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Episode 25: What If...Obi-Wan Turned to the Dark Side? · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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about releasing some new episodes started soon.
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I think he moved to Nashville. He did?
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Yes. Yeah.
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Or like, they area? How's it going?
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Yeah, well, it's on Jay, what's Tennessee?
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Like, you're a lot closer to me now than when you were in Santa
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Just because it's my favorite screenshot of Obi-Wan from the
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Clone Wars. And so, what better thing to use
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for a cover Arch, then that handsome Jedi face, I couldn't
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agree more. Thank you Monica.
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So, speaking of Obi-Wan, Disney day came and went with Nary, a
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ripple in the water. Yeah, I should insert cricket
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sound effects cert cricket sounds.
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So, since we didn't get anything at least, not anything worth
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mentioning on this show. The minute we get a teaser
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trailer or a trailer of any kind or anything worth talking about.
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We will do an emergency episode and we have great plans for how
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we're going to introduce that emergency episode.
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We're actually a little disappointed that we didn't get
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to do that this time around. Yeah because it would have been
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hilarious. Lauren has a brilliant plan and
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I'm 100% behind it. So here's to waiting for the
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next whatever day they decide to Grace us with a trailer it but
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it was not yeah if not if not yesterday then when like what's
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what's the holdup? I don't Disney don't know but it
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was not Disney plus day so and like I get it.
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Some people were like why couldn't they have at least
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given us a month when it's going to Come out and it's probably
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because production is fluid. Yeah.
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And it's not always going to be They don't know a timeline or a
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schedule until like very close to the end of production or at
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least post production, but still, like they could have said
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something it could have given us something.
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Yeah. And I mean we had the sizzle
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reel that came out as a leak. So someone got fired.
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Yeah. But yeah.
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Yeah, and I mean, that was all well and good because we got
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concept art which we love concept art you and I I thought
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I was pretty cool, but some people were actually a little
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freaked out by it. On the throne looking at what I
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assume to be a transmission of Obi-Wan's, warning to the other
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Jedi. That's that was my
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interpretation of that art, you know, that when the warning
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thing that happens in that we get to see in Rebels that, that
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made me really excited. Internally look physically.
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Yeah, I had a physical reaction to that but, you know, it's just
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like whatever, you know, whatever.
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Yeah. I mean it wasn't anything that
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exciting. I guess it was fine.
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It was fun. It's better.
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I guess the nothing at all. But I guess we, it wasn't even
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special, right? Didn't you say it was shown to
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like board of directors stakeholders.
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They like that almost a year ago or something so it's like
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whatever. So anyway I say this now because
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the second, the real shit drops will cover it here.
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Yeah. Well, do like an emergency in
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between drop if it's not regular drop day.
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They're good people, they're funny people and so thank you
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for the invite anyway, all of this fluff aside we're getting
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into Sith Obi-Wan today because we want to that's right.
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Damn it. So it's more of a what if
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Episode kind of because he's not a Sith nor ever really could be
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my God. That's, that's the reaction.
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I get all the time from people like of all the characters.
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Everyone is the least likely to fall, it's like yeah, no shit,
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that's why it's funny. Yes.
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To like, turn it totally completely on its ear and see
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like, if there was anything that was gonna push him over the
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edge, what would that be? Every everybody's got a Breaking
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Point and if you've ever watched Batman, if you know the killing
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joke, you know the Joker think. So it takes is one bad day to
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make someone lose their mind. So yes, but yeah I don't know.
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I love, I love the high brow. Arguments they that show up, I
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mean, we already discussed Obi-Wan being borderline
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cinnamon Rowley, you know. So here we are talking about him
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being an actual Sith or if there was ever a situation that would
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push him over that edge. It's kind of its kind of not
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believable. No.
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Because he's been pushed to the edge.
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How many times already I made his life?
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Is the most depressing and he still didn't turn.
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So, but it's just kind of And to think like what if yeah well
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there's this line in the Lawless, it's the famous line
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where he says you can kill me, but you will never destroy me.
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It takes strength to resist the dark side, only the weak embrace
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it, which to me kind of sounded the last time I listen to it,
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sounded to me like he was acknowledging that there was
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Darkness inside himself and everybody but weak people are
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the ones who give Into it, which, you know, sometimes it
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had struck me before. It's just like allowed Brazen
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thing to save, like only the weak embrace it.
