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Sound Off 963 - Ronda Rousey COMEDY On Netflix, Mick Foley AEW Rumors And SNME Predictions! · Solomonster Sounds Off

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  Speaker 1: It's business time, baby. You are listening to Solo Monster
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  Speaker 1: Sounds Off. I love you so, mama, monster dude, I
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  Speaker 1: want your soul a woman.
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  Speaker 2: You got grown ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Come over here, het me, is that Pet Patterson you
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  Speaker 1: have legs?
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  Speaker 2: Week I was ninety nine percent positive it was just
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  Speaker 2: chessed up. Now I have been begging him for a
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  Speaker 2: job on every every platform I can, and I would
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  Speaker 2: have know the reason why he won't part me.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the episode of nine sixty three of the
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  Speaker 1: Solo Monster Sounds Off for Sunday, May seventeenth, twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: I am the Solemn Monster, and this podcast has already
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  Speaker 1: gone longer than last night's fight on Netflix between Ronda
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  Speaker 1: Rousey and Gita Carano, with a combined twenty seven years
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  Speaker 1: out of the cage for both women, ten for Ronda,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen for Gina seven ten years out of the game.
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  Speaker 1: It only took seventeen seconds for Ronda to submit her
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  Speaker 1: with an armbar. And I don't know what people expected
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  Speaker 1: out of this from two women who have not fought
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  Speaker 1: in so long. Gina was not winning that fight regardless.
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  Speaker 1: It went exactly the way that it was always going
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  Speaker 1: to go. Like, at least if you already have Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: it was part of your existing subscription. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: it was a pay per view a costa fifty bucks
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  Speaker 1: or one hundred bucks to watch this stuff. They both
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  Speaker 1: got paid. They made their money. Ronda got two million
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  Speaker 1: dollars out of it that we know of, Gina got
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  Speaker 1: a million, and that's before bonuses and all that jazz.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they very likely got paid a lot more
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  Speaker 1: than that. Ronda even said after at the scrum that
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  Speaker 1: she was compensated not just for her fighting services, and
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  Speaker 1: she and her husband are now going to go how
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  Speaker 1: shopping in Hawaii. They got paid. Really, they got paid
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  Speaker 1: to promote the fight more so than to actually fight.
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  Speaker 1: That thing was never getting out of the first round.
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  Speaker 1: The money they got paid was to attach their names
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  Speaker 1: to this thing so that Netflix could try to blow
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  Speaker 1: it up into something big and Jake Paul could try
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  Speaker 1: to get something started with this new promotion of his.
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  Speaker 1: And so they did their job right, minimal damage, all smiles.
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  Speaker 1: When it was over, Get in, get out, and now
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  Speaker 1: Ronda gets to go home and make more babies, and Gina,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what her plans are. She probably was
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  Speaker 1: just happy to be out doing anything at all. They
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  Speaker 1: got out of it what they wanted. Now the MVP
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  Speaker 1: Promotions turns into a viable competitor to UFC. They can say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Ronda Rousey and Gina Carno, they helped get them there,
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  Speaker 1: and if not, who cares? They got their money. All
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  Speaker 1: I could do was laugh when it was over right,
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  Speaker 1: grand opening, grand closing. But I do love the pettiness
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  Speaker 1: of Dana White. It reminds me of WWF and WCW
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  Speaker 1: or wwenaw. He waited until last night of all nights,
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  Speaker 1: because UFC had their own show at just the right
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  Speaker 1: moment to drop the announcement that Connor mcgre is returning
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  Speaker 1: to the octagon for the first time in five years,
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  Speaker 1: just to try to steal their thunder away from them.
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  Speaker 1: But the rest of the show, I checked out bits
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  Speaker 1: and pieces. I was kind of in and out with it.
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  Speaker 1: I was, you know, preparing my notes and getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for the sound off today, and I wanted to see
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  Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the n Adaz fight. God, it's
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  Speaker 1: been I don't know how long it's been since I've
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  Speaker 1: seen a Nate Daz fight. Blood everywhere, it looked like
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  Speaker 1: something out of a fucking horror movie. And yeah again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's a lot slower than I remember him being.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if this is sustainable. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll leave it to the fight fans. You saw the
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  Speaker 1: entire card from top to bottom. To be the judge,
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  Speaker 1: what I saw was like, it was nothing impressive. I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine that this is going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: be a regular thing. Maybe in every now and then thing,
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  Speaker 1: or you come up with a freak show fight or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I don't think that this is something
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  Speaker 1: UFC needs to be terribly you know, concerned with right now.
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  Speaker 1: But for one night, I'm sure they all made a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money. If Netflix thinks that it's worth pursuing
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  Speaker 1: another event, then they'll do another event. And if they
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  Speaker 1: say no, then that may be it, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: it was all about the main event. And if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have an attraction, a big attraction like that for
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  Speaker 1: the main event, you're just not going to be able
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  Speaker 1: I think, to pull in the number of people. Then
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  Speaker 1: Netflix would probably be interested. And of course Ronda Rousey's comeback,
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  Speaker 1: Gina Carano's comeback, they were interested in being a part
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  Speaker 1: of that if you don't have that next time you know,
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  Speaker 1: is Netflix gonna want to really full time get into
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  Speaker 1: the MMA business. I guess it depends on the success
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  Speaker 1: of this show. We'll find out, but I just I
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  Speaker 1: find that hard to believe. But on a happier note,
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  Speaker 1: I went to go see the movie Obsession on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and holy smokes, I was not expecting that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what I was expecting that. I was not expecting that.
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  Speaker 1: It is the best movie that I have seen all year,
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  Speaker 1: outside of The Batman, which doesn't count because that didn't
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  Speaker 1: come out this year. It's just that my dumbass waited
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  Speaker 1: four years too long to watch it. But this was
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  Speaker 1: just tremendous. It's not often that I see a movie
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  Speaker 1: that bothers me the way that this one did. It's
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  Speaker 1: just unnerving all the way through. Even when I left
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  Speaker 1: the theater, I was still like thoroughly freaked out by
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  Speaker 1: what I had just seen. Definitely had some get out
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  Speaker 1: vibes from this one. When you see it, you'll know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But that lead actress, Indian Navaretti
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  Speaker 1: is her name, She's a revelation. She was so so
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  Speaker 1: good in this one of the best performances I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen in a horror movie, and I've never seen this
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  Speaker 1: girl in anything before this. I guess she was on
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  Speaker 1: the CW. I don't know if it's still on the
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  Speaker 1: air or not, but they had a show Superman and Lois.
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  Speaker 1: I guess she was on there, but I had never
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  Speaker 1: heard of her before, and now I'm upset. Well I mean,
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  Speaker 1: no pun intended, but I'm obsessed. There's so much I
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  Speaker 1: would love to say about this, because I know there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of discourse around some of
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  Speaker 1: the characters, but no spoilers here. If you are a
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  Speaker 1: horror fan, you should absolutely go see this movie. I
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  Speaker 1: give it the full five stars. It's a great month
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  Speaker 1: for horror. Between this Passenger is coming out this week
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  Speaker 1: and may see that. I don't know if I'll have time,
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  Speaker 1: though that one may be one to stream the back
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  Speaker 1: rooms next week. I'll definitely be seeing that one in
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  Speaker 1: may be the scariest of all. You know, I thought
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  Speaker 1: is at the NYC Arena in Jamaica, Queens with some
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  Speaker 1: big matches. The Hardys will be back to defend their
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  Speaker 1: Hog Tag Team titles, but also just signed Amazing Red
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  Speaker 1: steps into the ring for the first time ever, one
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  Speaker 1: on one with the reigning aew TNT champion the Jet
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Knight. That's gonna be a fun one to call,
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  Speaker 1: and the HOG Women's Champion, Shatzi defends against one half
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  Speaker 1: of the AW Women's Tag Team Champions and someone that
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  Speaker 1: we have been trying to get back at Hog for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, Leana Cross. The last time that she
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  Speaker 1: was in she actually wrestled Meghan Bain, who she is
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  Speaker 1: now tagging with as the tag team champions in AAW.
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  Speaker 1: But Charles Mason is going to be an action Zilla
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  Speaker 1: Fought two and more more matches to be announced this week.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe we are adding more seeding. I know
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  Speaker 1: the first four roles Rose are completely sold out. Stage
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  Speaker 1: seating is also sold out, but general admission is still
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  Speaker 1: available if you want to attend the event live. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: you can stream the event on Triller TV Plus. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: I get to see some of you there. Let's just
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: go into I'm not even gonna list out what I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about this week. There's so many different things. Let's
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: just go into it. Let's talk about the John Cena Classic,
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  Speaker 1: just very briefly. We don't have a lot of new
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: information about this, but we do have some new stuff
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  Speaker 1: on the upcoming John Cena Classic comes per Wrestle Votes
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  Speaker 1: Radio on Fight Full Select. It dropped on Thursday. While
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  Speaker 1: no date or venue is currently planned for the show,
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  Speaker 1: which is I mean, that's just wild that you would
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  Speaker 1: have him go out there live on one of your
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  Speaker 1: plees and actually announce this thing and they have no date,
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  Speaker 1: they have no location, The details are still not fully
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  Speaker 1: fleshed out. It's almost like they went into this announcement
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  Speaker 1: half cocked. But even though there's no date in location,
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  Speaker 1: one source reportedly said holding the event in early December
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  Speaker 1: would make logistical sense for WWE's schedule and would also
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  Speaker 1: coincide with the one year anniversary of seeing his final
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  Speaker 1: match against Gunther on Saturday Night's main event, and the
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  Speaker 1: report also notes that a source at Netflix expressed interest
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  Speaker 1: in the event streaming on its platform. Now John Ceno
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  Speaker 1: was interviewed by CBS Sports and Shack Wrestling, and he
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  Speaker 1: had this to say about the event. In a business
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  Speaker 1: where everybody says every story's been told before, I want
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  Speaker 1: to swing for something new. Of Course, I believe in
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  Speaker 1: sports entertainment meritocracy, and I believe that WWE is an
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  Speaker 1: excellent meritocracy. Now, every statement I say, there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be multiple sides to that. People will have an opinion
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  Speaker 1: that agrees, people will have an opinion that disagrees, there
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  Speaker 1: might be apathy, and there might be some in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: So when I come up with an event that I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I want to do what we did on Saturday Night's
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  Speaker 1: main event because I love the environment around my retirement match.
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  Speaker 1: I was a small piece of that night. The larger
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  Speaker 1: scope and in the media going into it was oh man,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: this is kind of a cool thing. Yes, the night
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  Speaker 1: could be all about John, but in essence, we're getting
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  Speaker 1: to see John do his thing. But somebody's got to
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  Speaker 1: earn the right to face John. So that's cool. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to earn the respect to do it. And at
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: the same time, we're going to get to see some
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: new faces go against our familiar Superstars. I was there
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  Speaker 1: in the arena. The night rocked. It was great, the
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  Speaker 1: crowd was fantastic. Sure, the retirement match had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of buzz behind it, but they were on their feet
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  Speaker 1: for all the matches. So my brain started working. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we should do something like this. I guess to sum
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: it up in a sentence, I know I dropped a
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: lot of information in Backlash. I think to sum it
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  Speaker 1: up in a sentence, it could be a version of
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  Speaker 1: WWE's All Star Game. It's a night of exhibitions, so
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: we really don't have to build any long lead stories
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  Speaker 1: going into it. It is the current stars competing with
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  Speaker 1: and that means they might be paired with who knows
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: the bracketology is they could be paired with. They could
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: be up against the future of the company, superstars from NXT.
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  Speaker 1: This takes me back to two thousand and two when
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: we had this young class in OVW. Brock was on
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  Speaker 1: a path of his own, for sure, but I was
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: sitting in OVW going how am I ever going to
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  Speaker 1: guys like Caine, Triple H, the Undertaker, Sean Michaels, Steve
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  Speaker 1: Austin and the Rock and it's like, man, I'm never
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  Speaker 1: gonna get a chance. I felt like that sometimes. I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: know how these NXT talents might feel. They've been down
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  Speaker 1: there for a year, two years, three years. When am
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  Speaker 1: I going to get my chance? Well for one night
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  Speaker 1: if you can come up, drop your business cards, see
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  Speaker 1: what happened, show the world what you have, and on
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  Speaker 1: top of it, if you steal the show and maybe
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  Speaker 1: you're not lucky enough to get the one, two, three
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  Speaker 1: and get your hand raised, every participant qualifies for kind
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  Speaker 1: of an all star vote, so you could be recognized
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  Speaker 1: as the night's champion. Now I've heard the perspective of
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  Speaker 1: wins and losses don't matter. That's a very valid point
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  Speaker 1: listening to feedback. We've got to figure out the fan votes.
