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- 0:00Speaker 1: Latest interview of Elon musk Well.
- 0:02Speaker 2: I think Tesla is one.
- 0:03Speaker 3: Of the most exciting companies in the world. You know,
- 0:05Speaker 3: it's perhaps the most exciting, but you know this, Tla
- 0:10Speaker 3: and SpaceX, let me say, all the most two US
- 0:12Speaker 3: exciting companies.
- 0:14Speaker 2: So we're you know, we're obviously expanding production.
- 0:21Speaker 3: We're making more cars. We're gonna you know, we're going
- 0:25Speaker 3: to roll out Tesla Pull self.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Driving, which is really an AI driven car.
- 0:30Speaker 3: So it's Tesla AI software that that drives the car
- 0:34Speaker 3: just by looking like.
- 0:36Speaker 2: A human does. So Tesla has the.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Most advanced real world AI and hopefully it will be
- 0:44Speaker 3: approved soon in Europe. We're told by the authorities that
- 0:50Speaker 3: March twentieth it will be approved in the Netherlands was
- 0:53Speaker 3: what I was told. Hopefully that date remains the same.
- 0:58Speaker 3: But I think people in your are going to be
- 1:00Speaker 3: pretty blown away by how good the Tesla car AI
- 1:04Speaker 3: is in being able to drive. So uh and I
- 1:09Speaker 3: think this year really it will be the case that you.
- 1:16Speaker 2: From from a.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Technical standpoint, you'll be able to fall asleep in the
- 1:20Speaker 3: Tesla and wake up at your destination. So that's that's
- 1:26Speaker 3: very exciting. We've got the optimist program, which is going
- 1:31Speaker 3: to be the first humanoid robot. And I think you know,
- 1:37Speaker 3: sometimes people say, well what would that use, Well, like, well,
- 1:41Speaker 3: who wouldn't want their own personal C three p O
- 1:44Speaker 3: r T D two But even better, you know, and
- 1:47Speaker 3: you can think of like all the reasons, like you know,
- 1:50Speaker 3: do you want.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Someone do you need a robot to.
- 1:53Speaker 3: You know, take care of your kids or walk the dog,
- 1:57Speaker 3: or you know, take care of elderly pairs pants or
- 2:00Speaker 3: something like that. Then Optimists can do those things. So
- 2:06Speaker 3: so that's very exciting. And yeah, you know, we're going
- 2:11Speaker 3: to be starting production of the Tesla Cybercab here at
- 2:15Speaker 3: Gay Texas. Uh, we have started production, i should say,
- 2:19Speaker 3: but we'll go to scale production in April or start
- 2:24Speaker 3: falling production in April and have significant production towards the
- 2:27Speaker 3: end of the year.
- 2:29Speaker 2: And you know, if things go well, we would probably.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Manufacture Cybercab in Europe as well, and also manufacture Optimists
- 2:43Speaker 3: in Europe. So we've got the Tesla Semi coming out,
- 2:49Speaker 3: so the Tesla heavy truck, and that'll be going to
- 2:55Speaker 3: Europe hopefully next year.
- 2:58Speaker 2: There's so many things happening. It's it's a long list.
- 3:00Speaker 4: There's a long list to make it an exciting company.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Yeah, battery cell production, we're going to We're going to
- 3:08Speaker 3: start making battery cells at Gigabollain do we have the
- 3:12Speaker 3: Tesla litium refinery that started up in Texas and the
- 3:16Speaker 3: Tesla Nicol cathode refinery that's started up in Herrett in Austin.
- 3:24Speaker 3: It's really this year is a tremendous number of things.
- 3:28Speaker 3: We've got five factories starting wine production this year, five
- 3:32Speaker 3: for a major production line. We look forward to extending
- 3:36Speaker 3: that to Europe as well.
- 3:37Speaker 5: And I guess looking a little bit back, Tesla hasn't
- 3:40Speaker 5: done anything less but really transforming a whole industry. I
- 3:43Speaker 5: think without us taking that brave step, or Tesla taking
- 3:47Speaker 5: a brave step to electrify mobility, the industry wouldn't.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Be where it is today.