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But this time, it struck me as like, maybe he thought of
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himself as having Darkness inside him.
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Well II, subscribe to the idea that there's a balance of light
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and dark and everyone. It's just a matter of what we
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give in to a different moments. I mean, The thing is is ouch
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because he's basically calling his his own Padawan week because
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I mean, Anakin was weak enough to go far for it, I mean fall
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into the dark side will fall for Palpatine to.
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I mean Palpatine biggest of them all but I mean, Maybe it's a
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bonus point for Obi-Wan, because he acknowledges that he had that
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in him and still was aware enough not to fall for it, I
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guess is what I'm trying to say. Well only given pinion, maybe
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his opinion changed after watching Anakin fall, maybe he
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couldn't say that only the weak embrace it.
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But because, you know, how we are, where we say one thing, and
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then life happens and our feelings change.
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Yes, that Yeah, I mean that to me was an indication of like
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that person is never turning to the dark side like hearing that
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line him, speak that line is like, yeah, nothing is really
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going to push him. If this moment doesn't push him
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then no moment, it's gonna push. I like the idea of cytha we won
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just because he looks good in red.
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I mean I'm that shallow admit it but I liked Idea because you
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ever see the fan art on, like the social media Universe of
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like Anakin is Darth Vader Obi-Wan as like you know an
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Inquisitor and Inquisitor. Thank you.
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So I've seen art of those three as like, what if they would have
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all turned or, or the fan art of like, Luke and Leia as dark,
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Luke and dark layout, which I can't stand, I don't like that.
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But for some reason, I'm okay with like dabbling in the idea
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that there's a Sith, Obi-Wan concept out there.
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I don't think it's just because he looks good in red and black
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but we cinnamon the Mandalorian armor.
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Yeah, part of it. It looks really good on it.
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Yeah, it's like legendary that it is armor.
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Yeah, but like I could see him of all the people who have had
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the worst things happen to them sequentially, throughout their
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life, Obi-Wan had the most chances to be like, fuck it.
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I'm giving I'm, that's it. Yeah, and give in just because
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of the shit he's been put through.
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Yeah. Losing his master losing his
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love losing his best friend, brother, Pat Padawan.
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It's my new rap release Padawan but like oh you know seriously
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of all the things right? Yeah damn but yeah resisted so
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Well, he's like the Galahad character in.
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Like, in the King Arthur stories, Galahad is the
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embodiment of perfection. He's never tempted, he never
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fails, he never does anything wrong.
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And when he finds the Holy Grail, he's like the character
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who finds the Grail, God literally just Scoops him up and
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bring him right to heaven. Like, it doesn't even die.
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He just like a sense into the heavens.
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Well, that's not realistic. No, I mean not at all.
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But I think that will be one is kind of like the character based
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on him who is like Faith, never really Falls hers and even if it
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does, he like won't really acknowledge it and he just stays
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very pure, pretty much the entire time.
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But still like there's internal, there's internal hurt there.
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Oh, absolutely. And I'm interested to see what
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they'll do in the Kenobi series. Talking about that, but or if
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they'll even delve into it at all, I assume that they will
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because in that little snippet, we got Deborah Chow was saying
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that it's a very dark time in Obi-Wan's plotline, I love dark,
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I do drink, bring me all the dark.
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What our users? I mean don't bother bringing It
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on Disney plus, they are anything but bring us and the
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don't Kita. And, you know, it probably it's
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not all going to be in season 1. Don't forget, I hope there are.
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I'm sure there will be multiple Seasons.
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Yeah, yeah. It'll be interesting to see
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where they go with it but you're absolutely right.
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I mean it's the darkest time period and we don't get any of
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that up until this moment like yeah, with this series.
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It's what bridging a huge gap have fucking crazy.
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Is it also to say that is the darkest period in his life?
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Cries entering all the things that is that have happened to
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this character. It's like, if this happened to a
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real person, you'd lose your damn mind.
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Yeah. Just be unsalvageable.
