  Speaker 3: the decks like that. So my unique of the week
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  Speaker 3: is that specific when another character joins an expedition, it
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  Speaker 3: creates another token. And for Warrow, of course, you're looking
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  Speaker 3: at bureaucrat ciingy E. They're looking for a two. Three
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  Speaker 3: costs is okay, but they're really really wanting it's cost
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  Speaker 3: to be two. And that's what I wanted to highlight
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  Speaker 3: for the Unique of the Week, like that that idea,
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  Speaker 3: And because this condition can fit on so many different
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  Speaker 3: characters in Ortis, there are quite a few of these
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  Speaker 3: in the game right now, so it's like you could
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  Speaker 3: probably end up getting three if you wanted to invest
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  Speaker 3: some like financials into this without even that much money. Like,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of these, that is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: So because I see a lot of them, it's just
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  Speaker 3: one of those things. If they're more rare, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: see them as frequently. But quite often when I'm playing
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  Speaker 3: in the higher Arena, if I'm running at the blue,
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing at least one of these dudes, and when
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  Speaker 3: they hit the board, it's it's rough because they'll sandman
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  Speaker 3: this guy. I ran into one. Oh, I didn't run
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  Speaker 3: into it. I was reading someone won some event and
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  Speaker 3: I was looking at their uniques. They had one of
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  Speaker 3: these guys that was super cheap that could sleep himself.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't even a sandman. The two traits he got
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  Speaker 3: was this crazy good trait and the sleep trait from Samman.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, like this is just a lottery
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  Speaker 3: winning dude here, but uh, that is what what I
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  Speaker 3: brought to you. I don't know if y'all run in
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  Speaker 3: any of these The games I lose to Blue right
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  Speaker 3: now mostly are because of this this condition.
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  Speaker 2: That's always been sort of something that they can leverage
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  Speaker 2: in addition to all their other strengths as well. Like
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  Speaker 2: we've had the discussion before, I think on the cast,
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  Speaker 2: even that power that's split onto multiple b is almost
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  Speaker 2: always in the current meta superior of power that's condensed
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  Speaker 2: into one. So like if you play a three three
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  Speaker 2: three character and your opponent gets three ortist recruits out,
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  Speaker 2: they're up advantage wise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it like the most almost all of
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  Speaker 3: the Golden Game is one one dude, except for Krakins Wrath,
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  Speaker 3: which I think might be going up in value at
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  Speaker 3: some point in time. I think it has to be.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen more of them, because I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Blue is everywhere in late game. Krakens Wrath can win
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  Speaker 3: the game, but you do have to get to the
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  Speaker 3: late game.
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  Speaker 1: I really like that this one self fulfills its clause
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  Speaker 1: in a warter deck or like you said, the same deck,
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  Speaker 1: like you play it, it's going to fail. You create
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  Speaker 1: two tokens, you've got your three characters, You're ready to
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  Speaker 1: start happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's as I was sitting here reading it. That's
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  Speaker 2: one of the things like if you control three or more.
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  Speaker 2: This gets me with Ortis all the time because they
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  Speaker 2: have a large variety of cards that say three or more.
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  Speaker 2: Other and they have a large variety of cards that
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  Speaker 2: say three or more and the inclusive exclusive has caught
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  Speaker 2: me so many times like making a mistake like expectation
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  Speaker 2: wise playing into them, and then like in draft and
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  Speaker 2: and sealed environment, it's caught me up playing with Ortist
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  Speaker 2: cards because I'm much less familiar with them. I think
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  Speaker 2: Zach's had to give me back season like three different
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  Speaker 2: things where we've been at.
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  Speaker 1: The show, like a yeah, speaking of speaking of Ozma,
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  Speaker 1: do you see the one that west Will posted in
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  Speaker 1: the chat. It's a three to two on hand play
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  Speaker 1: effect to control one more landmarks draw card. Not a
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  Speaker 1: big deal when another non tokenition it creates if you
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  Speaker 1: control token crete two Like good.
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  Speaker 3: This one's better than the ones that I showed you
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  Speaker 3: and specifically this one's great for Stiggy. This is that
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  Speaker 3: three too, I'm talking about like because Sticky doesn't care
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  Speaker 3: if they're bureaucrass. This is actually both great for all Blue.
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  Speaker 3: But in this case, like you're you're going to have
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  Speaker 3: Ciggy is more likely to have a uh. I guess
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  Speaker 3: War is more likely to have a landmark actually, but
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  Speaker 3: either way, well.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the Siggys do run like a token
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  Speaker 2: uh I say a lot.
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  Speaker 3: No, I feel like not as much anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I see, I still see carriers.
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  Speaker 3: I still see them occasionally, but the ones that are
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  Speaker 3: like winning games typically don't have them.
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  Speaker 2: Carriers pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the math is not that great on it, especially
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  Speaker 3: when everyone is running stuff to get rid of Haven.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, there are some things that were quite like if
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  Speaker 2: you've got a set of uniques that really wants a
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  Speaker 2: landmark trigger, I could definitely see, including.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that that can't change some stuff like if I
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  Speaker 3: had three of this OSMA, I would go out of
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  Speaker 3: my way to force some end months.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, even though it's create two recruits in
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  Speaker 2: my expedition as opposed to like in target.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that means playing the dude on the other side
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  Speaker 3: and then the other two are laying here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's still money of flex and that's that
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  Speaker 2: can be so many bodies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the value.
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  Speaker 2: So every every artistic nowadays is running paper messenger. Like
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  Speaker 2: you pay pay one cost, you get your little is
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  Speaker 2: paper messenger one.
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  Speaker 3: Zero zero, it's sometimes hald is zero zero one, so
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  Speaker 3: almost nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: But like you pay one, you get your token body,
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  Speaker 2: you get these two and then if you happen to
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  Speaker 2: have a charge in hand, you've now got one, two, three,
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  Speaker 2: four bodies to hit with it.
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  Speaker 3: Well then that's not even counting like what you already had.
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  Speaker 3: They like they all start what they took in as well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like it's pretty good multiplication spread spread spread. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and again the only answer, like effective answer is krakens
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  Speaker 3: wrath and that all it is is a stall for
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  Speaker 3: them until way late game because like, so what you
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  Speaker 3: played a five minute card. Now you do nothing because
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  Speaker 3: that faction doesn't have ramp, so that five minute will
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  Speaker 3: be their turn most of the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can. You can play it out an axiom,
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  Speaker 2: but that's really not your game.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen that played from axiom. Didn't even know
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  Speaker 3: where this odd affection was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes too much of a of a turn
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  Speaker 2: away from you to really afford it in axiom, I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're very momentum dependent.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well that is my unique of the week. We'll
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  Speaker 3: have some more specific on one's.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was last week.
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  Speaker 3: All right? Do you buy Chipotle getting in a bowl
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  Speaker 3: or a salad even though they're the same. Damn thing.
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  Speaker 4: We don't like Chipotle good. They're stingy on the there's
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  Speaker 4: stingy on the on the servings.
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  Speaker 2: Speak for yourself, man, Chippotle and I get along great.
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  Speaker 3: Chipotle gives you plenty of It's just that Midwestern They
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  Speaker 3: just send you up there with that. I guess maybe
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  Speaker 3: it just cracks me up. Like on their menu though,
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  Speaker 3: Like whatever, never mind, a bowl and a salad have
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  Speaker 3: the same ingredients you served in the bowl.
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  Speaker 1: You can't be bad talking to sponsors, right.
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  Speaker 2: Bowls don't come with lettuce, that's yes, they do.
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: Well, you can my bowl, you can add lettuce.
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  Speaker 3: They have the same ingredients they don't in the When
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  Speaker 3: you click bowl, it is the same drop down menu.
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  Speaker 2: Just let me tell you, I have never ordered a
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  Speaker 2: single bowl that contained lettuce leaves not one.
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  Speaker 3: Time, but it has the same options. They're all there.
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  Speaker 3: You could have picked them. You can.
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  Speaker 4: You can add lettuce to your ball. By the way, salad.
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  Speaker 3: Thist worry though they're the same price.
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  Speaker 4: Mos is better than Chipotle. I agree with this one.
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard of Pantero's.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of three of these four things.
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  Speaker 3: I never heard of.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard at those or I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I love It's literally as stupid as it looks.
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  Speaker 4: But Mo's Mexican grill. Chef's kiss man, I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: I don't well you, I don't know. If you're coming
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  Speaker 4: up to the Midwest anytime soon finds and we will go.
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  Speaker 4: Then it'll make you forget all about Chipotle.
