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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 3-26-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 3: Bowl team. RJ Rice is now dipping his toes into
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Speaker 3: the waters of stand up comedy. He's headlining next month
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Speaker 3: favorite memories of Utah football. Terrence Murphy, by the way,
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Speaker 3: the new owner of Love Salt Lake. He's also got
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Speaker 3: So we'll get to all of that on the show today.
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Speaker 3: It's huge because Sweet sixteen basketball today, the Round of
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Speaker 3: sixteen begins with a slate of four games, and it's
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Speaker 3: Opening day in baseball.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: We had like an opening night celebration last night for
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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball as well, but today's Opening Day, all right,
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Speaker 3: and we're not gonna let whatever television programming and decisions
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Speaker 3: on the broadcast front take away from the American holiday
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Speaker 3: that is Opening Day. Eleven games on the docket for today.
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Speaker 3: Your favorite team might be playing, your favorite team should
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Speaker 3: be playing. James Peterson is our resident baseball fan. Our
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Speaker 3: guy Alonso also a big baseball fan, So you know,
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Speaker 3: even if it's not your favorite sports, we have to
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Speaker 3: acknowledge baseball's place in American sports culture. Pirates, Mets, Nationals, Cubs,
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Speaker 3: Red Sox, Reds, White Sox, Brewers, Twins, Orioles, Rangers, Phillies,
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Speaker 3: and more, all on the docket today. First pitch for
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Speaker 3: Pirates Mets will be in about ten minut's. So another
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Speaker 3: great place to come and watch, or another great thing
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Speaker 3: to come and watch, I should say. Down here at
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Speaker 3: Big Willie's is the full slate of baseball on opening Day.
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Speaker 2: Down at seventeen seventeen South Maine, James.
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Speaker 3: Peterson is back in our Broadway studios behind the glass,
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Speaker 3: lonely by himself. He's probably I don't know, Folcus Stanza
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Speaker 3: shirtless in there right now.
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Speaker 2: We have no idea, but James, it's opening day in baseball.
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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: Always an exciting day. It's cool.
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Speaker 7: Where So that Mets Pirates game is the first game
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Speaker 7: on NBC in like thirty years or something like that.
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Speaker 7: They since the nineties, so that one is that one's
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Speaker 7: starting will be a national, nationally broadcast game.
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Speaker 6: So that's kind of cool. Yeah, excited.
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Speaker 7: I got I'm actually wearing my my Sandlot shirt. You're
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Speaker 7: killing me Smalls with with ham calling his shot picture
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Speaker 7: Ham calling is shot.
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Speaker 6: In honor of Opening Day.
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Speaker 3: I like that.
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Speaker 6: So that's the fit today.
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Speaker 7: And again, yeah, like you said, American holiday, we should
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Speaker 7: all have this day off.
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Speaker 6: If you don't just take it off.
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Speaker 3: Look, the right thing to do is to acknowledge that
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Speaker 3: baseball in the state of Utah has in more recent years,
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Speaker 3: over the last couple of decades, it has had You know,
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Speaker 3: we love our Salt Lake Bees. The Bees have moved
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Speaker 3: out of downtown. They're now in daybreak. That was problematic
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Speaker 3: for some people. That was difficult for some people to swallow.
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Speaker 3: We have not had our own MLB team. There's obviously
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Speaker 3: kind of the transient nature of Like James is a
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Speaker 3: Red Sox fan, there's a lot of people who are
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Speaker 3: Dodgers or Giants fans. I don't think anyone has really
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Speaker 3: embraced the Colorado Rockies as the nearest neighbor or whatever.
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Speaker 3: But I think the right thing to do is to
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Speaker 3: start getting back into baseball if you're a sports fan
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Speaker 3: or you're a fan that has been kind of like.
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Speaker 2: Dubious on it.
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Speaker 3: Because I'm of the firm belief that sooner than later,
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Speaker 3: I mean, within probably the next five years, we are
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Speaker 3: going to have a professional baseball franchise in Salt Lake City.
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Speaker 3: We've got the ballpark out there on North Temple, the proposal,
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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of conversation Big League Utah is
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Speaker 3: a well run organization with good leadership. The Miller family
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Speaker 3: has a great reputation in the sports ownership circles. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I think that we're gonna end up having a professional
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Speaker 3: baseball franchise, and we're not going to talk about that
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Speaker 3: every time there's baseball on. But it's opening Day, and
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Speaker 3: hopefully in the next three to five years, Opening Day
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Speaker 3: is not just a national holiday, but as a Utah
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Speaker 3: holiday because you've got the Mountain Goats or the Cutthroats
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Speaker 3: or whatever we end up calling that team. Maybe it'll
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Speaker 3: be the Utah Athletics, who knows. I think that the
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Speaker 3: A's are pretty settled on Vegas, but there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of things still up in the air with that.
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Speaker 6: Bring back the bring back the Trappers, oh see.
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Speaker 2: Trappers would be awesome.
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Speaker 7: I I just we have such cool I mean, porters
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Speaker 7: talked about it's kind of related to what I'm about
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Speaker 7: to say. He's talked about the cool outlaw culture and
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Speaker 7: history that we've had. Specifically, we have cool mountain man
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Speaker 7: like folklore and culture. All the all the famous mountain
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Speaker 7: men spent time or lived in Utah for a long time.
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Speaker 7: One of them, one of them uh named the Great
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Speaker 7: Salt Lake for crying out loud. So I I like,
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Speaker 7: let's and they they were the trappers before the bees
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Speaker 7: and the goals and all that, and so bring back
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Speaker 7: the trappers to honor the mountain man.
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Speaker 2: Lore not noted for their lyrical creativity.
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Speaker 3: By the way, the mountain Men uh naming the Great
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Speaker 3: Salt Lake the Great Salt Lake. That's uh yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I guess he could have just named it salt Lake,
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Speaker 3: but he called it the Great Salt Lake.
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Speaker 6: Which is because it's big. It's great. Oh see, I
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Speaker 6: don't know why you have a problem with that.
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Speaker 3: The Salt Lake City Trappers. Why not, you know, the
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Speaker 3: old Dirk's Field Denizens. The shout out to Bill Murray
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Speaker 3: eighty five to ninety two is when we had the
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Speaker 3: Salt Lake Trappers. Here's if you're gonna do trappers, I
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Speaker 3: hope you do it with the Salt Lake Gulls color scheme.
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Speaker 3: I like that the Trappers is it's fine, but it's
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Speaker 3: it's effectively. You know, like, how many red, white, and
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Speaker 3: blue color schemes do you need to have in professional sports?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it doesn't have to be the exact same branding
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Speaker 7: absolutely just I just like the name and I think it.
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Speaker 7: I think Trappers is an ode to the mountain Man
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Speaker 7: history without being like the mountain men, right. I think
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Speaker 7: Trappers is a better name than mountain Men.
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Speaker 3: So the Salt Lake Goals, let's say that was nineteen
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Speaker 3: seventy five when the Salt Lake City Angels were renamed
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Speaker 3: the Salt Lake City Goals.
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Speaker 7: And they've had so many different names. I guess they're
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Speaker 7: all given that they were Salt Lake City Angels. They
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Speaker 7: I guess they were all always under the Anaheim slash,
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Speaker 7: the California slash, Anaheim slash at Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
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Speaker 7: I guess they've had a lot of names too.
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Speaker 2: How about this for a Goals history.
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Speaker 3: When the team reached the Pacific Coast League Championship Series
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Speaker 3: each of its first two seasons, and they lost to
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Speaker 3: the Hawaii Islanders in both of those years. Hawaii Islanders.
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Speaker 3: I need to know the lore around that minor league
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Speaker 3: baseball team.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and why did they go away?
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Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy nine, the Salt Lake Goals won the league
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Speaker 3: crown in the Pacific Coast League. Then they became a
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Speaker 3: Seattle Mariners affiliate in nineteen eighty two. For the nineteen
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Speaker 3: eighty four season, the club was sold and moved to Calgary,
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Speaker 3: where it became the Calgary Cannons. So that burning hatred
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Speaker 3: for Calgary in your heart comes from the fact that
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Speaker 3: they stole the Salt Lake goals from us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fully justified.
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Speaker 7: That's why we hate the Flames so much, Hockey City.
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Speaker 7: Now that we have that burning hate for the Flames.
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Speaker 3: The Calgary Canons, of course have a perfect minor league
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Speaker 3: baseball logo and angry cannon where the nose of this
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Speaker 3: creature is the long muzzle of the cannon. And then,
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Speaker 3: following the two thousand and two season, James, if you
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Speaker 3: know this lineage, I'm gonna give you James Peterson bonus point. Okay,
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Speaker 3: following the two thousand and two season, the Calgary Cannons moved.
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Speaker 2: Where did they end up? What team are they currently?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 6: Are they the Iowa Cubs?
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Speaker 3: They are the Albuquerque Isotopes.
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Speaker 7: Oh yes, okay, that was my next guess. Of course,
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Speaker 7: it was I have heard of the Isotopes. I did
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Speaker 7: not know that they were in Canada at one point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you know, now you know the full lineage.
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Speaker 3: In any case, hopefully sooner than later we have a
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Speaker 3: major League baseball team. I would be remiss, James if
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Speaker 3: we didn't on a baseball opening day with Sweet sixteen
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Speaker 3: basketball Gorda Chase coming in, We're gonna get plenty of
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Speaker 3: hoops discussion. We're gonna get a little football discussion today.
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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds joined the Netflix Opening Night broadcast last night
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Speaker 3: and dropped an absolute what if bomb in the sports world.
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Speaker 2: Did you see this? Did you hear about this?
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Speaker 6: I heard about it. I did not see it live.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so Barry Bonds, yes that Barry Bonds told a
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Speaker 3: story that, as far as I know, has never been part.
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Speaker 2: Of public record.
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Speaker 3: And the story he told was effectively that when he
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Speaker 3: became an unrestricted free agent in nineteen ninety two after
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Speaker 3: a couple of MVP seasons with the Pittsburgh Pirates, I mean,
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Speaker 3: he is one of the best players in baseball. He
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Speaker 3: is arguably the best player in baseball, and the free
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Speaker 3: agent market for him is obviously incredibly hot. So the
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Speaker 3: story goes, according to Barry Bonds, who reserved telling this
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Speaker 3: until after George Steinbrenner was no longer with us, and
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Speaker 3: I guess decided that now's the time he can make
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Speaker 3: it public. He said that the Yankees were in on
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Speaker 3: him and were prepared to offer him the biggest contract
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Speaker 3: that had ever been offered to any free agent in
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Speaker 3: baseball history, that he was interested in playing for the
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Speaker 3: nineteen nineties New York Yankees. And obviously every one of
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Speaker 3: us knows what that team ended up becoming. But according
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Speaker 3: to Barry's story that he told on Netflix, George Steinbrenner said, Hey,
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Speaker 3: we love you, we want you.
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Speaker 2: We're going to give you the contract that you need.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna contract that you want, but you have to
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Speaker 3: sign the offer by two o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Today, by two pm today.
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Speaker 3: And this is where ego and things like that come
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Speaker 3: in for big time professional athletes. When you put terms
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Speaker 3: like that, when you big brother or mom or dad,
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Speaker 3: somebody like that, who's in a position that Barry Bonds
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Speaker 3: is in, I mean you got to think about what
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Speaker 3: he was, how he viewed himself, and how the baseball
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Speaker 3: world viewed him back in the early nineties.
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Speaker 2: Of course, this is pre.
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Speaker 3: Home run record, pre home run race, but this isn't
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Speaker 3: multiple time MVP, right.
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Speaker 2: This is the son of a major league baseball player.
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Speaker 3: This is one of the biggest stars rising in baseball world.
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Speaker 3: Where I mean, this is before we started really wringing
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Speaker 3: our hands and worrying about the downfall of baseball, if
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Speaker 3: that's not too exaggerated a term.
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Speaker 2: Before we were worried.
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Speaker 3: Too much about baseball, you know, losing its place as
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Speaker 3: America's past time. And George Steinbrenner, of course, he owns
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Speaker 3: the Yankees. That's as powerful a man as you can
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Speaker 3: find in any professional sport. And he calls Barry and
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Speaker 3: he says, hey, yeah, man, we love you, we want you.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna make you that forty six million dollar offer
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Speaker 3: and change highest paid player. Ever, however, you're gonna have
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Speaker 3: to uh, you're gonna have to sign that offer sheet today,
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Speaker 3: and Barry bonds. That was enough, according to his story,
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Speaker 3: that was enough for him to say, no, man, I'm
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Speaker 3: not dealing with that. I'm not being pushed around like
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Speaker 3: that and just hung up and that's what pushed him
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Speaker 3: to the San Francisco Giants and the rest is history.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, we've had plenty of what ifs in
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Speaker 3: the sports world. What if what if you hadn't passed
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Speaker 3: on Michael Jordan to draft Sam Bouie, what if you
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Speaker 3: hadn't you know, had this injury or that injury. What
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Speaker 3: if Barry Sanders would have played for a team that
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Speaker 3: actually had an offensive line.
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Speaker 2: There's a million different what ifs.
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Speaker 3: What if Michael Jordan had, you know, not stood in
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Speaker 3: the way of the Utah Jazz, we'd be talking about
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Speaker 3: a franchise that had at least one championship under the
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Speaker 3: stock them alone thing.
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Speaker 2: A trillion what ifs out there.
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Speaker 3: What if Cam Rising and bran Keathy and everyone else
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Speaker 3: on the team hadn't been injured a couple of years
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Speaker 3: ago for the University of Utah. When you talk about
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Speaker 3: the ultimate, big time, massive what ifs in the sports lexicon,
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Speaker 3: what if Barry Bonds became a Yankee in the early
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Speaker 3: nineties has.
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Speaker 2: Got to be one of the biggest ones.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they probably don't have to wait until ninety six
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Speaker 7: to win their first title since what the late seventies
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Speaker 7: I think it was. If Barry Bonds is on the
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Speaker 7: team a couple of years before that, that's all, that's
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Speaker 7: probably what happens. They may even have they may have
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Speaker 7: had more World Series titles in the nineties. They had
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Speaker 7: and they were the team of the nineties. So yeah,
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Speaker 7: I mean.
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Speaker 3: You can't revise history because of how things played out
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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds. It's not like San Francisco is a small market.
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Speaker 3: I mean they're a top ten media market there, I
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Speaker 3: think a top six media market. But imagine if Barry
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Speaker 3: Bonds did everything that Berry Bonds did. If imagine if
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Speaker 3: the Barry Bond's story played out exactly the same, or
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Speaker 3: at least in a similar fashion, but he's wearing the
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Speaker 3: pinstripes instead of wearing a giant's uniform. The media circus
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Speaker 3: around that, which was already just an absolute nightmare, was
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Speaker 3: absolutely insane, would have been ten XT, fifteen XT because
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Speaker 3: he would have been a Yankee instead, he would have
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Speaker 3: been in New York City instead. Now, maybe maybe things
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Speaker 3: would have played out a little bit differently. Maybe Barry
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Speaker 3: Bonds never becomes the kind of universal villain because a
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Speaker 3: Yankees organization keeps a little bit tighter, runs a little
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Speaker 3: tighter ship. And maybe you don't get these stories about
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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds alienating teammates and things like that, because maybe
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Speaker 3: the Yankees would have been able to steer him in
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Speaker 3: a different direction. Too many maybees And obviously the possibilities
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Speaker 3: are endless, and we're not gonna go through every single one,
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Speaker 3: but of all the like, oh, let me tell you
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Speaker 3: a story, you got it five minutes. Let me tell
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Speaker 3: you something that almost happened that we've had in recent
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Speaker 3: years that is like the biggest one. What if Barry
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Speaker 3: Bonds had become a New York Yankee? So it begs
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Speaker 3: the question for me eight seven seven three five three
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Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. Unless you're a Yankee fan, you're probably
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Speaker 3: not gonna pay too much attention to this beyond me
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Speaker 3: telling you the story, or more importantly, Barry Bond's telling
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Speaker 3: you the story on a Netflix opening night broadcast for
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Speaker 3: you personal here in Salt Lake City or if you're
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Speaker 3: listening somewhere else. Eight seven seven three five three zero
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Speaker 3: seven hundred, is there a massive what if for you
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Speaker 3: that you just can't shake? I mean, maybe Barry Bonds
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Speaker 3: carries this around, Probably not. Maybe George Steinbrenner lamented that
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Speaker 3: until his final days, Ah Man, I could have handled
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Speaker 3: that differently, and we would have had Barry Bonds. It's
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Speaker 3: not like the Yankees haven't had a ton of success
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Speaker 3: between nineteen ninety two when this story happened and now,
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Speaker 3: so you're probably not wishing and pining over one individual
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Speaker 3: player when you have some of the greatest all time
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Speaker 3: even in that same time period, maybe Barry Bonds becoming
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Speaker 3: a Yankee changers and trajectory of guys like Derek Jeter
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Speaker 3: and when Johnny Damon became a Yankee and who knows, however,
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Speaker 3: many players like a favorite.
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Speaker 7: A favorite thing for Yankees fans is is Don Mattingly
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Speaker 7: talking about how he was one of the best players
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Speaker 7: to never win a title, and so many Yankees fans
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Speaker 7: favorite player, and they always lament man too bad. He
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Speaker 7: wasn't on good Yankees teams and he retired right before
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Speaker 7: Derek Jeter got in the league and they won, you know,
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Speaker 7: four titles in five years in the nineties, in the
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Speaker 7: late nineties and in the year two thousand. That's probably
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Speaker 7: one that changes his history changes. If they sign Barry
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Speaker 7: Bonds a few years before that, maybe, like I said,
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Speaker 7: they maybe win at least one World Series before Jeter
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Speaker 7: comes along.
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Speaker 6: That's one off the.
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Speaker 7: Top of my head that I think Yankees fans would
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Speaker 7: be like, oh, that'd have been so great because Don
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Speaker 7: Mattingly would have gotten it, maybe would have gotten the title.
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Speaker 3: Damn. There's probably Mattingly fans out there that are hearing
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Speaker 3: that Barry Bond's story, but like.
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Speaker 2: That would have been the thing that would have fixed it.
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Speaker 3: We go to the text line ten thirty seven says
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Speaker 3: Trappers is a terrible name. Oh okay, all right, fine, all.
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Speaker 6: Right, blocked not just kidding, that's fine.
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Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine, Matt. What if they're what would
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Speaker 3: have been if the Utah for the Utah Jazz, if
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Speaker 3: there's a not a lockout for much of the nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Ninety eight nineteen ninety nine season. What if Jacks?
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Speaker 3: What if bo Jackson stays healthy from five zero one
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Speaker 3: to one. Most of my what ifs are either in
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Speaker 3: my own athletic career or uh, you know, I really do,
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Speaker 3: and I know that this is like a fresh wound
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Speaker 3: that I don't want to keep picking the scab off
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Speaker 3: of it. But the what if of that injury riddled
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Speaker 3: season where Utah we felt so good about the possibility
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Speaker 3: of them going back to back to back as PAC
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Speaker 3: twelve champs. I mean, I was more confident that they
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Speaker 3: could win that third one than I was that they
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Speaker 3: would have a chance to win the second one. They
20:52
Speaker 3: kind of backed into the second one, and look, you
20:55
Speaker 3: hang the banner anyway. But I thought that that third
20:59
Speaker 3: year in a row, that team was going to be
21:01
Speaker 3: better than the one that lost to Penn State in
21:04
Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl after winning that Pac twelve championship, And
21:09
Speaker 3: unfortunately you never got there when you could extend it
21:12
Speaker 3: into the next season, because of course Cam and Brandt said,
21:17
Speaker 3: we're running it.
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Speaker 6: We're going to try to run it back again.
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Speaker 7: Do over from twenty twenty three twenty twenty four is
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Speaker 7: going to be that season first year in the Big twelve,
21:26
Speaker 7: you could you could extend in that one too, which
21:29
Speaker 7: ended up being much more unfortunately, much more disastrous than
21:33
Speaker 7: the twenty three season.
21:37
Speaker 3: Also coming in on the text line, I love this
21:40
Speaker 3: from Tyson Howard. This is a little obscure unless you're
21:43
Speaker 3: a hardcore combat sports fan. Maybe what if custom Model
21:47
Speaker 3: lived another five years? What would Mike Tyson have accomplished?
21:51
Speaker 3: And for people who are uninitiated, they don't know. Custom
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Speaker 3: Model was the initial discoverer, slash mentor lash coach of
22:02
Speaker 3: a very very young Mike Tyson.
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Speaker 2: Uh and for better or.
22:07
Speaker 3: Worse, he had figured out a way to kind of
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Speaker 3: tame Mike Tyson and allow him to focus h and
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Speaker 3: maximize his talents. And then when Custamoto died, unfortunately Mike Tyson,
22:20
Speaker 3: he was sort of turned over to the wolves and
22:23
Speaker 3: he did not. I mean, it's well documented he didn't
22:25
Speaker 3: have good people in his circle and he was taken
22:28
Speaker 3: advantage of and he became a very scary and very
22:33
Speaker 3: chaotic type person.
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Speaker 2: And you know that.
22:38
Speaker 3: His legacy's pretty complicated, right, He's he's kind of been
22:42
Speaker 3: like sports washed and entertainment washed.
22:44
Speaker 2: Now.
22:45
Speaker 3: But when you go back to like the things that
22:48
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson was doing, and it's not just the money spending,
22:50
Speaker 3: it's the way he was treating people close to him
22:52
Speaker 3: and his wife, and you know, like he was convicted
22:55
Speaker 3: of things that are horrible and terrible, unspeakable thing and
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Speaker 3: at it's a valid question of like, would he have
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Speaker 3: spiraled the way he did if Costamato, who's someone that
23:08
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson felt loved by, right and protected by and
23:12
Speaker 3: mentored by in a more meaningful way, if he had
23:15
Speaker 3: lasted longer and he'd been able to mentor Mike through
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Speaker 3: those like you know, early twenties and beyond that.
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Speaker 2: That's an interesting one.
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Speaker 3: That's not one that I would even think of had
23:26
Speaker 3: you not brought it up, Tyson Howard, so thank you,
23:31
Speaker 3: thank you for bringing that to nineteen forty three. You
23:37
Speaker 3: nailed mine already. If Jordan wasn't the goat, the Jazz
23:39
Speaker 3: would have at least one championship. That that is probably
23:43
Speaker 3: the most painful what if for Utah Jazz fans. What
23:47
Speaker 3: if you'd been able to like just like peak at
23:50
Speaker 3: the right time when Michael was out?