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Okay? So he was young and he lost
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Qui-Gon. That would be hard, but it's
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he's thrust into a training. He now has to train the child
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that Qui-Gon was going to try. I mean it's it's the twofold
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like he loses Satine and it is immediately thrust into fighting
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a war that she never wanted. Like right outside of where she
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just died, right? And then, When he loses Anakin,
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he's immediately thrust into protecting Anakin sign.
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Like it's like there's two sides to every painful event that
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Obi-Wan's ever had. He doesn't even have time, or
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you would think that he doesn't have time to absorb what just
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happened because he's immediately put into another
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trying situation that requires more of him.
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Well maybe that was what saved him maybe.
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So because Purpose, he had purpose after those deep losses.
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And that's I think when you're grieving being able to take
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action of any kind, this kind of a comfort, when you're sitting
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there feeling helpless and hopeless, then your your
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feelings just kind of Eat You Alive.
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Yeah, and now that you mention it, all of these Darksiders the
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Sith and particular place all of their purpose in being that Sith
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or subscribing to the dark side or like achieving power through
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their specific. Dark means, mmm.
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So I do believe that's a good point that may have been what
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saved Obi-Wan because he had a much different purpose, each
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time. And it was, I wouldn't say
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positive but they involved like Putting aside like selfish.
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Yeah, which he had to rise to the occasion and every time,
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although I will say, probably the the time with Luke is the
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least distracting because he was kind of sitting alone in his
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little Hut with his GOP outside and Uncle Owen keeps running him
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off the homestead, telling him to get lost.
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So yeah, so he has time to go 02 to Anakin's mother's grave and
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apologized, which is going to be, they have to put that in the
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show, right? Don't have to put that in the
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show. Someone sent me a task on
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Tumblr, like, a year ago asking me to write that scene and it's
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like, I will do it and I should probably do it before the
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Kenobi. Show comes out, so it doesn't do
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it before. Yeah, no one.
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No one can accuse me of, well, I'll go ahead and get the glue
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right now to put the pieces of my heart back together.
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After I read it. I gotta have time to write it
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first. It will shatter into a million
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pieces will her imagine that moment that would be awful
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because oh my god, did Obi-Wan ever meet Shmi?
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He was back in the ship during that whole time.
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Yeah. He never met her.
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So it was only Qui-Gon and Padme that met Shmi Skywalker.
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And I don't even know if he Did he know that she's me died
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because he doesn't know the Anakin wouldn't butchered a
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village full of people. No, because he only told Padme
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that he butchered a village full of people and Palpatine.
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Oh yeah, well, Palpatine was proud, papa in that moment
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mother. So speaking of Palpatine, I've
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heard a really brilliant. What if which maybe I came up
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with? I can't remember.
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Did I come over this or not? Okay.
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Everett. So there's this idea that one of
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the best times to have tried to turn ob1 would have been right
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after quaggans, death, because Palpatine was there, he was in
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Naboo and like he would have known that this Jedi Knight just
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lost his master and just kill the Sith possibly using like
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heightened emotion and rage to do it.
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Truth and like, instead, he's still focusing on Anakin because
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obviously is the chosen. As in one, blah, blah blah.
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But like, it could have been like an interesting experiment
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to try and manipulate certain manipulating Obi-Wan.
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At that point, it was so young and impressionable and emotional
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at the moment. Very yeah, maybe he did it.
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Not happen because Obi-Wan. Was you could sense the good in
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him. Maybe probably King could sense.
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I'm sure. Yes, I'm sure.
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But I mean, it would have made a good.
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What is? No, that would have been, that
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would have been the moment, right?
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I mean, There were so many moments but Palpatine was there
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for that one. Yeah. so, that would have, I I'm
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a sucker for the idea of only one being Palpatine's Apprentice
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but like Well you wrote a story about it I did and I can't wait
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to write the third part because it's all about that.
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Yeah. And it's not like he is happy
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about it, he doesn't want to be but is like that's the thing
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with Sith. It's like all of its a power
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struggle and that's it is fun about it, not just a person
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who's like, there against their will.
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It's like, yeah, a battle of wits begins.
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You know what Obi-Wan is a good actor because he was Was rako
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hardeen and he played the part insanely.
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Well in that role, a little disturbingly.
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Well right? So he stabs a guy with a fork.