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  Speaker 3: They are huge. I don't want to Carolina, New York.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk too much smack. But like
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  Speaker 2: anytime I hear about these Mexican grills like it. Every
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  Speaker 2: time I go to visit my family up north. This
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  Speaker 2: is in Minnesota, for for reference, they talk about like,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, let me take you to this Mexican restaurant
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  Speaker 2: or that Mexican restaurant. There's one exception that I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to say, is very good because it's run by
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  Speaker 2: a family member of mine. But every other place they've
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  Speaker 2: ever brought me is not good Mexican, Like it's just
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  Speaker 2: not so there. Maybe I'm spoiled because I live in Texas,
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  Speaker 2: but like you're supposed you.
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  Speaker 4: Live, Yeah, you live.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, I believe
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  Speaker 1: there is actually a mos closer to Ogre than there
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  Speaker 1: is any of us most southwest. Yes, I'm I'm if
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  Speaker 1: I remember correctly where you live? This is this is
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  Speaker 1: in this is in your area. Hold on, we're hopping
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  Speaker 1: on Google. This is the thing that must be what
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  Speaker 1: There's also one where Toll lives, too, so he should
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  Speaker 1: check out southwest grill.
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  Speaker 2: Hold I think there's one in my city.
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  Speaker 3: How have I never heard of.
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  Speaker 1: On the southeastern side of your city?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe go outside every now and again. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: it's it's they're really good. You should go there.
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  Speaker 3: Let us know how it is.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, in fact, will continue talking. You go to
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  Speaker 4: Mo's right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I just I tried to pull it up,
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  Speaker 2: and the image that Google Maps trys to take me
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  Speaker 2: to is a gas station that I am familiar with.
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  Speaker 4: M I see I see yah maybe one time and
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  Speaker 4: no longer is oh.
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  Speaker 2: Now according to this image, it's one of the in Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like an in gas station restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: That's weird.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever gone to an in gas
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  Speaker 4: stations what we're talking about this?
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  Speaker 2: I typed in most Southwest Grille. Yes, that's the Flying
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  Speaker 2: Jay some of these things. Whoa, that looks like garbage,
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  Speaker 2: But the rest of this looks pretty all right.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, next time you come down for us like that Friday,
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  Speaker 3: So the Friday of the cast, you need to go
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  Speaker 3: there and get something for Zach and me and then
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  Speaker 3: bring it the Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: We can have it for a hold on, before before
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  Speaker 2: we do our normal Saturday game thing. You want me
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  Speaker 2: to bring you gas station food that's a day old,
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  Speaker 2: that's been in a car ride with me for.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, then you can say.
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  Speaker 1: Stomach hopefully hopefully you can dip your fingers in there too,
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of essence of ogre.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you could maybe pick it up on the way.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how that works.
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  Speaker 1: No, hold on, you can't bad talk gas station food
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  Speaker 1: because there's I remember visiting.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but there are certain gas station quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote gas station food. BUCkies has some really good food there.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the Bucky's cheats because it's not it has
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  Speaker 2: the budget of like a Michelin restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: Well sure, but still gas station technically, all right?
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  Speaker 4: Any other the other place.
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  Speaker 3: When we were in.
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  Speaker 4: Because there's a there's a place in Minnesota that does
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  Speaker 4: nothing but crunch wrap supremes, but does it significantly better.
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  Speaker 4: And they were there in Roosevelt and they were signal
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  Speaker 4: like it was the best. Like when you ordered it,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't. We didn't quite know what we were getting
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  Speaker 4: until they brought it to you. I'm like, oh, it's
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  Speaker 4: a crunch wrap Supreme, and but it was significantly better.
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  Speaker 4: Next time I go, I'll shoot you the place. It
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  Speaker 4: was so good. It's just some little hole in the wall. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: ogre metal. I'm the one' on track and I'm doing
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  Speaker 4: a bad job.
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  Speaker 2: Is the metal line? Is it hippo pockets? Where I
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  Speaker 2: can get these trip supremes in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: I'll look it up. I'll look it up. You you
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: go over the battle line, I'll.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Got my brain like totally focused meta line So here's
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  Speaker 2: what we're gonna do this week, as he kind of
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: alluded to doing a little bit of a swap around.
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  Speaker 2: Normally you would expect to see our dear friend Zach
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  Speaker 2: on this particular segment, but he doesn't like Turbo. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: today we're talking about Turbo. I'm gonna step in and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: uh kind of cover a little bit of something. If
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  Speaker 2: you are a player who is trying to follow the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: meta and that you know was on Warrow up until
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: now or was you know, it's just looking to adapt
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: into the post robin hood reality. This is for you. Now.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I am not a top tournament placing crazy, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: twenty days games, a day grinder like that has everything
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: completely dialed in. But I have played a lot of
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Turbo and I do think that there are a couple
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: of things that you should be aware of that are
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: trickier than people give it credit for. And that is
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: this your entire game plan in Turbo, no matter what
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: are else, what else you're doing right, Like, you want
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to turn your ability on. You want to follow all
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the rules we've already laid out. You know, don't over commit,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: don't spend resources where you don't have to. The big
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: thing in Turbo is your havens. You will win games
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: where you get value out of haven and you will
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: lose most of your games that you don't see your havens.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: It's just how it is. It's how the deck functions.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's an important part of the equation, and part of
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that is knowing how and when to play your havens.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It is very tempting as a player, particularly if you're
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: new to the deck and you're just trying to get
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to grips with it. You're going to have situations where,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: let's let's paint a picture. We are third turn. Third
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: turn is when everybody has five.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Mana, right, ye, most people have five mana.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So we're third turn. You just put your card down
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: from your hand. You've got five mana. You have let's say,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: like a tasty salvager sitting in your reserve ready for
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you to spend one and draw you a card, or
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: maybe there's a tinker bell in there. Let's say it's
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: tinker bell. A lot of people that are new to Turbo,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: when they see that they draw that turbo or that
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: that haven that turn, the first thing that they're going
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to want to do, the first card that they're going
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to want to play is that haven almost every time
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: because obviously you want all those boosts to go on
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: your characters.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: The thing is, if you lead, if you start a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: turn with a haven like fresh, both players have all
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: their man out, you're making the other player's decision extremely
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: noncommittal if they're going to remove your haven or not,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: because they can pay their three after you've just paid
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: your two. They're going to kill it. And now they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: still get to watch you play your first character to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the board before they have to play one, so they
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: still get the opportunity to react and play a two
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: drop that you know lets them sneak a lane after
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: trading their three cost removal that does not matter near
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: as much to their deck as your haven matters to yours.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: This this timing of like knowing when to actually send
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the haven out from hands so that you can at
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: least make it expensive for them to remove it, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: not necessarily expensive in terms of like you're actually increasing
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the cost de besive in terms of processing power to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: know like, Okay, if I remove this now, I am
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: leaving myself open to them getting a double advanced and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: leaving myself open to them doing something that's going to
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: get them momentum even though they're losing their Haven. The
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: other thing that that timing will do is, even if
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: they don't have the removal for the haven itself, if
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you start your turn with Haven, you now pass turnover
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to them any sabotage effects they have in your hand,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: have an opportunity to kill whatever you just brought from
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: your deck into reserve for you get a chance to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: respond to it. That's important because again, what happens when
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you flop haven with your haven. If they're able to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: just sabotage it out of a reserve, it really hurts.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: If they get your your salvager, if they get your Aida,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: if they get your chronicler, whatever anything that you're just anytime,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you're just giving them the opportunity to trash that resource
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: before you get a chance to use it. That's lost
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: value for you. So one of the things that I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: really like to do is I will delay my Haven
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: play until after the first card that I've played on
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a turn, because a lot of people will see that
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and think, Okay, if you had the Haven, he'd have
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: played it because he wants the boost counter, right. They
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: assume the same thing that you do, and so a
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: lot of times they'll play like you know their they're
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Baba Yaga or whatever, something that puts them below the thresholder.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: So there, if you play an axiom of the salvager
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: for say a one drop, they are more likely to
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: play a three drop on the other side to take
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the line from the accidum salvager or something.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could bait it out and what that lets