- 3:52Speaker 5: What would you want people to say about Tesla, Let's
- 3:55Speaker 5: just say in ten or twenty years from now.
- 3:58Speaker 3: In twenty years, I'd say he's got factories on the moon. Actually,
- 4:06Speaker 3: basically I see I see a very prosperous future for Tesla.
- 4:11Speaker 3: It's difficult to predict anything twenty years, but if you say,
- 4:14Speaker 3: like the make five years to ten years, I could
- 4:17Speaker 3: say Tesla has an extremely bright future, and I would say, like,
- 4:23Speaker 3: hold on to your Tesla start.
- 4:25Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be worth a lot. I think,
- 4:26Speaker 2: you know, that's that's my that's my bet. Very cool.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Coming back to the president.
- 4:32Speaker 5: If you look, I mean, you're always very well informed
- 4:35Speaker 5: if you look to the European industry, especially to the
- 4:38Speaker 5: automotive sector, or even the German industry as automotive.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Sector, and what do you what do you think about it?
- 4:45Speaker 4: What do you believe the main reasons for their current state.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Well, I think there's not been enough innovation in automation.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Sorry what automotive innovation has been relatively low. So the
- 5:03Speaker 3: cars that are being produced are very much like the
- 5:05Speaker 3: cars that were produced five years ago.
- 5:10Speaker 2: They're not big differences. You know. I've said for a
- 5:13Speaker 2: long time, really that the.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Automotive industry, I said this for twenty plus years needs
- 5:18Speaker 3: to go towards electrification.
- 5:23Speaker 2: And this would be.
- 5:23Speaker 3: True even without environmental concerns. So it's just an electric
- 5:28Speaker 3: vehicle is a fundamentally better architecture than a gasoline combustion vehicle.
- 5:34Speaker 3: It is much simpler, it is more efficient, it's quieter,
- 5:39Speaker 3: there's no pollution within cities. So really all ground transport
- 5:45Speaker 3: should be electric, and I think all ships and eventually
- 5:48Speaker 3: all planes should be electric. But the automotive industry has
- 5:53Speaker 3: strongly resisted electrification. They've dragged their feet and had to
- 6:00Speaker 3: be pushed pushed there by government, and then whenever they've
- 6:03Speaker 3: had any opportunity to reduce the production of electric vehicles,
- 6:07Speaker 3: they've done so. So this is just, uh, this is
- 6:12Speaker 3: not a good strategic It's like doesn't it doesn't make sense.
- 6:17Speaker 3: And also making vehicles autonomous is critical, like I think
- 6:24Speaker 3: it was like ten years ago. I said that, you know,
- 6:27Speaker 3: in the future, any vehicle that is not electric and autonomous,
- 6:33Speaker 3: like if you're riding a vehicle you have to drive
- 6:35Speaker 3: yourself that is gasoline powered. It's going to be like
- 6:41Speaker 3: riding a horse and using a flipbone, which is to
- 6:44Speaker 3: say that there's still some people somewhere that ride horses,
- 6:47Speaker 3: but not zero horses.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It's just rare.
- 6:52Speaker 3: And some people somewhere are still using flipbones, but it's
- 6:56Speaker 3: not many.
- 6:57Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be a niche thing.
- 7:00Speaker 3: So the future does not contain combustion vehicles, and there
- 7:06Speaker 3: will be very few vehicles that are not autonomous. The
- 7:11Speaker 3: future is autonomous electric vehicles, sure, and so if the
- 7:15Speaker 3: automount of industry does not move in that direction, they
- 7:18Speaker 3: will be left out.
- 7:20Speaker 5: So it doesn't really sound like we should or could
- 7:23Speaker 5: even be learning much from the legacy automakers. And I
- 7:28Speaker 5: guess it really sounds like we should be focusing on
- 7:30Speaker 5: us and what we believe the future looks like.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I mean there's you can always look, let's
- 7:36Speaker 3: something from some competitor, but the strategically they're just headed
- 7:43Speaker 3: in the direction of the dinosaurs.