23:52
Speaker 2: Or what if? What if?
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Speaker 7: What if you beat the what if you beat the
23:56
Speaker 7: Rockets in the ninety five first round series as a
23:59
Speaker 7: sixty win team and you didn't lose to the sixteed
24:02
Speaker 7: Rockets who ended up winning the NBA Championship when Jordan
24:06
Speaker 7: wasn't playing.
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Speaker 3: You take it, if you take advantage, if you take
24:08
Speaker 3: advantage of the absence of Michael Jordan, then it's a
24:11
Speaker 3: totally different conversation. So I did not I'll be honest,
24:15
Speaker 3: I did not plan today on having any kind of
24:17
Speaker 3: what if conversations. But I saw that last night Barry
24:21
Speaker 3: Bonds just casually sitting down and be like, oh, let
24:24
Speaker 3: me tell you about the time I almost became a
24:26
Speaker 3: New York Yankee in the nineteen nineties, and I was like,
24:29
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what I mean the ripple effect of that
24:34
Speaker 3: across the legendary sports baseball, at least organization New York Yankees.
24:41
Speaker 3: What it could have done for Barry, What it might
24:43
Speaker 3: have done for Barry It, to be fair, the flip
24:46
Speaker 3: side of the coin could have been a lot worse, right, Like,
24:50
Speaker 3: he already became problematic and chaotic later on in his career,
24:53
Speaker 3: and it would have been a lot more in focus
24:55
Speaker 3: if he'd been with the Yankees. If you you can't
24:59
Speaker 3: get along with people in a Yankees club house, that's
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Speaker 3: gonna be talked about a lot more and a lot
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Speaker 3: worse than how things were in San Francisco.
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Speaker 7: So can you imagine, Like you don't even really have
25:10
Speaker 7: to imagine it much because we got this with Alex
25:13
Speaker 7: Rodriguez in the Yankees uniform, But can you imagine it
25:16
Speaker 7: seemed like it was a bigger deal with Barry Bonds.
25:18
Speaker 7: Do you imagine the steroid controversy if he were a Yankee?
25:24
Speaker 7: But we kind of, like I said, we kind of
25:26
Speaker 7: already got like the Yankees, we saw that version of
25:29
Speaker 7: it with in the form of a rod I guess,
25:31
Speaker 7: but I got to think it would have been bigger
25:33
Speaker 7: because it was a bigger deal with Barry Bonds than
25:36
Speaker 7: it was with anybody else.
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Speaker 2: Well, well stated, that's a good point.
25:43
Speaker 3: So yeah, just casually slip that in on Netflix, Barry Bonds.
25:48
Speaker 2: What if i had become a New York Yankee.
25:50
Speaker 7: I've got I've got two related to the ninety hs,
25:53
Speaker 7: all right, all right, one is an and not just
25:58
Speaker 7: simply what's been stayed.
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Speaker 6: Did Hey, what if Michael Jordan wasn't in the way.
26:02
Speaker 7: What if Dick Bavetta had correctly allowed Howard Eisley's three
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Speaker 7: pointer to count that was erroneously called the shot clock
26:12
Speaker 7: violation even though we got it like a full he
26:13
Speaker 7: got off like a full second before the shot clock
26:16
Speaker 7: went off. What if that and and maybe what if
26:19
Speaker 7: we had the lights around the backboard back then like
26:22
Speaker 7: we had like like we didn't have back.
26:24
Speaker 6: Then, that would it would have been called correctly.
26:26
Speaker 7: So there's that one from Game six to the finals
26:30
Speaker 7: and then before that, not indirectly related to the Jazz.
26:34
Speaker 7: What if the Pacers had gotten the jump ball in
26:38
Speaker 7: the in Game seven of the Eastern Conference Finals that
26:41
Speaker 7: doomed that they didn't get that doomed them and doomed
26:45
Speaker 7: their upset of the Bulls, the Jazz would have played
26:48
Speaker 7: Reggie Miller and the Pacers instead of Michael Jordan and
26:50
Speaker 7: the Bulls.
26:53
Speaker 3: The what Ifs text up to me your greatest sports
26:57
Speaker 3: what if since Barry Bonds took us down memory Lane
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Speaker 3: with a story that to my knowledge, we had never
27:02
Speaker 3: heard before. Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
27:07
Speaker 3: Barry said he almost became a Yankee, but George Steinbrenner
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Speaker 3: offered him the same day ultimatum, and he hung up
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Speaker 3: the phone on the owner of the Yankees and said,
27:17
Speaker 3: now I'm gonna go play in San Francisco, which which
27:19
Speaker 3: made perfect sense for him. His godfather was Willie Mays,
27:22
Speaker 3: who played twenty one seasons in San Francisco. His dad
27:25
Speaker 3: had played what seven years of baseball in San Francisco
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Speaker 3: when Barry was young, so he felt like it was
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Speaker 3: going home and that it made perfect sense. And they
27:35
Speaker 3: offered him the biggest contract to date, so it's not
27:38
Speaker 3: like he had to settle in not becoming a Yankee.
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Speaker 2: Forty six million.
27:43
Speaker 3: Dollars, by the way, for a full contract for Barry
27:46
Speaker 3: Bonds is now like entry level garbage money for a
27:51
Speaker 3: major League baseball start.
27:53
Speaker 2: But that's just where we're at.
27:55
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Speaker 7: A couple guys tied for second, including Kurt Kitty Yama
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28:41
Speaker 7: Ricky Fowler is in a group of handful of guys
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Speaker 7: tied for fifth at three under. Jonathan Vegas as well
28:49
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28:52
Speaker 7: We'll see if our guy Tony Fenow is in the
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Speaker 3: Chiasa here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 8: Peace out.
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Speaker 1: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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Speaker 1: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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Speaker 1: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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Speaker 8: Let's not get crazy.
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Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk.
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Speaker 3: Stay for his list of the day.
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Speaker 1: My list today, here's oc with basketball. So on Gordy
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Speaker 1: Chiaysa on The Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 3: You've got hockey games. You've got baseball because it's opening
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Speaker 3: with me in person, which is always great.
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Speaker 2: Gordy, welcome, How are.
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Speaker 8: You, Sewan? I'm doing well, thank you.
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Speaker 3: So we were talking to about the sort of bombshell story
31:02
Speaker 3: that Barry bombs dropped on everyone last night on Netflix,
31:05
Speaker 3: saying like, oh yeah, let me tell you how I
31:07
Speaker 3: almost became a New York Yankee.
31:09
Speaker 2: And that's got to be one of the biggest what ifs.
31:11
Speaker 2: What if that had happened, certainly in baseball.
31:13
Speaker 3: But in professional sports, given the legendary status of that
31:16
Speaker 3: franchise and a Berry himself, I mean, I can't imagine
31:20
Speaker 3: what that marriage would have looked like.
31:22
Speaker 2: We can't imagine it though.
31:24
Speaker 3: For you, who's been around basketball and more importantly sport
31:28
Speaker 3: for your entire life, do you.
31:30
Speaker 2: Have any what ifs that you always wonder about?
31:32
Speaker 9: Yes, what if back in nineteen eighty five, if the
31:36
Speaker 9: general manager of the Washington at that time was called
31:40
Speaker 9: Bullets didn't draft the twelve pick Kenny Green out of
31:45
Speaker 9: Wake Fars who had a very undistinguished Korea, and would
31:49
Speaker 9: have picked Caul Malone at thirteen, what if and what
31:54
Speaker 9: if would have been the Jazz franchise would look dramatically
31:57
Speaker 9: different because Frank Layden, who's in heaven right now, he
32:02
Speaker 9: drafted back to back years John Stockton at sixteen and
32:05
Speaker 9: cal Malone at thirteen, and they became the absolutely the
32:09
Speaker 9: Jazz cornerstone for the next for the next literally twenty years.
32:13
Speaker 9: And what if that's a big if as far as
32:16
Speaker 9: uh uh, just drafting the right guy it helps the
32:21
Speaker 9: Jazz correctly, So Bob Ferry, what if that is?
32:25
Speaker 2: That is a big one if.
32:26
Speaker 3: Keep yours coming in on the text line eight seven
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Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 9: But you know, shurean part of sports is that's a
32:34
Speaker 9: great question, you know, what if? Because so many things
32:36
Speaker 9: are There's so many just happenstances. You've prepared for the draft,
32:41
Speaker 9: whether it's the NFL, the Combine, whether it's the NBA
32:44
Speaker 9: or Major League Baseball opening day yesterday it was today now.
32:47
Speaker 9: Also is that every every team has stories like this
32:51
Speaker 9: where some of it's you. You try to take the
32:55
Speaker 9: risk out of it, but there's always an element of
32:57
Speaker 9: what the unknown. You think the guys played great for you,
33:01
Speaker 9: and Sony doesn't or so and so is picked in
33:03
Speaker 9: it in saying basketball the second round or undrafted plays
33:07
Speaker 9: great for you, and you can't believe what you're thinking.
33:09
Speaker 9: Wasn't thinking not drafting this guy.
33:12
Speaker 3: There's there's a thirty for thirty. I love the ESPN
33:15
Speaker 3: thirty for thirty documentary series, and there's one called The
33:18
Speaker 3: Best That Never.
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Speaker 2: Was about Marcus Dupre.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want, I want a whole series about
33:24
Speaker 3: the Best that Never was, because I think you really
33:26
Speaker 3: could go to every professional franchise, every college, every day
33:31
Speaker 3: high school in the nation, and people there, coaches and fans,
33:35
Speaker 3: they're gonna have a story about a what if like this,
33:39
Speaker 3: about if this guy would have, you know, kept his
33:41
Speaker 3: grades up. What if fact I hadn't got injured, or
33:44
Speaker 3: what if this guy's parents had not gotten divorced and
33:47
Speaker 3: he had to move away or whatever. Right, there's always
33:49
Speaker 3: these stories of the best that never was? What if
33:54
Speaker 3: this would have happened a little bit differently, and I
33:57
Speaker 3: mean really legitimately anywhere I think of my own in
34:00
Speaker 3: high school days, I could think of two guys that
34:02
Speaker 3: should have made it to the NFL, never did anything
34:04
Speaker 3: with themselves, and I we sit and play poker with
34:07
Speaker 3: the old buddies and we bring those things up every
34:09
Speaker 3: now and again.
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Speaker 2: I want a whole documentary series about that for everywhere.
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Speaker 8: Very much add to that.
34:14
Speaker 9: So Brandon Roy was a Rookie of the Year back
34:19
Speaker 9: in two thousand and five he had chronic knee injury.
34:22
Speaker 9: And what if Brandon Roy of the Portland Trailblazers, if
34:26
Speaker 9: didn't get didn't get hurt as far as knee knee
34:30
Speaker 9: operations and just wear and tear at a young age.
34:33
Speaker 9: Had I retired age twenty nine, the Portland Trailblazers, maybe don't,
34:37
Speaker 9: maybe don't draft Dame Lillington. So there's so many different
34:40
Speaker 9: things that happened. Injury is such an important factor in
34:44
Speaker 9: the NBA and the NFL and Major League Baseball, and
34:48
Speaker 9: an elite team if one of their guys get hurt
34:52
Speaker 9: and they fall short in the playoffs, that's the ultimate
34:55
Speaker 9: what if? You know, what if for example short and
34:57
Speaker 9: yet this year Super Bowl? What if bow Knicks didn't
35:01
Speaker 9: get hurt? And what if the crazy weather in Denver,
35:07
Speaker 9: the crazy weather where it affected you know, the offensive
35:10
Speaker 9: bow teams.
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Speaker 8: What if? Who knows?
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Speaker 2: Keep yours coming in?
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Speaker 3: Like I said eight seven seventy three five three zero
35:17
Speaker 3: seven hundred, Gardy, let's shift our focus to the NBA,
35:19
Speaker 3: where you are.
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Speaker 2: Our resident guru.
35:22
Speaker 3: Most recent outing for the Utah Jazz is an abysmble
35:26
Speaker 3: performance by Design one thirty three one ten to the
35:29
Speaker 3: lowly Washington Wizards.
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Speaker 2: I have no issue with it. This is what we
35:34
Speaker 2: need the.
35:34
Speaker 3: Jazz to do because of the way that we're getting
35:37
Speaker 3: down to crunch time, only so many regular season games left.
35:41
Speaker 3: You have to make sure that you're not in a
35:42
Speaker 3: position to lose this draft pick.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
35:45
Speaker 3: And you're now, I mean, you've already been chastised by
35:48
Speaker 3: the league. You've already had to slap on the wrist,
35:50
Speaker 3: You've already had to fine, you've had to shut everybody down,
35:54
Speaker 3: and you've got guys playing now that I guess the
35:57
Speaker 3: correct way to phrase the question might be like, how
36:03
Speaker 3: do you make it through this stretch without spoiling Ace
36:08
Speaker 3: Bailey and Cody Williams and maybe some of the guys
36:11
Speaker 3: that will be part of your franchise because you don't
36:13
Speaker 3: want to develop bad habits.
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Speaker 8: No, you do not.
36:15
Speaker 9: So with that said, the Jazz less last night to
36:18
Speaker 9: the Washington Wizards that broke their sixteen game losing streak
36:23
Speaker 9: one thirty three to one ten, and Showan's alluding to
36:27
Speaker 9: Cody Williams, who had played well twenty four points eleven
36:31
Speaker 9: to twenty shooting and four rebounds, and what you want
36:34
Speaker 9: to do with him in Ace Bailey is continue developing
36:37
Speaker 9: them in game experience and don't allow them to have
36:40
Speaker 9: any sort of a slippage of habits, meaning what negative habits,
36:44
Speaker 9: and that's what defensively not running back on not running
36:47
Speaker 9: back in the defensive recovery, that offensively, not swinging the ball,
36:51
Speaker 9: shooting with footwork instead of just flinging the ball, and
36:54
Speaker 9: all the things that winning players have to do and
36:57
Speaker 9: be ready to play help to help her defense. The
37:00
Speaker 9: Jazz really, I believe they're secure as far as lest
37:04
Speaker 9: the lotter regards are absolutely against them. On Mother's Day
37:07
Speaker 9: shown that that's the lottery day selection on Sunday, May
37:14
Speaker 9: May tenth, and that's gonna show everybody what they're gonna
37:18
Speaker 9: draft as far as that, and the NBA draft issue
37:21
Speaker 9: is going to be on June twenty fourth on a Wednesday,
37:23
Speaker 9: the first round and Thursday, June twenty fifth on the
37:26
Speaker 9: second round, so the habits are formed for the Jazz.
37:29
Speaker 9: Last night's game was basically a bunch of boat teams,
37:32
Speaker 9: a bunch of two way players and also guys that
37:35
Speaker 9: are on ten day contracts. There were seven players in
37:38
Speaker 9: the Wizards and double figures and the only side note
37:42
Speaker 9: as far as that there was some good effort by
37:44
Speaker 9: John Contard also with the fourteen rebounds, which is good
37:47
Speaker 9: at the guy's sixty six eight points in three blocks.
37:50
Speaker 9: Jazz play again the Nuggets, who are serious now. So
37:53
Speaker 9: the Nuggets are trying to fight, fight and claw to
37:57
Speaker 9: catch the Lakers for the third seed and hold off
37:59
Speaker 9: for their fourth right now, hold off the fifth seed,
38:03
Speaker 9: Tea Wolves and the six feet Rockets. So the Jazz
38:06
Speaker 9: have a really, actually a really tough schedule. The only
38:09
Speaker 9: game that the Jazz are favored in the last nine
38:12
Speaker 9: games would be possibly on April tenth and a Friday
38:15
Speaker 9: night against the Grizzlies. They should be favorite. Here's the
38:19
Speaker 9: Jazz quick their schedule. They played the Nuggets mentioned I
38:22
Speaker 9: mentioned on Friday night, then Saturday night at Sun's, next Monday,
38:26
Speaker 9: Calves at home, next Wednesday, the first April first fools
38:31
Speaker 9: there imagine Nuggets at home Friday, the Rockets away, Thunder
38:37
Speaker 9: on Sunday, the eighth away then then then the the
38:42
Speaker 9: Pelicans and the Grizzlies, and the last game of the
38:44
Speaker 9: year in LA against the Lakers, and the Lakers probably
38:48
Speaker 9: are fighting to hold off the third or fourth seed
38:52
Speaker 9: right now, so the Jazz should have a great opportunity
38:56
Speaker 9: to keep their lottery pick.
38:59
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Nugget, so that's an upcoming opponent for
39:01
Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz. The Nuggets got fifty three out of
39:04
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray and Jokic had a twenty twenty twenty triple double. Now,
39:13
Speaker 3: we've seen plenty of games where a guy just goes
39:16
Speaker 3: off right and his teammates facilitate and sometimes stand back
39:20
Speaker 3: at all. When two guys are doing it at the
39:23
Speaker 3: same time, what is that like for a locker room,
39:27
Speaker 3: for a bansit center.
39:29
Speaker 9: It's absolutely uplifting and it's how they did it. Jamal
39:32
Speaker 9: Murray fifty three point. Let's not forget it's Krea High's
39:35
Speaker 9: fifty five points last night against the Mavericks in a
39:39
Speaker 9: one two, one thirty five victory at home over over
39:43
Speaker 9: the Mavericks. Jamal Murray goes nineteen for twenty eight from
39:47
Speaker 9: the field, nine for fourteen for three. Give me the
39:50
Speaker 9: hossauk please here at Willie's six to six from the
39:54
Speaker 9: foul line, six rebounds and four assist and so it
39:57
Speaker 9: was one for the ages for Jamal Murray. Now is
40:01
Speaker 9: trusted sidekick and you could debate that who's number one,
40:04
Speaker 9: it's Nicola Jokic. Last night's game was his thirtieth time
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Speaker 9: this year with a triple double thirty times triple double.
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Speaker 9: Just put it in context, John Stockton had one triple
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Speaker 9: double his whole career in nineteen years, and Carl Malone
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Speaker 9: had four triple doubles in his nineteen years in Korea.
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Speaker 9: Jokies has thirty in one season. So and Yoki's gonna
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Speaker 9: catch Russell Westbrook for the most ever triple doubles relatively shortly,
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Speaker 9: probably next season. A. Yoki's last night triple double twenty
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Speaker 9: three points, twenty one rebounds, nineteen assists, and Sean only
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Speaker 9: one turnover. So against the Mavericks defense trying to probably
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Speaker 9: fallum trip them, hook him, you know, do all the
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Speaker 9: things that players try to do illegally and or illegally,
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Speaker 9: he had only has one turnover. And Jokic, for everybody
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Speaker 9: that's always so immersed about players jumping so high getting rebounds, Sean,
41:01
Speaker 9: I've coached some guys that can't jump over to Sunday
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Speaker 9: New York Times get rebounds. Other guys can jump, parachute,
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Speaker 9: jump up in the air and get very few rebounds.
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Speaker 9: Joki is a class example. We called it hip to
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Speaker 9: hip rebounder. He goes to the guy's bodies planning against him,
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Speaker 9: uses hip as far as leverage, and then gets that
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Speaker 9: rebound and that's what makes him so special. Jokice, Now
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Speaker 9: here's a discussion right now, Sean, who's the MVP. There's
41:26
Speaker 9: no bad choices of this when Beyond is barking, which
41:30
Speaker 9: I understand, and he's rightfully so he's saying I should
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Speaker 9: be MVP, which you make a very very discussion for that.
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Speaker 8: Jokice has been MVP three times.
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Speaker 9: He's been voted for the last five years. He's voting
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Speaker 9: the one or two MVP and the winner last year
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Speaker 9: is Chides Alexander are his Jokis This year he's first
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Speaker 9: in the NBA in rebounds and first in the NBA
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Speaker 9: and assist assists ten point eight rebounds, twelve point eight rebounds,
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Speaker 9: and he's eighth in the NBA in scoring. And he
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Speaker 9: is the sole reasonabhy Him and Jamal Murray, both of
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Speaker 9: them duel as far as them winning. Aaron Gordon is
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Speaker 9: Aaron Gordon is now He's still not playing right now.
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Speaker 9: Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray and Nikolai Jokic have only played
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Speaker 9: the whole season this year on the court together twenty
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Speaker 9: nine minutes Sewan total.
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Speaker 8: That's it, Aaron.
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Speaker 9: Gordon and Nikolai Jokic and Jamal Murray when they're together
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Speaker 9: as far as any game, the record is seventeen and six.
42:36
Speaker 9: So when they get back Aaron Gordon, don't do not
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Speaker 9: count out the Denver Nuggets.
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Speaker 8: They got back.
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Speaker 9: They got back recently Peyton Watson of the right Hampshire injury,
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Speaker 9: and he's a major young talent for them and the
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Speaker 9: Nuggets will be a force. So they just play them
42:52
Speaker 9: on Friday Night. They play him on Aprils Foolsday April
42:55
Speaker 9: first year, and the Nuggets they're they're series. They're trying
42:57
Speaker 9: to they're trying to bite fighting claw.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday we had one of the least surprising headlines, but
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Speaker 3: still an important one. And we have not yet got
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Speaker 3: Gordy's reaction to the news that the NBA has approved
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Speaker 3: the idea to look at Las Vegas and Seattle's expansion markets.
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Speaker 3: We've touched on this in the past, but it's getting
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Speaker 3: a lot more serious now. We're going to get to
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Speaker 3: it with Gordiachia's Eric Weddle is still going to join
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Speaker 3: us in about fifteen minutes. We are full speed ahead
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Speaker 1: You tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the murdoch
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Speaker 8: And my list today. NCA Universities.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the shatt Bottle Show live at Big Willie,
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Speaker 3: seventeen seventeen South May. They've just dropped off the food,
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Speaker 3: the spinach salad. Look, there's a bunch of great bar
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Speaker 2: With your diet, but this thing is in credible.
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Speaker 2: So something for.
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Speaker 3: Everyone down here at Big Willie's. All right, Gordyon and
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Speaker 3: I have discussed this in the past. Gordon Chez is
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Speaker 3: sitting in and now the NBA Board of Governors have
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Speaker 3: approved unanimously to explore the bids and applications for expansion
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Speaker 3: teams in Vegas and in Seattle. It's just in Vegas
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Speaker 3: in Seattle. Nobody else gets to throw their name in
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Speaker 3: the hat, at least in this method of approval. And
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Speaker 3: it's going to cost seven to ten billion dollars for
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Speaker 3: your place at the table. We know what that looks like.