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you do it particularly like great example, I played a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: game to warm up before the cast, and this was
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: actually turned two, so I don't know it was turned three. Yeah,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: five minute. So I was playing into an a Faunas
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and they had a categiar mage dancer and then off
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you go. In reserve, I had in my hand my
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Haven and a Kellen Elemental, and in reserve I had
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: tinker Bell. I could have played my Haven, got my
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I had the initiative, got my resupply with it, made
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: decisions about what I wanted to play from from there,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: but instead I led with the tinker Bell, took the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: categiar major dancer out, knowing that it's a faunas and
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like they they need bodies right let him. Then I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: think I can't remember what he played exactly but he
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: played something else after that, and it was enough to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: take him down below that. You know, three mana watermark
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that you have to be concerned about. I then fluffed
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: my haven. The creature that he played or the character
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that he played. Sorry, was wasn't enough to contest my
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: tinker belt in the first place. I got my haven
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: on the board. I'm telling this story so wrong. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: didn't have initiative. He had an initiative. What I'm trying
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to get at is that I got to end my
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: turn by playing my haven, getting my resupply, and then
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: moving into the next round. I get to open with
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: my haven on the board. I get to use the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: resupply whatever it is, like whatever whatever that card that flops,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what I got off of it before
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: he gets a chance to remove it, and I didn't
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: give him like a free removal opportunity momentum wise on
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: my haven. Sorry, that got super convoluted. I'm trying to
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like structure my thoughts and remember exactly how the game
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: went and things broke down.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: It's part of the complexity of the game. There's a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: lot moral.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Of the story. We kind of said in one of
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the other segments that I think. When I was covering
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: for Dexterra on Why Suck It Altered, I talked about
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: doing the math before you start playing your cards and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: making decisions. Even though the temptation will be so strong
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to get your Haven in play and get every single
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: boost counter that you can, like possibly juice out of it,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of times you don't. On the turns where
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you're like establishing yourself and you're first playing your Haven,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna need a boost counter on every single
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: one of your characters in order to win a lane.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: And all you need to do the first few turns
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: as Turbo, assuming you're not playing into WARU, is win
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: one lane. Because then after you get your reserve stocked
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and you get a Haven in play, you have so
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: many opportunities to take double advances from that point forward
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that you just have to like give yourself the solid
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: foundation to then leverage those to win the game. You
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: don't need to play your Salvager, your Star Gazer, all
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: your like Amelia Earhart like all on a single turn
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: when you play your Haven. Just slow roll it a
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: little bit. Don't don't make it easy on the other guy.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I promise you you'll have like so much more impactful
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: turns after that. Even and even if on your next
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: turn you play a card and then they play their
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: removal and kill your Haven, you still came out on
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: top because you didn't let them get to your resupply
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: before you could do anything about it. You've got a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: counter out of hate. You now aren't down the manna
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: that you paid to play Haven that turn, whereas they
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: are down the manna that they paid to remove Haven.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: And you've got a body on the board, so you're
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you're coming up bases all the way across. Hopefully that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: makes sense. I'm feeling a little bit like I got you.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I got you. Basically it is. The Haven is your Winkne,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: but you still have to be mindful of how and
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: when you're playing it. You didn't cover this bar, but
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: there are potential turns where you have Haven on day
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: three with five minut that you might not play at
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: that turn, just depending on where you're at in your
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: turber of status. Getting your turber tuned on earlier is
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: more important if you have a different line that would
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: take you to five that turn versus playing Haven. Mm hmm,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: because getting that extra card Doral is more valuable than
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: just having your asset out.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: There, and sometimes you just sometimes there's a very clear
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: scenario where like same game, this is before I had
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: my haven. My opening hand for this game was nuts,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: so I had a bunch of junk, but I had
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: two salvagers and I had an eight to right. So
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I went into turn one three rare cards in hand,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: too to one costs and a two cost all of
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: which are gonna help me turn on my ability and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: generate card advantage. I play my one, play my two.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: The next turn, I draw Kell and Elemental and Frank.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Now when I play that Kell and Elemental, I could
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: put the other salvager that was in my hand into
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: reserve and then play two salvagers from reserve, getting like
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: additional resupplies to like churn through and look for haven faster.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: What I chose to do was play Mike Kellen sent
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Frank to reserve even though I didn't have a haven yet,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and I played Frank into the other lane, and I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: was able to take a double advance that second turn
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: because Frank, even without anything else, was a two costs
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: three to three and particularly into a faunas he wasn't
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: doing anything. Second turn that was going to let him
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: contest two three stat bodies, one in each lane. He
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: just couldn't do anything about it unless he had drawn
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I guess, like Beauty Sleep or something right. But then
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: if he does that, I roll into the next round
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: with it and I can take my double advance then.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So sometimes, like sometimes you do have to steer away
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: from your main win con, which is turning on your
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: ability and getting your haven in order to take those
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: moments that present themselves that are just like a very
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: easy strategic expedition advance. You know, I agree, Zach, did
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: we lose you? None of that had the word bureaucrat
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: in it, So you tuned me out pretty quickly, didn't you.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: No, I will say when I did try the two
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: or three test runs with Traced, I did fall into
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that trap and played my haven's too early and they
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: were immediately blown up before any kind of remote value
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that I got out of it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: And uh that that sucked.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: That really, that really felt bad, and it probably made
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a lasting scar on me for play Trace it legitimately,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like it's backbreaking.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any other character in the game,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a hero in the game right now, because like Turbo
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: is undisputably good, right, Yeah, Zack is good.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: It was good even when Warrow was kicked. It's just
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: the fact that playing into Warrow with trace back then
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: because it was miserable.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any other character, any other
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: hero that is as dependent on a singular card though
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: as Turbo is, Like.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Nope, I can't name one. Well, because even Water is
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: still good now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I was gonna say, you can't say Wardo
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: because there's still a lot of good bureaucrats that he
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: could play.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeahol is pretty pretty wide, Like there's definitely some spikes
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: here and there, but it's it's it's a pretty big toolbox.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Right, There's like three o's that other heroes will always have.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: But like whether they see them in the game maining
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: that they're going to win that game or not is
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: not not like that. It is it's specifically traced right
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: now with that Haven.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're your value, Like the numbers that you generate
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: are so dependent on Haven that even like having a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: bunch of card advantage and being able to play a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: whole bunch of cards is awesome, sure, but like when
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: you're paying fair values for stats, you cannot compete with
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: everybody else who is not paying that same rate, right,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: like everybody else has a way to sort of cheat
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: larger cost bodies into play or like their faction just
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: like Bravos. Right, their bodies are big and they have ramp. Yeah, exactly.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You You don't have that an axiom. Your your stuff
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: is mostly fair costed, and in order to get like
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the the things where you actually do pay a discounted
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: rate for better stats, you're sacrificing a play of the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: cart a lot of the time. Like Amelia Earhart, you're
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: never going to play from hand almost ever, almost ever,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: so you're only ever going to send her a reserve
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and then pay for one.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: From Yeah, half of regard off for a lot of
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: your stuff too.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that all like adds up over time.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: This has been my ted talk, the only time I've
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: done that. A livey.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining, so continue to switch it up.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Who we have next?
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Let's see we got well, we said we were skipping.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Why I suck it altered? But now I see Zach no.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: No, we're yeah, yeah, Dexter was going to be here,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: but he had some family.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Well he's taking he's spending so much needed time with
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: his very lovely mother. I forget her name, but hi,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Dexter's mom. We miss you. But Zach, What's what's why?