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  Speaker 1: There's still a lot to be done. But you can
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  Speaker 1: vote for the winners. You just can also vote for everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a first time. So even he admits that
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  Speaker 1: they have not fully fleshed out the fan voting aspect,
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  Speaker 1: that maybe it's imperfect. Yeah, I would say so. I
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  Speaker 1: think one way maybe to address all of the backlash
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  Speaker 1: against the idea of somebody becoming champion strictly by fan vote,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even if they lost their match, would be
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  Speaker 1: to have fan voting independent of the outcome. Like I
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  Speaker 1: understand them wanting to have the fans interact and the
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  Speaker 1: fans have their voices be heard and have fan voting,
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  Speaker 1: and that's fine, but maybe treat it like an MVP award,
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  Speaker 1: right since he's out there comparing it to the All
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  Speaker 1: Star Game, Like, let the matches decide who the winner is,
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  Speaker 1: who the champion is, and let the fans vote on
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  Speaker 1: their overall favorites, right, their favorite wrestler, their favorite match
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  Speaker 1: of the night, and maybe it ends up being the
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  Speaker 1: same person who wins the entire thing. But if not,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: you have your John Cena Classic winner. You're John seen
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  Speaker 1: a Classic Champion, and you have the person that the
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  Speaker 1: fans voted as their favorite. Because that's all it is.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It's a popularity contest. And if it ends up being
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: two different people, they could even use that potentially to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: ignite a feud between the two, right, maybe the champion
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: grows jealous of the MVP for winning the fan vote
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and stealing some of their thunder away from them. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: think there are ways to make this work, but they're
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gonna have to make some changes. We don't even know
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: if there are gonna be dual champions, like one for
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the men, one for the women, because then this idea
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't work. They're not doing an intergender feud coming out
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: of this thing. But that's what I mean, Like, there's
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: so much we still don't know, and they don't know yet.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds like one big co ed competition with men's matches
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and women's matches. There's no tournament and the overall winner
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: is just gonna get voted on by the fans and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's what it sounds like. You know, does
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that mean main roster to lence are not eligible for
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the fan voting. We don't know. I mean that probably
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be fair, but we don't know. This is something
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: that's going to be a work in progress, probably right
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: up until the end of the year. Former presidential candidate
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Andrew Yang responded to Kevin Nash, who recently went on
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: his click This podcast and in light of the reports
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of TKO asking WWE talents to take pay cuts, suggested
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that the wrestlers should look into joining the sag Aftra union.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: SAG is the Screen Actors Guild. This is what Nash said.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: This could be one of those times where this whole
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: ten ninety nine independent contractor thing finally just you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it's not bring the folders out, bring them all out.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. You can't play endeavor
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: at the top with the three hundred percent increases and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: ten ninety nine the doc workers. If they're going to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: play by those rules, let the boys play by the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: same rules. Go through the Screen Actors Guild. They'll be
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: more than happy to take their cut of your money.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It won't be fifty percent, but it'll change the ballgame.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Take one of the programs that's written down and you
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: tell me that program isn't more heavily written and more
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: produced than Curb Your Enthusiasm was when all those actors
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: got SAG paid. He he's not wrong about that. You know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the WWE shows are probably more heavily produced than scripted
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: when it comes to like promos and stuff, than certain
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: TV shows like Curb Your Enthusiasm. You mentioned that that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was one of my favorite shows, and much of that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: show was ad libbed, So he's not wrong in that regard. Now,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: after he saw a cultahlic post a tweet with Nash's comments.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Andrew Yang responded. He quote tweeted saying Nash is right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: WWE wrestlers participate in highly rated scripted programming every week.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: They should be sag AFTRA members already. Now, if you remember,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yang ran for president in twenty twenty, then he dropped
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: his bid and he made overtures about becoming Joe Biden's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Secretary of Labor, and he didn't get the position. He
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: was talking about it as if, yeah, well, if I've
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: become the Secretary of Labor, I'm going to do this
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to do that. And meanwhile, he didn't
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: get the position, but he said if he did, or
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: even if he didn't, he would have the ear of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the person who did, and he would take the fight
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to Vince McMahon over the independent contractor classification and the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: right of the wrestlers to form a union. This was
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: after Zelina Vega was fired by WWE the first time,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: remember the whole Twitch fiasco restricting talents from working for
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: third parties. It was after that whole thing. So he
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: talked a big talk, did Andrew Yang. And when the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: presidential bid didn't work out for him, he ran for
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: mayor here in New York and that didn't end well
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: for him either. He's not wrong what he calls the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: independent contractor stuff a farce, because it is. But for
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: all of his bluster about not letting the issue go,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this gosolutely, nothing came of it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I guess he wasn't able to get that person's ear
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: after all. But it is a valid issue, right. It
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: comes down to the talent themselves. I've always said this.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: There simply are not enough of them willing to stand
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: up and advocate for something like this because they're still
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: being paid well and without any big names behind it,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: it would never work. Part of me feels like today
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: in the TKO era, even if you had this mass
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: walkout of talent, they would just replace the wrestlers with
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: D list celebrities and influencers and they would just go
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: on like nothing ever happened. But Nash's idea is they're
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: actors and therefore they should be covered under sag aftra
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: with a union like that, right, there's like a minimum
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: threshold for compensation for lower level talents. It's not like
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you don't have your A list actors who get paid
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars above and beyond what you know the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: lower level actors would get paid. In WWE, you have
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: your top stars who get paid millions. And last I heard,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the minimum salary for a main roster talent on TV
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: was three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. So
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: if you're on raw, whether it's Tozawa or soul Ruka
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: or whoever, that would be the minimum that those people
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: would be making today. Three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Now,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: maybe it's different now that TKO is asking people to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: take pay cuts, but that's what it was before anyway. Now,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Jesse Ventura, who has told the story of trying to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: get the Boys to unionize back in eighty six before
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Hogan ratted him out when he sat down with Chris
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Van Vliet, he pointed out, and I wish I could
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: find the clip, but he talked about how the union
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: might be leery of taking on wrestlers out of fear
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that they would be bankrupted by their medical bills. Now,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that would work, but I don't
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: think it would be as clean as Kevin Nash believes
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it would be. Just to hear him talking about it like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, they'll take you. Yeah, I don't know.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: The reality is, if this was something the talent felt
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: they needed, or if this was something the talent really wanted,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they had plenty of opportunities over the decades to try
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to make something happen, and they never did, right, They
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: had plenty of opportunities to do something about it. And
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the fact that it hasn't happened yet and we're still
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: talking about this in twenty twenty six, to me, it
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: just tells you everything you need to know. So it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a nice idea in theory, but it's just not practical
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to think that it's actually ever going to happen. Is
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it crazy that the talent, outside of the ones who
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: could afford to pay for their own tour bus, are
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: still on the hook for most of their own road expenses? Yes?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Is it crazy they have to pay for their own
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: health insurance the full thing. Yes. Is it crazy that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they're considered independent contractors even though they're bound by this
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: exclusive contract to one organization. They're not allowed to work
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: for any other organization, And they're told when to be
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: where they need to be at what time and where this,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: or do this, or do that or whatever specifics they
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: tell these people. Yes, yes, there isn't much about the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: way they're treated that screams independent. You'll never convince me
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: that this entire classification, this entire thing is in a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: shan It is, it's always been. WWE is running an
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: increased house shows schedule this summer, after largely phasing them
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: out domestically in the last few years. Ten new shows
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: have been added for July and August. Brand that is
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: part of the company's twenty twenty six summer tour, So
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: pay attention if you live in any of these areas.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: July eleventh, summer tour at the Pan American Center in
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Las Cruces, New Mexico. July twelfth, The Pit in Albertquerque,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: New Mexico, July sixteenth, The PPL Center in Allentown, Pennsylvania,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: July twenty fifth, The Adventist Health Arena in Stockton, California,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: July twenty sixth, The Dignity Health Arena in Bakersfield, California,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: July thirtieth, The Bank of Springfield Center in Springfield, Illinois.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: August sixth. That's a Thursday at Eagle Bank Arena in Fairfax, Virginia,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: August thirteenth the the SNHU Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: August twenty ninth the End Market Arena in Savannah, Georgia,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and August thirtieth at the North Charleston Coliseum in Charleston,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: South Carolina. They're advertising a mix of talent from raw
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: and SmackDown for these shows. Brian Alvarez is reporting that
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the idea is tickets for these shows will be more
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: affordable than your typical WWE show, much more affordable. Even
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: what does much more affordable look like the TKL. We'll
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: find out because tickets are going on sale this Wednesday,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: so we'll get a better sense of it at that point. Now.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Sammy Zain told the Huge Pop podcast, for which former
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: WWE referee Jimmy Corderis is a co host, that he
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: believes wrestling on house shows is crucial for the younger talent,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: but there should be a fine line for the volume
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of those events. He said, well, even this, like anything else,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: there's polarizing views on all of it, right, but I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: can say, no matter what you think or I think,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that the best way to get good
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: at anything is to do do it over and over again.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: So I think when you're starting to look at the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: stars of the future, you're looking at Trick Williams, You're
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: looking at Javon Evans, bron Breaker Obafemi and guys like this.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: A lot of these guys just simply don't have a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: lot of reps under their belt, and they're doing phenomenal
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: all things considered. So I just think that there's no
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: disputing the idea that if they get a few more reps,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: especially live events, where really that's like the true performance.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: That's really what this business is. It's you in a ring,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a live house, not worried about the constraints of television
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: time and hitting break spots and commercials, and you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it's really just the art form at kind of its
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: most naked and truthful form. So I think it's in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: valuable experience for those guys. I think it's a good
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: thing to see some returning. For sure. I'm not going
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to get into the business side of it. As far
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: as you know, is it worth it from a profitability standpoint?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I enjoy them, but I'll also say
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that there's two separate generations going at the same time. Here.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: You have guys like Roman or Seth or myself, or
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Punk or Drew McIntyre, Kevin Owens, Finn balor all these
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: guys that are mainstays who are on the later side
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of our careers and have already put in twenty years.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So doing a bunch of live events is a little
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: harder on our bodies. So I kind of see the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: merit in, well, these are a lot of your top stars,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and you want to not run them into the road
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: while you have them. But I also see the merit in, well,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: these guys, the Javans and the bron Breakers and the Obas,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: they need to get there too. So I do think
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: there's definitely this fine line of the volume of live events,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: because I don't know if you want to keep a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: lot of the guys that are current TV stars or
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in their later years, if you want to keep them
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: healthy for the next three, four or five years the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: way it was before with like one hundred and sixty
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: live events might be a little much. Understanding the different
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: town to town responses and just getting a feel for
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the audience, I think that's crucial for these guys. So
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I do think having some of these live events around
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: is a great thing, but the volume I think there's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a middle ground, and he is absolutely one hundred percent right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I never understood the all or nothing approach, like you
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: either send these guys and gals out there on the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: road for two hundred plus days a year and you
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: do a million shows, or you don't do any live
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: events at all, right outside of the international tours. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: don't understand that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: If they were money losers before, that doesn't mean that
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they didn't still have value to the talent. There could
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: be value in something beyond just the economics of it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You know, you kind of look at them as an investment.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It's an investment in your talent. It's an investment in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: your future. So you run fewer of them to cut
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: your losses, and you prop up the other shows to
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: make them feel more special. But there needs to be
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a middle ground. Sammy's Ain't is not the only one
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to advocate publicly for house shows. Cody Rhades is the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: WWE champion. I mean, he's been vocal about them, you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: feeling like they're important to help wrestlers get their reps
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in to create kind of like a camaraderie in the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: locker room. Randy Orton has talked about their importance when
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: it comes to building chemistry with the people that you're
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: working with, so that when you work together on TV
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: or on a pl you know each other inside out
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: already because you've already worked on the house shows. Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I've used the example before of Maxine Duprix as someone
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: who was I like how my voice went up, just
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: just like it used to Duprix. But like Maxine Duprix
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: is someone who she was called up to the main
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: roster far too soon. She wasn't ready clearly right. Not
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: if their plan was to put her in the ring.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: They were going to use her exclusively as a manager
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: or of Valet, that's fine. But if they were actually
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: going to have her get in the ring and wrestle,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: they called her up way too quickly. It wasn't fair
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to her. It wasn't fair to the people that you
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: put her in the ring with. Some people sink, some