- 7:46Speaker 2: So they're not headed for a good place.
- 7:47Speaker 3: You know, dinosaurs are not around anymore, so they really
- 7:53Speaker 3: we certainly are, We're going in a very different path.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Like you said, electric autonomous is the obvious to me,
- 7:58Speaker 3: It's been blindingly obvious for you know, twenty years plus. So,
- 8:05Speaker 3: but you know, you can't sometimes with what I've found
- 8:08Speaker 3: with competitors is in the automotive industry, it's.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Not that they're going to steal our ideas.
- 8:18Speaker 3: You know, you can't cram a good idea down their throat, Okay,
- 8:23Speaker 3: like if you say, like you must hate this good idea,
- 8:25Speaker 3: it's like, we're not going to.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Steal our ideas.
- 8:27Speaker 3: They won't even we can't even force feed them our
- 8:29Speaker 3: good ideas. That's that's been my experience. So we need
- 8:35Speaker 3: to do what's logical, what's sensible, and and and you know,
- 8:41Speaker 3: in Tesla, we're essentially creating the future. And it's a
- 8:44Speaker 3: good future.
- 8:45Speaker 4: We are building the future. They just build cars.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good future.
- 8:49Speaker 3: It's future with electric vehicles that don't emit poison gas literally,
- 8:54Speaker 3: that quiet efficient and and and and like I said,
- 9:02Speaker 3: autonomous the car instead of having to be stuck in
- 9:05Speaker 3: traffic driving through you know, by zeroads. And you know
- 9:10Speaker 3: sometimes also people sometimes they you know, they may fall asleep,
- 9:15Speaker 3: or they may have a medical emergency. And uh, and
- 9:19Speaker 3: then if you're if you're driving yourself and you're on
- 9:22Speaker 3: got upon going super fast and you have like a
- 9:26Speaker 3: you know.
- 9:27Speaker 2: A seizure or heart attack or something.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Then you could die. And but if you're the car's autonomous,
- 9:35Speaker 3: it can take you to a hospital. In fact, this
- 9:37Speaker 3: has actually happened many times with Tesla cars.
- 9:39Speaker 4: Right, really cool.
- 9:42Speaker 5: So if we if we look at gigabillin specifically, but
- 9:46Speaker 5: six years ago nearly we broke around four years ago
- 9:49Speaker 5: we started production.
- 9:51Speaker 4: I have a ton of memories. I know, you have
- 9:52Speaker 4: memories about it as well, and what are.
- 9:55Speaker 5: Like the greatest memories. What do you tell people when
- 9:58Speaker 5: they ask you about Gigabyllin and the people love.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Well.
- 10:04Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I'd like to say thank
- 10:05Speaker 3: you very much to everyone that's helped build Gigaballain, you know,
- 10:10Speaker 3: thank you Andre, and thank thank you to the whole team,
- 10:14Speaker 3: because we've gotten an amazing factory built in a very
- 10:17Speaker 3: short period of time and gotten to high volume production
- 10:22Speaker 3: with good quality and good cost control. So I'm very
- 10:26Speaker 3: proud of the of Gigaballin and all the people in it.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Thank you. It's just it's cool. I like the art too,
- 10:39Speaker 2: you know, the art and that people have some fun,
- 10:42Speaker 2: you know, so you know, like coming to work should
- 10:47Speaker 2: be you should look forward to it, you know.
- 10:52Speaker 3: So you're coming to work with people that you enjoy
- 10:55Speaker 3: working with. You're doing useful things, You're making things.
- 11:00Speaker 2: You know.