45:43
Speaker 3: It's the jeff Bezos of the world. Elon Musk hasn't
45:45
Speaker 3: really shown a lot of interest in sports at this point.
45:48
Speaker 3: It's venture capital firms, it's foreign investment in some cases.
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Speaker 3: Gordon and I were talking about that during the break.
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Speaker 3: But my question yesterday Gordy, when this again unsurprising headline
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Speaker 3: came out, I was like, Okay, when you look at
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Speaker 3: the fans and you look at the players, and you
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Speaker 3: look at the league as a whole, right now, is
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Speaker 3: the talent pool already excessively dilute? Do we want to
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Speaker 3: add a couple of teams to you know, make go
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Speaker 3: from thirty to thirty two, where suddenly you've now gotten
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Speaker 3: instead of five teams tanking. Now, if the rules don't change,
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Speaker 3: now you got seven teams at the bottom of the
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Speaker 3: league tanking. How do you address the the I don't
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Speaker 3: want to say lack of talent, but the disbursement of
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Speaker 3: talent across two whole extra franchises.
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Speaker 9: Well, the way you do that is there's many players
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Speaker 9: in the NBA and the G League and playing in Europe.
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Speaker 9: The primitive guys could absolutely answer teams. The question is
46:49
Speaker 9: that there's very little as far as big guys, as
46:53
Speaker 9: far as mount so the expansion teams will have a
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Speaker 9: whole bunch of primitive guys that you can make a
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Speaker 9: narrative that can play in the NBA and play relativity well.
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Speaker 9: But it's the big guys. And so there are enough
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Speaker 9: really big guys, meaning we'll say either stretch centers that
47:09
Speaker 9: can pick and pop, play outside or play old school
47:12
Speaker 9: bully ball in the lane and get buckets for you
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Speaker 9: as far especially in crunch time. So yes, on perimeter,
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Speaker 9: there's plenty of guys around the world that can play
47:22
Speaker 9: in the play in the NBA and play relatively well,
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Speaker 9: but there's a lack of a numbers of a skilled
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Speaker 9: big players. So that's gonna be the lumber right now.
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Speaker 9: But with that said though, they're gonna go forward with
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Speaker 9: it and there'll be an expansion draft and the target
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Speaker 9: year for the teams to come in is the twenty
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Speaker 9: eight to twenty ninth season. And just for the listeners,
47:45
Speaker 9: the last time there was an expansion draft in the
47:48
Speaker 9: NBA and the Jazz were involved with it back in
47:51
Speaker 9: two thousand and four. That's one of the Charlotte Bobcats. Yes,
47:55
Speaker 9: I said, Bobcats relocated to Newallans and after the two
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Speaker 9: thousand and three season, and then New Orleans rebranded their
48:05
Speaker 9: team to be called the Pelicans, then the Bobcats. After
48:11
Speaker 9: setting out just one year of not having a franchise,
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Speaker 9: they started a new franchise for the four to five
48:17
Speaker 9: season and they renamed the renamed themselves again the Hornets.
48:22
Speaker 9: So the Bobcats moved to the became the Pelicans. There
48:27
Speaker 9: was no team in Charlotte for one year, the two
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Speaker 9: thousand and fourth season. In two thousand and five, they
48:32
Speaker 9: rebranded it to be the the Charlotte Hornets and Jazz best.
48:37
Speaker 9: I remember in jazz basketball, it's called the expansion draft,
48:40
Speaker 9: where each team is allowed to protect eight players and
48:43
Speaker 9: the rest of the rosters up as far as interpretation,
48:46
Speaker 9: they the expansion team can take one guy if they
48:49
Speaker 9: choose off your roster. The last Jazz player to be
48:55
Speaker 9: an expansion draft was a guy named Sasha Plovich, all right,
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Speaker 9: and he was a Serb and then never played for
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Speaker 9: the bobcast because the Bob got selected him from the Jazz.
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Speaker 9: But he got traded to the Cavaliers and was the
49:07
Speaker 9: starting forward with Lebron James at the Cavaliers. And so
49:11
Speaker 9: what happens that so the Jazz gave up on Sasha Paulovitch.
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Speaker 9: A little side note showing I know you love Hollywood stories.
49:19
Speaker 9: So in case you're wondering, Nick Bussevich a s Serbian
49:23
Speaker 9: guy from the Celtics. His girlfriend is Sasa Pavich's sister.
49:28
Speaker 9: Oh wow, So I know that you love you love
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Speaker 9: this this stuff in Hollywood.
49:33
Speaker 8: You're trying.
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Speaker 3: I do love it.
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Speaker 9: And so now the owners are gonna benefit, which they
49:38
Speaker 9: should because they have the most risks. Each owner is
49:41
Speaker 9: going to probably get for the expansion fee, is going
49:44
Speaker 9: to get six hundred and fifty million dollars or more.
49:48
Speaker 8: So each owner of the NBA.
49:50
Speaker 9: Will receive for the expansion fee to let to let
49:53
Speaker 9: these two August teams come in as far as in
49:57
Speaker 9: the league and share in the profit as far especially
50:01
Speaker 9: in the national TV contracts. We'll get six hundred and
50:03
Speaker 9: fifty million dollars. So it's Willie bonus formosa insane.
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Speaker 3: We have.
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Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen basketball today.
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Speaker 3: If you go to ESPN seven hundred sports dot com
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Speaker 3: and check in on your bracket the million dollar Bracket Challenge,
50:21
Speaker 3: none of us, none of us is going to be
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Speaker 3: winning the none of us is going to be winning
50:28
Speaker 3: the million dollars with a perfect bracket. Gordy, you're above me.
50:32
Speaker 3: And you're above James. You've got Duke winning it all.
50:36
Speaker 3: Your bracket's relatively healthy.
50:38
Speaker 9: But sure I feel bad for you because you filling
50:40
Speaker 9: out your bracket when you're you're you were talking to
50:44
Speaker 9: the gorillas.
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Speaker 2: That's that is true, So I use that as my excuse.
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Speaker 9: No, no, I mean fantasy to you. You were you
50:49
Speaker 9: with the gorillas. I don't mean rebound this, I mean
50:53
Speaker 9: as far as a crashing the.
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Speaker 2: Glass, I mean literal mountain guerrillas.
50:57
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Matt's so, really you get a Hall
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Speaker 9: this year.
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Speaker 3: It's a first world problem when you're when you're doing
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Speaker 3: something like that.
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Speaker 8: But has anybody got all of them? Right? Though? Really
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Speaker 8: in the whole country, No, is that one person.
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Speaker 3: There's no perfect brackets left in any in any place.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the odds of getting a fully perfect
51:17
Speaker 3: bracket are in the quintillions, one and a quintillion, right.
51:20
Speaker 3: It's insane because the permutations are are so obsessive with
51:23
Speaker 3: a bracket like this one. But you know, we've had
51:26
Speaker 3: years where someone will make it into the Sweet sixteen
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Speaker 3: still with a perfect bracket or something like that. Already
51:31
Speaker 3: there's nobody with a perfect bracket in any of the
51:33
Speaker 3: contests around the country.
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Speaker 9: And the reason why it's the great unknown. That's the
51:38
Speaker 9: beauty of much madness. I had the privilege to be
51:40
Speaker 9: to go to the final four, and let me tell you,
51:43
Speaker 9: it's intense and every possession does matter. One time Sean
51:48
Speaker 9: took about fate and luck. I'll just tell you what
51:51
Speaker 9: happened in nineteen eighty seven. Many people would have been
51:53
Speaker 9: born yet, but this is what happened. Providence College. We're
51:56
Speaker 9: playing in the second round against Austin. Pay all right
51:59
Speaker 9: out a Clocksville. Ya see the Friars are It's a
52:05
Speaker 9: tie score with two seconds left, and we fouled.
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Speaker 8: We fouled the guy going through the basket.
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Speaker 9: The guys in the foul line two shot, foul sewn
52:15
Speaker 9: with two seconds left, he makes one. The Friars do
52:19
Speaker 9: not advance into the sweet sixteen. The guy misses the
52:23
Speaker 9: first one, we call time out. The guy missed the
52:27
Speaker 9: second one. We missed time to rebound by this crazy
52:31
Speaker 9: Canadian guy named David Kiffer who is from Ontario, Kitchener, Ontario,
52:36
Speaker 9: who's a crazy guy in Providence College who's a good rebounder.
52:39
Speaker 9: He mistimed it and the guy missed the tipping at
52:43
Speaker 9: the buzzer.
52:43
Speaker 8: We go overtime.
52:45
Speaker 9: Believe the kid Donovan who's not reported might be the
52:48
Speaker 9: head coach in North County of Tahels scores like seven
52:50
Speaker 9: points in the overtime. We beat Austin p Then we
52:54
Speaker 9: beat Alabama by fifteen, then we beat Georgetown by twenty.
52:58
Speaker 9: We get to the final four in New Orleans. Then
53:00
Speaker 9: we play Syracuse or Arch trifle and losing National semi finals.
53:04
Speaker 9: That's talk about luck. Two shot foul, two seconds left,
53:09
Speaker 9: ty score both missed them both and whilso we missed
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Speaker 9: time to rebound.
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Speaker 8: That's even more crazy.
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Speaker 3: It's luck good saying you have Billy Donovan because you
53:21
Speaker 3: brought that up. North Carolina is one of these blue
53:24
Speaker 3: blood jobs, right Hubert Davis separated from his duties, and
53:29
Speaker 3: there's a big conversation about whether you got to go
53:32
Speaker 3: within the North Carolina family. I know that there's certain
53:34
Speaker 3: places where that's important to a fan base, to an
53:38
Speaker 3: athletic department, et cetera. It feels like maybe now is
53:41
Speaker 3: the time to get away from that for North Carolina.
53:43
Speaker 3: But you tell me.
53:45
Speaker 8: That's an understanding.
53:46
Speaker 9: The answer is, guess why in this social media era
53:50
Speaker 9: in this nil. The whole thing has changed so less
53:53
Speaker 9: time that the Carolina Tar Hills did not have a
53:57
Speaker 9: Carolina former coach or love to be the head mentor
54:02
Speaker 9: of their team was Dean Smith back in nineteen sixty one.
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Speaker 2: Well that worked out.
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Speaker 8: Okay, it worked out pretty good.
54:09
Speaker 9: Dean coached there thirty six years and then coach k
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Speaker 9: coach Duke for forty two years. Remember now, for the listeners,
54:15
Speaker 9: Chapel Hill and Dormnath, Carolina are separated by ten miles,
54:20
Speaker 9: So be like it'd be like Utah and BYU separated
54:25
Speaker 9: ten miles.
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Speaker 3: Utah stays where they're at and BYU is in Midvale, Midville.
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Speaker 9: That's exactly right. Okay, good, I like that. Now, Midvale.
54:33
Speaker 9: That's how crazy it is. Unless you do this for
54:37
Speaker 9: a living or live there or a graduate of UNLC
54:41
Speaker 9: or of Duke University, you can't imagine like the intensity
54:46
Speaker 9: and the interwoven of alumni of that after that. So,
54:50
Speaker 9: Billy Donovan, who's coaching the Bulls right now, and the
54:53
Speaker 9: Bulls are struggling. The record right now the Bulls is
54:57
Speaker 9: twenty nine and forty three. They we will make the
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Speaker 9: players for the last three years. Now, if I counsel
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Speaker 9: my former player, Billy Donovan. I'm saying to him, the
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Speaker 9: former a great coach of the Florida Gators. He's in
55:10
Speaker 9: the Hall of Fame. As far as that is that
55:12
Speaker 9: they hrere Billy Donovan, they get a Hall of Fame
55:15
Speaker 9: coach that understands economics the NL money.
55:19
Speaker 1: Now.
55:20
Speaker 9: The general manager of the Carolina tar Heels is a
55:23
Speaker 9: former agent, Jim Tanner, and his contracts is not up
55:27
Speaker 9: until July thirtieth, so it has to be in lockstep
55:32
Speaker 9: between the coaching staff and the general manager of the team.
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Speaker 8: So we'll find out.
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Speaker 3: Gordon, do you have a list for us today?
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Speaker 8: List today? My list today is for.
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Speaker 9: Exclusive list of NBA universities with two or more men's
55:51
Speaker 9: basketball titles. So these blue blood schools two or more.
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Speaker 8: Here we are with two with two titles.
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Speaker 9: Oklahoma State, University of San Francisco, University of Cincinnati, University
56:09
Speaker 9: of Louisville, North China State, and Michigan State, who was
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Speaker 9: trying to get their third one because they're in it
56:17
Speaker 9: with three NBA titles, The Villanova Wildcats and University of
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Speaker 9: Florida Gators, who won it last year. Back in twenty
56:25
Speaker 9: twenty five with four NCAA titles, Kandice University the last
56:30
Speaker 9: time was twenty twenty two with five NCAA men's titles.
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Speaker 9: They are Indiana Hoosiers and the Duke Blue Devils, who
56:39
Speaker 9: were trying to get their sixth to one and so
56:43
Speaker 9: the last time Duke won the championship shown was two
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Speaker 9: thy fifteen.
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Speaker 8: That's over.
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Speaker 9: It could be eleven years ago with six NBA it's
56:53
Speaker 9: gonna be six NCAA titles. I just mentioned north TONA Taheels,
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Speaker 9: they've been champions for six times, James the last time
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Speaker 9: twenty and seventeen, and Yukon Huskies who won it back
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Speaker 9: in twenty three and twenty four. They're trying to chase
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Speaker 9: their seventh. With eight ncaaight championships. Is the Kentucky Wildcats,
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Speaker 9: the last title was twenty twelve, and the number one
57:18
Speaker 9: team with the most ever NCAA titles is the UCLA
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Speaker 9: Bruins with eleven. The last time the Bruins won an
57:26
Speaker 9: NCAA championship was nineteen ninety five, which is now the Mets.
57:30
Speaker 9: Correct is thirty one years ago. That's how hard is
57:33
Speaker 9: to win? What about locally here du Res, Utah, the
57:37
Speaker 9: last time they won an NCAA title in men's basketball
57:41
Speaker 9: was in nineteen forty four. Yes, Sean, I was not
57:44
Speaker 9: born in nineteen forty four, in case you're wondering, that
57:47
Speaker 9: was during World War Two.
57:49
Speaker 8: That was eighty two years ago.
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Speaker 9: That's when standout player was a guy named Arnie Ferrin
57:55
Speaker 9: led the uth To to the NCAA championship. BYU had
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Speaker 9: never won an NCAA men's basketball championship, and they're shining
58:04
Speaker 9: right now hard. Thus, Sean, that's my listen today of
58:08
Speaker 9: NCAA Championships. Who's gonna be Will it be Yukon, Will
58:11
Speaker 9: it be Duke, Will it be Michigan State, Will it
58:14
Speaker 9: be someone else?
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Speaker 8: We're gonna find.
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Speaker 3: Out that's Gorda Chiesa, our resident NBA guru. We're gonna
58:20
Speaker 3: give him some time to eat his casadia. Eric Weddle's
58:24
Speaker 3: gonna join us. On the other side. We're down here
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Speaker 3: at Big Willie's seventeen seventeen South main Terrence Murphy's also
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Speaker 3: going to join us in the next segment, the new
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Speaker 3: owner of Love Salt Lake Volleyball, a former Texas A
58:36
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58:39
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58:43
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Speaker 10: How are you, my brother?
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Speaker 11: Doing great? Living the dream and just trying to be
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Speaker 11: the best I can be staying and there. I've been
1:00:13
Speaker 11: inspired by being around uh Galley and the guys.
1:00:17
Speaker 10: And even BYU just the great coaches and men, but
1:00:21
Speaker 10: more so Utah just because it's a new flavor, new energy,
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Speaker 10: and uh, you know, I'm a better coach and teacher
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Speaker 10: being around those guys up there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bummed I missed you while you were in
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Speaker 3: town because you know, I was on an exotic international vacation.
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Speaker 3: So it's a first world problem.
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Speaker 10: But oh my god, can we can we go hang out?
1:00:40
Speaker 2: Or yeah, no, it's we can hang out for now.
1:00:44
Speaker 10: It's cool, okay, okay, but yeah.
1:00:46
Speaker 3: Give me give me some details, right because there's like
1:00:49
Speaker 3: all of us love Morgan, and the energy is different
1:00:51
Speaker 3: and things like that. But there's limited access. Increased access certainly,
1:00:56
Speaker 3: but limited access, and you know, you don't know if
1:00:59
Speaker 3: expectations and reality are going to meet up. So the
1:01:03
Speaker 3: whole game. He took over now his first springball camp,
1:01:06
Speaker 3: and you were up there hanging out and getting to
1:01:08
Speaker 3: watch these things and see how it's actually happening. How
1:01:11
Speaker 3: is it different than the way that Kyle Whittingham did tis.
1:01:15
Speaker 9: Well?
1:01:15
Speaker 10: I think for one, seeing him in front of the
1:01:20
Speaker 10: entire team and preaching and going over the culture and
1:01:28
Speaker 10: the identity and vision and everything everything that that entails
1:01:36
Speaker 10: on a day to day basis. Seeing that and seeing
1:01:39
Speaker 10: how the boys gravitates towards that, I think it's probably
1:01:44
Speaker 10: the biggest different Maybe you know, I always felt like
1:01:50
Speaker 10: the defense and the offense. There are two different teams
1:01:52
Speaker 10: at the University of Utah, right Coach Lovewi did his
1:01:55
Speaker 10: thing and he did a great job. But Morgan had
1:01:57
Speaker 10: his identity and they played like it well now and
1:02:01
Speaker 10: Hiratina's like that. Then you're adding the coaches and their
1:02:06
Speaker 10: personalities and their excitement, and yeah, it's just still the
1:02:10
Speaker 10: honeymoon stage. But you have a great foundation of what
1:02:15
Speaker 10: your expectations are, what your standards are. When you're honest,
1:02:18
Speaker 10: you're up front with what that is and what that
1:02:20
Speaker 10: looks like and reinforcing it. It's going to be at
1:02:24
Speaker 10: the RETSI for a lot of success over the long haul.
1:02:30
Speaker 3: Do you find the lens through which you look at
1:02:35
Speaker 3: practice at Utah, at Byu, at wherever? Does it change
1:02:39
Speaker 3: based on the idea that you know your son is
1:02:42
Speaker 3: a highly rated recruit who in the next couple of
1:02:44
Speaker 3: years is going to be making a choice about the
1:02:47
Speaker 3: kind of place he wants to go. Does the dad
1:02:50
Speaker 3: version of Eric Weddle affect the football version of Eric
1:02:53
Speaker 3: Weddle when you're at these practices?
1:02:56
Speaker 12: Uh, you know it's.
1:03:00
Speaker 10: I'm just, honestly just there to support him and love
1:03:04
Speaker 10: him and give him sound advice when he wants it.
1:03:09
Speaker 10: And he's really got a good head on his shoulders
1:03:12
Speaker 10: and really proud of the man he's becoming. So I
1:03:16
Speaker 10: don't want to I don't want to put any more
1:03:18
Speaker 10: stress and pressure on him than there already is. I mean,
1:03:21
Speaker 10: every day he's got the way of the world on him.
1:03:23
Speaker 10: So I'm trying to living that up and to remind
1:03:27
Speaker 10: him that life is good and football is fun and
1:03:31
Speaker 10: this is your dream that you've got to work for
1:03:33
Speaker 10: it but also enjoy it. So I just while I'm
1:03:36
Speaker 10: out there, I try to I try to learn and
1:03:40
Speaker 10: grow as a as a coach and as a as
1:03:42
Speaker 10: a as a mentor and a teacher, and then for him,
1:03:45
Speaker 10: I try to sit back and evaluate what I'm seeing
1:03:51
Speaker 10: as a player's perspective, if he is in this situation,
1:03:55
Speaker 10: what that looks like, how is he going to handle that?
1:03:58
Speaker 10: Coaching teams could sure all that stuff. I'm just trying
1:04:02
Speaker 10: to put mental notes so when he goes from place
1:04:06
Speaker 10: to place, that can remind him of how he felt,
1:04:09
Speaker 10: what he thought, and thy can contrast and compare and
1:04:13
Speaker 10: where it goes.
1:04:15
Speaker 3: What did you see from Jordan Gross, the Utah offensive
1:04:19
Speaker 3: line coach. Obviously you knew him as a player, you
1:04:22
Speaker 3: knew him as an NFL player. He's been a high
1:04:25
Speaker 3: school head coach like you are now up in Idaho.
1:04:28
Speaker 3: But it's a different game going back to your alma
1:04:31
Speaker 3: mater and coaching a position group that has some big
1:04:34
Speaker 3: old shoes to fill. So what did you see from
1:04:37
Speaker 3: Jordan Gross coaching his group?
1:04:39
Speaker 10: Oh? I saw confident experience. Experience is kind of like
1:04:46
Speaker 10: a hyperbole, is that you know he doesn't have much experience,
1:04:50
Speaker 10: But I saw a confident experience coach that knows what
1:04:53
Speaker 10: he's doing, has a plan, has a great energy, great
1:04:56
Speaker 10: excitement is an extension of the head coach what he
1:05:00
Speaker 10: believes and what his his direction is for position groups too.
1:05:06
Speaker 10: And then coach from given with the offensive staff and
1:05:08
Speaker 10: the offense philosit and I mean, honestly, when you're a coach,
1:05:14
Speaker 10: I don't know like you just uh, coach is not
1:05:18
Speaker 10: a coach, right, doesn't matter the level obviously there's different
1:05:21
Speaker 10: levels of experience and where you win and how your
1:05:24
Speaker 10: background is and what you've learned. But the bottom line
1:05:27
Speaker 10: is is he's an incredible teacher and coach. And on
1:05:32
Speaker 10: the recruiting show, I mean I saw him a bunch
1:05:33
Speaker 10: of times in San Diego when he came down and
1:05:36
Speaker 10: he was happy, smiling, and and you're gonna see big
1:05:39
Speaker 10: time recruits come to Utah because of Jordan Rivers.
1:05:45
Speaker 3: Eric Wedos our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show,
1:05:47
Speaker 3: talking all things football. Right now, we're focused on the utes, uh,
1:05:51
Speaker 3: for for you who from the moment you showed up
1:05:55
Speaker 3: on campus like big time talent, great player. The coaches
1:06:00
Speaker 3: knew it, the teammates knew it, the fans got to
1:06:03
Speaker 3: know it relatively quickly. What was your relationship with spring football.