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Why do you suck it altered?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: This has been the recurring theme. I feel like, but
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: z has put and here play the game rust and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I put sad face. Right now, I'm sucking because I
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: even when I did so. I did play in our
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Ace season two uh inaugural match lineup Tuesday, and I
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was playing Warru our R I p Robin deck and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it does okay, but it just I don't know it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't have the same luster. It just feels
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: like it's still lacking something. And so right now I'm
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: just kind of stuck in between.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to play it with like the same
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I want to play.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Well that's and that's unfair, right so.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Wow, you got to pay the same rules and now
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I can't win.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not crying about it, but it's it is
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like it's it. I haven't been plane because I haven't
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: found a new deck that I have been enjoyed to play.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at right now. That's why I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: second altered.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Because it doesn't know what to do.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It's okay, we're just pick a get together buddy, I
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: mean is still yeah, don't change color.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Stick let's stick with the bureaucrat.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: It's not a problem. But like one of the big
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: things that like Zee and I have talked about brought
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: up is like our uniques are just not as good
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: as other uniques that we're going to run up against. Right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: And I could still I could still play my ass
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: off and still play all the right plays, but.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You still getting back to the why you suck part,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: you still have to play more.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Definitely some bad lines there.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Bro I didn't like even if he did shake the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: rest off, right, like knowing that with the effort that
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you would put in to get back on top of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the work plays, you would still be at a disadvantage
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: due to that.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Like that, Like, yeah, the whole the whole idea of
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: this game is like having those crazy uniques that will
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: pop out, you know what I mean, It's just ours
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: are not up the Streetunately.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: We have like one point seventy five in Bravos, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: outside of Bravos, I guess we have one really good
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: it's like the one then one, Yeah, the Sandman yeah, yeah,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: that one was.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And that's an interesting spot to be in, right because
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: like orders, uniques are so good.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Well, the last the last breaks that we've done, we
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: have opened a zero yeah zero, we did.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you, we did open a whole bunch
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: of ship purple. Yeah, you just were raking it in,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: like eating that up. Raking in in is a strong term.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I I definitely walk away with more uniques than anybody else.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I walked away with around the same number of playable uniques.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I'll say, I feel like it's one A one b here,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Zach like I, so we've done. I don't know how
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: many we've done. I've gotten one.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I know one, Like I said, we've we've opened zero.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Bell.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I'm to the point where I almost convinced that Lyra
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: uniques they just don't exist.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: That I don't know what it is about the the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: faction breaks in this crew, but like they're just extremely
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: kind to me. I guarantee you that my own boxes
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that I purchased before all this, that I opened by myself,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: none of them, none of them gave me so many
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: uniques in the colors that I actually cared about. So
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: then when we we you know, started doing this, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: we started saying, Okay, I'm gonna open you know this,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: this color of faction all goes to one person. This
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: is what we're talking about with the faction. The fact
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: that so many of them and the ones that we
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: have done have sent uniques my way was extremely mind
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: blowing for me. And then it just kept happening, like
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I think three in a row. I walked away with
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: at least two uniques every time, and then this most
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: recent one with the gold pack included, there was a
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: bunch of them that came my way. Equally funny is
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: that all the uniques that came my way, two of
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: them are good, two to three of them are playable,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: which is still like, this is not me. Just for
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the record, Wookie, I still feel your pain, and now
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that I am mostly complete, I hope that my luck
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: rolls to you and Zach. But I if I were
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: a Blue player and the luck had rolled my way
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: and I had gotten all those unique I bet I
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: would have gotten some like megabusted Blues. I mean yes,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: like I said, I'm in the world of just believing
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: that Lyra uniques don't exist. They happened a little dry
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in the in.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: A little dry, A lot dry.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I was trying to be good.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: A little A little dry would be called. I mean,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: so what we we pulled one and it was a
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: robin Hood of all things.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Like out They're like, yeah, you got one, and then
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: everyone starts giggling and I'm like, wait, what, how bad
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: was it? And they're like, well, actually it's playable, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, why are we all laughing? It was
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: a robin Hood. No, I don't believe you, sure enough.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It was really funny when when Zach opened it, because
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the way that he does it, like season before we
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: do right right, So we just hear him start giggling
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. We have no context for why, and
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: he says like, oh, well, Wookie got one, and then
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: he slowly slides robin to frame.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Like it was like a double kick. It was like, oh,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: like six weeks. Can we go back six weeks and
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: make sure that never happened? No? No, okay, because I
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: feel like that card's busted. If this is like pre nerf.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: No okay, I mean that's We're ever gonna be a
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: thing like when people open Robinhood there and be.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Like wa wa yeah, it was. It's but like, I'm
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: literally out of all this now. I don't. I don't
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: have a local scene like you guys have, So I
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: don't get the cool nifty tournament packs, right, but man,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I only have one other Lyra unique and it's like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: do they exist in this faction? I don't. I'm not
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: sure they do.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: My luck balance is out on that front though, Like
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I get all these uniques from the faction breaks, but
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: when when I do make the drive out to Houston
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: for the for the thing, like, I haven't opened a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: unique out of a out of a promo pack, yet
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I keep getting the the promo heroes.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess you would some you lose some, It's true.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: So eh, And that's supposed to be like fifty to fifty.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, isn't it like forty a forty of opening
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a unique, you have a sixty percent of opening a
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: promo character. And I don't know like promo characters are cool?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I guess I personally like to have the text for
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the ability on the card so that if a new
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: player is sitting across from me, like there, they don't
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: have to wonder. And I don't care about the aesthetic
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: of the full art as much. So they kind of
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: feel like a whiff when they happen. But maybe one day,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: like it'll be sitting in my binder and you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: three years down the road, nobody has access to them
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and I can trade one for a unique that's cool,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and then it'll all come out in the wash.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably that's probably what will happen. But where are
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: we at? Are we onto marketplace?
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: All right, my marketplace here.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the last time we opened this,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: like we probably should be. I mean, just for remembering
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: sake is putting in the prices that we're seeing into
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: our marketplace sheet. Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Job congrad all right, all right, all right, so we
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: also need you to look handsome.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So two jobs, got it?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Last week we had a little I believe we had
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: a little dipping price because of the Black Friday sales.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Right this week, beyond the gates Kickstarter edition, the cheapest
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: I'm finding I did find one here for one forty.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: That is the cheapest I am finding that is on
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: eBay over at max Valley Games.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Got ks is pretty low.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Though, otherwise you can't get it from our friends over
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: at gamer Guild a zy for one six. That's that's
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: what it was last week, I think, Yeah, it was
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: the same last week for gamer Guild. They've been around
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: the one fifty mark.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was one fifty for the for
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: the Black Friday sale.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Quick.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: We kind of all thought like, oh, maybe this is
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: a Black Friday thing, but it's it's I just clicked
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: on it. It's still there. You can you can buy
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: it one ninety ninety six, which a little strange, but
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: onety nine you can get yourself a box.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: They still have quite a few boxes.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I was looking at it earlier this week in their warehouse.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then this one up just ever so slightly.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: The just regular old display boxtop display version ninety one
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: to twelve kind of again another weird price, but I
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: believe it was eighty nine ninety nine last week is
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: where we found it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: So it's I've been right around that like eighty four
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: eighty four to ninety dollars range.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Or if you're real now, I didn't do the math
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: on this one. Maybe I should do it before I
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: get crazy, because you could also purchase it buy the
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: case from gamers Guild. There's six to a case yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: and you get you get yourself a little bit of
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: a discount one forty two. If you buy the whole
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: case per box, it's eighty five eight fifty four seventy
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: seven if you're interested. But check outs guild not a.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Spot there like a whole case at once.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: But they should be. I've I've boughten cases of other
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: card games before. I'm sure Z has as well.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I've never done it, maybe one day.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I remember buying case cases for Lesh and Blood and
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: always being really upset afterwards. But anyway, maybe that's kind.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I just remember opening displays they were selling them. It
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: was like buy the light Well, no, you could buy
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: it by the box.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: But like I bought way too many cases of The
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Dead Game, so I definitely did that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's funny. I usually wind up like over
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: the course of you know, insert x period of time.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: If I am involved in a game, I probably spend
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: an equivalent amount of money, but it's like all spread
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: out over yeah, next year or two years or whatever
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: makes it feel better at that point that like going
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: all in all at once, and uh, I don't know,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: it's it's always been so hard for me to pull
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the trigger on it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of money all at once. I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: I say, who this is?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: But you know, and I'm so terrible at car flipping,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Like the the process of going out and like seeking
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: buyers out and doing that whole thing is so unappealing
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: that like most of the time when I do over buy,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I don't have that secondary like car sales sort.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Of cary case. I'm cracking that bitch, all of it,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: every last one. Yeah, and I can't. I can't do
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: the whole flipping thing. I'm I'm open. This is why
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I don't buy cases, because I know what's going to
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: happen next be like, yeah, I'm but a flipping for
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: a profit. And then before you know what, they're all open.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: You're like, shit, I have nothing.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Yep, that would be me.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds about right.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So all right, I'm pretty patient.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: You are extraordinarily patients. Some of us need our cardboard
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: crack a little more readily available than others. Anyways, events
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: going on right now, we do have packs going on.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Make sure you follow us over on Twitter. Cole is
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: uploading some pictures. I'm sure he'll give us the whole
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: four one one once he gets back about guests about
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: the convention. It looks like it is going quite well.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Don't have to guess about what next week's episodes can
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: be about. Yes, and then we got ACE still going on, right, Yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: we had a Week one of our second season pop
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: off this week, Yes, which hero one at all? Wookie
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: then No, No, I know you aren't there and you
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: don't pay attention to anything in the chat.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: So I do, but I'm kind of all over the
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: place lately.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Waw WAW won the day stat wise, That's all I did. Zach,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: did you do anything with the stats?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't know this.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, don't play the game. Don't take stats,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: really show up what the I know.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It was disappointing for myself.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Exact the finals were it was. It was wor sicky right,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: so like we had an all an a final for
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: the first time in a while.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: We'll get some shoutouts though our We had a lot
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: of I think the coolest thing about Week two for
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Week one for season two is we had a lot
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: of first time ACE inventters come out, so that was
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: really cool to see. We had after people dropped or whatever,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: we had thirty nine active players start and play games
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: and our winner was All of the Marbles in runner
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: up was Garro. Oh so welcome to ACE and you
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: have punched your ticket, I think are. We had some
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: changes for season two. They now start at six thirty.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: We're gonna run six weeks of eventing to earn spots,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: and our final championship tournament is going to be thirty
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: two people instead of sixteen. The winners will still get
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: a retail box, so first place can get twelve booster packs,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: second place will get eight. That's the overall winners at
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: the very end. So this is free to play in
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: every Tuesday, six thirty pm Central time. Come on out,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: hang out, see what's winning and what's not.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: It's a good time and it's not as much of
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: a commitment.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, single lim It was super fast for this week.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Wow, wow it was so it was bad.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I brought all, I brought Turbo back out and uh
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I in my first game, the Show in the Door,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't see a single Haven across the entire game
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: and what not to Oh god, I was so focused
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: on not having my haven. I don't even remember who
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I played into.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I will look got you you played?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: It was a green oh exam is into at Asia.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I I got dragoned, Oh no, not the dragon. I
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: got dragoned and I didn't have UH. I didn't have
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: haven and I didn't have UH. I couldn't get a
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: hold of a boom to clear the dragon, so I
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: couldn't get the tools, and the other player did everything
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: that they needed to to capitalize on that.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm sorry it was we we that beat you.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, A Wall is still a thing that is also
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: going on, right.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have they have two things going on and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: every week they have the normal Western based, US based
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Wednesday evenings that they do, and they also have a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Monday European focused that they also do and still turn
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: it out forty fifty plus. It's good to see.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: And then our boy kaelon Guy he is running something
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: is that And I know you were saying it's like, right,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: is it right before a wall or right before Ace?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: It's right before Ace because he's in over in Europe.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: He's running a bi weekly event through BGA. Looks like
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: this last week he had forty eight players sign up,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: so still still look good.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: What style is that? Like? I literally know nothing about
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: this event?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It is it's Swiss six rounds of Swiss, So it's
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: like the.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: A Wall but on Tuesdays and earlier. Yeah, yeah, that
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: was like, lookie, if you're off, you could actually play
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: in that. Aren't you off Tuesdays?