- 11:02Speaker 3: So I have a lot of respectful makers, like you
- 11:05Speaker 3: actually make something, you built something useful, built something useful
- 11:09Speaker 3: that you know that that people enjoy that. Like, I'm
- 11:17Speaker 3: a big fan of makers, and you know, there's there's
- 11:20Speaker 3: a lot of people who I don't know that they're
- 11:24Speaker 3: like they don't make things.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I don't know, they just hang around.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't make things, or they don't provide useful services,
- 11:33Speaker 3: whereas I like, I think I have huge, respectful people
- 11:36Speaker 3: who make things and provide useful services.
- 11:40Speaker 2: And there's an honest day's work, you know, So thank you.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know if you do have.
- 11:48Speaker 5: But if you have a vision for biga ballin, what
- 11:51Speaker 5: would it be and what do you think would have
- 11:53Speaker 5: to happen for it to become true?
- 11:59Speaker 2: Yeah? I think ye.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Ideally we would significantly expand production at gigablin, so we
- 12:10Speaker 3: would would also do high volume production of battery cells,
- 12:16Speaker 3: probably also the the catho, the anode lithium, so there's
- 12:23Speaker 3: become vertically integrated and you know, produce things like the
- 12:30Speaker 3: cybercab or Optimus and other products that test the will develop.
- 12:38Speaker 3: So I think the exciting future vision for the future
- 12:43Speaker 3: of Gigabilin is massively expanding it to do many more projects.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Very cool.
- 12:51Speaker 5: Do you have any advice for the team at Gigibilin
- 12:53Speaker 5: to basically, you know, work towards vision.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Well, things certainly get harder if there are outside organizations
- 13:01Speaker 3: that are pushing Tesla in the wrong direction of the
- 13:03Speaker 3: outside organizations that are pushing Tesla in the wrong direction.
- 13:06Speaker 2: And okay, well then.
- 13:07Speaker 3: It's difficult to say that. Then we would expand if
- 13:12Speaker 3: we have to, you know, outside organization that's making things
- 13:17Speaker 3: very difficult. I mean, I'm just the sis the truth. Yeah,
- 13:19Speaker 3: it is the true. I mean, we're not going to
- 13:21Speaker 3: shut down the factory, but we're not going to expand
- 13:23Speaker 3: it either realistically.
- 13:24Speaker 2: So is I s it?
- 13:25Speaker 5: I have a bunch of I have a bunch of questions,
- 13:27Speaker 5: so just too much around and then yeah, feel free
- 13:30Speaker 5: to comment on them.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Sure, Eileen, which is your favorite factory? Maybe Jiga four?
- 13:41Speaker 2: Well, you know, a favorite factory is like saying what's
- 13:44Speaker 2: your favorite child? You know, it's not a fair question
- 13:47Speaker 2: on them. It's a question I'm you know. The thing
- 13:51Speaker 2: is that I love factories. Honestly. It's you know, I
- 13:56Speaker 2: think a lot of.
- 13:57Speaker 3: People these days, you know, don't I love factories or
- 14:01Speaker 3: they even even into a factory, you know. But whereas
- 14:05Speaker 3: I've walked the line in you know, every factory, and.
- 14:10Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of factories. I love factories.
- 14:15Speaker 4: This is a great place to be.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like you make things that have good utility.
- 14:21Speaker 2: People like love the product. Making a product, building a
- 14:23Speaker 2: product people love is that's great? Makes you.
- 14:29Speaker 3: So people? Len is an awesome factory. Yeah. So the
- 14:40Speaker 3: vibe in there is cool. Like you walk around, you know,
- 14:43Speaker 3: it's it's it's very clean. It's like it's quite beautiful
- 14:46Speaker 3: inside and outside.
- 14:48Speaker 2: And.
- 14:50Speaker 3: It's like people seem seem quite happy. And we're making
- 14:54Speaker 3: cars and soon battery cells.
- 15:02Speaker 4: You probably many more things, Yeah, many things to be
- 15:05Speaker 4: proud of.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a great factory. It is.
- 15:10Speaker 3: All right. I think it's one of the coolest factories
- 15:11Speaker 3: in the world really honestly, Hey, Elan, which is the
- 15:15Speaker 3: next product we will be building here in gigle Berlin. Well,
- 15:19Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of exciting possibilities for what
- 15:21Speaker 3: the next product is that will be built in Gigaberlin.