1:06:07
Speaker 3: For guys that are way down at the bottom of
1:06:09
Speaker 3: the ladder, spring football is the super Bowl. It's the
1:06:13
Speaker 3: only time you get real reps. It's your chance to
1:06:15
Speaker 3: hopefully catch some attention, maybe earn yourself a little bit
1:06:18
Speaker 3: of a spot on game day. For guys like you
1:06:21
Speaker 3: who can roll out of bed and be better than
1:06:23
Speaker 3: most people. What was your relationship with spring football.
1:06:28
Speaker 10: Well, my first off season the spring, I fractured my back,
1:06:33
Speaker 10: so I missed the first spring ball my going into
1:06:36
Speaker 10: my sophomore year, and so it's obviously important. I don't
1:06:43
Speaker 10: want to say like I was back for summer and
1:06:46
Speaker 10: it worked out all right, But I think it's a
1:06:49
Speaker 10: great time to develop, to work on things that you
1:06:53
Speaker 10: need to when you identified those areas to improve. And
1:06:57
Speaker 10: it's about competition, man. I told the guy everywhere I go,
1:07:00
Speaker 10: I tell him you're you're on a play to play,
1:07:04
Speaker 10: day to day basis in this profession. So college football
1:07:09
Speaker 10: is very different than it was twenty years ago, where
1:07:12
Speaker 10: you have four to five years to develop. You're gonna
1:07:16
Speaker 10: get coached that like you got to understand. The mindset
1:07:18
Speaker 10: is when I cross those white lines, I'm out to
1:07:20
Speaker 10: prove that I'm the man. I'm the guy to run
1:07:23
Speaker 10: this defense or to play quarterback or the play recived.
1:07:27
Speaker 10: Be like, whatever your position is, you've got to prove
1:07:29
Speaker 10: it day in and day out. And if you're not
1:07:30
Speaker 10: improven and you're not eager to accelerate that process and
1:07:37
Speaker 10: really be pushed in challenge, then you're just gonna get
1:07:39
Speaker 10: left behind. You're gonna give replaced. So Spreme ball is pivotal.
1:07:45
Speaker 10: I think it's a chance to really get least some
1:07:48
Speaker 10: bounds from year one to year two, and then it's
1:07:51
Speaker 10: really going to decide whether you stay in the program
1:07:53
Speaker 10: or not.
1:07:55
Speaker 3: How well have you gotten to know Colton Swan, who's
1:07:58
Speaker 3: taken over for you know, take it over this defense
1:08:01
Speaker 3: that you know so well and obviously you ran so well,
1:08:04
Speaker 3: but it's belonged to Morgan for a long time, and
1:08:07
Speaker 3: now Colton Swan gets his crack at it. How well
1:08:09
Speaker 3: do you know him?
1:08:10
Speaker 10: Oh, Colton's the man. He's always been so gracious and
1:08:16
Speaker 10: really I look at some of the best coaches leaders
1:08:21
Speaker 10: that I've been around, and they're always kind of come
1:08:23
Speaker 10: from the same mold of being humble, having some humility,
1:08:27
Speaker 10: and always willing to listen in and to adapt right.
1:08:32
Speaker 10: And so yeah, the core of the defense is is
1:08:35
Speaker 10: who we are. Started with coach with and then Killane,
1:08:40
Speaker 10: coach Anderson and Morgan and now Swan's the next guy
1:08:46
Speaker 10: in successions. But it doesn't it doesn't mean you can't
1:08:48
Speaker 10: put your own flavor and put his new wrinkles and
1:08:53
Speaker 10: put your own flavor on the team, because that's how
1:08:56
Speaker 10: you get better, and that's how you entrovise, and that's
1:08:58
Speaker 10: how you stay ahead of the curves. So he's done that.
1:09:01
Speaker 10: Being in the meetings, he allowed me to be in
1:09:02
Speaker 10: the defense staff meeting allowed me to just be a
1:09:06
Speaker 10: fly on the wall and being able to chime in
1:09:09
Speaker 10: on things that I saw that maybe some improvements or
1:09:13
Speaker 10: maybe try this, and always just really gracious and wanting
1:09:18
Speaker 10: a round. So I'm excited for him, excited for the
1:09:21
Speaker 10: defense to continue our standard, but also add some wrinkles
1:09:25
Speaker 10: into Mixcter, this.
1:09:27
Speaker 3: Is not a Utah football question. How come you weren't
1:09:30
Speaker 3: out there playing flag football with all those NFL guys
1:09:33
Speaker 3: at the TVSA Flag Football Challenge.
1:09:36
Speaker 10: No, do these guys know that, Like the flag is
1:09:41
Speaker 10: not real football for one too. These guys are like
1:09:45
Speaker 10: this is their world, this is their Super Bowl and
1:09:48
Speaker 10: they just got embarrassed on there. So you couldn't pay
1:09:50
Speaker 10: me enough one to go out there against these flag
1:09:53
Speaker 10: dudes that you do some of those moves and you're
1:09:55
Speaker 10: dead on the football fields, but out here you're making
1:09:58
Speaker 10: it sook silly because this is not our game. Man.
1:10:01
Speaker 10: We got to know what we're good at and not
1:10:03
Speaker 10: be prideful enough to go out there and embarrass So
1:10:07
Speaker 10: you won't see me out there. You won't see me
1:10:08
Speaker 10: running or cutting or anythings. I've basically retired my athleticism
1:10:14
Speaker 10: so I don't get hurt for the rest of my life.
1:10:17
Speaker 3: I will say this is something I appreciate about you,
1:10:21
Speaker 3: and it cracks me up. About every other NFL player
1:10:24
Speaker 3: that I know, there's and I understand the mentality has value,
1:10:27
Speaker 3: especially when you're talking about how dangerous and competitive the
1:10:31
Speaker 3: NFL is. But I have never met an NFL player
1:10:34
Speaker 3: besides you, basically who doesn't think they're good at everything,
1:10:38
Speaker 3: that they're the best at everything. I've every NFL player
1:10:41
Speaker 3: I've talked to about the fight game, there's like, yeah,
1:10:43
Speaker 3: I could, I could go out there, I could beat you.
1:10:45
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, stop it.
1:10:47
Speaker 3: Like I'm also great at basketball, I could also hit
1:10:51
Speaker 3: a fastball up. I'm like, no, you are to make
1:10:54
Speaker 3: it to the NFL. You're an a lead, you're a freak,
1:10:56
Speaker 3: You're an unbelievable athlete. It doesn't mean you're great at
1:11:00
Speaker 3: every single thing, and definitely not.
1:11:03
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of guys who do feel that way.
1:11:04
Speaker 3: You, thankfully or not among them.
1:11:07
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think I've been lucky and
1:11:11
Speaker 10: fortunate enough to be around elite people and their respective professions,
1:11:17
Speaker 10: and it becomes a reality really quick that I have
1:11:21
Speaker 10: no business, nor do I want to to even think
1:11:25
Speaker 10: that I'm on the same level at these guys, whether
1:11:27
Speaker 10: it's you and fighting, whether it's basketball players. Like I
1:11:30
Speaker 10: remember one offseason I was probably in prime basketball playing.
1:11:34
Speaker 10: This was probably early twenties, twenty three, twenty fours. I
1:11:37
Speaker 10: were playing adult leagues and this group of guys came
1:11:41
Speaker 10: from basically overseas to play us because we you know,
1:11:44
Speaker 10: we had like Gates Sea and we had MS Jackson
1:11:46
Speaker 10: and Knock employees, so we had a good team. And
1:11:49
Speaker 10: I remember vividly, these guys are like, you know, they
1:11:53
Speaker 10: can't even make a G league. I couldn't get by them.
1:11:58
Speaker 10: I couldn't get by them. I looked at myself as
1:12:02
Speaker 10: elite quickness and twitchiness. When I had the ball, I
1:12:06
Speaker 10: literally could not go by anybody. And I knew right
1:12:09
Speaker 10: then and there, I'm like, I had no business, Like
1:12:12
Speaker 10: I'm playing basketball for funds. Never will I disrespect the
1:12:16
Speaker 10: pros because there's just a whole no level and just say.
1:12:19
Speaker 10: It's like the same thing when people say, oh, I
1:12:22
Speaker 10: could go play football, It's like, well, you can't, because
1:12:25
Speaker 10: if you could, you would have.
1:12:27
Speaker 3: Oh that's right.
1:12:28
Speaker 10: I don't like in that world. No, I can't because
1:12:32
Speaker 10: I didn't and I'm not good enough. Pretty simple.
1:12:36
Speaker 3: Eric Weddle our guests for another couple of minutes here
1:12:38
Speaker 3: on the show. O'Connell show. Look, we're all ready to
1:12:41
Speaker 3: move on. We're all excited about Morgan taking over this program,
1:12:45
Speaker 3: and I wish Kyle Whittingham. Well, I know that there's
1:12:48
Speaker 3: a lot of people who don't. We had last week
1:12:51
Speaker 3: last Friday, Uh, the emails came out between the athletic
1:12:56
Speaker 3: department and coach wits agent and we saw kind of
1:13:00
Speaker 3: in stark relief what those conversations actually were and the hey,
1:13:05
Speaker 3: I want to come back, this is how much money
1:13:06
Speaker 3: I want. This is how much nil support I want.
1:13:09
Speaker 3: And then the athletic department response, we'll give you this
1:13:12
Speaker 3: much money. Instead, we're gonna let Morgan have final personnel
1:13:16
Speaker 3: decision making power starting basically right now, while you're the
1:13:20
Speaker 3: head coach, you're not making I mean, we saw it.
1:13:23
Speaker 3: It was insight into the details of a divorce, and
1:13:29
Speaker 3: so it feels a little ikey to read. But now
1:13:31
Speaker 3: we have more information. What did you take away from
1:13:34
Speaker 3: that new information?
1:13:36
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I look at it like, hey, coach
1:13:41
Speaker 10: was still wanted to coach. He had some things that
1:13:44
Speaker 10: he wanted. Admin said, Nah, we're not going to do that.
1:13:49
Speaker 10: Oak Woo didn't like it, and then they broke up.
1:13:51
Speaker 10: So and he still want to coach. I don't really
1:13:54
Speaker 10: think like one side is one side is the reason
1:14:01
Speaker 10: why coach would last and this and that's like, hey,
1:14:05
Speaker 10: at some point change was gonna happen. So it just
1:14:08
Speaker 10: happened now and both sides are happy. They're gonna crush
1:14:12
Speaker 10: it over there. I'm gonna see them next week, so
1:14:14
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give him a hug and know he's gonna
1:14:17
Speaker 10: be smiling. And so I don't at the end of
1:14:20
Speaker 10: the day just like Morgan said, like he owes to
1:14:23
Speaker 10: the players this university to focus all his time and
1:14:26
Speaker 10: energy on the University u SA, on the football team,
1:14:29
Speaker 10: not whatever happened in the past. And he he knows
1:14:32
Speaker 10: he had nothing to do with it, and he's excited
1:14:34
Speaker 10: in his role, and the same as Twist. So I
1:14:36
Speaker 10: think everyone just needs to kind of I'm down, and
1:14:40
Speaker 10: what it's done is done, and we're moving forward, and
1:14:43
Speaker 10: we could kind of kind of put it the rest
1:14:45
Speaker 10: and let let by guns be guys by guns, all.
1:14:49
Speaker 3: Right, before we let you go. Our next guest is
1:14:52
Speaker 3: Terrence Murphy, who you played against when he was at
1:14:56
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. He is now he's the new
1:14:59
Speaker 3: owner of the the professional volleyball team here in Salt
1:15:02
Speaker 3: Lake City. He was a second round draft pick in
1:15:05
Speaker 3: the NFL that had spinal stenosis. His career was ended
1:15:09
Speaker 3: after just a few games because of an injury. But
1:15:13
Speaker 3: what are your memories of Texas A and M, especially
1:15:18
Speaker 3: that game at Rice Cycles.
1:15:20
Speaker 10: Hotly? Oh well, and I remember it short lived because
1:15:23
Speaker 10: it for my NCL I think in the first quarter
1:15:26
Speaker 10: and he didn't get to play the rest of the game.
1:15:30
Speaker 10: But I watched on the sideline and we're crutches. But
1:15:34
Speaker 10: I remember the year before playing that was that was
1:15:36
Speaker 10: my first experience of holy stoms. I'm going from Alfalloma
1:15:40
Speaker 10: High School to a Kyle Field at TECHS A and M.
1:15:43
Speaker 10: And look looking up at their looking up at their
1:15:47
Speaker 10: the sea of fans like interlocked and going right to left,
1:15:50
Speaker 10: and I remember teenage getting motion sickness and when they're
1:15:53
Speaker 10: looking at it, and how coolse that game was. And
1:15:55
Speaker 10: I knew we had a good team coming back and
1:15:57
Speaker 10: we got after him at home. But yeah, it was
1:16:01
Speaker 10: like that was like you know that Oregon game, the
1:16:05
Speaker 10: Cow game the year before, Like those are like monumental
1:16:08
Speaker 10: wins for our program that kind of put us on
1:16:11
Speaker 10: a trajectory of being relevant and respected across the country.
1:16:18
Speaker 3: Well, those are great memories, great years. Sorry I missed you.
1:16:22
Speaker 3: When you're in town. I'll make up for it next time.
1:16:25
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
1:16:26
Speaker 10: We'll be up. Yeah, fourth of July that that week
1:16:29
Speaker 10: after for the design will be up. So I have
1:16:30
Speaker 10: to get the families to kill it.
1:16:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get him together.
1:16:33
Speaker 3: We'll go up and we'll take the boat up or something.
1:16:35
Speaker 10: All right, Yeah, let's do it, bro all right.
1:16:38
Speaker 3: Thanks dude, appreciate you. Love you, dude. That's Eric Weddle,
1:16:42
Speaker 3: the U tough football legend, NFL legend, I think future
1:16:46
Speaker 3: NFL Hall of Famer. That's my hope. At least sounds
1:16:51
Speaker 3: like he's headed out to Michigan next week. I hope
1:16:55
Speaker 3: he has a terrible experience there, just because I don't
1:16:58
Speaker 3: want his kid to go to Michigan. Anyway. We're down
1:17:01
Speaker 3: here at Big Willie seventeen seventeen, South Maine, and I'm
1:17:05
Speaker 3: halfway through my delicious lunch. We've got drink specials, we've
1:17:09
Speaker 3: got food specials. We've got Opening Day baseball on the
1:17:13
Speaker 3: big screens. We've got Sweet sixteen basketball coming later. Last
1:17:17
Speaker 3: night you had trivia, and Patrick, the mastermind of all
1:17:20
Speaker 3: things here at Big Willie, sits down with us to
1:17:24
Speaker 3: tell us more about what's going on.
1:17:25
Speaker 2: Hey, dude, how are you good?
1:17:26
Speaker 5: How are you?
1:17:27
Speaker 2: Thanks for having us out again.
1:17:28
Speaker 4: You're welcome. I'm a little disappointed in you today because
1:17:31
Speaker 4: I ordered something healthy.
1:17:32
Speaker 2: Yes, why look at me.
1:17:34
Speaker 5: I put puffs on the menu just for you.
1:17:37
Speaker 2: I'd need to start eating a little bit better. Look
1:17:38
Speaker 2: at me.
1:17:40
Speaker 5: So a cup of spinach is in the Uh?
1:17:43
Speaker 2: What you needed? Well?
1:17:45
Speaker 3: It's delicious.
1:17:46
Speaker 2: It is delicious.
1:17:48
Speaker 3: I mean, I know I probably overdo it on this,
1:17:51
Speaker 3: but like when you go to a bar and you
1:17:54
Speaker 3: order bar food, you're probably okay, Right, If you go
1:17:57
Speaker 3: to most bars and you order something that doesn't fit
1:17:59
Speaker 3: in like the fried category, you're probably not gonna enjoy
1:18:03
Speaker 3: your meal. When you come here at the Big Willies
1:18:05
Speaker 3: and you get something that's a little bit off kilter,
1:18:08
Speaker 3: like a spinach salad, like a healthy alternative.
1:18:11
Speaker 2: It's actually excellent.
1:18:12
Speaker 3: I mean, this belongs on any fine dining menu and
1:18:16
Speaker 3: it's here at a bar.
1:18:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, the spinach salad is excellent. The cop salad is phenomenal. Yeah,
1:18:25
Speaker 4: we have good food.
1:18:25
Speaker 3: Here, Okay, Sweet sixteen basketball happening this weekend, UFC Fight Night,
1:18:30
Speaker 3: this weekend PFL Fight Night, this weekend Opening Day baseball.
1:18:35
Speaker 3: You got a lot of things come.
1:18:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, good thing.
1:18:37
Speaker 4: We have a lot of TVs in the dining room,
1:18:39
Speaker 4: so we can broadcast all of those events at the
1:18:41
Speaker 4: same time. So no matter if you're coming in just
1:18:44
Speaker 4: for the PFL fights or UFC Fight Night, which happens
1:18:47
Speaker 4: to be a decent card this week with the basketball,
1:18:51
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1:19:29
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1:19:46
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Speaker 3: And by the way, come down early for the our
1:20:18
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Speaker 2: Just swing on by. It's the middle of the day.
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Speaker 3: We got a nice little crowd already, so people here
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Speaker 3: There's no I.
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1:21:15
Speaker 3: Thanks for bringing it up, Patrick, sorrynon knows that having
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Speaker 3: so smile, Thanks for having us out, Thanks you, Thanks
1:21:21
Speaker 3: you all right. The new owner of Love Volleyball Love
1:21:26
Speaker 3: Salt Lake, an emerging league of.
1:21:29
Speaker 2: Professional volleyball professional women's volleyball. Right now they're playing at
1:21:33
Speaker 2: Salt Lake Community College. The owner.
1:21:35
Speaker 3: The new owner happens to be a former college football
1:21:38
Speaker 3: All American from Texas A and m Terrence Murphy. Next
1:21:41
Speaker 3: on The Shawn O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred and ninety two.
1:21:49
Speaker 1: This is about Sean O'Connell show. You were home of
1:21:52
Speaker 1: the best inside of Hugh Hughes. Let's get back to
1:21:55
Speaker 1: OC from a Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN seven hundred
1:21:59
Speaker 1: Then am.
1:22:02
Speaker 13: Sean O'Connell show continues lucky enough now to welcome in
1:22:06
Speaker 13: Terrence Murphy, former NFL player, founder of Synergy Sports Capital,
1:22:10
Speaker 13: and most importantly for US here in Salt Lake City.
1:22:13
Speaker 13: The new owner of LVB Love Volleyball, Love Salt Lake,
1:22:18
Speaker 13: Terrence Murphy, Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show.
1:22:20
Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
1:22:22
Speaker 12: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, Sean.
1:22:24
Speaker 3: How you doing doing all right?
1:22:26
Speaker 2: Excited to talk to you about this.
1:22:28
Speaker 3: We've we've had we've had Love Salt Lake players in
1:22:33
Speaker 3: studio before, we've had We've talked to coaches. I've actually
1:22:38
Speaker 3: maybe I've run into the women involved with professional Volleyball
1:22:42
Speaker 3: and Salt Lake more at the airport than I have
1:22:44
Speaker 3: anywhere any any other people, any other athletes. I don't
1:22:47
Speaker 3: know why that's happening, but it's they stand out obviously then,
1:22:53
Speaker 3: and I guess my first question for you is why
1:22:58
Speaker 3: Salt Lake? Why an emerging women's volleyball professional league? Like,
1:23:03
Speaker 3: why did this interest you and your partners?
1:23:07
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great question. It may be a long answer,
1:23:09
Speaker 12: but I'll give it to you. So, growing up in
1:23:12
Speaker 12: East Texas, I have older brothers that played D one. Obviously,
1:23:15
Speaker 12: I was a D one athlete All American at tax
1:23:17
Speaker 12: A and M and got drafted by the Packers. But
1:23:22
Speaker 12: my closest sibling was my sister so she was a
1:23:24
Speaker 12: volleyball player. So that was my first introduction as the
1:23:27
Speaker 12: baby boy, having to shag the balls and go to
1:23:29
Speaker 12: the games. But then, you know, when I retired, got
1:23:33
Speaker 12: back my wife and I've been married for eighteen years,
1:23:36
Speaker 12: just had our eighteenth anniversary on eighteenth, and our oldest
1:23:40
Speaker 12: got into volleyball at a young age. So she's a
1:23:42
Speaker 12: setter here in Texas, played for Houston Skyline the Woodlands.
1:23:46
Speaker 12: And once again, you know, as a volleyball dad, you know,
1:23:50
Speaker 12: you want to help your kids be the best version
1:23:51
Speaker 12: of themselves. And so as I was investing in sports
1:23:55
Speaker 12: and investing in real estate and all the different things
1:23:58
Speaker 12: that I do know, private equity really just got approved
1:24:03
Speaker 12: in the last five or six years to invest in
1:24:05
Speaker 12: the Big Four, and so as I was watching that
1:24:07
Speaker 12: and tracking it, I just kept circling back to other
1:24:12
Speaker 12: sports like volleyball and soccer and all these things. And
1:24:15
Speaker 12: so the thesis of Synecy sports capital is investing in
1:24:20
Speaker 12: emerging leagues and teams with real estate development opportunities and
1:24:23
Speaker 12: sports adjacent businesses. And so as I was evaluating volleyball
1:24:27
Speaker 12: looking at the couple of leagues that were spurring up,
1:24:30
Speaker 12: love just kept circling back, and my daughter's in the
1:24:33
Speaker 12: Love system. And I've never seen a league that has
1:24:36
Speaker 12: a youth with college and then pro pathway, and that's
1:24:41
Speaker 12: really where it started my interest with Love.
1:24:45
Speaker 3: So that pathway. We have a lot of parents that
1:24:48
Speaker 3: listen to the show. We interact with people, especially on
1:24:51
Speaker 3: social media, talking about the sort of youth sports system
1:24:56
Speaker 3: as it is now. You and I are about the
1:24:58
Speaker 3: same age, and I don't know what your prep life
1:25:03
Speaker 3: was like, pre high school and Little league stuff, but
1:25:06
Speaker 3: it felt like we got to sign up for what we.
1:25:09
Speaker 2: Wanted to do.
1:25:10
Speaker 3: If you were an elite player, you'd probably get called
1:25:13
Speaker 3: by an all star team, you would emerge.
1:25:15
Speaker 2: The system feels a lot different now.