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I am off Tuesdays. Yes, I do participate in another
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: function that happens right around.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: That same earlier in the days.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: What we just said, Yeah, it's like it's like two
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: PM or something like.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: That, because it's it's a European person, so like their
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: PM is going to be your Like.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Uh, it would be one o'clock.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: One o'clock is when you got even even earlier than
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I thought one o'clock.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: H yeah, it might work for me. Yeah, it should
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: all be over by five or whatever.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can always pull an oger in just
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one day I'm going to make it past
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: round one and then you guys are all going to
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: have to eat crumb.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah one day, that's not today.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Last season you made it past you made two every.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Time, two or three.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: But I I never got into the like the big
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: important player range like some people.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I was knocked out by the winner. So if I
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: like by after knocking Zach out the winner of the
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: whole damn thing did beat me. So that did. That
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: did help salve the wound. After I lost that, I
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: had one really bad turn where I got double pushed
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: and I lost right there. It's like I lost because
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: of this turn. Sometimes the draw is just real bad. True, yep.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you just can't beat arn Jesus right. Sometimes take
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: that I did.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: It was like, there's so many cards I could have
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: drawn into that would have like entirely changed that turn,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: and I just didn't have any of them.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I was just the man.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: The numbers were real bad that turn. No matter what,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I was going to play one card to be done
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: and I got double pushed. I was like I lost
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: the game right now this turn.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always a bummer. I hate that, but you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: you win again, you win some, you lose some. Let's
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: see where was I and that's it. Yeah, we got
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: packs going on right now. We'll get that information coming
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: into later tenth episode Top ten Heroes.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, y'all believe that this is our tenth episodes? Q.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, I did not because not everyone has been
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: here all ten episodes except for me. O no o no,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I have not been here.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I believe you are the only one I was gone
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: for one in November, I was gone for two.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just goes to show I've got nothing.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: This is the first could every time I feel like it,
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: I think exactly, I think exactly. It's like the one
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: constant face.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting, I think I think he's correct. Yeah, because
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: he's he's either.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: That all that all shook down, noble reliable, right is
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: the noble one?
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was all excited beginning when he didn't actually
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: have to play the game to win, and now he's like.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now he has to play to win, and he's
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: like he has gone from the metal line to the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: lie suck it altered.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: The line that is a drop and.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: The band hammered there.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Nurse my nuts right off like a right.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, So here is our next block. So in honor
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: of our tenth episode, we're gonna make a top ten
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: heroes live here. This hasn't been like prep We talked
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: about these ears all the time. So to make it
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: go a little faster though, we're just gonna do top
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: to bottom. And I have all eighteen heroes listed in
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: the on our sheet. And when it's your turn, you're
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: just gonna eliminate a hero first. That's gonna take it
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: from Okay, let's little one hero.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: All raight?
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, all rock? Does anyone object to
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: them thinking that what a rock would be in their
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: top ten?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of low hanging fruits.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Come on, all right?
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Iraq is gone Ogre, it's Sadi kill a hero. Sadi
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: is gone. So we're down to sixty heroes. What can
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: you like the heroes?
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Are you you're not live updating this?
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Are you?
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I don't see it? No?
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Is he deleted? Are you just deleting them?
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: He's just deleting them? Okay, I'll take.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Who would you say if Cole is here, he would
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: say something? But you know what, pol Y.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Ain't here, and he's wrong. As much as I love Novenka,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I want it to be I want it so bad,
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: it's just just not consistent enough.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: We're doing here, yeah, and we are doing this for
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: like oh I mean right now?
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, So okay, fine, I'll take the Sira, the Sierra.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I'm agree with that.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: The Venka might end up hitting top Does it hit
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: top ten? Hold on? Now I gotta count. We'll take
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: that one.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Are you taking Zee?
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: All right? What's lap? We got trace? Teja too, gosh,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: oh Sierra. Yeah, in fact, that made it for I'm
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: taking it. Argent Argein's gone.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Hanging fruit yeap, yep, yep.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: So that's so. Now we're down to fourteen. I think
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: that we can eliminate scream more. All right, So just
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: this will just be a pop gorgeous tell me and
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: we'll see if anyone objects.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: It's gotta go yep, all right, yeah.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Like if if THEIOU is my thing. Like when I
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: first read here, before I do anything off the game,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: I knew there was unique cards. I assumed there would
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: be unique permanence when I read this hero, and then
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: when I learned there weren't unique permanent I was like,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: without knowing the card pool, I was like, there's just
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: like no way this card is good. This is a
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: shit hero. And you know what, it's a shit hero,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: like it just doesn't have any support for what else
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: to do, Like everything it can do that's interesting, Subash
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: or Turbo dude, just do better. Yeah, all right, any
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: other low hanging fruits in here.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I would be very happy to see, well, very happy.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I would not contest Wren Lindaway or gul Rang like
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: any of those getting dropped at this phase feels like
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Wren and.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Gull Ring for sure, I would agree with.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Because Wren is basically mechanically like a Tsadi and gul
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Rang just good enough compared to each other. Two just
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: never play that And having played all three purple heroes
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: actually quite a bit, I gotta get rid of Lindy.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: The only scenario where Lindy is good is relying on
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: three very hard to get uniques. And that's more like
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: that's a pocketbook thing. If you have eight hundred dollars
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: to go buy three of those that have a two
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: to one cost five great, then you have a serviceable
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: deck that could possibly get you to a day tube
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: and still not win. That's what you spend one hundred
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: dollars on.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was ten, right? There is that ten?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's ten six seven, ten, all right, so now
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: that is ten. So we haven't racked them yet, but
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: we have ten. Now the question is Wookie said Bassira
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: and Novenka or those got named aca better than any
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: of these guys where we have Warro, Trace, Teja, zubosh Iggy.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's still in there. I was gonna say,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: how did Nevenka.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Still because I think I think Novenka and Basira are
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: kind of on the line right, and one of them
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: was going to creep into the top ten here. I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: don't hate it being Nevenka instead of the Sira.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I think, I think has got to be in there too,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: So like between, there's the debate.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, wait, what did you just say.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Better than.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's like a half step it's a half step.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Ahead, but it also has the possibility to just be
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: utter dog water to like you're you're I go on
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: one or the other, and it's like, I don't think
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: it's consistent enough to really.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's if it is top, it's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: like ten eleven, it's it's very bottom.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: And the people that like play a really good Nevanca
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: that you see putting up numbers and stuff, those people
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: would also if they played the better hero Finn put
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: up good numbers.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: All doubt Jet, but it would have been fun if
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: you was. I think, I like this where we're at then,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: and Bassira bites it, so.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's a tough one, but like name, every time
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: you see a really like a good Bravos player in events.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Right now, they're not running Basierra they're running Kojo, and I.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Don't know my issue when I talked about the Kojo line, right, Like,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: just having an extra body every other turn is a
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: better boost value as a target for like physical screening
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: or whatever than having the conditional boost up thing unless
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: all three of your niqus are.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Like if you boost you x now, I will say,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I think you could convince like the bottom of this
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: tenth place really the ninth and tenth place, Subash, Novenka
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: and Bessira fighting over it. I am not going to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: have strong feelings about the arrangement of any of the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: three and nine, ten and eleven, Like I think it's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: where they go, but I don't have a strong feeling
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: about who takes which of those spots.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: All right, So now we have our tenth place. So
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: at tenth place, I think Subash Novenka, uh Kesha aha cool?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Are I gotta be here?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I honestly think Akesha is tenth here mm hmmm because
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: it's not hard to beat it, but like it deserves
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: a spot here because of what it can do. Yeah,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: it does change how you have to play against it.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: That's fair. I think I'm gonna have to stick with
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: my like I don't have strong feelings. I'll just increase
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: my range to eight and say any way that you
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: want to slot Subash, but Sira, Akesha and Novenka in
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: those in that range I'm comfortable with.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I would actually just prefer we do like this is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: our bottom five, and then rank the top five, because
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: that might be.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: That might be easier, honestly, because I feel like the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: marginal difference.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It's relevant. They're close enough to the top six.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: So you're saying there's four, I'm easy easy.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: To do that.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Likenka goes to the bottom.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Akesha, Yeah, in no particular. Yeah, then Polkicon make a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: wonderful graphic and littered the tools or whatever. There's another
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: cook who's the fourth one?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Isa Akesha? And is it is it? Is it Tasa