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Seriously in prison? Yes.
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In prison. How do they have Forks in
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prison? He also like beat the living
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shit out of Anakin and put him in a sleeper.
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Yes. Yeah.
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There's a lot of Pride. I have a we have to do an
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episode on just those two. Mark.
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And we actually got a request for it from our last episode
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where we ask people to like, if is there something you are
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confused by or won't explain to see that one?
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Someone ask for that. I think it was on YouTube and
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I'm, I'm like, yes, I have answers to some of the questions
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that they have. So that really, we need to do it
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because I just said it and people are people are asking for
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it. So yeah, we have a lot of
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thoughts on that whole thing. Yeah, that's an interesting Arc
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and like he goes, I mean, he keeps trying to be a good person
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in that. Dark like he keeps trying to
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like not completely lose himself but he does seem very
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duplicitous shit and they're really hard doing or what makes
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you wonder you know for the greater good.
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What a person will do. Yeah in the name of, you know
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what I mean? I mean, look, back through
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history. Yeah.
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In real life like real history for sure, that's what I mean.
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Yeah, in in the planets history and Humanities history not not a
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lot of good has come out of in the name of filling.
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The Like yeah, humans. Don't have a good track record.
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No, we don't. That's why we live in the
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fantasy world, on this podcast. Exactly.
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We like the what ifs that are safe, like, yes.
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What? If Obi-Wan turned into the evil
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bastard? You know, and fell to the dark
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side. We know it's not true and it
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would never happen but who it's fun to think about.
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Well if you're writing it, you control the dangerous, you know,
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how far you're going to take it and not like that's it.
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All over into like just agonizing torture.
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But do we know what Dave filoni has ever said about the Jardin
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Arc. Has he said anything?
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Yes, he is. And that's some of the stuff I
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want to talk about, but not about Obi-Wan necessarily he's
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talked about Why? That Arc is important for
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Anakin. Yeah well that's yeah that's
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yeah. Part of it but it is even though
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he's not like the main focus of that episode it's like a very
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pivotal moment in Anakin's plotline.
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Mmm. So yeah, felonious I'd be
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curious what he says about Obi-Wan.
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I have the blue rays of Clone Wars and they all have each
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episode has behind the scenes, like commentary.
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But I don't have a Blu-ray player right now, so I can't
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watch but I'll need to for that. Episode will be a good resource.
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Well, my friend has it probably a 90-inch television with a
21:25
Blu-ray player so we should ask him.
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Can we can we check out our Clone Wars DVDs on your nice TV
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with your nice Blu-ray. Player be awesome an indoor
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theater. Yeah.
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We'll just stop by. I mean he lives nowhere near me
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but we could fly down to see him and that be fun.
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I've Loved. I always love and revenge when
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he's using Ventress has lightsaber.
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Yes, like the only time you ever see op1 with a red lightsaber.
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It's truly looks great. Holding it even though he claims
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it's not his color. Yeah, he's wrong sets.
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Him being humble. Yeah, it suits him very well.
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Yeah. Diagnose it He's just trying to
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be humble about it in front of interest, just to piss her off
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even more. You know what I mean?
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Well and I've always thought and that like I guess this is part
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of what I write about my Fanfictions but I feel like
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malls greatest revenge and even says like he's not really
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interested in killing ob1 in the Lawless.
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At least I'm sure that plot changes as time goes on but it's
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like the best revenge against the person like that is to make
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them lose themself. It's like not to kill him but
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Like destroy him and make him turn to the dark side would be
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the best revenge. Basically break down everything
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that is Obi-Wan's Foundation, which is all good stuff.
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The exact opposite of mall if you win If you didn't fall and
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Qui gonn died, he could have fallen with Satine died but then
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like if he didn't fall after Anakin's disaster, that
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nothing's going to push him over the edge.
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No, no. And like he still seemed to be
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very in keeping with the Jedi Code when Luke comes along in a
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new hope he's, you know still talking ya kindly about the
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Jedi. Where's Ahsoka is already very
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bitter about it? Yeah.
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I mean, wouldn't it have been nice to have like seeing it just
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once like we could have gotten it in mortis.
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That would have been the perfect time if you're gonna ever.