1:25:17
Speaker 3: We talk to a lot of parents who are like, man,
1:25:20
Speaker 3: I got this daughter who's incredibly talented. She's tall, she's
1:25:23
Speaker 3: a jumper, she's an athlete. I don't know if I'm
1:25:26
Speaker 3: helping her follow the right path to get a scholarship,
1:25:30
Speaker 3: maybe to pursue professional opportunities. Eventually.
1:25:32
Speaker 2: Club volleyball's crazy expensive.
1:25:35
Speaker 3: You're now involved in kind of the top line of this,
1:25:38
Speaker 3: and as we look at the pathway to get to
1:25:41
Speaker 3: a place like Love, if we talk about how you
1:25:44
Speaker 3: can play Division IE volleyball or basketball, or soccer or
1:25:49
Speaker 3: gymnastics or for whatever that matter. Are we serving from
1:25:52
Speaker 3: the top down with other leagues, the youth, the families
1:25:57
Speaker 3: that are trying to set their kids up for success.
1:26:00
Speaker 12: That's a great question, Sean. I think it's one of
1:26:03
Speaker 12: the things that attracted me to it being up obviosly
1:26:07
Speaker 12: football be one athlete and being in track and baseball
1:26:10
Speaker 12: and basketball. It was very fragmented, right. Obviously seven o
1:26:14
Speaker 12: seven was kind of our AAU for football. We didn't
1:26:17
Speaker 12: really have that, and then you know, obviously have the
1:26:19
Speaker 12: AAU and basketball and obviously club teams in soccer and
1:26:22
Speaker 12: blah blah blah. So with volleyball, when you look at it,
1:26:26
Speaker 12: to be able to be able to plug in a
1:26:29
Speaker 12: young lady into a system where it's integrated, right, there's
1:26:33
Speaker 12: there's times where there's middle schoolers, high schoolers and pro
1:26:37
Speaker 12: volleyball players training in the same facility. That's very, very
1:26:41
Speaker 12: unique and one of the things that I'm very passionate
1:26:44
Speaker 12: about after retiring from the NFL, you know, getting you know,
1:26:49
Speaker 12: having the injury early on in my career and just
1:26:51
Speaker 12: not being prepared to transition One of the things that
1:26:54
Speaker 12: I want to bring and I've already brought it up
1:26:56
Speaker 12: in the governor meetings with the other owners, is what
1:26:59
Speaker 12: are we doing for athletes like in offseason? What are
1:27:02
Speaker 12: we doing for athletes that transition out of love and
1:27:05
Speaker 12: they want to transition into business or findance or whatever.
1:27:08
Speaker 12: So I'm very passionate about that transition because I had
1:27:11
Speaker 12: to go through it on my own, and I think
1:27:13
Speaker 12: that's just another component that I bring to the table
1:27:16
Speaker 12: that I'm really focused on the athlete first, whether it's
1:27:19
Speaker 12: middle school, high school, college, or pro.
1:27:23
Speaker 3: Going back to that that thesis statement you gave me
1:27:25
Speaker 3: for Synergy Sports, the emerging you know, growing leagues, but
1:27:31
Speaker 3: also sports adjacent businesses potentially real estate.
1:27:35
Speaker 2: Uh, why is love in that category? You know?
1:27:39
Speaker 3: When we talk about acquiring ownership or ownership stake in
1:27:44
Speaker 3: like the soccer team here, obviously we got an NHL
1:27:47
Speaker 3: team this year, you then get an announcement of oh, yeah,
1:27:51
Speaker 3: we're gonna build this facility out there in Harriman, Utah
1:27:54
Speaker 3: for the soccer team. And now there's an academy for
1:27:57
Speaker 3: real Salt Lake and all these plays and renderings for
1:28:02
Speaker 3: a change Delta Center or even a new building and
1:28:05
Speaker 3: the mall that I went to as a kid is
1:28:08
Speaker 3: now a practice facility for the Utah Jazz and the
1:28:11
Speaker 3: Utah Mammoth. And we're talking about love sul Lake, and
1:28:13
Speaker 3: we're talking about the volleyball side of this. Where are
1:28:16
Speaker 3: those sports adjacent and real estate opportunities?
1:28:20
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean you hit it on the head. I
1:28:21
Speaker 12: think that was the thing that realizing that the local government, city, municipality,
1:28:27
Speaker 12: community has really gotten behind the NHL team. We actually
1:28:31
Speaker 12: went to a game. I just flew back from Salt Lake.
1:28:33
Speaker 12: I was there last night. I've been there for like
1:28:35
Speaker 12: the last three four days, and we went to a
1:28:38
Speaker 12: Mammoth game and just to see the energy in that
1:28:40
Speaker 12: facility and what Ron Smith has created. He and I
1:28:43
Speaker 12: spoke at an event together in Arizona last year at
1:28:46
Speaker 12: pac Pro Athlete Community. So I'm gonna try to connect
1:28:49
Speaker 12: with him this week if he flies out. And you
1:28:53
Speaker 12: just seeing what's happening with MLS NWSL team, you know,
1:28:56
Speaker 12: the Commission of NWSL said it best like you could
1:28:59
Speaker 12: get an NWSL franchise for five million bucks in twenty
1:29:01
Speaker 12: twenty one, and I think they just sold the seventeen
1:29:04
Speaker 12: franchise to the Arta Blank Family four one hundred and
1:29:07
Speaker 12: sixty five million. So just women's sports in generals finally
1:29:10
Speaker 12: getting it's just due. I'll see the new CBA agreement
1:29:15
Speaker 12: with the WNBA players. And then if you look at
1:29:17
Speaker 12: what's happening around college athletics, and obviously I'm here in
1:29:21
Speaker 12: College Station, I'm an aggie, obviously in our techs say
1:29:24
Speaker 12: and women's volleyball team just won the national championship. So
1:29:27
Speaker 12: there's just a lot of positive things happening. And with
1:29:30
Speaker 12: Salt Lake, we're a part time resident. I think people
1:29:33
Speaker 12: are kind of misconstrued we're not there full time, but
1:29:36
Speaker 12: we have a place there in Park City we try
1:29:38
Speaker 12: to get up to and we're passionate about Utah. I mean,
1:29:41
Speaker 12: our ultimate dream one day is to spend six months
1:29:43
Speaker 12: out of the year up there in that area to
1:29:46
Speaker 12: get out of the heat, especially in the summer here
1:29:48
Speaker 12: in Texas. But when you look at the real estate
1:29:51
Speaker 12: development opportunities, that's what I'm trying to discover and wrap
1:29:54
Speaker 12: my mind around. Because you know what Athletic Co Dallas,
1:29:58
Speaker 12: our team that we here in Texas, we're working on
1:30:02
Speaker 12: eighty acre stadium district development. So not saying that the
1:30:06
Speaker 12: Love team will be an eighty acre development, but I'm
1:30:08
Speaker 12: excited to partner with the local city municipality and if I'm
1:30:12
Speaker 12: the right site to build something practice facility, stadium and
1:30:16
Speaker 12: all that in one place for sure.
1:30:18
Speaker 3: Terence Murphy is our guest here for a few more
1:30:20
Speaker 3: minutes on the Sean O'Connell Schill talk and Love Salt
1:30:22
Speaker 3: Lake Professional Women's Volleyball and the whole Love League has.
1:30:27
Speaker 3: One of the things that I appreciate about it is
1:30:29
Speaker 3: the accessibility for families, for young kids, for young girls.
1:30:34
Speaker 3: I'm a dad of three girls, right. You want them
1:30:37
Speaker 3: to see the good examples. You want them to be
1:30:39
Speaker 3: able to talk to people that are doing something that
1:30:42
Speaker 3: maybe they will end up trying to do as they
1:30:45
Speaker 3: get older in life. And it's something that with these
1:30:47
Speaker 3: emerging leagues, to me, is unique because we all love
1:30:51
Speaker 3: the NFL, we all love Major League Baseball. Here, we
1:30:55
Speaker 3: really enjoy the NBA and our new NHL team, But
1:30:58
Speaker 3: accessibility to those athletes, those coaches, those facilities, their time,
1:31:03
Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, is difficult. And it feels like with
1:31:07
Speaker 3: Love Sall Lake and with the league as we know it,
1:31:10
Speaker 3: with the NWSL and some of these other kind of
1:31:12
Speaker 3: growth properties. Part of the mission or part of the
1:31:17
Speaker 3: game plan for growth is to be more integrated in
1:31:21
Speaker 3: the community and to be I don't know, maybe have
1:31:23
Speaker 3: a better actual personal relationship with your fans. Is that
1:31:27
Speaker 3: something that you're paying attention to. Is that something you're
1:31:30
Speaker 3: trying to drive forward.
1:31:32
Speaker 12: It's something I'm very passionate about, having two little girls,
1:31:35
Speaker 12: being a girl dad, a volley dad and a soccer dad.
1:31:38
Speaker 12: And myself and I have my son that I coach
1:31:41
Speaker 12: in flag football and basketball and soccer too. But I
1:31:44
Speaker 12: think that I mean, you think about it, like you said,
1:31:45
Speaker 12: we're a similar age. Right in the eighties and nineties
1:31:48
Speaker 12: growing up as a kid, you would see the Michael
1:31:50
Speaker 12: Jordan's and the Emma Smiths and the Jerry Rices, but
1:31:53
Speaker 12: you had no access to them, and you were still
1:31:56
Speaker 12: inspired by what you saw on TV. So now to
1:31:59
Speaker 12: be able to see them on TV as the media
1:32:01
Speaker 12: deals are growing and there's a lot of a lot
1:32:04
Speaker 12: happening there, but then to be able to get to
1:32:06
Speaker 12: them and you know, if we have access to that
1:32:09
Speaker 12: because we're here in College station and it's similar probably
1:32:11
Speaker 12: for Utah and by U where you know, hearing conversation
1:32:15
Speaker 12: tax A and M like you're seeing as a pro
1:32:18
Speaker 12: team on the football team and volleyball team and whatever.
1:32:20
Speaker 12: So being able to get those kids access like we're
1:32:23
Speaker 12: just trying to inspire these babies, to encourage them and
1:32:27
Speaker 12: in sports is just it's a it's a great school
1:32:30
Speaker 12: to teach life lessons to our kids, to get them
1:32:33
Speaker 12: off the couch, to get the to get the electronics
1:32:36
Speaker 12: out of their hands. And are they all going to
1:32:39
Speaker 12: go pro? No, but they can learn a lot of
1:32:41
Speaker 12: lessons with hard work and perseverance and teamwork, learning different
1:32:45
Speaker 12: ethnicities and learning how to lead and how to deal
1:32:48
Speaker 12: with hard days and hard moments. That's where sports will
1:32:52
Speaker 12: never take a back seat to you know, AI and
1:32:55
Speaker 12: some of the things that's coming down the pipe. And
1:32:57
Speaker 12: then from a fans standpoint, it's one of the player.
1:33:00
Speaker 12: You can go and leave whatever's going on in your
1:33:03
Speaker 12: life outside the gym or the court or the stadium
1:33:06
Speaker 12: and just enjoy that two to three four hour moment
1:33:09
Speaker 12: with being a fan, and it's very organic. I think
1:33:13
Speaker 12: that's why sports will always be at the forefront in
1:33:15
Speaker 12: our country.
1:33:18
Speaker 3: You reference the new CBA in the WNBA and I
1:33:22
Speaker 3: foresee I mean with the now minimum salary around three
1:33:25
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars, Obviously that's a good living. That changes
1:33:29
Speaker 3: not only the way that fans are gonna, I guess,
1:33:33
Speaker 3: approach that game, but also it changes for the athletes
1:33:36
Speaker 3: themselves what they need to do with their life. Right,
1:33:39
Speaker 3: a lot of WNBA players would spend a WNBA season
1:33:43
Speaker 3: making their sixty K and then they would go play
1:33:46
Speaker 3: overseas to earn some more income opportunities, to help their
1:33:52
Speaker 3: families out whatever.
1:33:54
Speaker 2: And probably they don't need to do that anymore.
1:33:55
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're still going to, but you
1:33:58
Speaker 3: don't have to do it anymore or to make a
1:34:01
Speaker 3: livable wage as a professional athlete with this new CBA,
1:34:05
Speaker 3: with volleyball in an emerging league, do we foresee it
1:34:08
Speaker 3: Probably years down the road, admittedly, But do we foresee
1:34:10
Speaker 3: a situation where or do you want it to be
1:34:13
Speaker 3: a situation where love volleyball players love Salt Lake players
1:34:18
Speaker 3: don't do the overseas thing in the love offseason where
1:34:21
Speaker 3: they can just be here, focus on their families, focus
1:34:25
Speaker 3: on development for the league, whatever, and not have to
1:34:28
Speaker 3: kind of split those responsibilities.
1:34:32
Speaker 12: Yeah, selfishly, I'm always gonna have that passion, right, you know,
1:34:35
Speaker 12: because I played in college sports when you know, I
1:34:37
Speaker 12: was the face to take sand in football, the top
1:34:39
Speaker 12: draft pick. I was a two time All American, two
1:34:42
Speaker 12: time team captain, two times four team All Conference, three
1:34:45
Speaker 12: time ACADEMA All Conference, blah blah blah, and I was
1:34:48
Speaker 12: eating double cheeseburgers over the weekend, right ninety nine Saints Burgers,
1:34:51
Speaker 12: where you know, there's millions of dollars being made. So
1:34:54
Speaker 12: I'm always going to be an athlete at heart, even
1:34:56
Speaker 12: though I'm owning these sports teams and sports investments. And yes,
1:34:59
Speaker 12: I will of my ops to get returns, and I
1:35:01
Speaker 12: want my partners to get to get a good return
1:35:05
Speaker 12: on their capital. But there is no sports without the athlete, right.
1:35:09
Speaker 12: The number one resources, the number one asset is the
1:35:12
Speaker 12: talent at the end of the day. And one of
1:35:15
Speaker 12: the things we want to do is I want to
1:35:17
Speaker 12: invest in.
1:35:17
Speaker 8: The whole.
1:35:20
Speaker 12: Ecosystem of athletes, so you know, recovery health, mental health,
1:35:26
Speaker 12: long term health, and then obviously the ability to perform
1:35:30
Speaker 12: while they're playing for us. But then how do we
1:35:32
Speaker 12: transition them into the real world as professionals and parents
1:35:37
Speaker 12: and mothers and investors, and you know, I'm even already
1:35:41
Speaker 12: working on a plan through centergy Sports Capital where we're
1:35:44
Speaker 12: going to have a cohort of athletes from all sports NWSL, WNBA,
1:35:48
Speaker 12: love volleyball to be able to come work at our
1:35:51
Speaker 12: firm a couple months out of the year and learn
1:35:53
Speaker 12: and see what it looks like on this side of
1:35:55
Speaker 12: the fence, because that's something I wish I would have
1:35:57
Speaker 12: gotten when I was playing in the NFL. So, yeah,
1:36:00
Speaker 12: we're going to bring a different element to private equity.
1:36:03
Speaker 12: We won't but at the end of the day, the
1:36:07
Speaker 12: athlete is the number one asset to whatever we decide
1:36:10
Speaker 12: to do. And then with salt Lake, like, the vision
1:36:15
Speaker 12: is simple. When you look at my history at Texas
1:36:18
Speaker 12: A and M and Kyle Field, there's one hundred and
1:36:19
Speaker 12: ten thousand people that cram into that stadium. It's a
1:36:22
Speaker 12: tough environment. And then you look at Lambeau Field, those
1:36:25
Speaker 12: are two historic places to play and it's you know,
1:36:28
Speaker 12: season tickets to get up. There's a thing in Green Bay, right.
1:36:32
Speaker 12: People know about some of our traditions, but one of
1:36:34
Speaker 12: the things in Wisconsin is when you have a kid,
1:36:36
Speaker 12: you go to the stadium and you put them on
1:36:38
Speaker 12: the waiting list. So by the time they become an adult,
1:36:41
Speaker 12: they can most likely get season tickets. And so that's
1:36:45
Speaker 12: something I want to create that same lambeau Field and
1:36:47
Speaker 12: Caylefield atmosphere with our stadium in Salt Lake. Right we're
1:36:51
Speaker 12: playing at the Slick right now and it's a really
1:36:54
Speaker 12: loude gymnasium. I actually went and got to see in,
1:36:57
Speaker 12: you know, a really good place. But ultimately goal is
1:37:00
Speaker 12: to have our own home in the future and work
1:37:02
Speaker 12: with the city to create something for not only the
1:37:05
Speaker 12: Love youth, middle school, high school, but also that pro
1:37:09
Speaker 12: team and have that ecosystem all in one place. That's
1:37:11
Speaker 12: my ultimate dream vision. And then they have the acoustics
1:37:14
Speaker 12: set up perfectly where that's one of the hardest places
1:37:17
Speaker 12: to play in all the Love.
1:37:19
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna be unfair here. I'm going to
1:37:21
Speaker 3: ambush you with a question that that's not about Love
1:37:24
Speaker 3: Salt Lake, but it is about your experience as a
1:37:28
Speaker 3: venture capitalist, as someone who's been involved with these private
1:37:31
Speaker 3: equity deals. The University of Utah made a lot of
1:37:35
Speaker 3: headlines for bringing private equity investment into their athletic department
1:37:40
Speaker 3: and being the first university to do it. We know
1:37:42
Speaker 3: that the Big Ten has talked about it. We know
1:37:45
Speaker 3: that other schools and other conferences have talked about potentially
1:37:49
Speaker 3: doing that. In the University of Utah, they did it.
1:37:53
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you've been able to look
1:37:55
Speaker 3: at it. I don't know if you're aware of full
1:37:57
Speaker 3: details on it. But just from a grand ten thousand
1:38:00
Speaker 3: foot view of this thing, what do you think of
1:38:03
Speaker 3: private equity being involved in college football, college basketball, college gymnastics,
1:38:09
Speaker 3: the heritage programs at the University of Utah?
1:38:14
Speaker 12: Yeah, sir, yeah, I think what I think One of
1:38:17
Speaker 12: the things, why, you know, when we made our announcement
1:38:19
Speaker 12: of Snorty Sports Capital a couple of weeks ago, we
1:38:21
Speaker 12: had three hundred inquiries in like the first seven days
1:38:25
Speaker 12: on our website on socials. And you know, Reggie Bush
1:38:29
Speaker 12: is one of my partners, and I think for the
1:38:32
Speaker 12: first time, I'll talk about myself being a D one athlete,
1:38:37
Speaker 12: being a pro athlete, and then being in investing for
1:38:41
Speaker 12: twenty one years, and then I was like, you know,
1:38:44
Speaker 12: I was the time where I was on the twelfth
1:38:45
Speaker 12: man finance committee of Takes A and M dealing with
1:38:47
Speaker 12: all the numbers behind our athletics, right, and so I've
1:38:50
Speaker 12: seen it from so many different perspectives, and so I
1:38:53
Speaker 12: bring just a point of view. It's very unique, and
1:38:55
Speaker 12: I think that's where a lot of the family officers
1:38:57
Speaker 12: are reaching out because they get that right. This guy
1:39:00
Speaker 12: has a tracker agred, but he did it on the field,
1:39:02
Speaker 12: off the field. So to answer your question, it was
1:39:06
Speaker 12: only a matter of time. You know, it's inevitable. As
1:39:11
Speaker 12: much as you want to keep ee out now with
1:39:15
Speaker 12: the profit sharing and the NIO and where athletic departments are,
1:39:21
Speaker 12: it's tough and you know you've got to make sure
1:39:26
Speaker 12: you're trying to break even or make money at the
1:39:30
Speaker 12: end of the day from an athletic and university standpoint,
1:39:34
Speaker 12: and donors only can give so much when the kids
1:39:38
Speaker 12: in the talent. Once again, going back to what I
1:39:40
Speaker 12: said earlier, the kids in the talent are demanding more, right,
1:39:44
Speaker 12: you know, like I said, I was on a scholarship
1:39:45
Speaker 12: and eating double cheeseburgers and I was happy. That's just
1:39:48
Speaker 12: not kids in twenty twenty six, Like now that this
1:39:50
Speaker 12: has kind of opened up the can of worms, there's
1:39:53
Speaker 12: different expectations all the way around, and we're not putting
1:39:55
Speaker 12: that back in the box. Like there's just no way
1:39:58
Speaker 12: to go back from now. So I think this is
1:40:00
Speaker 12: the new wave and I think it's it's inevitable. And
1:40:02
Speaker 12: like you said, with the deal with Cultural Capital in Utah,
1:40:06
Speaker 12: they really just created a new asset class. And now
1:40:08
Speaker 12: everybody's kind of scrambling to figure out how do you
1:40:11
Speaker 12: make it make sense?
1:40:13
Speaker 3: Do you foresee a possibility of Synergy Sports Capital your
1:40:16
Speaker 3: company being involved at some point in I don't know,
1:40:19
Speaker 3: Texas A and M, maybe USC. Because your partner is
1:40:22
Speaker 3: Reggie Bush.
1:40:25
Speaker 12: I think hones to see if that were to happen,
1:40:27
Speaker 12: and that possibility, you know, is there, I think, I
1:40:31
Speaker 12: think selfishly, I don't want to speak for Reggie, but
1:40:34
Speaker 12: I know it's hard. I think we would both. It
1:40:37
Speaker 12: would be a dream come true to be involved in
1:40:40
Speaker 12: our university alma maters in any way, shape, form or fashion.
1:40:45
Speaker 12: So you know, whether it's USC or takes A and M, yeah,
1:40:49
Speaker 12: for sure, no brainer. And I think Cinity Sports Capital
1:40:52
Speaker 12: once again brings a very unique perspective because as much
1:40:56
Speaker 12: as we're focused on emerging leagues and teams with real
1:40:59
Speaker 12: estate development opportunit, even sports are Jason businesses. When it
1:41:02
Speaker 12: comes to college athletics, the driver is college football. There's
1:41:07
Speaker 12: just no way around it. And obviously we need him
1:41:10
Speaker 12: him went into Heisman and us being both first taking
1:41:13
Speaker 12: around draft picks. If you look at just the numbers, right,
1:41:16
Speaker 12: there's sixteen hundred guys give or taken the NFL, But
1:41:19
Speaker 12: every year there's about you know, sixty to seventy guys
1:41:23
Speaker 12: that get drafted in the first two rounds. There's a
1:41:25
Speaker 12: very very small group of people. And if you remove
1:41:29
Speaker 12: the O line, D line, and you just do the
1:41:30
Speaker 12: skill guys, it's even a smaller class.