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: or is.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: It just bottom three? I think it's just bottom three.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: It might just be bottom three, well, because like you're
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: not gonna rank Tasa above any of these other ones,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: uh me, are you?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: We gotta fight about it, right like, okay, Akesha is
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: gone already rank that, So I think it's the only
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: one that's clear clut are those bottom three Akeshaveca and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: subas are clearly worse than the rest of the seventh.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I would agree.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: So at our top our current top seven that we
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: have yet yet ranked our Warrow Trace, Taja, Ziggy, Kojo,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Fenn and as.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: This was easier four weeks ago.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, war number one. Everyone else has tied bottom ten.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: It was war in first spot, and then people that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: had like rank the most or excuse me, ranked the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: least painful matchup into Warrior, like in descending order, and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: everybody hated to play into him. So you just kind
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: of had to find who suffered the worst, and they
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: tripped further down the list.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, So as the Kojo player here, I played Kojo
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: a lot, and I've played fed a lot, and I've
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: played Tajo a lot. You can just say you can
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: just say that you play a lot, like.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I really do you think.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: The lowest ranking of the seven is either Tojo or Taja,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: And it might be Kojo.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I I don't know.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: If I can get with that data would say that
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Taja is seventh. If I pull data the win record
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: for Tasa across all events that I've seen, the mini
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: games that I've played in tract, TAJA's win rate is
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: not good.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like Taja is really like represented though too.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: It is one of the most played and least winning
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: as heroes as far as.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: So, I think you can put that at seven.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: She's she's kind of like she has great games. You like,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: you will watch some Taja games where it feels like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: the other player just never.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: Had a doesn't have a chance, but.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: It's You could say the same thing for Turbo, right,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Like you'll watch a Turbo game where it feels like
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: the other person never had a chance, but there was
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of those games are achieved.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Is a lot lower for Teja. I would say, like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: before the Robin Hood Nerve, there were multiple Tation decks
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: that just womped all over the war Roow deck that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: I played like handily down like Elio, he stomped all
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: over me and the last week leading up to Season
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: one ACE finales and then I was originally paired into him.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's gonna suck like early out
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: for me. But I think it was also just a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: very good player, absolutely absolutely, But like he his deck
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: was tweaked enough to where it was low cost strong
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: units and just they just stayed and they stayed and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: they stayed, and I was like, I can't, I couldn't
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: find any removal or yeah, he's played.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Elliot's played a lot of games. I think he's had
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to kind of like z frequently likes to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: yell at the rest of us about sharpening the blade
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and Elios Eliot's put in the time at the Grindstone.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Zags, go find his blade. You like lost it?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it cut me.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Jack, Zach and I both have like those you know,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: those nerve swords you can get off the racket target.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: That's what we're swinging.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Baby. They're out there with lar.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: Or some off brand foam.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Brand. We're having a good time. Soft foam. It's it's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: soft foam or nothing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Oh lord, okay, plastic swords made out of legos.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good about this. Like Kojo six tages,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you think off on us five for.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: The rest of those, Yes, out of these five, yeah,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: because of of if you're opponus knows how to play
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: well against, this is definitely fifth. If they understand how
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: their ramp works like that, not the actual manner rat,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: but they're like the curve on how their people spike,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: because like Turbo is just playing a whole bunch of
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: dudes at high power. Athanas is playing one dude at
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: high power. So if you notice Savior team or trains,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: save your keelon bursts see cloth Cocoon for that final
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: push where they're going to win the second to last lane.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: Because all they need to do is get next to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: each other, it's easy to stop that.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of the good Faunas players
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: are doing that though. I think that's the mean build,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: like where you go really hard on like a like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: a mage dancer or whatever, and you stack one number large.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I think the ones that are doing well are playing
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: a variety of smaller cost bodies and spreading that stat
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: buff out using the very.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: They kind of try to. But they don't have that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: many characters period because they have to have so many
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: spells in the deck.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they do have like compared to anybody that's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: not Muna, right, they have they run more anchored and
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: fleeting removal than anybody that's not Muna and Bravos. So
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: they have fewer characters, but they're often preserving those characters
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: using things that are like bouncing reserve cards back to
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: their hand, things that like they it feels like they
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: have additional reserve slots almost because of how many cards
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: they bounce back to hand and how frequently they are
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: able to get like three or four plays off of
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: a card. I not disagreeing that.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I think that like Flam does work that card is,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: so that does help their situation up quite Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, honestly, like some of the scary,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: if honest players, I think are what's making my brain
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: sort of want to place in a little bit higher.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: But that's not fair.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's that's judging the character off of some of the
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: like the killers that are out there in the pool.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And again, like those players are making it maybe seem
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: slightly better even than it is. But I do think
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: if honest is he's he's on the come up.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: I could argue that he could be four or five,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: but I think right now I would have him at five.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I think he's at five. And then you have Waru
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: SIGGI three four. Really I feel like those two are
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: very close together.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Actually have I was gonna say, I put I put
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: fennit four fit for.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: You actually experienced the reason why I have fitted for
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: right now it is the next three we're going to
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: talk about other the like Siggi and Warrow we have
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: not named yet, so obviously they're going to be in
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: the top three. Warro Ortis has Balker's unique that was
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: literally a unique of the week this week, not even
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: a specific card, just a trade. The fact that that
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: trait exists in that in blue all over the place
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: in blue gives them a ton of options there. Then
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: you like, Lira uniques are very hard to find, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: none of them and none of them spike like blue.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: None of them spike even like green or red like
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: the best. The best Lira uniques in the game for
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Lira are actually for Novenka, because there are really cool
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: uniques that say every time you roll, do a thing,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: which is kind of super fun. But Novenka is our
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: ninth ranked person or bottom three, so if if it
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: adds something to that, there are some uniques that say
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: like win a card, leaves or observe do X, but
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of that trait is printed on a very
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: expensive body, so they lose value just because you don't
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: want to play that as much.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have sort of a personal and that I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: always rank Fenn higher, maybe even that she deserves because
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: after after the war NERF. Like Fenn and Waroo were
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: my bookie people, like consistently they were the ones that
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I had the worst games into and now with the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Warrior NERF, they just kind of flopped. Like Warrior is
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: still painful as Turbo even with that robin hood it is,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: But like Fens destroy me. And I don't know if
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: it's my my deck specifically, is is at a disadvantage
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: or me as a player, Like it's so hard for
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: me to track all of the lines that Fenn has
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: at any given point in time, and.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: They did anyone on any Givens, like to be honest
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: with you, because I feel like Fenna's jack of all trades,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: master of none, but it has answers to every other deck.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot of Strangely, there's a lot
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: of consistency there, like that additional like the free resupply
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: and the fact that every Fen that's good is running
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: alo Vera on top of it. They just they've always
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: got gas.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Well, my issue always is the scaling of the game
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: as far as uniqus are considered, Like, yeah, every single
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: day more uniques are opened, Like we had this Sinky Forge.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: It's a thing like every open, if more uniques are opened,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: all the other people that are able to find their
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: uniques regularly, like they know what to look for, they
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: know the impact it has on the deck, where like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: Fenn is a weird deck to play, it's weird deck
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: to get uniques for. And it's like like Turbo, like
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: what you're you're looking for something that's not necessarily like
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: eye openingly good. It's just good for what you're doing
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: because its.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Hard deck to play, because you're you're playing more, you're
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: playing your opponent more than you're playing a game plan. Yeah,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: you have to be very adaptive, like you have to
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: you have to adapt, like every back you play, you're
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: gonna play differently, and like you're just hoping that they're
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: playing the metal line because if they kind of go
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: something crazy outward, like you're kind of like, oh shit,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: I wasn't saying I didn't see that coming.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: I think if part of our argument though, is that
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Finn ranks lower because of the like the lower ceiling
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: for like unique opportunities for her that impacts Turbo just
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: as hard, and Turbo is spikier than Finn but less
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: consistent than Finn, like Turbo spikes higher than Finn, no doubt, unquestionable.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: But Fenn's like economic engine is built in. She doesn't
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: have to work for it, and she she can't have
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: games where it fails Turbo does.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: That's why I would have put Fed higher. But I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: thought more to three range these saying five, six, five
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: or six.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Finn was actually winning more during the robinhood ages, because
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: like that was a potential answer because of the way