- 15:24Speaker 2: There.
- 15:26Speaker 3: We've started now spilling up production of the battery cell,
- 15:31Speaker 3: and we're going to be expanding production of the Model Y,
- 15:38Speaker 3: especially once as we get approval for supervised full self driving.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Then from a product from the next major product standpoint,
- 15:48Speaker 3: I think most likely is the Tesla cybercap but then
- 15:52Speaker 3: there's also possibilities of Tesla optimists and the Tesla semi
- 15:58Speaker 3: heavy truck. So like Tesla has a lot of products
- 16:03Speaker 3: coming out, so there's a lot of potential. I think
- 16:08Speaker 3: if things go are looking good, I think we would
- 16:10Speaker 3: expand gigable and to whatever the most that.
- 16:15Speaker 4: We could, you know, gigentic manufacturing.
- 16:18Speaker 2: So we have a lot of space.
- 16:21Speaker 3: Well, assuming that the you know, authorities are supportive and
- 16:24Speaker 3: the people are supportive, then we would expand to probably
- 16:29Speaker 3: make it the biggest factory complex in Europe.
- 16:31Speaker 4: Very cool, that's a cool future.
- 16:35Speaker 5: All right, then we have ourkil He's got an interesting question.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Hilan, So when do you realistically think we can have
- 16:42Speaker 3: Optimus in the Giga.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Factory so we don't have to worry about ergonovic sense stuff. Well,
- 16:48Speaker 2: where do we look careful about that?
- 16:49Speaker 3: One?
- 16:49Speaker 2: I don't want people to worry about their job, you know, no, So.
- 16:58Speaker 3: I mean the onest answer for AI and robotics is
- 17:02Speaker 3: long term working will be optional, like long term you know,
- 17:07Speaker 3: which is ten years from now or less. Work will
- 17:11Speaker 3: be optional, like if you want to work, you can
- 17:14Speaker 3: like kind of like if you grow vegetables, you can
- 17:17Speaker 3: grow vegetables in your garden or you can get them
- 17:20Speaker 3: from the store. It's optional to grow vegetables in your garden.
- 17:26Speaker 2: But some people select to do it.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Yeah, it's extra work to grow your own vegetables, but
- 17:32Speaker 3: it's people enjoy the process. That's going to be how
- 17:37Speaker 3: work is in the future. It'll be like you can
- 17:39Speaker 3: work if you want it.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Very cool.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Yeah, how can we make sure that the adoption of
- 17:49Speaker 3: new technologies like Optimus rich countries in the third World?
- 17:56Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting question generally.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Well, I think for oftenness, we we first have to
- 18:02Speaker 3: succeed in making a useful robot.
- 18:06Speaker 2: So the this is a hard thing to solve. Nobody
- 18:09Speaker 2: is solved making a truly useful humanoid robot.
- 18:12Speaker 3: And then you have to make useful and you have
- 18:14Speaker 3: to scale production, and it's an entirely new supply.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Chain, you know.
- 18:19Speaker 3: The for optimists, we've had to design the whole robot
- 18:23Speaker 3: from physics first principles, so that we you know, we're
- 18:26Speaker 3: designing the every motor, every gearbox or no gearbox, every
- 18:30Speaker 3: gear really and the that the hands are extremely difficult
- 18:39Speaker 3: to design. To have a properly dexterous UH robot hand
- 18:43Speaker 3: is very very difficult, one of the hardest things to engineer.
- 18:47Speaker 3: So it's it's we actually first need to have at
- 18:51Speaker 3: least one that is useful, and then we can scale production.
- 18:56Speaker 3: And it's at first the tasks will be pretty simple,
- 18:59Speaker 3: that often is, and they will gradually get more sophisticated.