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: people swim when you throw them into the deep end
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of the pool. But more people would swim if they
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: just had a little more time to get those reps in.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: You know, you look at aw it's a different model,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: but it's not radically different. Really. If you're someone who
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: shows up to TV and you rarely get used and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you're not working independent shows. You may only work once
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a week. That's if Tony even uses you on Dynamiter Collision.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing in WWE right now. Maybe you'll
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: work once a week twice a week and that's it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: if you're booked. But without house shows, you're not working
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: in aw You can work outside events so long as
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: they approve it, but not everybody wants to, right or
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: they charge too much and people don't want to meet
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: them at their rate, they price themselves out. But at
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: least the option is there. In WWE right now, they
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: could always throw you in triple A, but they're not
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: going to do that with everybody, so you need to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: find that happy medium. As far as the volume of shows,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and for the fans, if you've never been to a
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: house show, then you probably just don't have any concept
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of this. It's probably like a foreign concept to you.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But if you've ever been to a house show, you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: know how fun they can be. Right, they're generally more
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: enjoyable than the TV shows because you don't have all
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the ad breaks in the dead space in between segments
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and these long boring promos because there are very few
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: people in wrestling right now who I would call a
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: money promo. Very few, very very few on the house shows.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're not expecting a title change or a major angle,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: but how much of that do we even get on
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: TV these days? At least you get big matches with
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: some big names. So I think finding a happy medium
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: is exactly what they need to be doing. I think
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it's great for the fans, and I think it would
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: be great for the talent that could use the added exposure.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Last week I mentioned former CMLL and Triple A star
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Quatrero was found guilty of domestic violence and attempted femicide
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: against his former girlfriend WWE star Stephanie Viquerre after an
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: incident in March of twenty twenty three for which he
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: was arrested. He tried to kill this woman basically, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the domestic violence charge against him was escalated to attempted femicide,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: which is a very serious charge in Mexico. For that alone,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: he could have faced up to thirty years in prison.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Not only is he not getting thirty years, get a
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: load of this shit. He was sentenced this week to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: twelve years and eight months in prison, and since he
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: already served two of those years awaiting trial. That means
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: he now has ten years and eight months left to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: serve and so it's not the max or anything like that,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: but still ten years in prison is nothing to sneeze at. Well,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it turns out he won't be serving any more time
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: behind bars, according to a report from Planeta Wrestling, As,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the Mexico City Prosecutor's office has confirmed that he will
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: be allowed to serve his sentence under house arrest. He
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: must remain under a restraining order that bans him from
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: approaching the care or appearing at any wrestling events where
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: she is booked, which, from the sound of it, house
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: arrest doesn't mean. That doesn't mean what you think it means.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: It sounds like there will be check ins with law
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: enforcement every few weeks and he may have to wear
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: an ankle monitor. I'm not sure about that stuff, but
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it sounds like he won't actually be confined to his
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: home for the next ten years and eight months. His
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: career is over. He won't be wrestling anywhere. He'll have
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to find work doing something else. But what a kick
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: in the teeth, you know, And here I thought the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Rajah Jackson sentence last week was crazy. But on International
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Women's Day in March, Vicaire shared this message on her
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: social media. She said, this Women's Day a huge hug
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to all women, especially those who like me, spoke up
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and reported despite fear and threat he is still free.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But I am still alive and I will keep fighting
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: for the truth and justice until the end. Yeah. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: mentioned before that Lahiedra, who still works for Triple A,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: was said at the time to have appealed to the
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: care not to go to the police after she was assaulted,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: basically to keep her mouth shut. And she wasn't the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: only one who put pressure on Stephanie not to say anything,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and she decided to speak up anyway, and she advocated
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: for herself instead of worrying about what other people told
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: her she should do. They were fucking cowards. She was not.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: But I can't imagine that she's happy about this. She
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: also may be back on RAW a lot sooner than expected,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: possibly as soon as tomorrow night, according to Mike Johnson,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a PW insider, who says some are expecting her to
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: be in Greensboro, North Carolina, tomorrow night, where RAW is
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: being held, which you know doesn't mean that she'll appear
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: on TV. But even if they get her back in
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the next few weeks, that's great news, especially since they
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: clearly they have no one on deck to challenge Live
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Morgan for the women's world title. The title scene right
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: now on Raw is completely dead. So they get Stephanie
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: back a lot sooner than expected, that would be great news.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And speaking of dead Raw and SmackDown, this week boring television.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: SmackDown more than Raw. But when I say Raw was
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: better than SmackDown, it's like saying, well, the Marlins have
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a better record than the Mets. Yeah, they do, but
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: they still suck and the Mets are only like two
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: games behind them. We need cm punk back is what
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: we need. He was, by the way, he was at
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that show last night that the Rousey Krano fight. I
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: saw him, he was in the crowd, he was interviewed.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: But he has not been on WWE television since whatever
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: that first Raw was coming out of WrestleMania, and it
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: really hit me this week. The show has taken a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: nosedive without him there. And I don't even think he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: should be on Raw. I think he should be on
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: smack now. I think SmackDown could use him right now.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But they moved Gunther to SmackDown, and Jacob Fato has
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: seemingly been moved to Raw. SmackDown's also going back to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: two hours soon, so I don't know that they're going
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to want to move Punk over there now. Plus it's
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: pretty clear SmackDown is not a priority for WWE anymore.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you didn't already know this, I don't
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: see how you can watch the television over the last
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: several weeks and not realize this to be true. That
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: show is clearly not a priority for them. Raw is
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: there a show they don't give a shit about SmackDown.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's a nothing show. SmackDown is getting very close to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Rampage territory. Okay, what Rampage was to Dynamite is what
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: SmackDown is becoming to Raw. And I'm embellishing, but not
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: by much. But where Tony Kahan gave Collision to Punk,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: you know, for that to be his show, maybe WWE
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: can do the same with him on SmackDown. I don't know.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: EO Sky against Soul Ruka on Monday I thought was
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: good stuff. By the way, congrats to EO Sky. Before
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I went and started recording today's show, I saw her
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and Evil in their respective social media post. I guess
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they appeared on some sort of Japanese television show and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of show it was, but
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: they broke the news that they were recently married. Because
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: there's the footage and the photos of Evil and Eo
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Sky and just married and she's in her wedding dress,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and I'm like wow. I mean, there had been about
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: them being an item for many years, and there was
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: some talk about whether or not they were still together,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, whatever, it's their business. But I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: guess they have officially gone public and they are now
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: officially married. So congrats. Rear Ripley will be very jealous
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: about this. If I were Evil, I would keep eyes
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: in the back of my head. But Eo against Soul
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Ruka on Monday, that was good, Carmelo Hayes against Ricky
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Saints on Friday that was also solid. Gunther against Royce
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Keys in the main event on Friday that I enjoyed
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: for the most part. But it's not enough. It's not
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: enough to save these shows. The matches that we got
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: on Dynamite, for example, this week, infinitely better. If we
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: had one or two matches like that, maybe that would
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: help offset the other shit that we have to sit through.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: But the matches themselves they can't even measure up, and
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: so what we're left with are a lot of boring
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: segments and way too much comedy, especially on Fridays. I mean,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: think about this unsmacked alone. We have our Truth doing
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: comedy with Damian Priest, We have The Miz and Kit Wilson,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: who are basically a comedy duo. Dan Housen is still
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: doing his science experiments. Chelsea Green has played up for
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: comedy most of the time she was back on Friday.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Johnny Gargano is still laying catatonic on a crate months
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: of this shit with no end in sight, and then
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: if it's not the gingerbread Man, it'll be something else.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: This is all on the same show. It's like their
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: version of the Colgate Comedy Hour from the fifties, except
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: that had Abbott and Costello sketches, which are still more
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: entertaining than anything you'll see on SmackDown. But on Monday,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the show was built around an acknowledgment ceremony with Roman
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Reigns and Jacob fought to an entire show devoted to
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: someone acknowledging the other we're still doing this shit after
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: how many years now. Thankfully it wasn't too cheesy. They
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: actually just let Jacob go out there and kill a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: bunch of deals dudes, including Roman, which was great. They'll
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: have their rematch in Italy since Roman is being advertised
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for that show. They haven't announced it yet, but he
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: has advertised for Clash in Italy, so that's where we're
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: going to get the world title rematch and a WWE
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Championship match on the same show. So unlike Backlash, it
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: looks like both belts are going to be defended on
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: this next pl which one opens the show, which one
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: closes the show. I would say, if Gunther is going
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to beat Cody to win the WWE Championship, then they
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: have to close with that. But Roman Reigns is clearly
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the top champion in this company right now. He's the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: top star. He's the main character in this company right now,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: more than Cody. If there is no title changing hands,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: then you close with Roman Reigns. The only thing they've
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: announced for SmackDown so far this Friday is Tallatanga against
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Shinsky Nackamore, which I'm sure has you just absolutely giddy
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to tune in. But if that isn't enough excitement for
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: there's a Saturday Night's main event coming up this Saturday
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that I will not be live for. I have other plans.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about it on the sound Off next Sunday.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But let me run through the matches that we know
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: of so far, because this still feels very incomplete. Penta
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: defends his Intercontinental title against all ego Ethan Page, who
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: was undefeated since coming to Monday Night Raw. And I said,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you know, at the time, I said, Paige is going
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to win that ICEE title inside of six months, guaranteed.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: But this would be a hell of a lot quicker
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: than I imagined. But here we are, and I think that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: there's potential in this sort of uneasy alliance between him
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and Russev continuing on for a while, maybe with Russev
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: wanting Ethan to give him a title match and Ethan
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: keeps finding ways to avoid it and put it off.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: You know, the dynamic between Page and Russev is basically
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Ethan Page what they were doing with Ethan Page and
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Ricky Saints in NXT. I'm gonna say Ethan Page wins
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the Intercontinental championship. Right now, this is the main event
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: of the show. As things stand, this is your main
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: event unless they add something tomorrow night involving Fatu and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the USOS, maybe because I doubt very seriously, Roman Reigns
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: is going to be working Saturday Night's main event, But
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: as of this moment, this looks to be your main event.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I think they put the title Uneathan Page, and you
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm okay with that. I think Page is great.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of beating him yet. A
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Penta Ray Phoenix match for the title would have been
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But Phoenix is a dead character
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: on the show. He's going to be wrestling Laredo Kid,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I think for his championship in Triple A coming up.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He's not doing anything on the main roster. Plus, I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: think they've already announced the Luca Brothers are going to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: have a reunion for triple Mania, which is not until September,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: so Phoenix is going to be doing more there than
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: he is on Raw SmackDown. So I think if you're
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: doing this match, then you put the title Uneathan Page.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Rhea Ripley will team with Charlotte Flair and Alexa Blitz
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to take on Jade car Gill, Meechen and BFAB. This
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: should be a win for Jade and her crew. If
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the plan is to rematch her in Rhea for the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: championship the following weekend in Italy, which I assume it is,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: then Jade should win here and she should get the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: win by pinning Rhea Ripley. Not this bullshit where oh
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: she won, but she pinned Charlotte Flair. She pinned Alexa Bliss,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: which would be a cop out. By the way, that
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: promo segment with them on SmackDown. Ria wasn't there, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Jade came out with Meechen and BFAB. That segment was horrendous.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Let's talk more action and coming out of Clash in Italy.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's time to start building to Jade Cargill
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: against Charlotte Flair. They've teased this match enough times now
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: over these months. Maybe they want to do Jade against
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Alexa first, with Jade beating Alexa, and then they do
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Jade against Charlotte at Summer Slam, because that's a big
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: enough match for SummerSlam. I know I'm gonna get an
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: angry email now from you know who, But this is
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: what I can see them doing if the idea is
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: ultimately to go with Jade and Charlotte. Soon she runs
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: through Alexa first, and then we get the Jade and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Charlotte match. The Vision logan Paul and Austin Theory defend
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: their World tag team titles against the Street Profits Seth
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Rollins and montes Ford. They don't like each other, Seth
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Rollins and montes Ford had been beefing lately. I don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen on Raw Tomorrow night, but I
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: do feel like Rollins is gonna end up playing a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: role in this match, sticking his nose where it doesn't belong,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna splinter off with a singles match soon
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: between Seth Rollins and montese Ford, and I'm here for it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I'm here for more montes Ford singles action. But no
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: way does the Vision lose those titles here. And it
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: may not mean anything here, but Maxine Duprix has been
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: spotted multiple times now on television with the Vision like
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: in the background. She was sitting in the passenger seat
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of their suv on Monday when they were leaving the show.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: She could always get involved here if the plan is