1:41:32
Speaker 8: Right.
1:41:33
Speaker 12: We do the we do a draft thing every year
1:41:37
Speaker 12: where the top kind of athletic you know, athletes go
1:41:41
Speaker 12: take photo shoots together and stuff. But being with all
1:41:44
Speaker 12: that being said, no, I think it's a it's it's
1:41:47
Speaker 12: it's a very unique time to be in private equity,
1:41:49
Speaker 12: to be in sports. But no, it's a no brainer
1:41:53
Speaker 12: that Symity Sports Capital will be at the forefront of
1:41:56
Speaker 12: those conversations as they mature. We're already having some of
1:41:59
Speaker 12: those conversations.
1:42:01
Speaker 3: You mentioned your son is involved in flag football right now,
1:42:04
Speaker 3: will he be involved in tackle football eventually?
1:42:09
Speaker 12: With junior? You know, it's a weird dynamic, right, There
1:42:13
Speaker 12: was a time when we knew we were having a boy,
1:42:15
Speaker 12: I said, Babe, do we want to name him Junior
1:42:17
Speaker 12: Terrece Murphy Junior. She said, honey, that's your dreamy. We
1:42:19
Speaker 12: need to do it. So she pushed me on that,
1:42:22
Speaker 12: But I knew what comes with the territory of him
1:42:24
Speaker 12: being wearing my name here in Aguiline and growing up
1:42:27
Speaker 12: as an athlete. But he's very special. He's got some
1:42:30
Speaker 12: unique talents. He's probably way more advanced than I was
1:42:33
Speaker 12: in soccer, basketball and football. But as long as I
1:42:36
Speaker 12: can keep him away from tackle, I'll will try to
1:42:39
Speaker 12: as long as I can. But I tried to get
1:42:41
Speaker 12: him to the golf. I'm like, man, you could beat
1:42:44
Speaker 12: the next tackle Wood. And then now I'm like, hey,
1:42:46
Speaker 12: you should do beating being bope and be do soccer.
1:42:49
Speaker 12: And he just loves football. So we'll see.
1:42:53
Speaker 3: Before I let you go, what's the best way that
1:42:55
Speaker 3: our listeners could get involved in support what you are
1:42:57
Speaker 3: doing with love Salt Lake.
1:43:01
Speaker 12: Man, I would say, just, you know, get out to
1:43:03
Speaker 12: the games. You know, you know Jordan Poulter, you know.
1:43:07
Speaker 12: I'll quote this from somebody who said this weekend, she's
1:43:10
Speaker 12: the Lebron James of Setters. Right, Like, she's just really
1:43:15
Speaker 12: talented and you know as a center, she's a quarterback right.
1:43:19
Speaker 12: And one of the key reasons that I really started
1:43:23
Speaker 12: leaning in in that direction is I'm like, Okay, who's
1:43:25
Speaker 12: my center, because's who's gonna touch the baltimost, that's who's
1:43:28
Speaker 12: gonna leave the team, that's gonna be your heartbeat of
1:43:30
Speaker 12: the team. And getting to meet Jordan this last week
1:43:34
Speaker 12: and in the team in interrow, and then also just
1:43:37
Speaker 12: meeting the staff, the coaches, and the supporting staff from
1:43:41
Speaker 12: Love Man, everybody was just not only kind, but the
1:43:44
Speaker 12: culture that they're building in two years to go from
1:43:47
Speaker 12: being at the bottom of the pack last year to
1:43:49
Speaker 12: really this year dominating. They were eight and one at
1:43:51
Speaker 12: one point before some of the injuries played the team.
1:43:54
Speaker 12: And you know, they're playing Houston tonight in Houston, and
1:43:57
Speaker 12: we're gonna go drive down and we're bringing Tearns Love
1:44:02
Speaker 12: Volleyball Houston team there to support our team in person.
1:44:05
Speaker 12: But no, I just think it's a great time. So
1:44:08
Speaker 12: anybody that is their local, like, we we want your support,
1:44:12
Speaker 12: we want you involved, and yeah, I mean let's get
1:44:16
Speaker 12: behind us and as things come up, just know that
1:44:20
Speaker 12: I didn't just come there just to invest in a
1:44:22
Speaker 12: team and flip it. My ultimate dream is to build
1:44:25
Speaker 12: something that's great long term. And actually, you know, my
1:44:29
Speaker 12: first experience is to in Salt Lake. I played there.
1:44:31
Speaker 12: Mind we played Utah my junior year at Cayllefield, and
1:44:34
Speaker 12: then my senior year we played at at Salt Lake.
1:44:37
Speaker 12: They're at Utah University, and so now I have a
1:44:41
Speaker 12: love for that area and want to want to build
1:44:43
Speaker 12: a great enterprise and a great team.
1:44:46
Speaker 2: Remind our listeners what happened when you visited Salt Lake City.
1:44:48
Speaker 3: How'd that game go for the Aggies?
1:44:51
Speaker 12: Well, we got you guys my junior year at Kyle Field. Actually,
1:44:56
Speaker 12: I'll give you the history on that. So obviously we
1:44:58
Speaker 12: had a legendary coach, RC Soulk And you know, if
1:45:01
Speaker 12: you look back in the Southwest Conference days in early
1:45:04
Speaker 12: Big twelve and then my sophomore year, Rich just bed
1:45:08
Speaker 12: the number one team in the nation in Oklahoma. And
1:45:10
Speaker 12: then two games later we had the two games started
1:45:12
Speaker 12: and we fired our legendary coach. Still to this day
1:45:14
Speaker 12: takes a and m I think we as Aggies can
1:45:17
Speaker 12: all speak to that. It just obviously wasn't the best
1:45:19
Speaker 12: decision and then we brought in coach Frencioni from Alabama
1:45:22
Speaker 12: and probably wasn't the best decision. So we played you
1:45:25
Speaker 12: guys here. And I always give Alex Smith a hard time.
1:45:28
Speaker 12: He's a friend of mine. When I see him, I
1:45:30
Speaker 12: tell him, I said, you O takes A and M
1:45:32
Speaker 12: a lot of money And he's like why, and I said, well,
1:45:36
Speaker 12: when you played at cayle Field in two thousand and three,
1:45:38
Speaker 12: you were the third string quarterback, Mike, And think about it,
1:45:41
Speaker 12: what's the likelihood of a Thirsteon quarterback playing. It's probably
1:45:44
Speaker 12: slim and none. But the starting quarterback our defense ended
1:45:49
Speaker 12: up injuring him. I think they heard his he broke
1:45:51
Speaker 12: his ribs and he was out. And then like the
1:45:53
Speaker 12: last play of the game in O three, they broke
1:45:55
Speaker 12: the risk of the second string quarterback. I think he
1:45:57
Speaker 12: tried to diving M zone and broke his risk. So
1:45:59
Speaker 12: then and Alex Smith comes in, you got to go
1:46:03
Speaker 12: on a like ten to two run. And then that
1:46:05
Speaker 12: next year they go like twelve and oh and that
1:46:08
Speaker 12: does not happen. If that A and M game doesn't happen.
1:46:11
Speaker 12: So I always give them a hard time about that.
1:46:12
Speaker 12: But no, we came to Utah on Thursday Night football
1:46:16
Speaker 12: and got our butts kicked. I don't remember what the
1:46:19
Speaker 12: score was. I know my junior year, I almost two
1:46:23
Speaker 12: hundred and fifty yards on like seven touches against Utah,
1:46:28
Speaker 12: and like they were even mentioning some Heisman conversations after
1:46:32
Speaker 12: that game because it was just crazy. And then my
1:46:34
Speaker 12: junior my senior year, I had one hundred in some
1:46:36
Speaker 12: yards but we got our bus keep for sure. They
1:46:38
Speaker 12: came out on fire. Our defense couldn't stop a nosebleed
1:46:42
Speaker 12: and we got torn up.
1:46:44
Speaker 3: You were on the field tearing it up. I was
1:46:46
Speaker 3: walking on the sideline probably not even dressed, I don't
1:46:50
Speaker 3: think in that game, just cheering on the guys who
1:46:52
Speaker 3: were actually doing it. But distinct memory.
1:46:55
Speaker 12: Oh man, you were on the team, bro.
1:46:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on the team. I wasn't on the fiel.
1:47:00
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:47:01
Speaker 12: Oh, it's all love. Yeah, that's cool man. Yeah, because
1:47:04
Speaker 12: when I see U saw guys, now, the first thing
1:47:07
Speaker 12: they bring up. Even when I was in the NFL
1:47:09
Speaker 12: going through the combine in the process, they were like
1:47:11
Speaker 12: any time I would see him, they would always just
1:47:13
Speaker 12: keep bringing it up because there was a guy that
1:47:14
Speaker 12: was on the team. I don't remember his name. I
1:47:17
Speaker 12: know he's reminiscent. Now I know we need to go.
1:47:19
Speaker 12: We'll close with this. There was a guy on y'all team.
1:47:21
Speaker 12: There was a DV that supposedly ran a four to one,
1:47:26
Speaker 12: and they were like, this guy ran a four to one,
1:47:28
Speaker 12: seven or four to two, always a fast DV in
1:47:31
Speaker 12: the nation. R.
1:47:32
Speaker 3: Ryan Smith, we call yeah, we called bluff on that.
1:47:36
Speaker 12: But either way, I got a reverse and he was
1:47:40
Speaker 12: running to try to catch me, and I made him
1:47:43
Speaker 12: disappear in the screen. I was like an eighty R
1:47:46
Speaker 12: touchdown reverse. People who want to call my bluff go
1:47:49
Speaker 12: look it up. It was an ADR I think speed
1:47:52
Speaker 12: reverse or something. But he's running right next to me
1:47:54
Speaker 12: and I made him disappear. And I was fast. I
1:47:56
Speaker 12: ran a four to three, but I didn't run a
1:47:58
Speaker 12: four to one. And then from that going on, like
1:48:00
Speaker 12: the guys from Utah were like, you're the fastest guy
1:48:03
Speaker 12: we've ever seen, because in their mind they see his
1:48:06
Speaker 12: guy who they've been told than four to one, and
1:48:08
Speaker 12: I just ran out on him. And anytime I see
1:48:11
Speaker 12: somebody from Utah they bringing it up. Man, you remember
1:48:14
Speaker 12: you number five. You were the fast guy we've ever
1:48:16
Speaker 12: seen play football, so it's something that always came up.
1:48:18
Speaker 3: Well, we're glad you're back in the Salt Lake City
1:48:21
Speaker 3: world as an owner now instead of as a competitor.
1:48:24
Speaker 3: Congrats and all your success. Next time you're in town,
1:48:26
Speaker 3: let's get you here in studio.
1:48:27
Speaker 12: All right, we love to do it, brother, Thank you
1:48:30
Speaker 12: for your time.
1:48:31
Speaker 9: Man.
1:48:32
Speaker 3: That's Terence Murphy. He's partners with Reggie Bush and others
1:48:36
Speaker 3: in Synergy Sports Capital now owners of Love Salt Lake
1:48:42
Speaker 3: LVB Volleyball sult Lake. All right, Big Willies, we're here
1:48:49
Speaker 3: on remote. Come hang out with us. Sweet sixteen games
1:48:52
Speaker 3: happening and of course lots more to get to on
1:48:54
Speaker 3: The Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred ninety twoeff, you.
1:49:06
Speaker 1: Tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the Murdoch Shevrolet
1:49:09
Speaker 1: Studio of ESPN.
1:49:16
Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome back. We're at Big Willies today,
1:49:19
Speaker 3: Patrick sitting down with us, the mastermind of all Big
1:49:22
Speaker 3: Big Willies. He runs the place. R. J. Rice is
1:49:25
Speaker 3: also here on site. He's gonna join us in just
1:49:29
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. Former Utah football player turned comedian,
1:49:33
Speaker 3: he's headlining at Wise Guys locally coming up. We'll talk
1:49:37
Speaker 3: all the details with him in just a couple of minutes.
1:49:39
Speaker 3: But before we get there, Sweet sixteen opening day. A
1:49:44
Speaker 3: lot of reasons just from the sports perspective to come
1:49:47
Speaker 3: down here to Big Willies and then pat on top
1:49:49
Speaker 3: of that you add the drink specials and the food specials. Really,
1:49:53
Speaker 3: it's just a bad idea to miss out on Big Willies.
1:49:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, with.
1:49:57
Speaker 4: Our pricing and our food and our cocktails. I don't
1:49:59
Speaker 4: know why you'd go anywhere else then Big Willie's. To
1:50:02
Speaker 4: satisfy your sports thirst.
1:50:05
Speaker 3: I love fat. Satisfy your sports put that on a
1:50:10
Speaker 3: T shirt.
1:50:10
Speaker 5: I think I will.
1:50:11
Speaker 2: Maybe painted on the side of the building.
1:50:14
Speaker 4: Michelle will not allow that, but the T shirt is
1:50:17
Speaker 4: a high possibility.
1:50:18
Speaker 3: I learned about the division of labor here. You do
1:50:21
Speaker 3: radio and Michelle does television.
1:50:23
Speaker 4: Yes, I was told that I have a face for
1:50:26
Speaker 4: radio and Michelle does all live interviews for obvious reasons.
1:50:30
Speaker 3: On camera stuff. Yeah, but it hasn't been fair because
1:50:34
Speaker 3: you do a lot of radio and she's only done.
1:50:36
Speaker 5: At Oh yeah, they're few and far between.
1:50:38
Speaker 4: It's definitely when I struck the deal, I didn't realize
1:50:40
Speaker 4: how often I'd be on the radio and how few
1:50:43
Speaker 4: times she'd be on TV.
1:50:45
Speaker 3: Well, kind of specials, you run it all weekend long,
1:50:47
Speaker 3: because it's not just today. Obviously Sweet sixteenth starts today,
1:50:50
Speaker 3: but there's games the rest of the weekend in baseball, hockey,
1:50:54
Speaker 3: NBA basketball, college basketball, two fight nights, PFL, and UFC
1:50:59
Speaker 3: going ahead to him on Saturday night as well.
1:51:01
Speaker 4: So you're kind a lot going on us. Yeah, there's
1:51:03
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot going on this weekend.
1:51:05
Speaker 5: For sure.
1:51:06
Speaker 4: We do have nine TVs, so everything will be broadcast,
1:51:10
Speaker 4: maybe not all the MLB games, but the UFC, the PFL,
1:51:14
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen games will definitely all be on. And
1:51:17
Speaker 4: we got great specials. I mean, like today we have
1:51:20
Speaker 4: Jefferson Oceans for five dollars, which is ridiculous, Wheatley other
1:51:26
Speaker 4: options at four dollars, and a great cocktail menu, so
1:51:31
Speaker 4: come down try a craft cocktail. And like I said before,
1:51:35
Speaker 4: everything is freshly made, simple syrups, juices. Everything is very
1:51:40
Speaker 4: crafty here without the stuffiness of a craft bar.
1:51:43
Speaker 3: And then you've got the number one pool haul in Utah,
1:51:45
Speaker 3: which is attached adjacent right.
1:51:48
Speaker 2: There through those doors.
1:51:50
Speaker 3: Also trivia nights.
1:51:53
Speaker 2: We just did How I Met Your Mother.
1:51:54
Speaker 4: Trivia Yep, yep, that was on a Wednesday last night.
1:51:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bingo is on Tuesdays, right.
1:52:01
Speaker 5: Being goes on Tuesdays.
1:52:03
Speaker 4: We mix in some craft night and Peyton Nights on Mondays,
1:52:07
Speaker 4: so keep an eye out for those. Sunday we do poker,
1:52:13
Speaker 4: which is a fun you know, it's free to play.
1:52:16
Speaker 4: Jackpot's three hundred.
1:52:18
Speaker 3: Nice.
1:52:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:52:20
Speaker 5: Then in the.
1:52:20
Speaker 4: Poolroom, guys, if you haven't been to a pool hall
1:52:23
Speaker 4: in a long time, come down to Big Willies.
1:52:26
Speaker 5: The pool hall is immaculate.
1:52:27
Speaker 4: We keep really good care at the tables. It's really
1:52:30
Speaker 4: fun environment in there as well. We have TVs and
1:52:32
Speaker 4: music blasting on the weekend. So if you're not wanting
1:52:37
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Speaker 4: Gonna have to step in and yeah, there's there, there's
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Speaker 4: there's people here that are professionals, So just just stay
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Speaker 4: with your own people.
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Speaker 3: just come down and have dinner here, have lunch here.
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Speaker 3: The food is truly incredible and they keep the drink
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Speaker 3: specials very wallet friendly every single time. Thanks for having
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Speaker 3: us down.
1:53:15
Speaker 5: Yep, you're welcome.
1:53:16
Speaker 2: Thanks much. Look, I've been looking forward to this next
1:53:19
Speaker 2: conversation RJ.
1:53:21
Speaker 3: Rice. He and I had similar similar times at the
1:53:26
Speaker 3: University of Utah. He was a little better than me,
1:53:28
Speaker 3: but not necessarily a megastar player. He has now decided
1:53:33
Speaker 3: to dip his toes into the stand up comedy world,
1:53:36
Speaker 3: and you can find some of his highlights on social
1:53:39
Speaker 3: You can also find him at wise Guys. The former
1:53:44
Speaker 3: Utah defensive back RJ. Rice sits down with us to
1:53:47
Speaker 3: talk all things well, maybe talk a little football, but
1:53:50
Speaker 3: I'm mostly interested in your comedy journey.
1:53:52
Speaker 14: Welcome to the show, Annie, Thank you very much, thanks
1:53:54
Speaker 14: for having me. Im pump pumped to be here, all right, Yeah,
1:53:58
Speaker 14: I can't wait for.
1:54:00
Speaker 3: The people the uninitiated. You were on that Sugar.
1:54:03
Speaker 14: Bowl team, right, I was. I was on the That
1:54:05
Speaker 14: was my senior year Sugar Bowl team. Two thousand and nine,
1:54:11
Speaker 14: we beat Alabama.
1:54:12
Speaker 2: We were undefeated.
1:54:14
Speaker 3: It was it was fun. It was a good year
1:54:16
Speaker 3: to end on.
1:54:17
Speaker 14: It was And also too was coach Scally his first
1:54:21
Speaker 14: year as defensive back coach, and that was I was
1:54:24
Speaker 14: his one of his safeties at that time.
1:54:27
Speaker 2: So now he's the head coach. So you know Morgan.
1:54:31
Speaker 2: I know Morgan. Everyone here is super excited about Morgan.
1:54:35
Speaker 3: But he's got huge shoes to fill.
1:54:37
Speaker 2: Oh buddy, does he ever?
1:54:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of us don't have to be the guy
1:54:42
Speaker 3: to follow a guy. I guess I kind of did
1:54:44
Speaker 3: this stepping in for Bill Riley. I don't know why
1:54:48
Speaker 3: I decided that was a good idea, but here we are.
1:54:51
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, what do you think it's going
1:54:53
Speaker 2: to be like for Morgan.
1:54:55
Speaker 3: I'm pumpformer honestly.
1:54:56
Speaker 14: I went to practice for the first time in a
1:54:58
Speaker 14: while because I hadn't seen him in the and it
1:55:01
Speaker 14: was great seeing him.
1:55:02
Speaker 15: He's seeing the good spirits Stede. The team looked awesome.
1:55:05
Speaker 2: They looked just fun.
1:55:07
Speaker 14: Everybody was chippy, having a good time competing, and and
1:55:13
Speaker 14: I'm honestly excited. I'm pumped for coach winning him and
1:55:15
Speaker 14: pump that he gets you know, opportunity to go and
1:55:18
Speaker 14: coach for Michigan. I think that's great and pumped for him.
1:55:21
Speaker 14: But I'm really excited for Skelly and what he's got going.
1:55:25
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about your decision, your efforts. Let's
1:55:29
Speaker 3: talk about stand up comedy. Because of so, I think
1:55:33
Speaker 3: that most people, right they see someone who's acting, like, man,
1:55:37
Speaker 3: it would be cool to be an actor, and we
1:55:40
Speaker 3: see professional athletes all man, it'd be cool to be
1:55:42
Speaker 3: a basketball player. It'd be cool to play professional baseball.
1:55:45
Speaker 3: And I think that stand up comedy falls into that
1:55:47
Speaker 3: realm where everybody watches it, laughs at it, enjoys it.
1:55:50
Speaker 2: It's like, oh man, it'd be really cool to be
1:55:52
Speaker 2: a stand up comedian. Is it really cool to be
1:55:54
Speaker 2: a stand up comedian?
1:55:55
Speaker 3: Because there's like kind of a grind. You're not like
1:55:59
Speaker 3: a big time heavy, like it's gamorous, Like, so, is
1:56:02
Speaker 3: it cool?
1:56:03
Speaker 14: It?
1:56:04
Speaker 12: Uh?
1:56:05
Speaker 2: For the first few years, No, it is not. It's terrible.
1:56:08
Speaker 14: Honestly, it's it's one of the worst things you can.
1:56:12
Speaker 15: Do as a human being.
1:56:15
Speaker 3: It's it's you're.
1:56:16
Speaker 14: Just putting yourself out there. You don't really you know,
1:56:19
Speaker 14: you don't really know what you're doing.
1:56:21
Speaker 2: And it's hard.
1:56:22
Speaker 14: Now it's a lot more fun because I'm getting you know,
1:56:24
Speaker 14: I get laughs, and you know, for the last year
1:56:26
Speaker 14: or two, it's been a lot more fun doing it.
1:56:29
Speaker 2: And it's always been fun.
1:56:30
Speaker 14: But man, the first little while, when you're just bombing
1:56:33
Speaker 14: all the time, it's rough.
1:56:35
Speaker 2: I could not survive that.
1:56:38
Speaker 3: Okay, Like I've been knocked out in front of many thousand,
1:56:41
Speaker 3: maybe a million people. I've had bad experiences, embarrassing experiences.
1:56:45
Speaker 3: I could not stand up behind a microphone and watch
1:56:49
Speaker 3: people think I'm not funny.
1:56:51
Speaker 14: Oh dude, yeah, I mean, well, at least somebody else
1:56:53
Speaker 14: was knocking you out right, can stand up?
1:56:56
Speaker 3: It's you.
1:56:56
Speaker 14: You're knocking yourself out right, like you're saying something that
1:57:00
Speaker 14: so they're like, why why did you Why did you
1:57:03
Speaker 14: say that into a microphone right like you said that
1:57:05
Speaker 14: out in public.