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: you could use the festival there. Ben has been winning
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: way less in the current environment, and I think it's
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: entirely because of the next three.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: I think you're rock. I don't think Waru's still on top.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: Are we not ranked these well?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: No, no, I don't actually have a rank for the time.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: I don't. I honestly don't know if if people have
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: feedback on which of these they think of the top three.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: But like right now, when I pair and when I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: que up, a large majority of the time I see
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Tracer Cigy outside of seeing Tracer CIGGI all the time
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: in the open arena, because that's the ones I see
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: the most by a lot. We have seen a lot
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: of instances where people are bringing in they are three
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: crazy high powered orts cards into Waru basically with cars
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: exactly like we talked about earlier in the past the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: day and are winning with a high frequency because one
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: they are bringing these three baller uniques and then they're
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: going up against a lot of Trace and ware still
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: tanks Traced, who then tanks everyone else. So it's very interesting.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: And Warrao will always stand up to any deck pretty
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: evenly and then has an advantage against the other most
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: one of the other most populars, and then those same
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: uniques are feeding into Siggy doing really really well, and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: Ciggy has always had the hey I have a free body.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: Every tournamchanic going with it.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't Worris CIGGI matchup quite a bit worse now without
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Robin Hood I don't like.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: That's the one that I don't know like. I have
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: played both, but I personally actually don't like playing ortists
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: that much. So, but I have played at least fifty
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: games into Waru and SIGGI probably only about with like
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: New Warrow or whatever to play a ton of games
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: on traced, And honestly, the only matchup I dread when
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: I get traced are matchups I don't see Havin and
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Warrow playing against Warrow is a nightmare. Leg Itt and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: quetzecaddle kick your ass like they.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Just every time. It's just like every time. And now,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: honestly I said this before, but I maybe it's just me.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: But I'm also hitting more councils and.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, they they do need a bigger body these days.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: And some people have pumped their quetzacuddal or technically they're
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: knocking it down, but they're moving the questacuddle down to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: the common slot just to get the four four four stats.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: But it still does. This thing to you is freaking
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: trist Yeah.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: That the council I knew that I hated playing into
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: it is traced because it turns off so much of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: what I do, but.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Like everything you do.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, war before had Robinhood is a two so like
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: and that is that was way worse than Council. So
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: of course before were running it and that council.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Well, the one other thing about like what's interesting about
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: the changes to Warrow. The new Warrows have better stats
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: on board than the old wars because like people for
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: kind of forget that war like that Robin Hood was
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: super weak, Like his stats to the amount of manna
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: you're spending suck three two two is real bad for
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: four to four.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: But he was costing. He was costing the other player.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's why I'm not saying it's a bad card.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like the stats on board were actually
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: pretty low. Now, the four drops for Warrow that are
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: coming to at you are actually four four four, So
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: they're not losing on the stat They're actually playing a
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: good static card. They're getting twelve stats for for mana
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: and whatever else it does, whether it's Quatzacato at Common
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: or Council at anything. I guess the Common Council is
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: for that's the when people blow, so like they're putting
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: a bigger body on the board for when it wakes up.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have an answer to which one. Basically,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: it's some kind of weird triangle to me right now,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: like I don't know what the War of CIGI matchup
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: looks like. Feels like I don't have data on that.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: I know what Trace versus STIGI looks like. Generally I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: win with Trace, and I know of a Trace versus war.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Unless I get super lucky, I just lose, like.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think like I feel like back in
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: the day War with Robin Hood stopped all over Siggy.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I I don't know if it's true now now that
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: now that they've lost that tool, I don't know if
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: that matchup is kind of swung back in the other direction,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: or if it's just more even in general, I.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: Don't down and I don't know. I'm still building one.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: I really had haven't really played a ton with it.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: I just haven't seen. I haven't seen enough yet to
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: have a strong feeling about it.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: And we did just see in our Ace event this
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: this week, Ware would beat out Ciggy at the top table.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: We didn't have as many traits in that event as
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: I would have expect. As time progress is throughout the season,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: I am expecting there to be more traced. We kind
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: of already talked about it like the like the longer,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Like say, I'm on Warror right now and I just
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: started I built the deck, or like like like what
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: you're saying, if I'm opening more uniques as war or
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: CIGGI I'm going to have a higher chance to add
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: to my value to my deck. That's going to make
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: me better. Whereas we just did the we just did
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: the Ace Patreon episode on Trace, we talked all about it.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: The threshold of which you're improving your deck out of
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: the unique slot is not that big for traced.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Did what you do number from I don't know if
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: we did or didn't. We did listen to the chat saying, uh,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: war didn't do well today because we I mean, Cole
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: told us the top four was three trays. That enough
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: on us, what's that?
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: But that's but the interesting thing about that is the
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: better Trace does, the more warrows you will see. Because
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: like a long time ago, when we were talking about
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: like what standard metals look like in TCTS is is
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: back in the day. The old thing is you'll have
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: your meta deck, you'll have your counter meta deck, and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: everyone else is just playing for fun. Right, So like
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: if Trace does take the reins like the true I
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: am what you have to beat, then you will see
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: more wars because I just I.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Don't I don't know what all showed up. That was
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: the thing, Like, I don't know how many showed up
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: because I don't think today was the main event. I
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: thought that was yeah, tomorrow, But I could be wrong
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: on that on.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Saying that it was like so there were three of
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: them in the ten A M. And none of them
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: made the top fourteen. I wonder what the total count
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: was because there'll only be three wars. What what size
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: event are we talking about? Like is this a twenty
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: person event?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: Total count was low?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Total was very low. But we will cover all of
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: not only.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: That it's gonna be the show.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Is always range event to because of how close it
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: is to the holidays.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little wary of of numbers that are
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: that low. Well yeah, so I'm looking at them as
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: without like you know what I'm saying, like, is this
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: just a statistical anomaly?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Like, well, very well, possibly, we were talking about all
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: those things.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Try go aheadsach.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: While we were talking about all those things, like, I
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: was looking over the last few like weeks data from
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: thirty nine cards and seeing what was placing.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: This last Wednesday traced top four like Boom Boom, Boom boom,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: then a WARU and the another trace to finish off
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the top six. In Kellen Guys, there was three of
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: the top six that were traced, and in the A
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Wall Monday there were three of the top five that
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: were traced. So it is definitely leaning towards.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: There you go, packs you here. I was journe it
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: was twenty two five, Trace five, Trace two, Kojo Top
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: one Itt.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're breaking up their events like when you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: say made event, it's like they don't really have like
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: a main main event. I don't think they have a
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: bunch of events because it's not official, like there's no
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: real op until next.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: There is a main event tomorrow, I thought. I'm almost
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: positive tomorrow is the main of that.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: All of these are like little bitty things they're running.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: But like today they were doing like the hero staff
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: and the a what was it called, I'm drawing a blank.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: They were doing a lot of their like s.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, So tomorrow there will be a six round event
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: with the top cut of it. All of these calls
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: a judge there like he is doing doing the He's
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: doing the altered work for sure, but that's what we have.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: So to recap our top three undefined where they are
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: as far as one, two, three are Stiggy, Trace and Waru.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: More data needs to be collected. There's lots of variants
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: going on in all of the tourneys we see, and
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: then we have fourth fin fifth, the Funnest, sixth Kojo
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: in seventh Tasia and then we have our bottom three,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: similar to the top three were hard to split hairs
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: where they fall. Put our bottom through Kesha, Novenka, and Subash.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: That's what we have as our top ten at the moment.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: I do want to like before you finish this segment.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: I have played various number of TCGs from top to bottom,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: from number one all the way. Actually am going to
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: cut off before I get to the bottom bottom, but
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: from one to seven, I do think with the proper
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: unique support, with the amount of like getting in good reps,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: all of these have real shots to win real events.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: And that is not something I could say about any
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: game I've ever played. Now that Robinhood is dead, I
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: do think Equinox has made one of the currently most
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: balanced metas that I've ever seen or played in. Because
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: when I go see these top decks, watch of these
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: top players like they're not winning a crazy large percentage
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: of their games, it is they are there. They're coming
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: real close in some of their wins and whatnot, and
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: they've been the matches that I see, So I think
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: I think they've done a real good job.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Only the only thing that I do have a problem
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: with I was looking at the top seven there are