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: for her to maybe join the Vision is their new valet,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: but it's more like that Rollins gets involved. So I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: have Logan Paul and Austin Theory retaining, and Page and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Brie Bella are going to be defending their women's tag
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: team titles, provided they can get past the judgment day
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night against Naya Jacks and Lash Legend. It was brief,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: but they did mention this in a backstage segment on Friday,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that they would be challenging for the belts on this show.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I don't care to see it, but I don't think
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: they're taking those titles off Page and Brie until Nicki
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: is ready to come back. That's the card they're missing
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: one big match. Otherwise, that card looks about right for
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a Saturday Night's main event. Not quite a plee, but
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit better than your standard Raw or SmackDown
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: with a few title defenses on the show. John Alba
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: had this scoop on Sports Illustrated this week that aw
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: could be in pursuit of WWE Hall of Famer Mick Foley.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: The story says that Foley has worked for nearly every
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: major company in wrestling across the globe, but he has
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: not yet stepped foot inside an AW ring, and as
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he is set to let his WWE Legends deal expire
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: next month, sources indicate to the Takedown on SI that
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: there is a chance he could be AW bound. Multiple
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: sources tell the Takedown that AW has expressed real interest
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: in working with Foley this year, although the capacity of
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: which is not known. Was also not certain whether or
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: not the organization would be interested in signing the sixty
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: year old, or if it would simply be for an appearance.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: AW is currently building towards a Double or Nothing, which
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: will be held in Flushing, New York, about an hour
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: from where Fully grew up on Long Island. Another Long
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Island product, MJF, will be in the main event. One
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: source indicated that while they did not have any direct
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: knowledge of Folly coming in for the show at this time,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: they would not be surprised if there was a push
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to use him on it if a deal could get done.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: The extent of any conversation between the parties beyond initial
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: inquiry is also unknown. Though not directly under WWE contract,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the last few years, Foley has been under Legends deal.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: The Hall of Famer has been outspoken about President Donald
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Trump in the past and openly criticized WWE and TKO's
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: dealings with the current administration following Trump's comments about the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: death of actor Rob Reiner. In doing so, he said
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: he planned to let his Legends deal expire this June.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: WWE Legends contracts do not prevent talent from working for
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: other companies directly, but they do have some restrictions on royalties, merchandising,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: likeness use, and other intellectual property related matters. If there's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: any chance of him violating his deal, I doubt he's
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: going to stir up that hornet's nest a week out,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: let's say, or whatever two weeks out from it expiring.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So either the contract allows for him to show up
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in aw if he wants, or it doesn't and he
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: ain't going to be at the pay per view next weekend. Now,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: if Tony Kahn wanted to bring in Mick Foley for
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: an appearance, that's cool. You know, he should absolutely not
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: be in the ring doing a match. I know he's
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: done some physical spots at independent shows. He just made
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: a cameo in the Sandman's retirement match against The Invisible Man.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: He actually delivered a double arm DDT. He took a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: hard bump on his hip and got right back up.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I was surprised to see that. I know he wanted
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to wrestle one last match. He wanted to do a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: death match for his sixtieth birthday. So he had set
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: this weight loss goal. He was going to lose a
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: bunch of weight, like one hundred pounds, and for his
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: sixtieth birthday, he was going to have one last death match.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: And he thought better of it after he concussed himself.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: He was doing some light stuff in the ring. He
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't even doing anything bit major or big. He didn't
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: even realize he had suffered at concussion until after the fact,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: So at that point he wisely called that match off.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: But if he was part of an angle of some kind,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: then he took a bump. I mean, I'm sure he
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: could do it. He probably shouldn't, but he could, or
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: they could have him do something else. So the question becomes,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: what would that be. I don't see him coming in
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: as a manager or anything like that, special referee for
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a match. Sure that could work him and MJF, you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: cutting dueling promos on each other. That could be a
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. Could bring him in as a special
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: referee for a big MJF match on pay per view.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: But the one thing that people are talking about that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not too keen on is this idea of him
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: coming in as an authority figure of some kind, like
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the commissioner or the general manager, you know, of AAW.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It's not needed. We don't need it. AW doesn't need it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: It's been well established who the authority is on these shows.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: It's the man behind the curtain, and no on screen
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: authority role is going to change that. It didn't when
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: they had Christopher Daniels as an authority figure, and it's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: not going to if they have Mick Foley in the
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: same role. Plus it we just feel like a retread
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: of something that we already saw him do in WWE
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: when he was much younger. So I would hope that's
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: not what this is, but it sounds like he's going
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to do something with them. They've used legends in various
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: roles throughout the years. In AW, they more often than
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: not they use their legends. I would say Tony is
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: very respectful of the legends that he used, none more
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: so than Sting, and Sting was a different case because
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Sting was still active doing matches, but whether it was
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Staying or Ricky Steamboat has been brought in a bunch
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of times, Arn Anderson, Tully Blancher, Jake Roberts, you know
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Express. There's always room for a
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Mick Foley appearance on the show. I just don't think
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: it needs to be a regular occurrence. The brackets for
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: this year is men's and women's. Owen Hart Foundation tournaments
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: have been announced. We found out about them on Dynamite
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, so let's take a look at them. On
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the men's side, first, we have Samoa Joe one on
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: one with Will Osprey and that match will take place
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: at double or Nothing next Sunday on the same side
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: of the bracket meeting the winner of that match will
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: be the winner of the match between Jack Perry and
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: so the former national champion and the current national champion,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Mark Davis. Now on the other side of the bracket,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: we have Bandido one on one would Swerve Strickland. That
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: will also be taking place at double or Nothing, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the winner of that match will meet the winner of
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the match between Brody King and Claudio Casignoli. And the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: biggest surprise of this tournament. No John Moxley. The first
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: thought that I had. I'm looking at this bracket, I go,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: how is Claudio in there and not John Moxley? They
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: have the wrong death rider in this tournament. John Moxley
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: is a former aw world champion. I mean, forget the
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: stuff that I've talked about with him and Osprey maybe
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: meeting in the finals, and how that would make a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: lot of sense given this story they've been telling of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the death riders training him and trying to turn him
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: into a killer. I have no idea why Claudio was
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: in there and not John Moxley. That was the biggest
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: like what the fuck to me? And then I look
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: at the other side of the bracket and I see,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you know, look, I like Mark Davis. I'm a Mark
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Davis fan. You've heard me talk about him before. I'm
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: very happy that he has found some single success and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: he's a champion now. But why is Mark Davison there
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: over any other member of the Kallus family, like, oh,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, androte Aldelo who has talked about wanting
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to go after the world title because they don't want
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: him losing. That's the simple answer. But of course there
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: are bigger names who belong in here, who are in it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: This is the case every year when we go over
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: these brackets. It's the same thing every year. Why would
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Kenny Omegan not be in this? Why would Kevin Knight
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: not be in this? The TNT champion or Speedball right,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: both of whom have been heavily featured on TV. These
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: are all very valid questions. But we look at what
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: we have here and what are we looking at. It
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: seems pretty clear to me that we're looking at most
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: likely a final at Forbidden Door next month between will
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Osprey and Swerve. Strictlan Will Ospray for sure is going
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: to the finals of this tournament. Otherwise there's no point
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: in telling this story that they're telling with him on.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: The question is who's going to be on the other
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: side of the bracket against him? I can't see it
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: being Bandido, Brody King Claudia Like, none of those matches
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: are are Forbidden Door worthy. However, Swerve and Ospray have
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: history at that Forbidden Door pay per view. It was
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: two years ago that they met for the World Championship
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and Swerve beat Ospray, So this is a chance to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: run it back. I mean it was a great match
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: two years ago, it'll be a great match now. Now
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Swerve is a heel before he wasn't Ospray and Swerve.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: There's your final for Forbidden Door with Ospray going to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium just rights itself. But then we pan over
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to the women's bracket and we have Persephone one on
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: one with Hazuki Willow Nightingale, the TBS champion goes one
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: on one with Alex Windsor, and that is the one
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: women's tournament match that is taking place. At double or nothing.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: We have two for the men, one for the women.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: On the other side of the bracket, Athena, the Forever
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Ring of Honor Women's World Champion, takes on Mina sheer
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Kawa and the winner of that match will meet the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: winner of the match between Sky Blue and Serie. So
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: let's take a step back here, Okay, Athena is back,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: But unlike last year, there's no Jamie Hayter, there's no
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Chris stat Lander, and there's no Mercedes Monette. If John
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Moxley not being in the men's tournament was the big surprise,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: then Mercedes not being in the women's is an even
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: bigger surprise, Hazuki. I understand because Forbidden Door is a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: joint production with multiple promotions featured, including Stardom, so they
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: wanted some Stardom representation in there. Same with Persephone. She's
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: CMLL talent, but at least Persephone has the dual contract.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: She's also an AW talent. But Persephone is out injured,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: as is Sirie. Just last week, Sei put out an
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: announcement that she was taking a month off to seek
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: treatment for her neck. That Tony Kahn was asked about
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: them the other day on the Supercard of Honor media call,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: and because Persephone was actually pulled from that Ring of
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Honor pay per view on Friday. She was supposed to
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: be in the women's title match on that show, a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: big multi person match, and she was pulled due to injury.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Now on TV, they're crediting it to and even Tony
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I think in kfab here was crediting it to the
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Triangle of Madness and they missed at her and they
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: injured her. That's a cover reason. You know, there is
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a legitimate injury here. He said he expects them both
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: to be back in the ring in time for the tournament,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and that their matches probably will not take place until
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: they get well into the month of June, to give
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: them more time to heal up. If not, I mean,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: it's not as if he doesn't have a wealth of
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: other women on his own roster who would benefit from
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a spot in that tournament. It's not like it's gonna
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: be that hard to plug somebody else in there. But
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: he is convinced that they'll be fine, and when the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: time comes, they'll be there. They'll be in the ring
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: for their matches. The one thing I will say about
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the women's bracket definitely more unpredictable than the men's. If
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Athena would have dropped her title on the Ring of
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Honor show on Friday, she'd be I mean, just a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: shoeing too. She'd be my pick to win the entire thing.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's her, which begs the question, who
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the hell is ever going to take that title away
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: from Athena. She is approaching Roman reigns numbers with her
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: title Reigne. She's up around like one two hundred and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: fifty days. What did Roman have? One? Thy three hundred
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and sixteen I think was the number. So Athena is
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: only like a couple of months away two three months away.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an intent on their part
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: to pass Roman reigns or why that would even matter,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: but she's getting very close. She'd beat five other women
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: in an elimination match on Friday, one of whom was
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Billy Starks, who has had chances before to win that championship,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: even when it felt like, Okay, this is the blowoff,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: this is the perfect time to do it, and they
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: didn't pull the trigger. And then I saw the other
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: day that Billy Starks just graduated from college and got
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: her degree. It wouldn't it be something if they have
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: been waiting for her to graduate from school before putting
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the title on her, like the top title. Yeah, you
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: forget how young she is. She's only twenty one. But
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: the pay per view on Friday ended with Athena berating
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: her like I could see it. The question is is
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: anybody gonna care? Is anybody gonna give a shit? Yeah?
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: We criticize Triple H for dragging things out with stories
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: for far too long. Look at this Athena and Billy
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: starkshit Final Battle twenty twenty three. Athena beats Billy Final
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Battle twenty twenty four Athena beats Billy, it's twenty twenty six.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: If they run this back at Final Battle again this
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: year and Billy actually wins the belt. I some people
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: don't care, but like, are there enough people out there
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: that are even gonna give a shit? Sometimes you just
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: got a cut bait. It's like, Okay, this has gone
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: on for far too long. Here is the payoff even
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: going to be worth it in the end. But as
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: far as this tournament goes, I can't see Willow winning.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: She's already won the Owen once before. I mean, so
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: did Mercedes, and if she was in this, she'd have
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: been my pick. But Willo also has the TBS title.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening. I'm going with Persephone
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: as my pick to win the women's tournament. They could
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: use this tournament to really establish her on their roster.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: SI and Hazuki, I mean they're very good also, but
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: they're not AW stars. You know, the woman who wins
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: this and goes on to Wembley needs to be somebody
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: under contract with AW. I think an Athena Persephone final
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: would be great, and there's history there because Athena beat
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: her last year in the main event. Of Final Battle,
• 57:37
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• 59:18
  Speaker 1: in WWE allegedly spreading the narrative internally that aw will
• 59:23
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• 59:31
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• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the third quarter of this year, but they're talking about it.