- 19:03Speaker 3: I think eventually optimists could do medical work like it
- 19:07Speaker 3: could do be a doctor, like do surgery, and there's
- 19:13Speaker 3: long term potential for everyone in the world to have
- 19:15Speaker 3: access to incredible medical care, like better medical care than
- 19:20Speaker 3: anyone receives today from humans. So I think long term
- 19:26Speaker 3: luck optimists as a surgeon would be incredibly good, super
- 19:31Speaker 3: super competent, and everyone in the world would get better
- 19:36Speaker 3: medical care than anyone currently in the world gets. Yeah, hey, Leon,
- 19:40Speaker 3: what advice would you give young people for life? What
- 19:43Speaker 3: advice would I give young people for life? Well, I
- 19:47Speaker 3: would say one thing is to be to err on
- 19:51Speaker 3: the side of optimism, to be optimistic about the future.
- 19:56Speaker 2: I think it's.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Better to be It's better to err on the side
- 19:59Speaker 3: of being optimistic and wrong than pessimistic and right.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Your quality of life will be much better.
- 20:06Speaker 3: So so I would urge people to be excited about
- 20:11Speaker 3: the future. I'm excited about the future, like I'm confident
- 20:14Speaker 3: that the future will not be boring. They put it
- 20:16Speaker 3: that way, It's going to be very interesting and and
- 20:21Speaker 3: I think it's like most likely to be great, you know,
- 20:25Speaker 3: in terms of like general advice, I mean, I guess
- 20:27Speaker 3: I advise people to like learn as much as possible,
- 20:33Speaker 3: read a lot of books, try a lot of things,
- 20:40Speaker 3: and I guess, you know, I mean, I guess, enjoy life.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Just enjoy life.
- 20:47Speaker 3: But like working is also part of enjoying life, you know,
- 20:50Speaker 3: totally so.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Kind of job that you can actually enjoy.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if if people derive satisfaction from building things,
- 20:58Speaker 3: then like Tesla's an awesome place to be because we
- 21:00Speaker 3: built things, we make useful products, and that's I mean,
- 21:04Speaker 3: that's a great thing.
- 21:05Speaker 2: What is the most inspiring moment in your life?
- 21:12Speaker 3: You know, I guess when my kids were born, that
- 21:15Speaker 3: would be the most inspiring moment, you know, in terms
- 21:21Speaker 3: of work stuff, I guess it's when we had the
- 21:25Speaker 3: first production roadster at Tesla. That was really you know,
- 21:29Speaker 3: it was like hard to believe that we actually made
- 21:30Speaker 3: a car that passed all of the regulatory requirements and
- 21:34Speaker 3: you could actually go on the road with it legally,
- 21:38Speaker 3: because when we started out, we didn't even know how
- 21:40Speaker 3: to make a car and you know, on the rocket side.
- 21:46Speaker 3: The first time getting to orbit was was a huge relief.
- 21:53Speaker 3: We're using you know, getting the rocket to come back
- 21:56Speaker 3: and land. It was very cool. The self driving stuff,
- 22:05Speaker 3: I think is pretty amazing. Amazing the first time somebody
- 22:09Speaker 3: experiences self driving where they're just sitting there and the
- 22:12Speaker 3: car takes them all the way from their home.
- 22:14Speaker 2: To their work and parks. It's a case of mind blowing.
- 22:19Speaker 2: It is.
- 22:20Speaker 5: I'm using it when I'm in the US older time.
- 22:22Speaker 5: It is a lot better than people can actually imagine.
- 22:25Speaker 2: I think it's like magic. It is well cool and
- 22:29Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time, really having you here.
- 22:33Speaker 5: And yeah, hopefully we see you soon in Berlin again
- 22:37Speaker 5: and show you around we have done since we visited.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Us last time.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Yeah, and once again to you know, the people are
- 22:43Speaker 3: pick a ballin Danka shown for We're Hot at.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Abte Tunc show.
- 22:48Speaker 4: Thank you, Elan, Thanks for your time.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Cool, very fun, Thanks for listening. To see you in
- 23:01Speaker 1: the next episode.