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: still two Blue representatives in one of each of the rest,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: so Blue does still have.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: That slight Well, that's because of the uniques, many which
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: you have the best uniques in this game, right, absolutely,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: And so it'll be interesting to see, like as the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: new set comes out in January and further out down
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: the road, to see if that balance shifts to if
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: another color will get that you know, crazy, because we
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: know how you like the well we somewhat know how
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: uniques are driven, so like all that takes is so
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: every color has something that a unique can get that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: is literally not on a card. I'm like this every
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: time to play a thing spawn a guy. But on
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: top of that, if it exists in your card pool,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: if you have access to it, even if it came
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: from out affection, it can be put on a unique.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: So in this game is song. As you get a
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: cool effect on any card given to you, your potential
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: to have great uniques drastically changes. So like when we
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: were talking about Trace not really having like a home
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: run hitter or all of lera uniques, Like what am
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: I actually trying to get on a unique here? Being
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: a question mark? All you need is like one good
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: effect on anything. It can be a landmark, it can
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: be a spell, it can be a character. If it
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: hits a printed card, the algorithm can pull it onto
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: a unique character. So that is what I would like
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: to see. These things that just don't have those home
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: runs right now, give them some home run cards so
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: that they can also get them on the unique side.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Have some new like pool polls for some of these
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: unique for the abilities to go back into yeah.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: Ye, also so they can exist.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: My question is like how dim dynamic like would the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: company be about printing in their algorithms. So like, like
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: let's say, right now, I can never remember the name
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: of the next set, but whatever trial ice trialed by Frost,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: so something about ice comes out, right, We just gave
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: you the name, and you're, yes, yes, I think it's
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: I think it's a song of fired ice.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Or something like that.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: Right's familiar, Like, well, we have fire dog, and maybe
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: this whole set could be called ice monkeys. Who cares.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna have a fire dog, you gotta have
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: an ice cats.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, ice cats, and the picture will very clearly be.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: A dog. Yeah yeah, Okay, We're call.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: It a cap because that's what we need.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: It to be.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: And they get a really cool ability on any card.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: Then if the company prints any set, would those uniques
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: potentially pull to the uniques and the other ones because
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: they have the power to do that, and it would
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: make their reverse product more viable where every other company
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: in the world could never do that.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: Ah, But wouldn't that just give Blue the ability to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: make more one on one canuts.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying is that that effect exists in their cardpools.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: It's never going away, like I think, I don't think so,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: like unless I mean, they can control all of that,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: But I assume we're still going to be able to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: see that effect on new Blue characters in ice Cats see.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: I wonder though, if if that's not the case in
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: my head, I wonder if the the uniques that are
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: printed with each set, because eventually they're gonna stop printing
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: beyond the gates right like they'll it'll hit whatever their
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: saturation is. If it's not there already, all the product
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: will be out there. If you're gonna get it, You're
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: gonna get it whatever. I to always have every unique
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: ability that was in the algorithmic pool for the first
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: set be in every set going forward. I feel like
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: you eventually hit the point of dilution where like nothing works.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if each set will have its.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: Own Yeah, I guess it would just get so rare
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: you would never see.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Some Yeah, like.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: With each set, you want the cool new things that
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: that set brings to the table to show up on
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: the uniques for that set, right, Like with that that would.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: Be an interesting AMA thing, Like I don't know if
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: that's been an asset I call would know cold tracks everything.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: But like, like as anyone asked them, like, are uniques
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: going to be isolated to the set as far as
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: the traits go? Because we like, like we just said,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: we know how uniques are generally generated. We've done a
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: lot of live research on this, like it has to
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: be pulled from a card or each faction does have
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: a weird conditional like if this thing happens, then do this,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: Like we just we went over ortises today. When another
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: non token character joined your expedition created creat a recruit,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Ortis gets that it is not on a card that
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: they have, They just magically materialize it on their uniques.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: We went over the red one a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: where it is if I get a boost draw card, right, Like,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: these don't exist in their card pool, but they exist
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: only on the unique. So, like, if you're saying like
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: that is a question I would be interested in ask
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: when us like are those things going to move forward
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: or are they going to be different each expansion.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: That makes me wonder if because like we know that
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: they made some changes to the set before it ever
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: got in front of us, right, I wonder if there
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: was a card that had that effect on it and
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: the effect was allowed to continue living in the algorithm
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: even if like the card got pulled or moved or whatever.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: I would be on board with believing that if every
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: house or every faction did not have one or actually,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: like I think there's two, every faction didn't have like
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: two of these things and they're written in a very
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  Speaker 3: similar fashion.
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  Speaker 4: Cole might know the answer to all of this, probably,
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  Speaker 4: which is a weird story, so get it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh speaking, Oh that's Sarah is saying that the Ortis
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  Speaker 2: and Bravos abilities that aren't on cards did exist on
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  Speaker 2: cards at one point. I wonder if he means, uh
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  Speaker 2: play testing, Yeah, like if they kept play testing ability text? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's see that's wild though, If text from the early
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  Speaker 2: part of this play test can can continue to exist
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  Speaker 2: in the out.
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  Speaker 3: That I wouldn't have wanted to know because in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: if that's true, like that's a that's a fail. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they could have decided that the text was too
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  Speaker 2: good to be printed on a common right.
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  Speaker 3: A standard card, but just leave it there for a flavor.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, the text itself was okay if
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at the power level of like theoretical what
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  Speaker 2: a unique is valued at? Right, Like also like the
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  Speaker 2: the the percentage chance that you're going to get three
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  Speaker 2: exact copies of one of those abilities as much lower,
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  Speaker 2: even though like, yes, you can throw a wallet at
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  Speaker 2: it and solve that problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, percentage this doesn't matter. We just start about
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  Speaker 3: like youoard, like, if it can happen, it will happen
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  Speaker 3: at the highest table period. You don't have to debate it.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to all right.
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  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, those would be interesting questions we could
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure calls will listen to this and yeah he
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  Speaker 3: was actually in here right now, but SA spam our
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  Speaker 3: thing and uh, at some point be like this is
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  Speaker 3: the answer to this, this this this, this is this,
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  Speaker 3: but anyway, I think it's time to wrap. It's time
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  Speaker 3: before Tole actually jumps in here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you have to bring it in here.
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  Speaker 1: He isn't the audience though, Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where we will go over all of this
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  Speaker 4: next week, right, so make sure you come back next week.
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  Speaker 4: Make sure you go over to the patreon for the
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  Speaker 4: win a box and some holiday deals from the patreon.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, so to be.
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  Speaker 3: Clear about that, there are two people in my event
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  Speaker 3: to win a box there will get a full retail box.
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  Speaker 3: Whoever wins the event right now, it is Wookie and.
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  Speaker 2: Cole wait Cat members are eligible.
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  Speaker 3: Why not they enjoyed it's those two. I haven't like
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  Speaker 3: publicized the nuance of the event, but there will be
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: like some thing about the events. So it might be
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: comings only, but we've already done that, so it'll be
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  Speaker 3: something fun so that, you know, just the same old
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: people aren't always winning, so it'll be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: different than normal. But if you want a chance out
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: of like probably less than ten people to win a box,
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  Speaker 3: join the Patreon. I can't remember if it's set to
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  Speaker 3: three or five dollars a month. I think it's only
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  Speaker 3: three three bucks a month. Become a Patreon. There's a
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: couple resources there that only you have access to. We
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  Speaker 3: did a whole thing untraced at some point, I think
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: we need to do a whole thing on WAU. That'll
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  Speaker 3: be the next one. So that'll be there. It'll be
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  Speaker 3: for the patreons only, and from now until January.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Third, if you are a Patreon, you can buy some
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  Speaker 3: product from me at a special rate Kickstarter boxes at
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  Speaker 3: one and retail at Hell, let's go eighty Merry Christmas. Man,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: we have to unless you happen to randomly be in Houston,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: you would have to figure out that what the shipping is.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: Zach will help you out with that. Yeah, but yeah
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  Speaker 3: my handling piece though, So yes, under whatever our thing
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  Speaker 3: was today earlier from the marketplace for retail until January.
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  Speaker 3: What do you want it to be, Zach? What day? January?
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: It ends the fifth for the first Sunday. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: a Sunday, all right, so till January fifth plus chipping.
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  Speaker 4: sending some some great pictures of Pacts unplugged right now.
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  Speaker 4: Make sure you follow us over on.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I hate it because I just like YouTube. But what's
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  Speaker 4: that live stream?
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  Speaker 2: You think?
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  Speaker 4: Twitch? Twitch? Find us over on Twitch and then obviously
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  Speaker 4: chat with us like these fine folks here did today
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  Speaker 4: pretty like I feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like this is more than we had before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, and it was live, very interactive to
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  Speaker 1: it was thank you for it was appreciated.
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  Speaker 4: It was so Hopefully this thing continues to grow and
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  Speaker 4: we'll catch y'all next week. Yeah, hey ja