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• 59:40
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• 59:43
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• 59:44
  Speaker 1: off TBS, they're going to be off HBO Max. And
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: they might be. But as I've said over and over,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: WWE doesn't know that. WWE doesn't know that, Tony Khan
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't know that. Nobody knows that, and it's pointless to
• 59:59
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• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: question like this. He said, I saw a report today
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: saying that somebody in WWE is telling people within WWE
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: talking about aw's next TV deal and talking about what
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: we're doing. And I was surprised by that. And I'll
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: say that what they said could not be further from
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the truth, and they're entitled to their opinions. I've been
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: trying to be respectful to them and trying to conduct
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: myself as a gentleman, and then for them to go
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: on background and spread these things, I'll just turn the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: other cheek and maybe a couple of years ago I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it like that. Then later on on
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: X somebody said media Train, Tony is a problem. He
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: was saying that is a compliment to Tony and then said,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: though I do wish he would take a little swing,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: to which Tony responded, thank you very much. I didn't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: take any specific new media training, though I have both
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: gained experience over time working and wrestling in sports, and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I've rediscovered what it means to turn the other cheek
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: because of reinvigorating my faith in Jesus in recent years.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: That he had mentioned something similar in his interview with
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Coachman and Vince Russo he may not have gotten
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: media training, but you can tell he has made an
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: effort to not engage with them when they try and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: get under his skin. And I'm sure that they do,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: because how can it not right? But he's done a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: much better job of measuring his responses and situations like this,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: because there's nothing to be gained by addressing something like
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: this in any other way. All you're gonna do is
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: give it credence. He's going to put over his relationship
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: with the Ellison family, and he's gonna put over the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: current deal that they have, every opportunity that he gets
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and how great it is, whether he believes they have
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: a good chance of getting renewed or not right the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: minute he gets at a pissing contest over this publicly,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: that then becomes the headline and he gives validity to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: the report. Can't do that. But you go back and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: you watch the way that he acted, for example, at
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the brawl Out scrum four years ago after Punk and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: this is after Punk got up and left with the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: muffins and everything, and Tony was sitting there taking questions
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and he was talking about WWE counter programming them, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: he was pissed and he let it show. He had
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a terrible poker face when it came to that, and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: he said, I've got more money than Jim. This is
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: what they did to Jim Crockett back in the day.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: But the only thing is I've got more money than
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Jim Crockett did, and I'm not gonna sit back and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: take this fucking shit anymore. And you know that the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: suits in Stanford were having a good laugh at his
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: expense at the office the next morning because he was
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: gotten to and he let it show. And to me,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: that was the low point that whole scrum. That was
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the low point for him and for the entire company.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: But compare this response to the kind of response that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: he would, you know, given back then, it's night and day.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Now a response like that would be great for clicks
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and views. Don't get me wrong. As a content creator,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you eat that shit up like ice cream. But as
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: the president of the company, this is a much more
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: mature way to handle stuff like this. So the updated
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: double or nothing card for next Sunday looks like this,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: And this is by no means complete. They're going to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: add more on TV this week. I'm sure they have
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: over fourteen thousand tickets sold for Louis Armstrong Stadium. That
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: is a sellout one week out. When I went to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: go see what's left on the map at Ticketmaster, the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: only thing left are verified resale tickets. That's it. So
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: that's good enough for the second largest domestic gate in
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: company history, behind only last year's All In show in Texas.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: All In this year, by the way, at Wembley has
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: around twenty four thousand tickets out, so it is not
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: coming anywhere close to what they did. Even for the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: last show they did there, they did about fifty thousand fans.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: They'll be lucky to hit thirty thousand this year. And
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: it's the law of diminishing returns because you know, when
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you run the building that big, this is what happens.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: You know. The first one did over seventy thousand, because
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: it was a novelty, right, it was a company other
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: than WWE running Wembley and running this big stadium, and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: it had more to do with that and less to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: do what the actual matches were going to be. And
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the UK was just so starved for a big show
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: like that. So depending on who you believe, the number
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: was somewhere between seventy and eighty thousand, right, huge crowd.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Then they went back the following year and they did
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand, which was a big drop off, but fifty
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: thousand is still an impressive number. But they ain't gonna
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: hit that again. They're not gonna come anywhere close to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: that this year. But here's the double or nothing card.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I may as well give you my early predictions here
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: as I go along. We've got three owen Hart Foundation
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Tournament matches. Samoa Joe won on one with will Osprey.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: That's going to be a win for Osprey. We have
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Willow Nightingale taking on Alex Windsor. I'm going with Willow
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: for the win. Maybe we could have will against Willow.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe we kind of merged, we fused the refuse the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: two tournaments to get That'd be a hell of a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: semi final. I'll tell you that will Osprey against Willow Nightingale,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: and then in the other Owen Heart match, Swerve Strickland
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: is going to beat Bandido. Now we have also Stadium
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Stampede returns, first time in years that we've had a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Stadium Stampede match. It's going to be Chris Jericho, Bobby Lashley, Shelton, Benjamin,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Kenny Omega, Jack Perry and the Young Bucks seven on
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: seven against Ricochet, the Gates of Agony, Mark Davis, androde
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: l Edelo and the Dogs David Finley and Clark Conners.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that they end up working this
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: like anarchy in the arena where they do it live
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: in the building with the music playing in the background.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: That it's not going to be taped in advance like
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: they did during the pandemic with the first one. I mean,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: they're calling it Stadium Stampede because they're in an actual
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: stadium this year, but I think it's basically going to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: be anarchy in the arena. The whole way through. I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: mean the two the two were very similar anyway, This
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: is going to be a giant clusterfuck. And I will
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: say this if it is anything like the last Anarchy
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: match that they did last year, that was some of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the most fun I had all year watching pro wrestling.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: This has the potential to steal the show because I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: thought the one they did last year, if it wasn't
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the best one that they've done, it was the second
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: best one. It was certainly never boring. And I'm going
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: with the babyfaces. I'm going with Team Jericho for the win. Here.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: FTR defend their AW tag team titles against Adam Copeland
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: and Christian Cage. It'll be an I Quit New York
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Street fight where if FTR retains Cope and Cage they
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: can never again team up together as a tag team.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: This should be a tag team championship change. I think
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: this is the night where Cope and Christian get their
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: hands on the gold, so they are my pick to win.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Tekla will defend her AW Women's championship against Chris Statlander, Hitkiushida,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and Jamie Hayter in a four way. I can't imagine
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: taking the belt right now. Off of Tekla. There's some
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: storyline stuff going on with Statlander and Shida, and so
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: we'll see if you know, things blow up between them
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: here in this match. And Jamie Hayter, I just feel
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: like is gonna be reserved for a tag team title
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: win soon, probably at Wembley, you know, her and Alex
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: windsor so Tekla retains. We have Kazuchka Okata who missed
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: this week. He was originally supposed to challenge Darby Allen
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: for the aw World title. He had to go back
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: to Japan on some family business, hopefully nothing too serious.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: He is scheduled to defend his International Championship against Kenoski Takeshta,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: and this is the match I'm probably looking forward to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the most out of everything on this show. We had
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a match between them as part of the Continental Classic.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: This was back at World's End. It was a very
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: good match, but it was not like this big epic
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: that you would yet you just know the two of
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: them could go out there and have and it just
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: felt like, Okay, they're saving it right. They don't want
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: to just blow it up in this tournament. They want
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: to save the best for last. I'm not even sure
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: if this is going to be the last. This could
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: end up being a three match program, but I'm still
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: going with Takeshta to win the title here. I think
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: this is the big finale between them most likely, and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to walk out the new International champion.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: And then in the main event, we have Darby Allen
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: defending the AW World Championship against the former champion, MJF.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: It is title versus hair. If MJF loses this match,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: he will be shaved bald. Now. Darby Allen has been
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: defending the championship NonStop since he won it. He defended
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: it on Wednesday in a great match against Takeshta, then
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: on Collision last night he successfully defended the title against
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Sammy Gavara. And the story they're really leaning into is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that physically these title defenses are really taking a toll
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: on him. It was just funny to me though, because
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: we've seen him take so much abuse and so much
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: punishment in these matches. He fell from a balcony against
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Pack last week through fucking tables, and I mean, just
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: think of all the shit this guy got. Even on Wednesday,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the match with Takesha the Blue Thunderbomb, he took off
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the apron to the floor. There was like an avalanche
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: German suplex that he took where Takeshta held on. He
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: never broke stride. I mean, the bumps at this guy
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: takes is insane. And then he's got Sammy. I think
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: he had him in the scorpion deathlock last night and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: he just collapses, I guess because it's finally catching up
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to him. So he was showing the physical toll in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: the match last night that these defenses are finally, you know,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: kind of taking on him and they're wearing him down.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: But he has another title defense coming up against Speedball
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Mike Bailey on Dynamite is Wednesday. That will be his
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: seventh title defense in the span of one month. Now,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I do love though, how Speedball set on Wednesday. I've
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: got the winner of Darby and Takeshta tonight. And then
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Darby just turns around and he defends against Sammy. First,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Sammy Gavara, who had wrestled one match since he wrestled
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: for US in House of Glory, and that was back
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: in March, and he hadn't even appeared on AW television
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: since January, and there he was last night Wrestling for
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: the World Championship. You know, at this point, I'm expecting
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Darby to walk by the popcorn vendor on the concourse
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: and offer him a shot at the aw World title.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: But if Speedball gets his match, here's how I see
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: this playing out. He's gonna get his match on Wednesday,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: He's gonna lose. I think there's a very good chance
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: they add Speedball against Kevin Knight for the TNT title
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: to the double or Nothing card. Neither man even has
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: a match on the show right now, which is wild
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: when you consider how much TV time they get. I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: think either it's a frustrated Speedball who asked for a shot,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: or Kevin Knight will just offer him one. But I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: think it's a very good chance. Still hasn't been announced yet,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: but I still think we probably will get Speedball and
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Kevin Knight for the TNT title at double or Nothing.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: And that's the card as it stands right now. Again,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: that card is going to evolve more as the week
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: goes on. They have their pre show. I'm sure we'll
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: get three or four more matches added there, but that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: is the bulk of the double or Nothing card as
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: it stands. And I will be live on YouTube after
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: that show. I don't go live after all the AW
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: pay per views, but yeah, i have House of Glory
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: on Friday, so I'm not going to be here for SmackDown,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: probably not going to be here for Saturday Nights made event.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: I really don't want to miss three streams in a row,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm also really looking forward to the show, So
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: hopefully you will join me when it's over on YouTube.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: That will be very early in the morning on Memorial Day.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I've got some AW contract news Jack Perry. I mentioned him.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: He's going to be part of Stadium Stampede and he's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: also in the Owenhart Foundation Tournament, so he's involved in
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: multiple things right now at the moment on AW television, however,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: David Shoemaker of The Ringer Podcast, you see him on
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of these WWE documentaries. I don't know how
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: some of these guys constantly get on there, but there
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: they are. He's always one of them. Anyway, He's the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: only one I've seen reporting this. He just threw it
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: out there casually the other day that Jack Perry is
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: about to become a free agent soon, or so he's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: been told. I don't know how reliable that is. But
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: he wasn't ambiguous about it at all. He wasn't really
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: hedging his words. He said it with some authority in
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: his voice. Now, I had heard about Anna Jay possibly
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: leaving soon. She confirmed that her deal was coming due
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: very soon a while back, but then a few weeks
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: ago she returned to TV. So if she was leaving,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: it would be very unlike Tony Kahn to then take
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: somebody who he thought might leave or is leaving soon
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: and put them on television. Usually he'll just bench you.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: But she came back to TV. She was back again
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: on Collision last night, so nobody knows what her status
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: is right now. She may not be going anywhere. This
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: is the first I'm hearing something similar about Jungle Boy though,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: and the boy would that be interesting? Him and CM
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Punk back working for the same company. Punk might ban
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: him from Rawn SmackDown like he banned him from Collision.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I can't see him being a good fit on that
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: main roster right now. NX team maybe, but not the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: main roster. Meanwhile, Fightful is reporting that the belief is