1:57:06
Speaker 2: That's why radio is so great.
1:57:08
Speaker 3: I say things that people don't find funny all the time.
1:57:10
Speaker 2: I don't have to see it.
1:57:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to see you don't. Yeah, no,
1:57:13
Speaker 3: that is nice, that's very nice.
1:57:15
Speaker 14: But yeah, it's uh in stand up, it's it can
1:57:19
Speaker 14: be very rough there. Yeah, there was once. Man, there's
1:57:22
Speaker 14: always one that comes to mind. I had a little
1:57:24
Speaker 14: corporate event and what I thought would what I was
1:57:28
Speaker 14: going into was people were drinking and having a good time.
1:57:31
Speaker 14: But it wasn't any of that. It was like this
1:57:34
Speaker 14: thing where they were, you know, all buttoned up and
1:57:36
Speaker 14: ready to go and lights were on and everyone could
1:57:39
Speaker 14: see and I'm like, ah, and this was a couple
1:57:42
Speaker 14: of years ago, and I'll never forget that moment.
1:57:44
Speaker 15: It was just so rough and it was like twenty
1:57:46
Speaker 15: minutes of just pure Oh yeah, it was rough.
1:57:50
Speaker 3: That's awesome, it is, it really is.
1:57:52
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
1:57:54
Speaker 3: But you stick to it. Yeah, yeah, you.
1:57:56
Speaker 14: Just stick to it and you learn and you get
1:57:58
Speaker 14: better and you you know, try it a different way.
1:58:02
Speaker 5: There's a lot of guys that go and don't do
1:58:04
Speaker 5: that part. They just keep going and bombing.
1:58:10
Speaker 3: Those are fun to watch too, That would be me probably.
1:58:13
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:58:14
Speaker 3: Okay, So like there's you see these people doing crowd
1:58:18
Speaker 3: work all the time. You see guys or gals that
1:58:21
Speaker 3: seem like there may be a little bit more improvisational. Obviously,
1:58:24
Speaker 3: you got to write your routine and we were talking
1:58:27
Speaker 3: off air. You've got you know, almost a full hour.
1:58:30
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I got about a full hour. I talk
1:58:33
Speaker 14: a lot about my kids. I've got kids that are
1:58:35
Speaker 14: about teenage, you know, pre teenage, so that that's plenty of.
1:58:39
Speaker 2: Material right there.
1:58:40
Speaker 5: I could do a whole hour on that.
1:58:41
Speaker 14: But I talk about I used to be you know, Mormon,
1:58:45
Speaker 14: uh college football player I talk about right now. A
1:58:50
Speaker 14: fun one that I've been doing speaking of CrowdWork is
1:58:52
Speaker 14: conspiracy theories, you know, especially with what's going.
1:58:54
Speaker 2: On in the world today.
1:58:56
Speaker 3: So that's been a fun one.
1:58:57
Speaker 14: I just kind of talk about, you know, different conspiracies,
1:59:00
Speaker 14: get people's thoughts on them and stuff.
1:59:01
Speaker 3: So that's been a fun thing. So do you do
1:59:03
Speaker 3: you like the off the cuff stuff or the writing better.
1:59:08
Speaker 2: I like both, honestly.
1:59:09
Speaker 14: And the writing stuff is really fun just because you
1:59:13
Speaker 14: get to kind of work on it and like, you know,
1:59:15
Speaker 14: you try something, it didn't really work, you know.
1:59:18
Speaker 15: But that's also that also always hard.
1:59:20
Speaker 14: Because you'll go and you'll spend you know, hours on
1:59:23
Speaker 14: this thing, and then you go and you try it
1:59:25
Speaker 14: and it doesn't look at and you're.
1:59:26
Speaker 3: Like, oh, come on when you try it, right, Because
1:59:29
Speaker 3: like we'll use a sports analogy because that's what we're
1:59:32
Speaker 3: doing here. Yeah, talk radio, right, So, like you're an
1:59:35
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. You design a play, you think it's gonna work,
1:59:38
Speaker 3: you got a special personnel package for it. You're just like,
1:59:42
Speaker 3: we got to get the ball into RJ's hands. This
1:59:44
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense.
1:59:45
Speaker 2: Let's do this.
1:59:46
Speaker 3: You take it out to practice, you run it a
1:59:47
Speaker 3: few times, a defense blows it up. You're like, oh,
1:59:49
Speaker 3: that didn't work out the way I thought it would,
1:59:52
Speaker 3: and it never sees the light of day. When you
1:59:53
Speaker 3: are trying out your stuff, are you doing it on stage? Yeah?
1:59:58
Speaker 14: I mean yeah, for sure, Yeah, I mean you doing
2:00:00
Speaker 14: a lot of open mics. So that's that's where the
2:00:02
Speaker 14: open mic comes in. Uh, you know, people to hear about,
2:00:04
Speaker 14: you know, comics going to open mics, and that's kind
2:00:06
Speaker 14: of like practice, honestly, that's that's.
2:00:08
Speaker 15: Like a comedian's practice.
2:00:10
Speaker 14: They're going in, they're you know, trying new material, they're
2:00:13
Speaker 14: trying different things. And the other thing about open mics
2:00:15
Speaker 14: there's different you know, there's different places, different people, you know,
2:00:19
Speaker 14: different environments. So you want to try it in all
2:00:21
Speaker 14: different environments and that's usually how that goes. You know,
2:00:25
Speaker 14: usually where where the worst bombs happen is when you
2:00:28
Speaker 14: do you're bombing on a weekend, you know, because that's
2:00:30
Speaker 14: usually when like you should be doing a lot better.
2:00:33
Speaker 3: That's when you're not running the practice place. Yeah, that's
2:00:38
Speaker 3: like this is our bread and butter is yeah.
2:00:40
Speaker 14: Yeah, and they and they and they're taking your stuff
2:00:42
Speaker 14: that Yeah, you've been you've been working on and you
2:00:45
Speaker 14: will throw some stuff in, you know, Like I'm doing
2:00:47
Speaker 14: some weekend shows this uh, you know up in our
2:00:50
Speaker 14: up in the wise guys Ogden uh opening for Jenna
2:00:53
Speaker 14: Kim Jones and and and so I might try, you know,
2:01:00
Speaker 14: maybe a joker. Shore are different tags, you know in
2:01:02
Speaker 14: some of those, you know, can get longer sets on those.
2:01:06
Speaker 14: But I usually don't go too far into the woods
2:01:08
Speaker 14: on weekend stuff.
2:01:11
Speaker 3: So the the grind of like climbing the ladder in
2:01:17
Speaker 3: stand up comedy. I'm a big stand up comedy fan,
2:01:19
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I know anything about the
2:01:21
Speaker 3: industry or not. I feel like maybe I at least
2:01:25
Speaker 3: pay attention to the idea that like it isn't glamorous
2:01:28
Speaker 3: at first, And there's a lot of similarities with like
2:01:31
Speaker 3: certain sports, Like I was in the MMA world, the
2:01:33
Speaker 3: combat sports world for a long time. Your first fight
2:01:36
Speaker 3: is for either free or for fifty dollars and then
2:01:39
Speaker 3: you hope someday you're fighting for a million or whatever.
2:01:42
Speaker 3: Stand up comedy feels like it's a little like that.
2:01:45
Speaker 14: Oh very much. Oh yeah, I mean you're yeah, I
2:01:47
Speaker 14: mean open mics. You're not getting paid for open mics.
2:01:50
Speaker 14: So yeah, I mean the first couple years, you know, first,
2:01:53
Speaker 14: first one hundred times you're on stage, at least, you're
2:01:57
Speaker 14: not even getting paid. Oftentimes you're paying. Sure, you know
2:02:00
Speaker 14: you're paying. Hey, I gotta pay parking lot to get
2:02:03
Speaker 14: into the venue. I gotta pay to get into the venue.
2:02:05
Speaker 14: I gotta pay for you know, I'm eating while I'm there.
2:02:07
Speaker 14: So you're losing money, you know, for the first long while,
2:02:12
Speaker 14: you know. And then yeah, and then you start to
2:02:13
Speaker 14: get gigs and yeah, it's few and far between, and
2:02:15
Speaker 14: they're twenty dollars here, fifty bucks here. You know, you
2:02:19
Speaker 14: get a hundred bucks. You're like, holy cow, I got
2:02:21
Speaker 14: a hundred bucks.
2:02:22
Speaker 2: What shut up?
2:02:24
Speaker 3: When did you have the realization? And maybe it's still
2:02:28
Speaker 3: coming yeah that you're like, no, I can do this,
2:02:31
Speaker 3: like because there's there's the idea of like I want
2:02:34
Speaker 3: I want to learn how to play the guitar. You
2:02:35
Speaker 3: pick up a guitar, you start playing around with it,
2:02:37
Speaker 3: and then maybe you're like, oh, I'm actually decent at this,
2:02:40
Speaker 3: and maybe you put that guitar back down and you
2:02:42
Speaker 3: never touch it again again. In sports, we do this
2:02:45
Speaker 3: most of the time when we're kids. I played basketball.
2:02:48
Speaker 3: I was terrible at it. I'll wrestle instead. Right, A
2:02:51
Speaker 3: lot of people, I imagine in your world, they go
2:02:54
Speaker 3: to that first or second or tenth open mic and
2:02:56
Speaker 3: they're like, you know what, this isn't for me.
2:02:58
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did you side like, no, like, I'm
2:03:02
Speaker 2: getting a few laughs. I can actually do this.
2:03:04
Speaker 14: I mean, it was pretty early on, I would say
2:03:06
Speaker 14: within the within a couple of weeks, I was I
2:03:09
Speaker 14: was like, all right, I'm getting at least laughs. Because
2:03:12
Speaker 14: there was a few guys, uh, because I started write
2:03:14
Speaker 14: during COVID and so there's quite a few people that
2:03:16
Speaker 14: started around the same time as me, and so I
2:03:18
Speaker 14: was kind of comparing myself, you know, you kind of
2:03:20
Speaker 14: do that sort of thing. And I was getting some laughs,
2:03:23
Speaker 14: and I was like, all right, this is worth pursuing
2:03:26
Speaker 14: and at least it's it's fun. And that was the
2:03:28
Speaker 14: main thing for me, is I was having fun. I
2:03:33
Speaker 14: kind of told myself as soon as I stopped having fun.
2:03:35
Speaker 14: I'm gonna stop doing this. But I've just been having fun,
2:03:38
Speaker 14: you know, the whole time, and and just continuing to
2:03:41
Speaker 14: do that. And so it's been, you know, a great thing.
2:03:44
Speaker 14: I saw Louis c k last year.
2:03:47
Speaker 2: He's a big.
2:03:51
Speaker 15: Person.
2:03:51
Speaker 14: I look up to it and and it.
2:03:54
Speaker 15: Was awesome seeing him and and watching.
2:03:59
Speaker 14: How he did things. Now, that was a huge Actually,
2:04:00
Speaker 14: that was a big moment for me, like, oh, okay,
2:04:03
Speaker 14: I see what you're doing.
2:04:04
Speaker 15: I see what's going on. And that was actually very helpful.
2:04:08
Speaker 14: And watching other people is very helpful in understanding how
2:04:11
Speaker 14: you do things.
2:04:13
Speaker 15: And so he was actually really helpful just to watch.
2:04:15
Speaker 14: And just go, oh, okay, I kind of get I
2:04:18
Speaker 14: can't get what's going on.
2:04:19
Speaker 3: Okay, that's so interesting to me because again, like I
2:04:23
Speaker 3: watched football a lot, and I know that I can't
2:04:25
Speaker 3: play football. I tried. I know that, like I know
2:04:28
Speaker 3: where my limit was, Like okay, like Weaver state beyond that,
2:04:32
Speaker 3: you're not good, Okay, couldn't get on the field that
2:04:35
Speaker 3: you tall, Like I don't watch NFL games and be
2:04:37
Speaker 3: like I could do what that guy's doing. I do
2:04:39
Speaker 3: find myself Like I went to my lovely wife got
2:04:42
Speaker 3: his tickets to Shane Gillis when he came to the
2:04:44
Speaker 3: Delta Center. I love Shane Gillis. I'm watching Shane Gillis.
2:04:47
Speaker 3: I'm laughing at every single thing he says. But I
2:04:50
Speaker 3: have this delusional attitude towards it, just like he's not
2:04:53
Speaker 3: doing anything special. I could do this, we could all
2:04:57
Speaker 3: do this. He's just going up there, he's just talking
2:04:59
Speaker 3: about it life, he's laughing at his sister or whatever.
2:05:03
Speaker 3: I'm having those thoughts at the exact same time where
2:05:06
Speaker 3: I fully acknowledge from an intellectual standpoint that the gap
2:05:09
Speaker 3: between like the funny guy at the party and a
2:05:12
Speaker 3: headliner at a at a stadium.
2:05:14
Speaker 2: Show, that's a massive, massive gap.
2:05:16
Speaker 3: So like like but again there's no like set. The
2:05:21
Speaker 3: NFL doesn't even pay attention to you if you're the
2:05:23
Speaker 3: guy sitting on the on the couch being like, hey
2:05:25
Speaker 3: I could be I could do that in stand up comedy.
2:05:27
Speaker 3: You can go try it?
2:05:29
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, I mean essentially yeah you can't.
2:05:32
Speaker 3: Uh Ji mean that, you know?
2:05:34
Speaker 14: With with stand up it's it's one of those things
2:05:38
Speaker 14: where you can.
2:05:39
Speaker 15: Get better at it.
2:05:40
Speaker 14: It is a skill, okay, and you do have to
2:05:43
Speaker 14: have you do have to have some you know, just
2:05:46
Speaker 14: like with football, right, Like you can't send a guy
2:05:48
Speaker 14: that's five to two out there and expecting to play
2:05:51
Speaker 14: defensive line.
2:05:51
Speaker 15: It's not gonna happen, right, So you have to.
2:05:52
Speaker 14: Have some you know, sure, some something natural ability, something,
2:05:59
Speaker 14: a sense of yeah, sense of humor.
2:06:02
Speaker 15: You know you've got you know, you're willing to say things.
2:06:04
Speaker 2: That others aren't willing to say, but.
2:06:07
Speaker 14: You're But the big thing is is practicing, getting better
2:06:12
Speaker 14: and trying things.
2:06:13
Speaker 15: And then and like even with Shane gillis.
2:06:16
Speaker 14: The way he says things, his pauses right, the way
2:06:19
Speaker 14: he stands, all those things he's thought about. He's been
2:06:22
Speaker 14: doing it for you know, fifteen twenty years at this point,
2:06:25
Speaker 14: I think. And so that's all stuff that he's thought about,
2:06:28
Speaker 14: and he's you know, calculated through and he's thought about, Okay,
2:06:32
Speaker 14: I need to sit here, and.
2:06:35
Speaker 15: I'm gonna stay here for.
2:06:36
Speaker 14: This long, right, and and okay and that was too long, right,
2:06:40
Speaker 14: And so those are all things that he's developed over
2:06:42
Speaker 14: the years.
2:06:42
Speaker 15: And but you do have to have some level of
2:06:47
Speaker 15: something to start with.
2:06:49
Speaker 2: Can it be coached? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I
2:06:52
Speaker 2: Mean there's definitely guys that have done better. Aren't you lame?
2:06:55
Speaker 10: Though?
2:06:55
Speaker 3: If you like have like you call a comedy coach,
2:06:58
Speaker 3: like genuinely like yeah, because because if you want to
2:07:02
Speaker 3: get better at what I did for a long time
2:07:05
Speaker 3: or what I'm doing now, like, yeah, it's totally acceptable
2:07:08
Speaker 3: for you to be like I need to I need
2:07:10
Speaker 3: to get some coaching on this. Yeah.
2:07:12
Speaker 2: In comedy, isn't.
2:07:13
Speaker 3: That Like there's things no, you're not funny.
2:07:15
Speaker 15: That happened well yeah, okay, so there's both.
2:07:17
Speaker 14: There's definitely guys that it's like, hey, you're just not funny, dude, Like,
2:07:21
Speaker 14: let's just move on with our lives, like come on,
2:07:24
Speaker 14: and and a lot of the you know, some of
2:07:26
Speaker 14: those guys still don't get it, and they're open mic.
2:07:28
Speaker 3: You can come see wherever you want. But you know,
2:07:32
Speaker 3: with guys that are.
2:07:33
Speaker 14: Trying to get at it and trying to do better,
2:07:35
Speaker 14: there are people that do coach. I where I've where
2:07:41
Speaker 14: I've seen the most success because there are guys in
2:07:44
Speaker 14: Utah that have, you know, pre good followings one hundred
2:07:46
Speaker 14: k followers on Instagram and things of that nature, and
2:07:49
Speaker 14: are headlining and traveling around and really it's about learning
2:07:53
Speaker 14: from the guys ahead of you. The guys that are
2:07:55
Speaker 14: doing it, the guys, Hey, what do you want to
2:07:57
Speaker 14: be doing? Ask that guy, Hey, how did you do it?
2:08:00
Speaker 15: What did you do? What were the things?
2:08:02
Speaker 14: And really most comedians, most guys are pretty chill, they're
2:08:04
Speaker 14: pretty nice, They're pretty you know, open to hey, this
2:08:07
Speaker 14: is what I did, this is what works.
2:08:10
Speaker 2: You know.
2:08:11
Speaker 3: One of my favorite advices that I ever heard.
2:08:13
Speaker 14: Was one of the guys was saying, I'm not gonna
2:08:15
Speaker 14: say who the famous comedian was, but the famous comedians
2:08:18
Speaker 14: told them, you know what you should do, do something
2:08:19
Speaker 14: that nobody else has ever done. It's like, well, yeah,
2:08:25
Speaker 14: of course, of course, how do you come up with
2:08:28
Speaker 14: something that has never been Yeah, exactly human history, Yeah, exactly.
2:08:32
Speaker 14: So anyway, so that's yeah, the yeah, so there there
2:08:36
Speaker 14: is stuff that can be coached, there's stuff that can
2:08:38
Speaker 14: be done. But yeah, I mean, at the end of
2:08:39
Speaker 14: the day, just gotta kind of be funny and have
2:08:40
Speaker 14: a good time.
2:08:41
Speaker 10: R J.
2:08:42
Speaker 3: Rice is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
2:08:44
Speaker 3: We're down here at Big Willies seventeen seventeen, South Maine.
2:08:47
Speaker 3: It is opening day in baseball Sweet sixteen basketball. Tonight,
2:08:51
Speaker 3: food and drink specials at Big Willies. What's the funniest
2:08:55
Speaker 3: thing that happened to you while you were on the
2:08:57
Speaker 3: Utah football roster?
2:08:59
Speaker 14: Oh, man, dude, there was a lot of silly things
2:09:04
Speaker 14: that happened. We Uh, I'm trying to think of something
2:09:09
Speaker 14: that I can say on the.
2:09:15
Speaker 3: It's apparently friendly.
2:09:16
Speaker 14: I was like, well, the first one that comes to mind,
2:09:18
Speaker 14: I can't say exactly.
2:09:25
Speaker 15: Robert, I don't know the funniest thing.
2:09:29
Speaker 14: One of the funny ones was when we left Brian
2:09:31
Speaker 14: after the Sugar Bowl. Wait, Brian Johnson, our quarterback. We
2:09:35
Speaker 14: won the Sugar Bowl. We had just won the greatest
2:09:38
Speaker 14: game of Utah football history.
2:09:40
Speaker 2: We were undefeated.
2:09:42
Speaker 14: Brian Johnson, our leading quarterback, did all these things we
2:09:46
Speaker 14: had celebrated, and then we're almost to the hotel home
2:09:50
Speaker 14: and Brian's trying to call people because we left him
2:09:53
Speaker 14: at the stadium.
2:09:56
Speaker 3: Wait, is this a story we've heard? Eight seven seven
2:09:59
Speaker 3: three five three seven If you're listening, I'm sure did
2:10:03
Speaker 3: we know this happened? And I've just forgotten about it.
2:10:06
Speaker 3: Brian must have told this story. Oh, I'm sure he has. Yeah,
2:10:09
Speaker 3: that's what we just left him.
2:10:12
Speaker 14: Yeah, we just left him and somebody I can't remember
2:10:14
Speaker 14: whose phone. Somebody's phone is like, hey, somebody answers, like
2:10:19
Speaker 14: Brian's at the Superdome.
2:10:23
Speaker 11: Yeah.
2:10:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was that was a silly thing. Will
2:10:26
Speaker 3: you tell the story of your accidental touchdown?
2:10:29
Speaker 15: Oh dude, the accidental touchdown.
2:10:30
Speaker 5: That's a funny one.
2:10:31
Speaker 14: So we were playing Wyoming and it was a windy
2:10:35
Speaker 14: Dame Wyoming because there's nothing in larer me to stop
2:10:37
Speaker 14: the wind.
2:10:38
Speaker 15: It's always windy there.
2:10:40
Speaker 2: And we were I.
2:10:41
Speaker 14: Was on punt team and we were going down and
2:10:45
Speaker 14: the ball went right over the guy's head, barely missed him,
2:10:49
Speaker 14: but we didn't know it touched him.
2:10:50
Speaker 15: He didn't know it touched him. The only person that
2:10:52
Speaker 15: knew was the referee.
2:10:52
Speaker 2: It touched like his head.
2:10:53
Speaker 15: It touched his head, just barely touched his head. Yeah yeah.
2:10:56
Speaker 14: And so it went it trickled past him and went
2:10:58
Speaker 14: into the end zone. And so Clint Mauer, he was
2:11:02
Speaker 14: the long snapper. He gets up there first and then
2:11:04
Speaker 14: I get up their second, and we kind of look
2:11:06
Speaker 14: at each other and we look at the ball and
2:11:07
Speaker 14: balls just standing there. So I just kind of casually
2:11:09
Speaker 14: pick it up in the referee and I just kind
2:11:10
Speaker 14: of handed to him and he's holding his hands like
2:11:13
Speaker 14: this and touchdown position. And I said to him, I
2:11:16
Speaker 14: was like, did I just score a touchdown? And he goes,
2:11:18
Speaker 14: are you serious? So so now it gets better. So
2:11:24
Speaker 14: I told so that was back, you know, back in
2:11:26
Speaker 14: the day, right years ago. So I saw Clint Maher,
2:11:29
Speaker 14: that guy about a year ago and an alumni thing,
2:11:32
Speaker 14: and I was like, hey, Clint, you know we were talking,
2:11:34
Speaker 14: we were Chad and I and I.