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Why didn't we? I'll soak a wet dark and Anakin
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but not Obi-Wan. That had been purposefully I'm
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sure it is because he's Galahad nothing, temps him, not even the
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darkest well of the dark side, but like they could like damn I
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didn't think about Morris so fun, honestly, like just imagine
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how fun that would be to play if James Arnold Taylor.
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Gotcha play that. So that way it'll be amazing.
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Oh, I would love to hear him voice that just from a voice
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actor, standpoint. If we ever get to interview him,
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I'm going to ask him about that. Yes, because it's like a part of
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the character, they never got to dive into.
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And, of course it's nice that he's like a pure character but
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like it's fun when people like I think, why people love when
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characters suffer, for lack of a better term, I think part of it
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is because you see a person really strong in their
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foundation, and then when you take that Foundation away, and
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you start to break it down and the character has to Explain to
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themselves why they believe what they believe you know and like
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prove to themselves that they are what they say they are that
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is validating and interesting for the audience to see.
24:47
Yes, very true. That's a good point.
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He's constantly having shit like that thrown in his face and he's
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having to like revalidate himself over and over and I
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think that's why people really enjoy watching ob1.
25:02
Yeah. And like you said, if if he
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didn't fall, After Anakin did, when he had a period of kind of
25:12
a break from everything. Yeah.
25:18
Yeah, and like for bitterness to not just take ever.
25:22
Well him. Yeah, I would imagine.
25:26
There is a time where that would have happened and I do.
25:30
I do like, if I had written the Kenobi series, I would put that
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in there would be like a time of bitterness where he starts to
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like get very very dark mentally because that's what happens to
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you when you're isolated after trauma.
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And then like you have to work your way back.
25:49
So like I would love to see him. Suddenly pick up his lightsaber
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and go practice, cut Downs, like out.
25:54
That's a good at that. The desert to like find himself
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again to Center himself to yes. Bring him back to what he
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reconnect. Find that power.
26:03
Again you have to investigate the mental struggle that goes on
26:07
with Obi-Wan, after that happens because up until his time and
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Tatooine, he doesn't really have a moment to think about it.
26:14
It, he's rushed right off to the birth of Luke and Leia and then
26:17
like the plan unfolds and boom. They're out, you know, Yoda goes
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to Dagobah and Obi-Wan goes to Tatooine and bail Organa goes to
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Alderaan. It's like that's it, the
26:29
separation, the separating of the ways.
26:32
Yeah. And Oh my God.
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I can't imagine the personal struggle.
26:39
I hope it's not going to be a show.
26:41
That's just like monster of the week type thing.
26:43
I don't Venture every week, they can't know.
26:46
It's gonna be really disappointing, would be a missed
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opportunity, and not only that. But Ewan, McGregor is so good at
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bringing emotion. They would be wasting his
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talents if they, if they make it an action-based show, I'm sure
26:59
there will be action but it has to tie into his purpose there.
27:05
and so in the sizzle reel, they mentioned Obi-Wan and Anakin
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well Vader, take a swing at each other and I don't think it's
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literal. I don't think it's literal I
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don't think it's going to be another fight.
27:18
I think people are misinterpreting it, this is my
27:22
opinion but I don't think that we're going to see another duel
27:28
between them maybe but I think it's going to be more imagined.
27:33
I think it's going to be Maybe he replays it in his mind or he
27:38
has nightmares of facing Vader. I think it's gonna that's how I
27:43
interpret them, taking a swing at each other.
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I don't know that they're ever going to Vader's not going back
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to Tatooine, okay? So it would involve Obi-Wan
27:52
leaving Tatooine in my opinion. And how's he going to leave why?
27:56
I mean, well, they made it look like he would was that.
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I don't know. They had like they had concept
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art of Cities, it look like maybe Coruscant, I don't know.
28:08
But Vader, even was literally hovering in a ship above
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Tatooine in A New Hope and didn't go to no, he'll know, he
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sent, he sent other people down there was like I'm not touching
28:19
that fucking Saint. No, listen, he's done the one.
28:23
Good thing that came out of him. Turning into Vader, is he?
28:25
No longer had to go back to that fucking planet again because
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he's like, you know what? Perfect, excuse, I don't have to
28:30
go back, the sand will get in my mask and fuck up my breathing.