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Big Bills contract with AAW is set to be expiring
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: very soon, set to be at the end of this
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: month or beginning of next month. Now, he has not
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: shown up on AW television since February. He hasn't done
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: anything since early April. That was in Ring of Honor.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: He's been tagging with Brian Keith. You know, he's a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: big guy who can work. He's got a much better
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: chance with WWE than Jungle Boy would. He's not a
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: young guy. He's almost forty, so he's no blue chip
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. But I mean that's by no
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: means a barrier for entry for him there. They got
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: plenty of guys around his age, but not many of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: them have his size, and I think that that would
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: work to his advantage because it's very clear that Tony
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Kahan has nothing for him right now, and Jericho bailing
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: on the Learning Tree stuff without doing a proper blowoff
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: match with Big Bill really hurt him. That was selfish,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: is what that was. And Fightful is also reporting that
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Paul White's AW deal the Big Show was set to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: expire earlier this year, but sources believe he agreed to
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: a new deal to remain with the company. They have
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: not heard for how long, but he is believed to
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: be firmly under contract they say, so that Hall of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Fame induction is going to have to wait a little
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: bit longer. You know, he's only had I went back
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: and I counted them out. He's only had half a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: dozen matches since he joined the company in twenty twenty one,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: not all of which were televised, some of them were dark.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: So that's half a dozen matches over a five year period.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And a big part of the issue is just physically.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: You know, he's washed, his body broke down on him.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: He's had multiple surgeries I think every year since he
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: joined the company, and I know he wants to wrestle again.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: He even just recently in an interview, talked about wanting
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: to get in there with some of these guys that
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: he hasn't had a chance to work with before. I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: may imagine him and Darby what he could do with
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: somebody like Darby. Darby Allen would actually be the perfect
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: opponent for someone like Big Show because he would just
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: bounce right off of him and just bump his ass
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: off for him, and he'll take all kinds of punishment
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: and make his offense look super good. So yeah, I
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: could actually see that being a thing down the road
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: at some point.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: But he's also talked about wanting to play this Captain
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Insano character that they had acquired the rights to some
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: time ago from you know, because he was Captain Insano
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: and the water Boy a million fucking years ago with
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, and I guess Tony bought the rights to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Captain Insano and he's wanted to do the character on TV.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: So at some point we're probably gonna get Captain Insano.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, maybe as a one off I could
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: see him getting in the ring and doing something, but
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: not on a regular basis already there, I mean, what
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: can he do again outside of something with a guy
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: like Darby who will just bump all over the place
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: for him, What can he possibly do physically? He just
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: can't do it anymore, you know. But they have him
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: on some of the pay per view pre show panels
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: and he does ambassador work for them, and he's very
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: good at it, and I would imagine that's exactly what
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: he'll be doing going forward and probably what he what
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: would be best for him to be doing in aw
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Now some other news and notes ex wrestler Eddie Mansfield,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: And when I say ex wrestler, the man has not
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: wrestled since something like nineteen eighty three or nineteen eighty four.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: He has been a pariah in the wrestling industry ever
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: since he went on twenty twenty and exposed the business.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: And this was back in the eighties, all right, that's
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: just something he didn't do back then. Mansfield has a
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: very high opinion of his play in history. He's always
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: been railing against promoters mistreatment of wrestlers. He says a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: lot of the right things right. It's not that the
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: things that he was saying were necessarily wrong, it's that
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: he wasn't the right messenger for it. I think with him,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: it was more about getting back at the promoters that
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: had wronged him, less so about him trying to kind
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: of save the business. He's the one who famously said
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, but Lincoln forgot to free
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: the pro wrestlers. Truly, one of the stupidest things that
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. But anyway, Mansfield was on the Monte
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: and Faroh show yesterday and he revealed that his good
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: friend Marty Janetti had his right foot amputated, and there
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: was a photo they spliced in, so there is a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: photo of him and his right foot is missing. He's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: sitting in a wheelchair. If you have seen Jeannetti, or
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: if you saw Dark Side of the Ring, the episode
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: on him, first of all, that was just a wild
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: fucking episode. But his his ankle was all mangled. He's
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: had ankle problems going back many, many years. I have
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: no idea how he was even getting around on it.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was in pain just looking at the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: man's ankle. But Mansfield was also critical of WWE for
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: not taking care of Jeannetti, saying where in the hell
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: was WWE to help Marty Jeanetti. Hell, he made them
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars and you can't help him when he's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: in the biggest need of his life, fighting for his life.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I don't understand that his problem has always been his ankles,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: and his ankles were screwed up in a WWE wrestling ring,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: making them a lot of money. Him and Sean Michaels,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: the WWE and Shawn Michael should have stepped in and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: made sure he went to the best when it all
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: started and give him the best medical attention and the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: best doctor's money could buy. And that wasn't done. I
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: guarantee they would do it for Shawn Michaels, though now
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: he doesn't say if Jeannetti actually reached out to WWE
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: at any point asking for help. He doesn't say that,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, they didn't help Mo have
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: men on a mission when he needed a kidney transplant,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: so I doubt they would have paid for Jeanetti surgery
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: and good luck proving that the ankles were fucked up
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: in a WWE ring, because it's not like Marty only
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: worked for WWE. Look, I feel bad for Jeanetti going
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: through all the pain with his ankles. I wouldn't wish
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: that on anybody. But Marty's had a lot of problems
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: over the years, not just with his ankles, so much
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: so that the last time WWE brought him back, and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: they brought him back a bunch of times over the years,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: they gave him a lot of opportunities to clean up
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: his act and to come in and to wrestle, or
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: maybe there could have been other roles for him, like
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: imagine Marty Jeanette if he had his head screwed on
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: tight as like a trainer or something, right, I think
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: there was a lot that he could have offered. But
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's very telling that the last time this
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: company brought him back in two thousand and six, I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: believe it was. It had to be because it was
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: and Vince was doing that dumb kiss my ass club
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: stuff and he tried to have Jeanetti kiss his ass
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: and Jeanette started laughing on TV. I don't remember if
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: that was the only reason they didn't bring him back,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: but something happened, and it resulted in them issuing a
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: statement on their website, which is still up by the way,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: if you search around for it, a statement that I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: have never heard them give for anybody else. They said,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: a World Wrestling Entertainment has broken all professional ties with
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Marty Janetti. Like when have they ever said that before?
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get maybe when they fired Hogan maybe
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: it was something to that effect, but very rare that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: they would issue a statement worded quite like that. But
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: that's the story of Marty's life, right, It's just been
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: one fuck up after another, and now unfortunately all the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: abuse that his body has taken and his ankles have
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: taken have led to this. And you know, buff Bagwell
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: had some really nasty problems with his leg infections and
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: such for many, many years had a lot of problems
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: with his leg until he got it amputated. Last year,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: he got an above the knee amputation, and it has
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: given him a new lease on life. I'm sure he's
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: also pain wise right, not in as dire a condition
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: as he was before. I can only hope that it
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: brings Marty the same relief. You know, I don't begrudged
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Marty a lifetime of pain and misery. Hopefully this will
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: help him. But we also can't pretend that Marty Jeannetti
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: has been a boy scout and that he hasn't had
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: opportunities over the years to you know, make money with
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: ww WEE and have some sort of role working for them,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: and he screwed it up each and every single time.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: And that's at least part of why he ended up
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: in the state that he's in, where you've got Eddie
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Mansfield now going on this show saying, oh, well, how
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: come ww WE doesn't do more to help Jeanette. We
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: don't know what WWE has or hasn't done for Jeannetti
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: over the years. We know they've given him opportunities and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: he's screwed it all up. But realistically, even if he
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: would have gone to the company had asked for financial help,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't have given it to him, because it's
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: just not something they've done with other people when they were,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: you know, when they had some sort of medical need.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine it would have been any different with Jeannetti,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: even if he did ask for help. And finally the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter had the story and everyone else has picked
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: up on it since as well. That Barry Blaustein, the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: former Saturday Night Live writer and writer and director of
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: the famous Beyond the Matt documentary, died on Tuesday at
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: the age of seventy two. He had been diagnosed years
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: ago with Parkinson's disease. I want to say it was
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: around twenty seventeen maybe, but then he got hit last
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: month with a stage four pancreatic cancer diagnosis, which was
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: basically a death sentence for him. He was a big
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: part of Eddie Murphy's career. He wrote so many of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: those legendary SNL sketches for him, like Buck We Eating
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Gumby and then later on movies like Coming to America
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: and The Nutty Professor. But he was also a huge
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: wrestling fan who was embarrassed to tell people that he
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: was a wrestling fan until his wife threw him a
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: surprise birthday party for his fortieth birthday and she and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know how she pulled this off, but she
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: managed to get Dusty Rhodes to attend his birthday party.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to know how that came about. So
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: that would have been around nineteen ninety four is when
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: he would have been forty. And it was after that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: when he decided to pursue making a documentary about his
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: love of pro wrestling, which is what Beyond the Mat was.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: It was like his love letter to wrestling, truly one
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: of the best pro wrestling documentaries ever made. First it
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: was Wrestling with Shadows, and then Beyond the Mat came
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: out basically back to back. They pulled the curtain back
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: on wrestling in a way that had never been done before.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: But the documentary focus mainly on three figures, Mick Foley,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Harry Funk, and Jake the Snake Roberts, who always hated
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Blaustein because he hated the way that he was portrayed
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: in the film. But you got to remember, Jake was
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: all fucked up back then. I don't think there was
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: a great way to do an honest movie and feature
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Jake the Snake in any other way, you know, I mean,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: not when you know you're being filmed and you're smoking crack,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: like come on, now, come on. But he's always claimed
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: that he was lied to and he never got paid
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: a dime for the movie. Blaustein refuted all of that,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: so who knows. I mean, if he was promised certain
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: things and was lied to, then he would have a
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: reason to be upset. But Jake wasn't exactly in the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: best frame of mind back then. He's doing much better
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: these days, thankfully. Dennis Stamp was the other star of
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the movie. When he wasn't booked for Terry Funk's retirement show,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: he was very upset about this, and Funk had to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: go to his house to try to convince him to
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: work the show and because it hurt his feelings, and
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: that's where the famous scene comes from of Dennis Stamp
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: in his backyard bouncing up and down on the trampoline.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not booked, Terry, I'm not booked. He ended up
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: being booked for the show, and then you had the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: scenes from the I Quit match at the Royal Rumbuland
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: ninety nine where Foley's family was watching him get his
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: brains bashed in with a chair by the rock and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Foley felt awful about that watching it back. I mean,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: he traumatized his kids. But Blaustein called that documentary his
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: favorite thing that he had ever done in his entire career,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: and WCW had refused to give him backstage access. WWE
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: and ECW allowed him to film, and Vince McMahon came
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: to regret that decision because when Blaustein showed the film
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: to Vince and Linda, they hated it and they even
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: threatened to sue him to stop it from getting released.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: And it ended up being a blessing for Barry because
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: he was able to market the film as the movie
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: that Vince McMahon doesn't want you to see because they
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: refused to promote it during their shows. But that was
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: the best publicity that he could have asked for. And
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Foley remained friends with him until the day that he died.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: He even visited him not too long ago. Foley wrote
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: a beautiful tribute on his Facebook page that you should
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: all go read, but this is from the end of it.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: He said, of all our times together, I will treasure
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: our last meeting the most. Barry had been battling Parkinson's
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: disease for a decade, but I did not know that
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: he had been diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer until
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: his wife, Deborah reached out to me. Barry was simply
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: too weak to attend a screening of Beyond the Mat
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: and follow up Q and A, and Deborah wanted to
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: know if there was any way that I can make
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: it out to Los Angeles the next day for the screening.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Screening itself was very meaningful to me, watching Beyond the
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Mat on the big screen for the first time in
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: twenty seven years, being part of a community of fans
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: who held the film in such high regard. But it
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: was our visit to Barry's house following that that was extraordinary,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: even magical. Surrounded by family and friends, Barry was positively
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: beaming as we took a beautiful scroll down memory lane,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: taking turn, sharing stories and laughing and hugging and being
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: positively grateful for this special time together. When I reached