2:11:36
Speaker 15: Said, do you remember that play? And he's like, dude,
2:11:38
Speaker 15: I have nightmares about that play every day. And I
2:11:41
Speaker 15: was like, nightmares. That seems obsessive, But why would you
2:11:44
Speaker 15: have nightmares? And he's like, RJ.
2:11:46
Speaker 14: If I had picked up that ball, I would have
2:11:48
Speaker 14: been the only long snapper in Utah football history to
2:11:51
Speaker 14: ever score a touchdown.
2:11:53
Speaker 15: And you were just some guy guy like, hey, I
2:11:59
Speaker 15: scored an accident, I don't touchdown.
2:12:00
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
2:12:01
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
2:12:02
Speaker 3: I mean it goes in the record book. Hey, it's
2:12:04
Speaker 3: in it's on the stats. So you get to tell
2:12:06
Speaker 3: people that they scored a touchdown. That's right, major in
2:12:09
Speaker 3: Division I football, that's right. That's like, that's a.
2:12:12
Speaker 2: Tiny percentage of the human population.
2:12:14
Speaker 6: There's very few of us.
2:12:15
Speaker 14: Yep, I was also My other claim to fame with
2:12:17
Speaker 14: football is that I was on uh were you on
2:12:20
Speaker 14: the college football game?
2:12:21
Speaker 15: The video game?
2:12:22
Speaker 3: No, it was it was pre the uh pre outlawing,
2:12:28
Speaker 3: but they were they only went too deep. Oh yeah yeah,
2:12:33
Speaker 3: and if you were like yeah, yes, yes, Like I
2:12:38
Speaker 3: was very very hopeful.
2:12:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, like oh yeah.
2:12:41
Speaker 3: I'm on the roster.
2:12:42
Speaker 2: In my second year.
2:12:42
Speaker 3: On the roster, We're like, we're one of the biggest
2:12:45
Speaker 3: teams in the country.
2:12:46
Speaker 12: This is cool.
2:12:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the game comes out and it's just like, oh,
2:12:51
Speaker 3: dang it, there's no number forty nine at all on
2:12:53
Speaker 3: the roster.
2:12:55
Speaker 14: I was the same way my first two years, my
2:12:57
Speaker 14: software e junior year, same exact thing.
2:12:59
Speaker 15: I was not on the game.
2:13:00
Speaker 14: And then finally my senior year, we were, you know,
2:13:02
Speaker 14: we were hyped up to be a good team and
2:13:04
Speaker 14: yadagan it and I killed the game and I was
2:13:06
Speaker 14: so pumped. I get on number seven, I'm right there
2:13:09
Speaker 14: and in the game, I'm black.
2:13:12
Speaker 2: I was so excited.
2:13:13
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, how awesome is this? So I
2:13:17
Speaker 3: was They put me in the uf in the UFC
2:13:19
Speaker 3: two video game, and I was like super thrilled.
2:13:25
Speaker 2: It was cool.
2:13:26
Speaker 3: Yeah it I have the kind of face that if
2:13:30
Speaker 3: you render me as a video game character, it looks
2:13:33
Speaker 3: exactly like me.
2:13:34
Speaker 2: Really, all right, they can do it.
2:13:36
Speaker 3: I am whatever you call that video game Jenik. I
2:13:40
Speaker 3: look just like I actually look And they got my
2:13:43
Speaker 3: tattoos right and everything, and I was just like, oh sweet,
2:13:46
Speaker 3: I'm in the UFC video game. And then I had
2:13:48
Speaker 3: one more fight in the UFC and then they cut me,
2:13:51
Speaker 3: and so then they took me out of the video game.
2:13:53
Speaker 3: So there was like a blessed nine months of my
2:13:55
Speaker 3: life where I was in a in the UFC two
2:13:58
Speaker 3: video game and you can find it. Actually, like Mike
2:14:03
Speaker 3: Tyson is also a downloadable character in that UFC video game.
2:14:07
Speaker 3: So I did a film thing for the Professional Fighters League.
2:14:10
Speaker 3: We were down with Mike Tyson at his like camp,
2:14:13
Speaker 3: at his weird like compound. We were filming some stuff,
2:14:18
Speaker 3: watching fights together, and as an icebreaker, the producer found
2:14:23
Speaker 3: a YouTube video of his video game character beating the
2:14:27
Speaker 3: you know what out of my video game character, and
2:14:30
Speaker 3: we watched that together and I was just like making
2:14:33
Speaker 3: a be oh Mike, come on man, and he was
2:14:36
Speaker 3: so confused. He was just like, wait a second, I'm
2:14:40
Speaker 3: in this video game. I'm like, yeah, we're both in
2:14:42
Speaker 3: this video game and you're beating me up in the
2:14:45
Speaker 3: video He's like, this is a real game, and I
2:14:46
Speaker 3: was like, yes, Mike, like this is UFC two. You're
2:14:49
Speaker 3: a character in UC two. And he's looking for his
2:14:51
Speaker 3: manager and he's like, he's like, nobody paid me to
2:14:54
Speaker 3: be in a video game. How do they get me
2:14:56
Speaker 3: in this game? And I'm sitting there with Mike. He's
2:15:00
Speaker 3: just knocked me out in the game in like forty seconds,
2:15:03
Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be funny, and it's upsetting
2:15:05
Speaker 3: him because he doesn't think he's.
2:15:08
Speaker 14: Not getting for the game, Like, I'm not sure how
2:15:12
Speaker 14: I ended up here.
2:15:15
Speaker 3: Oh that's funny. This coming in on the text line
2:15:17
Speaker 3: from ninety six to fifty three. The funniest part is
2:15:20
Speaker 3: r J was black, Joe Dale was white. He was actually,
2:15:23
Speaker 3: that's true, he was Joe Dale.
2:15:25
Speaker 2: Joe Dale was the other guy and he was white.
2:15:28
Speaker 2: Who's right on that.
2:15:29
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's true.
2:15:30
Speaker 2: That is fantastic, Yeah, Dudel Joe Dale.
2:15:33
Speaker 3: That's right, baby. All right, tell the people how they
2:15:35
Speaker 3: can find your stand up comedy.
2:15:37
Speaker 14: Uh yeah, any if you're on any type of social Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube,
2:15:42
Speaker 14: I'm on all that, r J.
2:15:44
Speaker 3: Rice.
2:15:45
Speaker 10: Uh.
2:15:45
Speaker 14: And then as far as the show, got a show
2:15:46
Speaker 14: next week April third, you can go to Wiseguyscomedy dot
2:15:50
Speaker 14: com for tickets for that.
2:15:51
Speaker 2: So yeah, love to see you. That's salt Lake.
2:15:54
Speaker 14: I'll salt Lake, salt Lake downtown location. Uh, salt Lake. Yeah,
2:15:58
Speaker 14: all right, Friday night.
2:16:00
Speaker 2: Go check it out.
2:16:01
Speaker 3: And like the football alum have come to your shows
2:16:04
Speaker 3: every now?
2:16:04
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, you can.
2:16:05
Speaker 15: Yeah, Coach Kelly came last one.
2:16:07
Speaker 14: Dude, we had Scali, we had we had Robert there,
2:16:10
Speaker 14: we had Stevenson, Sylvester old Sly came out.
2:16:14
Speaker 2: Who else? We had Boon Brothers.
2:16:16
Speaker 15: So yeah, if you come to a show, you.
2:16:17
Speaker 14: Might meet some NFL guys cool, not me, but somebody else.
2:16:23
Speaker 3: And you will see when he's on stage.
2:16:25
Speaker 15: RJ.
2:16:25
Speaker 3: Actually he's white. That's right. If Joe Dale comes the show,
2:16:30
Speaker 3: you will see that he.
2:16:30
Speaker 2: Is not he's not.
2:16:31
Speaker 3: Nope, i'd like the video game. Dude, Thanks for coming
2:16:35
Speaker 3: down and doing this.
2:16:36
Speaker 15: Thank you so much for having me.
2:16:37
Speaker 3: And let's when you have shows right when you when
2:16:39
Speaker 3: you like just come on and oh yeah for sure.
2:16:41
Speaker 2: Shoot the breeze and I appreciate it.
2:16:43
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, thank you so much.
2:16:45
Speaker 2: That's r J.
2:16:45
Speaker 3: Rice. Go get his stand up comedy tickets at Wise Guys,
2:16:49
Speaker 3: Salt Lake, April third.
2:16:52
Speaker 8: Uh.
2:16:52
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2:16:55
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Speaker 3: Valley Plumbing, Heating and Cooling. Oh man, I wanted to
2:17:36
Speaker 3: avoid this. I didn't want to talk about this. Pookakua
2:17:42
Speaker 3: has been accused of biting somebody at a club. James,
2:17:48
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen this. Uh. Pooka has
2:17:51
Speaker 3: a hard time keeping himself out of the wrong kind
2:17:53
Speaker 3: of headlines, and he's being sued right now for allegedly
2:17:57
Speaker 3: throwing out an anti Semitic slur and and then biting
2:18:00
Speaker 3: somebody hard enough to draw blood. The woman who has
2:18:04
Speaker 3: accused him said that it was an unwelcome situation, that
2:18:08
Speaker 3: she told him to stop, that he bit her once
2:18:10
Speaker 3: and then he bit her again, and the second time
2:18:12
Speaker 3: he bid her it was like an actual injury. And
2:18:16
Speaker 3: there's not really a lot of like denial coming out.
2:18:19
Speaker 3: The attorney or Puka said, oh, it was just horse play.
2:18:22
Speaker 3: So that sounds like there's some acknowledgment that biting actually happened.
2:18:26
Speaker 3: And then I was.
2:18:27
Speaker 2: Gonna just avoid the story.
2:18:28
Speaker 3: And then the reason why we're talking about it now
2:18:32
Speaker 3: is because I think it was yesterday a new video
2:18:35
Speaker 3: came out of the night of the alleged incident, and
2:18:38
Speaker 3: it shows Puka Nakua. It looks like they're in a
2:18:40
Speaker 3: club and he has passed out. He is unconscious on
2:18:44
Speaker 3: a couch and the alleged victim of his biting crime
2:18:48
Speaker 3: is they're dancing on the couch or dancing like next
2:18:52
Speaker 3: to the couch, and people are just filming it. It's
2:18:55
Speaker 3: bananas that people actually lived this life. And allegedly the
2:18:59
Speaker 3: video is from after the incident occurred, which I think
2:19:03
Speaker 3: is being used now by Puka's attorneys to suggest that
2:19:07
Speaker 3: like this person didn't feel threatened or they wouldn't have
2:19:09
Speaker 3: let I have no idea, But the important thing here
2:19:12
Speaker 3: is that shows Puka Nakua passed out in public. This
2:19:16
Speaker 3: is one of the top five wide receivers in the NFL.
2:19:19
Speaker 3: This is a guy who is very soon going to
2:19:23
Speaker 3: be eligible for generational wealth that everybody who ever played
2:19:30
Speaker 3: a sport ever dreams about but is always unrealistic. Right,
2:19:35
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba just got an average annual value
2:19:38
Speaker 3: on his contract extension of forty two million dollars per year.
2:19:44
Speaker 3: He's got one hundred and twenty million dollars fully guaranteed
2:19:48
Speaker 3: in that contract. Puka Nakua stands to gain something almost exactly,
2:19:53
Speaker 3: probably slightly better than that. Because of how these contract
2:19:56
Speaker 3: things go, there needs to be an intervention. The coop
2:20:00
Speaker 3: of family. I know that there's a bunch of them
2:20:02
Speaker 3: in the state of Utah. He's got a brother at
2:20:04
Speaker 3: BYU right now, Like the best interest of this young
2:20:09
Speaker 3: man is to just say, hey, I know you want
2:20:12
Speaker 3: to party.
2:20:13
Speaker 2: I know you want to do this thing. For now,
2:20:16
Speaker 2: you got to sober up.
2:20:18
Speaker 3: You gotta clean up, you gotta do whatever until you
2:20:21
Speaker 3: get this next contract until you get payday number two
2:20:24
Speaker 3: from the NFL. Remember, he's a fifth round draft pick,
2:20:27
Speaker 3: so is he making money, Sure, but he's making like
2:20:30
Speaker 3: a million dollars a year right now. Less than that,
2:20:33
Speaker 3: He's about to forty x his income. He's about to
2:20:39
Speaker 3: provide wealth that most families can never even possibly imagine
2:20:44
Speaker 3: for whomever he wants to share it with or.
2:20:46
Speaker 2: Just to keep it for himself.
2:20:48
Speaker 3: And the only thing standing in his way is this
2:20:52
Speaker 3: kind of behavior, this pattern that is developing around him
2:20:56
Speaker 3: not being able to keep himself out of the wrong
2:20:58
Speaker 3: types of headlines.
2:21:00
Speaker 2: It is a bad situation. I mean, some of this
2:21:04
Speaker 2: stuff could.
2:21:05
Speaker 3: Be construed as humorous if it didn't denote something perhaps
2:21:09
Speaker 3: more alarming, a lack of self control that you don't
2:21:12
Speaker 3: want to like. By all accounts, he seems to be, like,
2:21:16
Speaker 3: you know, a cool guy, a fun guy to be
2:21:19
Speaker 3: around for people that know him. I don't know him
2:21:23
Speaker 3: at all. I don't know his family at all. But
2:21:25
Speaker 3: this is problematic behavior that is going to potentially stand
2:21:28
Speaker 3: in his way for more important things. His talent means
2:21:33
Speaker 3: that the NFL is going to be incredibly permissive on
2:21:36
Speaker 3: some things, and he's still going to get a big contract,
2:21:39
Speaker 3: but you cannot afford to keep piling up these types
2:21:43
Speaker 3: of things, and it's a really, really bad look for
2:21:46
Speaker 3: your professionalism, for how people are going to perceive you
2:21:50
Speaker 3: as a teammate, as a whatever, member of the community.
2:21:54
Speaker 3: When I mean passing out in public is just a
2:21:58
Speaker 3: bad idea for anyone. It's dangerous for anyway, even if
2:22:01
Speaker 3: you're a it's the only way he can put himself
2:22:03
Speaker 3: in danger publicly by incapacitating himself with we assume it's
2:22:08
Speaker 3: probably excessive consumption of alcohol, at least in the context
2:22:11
Speaker 3: of this video.
2:22:12
Speaker 7: It's a bad deal, man, James. I did see the story.
2:22:17
Speaker 7: I did not see the video. I saw the story,
2:22:20
Speaker 7: and honestly, regardless of whether he's found liable in this
2:22:25
Speaker 7: lawsuit or what kind of settlement that he has to
2:22:27
Speaker 7: work out because of this lawsuit, it this is not
2:22:33
Speaker 7: the kind of what he's being alleged of doing. The
2:22:37
Speaker 7: biting and whatever else is not is not anything that
2:22:42
Speaker 7: it's gonna be crazy damaging. In my opinion, it might
2:22:46
Speaker 7: end up hurting his contract, but it's the kind of
2:22:48
Speaker 7: thing that it's like, this is another incident with him publicly,
2:22:53
Speaker 7: it's gonna be kind of a pylon thing, not necessarily
2:22:57
Speaker 7: an individually this this is a reason why we shouldn't
2:23:00
Speaker 7: invest in this guy kind of thing. And like you say,
2:23:04
Speaker 7: it's it feels like it's getting to a point where
2:23:07
Speaker 7: maybe it's past a point where he needs to get
2:23:11
Speaker 7: He and the people around him need to talk some
2:23:14
Speaker 7: sense into him to hate to be like hey, especially publicly,
2:23:18
Speaker 7: like tone it down.
2:23:20
Speaker 6: You have a lot to lose here if you if
2:23:23
Speaker 6: you aren't more careful.
2:23:27
Speaker 2: Well said. And again, he has access to.
2:23:32
Speaker 3: Any positive like any resource that that he needs to
2:23:36
Speaker 3: help him. I don't know if he's got an addiction problem.
2:23:39
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's an alcoholic, or if he
2:23:40
Speaker 3: like deals we do. It seems like substances are at
2:23:44
Speaker 3: least part of these these incidents that we're hearing about
2:23:49
Speaker 3: that I'm not gonna make any accusations about whether or
2:23:51
Speaker 3: not that's a more of a significant pattern of behavior
2:23:54
Speaker 3: for him in terms of addiction or anything like that.
2:23:57
Speaker 3: But like the NFL be the community down in for
2:24:02
Speaker 3: him and provo like, there's all of these different layers
2:24:06
Speaker 3: of things of people and institutions that would would rather
2:24:10
Speaker 3: see Pooka succeed and would like to protect Puka from
2:24:13
Speaker 3: bad decisions. And I know that the hardest thing is
2:24:17
Speaker 3: to pick up a phone and call and ask for
2:24:19
Speaker 3: help or whatever. But like, he's got what, four brothers,
2:24:24
Speaker 3: and it's probably unreasonable to ask baby brother, the younger brother,
2:24:29
Speaker 3: the youngest who's at BYU right now. It's probably unreasonable
2:24:33
Speaker 3: to ask him to be like, hey, go get go
2:24:35
Speaker 3: fix your older brother's problems.
2:24:36
Speaker 2: But he's got older brothers that have not had the level.
2:24:41
Speaker 3: Of success in football or elsewhere that he has had,
2:24:44
Speaker 3: and they should want to protect him from it too.
2:24:48
Speaker 3: They lost their dad unfortunately when they were young. That's
2:24:51
Speaker 3: a really really tough thing for people to get through.
2:24:53
Speaker 3: But that's a very very tight knit family as far
2:24:56
Speaker 3: as we understand.
2:24:57
Speaker 2: Because of that, Like his older.
2:24:59
Speaker 3: Brother, if nobody else, big brother kind of cool. What
2:25:04
Speaker 3: are you doing, Samson nicool? What are you doing.
2:25:09
Speaker 2: That you have to stop.
2:25:11
Speaker 3: This from becoming an issue for the most talented and
2:25:15
Speaker 3: most successful of your family. Not so you could get
2:25:18
Speaker 3: money from him, but so that he doesn't live with
2:25:20
Speaker 3: regret for, you know, squandering the opportunities he's got.
2:25:24
Speaker 2: Don't be biting people, pookah, come on, man.
2:25:29
Speaker 3: The only other thing I wanted to touch on in
2:25:31
Speaker 3: the Daily Dump was Tom Brady. When he threw one
2:25:35
Speaker 3: touchdown pass in that flag football exhibition that he did,
2:25:40
Speaker 3: he started to be like, come makes you wonder? No, Tom,
2:25:43
Speaker 3: it doesn't make anyone else wonder. We know you could
2:25:46
Speaker 3: throw touchdown passes. Still, we don't want to see you
2:25:49
Speaker 3: back on an NFL football field. And he did inquired
2:25:53
Speaker 3: with the NFL what the rules were around active players
2:25:56
Speaker 3: holding ownership stakes, because of course he does hold an
2:25:59
Speaker 3: ownership stake in the Las Vegas Raiders, and the league said, no,
2:26:02
Speaker 3: we don't like that, and he said, okay, fine, I'll
2:26:04
Speaker 3: stay retired then, but it's happened, like, at least for
2:26:06
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, Tom Brady contemplated a comeback.
2:26:12
Speaker 2: Don't do it, Tom, we don't need it. You don't
2:26:14
Speaker 2: need it either.
2:26:15
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was pretty funny to hear him say they
2:26:18
Speaker 7: didn't they didn't like the idea. I'm gonna leave it
2:26:20
Speaker 7: there like and then and then say I'm happily retired.
2:26:24
Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know, man, like you, why are
2:26:29
Speaker 6: you bringing this up.
2:26:30
Speaker 7: If you were totally satisfied in being retired?
2:26:36
Speaker 3: Also, dude, like we saw what happened with your family
2:26:39
Speaker 3: when you came back to football.
2:26:41
Speaker 2: Don't do that again.
2:26:43
Speaker 7: I mean, hey, I don't have a I mean he
2:26:45
Speaker 7: still has to take care of his kids.
2:26:47
Speaker 3: I don't.
2:26:48
Speaker 7: I don't have to worry about that as much anymore.
2:26:51
Speaker 7: That's gonna get mad at me. Then maybe that's worth
2:26:53
Speaker 7: it is thinking is I'm don't have to worry about
2:26:55
Speaker 7: the marriage. But come on, man, Also, just like you
2:27:02
Speaker 7: were great, you were one of the all time greats.
2:27:05
Speaker 7: The only thing that affects the legacies of the all
2:27:07
Speaker 7: time greats and the reputations of the all time greats
2:27:10
Speaker 7: and calls into those things in the question, it's like, yeah,
2:27:12
Speaker 7: Michael Jordan, did you really need to play for the Wizards?
2:27:15
Speaker 7: He played really good basketball for the Wizards.
2:27:18
Speaker 3: But it's like you're only undermined, you're only undercutting your
2:27:20
Speaker 3: own legend when you do stuff like that. Anyway.
2:27:24
Speaker 9: Uh.
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Speaker 3: Another reminder, Bill Riley is going to be hosting the
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Speaker 3: one more PGA Tour leaderboard update here, James, what's going
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Speaker 7: All right, Paul Warring is still your leader at seven under.
2:29:13
Speaker 7: He is finished with his day, as are most of
2:29:16
Speaker 7: the golfers out there on course. Sam Burns is tied
2:29:19
Speaker 7: for second with a small group of guys at five under,
2:29:23
Speaker 7: a couple shots off the lead.
2:29:24
Speaker 6: Tied for fifth, a host of guys including.
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Speaker 7: Kurt Kittiyama at four under let's see, tied for eighth.
2:29:31
Speaker 7: You got Ricky Fowler Jonathan Vegas at three under. That
2:29:37
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2:29:40
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2:29:46
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2:29:48
Speaker 7: Still got basically a hole back the whole back, nine
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Speaker 3: Bill is on the show tomorrow, I will be in
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, uh, and I will.
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Speaker 3: Be uh joining, I believe for the airing of grievances
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Speaker 3: is the plan.
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Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken, I'm I got a feeling that
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Speaker 7: but we but we definitely need your hit with him.
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Speaker 7: You definitely need to be like, I got it, I
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill, it's still the Sean O'Connell Show, even though
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Speaker 3: we're having you fill in, all right.
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Speaker 8: See.
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Speaker 3: The airing congrievances is something we do on Fridays. But
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Speaker 3: h yeah, I look forward to that and I know
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