28:34
So You know, I hope that's the real reason.
28:40
That's my reason for he used that suit as an excuse when it
28:44
fit him, okay? When it suited him, no pun
28:47
intended. Like you know what?
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The should sand doesn't mix with my my breather and I'm going to
28:53
be reading, apparatus is at risk.
28:56
Send somebody else. That's my imagined but honestly,
29:03
I don't know. I don't, I don't know why
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there's a lot of potential there but to bring it back around to
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Sith Obi-Wan, I think we're going to see him come real close
29:15
to like giving in to some of those emotions.
29:17
And maybe it's more, it will actually be therapeutic for him.
29:20
Sometimes you got to let it out in order for you to start
29:23
rebuilding. And so if he I'm sure Obi-Wan
29:27
will even do that properly. You know.
29:30
Have a good cry. Maybe talk to my bond.
29:34
They wouldn't let anyone cry. And Clone Wars until Ahsoka, had
29:38
one tear, right? And then the season seven,
29:42
people cried like, Rex was crying inside his helmet.
29:46
But good observation. Yeah, they were very strict,
29:49
very strict about that. Filoni even said so and one of
29:52
the oh no doubt, he's a genius. Yeah.
29:55
It was a very deliberate choice. Yeah, I mean, oh God there's so
30:01
many good things that could come from the Kenobi show like he
30:05
could be having that existential that existential fear of like
30:10
will I become the thing? I most feared thing.
30:13
I despise the most and you can have nightmares about it where
30:18
so many different scenarios play out.
30:21
I think there's gonna be a lot of nightmares.
30:23
I hope there's a lot of nightmares because I hope so,
30:25
too, because his subconscious would be going insane.
30:28
Yeah. That time.
30:28
Yes, it would be trying to organize and filter a lot of
30:32
trauma. Yes.
30:33
And you would be having a lot of nightmares.
30:36
We're doing a lot of theorizing, but that's what we do here.
30:40
Yeah, it's a. What if I am?
30:41
So what we're all about? Give me all the trauma and the
30:45
pain. Give me, give me dark op1, or
30:48
give me death. Join us next week, guys, for a
30:58
really Really, really overdo this episode.
31:02
Honestly, we're going to talk about Sam Witwer, the voice of
31:05
Darth Maul, amazing talent, so talented.
31:09
I mean, we'll save it all for next week, but damn so good.
31:15
We'll talk about his Star Wars, his plethora of Star Wars
31:19
information. But also he's a physical like on
31:23
Screen Actor as well, who's in? He's so good at that as well.
31:26
So it'll be a fun. Episode?
31:29
Where we praise the one and only Sam Witwer.
31:33
We sing the Praises of one, mr. Sam Witwer.
31:39
So last week, we talked about Han Solo, our favorite Rogue,
31:45
yes, our scoundrel and we asked our listeners what their
31:49
favorite Han Solo moment was and we got a really great response
31:53
from our listener. Ellen said another great podcast
31:57
episode this week. Best hon moment for me is
32:00
definitely situation normal. Oh, absolutely.
32:04
Without a doubt. Amazing moment.
32:06
Yes, makes me laugh every single time.
32:09
But tied for first place is the whole scene where he and Leia's
32:12
smooch in Empire Strikes Back. I don't know why but I find it
32:15
so funny and cute. When she says she happens to
32:19
like nice men. Yes, yes she holds out right
32:23
until the very end. She doesn't she is stubborn
32:25
right up until the very breath that is taken from her in that.
32:29
In that kiss. Yes, I love it.
32:31
She also says, like, who is she even talking about?
32:34
She doesn't have any friends besides Han and Luke.
32:37
That's true. I mean, she's really trying and
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that moment to resist. Yeah.
32:44
And also is that the first time he actually calls her layout,
32:47
which I was like, is it? It might be?
32:50
Yeah. Cause she said, would you,
32:51
please stop calling me that and he says, sure Leia like, it's
32:55
super awkward from just to hit but I think that's a really good
32:58
point. That is, I'd have to look, but I
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think it's, I think good point Ellen, so that's it.
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That's a great scene. I love this scene once again,
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