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: out to Barry's daughter Casey for her father's address, telling
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: her I wanted to write Barry a letter. She encouraged
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: me to write it quickly, as he was down to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: his final days. I wrote the letter that evening and
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I mailed it out via Next Day air the following morning.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: The letter arrived at the Bloustein home at eight am,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: just six hours after Barry had passed away. But I
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: hope it serves as a reminder that I loved Barry,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: thought the world of him, and considered him one of
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: my best friends. Very well said, all right, let's break
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: into this monster mail bag. See how many of these
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: we can mow down here For you, you could always email
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: me the Solemn Monster at gmail dot com. Please include
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: your name of where you are from when you write
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: in Dominic from Connecticut. Listen to your raw review for
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: May eleventh, Great episode. I wanted to address something regarding
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: the Oba Femi Open Challenge. I believe you said that
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: this may go on for another six weeks, since Night
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: of Champions is at the end of June. However, if
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: they are indeed having a King of the Ring tournament,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: and assuming the finals will take place at Night of Champions,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: then the tournament should begin at the beginning of June.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: It could even begin the Monday night after clash in Italy. Therefore,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: assuming Oba is in the tournament, the Open Challenge should
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: conclude once the tournament begins, giving us only two more
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: weeks of Open challenges. This gives me a sigh of relief,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: as I think two more weeks is much more tolerable
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: than six weeks. Oh, I agree, bonus, I would have
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Damian Priest answer next Monday, Omas answer the following Monday,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: and the final Open Challenge in Italy, where Seamus will
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: return to answer the Open Challenge. Well, I think that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: would be fantastic. And Seamus is one of the names
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: that I have been hoping might pop up. I just
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I don't have a sense of what his timeline is
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: for a return, I don't have a sense of what
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: his injury status is. If he is medically cleared and
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: they're just kind of waiting to bring him back, I
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: think that would be fantastic, even if he loses. I mean,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: what what a hell of a match that would be.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: And for Shamus, let's say if he was to be
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: the last person in this Open Challenge, all he has
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: to do is go in there and just give this
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: guy the biggest fight of his entire main roster runs
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: so far, even more than the Brock match, Like, let
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: them give them five or six minutes, maybe even a
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: little bit more of me. He doesn't have to go
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: overly long and just let them beat the hell out
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: of each other, you know. And then he beats Seamus
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and Shamus kind of gives him the stamp of approval like, Okay,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: this guy is the real deal. Welcome fella. And then
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: it's perfect because you keep wondering, like, how does this
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Open Challenge end? I certainly hope it doesn't end with
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: him losing, So what does the end of the Obafemi
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: Open Challenge even look like? Well, if they were gonna
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: put him in the King of the Ring tournament, then
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: that's that's how it ends, right. He has a competitive
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: match with Seamus at the very end, he wins, and
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: then the King of the Ring tournament begins and he
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: just kind of slides over into the tournament. So I
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: like that, and you're absolutely right. Two more weeks of
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: this is a hell of a lot more tolerable than six,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: because I was watching the show on Monday and thinking, boy,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: they've already run out of ideas. Two weeks in, they've
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: already run out of ideas on what to do with
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: this guy in this open challenge? Andrew from Las Vegas,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: would you be shocked if part of the ability to
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: vote for the John Cena Classic you will have to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: be a Club WWE member. They purposely did not say
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: at backlash because it would have been met with backlash.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: No pun intended this way. Throw the idea out there,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: let people talk it up, and then smash them with
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: a money grab. Oh, that sounds like a very TKO
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: thing to do. I would not at all be chef.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: You're asking me what I'd be shocked? No, No, I
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: would not. In fact I would. What would shock me
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: is if there was no Club wa WE tie in
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: whatsoever with any of this? Daniel from Los Angeles. Based
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: on the recent episodes of Monday Night Raw, both Rusev
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: and Ethan Page are going after the Intercontinental title. They
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: seem to have formed some sort of alliance, although Ethan
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: appears unwilling and is intimidated by Rusev. What are your
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: thoughts on dragging out this storyline with Ethan helping Rusev
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: win the Intercontinental title? They seem to work well together.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: We can have Ethan mostly helping Rusev when needed and
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: acting as his hype man. Russev, in turn, could then
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: have a short dominant title run with everything looking up
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: for him this alliance that implodes at summer slim Ethan
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Page ultimately betrays Rusev and wins the Intercontinental title for
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: himself on rusev Day of all days. He could win
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: the title either indirectly or in a fatal four way
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: or in a one on one match against Rusev. Yeah,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that could work. I just think if you're
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: doing Penta and Ethan Page on Saturday Night's Maine event
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: next weekend, then Ethan should win and you just kind
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: of do the story. Maybe, but in reverse, where Ethan
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: has the title and Russev like he could try to
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: maintain the alliance and keep promising him at some point
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: to give him a time. I feel like there's a
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: way to do it. But in reverse. I wouldn't hate
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: the idea that you just pitched. I think that could
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: work too. I mean, just I don't realistically see them
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: putting the title on Russev. I don't think they prioritize
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: him enough to have him be the one to beat Penta.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Think of anybody's gonna beat Penta, It's gonna be ethan page.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Doug writes in I found your comments on Persephone quite perceptive.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: A substantial side of me hopes Tony Khan gives her push,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: gives her the push here. She's already entangled with the
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: triangle of madness, and it makes a lot of sense.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Although I was disappointed by that collision match at the
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: time because I was hoping Persefhanie might get the shot
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: at Tekla at double or nothing. But I've heard sire
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: mentioned in PWI and other places as well. I like
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: persep though, and would like to say that I'm on
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: the bandwagon. Last weekend I got around to viewing her
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: win over Mercedes Monette and came across a recent Sean
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Ross Sap interview with her, and then learned about the
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: documentary with Persephone and La Catalina. After Persephone's humorous comments
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: to Sap about their feud, the documentary absolutely screams superstar.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: I don't recall Persephone getting much aw Mike time, and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: she's appeared almost stoic up to now.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: And I don't think much Ring. I don't watch much
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Ring of Honor other than a few YouTube videos. Yeah,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean I've heard her in a few promos and
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: she's not bad. It's just a matter of getting her
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: more exposure and getting her more time on TV to
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: cut promos and to wrestle and to just show what
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: she can do. She's very, very good, and I think
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: that her winning the Owenhart Tournament makes sense to me.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: She has the dual contract. She's an AW talent every
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: bit as much now as she is a CMLL talent,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: and so it's OK. I think to send her to
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Wembley to challenge for the championship. You could do per
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: Sephone and Techla. Now, it's not going to be as
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: you know, attractive of a match as Mercedes Monet against
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Tecla that would be a bigger match to do, But
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: if you're trying to cement a new star in your
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: women's division, this is the way to do it. Molly
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: from Toronto. There have been many men and women that
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: have gone from WWE to AW but no matter what,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: we will always see them as WWE stars. Which ones
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: have been there long enough though that you no longer
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: see them as WWE but as an AW star. Love
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: the stuff you do on TNT with JD The Best
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Tag Team podcast ever. Hell yeah, best two men show
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: in the entire space. Thank you, brother. Honestly, John Moxley
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: is one. Some people may think I'm crazy by saying that,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: but John Moxley I put him on that list. I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: don't feel that way about Chris Jericho and they and
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: they've been there for about the same length of time.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: But Moxley just feels like an AW guy to me.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I rarely think about Dean Ambrose. Swerved Strickland for sure,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: and he was barely on the main roster before he
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: got cut. Timeless Tony Storm same thing. She was barely
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: on TV before she split. She's AW through and through.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: I might throw FTR in there. I think I look
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: at them more as AW talents than I did as
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: WWE guys. Mays from Virginia Beach, Virginia May's the great.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I read a transcript of an interview MVP did where
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: he took another shot at Triple H, saying, you can
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: go down the list and you can think of talents
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: that Undertaker work with, that he elevated and got them over.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: How many people do you remember the nose, I mean,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: Triple H getting over in his career. How many people
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: can you associate with him, So he's asking, who do
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: you think comes to mind? As far as Helen's that
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Triple H put over and elevated, I think it's fair
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: to say Seth Rollins. Yes, he was already over with
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: the Shield, but under the authority he became a true
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: main eventor in the company. Well, Rollins was headed there regardless,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: but sure you can throw him on there. The first one,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: and the biggest name that comes to mind, though, is Batista.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Batista is number one. Batista's number one. Batista was obviously
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: one of the people who was handpicked by Triple H
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: to be part of Evolution in the first place. They
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: built a very good story with him heading into WrestleMania
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. He put him over at WrestleMania,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: and then he put him over two more pay per views,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: three in a row, with their Hell and a Sell
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: match being the best of the bunch, and that's it.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: That's all I can really give him credit for. I'm sorry.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he put over, He put over lots of people,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: but that's very different than like truly elevating them to
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: a level above and beyond what they had been doing.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, he put over Daniel Bryan, who was already
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: super over, right, I guess that would be the closest one,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: because the authority story is what led to him winning
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: the world title of WrestleMania, even though again that was
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: never supposed to happen. But Brian was already super over.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: You know. He put over Roman Reigns, who was already
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: on the ascent, and they had a terrible WrestleMania match
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: that did nothing to truly elevate the guy. In fact,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: as I recall, I'm trying to remember because I was
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: in the fucking building. The fans spent most of the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: match booing Roman, and I don't even agree with MVP
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: giving him. Randy Orton. Mick Foley did more to truly
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: elevate Randy Orton in the eyes of the fans than
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Triple H ever did in any of their matches. I
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: would even say Undertaker to an extent, that was sort
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: of where the healing began after what happened to Orton
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: to O four after he lost the World heavyweight title.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: You know that Triple H hand picked him for evolution,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean he elevated him and got him over.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: He did with Batista, he did not do that the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: same way with Randy Orton. Randy Orton won the world
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: title and then Triple Ah beat him for it, like
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: a month later. They had a WrestleMania match years later
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: that Triple H won and did nothing to elevate Randy Orton.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving him credit for that one. I think
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: MVP is actually being very generous with that one. Losing
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: a match to someone in and of itself does not
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: constitute getting them over. Like he tapped out John. He
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: tapped out to John CeNAT WrestleMania twenty two that was
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: a big one, And same thing with Ben White tapped
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: out to Ben Wan that triple threat wrestle Mania twenty
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: So if you want to make an argument for either
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: one of them, you know fine. But my point is
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: it's not a long list. Now that being said, MVP
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: talks a lot of shit about this man, but he
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: never comes right out and says what it is that
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: he did to him to make him so upset. All
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: he has said in the past is that it has
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with race. It has to do with
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: his personal experiences with the man. It would be nice
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: to hear him explain what those are or were, Q
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: the Destroyer from Chicago. People always talk about the loudest
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: pops that they've ever heard, But can you think of
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: the loudest heat from the crowds that you've heard over
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the years? Yes, yes I can. Elias and Kevin Owens,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Elias making that Jeb about the SuperSonics in Seattle, Holy shit,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the heat for that was incredible, incredible. Even they were
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: looking at each other in the ring, they could hardly
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: contain themselves. They were so happy. You could tell on
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: the inside they're so happy at the heat that they
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: were getting. John Cena walking into his money in the
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Bank match with Cmpunk in your Backyard in Chicago. Roman
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: reigns on that front. I guess you could also throw
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: in Sina walking into the Hammerstein against RVD at One
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Night Stand. It's like walking into the Lions. Then Roman
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: reigns the night after he beat the Undertaker WrestleMania, just
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: eight minutes straight of booing like we would not let
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: this man speak Hollywood Rock in Toronto in two thousand
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: and three. Shawn Michael's on Raw that famous promo in
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Montreal in two thousand and five, heading into his Summer
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Slim match with Hulk Hogan, especially the Bret Hart fake out.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: And you know you said the loudest heat, so maybe
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: this isn't at the very top, but in terms of
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: general heat, you have to have the Hogan heel turn
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: on there from Bash of the Beach ninety six, with
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: all the garbage that those fans flooded the ring with.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, poor gene Oakerland, he got hit in the
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: face with a battery, bleeding from the bridge of his nose.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: That's he. That's he. Michael from Detroit, greeting salom Monster.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your opinion on the original DX
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: return that happened on the raw after vengeance in two thousand,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: which led to Triple H turning on Shawn Michaels in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of their epic rivalry from two thousand and
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: two to two thousand and four. But in an alternate universe,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: how would you have booked the reformation of DX and
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: O two had they actually stayed together before the eventual split?
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: And then he goes into some potential scenarios here. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you could have kept them together for
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: six months or or maybe a little bit longer. You
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: could have had them get a run back then as
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: Tag Team Champions and then ultimately built to the exact
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: same thing you ended up doing. It just sort of
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: pushes the I guess maybe pushes the timeline back a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I mean that maybe is the
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  Speaker 1: only change I would have made. I mean, the a
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: DX return in O two when Shawn first came back
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  Speaker 1: to the company would have made sense. I was not
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: a fan of when they brought it back in six
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: and it was very it's just very goofy. I think
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: the only time I try was entertained, and I truly
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: laughed during that entire thing is when Vince was in
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: the ring on the mic and they turned up like
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: the pitch of his voice and he sounded like he
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: had just inhaled a bunch of helium. I laughed at that.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: I think that might be the only time I left.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know they did little People's courts that
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: was kind of amusing, I guess years later, but I
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: just wasn't a big fan of six or O nine.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: You know, when they did the DX stuff, and it
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: was just it was just a marketing crab, you know,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: so they could sell a bunch of fucking glow sticks
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, and now at this point, they're so
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: much older and they're doing all the same juvenile shit
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: they were doing in their younger days. It was just
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: it was sad. I just I couldn't get into it.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: But in O too, you could have dragged it out
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: for a little while, and you still could have ended
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: up in the same exact place, you know, where you
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: would have had Sean get a short world title run,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: and you know, they could have had some some big
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: matches and everything else plays out exactly the same way,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: you know, but instead of blowing it off in one night,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: you do it maybe for a few month, maybe not
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: even six months, but you do it for a few months.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Brett from Buffalo. I've been listening to some classic sound
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: offs and I just got to the raw after Hell
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: and a Cell in twenty thirteen, where Daniel Brian confronted
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Sean Michaels and put him in the y slock. My
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: question is this, do you think they should have had
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Brian versus Michael's match and the aftermath of that segment?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: After all, Sewn essentially unretired for the end of an
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: error match or wrestle Mini at twenty eight, So would
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: it have been that crazy to put Michael's back in
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: the ring in an unsanctioned match or something. I think
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: it would have done great business and it would have
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: been an awesome match. Oh, it would have been a
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: great match. He just didn't want to do it. His
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: mindset back then, was I am retired. The only reason
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: he came out of retirement, for example, in the Saudi match,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: was because he thought it would be a fun thing
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: to do with his friends, and probably the payday, but
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: that was the only reason he came out of retirement.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: And it turned into a fucking disaster. But there's no
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: way that a Shawn Michael's Daniel Brian singles match in
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen would have been a disaster. It would have
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: been great, but he was retired. That's it. So I
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: mean to answer your question, yes, it would have made
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I thought maybe there was a chance,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: that's what it was leading to, and you had the
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: history there where you know, he helped train Brian. It
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: would have been great, but the man was retired. He
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: was only like two three years out of retirement at
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: that point. He didn't want to come back, is he
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: from thatcher Arizona Having finished the Hulk Hogan documentary. It
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: made me realize one thing. My brother was a huge
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: Brett Hart fan, and I see why. He's usually the
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: best part of these documentaries. He says what's on his mind.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: He doesn't hold back for anybody. I love how he
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: casually called Hulk Hogan a knife wielding, backstabbing piece of
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: shit before he takes a shot. That was the best.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: That was the best part of the entire thing. He's
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: just sitting at the bar and he lips the shot
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: up and he goes, fuck, what do you say to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: fuck you? And he just I'm like, can this man
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: get any cooler? Come on, man, come on. With that
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: being said, do you think Netflix would ever have a
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: documentary on Brett Hart's career without having WWE and their
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: hands in it. I would love for Brett to actually
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: talk about the final thirty days he had guaranteed on
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: his contract for full creative control. That seems to be
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: something that Bruce and everyone else backstage conveniently forgets to
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: talk about, and that Vince McMahon wasn't worried about Brett
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: leaving with the title what say, dude, You're gonna get me?
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Really going here? If you get me into the Montreal
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: shit again. Like there is so much misinformation and just
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: bullshit from these people whenever I hear them talking about
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: this shit in a documentary about how we had to
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: get the belt off of him because that was his
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: last night. Was it in the Hogan? It was just recently.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Hogan documentary. Oh, no, you know
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: what it was. I think it was the Shawn one
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: on Peacock, Yeah, because that got me pissed off, Like
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Bruce or who it was,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: but it's like, oh, we had to get the belt
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: off Brett because it was his last night and he
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: was leaving. I'm like, fuck you, fuck you and your misinformation.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: But they have pedaled this narrative for so long that
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: people now buy it as gospel that Oh my god,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that Brett Heart wouldn't drop the belt
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: it was his last night. No, it wasn't. It ended
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: up being his last night, but it wasn't going into
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: it was not supposed to be his last night. And yeah,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: the creative control aspect gets glossed over it. Dude, don't
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: even get me started on that. As far as Netflix
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: doing a Brett documentary without WWE's cooperation, It's never gonna happen.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: It's never gonna happen because if nothing else, they wouldn't
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: have access to all of his footage. You can't do
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: a documentary without having access to that stuff. And I
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: don't think WWE would ever get permission for it if
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: they for them not to be involved. Oh yeah, sure,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be painted in a great glowing light
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: by Brett. Just look at the comments he makes any
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: given week about Triple H. You think they would trust
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: the Brett Hard documentary without having their hands in it,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: and they have the business relationship with Netflix. The chances
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: of that happening are zero. Unless WWE is involved, it
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: ain't happening. H John from Tallahassee, Florida. You've mentioned that
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan is the only wrestler to have two different
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: runs as the top guy as a babyface and a
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: heel for two different companies. But how about Brunos, Sam Well, No,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: hold on a second here, that's not exactly what I said.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: What I said was there is nobody else in the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: history of wrestling who was a top guy who led
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: the boom period as a babyface in one company and
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: then went to another company as a heel and led
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: them in another business boom. So it wasn't just that, Oh,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: he was a babyface in one place and a heel.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's been done. But as far as leading
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: to like a big boom period, nobody else has ever
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: done that. I have said that. But he brings up
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: Bruno San Martino. He goes what about Bruno? Bruno had
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: two different runs as the top babyface for the same company,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: So buy or sell Hogan or Bruno's run as the
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: top guy. Now, those are two completely different things that
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: you've listed there. My point was, again, as I said,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: no one had ever done what Hogan did, as I
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: just laid out, including Bruno. Bruno never did that. I mean,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: you said it yourself. Bruno was on top, but he
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: was the top babyface in the same company. That's very,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: very different. Bruno was on top for years and years
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: as a regional babyface champion, long before they went national,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: and that was very impressive. And he sold out Madison
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Square Garden a bunch of times, as did Hogan, although
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Bruno probably had more sellouts than Hogan did, but what
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Hogan did was far more impressive to me, So I'm
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: gonna buy on Hogan, sell on Bruno. I mean it's
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: not even to me, it's not even close. Blake from
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Missouri buy sell rent on The best impersonation Shawn Michael's
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: impersonating Hulk Hogan, Kurt Angle impersonating Shawn Michaels, or Jay
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: Lethal impersonating Rick Flair. All very good, all very good.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I think the Kurt Angle one probably entertained me the most.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: But the best impersonation is Jay Lethal impersonating Rick Flair.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: I got to buy on Jay Lethal. I will rent
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: on Kurt Angle, and I will sell on Sewn Michael.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: I mean that was good too, when he was on
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: the Larry King Live and mocking how old Hogan was.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: But that's got to be at the bottom. Lewis from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Who is the worst wrestler that you were convinced was good?
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Could be a Tom McGee situation or purely nostalgia based,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: just someone that you were convinced was awesome and then
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: you realize they were hot garbage. Goldberg, It's closest thing
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: I could think of, and Goldberg was great for what
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to be in like short doses. But
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: I think you know, Goldberg got so white hot at
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: one point, and then you know, when he was kind
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: of tasked with doing more than just quick squash matches,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: I think it became very clear that, you know, he
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily all that he was cracked up to be.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: But in terms of like the most explosive wrestlers I've
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: ever seen, Goldberg was great. Goldberg's probably number one on
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: that list. Uh Sam from Atlanta, George, I was curious
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: to know which wrestlers you found the most entertaining over
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: the years. Could you name your top pick for each
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: decade since you became a fan? I can. I could
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: tell you that in the eighties it would be Macho
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: Man Randy Savage. In the nineties most entertaining. In the nineties,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: it's got to be Stone Cold or the Rock. I'll
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: go Austin. Just too many classic segments like the monster
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: truck and the beer truck, and the Zamboni and the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: promos and all the high jinks with Vince is too
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: many for him not to be the most entertaining. Two thousands,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: Kurt Angle, twenty tens. See now it gets harder I
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: would probably go see m Punk or Kevin Owens. Punker
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: Owens would be my pick. I tend to lean more
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: towards Punk, but it would be one of those two.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: And the current decade is easy. The current decade MJF
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: and Alex from Milwaukee will end with this a non
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: wrestling question. With Mortal Kombat too out in theaters, I
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: figured to ask something fun in regards to the series.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: One of the things that hooked me on the recent
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: installments were the guest characters that they added to the game,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: starting with Kratos from God of War and Freddy Krueger
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: in Mortal Kombat nine. In the latest game, they added
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: John Cena as Peacemaker, which leads me to ask, what
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: wrestlers do you think would be a great fit in
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat. Jeez, in Mortal Kombat. I mean Brock Lesner
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: I think would fit perfectly in Mortal Kombat. What would
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: his fatality be? Though? That's the question, what would what
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: would Brock's fatality be? Also, even if you haven't played
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: any of them, by rent Cell on which Mortal Kombat
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: game has the best character lineup? Well, I tell you
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: right now, I haven't played any of them that I
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: could tell you Mortal Kombat ten, would Jason, Predator, Leatherface,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: and Alien, Mortal Kombat eleven with Terminator, the Joker, Spawn,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: RoboCop and Rambo or Mortal Combat one. How do we
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: go from ten to eleven to one? By the way,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: I always found that weird or Mortal Kombat one with Omnimen, Peacemaker, Homelander,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: ghost Face, the Conan and the Barbarian and t one
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: that well, I mean that one. Put that one on
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: the bottom. That one sucks compared to the other two.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: It's either Mortal Kombat ten or Mortal Kombat eleven. Now
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: you got my boy, Jason is in there in Mortal
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: Kombat ten, But I gotta go Mortal Kombat eleven. I mean,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: look at that lineup. Look at that fucking lineup. Terminator, RoboCop,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: the Joker, Rambo. I wasn't really a spawn guy, so
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about Spawn, but just Terminators, RoboCop, Joker,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: and Rambo. I mean that that easily wins as far
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Anyway, Great stuff here, A lot of
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: variety in the questions. Keep emailing me the Solemn Monster
• 1:53:58
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• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: may make it on the show or even on the
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Uncrowned Wrestling Show. There'll be a brand new episode of
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: that coming your way on Tuesday, and a brand new
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Tuesday Night Titans back in our normal slot over on
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: JDS channel. That'll be on Tuesday night. We have the
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Raw post show tomorrow night on YouTube, Dynamite post Show,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: the final Dynamite before Double or Nothing. That'll be on Wednesday,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: and I will not be here on Friday night. We
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: have House of Glory. Hopefully you will be there too,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: so there will be no SmackDown live stream on Friday.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: As of right now, it's looking like I won't be
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: here for the live stream for Saturday night's main event,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: so we'll just delay that until the SoundOff. We'll talk
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: about it on the SoundOff because that'll be next Sunday.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: That'll be episode nine sixty four, and then live on
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: YouTube next Sunday night for Double or Nothing reviews. So
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: you get two podcasts and one day next week. And
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: just a quick note here, I'm looking ahead at the
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: calendar and I noticed that this clash in Italy pl
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: is on Sunday, May thirty first, at two o'clock Eastern
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: in the afternoon, right in the middle of the fucking day,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: so we can't do a SoundOff that day. The plan
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: is to do it a day early, even if I
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: hold it and get it up the next morning. But yeah,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do the SoundOff a little bit
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: early that weekend. So that's the current plan. Not that
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: there won't be one, but we're gonna have to do
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: it a little early. So that's what's coming up here
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: for the remainder of May. We've had a great month
• 1:55:27
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• 1:55:31
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• 1:55:36
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• 1:55:39
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• 1:55:41
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• 1:55:44
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• 1:56:00
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• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: is there any single show at the moment week to
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• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: tell me the word that you would use to describe
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: it is fantastic. The standards have really really dropped over
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: the years. There was nothing fantastic about this show. There
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: has not been anything fantastic about most of these shows
• 1:56:22
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• 1:56:25
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• 1:56:27
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• 1:56:30
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